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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale

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Speaker 1: Ally here with Matt Williamson and Matt Melball, Keyper and

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Speaker 1: Todd mcshade. Did an interesting thing, uh today on on

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Speaker 1: ESPN dot com and they're exclusive star here. And they

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Speaker 1: did this last year as well, where they draft forty

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Speaker 1: four players. Are they a team? Are they drafting? They're

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Speaker 1: drafting there, they're drafting against each other, trying to fill

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Speaker 1: out a team. What they're doing is filling out a

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Speaker 1: roster twenty two players for each team. So you'll start

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Speaker 1: getting a starter at every position based on this draft

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Speaker 1: fair enough, so you know you're only yeah, you're only

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Speaker 1: gonna draft. They eat your draft with like one running

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Speaker 1: back each, one quarterback each, things of that nature. So

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Speaker 1: you're getting and of course there's some strategy to that,

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Speaker 1: Like if you and I were to do it and

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Speaker 1: you take Trevor Lawrence first, overall, I could probably wait

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Speaker 1: till the four. Yeah, you could be the quarterback. If

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Speaker 1: you take cow Pits, I'm gonna take friar Mouth last.

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Speaker 1: With running backs and things like that. So it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit cheating. There's not thirty two teams, but such

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Speaker 1: as life. It's almost like doing a fantasy draft. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's cool. I'm curious how it went. Yeah, so, uh.

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Speaker 1: With the first pick, mcshade took Trevor Lawrence from Macshe

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Speaker 1: had the first pick, fair enough, Okay, your SETI que

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Speaker 1: he doesn't need to take another quarterback now. No. With

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Speaker 1: the second pick, Keiper took Kyle Pitts. That's who I

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Speaker 1: would have taken too, because the difference is so much different. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's the obvious one of the first two to me.

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Speaker 1: But with the third pick, then mcshaye took Jamar Chase. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so he's got a nice little that's a nice battery there,

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Speaker 1: or it's the chase for the next fifteen years, you hope.

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Speaker 1: But the receivers are plentiful, right, I assume these guys

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Speaker 1: are gonna take three receivers each. Yeah, it might be

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Speaker 1: just two of the Look here at four. Kiper took

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Speaker 1: Davonte Smith. So he's got Kyle Pitts and Davonte Smith.

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Speaker 1: I guess he wants to make sure he gets one

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Speaker 1: of the top receiver yeah, yeah, because otherwise if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't do that, then ye come now he's getting ridiculous

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Speaker 1: like um. At five, mcshaye took pin as Sewell, understandable.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of tackles, but understandable. I have no

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Speaker 1: qualms with that. It's six. Then Keiper took Jalen Waddle,

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Speaker 1: So he's got Pits, DeVante Smith and Jalen Waddle pretty

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna end up with Fields or Wilson, whoever

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Speaker 1: he wants the beauty of picking second. Okay, that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty good passing game. That's a pretty good passing game.

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Speaker 1: It's seven mcshaye took Michael Parsons. Wow, first offensive player taken.

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Speaker 1: I guess I understand it. I mean he's different than

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Speaker 1: the other linebackers. Yeah. Yeah. Eight Kuiper took Rashawn Slater.

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Speaker 1: I would say, would I would have maybe taken Slater

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Speaker 1: where he took Waddle after Seul went I just want

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Speaker 1: to make sure I get a top guy, but he

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Speaker 1: still did. Nine mcshaye takes Patrick Certain That's what maybe

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Speaker 1: my pick before. So boy, yeah, I mean I think

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Speaker 1: i'd taking Certain over Parsons. It's tough, but you I

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Speaker 1: mean because there's so many. I mean, corners are so valuable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you get you know, you get, you get certained

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Speaker 1: here and who else you're gonna lined up with here?

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Speaker 1: At ten, Kiper takes Elijah Vera Tucker. Curious where he'd go.

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Speaker 1: He has Slater and Vera Tucker. Yeah, he's got two

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Speaker 1: undersized tackles, so were guards, which he's got a flosome

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Speaker 1: guards or short tackle? Right, but this this draft is

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Speaker 1: so deep and tackles. You could take two tackles and

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Speaker 1: played both of those guys at guard and be really

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Speaker 1: athletic a guard. Yeah. I was sitting there thinking we'll

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Speaker 1: just take one more tackle, asked one of them to

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Speaker 1: play tackle the other one's guard. I mean, no offensive

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Speaker 1: line positions off the board though for mel Right. At eleven,

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Speaker 1: mcshae takes Darius Tony. That's way rich, way rich. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't like Tony at I don't think he's the

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Speaker 1: first round player. I think he will be in the

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Speaker 1: first round. I'd rather Bateman, I'd rather have I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have Elijah more Yeah, I mean if the the slot

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Speaker 1: way low on my list. At twelve, mcshat's not gonna

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Speaker 1: like this. Keiper took Jam and Davis. Wow, I mean

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Speaker 1: so Todd had Parsons, Mel got David, and Mel has

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Speaker 1: been mcsha has been a guy who's been on Jam

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Speaker 1: and Davis for he like he's had him up in

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Speaker 1: this Top fifty before anybody else did. In a previous segment,

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Speaker 1: we did our Steelers Top twenty four. I'm wondering more

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Speaker 1: and more. Mel tells you things and Mels were doing

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Speaker 1: this such a long time. Whenever he's that high on someone,

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Speaker 1: At thirteen, mcshaye takes Jeremiah Wilson co Rama. It's pretty

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Speaker 1: good speed in the middle field. A lot of speeds

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Speaker 1: going early. Yeah. If fourteen Kiper takes Quitty Pay the

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Speaker 1: first edge off the book. I think Phillips would be

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Speaker 1: my first edge, but I can respect Pay. It's fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Mcshaye takes J. C. Horn. How about that he got

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Speaker 1: he had certained and Horn. That's pretty good. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: be mad about that one. Trying to jump on Horn

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Speaker 1: over a couple of those picks. Yeah, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: he jumped on Jam and Davis early because he knew

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Speaker 1: that McShay was such a jam and Davis. Guy, I'm

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Speaker 1: not even taking horn over Vera Tucker. Yeah, I think,

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Speaker 1: looking back on it, it's sixteen. Kuiper takes Jalen Phillips.

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Speaker 1: Good so he gets paid and yeah, so maybe his

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Speaker 1: corners don't matter quite as much. I got shut out

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Speaker 1: on the corner. I'll get pass rush. It's seventeen. Mcshade

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Speaker 1: takes Gregory Rousseau. That's another Todd pick that I've frowned

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Speaker 1: think he's very twitchy. At eighteen, Kuiper takes Caleb Farley.

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Speaker 1: You needed a corner, Yeah, that's kind of it could

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Speaker 1: be a steel, it could be a steal. I would

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Speaker 1: take another soon if I were him. At nineteen, mcshaye

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Speaker 1: takes a z's Ollari. I don't love him either. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's a bad player, but he's kind of

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Speaker 1: a one trip pony. It's twenty MILLI don't compare to

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Speaker 1: pay and no they don't. But mcshaye says he's going

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Speaker 1: with a three four. He's going with the hybrid three

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Speaker 1: four four three defense. Uh, it's twenty Mail tips his

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Speaker 1: hand on what he's going to do with those offensive

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Speaker 1: linemen because he takes Christian Derris saw so one of

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Speaker 1: uh it's ony one. Yeah. Mcshaye takes Naja Harris, it's

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Speaker 1: twenty one. He must like him noticeably more than the others. Uh.

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Speaker 1: At twenty two, Kiper takes Travon Morig. That's a pick

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Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense to get you stand

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Speaker 1: alone at your position and a drill like this, they

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Speaker 1: should go pretty So that's the halfway point of the

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Speaker 1: whole procedure here. So if you look at what each

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Speaker 1: in Naja Harris, two wide receivers Jamar Chase and Kadarius Tony. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tony don't love. But he's got a left tackle on

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Speaker 1: Pine so good. He's got his defensive end slash outside

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Speaker 1: he's got certained in J. C. Horne on the back end.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. It's pretty awesome. Yeah, uh, Mel doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback it, but he'll get his pick. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: got Davonte Smith and Jalen Wodell at the receiver position.

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Speaker 1: He's got Kyle Pitts at tight end. He's got his

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Speaker 1: offensive line filled out actually except for the center position.

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Speaker 1: And actually they didn't take a center here. They're not

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Speaker 1: taking a center. Where are they not taking a center?

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Speaker 1: Centers are important. Somebody has to get a slip ball.

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Speaker 1: But he's got so he's got his offensive line, Slater,

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Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker, Christian Derris Saw. Uh. He's got Slater

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Speaker 1: as his left tackle, and dry Saws his right with

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Speaker 1: Vera Tucker's guard. Maybe they're just not live there. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they're I think they're gonna pick centers here, they just yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's got pay and Phillips as his defensive linebackers jam

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Speaker 1: mcshaye takes to Evan Jenkins, Okay, I mean yeah, and

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Speaker 1: put him opposite Penny Sool. That's not so bad. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They are taking centers because at twenty four Kuiper takes

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Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson. Okay, so Vera Tuckers be a guard. We've

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Speaker 1: got two tackles later one of them. Here's one of

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Speaker 1: the problem areas. It's twenty five mcshaite takes Christian Barmore.

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Speaker 1: That's a real problem area. Yeah. I mean, the more

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Speaker 1: you think about the strategy, maybe he should go higher.

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Speaker 1: And I have some doubts about Barmore, but you need to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna line up no defense. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: not taking on double teams. At twenty six, Kiper takes

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Speaker 1: Avan Collins. That makes sense too. The linebackers went pretty high.

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Speaker 1: It's seven mcshade takes Terris Marshall. I would have taken

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Speaker 1: Bateman over both of them. Twenty eight Kuiper takes Richie Grant.

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Speaker 1: Got a safety too, He's got mowering in Grant. He's

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Speaker 1: nine mcshade takes Liam Eikenberg. But he listened as a guard. Really,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a little short armed, but I mean

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Speaker 1: he has two good tackles. I think he probably best

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Speaker 1: out line. Yeah. At thirty Kuiper takes her Shob Bateman.

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Speaker 1: Six receivers already taken. Yeah. Kiper's loaded at receiver loaded.

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Speaker 1: Bateman's is three. Actually it's four. Really yeah. Uh. At

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Speaker 1: thirty one, mcshaye takes Carlos Basham. All right, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't love that. I don't love that either. Kuiper takes

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Speaker 1: At thirty two Greg Newsome, nice, Yeah, that's good value. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: At thirty three, mcshade takes Levi Omwood zurie Que, so

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Speaker 1: he double. He took both defensive tackles over the same

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Speaker 1: You gotta take him. It's thirty four. Kuiper finally takes

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Speaker 1: There's nobody there worth taking because yeah, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess you're right now, you're just filling out your roster.

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Speaker 1: I guess I will take at the tackle one of

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Speaker 1: these times. At thirty five, mcshaite takes Creed Humphrey Nice

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Speaker 1: the top two centers, I think. Yeah. Thirty six Kuiper

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Speaker 1: takes Samuel cause me as him listed as a guard.

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Speaker 1: It's a guard. I would put kicks later in the guard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Boyne Arison caused me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it caused me.

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Speaker 1: Six seven he's not a guard. No, he's not a guard. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: At thirty seven mcshae takes Quinn Miners as yeah as

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Speaker 1: a guard center and the Miners a guard. Thirty eight

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Speaker 1: Kuiper takes Ronnie Perkins. That's little worldly and he took

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Speaker 1: him over, like, oh way, yeah, you know I might.

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Speaker 1: I mean a good player. I mean he's at least

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Speaker 1: gopt production over. Try on, here's where because Mel jumped

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Speaker 1: Cisco but that's the third safety off the boards. A

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Speaker 1: up with somebody there I mean Mel is gonna do

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Speaker 1: reason for me a trade, Yeah, absolutely, But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: thought that the draft thing here was interesting. And the

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Speaker 1: other guy we haven't talked about, Liam Akemberg on twenty

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Speaker 1: nine as a guard as a guard which like him

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Speaker 1: and minors are interesting to me too because that means

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Speaker 1: that those evaluators really like them, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 1: I can't let this guy pass. I'm even gonna play

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Speaker 1: him out of position. Yeah, but that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for our show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: for Jacob Breck here on site keeping us on the air,

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. We want to thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: to this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.