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Speaker 1: First of all, bro Man, we appreciate you being on

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Speaker 1: here with us and yeah, yeah, yeah, we got another

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Speaker 1: high school got you. You don't know nothing about that now,

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Speaker 1: you don't know nothing about that. Q. You know, straight

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Speaker 1: have to let Q knowes move. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You don't understand that right there, But appreciate you bro

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Speaker 1: Man coming on rocking with us. Man, Man, we followed

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Speaker 1: your whole career from high school on. You want our guys,

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Speaker 1: Me and Q, we always had a special place in

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Speaker 1: our heart for you. Just stuff that Jay Billy said

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Speaker 1: when you got drafted, which we just felt was just

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Speaker 1: for word type of guys where we come from and

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Speaker 1: how we do our thing. But Man, we loved your career,

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Speaker 1: love how you play, how you carry yourself. Man, just

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Speaker 1: you know you our guy, Man. So we appreciate you

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on the show.

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Speaker 3: Whenever I have a free time to jump on the show,

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Speaker 3: I'm all for it. I looked up to you'all guys

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Speaker 3: growing up too, you know, QU and Phoenix doing the

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Speaker 3: things that you did before then you being a staple

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Speaker 2: And then when when de Miles came.

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Speaker 3: Out of high school, you know y'all doing that, and

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Speaker 3: you know, y'all said the kind of trending for guys,

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Speaker 3: to get y'all y'all not on on that too. Guys

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Speaker 1: Tell them, man, appreciate it straight up. When you first

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Speaker 3: Tayshaun Prince man Pal the Prince that that's what happened

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Speaker 3: at ended up talent. They gave me like a thirty man.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't. He was just moved, kept moving. And you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, I got to thank him for that, and uh,

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Speaker 3: just all the rest of the guys that showed me

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Speaker 3: you know different things, yo.

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Speaker 2: Yo yo. We live on location.

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Speaker 4: Me and the blackest One were going virtue on this

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Speaker 4: one man. But we got them towers connecting us. Baby,

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Speaker 4: we got one of our paintings in them pulling up

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Speaker 4: We got screens Finals, Slam Dunk champ at l legend

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Speaker 2: In the building. We appreciate Velis Feelers. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Powder Springs. Georgia, I ain't know your pops play in

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, he did, he did, so you came up

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Speaker 2: Well, I think he he might have played with the

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't think he played like I don't think

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Speaker 2: Played at ben Hill. He played for the adult team.

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Speaker 3: That's why I learned how to play the game, and

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Speaker 1: When you decided to go to a high school, it's

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Speaker 3: You know, back then you can't you couldn't just really

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Speaker 3: So I mean that my team was it was it

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Speaker 1: What made you make the decision to go to Oak Hill?

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Speaker 1: When I was in high school, my school closed down

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Speaker 1: I ran into Rashan and he was like, yeah, Okill.

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Speaker 3: Hell no, no, it's definitely. It's definitely the bulldogs. You

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It's just like an invisible line, like a certain time

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's over with, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 3: And it's probably still the same way today, but it's

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Speaker 3: I was already top five in my class and he was.

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Speaker 3: So the football coaches always want me to do some

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Speaker 2: You can name up with my name on it, you

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, why would he even keep these? Like

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Speaker 2: But we just didn't. We just did couldn't get on

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Speaker 3: So my dad was like, man, we're just gonna We're

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Speaker 2: For the transition, Yeah, for the transition to the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely speak on the legendary Steve Smills man, because I love,

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Speaker 1: I love Steve Smith to go and I just I

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Speaker 1: just how man, how legendary and the good of the

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Speaker 2: He's legendary, man. I mean he's a goat for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, did that prepare you for

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Speaker 3: It helped me a lot that whole that whole year

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Speaker 3: And I'm honest, I loved it. I feel like it

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Speaker 1: Was that anybody who almost got you before you decided

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Speaker 3: I committed to Indiana, so Mike Davis?

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Speaker 3: And he was, you know, congratulating me, but he was like,

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Speaker 1: See, I was when I came out. I was scared

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Speaker 1: So when they asked me, I was like, yeah, if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, things happened throughout the draft.

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Speaker 3: I mean he had a hell of a career. So

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Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna go before I went. When

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Speaker 2: Not because I've been here my whole life, you know

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Speaker 3: So I just want I just wanted to really experience

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I just wanted to.

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Speaker 1: How many workouts you had to do leading up to

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Speaker 2: Probably about ten? Ten workouts, Yeah, ten workouts.

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Speaker 3: like other players wouldn't work out with me, you know

438
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

439
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 2: I worked out with a couple of guys and.

440
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 3: They were ducking it and at the at the couple

441
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 3: of workouts, like I worked out one time when somebody

442
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 3: was like, all right, we're done.

443
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 2: It's cool.

444
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: Then I worked out with another person twice and they

445
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: was like, I'm not.

446
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: Working out with him no more. Yeah, I was on.

447
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: Some ship like anybody can get it, you know what

448
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So Trim was on the same type of

449
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 3: energy though. So we one on one dog and I

450
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: look big like.

451
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: They calling fouls, you know what I'm saying. I'm like,

452
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: all right, cool, we done. They get the prison ball one.

453
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 3: I'm like, so in a while, like he had, he

454
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 3: had to stop it like, hey, man, look y'all, we

455
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 3: ain't look, we ain't coming here for that. We come

456
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: here and watch out the pete like man ship I

457
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 3: could have been started calling fouls y'all went up.

458
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: Y'all see these dogs here. I knew then. I say, look,

459
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 2: I rock with these too. I say, look at them.

460
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 4: I say, you know, black, you know you don't get

461
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 4: to see that really in a pre like a pre

462
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 4: draft workout. Yeah, boy's got to it. And they got

463
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 4: to it to the point to where, like I say,

464
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 4: they was about to both go turn up on each other.

465
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: I said, though to this day, still to this day,

466
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 3: I just got the phone with like yesterday, yesterday, like

467
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: my real partner.

468
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

469
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 2: You never know who who you lock in with on

470
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: that journey man workout.

471
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 4: I remember believing that, like, okay, we had two little

472
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 4: dogs in the candle too.

473
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 2: It was in that barking but barking.

474
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the draft because, like you know,

475
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: we watched the draft every year and just what Jay

476
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: Billis said just like really pissed me off because I

477
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: always root it for the guys who went straight out

478
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: of high school and we were starting to dominate all

479
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: the drafts. You know what I'm saying, all the drafts.

480
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: What was your thoughts? What was your family saying when

481
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: you heard Jay bill Is saying what he was saying.

482
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you know you could hear it through You know,

483
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: you can hear it. You can hear it when you're

484
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: walking up, you.

485
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: Can hear it.

486
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: So I mean my mindset was I was just happy

487
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 3: to be drafted, but you know you hear it, and

488
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 3: you know I'm eighteen, so you know, when I look

489
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: back at it. I kind of looked back at it,

490
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 3: maybe like two or three years ago, and I was like, man,

491
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: I handled that like a real professional, you know what

492
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because you know, you got to look back

493
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 3: at it. Jay Billis was a college jennaist, so like

494
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: you know, I think he was a little jealous and

495
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: mad that a lot of these guys that he couldn't

496
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: come imitate on going straight to the league, you know,

497
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: and so things that he said it was like of

498
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 3: no knowledge at all, you know what I'm saying.

499
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 2: He never met me a day of my life. Still

500
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: to this day, I never met Jay Billi, so well.

501
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't fuck with Ja Billi to this day because

502
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: he did that ship to you, and I was I was.

503
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: Super absolutely, So.

504
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's you know, people people dodge

505
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 3: people for a reason. You know, that's an uncomfortable conversation

506
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: to have for him, because I was successful, you know

507
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: what I mean, This.

508
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: Is the greatest moment, Like, this is the pinnacle of

509
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: what you It's a celebration. You don't pose to speak

510
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: like that about nobody just getting drafted.

511
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's it's crazy. It's kind of hard, man.

512
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: But I mean I'm I'm just I'm a different type

513
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: of individual now.

514
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 2: So it's like I don't. I don't. I'm with you,

515
00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: I don't.

516
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: It's like it is what it is though, you know

517
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I look back at his career

518
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: and it's like.

519
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: It is what it is, man.

520
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I definitely, I definitely understand man, because.

521
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 3: When the person that the person that's that's saying it,

522
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 3: you just got to look back, google him, research him

523
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: a little bit.

524
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, since you know what I.

525
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: Mean, research him, see what's going on. Then when you

526
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: see that, when you see what you.

527
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: See on the back end of the research, you can't

528
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: you can't get mad. You can't get mad.

529
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 4: You know, how was it like because you went to

530
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: the actual draft?

531
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? How was it for you?

532
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Like that's all of

533
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: our biggest thing ever, Like you take your family down,

534
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 4: you going y'all was in New York City, right?

535
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, New York City. You got the fan going

536
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: out there, Like how was that?

537
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 4: You know, those days leading up to everything and like

538
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 4: this like you right on the cusp for your dream,

539
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 4: Like how was you feeling like going through all of

540
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 4: that and the photo shoot, the press conferences, the interviews

541
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: and then you know, getting your suit and all that.

542
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 4: How was you leading up to the draft?

543
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: It was a fun process, like I said, but it

544
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: was still like a lot of like nervous nervousness around

545
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: it because you never you don't know where you're going.

546
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: And then you know that day talking to my agents,

547
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: they was like, you know you eagle dollar, Josh Scherton

548
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 3: is one of y'all gonna drop.

549
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, damn.

550
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: So you know you're going through that, You're like, damn, Okay,

551
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 3: which one is?

552
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: It was me? But I'm like I'm like, which one

553
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: is it gonna be? You know what I'm saying.

554
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 3: So, you know, being at the table and then you know,

555
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: getting picked seventeen. That's that's been in the green room

556
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: for a long time, so that's eighteen.

557
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: Like here man. So it's like I'm sitting there like

558
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like jittery.

559
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: Trying to figure out you know what i mean, bite

560
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 3: my nails, trying to figure out who gonna pick me?

561
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: And then you know, when I when I heard my

562
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: name caught up, it was just a relief, and then

563
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: you know, we went to the what forty to forty

564
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: club jay Z had out there in New York. You know,

565
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: took my parents there and then you know, it was

566
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: a fun time. Man, it was a fun time for everybody.

567
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: It was a fun experience and you know the rest

568
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: was history.

569
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: So how was it when you you get to Atlanta,

570
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: you go through training camp and you finally see that

571
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: jersey with your last name in your locker already set up,

572
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: ready to go. How was that? What kind of dreams

573
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: and memories you have of that?

574
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 2: Cheesy couldn't stop cheesing.

575
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: You know, you had to let us sit in there

576
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: for a minute.

577
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

578
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: I didn't want to touch it. You know what I'm saying.

579
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: I don't think it was real, you know what I mean? Yeah,

580
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

581
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: It was.

582
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: You know, it's like the light was hitting it right.

583
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: You know, every day was just perfect that day.

584
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, your rookie year, you had walk dog. You

585
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Team Tlor that was my veg Telor.

586
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: I got t little harder. How was them as teammates?

587
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: You know, I know played for the Lakers. He lived

588
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: right across the street from me from l A. But

589
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: he took care of me, like that was my guy.

590
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah here a real woman.

591
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: We h I think we got him Like in December,

592
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: John Barry was there first. So Antoine Walker was like

593
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: my introduction to the NBA.

594
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? He was my introduction man.

595
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: You know.

596
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: So like when I first got there, we wasn't like

597
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 3: a super gambling team. We didn't have a lot of

598
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 3: guys that that was like you know that that that gamble.

599
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: So it was like I had Lou after I had Antoine,

600
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

601
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: I didn't have them both.

602
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have probably been a fun That had

603
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: probably been a fun experience to see both of them

604
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: in their interactions with each other. But man, a Twine.

605
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: That's why I showed me a lot, man, you know

606
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like he was a great vet. He

607
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: was a great vit. He was a great vit. That's

608
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: all I can say. I want to I want to

609
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: give up too much. I got the stories.

610
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we know what.

611
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: Too.

612
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you feel like you ferred out your

613
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: rookie year? You getting the opportunity, You're not playing a

614
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: lot of minutes, which this is the first time in

615
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: your life not playing a minute, So you gotta kind

616
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: of get your stuff going quick as normal. You know,

617
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: it's a different situation, But how did you feel like

618
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: holding up? Did you feel like you was ready and

619
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: your body was ready, you was physical enough to play

620
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: on that level with your rookie year.

621
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: I think I was ready. I was. I came in

622
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: super confident, you know what I mean.

623
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: So if you don't come in with the mental aspect

624
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: of like, I'm finna show these guys something, You're not

625
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: gonna make it, you know what I mean.

626
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: So you have to have that.

627
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: You gotta kind of have that imagination that can't nobody

628
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: stop you, you know what I'm saying, Because you're stepping in

629
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: an arena with like grown men, you know, thirty five

630
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: years old, you're eighteen years old.

631
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: You're trying to figure.

632
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: Out how to find your niche amongst some you know, professionals,

633
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: season professionals. So I came in as a sponge, you

634
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like, for the most part, mentally,

635
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: I was confident in myself, but humbly knowing that I

636
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 3: didn't know ship, you know what I'm saying. So I

637
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: wanted to be able to learn. Like I said, those

638
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: veterans were big for me. I had Kenny Anderson. Oh ass,

639
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: Kevin Willis.

640
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He was he just big.

641
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: Willis had Jean jeans Willis and Walker jeans Man. You know,

642
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: he literally he literally like stay the next year of

643
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: the league to get his jeans off. You know, he

644
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: every team that we went, It went around about every

645
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: every team that we went around, he's shopping his jeans off.

646
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, I was like, okay, so this

647
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: is the last lap. He's trying to get his business going,

648
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: which which I ain't mad at it, but he had

649
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: everybody on the team wearing walking So yeah, seeing him

650
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: and Kenny Anderson go at it. I mean we went

651
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: in thirteen games my rookie year, so you know, from

652
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: not playing to starting to play because it was it

653
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: was we.

654
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: Weren't going nowhere, so it might as well play.

655
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: I mean, just being a part of that was big,

656
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: you know, because you got to you know, most of

657
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: our high school careers and you know, people that come

658
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: in from the collegiate level, we're winners, you know what

659
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So like coming into a team, win the

660
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: thirteen games, and you're going to different cities and you

661
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: can't go out because you're eighteen, you know what I'm saying.

662
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: So you're just like in the hotel looking pie for it.

663
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: Just wait on you know, can't go to sleep. You

664
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: gotta wait on the veterans because the veteran's gonna call

665
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: you just the best with you. You gotta deliver stuff

666
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: and do all this stuff, you know what I'm saying.

667
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm just the errand boy at this point.

668
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm just like thirty. I went at thirty. We're getting

669
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: to ask kicked the every night and I got to

670
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: deliver mail, you know what I'm saying.

671
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, tell me this.

672
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: How was your experience going to All Star winning the

673
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: Dunk Contest though rookie year?

674
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? In high school?

675
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: Straight out of high school, dude, Like, did you decide

676
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 4: was that something that you always wanted to do, was

677
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: like go go be in a dunk contest when you

678
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: got to the league, And was that a dream of yours?

679
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: Uh? Not really.

680
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be an All Star, something something

681
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: with the All Star I wanted to be involved with

682
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: something with the All Star.

683
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: But you know, me being a high flyer, I knew

684
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: that was going to be my calling.

685
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: But going out there eighteen, one of my best friends

686
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: still to this day, Michael Cash.

687
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: He was a freshman in college. So we all went

688
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: out there and a guy named Andy Gates. We hung out.

689
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: We had a great time. It was a great experience

690
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: for all of us, you know what I'm saying. So

691
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: I was kind of too to kind of hang out

692
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: with those older guys. But you know, Kenya Martin was

693
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: one of my veterans, so he was out there. He

694
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: played with Denver, so you know he was He was

695
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: another guy that you know when I was out there,

696
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: he made.

697
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: Sure I was straight. I had a lot of Like

698
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: I said, man, the game has changed.

699
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: It's so many veterans that I've just named in so

700
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: many little time that helped me kind of curve my

701
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: career into the right path of being a veteran to

702
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: these young guys that you know, I kind of pray

703
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: for these guys in today's game because they're just figuring

704
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: things out on the fly. So you can't get mad

705
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: at anything that's going on. You can't get mad at

706
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: the decisions they're making. With females finances anything, because they

707
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: don't have those veterans to kind of like let them know,

708
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: Hey man, look hey look she'll out now close to

709
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: those a little bit, young fella, you know what I mean?

710
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you know, I know.

711
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: I know her.

712
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You know, I mean, you

713
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: got it for real serious? So you know these guys

714
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: are you know, you gotta be patient with these young

715
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: guys because they're learning on the fly and they don't

716
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: have the veterans to be able to kind of put

717
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: them down on the knowledge of what they need to

718
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: know in order to be who society wants them to be.

719
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

720
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, when they hand you that trophy, how you feel

721
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: because this is the national stage everybody the mama is

722
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: looking at. How was it when you have forgot the

723
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: trophy and you know they said you win? You wanted

724
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: the five ever to get a perfect score in the dunk.

725
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: Contest, Yeah, and I was.

726
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: I think I was the youngest to get it to

727
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: get it too. So you never know what kind of

728
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: history you're making when you're doing things. You just you're

729
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 3: just doing it for the love and excitement of the game,

730
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: And I mean I was excited obviously, but I was just.

731
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: In my head. I was like, what were doing tonight?

732
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: Like I was just trying to figure out what was

733
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: doing tonight because it was like I had all Star games.

734
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: You know.

735
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: It was like after the Dunk Contest, it was like.

736
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Last the whole weekend after that.

737
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: Tell me this, though, what's your take on?

738
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 4: Like you know, you came in seventeen year old young boy,

739
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 4: a seventeen eighteen not knowing nothing to get it in

740
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 4: a dunk contest.

741
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: Don't care about this that you win, But like, what's

742
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: your take on?

743
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 4: Like our younger superstars, the guys not participating in the

744
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 4: Dunk contest, bro, Like what do you what do you think?

745
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 2: Like it's to me it's like they're just too cool man.

746
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 3: Like I said, man, there's no veterans to let them know.

747
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: Hey man, you been too cool. You know what I'm saying,

748
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: dummy down your coolness?

749
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: Man.

750
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: We like they don't understand it right now because they

751
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: have their own selfish thoughts, you know what I'm saying.

752
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: So some players need to be told.

753
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: Hey man, look you need to just do this because

754
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: it's gonna be really cool to look back at when

755
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: you get older, you're gonna be thankful to yourself that

756
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: you did this, you know what I mean. So it's

757
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 3: like it's like, come on, man, Jordan was in the

758
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: Dunk Contest. That's like the greatest of all time. Kobe

759
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: was in it, you know what I mean. He's a

760
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: guys that we're talking about is who's the best player?

761
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: They naming these guys. But you gotta understand, too, a

762
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: lot of these guys got so Lebron too, and Lebron

763
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: never did it, so he kind of like, you know,

764
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: he might have you know, it might be the era

765
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: of guys that are having him as the goal. You know,

766
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: he did it, so I don't have to do it,

767
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I know if it's you know,

768
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: copying your your gold, I don't know, you know what

769
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: I mean.

770
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: Because our era, we thought it was dope to get

771
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: in the Dune context.

772
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: It was you had hot, like what you're doing, You

773
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: got bounced like you want to see that?

774
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah fast, Yeah you came in. Y'all was losing. Tell

775
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: us about how the city changed when y'all got Joe Johnson,

776
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: y'all kind of formed y'all core group and I started,

777
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: y y'all started winning. You know what I'm saying, y'all

778
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: start winning, And how the city changed, and y'all are

779
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: every year playoff team.

780
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, well.

781
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: It changed when we got our Warford that year, the

782
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: year we drafted for that's the first year we made

783
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: it to the playoffs.

784
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: You started tire turning when we did get Joe.

785
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: But when we got our I think that you know,

786
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: it kind of like submitted us as like, okay, we're

787
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: we're going in in a better direction, you know. I mean,

788
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: I was a great teammate. He's a great winner. When

789
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: we tied all those names together, Marvin Williams, me, Joe Johnson,

790
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: Olho for Mike Bibby, Jamal Crawford, when we tied those

791
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: getting those names together before we got you know, young

792
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: guys like Jeff Tige and all the rest of those guys.

793
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: We was kind of the staple for what was to

794
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: come with Atlanta because you know, me growing up, I

795
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: didn't want to go to the Hawks games.

796
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: We were like historically bad.

797
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: So it was it was like it was something that

798
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 3: that I can hang my hat on, and.

799
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, we was wanting to turn the city up.

800
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: Is that they got the city back on.

801
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: Speak about Al horf of how proud are you to

802
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: just see how his career you're kind of paying out

803
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: and him winning this championship, man.

804
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: And I'm thankful for him. Man, I'm I'm so proud

805
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: and happy for him. I mean, you would think that,

806
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: you know, I was still in the league because the

807
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 3: things to see that's that's a good veteran for that team.

808
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: And I think that he probably was in that locker

809
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 3: room doing a great job and keeping those guys connected

810
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: and keeping those guys locked in on one on the

811
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: same goal because it's a lot of it's a lot

812
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: of media outlets that are trying to tear that team

813
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: apart for some reason.

814
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: But I think Al is doing a.

815
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: Great job up there, and he did a great job

816
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: with us. He's a winner for his career. I think

817
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: he's the first ballot Hall of Famer. So I think

818
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: he can play another five years if you wanted to.

819
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: With with the way he's.

820
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: Refined his game, With the way he refined his game, Yeah,

821
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 3: I think he can play another five years if he

822
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: wanted to. So it's a guy who I'm still in

823
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: contact with. I still talk to him I'm still talking

824
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: to Joe and Jeff t Is. These are guys, you know,

825
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: we built relationships. They It's going to last uch a

826
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: long time, you know.

827
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: It's just crazy.

828
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: Joe Johnson and my daughter are friends. They go to the

829
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: same elementary school together. They've been friendstance like the second

830
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: third grade. So it's it's like you never know what

831
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 3: kind of relationships you're building for yourself and for your kids,

832
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: you know.

833
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: So it's it's funny, you know.

834
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 4: You see, I can't get rid of this big, big,

835
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: ugly boy.

836
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know, you know I got to deal

837
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: with him all the time.

838
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 4: Let me let me let me ask you this though,

839
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 4: Like you you talked about how you when you got there,

840
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 4: y'all winning thirteen games, and you know, traditionally growing up

841
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 4: you wasn't really going to the A games, Like, so

842
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: how much pride that you're taken when y'all had it

843
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: like he like D said, when y'all got it to

844
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: the peak where it's cracking. I mean we played trying

845
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: to playoff the whole sitney on fire, Like did you

846
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: ever take like how those nights like with this during

847
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 4: the game, after the game, you go out of whatever you.

848
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: Like, bro, we got the whole city turned up.

849
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: You see, like all of y'all, you know, the community

850
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: out there, from t I's to Jesus to just everybody

851
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 4: in the crowd. And it's the thing to do. Now,

852
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: Like what type of what type of feelings that give you?

853
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 4: You know, being from Atlanta, coming from it and knowing

854
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: what you know about it problem.

855
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: It felt like everything. You know what I'm saying, because

856
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: you know I was, you know, my rookie year. I was,

857
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: you know, saying to myself, I didn't want to be

858
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: a part of I didn't want to be the joke

859
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: of the sport, like you know three with Braves you

860
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: got the focus and you got the Hawks. I didn't

861
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: want to be. I didn't want to be the laughingstock

862
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: of the sports town. Being able to kind of like

863
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: lock in, I think, you know, Billy Knight had a vision,

864
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: you know, drafting a lot of guys that were the

865
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: similar sizes and us being able to change and like

866
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: we were one of the first teams that switched everything,

867
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 3: took everybody out of the sets and switch pick and rolls,

868
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 3: switching pin downs and everything. So he did a great

869
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: job at having that vision seeing seeing ahead of time

870
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: and being able to see that, you know, this was

871
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: the future of the NBA and us being able to

872
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 3: win those games and had those playoff runs. It meant

873
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: everything to me because I'm from here and you know,

874
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: being able to, you know, have something to brag about

875
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: and be be a part of it.

876
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of like surreal.

877
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Let's speak about one of the onhe y'all playoff series

878
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: that I love to watch and it was a great

879
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: series to me, was when y'all played against the Celtics,

880
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: the Big Three. Just tell us about that series and

881
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: how y'all went to war with each other, playing against

882
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: guys that you didn't watched for so many years and

883
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: they formed a Big three and to make it a

884
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: great series.

885
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: What people don't know about this series was they was

886
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: being very disrespectful during that series. Yeah, they was going

887
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: out the night before the games. You know what I'm saying.

888
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: You heard about them, You heard about.

889
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: I heard about I heard I heard creeks. Man, you

890
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I was like, hold on, man,

891
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: they got us messed up. You know what I mean,

892
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: you got us messed up.

893
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: Ain't nowhere in the world they finna be doing that

894
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: and think they just finished dog walk Us the next day,

895
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And then you know, dealing

896
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 3: with Paul Pierce and KG alone their trash talk alone,

897
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Ready, Oh man, it got you,

898
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 3: It got you going, you know what I mean. Then

899
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: they was then they put the battery in my pot

900
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: in the back ron though he talking trash. So it's

901
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 3: like it's like, you don't even know that. You an't

902
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: even I ain't know this man with my friend.

903
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: You know me, they ain't messing with you that seriously.

904
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: I ain't messing with me man at all. Man. Look,

905
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: they had no folks turned and ready to go.

906
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just a it was a great experience

907
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: going up to Boston.

908
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Those fans are ridiculous.

909
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: Man. They're great fans for their time. But it was

910
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: that's the type of energy I want to feel though from.

911
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: A visiting crowd though.

912
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like, yeah there and yeah

913
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: they their feelings and all they said this say.

914
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: It to me. You know what I'm saying. I want

915
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: I want to hear.

916
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 3: I want to see how Yeah, I want because I'm

917
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: about to make you mad. You know what I'm saying. So,

918
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: So those are the type of things that motivated me

919
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: and you know, and my teammates. So playing against KG,

920
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 3: a guy that's hard to guard on the block, can't

921
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: block a shot, playing against you know, basically for Fort Balahalla,

922
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 3: First Batle, Hall of Famers and Rondo, Ray Allen, Kevin

923
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: Garnett and Paul Pierce Man, I mean, it was it

924
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: was a battle, but it was It's something that I

925
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 3: can't wait to tell my grandkids when they when they

926
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 3: asked me questions.

927
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that you would be one of

928
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 1: the best shot blockers in the league when you got

929
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: to the league, like you you're twenty two years old,

930
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: you're the youngest player ever to record five hundred blocks.

931
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that you you would be one

932
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: of the best shot blocks in the league.

933
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: Not at all, Man, I was just I was just

934
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: happy to get there.

935
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: You know, you never know as a kid when you

936
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: when we were kids, like we just knew that the

937
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: NBA was where all the great players played, that we

938
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: wanted to play with all the great players played.

939
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: We didn't know that, we didn't know the.

940
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: Benefits that it gave our families and us, you know,

941
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, we just wanted to play with the

942
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: best players, and like today, these guys know, Okay, I'm

943
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: trying to go for the for the money on you

944
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

945
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: These guys really are locked. They really know. You know

946
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

947
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: Who is one of the guys shot you block that

948
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: you remember that sticks out the most of you. You

949
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: had a bunch of blocks you can school recorded five

950
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: hundred in one season, so over your career. I know,

951
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: it's crazy.

952
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: Gotta go, y'all. Mean, man, y'all, I mean.

953
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: And guys like I used to like I used to

954
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: like blocking d White, he ain't like.

955
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 4: He's he's getting.

956
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: He's getting his feelings about that because I block him.

957
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: I say something to get up under the scheme.

958
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds like you. When I be busting his ass,

959
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: he be mad because I was out there posting his

960
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: little ass up. You know, mouse in the house man

961
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: were talking about josh My Badue. You ain't never made

962
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: a defensive team.

963
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 2: I made one.

964
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 3: You made I got I got defensive player runner up

965
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: behind the White, and then I made second team.

966
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't know against second team? Yeah, yeah,

967
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 2: I should have got first.

968
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, sometimes they get them awards kind of twisted

969
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: in some of the guys that be good defenders, like

970
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: me and Q. We interviewed Kenyan Martin and we couldn't

971
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: believe that he never made a defense all defensive team.

972
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: That's not one. Yeah, he was one of he was, he.

973
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: Was he was a one of the best defenders.

974
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know once, I mean, it's like they're

975
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: making people not respect the award man, like coming like

976
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 3: who's doing the votes?

977
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So it's like, no, no

978
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: disrespect to rule. To go Bart, but he shouldn't have won.

979
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: This year, Like come on, man, this man this, I

980
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: don't care how long he played or what this man

981
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: and he got you only got half of his blocks,

982
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

983
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: And then he's like, what are the criterias? Like I'm

984
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: with you.

985
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 4: The gold post is moving because they made it about

986
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 4: the defense of the Minnesota Chunk Wills having the number

987
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 4: one defense, So like, is this the number one defensive team?

988
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: Was the best defensive player? Like what we're doing here? Man?

989
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: It's like are we are we? And are we are we?

990
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 3: Predicating this off of isolation defense or off a team defense.

991
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because I think it should

992
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 3: be based off of if a guy is not getting

993
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: scored on on isolations, you need to that needs to

994
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: be the defensive player of the year if he leads

995
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: the league and percentages on isolations like nobody scoring on him.

996
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: Regardless of who the player is, that's who needs to

997
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: be considered. It ain't about It shouldn't be about rebounds.

998
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be about nothing else but locking putting somebody

999
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: in the box.

1000
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1001
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: Just like I ain't gonna stand lie Like you asked

1002
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: me about the dunk contest. I think people stopped doing

1003
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: it after they snubbed Aaron Gordon in two years.

1004
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. He should at least got He

1005
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: should at least made.

1006
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: One of them.

1007
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: He should least want one of them. I'm telling you, man,

1008
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 3: like come on like things like that. Man, They is

1009
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: like they're turning people off. Like, don't turn people off, man.

1010
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1011
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: Do you think in some of these awards or even

1012
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, you think that guys are trying

1013
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: to patter in their stats if they put a criteria

1014
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: out there.

1015
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, because I mean, but like even even

1016
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, what are the criterias. It's guys

1017
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: that average eight points a game that in the Hall

1018
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 3: of Fame. Yeah, it's guys that average nine points a game.

1019
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 3: They're in the Hall of Fame. So what are the criterias? Yeah,

1020
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 3: like I'm trying to I don't know.

1021
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: I just you know, I got I just you know,

1022
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: I got questions.

1023
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: You know I don't Yeah, well they.

1024
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: Forgetting it, but I'm just trying to figure out how.

1025
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, question right here. I know, me and me and

1026
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: you always we always say this, and you know, we're

1027
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: not trying to take nothing away from the guys who'd

1028
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: have made the top seventy five. But your guy, Dwight

1029
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: Howard didn't make that list, and we all feel like

1030
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard supposed to be top seventy five or what

1031
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: he what he did and what he accumulated, even though

1032
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: he didn't win the championship, but he went to the championship.

1033
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: He was Hall of Famers, didn't win championship, Yeah he was.

1034
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: Maybe they maybe they want him to stay out the

1035
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: internet or something. I don't know, Maybe they want him

1036
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 3: stay up I don't know, man, I don't know many

1037
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1038
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: I just don't know. I don't know.

1039
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: But Dwhite, how was definitely supposed to be. Yeah, it's crazy, right, Yeah,

1040
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: that's crazy to see.

1041
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: How did you feel when you finally like, now you're

1042
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: about to finally leave at Yeah, you're going to Detroit

1043
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 4: go join the Pistons. How was that like when you like,

1044
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 4: you've been in the league a long time, you knew

1045
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: what you knew for a long time, and this is

1046
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 4: about to be your first time going somewhere different.

1047
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: How was that super nervous?

1048
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: I was nervous, definitely nervous, but I was excited to

1049
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: kind of see what what I was about to experience.

1050
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 3: So it was the coldest winner and that it was

1051
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 3: like the seventies. I was like, I never were drawn.

1052
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 3: I've never driven to snow. You know, they shut they

1053
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: shut the town down for like an inchry snow in Atlanta. Man,

1054
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 3: they it's stuff powered up to the I'm talking about

1055
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: powered up, like on the side of the road.

1056
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: I'm calling in for work, Like, man, I got to

1057
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: this practice still on.

1058
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 3: They're like, hell, yeah, bring the gym like ship, somebody

1059
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: got to pick me up then because on.

1060
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: Your way to watch the Black Guy.

1061
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got familiar with it, you know what I mean,

1062
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: I got familiar.

1063
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's real, man. So Detroit was a great place.

1064
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: It's a place once again, it's a rough place to

1065
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: deal with when you're not winning. But if they have

1066
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: a winning team, you know, it's it's better. You know what,

1067
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: real fans they got. They got real fans, man, So

1068
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: you know, all that losing and all that stuff, they

1069
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: ain't they're not really with that. So you know, I

1070
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: can't wait till they get that kind of get that

1071
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: turned around to Detroit because they deserve a winning they.

1072
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: Deserve young pieces they're trying to build.

1073
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I seen it. I see I see what they're doing.

1074
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: I see what they're doing. So I'm hoping that they

1075
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 3: get it together. So for the fans, because the fans

1076
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: deserve it. It's been a drought. They need they need,

1077
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 3: they need it.

1078
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: You get waved by the Pistons, but Houston pick you up.

1079
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: Houston pick you up. And not only do they pick

1080
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: you up, your boy, the whitest in that that jump. Yes,

1081
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: you deserve and you know this is a playoff team.

1082
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: James harden As we know the James Harden he's on

1083
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: that team. It's it's a better situation for you. Your

1084
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: first game you come off the bench score twenty one.

1085
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: It was like you fit right in.

1086
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: With that tame.

1087
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: How was that year? And then y'all go to the

1088
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: playoffs and y'all get y'all be two teams.

1089
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the playoff we went to the went to

1090
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals.

1091
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: And what what people don't understand is when I got

1092
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: way from the Detroit Joe Dumars was my was the

1093
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: gym that I got signed with.

1094
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: He had got to let go and then they let

1095
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: more they left.

1096
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: They let go more Cheeks when I first got there,

1097
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 3: they let go on him like halfway through the season.

1098
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 3: So when they signed Stam van Gundy, they gave Stam

1099
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: van Gunny like everything like they gave him. He was

1100
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: like the president GM and the coach. So I knew,

1101
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: you know, like what people don't understand about the business.

1102
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: If you don't, if you're not a person's guy, they're

1103
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: gonna get.

1104
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: You up out of there.

1105
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: So he ended up firing like everybody in the front

1106
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: office and all kinds of people. So I knew like

1107
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: he was finna start messing with the team next. So

1108
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: that's just that's just like the name of the game.

1109
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: So he was like trying to get outrageous trades for

1110
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: me instead of just doing the right thing.

1111
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: He was like trying to get Lebron James and all

1112
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 2: that stuff. You know what I mean. I'm like, man,

1113
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: just just get me if you if you don't want me,

1114
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: just you know, just do the But you know, like

1115
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: I said, guy has a plan for everything.

1116
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: It worked out right, got to Houston and and that

1117
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: that was probably like the the most fun time I

1118
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: ever had in my career. And being able to be

1119
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: myself and and be a part of an organization and

1120
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: once again a city that that's that they have like

1121
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 3: diehard fans and being a part of that and being

1122
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: a part of that experience and making it to the

1123
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: Western Conference Finals with that team. It was I love

1124
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: Houston man to this day.

1125
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.

1126
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: That age town by Yes, sir, how impressive, Like people

1127
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 4: talk about you know what I'm saying all the time,

1128
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: that's that stretch and that run that that Harden went on.

1129
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 4: Like how impressive was that To just be privy to

1130
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 4: be watching somebody go that crazy putting up those type

1131
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 4: of numbers on a consistent basis, just running them joints out,

1132
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 4: Like how crazy you know how we get when we

1133
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 4: get to sit and be on a team and what like,

1134
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 4: we get a different perspective, Like how how crazy was

1135
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 4: that for you to be on that team and you

1136
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 4: just watching this man just go crazy night after night.

1137
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: I think that year he got snubbed for m v P,

1138
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 3: but he should have been m v P that year.

1139
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: It was because people didn't understand. We didn't. We didn't.

1140
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: They didn't have the wife for pretty much half the season.

1141
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 3: I came in on the trade. You know what I'm saying.

1142
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 3: We was what the third pick in the Western Conference,

1143
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: which was a which which is always a tough a

1144
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: tough conference to be able to get any anywhere one

1145
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: through eight, and us being able to make it to

1146
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: the Western Conference finals.

1147
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: I think I think he got snubbed m v P.

1148
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: But being able just to be courtside and watching his

1149
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 3: display of scoring and his ability to make his teammates

1150
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: better was it was amazing to be a part of

1151
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: and amazing to watch whenever I was on the bench,

1152
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: for sure.

1153
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: And tell us about the not against the math, but

1154
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: the playoff win against the Clippers. You know, yeah, a

1155
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: lot of teams, Yeah, a lot of people thought the

1156
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: Clippers supposed to beat y'all.

1157
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: Y'all down. One just wanted to just bring that up

1158
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: like that. You wanted to just visiting now.

1159
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: You know, you know the Clippers of my squad. But

1160
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta I gotta speak about my man

1161
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: j Smooth hitting them big time threes in the game.

1162
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: Man Like, just telling about that series y'all going down

1163
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden something clicked when y'all

1164
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: turned to the round and got out of Man.

1165
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 3: I think I gotta I gotta commem ind my teammates,

1166
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: especially Jason Terry.

1167
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: He had a lot of lead.

1168
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 3: He was like forty forty years old, like the old head,

1169
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: like gay like I was a veteran, but he was.

1170
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: The old head.

1171
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: Like once again, once again, you know, you paid homage

1172
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 3: to guys that were older than you in the game.

1173
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't care how much money you

1174
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: feel like you made.

1175
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 3: If it's if it's a guy that played more years

1176
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 3: than you, you sit down and you gain knowledge from

1177
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: that guy because you like, once again, he's been there

1178
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: longer than you.

1179
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: You never know what he's experienced, So.

1180
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: Him being able to keep the locker room together, so

1181
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 3: positive of us finding out kind of strategies to work

1182
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 3: with and within ourselves in order to be successful, you know,

1183
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 3: listening to the coach, but also understanding what our game

1184
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: plans and what we needed to do in order to

1185
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: get over the hump as well. So A Corey Brewer,

1186
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: Trevor Breeza Man, Terrence Jones, Demo Minor Units, all those guys.

1187
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: Those guys were.

1188
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 3: Perfect for us being down three to one, and you know,

1189
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: I wouldn't I wouldn't ask for a better I mean

1190
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: for a different group of guys. I mean, those guys

1191
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 3: we answered the bell man, We challenged each other when

1192
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 3: we were down, and we made history.

1193
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1194
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: Do you feel like y'all having to climb back out

1195
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: that three to one hole y'all kind of ran out

1196
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: of gas in the Western Conference finals?

1197
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah.

1198
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: I Mean it was moments where in the games I

1199
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: was trying to find my second win and it never came.

1200
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find it. I'm like, you know eventually,

1201
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 3: but it's just like it was on my test. I'm like, dang, okay,

1202
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm I'm on my body on fumes right now.

1203
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: So you know, you never you never know how.

1204
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: To take care of your body and what it takes

1205
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: to to get over that hump if you never been there,

1206
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it was just like, man,

1207
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: so you feel like to the Western Conference Finals out

1208
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 3: there and keep going after that.

1209
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: I know. It's like.

1210
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 3: It has everything to do with heart, everything and determination.

1211
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: What did y'all see in the Clippers that that y'all

1212
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we're FeelA beat them. Something changed. That

1213
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: wasn't the same team that we seen won three games

1214
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: the first.

1215
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: And they was Disney. We knew there was some Disney characters.

1216
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: Was you know? It was more bt mm, you know

1217
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1218
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: I feel I feel If you don't know that, I

1219
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: feel you. Anybody feel I.

1220
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: Feel you feel you feel me?

1221
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: I feel you?

1222
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: Man.

1223
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just knew that we had some dollars in

1224
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: the locker room. They got some too, but we just

1225
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: knew all serious, all jokes aside. We knew we had

1226
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: some dogs in there, and we knew that nobody was quitters. Man,

1227
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 3: we didn't have no quitters in there.

1228
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, I know I'm gonna get a bit outside

1229
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 4: of you on this one, because you know, I know

1230
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 4: you was a little bit now you know, you know

1231
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 4: you come from home beginnings and everything like that.

1232
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: This ain't no question about what you did for mom

1233
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 2: or pops. I know this already nice house, will take

1234
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: care of whips all that they good?

1235
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 4: What the young jas move Atl's finest when he got

1236
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 4: that bag? What did you go do that? You now,

1237
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 4: the veteran J. Smooth could look back like, oh damn food,

1238
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: But like in that moment, in that time, this was everything.

1239
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 4: What did you see in that bag? On that you

1240
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 4: look back like dumbers, But like in that moment, you

1241
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 4: and your partners, it wasn't nothing better in the world

1242
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 4: than what just happened.

1243
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: Man.

1244
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: Probably uh I had a bought of estl on free wheels.

1245
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: They stop when you keep going, man, they just don't

1246
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: stop going.

1247
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: What was what was it?

1248
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: What the twenty four twenty six sixes?

1249
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 2: Man?

1250
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: It was all about the thin tired, you know what?

1251
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 3: They so thin and so dope, but they're gonna stay

1252
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: flat on your time.

1253
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1254
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 3: Look, I'm down there, look acting like I'm du why

1255
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: downtown all the potholes?

1256
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: Man? What time I got pulled on you tell what

1257
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: you're doing, swerve and I said, certain doing it.

1258
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry.

1259
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: We all want a nickname, man, you all want a

1260
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: nickname in the game. And you know you got a

1261
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: dope nickname, Jay Smooth. When the first time you heard

1262
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: Jay Smooth and you accepted this like, oh yeah, no,

1263
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: that's me, call me Ja Smooth.

1264
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: Uh well, my best friend Courtney George gave me that

1265
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 3: nickname in middle school.

1266
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: You know, you see the doll, you know, he would

1267
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 2: see the dogs.

1268
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: Like, you know, we just named it. We just naming

1269
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: the names, and he gave me the name. And I'm like, okay,

1270
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So you know it, don't

1271
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: you don't see it? Don't stick with you.

1272
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: Today they start calling it, they start calling you. And

1273
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: then once I heard it on the TV, I'm like, okay, yeah,

1274
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: that's me. Then you know you heard.

1275
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: The other NBA guys be like, what else Smooth James?

1276
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

1277
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: I love it.

1278
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you know what I'm saying. That dope man,

1279
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1280
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 4: Tell me this, man. I know you got your young kids.

1281
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 4: They all in the youth sports what what made you?

1282
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 4: You know, you got the fifth grade team, you got

1283
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 4: the smooth Celties. I see it's a little old to

1284
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 4: the atl somethings, but putting your own twist starty.

1285
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: So how you like that, man?

1286
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 4: How you like coaching and getting into the to the

1287
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 4: youth sports and how's all that going for you?

1288
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: Man? I love it. I mean.

1289
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: I got a I got a fifth grade now sixth

1290
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: grade team. They're sixth grade now. They their top five

1291
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: team in the country. I had a girl on my team. Yeah,

1292
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 3: I had a girl on my team to last year.

1293
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 3: I called it the First Lady, Aubrey Bush Chat Nooga, Tennessee.

1294
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 3: A girl you're gonna hear about for a long time.

1295
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: She's gonna change. She's gonna change women's basketball, I promise you,

1296
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: she said. She stayed locked in. And then I got

1297
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: a lot of I got a lot of talented kids.

1298
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, what got me into it was

1299
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 3: I think, you know, just my kids being falling in

1300
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 3: love with sports, and then you know me just saying,

1301
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 3: you know, well here I am. You know, I might

1302
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 3: as well give off the information that was passed on

1303
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 3: to meet to these to these kids, because no disrespect

1304
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 3: to these other coaches, but you know, you know, they

1305
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Speaker 3: haven't seen and done what I've done and seen and

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Speaker 3: they haven't been around. It's the type of knowledge I've

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: been around when it comes to these different coaches.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I mean, it's a blessing. I have fun.

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Speaker 3: That makes me younger if it makes me feel young

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Speaker 3: again being around these kids, being around a lingo, having

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Speaker 3: a tenth grade son to our coach too, So it's

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Speaker 3: just amazing. It's it's a blessing to kind of see it,

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Speaker 3: see yourself in a different form.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Nah, I salute you, bro, because like you said, you

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Speaker 4: know a lot of people have programs, do this and that,

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Speaker 4: but like to actually coach and to give your time,

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Speaker 4: Like that's the biggest thing you could do, is like

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Speaker 4: you being there, being present. That's to me, that's better

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Speaker 4: than you know, money and all of the other stuff

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Speaker 4: that a lot of people can do.

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Speaker 2: But like to actually give yourself to it, that's that's dope.

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Speaker 2: That's big. And like you know what I'm saying, you're

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Speaker 2: giving your time. You can't get that back.

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Speaker 4: So salute to you for pointing your kids like that

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Speaker 4: and giving them a place where they gonna learn things

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Speaker 4: the right way and have a safe space.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's what's up, bro for real. Thanks man,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Start bench trade. You gotta start one. You gotta bench one.

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Speaker 1: You gotta trade one. Paul Pirice t mac cormelo, Who

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Speaker 1: do you start? Who do you been? You trade all

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Speaker 1: small forwards? You had to go out all of them too.

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Speaker 2: So I'm the first between.

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Speaker 3: Mellow, Matt Paul get traded.

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Speaker 2: That's a hell of a list, though, man, you just

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Speaker 2: threw it. Hold on, let me see, I better start

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Speaker 2: Mellow at the bitch Matt trade to trade Paul.

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Speaker 1: Alright, So you played for a few teams in your career. Uh,

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Speaker 1: out of all the teammates, you don't played within the

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Speaker 1: n b A. If you had to build an ultimate

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Speaker 1: five with four other players and you, who would be

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Speaker 1: your ultimate five?

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Speaker 2: Tner wise or not? Just all your time, no matter

1345
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: when you play with him, they all they prime.

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Speaker 3: They all Mike Baby at the point, Uh, Joe at

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Speaker 3: the two.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, ain't gonna put James at the point.

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Speaker 2: Hard.

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Speaker 3: Oh damn, I forgot about you know what. Let me

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Speaker 3: back that up. Let me back that up. Let me

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Speaker 3: back that up. I'm gonna go you said in that

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Speaker 3: prime right Mike at the one. I'm gonna go, James

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Speaker 3: at the two. Okay, I'm gonna go Joe at the three.

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Speaker 3: And you said me, I got I'm putting in me

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Speaker 3: and Al Horford.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna put the white at that center.

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Speaker 2: The white had that back injury, he was, but the white.

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Speaker 2: I want my I want the white. I take the white.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw me. Can I not

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Speaker 2: put me in it?

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Speaker 1: No, you gotta be in it. You gotta be in

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Speaker 1: you gotta be ultimate five. So you go, Mike, James, Harden,

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Speaker 1: Joe Johnson, you and Dawhighte Howard. Yep, that's a nice

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: that's a nice that's it. That's a nice file right

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Speaker 1: there now, Yes it is. That's a nice fire right there.

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Speaker 2: Man, Bro, we appreciate you pulling up. Man. You know

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Speaker 2: this is a long time coming. Man.

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Speaker 4: You know, we like, like Black said, we got we

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Speaker 4: got so much love and respect your game.

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Speaker 2: And you know he been talking about you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know straight out of high school.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know you knows himself.

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Speaker 2: We locked in in a different way. So that's cool.

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Speaker 2: I ain't got to be a high school connection, but bro,

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Speaker 2: you know it's love.

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Speaker 4: Definitely appreciate you pulling up man at l's finest in

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Speaker 4: the building, Jay Smooth, Josh.

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Speaker 2: Smith, thank you. Appreciated feelings all right.

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