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Speaker 1: Our Way with yours truly paul Anka and my buddy

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Speaker 1: Skip Bronson, is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi folks, this

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Speaker 1: is paul.

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Speaker 2: Anka and my name is Skip Bronson. We've been friends for.

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Speaker 3: Decades and we've decided to let you in on our

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Speaker 3: late night phone calls by starting a new podcast.

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Speaker 1: And welcome to Our Way. We'd like you to meet

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Speaker 1: some real good friends with us.

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Speaker 2: Your leaders in enter payment and.

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Speaker 1: Sports, innovators in business and technology, and even as sitting

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Speaker 1: president or two.

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Speaker 3: Join us as we ask the questions they've not been

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Speaker 3: asked before, tell it like it is, and even sing

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Speaker 3: a song or two.

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Speaker 1: This is our podcast and we'll be doing it our

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Speaker 1: way anything.

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Speaker 4: The thing is, when we did that, we don't forget.

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Speaker 4: We would do seventy eighty one nighters in a row.

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Speaker 2: We get into a.

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Speaker 5: Hotel every other night, you know, sleep on the bus

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Speaker 5: and express. We loved it. A Dion and the Belmonts, Sam.

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Speaker 1: Cook and we're making money and having fun with our friends.

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Speaker 5: And loved it we were young. It's great, great experience.

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Speaker 6: Hey, there you are, no buenos. I've gone like three

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Speaker 6: days without talking to me. You're on the other side

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Speaker 6: of the world.

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Speaker 7: Man, I came down here to Manila and then I

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Speaker 7: just y in Hong Kong.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 7: How's the connection? Can you hear me pretty good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean it definitely can tell that you're a long

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Speaker 6: way off, but I hear you great.

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Speaker 7: I meant to tell you because I know we had

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Speaker 7: a bad reception. I was, and I know I had

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Speaker 7: the greatest time there. I loved it, loved people went

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Speaker 7: down there. I'm not going to drop their name, but

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Speaker 7: the real influential guy is his family, the daughter and

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Speaker 7: a son, AJ and I don't leave it at that.

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Speaker 7: They hired me to come down here secretly and sing

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Speaker 7: for this guy at the house for his eightieth birthday,

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Speaker 7: and I'll just give you his first name, Oscar. And

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Speaker 7: I showed up and it was like love her first sight.

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Speaker 7: You know, we're embracing. Had no idea, and then I

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Speaker 7: wound up in the house. They had like two hundred

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Speaker 7: and fifty people. I think, so many ambassadors from everybody,

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Speaker 7: even not because she was there no shoes because she

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Speaker 7: can't walk. She's like ninety five, God bless herd. And

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Speaker 7: I did my thing in the living room. The whole

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Speaker 7: to wall food, just the most gracious people and a

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Speaker 7: real great time. And I figured it'd stop at Hong Kong.

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Speaker 7: You'll make the connection home. And it's been great. And

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Speaker 7: then I'm having a great time and I'm eating my

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Speaker 7: brains up because the food is so good here. When

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Speaker 7: were you here last year?

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Speaker 6: I was there a couple of years ago. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I love it over there. It's just it's so special.

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Speaker 6: But I have to in my next life, I'm coming

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Speaker 6: back as your travel agent.

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Speaker 7: But listen, you're always welcome to come with me anyway.

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Speaker 7: You know that I keep inviting you.

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Speaker 2: But I know I'm living on the hampster wheel. Also,

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Speaker 2: I'm in New York right now. I came here.

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Speaker 6: I've got these three public companies that I'm on the

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Speaker 6: board of. They're all meeting consecutively. So I'm here for

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Speaker 6: almost not almost. I'm here for two weeks. Went to

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Speaker 2: EATI and I went on set. Yeah, we went Saturday.

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Speaker 6: You know, my friend Rob Weisenthal owns Blade the Helicopter Company.

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Speaker 2: We took the Blade helicopter.

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Speaker 6: From the West Side Heliport. Instead of three hours and

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Speaker 6: and that was with a head win forty minutes.

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Speaker 2: It was great. I mean, I love I.

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Speaker 6: Just love helicopters, and it was just awesome flying. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's like, no must, no fuss. But yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: By the way.

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Speaker 6: When I was in first got to New York, we

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Speaker 6: You absolutely positively must see it. It's the story of

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Speaker 6: Vladimir Putin, but more importantly, the guy who created Putin

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Speaker 6: and then the way Putin turned on him.

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Speaker 7: Wow, I'll check it over there in a few weeks.

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Speaker 6: So, because I'm traveling and I've got these three board meetings,

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Speaker 6: I know you're doing your other brother, Frankie Avalon.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to miss it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know him, but in the fifties, late fifties,

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Speaker 6: he performed in Hartford at the State Theater, as did you.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that you were there in the same bill,

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Speaker 6: but he used to. You know, all the rock and

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Speaker 6: roll acts used to go to the State Theater in Hartford.

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Speaker 6: I used to go with my older sister who used

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Speaker 6: I remember that every every hot act wouldn't matter if

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Speaker 6: it was Frankie Lymon and the teenagers or you or

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Speaker 6: you know, Buddy Holly or Jerry Lee Lewis. Everybody did

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Speaker 6: one or a maximum of two songs and that was

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Speaker 7: They well travel on the bus together. It's about twelve

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Speaker 7: to fifteen miss landing there doing that ticket Sonni Air

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Speaker 7: than to sing a sex you know, maxis two songs.

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Speaker 7: But I remember it so well, Ken, it was always

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Speaker 6: So I can't wait to hear the two of you talking.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry I'm not going to be on the call

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Speaker 6: with you, but it's got to be great. You guys

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I can do this solo. I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna be okay because he's a friend. You've been doing

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Speaker 7: the best that can without you. He's going to be cool.

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Speaker 7: You know, I've known him a lot of years. He's

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Speaker 7: a he's a good guy. He's done very well. And

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Speaker 7: we live in the same neighborhood, so you know, we

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Speaker 7: see each other for dinner, and you don't want to

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Speaker 7: relate to a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 2: He's a golfer too, I think, isn't he. I think

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, he loves it, except he stopped golfing as

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Speaker 6: Oh man, it's tough on the body, violates every principle.

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Speaker 6: It's tough on the body. But you know, if you're

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Speaker 6: Well anyway, I'm sorry, I'm not going to be on

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Speaker 6: the call with you, But I actually I can't wait

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Speaker 7: We get a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: We shared a lot of.

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Speaker 7: Early stuff, and it would be unlike anything that we've done,

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Speaker 7: you know. Yeah, if you were all you guys Tod

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Speaker 7: Goble be talking golf off the time, I don't think

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Speaker 6: For non golfers, if there's one thing you don't want

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Speaker 6: and this is what I did. It's just it's painful.

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Speaker 6: But when I get back, we've got a bunch of

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Speaker 6: additional people that we want to record for this podcast,

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Speaker 6: so it'll be great.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we've got some good stuff in the backline.

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Speaker 6: And we got some amazing coverage on the Alec Baldwin

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Speaker 6: Man oh Man that that was picked up everywhere.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I got a lot of calls on that. He

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Speaker 7: was great. You know, my heart skiped bleach.

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Speaker 2: For Yeah, that thing in New Mexico.

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Speaker 6: That's insane, but was he was so great to do it,

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Speaker 6: and he was it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, so I know it's the middle of the night

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Speaker 2: for you over there. So I'm gonna let you go

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Speaker 7: It's getting there, it's only one in the morning. And

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Speaker 7: give my love to the eaty girl. I will, I will,

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Speaker 7: and you travel safe and monsieur and I'll let you

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Speaker 7: know when I've done with Frankie out and see you

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Speaker 7: like the week of the night.

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Speaker 2: You got it. I love you.

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Speaker 7: I love you too, skit sleeping, chill.

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Speaker 1: Rank you. What do you think you want to eat?

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Speaker 1: You want salad or something? The pasta? You're here now, No,

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Speaker 5: Maybe a little salad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna do the promenade salad.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, I'll go half Okay, we go half.

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Speaker 5: Now you're done touring for the year.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna leaving for Asia in three weeks and

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Speaker 1: I'm going my touring Jane in June, and I've got

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Speaker 5: Well, that would be cool, wouldn't it. Oh, we just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm only not a lot I'm gonna it's gonna

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Speaker 1: and big band because I opened it with justin Timberlake.

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Speaker 1: So they saw it, you know, place to do it.

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Speaker 1: I do what I do, right. So these owners are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they constantly to Rediscovery people, right right. So they said,

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Speaker 1: I want to use holograms I want to use. So

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Speaker 1: that in uh November, and I got to start writing

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Speaker 5: God bless you you for something else and I.

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Speaker 1: Love what I do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's the important thing.

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Speaker 4: I brought my phone, but I don't carry that thing

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Speaker 1: Lucky to get you on it.

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Speaker 4: But for some reason when somebody sent me a thing

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Speaker 4: a poster and maybe you guys can get a.

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Speaker 5: Hold of it, take a look at it. I think

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Speaker 5: it was one of the biggest show of stars of

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Speaker 5: back in fifty eight. You're on the show, I'm on

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Speaker 5: the show.

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Speaker 1: Daron was on.

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Speaker 5: I think that Bobby was on one.

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Speaker 1: Sam Cook dollar twenty five for the admission.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm getting to.

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Speaker 1: That's what a dollar twenty five on one show and

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Speaker 1: it's in San Francisco. I got the poster. It could

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Speaker 1: You know we got paid back then. I got two

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Speaker 4: There you go, Sid Feller and Don Costa. We got

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Speaker 1: Who brought me?

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Speaker 5: It must have been promoting something.

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Speaker 1: Sixty and it would be Diana.

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Speaker 1: I remember all my hang with you guys in Philly.

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Speaker 1: Well, we started, I've been on was on a couple

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Speaker 4: You were one step behind him because you had the

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Speaker 5: You were songwriters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was too.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't know that part of it, but I

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Speaker 1: So Bobby, he looks at Murray and Murray says, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Really.

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Speaker 1: He goes to Ahmed Erdig in Atlantic, where he was.

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Speaker 1: They looked at him like he was crazy. He makes

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Speaker 5: Is that right?

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Speaker 1: With Bobby Darren?

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Speaker 5: He was an extremely talented We traveled.

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Speaker 1: I love Bobby Fall. We traveled with you and I

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Speaker 5: That's because we were little. Some of those giant I

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Speaker 5: But the thing is when we did that, we don't forget.

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Speaker 4: We would do seventy eighty one nighters in a row,

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Speaker 5: Dianna, the Belmonts, Sam.

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Speaker 1: Cook and we're making money and having fun with our

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Speaker 5: It's great, great experience.

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Speaker 1: But Bobby was with us. It was nuts about this guy, Frankie,

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Speaker 1: because I just admired you. It was always Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank.

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Speaker 1: He was better than Frank in this fashion. No, no,

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Speaker 1: hear me. Frank was not a musician. Bobby Darren was

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Speaker 1: Frank never swung like that. Frank read the lyric. And

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Speaker 5: He made a comment in Life magazine. Yeah, I'm bigger

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Speaker 1: But he was something else. Boy, I really admired by.

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Speaker 5: I loved him too.

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Speaker 4: He was very He lived into Luca Lake, where I

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's where we raised our eight kids.

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Speaker 4: My mother in law's house was right across the street

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Speaker 5: Charlie was his uncle, but I think it was his father.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she calls me now and then we talk about

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Speaker 5: It was Bobby. Bobby's Frankie, what are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here, sister, I said, we're doing

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Speaker 4: He said, I'm getting out of here. No more Tuxsiro's

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Speaker 5: I ain't doing that. That's right, this is and he

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Speaker 1: That's rights.

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Speaker 5: So so I saw that very beginning of a change.

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Speaker 1: I saw that too. It was all you know, it

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: They shut him down in Vegas. They wouldn't accept it.

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Speaker 1: And then he switched. He went back to being the

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Speaker 1: It didn't work.

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Speaker 5: You know what happened that story. He was at the frontier.

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Speaker 4: I get a call said, Bobby Darren's not going to

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Speaker 4: So I called Bobby.

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Speaker 5: To he said, I'm and he's pissed. I said, what happened?

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Speaker 4: Now he's making it's a million dollar contract, Bobby says,

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Speaker 4: I told the mayor d and I.

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Speaker 5: Told everybody with the hotel.

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Speaker 4: If any celebrity ever comes in to see my show,

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Speaker 5: So that was Bobby's thing.

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Speaker 4: Well, what had happened one time one show that he

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Speaker 5: I'm out of here.

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Speaker 4: He blew the contract for a million dollar contract and

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Speaker 5: That's the kind of guy who was, you know, who

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Speaker 1: He gave his first instrument was Costello, Frank Costello. Sure

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Speaker 1: even when you and I used to talk and the guys,

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00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 1: you know, we want to get the tucks on. We

446
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: want to And then I did the Swings for Young

447
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: Lovers album. I had this Squeaky Little Boys. My boys

448
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: had me to change. No yours was yeah, you changed later.

449
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 2: You know.

450
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 5: I sounded like Wayne Newton, no no, no, one sells.

451
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: No no. But I had the Squeaky Boys and we're

452
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 1: swinging because we wanted to write right. But he because

453
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: I remember I used to say that, no, I don't

454
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 1: want to do this rock and roll ship. Because he

455
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 1: got Richard West, who I knew.

456
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 5: He became my conductor.

457
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 1: He was your conductor. After that.

458
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 5: After after Bob he.

459
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 1: Did those records. I know, he did those records for

460
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: ATCO and everyone was so against him, and he tested it.

461
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 1: He tested with that, even Dick when he heard it,

462
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 1: you know, Clark was tight with him. Dick Clark was

463
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: very tight with Bobby Darren. He liked Bobby. Oh, and

464
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 1: he played him. I think Mac the Knife, you know,

465
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: remember how tight we all went used to.

466
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 5: Play with the Elegant. That's where he was with Dick

467
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 5: Western and doing that version of Mac the Knife exactly.

468
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: But you know who found him. He had a good

469
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: woman in his life. Wasserman. What was her name? She

470
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: stuck with him like a pr Pt. Wasserman. I think, no, no, no, anyway,

471
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 1: she and Steve Blowner were the two supporters, but she

472
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 1: was there first, and she found Richard West for him.

473
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 5: You know, with Richard West and Bobby Darren.

474
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: Me when I was first starting out with those records

475
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 4: were bombs.

476
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 2: You know.

477
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 4: I would go to New York City and stay with

478
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 4: Bobby and Dick West because they were rooming together too.

479
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 5: Because Bobby hadn't hit yet. Don't forget, Bobby came after us.

480
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: You can hit so much later. He was like twenty

481
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: one or twenty two, way after us. He was writing

482
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: songs with Donnie Kershner at different accents. Now he was

483
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: he was something boy. I really I love Bobby and

484
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: he could move man. I mean we had. We were

485
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: still learning, right, but that was remember right they do

486
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: the little footstep and all right, right right? And you

487
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: and I were looking because when you were kids compared

488
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: to him, Wait.

489
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 5: A minute, what about this talent? How about nominated for

490
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 5: an Academy Award, Captain Newman m D.

491
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: That's right, that's absolutely he was. I'm going to be

492
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: an actor.

493
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 2: I remember that.

494
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 5: He was complete, he was all around complete.

495
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: And there we were worrying about our hair, right and

496
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do? What we were teen idols and

497
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: Bobby he hated us because we had the fucking hair.

498
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 4: I remembered the two Bay remember.

499
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 5: And he'd be combing his hair, be coming out. He

500
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 5: saturday back, my goddamn here Jesus great.

501
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 1: That he had insecurities like that. He never thought he

502
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: was a good looking guy. He'd always teases, well, we

503
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: were teen idols.

504
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was never a teen idol.

505
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: We went through that were were the beginning of teen IELs.

506
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 4: After Sinatra, Johnny Ray came.

507
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: Out, that's right. He had his little taste with Dick

508
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: Dick Clark and he did dream Lover, Splash Splash. He

509
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: did a couple of those shows, you know those girls.

510
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: You and I used to talk about the screaming about everybody, right,

511
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: the same girl you're gonna, said Santa Claus. Bobby's playing

512
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: to the same chicks that we were playing to. It

513
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: was hilarious. But he wanted out, man, he wanted to

514
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: swing with those tours. How brutal was that? Do you

515
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: remember how brutal some of those tours were?

516
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 5: Are you kidding?

517
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: You? Remember our little black suits. We used to hang

518
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: in the shower. We wouldn't afford to get him pressed,

519
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: and we'd all be sitting there in a road doing

520
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: our hair while the suits were in this in the

521
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: steam shower.

522
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: Your washing your.

523
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 5: Clothes in the shower, you know, on you get the soap,

524
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 5: wash your clothes.

525
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: You know, you think of Frankie, how good it became

526
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: for us. Now we're working, you're working the technology the

527
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: way we work. Do you remember that one microphone for

528
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: everybody and one microphone in front of the band, and

529
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: that was all.

530
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 5: I think about those days? Where did the sound come from?

531
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 5: I had no idea. First of all, you couldn't hear

532
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 5: me anyway. The kids were screaming so much.

533
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: Didn't matter, That couldn't matter.

534
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 4: But I mean we'd go and no such thing as

535
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 4: a sound check. You got on the microphone.

536
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: You know your life was in your hands. I am

537
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: standing in front of the mic.

538
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 4: Great times though, Well, remember how notorious Chuck Berry used

539
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:52,239
Speaker 4: to be.

540
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 5: Well, he never got on the bus.

541
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: Was Cadillac?

542
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 5: You followed us in the pink Cadillac?

543
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: I mean god, I think of those days. There was

544
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: another town was a guy Chuck songwriter?

545
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 5: All those words, are you kidding?

546
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, there were a lot of towns. A guy Sam Cook?

547
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 5: I love Sam Cook. You want to talk about a

548
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 5: class guy? Handsome? And how about Jackie Wilson.

549
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: I was just going to say, Bobby got a lot

550
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: of his moves from Jackie.

551
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 5: You know, I remember how we used to move with this.

552
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 4: He was the first guy to do the steps and

553
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: don't want to get on the floor, and they put

554
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: the cape on.

555
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: Him, just like Freeman, Jay Hawkins and James Brown.

556
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 5: James Brown, remember James.

557
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: Used to sell Were you on those tours when you

558
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: set chocolate bars and cokes in the back of the

559
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: bus and sell them? No, used to be blue paying

560
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: what fifteen cents?

561
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 5: Can you imagine me following at the Paramount Theater in

562
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 5: New York City.

563
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 4: I'm headlining big lineup of stars, and I'm headlining your

564
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: last I.

565
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 5: Gotta follow hellow Jackie Wilson, Wait a minute. Daytime was

566
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: fine because I walk out.

567
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 4: Of there and the kids fans and always screaming and

568
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 4: yelling and all that stuff.

569
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 5: In the daytime. But at night time there were a

570
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 5: lot of guys there.

571
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 4: So when Jackie Wilson, and he was a showman in

572
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: a head when he did his ending and the music

573
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: to be playing, they put the cape on them like

574
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: this and take them on stage.

575
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 5: They were on their feet yelling. And now ladies and gentlemen,

576
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 5: here he is Frankie Boo.

577
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: And I'm following them with puppy lovers of the You

578
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: know who was cool? Remember Frankie Lyman.

579
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 5: How talented was he. I'd stand in the wings and

580
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 5: watch Frankie Limon.

581
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: God was he good?

582
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 5: You want to talk about the moves of Michael Jackson and.

583
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: Then Frankie Limon, big heroin addict. Remember we found out

584
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: in the middle of the tour, Yeah, that he was

585
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: doing the heroine and he was seeing the girl from

586
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: the platters. We never knew that either.

587
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 5: Zoiela.

588
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: Yes, but Frankie was talented.

589
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 4: What memories we have, and it's so nice that we're

590
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: able to talk about it.

591
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, when to.

592
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: Be here and talk about it and still doing what

593
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: we're doing to do. I say it every night I

594
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: go on stage like it's the first one. I always

595
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: reflect back. You know when you think about the mileage,

596
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: Frank you, Oh, we have to learn before we really

597
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: became confident. Remember of the intrepidations we'd have just doing

598
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: the two songs and still learning our craft, and then

599
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: they'd come to us. You gotta go to Copa, gotta

600
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: go to Vegas. We're gonna teach you this stuff. Remember

601
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: the guys that lose Spencer does that ring a bell?

602
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 5: Spencer?

603
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 1: How about Noel Sherman and Joe Sherman, the Brothers guy

604
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: that wrote for me and wrote for me.

605
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 5: Too, and Nick Castle.

606
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: Nick Castle, yeah he was cool, kidd, he was the best.

607
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: Nick was cool.

608
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: My opening show, Casino Royale, that's right, right, And it's

609
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 4: my opening show, and I'm in a commitment. The band plays,

610
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: I'll take man, and then I have to another song,

611
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: and then I have to say thank you very much.

612
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 5: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Okay, I do the opening show.

613
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: Steve Lawrence is there, Edie's there, and Ned Ficello's there,

614
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: and I sing my first opening song and I go

615
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: like this, imagine, gentlemen, I got so nervous I could

616
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: sing good dog.

617
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 5: I'll never forget that open. Then went to the Kopa.

618
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 5: You had a bondit. Oh, yeah, sure, I had a bondit.

619
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: I was writing the music. Do you remember I was

620
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: writing all that music for the Cope. I wrote all

621
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: those dancing girls.

622
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 5: That's right.

623
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: No dressing rooms. We had to live up in that

624
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: stupid hotel. That was a tough place. You didn't fool

625
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: around it.

626
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 5: How about our dressing room?

627
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: What dressing room the hotel fourteen, that little little hotel fourteen.

628
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 5: Yes, but then the little side.

629
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: Of the girls changed and we changed.

630
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 5: But you know it's really something the mouth guy that

631
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: introduced us.

632
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: How about this guy for Frankie, the Light's gonna.

633
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 5: Dug County Doug Howdy. He introduced you straight as an arrow.

634
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Who did you say, the guy that introduced what him?

635
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, dog.

636
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna say Doug, Oh, Doug? Oh, you meant introduced

637
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen? Yeah, right, yeah, eye opened just like

638
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: you did. Remember they had it all figured out. You

639
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: worked the Kopa. But but you had to have a comic.

640
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: All of us had a comic. You had a comic

641
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: open for you. Yeah, I had a comic cop. We

642
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: hired this guy called Jackie Mason, brilliant. So we did

643
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: prom night as you as I. Three shows and the

644
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: kids are in white all the way around, and.

645
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 5: We were right in the middle of the floor. We

646
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 5: can't even move.

647
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: You can't even sold out all of us. Jackie Wilson,

648
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: after opening night gets a little Hey, we're a hit.

649
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: Hey we hit, But you think could you do? We're

650
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: gonna go to be a hit like that. So now

651
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: we all knew we had to go up to the hotel.

652
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: We couldn't go in there. Yeah, you go up to

653
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: your dressing room in it. He decides on the second

654
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: night with me to go through the front door with

655
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: the kids. Oh my god, and he walks and remember Julie,

656
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: he used to sit there.

657
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, with the ring right right.

658
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: He walks by the kids and Julie and he says, hey,

659
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: mister Botel. He says, it's Jackie.

660
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 5: Get back in line. He didn't know who he was Oh,

661
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 5: he was the most hated guy.

662
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: He ran.

663
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: He ran that place, Like you said, the boys hired

664
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: him to keep that place and he did.

665
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 7: Yeah.

666
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Once in a while you have to say, you

667
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: get a call. Hodell would coming you, come up to

668
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: the lounge. He'd say, there's a limo out there.

669
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: There a limb out there.

670
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 4: You gotta go sing Sweet sixteen party and between shows.

671
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: Right, it was one of the boy you're telling you

672
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 5: to go.

673
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: Do you know good?

674
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: We did what we have to do.

675
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: Man.

676
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: Look, you know it got us off those bus tours.

677
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: The evolution of all of us that tried to do it,

678
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, and though those that couldn't. How about those

679
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: short careers, Oh my god, I mean Connie Francis had

680
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: a career with the fathers. They remember the love affair

681
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: with Bobby and her. Sure he wanted to marry her.

682
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: He wanted to marry her, wanted to.

683
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Marry and then the father was threatening him. I think

684
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: it was George Scheck or one of the managers. I

685
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: don't want to misrepresent it. They have to go to

686
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Bobby and say you got a chill, Oh, you wanted

687
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: to marry Connie. He was madly in love with her.

688
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: I know she's told me many, many, many times about

689
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: her friendship relationship with Bobby.

690
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: She was she was a good artist.

691
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 5: Oh you want to know she did.

692
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 4: Connie Francis is the hottest vocalist, female vocalist in this

693
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: entire world. I mean hits after hits after hits after hits, made.

694
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: A couple of films too. Yeah, I had a great career.

695
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: She's still was great. I don't know if she's still

696
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 5: out there working.

697
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 6: I've run into her.

698
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 5: Once in a while and that's about it. She lives

699
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: down in Florida.

700
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: Now.

701
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: No, I haven't heard from her a senior in such

702
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: a long time.

703
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 5: Well, I ain't money involves just left.

704
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Well, I'm goppy, it's you and I. You know who

705
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: I was in touch with recently. Another good guy was

706
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: Tony Orlando.

707
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 5: Yes, such a I he retired. I know, it's all

708
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 5: over the place.

709
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: The other night in the Mohicans, son and I surprised

710
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: him with one of my my way lyrics. Oh yeah,

711
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: and they played went on with the no no no.

712
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: I was working.

713
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: I was in Florida, but I oh you sent them

714
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 5: to the.

715
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: Right.

716
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: And Tom Cantone is a great guy. Runs Mohicans. He's brilliant.

717
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: So he arranged it with Tom and they showed it.

718
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: But he was tight with Bobby too.

719
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 5: Oh I no, he loved Bobby and he.

720
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: There's another guy. He was a co executive.

721
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: He was a promotion man. I don't know if he

722
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 5: was an executive.

723
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: He was an executive with Clive Davis. I'm telling you

724
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: he ran a division. He was a record exec and

725
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: then he did some demo record. I think the song

726
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: was Condider Oh again, and he put another name. He

727
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: was a record executive, Frankie. And then it started to

728
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: evolve to they were going Clive said, oh, I knew

729
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: it was you, et cetera, et cetera, And that's how

730
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: his career started. And then Don and what have you.

731
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: But he was running a division of a record company.

732
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 4: You know the first time I met him with cousin

733
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 4: Brucey Pacific Palisades, remember the.

734
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: And he was just coming up.

735
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: I think he had I forget the first record that

736
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: he had, Paradise something.

737
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 5: Paradise was a Paradise was in there before he came over.

738
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: And he was so because I was already established. Now

739
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 4: I'm after Venus and all this other stuff.

740
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 5: And I'm making motion picture. He comes to me and.

741
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 4: Really very sweet, almost like a fan at that time.

742
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: So as the years go by, and he becomes more

743
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: famous and more famous, and I'm playing Las Vegas and

744
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 4: he's opening for the first time across the street at

745
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: the Hilton. I opened the Landmark Hotel, so he was

746
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 4: in the lounge. So I'm in the main showroom, so

747
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: I'm able to go see him. I go to see

748
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: his show, and ladies and gentlemen Tony Orlando. The lights

749
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: are dim and he comes out and he sings his

750
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 4: opening song. Who is the Man? The man they call Chef.

751
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 4: I go back to his dressing room. He said, what

752
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: do you think of the show? I said, to me,

753
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: let me tell you something.

754
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 5: First of all, that opening song all wrong. I said,

755
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 5: what are you singing?

756
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 4: You got to come up on up, You got to

757
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: see the lights, you got to see people, you got

758
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: to perform.

759
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: He never forgot that. He never ever forgot that.

760
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 4: Now time goes by, Tony Orlando gets a television show.

761
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 5: I think it was CBS, NBC. It was NBC. I'm

762
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: doing the Dinah Shore Show. She had a talk show.

763
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 5: If you remember that.

764
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: I'm in the makeup chair. I'm getting made up. All

765
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I feel this.

766
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 5: I turn around.

767
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 4: He grabs me, hugs me, frank you Tony, congratulations. I

768
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: say to him, you got a show. You gotta hit

769
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: television show. He says to me, I want you on.

770
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: I said, Tony, that's very sweet of you, but I

771
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: know this business unless you get an okay from the execs.

772
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 5: Approval, the approval, you know, thanks for jaking. So I'm

773
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 5: going to have you on. And you know what, he

774
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 5: kept his word, put me on the show. We did

775
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 5: songs together. We sang. It was great.

776
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: He's a nice guy, absolutely performer, really good. He was

777
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: doing Darren little of Darren little of you know. No, no,

778
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: he was a very good performance, you know.

779
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 5: And now he's retired. Can you believe that?

780
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: Did you know Elvis at all?

781
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

782
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: Did you spend some time with him a little bit? Yeah, yeah,

783
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: I spent I spent a good deal. We were on

784
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: r C A Victor together. But you know, he was

785
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: separate from all of us. You know that he had

786
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: his own king. But I said, I did spend some

787
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: good time with him, and especially when he came out

788
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: started working in Vegas. You know, he'd come over and

789
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: see my show. I'd go see him, and then you know,

790
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: I saw the whole evolution into that unfortunate health problem is.

791
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: But he used to near the end, he used always

792
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: say to me.

793
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do Polly.

794
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 1: I'm going to do my way that song. You know. Yeah,

795
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: I said, it's not really your kindest Polly, you don't understand.

796
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: And he'd sit there, have six of his guys and

797
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that song poly Yeah, I'm a songwriter.

798
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: Song why not? But he did a great job.

799
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 4: Hey, what a great artist. I would go to his

800
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: house on a friendship level. I mean I saw him

801
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 4: perform once. It was magnificent at the Hill. But I

802
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: would go to his house and barbecue, touch football.

803
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 5: You liked that kind of shu.

804
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 4: But it was amazing how he presented himself at his house,

805
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 4: because he never went to restaurants or anything.

806
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 5: You would go to his house.

807
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 4: He'd have people waiting, and his guys that dressed like him,

808
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: and you know, and they would come out of where

809
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: his dress, where his bedroom was. El was coming out

810
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 4: and man ellis about man elist man.

811
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, the doors would open up.

812
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 4: Bang, and Elvis would come out like an entry, and

813
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 4: everybody went.

814
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 5: And he was a handsome guy, and and and and

815
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 5: and quiet and nice.

816
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: And the thing I noticed about it most of all

817
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: when he sat down, his legs never stopped moving.

818
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: Oh he had one of those.

819
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, legs were shaken like this. And he had a

820
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 5: jukebox in his house. Yea with every song record nobody

821
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 5: else but him. All this stuff, all this stuff.

822
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: He was got a guy. First of all, My wife

823
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 4: went with Tuesday. Well they were friends, you know, and

824
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: to the house of one time.

825
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 5: He wanted a date.

826
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: K my wife, you know, she said, no, I don't

827
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 4: think so, I said, what you picked me over?

828
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: She picked the right guy.

829
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, they were sixty one years married.

830
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: Wow, you're sixty one years married? Now?

831
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, when was the anniversary of Frank January nineteenth?

832
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: Do you have a party or anything?

833
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 5: We always have a party. I got eight kids, I

834
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 5: got ten grand kids. It's always a party. I got

835
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 5: nine now nine? Yeah, mine, I got the boy. But

836
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 5: that's the only boy, my only boy.

837
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: All girls.

838
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: You got the six girls.

839
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: I got five girls, one boy and nine grandchildren.

840
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 5: Who ever thought, huh? Now?

841
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: The way we ran a You and I who thought

842
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: any woman would ever put up with us? I mean,

843
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: were we nuts? Are you kidding me?

844
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 5: My oldest boy is now.

845
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Sixty, my daughters like fifty eight.

846
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: We're the same age, my son and I. I don't

847
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 5: know how we know.

848
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: There's a new test now. There is a blood test

849
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: now where they will now tell you what your true

850
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: body age is.

851
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 5: Really Yeah, I don't want to know.

852
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: I'm like fifty five, I kept.

853
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 5: I want to fake everybody out.

854
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: No, no, you gotta get this test because I'm sure

855
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: you're hell do you take care of yourself, but you

856
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: gotta go and get this test. It's good.

857
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 5: Oh I'm not going.

858
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: You gotta go.

859
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 5: Man, how much?

860
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: What do you want? Listen to find out good news?

861
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: I'll give you anything, but you know what it is.

862
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: We're living not only in a day and age of

863
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: where music arts. Everything in life has changed and is

864
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: with artificial intelligence, but medicine and what's on the landscape

865
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: is unbelievable.

866
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 5: Frankie, you oh, I know the.

867
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: Next three years they will have inroads to everything. It's

868
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: a great time to be living. Get the goddamn politics straight,

869
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: then things would be better.

870
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 5: I always thought getting older would take longer. It comes

871
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 5: you know what I do.

872
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: I never mentioned the world ever. If somebody says to me, oh,

873
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting old, never mentioned the world older, keep older,

874
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: keep the old man out. Don't live by the number.

875
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 5: Who said that, keep the old man out Eastwood? Maybe

876
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 5: that's why it's out there. Yeah, I worked with him.

877
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: Great guy. He's my neighbor up in Carmel. Another great guy, talented,

878
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: nice family. My kids grew up with his kids. Oh

879
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: it's a good stuff, isn't it.

880
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 5: I know what a career and you keep going around

881
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 5: the world.

882
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: You got still throw dirt on you. You know.

883
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 4: I got to the point I started making film a

884
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 4: lot of forty pictures more. Maybe I don't know, but

885
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: I got to the point where I said, you know what,

886
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: I don't want to do films anymore.

887
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: And meaning by that, I don't if they want me

888
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 5: or not. But I didn't want any representation to say you,

889
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 5: I can get you this role. I could go with it.

890
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 5: There's a picture coming up, and I don't want to

891
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 5: do it.

892
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: When you make that many pictures. And I had a

893
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: lot of fun making with those things, but I just

894
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 4: got tired of the the format of how you have

895
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 4: to make emotional picture on location and was in a baby.

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00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: Supposed No, I mean did a lot of those.

897
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, forget seven of those, but then there's a

898
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 5: lot of good stuff. Yeah.

899
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: Sure wasn't a net adorable. God, I love that girl.

900
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, she was a sweetheart.

901
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: She wanted to get married. I know I couldn't do it,

902
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: but what a family and what a sweetheart she She

903
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: just had that sweetness, that goodness. I don't know where

904
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: it came from, but she would never different.

905
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 5: It was honest, it was you know, she was so sweet.

906
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 4: She really I think she was really pushed into the business.

907
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 4: She really didn't care about it as much as you

908
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 4: would think. Exactly what she had to do something, she did.

909
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: It any hour. The mother, the teacher, the whole crew.

910
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 5: We're doing we had made about six or seven of

911
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 5: the beach things and we're doing a halftime at the

912
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 5: super Bowl I think it was super Bowl twenty three.

913
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: It's a big deal. You've got a million people, ten

914
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 5: million people, whatever. But she's a nervous wreck. She says,

915
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 5: I don't know. I said you got to do this.

916
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 5: People loved you. Remember that team curtain up out?

917
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: She went, see what I did the album with her? God,

918
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: She was nervous with Tuti Camerano and I had to

919
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: talk her through every song because she wasn't a singer.

920
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: But she get out. She's on tour with us.

921
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: No.

922
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: I love that girl. She was just the sweetest and

923
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: married our agent Jack.

924
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 5: She love you well.

925
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: I loved her. You know, we were really very very close.

926
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: I just the marriage thing just scared me. You know,

927
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready. What were we eighteen nineteen something like that.

928
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: Remember we used to travel on those planes sometimes to

929
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: get the gigs in shirts and ties. Do you know

930
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: remember when we dressed? They had us so brainwashed. I

931
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: remember going on those airplanes and no time, and I'm

932
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: in a shirt and a tie and we're all sitting

933
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: in shirt and ties on this God, I don't know, remember, you.

934
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 5: Don't want That was style everybody. We had style class

935
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 5: and we learned.

936
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

937
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you had the capacity to learn it.

938
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: And keep it. That's the difference of you me and

939
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: there's other guys you talked about.

940
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 5: Yeah that went by, you know, that's right.

941
00:44:52,719 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Difference with Paul Anka and Skip Bronson is a

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Speaker 3: The show's executive producer is Jordan Runtogg with supervising producer

944
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Speaker 3: and editor Marcy Depina.

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00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,520
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947
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,719
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00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:30,160
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