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Speaker 1: You're Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 2: Bang Bang Aten Gang.

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Speaker 3: From Radio Row in Las Vegas, Nevada's Around the NFL

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl Week Show three of four. On our final

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Speaker 3: show from Radio Row. As we head into the weekend

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Speaker 3: and then the biggest football game of the year, Dan

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Speaker 3: Hans is here with the heroes, Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 3: and yes, we got another great show coming up. Great guests,

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Speaker 3: great conversations, go over NFL honors, the Hall of Fame announcements,

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Speaker 3: make our game predictions, some sandwiches on the line.

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Speaker 2: Let's have some fun last.

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Speaker 3: Show of the week before Super Bowl fifty eight kicks off.

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Speaker 2: No, fine, we'll be had. We are serious football people.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we are.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like Greg when we drove by the pinball

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Speaker 3: museum and he's like, wait, what's pinball?

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Speaker 2: Were definitely born planet, but Greg, but that was stunning

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Speaker 2: to me. Hemans will know. My brain just wasn't working.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking candle like it was a different version

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Speaker 4: of candlepin bowling because it looked like a bowling alley or.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, what the hell, let's not lose

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Speaker 3: the site that there is an actual pinball museum.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is I think there could be some cool

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Speaker 2: items in there.

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Speaker 5: We're talking like nineteen seventy two pinball machine where the.

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Speaker 2: Gen xers are definitely feeling the pinball. I'm I'm not

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Speaker 2: rushing over there, but I think it might have some charm.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: It is sad that the pinball has lost its cultural cachet,

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Speaker 3: but the museum is here for those who are still.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is. How are you feeling, Mark? How are we?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: I am just here to do like what I could

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Speaker 2: do the best I can. No, I'm not.

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Speaker 5: It's like it's it's it's it's a lost super Bowl level.

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Speaker 5: But because I I don't think I've seen Las Vegas

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Speaker 5: at all. I feel I've been in my hotel room

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Speaker 5: and then wheeled over to this facility and then we'll.

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Speaker 3: Have to taking Mark to the set in a wheelchair.

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Speaker 3: People should know that the full story of what's happening here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we Uh, Dan and I did you know they

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Speaker 4: rarely tried bang bang? Last night, two dinners both you know,

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Speaker 4: great great company, A six o'clock dinner with our producer

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Speaker 4: Eric and uh and our great friend Matt Casey from NBC.

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Speaker 4: And then when we're on our way to the second

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Speaker 4: dinner where we're going to see a handsome Hank and

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Speaker 4: our friend Connor or we actually saw a young man

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Speaker 4: wearing His name is Will Soystrom, and uh Will was

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Speaker 4: wearing a sweatshirt with our faces on it, the old

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Speaker 4: Room full of Heroes sweatshirt that someone had like sort

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Speaker 4: of illegally made and sold on our having.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, it's good to it's all.

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Speaker 3: It'd be nice if we made a dollar of merch

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Speaker 3: income at some point in our career, but that's.

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Speaker 2: Not Will's fault.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 4: The fact he was repping repping us and we just

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Speaker 4: walked by him in the casino is an amazing.

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Speaker 3: Like everybody's minds were appropriately blown, but just the happenstance

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Speaker 2: And then he was like, where's Mark And we're like, well,

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Speaker 2: Mark's under the weather.

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Speaker 5: He was, well, I always whenever anything happened, there's an

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Speaker 5: air of disappointment from Dan and Greg and I think

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Speaker 5: they've been vaguely don't believe that I've been ill, but

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Speaker 5: I've been hotel room the entire We believe you.

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Speaker 2: I am, I believe you. It's been an odd week.

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Speaker 2: I have I.

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Speaker 5: Floor though, and I've had an incredible view of what's

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Speaker 2: It's a surreal sight.

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Speaker 3: That that that meeting, a chance meeting, is right there

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Speaker 3: with me too. A couple of years ago when we

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Speaker 3: were walking through the streets of London and not a

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Speaker 3: young man, a young bloke was walking towards us, and

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Speaker 3: he stops in his tracks. He pulls his AirPods out

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Speaker 3: and he just doesn't say where, he just points at

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Speaker 3: him and he goes, I'm listening to you Mite, which

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Speaker 3: is pretty tribute to So it's very cool to see

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Speaker 3: and we have over the course of this week people

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Speaker 3: have been, uh coming up to us. Yesterday at dinner

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Speaker 3: there's a jr VP fan and somebody came up and said,

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Speaker 3: once throwback podcast coming back? So all the satellite what

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Speaker 3: about our Bang Bang two? Mark featured the great Connor

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Speaker 3: or Yes and handsome Hank right, and now now the

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Speaker 3: only question is does the Heat and Light podcast return?

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Speaker 5: We get questions about that, either individually or combined on

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Speaker 5: a I would say a if not weekly three or

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Speaker 2: Twitter, and there's some people out there that want it.

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Speaker 5: I think it's you know, we ran into tech issues

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Speaker 5: last time. Those have been wiped away, and I think

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Speaker 5: Connor and I are more free now.

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Speaker 2: You guys are on an amazing platform.

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Speaker 3: I remember that we literally had a meeting with the

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Speaker 3: great people of iHeart earlier this week and like, if

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Speaker 3: you guys have any ideas to do a show, like,

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Speaker 3: we'd love to do one with you.

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Speaker 2: I could see it coming back. I mean, Connor and

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Speaker 2: I want to you want to leave a heating light

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Speaker 2: of water, but can you make a drink?

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Speaker 5: It's like, do you want to do the sequel to

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Speaker 5: something twenty five years later? The fans wanted, like that's

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Speaker 5: what that's what we're.

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Speaker 3: Working for, the Phantom Menace heat too, not a little

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Speaker 3: bit of heat too? All right, so good stuff, great stuff.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's get into it. Let's start with everything that

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Speaker 3: went down here in Vegas at the annual NFL Honors

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Speaker 3: Award Awards, in which they you know, make all the announcements.

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Speaker 2: Prince Harry was in the house. How about that thank

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Speaker 2: you on his job.

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Speaker 5: I think that was the news of the week to me,

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Speaker 5: is that Prince Harry is being, you know, tugged from

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Speaker 3: Hank the guy was like fourteenth in line for the throne,

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Speaker 3: and now he's like one of the biggest celebrities in

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Speaker 3: his life. There's something to take out of that. Perhaps,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, let's get into it. I don't have

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Speaker 3: a pro or anti Harry stance. I'm just pointing out

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Speaker 3: accepting the Walter Payton Award and he's like, the first

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Speaker 2: Is that's freaking Prince Harry. It was really threaded a needle.

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Speaker 2: I guess this is the crazy moment.

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Speaker 4: It definitely like jumped up the star power for NFL Honors, Henry.

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Speaker 3: I would think God at least a twenty percent raise. Look,

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Speaker 3: Chris Berman is.

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Speaker 2: Oh, shaking hand away over there, glad ending the big

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Speaker 3: We have reached the stage in the Super Bowl week

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Speaker 3: where the splash page on ESPN dot com is Chris

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Speaker 3: Berman picks the winner super Bowl fifty eight. So that's

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Speaker 3: where we're at now, all right, it's time. Don't get impatient.

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Speaker 3: Greg's the journey. I just mean that, that's like, what

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Speaker 3: are we doing here? Yeah, make a big deal of

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Well, like we're gonna do in just a bit, We're

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Speaker 3: gonna make our picks. But let's start with NFL Honors.

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Speaker 3: And obviously the big award is NFL MVP. And this

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Speaker 3: It really came down to was he gonna win unanimously?

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Speaker 3: He did not, but he got forty nine of the

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Speaker 3: a distant second place with fifteen points, Lamar forty nine,

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Speaker 3: CMC with fourteen, Your boy Mark Brock finished with nine.

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Speaker 3: So that was the voting. And here was Lamar on

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Speaker 6: I'd rather signing a video to except the award if

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Speaker 6: I was waining. You know that it was great players

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Speaker 6: who was nominating as will not just himself and the

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Speaker 6: for four teams as well, you know, just to get

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Speaker 6: but I rather would have been in the super vote.

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Speaker 6: Except the war it's all doing, you know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like just enough time has passed where it's

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Speaker 3: not weird for him to be on the stage after

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Speaker 3: blowing the AFC title game.

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Speaker 2: So that's good for the lam Army.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's happened a lot in NFL history that these

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Speaker 4: NFL MVPs accept the award after a crushing playoff disappointment.

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Speaker 4: Actually it happened Wonky. Yeah. I believe Patrick Mahomes that

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Speaker 4: Championship Game as a starter his first one, same thing happened.

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Speaker 4: It's happened a number of times, and it is awkward,

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Speaker 4: but you're able. I think he's able to appreciate it

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Speaker 2: Just like that.

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Speaker 4: It was such a blowout to me. I guess it

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Speaker 4: a very strange MVP year that Lamar would have been

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Speaker 2: So he was a deserving winner.

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Speaker 4: I think he was the right pick for this year,

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Speaker 4: but it wasn't a year like where the last few years.

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Speaker 4: I think the second or third place, like Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 4: his twenty twenty two season would have won this, Josh

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Speaker 4: And there just wasn't one of those seasons this year,

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Speaker 4: and Lamar was the best of the options.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think they there was the way the

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Speaker 5: the next week that guy got knocked out by someone else,

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Speaker 5: and like Lamar kind of was on top of the

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Speaker 5: happens in the postseason, it's not supposed to matter in

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Speaker 5: terms of MVP Quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year, but I would rather we

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Speaker 5: There is something awkward to me to have the MVP

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Speaker 5: be someone this is just me who completely blew it

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Speaker 5: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It's a little It's a regular season award though, that's.

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Speaker 1: Just that's just what it is.

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Speaker 5: I guess it should be because otherwise it's gonna just

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Speaker 3: But so here's the thing, I think, Well, it's not

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Speaker 3: it would have been weirder had Dak Prescott got up.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's not nineteen eighty two and the kicker for Washington winning, Right, there's.

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Speaker 7: Been this one.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're going to look back and while

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Speaker 3: we're not going to disagree that Lamar should have won,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be like, wow, he kind of this is

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Speaker 3: not that he was lucky, but it's like.

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Speaker 1: Good year to be here.

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Speaker 2: To look at his numbers. He didn't have his best

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Speaker 3: He was middle of the pack and touchdown passes and

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Speaker 2: I don't know people will remember that though.

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Speaker 4: It's like when Palama There's been some Defensive Player of

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Speaker 2: I think with the Palamala year, one of the.

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Speaker 4: I found the voting interesting. I believe it was Aaron

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Speaker 2: He came in fifth. Overall. I thought there would be

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Speaker 2: And I heard Stephen A. Smith just railing against whoever

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Speaker 2: it's a disgrace. No, like Josh Allen had Eric. I

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Speaker 3: He had a big time year with like a lot

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Speaker 3: Show speaking of well, maybe you would feel differently, Mark

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Speaker 5: know what, he earned it absolutely for regular season navigation

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Speaker 2: He's won it twice.

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Speaker 5: There is a pretty short list of coaches, and it's

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Speaker 5: So I Thinkkevin Stefanski is a good coach. He stands

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Speaker 4: Because he was a little bit on the hot seat

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Speaker 5: Right, it's fitting. It's fitting that it was tied. I

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Speaker 2: But it's crazy. Every vote matters.

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Speaker 4: Five people left Stefanski off their ballots entirely. You vote

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Speaker 2: So even though had more of those guys off your ballot, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't even think that's that crazy too, because like Dan

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Speaker 2: And then deep deep I mean, but I'll use someone

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Speaker 3: Come on, I'll use as the example. Yeah, if one

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Speaker 2: Well, no, it wasn't wonky at all.

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Speaker 5: It's just that I think that the vote to me

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Speaker 5: is always ridiculous because just because Kyle Shanahan's been good

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Speaker 1: He came in four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he came in fourth. Thirteen car which has got

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Speaker 4: Which is I can't remember if any voting awards Sean

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Speaker 4: McDermott for that inspirational speech that galvanized his team to

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, the speech was years ago, but it's still yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I'm cool though with Stefanski winning Coach of the Year,

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Speaker 3: Flacco winning Comeback by the Year is wild. We're at

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Speaker 3: So Flacco gets it after starting five games, winning four

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Speaker 3: We've gotten to know Flack over the years. He's a

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Speaker 2: It feels kind of strange.

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Speaker 2: But man, he's a special two months.

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Speaker 1: So I think anytime that you get recognized for playing

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Speaker 3: So Flacco takes that award. Let's keep moving. Offensive Player

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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey takes that well earned. He was a monster,

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Speaker 3: Another very close vote was Defensive Player of the Year

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Speaker 3: Miles Garrett edges Maker Parson TJ.

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Speaker 5: That was twenty three from Miles Garrett, nineteen for Watt.

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Speaker 2: And even closer because walk up more.

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Speaker 4: The second and third place votes matter a lot, So

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Speaker 3: And then ap Offensive Rookie of the Year. This is

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Speaker 2: He had two first place votes. Yeah, you had to

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Speaker 3: Yes, Stroud deserves that, even not taking into account that

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Speaker 4: Well, the Will Anderson Defensive Player of the Year vote

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Speaker 4: He's got fourteen place votes, But it was the second

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Speaker 5: I would say, like I've heard it's like put out there,

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Speaker 2: But I know, but I like I'm saying they could

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of people must have really the flaccos

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Speaker 3: I thought Baker deserved it more than Flakka for what

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Speaker 4: Baker came in third, and this just reminds me of

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Speaker 8: This morning, I was feeling pretty dangerous.

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Speaker 4: Because eight people Damar Hamlin actually got eight more first

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Speaker 4: Eight people left Damar Hamlin off their bouts entirely. Now,

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Speaker 2: A big season's gotten him.

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Speaker 4: Trust me, not every not all fifty voters are like

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Speaker 2: I think the cynical.

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Speaker 3: the field and face almost that fear of after what happened.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a coming, right.

444
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Speaker 5: But it's also the kind of thing where it doesn't

445
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Speaker 5: like turn Joe Flacco into the villain in this exercise nod.

446
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Speaker 4: You know, he felt awkward about it and said as

447
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Speaker 4: much because he was like, I don't even know, like

448
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Speaker 4: what this be.

449
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Speaker 2: Like he gets it.

450
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Speaker 4: It's like Phil Rivers said the same thing when he

451
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Speaker 4: was coming back from nothing and won the word. He

452
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Speaker 4: came back from a bad season where he was just like, Okay,

453
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Speaker 4: Ryan Tannehill that's still my favorite, had a similar one

454
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Speaker 4: and the last awards they I just would want to say,

455
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, it's very nebulous, calm down, TJ. Watt

456
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Speaker 4: and Steelers fans, you want a Defensive Player of the

457
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Speaker 4: Year award before.

458
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Speaker 2: They were such a hard on for TJ. Watt? What

459
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Speaker 2: do you mean? You just always got to get him?

460
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Speaker 2: I feel like, but there just gets so mad, like

461
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 2: so fired up.

462
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Speaker 4: As if the top four candidates, and I would include

463
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Speaker 4: Crosby in this who came in fourth, in Parsons, who

464
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 4: came in a distant third, you were splitting hairs to

465
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Speaker 4: pick between any of the four of them. So you really,

466
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Speaker 4: I don't think you can feel that like crazy that

467
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Speaker 4: anyone would get robbed here.

468
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Speaker 2: It made sense to me that Garrett won it.

469
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Speaker 5: A great sight of the night was calling Wolfe interviewing

470
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Speaker 5: Joe Flacco before the awards, and he was towering over

471
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Speaker 5: by what seemed to be like a foot and a half,

472
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Speaker 5: and she mentioned that she was already in six inch

473
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Speaker 5: heels and she just was like looking up at him

474
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Speaker 5: like she would add a skyscraper, sneaky tall man.

475
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Speaker 4: My image also with Flakaumember from the night is that

476
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Speaker 4: there's a clip of Lamar putting his arm around like

477
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Speaker 4: that Blacko's shoulder and then he put his head on

478
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Speaker 4: his other shoulder like it was he was like Joe

479
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 4: Flacco's young child. So that's that's nice to see. After

480
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Speaker 4: there were some reports of them being quite prickly with.

481
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Speaker 3: The jo like to be a Ravens quarterback who steps

482
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Speaker 3: up in the playoffs. Tell me more, show me the path. Sorry,

483
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Speaker 3: Greg took Joe a while too, right, Joe, listen, Joe,

484
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Speaker 3: I remember this Super Bowl year, fifth year, well it

485
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Speaker 3: was his fifth year they'd made the play. Remember him

486
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Speaker 3: playing lights out in Foxboro a year or two later

487
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Speaker 3: and that a great comeback by the Pats.

488
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Speaker 2: He was a big time January performer.

489
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Speaker 3: All right, let's uh, let's pivot and talk a little

490
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Speaker 3: Hall of fame.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

492
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Speaker 3: Uh well, let's start a Super Bowl week after all

493
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Speaker 3: with a great super Bowl memory of the Aughts and

494
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Speaker 3: the Colts have had a hard time all season covering kicks.

495
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Speaker 3: It's Hester trying to work it back to the middle,

496
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Speaker 3: gets past.

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Speaker 2: The first raven. Here he goes. That's Hester and signed

498
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Speaker 2: the thirty. Hester's gonna take.

499
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Speaker 4: It over the way for a touchdown and no flag

500
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Speaker 4: ninety two yards.

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Speaker 3: Listen, it's hearing Jim Nantzer without romogon hod Jim. That

502
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Speaker 3: was Devin Hester Hester super Bowl forty one. I call

503
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Speaker 3: it the Prince super Bowl in Miami, the heavily favorite

504
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Speaker 3: Colts against the Bears.

505
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Speaker 2: And that was the highlight. Ooh, it was the highlight

506
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Speaker 2: on that night for the Bears.

507
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Speaker 3: The opening kickoff in an eventual Indianapolis win Devin Hester.

508
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Speaker 3: And it's interesting, it's kind of fun now with as

509
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Speaker 3: we get older and seeing these guys that you remember

510
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Speaker 3: when they came into the league now getting into the

511
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame after watching their whole career Devin hester

512
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Speaker 3: Is in the class of twenty twenty four, joining him

513
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Speaker 3: Dwight Freeney, Andre Johnson, Julius Peppers, Patrick Willis, and then

514
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Speaker 3: in the Senior Committee class getting in as a Randy

515
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Speaker 3: gratischar and Steve McMichael former Bears. Great, great crew, all

516
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Speaker 3: deserving who jumps out to you on that one great

517
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Speaker 3: of that list.

518
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Speaker 4: I'm thrilled to see Andre Johnson and Julius Peppers get in.

519
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Speaker 4: It's a great reminder, especially with Peppers, to just wait

520
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 4: a little bit, wait a little bit to evaluate these careers.

521
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Speaker 4: And when I was mentioning Flacco before I was thinking

522
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Speaker 4: about I think it was his first three years he

523
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Speaker 4: had like one touchdown, eight seven interceptions, and they were

524
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Speaker 4: really getting on it.

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Speaker 2: You get it, Lamar Jackson. No, no, no, no.

526
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Speaker 4: I just meant like people were killing flac Oh for

527
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Speaker 4: not being a playoff performer for years, and then it

528
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Speaker 4: actually flipped the entire way, and Julius Peppers to me,

529
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Speaker 4: was picked on for years of maybe not living up

530
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Speaker 4: to his.

531
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Speaker 2: Like draft value. Like people have totally memory hold this.

532
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Speaker 4: They're like, well, he's so talented, but he really doesn't

533
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Speaker 4: play that hard. And it was like just people who

534
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Speaker 4: were kind of making vaguely racist comments about a guy

535
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Speaker 4: who's extremely low key. And sometimes you have to really

536
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Speaker 4: watch I think the film to appreciate and appreciate his

537
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 4: consistency that it got better and better and better, and

538
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: and he made things look easy.

539
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Speaker 2: And he was a guy who I think got in.

540
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Speaker 4: In part because he had such a long career of

541
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Speaker 4: sustained excellence. But for the first five or six years

542
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 4: of his career, where he was still very good, he

543
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 4: got picked on and people were using the B word

544
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Speaker 4: around him. And he's literally a Hall of Famer a

545
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Speaker 4: and so it's really cool to see him get in.

546
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Speaker 2: This beward the bust word, I don't know, I called

547
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Speaker 2: the bet. Yeah. I love this.

548
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Speaker 4: Class because this is the first. Like, I just think

549
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Speaker 4: it's like a cool class. Aren't all these players cool?

550
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's like we covered big chunks of their careers.

551
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Speaker 5: Like Devin Hester obviously stands out different that you will

552
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 5: never have a player like him getting into the Hall

553
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Speaker 5: of Fame ever again, assuming the NFL keeps the rules

554
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Speaker 5: as they are for Kinnick and punt returns, it just

555
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 5: will never happen. It's like that that element and the

556
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 5: danger that he presented. Will has gone away in the NFL.

557
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 5: I everyone always sort of brushes over the senior entries.

558
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Speaker 5: But Steve McMichael, I think, was the first football card

559
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Speaker 5: I ever had, and was a member of that eighty

560
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 5: five Bears team and was a long haired, angry, like

561
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Speaker 5: jury driven linebacker who sometimes because you had Mike Singletary

562
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 5: in there in a couple O's Ron Rivera gets a

563
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Speaker 5: little bit forgotten.

564
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Speaker 2: He was as badass as it gets.

565
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Speaker 5: And right now he's battling als, and I know he's

566
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Speaker 5: going through a lot, But like he was like a

567
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Speaker 5: mid eighties and he played a lot longer than that

568
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 5: Bears team, but he was a mid eighties fire starter

569
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Speaker 5: and an unforgettable if you watched him.

570
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Speaker 3: Andre Johnson is one of the one of the more

571
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Speaker 3: dominant players of his era, and good to see him

572
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Speaker 3: get in some of the guys as they get older,

573
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Speaker 3: and that was the case with the Johnson's last three years.

574
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Speaker 3: He was in decline as a player, and you know,

575
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: bounced around a little bit, went to Indianapolis, even was

576
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: in Tennessee at the very end. But those prime years,

577
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 3: those peak years with Houston, he was just locking in.

578
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: He was a first first team All Pro twice, second

579
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Speaker 3: team All Pro twice, and kind of like the lynchpin

580
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: of that offense and that JJ Watt years. He was

581
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: the star on the other side of the ball, the

582
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Speaker 3: consistent guy, and well deserved for him as well.

583
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Speaker 2: I think Patrick Willis was essentially a perfect player.

584
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Speaker 5: He didn't have as long of a career as some

585
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 5: of these guys, but like was a perfect player, right.

586
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Speaker 4: I love that he got in because to me, he's

587
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 4: a little bit like Terrell Davis, where the first five

588
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 4: years of his career he was the defining inside slash

589
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 4: middle linebacker of those five or six years and then

590
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 4: he got hurt and it was kind of it. It

591
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 4: was really six years, And I think that's to me

592
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 4: more worthy of a Hall of Fame induction, that you're

593
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Speaker 4: dominant for a six years, six years a long time

594
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 4: in the NFL than some of the compilers that get in.

595
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 4: So to me, he's a particular type that I'm glad

596
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: got in. I just like this is actually the first

597
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 4: class where I started doing NFL covering it in two

598
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Speaker 4: thousand and three. I feel like I did pretty much

599
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 4: see all of all of these guys careers free Andy

600
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 4: started just a bit before, same with Peppers, and it's

601
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Speaker 4: just I don't know, it's badass to see. But it's

602
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 4: also crazy to me that Antonio Gates is not on

603
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: this list, because I don't want to do the thing

604
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 4: where you just say it's crazy he didn't make it.

605
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 4: Who would you take out over him? Hester, to me

606
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: would be the obvious one, but I would actually put

607
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Speaker 4: Gates over all of them. And I actually think if

608
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Speaker 4: you had asked everyone in twenty ten and you gave

609
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Speaker 4: them this list, who's the biggest lock of the Hall

610
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 4: of Fame here? I think Antonio Gates would have been

611
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Speaker 4: your answer. And I do think he's getting punished a

612
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 4: little bit for being on the Chargers, and some of

613
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: it's just timing, but he won First team All Pro

614
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: three straight times over Tony Gonzalez. In his peak, he

615
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 4: has forty more touchdowns than Travis Kelsey does. He's the

616
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Speaker 4: all time leader in touchdowns at his position. He has

617
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Speaker 4: about thirty something more than Gronk does. Like at the time,

618
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: he's one of the there was strong arguments that he's

619
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 4: the greatest tight end of all the time. So I

620
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: hate knocking it out, but Hester is just a weird

621
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Speaker 4: one because Hester only made three or four Pro Bowls

622
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Speaker 4: like he I think he deserves to get in and

623
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Speaker 4: maybe and I think it's just a timing thing.

624
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Speaker 2: Gates will get and eventually.

625
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: His chemistry with Rivers was unbelievable. And here's the thing

626
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: with him, injuries just really kind of held him back.

627
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: He played forever, but he remember, he's always battling those

628
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: foot issues.

629
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Speaker 2: And when you.

630
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Speaker 3: Look back at his stats, he was always a red

631
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Speaker 3: zone stud. As you mentioned the touchdowns one hundred and sixteen.

632
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: He just had two one thousand yard seasons. Now, I

633
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: know it's a different, but it's a different I'm just

634
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: saying the injuries. He missed a lot of games in

635
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 3: his career. But to go if you if you're a

636
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: player who goes first team All Pro is big time,

637
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: and he did it three years in a row, and

638
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: then six he was either first team or second team.

639
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: So I feel like this is the case I make

640
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: for Don Mattingly, my hero growing up in baseball. A

641
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: shorter prime that's truncated by injury. But if you are

642
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: a face of the league in a dominant presence over

643
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: the course of a decade like that should be given extra,

644
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: so I'm with you. He'll get get in. He'll get

645
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: it's hard to get I'll be all right. And we

646
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: saw him by the way we were getting coffees. I

647
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: know it was you did saying to him.

648
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: I had just got on a little Twitter rant because

649
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: it annoyed me because I was such a fan. I

650
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: think he's maybe the greatest receiving titand I've ever seen.

651
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Speaker 2: You just have to compare between eras. But I did

652
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: not say anything. You should have showed him your little tweets. Well,

653
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: he's annoyed. I mean, he's actually disappointed that you're in

654
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: his camp. Though that would be clear, you know.

655
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Speaker 3: Sure, first step ever, and we're gonna have Cam Jordan

656
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Speaker 3: on it a little bit. And Cam Jordan is right

657
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: behind Freanie in the sack record. He's in the top

658
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Speaker 3: twenty and sometimes in that. And I said it on

659
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Speaker 3: the pod recently. The best rivalry, the two best rivalries

660
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: Cowboys Niners in the nineties since I've been watching football,

661
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Speaker 3: and Pat's Colts in the two thousands, and the Peyton

662
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: and Brady It sucked up all the oxygen. But Freenye

663
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: was one of the guys, one of the guys the

664
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Speaker 3: dudes on Indianapolis that made that whole team go. And

665
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: he was a consistent force in their front seven. And

666
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: they don't win titles and have that run of success

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00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: without him.

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Speaker 2: So also well earned. And he's in the top twenty.

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Speaker 4: All times, right, and he's the guy that was getting

670
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 4: like Defensive Player of the Year second third. Like that's

671
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: the difference between him and like a Willis who was

672
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Speaker 4: really great at his position.

673
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: But he was.

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Speaker 4: Another one who was really dominant and had a nice

675
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: little run too. I remember him ever and him in

676
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Speaker 4: the twenty eight to three Falcons team. He had a

677
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 4: nice little rebound season. I was kind of a team

678
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Speaker 4: leader for them.

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Speaker 2: Mark, do you want to add anything on the final

680
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: Veterans Committee, I'm gonna I'm gonna scour that.

681
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Speaker 3: He did well, he said Steve mcnichel. But there's also

682
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Speaker 3: Randy Gratishar. We can't leave Randy at.

683
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Speaker 5: Bradishar was I believe Denver Broncos like during the Orange

684
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: Crush era, that's before my time, So I kind of

685
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Speaker 5: stay away from giving first hand knowledge about players that

686
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Speaker 5: I was during.

687
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: I was essentially a toddler, having the runway in case

688
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Speaker 3: you had something in there.

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Speaker 5: I think it's you know, actually my only commentary. It's

690
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 5: kind of sad for me when it's great that they

691
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 5: get in, but sometimes they're they're not alive anymore or there.

692
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 5: It's so far away that people he's a glance over

693
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 5: it and don't really like understand what their career was.

694
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 5: It's like, I don't know how we do this with

695
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame, where some of these guys like get

696
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: in and celebrated a little bit earlier.

697
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: If you're on the bubble that long, it feels like

698
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: a rough ride.

699
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: I immediately think about speeches too. With these guys, I

700
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: feel like this is a a good crew. I feel

701
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 4: like Willis is going to bring some fire. Who else

702
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: we got.

703
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: Well, I'm doing a little gradishar here. He is the

704
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: heart of the Orange Crush defense. He's the all time

705
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: leading tackler for the Denver Broncos. He's the nineteen seventy

706
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: eight defensive Player of the Year. So went to the

707
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: shadow shoudow all right?

708
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Anything else? All right, let's wrap this up. Good conversation,

709
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Speaker 2: that's what's happening in the news. Let's take a break

710
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: and we'll welcome our first guest.

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Speaker 8: We'll be right back.

712
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 2: But our next guest is he's a dude. Let's start there.

713
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: He's a dude. He's also a.

714
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: Part of the NFL Media podcast network. He's also a

715
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: stud defender for the New Orleans Saints.

716
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: You know who I'm talking about, Cameron Jordan. Welcome to

717
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: Around the NFL, buddy.

718
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys having me on. I mean the

719
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: intro music dropped and I was like, oh, no, I

720
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. Welcome to the twilight Zone.

721
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: So that's okay. So twilight Zone.

722
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: It's always a good test, Like how the guests here

723
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: what that song is.

724
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: So there's a bit of a sci fi vibe.

725
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was quite eerie until the guitar started stringing.

726
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: You know, yes, I always found it.

727
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: It's nineteen eighty eight cop driving back to his apartment

728
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: after his partner just got shot.

729
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah he's down and out. Yeah that makes it.

730
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense.

731
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Speaker 3: Ye, Cam, here's a little full circle moment. We've been

732
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: doing this podcast for eleven years now. I'm getting emotional

733
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: about it. And before the podcast started, we worked and

734
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: just wrote for NFL dot Com. When you were drafted

735
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: into the league, you came to the old Culver City

736
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: Studios and in the green room a young journo Dan

737
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: Hanss met with a rookie and the third person cover

738
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: since he got the last contract, and I remember we

739
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: had a nice conversation. I wrote up the piece that

740
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: I remember talking about your dad Steve and watching the

741
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: Mister Perfect video years ago in w w AT and

742
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: now here you are, like.

743
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, you're Hall of Famer. I think you are.

744
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: You're the all time sack leader of the Saints.

745
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: You're you're in the atn Era, one of the greats yeah,

746
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: one of.

747
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 5: The greatst store and you are in outshine Jordan Cameron,

748
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 5: who you were mistaken for on that that.

749
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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on. In two thousand eleven

750
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: draft class arguably the greatest draft class of all times.

751
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: There were so many, you know. There there was Cam

752
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: cam Newton at number one, you know, me at twenty four,

753
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward at like thirty. Then there's Jordan Cameron and

754
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: like the like the fifth or sixth round. Uh And

755
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: I even got called by the Browns to get drafted

756
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: by them because they it was Jordan Cameron, and it

757
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: was Cameron Jordan. You know, there was a whole invert

758
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm exactly. So, you know, it was a Browns organization

759
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: that we all admire.

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00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: Cameron Hayward. It seems like a great dude. You know,

761
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: he won Walter Peyton Man of the Year award last night. Though,

762
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: Is that problematic for you people? Still confusing?

763
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm got called Cam Hayward a couple of times. Uh,

764
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: in my my stay here for the last three days

765
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: in Vegas, I've called I've been called. I was like, oh, man, Jordan, Cam.

766
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: I said, that don't even make sense that he's been

767
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: retired for so long.

768
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: Unless they go in like Jordan.

769
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it was. It was there was a

770
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: pause in there, so maybe they was just reading it

771
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: like you do the passport, you know, last name first

772
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: and then go on to the name. But I also

773
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: get I was like, oh, he's like, yeah, what they

774
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: don't do? I was like, dude, you're Cam. I was like,

775
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: come on say it, say it like I was like Newton, No, No,

776
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: I was like you don't. I've gotten Brandon Marshall and

777
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara And at this point, I'm just like, where

778
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: are we going with this?

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00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 4: You you uh, you know you're a great player, but

780
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: at this point, you're basically a podcaster. Uh, you're our colleague,

781
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: like Alvin Kamara, great teammate. You're our teammate on the

782
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: NF podcast. Yeah, the Off the Edge podcast. And I

783
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: know that you're truly a podcaster because you're getting eight thirty,

784
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 4: not even a wake up call, an eight thirty car

785
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: to come over here to Radio Row every single day.

786
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: You're you're working harder than us.

787
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's a it's a six forty

788
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: five wake up too. So I can go run down

789
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: to the to the to the weight room down at

790
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: the hotel just to get my thirty to forty five

791
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Speaker 1: minute elliptic.

792
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: Goal in to get the juices.

793
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Speaker 1: Really, the creative juice is flowing, you know, the cerebral

794
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: cortex has to be pulsating at ultimate levels for for

795
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: me to you know, be able to get into a

796
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: car at eight to be here by eight thirty to

797
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: get this work in.

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00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: How season one going up being a podcast here?

799
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: Man? So you know, I don't even know what season

800
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: this is. So me and mark Ingram had a podcast.

801
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: Trust levels biggest, you know, biggest trust on the highest

802
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: of levels. It was vibes, you know, and when you

803
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: can bounce ideas and talk to other people. It's a

804
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: party going solo, this solo act. You know, I'm not

805
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: feeling like just about I'm feeling like justin Timberlake when

806
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: he left in Sync, you know, like I'm like, I'm

807
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: off on on my own. I miss my friends. Nope,

808
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: won't say it out loud. We'll continue.

809
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: He made a lot of money.

810
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: Though, Well, you want to be Timberlake like two thousand

811
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: and three to twenty fourteen, not modern day Timberlake when

812
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: everyone hates him.

813
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Wait, everybody hates him.

814
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: I feel like there's been a lot of pushback and

815
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: blowback with Brittany and Janet and some other stuff.

816
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: Are they on trolls? Do their kids watch him every day?

817
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: I would not know.

818
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: I think Justine is doing all right. I think you're

819
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: right in that Sta. Yeah, he's probably doing quite okay.

820
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: Between Branch and Princess Poppy. You know what goes on

821
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: in my house?

822
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Speaker 2: How many kids you got? I've got four, okay, and

823
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: three of them are girls.

824
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: So guess what. We watch a lot of musicals. I

825
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: guess what trolls is? When heck of a musical?

826
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Speaker 3: We living in la I only know, like one dad

827
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: has three kids and it just tears his life asunder.

828
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: It's mostly two or one and people I know so

829
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: to go. Oh, you're in LA, so the taxes are high.

830
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: There three kids at a.

831
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Speaker 2: School that'll blow the house up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Down, Yeah, that sounds that sounds hurtful. I gotta take

833
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: these kids out to eat every day. No, no, no,

834
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: no no.

835
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: Can we talk a little Saints?

836
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Why wouldn't I want to talk about the black

837
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: and the gold or the gold on the black?

838
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: Can I ask you one like the most fascinating moment

839
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 5: for me from the Saints all year. You know, you

840
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 5: close out the season with a with a You're up

841
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: forty one to seventeen over the desperate Atlanta Falcons. We're

842
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 5: about to fire their coach and you're you're down at

843
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 5: the one yard line after an interception, and Jameis Winston

844
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 5: finished dials up, you know, unbeknownst to the coaching staff,

845
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 5: a one yard touchdown for Jamal Williams. You go, you

846
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 5: win the game forty eight seventeen. You know, Arthur Smith

847
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 5: is all annoyed afterwards. Dennis Allen doesn't know what to say.

848
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 5: But then Jameis Winston tells everyone later like, look, we

849
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 5: did it because everyone in the locker room wanted this

850
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 5: to happen.

851
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: Like your reaction to that, tell me, you tell me

852
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 2: your version.

853
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. The locker room really enjoys being a brotherhood. Right,

854
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry that we punished a

855
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: rival team. I would do it again. In fact, I

856
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: would have gone for two.

857
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 9: Now.

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00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm gonna have discrepancy with is I

859
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: was like I didn't understand the ramifications, Like, no, they

860
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: were taking victory formation. Ah, so the Cantlanta fail Cons

861
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: had already acquiesced and they were they were just trying

862
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: to get out there, just like their head coach was

863
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: about to get out there the Falcons.

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Speaker 2: And you know what that I love that about.

865
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: I didn't under Greg went to Tulane, so he was

866
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: a little more into the world there, grew up in

867
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: the Northeast. I didn't understand the true hatred between the

868
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 3: Saints and Falcons until started covering the sport more closely.

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00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: We kind of need more Saints Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Like, good job, I'll see you next time.

871
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 4: But right when I saw jamis that clip that kind

872
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: of went viral last week on stage at the church.

873
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 4: As a I was like, Dennis Allen didn't have a

874
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: chance against this guy.

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00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: Of course everyone's following. Jamis went absolutely yeah.

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00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: My only half my gripe was I was like, Dennis

877
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: ended up saying sorry, and I was.

878
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: Like, why would you say sorry?

879
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what you say sorry, We

880
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: didn't go for fifty, So sorry on you.

881
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: But here's the test because like after the game, James like, listen, like,

882
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: apologies to coach, but we made a decision as a team.

883
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: Jamal Jamal has been amazing team right, an amazing player

884
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: whatever they called his number. He's been giving all the juice,

885
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: all the all, you know, even giving up the possibility

886
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: of accolades.

887
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: But as Dennis and Jamis cool, like it's James next year.

888
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: Now, Jameis deserves to be he deserves to be a starter.

889
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: That's fair.

890
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: I mean, when you see the quarterbacks that played, I'm

891
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: not knocking anybody, but we played the Chicago Bears and

892
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: it was not justin Phils on the film. We we

893
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: played a guy in New York who whose agent was

894
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: probably became more famous than he did. So you're telling me, Jamis,

895
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: who's got you know, the arm of every Titans dream.

896
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 4: You know, that's right, you kind of I forgot y'all

897
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 4: ended de Vito insanity.

898
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: I forgot that.

899
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: Man.

900
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 5: I'm glad we weren't part of DEFO one thing though,

901
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 5: because I would imagine San Francisco like the players would

902
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 5: never do that to Kyle Shanahan. So I guess I'm

903
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: asking from another angle, like Dennis Allen kind of like

904
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: they wouldn't.

905
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, But is it is it.

906
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: Perceived as the players doing something to the coach or

907
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: the players I.

908
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: Think the people the outside the locker room kind of question,

909
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 5: like does Dennis Allen like have this team, you know,

910
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 5: in every possible way, or is it like we're gonna

911
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 5: go do what we want to do no matter who

912
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 5: the coach.

913
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: But that happened. If Sean Payton's the coach, I don't know,

914
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: absolutely would have gone.

915
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: So I would have gone for it wouldn't been a victory.

916
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 2: Said no, if Sean said we kneeling now, I don't.

917
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen us beat the breaks off of

918
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles and we're up by like thirty something

919
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: forty something. He's like looking around and like it could

920
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: have it's clearly a time to take a knee victory formation,

921
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: and sees Malcolm Jenkins in the secondary, a legendary Saints

922
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: player who had been gone to Philadelphia, and was like, aka,

923
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: over the top now and we're up by like thirty

924
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: five forty. You know. It was like, and we're going

925
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: up top. So I don't see Sean Ever saying no

926
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: to score more touchdowns. Sean yeah, Drew Brees, yeah, say

927
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: no to more touchdowns. Right. That's like, that's like you

928
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: have one hundred bucks and I have I'm about to

929
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: give you a hundred bucks, and you're you're your financial

930
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: advisors saying we don't want an right.

931
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: There was we talked about a lot on the show.

932
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 4: There was there was like a lot going on with

933
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: the Saints this year, like they were just a strange

934
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: team to figure out where I'm friends with a lot

935
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: of Saints fans kind of followed the coverage, and the

936
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 4: fans sometimes.

937
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: Were just like frustrated.

938
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: They were frustrated in a way that was almost unusual

939
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 4: for a team that was still you know, in the

940
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 4: mix in first place a lot of the years, and

941
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: and I think it was understandable that they were frustrated

942
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: with all the success that they had, and then after

943
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 4: the season a few things kind of struck me of.

944
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: Somehow we blew a seventeen point lead to the Green

945
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: Bay Packers.

946
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: That happened. I remember that that was early.

947
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: Mickey Loomis said something about after the season, this is

948
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: what struck me of that like, we we need to

949
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: do some changes maybe with the roster and personnel to

950
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 4: improve the culture. And that that that comment was like, hm,

951
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: improve the culture because when they hired Dennis Sound, they

952
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 4: were like, we're keeping Dennis Ound because we want to

953
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: keep this culture going. He's the guy that's been there

954
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: and been running this defense. So like, what do you

955
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 4: what do you think Mickey Lewis is talking about there,

956
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: like with the culture when.

957
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: There I've learned to not put my GM hat on. Okay,

958
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: yeah I've I've I've played this game and it's never

959
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: worked out. Well. I was like, yeah, this is what

960
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna do with the draft, this is how we

961
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: knowing it, this is what our team needs, and have

962
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: been completely wrong, you know. So I was like, yeah,

963
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a defense Vin And then in the

964
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: first round we got a corner and I was like,

965
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: and then we got back into the first round and

966
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is the d N time.

967
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: And then we went off as a tackle which turned

968
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: out to be a phenomenal draft. So you learn to

969
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: shut the hell up and let the up top do

970
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to want more.

971
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: If we're three years driving playoffs and maybe there's a

972
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: culture shop needs to be happened. I think there's there's

973
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: a core group of our players that, uh push positivity

974
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: and whatever it is. In fact, I loved our locker

975
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: room this year. But if our locker room isn't winning

976
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: at a high rate, things are gonna have to shake.

977
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: And one day they're be like, hey Cam, your time, Bud,

978
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, I hope the Saints keep on winning.

979
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: Whatever it takes. I just want the Saints to win.

980
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: We'll close it out with a little legacy talk. So

981
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm looking at.

982
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: Twenty six years toward in football there pick which pick which?

983
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: You're talking about Pro Football Reference. By the way your

984
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: head shots are, they're always on point. What do you

985
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: got in start for this year?

986
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, I don't know.

987
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: I like the the l Diablo look last year that

988
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: that one was probably my were.

989
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: You talking about the mustache twist up? That was a

990
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: few years ago. I still had like I'd still a

991
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: dreads you do you take? I had a Jerry curl

992
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: after that one. That was I now, I don't understand

993
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 1: when you know. Dion Sanders was like, it looks dry,

994
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: but it's it's wet, or it was wet, but it

995
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: looks whatever it was. I was like, I need that.

996
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 4: This this best reason Butler with the NBA, he's kind

997
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: of your version in the NBA doing Fallout Boy that way.

998
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: This that was crazy This year is kind of like

999
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: you're looking like you guy that maybe was on the

1000
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: airplane and you kind of let one go and you're

1001
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: waiting to see if anybody notices no, no, this one.

1002
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: This one was the Alan Iverson inspired walk over the

1003
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: Head but oh scraping over Tying Lou you know, yeah, but.

1004
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1005
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: So you have one hundred and seventeen and a half

1006
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: career sex and the most ever by the Saints, and

1007
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: that is a team that has some big time players

1008
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: in their history. Number one on the list is Bruce Smith.

1009
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: We're not going to get to two two hundred. But

1010
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: if you get to one twenty three eighteen years Yeah,

1011
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: we saw him last and it looked like like he's

1012
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: thirty seven.

1013
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: When I get to one twenty five this upcoming season, yeah, I.

1014
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 3: Was gonna say that puts you in the top twenty,

1015
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: and that puts you in the club of the great

1016
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: late Derrek, Thomas, Dwight, Free, and e Von Miller.

1017
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: Let's let's get in that top twenty eight.

1018
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: Dwight had one twenty five and a half and to

1019
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: get to get into the top twenty, Math is at

1020
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: one twenty three, which is what five and a half

1021
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: sacks suck?

1022
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: Sure, I think we could do that. Keep playing the Falcons,

1023
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: it's time.

1024
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, as long as my ankle doesn't go out

1025
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: week eleven, I have to go hobble around for seven weeks. Yeah,

1026
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: I see, I see myself doing that. The key is

1027
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: to stay, you know. They say the best ability is availability.

1028
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: And although I played, I was not at my regular

1029
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 1: standard of living after. In fact, I had a dag

1030
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: on Atlanta game, So you think I care about Atlanta.

1031
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: How frustrating is that when you're just a boy, won't

1032
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: listen to you.

1033
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a tin car pile up and everything

1034
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: landed on my ankle.

1035
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: All right, Well, hopefully next season you stay healthy and

1036
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 3: your dominant force as you've been your whole career. Thank you, buddy,

1037
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: and yes, check out the off the edge button.

1038
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: Now listen.

1039
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: We don't always give massive endorsements of podcasts, but we're

1040
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: gonna do it right here because Cam's the real deal.

1041
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 3: He's got obviously a big podcast future. So let's get

1042
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 3: on the let's get on the carpet ride.

1043
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: Well, according according to you know, my people, last night,

1044
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: I showed some dance moves. Maybe I just I quit

1045
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: this football thing and you know, just go tap dancing

1046
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life.

1047
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't get in the top twenty first. And then

1048
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 2: it all right, Cavin Jordan, thank you, buddy.

1049
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys having me on.

1050
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1051
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 3: All right, there it goes Cam. We'll take a break

1052
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: and we'll be right back right welcome back. It is time.

1053
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: It is time to pick the game. That game being

1054
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: Super Bowl fifty eight, and let's go around the horn.

1055
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: Let's pick the game. And then while we're here, as

1056
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: per tradition, please share your sangwage prop for Super Bowl

1057
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: fifty eight. We'll each have one. We should be hanging

1058
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: some onion here, right. I think we all know we should.

1059
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: It's a super Bowl, so Mark, get us going houses.

1060
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: And I think here is two things on the line

1061
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: here with you. Mark, I just thinking about this, as

1062
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: we learned yesterday, you did predict Niners Chiefs back in September.

1063
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: Correct.

1064
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it a daring prediction, but I yes,

1065
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: and you deserve credit for that, Yes, so much credit.

1066
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: We have another situation going on as well. Unless I'm mistaken,

1067
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: do you have a win yet in the picks in

1068
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: the playoffs, because this could be history.

1069
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: I don't think I've won since like November.

1070
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: I think I think you are winless in your picks

1071
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: so far in the playoffs and the locks. So obviously

1072
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: this is also our final lock of the week, lock

1073
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: of the season. Second half standings on the line, Greg,

1074
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: A lot on the line in this game.

1075
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: I don't think it's on the line anymore. You blew it.

1076
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: I didn't blow anything. You lost last time, So that

1077
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: means your one game up with want to play?

1078
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 5: Okay, you could tie in the site and I also

1079
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 5: believe in my situation.

1080
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: And also I have the extra first place vote it

1081
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: would go to me.

1082
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 5: Yes, there's an inglorious aspect to my situation that I

1083
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 5: believe I'm notched at nine wins and you need to

1084
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 5: get I was told that no one has ever finished

1085
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 5: with only nine wins.

1086
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: All right, so there's a lot on the line. Let's

1087
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: see what you got, Mark, all right.

1088
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 5: So I so this is what I predicted way back

1089
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 5: when forty nine Ers twenty eight, Chiefs twenty four. But

1090
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 5: I want to explain how this game ends. Yeah, go ahead,

1091
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 5: because the Chiefs, you know, they've not allowed thirty one points.

1092
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 5: All yeah, it's all these like their defense has been

1093
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 5: so tight. Kyle Shanahan's this is what I wrote for

1094
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 5: Endon for dot Com. Kyle Shanahan's winding quest to lift

1095
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 5: the Lombardi crescendos on a February night in Las Vegas

1096
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 5: is Brock Purty tilts Kansas City's defense for three scores

1097
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 5: and four hundred plus yards. The play of the game, though,

1098
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 5: is San Francisco's seventy seven yard pick six of Patrick

1099
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 5: Mahomes that seals the deal with seconds to go in

1100
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 5: the final frame.

1101
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: Right. I love that. I love it.

1102
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: Mark, You are always looking to ring it on the

1103
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: old horseshoe there, and that's that's a needle to thread.

1104
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: But I believe in you.

1105
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 4: I like I also like we're not all agreeing and

1106
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: I'm picking the Chiefs, so I like we're on different sides.

1107
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: I'm locking up the Chiefs. Twenty seven to twenties my score,

1108
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: it's just under that number. I do think it's going

1109
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: to be more of a running and a little bit

1110
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 4: of defense games a little under that that over under.

1111
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: You know, they're a dynasty.

1112
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: Some would say my locks title, staying at home in

1113
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 4: Santa Monica is a bit of a dynasty. It actually

1114
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 4: started this four four lock trophies in five year run

1115
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 4: by picking the Chiefs over and over and over again.

1116
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go back to the to the people

1117
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 4: that helped me get there. And sometimes we talked earlier

1118
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: in the week about Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and

1119
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 4: the journey that they've been on into becoming all time greats,

1120
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 4: and sometimes that's all it is, is just elevating at

1121
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: the big moments in the season. Travis Kelcey was four

1122
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 4: for thirteen on contested catches in that game against the Ravens,

1123
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 4: three for three mvs like you might.

1124
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 2: Not think it was one of the great players.

1125
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 4: Three for fourteen all year and plus twenty air yard

1126
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: type throws, three for four in the playoffs.

1127
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: They're just they're just playing better.

1128
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: Look at the teams they beat to beat, to beat

1129
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 4: the Dolphins and to beat the Bills and the Ravens

1130
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 4: in a row, that's a murderers row.

1131
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: Let's come though. Okay, Dolphins is a tough you know,

1132
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: the offense. I think the way that the defense bridget

1133
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: temperature is it's totally fair. But they won that game easily.

1134
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: That competition they've been beating, to me, has been more

1135
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: impressive than the Niners sneaking by. So I do like

1136
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: the Chiefs to really put the dot on this dynasty

1137
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 4: get their third title. Good game twenty seven to twenty.

1138
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: But the forty nine ers, to me, they feel like

1139
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 4: supporting players in someone else's story.

1140
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: All Right, So.

1141
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 3: I'm annoyed now because I can't go against how I feel,

1142
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: and it's gonna cost me the second half title.

1143
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 2: But I'll live with that second half co title.

1144
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: Greg, We're always you know, well, I had that extra

1145
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: first place vote, but it's gonna be It's gonna show

1146
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: once again at the level of integrity that I operate

1147
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: on at all times. I'm not going to change just

1148
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: because Greg went chalk as he always does.

1149
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: They're literally the underdogs for what it's worth. I mean,

1150
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: they're too stranibout.

1151
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: Everybody knows how you do your things, Okay, so congratulations

1152
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: on your titles, you know whatever. Okay, I do like

1153
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 3: the Chiefs here, and I got burned like so many

1154
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 3: other people picking against them.

1155
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: Me too, by the way, I been wrong in the.

1156
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: AFC title game. I thought it finally was Lamar's year.

1157
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 3: I thought Baltimore was the better team. And I'm gonna

1158
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: say it again here. I think the forty nine ers

1159
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: as they are presently constituted, their best game, I think

1160
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: is better than the Chief's best game the way their

1161
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 3: roster is constituted.

1162
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: And if Brock.

1163
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: Perdy, for instance, came out, came into this game sharp,

1164
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: and he was hitting throws, and you get McCaffrey making plays,

1165
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: and you have all this talent that San Francisco is

1166
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 3: on offense, if their defense can just play a B game,

1167
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: they're gonna be okay. Because Kansas City has shown, even

1168
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: during this great run in the playoffs, that they're not

1169
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: an explosive offense. They're still not one, even though they've

1170
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: had better success than they were having in the during

1171
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: a very difficult regular season.

1172
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: However, I just can't do it.

1173
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be the guy that goes against Mahomes

1174
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: in this spot. I think he's gonna find a way.

1175
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: So I'm also and this this was already here, Greg,

1176
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: I also have twenty seven to twenty. So we have

1177
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: the same pick, the same score. Let's see what happens.

1178
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: I wrote on NFL dot Com that I thought Mahomes

1179
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: wins another MVP, but it's going to be the SPACs

1180
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: defense that makes plays that are memorable. The more I

1181
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 3: think about it, as I spin now to my Sangwich

1182
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: prop and we'll come back that starting on my side.

1183
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 3: With that, I think there will be an element. So

1184
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: one of the offense having a big day.

1185
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: And one of the.

1186
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 3: Most maddening dumb storylines around this NFL season and our world,

1187
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: emanating out of certain corners of news media, is that

1188
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: the NFL is fixed, that the NFL is somehow this

1189
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 3: has been preordained, and specifically, the corporate synergy on display

1190
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 3: between Taylor and Travis is a sign that the NFL

1191
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: would wield the chiefs to this spot. We'll get your

1192
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 3: popcorn ready. People that love that can conspiracy theory, because

1193
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: I think Kelsey is going to have a monster game here.

1194
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: My Sangwich prop is that Kelsey becomes the first player

1195
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 3: in Super Bowl history to surpass two hundred yards receiving

1196
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: in a game since Jerry Rice went off for two

1197
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: fifteen and twenty three.

1198
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: Wow, super Bowl twenty three. That is That is my lock.

1199
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: Kelsey goes for two.

1200
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 3: Hundred tailored down on the field, sparks flying, and everyone

1201
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 3: is mad.

1202
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: That's my thing. Everyone, well, sod everybody. We won't start mad.

1203
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: People will be big mad.

1204
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 4: I'm happy they're happy. It seems like a beautiful relationship.

1205
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 4: I think they're in it to win it for the

1206
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 4: long run. That's I don't know. If I could put

1207
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: a sandwich prop on their marriage at some point, that'd

1208
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 4: be very long term. But I I like those odds.

1209
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 4: But I like the under two hundred yards even more.

1210
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: I mean, they got a hang onion, bro. That's more

1211
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. That's more than hanging. That's that's out there.

1212
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: That's beautiful, and I relish how the hordes of people

1213
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 3: are just looking past the forty nine ers because of

1214
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: a two week sample size from the Kansas City Chiefs.

1215
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: They're kidding, it's a very even in terms of happy

1216
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: I think their favorites amazing.

1217
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 5: People just think that the Kansas City Chiefs are back entirely.

1218
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 5: It's like the larger like sample size tells us that

1219
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 5: they were going to regress back to gaffes, drops, some issues,

1220
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 5: some problems and having to be that.

1221
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: Often, just like I thought that was gonna happen in

1222
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But that's a.

1223
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 4: Straw man argument because literally favorites and in terms of

1224
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 4: Vegas like the the this you know what they would say,

1225
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: the sharps, all the.

1226
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 2: Money is coming in on the forty nine ers.

1227
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 5: It's not a straw man in the sense that there

1228
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 5: has been a wave of support for the Chiefs that

1229
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 5: was simply not there two weeks ago.

1230
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 2: It's based on a two.

1231
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 5: Weeks sample size and it's not, you know, false or

1232
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 5: a ghost, but.

1233
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: But it's not. I think people are looking past the

1234
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: niners in the city. It's like a five year sample size,

1235
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: that's all. And then I'm turning out the flipping the switch.

1236
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 5: So we were talking about the Chiefs a certain way

1237
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 5: for eighteen weeks, yes, and now we're talking about them differently.

1238
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: For three weeks it's a different Yeah.

1239
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 5: Well that's but that's that's a presumption that that's exactly

1240
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 5: who they are from here on that.

1241
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 4: That's all I'm with you. It's always very difficult in

1242
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 4: the playoffs, which deew balance more. And that connects with

1243
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 4: my sandwich proplem. I'm going Isaiah Pichecko is going over

1244
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage in this game

1245
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: because I am waiting what I've seen the last handful

1246
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 4: of weeks from the forty nine ers defense. I think

1247
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: they're what sticks out most in this game that they

1248
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 4: have not been up for the challenge. I don't care

1249
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 4: about the effort thing. That's like two plays essentially in

1250
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: two players in very specific places. It's just that they're

1251
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 4: been mediocre. They've been mediocre in the biggest of spots.

1252
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 4: They should have lost that Packers game. They were really

1253
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 4: outplayed in that game. They didn't play well in the

1254
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 4: Detroit game and got bailed out. The defense of the

1255
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers is the only reason I don't think

1256
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 4: they win this game, and so I'm going to checko

1257
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: over one hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage.

1258
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 2: Oh you've been talking about that all right? How about you? Mark?

1259
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: Are we where are you taking that? Are you taking that?

1260
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

1261
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we didn't.

1262
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: We didn't take that.

1263
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: Took you take it?

1264
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 5: I thought that was for all the time that we

1265
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 5: call certain things onion hangers in terms of a game situation.

1266
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 3: That's a huge one right now. Man, I'm probably doomed,

1267
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: but that's a huge one. If it like, will you

1268
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 3: guys buy me a sangwich? If he goes for one

1269
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: to eighty four, well then just lower the number of them.

1270
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 3: Not bro, I'm going for I think it's a nice

1271
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,479
Speaker 3: round number. Yeah, give me two hundred first and stare.

1272
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 3: I'll take yours too. I think that yours is more probable.

1273
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: If like everything went right for the the Chiefs, you.

1274
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: Could break off an eighty yard or at some point

1275
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: you know, you.

1276
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 4: Know, still would be certainly longer long odds in terms

1277
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: of you know, it'd be like plus three hundred or something.

1278
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: I will take you up on it, but it's certainly

1279
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: within the range of outcomes.

1280
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: That's the other part. Mark.

1281
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: San Francisco's defense certainly could could be exposed in this game.

1282
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 5: That's true, but I would say their defensive woes are

1283
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 5: also more recent than the longer sample size. But I'm

1284
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 5: not big on their defense. But they gave up sixty

1285
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 5: what matters the most. It is, But I'm just saying

1286
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 5: like that they gave like in two playoff games, they

1287
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 5: gave up like sixty seven more yards on the ground

1288
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 5: than they had at any like average wise in the season.

1289
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 5: So and I honestly think that the come to Jesus

1290
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 5: talk from Wilke's like, yeah, does matter.

1291
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: Like they lost the pride a little bit.

1292
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 4: I'm usually with you, Mark, I'm usually the numbers over

1293
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 4: the season matter more. I look that the forty nine

1294
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: ers are favored. You just can't sell me on the

1295
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: no one believes in them argument. They're literally favored. I mean,

1296
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 4: and it's a coin flip. But I actually think you're

1297
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 4: making good points and if you're crow, if you're peacocking

1298
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: at the end of Sunday, it wouldn't surprise me, Like

1299
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 4: this is game, not much would surprise me.

1300
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: And I think the forty nine ers, I agree with

1301
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: you too, that their best.

1302
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 5: Game is the other thing that that doesn't matter is

1303
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 5: everything that came before this game. If I beat the

1304
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 5: both of you in this lot, that's all that anyone

1305
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 5: will remember. I'll give you that you want the trophy,

1306
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 5: I will. I will purchase my trophy if I'd vote

1307
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: for me. I vote for you too, Erica, vote too,

1308
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 5: Eric for one game? How many weeks have we had?

1309
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 5: I think I'm I think I'm seventeen and four. Right, Well,

1310
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 5: that that's might be a record.

1311
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: That might be a r by the way, I buy

1312
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: into hashtag effort gait. I don't even know if some

1313
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: of the Niners defenders are going to show up for

1314
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: the game like I do not.

1315
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm lazy. I'm laying on the couch. We didn't get

1316
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: your sandwich.

1317
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 5: Prap all right, So I'm gonna do a very mean

1318
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 5: thing because I got a I got it like a

1319
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 5: symbol from the sky. Earlier this week that in Las

1320
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 5: Vegas this week, a player was bit by a coyote.

1321
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: According to some reports.

1322
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 5: Okay, a lot of people reaching out about right, and

1323
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 5: I that's something that I said would happen a while back.

1324
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: I often say things that will happen, and they happen,

1325
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: you know, down to that a player would lose.

1326
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 5: I believe it was a player would lose like some

1327
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 5: playing time by being bitten by an animal.

1328
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: Now this in this case, it's a little bit off.

1329
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: It's a little too specific.

1330
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 5: I'm accepting that he probably did say that. Well, people

1331
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 5: are reaching out to me and saying this is true. Well, listen,

1332
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 5: I understand how this works with you guys. But it's

1333
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 5: been too quiet in Las Vegas. It's been far too quiet.

1334
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: Like this city. It's Friday.

1335
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 5: All of this business, this nonsense, this like look at

1336
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 5: look at me business is about to shut down, and

1337
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 5: it's about to become an explosion of human non virtue

1338
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 5: and problems and bad choices and all sorts of stuff.

1339
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 5: And I am telling you I'm not I just think

1340
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 5: this energy will feed out to the entire NFL sphere.

1341
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 5: Uh huh, that between now and the end of the

1342
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 5: game what I would call a far reaching NFL story.

1343
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 5: You know, when we get those, it's like Whenie when

1344
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 5: Boundegate started, it's like, oh, you know, we're going to

1345
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 5: be reporting on this for the next three or four months.

1346
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 5: I'm not talking like two weeks or one week, and

1347
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 5: then it disappears. It's like this is gonna go deep

1348
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 5: and gonna go long. And wide in terms of like

1349
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 5: a story, a far reaching NFL story that lasts for

1350
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 5: months will hatch before the game ends.

1351
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 3: Oh, but it can only be within the confines of

1352
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: the four quarters.

1353
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, the minute I said this and the

1354
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: end of the game. What if something has already happened,

1355
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: it just hasn't been reported yet. I think that would qualify.

1356
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it happened, not if it happened in September.

1357
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 4: But if it happen, does it have to be reported

1358
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 4: by Sunday Night?

1359
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: No?

1360
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: No, No, I would I would say the bet has

1361
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 3: to close. Well, wager's got a close on the Sunday Show.

1362
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 5: In spirit, I would think that it would have to

1363
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 5: happen that we know about it by the end of

1364
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 5: the game.

1365
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 2: I'll go with that because I think otherwise neither or.

1366
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 3: By the end by the time we get to this

1367
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: in the podcast late Sunday Night, which IST's coming out?

1368
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: Stuff's coming out? Okay? And I think when I.

1369
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 5: Say far reaching NFL story, I think we can agree

1370
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 5: on one that if we were back on the on

1371
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 5: the news desk, you'd be thinking headache, headache, headache, for

1372
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 5: weeks months to come.

1373
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 3: I had something similar cooked up. So that's why I'm

1374
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 3: not going to take you on it, because I too

1375
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 3: believe something's gonna happen.

1376
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: But would you not take that? I really I have.

1377
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 3: A feeling that's the worst movie. Something newsworthy.

1378
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: We'll move the needle, and yes, isn't it too hushed?

1379
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: It's too hushed? Right?

1380
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: The forty nine ers having another alarm clock wake them

1381
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 4: up fifteen minutes early does not qualify.

1382
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: It has to be massive. So I will take you.

1383
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 10: Up on this.

1384
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: Cam Newton's walking behind us with a cigar, saying, you

1385
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 3: can't do that. What is this nineteen eighty six?

1386
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 5: Right?

1387
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: They're smoking in our hotel all over the place?

1388
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 8: Are that?

1389
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1390
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: I walked down up it is Vegas. Yeah, I walked

1391
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: out of the hotel number two.

1392
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 5: It's the last more horse smoking smoking men's cigarettes.

1393
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: All right, there you go. Those are our super Bowl predictions.

1394
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: Those are our sandwich props. I stand with you on

1395
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 3: that one, Mark.

1396
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad that you do, because I think that

1397
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: that s the just legitimacy.

1398
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: All right, let's uh, let's take a break, and then

1399
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 3: we will welcome in certain members of a certain team

1400
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 3: of a certain podcast up next.

1401
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you heard it.

1402
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 3: Our guests now joining us from the Minnesota Vikings, Kirk

1403
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 3: Cousins and kJ Osbourne. Welcome to around the NFL, fellas,

1404
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 3: And there's the chant. Can you can you picture? It's

1405
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 3: almost your back. I can feel it inside the building.

1406
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: I can feel it. This is the best entro yeah,

1407
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 3: best stadium right.

1408
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they hit a home run with it. Really well done, Pirk. Heyja,

1409
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: tell us what you're doing here with bounty. Let's get

1410
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 2: into that.

1411
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 7: Well, you know you can't have We've had some wings

1412
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 7: that we've set up at these different stations, and you

1413
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 7: really can't have wings without having Bounty paper towels. So

1414
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 7: uh so we're really you know, I understand a lot

1415
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 7: of people on Sunday watch the Super Bowl gonna have wings.

1416
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 7: They're gonna have parties and have all kinds of good food.

1417
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 7: To make sure you don't forget about the Bounty paper towels,

1418
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,959
Speaker 7: because I've hosted some parties through college through the years

1419
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 7: where I forgot the paper towels and problem, so.

1420
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 9: You can't you can't have football with our wings.

1421
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: What if somebody brings the wrong paper towels, you just

1422
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 2: kick them out of the party. Oh yeah, for sure, Yeah,

1423
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: he has to be bounty.

1424
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 9: It's not gonna work.

1425
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: It's not gonna I've.

1426
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: Always felt that. I agree.

1427
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 3: Howse little here's a little This start eleven season at

1428
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 3: ATEN and every year we pick a team of around

1429
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 3: the NFL. This year we picked the Vikings and it

1430
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: was after Kirk's injury and we we kind of said,

1431
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 3: let's get behind this as an underdog story didn't quite

1432
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: work out, but you we had your backs all season long.

1433
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 3: We want you guys to know that.

1434
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 7: I love that.

1435
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. Man.

1436
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 3: What's going on with the with the Achilles. Let's I

1437
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 3: know you've been asked that seven thousand times. Where are

1438
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 3: you at?

1439
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'm three months in, probably got about four

1440
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 7: months to go. I'm hoping I can get back. I

1441
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 7: expect to be able to get back for seven on

1442
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 7: seven and OTAs because you're you know, you're safe there.

1443
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 7: You're just taking your drop back with nobody around you

1444
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 7: making the throws. I'm hoping to be able to do

1445
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 7: team drills too. But we'll cross that bridge and we

1446
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 7: get there and then go into the summer break fully cleared,

1447
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 7: fully healthy. But the first three months has been a

1448
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 7: positive experience. I was nervous because I haven't had surgery before,

1449
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 7: I haven't had big rehab. But uh, you know, the

1450
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 7: surgery coming out with the cast and the scooter and

1451
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 7: then the walking boot and now you know, getting back

1452
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 7: in a shoe. It's been a real positive process. The

1453
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 7: Vikings training STAB has been outstanding and it's been a

1454
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 7: good first three months.

1455
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, kjuh.

1456
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 4: You know, I know at this point in the season

1457
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 4: when we chose you as a team of around the

1458
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 4: NFL podcast, clearly it made big We just blew out

1459
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 4: everyone's ears.

1460
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, No, that was awesome. I like, I am

1461
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: so excited that it happened. Eric, You're fired. I'm sorry.

1462
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 4: Uh, the team of at and you know, I'm sure

1463
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 4: that was big news in the locker room, you guys

1464
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 4: talking about it. We were now an international award winning podcast.

1465
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 4: How did how did that feel to be embraced by

1466
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 4: by the podcast with Josh Dobbs and all the different

1467
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 4: quarterbacks that kind of went through there.

1468
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: Oh, we love it.

1469
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 9: We love any any any love we get, man, we

1470
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 9: love it.

1471
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

1472
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 9: And uh, you know, we got a great fan base

1473
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 9: up there in Minnesota, so they show us a ton

1474
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 9: of love as well.

1475
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: What was that like that that end stretch of the

1476
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 4: season which had some awesome ups, it had downs, It

1477
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 4: had a little bit of everything throughout that stretch and

1478
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 4: you're without your leader, Kirk, but you have different quarterbacks

1479
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 4: who come in and all sort of had their moments.

1480
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: And then like, what was that whole season like?

1481
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 4: Because it feels like the Vikings are always a lot

1482
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 4: like no matter what, there's a lot going on, Like

1483
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 4: it's a fun team to watch, like the ups and

1484
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 4: the and a little bit.

1485
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: Of the downs.

1486
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, it was a lot of ups and downs.

1487
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 9: But you know, whoever coach puts in there, that's what

1488
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 9: we're gonna rally around. And one of the things in

1489
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 9: the receiver room we say, we try to be wide open,

1490
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 9: you know, so try to make the job easier for

1491
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 9: the quarterback man for you know, we talked about the

1492
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 9: forty seconds that before the play clock that you know,

1493
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 9: you guys don't hear on TV and everything like that,

1494
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 9: and the pre snaps and the motions and everything like that.

1495
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 9: If we are up on our game as receivers, you know,

1496
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 9: we can help the quarterback out. And again, just being

1497
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 9: wide open for him, and you know, any guy that

1498
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 9: coach puts in and there we're gonna trust him.

1499
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: Kirk, can we talk a little carcassance? I don't know

1500
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 3: if you've heard that thrown.

1501
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 7: Around, heard that thrown out?

1502
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: So I really think obviously is a well known thing.

1503
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: A year agoing onnors you came out as Kirk O

1504
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 3: chains and the famous team playing moment. I really feel like,

1505
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 3: and tell me if you agree or disagree from our standpoint.

1506
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: On the outside, it was like a turning point in

1507
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: how Kirk Cousins was seen. Like it was like, oh,

1508
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: these guys love playing with him. Uh, You've always been

1509
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: a well known as a good guy and a productive player,

1510
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 3: But did you feel like a change from the outside

1511
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: a little how you're seeing after that kind of took

1512
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: off a little bit.

1513
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: That was interesting.

1514
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 7: If I had known that, I probably would have been

1515
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 7: on a playing shirt list of chains On in like

1516
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 7: year two or three. But it took till year eleven

1517
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 7: to figure that out. So I know it certainly has

1518
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 7: has created a bit of a change. I think I've

1519
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 7: always been the same guy, but perception was probably different

1520
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 7: than reality, and perceptions maybe catching up to reality a

1521
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 7: little in some ways. And so that's kind of where

1522
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 7: we stand now.

1523
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 4: kJ like doing Kirk as his teammate and as you know,

1524
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 4: the leader in your huddle. Did y'all watch the Netflix

1525
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 4: show and like, was there anything from it? You guys

1526
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 4: gave him some grief about from the Netflix show.

1527
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people I loving that show.

1528
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: I love kirkt it.

1529
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 9: I loved it, you know a lot of I got

1530
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 9: a lot of feedback from trying to.

1531
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 7: Keep a secret during the season. So we were trying

1532
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 7: to be low key. We didn't want to be distractions.

1533
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 7: So if anything, the grief I got was, we.

1534
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: Don't even know.

1535
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 9: You didn't tell you didn't tell us, We didn't know.

1536
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 9: You know, it was a little fishy because you know,

1537
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 9: there was always cameras up at practice. I'm like, that's

1538
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 9: not the team. I'm like, somebody's miked up every day,

1539
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 9: but nobody you know, usually that stuff gets out. But

1540
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 9: it was it was a good secret. It was a

1541
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 9: good secret.

1542
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was such a great look. And I think

1543
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: maybe that also played into the circussants a little bit.

1544
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, and just seeing like the dedication it

1545
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 3: takes and after the season ended in the in the playoffs,

1546
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 3: like you know, you're getting up early and spending the

1547
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 3: time with the family. That I mean, it's it's I

1548
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 3: think it's good for people that haven't played the game.

1549
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: Too to see like the human side. That show was

1550
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: such a great job.

1551
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the fun of it was that we

1552
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 7: do cover a lot of the football. Maybe this show

1553
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 7: can cover the football. And and I think the and

1554
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 7: was what was so fun.

1555
01:07:55,600 --> 01:08:00,479
Speaker 4: About it, right, I like, my kid loves that and

1556
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 4: he has like an hour of TV he gets to

1557
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 4: watch a day, and he's choosing to watch that show,

1558
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 4: which kind of boggles my mind.

1559
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 2: So he forces a child to watch football content.

1560
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 4: Kids the same way, right, Like I've seen the ex

1561
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 4: players at NFL Network how they train their kids to

1562
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 4: become NFL players.

1563
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen with my body him to be

1564
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:22,520
Speaker 2: to be a podcast.

1565
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 7: There you go.

1566
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 2: Now, you guys are here at you know, as teammates.

1567
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 4: Uh, your futures are are somewhat up in the area

1568
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 4: going into Have you ever thought kJ of seeing what

1569
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 4: Kirk's done as a businessman in his career.

1570
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: He's gotten it done.

1571
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 4: Maybe you combine forces, combine the leverage, you're stronger together

1572
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 4: as a free agent tandem just the thought.

1573
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 7: I've never even thought of that, Like, go to free

1574
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 7: agency as a as a group, as as.

1575
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: Like a team, not as a friends. Guy, did you

1576
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: watch Friends? Friends is a little bit ahead of my time.

1577
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 7: I never really resonated with so you totally mispegged me there,

1578
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 7: I'm not a friend.

1579
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry and apologize. It's a bad job by me.

1580
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 3: But they had an ingenious move where the six main

1581
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 3: cast members negotiated together and they did we get the

1582
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:12,799
Speaker 3: same amount of money?

1583
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: We go to the same place and work out.

1584
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 7: It was a record setting show. Maybe we try the

1585
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 7: same thing. I would not be against if I had

1586
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 7: to pick someone to team up with to do that,

1587
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 7: the guy to my right would be someone I would pick.

1588
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: So, uh, it's a good idea.

1589
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 4: How does it feel like this? This time of year

1590
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 4: is just an awkward time?

1591
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: It is?

1592
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 4: It's a good word when you're a little in between

1593
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 4: for both of you. Just I guess, how are you feeling?

1594
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 4: What are you thinking going into it as free agents?

1595
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, we said March is the month, and we're in

1596
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 7: February and the season at of January seventh, so you

1597
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 7: really have two months of no news and you're not

1598
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 7: supposed to have news.

1599
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 2: It's just kind of a waiting game, and that's okay.

1600
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 7: So you have a lot of people asking about it

1601
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 7: when you run into them in town and they want

1602
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 7: to all the.

1603
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: Updates, and I say, I don't have any updates.

1604
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 7: I'll let you know our seventh days ninth, that's when

1605
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 7: things will start to eat up. Until then, there's no

1606
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 7: reason to have news because you really shouldn't for short.

1607
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 9: Just this is my first time doing it, so I'm

1608
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 9: going through it. I'm learning and I'm asking my as

1609
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 9: I'm asking guys, you know it gotta be something you hear,

1610
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 9: gotta be you know something. And I'm finding out the

1611
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 9: same way as Kirk are saying, you know, it just

1612
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 9: doesn't happen until it happens.

1613
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say, and we're gonna let you guys go

1614
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 3: because we know you're busy. But I've always had I

1615
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 3: grew up a Jets fan. I wanted you to sign

1616
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: with Jet a few years back then it happened, But

1617
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: the uh you, I feel like you found a home

1618
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 3: in Minnesota. You guys have great chemistry as teammates. Well,

1619
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 3: let's run it back, stay in Minnesota. We don't need

1620
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 3: but get paid do the friends thing get paid? All right,

1621
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 3: thanks guys, we appreciate it. All right, There goes Kirk

1622
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 3: and kJ and and Mark back in the picture. We

1623
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 3: should have mentioned that Mark stepped out because we you know,

1624
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 3: not a lot of mics and marketinged a blow.

1625
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 4: It was a little weird that Mark is still so

1626
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 4: anti Minnesota Vikings from what happened with Team of around

1627
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 4: the end of the walk off.

1628
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 2: He refused to interview. But it's nice to welcome you back.

1629
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 5: Well, it's uh, you know, I I feel like I

1630
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 5: could tell that I was missed. It's really evident, like

1631
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 5: it was just more talk space for the two of you,

1632
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 5: and so fine, have a nice time.

1633
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: With it, all right.

1634
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 3: So Mark is back though, because we have one more guest,

1635
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 3: and this is I mean, this is a little pop

1636
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 3: for this guest that it's the final guest of super

1637
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 3: Bowl Week at Radio Row. That shows how much we

1638
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 3: care and love Nicky Glazers.

1639
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: The Great Friday is.

1640
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:47,919
Speaker 3: Glazer, who is a tremendously talented, uh stand up comedian

1641
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 3: and host.

1642
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: And you're doing all podcast hosts.

1643
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 3: You have your own podcast that is emanating out of

1644
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 3: this very spot.

1645
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: Right after we finish up. You're Also, you're gonna be

1646
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: on it.

1647
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 3: I can't wait. I can't wait. And uh, you're touring

1648
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 3: relentlessly making that gwop. So check out Nicky's tour dates

1649
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 3: on table side Gap, yep uh wherever and all the socials.

1650
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 3: Nicki Glazer, welcome to around the NFL.

1651
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 11: Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor

1652
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 11: to be here.

1653
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: This is like, I'm a weird thing.

1654
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 3: We go way back, we go way back, and Nicky

1655
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,440
Speaker 3: and I, I remember.

1656
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: It's not weird for Mark and I It's pretty normal. No,

1657
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: But I want to know. I want to know more.

1658
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: So way back in like two thousand and eight, when

1659
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:30,560
Speaker 3: Nicky was first like fresh from Saint Louis and college,

1660
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: and I was coming to LA to work with our

1661
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 3: buddies Bob and Jason Zumwaldt, and they were doing these

1662
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: videos and doing great stuff, and Nicky was a fan

1663
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 3: as well of the work they were doing for the

1664
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 3: Post show.

1665
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: Y was well your friend, Bob.

1666
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 10: I was drunk in college one night and I was

1667
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 10: a big fan of Best Week Ever. Bob worked on

1668
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 10: Best Week Ever. I followed the Best Week Ever blog

1669
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 10: on VH one. Bob did the blog. He had also

1670
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 10: posted his aim screen name on the blog, and because

1671
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 10: I was a super fan, I was like, I'll just

1672
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 10: add him to my buddy list. So one night in college,

1673
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 10: I came back to my dorm. I was a little drunk,

1674
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 10: and I was like, he's on I'll just like, you know,

1675
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 10: instant message him back in the you know, I heard

1676
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 10: the like the door open and then uh. And then

1677
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 10: I became friends with him from just aiming him once

1678
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 10: and then he put me in some of the sketches

1679
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 10: when I went to New York. Probably was trying to

1680
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 10: make something happen romantically.

1681
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: Never did, Bob. I don't know how you resisted, Bob.

1682
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 11: There was a.

1683
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 10: Rooftop moment where I think we could have kissed. But

1684
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 10: I really like I have a way of putting up

1685
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 10: a wall that lets people know, like, don't even try.

1686
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: To keep their dignity. Yes.

1687
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, It's just.

1688
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 10: Like I have friends who get hit on all the

1689
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 10: time where I'll just be with them and guys will

1690
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 10: just be like, hey, you're gonna finish all that salad?

1691
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 10: Like They'll just guys will just say something. But like

1692
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 10: or like I was walking with my friend in the

1693
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 10: park and some guy was just like, hey, do you dance?

1694
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 10: And he's leaning against this motorcycle and he just us

1695
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 10: twenty feet away.

1696
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 11: It goes, do you dance? And he's not talking to me?

1697
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,560
Speaker 10: And I go, do people just ask you if you like?

1698
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 10: And then she's like, that's oh my god, no I don't.

1699
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 10: I go, don't stop talking to us, sir. So I

1700
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 10: think I put up a wall with people, and.

1701
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: Especially though it's a skill, like a friend.

1702
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 10: Zone thing, because I just I like being friends with

1703
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 10: men and I don't want a weird thing to get

1704
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 10: in the way of that until I choose.

1705
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 5: I'm taking notes at the moment just about the tree

1706
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 5: thing and the leaning to learn tree don't just leaning.

1707
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 2: I put up a similar wall.

1708
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 4: That's why I really haven't gotten much attention from the

1709
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 4: ladies this week.

1710
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: But it's just obvious the one no one's ever asked

1711
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: me to dance in the park, and I know it

1712
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:29,879
Speaker 2: all connects.

1713
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 10: Yes, no one asked me either. I have to explore

1714
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 10: it and go why am I not going?

1715
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 3: And I wrote you had a Comedy Central show that

1716
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 3: Bob was a head writer on, like, so we're all connected,

1717
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 3: And well I was in that world working with the

1718
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 3: guys in two thousand and eight and we became friends,

1719
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: and I remember like, because I was broke, you were

1720
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 3: broke to i'd imagine at the time. And I remember

1721
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 3: taking our buddy Brian's car and I would drive you

1722
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 3: to like stand up sets occasionally, and it would be

1723
01:14:58,680 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 3: so it's kind of town.

1724
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: It's kind of a uh, this is a moment, Hollywood.

1725
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: It was.

1726
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 3: This is a full circle moment. It's so great to

1727
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 3: have you here. And I need the reason why it

1728
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: was perfect. It was a lot of reasons why it

1729
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 3: was playing. I don't know, but I.

1730
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 11: Love having you.

1731
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 4: Guys are literally in between you that you know, two

1732
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 4: of the greatest football minds.

1733
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 3: And the reason I thought it would be a lot

1734
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 3: of fun is number One, you are a big Taylor

1735
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: Swift fan.

1736
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 11: That's where I feel I do belong here.

1737
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 10: Otherwise I would feel like such a fraud and I

1738
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 10: would be really embarrassed to be here because I don't

1739
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 10: like being places I don't belong and I feel because

1740
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 10: of my Tailor Swift knowledge, even though most people would

1741
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 10: disagree with that, I do feel like this is the

1742
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 10: only year in which I belong to.

1743
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like I remember when we got to know

1744
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: each other because I've always been a sports guy, like

1745
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 3: you were very kind of anti sports, like to keep

1746
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 3: the sports away from me, and because.

1747
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 10: I'm scared of what I don't understand. It's not it's

1748
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 10: not because I I hate what I don't know, and

1749
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 10: I don't I don't seem to really understand football, and

1750
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 10: it's been explaining to me many times. I'm I'm starting

1751
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 10: to understand it, but I just don't understand how millions

1752
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 10: of people understand this very complicated game like second nature.

1753
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 10: There's no like training you guys go through. I always

1754
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 10: ask my friends, like, so where did you learn that?

1755
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 8: That is?

1756
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 11: What did you When did you learn what off sides were? Whatever?

1757
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 11: Like these, like did you ask your dad? Was there

1758
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 11: a course in school?

1759
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 10: Like you guys start playing football as little kids, Like

1760
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 10: do they explain all the little intricacies of it?

1761
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 2: Like how do you look?

1762
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 3: It's a daunting sport to kind of jump into the water.

1763
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 2: Video games, video games?

1764
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, but so here's a here's a data point.

1765
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 3: So Deshriver mentioned a report from Apex Marketing Group that

1766
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 3: estimated more than three hundred and thirty million in brand value.

1767
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift is brought to the NFL and the Chiefs.

1768
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what really any of that means, but

1769
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 3: I do know that Swift and the NFL is on

1770
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 3: people's radar because it is these two massive giants of

1771
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 3: culture and you are someone now you're watching the games, like,

1772
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 3: are you amongst the like maybe millions of people that

1773
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 3: are now watching football for the first time?

1774
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 2: Would you want to you to watch it if she

1775
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 2: wasn't in Yeah, I.

1776
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 11: Think so well, because it also lined up.

1777
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 10: The time when Taylor Smith started going to games was

1778
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 10: also when my boyfriend moved in with me, and he's

1779
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 10: a huge football fan and watches most of it, and

1780
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 10: so that was when it just started being on all

1781
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 10: the time. So just to enjoy being around that, I

1782
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 10: had to start like understanding it. So I think that

1783
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 10: he was gone watching a game recently and I turned

1784
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 10: on the game and Taylor wasn't even there because I

1785
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 10: did care, and I felt so cool because for the

1786
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 10: first time in life, I was on the phone with

1787
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 10: a friend who was going through a breakup and I'm

1788
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 10: like talking to him on speakerphone, I have the game

1789
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 10: on mute, and I felt so cool because at one

1790
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 10: point he's crying out something. I go no, and I

1791
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 10: did the thing that men do where they react and

1792
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 10: then the person on the phone goes what's going on

1793
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 10: and you go, oh, I'm just I can't believe she

1794
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 10: said that to you or texted you that. I felt

1795
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 10: so cool that I had like a man moment where

1796
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,879
Speaker 10: you react to and not just men, but like mostly

1797
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 10: react to something that happened. And I understood what was happening.

1798
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 10: It's like it's been an education, but it's one hundred

1799
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 10: percent based on Taylor Swift. And I will say that,

1800
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 10: you know, I'm one of these people that has an

1801
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 10: unhealthy relationship in my mind with her, of like she's like.

1802
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 11: My friend or whatever.

1803
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 10: And I know that discuss some people and confounds people

1804
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 10: as well, but it's it truly is a thing. Like

1805
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 10: when she won last week at the Grammys, I felt

1806
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 10: this like, oh, it's like my friend is winning.

1807
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,839
Speaker 11: Like I felt that kind of joy and I thought.

1808
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 2: That's so ridiculous.

1809
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 11: How she's not my friend. I don't know her. Why

1810
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 11: do I feel this? Is that really how I feel?

1811
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 10: And then I go, actually, I've had friends when Emmy's

1812
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 10: and it's the exact same feeling that I had, So

1813
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 10: I do I do feel like she's my friend. And

1814
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 10: so when she first started dating Travis, I.

1815
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: Was like, the Travis just like your first name basis

1816
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 2: with him, It's great.

1817
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's where we're at as swift Day's. I think

1818
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 10: when Travis and when Travis she first when he first

1819
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 10: gave the friendship bracelet, I remember being so annoyed and

1820
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 10: being like, who does he think he is? And him

1821
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 10: being like I wanted to meet her after, but she's

1822
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 10: too busy, and it's just like, yeah, she's Because I

1823
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,560
Speaker 10: didn't know anything about him. I just thought he was

1824
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 10: just some guy and was getting headlines because he talked

1825
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 10: about her.

1826
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 11: So I was like, because this is a thing. If

1827
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 11: you talk about Taylor Swift.

1828
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 10: You'll get your name, your face next to hers in

1829
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 10: some kind of headline if you say anything in some

1830
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 10: lead exactly. And I've never done that intentionally, but yes,

1831
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 10: I get my name next to hers on headlines sometimes

1832
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 10: because I have a lot of opinions. But I just

1833
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 10: thought it was his attempt to like but he's not

1834
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 10: like that at all, it comes to find.

1835
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,839
Speaker 11: Out in it it worked.

1836
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 10: Is the wild thing that that worked, like being that

1837
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 10: bold and when she first got with Travis, I was like,

1838
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 10: oh no, like she's gonna be a football girly, Like

1839
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 10: I've never related to girls that like football.

1840
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 11: Like I'm losing her, you know.

1841
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 10: Like it's like when my friends have kids, I'm just like,

1842
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 10: atually I won't relate to them anymore. We won't care

1843
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 10: about the same things. And then I said, try to

1844
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 10: let this in and I was able to, and I

1845
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 10: feel like, she yeah, I if she ever has a baby, though, that's.

1846
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 2: When I'm at That's where I go, You're moving on.

1847
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 11: I can't have a bit.

1848
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: It's too much. It's a bridge too far. Yeah, yeah,

1849
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 2: she a.

1850
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 4: Little Kelsey baby like, but yeah, I'm into it. I

1851
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 4: feel like the two groups, I mean you should. You

1852
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 4: should see like when football fans are like why would she?

1853
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 4: You know, Taylor Show fans get so into this or

1854
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 4: follow this person around that they don't even know and

1855
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 4: get emotionally involved them, Like there's a seventy thousand person

1856
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 4: stadium of people whose entire weeks or months or lives

1857
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 4: or years are going to rise or fall based on

1858
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 4: what happens on that field. And like, whenever we're in person,

1859
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 4: it always strikes me it's like, oh yeah, these are

1860
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 4: just like other people doing this thing and they actually

1861
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 4: have no relation to me whatsoever. And the people on

1862
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 4: the Patriots really aren't that different than the people on

1863
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 4: the Colts, even though I built up in my mind.

1864
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 4: It's like we're having the exact same parasocial relationships. It's

1865
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 4: nice to put yourself into something that you have no

1866
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 4: control over.

1867
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 10: That's really thank you for saying that, because I've always

1868
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 10: That's what I've envied envied about sports fans, is that

1869
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 10: you have this commune and this passion and this thing

1870
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 10: where you can get so excited about these events you

1871
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 10: look forward to. And I just never had that until

1872
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 10: I became a swifty and suddenly I have this community

1873
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 10: of people where we're all rooting for this nice the

1874
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 10: same thing, and it feels really good.

1875
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 11: And yeah, she can.

1876
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 10: The only place she plays now are places that are

1877
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 10: made for football, so it's like it is the same thing.

1878
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 11: It's a huge connection. It's everyone dresses up, everyone.

1879
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 10: But I've been to ten a nine eras concert tours

1880
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 10: in the past year, and I'm going to three next week,

1881
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 10: so I'm gonna I'm getting Australia.

1882
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 2: Look at you.

1883
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 11: I didn't go there for it. I'm just there for a.

1884
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 10: Wedding and she happens to be there, so I'm going.

1885
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 10: But people go, how could you go that many times?

1886
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 10: And it's like, because it's just it's just a great

1887
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 10: Like people go to see games that many times, but

1888
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 10: my team always wins.

1889
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: Always disappointment.

1890
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like I find a comparison here because when

1891
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 5: I was very young, I'd moved back from England.

1892
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 2: These guys were tired to hear about this.

1893
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 5: But my mom woke me up one morning in like

1894
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty four and we went down and watched the

1895
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 5: very old television set.

1896
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 2: It was the Charles and Die wedding.

1897
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 5: It started at like four in the morning, and we

1898
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 5: sat there and like, I'll never forget watching that. And

1899
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 5: I kind of think, with where our culture is a

1900
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 5: little bit that this is the perfect kind of our

1901
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 5: version of Charles and Diana a little bit on some level.

1902
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 5: But my question more would be because it makes so

1903
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 5: much sense culturally for like the football star to date

1904
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 5: like the rock Icon. Yeah, and maybe the roles are

1905
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 5: a little reversed. She's the royalty, but would a do

1906
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 5: you think the rock Icon would date someone who podcasts

1907
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 5: about football stars where that had the same hold over

1908
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 5: the culture.

1909
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 10: I think, yeah, I think we will love whoever she loves.

1910
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 10: But this is certainly playing into like, you know, she's

1911
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 10: always been the Like she has a song called fifteen

1912
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,919
Speaker 10: where she's like, you'll do things greater, that you'll do things.

1913
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 11: Greater than dating the boy on the football.

1914
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 10: Team, like where it's like she has all these illusions throughout,

1915
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 10: like I wear short skirts, she's on the bleach shirt.

1916
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 11: Well, all that stuff.

1917
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 10: It's all been like leading to this, and I do

1918
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 10: think it will last a really long time. I don't

1919
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 10: think it'll last forever because I don't think anything's due,

1920
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 10: especially with the pressure of uh, you know, but I

1921
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 10: think I think that this will go the distance. I

1922
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 10: think they'll have kids. I think they'll get married and

1923
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 10: all that. I don't think there's a proposal coming. Sandwich

1924
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 10: on it, Yeah, all right, I'd love to.

1925
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: We do sandwich pops. Yeah, they will have children. Yeah.

1926
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,520
Speaker 10: Running by we'll get an announcement twenty twenty five December

1927
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 10: of a baby only wed.

1928
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 2: An Onion on the show. There'll be a.

1929
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 10: Predict it now wedding summer of twenty five, announcement of

1930
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 10: baby in December.

1931
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 3: That's beautiful prediction. By the way, do you have our

1932
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 3: our opening? Because I think she might recognize the voice.

1933
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 3: I think Nikki will like this. Let's see, it's a test.

1934
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: Oh, I know who this.

1935
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 11: Is already around.

1936
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 3: That is so this is such a fun, cool thing

1937
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 3: to have Nikki here and you. By the way, check

1938
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 3: out Nikki on the Good Girl tour. If you're at

1939
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 3: the wedding and see your fame is reaching levels, It's

1940
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 3: like I got a million Instagram followers and my friend

1941
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 3: is getting married in Australia, I'm gonna go, like, if

1942
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 3: you can go to Australia for the wedding and then

1943
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 3: catch Taylor a few times.

1944
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: Nikki, I'm proud of you, I guess, is what I'm

1945
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 2: saying as a friend.

1946
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, thirty thousand dollars on Taylor Show's tickets I'm not getting.

1947
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 10: I mean I'm getting some here and there. I get

1948
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 10: a little deals or like insider, like you can buy

1949
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 10: tickets for seven hundred dollars instead of seven thousand. But

1950
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 10: I'm not getting any shortcuts from my fame. I don't

1951
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 10: think I want to be friends with her.

1952
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 3: Okay, it's too heavy, Yeah, it's too heavy. You're also

1953
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Speaker 3: the host of f Boy Island, which Mark I know

1954
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Speaker 3: you auditioned for. I'm sorry, Mark, maybe maybe next time we.

1955
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Speaker 10: Can't allow shirts in the swimming pool and you refuse.

1956
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Speaker 11: To take it off.

1957
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Speaker 2: Take it off, Mark.

1958
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Speaker 3: And finally, the Nicki Glazer podcast, which I'm I think

1959
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Speaker 3: about to do with you.

1960
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Speaker 11: Yes, I'm so excited.

1961
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Speaker 3: Awesome, And that wraps up our week of shows here

1962
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Speaker 3: at Radio Road.

1963
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Speaker 2: Next time you hear from us.

1964
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Speaker 3: It will be the flagship program super Bowl fifty eight.

1965
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Speaker 2: Check it out.

1966
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you listen to these shows, you're gonna

1967
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Speaker 3: listen to that one. But so I don't even sell it,

1968
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Speaker 3: you know, listen. Thank you everybody, Thank you, all our guests,

1969
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Speaker 3: Thank everybody behind the scenes.

1970
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Speaker 2: Eric, thank you, Buddy. Great.

1971
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Speaker 3: We had four old fashions with Eric and even guilted

1972
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Speaker 3: Rosenthal into one, so that was a big, big development.

1973
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Speaker 2: Also highlight of the week, guys, Highlight of the week.

1974
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Speaker 3: All right, love everybody, Thanks everybody, till Sunday.

1975
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Speaker 2: Heat the Call.