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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks?

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Speaker 3: DJ Bucky Rhett Following a week two slate of games,

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Speaker 3: I am still in Charlotte, North Carolina. Looks like you

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Speaker 3: two fine gentlemen are at home. Fun weekend of football. Boys, Buck,

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Speaker 3: you got a grin on your face?

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Speaker 2: What are you? What are you grinning about over there?

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Speaker 2: Are you enjoying your time in North Carolina? Because you

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Speaker 2: stayed you stayed behind. I just wondered, like, if you're

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Speaker 2: just hanging out, you're gonna make it.

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Speaker 4: You make a trippyy with the Mountaineers. There's anything, and

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Speaker 4: oh this is the best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got South Alabama coming off of an eighty

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Speaker 3: seven point performance coming up.

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Speaker 2: The couple of bets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got our work cutout for us on that

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Speaker 3: One's a little Appstate South al Thursday night. Or Money's

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Speaker 3: Money's gonna come up there as well to take in

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Speaker 3: take in the ball game. By that's you're flying out,

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna we're gonna make a whole whole big

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Speaker 3: deal of it.

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Speaker 2: Money.

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Speaker 3: Then one on the air dur in the Charger game

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Speaker 3: and said, DJ is being honored at the app State game,

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Speaker 3: which is not happening. We are literally just going to

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Speaker 3: a football game. Be very disappointing.

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Speaker 2: We're going We're going in the Ring of Honor. There's

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Speaker 2: We're going in the Ring of Honor.

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Speaker 3: I just needed tickets. They got me tickets, that's all.

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Speaker 3: So I've got a busy week out here at Carolina,

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Speaker 3: which is going to get me to our first takeaway

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Speaker 3: from the week, because we'll get to the games. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna go through the games. But the biggest takeaway right

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Speaker 3: now is just what happened. H Bryce Young is no

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Speaker 3: longer the starter. So from number one overall pick to

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Speaker 3: a year later, new coaching staff, new regime, and now

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Speaker 3: it is Andy Dalton under center. I'll get to everything

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Speaker 3: that I saw yesterday and then in my preparation for

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Speaker 3: this game what I saw. But I want to get

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Speaker 3: your guys thoughts on it unfiltered here before I give

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Speaker 3: you what I what I saw. Buck, you can you

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Speaker 3: can lead us off and Red follow them up.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Like major surprise in terms of UH new coach,

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Speaker 4: new tenure, new coach brought in to really resurrect Bryce Young.

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Speaker 2: Two gays in we're pulling the plug. Just really surprised

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Speaker 2: at all of it.

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Speaker 4: Last year, we didn't want to put blame on Bryce

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Speaker 4: Young because we felt like the supporting cast wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 4: This year, we have a new coach, first time head coach,

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Speaker 4: trying to bring in a new system. Yes, he has

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Speaker 4: some veterans around him, but I don't know if two

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Speaker 4: games is enough of a sample size to really know

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Speaker 4: what a young.

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Speaker 2: Player can be. And the final point would be, Man.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we're doing such a disservice to the

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Speaker 4: young quarterbacks around the league.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think we train them properly. I don't

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Speaker 4: I think the expectations are outside based on I guess

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Speaker 4: draft grades in those things. To me, look, I understand

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Speaker 4: he hadn't played well, but two games into a new season.

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Speaker 4: To me, it just seems like it's not enough time

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Speaker 5: And I think you make some really good points there

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Speaker 5: about the development piece, certainly, Buck, but I think you

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Speaker 5: like this is a team that has had mounting pressure

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Speaker 5: having coaching changes mid season. We've got you know, overhauls

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Speaker 5: on staffs mid season. And it comes down to this

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Speaker 5: for me with Dave Canalis, you know, coming in as

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Speaker 5: We saw the reclamation project or the rejuvenation perhaps is

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Speaker 6: So then you make the change of quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a lot of things working here, and

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Speaker 5: certainly getting embarrassed two weeks in a row to open

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Speaker 3: Dij Yeah, I'll start there because I said this to

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Speaker 3: and you are as inept as this team has looked

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Speaker 3: whereas a head coach with an offensive background, you got

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Speaker 3: You're seeing a bubble screen right here, that this is

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Speaker 2: It was so bad as I said, I don't think I.

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Speaker 3: Was anticipating a change would be coming because it and

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Speaker 3: I'll get to the personnel here momentarily, but it was

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Speaker 3: I think where you're coming at it from, it's like,

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Speaker 3: This is number one overall pick. This is so early

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Speaker 3: and the other thing. And I'll get your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 2: No, you know what I saw. I saw Muggsy Bogue jersey.

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Speaker 2: That was what I saw.

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Speaker 3: There was more Buggsy Bogue jerseys in the stands in

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Speaker 3: offensive line is not good. It's just it's there's a

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Speaker 3: long list of things that got us to this point.

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Speaker 3: But I do think that it is in some ways

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Speaker 3: not surprising that this this move is taking place this early.

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Speaker 3: That's how bad it looked yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, it sounds like an organizational failure from top to bottom.

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Speaker 4: And let's be honest, it's been a bit of a

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Speaker 4: the moves, the secession of moves that were made. Right, So,

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Speaker 4: you think about you fire Ron Rivere, you bring in

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Speaker 4: I mean, Matt Rule, it doesn't necessarily work. You remove

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Speaker 4: a revolving door of quarterbacks. You get the number one

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Speaker 4: I'll say this honestly, DJ, it probably didn't help that

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Speaker 4: the ineptitude that you're seeing in Carolina. All of that

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Speaker 4: where do you go from here?

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Speaker 2: You know? Because when you put a plug to put.

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Speaker 4: Andy Dalton in man, that is saying something in a

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Speaker 2: How you feel about the number one overall pick and

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Speaker 6: And I wonder, and oh, look, here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: Dan Morgan was on the Panthers in that Panther's front

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Speaker 5: But I do wonder if that had been if this

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Speaker 5: Dave Canalis's show, and they had all you know, gone

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Speaker 5: it was clear DJ, they had to do something. You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not it's not a Bryce Young singular issue,

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Speaker 3: but he's not. You can say, I can say that

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Speaker 3: I can also say, at this point in time, I

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Speaker 3: don't at least with you know, with any dogts. You say,

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Speaker 3: the guy that you've you've identified. We have no playmakers

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Speaker 3: He targets shed yesterday zero zero. And it's not like

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Speaker 3: I looked, I watched the game. I prepped for that game.

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Speaker 3: There was not Andre Johnson and Randy Moss on the

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Speaker 3: That didn't make any sense to me. So I again,

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Speaker 3: there are six players away from maybe being ten players

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Speaker 6: And the only thing I.

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Speaker 3: Would caution, the only thing I would caution with the

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Speaker 3: CJ has been fantastic. But the only thing I would

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Speaker 3: caution is look at those rosters. How many players for

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Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers would start for the Houston Texans. And

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Speaker 3: when you come to that conclusion, I think everybody will

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Speaker 2: But it's bad.

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Speaker 3: It is bad right now in Carolina. Let's get to

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Speaker 3: the next game here. Let's get to the one we're

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Speaker 4: And I think what Kayleb Williams discovered is how much

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Speaker 2: But you just saw the.

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Speaker 5: Look in DJ on that front with like there's just

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Speaker 6: There's nowhere to maneuver. It's like he can't step up

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Speaker 5: There's no escape plan. There's no like easy solute. There

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and also a game of adjustments, and I give

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Speaker 3: When you start this tape and you watch it, Caleb

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Speaker 2: Did, they couldn't pick it up. So now it just

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Speaker 3: But there were some instance he hung on too long

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Speaker 3: So they've got to be better with that. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: You can't do that.

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Speaker 3: That's something that needs to be communicated to him and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now, DJ, I think that's one of the things

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Speaker 3: I would take tremendous encouragement from that. The defense is stellar,

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Speaker 3: There's no shame in that for the Chicago Bears. Let's

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Speaker 5: because then the Saints score off that interception for their

438
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Speaker 5: fifth straight touchdown, and then the Cowboys do march down.

439
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,360
Speaker 5: They get a field goal for the end of the half.

440
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,440
Speaker 5: But it's thirty five to thirteen right at that point,

441
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 5: and you're like, holy smokes, we're about to make this,

442
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 5: you know, look like we're about to make this a

443
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,440
Speaker 5: one score game again. All of a sudden, things start snowballing. Look,

444
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Speaker 5: and I think for the Cowboys, they'll go back offensively

445
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,680
Speaker 5: and they'll look at their first two drives at thirteen

446
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,719
Speaker 5: and fourteen, play drives on their first two and they

447
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,959
Speaker 5: only come away with six points on those drives. They

448
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 5: get down to the thirty four and down to the

449
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Speaker 5: twenty obviously can't have that. You know, they had zero

450
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,640
Speaker 5: third down conversions in the red zone. They ran nine

451
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Speaker 5: plays in the red zone, got zero touchdowns and through

452
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Speaker 5: an interception. So just not great overall for the Cowboys

453
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Speaker 5: here defensively, you know, they succumbed dj to what Alvin

454
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Speaker 5: Kamara started to like. I mean it's like we got

455
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 5: Christmas Day, you know, four years ago Alvin Kamara against

456
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Speaker 5: by the way, on Mike Zimmer coach defense, if you might.

457
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Speaker 2: Recall m okay.

458
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 4: So that's a good pool because that explains the nightmares

459
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 4: at the bottom of the screen. What I would say this,

460
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 4: having studied Clinton Kobi K's offense last week for the Notebook,

461
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 4: I knew that he was really in his bag when

462
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 4: it came to free snap motions, shifts, play passes, misdirection

463
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 4: and deception. And I'm gonna say this, like Derek carl

464
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 4: looks very comfortable running that type of offense. But it's

465
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Speaker 4: not just Derek Carr. I think it's Alvin Kamar being

466
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 4: the chess piece. I go back to years ago at

467
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 4: the Combine where we watched after those running backs work out.

468
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 4: It was Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamar, and I felt

469
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 4: like they put on one of the best exhibitions of

470
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 4: route running that I've ever seen from wide receivers, and

471
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 4: it was them going tip for tech when it came

472
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Speaker 4: to running routes and for all of the love that

473
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Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey would get being that chess piece that you

474
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 4: can move around the board like the Queen. Alvin Kamara

475
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 4: has the same kind of potential and capability, and what

476
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 4: we're seeing, we're seeing the Saints utilize all of the

477
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Speaker 4: skills that he brings to the table.

478
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Speaker 2: This is a fun offense to watch and I never imagine.

479
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 4: Going into this year that this was going to be

480
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 4: a musty TV offense based on what Clint Kubiak is

481
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 4: doing with Alvin Kamara, Derek Carr and all of the Bills.

482
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Speaker 2: And Wilson's with his offense.

483
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun watching their offensive tape. It was physical,

484
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 3: it was well coordinated, it was well designed, it was

485
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Speaker 3: well executed. And next year when I released my first

486
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Speaker 3: Top fifty, you guys, I need as friends and accountability

487
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: partners to you guys to say, Okay, put now close

488
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Speaker 3: your computer DJ and put it away and unplug your phone.

489
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: Because I love Talisi. Fuaga loved him, and I ended up.

490
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Speaker 3: I think I moved him down, maybe a couple spots,

491
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Speaker 3: not far. He was still way high up my list,

492
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Speaker 3: but I think he was my top offensive He was

493
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 3: right behind Alt. I think I had him right behind

494
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: Alt on my first list in terms of offensive lineman.

495
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: He's been awesome. Man, he has been awesome. And it's like, Okay,

496
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 3: well this test or, this drill who cares his tape

497
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: was so good. He was so physical. He's been excellent

498
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: along that offensive line. One interesting note, Doug Farrer had

499
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 3: a tweet and I just pulled it up because it

500
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 3: brought up a great point. You know, we always talk

501
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: about guys having to switch positions in the NFL and

502
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 3: offensive linemen. That can be difficult. But when you look

503
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Speaker 3: at Joe Alt, who's swapped, who from from left to right,

504
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: Dominique Pooney who's gone from tackle to guard, Fuaga who's

505
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 3: gone from the right to the left, Cooper Bebe he's

506
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 3: gone from tackle to back inside, these guys are playing

507
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 3: the best of these rookie linemen and they're playing a

508
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 3: position they didn't play last year. So let's keep an

509
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 3: open mind when we're evaluating players that that versatility can

510
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 3: Guys can.

511
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Speaker 2: Do different things. They don't need to be type cast,

512
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: so to speak.

513
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Speaker 5: How many forty four point performances have you seen where

514
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 5: the quarterback only completes eleven passes.

515
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Speaker 3: That's efficient, it's pretty amazing, an explosion bucks As a

516
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: play caller on the high school level, efficiency and explosiveness

517
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: is a good combination.

518
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 4: It is a good combination. And that's the thing that's

519
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 4: really interesting about the Saints. We won't necessarily call them

520
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 4: San Francisco in terms of like how they deploy their personnel,

521
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 4: but man, when you think about this offense and you

522
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: think about the number of play callers that have utilized

523
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Speaker 4: a version of the Kubiak Shanahan, whatever system that you

524
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 4: want to talk about, it creates a lot of stress

525
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 4: and a lot of headaches with defensive coordinators trying to

526
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Speaker 4: figure out how to handle all of the things that

527
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Speaker 4: they do, and with the Saints because they have, like

528
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 4: everyone talks about the quarterback being central to the offensive success,

529
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Speaker 4: I believe is that that offensive weapon that Alvin Kamari

530
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Speaker 4: Is that really puts you into buying because his ability

531
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Speaker 4: to run it, catch it, line up anywhere, and do

532
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 4: a bunch of different things really creates opportunities for the others.

533
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Speaker 2: Hass off to Clan Kubiak. This this is fine.

534
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Speaker 4: I can't wait to continue to see how he builds

535
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Speaker 4: and expand on what they've already shown the football world

536
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 4: thus far.

537
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: Also hat tip to.

538
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 3: Jeff Ireland, who's been you know, the personnel architect in

539
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: New Orleans for a long time, who's done an excellent

540
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: job of identifying and drafting players. Doesn't put his name

541
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Speaker 3: out there, isn't somebody that needs all the love. He's

542
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 3: been a general manager before. He is really good at

543
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: scouting players and adding talent. And the Saints team that

544
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Speaker 3: I don't know that we thought about much less talked

545
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: about all offseason is off to a two and zero

546
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: start and the team that cruise to a victory is

547
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings and a big time, big time game

548
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 3: for them, second year in a row. They beat the

549
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers, which, by the way, I did predict

550
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: that one. So of all the games that I got wrong,

551
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 3: and every fan base gives me crap. Hey, Viking fans.

552
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: Who's got your back here?

553
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

554
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: They match up well, it's a former coach when you

555
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: look at at someone and Kevin O'Connor, who's got a

556
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Speaker 3: very good understanding and familiarity with the way Kyle Shannon

557
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: and coaches and teaches and schemes it up.

558
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: He's got some recent success here.

559
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: But the biggest story for me in this ball game

560
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: was Sam You know, you look at Sam Donald two

561
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: under sixty eight yards, including this ninety seven yard bomb

562
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 3: to Justin Jefferson that was right on the money.

563
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Speaker 2: He's doing what we thought he would do.

564
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Speaker 6: Buck.

565
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: We knew we had all that ability, needed the opportunity.

566
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Speaker 3: I'm in here in Carolina and I'm sitting here thinking

567
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: they had Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield in the building.

568
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't working out for them there.

569
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Speaker 2: They both move on.

570
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: They've both been successful and more stable organizations. That leads

571
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Speaker 3: you to believe that maybe the quarterback wasn't the issue

572
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 3: when it comes to the struggles of the Carolina Panthers.

573
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Speaker 3: But going back through this game, Sam, I mean, I

574
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Speaker 3: just feel like I'd be repeating all the stuff that

575
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Speaker 3: I liked about him coming out. I would just say

576
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Speaker 3: the only difference maybe is if he has a negative play,

577
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: I think he doesn't let it snowball maybe like he

578
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 3: did at times with the Jets early on in his career.

579
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: He's able to flush it get to the next play.

580
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: But quick release, quick eyes. He can use his legs

581
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 3: when he needs to. His skill set has never been

582
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: a question, and now it looks like you're marrying that

583
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 3: with the right scheme, the right personnel, the right play caller.

584
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Speaker 4: It's really interesting to see Sam Donald's re emergence as

585
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 4: a player that people like, particularly in the football world,

586
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: because there were so many high grades on him in

587
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 4: the twenty eighteen class third overall pick. And what it

588
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 4: does is it goes to show you the importance of

589
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 4: the pieces around the quarterback.

590
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: It's not only the play caller.

591
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, who's outstanding when it comes to quarterback play,

592
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: but it's the weapons. It's having a Justin Jefferson on

593
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: the outside. It's having some of the other pieces like

594
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: the running game Tyd Chandler and Aaron Jones being able

595
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: to kind of combind for well over one hundred yards.

596
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 4: It's being able to give confidence to the quarterback because

597
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 4: you know, hey man, you don't have to do everything.

598
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: Your job is just to be the distributor.

599
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 4: And maybe for the first time and Sam Donald's playing career,

600
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: he has been given.

601
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: Those luxuries while being the starting quarterback.

602
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 4: It does say a lot when you go back and

603
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 4: you look at the situations that he was previously in,

604
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 4: particularly in Carolina, where so much of the blame was

605
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: placed on him and.

606
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: It was kind of placed on Baker not being good enough.

607
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 4: Maybe we're seeing coaching matters, the support staff matters.

608
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks need a.

609
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 4: Lot of things to play really well at the high level.

610
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 4: Sam Donald's kind of like an example of how if

611
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: you get the right things around the quarterback and you

612
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 4: have the right play caller whispering sweet, nothing's guy can

613
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: play at high level.

614
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 6: Play caller playmakers, right.

615
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 5: I mean we talked about that about, you know, justin Jefferson,

616
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Speaker 5: you know, taking that ninety seven yard touchdown connection a

617
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 5: lot of it. It was a deep throw, certainly from Darneld,

618
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: but still the catch and run there from Jefferson was

619
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Speaker 5: pretty impressive. I did want to look at things on

620
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 5: the offensive side of the ball for the San Francisco

621
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Speaker 5: forty nine ers.

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Speaker 6: Look they put up.

623
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Speaker 5: You know, they were production wized fine, four hundred and

624
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Speaker 5: seven total yards, but just thirty three of those four

625
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 5: hundred plus yards coming on third down, just a single

626
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 5: rushing yard of those thirty three coming on thre They

627
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: were two of ten on third down in this game,

628
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 5: converted one in the in the first quarter, not another

629
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Speaker 5: one until the fourth quarter. I think a lot of that. Basically,

630
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 5: you got to give some credit to what Brian Flores

631
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 5: is doing with that defense. Mixed up some really good

632
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 5: coverage looks. They had some man looks there that were

633
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 5: you know, the forty nine ers targets weren't able to

634
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 5: generate separation. Also some well timed zone packages that helped

635
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 5: take away the middle of the field that force brought

636
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 5: to hold the ball a little bit. One of those

637
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 5: inbreakers wanted that bender route a couple of times, just

638
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 5: couldn't get it, and then the pass rush eventually gets

639
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: to him here. So I mean, I think when you

640
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: look then at that defense in the framework of what

641
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 5: you know Equasi has done from an evaluation standpoint, in

642
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 5: front office standpoint, let's look at how they built this thing.

643
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 5: They had some pieces, certainly, but how about the free

644
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 5: agent acquisitions this year Jonathan Grenard big time, Andrew Van

645
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 5: Ginkel underrated, big time free agent acquisition for Brian.

646
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 6: Cashman, Like Cashman out there has done a nice job.

647
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 5: Gilmore coming in light to play a bunch of snaps

648
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: for him at corner, doing a really good job. And

649
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 5: then Dallas Turner who they take in the first round,

650
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 5: not just him Ivan Pace last year. And how about

651
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 5: Pat Jones the second from Pitt It was a third

652
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 5: round pick, and I'm he is coming on and really

653
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 5: flashing and becoming a major contributor on this defense.

654
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 6: Really solid in the run game, stood up.

655
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 5: George Kittle a couple of times in this game he

656
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 5: was in the backfield, closed down a run from the backside.

657
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 6: He had two of their five sacks.

658
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: DJ.

659
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 5: I mean like, I feel like he was a name.

660
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 5: We didn't talk about a ton. What did you have

661
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 5: in your report on Pat Jones?

662
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just pulled up my notes on him. So

663
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: interesting player. Patrick Jones come out of pit. He was

664
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: six h four to two so and sixty one pounds.

665
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: He ran four nine to four at his pro day,

666
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: so not a great time in terms of the workout.

667
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 3: I had him as my one hundred and forty sixth player.

668
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: I dropped him after that workout, which is a great

669
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: lesson to learn there because he was a ninetieth pick

670
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: and he's been excellent. So here are the notes. They

671
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: love him at the school. He's ahead to the chest,

672
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: our player like he just would bury his head into

673
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: dudes and walk them straight back. Needed a little bit

674
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: of a runway, not a loose bendy athlete at the top,

675
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: but played with maniacal effort, with his hair on fire.

676
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: They move him up and down the line of scrimmage.

677
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: Had had a great was down there at the Senior Bowl,

678
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: had a great ten time. So again, that's a lesson, right.

679
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: I teach it every year. I preach it every year

680
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: at the combine throw out the forty. With these pass rushers,

681
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: it's just a ten that matters. But Buck, I feel

682
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: like when you go back and look at that card

683
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: as we like to call it on the board, and

684
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: you just see that four nine four, and I'm sitting

685
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: here looking at all these other pass rushes, all these

686
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: explosive numbers, and I'm sitting there going, well, maybe I

687
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: maybe I pull back a little bit on the grid.

688
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: That's a that's a good reminder that's a lesson learned

689
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 3: there not to do that in the future because he's

690
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: playing really well.

691
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, playing really well.

692
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 4: And it is it is something we talked about, lessons

693
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: we learned and how you can get better. But DJ,

694
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 4: I feel like we've said it multiple times. Read too,

695
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: We've said it multiple times throughout this thing. Sometimes it's

696
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: just trusting to tape. It's trusting to tape, trusting with

697
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 4: your I s and then also hoping that the player

698
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: goes to the right spot, he's in the right environment

699
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: to fully flourish. And this league is is everything that

700
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: we talk about, like, is fun to watch the competitive

701
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 4: games is intriguing to watch the young players if they

702
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 4: land in the right spot. And it's also about the

703
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: reclamation projects, the guys that it doesn't work out initially,

704
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 4: but then it works out later because they find the

705
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: right spot.

706
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: Just so many lessons to be learned each and every weekend.

707
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: All right, let's let's get to the next game here

708
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: at Tampa Detroit. What was your takeaway there?

709
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 6: You no, I went in.

710
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, let me see what's going

711
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 5: on this. You know, the Baker Mayfield phenomenon, right, the

712
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 5: resurgence in Tampa, you know, deserves a good hard look

713
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 5: and I just kind of felt like they held on

714
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 5: on offense. I mean it's nothing spectacular, certainly, and they

715
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 5: just kind of held it, you know, kind of held tough.

716
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 6: I think credit to the Bucks defense for sure, but

717
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 6: they made some plays. Certainly.

718
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 5: You've seen this one here to Godwin, and Baker's been

719
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 5: really good these his running. The way he ran the

720
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 5: football in this game was big. This this you know,

721
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 5: design QB draw for Baker Mayfield didn't know that Liam

722
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 5: Cohen had that one in the playbook, but obviously worked

723
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 5: out for him there. I think this ultimately just comes

724
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 5: down to, you know, the Lions made some serious mistakes

725
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 5: in this game. Look at that interception right there. You

726
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: know that felt like it was probably a little PI

727
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 5: at the top of the break, Jameson Williams gets kind

728
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 5: of bumped off his route. I you know, I'd like

729
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 5: to see him be a little bit more competitive at

730
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 5: the top there with the ball in the air. But

731
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 5: you know, that was an interception. And then the second

732
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 5: one for Golf was just a killer. It got some

733
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 5: interior pressure and just kind of throws it up for grabs.

734
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 5: Nobody home except for three Buccaneers defenders there. I think,

735
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 5: you know again this will come down to And Dan

736
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 5: Campbell comes out after the game and says, this game

737
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 5: is one hundred percent on me. Head coach cost our

738
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 5: team this game because of the miscommunication that happened at

739
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 5: the end.

740
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 6: Of the first half.

741
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 5: Buckying with your head coaching perspective here, you can kind

742
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 5: of give us a sense of what's going through the

743
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 5: mind of a head coach. Right, So they get the ball,

744
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 5: they have no time, they've used their last time out,

745
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 5: they're down in the red zone. Golf completes as del

746
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 5: Mona Saint Brown. They got seventeen seconds left. The clock

747
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: is running tick tick tick tick tick tick, and it's like, okay,

748
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 5: you got the field goal team coming in from the sideline.

749
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: But Golf is thinking he's trying to get up there

750
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 5: and spike it, but you got and so he spikes it.

751
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 5: Field goal team's trying to get off. They don't get

752
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 5: off in time. You got too many men on the field.

753
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 5: So what's going on in the headsets there at that point?

754
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it obviously sounds like it's one of those things

755
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: where if the head coach is indecisive, it's not communicated

756
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: quickly to the special teams coach and to the offensive coordinator,

757
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: what are the next steps? What's the plan of action?

758
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: And you would like to think it's something that's been rehearsed.

759
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: You know what the magic number is in terms of

760
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: how many seconds we need to be able to either

761
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: run the field, go team on the field, or what

762
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 4: is the plan? And so I appreciate Dan Campbell owning

763
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: it because some of those times as a head coach,

764
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: you have a lot that you're thinking about and sometimes

765
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: those scenarios, that situation may have been one that you

766
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: just forgot to either talk about, rehear or go through

767
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: with the players.

768
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

769
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: It's an expensive learning lesson, but it's one that I

770
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 4: can guarantee you going forward, you will never have the

771
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 4: same kind of mistake.

772
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: At the end of mass right, I just love the

773
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: fact there was ownership there.

774
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: I mean, real quick.

775
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: Listen to listen to what he said after the game,

776
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: because this is this is what ownership looks like.

777
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: You know.

778
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: I asked for improvement from last week, was the story.

779
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: And we did improve, we did improve, and their coach

780
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: cost him. Their head coach cost him this one so.

781
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: Critical error in the half.

782
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: And uh me, we improved. There's areas we got to

783
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: continue to approve on. But it's not okay, there you go.

784
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: That's accountability.

785
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: That's why Dan Campbell's beloved by his players because he

786
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: owned it when it was when it was on him.

787
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: Last thought on this one is Chris god from Tampa

788
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: HTT talked about nothing really jumping out to me.

789
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: I just feel like he's just one of those underappreciated players.

790
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just being in the shadow of Mike Evans,

791
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: but you watch him all the guy does.

792
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: He can play inside, he can play outside.

793
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: He's strong, he's physical, he's good after the catch, he's

794
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: competitive in the run game like just a really really

795
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: solid player. That is one of those shadow guys. I

796
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: just feel like he hasn't necessarily got his due. But

797
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: I remember when Tom Brady first got to Tampa, of

798
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: all the different players they had on that particular team,

799
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: Chris Godwin was the one that he would often mention

800
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: as someone who was just a pros pro and someone

801
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: that he felt comfortable with. So just want to give

802
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: Chris Godwin his flowers. Alright, guys, this probably was the

803
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: game most anticipated, maybe you know, the most intriguing matchup,

804
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: and it played out that way.

805
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. Once again, they start zero to two.

806
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: They had every right and opportunity to win this ball game,

807
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: but just did not make the one play that needed

808
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: to be made. It was we'll start there, Buck, I

809
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: guess I can go with you first. It is past interference.

810
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: People lose their minds about it. Chiefs have won back

811
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: to back Super Bowls three out of four. I get

812
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: all that that was a legit penalty. This was a

813
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: game the Bengals had to win, had it right in

814
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 3: front of them, just didn't finish.

815
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta finish the game.

816
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: And I mean in the odds when you turn the

817
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: ball over three times, it's really hard to win it

818
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: this league. And this was a game that was right

819
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: there or set upon a platter for the Bengals to

820
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 4: take advantage of it, and they didn't. And it's one

821
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: of those things that we'll look back at the end

822
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 4: of the year, whether they get into postseason or not,

823
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: or if they were what seed they earned.

824
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna regret giving this one away.

825
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: But if you're the Kansaity Chiefs, I just liken it

826
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: to Andy Reid and the Chiefs have mastered the art

827
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 4: of winning. There is something about when you win games

828
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: and you're used to winning, it just continues to kind

829
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 4: of build that confidence or that know how to get

830
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: it done. And that's what I see when I look

831
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 4: at the Kancity Chiefs. No matter the situation and that circumstance,

832
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 4: they have enough in that that that bank, that mental

833
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: bank of how to win, and they get it done.

834
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 4: And it's gonna be hard to knock them out because

835
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 4: the two time champs just continue to find ways to

836
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 4: win games.

837
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 5: I think I look at a cause and effect in

838
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 5: this one. DJ Bucky, I get your your thoughts on this, guys.

839
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 5: I think we started to see the armor come off

840
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 5: of the rookie left tackle Kingsley Suamatia in this game

841
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 5: against Yeah, I got bench late in the game one

842
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 5: Ye Morris had to come in and Morris, I mean

843
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 5: almost helped him lose the game, negated a you know,

844
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: a twenty one yard catch by Rashid Rice with illegal

845
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 5: hands to the face, little tikie tacky. But can't can't

846
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 5: put yourself in a position like that late in the

847
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 5: game when you're trying to go down there and win it.

848
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 5: And eventually they did get bailed out by the p

849
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 5: I on the Bengal side of things that allow for

850
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 5: the Bucker game winner. But Trey Hendrickson, you know, thirty

851
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 5: two percent pressure rate this week, highest in the league,

852
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 5: and he leads the league through two weeks. So it's

853
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: not just Kingsley that's a dang good player out there

854
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 5: on that edge for But he had his way with

855
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 5: Kingsley Suamati in this game at two sacks coming off

856
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 5: that edge and you know, obviously forced the line up

857
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 5: change there. But here's the thing, like the cause and

858
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: effect part, right, either Andy Reid and companies saw something

859
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 5: in this Bengals defense that they wanted to run the

860
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 5: football or they did not want to subject Kingsley to

861
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 5: any further issues with Trey Hendrickson and subject Patrick Mahomes

862
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 5: any further its because they ran the ball very well

863
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 5: in this game all the way up until the point

864
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 5: where Isaiah Pacheco left the game with what is now

865
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 5: known as a you know, fractured ankle, going to be

866
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 5: out six to eight weeks.

867
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 6: He had nineteen carries in this game for ninety yards.

868
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 5: Carson Steel had seven carries in this game and was

869
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 5: getting some big carries late in the game to try

870
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: to ice this thing. So, you know, I think that

871
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 5: part of it DJ probably goes hand in hand with

872
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 5: how we saw the Chiefs operate. Because anytime you're seeing

873
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 5: you know, Travis Kelcey get three targets in a game

874
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 5: and only one catch, you know that they were doing

875
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 5: some things on the ground or trying to minimize some

876
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 5: things through the air.

877
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

878
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 3: Look, I'm not in the camp that's surprised that Kingsley

879
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: Suamtea is having difficulties.

880
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: I thought he was a project, you know. That's why

881
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised he went as high

882
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: as he did.

883
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: He was my one hundred and first player, so I

884
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: he was my fourteenth tackle in the draft and now

885
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: the he looks great on paper with six ozho four

886
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: five three twenty six, he's got thirty four and change arms.

887
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: He ran a five oh four to forty. He is

888
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: you know, he's very quick footed. Going through my notes,

889
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: he's thick, he's proportioned, he's got quicks going to the

890
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 3: second level. He's pretty good in space. He just ducks

891
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: his head a lot at the point of attack, and

892
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: his hands are very poor. Like there was a lot

893
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 3: of work that needs to be done with his hands,

894
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: so you know they're going to try and work on

895
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: that and try and fix that the best they can.

896
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: But I thought it was pretty It showed you how

897
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: important that game was to them, that they hooked him,

898
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: you know, as someone who they had put their trust in,

899
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: you know, right out to shoot that they weren't going

900
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 3: to watch that horror show anymore with with the struggles

901
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: he was having against Trey Hendrickson. So interesting from that standpoint.

902
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: On the other side, Cincinnati Buck, they I believe they're

903
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: one in nine in their first two games of the

904
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: season since Joe Burrow's been there. Like they just have

905
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: this way of just kind of starting out low before

906
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 3: they find their footing and they'll then they'll get it going.

907
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: But they're not whole right now roster wise, or not

908
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: totally healthy. Offensively, Chases Gollie. He very frustrated. That was

909
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 3: a costly penalty in that game. He's got to get

910
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 3: his emotions under check a little bit. But you'll see

911
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: Vosh having a good game for them. I guess I

912
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: say this because I've seen it in the past. I

913
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 3: don't really worry about them. I think they're going to

914
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: be fine. I think they're going to be Okay, that's

915
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: the defending champ. They didn't play their best and should

916
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: have won the game.

917
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's interesting about that.

918
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 4: You talk about the slow stars and how what one

919
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 4: and nine and the Joe Burrow era, and we always

920
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: talk about AH to two start being a death sentence,

921
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: but when you really think about it, I mean, you

922
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 4: have seventeen games. There's plenty of opportunity for the schedule

923
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: to kind of come back to you where you have

924
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: an opportunity to close ground and do those things I

925
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 4: do want to win. You're Zach Taylor and the approach

926
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: that they have taken throughout the preseason where they don't

927
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: really play their guys. They're not really physical, and we

928
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: have talked about the Kan City Chiefs who jump out

929
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 4: on people because they do play there guys.

930
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: You would like to start out faster, but you do

931
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: know as a marathon not a sprint. It just kind of.

932
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 4: Cuts some of the cushion that the Bengals have in

933
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: terms of having a couple of hiccups later in the year.

934
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to be playing their best.

935
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 4: Once we get into the muss of November December to

936
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 4: be able to kind of secure a playoff berth and

937
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: to be one of the teams that we thought it

938
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: would be, which would be.

939
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 2: A top team.

940
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: It's a team that when you get over to the

941
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 3: Kansas City side of things, is going to be without

942
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: Isaiah Pacheco.

943
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: I'd believe was six to eight weeks coming off of

944
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: surgery coming out of that game.

945
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: So gonna be a little more steel action there for

946
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: the Kansas City chiefsrtt. Let's get to the next one here.

947
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: Maybe one of the big surprises of the day Vegas

948
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: going on the road. They lose to Jim Harbaugh and

949
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 3: they go on the road and they beat John Harball,

950
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: which puts the Ravens at zero to two for the

951
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: first time since twenty fifteen.

952
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.

953
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 5: I think the guy that you're going to talk about

954
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 5: here in a minute, Brock Bauers at a big, big,

955
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 5: big say in the Raiders comeback effort there in the

956
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 5: fourth quarter in this game, at four straight scoring drives

957
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 5: to end the game.

958
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 6: That's winning football right there if the Las Vegas Raiders.

959
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 5: Now for the Ravens, I kind of looked at that side,

960
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 5: what do we see him with this, you know, Baltimore offense,

961
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 5: what do we see?

962
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 6: This is I think what they want to look like.

963
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 5: I mean, had twenty seven attempts on the ground, went

964
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: for five yards of carry. I mean Lamar was I

965
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 5: think five carries forty five yards is about right what

966
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 5: you want to see from him. And I think ultimately

967
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 5: this comes down to an interception, a turnover that you know,

968
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 5: Rashad Bateman probably should have caught for the Ravens. Tough catch,

969
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 5: but it goes right into the arms of robertsplane and

970
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: so they turn it over that way. They made some

971
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 5: you know, they had a real hard time converting third

972
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 5: downs in the fourth quarter and extending drives and staying

973
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: on the field to try to put this game out

974
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 5: of reach. And so I went back and looked at

975
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 5: what happened on the early downs to force those third

976
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 5: down situations, and they had some critical errors on two

977
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 5: drives that ended in three and outs. They had a

978
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 5: second down where essentially like a read option with Lamar

979
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 5: he pulls it, he's about to take it, and Mark

980
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 5: Andrews has a one on one block.

981
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 6: With looks like a corner and just kind of whiffs it.

982
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 5: Or there was maybe some miscommunication about what was happening,

983
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 5: and that corner just has an easy layup to bring

984
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 5: Lamar down right there, and so they're in a third,

985
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: you know, a third down situation. They don't get next

986
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 5: one right guard completely misses Crosby on a stunt and

987
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 5: Crosby just smashes Lamar for a second sack of the game.

988
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 5: You just kind of can't have those on those early

989
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 5: second downs, on those critical drives in the fourth quarter

990
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 5: where you're trying to run the ball out and they

991
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 5: didn't convert on third and thus giving the Raiders an

992
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 5: opportunity to go find brock Bauers there d DJ.

993
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bowers was awesome this second week in a row.

994
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: And Buck I don't think that it was an exaggeration

995
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: when I said it at the time. I thought he'd

996
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: be their best offensive weapon this year. You're seeing it

997
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: through a couple of games, his speed, his ability to

998
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: line up all over the field. They've run a nice

999
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: little seven man protection, you know, getting just a couple

1000
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: guys out in the route so they give menshoot time.

1001
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: They're able to get kind of that little wineback going

1002
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 3: backside off of a boot.

1003
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: They've hit that two weeks in a row.

1004
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 3: Hit it against the Chargers, hit it against the Ravens,

1005
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: getting Brock Bowers to ball in space, and for a

1006
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: team that doesn't have a ton, He's already proving himself

1007
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: to be a good selection there for Tom Tellusca with

1008
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 3: his first pick as the Raiders GM, yeah, he has.

1009
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 4: Proven to be a really good pick. And you can't

1010
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: go wrong with those offensive weapons. When you talk about

1011
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 4: a guy like Brock Borroughs who can do so many

1012
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 4: different things, and you know, the tied end position is

1013
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: one that is really tricky to scout and evaluate.

1014
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 2: But the things that we have found as those guys

1015
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: who are hyperds.

1016
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: On the perimeter who can do a lot lineup outside,

1017
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: lineup inside, play the traditional white or the flex while

1018
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 4: also taking the ball on handoffs, you can have a

1019
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 4: lot of success and a lot of fun with those

1020
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 4: and so I am not surprised to see the Raiders

1021
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: have success with him.

1022
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: Kind of as the focal point of the passing game.

1023
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to seeing them expand their multi tied

1024
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: end packages and do some fun stuff to really make

1025
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 4: the tied end the primary option in their passing game.

1026
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: That's a big win. That's a big win for the

1027
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: Raiders going on the road and knocking off the Ravens.

1028
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: Buck you were there for the clash of the Clemson quarterbacks.

1029
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson. Look, this is a game that

1030
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: I think you can make a case both teams feel

1031
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: like you got to have this one. Your Jags don't

1032
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: come away with the Trevor Lawrence. Oh, and seven is

1033
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: last starts. At last seven starts. You see that little

1034
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: nug on the screen there. Let's start first of all, there,

1035
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: what the heck is wrong with your Jags?

1036
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 4: Dj I would equate it to a baseball player, a

1037
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: hitter being in a bad slump where you are out

1038
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: at your last twenty two at bats. But we know

1039
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: in life there's no such thing as momentum in terms

1040
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 4: of every interval at bat is a different experience, and

1041
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: so every game for the Jags is a different experience.

1042
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 4: But there feels like this heavy thing hanging over top

1043
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: of them because of the way they finished last season

1044
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: and the way that they lost in Week one, And

1045
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: so when you're on the sideline, you see a team

1046
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: that doesn't have that same confidence and swagger as you

1047
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 4: would think early in the year because most teams look

1048
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: their teams to start oh and one, but then week

1049
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: two you bounced right back, but it seemed like there

1050
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: was more weighing them down than just a and oh

1051
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: and one start where you kind of fell apart in

1052
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. This is a team that really needs

1053
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: their stars to play like stars, and Trevor Lawrence obviously

1054
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 4: is the biggest star. I will say, Trevor lawrence evolution

1055
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 4: and maturation as a leader came out. I saw him

1056
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: verbally chastise his teammates and encourage them. Hey man, we

1057
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: got to get the communication right because there's so many

1058
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 4: pre snap penalties and little things.

1059
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: That should be cleaned up by now.

1060
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence spoke out about that, and as he continues

1061
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 4: to kind of grow into his role as the leader

1062
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 4: of the team, he has to check people like that.

1063
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: They're struggling right now. Offensively.

1064
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 4: Defensively they're playing pretty well, but right now, Trevor Lawrence

1065
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: in this offense, they got to get going and he

1066
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: needs his best players Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram, Travis Cittienn

1067
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 4: to help him. Because I will say this, when you

1068
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 4: see the CA that's Brian Thomas Junior that he made

1069
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 4: on Denzel Award down the field. DJ, the replay doesn't

1070
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: give it justice because you watched it field level. When

1071
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 4: you're looking at wide receivers, you always are trying to

1072
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: look at how they accelerate when the ball is in

1073
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 4: the air. This gear that BTJ has is remarkable. He

1074
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: has the potential to be really special in this league.

1075
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 4: He has just scratched the surface on how good he

1076
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: can be as a wide receiver.

1077
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 2: One.

1078
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 6: I kept watching that one.

1079
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 5: In fact, Bucky, I was like that the adjustment to

1080
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 5: that ball, just the way that that thing, I mean,

1081
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 5: that thing was, I mean was humming, and that was

1082
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 5: really impressive.

1083
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: You know what.

1084
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 5: I think a lot of times when we see games

1085
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 5: like this, the team puts up thirteen points, like, ah,

1086
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 5: you know, no explosive plays, They're just thinking and dunking.

1087
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 6: It all over the place.

1088
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 5: They had five explosive plays that accounted for one hundred

1089
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 5: and seventy two yards of their passing offense in this game,

1090
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 5: and so you take those out and outside of those plays,

1091
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 5: DJ treumbor Lawrence.

1092
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 6: Is nine of twenty six about forty yards. So it's

1093
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 6: like the opposite right, Like.

1094
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 5: They couldn't figure out maybe the layups is kind of

1095
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 5: what it felt like in this one. So I mean, like, yeah,

1096
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 5: they had the big plays, but they got to make

1097
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 5: the routine ones too, no doubt and quickly on Deshaun,

1098
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 5: much better game for him. Buck and I were talking

1099
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 5: before we got started here today about looked like he

1100
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 5: found a little bit of the swagger that had been missing.

1101
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: So that's interesting to see.

1102
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: Also, you know, mechanical stuff that I mentioned last week

1103
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: about sinking a little too much, sinking into throws and

1104
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: not being up up a little more upright, not getting

1105
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: so low and crouched and kind of losing losing his

1106
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: balance so to speak, that was a little bit better

1107
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 3: this week as well. So good for good for the

1108
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown's a good win for them over the Jacks.

1109
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: Last game here, Buck Washington and the New York Giants,

1110
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 3: the Giants stumble, Jayden Daniels gets his first win. A

1111
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: very quick, efficient game from him going through that tape,

1112
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 3: a chance to see him just get the ball out

1113
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: of his hands, get it where it needs to go,

1114
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: let guys run after the catch.

1115
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: I thought, Cliff.

1116
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 3: Kingsbury, someone who does understand the quick game, the screen game,

1117
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 3: you know, think about his background and where he came

1118
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: from with Mike Leach did a nice job of that.

1119
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: And I also thought, you know, he took sacks, but

1120
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes I feel like sacks we view as negatives.

1121
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: And obviously as a veteran, you throw the ball away,

1122
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: but I'll take sacks over forces over forcing.

1123
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: Ball into harm's way. He avoided that. He did avoid that.

1124
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: And you know the other thing that I like about

1125
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 4: Jon Daniels, I like the way they utilized his running

1126
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 4: ability we saw in the clip, like just kind of

1127
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 4: the way they were able to pull it and have

1128
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: a little escort.

1129
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: Coming around the corner and doing some of those things.

1130
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,959
Speaker 4: I also like the poise and him getting his first game,

1131
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 4: I guess game winning victory or whatever you want to

1132
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 4: call it.

1133
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: But they need to score touchdowns. They can't keep selling

1134
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: for field goals, but to be able to.

1135
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: Win again against the division rival. As a young quarterback

1136
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 4: in your second start, you have to like that. Dan

1137
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 4: Winn certainly has plenty to build upon, but he has

1138
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: alike where his young quarterback, how is young quarterback is progressive?

1139
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 5: I just got one thing on this one, and it

1140
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 5: was the quote from Dan Quinn after what this team's

1141
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 5: been through.

1142
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 6: I'm not about making field goals, and they.

1143
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 5: Made seven, so I would agree, you know you gonna

1144
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 5: get your first win of the season.

1145
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 6: I'd kick seventeen field goals if that's what it took.

1146
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 5: And so credit to Austin Cyber for making seven field

1147
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 5: goals like that is incredible and obviously you'd like to

1148
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 5: turn some of those into touchdowns, but I thought that

1149
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 5: was pretty cool.

1150
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: Well, I will add this to finish it up with

1151
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: the Giants. Make sure that I get the number right here,

1152
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: because I was going for the tape. It jumped out

1153
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: to me. I mentioned the Panthers and the bewilderment of

1154
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: having traded up to get xavierly Get and then not

1155
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: throwing him one target in that game. Hey, the Giants

1156
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: know they've got one in elite neighbors and they're not

1157
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 3: affair to wear him out.

1158
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: Eighteen targets eighteen.

1159
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 3: Ten for a buck twenty seven and the speed is real,

1160
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: the shallow crossers getting in out of breaks. He is dynamic,

1161
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: he is going to be fun. So for a team

1162
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: that desperately needed a guy like this, he's just what

1163
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: the doctor ordered and didn't result in the win. But

1164
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: I applaud them for feeding him the rock, something that

1165
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: you know, some of these other teams got to figure out.

1166
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: You got your best players, your best athletes, give him

1167
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 3: the ball, give him a chance. And that's what Brian

1168
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: Daball did with Malik Neighbors. All Right, that was a

1169
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 3: jam packed show, went through a zillion games. It was

1170
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: a fun weekend Week two. Looking forward to the rest

1171
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: of the week, we got some great guests coming up

1172
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 3: on the show. I will leave those for you to

1173
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 3: figure out, but it's college football related.

1174
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: You're gonna enjoy it. Fun week here at Moon to six.

1175
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.

1176
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 4: Yeah,