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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. I'm your host tonight.

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Speaker 2: My name is Rich Barra, and I like to welcome

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Speaker 2: in Whitley Streeber. Now, he's the author of more than

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Speaker 2: forty not fourteen four zero books, including bestsellers The Wolfen

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Speaker 2: That was a Cool movie, The Hunger, Superstorm in Communion.

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Speaker 2: Communion remains the best selling book on uphone aliens in

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Speaker 2: publishing history. Actually, it's the first book I ever read

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Speaker 2: about UFOs, and his book series Alien Hunter was made

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Speaker 2: into the sci fi series Hunters. He also has a

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Speaker 2: new book titled The Fourth Mind that is due to

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Speaker 2: be published in just a few weeks, and I will

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Speaker 2: be first in line at a bookstore to catch that,

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Speaker 2: won't you. Welcome to Coast to Coast, First time meeting you.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure to meet you, Whitley Streeber. Welcome to Coast to

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Speaker 2: Coast AM. Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I should say, yeah, thanks, it's a pleasure to be

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Speaker 3: talking to you for the first time too.

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Speaker 2: Well, I need you to help me out with something,

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Speaker 2: so as sort of a new cost or to all

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Speaker 2: things politics, I'm curious about the hearings about UFOs that

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Speaker 2: happened over the last few days. And I'm wondering why

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Speaker 2: there hasn't been a ton of publicity after the hearings,

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Speaker 2: and why they're happening right now, just like the week

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Speaker 2: after the election.

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Speaker 4: Can you can you give me a little insight on that.

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Speaker 3: Well, they were scheduled for a week after the election

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Speaker 3: for a reason. The last fourteen administrations, all the way

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Speaker 3: back to Truman, have all stonewalled the whole issue. They've

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Speaker 3: all kept it secret, including the last Trump administration. So

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Speaker 3: is this going to change? This hearing happening now is

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Speaker 3: a shot across the bow of the next administration. It

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Speaker 3: was scheduled before the election, was no the outcome was

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Speaker 3: known to say that con Rus on both sides of

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Speaker 3: the aisle is not going to stop shaking this cage.

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Speaker 3: And that's why it was it happened now. As to

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Speaker 3: the lack of publicity, the media, the general media pretty

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Speaker 3: much goes, well, let me give you an idea how

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Speaker 3: it works when it comes to defense related stories. All

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Speaker 3: the big media have got reporters, Pentagon reporters. These reporters

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Speaker 3: all depend for their livelihoods and to serve their various

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Speaker 3: media outlets on the Pentagon's news handouts, and if you

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Speaker 3: do something that the Pentagon doesn't like, you're not to

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Speaker 3: get that. And therefore they're more or less all beholden,

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Speaker 3: they're all captive, or like the New York Times Julian Barnes,

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Speaker 3: he's not going to say anything that's going to annoy

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Speaker 3: his counterparts of the Pentagon, and they're not going to

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Speaker 3: feed him any more stories. And then what does he

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Speaker 3: have to do. He doesn't have anything to write about.

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Speaker 3: He depends on them, and that dependency is why the

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Speaker 3: media remains silent about this, basically because the Pentagon wants

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Speaker 3: them to.

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Speaker 2: So when so kind of break this down for me.

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Speaker 2: Is there part of the government that knows everything and

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Speaker 2: has since as you say, like the Truman administration and beyond,

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Speaker 2: and then there's the Congress that doesn't know anything and

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Speaker 2: they keep on pushing on that, Hey, if there's something

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Speaker 2: out here that we don't know what it is, shouldn't

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Speaker 2: we know what it is?

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Speaker 4: So is it a the haves and the have nots?

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Speaker 4: In this case, like we know but you.

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Speaker 3: Don't need to know to an extent, it's the haves

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Speaker 3: and have knots. But it is incredibly complicated. This is

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Speaker 3: something that has been the object of intense scrutiny, intense effort,

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Speaker 3: and intense research behind closed doors for eighty years. And

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Speaker 3: believe me, what is behind those doors is big, it's complicated,

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Speaker 3: and in terms of record keeping, it's an absolute mess.

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Speaker 3: The reason is that so much of it is pencils up.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna meet about this, but we're not going to

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Speaker 3: write anything down about it. Nothing to be recorded. Years ago,

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Speaker 3: General Arthur Exon, who it was commandant of Right pat

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Speaker 3: when the debris was first brought in, and worked on

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Speaker 3: this from then until in fact, all of his career.

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Speaker 3: Years ago, he told me that he was still in

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight as an old man, going back to

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Speaker 3: to be a huge problem. This is a fractured history

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Speaker 3: and not only that, a lot of the records after

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Speaker 2: Does it make you wonder? There's probably a little question.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to skip around a little bit with you.

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Speaker 2: So some of the things that we may be seeing,

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Speaker 2: maybe even at the military seeing, could they be things

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Speaker 2: that we've already reverse engineered and we're test flying them

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Speaker 2: but nobody can know about them. Could that be some

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Speaker 3: Reverse engineering is a huge issue that I'm I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I don't want to go into it

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Speaker 3: too deeply. It suffice to say that we've been some

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Speaker 3: countries have been somewhat successful in this area, some but

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Speaker 3: this has absolutely gotten a generator that generates its own gravity.

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Speaker 3: That has happened. We don't have anti gravity yet, right, Well,

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Speaker 3: it's not anti gravity, it's a it's a it's something

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Speaker 3: in effect, a separate universe. And we're not there yet.

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Speaker 3: We don't know how that is done, but we've got

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Speaker 3: some we've made probably some progress. What we have done

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Speaker 3: done this. We have to a degree mastered the ability

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Speaker 3: to use the Earth's magnetic field as a form of lift.

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Speaker 3: Ok But it's not like handy gravity by any means.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when you did you watch some of the

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Speaker 3: From I definitely watch the hearings, and yeah, my takeaway

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Speaker 3: there were some people who weren't there who probably should

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's fair to them to do that,

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Speaker 3: but there are people who need to get up there

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Speaker 4: Because it seems like there's a lot of information.

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Speaker 3: Very messily in all probability.

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Speaker 2: So while I was watching, I saw Lorraine Bobert mentioned

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Speaker 2: from that quickly. Why did that get skipped over so fast?

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Speaker 2: That seems like a really important part of this whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Well, those are the two ACE questions. First of all,

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Speaker 3: there are hybrids out there, and we call them hybrids,

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Speaker 3: but they may not be hybrids, but they are are

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Speaker 3: people who have been born in a non Earth context,

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Speaker 3: what we would describe as non human beings in their

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Speaker 3: early years. These people are for the most part autistic,

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Speaker 3: very autistic, and mute. They cannot speak, but they are

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Speaker 3: fluently telepathic, and this is going to be a major

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Speaker 3: issue because this telepathy spreads. We are all potentially telepathic,

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Speaker 3: be turned on. If you were to get into a

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Speaker 3: who are not in any way connected with any hybridization

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Speaker 3: are telepathic networks spreading rapidly around the world that are

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Speaker 3: And they are primarily right now concentrated among autistic people.

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Speaker 3: And these apparent hybrids are not as participated in it too.

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Speaker 3: And it's a very it's a good community. There's nothing

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Speaker 3: I don't know how far it and spread, but it could.

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Speaker 3: It could eventually involve all of mankind. I don't know

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Speaker 3: why not. There's no there's nothing wrong with anybody here.

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Speaker 3: We could all be part of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, if that's true, let me see if I can

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Speaker 2: advance your theory a little bit and ask you maybe

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Speaker 2: a direct indirect question. So could all of our reverse

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Speaker 3: And it won't be telepathy that makes them fly. It

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Speaker 3: will also not be a power source. It's going to

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Speaker 3: you're going to do it with yourself. You're you're the

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Speaker 3: You're the power source, your mind is, and the little

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Speaker 3: gray people are very proficient at that. And that's why

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Speaker 3: when we found these things back in the forties and fifties,

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Speaker 4: That's an entirely different math problem.

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Speaker 3: So that a great way of putting it away.

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Speaker 2: For people who haven't heard you on the show before,

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Speaker 2: I know you've been a long time guest, but your

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Speaker 4: Was like for you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it was not fun. I woke up. I had,

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Speaker 3: first of all, understand this at that point in my life,

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Speaker 3: about flying saucers and UFOs in years, not since the

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Speaker 3: fifties when I was growing up, and of course they

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Speaker 3: gone for good. So December the twenty sixth, nineteen eighty fifth,

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Speaker 3: and now you're awake, and now you're back in your bedroom.

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Speaker 3: Only that was not the case. I was not back

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Speaker 3: which I'm sick of talking about, frankly, because my rape

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Speaker 3: You're going crazy. You had a psychotic episode. Eventually, because

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Speaker 3: as he put it, you have a You've been injured directly,

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Speaker 3: been not raped, but I had been raped. I mean

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Speaker 3: I had been injured by a violent intrusion that was

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Speaker 3: intended to cause an ejaculation, which it did, and they

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Speaker 3: had really had not a psychotic episode, but a very

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Speaker 3: to meet Bud Hopkins through a book I read that

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Speaker 3: my brother had given me for Christmas called Science and

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Speaker 3: the UFOs, and I went to him with my wife,

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Speaker 3: and he said that I'd been affected by aliens, and

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Speaker 3: I thought to myself, Dear, this isn't helping.

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