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Speaker 1: All right, man, Blueleg Cat Podcast, we got a special

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Speaker 1: guest in here, A legend, immortal technique is here. Thank you, sir,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me on the show. Of course, Man,

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Speaker 1: I first discovered your music, I want to say I

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Speaker 1: was probably like fourteen or fifteen. It might have been

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Speaker 1: the first revolutionary but I remember then I got to

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Speaker 1: see you live in Phoenix. It might have been a

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Speaker 1: revolutionary Volume two tour. Who'd you have on tour with

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Speaker 1: you around that time? Probably a poisoned pen maybe Chino

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Speaker 1: Excel mm hmmm, a few other cats. Yes, I got

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Speaker 1: to see you live, and I saw I've seen I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've seen you live a bunch of times over the years.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, man, you're an independent I would say, like

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Speaker 1: a goat in the independent hip hop space. Man, there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of people who could be like Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Headline Festivals is an independent rapper, and I remember seeing

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Speaker 1: you Headline Rock the Bells Rock the Bells Pay Due

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Speaker 1: is one of those. I mean, I hold the record

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Speaker 1: for some festivals for Uta from our old agency at

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Speaker 1: United Talent, we did four festivals, sorry, three festivals in

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Speaker 1: three different European countries which were nowhere near each other

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Speaker 1: within a twenty four hour period. What I used to

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Speaker 1: do probably about two hundred, two hundred and fifty shows

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Speaker 1: a year. Now, obviously it's a lot less because I

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Speaker 1: have other responsibilities. But unlike other artists who you know,

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Speaker 1: no disrespect to the DJs, course focused a lot on mixtapes, right,

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Speaker 1: I focused a lot on touring rather than mixtapes. So

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Speaker 1: I may only have like one or two free mixtapes,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time, I have like seventeen world

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Speaker 1: tours under my belt. Right countries that people are like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, You've been to Australia, Tasmania, New Zealand,

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Speaker 1: all these places, Romania, right you, Czech Republic, South America,

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Speaker 1: all over the place, Morocco, Africa. Yeah, now you're worldwide, dude.

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Speaker 1: I mean your music. I feel like your music was

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Speaker 1: very like you know, I feel like I learned so

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Speaker 1: before I really had like readily like internet access, if

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. So like some of the shit like

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Speaker 1: about like our government or just the world, like I

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Speaker 1: have first heard like you rapping about it. Do you

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Speaker 1: hear that a lot? I mean, I think it was

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Speaker 1: during a time in which people were living in a

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Speaker 1: post nine to eleven world that was really fresh, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of individuals were scared. They were looking for

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Speaker 1: easy answers, looking for ways to blame people. And when

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Speaker 1: I brought up things like, for example, that I made

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Speaker 1: that brought up the fact that bin Laden was a

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Speaker 1: CIA asset. That was not something people wanted to discuss

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and two, right, that his code name

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Speaker 1: and this is not a conspiracy, No, it's not a conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: It's true. His code name was Timothy Osmond and that

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Speaker 1: he carried out several acts and atrocities in the name

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Speaker 1: of the United States government for their purposes, but not

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Speaker 1: just that. Also, so talking to people in Afghanistan when

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Speaker 1: what they call the Hazada genocide, which is something that

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Speaker 1: series of Asiatic Central Asian people from Afghanistan and they

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Speaker 1: any Americans. He murdered children outside of a city called

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Speaker 1: Mazardah Sharif, and like, I went to Afghanistan in two

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Speaker 1: with the profits from an album that I had called

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Speaker 1: The Third World with DJ Green Lantern. Sho shout out

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Speaker 1: to my brother Green Lantern. I remember that yet and

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Speaker 1: thank you for helping me with that Green Lance And

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Speaker 1: he was somebody that believed in me and brought me

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Speaker 1: up to the radio even when they were like, don't

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Speaker 1: bring him the fuck up the Hot ninety seven. Now

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Speaker 1: they're like, oh, he's a legend, but before they're like,

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Speaker 1: don't bring him up here, he's crazy. I remember when

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Speaker 1: And also I think that even to this day, there's

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna lie keV. Even twenty years later,

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Speaker 1: people ask me, is Dance with the Devil a true story?

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Speaker 1: And I have to look these people right in the

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Speaker 1: And that's why it became such a powerful story because

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna mention names because these people don't deserve

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Speaker 1: a safe gun. You have to respect everything. I'm a

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Speaker 1: of your would you say that's your most popular song,

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Speaker 1: It's like one of them, right, probably? Yeah. For people

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Speaker 1: Dance with the Devil. What is the premise of the record? Well,

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Speaker 1: unless I'm ready to go full Chris Dorner rest in peace.

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent alone. Now I'm even more independent than

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Speaker 1: I was before. Everything is now Rebel Army Records and

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Speaker 1: just straight immortal technique. And then I built five oh

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Speaker 1: It's called Rebel Army Runs and you can find us.

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Speaker 1: It's a charity, right, Yeah, five one just for people

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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, it's a charity. You can find us

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Speaker 1: like a few years, we can move out of there

427
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Speaker 1: and we can try and get our own place again,

428
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Speaker 1: get back on our feet. And I looked at the

429
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Speaker 1: guys and I said, don't you understand, bro y'all motherfucker's

430
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Speaker 1: out here looking for random broads. This motherfucker not only

431
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Speaker 1: found the love of his life, but he found a

432
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Speaker 1: woman that really holds that standard. For better or for worse.

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Speaker 1: And not only that, but y'all motherfuckers don't got a

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Speaker 1: plan this ding I got a plan. And I sat

435
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Speaker 1: there and I was like, I don't got a plan

436
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Speaker 1: and I don't got a ride or die? What the

437
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Speaker 1: fuck am I doing? I still live with my mom

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Speaker 1: and dad. I'm still, I'm still. I'm still with a

439
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Speaker 1: life preserver on this dude's swimming in the ocean with

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Speaker 1: wifey trying to make it. And it humbled me so

441
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: much that I swear I have such a different attitude

442
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Speaker 1: dealing with people. I talk to a janitor the way

443
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Speaker 1: I would talk. I think everybody should do that, man,

444
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Speaker 1: because you never know. Like I always tell that to people.

445
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you never know who you could, especially

446
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Speaker 1: you know, outside of just day to day real life.

447
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: Like I talk to young artists all the time about

448
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: just like treating the end you gotta treat the interns

449
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: with respect, you gotta treat the engineers with respect, because

450
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: you never know who's gonna end up being the president

451
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: of your label one day or you know whoever. So yeah, no,

452
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: it's definitely the case, even like up becoming artists. You

453
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Speaker 1: know a lot of times people shit like will shit

454
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Speaker 1: on up and cooming artists like it's like that could

455
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Speaker 1: be the next too. Hover the fuck and they might

456
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: or they'll just go at the youth because they're like

457
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Speaker 1: I don't like this style or something like that. So

458
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Speaker 1: I know that being from my era, everybody when the

459
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Speaker 1: when the skinny jeans first came out, they were ripping

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Speaker 1: these kids. And I used to joke with everybody. I

461
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: used to be like, listen, they might be wearing skinny jeans,

462
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Speaker 1: they might even have a person on, but there's a

463
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Speaker 1: gun in that person. You gotta be careful with these

464
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Speaker 1: little kids, like you can't just smack them up like

465
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Speaker 1: this nothing. You have to respect the fact that the

466
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Speaker 1: youth still they want to prove themselves in something. And

467
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Speaker 1: so you know, whether people make fun of them here

468
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Speaker 1: like the Edgarls, that not's very farm. You don't want

469
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Speaker 1: to get jumped by tapped into the Edgar. You don't

470
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Speaker 1: want to get jumped with some fam Don't get jumped

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Speaker 1: by fifty Edgars at Knotsbery Farm because that is not

472
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: that's not something that your your reputation can recover from.

473
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Speaker 1: All right, you getting beat up by gang members people

474
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 1: are like all right, what what do you expect? You?

475
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: But you're getting jumped by children, don't you? Do? You

476
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: follow all the like food communities and like all those

477
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Speaker 1: ig pages. Who's gone wild? Yeah, big shout out to

478
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: Foodl's going wild? Yeah, it's hilarious. I think that. But

479
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: they always have the edgars fighting at knots. It's always

480
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: like what's going on in Notts Very Farm. They had

481
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Speaker 1: to change the rules. Yeah, they made it so that

482
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Speaker 1: you have to have a big homie with you, But

483
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Speaker 1: that didn't change that much because I could just get

484
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Speaker 1: the twenty year old homie to come right, right, So

485
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Speaker 1: you have to be accompanied by someone over twenty one? Yeah,

486
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: so you just got to bring the big homie? Now? Uh?

487
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Speaker 1: What it was your because obviously, uh, I think that

488
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Speaker 1: we just went through a pretty wild historical time with

489
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Speaker 1: the pandemic. I think that a lot of the people

490
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Speaker 1: who questioned the vaccine are probably like feeling a little

491
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Speaker 1: more vindicated of recent recent memory. But from your perspective,

492
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Speaker 1: someone who's always kind of spoken about big government and

493
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: just shit, you know, what was your thought process now

494
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Speaker 1: that we're kind of removed, I'm gonna say we're totally removed, right,

495
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: But that we've kind of gotten through this pandemic. The

496
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Speaker 1: vaccine just all that. It was kind of a weird

497
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Speaker 1: era of life that I'm not sure we'll ever see again,

498
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Speaker 1: and maybe we will, I don't know. Well. I mean,

499
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Speaker 1: when they came out, I posted on Twitter that I

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Speaker 1: thought the mandates were unconstitutional. I got into lots of

501
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Speaker 1: arguments with that. I told people that they shouldn't listen

502
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Speaker 1: to media personalities and that they should concern themselves with

503
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Speaker 1: dealing with their doctor rather than anybody else. There are

504
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: people that are immunal compromised that would have benefited from that.

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Speaker 1: And then there are people, for example, that had a

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Speaker 1: high heart rate, like my friend's mother when she went

507
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Speaker 1: to go get that accident, she went to her doctor

508
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: first and they said, wait a minute, ma'am, you have

509
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Speaker 1: very high blood pressure. This is dangerous. Let's lower your

510
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Speaker 1: blood pressure first. That's what happened. And she was an

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Speaker 1: r N, so she was one of these people that

512
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Speaker 1: had to get vaccinated or lose their job. But now

513
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Speaker 1: this right, but now in court in New York court

514
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Speaker 1: that they've overturned well, like I just saw that they're

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Speaker 1: reinstating all Well before we say that that's not actually

516
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Speaker 1: happening yet There's been an appeal filed by the mayor,

517
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Speaker 1: So the mayor is going to appeal it because I

518
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Speaker 1: saw that they were going to try to pay them

519
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Speaker 1: some bada no, no, no. Just for the people that

520
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Speaker 1: are watching at home, they fought the nine to eleven

521
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Speaker 1: first responders for twenty years. You think that they're going

522
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: to get their pockets tapped by their handful of people. No,

523
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: the city is ruthless. Okay, these people are monsters. These

524
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: are the animals. Like when I say that, my friend

525
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Speaker 1: Aton Edwards, who was on Fox, on NBC, he was

526
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Speaker 1: on all these companies. He's a survivor expert. And when

527
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: he went down and was helping to pull people out

528
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: of the rubble on nine to eleven, he was in

529
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: a full hasmat suit. keV who told me he was

530
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: like and he was yelling at the police officials. He's like, look, dude,

531
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: why are you given these firefighters and cops, these fucking

532
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: shit breathers. Why are you giving them like a fucking

533
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: n nine to five That doesn't help. There's radioactive chemicals

534
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: in the air, Like, there's actual nine to eleven syndrome.

535
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: Now people have this corrosive chemical in their lungs because

536
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: they don't actually have a conversation about what was in

537
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 1: those floors those buildings. Yeahocracy of the politics of it,

538
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a big John Stewart's a

539
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: big proponent of trying to get help to I mean,

540
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: if people maybe have seen some of the viral moments

541
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: of John screaming at politicians, but yeah, it's crazy. It's

542
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: crazy if like you can't take care of the people,

543
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: the biggest tragedy in the history of our country, really,

544
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, how about this. We went on

545
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: a different podcast, America control O, and we brought up

546
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: the fact that there are a lot of deported veterans.

547
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: And I have a lot of my friends that don't

548
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: have papers that say that they're a United States citizen,

549
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: but they have papers that say they're a United States

550
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: Marine and that they served in Iraq and Afghanistan. And

551
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: these guys aren't being deported because they're murderers or rapist kep.

552
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: They're being deported because they fucked up some paperwork or

553
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: because they had a drug addiction. And my stance is,

554
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: regardless of how you feel about immigration, how dare you

555
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: tell a person who stood a post and supposedly serve

556
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: this country for your freedom. Whether you believe that or not.

557
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: Some people say, oh, it was all oil wars. Regardless,

558
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: this man stood a post. And if you can throw

559
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: him out so easily, and you can throw his benefits

560
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: out right, if his missing hand doesn't mean anything, then

561
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: you're missing. I don't mean nothing, Congressman. If his missing

562
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,440
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563
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: missing legs don't mean nothing. Senator, that's the truth. Whether

564
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: it's Democrat or Republican, you have to pay attention to

565
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: the people that have bled for this nation. Because empires

566
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,719
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567
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,600
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568
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,720
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569
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: crazy to say out loud. We have not won I mean,

570
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: we did not win the Afghanistan War. We did not

571
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,000
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572
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,360
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Speaker 1: feel like you're a voice that is needed now more

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Speaker 1: than ever because there's so much muck in the world.

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Speaker 1: There's so much, especially on the hip hop side. Man,

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, I feel like we're missing immortal technique

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Speaker 1: right now. I mean, thank God that I'm coming out

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Speaker 1: with a new record, right yes, thank God that I'm

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Speaker 1: And also, I guess I'll just come out and say

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Speaker 1: it since I've been saying in another podcast, I do

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Speaker 1: some screenwriting now. I do like fixing scripts and people

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Speaker 1: contact me for stuff, and it's been an incredible experience.

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Speaker 1: The only problem with that, Kevin, that when I do writing,

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00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: people can edit the joke if it's too ruthless or

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Speaker 1: what the hell. But that's just to a limit. I

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Speaker 1: that even more so than I ever was before. And then,

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Speaker 1: So I guess for me. One of the best parts

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Speaker 1: about kind of growing with this culture has been to

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Speaker 1: always stay true to the ideals that it first started.

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Speaker 1: We're not here to try to convince people of what

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Speaker 1: it is. We're here to offer you these facts that

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Speaker 1: you have not been presented before. You haven't even seen

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Speaker 1: the evidence. You're basing your opinion on what you've been shown,

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Speaker 1: but not everything else. I think it's hard to divorce

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Speaker 1: people from their politics, keV. It is because their politics

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Speaker 1: is not just politics, it's their entire circle of friends,

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Speaker 1: with the family that they're with, It's who you follow

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, telling youth, telling people to leave your family. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: people have gotten to a point where it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: the morality of the person that's been assigned to it.

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Speaker 1: As long as it's their side, they can find a

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Speaker 1: reason to not hold that person to the same standards

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Speaker 1: as they would somebody else. And at that point, it's

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Speaker 1: just so politicized that there's no moral left in it.

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Speaker 1: It's not like there's a moral compass. There's just like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: imagine if your lawyer your son goes to trial for murder. Right, right,

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Speaker 1: the best lawyer in the world has a fourteen year

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Speaker 1: old wife, and you're like, dude, he's the best lawyer

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Speaker 1: in the world. Though, right, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: That's where we are in politics, and you know, we

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Speaker 1: don't even have a shared history. You saw the governor

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Speaker 1: of Florida get up and say, hey, it's wrong that

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Speaker 1: we're to say that we have stolen land. Yeah, right, literally, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. I was gonna ask you, man, because we're

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Speaker 1: probably It's funny because I remember as a kid how

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Speaker 1: much people did not fuck with George W. Bush at

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Speaker 1: a certain point. I remember, like that Michael Moore shit

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Speaker 1: came out. I forget then it was a bonly nine

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Speaker 1: to eleven or some shit. The first documentary that kind

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Speaker 1: of like was like kind of political. People weren't fucking

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Speaker 1: with Bush, but then there was people who were loving Bush.

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Speaker 1: But now, man, this shit is so crazily divided, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like the pendulum on each side has swung

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Speaker 1: so extreme that like if somebody, like you said, if

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Speaker 1: somebody is just a normal, common sense human being, like

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Speaker 1: you said, like, I feel like I probably I grew

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Speaker 1: up like a Democrat, right, but I feel like more

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Speaker 1: and more I'm just like, maybe I'm just like a

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Speaker 1: independent or a libertarian. I don't know, because, like you said,

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Speaker 1: I'm also very pro Second Amendment. But nowadays, man, it's

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Speaker 1: like everybody and it's probably always been like this, but

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit more magnified these days because of

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Speaker 1: social media. But I just feel like we're in this

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Speaker 1: like weird rut as a country where like everybody is

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Speaker 1: just so standing on whatever this island is and whatever

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Speaker 1: this island's going for at the time, you have to

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Speaker 1: align with all of it or you're on you're over

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Speaker 1: there like I would like I would have. The truth is,

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Speaker 1: if you bring up a good point, Democrats have never

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Speaker 1: fought against Republicans as hard as they fought against the

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Speaker 1: left wing of their own party. Fat that's the God.

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Speaker 1: That's the God's honest truth. And a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that I personally know that started getting closer to trump

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Speaker 1: Ism and to Maga and I listen, this is the God.

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Speaker 1: Listen if you if your feelings get hurt, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: not here to coddle you. A lot of those people

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Speaker 1: were actually Bernie Sanders supporters, and they feel and they

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Speaker 1: feel that the Democratic Party is more corrupt than the

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Speaker 1: Republican Bernie over but they feel like more corrupt. I

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Speaker 1: think when we talk about the war being involved in it.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing where I have to draw a line

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Speaker 1: because Republicans can't hide behind Trump's skirt simply because he

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Speaker 1: didn't start any new wars. He dropped a moab on Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: and after the first eighteen months of his presidency please

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Speaker 1: look it up, the drone strikes started again. However, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't excuse them pushing Democrats to a point where they

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Speaker 1: had to have mister Obama commit a series of war

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Speaker 1: crimes because the drone strikes that he was sending out

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Speaker 1: to Afghanistan were based on metadata. That's why they gave

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Speaker 1: him the name the drone Ranger, right, because those metadatas

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Speaker 1: the metadata literally means a phone or a device, so

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Speaker 1: you're basing it on a phone that this person could have, right,

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Speaker 1: which is why when they exposed the rate of the

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Speaker 1: drone strikes, they found out that it was over eighty

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Speaker 1: and ninety percent the wrong person that they hit. And

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Speaker 1: why did we have to learn that through WikiLeaks? That's

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Speaker 1: just unfair to the people themselves who paid taxes into

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Speaker 1: a system where they believed they were actually fighting a

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Speaker 1: war against people trying to kill us, whereas we knocked

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Speaker 1: over a country that had nothing to do with nine

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Speaker 1: to eleven. Nothing. And then when we get really into detail,

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Speaker 1: remember that lady Sarah Palin and everybody was making fun

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Speaker 1: of her because she couldn't answer what the Bush doctrine was. Listen,

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Speaker 1: the Bush doctrine, ladies and gentlemen, is us knocking over

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Speaker 1: countries in the Middle East that don't follow our hegemonic

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Speaker 1: view of the region. Tell me that mister Obama didn't

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Speaker 1: do that once mister Bush got out of office. Thing.

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Speaker 1: That's the issue that we're facing. We're facing the nakedness

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Speaker 1: of the empire, the mask taken off, the revealing of

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Speaker 1: the fact that we don't actually care if a place

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Speaker 1: is democratic or communist or any of these things. As

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Speaker 1: long as you back the United States of America will

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Speaker 1: give you a pass. In the same way that I

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Speaker 1: online in between black people and Jewish people over what's

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Speaker 1: transpired with Kanye and everything, and I say, the sad

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Speaker 1: part is that if you look at actual conservatives that

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Speaker 1: have said horrible things about Jewish people, they're they're not

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Speaker 1: touched but it's also because they supported the state of

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Speaker 1: Israel in the same sentence. So this complicates the case

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Speaker 1: very much. And I think it's actually damaged the relationship

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Speaker 1: that Black and Jewish people have because they feel like

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Speaker 1: they've been singled out and the other group feels like

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Speaker 1: they've been singled out. I think that more than ever,

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Speaker 1: needs some kind of healing, some kind of reciprocity to understand,

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Speaker 1: because you have an entire group of people who say, well,

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Speaker 1: there's different consequences for us versus that, and that makes

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Speaker 1: people feel like their lives aren't worth the same right.

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Speaker 1: And I think on the other end, you have a

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Speaker 1: in Europe and now they're persecuted here and therefore high

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Speaker 1: up on end. And whether you agree with anything the

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Speaker 1: man said or not, you have legitimate divide in the

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Speaker 1: community now where people are arguing that didn't even have

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00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: a problem with, weren't consciousness to argue before. So, like

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Speaker 1: you said, the political lines are already kind of drawn

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Speaker 1: there for a person if they wanted to crawl into

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Speaker 1: that trench, to then feel comfortable with because they don't

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Speaker 1: have to listen to an opposing opinion. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of echo chambers. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: places where people just hear something repeated. They don't want

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Speaker 1: to hear the truth. They don't want to say, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: Republicans have actually never shrunken the size of government that

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Speaker 1: Democrats have committed war crimes in the past two decades.

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Speaker 1: These are not comfortable topics, but they're true. And that's

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Speaker 1: the reason why I guess people love my music because

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Speaker 1: and because when it comes down to it, I'm not

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Speaker 1: just independent in terms of the music, but I try

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Speaker 1: to be independent here in front of the politics because

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Speaker 1: I realize what's actually happened as a case of this. Now,

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Speaker 1: we could take subject matters independently, right, like immigration, abortion,

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Speaker 1: and we can discuss all these things, of course, but

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Speaker 1: with that comes historical nuance, right when people say, oh, immigrants,

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Speaker 1: who got everything? And I'm like, well, why don't you

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Speaker 1: look up the Homestead Act or the DAWs Act, where

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Speaker 1: this government gave millions of acres to white settlers that

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Speaker 1: just came off a boat from somewhere because you wanted

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Speaker 1: indigenous people to be replaced. We hear a lot from

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Speaker 1: the far right about a white replacement theory, but let's

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Speaker 1: have a conversation about indigenous replacement practice that took place

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Speaker 1: reality of that. Yeah. So I think in many ways,

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Speaker 1: it's not that people are angry at socialism keV. They're

783
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Speaker 1: mad that only rich people have been able to use it,

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Speaker 1: that they got billions of dollars of bailouts, and that

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Speaker 1: nobody who lost their home got any bailing You always say,

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Speaker 1: like socialism, like obviously, I think like I was a

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Speaker 1: Bernie supporter. I donated to his camp. I loved Bernie.

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Speaker 1: I just loved him because he was the most consistent

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Speaker 1: politician I had ever seen. At least he was very

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Speaker 1: honest in the sense that you know, when you heard

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Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton calling him a violent misogynist, everyone was

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Speaker 1: scratching their head, like you talk about your husband, you

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Speaker 1: talk about Bernie, She's wild. What are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: She's She's yeah, Jesus Christ. But I think, but I

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Speaker 1: how many people were understanding that, yes, we do have

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Speaker 1: socialism in this country, socialism for the rich. And I'll

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Speaker 1: give you an example. The first kind of economic experiment

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Speaker 1: failing you. The little kid is out there selling dollar

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Speaker 1: and they're crazy. And another thing, you could buy a

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, which is what the FDA does here

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847
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Speaker 1: happened with the entire COVID shit. It was like the

848
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: doctors who would say, hey, it's not for everybody, or

849
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: they got silenced here, they got taken off Twitter. I

850
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: know there was one guy who was a writer. He

851
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: was just on Joe Rogan recently, who he actually sued

852
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: Twitter because they took him off Twitter. They banned him.

853
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: He's like a writer because he pretty much spoke out

854
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: against the vaccine, just saying, hey, guys, it doesn't cure it.

855
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: They deleted his tweet, they banned him, and he sued

856
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: him because he's that's kind kind of a part of

857
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: his living as a writer, and they had to reinstate

858
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: him and then they had to pay him money. Right, Well,

859
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, his premise was, and I think I know

860
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about. He said, listen, if I'm

861
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: not an anti vaxxer, I I'm propolio for all these

862
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: other things. Yeah, I got the first rounded. But but

863
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: let me just say, honestly, the thing that he brought

864
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: up that's incredibly important that he should never have been

865
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: punished for. He said that it's technically not a vaccine

866
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: because if you take it, then you shouldn't get the virus.

867
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: If you can still get the virus, but for example,

868
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: what they decided to rebrand and say, well, it's not

869
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: that you don't get the virus, it's that you get

870
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: a must much lesser effect. But that's a virus exactly.

871
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: So that's kind of the backfoot that they fell on.

872
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: And that's kind of like what I get when I

873
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: argue with people and they want to try to convert

874
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: me to something, and then I bashed them so hard

875
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: and then they're on the backfoot saying, oh, both sides

876
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: are corrupt. No, that's where you should have started from, brother,

877
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: That's not the position you retreat to. So when I

878
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: discussed these things in terms of like the COVID response,

879
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: that was a big reason why we did the rebel

880
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: army runs. We defied the lockdowns, not out of gratuity,

881
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: not just to be on IG like, oh, we're out

882
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: here when they said we couldn't be. That's not rebellion,

883
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: that's not revolutionariness, that's just you trying to be a

884
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: troll for IG. We actually went out there and when

885
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: we were moving this food and these products, the police

886
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: stopped me before and they said what are you doing?

887
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: And I said, I've become the food program for the

888
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: grant houses. I'm feeding these people. That is what I'm

889
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: supposed to do, isn't it. And the guys like, you're

890
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: wearing like a you're wearing a vest and you have

891
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: a scanner. I said, that's for my own personal amusement.

892
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: And he's like, what are you doing with that today?

893
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: I said, I don't feel like discussing my day, officer,

894
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: but I'm going to be here and I'm going to

895
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: continue to support these people in my community. Oh, by

896
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: the way, you're from the twenty sixth precinct, right, You're

897
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: one of Captain Alexis boys. What if she found out

898
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: that you were trying to cut off the food program

899
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: out of that Deblasio canceled, you know, the Blasio, the

900
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: one that you hate. Right. I know how to talk

901
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: to people. So the guys like, man, you can either

902
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: stop me from doing what I'm supposed to do, brother,

903
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: or you can make sure that we get through to

904
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: these people. And I'm gonna be real. They folded, not

905
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: like oh oh no, like no, they folded like wow,

906
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: I see your point. Cool. So we were out there

907
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: and through all the lockdowns. We started this program in

908
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty, so when this just started, because

909
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: they really announced the pandemic in like February, so late March,

910
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: early April was when we started. And it was me

911
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: and this one tiny little Dominican girl, right and her

912
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: boyfriend would help now and then. But that's what it was.

913
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: So I tell people, listen, you're gonna get yelled at,

914
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,959
Speaker 1: You're gonna have people disagree with you. It's okay. What

915
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: the purpose is is not to force your ideas on

916
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: other people. You let them come to them naturally, You

917
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: present other arguments, and you give them the ability to

918
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: make that decision. I think too many, too many times,

919
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: like we were just talking about, people expect to be

920
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: able to change someone's mind immediately, and people don't work

921
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, if you tell people not to

922
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: do something, it's a perfect way to get them to

923
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: try to do something. That's how human beings are wired.

924
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: And if you if you tell people they have to

925
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: do something, then they don't want to. Well wait a minute, right,

926
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I have to do it. It's my body.

927
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: What the fuck as opposed to like, hey, here's what,

928
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: here's the facts, figure it out one hundred percent. Man.

929
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: But I mean, I look, my mom is a two

930
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: time cancer survivor. So I took it very seriously. Of course,

931
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: like you, I was asked away from it, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

932
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: she was in a nursing home, man, So it was

933
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: obviously a real it's a real thing. I just think that, like,

934
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: there was just so much misinformation that was being fed

935
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: to U. Was on TV every day. It was the

936
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: fear mongering normal ship that it's been happening on the

937
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: media forever. And I feel like so many of the

938
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: voices that were just kind of giving other alternative points

939
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: and actual facts about the vaccine were silenced, and it

940
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: was just like it just like I feel like to

941
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: two years fast forward a lot of that, it's kind

942
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, well maybe if you did catch COVID,

943
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: you really didn't need to get the vaccine. If you're

944
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: a healthy person and you got it, your antibodies are

945
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: going to be stronger, and you you know, if you're

946
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: a younger male, you don't have to worry about the

947
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: risk of mildcard died and all this. But if you

948
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: are a young person and you happen to have anything

949
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: like a breathing issue or asthma, then you're much more

950
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: likely to suffer some of the worst consequences. Right, It's

951
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: like it just depends on your like that. But that's

952
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: my whole point why I told people, hey, don't listen

953
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: to come up with shock jock. Come up, go and

954
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: go to your doctor and get checked out, and say, hey,

955
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: is it okay if I do this or is this wrong?

956
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: And I think what the main issue that I saw

957
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: happened with so many people is that a one, people

958
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: weren't empathetic to people who thought they really needed it,

959
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: and the people who were in need of it had

960
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: no empathy towards the people that were on some like

961
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: holistic medicine stuff, which is something that I'm down with,

962
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's like, okay, you're gonna

963
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: tell me that now because this person wore a mask,

964
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: that they're propagating fascism. Like, Okay, I had an argument

965
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: with a dude, like a friend of mine who's a

966
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: prominent guy in the anti Maxarin and I said, listen, brother,

967
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: didn't take your freedom this time. They already had it

968
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: when you butchered one million of rockies a country that

969
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with nine to eleven. They already

970
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: got your freedom when they sent you to Afghanistan. They

971
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: already got your freedom right when they had you bomb

972
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: Libya and open a slave market there, they already got

973
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: your freedom. What they wanted now with this was something

974
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: totally different. They didn't need to put a microchip in

975
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: the vagazine. You already got the micro chip with this,

976
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: it's in your pocket. But what they did do is

977
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: that exposed something even crazier that Adam Smith and Carl Marx,

978
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: even though they're diametrically opposed sides of communism and capitalism,

979
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: we're both right. There's only two classes. The middle class

980
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: is a farce right, and that's what COVID taught you.

981
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: Because you could be have a nice HOUSEKEV. You have

982
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: a nice car, a job, but you're worth negative six

983
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and a lot of you lost your

984
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: homes during that time, and you realized, oh no, there

985
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,479
Speaker 1: are only two classes. There's the working class, and they're

986
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: the people who control the means of production. And if

987
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: you're not one of these two people, then you think

988
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: you're one in the middle, you're not really one in

989
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: the middle. You're here. See these people know who the

990
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: fuck they are. They don't pay taxes. Their corporation doesn't

991
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: pay taxes. If people want to look up any example

992
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: of that. There's a famous woman from New York called

993
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: Leona Helmsley who owned the Helmsley Building, and she got

994
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: in trouble because for years she paid no taxes like

995
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: all major corporations. Yeah, I mean Google doesn't pay I mean,

996
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: none of these people pay taxes. But she went out

997
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: and said in the media in the New York Times,

998
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: only little people pay taxes. And they had to get

999
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: her because this you can't see such a fucking uproar

1000
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: in New York. They were like little people like you mean,

1001
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: working class people. Because the capitalist system creates food and

1002
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: shelter as commodities, so you're forced to work a forty

1003
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: hour work week instead of venturing to things you would

1004
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: possibly like the fact that, look, if I get an

1005
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: album done and I pay the record label back in

1006
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: a traditional scenario, I don't even keep the intellectual property.

1007
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: That's crazy. If I get a bank a loan for

1008
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: anything else and I pay the loan, bag own the car, everything.

1009
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: The problem is this now people bring up is the

1010
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: house really yours? Because if you don't pay those property

1011
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: taxes that equal the equivalent of the house paid over

1012
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: fifty years, they take the house. Do you ever stop

1013
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: paying for it? Also, like how many people actually finish

1014
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: the thirty year mortgage before they move on to the

1015
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: next thing. Ever, it's like a rotation of fuckery for sure. Man, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Uh you say you're you're dropping new music. Yeah, we

1036
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,000
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1037
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1040
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1041
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1042
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1043
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1044
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1045
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1046
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Speaker 1: I showed up with my best pseudo and I was

1047
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,160
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1048
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,719
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1049
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Speaker 1: H I was walking right to court like what is it?

1050
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Speaker 1: Armie Runs if you want to make a text deductible

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Speaker 1: donation to the charitization. Are you going to the streaming

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Speaker 1: services or are you doing cause you know there's a

1058
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: lot of people who have kind of it's an unfair system.

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Speaker 1: I feel like in terms of like, if you have

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Speaker 1: like a thousand fans, you should be able to make

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00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: real money off your music as opposed to making pennies

1062
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: off your streams, and I know a lot of people

1063
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: are just going straight to consumers these days, whether it's

1064
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Speaker 1: like dropping the CD, dropping a download on your website,

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00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: doing the vinyl thing like howry are you gonna drop it?

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Speaker 1: I guess traditionally in twenty twenty two ways, like on Spotify,

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Speaker 1: on iTunes and all that, or are you gonna do

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Speaker 1: other stuff? I'm still looking at that, But I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think either way presents its own challenges. I know

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Speaker 1: that when I release record that I have to campaign

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Speaker 1: the album right. It's not just like throwing it against

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Speaker 1: the wall. I think also the fact that I've spent

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Speaker 1: so much time working on this album the middle passage

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Speaker 1: that it's incredibly important, the fact that it has the

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Speaker 1: subject matter of pretty much an African genocide. In that sense,

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Speaker 1: I don't have the N word anywhere on the record.

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Speaker 1: It is one of the most scholastically put forth examples

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Speaker 1: of my work. And also I'm gonna show you that

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Speaker 1: even without using certain words, I can be even more ruthless,

1080
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Speaker 1: more brutal, more painful, more gut wrenching, more metaphorically and

1081
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: similarly driven wretchedness that will make you vomit blood than

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Speaker 1: I did before and I'm still that guy, and I'm

1083
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: still here. I'm still down with the immigrants, I'm still

1084
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: down with the Second Amendment. I'm still down with educating

1085
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Speaker 1: my people about how to grow food independently. And you know,

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00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: I appreciate any platform that I'm giving the ability to

1087
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Speaker 1: come and speak. Brother, Yeah, you're a legend. I'm curious

1088
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Speaker 1: earlier you said recipes Chris Dorner. Now I feel like

1089
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: his story and his manifesto, I feel like that's such

1090
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: an interesting topic that doesn't get brought up enough because

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00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: I do feel like it's kind of like depending on

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00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: your perspective on it. I mean, obviously nobody should ever

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00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: condone like people dying and stuff, But I always was

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00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: thinking in my head, I was like, man, I wonder

1095
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: if anybody will ever tackle that topic from like a

1096
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: conceptual way through hip hop, whether it's a record, whether

1097
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: it's telling that story. Maybe I'll keep you in the game.

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00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: I can't throw it for you, Kemp, but we definitely

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Speaker 1: did bring something up like that on the record. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you saying that, yeah, because I feel like you

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Speaker 1: would be the guy to do it. I'm the guy

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Speaker 1: that did it already. Okay, it's coming out. But I mean,

1103
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Speaker 1: like I said, we don't do gratuitous violence. We talk

1104
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Speaker 1: about what it is in terms of what that extright.

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: The fact that people were so scared of him that

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Speaker 1: they decided to shoot other people that weren't even him,

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Speaker 1: the fact that they were like, okay, you actually have

1108
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Speaker 1: documented files and we heard testimony from the city council

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00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: and so many racist things they said. Chris Dorner allegedly

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Speaker 1: had documents and recordings of high level people in the

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Speaker 1: LAPD and government saying things that were probably just as bad,

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Speaker 1: if not worse. So I think that there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of sketch that's around him. There's other people in that

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Speaker 1: are in my proximity that I've had a similar experience

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Speaker 1: with that I'll say, Okay, I went to Penn State

1116
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: University right and around the same time when the sexual

1117
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: molestation allegations were going over against Sandusky that other coaches knew.

1118
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Speaker 1: There was a district attorney who was the district attorney

1119
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Speaker 1: in my case as a matter of fact, when I

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Speaker 1: went to prison. His name was Ray Greekar, and he

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00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: was investigating the Sandusky stuff and guess what he was disappeared.

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Speaker 1: They found his his he's still going. He was he

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00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: was declared missing, like and he's declared dead. You can

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Speaker 1: look his name up ray Greek card g r I

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Speaker 1: c ar. And they found his laptop missing a hard

1126
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Speaker 1: drive in a fucking lake or like in a river,

1127
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: like a little stream, like a mile away from his house.

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Speaker 1: So this guy who was investigating who could have possibly

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Speaker 1: covered up the rape allegations, gave whoever it was cover

1130
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Speaker 1: enough for them to blame only the people who got caught,

1131
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Speaker 1: and none of the giant donors from Penn State who

1132
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Speaker 1: partook it in the circle to it. Hey man, I'm

1133
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Speaker 1: not gonna stop talking about this, So if something happens

1134
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Speaker 1: to me, we all know what it is. That shit's crazy,

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Speaker 1: you know what, man, I do feel like though we

1136
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Speaker 1: are in a I mean, even if it doesn't really matter,

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Speaker 1: I do think that nowadays people are a little bit

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Speaker 1: more skeptical of the information they're given and they try

1139
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Speaker 1: to dig in a little bit under the surface a

1140
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Speaker 1: little bit more then, you know, I feel like that's

1141
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: obviously the Internet's kind of changed a lot of just

1142
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Speaker 1: the way people think. And hopefully, like you said, hopefully

1143
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: people can snap out of this fucking weird tribal like

1144
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: extreme I'm over here or I'm over here, And if

1145
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: you don't agree with me on this, but you agree

1146
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: with me on ten other things, but you don't agree

1147
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: with me on this, it's fuck you. You're over there.

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01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I think the primary basis I have

1149
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: to say is that I'm willing to agree with anybody

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01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: or be able to have that disagreement, as long as

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01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: those disagreements don't infringe on my humanity. I'm just trying

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01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: to take away my humanity. And I think what you

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01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: also bring up is important to say. For all those

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Speaker 1: people that are talking about a civil war, just remember

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Speaker 1: the only winners of a civil war United States will

1156
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Speaker 1: be China and Russia. You'll hand them the planet. Good

1157
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: luck though. That's how we're going to hand the interview.

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Speaker 1: That's right,