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Speaker 1: being a fan of me. But also, chances are you're

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Speaker 1: a friend rule I want to share today that I

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Speaker 1: think is important, sharing people's contact information without asking them

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Speaker 1: for permission. Why are we doing that? Maybe we don't anymore.

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Speaker 1: I feel like phone numbers, emails, and maybe I am

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Speaker 1: contact you should ask them. Every once in a while,

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Speaker 1: someone will be like, can I have so and So's number?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, let me just ask so and

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Speaker 1: so if that's okay that I share their phone number.

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Speaker 1: And then they'll say yes or maybe no. Usually it's yes,

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Speaker 1: protect them. I want to protect their contact information, so

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily share. So why don't we just take

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Speaker 1: a beat pause when someone asks next time and go,

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Speaker 1: Maybe they have a different email they want to give

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Speaker 1: you Some people have like six, seven, eight, nine to

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Speaker 1: ten email addresses, and that's how they compartmentalize. Some people

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Speaker 1: are me and maybe this is all really just a

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Speaker 1: personal anecdote after all, But I have a podcast. I

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Speaker 1: a really good one. I'm so so excited. Josh Segatta

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Speaker 1: That was just a teaser in which I revealed completely

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Speaker 1: who the next guest is. Also, the titles on wherever

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Speaker 1: so I shouldn't be so hard on myself. Anyway, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for being here. Listen to this conversation. I should read

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Speaker 1: your intro deal because if I forget to do this.

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Speaker 2: I'm always nervous before you, before I hear any intro,

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Speaker 2: because I wonder what intro you have. I wonder you

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Speaker 1: I've had people write their own intro.

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Speaker 2: That's what you think about it? That intro I met,

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Speaker 2: I didn't have one like you.

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Speaker 1: Listen, there's still time if they want to take a

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Speaker 1: beat while I read this one to come up with

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Speaker 1: you a different one that's allowed apparently now. My next

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Speaker 1: guest is an actor who is known for his starring

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Speaker 1: roles in Scream Six, Abbot, Elementary, The Other Two Arrow,

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Speaker 1: and now in the brand new show Best Medicine on Fox.

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Speaker 1: It's Josh Segata. Is that what I said?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Of course you killed absolutely Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm so happy you're here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I'm very happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of yours, right, appreciate you for

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Speaker 2: having me in and getting a chat and getting to

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Speaker 2: talk to a new friend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We're actually family now, you see,

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Speaker 1: because in the first season of this podcast, I was like,

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Speaker 1: we're damn near blood. I just want you to know. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I've been thinking about this because you very

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Speaker 1: You're a diligent student, I'm your.

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Speaker 2: Newest fan with the podcast. I'm a fan of yours

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Speaker 2: as an actress, but now I'm a news fan of

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Speaker 2: So when I was so when I was in college,

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Speaker 1: At the gym to make sure of the perfect smoothies.

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Speaker 2: It's like those see now you know I am a student.

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Speaker 2: I listen to them when you're talking about gift cards. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: then it's like a present a year later. Yes, if

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Speaker 1: It's the best. So I have a gift card. My

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Speaker 1: director of My Woman show shout out to Carmen Angelica,

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Speaker 1: Love how Carmen thought this is what I mean that meaningful,

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Speaker 1: But I can't find the card. I used it once

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Speaker 2: Time you go there, like this should be a freeze.

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Speaker 1: Every single time. Right now, As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: I feel love avoided the place because I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: somehow I misplaced. But Josh, enough about me and my

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Speaker 1: the time out to come. I would like to give

432
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Speaker 1: you something. My hope is that I entertain you for

433
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Speaker 1: at least sixty seconds. I'm like, something I made, something

434
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Speaker 1: I do resonate you say your dad would bring you up,

435
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: by the way, is that from where? Where did you

436
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 1: grow up?

437
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 2: Orlando?

438
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 1: You grew up in Orlando, Florida boy, Florida boy. Okay,

439
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm a Puerto.

440
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 2: Rican kid from Orlando.

441
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: Okay.

442
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: My parents graduated from pharmacy school in Puerto Rico. They

443
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: menton college and they moved to Florida after the job fair.

444
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 2: They were offering a couple extra books if you could

445
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 2: speak English. So my dad was born in the Bronx

446
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 2: and my mom wasn't speaking English at the time, so

447
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 2: they moved to Florida, had me over there, and yeah,

448
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 2: I was raised on rice.

449
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: And beans, rice and beans in Florida. Do you have siblings?

450
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 2: Got two younger siblings, my brother Danny, he's out in

451
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: Texas and my sister Becky's out in Jersey.

452
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: Shout out to that.

453
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: Danny right now.

454
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's dope. You're and they're the oldest. Then did

455
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: that feel like pressure for you in any way?

456
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: Ooh? I now, looking back, maybe pressure just to feel

457
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 2: like I was a good kid parents like the oldest. Yeah,

458
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 2: like you want to be like a good son. So

459
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 2: I had that type of pressure, but I didn't know

460
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 2: it was pressure just now later on in my life.

461
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: Looking back, Okay, are you're the oldest of young I'm

462
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 1: the baby? Can't you tell I have the baby? I

463
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: got the baby vibe? And that's like, is it twofold?

464
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: It's like people are like, oh, I can tell you're

465
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: the baby, and they're like trying to insult me, and

466
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, what can I say? Everybody took care of me.

467
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: I was everybody's baby, But that's it. Did you feel

468
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: like like and when I think of the oldest, I'm

469
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Speaker 1: like it. Oftentimes I feel like my siblings would say

470
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: as much. I have friends who are the oldest. They

471
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: felt sort of like surrogate parents to their younger siblings.

472
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, I'm six years older than my brother and

473
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm nine years older than my sister. So I would

474
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Speaker 2: pick them up from school. I would take them to school.

475
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Speaker 2: You know. Once I got my license, my parents were

476
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: working a bunch. They're working, you know, forty fifty sixty

477
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: hours in the pharmacy, so just became something I was

478
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: an extension of them, for sure.

479
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

480
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: My sister always cracks a joke because she was nine

481
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: and when I left for college. Yeah, so she's like,

482
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Speaker 2: I don't even know you bro.

483
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Speaker 1: Well, that's how I was with my siblings. I'm like,

484
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: my oldest brother's eight years older than I am, and

485
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: I was like he and my sister was six and

486
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: a half, and they actually graduated high school at the

487
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: same time, and I'm like the youngest. But there was

488
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: some only child vibes too it as well, because they

489
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: were so much older, and I'm like, they went away

490
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: to college when I was seven, or they went to

491
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: college when I was seven. I was like, we're having

492
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: just different experiences here. It's very that that gap.

493
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Speaker 2: When I met my wife, she would always laugh because

494
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: her younger brother they were both adults. But when we

495
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: started dating, my sister was still a teenager m hm.

496
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: She hadn't been around teenage energy in many years. So

497
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: we'd be, you know, on our fourth fifth day and

498
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: I'd get a call from my sister about some drama

499
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: with like her geology. It was always very fun.

500
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Speaker 1: Early on, amazing your dad bringing you up from Florida

501
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: to seat place? Was it because he was into the arts?

502
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: Are because he had a sense you were into the arts.

503
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: He had a sense I was into the arts. So

504
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 2: the first time I came to New York was in

505
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: eighth grade our middle school. There's a teacher there, Missus Sherman.

506
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: Shout out to Missus Sherman. She for years before I

507
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: was even in the school, she would do a New

508
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: York trip for anybody that would accomplish a set of goals. So, yay,

509
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: certain things. So and then it was a big deal

510
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 2: going on this New York trip. So we took the train,

511
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: which took am track up from Orlando, which is most

512
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: of the fun was on the train.

513
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fun. How long is that right by

514
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Speaker 1: the way.

515
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Speaker 2: I don't remember a long time where we slept on

516
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Speaker 2: the train, so I remember the kids like sleeping up

517
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: in the luggage racks, and we had an old car

518
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: to ourselves. And funnily enough, we stayed. I didn't things

519
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 2: that I put together later on when I moved to

520
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: New York. My favorite pizza place is in Hell's Kitchen,

521
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: and it's a little hole in the wall spot, but

522
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: it's because we stayed at this hotel on tenth Avenue

523
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: and fiftieth Street over there, and before the trip was over,

524
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: we hadn't had any New York pizza, and my dad

525
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: went and got a slice for us, got a big

526
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: old pie brought it to the boys later on. That's

527
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 2: saying Pizza Place was the one I would go to

528
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: and be like, I don't know why this pizza is

529
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: so amazing, but this is New York pizza to me.

530
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: And I moved into that apartment and it was like

531
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: months later. I remember always having deja vu walking around,

532
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: walking around, and then it just hit me. I was like,

533
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: this is the hotel called Buddy was like, what was

534
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: that hotel? Put all the pieces together. So we came

535
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: up in eighth grade and then my it was either

536
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: junior or senior year. To be honest, I can't remember,

537
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: but it was something on the lines where I knew

538
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: then that I wanted to go to college up here.

539
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: Okay.

540
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: To me, it's just you know, I graduated high school

541
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: in four so I feel like it was around then

542
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: that remember when the Olsen twins applied to NYU.

543
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: Yes, it was.

544
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: Like a big deal because that was like you started

545
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: hearing about dream schools.

546
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: Uh huh. Yeah.

547
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: So I was in Thespians in high school. You know Thespians.

548
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: I know what a Thespian is, but I don't know

549
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: what thespians it's it is a club, So it's a

550
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: club you can join.

551
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: But in Florida, Thespian competition is a really big deal.

552
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: So it's nationwide, but I think Florida has like the

553
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: biggest one.

554
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: I have everything everything in Florida.

555
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: Many.

556
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we.

557
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: Had a thespian competition. There was a big deal, and

558
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: like everybody cared very deeply about it. But it was

559
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: just like anything else, like a like a course competition.

560
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: You would go and you would get judged superior, excellent,

561
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: such and such, such and such or whatever. Yeah, you know,

562
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: and and that's where the dream school conversation started. So

563
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: when we would go to thespian competition, you'd go to state,

564
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: and at State they would have scholarship auditions. So that

565
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: was the first time I ever heard about NCSA and

566
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: Carnegie Mellon and all these schools you know that kids

567
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: were fine to go to. But to me, it was

568
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: always in New York or nowhere. Like I was either going

569
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: to go to school in Florida because we had bright

570
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: futures down there, and you know, they have really good

571
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: programs down there. But I don't know, there's just something

572
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: about seeing New York and my dad being from the Bronx,

573
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: and you know, I love that snasy kid, you know,

574
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: like being in you know, being in New York was

575
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: the dream. So Dad brought me up here to come

576
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: look at it, and uh and it was you know,

577
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: a few day trips. We went and saw Perfect Crime.

578
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 2: You ever seen that little show over there. It's like

579
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: the longest running show off Broadway. He has been going

580
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: for like forty years now. I think it's the same. Well,

581
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: it's it's a cool little show. Swallow black Box. We

582
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: saw that, and then we saw Take Me Out, we

583
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: saw Wicked, and and he just knew, he knew I

584
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: had this, you know. And you know, thank you to

585
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: my pop and thank you to my mom because they

586
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: have never in my life even made an eye roll

587
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: or like a moment of making me feel like pursuing

588
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: my dream wasn't something I could do, you know, like

589
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: like like not even you sure, not a like maybe

590
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: something else, not a It was just always like acting, Okay, acting,

591
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna do acting, okay, And I want to go

592
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: to the school in New York and and and they've

593
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: got a good acting program. Okay. Cool. And they went

594
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: and they took out a really big loan to send

595
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: me to college. I didn't even know who Sally made was.

596
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: Oh that girl, I just cussed her out.

597
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: On Okay, So that's exactly.

598
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: I still don't know who she is, but I don't whoever.

599
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time, she did help fund it's

600
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: complicated relationship with Sally.

601
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 2: Complicated relationship with Sally. So you know, it's it's right.

602
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: It's funny how we get as we get older, you

603
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: start realizing all these smaller things that were happening when

604
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: we were younger, and so, yeah, shout out to dad

605
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: for for coming up with me on that trip, and

606
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: shout out to them for just maybe a little naivete

607
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: on their part in our family.

608
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's like, oh yeah, whatever, that sounds good.

609
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and the rest was history.

610
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: That's incredible. That's really beautiful. To have their support from

611
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: Jump and to just have it be unequivocal and unwavering.

612
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: That makes so much of a difference that you didn't

613
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: have any doubt from them, because I feel like this

614
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: career will cause you to doubt yourself anyway, and so

615
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: we don't need anyone around us being like it's not

616
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: going to happen for you. It's not possible. But they

617
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: were also pharmacist. So this is, like you said, there's

618
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: a bit of naivete required. There's a naivete required on

619
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: your part to think you can make it a delusion,

620
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: which is great, but you do need that, right, Like

621
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: numbers are the odds are not in your favor, but

622
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: just having them come from a different background in terms

623
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: of profession, did at any point it become difficult for

624
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: your dad to offer you advice or is there any

625
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: sort of advice that he did give you career wise

626
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: that was applicable for you? Hmmm.

627
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: It's funny because I would go to my dad for

628
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: certain pieces of advice, and I'd go to.

629
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: My mom for certain pieces, okad My mom was always

630
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: really good about, like really visceral emotions, like Mom, I'm

631
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: mad about this. Mom, I'm heartbroken about this.

632
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: Mom, this feels weird. How do I navigate this? Whereas

633
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: my dad I would go to for like stories, Dad,

634
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: tell me about when you were this age, tell me

635
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: how you made this jump. But I also think now

636
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: you got me thinking about this. Please, Because growing up

637
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: my dad was real quiet. He talks more now because

638
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: he's retired.

639
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm not talking at work, educate me on stuff.

640
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: My dad was real quiet, but like a really strong presence,

641
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: really loving, really warm. Like my memories of my dad

642
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: are like on the couch and him like rubbing my head.

643
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: And you don't realize how important that is until you're

644
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: grown and you're wondering why it means so much that

645
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: someone's like rubbing your shoulder, your head.

646
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: Yes, is that one of your love languages? Physical? Is

647
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: it the number one?

648
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: Probably? Probably? Probably, just like yeah, one hundred percent, one

649
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: hundred percent. I'm a mix of that in words of affirmation,

650
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: But even words sometimes can't get lost because I'm too

651
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: caught up in my own brain. So sometimes I just

652
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: need my wife had like that, tell me and we

653
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: could keep on going and I'll wake up tomorrow in

654
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: a different mood. But my mom, my mom has always

655
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: been the most beautiful character, Like she'll make people just

656
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: laugh and crack up, and she ain't trying to just

657
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: telling stories. But with that comes the idea that she

658
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: was always with us every step of the way, you know,

659
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: like and ride or die is my mom, you know,

660
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: Like I'll tell you even now, she's so funny because

661
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: like she'll get caught up and like she was like, no,

662
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: because if they didn't support my son before, but I

663
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: don't want them to support him now.

664
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

665
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, nobody was mean to me, Like everybody

666
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: supported me.

667
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: My whole life is nobody was.

668
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: Everything was pretty good, you know, like to her, you

669
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: don't remember when you said you're going to school, I'm right,

670
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: You're right, Okay, And now I got my own boys.

671
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: I know what she means.

672
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: You know them their whole life. Yes, and you peep

673
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: things that they might not peep. That's it.

674
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: So mom, she's been protecting us.

675
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

676
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: And and they have a really you know, my parents

677
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: have been together now forty something years and they've got

678
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: a really special thing. And that was always something that

679
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: I was watching and admiring and now in my in

680
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: my life, trying to emulate.

681
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: Beautiful. I love you loved love. You saw love you

682
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: love love you wanted you wanted that love, So then

683
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: you and your How did you meet?

684
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: We met at a birthday party at UH at my

685
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: boy Jermaine's birthday.

686
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jermaine shouting everybody else's.

687
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: Let's go yeah, yeah, shout to my boy. We met

688
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: at a bar in Hell's Kitchen.

689
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: Hell's Kitchen is very meet.

690
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: I was there for a lot of years. It's very poor.

691
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: A lot of New York.

692
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: Memberies where I lived when I first moved here, kind

693
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: of a little too close to port authority.

694
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: I was see. I was a little further away. I

695
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: was on tenth over there.

696
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: I was at thirty ninth and between eighth and ninth right.

697
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, by the cake boss.

698
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, I was.

699
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: I was in it and snippers.

700
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: Uh huh, yes, I know all the I'm forgetting the

701
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: name of the Italian spot right by me. But Hell's Kitchen.

702
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: It was my whole New York when I got it.

703
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: But Germanica Hell's Kitchen walked in, I met Brace.

704
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: He introduced us. Her name is Brace, like a bracelet.

705
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful name.

706
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: It is. It was a grandmother's name. Ok gave it

707
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: to Kepta in the family. And then now it's my

708
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: youngest son. His name is Bo. He's bow Brace Cigare.

709
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: That as a good name.

710
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's our guy.

711
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: That's shout out to him as well.

712
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: Okay, shout out to baby both.

713
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: Okay, by the way, if you shout it out both,

714
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. If you shout it up. But you

715
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: gotta shout out the other kids.

716
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, will let's shut the boy Hank and with

717
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: my oldest Hank is my middle and Bow is the baby.

718
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, the cigare brother Okay. Beautiful.

719
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: So we met at a birthday party. Uh. She in

720
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: her words, I'll tell it as if she was here.

721
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: She had dated eighty versions of me before. She was

722
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 2: not trying to date me again.

723
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: What were you? What is this version called?

724
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: She would say, she's dated eighty actor boys before. And

725
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: I was twenty four and she was thirty when we

726
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: were man, that's my puma.

727
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

728
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 2: So so so we didn't know each other's age.

729
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: She got to mold you so exactly. What's the key, ladies?

730
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: I got to mold them.

731
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 2: What are you talking about with al? About the bones?

732
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: Oh that's yeah, the bone. The bones.

733
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: Everything else was a mess. Yeah, the bones. The bones there, okay?

734
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: And we Jermaine actually introduced us, say hey, that's my

735
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: friend Josh, and she was like uh huh and kept

736
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: hanging out. Yeah, she was about to leave. And I

737
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: do remember seeing it like the lights and the angels,

738
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: and I remember seeing her the very first time but

739
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: she was about to leave, and we hadn't talked the

740
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: whole night, and I was there for about an hour.

741
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: But she's about to leave.

742
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: So you were peeping the whole time, the whole time,

743
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: and so you see she's about to leave here like

744
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: shoot shot.

745
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 2: She's OK because she was having fun, so I didn't

746
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: want to come and starting so but she is leaving.

747
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: So now I'm like, man, I got to talk to her.

748
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: So I go up to her and I say, hey,

749
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: where are you going? And she was the master. She

750
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: was a dancer in her career, actress, but she was

751
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: also the master of the odd job as we all are.

752
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she has forty different guys make ends me

753
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: and she's like, yeah, I'm working tomorrow for she was

754
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: she was registering people for like a mattress convention. She

755
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: was working at a mattress company.

756
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: I've done strange things, okay, very expensive, nice match okay, yes,

757
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: that's I've had very object exactly mattress.

758
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: I have to register people for this mattress convention. And

759
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: I said, you work in the mattress industry. She's like, no,

760
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: I have to. I was like, so you can get

761
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: a nice man.

762
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: Did you think that was okay. Yeah, I was trying

763
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: to You're like, okay, matt bed bed I was like.

764
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, so you work with

765
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: the mattresses, you get a nice She's like, no, I

766
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: don't work it. I was like, yeah, but you can't

767
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: leave because what if we're supposed to get married one day?

768
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Josh went right for I just got a chair.

769
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so she swears, and I've had people tell

770
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: me like, there's no way that was the first time

771
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: you said it to somebody. Yeah, but I really feel

772
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: like it was. There was I don't know what my

773
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: confidence was that day. Maybe there was just like a

774
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: level of like I'm just going to go to ten

775
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: and she scoffed or one of those or she's like

776
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 2: what say that to everybody? And I was like no,

777
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: but you know, we ain't even talked.

778
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

779
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: We chatted for five minutes and I was basically busting

780
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: the balls, being like I just think you're leaving and

781
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: you don't want to talk to me, and she's like, no,

782
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: did I really have to get up at like five

783
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: in the morning. I was like, all right, well, I'm

784
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: going to give you my number and you text me

785
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: when you wake up, because I don't believe you got

786
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: to wake up at five. She was like, okay, dude,

787
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: next morning, five am, bing bing good morning. Oh wow,

788
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: I said, good morning to you.

789
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

790
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 2: This was on a Tuesday, and I remember it because

791
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: I said I was an unemployed actor at the time. Right,

792
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: let's hang out tonight, And she said, no, I'm busy.

793
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: I said, well, let's hang.

794
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: Up to also woke up at five am. I'm like

795
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: just trying to hang out.

796
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: But I was all right, great, so let's go. So

797
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: let's hang out tomorrow. She said, I'm also busy, like

798
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 2: you're busy, okay, And she said I'm free Saturday, Saturday day.

799
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, you're free Saturday day the night

800
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: so I knew. I was like, all right, she's testing.

801
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

802
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: I was teaching spin at the time. Okay, gold Gym

803
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: on fifty fourth and eight. Wow, I was one of

804
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: my eye jobs.

805
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: All right.

806
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: So once again, like if Bracelet was sitting right here,

807
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: she would tell you that. So she's like, all right,

808
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: I love spin. I'll come meet to your spin class

809
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 2: and then we'll go out. After I said great, Wow,

810
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 2: she was thinking I'm gonna test this man his spin class,

811
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: like if he sucks, yeah, if you play music I

812
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: don't like. Yeah, she was testing me. Yeah, I knew

813
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: my spin class was dope.

814
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: Okay, you had good music? Did your classes sell out

815
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: or wow spot?

816
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: Okay? So I had to give up my bike wow Spin.

817
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: That day she arrives, She's like, there's ten people waiting

818
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: outside fighting for bikes. I walk in and Josh is

819
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: up there. He puts me right at the front with

820
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: my best friend Patrick. My boys carved out of stone

821
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: six three beautiful Okay. I put him right in front.

822
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: I put her right in front, and the class.

823
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: Went very apparently it did because.

824
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: And we can eat at Southern Hospitality after. That's where

825
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: she found out I was twenty four and she went

826
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: what And I said, yeah, how old are you? She's like,

827
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm thirty.

828
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: I was like you're thirty yeah, like yeah.

829
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: The people next to us for giggling definitely, seeing like

830
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: all these are in their first day. Yeah, and I

831
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: this was Saturday day, remember, So I was like, hey,

832
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: we can go to the bar next door. She gave

833
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: me and watched a little bit of a football game

834
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: with me. She kept talking about how she had plans

835
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: that night with friends I came to find out these

836
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: were not plans with friends.

837
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: It was another day the guy's bed for a few

838
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

839
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: Oh, she hadn't been dating another guy for a couple

840
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: of weeks, but her words, she wasn't quite sure where

841
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: that was so she needed to see that through, which

842
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: I respect one hundred percent. At the time, I didn't know. Yeah,

843
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: So I took her to the train, kissed her in

844
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: front of the bill a bong okay, second shout out,

845
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: shout out, okay.

846
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: Okay, that's another thanks.

847
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: Uh. We split ways. Oh and before we left that

848
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: night on Saturday, I said, yea, hang out tomorrow. She's like,

849
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm busy. I was like, you're not busy. It's Sunday. Like,

850
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: I know, you're not busy. She's like yeah. But and

851
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: then kind to find out, you know, she was dating

852
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: finance guys that would you know, maybe text once a

853
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: week or you know, they could fly around places, they

854
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 2: could take a really nice expensive places. I couldn't do anything.

855
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: I was texting every day I was available. That's by

856
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: the way, y'all don't understand just how much of a

857
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: difference that made My heart was open, heart open good bones.

858
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: I showed up.

859
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: You gotta give them a chance. So that was it.

860
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: So funnily enough, one of her best friends, uh, Tiffany

861
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: said to me, She's like, I never brace has never

862
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: had a guy be as loving towards her like you.

863
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: Wow.

864
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: And and but I'll be also honest, I don't like

865
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: this term love bombing, okay, okay, because some times it

866
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: carries a negative connotations. Most times it does. But I

867
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: will say that that was my style. Like I was

868
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 2: in love on a Monday and probably out of love

869
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: on like a Saturday, Like I really felt hard that

870
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: Monday Saturday.

871
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: But five what is that? Six days of love?

872
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: It?

873
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: No, that's not love.

874
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: You're so real every time?

875
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: Really did you then feel heartbreak? Though?

876
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: Every time heartbreak like I do. Feel like it was

877
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: my way of like just trying to navigate, Like okay,

878
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't even thought through, to be honest, because there

879
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: were many times where it ended in complete catastrophe where

880
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: I was loving and they're like, bro, you're a lot.

881
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: You're right, I'm a lot. My bad, And then I

882
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: was left a care picking up the pieces. So that

883
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: definitely happened many times. But there was something about and

884
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: This is what I'll say to any of my boys

885
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: or anybody wants to talk about it, is that there

886
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: is something funny because like for Brace, she would tell

887
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: you that she was the opposite, but she was so

888
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: used to not texting or like a date every two weeks,

889
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: that maybe she needed a little bit of change of scenery.

890
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: And for someone like me, I needed her being older

891
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: than I was, forgiving some shortcomings that I had and

892
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: also building up this twenty four year old insecure little boy.

893
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: You know, like you know the little things that we

894
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: have to go through, Like it's hard to explain to somebody,

895
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: and that's not in our business. What having a bad

896
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: audition feels like and why you're like mentally, just.

897
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: The rest of the day, day is over. We need

898
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: to get into a new day. Once you have a

899
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: bad audition, so disoriented.

900
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: Like you can put up, you can put on whatever

901
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: mask you want in front of somebody knew, and you

902
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: could be hanging out for six days and then on

903
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: that six they have a bad audition, all of a

904
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: sudden they see a part of you that they're like, oh,

905
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: I didn't know this guy was in there, But that

906
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: part is me too. And for her, for Brace, I'll

907
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: forever remember. You know, I don't remember specific instances, but

908
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: I do remember like early on, I never met anybody

909
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: like her. You know, that's my one of one, my

910
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: one of zero, because for her, it was that perfect

911
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: cocktail where you know it was met her of twenty

912
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: four right. So I was like starting to test a

913
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: little bit. I wasn't getting it. I was starting to

914
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: get on planes. I was right there. But that's hard

915
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: to explain to somebody that doesn't our business. And she

916
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: knew our business intimately, and she was leaving the business. Okay,

917
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: so she wanted nothing to do with it. Yeah, you

918
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: know that dancer life is so hard on the biole,

919
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: being a pro athlete. So she was transitioning and here

920
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: I come and she's telling me like, no, dude, you're

921
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: killing it. Yes, oh but I didn't get this. I

922
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: didn't know, dude, you're killing it. So going back to

923
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: my parents, having that safety net is somebody that like

924
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: really believes in you. And like I was thinking about

925
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: that too, like who do I want to think? Like,

926
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: you know, it's like I can really think like that

927
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: handful of people. No, it's bigger than a handful. I

928
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: would say in your lifetime, really think about it, like

929
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: maybe like twenty people that like really believed in you,

930
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: that like and that it's just that faith in you

931
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: is such a skill that then we have to teach

932
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: ourselves like faith like belief delusion. How do we continuously

933
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: do it? Man? It helped so much to have Brace,

934
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: help so much to have my parents, to have my

935
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: high school drama teacher, Missus Mueller, to have Missus Sherman

936
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: in eighth grade take all these kids up to New

937
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: York just to show them what New York City is,

938
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: you know, expand there that's it. Let's get on the

939
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: train and let's go. You know. So three kids later, three.

940
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: Kids, but we skipped we skipped something. Okay, okay, So

941
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: how did you know Brace was the one?

942
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: It was?

943
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: It the belief in you and the understanding It sounds

944
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: like obviously so much of it was so right, And

945
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: you guys sound so aligned from the way you describe

946
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: it and even the way you I mean, just I

947
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: love hearing you describe meeting Race and how she impacted

948
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: you at a pivotal time in your life as you

949
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: were pursuing this career. But what moment do you feel

950
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: like you were like, this person is the one for me?

951
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: Was there a moment where you felt that?

952
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: There wasn't a moment, but I will say that it

953
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: was like the good thing about the way that I am,

954
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: but the way I dated was that I do feel

955
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: like it was one of those things where if if

956
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: something doesn't feel right to me, it's hard for me

957
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: to fake it. So it goes with I'm one of

958
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: those cats that I trust first until like until you

959
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: break my trust, got it and then you'll probably never

960
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: get it back ever again.

961
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: But I respect that right.

962
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: So it's just one of and I've definitely broken that rule.

963
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: You can get it back, but that's that's my My

964
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: core is thatine and it's like protective in a way.

965
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: So when it came to finding the one right you're

966
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: it's you're constantly opening your heart up to people, but

967
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: the second you feel like it's getting toyed with or

968
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel right, you shut off. And with brace,

969
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 2: I don't know, just never shut off. Like like even

970
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: my boys, like you know, in their words, it was like, man,

971
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: if you're with her for six months, we'll throw you

972
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: a party. We got six and we didn't really even

973
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: talk about it. Well, if you get to a year,

974
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: we'll throw you a yeah. And we got to the year.

975
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: And now we've been together, married eleven twelve and been

976
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: together fourteen fifteen. And but it was but I want

977
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: to give a real answer, it was like, it was

978
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: like there were times. You know, there are times where

979
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: I don't mind being the center of attention, okay, but

980
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: there are also times where I do like to hide.

981
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: And I would find that there were certain relationships that

982
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: I was in where if I decided to be center

983
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: of attention that day, I could be punished for it,

984
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: or if I decided to hide that day, I could

985
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: be punished for it. Well, not even punished, but you

986
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

987
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. It's sure, of course you'll

988
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: pay for this at some point.

989
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: With Brace, I never had any of those like we

990
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 2: just every type of scenario would come in contact with.

991
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: I just always loved the grace in which she moved around.

992
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: I love the way she treated people. I love the

993
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: way that she handles herself. You know that, my Angelo,

994
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 2: that my Angelou quote like, happiness is liking yourself, liking

995
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: what you do, and liking the way you go about it.

996
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't. I don't know

997
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: that one. I thought you were gonna say. People remember

998
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: and I forget what you do, I forget what you say,

999
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: how you made them feel. So but repeat this, my angel.

1000
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: Happiness is liking yourself, liking what you do, and liking

1001
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: the way you go about it.

1002
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: M that's good. Yeah.

1003
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: So I would then throw that into relationships, Like, Dude,

1004
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: I just liked her. I liked what she did, and

1005
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: I like the way she went about it. Wow, you know,

1006
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: like she was just everything to me. She is, you know,

1007
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: and I will tell you this. As relationships grow, of course,

1008
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: we're both changing all the time, and you know, they're

1009
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: talking about you're changing as you grow and you're growing

1010
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: together and you're growing, and dude, the mom that she is,

1011
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm just so impressed by and like I'm just so

1012
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: like lucky that I have her in my life and

1013
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: lucky that she's letting me be a part of her

1014
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: life because we still are two adults in this thing

1015
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 2: and we're just trying to make it, you know. So

1016
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: now we've got our little boys, and I would like

1017
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: to think that I had the like, the foresight to

1018
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 2: be like, she's going to be a good mom. She's

1019
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 2: going to be a good partner. But all it was

1020
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: was the smaller moments, those little things, how to treating

1021
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: each other in public. If if I was emotional, she

1022
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: understood it. If I was mad about something that somebody

1023
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: else might tell me is foolish, she understood it. There

1024
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: were times where I needed to be built up. She

1025
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: built me up. There were times I need to be

1026
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: brought down. She'd bring me down. And those those are

1027
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: things you can't force somebody into. That's that magic thing

1028
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 2: that just happens. And that's that's how I think I knew.

1029
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: What a gift, truly, what a gift?

1030
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm lucky. I am lucky.

1031
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you sound and seem to me so emotionally attuned,

1032
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: and I and that's not so surprising that an actor

1033
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: might be emotionally attuned. But which parent of yours? Where

1034
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: did you do you feel? I mean, you describe both

1035
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: your parents, but which parent of yours do you think

1036
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: was more reflective of that? It sounds like maybe your mom,

1037
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm yeah, it's just such a.

1038
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: Probably my mom my mom was, because my mom was

1039
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: much I'm a lot like my mom My mom My

1040
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 2: mom could fly to handle rightfully. So she just worked

1041
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: fourteen hours at the pharmacy. She comes home and we

1042
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 2: got like leftover milk in the bowl from our cereal,

1043
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: like just a giant mess. But then I remember her

1044
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: never ever letting us go to bed without like coming

1045
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: in and kissing us on the head and telling us

1046
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: how that she was sorry, or like sorry for yelling yeah,

1047
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: or like telling us how much she loved us. So

1048
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: she was always very She's just much more emotional. But

1049
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: my dad has this really he's really empathetic, both of

1050
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: them are, but but there's something about the quietness of

1051
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 2: my dad's empathy where it was always really reassuring and

1052
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: like he just you know, like he was a pharmacist,

1053
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: work in a full time pharmacy job, but then he

1054
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: also was part of like organizations where he would go

1055
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: speak and like educating the community in Orlando about like

1056
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: where they can get meds at and how they can

1057
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: get healthcare. And and then at church, he was our

1058
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: church accountant for just like a full on another career.

1059
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: And I remember, I guess not too long ago, I

1060
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: was like, but then you don't even have accounting in

1061
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: your background. He's like, yeah, but I know math, and

1062
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: like a lot of people at church, didn't have anybody

1063
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: to help them with it. So my dad would just

1064
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: be doing people's taxes for free. Wow, like thirty people's

1065
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 2: taxes from art, that's.

1066
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: Not a lot of time.

1067
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: So I remember one time I was a kid, I

1068
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: was four or five ish, it was before we moved

1069
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: out of my first house. There were some kids on

1070
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: the street I was playing with and we're running around,

1071
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 2: runing around, and I remember one of the younger kids,

1072
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: me and my buddy Matt shut the door.

1073
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 4: On him and Nick was crying outside the door, and

1074
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: my dad very calmly, never raised his voice at us,

1075
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 4: walked over and was like hey, looked me right in

1076
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 4: the eyes, and he was like, you never ever leave

1077
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 4: any of your friends behind. And that's just it's this

1078
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 4: this printed memory.

1079
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: That I have of him that, yeah, that's him in

1080
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 2: a nutshell, you know, Like he never said too much,

1081
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: but he was always there, always there, and my mom

1082
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 2: was always there just bringing us up, lifting us up.

1083
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: They just had a really cool little balance with it.

1084
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even the notion that she would apologize, that

1085
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: she would apologize for yelling me like I had a

1086
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: long day, I feel like a lot of adults don't

1087
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: feel they need to do that to their children, is apologize.

1088
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: I was like, this is my kingdom. Are you living

1089
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: in it?

1090
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: Right?

1091
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: Are you like that with your kids? I'm so fascinated

1092
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: you embrace you are also you reflect I am.

1093
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: I think I think so much about my parents with

1094
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: my own boys. So my old this is nine, my

1095
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 2: middle guy is six, and my youngest is three, and

1096
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: I find myself apologizing sometimes, you know, but like I

1097
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: feel like it's funny you said, like my mom was

1098
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: ahead of the curve, you know, like talk to us

1099
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: like adults. My mom was never like she would apologize

1100
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: to us. She would explain things to us. She would

1101
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: say why certain things mattered and why we need to

1102
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 2: do this, and not that. It was always conversations with mama.

1103
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: So I find myself thinking a lot about both of

1104
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: them when it comes to my boys, you know, like

1105
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: right now I'm trying to they're fighting a lot, as

1106
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: brothers do. So even just this morning, I said to him,

1107
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I know you guys fight, but

1108
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: you still love each other and it's still best friends, right,

1109
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 2: And my aldy was like, yeah, Dad, come on, my friends.

1110
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: But we're brothers. You're right, You're right. I don't want

1111
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: to take that away from you.

1112
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: I want to make sure the same.

1113
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know the deal here, right. You can fight,

1114
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: you can pick, but in public is each other's backs.

1115
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: For life, unified front, a unified front.

1116
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: So one hundred percent. I try to talk to them

1117
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: like little men and try to be as honest with them,

1118
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: as honest as honest with them as I can, and

1119
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: probably the most probably the most what am I trying

1120
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: to say here, the hardest thing to explain to them

1121
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: is probably the most important to me, which is funnily enough,

1122
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: when I'm having bad days because of our work.

1123
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, because our work's supposed to be just fun.

1124
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: You're just fun and perform I mean, you make people

1125
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: laugh or you make people feel like yeah, yeah, yeah.

1126
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: So it is a funny thing when I'm in a

1127
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: bad mood one day and I'm taking it out of

1128
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: them for no reason, and I find myself sometimes I'm

1129
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: short with them, and later on in the day I

1130
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: will say to them like, hey, sorry, boys, you know,

1131
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: Dada is just sad today because there was a part

1132
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: I wanted and I didn't get it, and my oldest.

1133
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: It was very wise. One day he said to me,

1134
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 2: he's like, Daddy, are you okay today? And the guitar

1135
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: was down. I was like, I'm okay, ba bye.

1136
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: You know.

1137
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 2: I was a little sad, maybe maybe crowd a little bit.

1138
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm okay, by bye. I just really

1139
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: wanted this thing and it didn't go my way. And

1140
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: you know, and he's like an acting thing and I

1141
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, an acting thing. He's like, but Daddy,

1142
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: you're already an actor. And I was like, it's very profound.

1143
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: I'm so sad about this.

1144
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you're right, I am.

1145
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: An actor already. I guess it's your you know.

1146
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1147
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: He could tell he's going really deep with it, and

1148
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: he was just like, bro, you all right, Dad, Yeah,

1149
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: you know, my friends already think you're an actor. You know.

1150
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: I don't think you need to worry that you did it.

1151
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: You did it.

1152
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all alive.

1153
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: It's all It's funny. My mom. Back when I was

1154
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: auditioning for main stage and my friends and I coming

1155
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: up in IMPROVM, We're like, okay, we want to get

1156
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: on the main stage at UCB Theater and get on

1157
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: a herald team. When those auditions came around once a year.

1158
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: One year, some of us made it, some friends did not.

1159
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: And I'm telling my mom back home. I just called her.

1160
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, these two friends are really sad

1161
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: about not making the main stage at UCB Theater. And

1162
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: my mom was like, but you guys don't get paid

1163
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: to do that. I was like, you're right, and I'm

1164
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: reminder that. She was like, you don't get paid though, right,

1165
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: And she like, so tell them they're okay. I'm like, yeah, yeah,

1166
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: it's not. She's like, they're tell them they're okay.

1167
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: Reminders of the things that, yeah, forget yes, yes, and

1168
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: your son in that moment being like, yeah, you're right.

1169
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: He is a wise soul. Dad, you're an actor. We're stranger. Yeah, good,

1170
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: you're not. It's all good. I love that, I love

1171
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: I love that he had the ability to do that.

1172
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1173
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: Now, we were talking about industry stuff right before we started,

1174
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: and I am curious about this firing people. How do

1175
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: you handle it? How is it? How? Yes, how do

1176
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: you handle it? Because sometimes we have to fire people

1177
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: in this industry too.

1178
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: Yes, and it come on, I mean, I haven't had

1179
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: to do it in a long time, so I have

1180
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: had to fire people, oh man. But even thinking about it,

1181
00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: like it sucks, It just sucks because you know, in

1182
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: our in our world, you're you're brought up. We're just

1183
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 2: grinding for so long, and we're taught to say yes

1184
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: to everything, and we're taught that, like the gig is,

1185
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 2: you do anything that comes your way right, and then

1186
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: you get to a place where somebody wants to represent you,

1187
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 2: and you go you want to represent.

1188
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: Goodness finally, and then.

1189
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: Somewhere along the way something happens or changes and for

1190
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: your business, we gotta make the right decisions for us,

1191
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: and we are the head.

1192
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 1: Of our way at the boss, the CEO of.

1193
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: That's what. That's what they say. It doesn't you know,

1194
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not I'm saying this less to you

1195
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: and more to the people that that watch your pod

1196
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,479
Speaker 2: and listen to your pod. It's like, yeah, in our world,

1197
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: they're tell us all the time that we're the boss.

1198
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: But it doesn't feel like that.

1199
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: Doesn't always, No, doesn't, It really doesn't.

1200
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't because you have these people that believe in

1201
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: you and represent you, and they're the ones out there.

1202
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: They are the connection between us and the work. So

1203
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: it's a weird feeling when you're like, man, I don't

1204
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 2: know if that person that is the connector is right

1205
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: for me. So it's tough. It's like any relationship doesn't

1206
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: mean that they're bad or you're bad. It's just oil

1207
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: and water.

1208
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: Just does it make oil and water? And if you

1209
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: had to pick if your oil or water, which one

1210
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: are you saying?

1211
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: I would like to be water.

1212
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm water for sure, So we are kind of saying oil,

1213
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: you are bad. Water is a little superior to oil.

1214
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: If you ask me exactly, Water is consistent.

1215
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: Water is giving us life. I mean, we are made

1216
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: up of mostly water. We need to be consuming more

1217
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: of it every day. I'm saying I'm water, you're oil.

1218
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: I will say that my my entire dream was definitely

1219
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: molded by Entourage because I came up so I would

1220
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: have to look it up, but I'm sure it's the years.

1221
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: I know it is the years while I was in

1222
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 2: college because we would watch on Sunday nights. So like,

1223
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: I really was looking for an E, right, So, and

1224
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: E is specific. That's not every manager in the world.

1225
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: So I had other managers that weren't E, but I

1226
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: needed an E. And what I mean by that is

1227
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: that I was just looking for somebody that was going

1228
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: to be my best friend and also my manager. And

1229
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: I have that now with my guy Andrew. That's my brother.

1230
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: We're going about together. We've been in many battles together

1231
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: and we'll have many more to go. But that's what

1232
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 2: I was looking for. That's also because we're close friends.

1233
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: He's at my wedding, he knows me, intimately, knows my family.

1234
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: So I was chasing that. I was chasing that picture.

1235
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: And you know, I've had amazing managers that just they

1236
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: weren't eight, you know, and they were looking for their

1237
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: thing and I was looking for mine. And it sucks.

1238
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: When it sucks, I remember it like it was yesterday,

1239
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: and I got a lot of love for them. And

1240
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: and I will say though too, like relationships, but maybe

1241
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: with less heartbreak. It's like a chapter in your life,

1242
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: you know. And like I needed my managers that I

1243
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: had before, and you know, like I won't bore anybody

1244
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: with the details, but like I really didn't need them.

1245
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: They introduced me to a lot of people, and they

1246
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: got me a lot of good jobs and a lot

1247
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: of jobs that helped me build and help me learn,

1248
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: and my first couple managers, like, I did not know

1249
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: what type actor I was. I had some terrible auditions,

1250
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: I'd some embarrassing auditions, right, and I was just trying

1251
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: to be whatever this business wanted me to be. And

1252
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: they were with me throughout those years, and so I

1253
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: really am so gracious to them. And then I'll say that, like,

1254
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: how did I know Andrew was the one? He came

1255
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: along and he was the first one to start talking

1256
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: to me, like about stuff that was five ten years ahead.

1257
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 2: And I was never forced to think like that.

1258
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: Like goals, like let's talk long term.

1259
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: Goal talk long He's like, what game are we playing here? Bro? Yeah,

1260
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: He's like, if you want to go play this game,

1261
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm not your guy, right, And I remember him saying

1262
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: that to me. He's like, if you want to play this,

1263
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: we ain't gonna hang it hang out after.

1264
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: Its kind of nice when someone says to you, by

1265
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: the way, I'm ready to walk away right now. Let

1266
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: me tell you why. Just in general, and like someone

1267
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: is so confident and clear and align with themselves, They're like,

1268
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: let me tell you what you're gonna get here, and

1269
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: if this doesn't work for you, you should leave now.

1270
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeahm enticing.

1271
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: It's exactly it. I remember, you know, at the time,

1272
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't working. I was trying to figure out where

1273
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, you know, you know, I've

1274
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: done a couple of little things here and there, and

1275
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: I was like, but I need a job. And he's like, so,

1276
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: go get a job. I was like, yeah, but I mean, like, like,

1277
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: I want like an acting job. He's like, well, you

1278
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: ain't getting an acting job right now, a regular job.

1279
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 2: I was like, oh right, He's like, yeah, go get

1280
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: a job. And I was like, oh, no, one's ever

1281
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: really said that to me like that. I guess I'm

1282
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: going to go get a job.

1283
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I go.

1284
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: Get the job. In six weeks, two months later, I

1285
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: get an active right. But I needed him, yeah, to

1286
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: be like, bro, whatever, who cares is you're thinking you

1287
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 2: ain't that serious?

1288
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: Just go do this.

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01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: And he's very good about that. I can get caught

1290
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: up in the minute shaft stuff. I can get caught

1291
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: up in the how does it feel? And he's very

1292
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: much like, dude, who cares how it feels? This is

1293
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: what's happening, is what we need to do, and this

1294
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: is where we need to be. Yeah, And I really

1295
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: needed that and I needed it from him, from his energy.

1296
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: And that's why we are too.

1297
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: Like it just works. It just works, all right, Josh,

1298
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: it's amazing. All that is cool, But it's time for

1299
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: a segment called that's nice about what about me? Okay, okay, Okay,

1300
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: here's what's going on. You live in Jersey. Now, you

1301
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: left the big city, left it. How do you know

1302
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: when it's time? How do you know when it's time

1303
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: to leave the big cities? Because I'm LA New York,

1304
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm from bottom, But I'm like, how do you know

1305
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: when it's time to go? You know what? That pace

1306
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: or I need more space? Tell me?

1307
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? That for for for us, it was definitely the

1308
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: third kid. Uh. We are flag bearers for raising kids

1309
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: in the city. We loved it. Strap those, strap them on,

1310
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: and let's go.

1311
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: You guys are carrying the stroller down the subway stairs.

1312
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 2: Okay, So that is when I knew. Okay, one kid

1313
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 2: in a stroller easy, m the double stroller a little harder, okay.

1314
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: And when we had the double stroller with the kick

1315
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: pad underneath. Okay, I'm talking, every restaurant looks at you

1316
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: funny because now you're walking into restaurants, and you're like, hey,

1317
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 2: can we put this by the by the hostess stand.

1318
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: We ain't fitting escalated by the hostess stand.

1319
01:04:54,640 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: Brod a stroller stands, it's a hostess stand exactly.

1320
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 2: We started feeling the city looking at us a little different.

1321
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: Get out of here.

1322
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, bro, you win one to fall with the

1323
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 2: four of you. Our booths fit four people nicely, but

1324
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: maybe the third. So and with what we do we

1325
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: had bo bracelet had bo and I left two weeks

1326
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: later to Atlanta, and I went down to Atlanta for

1327
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: four months. So she had a three year old, a

1328
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: six year old, a dog, and a newborn in our

1329
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: apartment in Long Island City that we loved and she

1330
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 2: loves being a New York City mom.

1331
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1332
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: She actually was the one having a harder time deciding

1333
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 2: if we're going to go to the birds or not.

1334
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 2: I was ready to rock. And then when I came

1335
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: back after that winter, this was January I left, she

1336
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: looked at me and she said, yeah, we could do this.

1337
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: It's one thing about New York winter. It'll make things

1338
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: very clear for you.

1339
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: By the way, putting in the jacket and the booties

1340
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: on our dog to go out four times day, walking

1341
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: the boys to school every day in the in the

1342
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: frigid wind tunnels our city, those things start to shift

1343
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: a little bit. And and and the other side of

1344
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: it too, is that because even with all that, we

1345
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 2: were still trying to make it work, and we're looking

1346
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: out of place to get and we're like, all right,

1347
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 2: maybe we'll get the four bedroom, which really aren't that

1348
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: there aren't that many. You're just thinking that once again,

1349
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 2: it's not built like that. Year. Then as you do

1350
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 2: get as we go on our journey in life, like

1351
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 2: the tentacles I had connected to the city started to

1352
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: become less and less.

1353
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: Other people moved to, other.

1354
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 2: People moved to And also once we started having our kids' lives,

1355
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: they started to create their own tentacles. So our tentacles

1356
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: became their tentacles. So that changed. It's like, you know, oh,

1357
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 2: I wasn't doing the same thing. I wasn't playing softball

1358
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 2: four nights out of the week anymore by choice because

1359
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't tear anything. But also, yeah, like life changed

1360
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, so it was ao things was like, oh,

1361
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: I guess I I don't I guess I'm not relying

1362
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: on certain things as much anymore. Now, I'm actually seeking

1363
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: something else out for this chapter in my life. Yeah,

1364
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: and uh so for this little chapter that we're in.

1365
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: We found a perfect place for us. And I love carpools,

1366
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 2: and I love my you know, school school dad hangs

1367
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: and going to basketball games. But I will say that

1368
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: we're gonna be out there, We're gonna raise these kids,

1369
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a good time, and we'll probably end

1370
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: up moving back. Got a little spot on the Upper

1371
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: West Side. Two old people, drink coffee at the diner

1372
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: in the morning, go to talkbacks at the YMC on

1373
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: Friday night. I love it, go see a show a week.

1374
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: Yes, you might have kicked us out in New York,

1375
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: but we'll be back exactly. Yeah, I'll come back and

1376
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: see you at the Hostess and then what I'll deal

1377
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: with you then exactly.

1378
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: Okay, remember this and I'll get my mom on you

1379
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 2: and your mom does not remember remember when you throw

1380
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: my Buffy is on?

1381
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, Okay. I love that. That is so clear

1382
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: to me, because honestly, when I do see the parents

1383
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: walking around the city, I'm like, you are the realist.

1384
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: You are the realist in the film. Truly, I'm like

1385
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,799
Speaker 1: with me and my dog. I'm like, this is already

1386
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: a lot. I leave my gloves when he's due for

1387
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: a walk. My dog wants to walk. I have to

1388
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: take him out to pee, of course, right he wants

1389
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: to I'm like, okay, let's get out there. Let's make

1390
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: this quick. You handle your business. We'll be back inside

1391
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: in two minutes. He's like, I'm not tripping, and he's like,

1392
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: I want to smell every mound of snow. I might

1393
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: be here. No I'm not. It's really crazy. It's crazy energy,

1394
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, we need to get back inside.

1395
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,959
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the kids, the dog, the boots, the stroller.

1396
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: I get tired in New York truly, even just like

1397
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: having to put layers on, and today with all my

1398
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: running around taking layers off, I'm like, this is exhaust

1399
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 1: and it's just me anyway, thank you. That is helpful.

1400
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 2: But I will tell you I could never I could

1401
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: never leave this place. It's like, you know, even when

1402
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: we were looking, it was like, oh did we go

1403
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: West Coast? And I love my time in LA Every

1404
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: time I get to work out there, we love it.

1405
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love being where we're at right outside

1406
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: the city I get to come in and hang with you. Yeah,

1407
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: it's I still very this This city is very much

1408
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: a part of me, and it's you know, it's part

1409
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: of where I grew up. You know, I came here

1410
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: at eighteen. So it's it's so the thing we can't

1411
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 2: explain to people that don't know it. There's just about

1412
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: the city that that I love, bringing my boys too

1413
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: and having them interact with and they love. We're getting

1414
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: on the training going. So it was tough to leave.

1415
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: It was tough, but it wasn't a breakup. It was

1416
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: a yall see list See, we're taking a break, taking

1417
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: a little break.

1418
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 1: This is a real break, a healthy break, so I

1419
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: can come back and appreciate you. You can appreciate me.

1420
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 2: That's exactly.

1421
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: It's no problem exactly. You guys are seeing other people

1422
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: right now.

1423
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 2: That's exactly all right.

1424
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: We have to help a listener as well. Okay, so Kevin,

1425
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: we're ready to hear this.

1426
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 5: Hey, hey go and he goes guessed. My name is Zach,

1427
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 5: and my question is how do you go about handling

1428
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 5: all of life's little chores. It feels like they are

1429
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 5: never ending, and every time you get done doing the dishes,

1430
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 5: or you get done doing laundry, or you get done

1431
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 5: going to the CBS. You have to go ahead and

1432
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 5: do it immediately. It's constant maintenance and it's exhausting. And

1433
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 5: I was wondering if you both had any tips and

1434
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 5: or tricks on how you go about maintaining.

1435
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 2: All the little chores in life. Thanks so much, Bye.

1436
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: Gosh, What're you gonna tell them? That was Zach, I

1437
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: have thoughts.

1438
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what are your thoughts?

1439
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: I feel that so deeply. You just heard me complaining

1440
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: about putting coats on multiple jackets on in the winter.

1441
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: I feel that so deeply because I will wash my

1442
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: dishes and be like, ah, satisfied, Finally I cleaned up

1443
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: the kitchen finally, and then it's like, oh shit, but

1444
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: I gotta eat again. Oh I gotta eat again in

1445
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: like two hours. I'll sometimes wait as long as I

1446
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: can to eat again because I'm like, I don't want

1447
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: to create a mess. I'm so satisfied that I finally cleaned.

1448
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: That feels like my headspace has cleared up because it's

1449
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: cleaned the kitchen and now you're telling me I gotta

1450
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: eat again. Who set this up?

1451
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: Like? Who?

1452
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: Set this up. So I was selling a friend who

1453
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: was over recently and I was saying this to her.

1454
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I just washed the dishes, but then

1455
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: I had to eat again. And she was like, I buy,

1456
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: and this is I'm not telling you to do this, sack.

1457
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to do this sack. She was like,

1458
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: I buy, she said, I buy the nice little disposable

1459
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: plates from TJ Max.

1460
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: I love that.

1461
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: She was like, she goes, they're cute, and I use

1462
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: them and I put them in the bus. She's like,

1463
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: I throw it away, and so I'm not mad at it,

1464
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: but it is wasteful if we want to talk about

1465
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: the environment big picture. Same with laundry is damn near, Like,

1466
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: can I turn this underwear inside out?

1467
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: So come up?

1468
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: You're like, you absolutely cant. That's your official stance. The

1469
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: underwear can go with side. Yes, I'm like, we have

1470
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: to because you know what, if you're gonna use a

1471
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: plastic plate, which is waste, while you're gonna throw it away,

1472
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: you can make up work by doing a reverse underwear situation,

1473
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: less water being used.

1474
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: Correct.

1475
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: So it's about ballance.

1476
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: I like that ballance.

1477
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I feel it Zach, I haven't

1478
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: cracked the code, so I don't know what Josh, what

1479
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: we would tell him.

1480
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: I like that. I think it's like being I feel

1481
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 2: like it's striking a balance and like trying to find

1482
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: whatever balance it like, it is true, like how do

1483
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 2: we so I feel like we just have to write,

1484
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: Like all these little things that we have to do,

1485
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: we just have to because if we don't, right then

1486
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 2: it becomes like that thing that's piling on and piling on,

1487
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: it becomes more stressful for us. So we just have to.

1488
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: But how do we then enjoy that? Having two of

1489
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: it all is? I guess the.

1490
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: And not make it. It can feel like such a

1491
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: huge part of life. That's where it's supposed to be.

1492
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 1: Me folding my clothes.

1493
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: I'm happy it is when I'm doing the task and

1494
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm accomplishing them.

1495
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: M okay, Like.

1496
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 2: If I'm in the right frame of mind and I

1497
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: clean a little bit and it feels good after, I'm

1498
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: just happiest. I don't know, that's not advice to Zach.

1499
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about my experience with the little things

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Speaker 2: that I feel like when I have a couple of

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Speaker 2: little things that I needed to get done that day.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not a list person. I'm like a mental

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Speaker 2: list person. I feel like I crossed them all off

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Speaker 2: and they went well. Then I sleep good. You know,

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Speaker 2: So how do we do it? I don't know, Zach

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Speaker 2: me and you have to talk about this more. But

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Speaker 2: where it's balanced, it's like, you know, if it ain't

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Speaker 2: us it's going to do it, who will do it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You then who? If not, you're going to be living

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Speaker 1: in fields. But I like, but also like what you

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Speaker 1: said about crossing things off the list. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's good for me to keep in mind because I

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Speaker 1: have a lot on this mental list. It's actually stressing

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Speaker 1: me out day to day and I'm like, you should

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Speaker 1: really get it out of your head ache and put

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Speaker 1: on a page. But maybe there's like get it, have

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Speaker 1: your mental list or your written list and gamify it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can make a way to find joy in

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Speaker 1: these things is to like gamify it. Because I like

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Speaker 1: what you're saying about joy and it's like cross it off.

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Speaker 1: You cross these three things off that you were meant

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Speaker 1: to do today. How could you maybe.

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Speaker 2: Reward yourself after correct there's.

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Speaker 1: Joy in the crossing things off. There is a satisfaction

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Speaker 1: in that, and then how can you, maybe you say,

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Speaker 1: after I do these five things, I get to do

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Speaker 1: this thing. Yeah myself, Yes, a little trade off.

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Speaker 2: It's all about that. My sister just said it to me.

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Speaker 2: It's all about reframing. So, like, the thing that I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking about right now is shoveling snow. Everyone keeps asking

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Speaker 2: me how it's been to shovel snow, but they're asking

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Speaker 2: me with the tone of it sucks to shovel, right,

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Speaker 2: But I'm so new to shoveling snow that I'm still

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Speaker 2: enjoying the shoveling of it all. Oh well, yeah, so

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Speaker 2: I'm natural in a different frame of mind when I

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Speaker 2: feel myself framing the other way in about five, six,

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Speaker 2: seven years, when I'm gonna hate shoveling the snow, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna try to remember this feeling. Yeah, yeah, Bignobrol, you

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Speaker 2: didn't always feel this way. Remember when you really liked it,

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Speaker 2: when you thought about the core workout that's so good

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Speaker 2: after and you feel like you were helping your family.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try to hold on to that. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's it, Zach. Try to remember the task that you hate.

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Speaker 2: Remember a time in your life when you loved it, Yes,

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Speaker 2: and go back to that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I'm going to just add to that. And

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Speaker 1: if there was not a time when you loved it,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can count some of those tasks as self love. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: taking care of yourself, and that's important. You're setting a

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Speaker 1: standard for yourself. I'm a person who does clean their home,

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Speaker 1: the person who does the dishes. I do my laundry,

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Speaker 1: I call the doctor when I need to call the doctor.

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Speaker 1: I pay these bills. And this is the standard for

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Speaker 1: my life. And I'm this is self love and I

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Speaker 1: want that then reflected back to me and my other relationships.

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Speaker 1: Am I oprah now or what.

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Speaker 2: Just gonna say? I'm very happy with what we came

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Speaker 2: up with.

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Speaker 1: Me too.

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Speaker 2: I was worried that we were gonna give anything. I

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Speaker 2: had nothing to say to him, yes, other than like, man,

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Speaker 2: just do his act.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you, bro, like if

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Speaker 1: you don't do it, it's gonna suck later.

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Speaker 2: But now I feel like we got there.

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Speaker 1: We got it between the two of us. The listeners,

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Speaker 1: all right, take something up on the fly. We are

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Speaker 1: satisfied with our answer, is Zach hard to say? We

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Speaker 1: may never know, but I'm proud of us. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: very proud of us so much. I appreciate you. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for being here because it was delightful. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. This was so fun.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, Okay we had to take a picture.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Bud.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Okay, that was my incredible discussion. I

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Speaker 1: just love Josh, Josh Segata incredible, so grateful for his time,

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Speaker 1: for the heart he brought to that conversation and the

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Speaker 1: fact that we were able to give our listener we

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Speaker 1: deemed good advice. I mean, honestly, it is up to

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Speaker 1: Zach if Zach happens to think the advice is good.

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Speaker 1: But it seems that Josh and I have decided it's

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Speaker 1: a yes. But if you want advice from me and

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