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Speaker 1: Don't sports Radio well a good good, good good good

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Speaker 1: good morning, A buddy happy happy Abby, happy happy.

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Speaker 2: Abby Sports Saturday with the Fellas. Uh, the Dougs. I

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Speaker 2: gotta give the Dugs all the credit in the world.

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Speaker 2: We we uh, we've been talking about it. They they're

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Speaker 2: they're the well deserved team, man, they just really are.

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Speaker 2: And last night and you saw Miami, Man, Miami, they

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Speaker 2: they wanted that they want. They came out, they played

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Speaker 2: really good defense, they held they held Denver to twenty

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Speaker 2: in the first quarter, and they're just listen, Jimmy, you see,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy wanted it. And you thought that that that Jimmy

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Speaker 2: energy after the other night he played forty five. And

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Speaker 2: it's but they're just they're Denver is just too good.

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Speaker 2: They're just too good. And Miami again, obviously we talked

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Speaker 2: before about the injuries and everything you saw last night.

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Speaker 2: Why Denver is such a such a tough team is that,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can have an Aaron Gordon night, you

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Speaker 2: have a night when when Jokic is pretty is you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say bad, but you know Jokis

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Speaker 2: is just okay. Last night he's only eight for nineteen

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Speaker 2: from the floor right, like he's he's pedestrian with those

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Speaker 2: gordy numbers. I mean, he was just okay last night.

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Speaker 2: But there was Aaron Gordon right, there was Brown off

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Speaker 2: the bench, bag in threes, and uh, they're they're just

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Speaker 2: a tough team. I do like that team. I like

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Speaker 2: watching them. I enjoy I enjoy how they play. They're

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Speaker 2: well coached and uh, and now Miami's on the brink.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of what we expected. We talked.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be totally shocked if Monday Night Jimmy came

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Speaker 2: out and went nuts or the Heat and the Heat

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Speaker 2: somehow won Monday Night and then Denver went back to

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Speaker 2: Miami and won it in six. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that's possible because Miami is a vampire type

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Speaker 1: But it's clear that as good as Miami.

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Speaker 2: Is and how they can push teams and everything, I

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Speaker 2: just don't say it feels like the collision course.

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Speaker 1: We thought about it.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it last Saturday, that Denver was this

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Speaker 2: deserving team and that they were finally going to break through.

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Speaker 2: And I you know, again, they go down there and

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Speaker 2: they take care of business. They forget drop a game two.

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Speaker 2: They go down there and it's and truthfully, the games

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Speaker 2: aren't even close. I mean see it. And so the

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Speaker 2: Nuggets on the precipice of the title. Wow, good baseball

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Speaker 2: last night. Uh, I got my main man back. So

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Speaker 2: I'm excited today because he'll indulge me with all the

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Speaker 1: Figure cauz. Good to be back.

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Speaker 3: Throw those rose pedals at the feet of the Denver Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: I love it, yeah, dude, Like you know, guess why

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Speaker 2: they deserve it. I do with you, and I enjoy

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Speaker 2: the way they play. They're well coached.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's fun and they're not you know, there's not

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Speaker 3: a lot of hero ball as great of a player

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Speaker 3: effective game like he did on Friday Night, an understated

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Speaker 3: twenty three and twelve because other guys get off around him.

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Speaker 3: You know, he can pass that, he can be as

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Speaker 3: just as effective as a passer as he can be

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Speaker 3: him to have to be the guy every night. He

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Speaker 3: can get you forty and twenty, but he doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 3: have to. And I'm happy that the Denver Nuggets are

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Speaker 3: kind of getting their due because we discussed this during

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Speaker 3: the regular season. Despite the fact that they had the

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Speaker 3: best record in the Western Conference for the majority of

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Speaker 3: the year, they just were not getting a lot of

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Speaker 3: they really just you know, have not slowed down from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they really have that.

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Speaker 2: I give them a ton of credit, I really do,

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Speaker 2: because you know, I looked at them, hif side eyed,

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Speaker 1: Somebody was at the.

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Speaker 3: Clippers, you know, who are healthy going into that series

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Speaker 3: against Phoenix before Kawhi got hurt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And in reality, and they have You're right,

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Speaker 2: they have rolled through everybody. They've been terrific. And you

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Speaker 2: know I told last week when you were out, I

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Speaker 2: teams that need to win for justice, and it was

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Speaker 2: off of them because let's face it, they haven't won.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's great for that talent to win an

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Speaker 1: NBA title.

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that there's a new town that's

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Speaker 2: actually going to hoist the trust you for the first time.

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Speaker 1: I always think that's a great thing in sports.

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Speaker 3: It's always exciting, like an a long suffering franchise too.

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Speaker 3: You remember for a long period of time, you know,

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Speaker 3: we all remember the giant upset with Matumbo grabbing the

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Speaker 1: You get mellow. You're a good team.

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Speaker 3: They made it to the conference finals one year and

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Speaker 3: lost to the Lakers, but were never really viewed as

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Speaker 3: it they were serious. No, they were never a real

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Speaker 3: serious contender. And the last few years, you know, look,

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Speaker 3: if they can stay healthy, and like, look above anything else.

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Speaker 3: As it is in all sports, but especially the NBA nowadays,

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Speaker 3: it's it's the attrition of it. Who's healthy down the

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Speaker 3: and that's something that you just generally don't see in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta tell you. You want to talk about

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Speaker 2: those lineups. Look at Miami what they have have to

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my goodness. Yeah right, you know ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you wonder what they would be like if

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Speaker 2: they had their full compliment appliers. It would I think

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Speaker 2: it would be an even It would be a even

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely would be more competitive because to your point,

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Speaker 3: even Miami made a run I think it was late third,

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Speaker 3: would I wouldn't even say that Denver as a team

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Speaker 3: that played its greatest game tonight and now, and the

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Speaker 1: Obviously was shoot the ball that well, No, it.

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Speaker 3: Was okay, but it was certainly not his best night,

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Speaker 3: never felt that Denver wasn't in control of the game

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you kidding me.

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Speaker 3: Part of me does feel bad for Jimmy, because you

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Speaker 3: I love Jimmy Butler as well, And if I had

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Speaker 3: I love Denver. In the story, we all love the underdog,

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler, who's like one of just one of the

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Speaker 1: And I mean that, you know, in the positive way.

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Speaker 3: It will be a great story to see if to

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Speaker 3: much as I wanted it to happen, I just didn't

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Speaker 3: so if I thought Denver would win in five. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: all right, maybe it would go six. Assume that he

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Speaker 1: I mean, to your point, you know.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy could have have one of those spectacular nights coming

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Speaker 3: home court advantages there is in all of sports out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because and you heard what we talked

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Speaker 2: we opened the show, I could see Miami something pulling

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Speaker 2: to Miami wins. They're just they're just like you said,

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Speaker 2: like we talked, talked about it. They were a well

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Speaker 1: And they don't have a lot of holes.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, people were concerned about them defensively to

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Speaker 3: start the year. Well after the All Star break, they're

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Speaker 3: one of the best defensive teams in the league. Like

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Speaker 3: they've hailed Miami, who has been one of the best

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Speaker 1: It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, and I wonder, I because I

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Speaker 2: you're right. And I still look at their team and

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Speaker 2: I go, how do you do it? I mean, Gordon's

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Speaker 3: Katavia's Callwell, Pope is a very good defender, and I

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Speaker 3: think he has made a huge difference for.

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Speaker 1: Them this year.

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Speaker 2: Year. I completely agree, very underrated pick up for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And Jokich has gotten better defensively. He's not great, but

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Speaker 3: I mean three block shots certainly can get in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, huge, huge, Yeah, you're spot on. All right,

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Speaker 1: Thing for you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know, and you know I can't I

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Speaker 2: Big News of the week with Lionel MESSI yeah, I

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Speaker 2: was excited for that, dude. I kind of tell you,

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Speaker 2: you know what's funny. I don't know what it is,

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Speaker 3: And look, Messi obviously has lost a bit of a step,

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Speaker 1: It's just it's smart.

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Speaker 3: at the top of my list.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear you. And by the way, uh,

437
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 2: Inter is, so the game is and so Man City

438
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 2: is almost two to one minus one ninety against inter.

439
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 3: Probably sounds about right now, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

440
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Man, I mean Man City should be, yeah,

441
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 2: a distinct favorite.

442
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: It should be. Now, Inter plays a lot.

443
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: You know they're gonna be They're gonna try to slow

444
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 2: them down and play that defensive turtle up kind of play.

445
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: But I and Man Citty's dancing. Man City obviously is great,

446
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 2: so I know it should be interesting watching the fake

447
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: do me a favorite hit me with some chraining. All right.

448
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of Miami at the basketball version, they're on

449
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 3: the ropes now, down three games to one. After the

450
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 3: Nuggets pick up a victory, I want to wait to

451
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Speaker 3: ninety five. On Friday night, Aaron Gordon led all scores

452
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Speaker 3: with twenty seven points. Nikola jokicic twenty three points. He

453
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 3: had twelve rebounds, three steals, and three block shots. Denver

454
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 3: won victory away from the first NBA championship in their

455
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Speaker 3: franchisees history. On to Major League Baseball, Shodio Tanys struck

456
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Speaker 3: out six batters in five innings of work. He also

457
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: hit a home run for the Angels. They beat Seattle

458
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 3: five to four, Padres getting home runs from Fernando Tatis

459
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Speaker 3: Junior and Manny Machado. They defeated Colorado nine to six.

460
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: Cleveland beating Houston ten to nine in fourteen innings. The

461
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: White Sox will walk off victory over Miami Tampa Bay

462
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 3: in eight to three victory over the Rangers. The Braves

463
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 3: picked up their six straight victory after beating Washington Red

464
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Speaker 3: Sox getting home runs from Key Hernandez and Ralfeo Devers,

465
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Speaker 3: and a victory over the Yankees. Phillies walk off the

466
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Speaker 3: Dodgers five to four, Pittsburgh hammering the Mets fourteen to seven.

467
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: Mets have lost seven games in a row and to

468
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Speaker 3: add injury to insult, I guess Alo out at least

469
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 3: three weeks after suffering a wrist injury.

470
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Speaker 1: During a disaster. They really are. It's unreal.

471
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Speaker 2: I mean, look at them. First of all, I didn't

472
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Speaker 2: understand God bless and I say, you know, God bless Verlander. Yeah, boy,

473
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Speaker 2: they spent a ton of money for a guy that,

474
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Speaker 2: at the end last year was leaking oil.

475
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Speaker 3: He was, well, then you met you I'm talking about Yeah, well,

476
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Speaker 3: I mean you're looking over the last couple of days

477
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Speaker 3: between Verlander and your two big money guys, and they

478
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 3: got lit up.

479
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: It's like there's no one does not look anywhere near

480
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: like himself.

481
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Speaker 3: No, those guys are supposed to be your stoppers. They

482
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: got worked over. It's like, where do you even turn to.

483
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, to shame, which happened at the Graham. Yeah,

484
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: but I mean I remember thinking, you're letting the Groam

485
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: walk when you're gonna go sign Erland there.

486
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

487
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the Graham does look like a great

488
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: investment either, which.

489
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Speaker 1: That's why I bring that up about the injury.

490
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's the guy that already has had arm

491
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Speaker 3: injury injuries. You know, it's just tough with pictures and

492
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: you look at look at what happened to Steven Strasburg too,

493
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: you know the fact that his career might be over.

494
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Speaker 2: Uh.

495
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Speaker 3: And I wonder if there's going to end up being

496
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Speaker 3: a seed change when it comes to the way you

497
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 3: structure contracts for starting pitchers, where I think we've seen

498
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 3: a kind of a turn a little bit, especially in

499
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 3: baseball where you might have shorter term contracts with higher

500
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Speaker 3: annual values. So instead of giving Strasburg eight years at

501
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty five million dollars, it might be

502
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: I'll give you four years and just have the higher

503
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 3: annual value of the same money, so you're making fifty

504
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 3: five a year instead of making thirty five a year.

505
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: I think we might see a lot more of that happening.

506
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Speaker 3: You just can't afford to give these guys these long

507
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: term contracts, yeah, and have their.

508
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Speaker 1: Arms fall off because you're screwed after that.

509
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: You know, And figure we were talking about this, there's

510
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that just fall off a cliff.

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah, in a weird way. I mean, look at look

512
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Speaker 1: at Lin Door.

513
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean he's been okay since you

514
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: went to the Mets, but he's nowhere near what he

515
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: was in Cleveland.

516
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Speaker 1: No, No, he's not what they're compensating him for. Absolutely.

517
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Speaker 2: No. There's a lot of you want to talk about.

518
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: We talk about the NBA all the time when it

519
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: comes to Bay contracts.

520
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: But I mean, the Mets are the head of the snake,

521
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: wasn't this? Was there a book what was it called

522
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: The Worst Team that Money bought, can buy or something

523
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 3: like that about the Mets in the early nineties. Yes,

524
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: like it's kind of matter the Bobby ben Yeah, right,

525
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: so they might. I might have to ride in a

526
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: dendum and at the twenty twenty three Mets to it

527
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: as well.

528
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean they're horrible.

529
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: And there's no like no end in sight, like where

530
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: is the Like the one of the bright spots you

531
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 3: did have was Pete a lonzo that's leading the league

532
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: in home runs and now he's out for a while.

533
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: Ye for an offense that's already been struggling as a whole.

534
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: So I did tats in shambles. Yeah, it's not good. Yeah, Micguil,

535
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: who's decent. Oh, gets absolutely annihilated last night by the Pirates, right,

536
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: I mean all of a sudden they're four under and

537
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: they look like they were just sinking like a rock.

538
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dad's rights, and like I some people are like, well, oh,

539
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: they might make a change at manager. And as good

540
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: as he was, yeah, he was just a bit of

541
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 3: a head case when he came to dealing with being

542
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: dealt with in the clubhouse. So that was part of

543
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: the departure with the Dodgers. Had a cup of coffee

544
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: with Cincinnati, there were issues there. Cleveland Atlanta did sign

545
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 3: him to a contractor then he caught COVID and that

546
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 3: fell through. I think you mentioned the gambling, and he

547
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: had the sexual harassment stuff that happened at Staples Center,

548
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 3: and so some off the field things that have kind

549
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: of gotten in the way for him too. But he's

550
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: not old, he's still young. You think you'd get to

551
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: be able to get a crack on a major league roster,

552
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: but with Lindor, I mean, Lindor was a guy who

553
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: was crushing thirty five thirty six home runs a.

554
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Year five tool.

555
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: I'll never forget when the Indians said they weren't going

556
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: to reshign it.

557
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm going on, it looks like, are you guys out

558
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: of your minds?

559
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and think about it, it's the it's

560
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: the best contract ever that they didn't sign.

561
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

562
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: I mean, look, even his first his first star second

563
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: year in New York was good and some home runs,

564
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: had over one hundred rbi. But this season, for whatever reason,

565
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: he's just not getting it done.

566
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: And it's hard, and what is it about.

567
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: It's so interesting because you look at certain guys and

568
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: they look you go all these this dude just start

569
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: this stuff and then and they're almost like kickers where

570
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: they had these huge years maybe streaming together two or

571
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: three years, and then it's off a cliff.

572
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: With like no rhyme or reason to it.

573
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 3: It's I look like if you broke your arm or

574
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: something happened in like something you had a career altering

575
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 3: injury or something.

576
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: Like the pictures you understand because it's always goes back

577
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: to the elbow shoulder. And I still think that they

578
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: don't throw enough. But whatever, it's the one great mystery.

579
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: I was talking about this the other day because the

580
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: Phillies have Cody Clemens and so Roger was at the

581
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: game and you know, he's cranking ninety five and he's

582
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: forty two, you know, forty one, and he was like,

583
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a dude that was just a horse.

584
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: And he was also on the Jews, so that helped.

585
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean how I mean, I don't know.

586
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I don't know how much they

587
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: but you know, and I don't know what that he

588
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: look knowing rhyme is the same way is forty Nowaday

589
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: was great up until the end, but like those guys

590
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: would give you bulks of anies. Yeah for years.

591
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't know what's equate it to today. Like,

592
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: I know, we've talked about the fact that a lot

593
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: of these guys are worn down by the time they

594
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: get to the majors. I know they're throwing more at

595
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: a younger age, which certainly doesn't help them. So I

596
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: can't speak to how what Rogers regiment was when he

597
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: was fifteen, but I highly doubt he was throwing at

598
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: the velocity or at the volume that kids are nowadays.

599
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: And I think that, as much as anything, is probably

600
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: the big reason why these guys are so frail. You know,

601
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: by the time they get to the major leagues at

602
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: twenty one to twenty two, they might as well have

603
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 3: the arm of a thirty two year old because of

604
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: just how much wear and tear and how hard they've

605
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: been throwing.

606
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that kind of Know.

607
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: It's interesting because back in the day, there was do

608
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: you remember Bet McDonald remember I know the name. So

609
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: Ben McDonald was a high draft pick for the Orioles

610
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: and he had pitched at LSU and LSU was like

611
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 2: in the College World Series, and they like threw him

612
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: out like they were. I mean, they were absurd with them,

613
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: like they just did, and they threw him out over

614
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: the two year span, they just wrote him, wrote him,

615
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: and he wound up throwing his arm out. And that's

616
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: when people started to really focus in on you know,

617
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: any these limits and not kits counts per se. But

618
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: it was like the infancy of the pitch count type

619
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: of stuff. And but we we always talked about at

620
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: that point college and now college was the big like

621
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: these college guys his programs. He didn't like pitchers from

622
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: coming from college because they were gonna get they were

623
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: just gonna get used up. And it's interesting because really,

624
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: I think you're right. The problem is all the games

625
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: that you play as kids leading up to you know,

626
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: before you get to the high school and then through

627
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: high school.

628
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the look you have. You have us on

629
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: new places, travel ball. So you can speak to this

630
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: as well as anybody can. You know, these guys, these

631
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: kids are playing, you know, multiple games a week, traveling

632
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: over the places. There's barely an offseason, if there is.

633
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: One at all.

634
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's funny we take off fig we'll

635
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: be done like the first week of July. But then

636
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: we start fallball in at the end of August September.

637
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about a month off basically a

638
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 3: month and a half, two months off.

639
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: Maybe now they do have a winner, you know for

640
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: up in Northeast. We're in Philadelphia, so yeah, you know,

641
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: come you have full ball runs into November and then November, November, December,

642
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: and then workout start in January. Right, It's kind of

643
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: what they are, what the rhythm is.

644
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, in sports in general, I think

645
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: you can kind of equate this to football to a

646
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: degree too. You know, there's so much pride in stay

647
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: in shape year round and do all these workouts and

648
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: make sure it's like, yeah, it's like, you know what,

649
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: do you make fun of these guys for being what

650
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: was the JJ Redick line plumbers and whatever else for

651
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: guys back in the day. Maybe that's why there are

652
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: somewhere doing so much durable.

653
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: On the you know, wat shit title on that because

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Speaker 2: I want to finish that flow. It's a great point

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Speaker 2: where the fella is hanging on. This Saturday morning, June

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Speaker 2: the tenth, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're just talking about the we're talking about

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Speaker 2: in our baseball mode and talking about how the Mets.

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Speaker 2: That just the complete demid of the Mets. And I

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Speaker 2: think one of the Verlas issues was he pitted so

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Speaker 2: many Indians lations and he was so great last year

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Speaker 2: for the Astros, I mean the regular season he was amazing,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he started to show

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Speaker 2: become hittable. We saw Seattle. If you remember in the

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Speaker 2: wild Card, if Philly's got to in the World Series,

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Speaker 2: like he got it, he got backed and he was

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Speaker 2: on the ropes a few times too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of wonder if he's, uh, if he's

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Speaker 3: losing it a little bit. Which is funny because you know,

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Speaker 3: there was a period of time, what was it toward

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Speaker 3: the ends of his tenure in Detroit and when people like, oh,

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Speaker 3: this guy didn't have it and he gets traded to Houston,

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Speaker 3: turns it back around, helps win a World Series. But

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Speaker 3: you know, guys in his forties, like this is kind

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Speaker 3: of gonna happen. The guys are not gonna be able

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Speaker 3: to be dominant their entire you know, careers, the drop

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Speaker 3: off is gonna happen. You just never know when when

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Speaker 3: that's gonna when that's gonna occur. So it's unfortunate, especially

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Speaker 3: for the Mets, because of all the money that you've

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Speaker 3: tied yourself into. But again, this happens when you decide

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Speaker 3: to go out and free agency and pay a bunch

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Speaker 3: of guys all this money, especially guys who are up

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Speaker 3: there in age. You know you're you're hitching your wagon

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Speaker 3: to a couple of forty year olds with injury history,

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Speaker 3: and that you're kind of playing Russian roulette.

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Speaker 2: Yes, philosophically, can you count on are we? Let mean,

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Speaker 2: I need to phrase the question correctly. Are we in

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Speaker 2: an era of sustain greatness? Like we are? We are

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Speaker 2: we right now?

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Speaker 1: Players?

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Speaker 2: And I guess you could almost go across sports and

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Speaker 2: look at consistency of greatness, like in baseball, consistency numbers

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Speaker 2: it it doesn't really it's it really varies from year

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Speaker 2: to year with guys.

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Speaker 3: It can I mean, I think like and I think

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Speaker 3: only the players at the very top of their sports

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Speaker 3: are the ones who have that sustained success. I mean,

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Speaker 3: look at Clayton Kershaw has never really had a massive

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Speaker 3: drop off front. Now he's had his playoff issues, but

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Speaker 3: year though, Yeah, he's having a great year right now.

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Speaker 1: And last year was really good.

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Speaker 3: He's had some injuries sprinkled in there, but when he's

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Speaker 3: been healthy, he's been great. Tom Brady played for twenty years, spectacular,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers has been around forever, has been great. Lebron

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Speaker 3: James twenty plus years. So these are anomalies. So I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't say it's the norm per se. But the guys

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Speaker 3: that are able to stay healthy, the guys who were

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Speaker 3: able to adjust their games. You know, Kershaw had a

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Speaker 3: lot more power behind his pitches when he was younger.

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Speaker 3: He evolved as a pitcher. Lebron James became a better

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Speaker 3: He's not great, but he's a better outside shoot er

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Speaker 3: now than he was ten years ago, you know. So

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Speaker 3: you know, guys find ways to adjust within the game.

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Speaker 3: Those are the ones who have sustained success. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're in the era of it. Look, nutrition is better,

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Speaker 3: workouts are better, all of that. So I'm sure that

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Speaker 3: has a lot to do with it.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like there's more volatility.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I also think I mean, if you go, let me,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you go two thousand, right, you just

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Speaker 2: take it twenty years and you go back to two

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Speaker 2: thousand or whatever, two thousand and three to be exact,

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Speaker 2: do you do you have more consistency than you do today?

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Speaker 3: I mean as far as consistency, you mean, like just

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Speaker 3: to stay success for individual players. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'd have to kind of take a close look and

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Speaker 3: variables today. Yeah, anecdotally, i'd say probably, But oft the time, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, I know it's a hard question because I'm asking

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Speaker 2: to do this off the top of your head and

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Speaker 2: just thinking. It just feels like there's more volatility that

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Speaker 2: you have spikes you have, spikes are greatness, but then

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Speaker 2: you have guys like that You go, oh, well he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be great and.

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Speaker 3: They fix you ask why that is? But yeah, we

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Speaker 3: can get the Fellas right here. Fuck sports radio.

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Speaker 1: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Happy Saturday.

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Speaker 2: get the big ee. What's happening in Big E. You're good,

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Speaker 2: I'm good. Hanging some good baseball last night. Dodgers Phillies

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Speaker 2: sixth straight. Yeah, that was a good, good game.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Dodgers tie it bang bang scene and swore burn a

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Speaker 2: walk off. It's on candy when guys fake Schwarber has

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Speaker 2: been I mean he was hitting one forty eight something right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean he's got a way two twenty two thirty yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean and then all of a sudden, June hits

757
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Speaker 2: and this dude heats up, and you know, it's on Candy.

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Speaker 1: Ow.

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Speaker 2: Guys, all of a sudden, if they're a June guy,

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Speaker 2: June wake up like clockwork. He's back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a big boost for the fills, like the

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Speaker 3: cube turned in the corner a little bit earlier than

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Speaker 3: they did last year, ready for another big run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, interesting.

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Speaker 3: I know they were sweating a bit after those those

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Speaker 3: back to back homers from my Mookie Bets and Freddie Freeman,

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Speaker 3: especially after as well as Rangels Warwiz has pitched to

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Speaker 3: that point. I know he's just working his way back,

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Speaker 3: so they couldn't let him go super deep.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, no, yeah no, it's just you know

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Speaker 2: what that was. That was just too That was two

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Speaker 2: good teams just going at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It was good, just good baseball, a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it really was. Of course, got our sound

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Speaker 2: engineer money, Mark. We say, Marky, what's going on? Figure?

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Speaker 1: Mark was all chatty last week?

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Speaker 2: I know you. I had Mark. I had Mark. He

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Speaker 2: was cracking up and he was cracking jokes.

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Speaker 1: Love it, breaking out of the show a little bit, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Brother, trying to be helpful, that's all.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, you're a team Mark is a team guy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's this team guy.

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Speaker 1: You'll do whatever you need.

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Speaker 2: He does, I got I give him mighty many props. Uh,

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Speaker 2: the fellas as we hang out, all right, so let's

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Speaker 2: get I want to continue this conversation because I'm fasted

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Speaker 2: on the like when we look at the state of

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Speaker 2: guys today and I'm trying to figure out, is it

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Speaker 2: if the consistency is still there? Like you said, I

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Speaker 2: agree with you. When you have the top usher upper echelon.

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Speaker 2: It's still there, but there was a lot of volatility

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Speaker 2: in that next tier. And is it the trappings. It

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Speaker 2: could be just you know, guys just get paid obscene

795
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Speaker 2: amount of money and it and it's just human nature

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Speaker 2: just to drop off a tick or two.

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Speaker 1: Or is it like the Zion you know, when he's

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Speaker 1: going through.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's part of it. I do think

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Speaker 3: being in the social media age changes things. Guys are

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Speaker 3: more under the microscope than more so than they ever

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Speaker 3: have been, and some guys just aren't ready for it. It

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Speaker 3: could be too much too soon, especially I would say,

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Speaker 3: especially in a sport like the NBA, where I mean

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Speaker 3: guys are superstars. I mean, LaMelo Ball had over a

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Speaker 3: million followers.

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Speaker 1: When he was thirteen.

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Speaker 3: I know, you know, like it's so and it's only

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Speaker 3: going to get I use the word worse.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's good or bad. It just is.

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Speaker 1: But some guys are able to handle it and some

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Speaker 1: guys aren't. So I do.

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Speaker 3: I do think that's a that's a part of a

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Speaker 3: big part of it. If we're talking dependent of injuries

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Speaker 3: that have happened, If if we're talking about guys falling

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Speaker 3: off due to injury. There's there's certain reasons behind that too,

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Speaker 3: But if it's just independent of that and guys just

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Speaker 3: being good one day and falling off a cliff the next,

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Speaker 3: I do think the amount of public scrutiny and the

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Speaker 3: amount of pressure that's on guys at younger ages, I

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Speaker 3: do think is a is a major factor in that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm almost putting it all.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you lump everything into it, you lump

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Speaker 2: injuries because we talked about overtraining and you were now

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Speaker 2: I think he now because you know, to the point

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Speaker 2: there the plumber, the guy who had the off season job,

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Speaker 2: didn't overtrain and didn't stress all those tendons and ligaments.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you had time to rest. You know, you just don't.

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Speaker 3: And on top of the fact, now to the NBA specifically,

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Speaker 3: if we're going to go sports specific with it, like

831
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Speaker 3: the pace, the pace that the game is being played

832
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Speaker 3: at now is quite literally the fastest it ever has

833
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Speaker 3: been by a wide margin. Guys are running up and

834
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Speaker 3: down the floor at just gazelle like intensity, night in,

835
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Speaker 3: night out, every single night, NonStop. And that's gonna add

836
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Speaker 3: wear and tear. That's kind of a low management is

837
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Speaker 3: born out of it's because we're playing playing at such

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Speaker 3: a fast pace. We're trying to avoid the acl and

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Speaker 3: the Achilles, the wear and terror type injuries that these

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Speaker 3: guys suffer. But toil your point where we were talking

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Speaker 3: about last hour, it doesn't help when these guys are

842
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Speaker 3: doing full on runs. You know, in the off season

843
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Speaker 3: in July, these guys are our Record Park or they're

844
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Speaker 3: at Drew League and then they're doing all these open

845
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Speaker 3: court runs and just literally give themselves no time to rest.

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Speaker 1: All that stuff builds up too.

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Speaker 3: It's not just that the rigors of an eighty two

848
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Speaker 3: game season, whether you're playing all eighty two or not,

849
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Speaker 3: which nobody does anymore, is what you do in the

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Speaker 3: off season. It's the staying on top of training and

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Speaker 3: doing all that that all of that factors into it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know it's fascinating right like when

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Speaker 2: we're when we're thinking about, you know, all that all

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Speaker 2: that wear and tear and all that could because one

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Speaker 2: of the things that we look at is you, well

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Speaker 2: you got I did. I'm in the lab, I'm working out.

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Speaker 2: It's like I just Ben Simmons just came up on

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Speaker 2: my timeline.

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Speaker 1: I'm here.

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Speaker 2: He is you know he's shirtless. Okay, God blessed dude, Like,

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Speaker 2: you're you're in great shape. Listen your work out. I

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Speaker 2: give you all all the credit in the world, But

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Speaker 2: what does it really mean.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Is I gonna help him make a

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Speaker 1: free throw?

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Speaker 2: Exactly?

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Speaker 1: Like, no disrespect to his work out.

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Speaker 3: Read it's like, you can have the greatest physique in

869
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 3: the world, are you a better basketball player?

870
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: Well that yes, Like that's that's kind of the point, right,

871
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: whereas twenty years ago, Kobe's not worth It's not you know,

872
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: you may.

873
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: Be working out and whatever, but he's he's playing ball.

874
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was his next And if you're doing that,

875
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: like if look, if you're in the gym and you're

876
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: working on your jump shot or working on some post

877
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: moves and all that, that's fine. But if you're doing

878
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: full court runs, you know, six days a week in

879
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: the off season and you know, or if you're just

880
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: lifting weights at an incredible clip, if that's what Ben

881
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: Simmons or whoever else is doing, I don't think that's

882
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: the best for you either. That's just extra load and

883
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: extra wear and tear that you don't need.

884
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember Kobe talking about like how you would

885
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: have to get up a thousand shots today. And it

886
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: was always about becoming a better shooter and repetition and

887
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: repetition yep, and that that's a big deal.

888
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: It is that that's the kind of workout that you

889
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: want to do. And look, Kobe used to do open

890
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: runs and all that as well, but he certainly didn't

891
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: do it as consistently as these guys do it now.

892
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: No, I mean he could do it, like you said,

893
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: six days a week.

894
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he know, he knew how to pay attention to

895
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: his body. He knew when to ramp up the intensity

896
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: and went to scale it back, you know. And so

897
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 3: he was at the forefront two of all these you know,

898
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: cryogenicis and all this other stuff. Kobe did everything to

899
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 3: try to keep his body well and in shape. But

900
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: you have to be smart about it. There's working hard

901
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: and staying in shape, but there's also been working smart

902
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 3: and not doing too much either.

903
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that goes back we were taught.

904
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: We got on this discussion of longevity and the volatility

905
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: of the really like the not the upper the top

906
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: excellent players, but that next tier. There seems to be

907
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: a lot of volatility these days and we're trying to

908
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: attribute what is that and is it You know, it's

909
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 2: part physical with injuries that we're talking about, it's also

910
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: part and we just touched on this just a moment ago,

911
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: but it's it's we got to dive into it. The

912
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: trappings like John Moran, right, Zion, I mean in that case,

913
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: and you know, I kind of feel bad for him

914
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 2: because here you have all this all of a sudden,

915
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: you have this incredible celebrity and let's face it, you're

916
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: a young dude. You want to meet women in the

917
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: next thing. You know, it's just out of control, right

918
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: and you listen, We've seen that take down many people.

919
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is why they talk about the importance

920
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: of your your inner circle and who you surround yourself with,

921
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: you know, the best influences for you. And it's all

922
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: it's easy for all of us to sit here and

923
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: say this too.

924
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: At this point, we're we're a little bit older.

925
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: We never have to be exposed to the trappings that

926
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: these guys were exposed to at that age, you know,

927
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: so I try to be you know, empathetic and recognize

928
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: that it's not something that I can't guarantee that I

929
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't act the same way that some of these guys

930
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 3: did if I was in their situation. The guns, I feel.

931
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: If women throwing themselves at you, yeah all the time.

932
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that the guns, I feel fairly confident that I

933
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't that that's I think that's a little bit of

934
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: a different plane. But that's also about who you surround

935
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: yourself with.

936
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 2: But this is oh yeah, I mean I do think

937
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: that that's completely then that that's ridiculous. Like in my mind,

938
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: like the one thing you can't be is you can't

939
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: be a gangster the kid walking around like you know,

940
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 2: you just can't. You can't do that. With the Zion

941
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: situation is just, hey, here's a kid, you know, Like,

942
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: first of all, you could see that he is a

943
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: you know that kind of dude, that's an excess guy,

944
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: and we're all wired differently, sure, and I could never

945
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: I can never throw stones. I feel like I kind

946
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: of feel for him because you could see it. And

947
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: then he had the other issue, which is he can't

948
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: stay healthy. He's not in shape. It's a terrible look,

949
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: which is a shame for him.

950
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: That's the problem.

951
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: If Zion was playing every single night and averaging twenty

952
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: five and fourteen and making deep runs into the playoffs.

953
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 3: This will still be a story, but I don't think

954
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: it will be as big of a deal if he

955
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: was being a productive basketball player. So the fact that

956
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: he's I can't say that he's a bust because he's Look,

957
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: he's played, he's been an All Star, he's had some

958
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: productive years. He just can't stay on the court. But yeah,

959
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: not enough though, too true. No, you're right, you're right.

960
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: So all these things are going to be magnified. Anytime

961
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: you do something that is under a negative light off

962
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 3: the court and you're not on the court to be

963
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: able to dispel any of it or distract away from it,

964
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: that ends up becoming the story above anything else. And

965
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 3: that's what that's what ends up hurting, you know, Zion

966
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: Josh completely different. I don't know exactly what's happened with him.

967
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, joh, that's that's and that's a

968
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 2: shame in another way, which is yeah, it's.

969
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: Almost work to wake up.

970
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 2: Man.

971
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 3: If if it is, if it indeed is true that

972
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 3: he was playing with a fake gun on the last

973
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: Instagram video, that's even worse because you basically lie to

974
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: the face of the commissioner and you're kind of flaunting

975
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: it and making fun of it for all the world

976
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 3: to see.

977
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 1: Again.

978
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah and again. You know you got to stand for something,

979
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah you do.

980
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: You just do what he's not with the post. Stop

981
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: being a poser.

982
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: But also, like and like for me, your word has

983
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: to mean something. If you're gonna sit there and tell

984
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: the commissioner that I'm apologizing, I'm going to counseling, this

985
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: is not gonna happen again, and then two three weeks

986
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: later you do the exact same thing.

987
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: What does your word mean at that point? Your word

988
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: means nothing.

989
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Memphis. Yeah, you had to deal

990
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: with the two guys, you guy God Dylan Brooks too.

991
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, jeez. And you wonder really what what

992
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: and what is that? Is that just also part of

993
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: the we talked about the trappings of today.

994
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: Uh maybe I think Deyling Brooks is just a guy

995
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: who's just trying to make a name for himself wherever

996
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 3: he can.

997
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: No without a doubt, But that's also part of it,

998
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: right because social media and you want to you want

999
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: the whole thing like he is organized.

1000
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, possibly I see that more with him on I'm

1001
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 3: kind of a I won't call him fledgling. I mean

1002
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 3: before the playoffs when he was just got awful, just

1003
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 3: a solid player. And last year in the postseason he

1004
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: was great for them. When Job was you know, in

1005
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: and out, he was phenomenal for them. So he was

1006
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: a good NBA player. But for whatever reason, he decides

1007
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: that he wanted to take shots to Draymond Green and

1008
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: take shot to Lebron James decided he just wanted to

1009
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: get mouthy and raise his profile. He just ended up

1010
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 3: looking worse because if you're going to talk to talk,

1011
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 3: you gotta walk the walk, and you can't start talking

1012
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: trash and then play, you know, play like a G

1013
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: League guy, which is basically what he was in the postseason.

1014
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: So but with Job, the problem there is, you know,

1015
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks is a free agent, they can let him walk.

1016
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: H Joh's locked in for a while. It really is

1017
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: a phenomenal playerchise easily. But now it's like you're are

1018
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: you questioning whether or not you should have hitched your

1019
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: wagon to this guy who clearly makes errors in judgment. Yeah,

1020
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: granted he hasn't broken any laws, but still you do

1021
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 3: something you get admonished for it. And then you go

1022
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: back and you apologize, and then you go back do

1023
00:50:59,080 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 3: the exact same thing.

1024
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: It's not just something when you again you're talking guns,

1025
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: and you know, it's just it's.

1026
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: A bad look the whole I want to be a

1027
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: gangster and for what at this level?

1028
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 3: Why why you can hire all the bodyguards in the

1029
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: world you have No, there's no need for.

1030
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 2: You to have a gun, zero, none, No, It's the truth.

1031
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: I'll never forget. There was a an NBA player back

1032
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: in the day who went up to a local let's

1033
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: call him a underworld figure, all right, who had some

1034
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: celebrity okay, and they were in the nightclub and the

1035
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: guy and the player walks up to the gangster and

1036
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: goes gangster first, and the underworld character says to him, listen, you.

1037
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: Play basketball being athlete, I'll do the gangster.

1038
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: I love it. And I remember thinking, because I remember

1039
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: seeing that conversation going, you know what, that's actually great advice.

1040
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: It is like, just there's no need to do why

1041
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: would you want to choose that?

1042
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: Right?

1043
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: Go be an athlete. That's a beautiful thing, and you

1044
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: could do a lot of good in the world.

1045
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: Yes, work hard, make your money on the up and

1046
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: up right.

1047
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: It's like you don't need to be walking around with cash, right,

1048
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: Like you don't need to do that.

1049
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to act hard for who for what? Is

1050
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: still a line from Ricky Waters trying to impress play ball.

1051
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: There's so much thing, so much good that you you know,

1052
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: with that gift that you were given. It's his dude

1053
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: sometimes and we're gonna totally have to talk about the

1054
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: live PGA merger absolutely and Bryce and d Chambeau. What

1055
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: the hell is he talking about?

1056
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: Just like that's a hate a ball some people shouldn't

1057
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: talk Like when.

1058
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: He says that, that makes me hate him, like it

1059
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: makes me root against him. Now, yeah, like are you

1060
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: kidding me? You were telling people have lost family or

1061
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: an attack on American soil.

1062
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: And just to slough it off people make mistakes?

1063
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 2: What Yeah, yeah, fig what are you talking about? Dude?

1064
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: It's bad.

1065
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: I uh, we have a we have a piece of

1066
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 3: the audio we can play if we want to do

1067
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: that in the next segment for those who didn't hear

1068
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: exactly what the price.

1069
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: Is, so well let's do that.

1070
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I got news for you. That's that's like

1071
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: half treason. Yeah, the way I say it. Yeah, take

1072
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: it quick to you, Mike God where the fellas hanging

1073
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,600
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1074
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,000
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1075
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,400
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1076
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,640
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1077
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,399
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1078
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: Ah, welcome back. You know what I was just diving

1079
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: in two fig.

1080
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles defensive line rotation.

1081
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 2: No, I'm closed. I was diving into a little new

1082
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 2: coaches in college football, okay, and uh, with their plans

1083
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: are for the quarterback? For instance, do you know who

1084
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: so Q Freeze is a is it all burned correct?

1085
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: Right?

1086
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: Yes? And you know he's leaning at a quarterback? It

1087
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 2: was that. How about that Peyton Thorn.

1088
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 1: That Peyton Thorn still around?

1089
00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: Huh, he's still around. He's still around. Peyton Thorn, who

1090
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: was horrendous at Michigan State. Yeah, horrendous.

1091
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: I mean the state of the Auburn You know, quarterback

1092
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: situation has not been the best over the year.

1093
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: So if that's the best they can do.

1094
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: Peyton Thorn, Wow, are you kidding me?

1095
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 3: Might be another long year for the Tigers.

1096
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say take the under.

1097
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: She's because they only have twelve starters coming back. Yeah,

1098
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: that's gonna be.

1099
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 1: A tough one.

1100
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: I do think Freeze can turn the program around pretty quickly, though,

1101
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: we know we can.

1102
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: Really he's a great coach, Listen, I like him too.

1103
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: I think he's a really good coach. But again, you

1104
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: know you're gonna have to build it. Yeah, and Peyton

1105
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: thorns that that transfer portal, Man, all those dudes that

1106
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: were just horrible, Yeah, get another chance in another situation.

1107
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: They do because well it's no different than coaches in

1108
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: the pros. And they think they can fix a guy.

1109
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 3: They think they the magical sir. The portal has made

1110
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: it that.

1111
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1112
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Well, look because a lot of these guys were

1113
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: highly recruited, so they're like, there must be a reason

1114
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: why they are so highly recruited. Nobody looks deep into

1115
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 3: the reason. I'm sure they do them speaking just to

1116
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, but looks into the reason as to

1117
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: why they lost out to the guy they lost out to,

1118
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 3: you know, at their previous destination. There's also something to

1119
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: be said for sticking it out and not transferring just

1120
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 3: because you didn't win the starting job as a freshman.

1121
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: And that's that's the part of the transfer portal. I'm

1122
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: not the biggest fan of either. There's a certain level

1123
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: of adversity waiting your turn, you know, paying your Yeah.

1124
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: I mean if you go to a place and you

1125
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: get recruited by coach and the next thing you know,

1126
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: the coach is gone and you're somebody else comes and

1127
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: sure that's different. They don't like you. I mean, that's

1128
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: that's that's why you have that. But to your point,

1129
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: just because you get beat out, you can't run, Oh,

1130
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: work harder, earn it next year, you know. Yeah, we gotta.

1131
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: I want to discuss this anyway. When last we laugh,

1132
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: we were talking about the merger and Brice and d

1133
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: Champeau you have you said you had some audio, you

1134
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: have the audio of it.

1135
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1136
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 3: So we did an interview on CNN earlier this week

1137
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 3: talking about the merger, and towards the end of the interview,

1138
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: the interviewer, Caitlin Collins, you know, ask them about the

1139
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: fact that the you know, the wealth fund from Saudi Arabia,

1140
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 3: you know, is it ties to the government that had

1141
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: issues obviously were tied to nine to eleven in the

1142
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: tax and also tied to the to the murder of

1143
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: an American journalist So the bite that I have actually

1144
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: begins with her question to Bryson and then Bryson's answer

1145
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: after that.

1146
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: So here here's their exchange.

1147
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 6: It's not just about nine to eleven. What does it

1148
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 6: make you uncomfortable at all? Because it's not just that

1149
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 6: they're accused of financing, they also are accused of killing

1150
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 6: a Washington Post reporter, Jamal kas Shogi. How do you

1151
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 6: feel knowing that that is where the money is batched by?

1152
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, look, it's unfortunate what has happened, and

1153
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 7: that's something I cannot necessarily speak on is I'm a golfer.

1154
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 7: But what I can say is that what they're trying

1155
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 7: to do, what they're trying to work on, is to

1156
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 7: be better allies, because we are allies with them. And look,

1157
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 7: I'm not going to get into politics of it. I'm

1158
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 7: not specialized in that. But what I can say is

1159
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 7: they are trying to do good for the world and

1160
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 7: showcase themselves in a light that hasn't been seen in

1161
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 7: a while. And nobody's perfect, but we're all trying to

1162
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 7: improve in life.

1163
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: Nobody's perfect.

1164
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to do good for the world. Wow, Okay, there, buddy,

1165
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: Just because you took the check. Doesn't mean you could

1166
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: say people are trying to do good for the world.

1167
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 2: You took to check.

1168
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 3: I would much rather you just say, you know what

1169
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: they offered me life changing money.

1170
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: I was.

1171
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: I was very conflicted, but it was just hard for

1172
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: me to say no at a financial opport like this. Now,

1173
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: some people would still hate him, but I think that

1174
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 3: would have gone over a lot better. At least you

1175
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 3: would have been honest instead of saying that they're trying

1176
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 3: to do good things for the world and that it's unfortunate.

1177
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: I mean unfortunate. Really, I mean, that's so bad.

1178
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: Wow, it is.

1179
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: It's just it's just not it's not right. It's just

1180
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: a hat. It's a horrible. Look.

1181
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's what you were going to say, and

1182
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm assuming he got prepped because he knew they were

1183
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: gonna ask him about this, that's what you came up with,

1184
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: I'd rather just not talk at all.

1185
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I gotta tell you, I just

1186
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: think that's just the pinous. It just is just terrible. Man,

1187
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 2: Come on and that or it's a shame, because it's

1188
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: not a shame, but the reality is that SoundBite from

1189
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: that interview he just becomes a.

1190
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 3: Revile figure, absolutely almost for all of time. There's almost

1191
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 3: no snow coming back from that statement.

1192
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: Let's face it, of all the athletes, you know, golfers

1193
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: are the ones that fight that spoiled, wealthy, you know,

1194
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: unlikable tag.

1195
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: Well, look and Bryson's kind of had this tag against

1196
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 3: them already to a degree anyway. So I mean, well,

1197
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 3: you know about the Brooks and Bryson you know feud

1198
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 3: from a couple of years ago. Most people were kind

1199
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: of on the brook side and not the Bryson side.

1200
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: He's always been a little prickly, a little arrogant. Whatever

1201
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: word you want to use, you know.

1202
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: Is the word. And then you come out and you

1203
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: compel it with that, Yeah, people try to do good

1204
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 2: for the world. Okay, really because you took the check.

1205
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they offered you millions of dollars, they're trying

1206
01:00:58,880 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 3: to do good for the world.

1207
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's to check, all right, whatever, But that

1208
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: you can't come out.

1209
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 3: You can't say that, No, just say they offered life

1210
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 3: changing money. I decided to take it. Yeah, And that's

1211
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 3: that's kind of where it sits.

1212
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and leave it at the internal conflict whatever you

1213
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: want to talk about.

1214
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: Sure, but don't don't say that what happened on nine

1215
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: to eleven was unfortunate. Yeah, yeah, that's that is Oh

1216
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 3: that makes total disrespect. Yeah, it makes your skin from

1217
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 3: one of the great tragedies in the history of the

1218
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 3: modern world.

1219
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's just awful. Anyway, watch you hit this

1220
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: with some trending my brother.

1221
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 3: All right, Well, go to the NBA Finals and the

1222
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 3: different Nuggets are commanding three to one series lead over

1223
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: the Heat. They notched at one away to ninety five

1224
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 3: victory in South Beach on Friday Night, a playoff career

1225
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 3: high for Aaron Gordon twenty seven points, eleven to fifteen,

1226
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 3: shooting three to four from three point distance. Nikole Jokic

1227
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 3: had twenty three points, twelve boards, three block shots. Denver

1228
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 3: can clinch their first NBA championship in the team's history

1229
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: if they get a victory in Game five on Monday nights.

1230
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: Go to Major League Baseball show Yo Tani five innings

1231
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: on the mound. He was three for four at the

1232
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: plate and hit a home run for the Angels. They

1233
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 3: beat Seattle five to four, cub snapping a four game

1234
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 3: losing streak. They beat the Giants in San Francisco three

1235
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: to two. San Diego over Colorado nine to six, Fernando

1236
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 3: Tazzis Junior and Manny Machado with home runs and that

1237
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 3: one Kyle Schwarbury walk off home run, leaving the Phillies

1238
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 3: over the Dodgers Cleveland, handing Houston their fourth consecutive lost

1239
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: a ten to nine victory in fourteen innings. A battle

1240
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: between the two best teams of the best records in baseball,

1241
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: Texas and Tampa Bay, the Rays coming out on top

1242
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 3: eight to three. Cabrian Hayes five hits for Pittsburgh. They

1243
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 3: hammered the Mets fourteen to seven. Mets have lost seven

1244
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: games in a row and they lose first basement Pete

1245
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 3: Alonzo for at least three weeks after he suffered a

1246
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: bone bruise and his left wrist back to the fellas.

1247
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 2: You imagine it with the and peck you fig can

1248
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: you imagine you're a Met fan? Such optimist eye hope

1249
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: he was, so, you know, optimistic about the season, and

1250
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: here it is June and it's a they're just plummeting

1251
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: to earth.

1252
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 3: Now. One thing I will say, it is still early enough.

1253
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 3: You can turn things around. I don't remember. I'm sure

1254
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: you do. Where were the Phillies this time last.

1255
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 2: Year twenty when they turnaround came, they were twenty and

1256
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: twenty six and they fired Joe Girardi.

1257
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 3: Right, So I mean the Mets that now were sitting

1258
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 3: at thirty and thirty four.

1259
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: Yep.

1260
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: So it's it's not all doom and gloom. I guess

1261
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 3: you could in some senses turn it around.

1262
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't.

1263
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: The reason why I think it's old dooman gloom is

1264
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: I don't see them turning it around. How they're pitching

1265
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: easy shambles.

1266
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: And it's like if they have some hot prospect that

1267
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 3: can call up to like, you know, light a fire

1268
01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: under them, right, and now you lose Alonzo, so that's

1269
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: kind of underachievers. Yeah, even with Alonso in the lineup,

1270
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 3: you're not hitting, so you're just going to rely on

1271
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 3: you know, McNeil and Nemo heating up and Lindora turning

1272
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 3: into the Lindor you thought he was. So you're basically

1273
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: asking for a lot of things to happen. Now they can,

1274
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 3: but it just doesn't seem likely. And it's not like

1275
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: Atlanta's going anywhere. They're probably going to continue to pull away.

1276
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 3: I guess the the added wild card. Look, it helped

1277
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 3: Philly last year, so maybe that's something that can kind

1278
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: of keep the Mets in the race.

1279
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're in a tough spot. There is this

1280
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: not really a light at the end.

1281
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 8: You know.

1282
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 2: The problem that they have is with the wild card

1283
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: is that there's some good young teams. Yeah, there are

1284
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: that will see if they can sustain. But I think,

1285
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: like I look at Arizona. I think Arizona's the.

1286
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 3: Truth, Arizona spectacular, corporate, Carol amazing, two more home runs.

1287
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 3: I had a great get a great game yesterday afternoon. Absolutely.

1288
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1289
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: So I mean you look at the I mean you

1290
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 3: look at the Iriates. Yeah, not only the Pirates are

1291
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 3: going anywhere. We know the Brewers are still good. The

1292
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 3: Marlins they fade, but they may not we'll see.

1293
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: You know whatever you want about the Marlins, but they

1294
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: always have young talent.

1295
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: They do for for a while until they sell them off,

1296
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: right right, So I mean there's there. It's an uphill battle,

1297
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: to say the least. That's probably an understatement for the Mets.

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Speaker 3: But you have to have a payroll that high to

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01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 3: be underachieving this poorly and it's not like they've had

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01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: this ginormous rash of injuries, you know, that's taken out

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 3: major players for long stretches of time until now with Alonzo.

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Speaker 2: You know, i'd you like to be the owner own

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Speaker 2: his hair out.

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01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure.

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01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: Spend all that money and then and you're just a mock,

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01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: because the Mets are always a mock in that town. Yeah,

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01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: and then when they you spend all the money and underachieve,

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01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: it just gets even worse.

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 3: But I'll also say, like, if you look at the

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01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 3: teams who are the better teams in the league at

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01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: least right now, there are you. They're pretty much the

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01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 3: ones that have outside of Texas, I guess for the

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01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 3: most part, guys who would really groom their own homegrown talent.

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01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 3: They haven't made a lot of ginormous free agency splashes.

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01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 3: Look at Arizona. Arizona's is rebuilt basically from guys in

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01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: their own system. I know that people is. Yes, the

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01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 3: Dodgers have Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman, but they're getting

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01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 3: a lot of production from a lot of their younger

1319
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: guys that they've called up this year. You know, I

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01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 3: mean the Braves mostly homegrown guys Pittsburgh's off to a

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01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 3: good start, homegrown guys, Tampa's always homegrown, Baltimore's back in

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01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: the mix, HOMEWORWK. So like going out and spending money

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01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: on all these free agents and trading away all your

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01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 3: best players.

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01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: What it does.

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01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 3: If everybody's healthy and it works out, it's great, But

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01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 3: you basically have no margin for error. If and when

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01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: those guys happen to get injured or they happen to struggle,

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01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 3: you have nothing to fall back on. And I think

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 3: that's where the Mets are right now.

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Speaker 2: Huge problem.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, because they, you know, put up

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01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: fourteen against the Mets, and that's it. That's a franchise

1343
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 2: that I have a heart.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: I root for definitely, right, Like we talk about the

1346
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: Nuggets and how the Nugs it's great for them. This

1347
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: salt thing is fantastic, right, but man, the Pirates. Isn't

1348
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: it nice to see the Pirates? You know? For those

1349
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: people to have a little talent? Man, I think it's

1350
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 2: their lineup is good.

1351
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 3: Very good, good, young, productive lineup. You got the Winsky

1352
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: is excellent.

1353
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 3: Cabrian Hayes has been great and he had a phenomenal

1355
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 3: night on Friday night getting McCutcheon the old vet back

1356
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 3: in there too. Relive the glory days a little bit.

1357
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 3: They're a young, exciting team like and they're one of

1358
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 3: those you hope they're able to keep it together. You know,

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01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 3: the fact that they were able to to to re

1360
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 3: sign Brian Reynolds was big because there was talk of

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01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: them trading him in the off season, that he didn't

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Speaker 3: want to be there, or.

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Speaker 1: That he wanted more money whatever.

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01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 2: It was.

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01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 3: Uh Like, for a franchise like that to keep somebody

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01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 3: like that to be a part of their future is

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Speaker 3: really cool. Yeah, I'm with you because you don't really

1368
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 3: you don't see that. You never see that, never see that.

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01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 2: Now I'm I'm and that's why I think it's good

1370
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: for this sport.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, between the pirates.

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01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 2: And then if you go a little further west and

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01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 2: you get the call up of that Ellie de la Cruz. Yes,

1374
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: I mean that's a great story.

1375
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 3: You see how fast that guy flies around the basis,

1376
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 3: It is amazing. You want to see that guy race

1377
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 3: a horse. I mean, my god, I went from first

1378
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 3: to third in the blink of an eye. It's it's unreal.

1379
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 3: He hit a ball against the Dodgers earlier this week.

1380
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 3: That what's sort of into the gap. It's a double

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01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 3: for any normal human being. And he'd be legged that

1382
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 3: out for a triple. Had that gone like you know,

1383
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: maybe you know a few more yards back, he would

1384
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 3: have had an inside the park home run easily standing up.

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Speaker 1: That kid is incredible.

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: He is, man, he there is. That's one of the

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01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 2: great I think great things of baseball is the phenom. Yeah,

1388
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: like when your team has a young phenom that it's

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01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: such a big deal.

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Speaker 3: I would say, especially in you know, for organizations you

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 3: mentioned like Pittsburgh, like Cincinnati, you know, smaller markets to

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01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 3: a degree, teams that you know that don't really draw

1393
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 3: in a lot of free agents. You know, this is

1394
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 3: kind of how you have to build and when you

1395
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 3: can have a sensation like that to kind of put

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Speaker 3: the spotlight on towns that generally wouldn't get it. Like

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Speaker 3: the Reds are are like a marquee franchise. They're like

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01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 3: they're they're a blue blood franchise in Major League Baseball.

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 3: It's just as times have changed and the sport has expanded,

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01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 3: it's just not the biggest market as a draw as

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01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 3: it was back in the day. But it's always cool

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01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 3: to see a franchise like that. Pittsburgh was a proud

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 3: franchise too, by the way. They were one of the

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01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 3: better teams in the National League in the nineties for

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01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: a stretch. Emever that the Braves.

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01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that incredible series they had Braves and Pirates.

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01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, NLCS a couple of years in the early nineties. Yeah,

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01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 3: you know, so I just love seeing new blood too,

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01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 3: you know, Yes, I I'm I'm a fan of parody

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 3: as much as I love seeing the Lankees and the

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 3: Dodgers and all that I love seeing.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, I want. I want those other

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01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 2: teams to have a chance. Yeah, I agree, I'm I'm

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01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: completely with you. All right, let's say quick too, will

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Speaker 2: come back and oh we're clicking down because soon figure,

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Speaker 2: what are we going to be talking about? Football? Football? Football? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I can't, I can't help myself. Who had a fellas

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Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 2: Fellas from the tai raq dot Com studios. Kevin Figures.

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: I'm Anthony Gargano. Are I made the Big E and

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Speaker 2: Mighty Box fig The Big E going to Italy for

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Speaker 2: the first time.

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Speaker 1: Let's go e.

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Speaker 2: I love it. He is he was show, you know,

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01:11:54,880 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 2: he's tell how he talks? Show? How's that food? Is

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01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: the pizza really good? Is that really? How I sound?

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01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 3: I mean it's not that far off. The pizza is amazing. Yes,

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01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 3: it's different.

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01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 8: It's very different than we have the pasta, the the

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01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 8: what's it called the gelato?

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01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Oh yeah.

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01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: And he was there for these honeymoons big yeah. Last year. Wow, yeah,

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01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: last year.

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01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 2: I got to talk to both of you. Wow, this

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 2: is great.

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01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 3: Yes, what uh what area are you going to a part?

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: Just telling cause I got no clue.

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 8: Oh one of them is well, two of them rome

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01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 8: right in the mouthy coast.

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah yeah, nice, fired up, that's exciting.

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01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm mad before you, man.

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01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear about your time though.

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01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, get some lemon cello while you're out there too.

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01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 2: My name is I love it. There you go.

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01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: I was telling them, I go, dude, not for nothing.

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01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: But the food is legitimate, like because everything's fresh, right,

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01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 2: So everything is like if you're whatever, they make, whatever's

1448
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 2: in season. So and then like you're gonna go get

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01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 2: clams and spaghetti it's coming right out of the Mediterranean

1450
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: that morning and go right to your table and it's

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01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: it's on. It's I mean the flavors. Just how about

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01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 2: the fruit fake like they did. They're like on steroids,

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01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: they are. It's completely different.

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01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 3: It's a completely different experience than what you're used to

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01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 3: eating out here, you know what.

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01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: And you feel better, by the way, dude, Oh.

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01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 3: Because they don't use all the crap that we that

1458
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 3: they brought here. It's all natural stuff. You don't get bloated,

1459
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 3: you don't feel sick, absolutely not.

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: You feel like you feel great.

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: What we do to our food is criminal. Oh, it's ridiculous.

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01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 3: It doesn't take as much to fill you up with

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01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 3: the meals out there it does here.

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01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: No, they don't eat and they don't have these ridiculous portions. No,

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01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: absolutely not.

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01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 8: You guys are making me want to go dive in

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01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 8: the ocean catch my own fish.

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01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 2: Hey, why not have had it, dude, that's what it is. Yeah,

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01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: I mean they basically the fishermen are out all morning

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01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: and then they come, they come with the hall, and

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01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: then all the local restaurants are buying it and they're

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: making it, and everything you have is right out of

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01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 2: the ocean that day. Maybe I'll broadcast from there, live

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01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 2: there the rest of my life.

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: We'll see. Now you get no complaints from me, Yeah,

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: we'll figure that.

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 2: Will join you.

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01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right there with you. A couple of cup

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01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 3: of cappuccino, I'm right there with you, brother.

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01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, although that's already told them. I gave the I

1482
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 2: gave the whole thing with the coffee. You like coffee.

1483
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: I love coffee.

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01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: No, it'll love you back out there.

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01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one thing that I couldn't get onto

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01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 3: for you guys. Like I people are drinking cappuccino after dinner.

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01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 3: I was like, is thirty. If I drink that thing,

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01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,440
Speaker 3: I will be up until two, like or three. That

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01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 3: that's the one thing I couldn't get with. But other

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01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 3: than that, everything else is spectacular.

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01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of how I am right now, just

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01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 8: like coffee and I'm like asleep, but my eyes are

1493
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 8: open a little wire coffee.

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01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 3: So that's that's the one thing. Because that I wasn't

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 3: too hip on. Was the kid that was the post

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01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 3: dinner kept Yeah, espressoh yeah, yeah, yeah, I loved it

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01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 3: in the morning. I just couldn't do it at night.

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you do it after dinner drink? Yeah?

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01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 3: Because you catch the Limonchello was my after dinner drink.

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Speaker 2: That's what I would go. That's a beautiful that's a

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01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 2: beautiful DJs. Yes, because you catch me as an espresso guy. Yes, yes, yes.

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01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: Yes, I will pound the espress all day long.

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01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: I'll do two o'clock at four o'clock after dinner, it

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01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I could. Also, I'm one of these people

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01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: that it doesn't really affect me, which is kind of bad.

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01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like my mom.

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Speaker 3: My mom could drink a cup of coffee at midnight

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01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 3: and go to bed at twelve thirty.

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01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't do it the same way. Yeah,

1510
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 2: same way. It's terrible. I b I could always like

1511
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 2: if you told me, hey, you got an hour, you

1512
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: could go to sleep. I could literally like will myself

1513
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 2: to sleep. I drive people nuts because when we fly,

1514
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 2: I say I'm going to sleep, and then I sleep.

1515
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 3: You're the guy that that's asleep before the plane even

1516
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 3: takes off, aren't you?

1517
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: One knows? Yeah, yeah, I hit you so much. Yeah,

1518
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 1: I got.

1519
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: I used to have a friend of my Vinnie, and

1520
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 2: we would travel, and we used to travel a lot together,

1521
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 2: and he'd be like, and he's one of these always wired,

1522
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: you know, can't sleep. And he looked at me in

1523
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 2: like three seconds into the flight, so you don't play cards.

1524
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm sleeping, man.

1525
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 2: And he's like, look at it. Jeez. You know these people,

1526
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 2: they read like two sentences the next thing to the other.

1527
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:04,080
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1528
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1538
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Speaker 2: early earlier about Nugs and the Heat and Denver and

1539
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 2: just how it's just really an over match situation for

1540
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: the Heat.

1541
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: You could just say it.

1542
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 2: You know, one night it's Jokic going Banana's Now the

1543
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,520
Speaker 2: night it's Merry, last night it's Gordon.

1544
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: They just have too much for Miami.

1545
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 3: Too deep, too deep, too athletic. The Heat just don't

1546
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 3: have the horses, and like it's it's really it's rarely

1547
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 3: ever this simple. But basically, if Miami makes their threes,

1548
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 3: they'll be in the game, and if they don't, they

1549
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 3: won't be. So you they lose the three point battle

1550
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,959
Speaker 3: and they lose the game. That's pretty much the formula

1551
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 3: for them. And Denver is a team that's so good

1552
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 3: they can barrage you from three or they can shoot

1553
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 3: poorly from three, and they can still win because they

1554
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 3: have guys like Jokic or Gordon or Murray that can

1555
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 3: kill you in the paint too, or in the mid range.

1556
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 3: And that that's and so for for over simply oversimplification.

1557
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 3: That's kind of the the reason why it's played out

1558
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 3: this way.

1559
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 2: Question do you believe? Because I because I really believe

1560
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 2: sometimes teams go way overboard with the three when sometimes

1561
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: they don't even have to. Yeah, well, I mean like

1562
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: Boston is a prime example. Yeah, Boston died because they

1563
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 2: just there were two relying on threes when I didn't

1564
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: think they had to be is relying on the three.

1565
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 2: Some teams have to. But you know, it's one thing

1566
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 2: to go follow Golden State when they have the two

1567
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 2: greatest three point shooters in the history of the game,

1568
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 2: and you want to go build your team that way

1569
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: instead of building it with a little bit more balanced.

1570
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to have the three incorporated,

1571
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: but when you're so heavenly relying.

1572
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: On it, I you did not making the threes, you

1573
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: got no chance.

1574
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's unfortunately what eighty percent of

1575
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 3: the league. Now, that's that's how it's built it's the

1576
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 3: over analytical model. You either get a dunk or you

1577
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 3: get a three and one thing. I will say there

1578
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 3: seemed to be a bit of a re revolutionization of

1579
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 3: the mid range shot. Denver takes a lot of mid

1580
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 3: range shots. Jamal Murray's key in that. You know DeMar

1581
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 3: DeRozan thrive the last couple of years shooting mid range shots.

1582
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: We know Kawhi Leonard lives in the mid range. So

1583
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 3: there are more and more teams over the last I

1584
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 3: say two years have really reincorporated that into their games

1585
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 3: because it's it's so effective because it just gives people

1586
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 3: another avenue to defend. You're easier to defend if everybody

1587
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 3: knows you're either shooting you three or driving into the paint.

1588
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, the problem is the league Now everybody shoots

1589
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 3: threes because the numbers tell you to. It was like

1590
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 3: it's like Major League Baseball. They tell you to swing

1591
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 3: for the fences, launch angles and all that stuff. Now

1592
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 3: maybe there's less of that now because of the shift.

1593
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what the exact numbers are and what

1594
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 3: the difference has meant has been made when it comes

1595
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 3: to that, but that's pretty much why most teams in

1596
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 3: the NBA play that way. But we've discussed this on

1597
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 3: the show before. It just kind of it's homogenize the

1598
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 3: game and everybody plays the same, and it kind of

1599
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: takes a little bit of the fun and the strategy

1600
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 3: out of it.

1601
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: Everybody plays the same.

1602
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 2: I think you're spot on, man, I do I think

1603
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: it's I think it's actually terrible for the game.

1604
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And by the way, you can win. When when

1605
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 3: the Lakers won in the Bubble, they still weren't a

1606
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 3: good three point shooting team. They were a really good

1607
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 3: dominant defensive team, and it can They made some timely

1608
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 3: shots here and there, but you don't necessarily have to

1609
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 3: be a dead eye three point shooting team to be

1610
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 3: able to win if you're able to make some mid

1611
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 3: range shots, which they did, and play really good defense,

1612
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 3: which they did. So you know, I hope them and

1613
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 3: to a lesser extent, Denver, who does shoot the three ball,

1614
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 3: but they can thrive without shooting. It revolutionizes at things

1615
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 3: and maybe changes it and goes back a little bit

1616
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 3: to the old schools where everybody isn't so reliant on

1617
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 3: having to shoot forty threes. Because I mean, Boston had

1618
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 3: a couple of you know games in this postseason where

1619
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 3: they were like eight for forty two or whatever it

1620
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: was from three. It's ridiculous. At what point in time

1621
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 3: do you say it's not working, let's try something else. Well,

1622
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 3: it's hard to try something else if you don't practice it,

1623
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 3: if that's not what you do.

1624
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 2: I know, man, I know, I gotta tell you I

1625
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 2: feel the same way, and I just go sometimes what's' wrong? Like,

1626
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 2: you know, you can't just constantly go back to that.

1627
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: Well, you gotta be able to change it up.

1628
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 3: It's not fun to watch. And that's part of the

1629
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 3: reason why we have so many blowouts. You know, a

1630
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 3: team gets hot from three, the other team keeps shooting

1631
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 3: threes because they feel like, well, we're down fifteen, we

1632
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 3: got to make some so we don't get down thirty.

1633
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 3: They don't make any, so they are down thirty and

1634
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 3: then you have a blowout. So it's it happens a lot. Yes,

1635
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 3: the three pointer is the great equalizer. You feel like

1636
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 3: you're never out.

1637
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: Of the game.

1638
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 3: But if you keep shooting it and you don't make them, you'll,

1639
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 3: you know, you'll turn a game, will turn into a

1640
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 3: laffer by midway through the second quarter and we've seen

1641
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 3: a lot.

1642
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: More on those last week.

1643
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 2: I Mean, I hate to say this, but that's the

1644
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: you know, that's the Warriors that ruin the game.

1645
01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1646
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 3: I mean you can even go back to the Phoenix

1647
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 3: Suns of Mike D'Antoni, who really started doing this stuff

1648
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 3: if you.

1649
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: Want to really get back to it now.

1650
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 3: You know, they were really the first ones with the

1651
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 3: seven seconds or less that started this.

1652
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1653
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even they, I mean they did it because

1654
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: they were kind of at a disadvantage with the way

1655
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 3: their roster was built. Right at Nash you at Stodammeier

1656
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 3: and you just had guys who are just spot up

1657
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 3: and shoot because we didn't have anybody else. So it

1658
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 3: was almost like Oakland A's esque from the early days

1659
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 3: of moneyball. Yeah, you know, find the advantage now, great analogy,

1660
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 3: find the advantage where we can find it, and then

1661
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 3: everybody else latched onto it and say, wait a minute,

1662
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 3: I mean this worked for them match, we get some money,

1663
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 3: we get the right players, and we can play this

1664
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: way too, and everybody can't play that way and can't

1665
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 3: master it the way that they did or the way

1666
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 3: that the Splash Brothers in Golden State has.

1667
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I took a great way to look at

1668
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: it too. It's the truth, man, oh man, though, Oh.

1669
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: It's tough to watch it really is.

1670
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: It is.

1671
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,440
Speaker 1: It's a shame too, because.

1672
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: It's funny because baseball went through the same thing and

1673
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 2: now they're finally now with some of the tweaks, it's

1674
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: just so much better to watch. For I don't really

1675
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 2: care about the clock, but without the shift, it's just cleaner.

1676
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: It is.

1677
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 3: I think the clock has helped. The pace is better.

1678
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 3: Guys aren't wasting time on the mound, kicking dirt and

1679
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 3: all that stuff. So I do think it's made a

1680
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 3: bit of a difference. But to your point, I think

1681
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 3: the bigger thing is the is the banning of the shift,

1682
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 3: which I'm all for. You know, we're getting more stolen bases,

1683
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:34,480
Speaker 3: We're getting more legit base hits that have been stolen.

1684
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 1: In the past.

1685
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,560
Speaker 3: So so I was all for the banning of the

1686
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 3: shifts and have been for years, and so I think

1687
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 3: the early returns are it's been amazing.

1688
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 2: It's just a better get Look, to your point, it's

1689
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: a better game. It's better when you incorporate steals. Yes,

1690
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: it's better when you it's better when you're gonna put

1691
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 2: the wall in play and not just home run strikeout.

1692
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: Can we go back to the analytics and how it

1693
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,839
Speaker 2: just ruins the sport.

1694
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,799
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean it's not correct. Oh yeah, I understand

1695
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 3: why they do it. Sure you should do it, but

1696
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 3: it's just it doesn't make for a better product.

1697
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: Not the product's terrible, you know.

1698
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 3: And I will say too, even with the there's more

1699
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 3: steals and action on the basis, but it's almost too

1700
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 3: much because the problem is now that you can only

1701
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 3: you know, you can only throw over a couple of times.

1702
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: You know, It's it's almost like guaranteed steals.

1703
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 3: At this point for the running game is really really difficult,

1704
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 3: difficult to control. So it's like, yeah, you might see

1705
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 3: guys end up getting fifty sixty stolen bases, but it hits.

1706
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 1: Different than you know, when gods were doing it back

1707
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: in the day. Yeah, you're right, it's actually a good point.

1708
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1709
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 3: I would not have personally put a limit on how

1710
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: many times you can throw over. I know that slows

1711
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 3: the game down, but between you know, the pitch clock

1712
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 3: and all that stuff, I think that would have sped

1713
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 3: it up enough. I don't think it would slow the

1714
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 3: game down that much more if you allowed eyes to

1715
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 3: do it just takes a big strategy portion out of

1716
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 3: the game. Well, you're trying to hold a runner who

1717
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 3: could run a trillion miles an hour.

1718
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,799
Speaker 2: I think that guy that think that needs to get tweaked.

1719
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: I also, did you see that the athletic had the

1720
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: Phillies had a quick clock?

1721
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: No? I missed this, Yes, so what happened? So I

1722
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: don't know Citizens Bank Park.

1723
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 2: Their pitch clock was too fast and it was it

1724
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 2: was creating havoc. In fact, this week, Uh they were

1725
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 2: I get who did they play? Noah had recorded two

1726
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: outs on you know, pitchclock violations.

1727
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: Really yeah, it's bizarre stuff. I mean, and no one

1728
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 3: noticed this in real time or it.

1729
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 2: Was just now Yeah, there was a study because people

1730
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 2: were saying that it felt faster, and sure enough they

1731
01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 2: looked into it and it.

1732
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 3: Now do we know, like, is there an independent Major

1733
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 3: League Baseball official that is kind of in charge of

1734
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 3: the clocks in every park or is it a team employee?

1735
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 2: I think it's a team employee. Okay, well yeah, it's

1736
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 2: a team employee. That's interesting.

1737
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: It is it really is? All right, I gotta get

1738
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: to some football. All right, it's taking this long, I know.

1739
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 2: I So I want to start with you with the

1740
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 2: disappearing running back.

1741
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: Now the run game is gone, not.

1742
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 2: At all, but the backs, speaking of the analytics, the

1743
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:46,799
Speaker 2: running backs are completely devalued. As today or this week,

1744
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 2: we saw that Dalvin Cook was released. Dalvin Cook just released. Hey,

1745
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 2: it's one figure if you go Zeke. We all saw

1746
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 2: Zeke right, and well, Dalvin Cooked. His production waned a

1747
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, he could still play.

1748
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 3: It was still Buddy rushed for eleven hundred yards last year.

1749
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 1: That's not bad today's NFL.

1750
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 2: That's all out of the backfield.

1751
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: And he's a hard, tough runner.

1752
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1753
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 3: Well, I know a lot of the pundits are saying

1754
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 3: like this was really cap motivated than anything else. It's

1755
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 3: not like they wanted to cut them. They they just

1756
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 3: have no money to work with and Kirk Cousins has

1757
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 3: taken up so much of their cap.

1758
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 2: You know.

1759
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 3: They're kind of one of those teams that I had

1760
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 3: like a pretty decent foundation for about four years and

1761
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 3: then it kind of fell apart and now they're kind

1762
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 3: of in the rebuild. They're kind of in a semi

1763
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 3: rams kind of situation. Yeah, you got to clean they

1764
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 3: so they're just that they kind of have to clean

1765
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: up their cap.

1766
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: Yes.

1767
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 3: So I don't know if it's that they didn't want

1768
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook. I just that they probably just felt like,

1769
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 3: we just legit can't afford to keep this guy on

1770
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 3: the roster and feel the competitive roster.

1771
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 2: But you know it, you see how it is like

1772
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: the those backs. Yeah, it's more of a committee type

1773
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 2: of thing. It is.

1774
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 3: One thing I'll say about Dalvin Cook too, and he

1775
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 3: has not had like a lot of injuries in his career.

1776
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: Not the biggest guy.

1777
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 3: He's the type of player who would kind of fall

1778
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 3: off of a cliff or lose half a step and

1779
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 3: not be the same player. So it's almost like you'd

1780
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 3: rather cut bit a year early than a year too late.

1781
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's what Minnesota's doing, but I'm just

1782
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 3: saying in general, you know, yeah.

1783
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 2: No, I and I actually think I think you're right.

1784
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,799
Speaker 2: I think they are. I think that's part of their decision.

1785
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 2: But again it goes back to the what are you

1786
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,759
Speaker 2: doing with the running backs? Your philosophy is we're gonna

1787
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: just when they're on their rookie deal, We're gonna exhaust them.

1788
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 2: We're not giving you a second contract.

1789
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 3: Or we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it on

1790
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 3: our terms. See Saquon Barkley right now. Or Josh Jacobs

1791
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,759
Speaker 3: with the Raiders, two guys who have been absolutely running

1792
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 3: to the ground to start their careers and they want

1793
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 3: to get paid. And I understand, but to your point,

1794
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 3: that's just not where because because you don't, everybody's afraid.

1795
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 3: You don't want to be putting like a Todd Gurley

1796
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 3: sort of situation. And by the way, neither of those

1797
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 3: guys had the production that Todd Gurley had, you know,

1798
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: for three four years or whatever it was with the Rams.

1799
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 3: But once he got injured and you're on the hook

1800
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 3: for all this money, it's it's starting pitchers, r starting pictures.

1801
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,839
Speaker 1: Your spot on is it crazy?

1802
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 2: Like you bring up Girly he was so good, he

1803
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 2: was amazing, Like he was so good, and it's.

1804
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 3: Then it's overnight, over, overnight, out of nowhere.

1805
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: You remember that playoffs, we were like what happened to

1806
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: girl do?

1807
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 3: Vividly? That was the year they won. They went to

1808
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and lost to New England. He was

1809
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 3: losing carries to c J. Anderson who was like out

1810
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 3: of the league halfway through the year.

1811
01:30:59,160 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 8: C J.

1812
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 3: Anderson came and usurped him because he was just ineffective

1813
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 3: at that point.

1814
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: You can't do it.

1815
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 3: And he has a degenerative knee, so that that it's

1816
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 3: a tough gamble. So people talk about getting the most

1817
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 3: out of young quarterbacks when they have cap friendly deals

1818
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 3: in their early years. I think the thing is, like,

1819
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 3: you try to find yourself a running back that you

1820
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 3: know can really make a big impact for you the

1821
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 3: first four or five years of his career, and then

1822
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 3: you move on and try to find something else. You

1823
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 3: just can't afford to have a guy if he does

1824
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 3: explode and play great, you just can't afford to pay

1825
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 3: him that much because he might fall off. Now, look,

1826
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 3: maybe you'll get lucky and you'll have a Derrick Henry

1827
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 3: who's been durable and has been phenomenal, has been one

1828
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 3: of the best running backs in the league for what

1829
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 3: has it been six years now, whatever it's been. Yeah,

1830
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 3: But I mean he's also a guy you lose a

1831
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 3: step and he's done. I mean, it's a ticking time bomb.

1832
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 3: You just don't know when it's gonna happen. But it's

1833
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 3: gonna happen eventually. Yeah, because you know, it's funny because

1834
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 3: people are going, yeah, and you.

1835
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 2: Know names right, like when you when then a name

1836
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 2: is out there, fans, Oh my god, we gotta get

1837
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 2: so and so right, And in reality, so and so

1838
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:06,879
Speaker 2: is cooked.

1839
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 1: The where's Zeke? He still hasn't signs. He gets still

1840
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: in the street, still in the street.

1841
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 2: Yep. And I remember the rumors di Minuity gets released,

1842
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 2: all the rumors where he was going. People were talking

1843
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 2: trade rumors, and I'm going, why would you trade for Elliott?

1844
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 3: And for that contract that he had exactly made no sense.

1845
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 3: Elliott is a pile mover at this point, that is it.

1846
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 3: He is a short yardage back. There's nothing wrong with that.

1847
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, well, there's a limit to what you're going to.

1848
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 3: Pay for, correct, Yeah, because you had Yeah, because there's

1849
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 3: a limit of the production he can actually give you.

1850
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 3: He's not going to give you any value on special

1851
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 3: teams at this point in his career, not going to

1852
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 3: give you much in the passing game. So yeah, what

1853
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 3: are you willing to commit to him? First of all,

1854
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 3: what kind of contract does he want? Which also could

1855
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 3: be part of the reason why he's still in the

1856
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 3: street too, because who knows how he values himself right now,

1857
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 3: and so sometimes it takes time for the market to correct,

1858
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 3: for the market to tell him, oh, maybe I shouldn't

1859
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 3: be asking for six and a half million dollars, Maybe

1860
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 3: I should be asking for one and a half. You know,

1861
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 3: sometimes that takes a while the sus itself out. So

1862
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 3: I really don't know what Ezekiel Elliott thinks his value

1863
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 3: is right now.

1864
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: Around the league. Where does Cook go? I don't know.

1865
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 3: I mean I think there's a couple of different you know,

1866
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 3: decently everybody's Miami, yeah, which would make sense. I mean,

1867
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:35,839
Speaker 3: Mike and Daniels supposed to be a running game genius

1868
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 3: and they were I don't know if they were dead

1869
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 3: lasting rushing, but they were pretty close to the bottom

1870
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 3: in all rushing categories last year in Miami, So that

1871
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 3: would make sense. Buffalo has no money before you said,

1872
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 3: you waddle hell and Cook, it's a lot of speed. Yeah,

1873
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 3: And if you're the Bills, I mean, they just don't

1874
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 3: have any money. But that would be a great fit

1875
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 3: for a team that's you know, run. The running game

1876
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 3: is pretty much all they're missing. Just try to run

1877
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 3: the ball a.

1878
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 1: Little bit Bills. It would be so perfect.

1879
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 2: You want to talk about a perfect spot Buffalo.

1880
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just don't think they can afford it.

1881
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: If Kevin Stefanski takes a shot, you know he was

1882
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 2: at Minnesota's the OC.

1883
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, possibly, I can see that.

1884
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 2: Because they're an interesting team. Yeah, you gotta think that

1885
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson comes back and has a decent year.

1886
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 5: Oh.

1887
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 3: I think Watson will be maybe even fully back to

1888
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 3: what he was before. I think it was too much

1889
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 3: to expect him to come back in late in the

1890
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 3: season and be anywhere near with you know, limited snaps

1891
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 3: at practice and all that stuff. So with a full

1892
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 3: offseason under his belt, they'll be competitive.

1893
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 1: They'll be in the road.

1894
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 3: Whether or not they'll you know, make the playoffs, I

1895
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 3: don't know, but they'll definitely be in the race. And

1896
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 3: there's already talk of DeAndre Hopkins possibly be in the

1897
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 3: in the in the cards for them there too. I

1898
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 3: know he visited with New England on Thursday, but don't

1899
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 3: rule him going out to Cleveland either.

1900
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. I like to see him

1901
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 2: be I know you were like now in Kansas City,

1902
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 2: but I still like to see him in Kansas City.

1903
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 3: And I haven't really heard a lot of noise about

1904
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 3: that either. By the way, that now, it doesn't seem

1905
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 3: like it's in the cards.

1906
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No. I think you're right.

1907
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 3: I think Andy likes what he has. We might there

1908
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 3: might not be the biggest household names, but nothing. Andy's

1909
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 3: pretty confident in having a quarterback and having a Hall

1910
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 3: of Fame tight end and working around the pieces at receiver.

1911
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: That they have.

1912
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 2: I wonder, I guess. I guess he really believes in

1913
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 2: sky More.

1914
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: Well.

1915
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's comes out because he's going to

1916
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 2: be there shrets the field guy. Right.

1917
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 3: Well, if Andy Reid believes in him, I believe in Andy.

1918
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to question one of the great

1919
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 3: court great court head coaches over the last twenty five years.

1920
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 2: In the league. So amen, buddy. So I get you

1921
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 2: at that.

1922
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 3: I'll defer to Andy and saying that I think he

1923
01:35:58,880 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 3: knows what he's doing.

1924
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, coming up, Chris Simms ranked his quarterbacks,

1925
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 2: pissed off a lot of people again.

1926
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: This happens every year.

1927
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: I don't even know why, you know, we even bother

1928
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 2: with him.

1929
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 3: I didn't even see this. By the way, so this'll

1930
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 3: be interesting. Yeah, I was going to say, we'll go

1931
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 3: do it, We'll do hours. Okay, all right, so try

1932
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 3: to pen your top ten. Okay, and we'll see how

1933
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,920
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1938
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1939
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 1: All right, fig.

1940
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 2: Let's let's go through a little bit, a little exercise,

1941
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 2: a little fun because you know, the ranking of the

1942
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 2: quarterbacks is always an off season thing everybody loves to do.

1943
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 2: We do it in some sort of iteration all the time, constantly.

1944
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 2: And of course Chris Simms did his, and he caught

1945
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 2: a lot of flak because that's what he does. Yes,

1946
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 2: he knows the master of the hot take and you know,

1947
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 2: the whole thing. And I don't even know why I bring

1948
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 2: it up, but because he's slighting.

1949
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 3: Hurts again with city, Yeah, ridiculous hurts in there in

1950
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 3: the top ten.

1951
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: He was he was seven. Wow, you know interesting, right, Yeah.

1952
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 2: Uh, here's mine. Let's see how close we get. All right,

1953
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 2: let's do the let's do the back five first, okay,

1954
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,599
Speaker 2: all right, from the bottom. So from the bottom I

1955
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 2: have and it gets muddled pretty quick, it really does.

1956
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm with you. You start getting to nine and ten

1957
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:06,600
Speaker 3: is kind of where I struggled.

1958
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's a lot of guys that you can

1959
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 2: look at, like, you know, Deshaun Watson, I expect to

1960
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: be back in the top ten.

1961
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 3: But you kind of don't know, right, So.

1962
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 2: You can't put him there because you're right, like, just

1963
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 2: the way you said it was so right on, you

1964
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 2: kind of don't know.

1965
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 3: I will say I did put him in, but he's

1966
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 3: he's towards the bottom.

1967
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: I would. I thought about it, and I wanted to

1968
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 2: put him in because I didn't really like anybody.

1969
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 3: Else, right, That's kind of the reason why I did it.

1970
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:41,839
Speaker 2: So, but I was like, I can't do it until

1971
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 2: I see he does it.

1972
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:45,600
Speaker 3: That makes total sense, right, absolutely.

1973
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: I thought about Tua and I'm like, he's not there.

1974
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:54,879
Speaker 2: No. I thought about Gino Smith and said, he's close.

1975
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 2: I mean, but is he is? He legit?

1976
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 1: Like I gotta see another year, you know, exactly?

1977
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 2: I feel the same way. I'm like, I can't do

1978
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 2: it until I see him do it again, right, But

1979
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 2: like he's on the radar. Sure Fields is on the

1980
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 2: radar right for me, but yeah, on the radar right, Like,

1981
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think he was. He was not

1982
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 2: close to my ten. But he's a guy that I

1983
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 2: had as a possible you know.

1984
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the right offense and the right progression this year,

1985
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 3: then yeah, sure.

1986
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 2: I thought about cousins, Eh I did not. I just go, eh, like,

1987
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 2: I don't feel a certain way on it, n you know,

1988
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 2: to me, he's just screams middle of the road. Correct.

1989
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 3: Maybe five years ago I could have put him on

1990
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,520
Speaker 3: the outskirts of my top ten, but right now, absolutely

1991
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 3: not right.

1992
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm looking at these dudes. I'm going

1993
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 2: gets thin fast. So number ten I come in with

1994
01:39:57,479 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott.

1995
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, I do not have Deck on my list

1996
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 3: at all.

1997
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to put him on there, but

1998
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 2: I came up with ten and have a tenth.

1999
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 3: Was your tenth Matthew Stafford? Okay, assuming he's healthy. If

2000
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford's healthy, I think he's a he's a top

2001
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 3: ten quarterback.

2002
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 2: Still, I would agree, but I can't assume that, which

2003
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 2: is why he didn't make my top.

2004
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: Five, which my top ten, which makes sense to me.

2005
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean if he's healthy, yeah, definitely, like

2006
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 2: he's you know, he's Stafford. Yeah, number nine. I held

2007
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 2: my breath. But he had a great year last year,

2008
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:45,600
Speaker 2: just a great year, and so I figured, you know what,

2009
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 2: I'll throw him the bone golf, you're a golf Okay,

2010
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 2: nice only because he I mean watching him, and I

2011
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 2: watched him a lot. He had a great year.

2012
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:05,560
Speaker 3: Really did he three made overthrows? Yeah, and he showed flashes.

2013
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 3: He showed flashes of that at times when he was

2014
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 3: in LA with the Rams, which that one better than anybody.

2015
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 2: You show him up and close for all those time.

2016
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 2: It is I possible that he got it and that

2017
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 2: he's been.

2018
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:25,560
Speaker 1: Transformed.

2019
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, look, the guy's been in the league now.

2020
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 3: He was the first overall picking what was it, twenty sixteen,

2021
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, whatever it was, so he had some years

2022
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 3: under his belt. He got off to a terrible start,

2023
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 3: got with Sean McVay fixed him a little bit. Some

2024
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 3: people thought that Sean McVay almost overcached him to a

2025
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 3: certain degree, and protected him too much and he was

2026
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 3: overthinking a lot, and so that's why he turned the

2027
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 3: ball over. And now they kind of let him cut

2028
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 3: it loose. There was actually a I won't call it

2029
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 3: a war of words, but Campbell said something about how

2030
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 3: golf is better now than he was in LA and

2031
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 3: then someone asked if Sean McVay and he was kind

2032
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, I've watched him from Afar the last

2033
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 3: couple of years, and he's he's a solid NFL quarterback.

2034
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 3: He didn't basically admit that he's better now than he

2035
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 3: was with the Rams, but I think it's hard to

2036
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 3: argue against the fact that he's a better quarterback today

2037
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 3: than he was three four years ago with the Rams.

2038
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's I think that's obvious.

2039
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I considered putting him in my top ten.

2040
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 3: He did not make the cut for me. My number

2041
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 3: nine was Trevor Lawrence.

2042
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you got looky, you got Lawrence there, all right?

2043
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 2: So my number eight is Lamar. Okay, who's your eight?

2044
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 2: My eight is a Shaun Watson. Okay.

2045
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Lamar is seven for me.

2046
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 2: Lawrence is seven for me. Okay, six.

2047
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 3: I got Rogers, so do I we're lockstep with Aaron

2048
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 3: Rodgers at number six.

2049
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 1: Five, I got Jalen.

2050
01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:02,679
Speaker 3: Hurts, Okay, I have Justin Herbert at okay, I got

2051
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:03,639
Speaker 3: Herbert at four.

2052
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

2053
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 1: I would have put Hurts it for, and I wanted

2054
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: to put Hurts it for.

2055
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 2: I did, But then I realized that I think I'm

2056
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 2: panalizing Herbert for the bad coaching.

2057
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 3: That's a good point, I mean, because even with the

2058
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 3: losses they've had, it's almost never on him. I mean,

2059
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 3: if anything, he covers up a lot of just the

2060
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 3: atrocious decision making that Brandon Staley's made the last couple

2061
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 3: of years.

2062
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 2: I know, I and I was thinking the same thing

2063
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 2: because I think, you know, what man Hurts Hurts is legit.

2064
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, but then you forget when I

2065
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 2: was thinking about how what Herbert can do and Raider game,

2066
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 2: there's been so many games where he just is is

2067
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 2: ridiculously good.

2068
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has like and it's all on him making throws. Yeah,

2069
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 3: because they have really no running game to speak of.

2070
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 3: Even as good as Austin Eckler is, he's more of

2071
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 3: an all purpose guy than like a pound between the tackles.

2072
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 3: They literally put everything on his shoulders and the problem

2073
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 3: is not good no, no, and they were banged up

2074
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 3: last year. That if they're healthy, that if they're healthy,

2075
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 3: they're good. They just haven't been the last couple of years.

2076
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 3: So the tough part for me with the evaluation with

2077
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 3: Herts is because he plays such a different style because

2078
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 3: it's it's so read option dependent. But he obviously can

2079
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 3: throw the ball. But I just can't discount the impact

2080
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 3: that he made last season and the giant strides that

2081
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 3: he made.

2082
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 1: Uh So I put him. I could.

2083
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 3: I could have easily interchanged or switched Herbert and Hurts.

2084
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 3: They were neck and neck, but I decided to put

2085
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 3: put Herbert or Hurts in front of Herbert.

2086
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm a big listen, I'm a I'm a

2087
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 2: Hurts guy, so you know, I liked it.

2088
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 1: But I just I look at.

2089
01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 2: What Herbert's done and out of fairness and like, the

2090
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,919
Speaker 2: offensive line was a big deal for me because Jalen's

2091
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 2: got the best offensive line of football.

2092
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:06,719
Speaker 1: He does, You're right.

2093
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 2: And I think about her I think about Lauren, about

2094
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 2: Herbert and what he would.

2095
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 3: Be like and a legit run game, you know next

2096
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 3: to him. You know Sanders last year, Swift is going

2097
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 3: to be good for them this year. You know, Justin

2098
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 3: Herbert hasn't had a running game to speak of since

2099
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 3: he's been with the Chargers.

2100
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, Hurts makes his run game better himself. He

2101
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 2: absolutely does, because he's such a great runner. Right, And

2102
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 2: the top three, I'm sure it's it's obviously it's it's Mahomes.

2103
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 1: And then you know Alan Burrow or Burrow Allen. Yeah,

2104
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 1: you have Burrow Allen.

2105
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 3: No, I do have Alan Burrow, but that's also you know,

2106
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 3: ask me tomorrow and I could flip flop him. It's

2107
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 3: one of those for me, because I think Alan is

2108
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 3: sort of a victim of the same situation with Justin Herbert.

2109
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 3: Not from a coaching standpoint, they just with no running game.

2110
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 3: He is the running like and that's a problem because

2111
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 3: he's gonna end up getting banged up. So like, they

2112
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 3: need to get that guy some help and actually have

2113
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 3: a legit run game to help him out, because he's

2114
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 3: even admitted this offseason like, I can't keep running the

2115
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 3: way that I've.

2116
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 1: Been running, Like, no, hold up, now he can't. And

2117
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 1: we know Burrow can move a little bit.

2118
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 3: But Burrow's had the advantage, you know, of having a

2119
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 3: two headed monster at running back to take some of

2120
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 3: the pressure off of him at And he's not the

2121
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 3: athlete that Josh Allen is, but he can move. You know,

2122
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 3: he's not a statue. But so I give Josh Allen

2123
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 3: the nod over Joe Burrow. I guess from a similar

2124
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 3: situation as to why you kind of give the nod

2125
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 3: to Justin Herbert over Jalen Hurts.

2126
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, exactly.

2127
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: Figure it's with some trending Bud all right.

2128
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 3: Well, Aaron Gordon career playoff high twenty seven points for

2129
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 3: the Denver Nuggets Friday night. Denver now will commanding three

2130
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 3: to one lead in the NBA Finals, one victory away

2131
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 3: from winning their first ever NBA championship. Miami out rebounded

2132
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 3: Denver thirty seven to thirty four in the game, but

2133
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,600
Speaker 3: the equalizer the three pointer. Nuggets, making fifty percent of

2134
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 3: their shots from deep just thirty two percent for the

2135
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 3: Miami Heat. And we know they've been bullied by the

2136
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 3: three point shot throughout this entire playoff run. If they

2137
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 3: hit their threes, they're in the game. If they don't,

2138
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 3: they're not. So he looking to their facing elimination, they

2139
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:18,719
Speaker 3: look to get a victory in Game five and stay Alive.

2140
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 3: Game five will be Monday nights in Denver to Major

2141
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 3: League Baseball Showo Tani a home run. He also picked

2142
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 3: up the win on the mound for the Angels, they

2143
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 3: beat Seattle five to four. A walk off victory for Cleveland.

2144
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 3: They beat the Astros in fourteen innings by the score

2145
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,440
Speaker 3: of ten to nine. Another home run there for Jose Ramirez.

2146
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 3: Atlanta b Washington for their sixth straight victory. Phillies over

2147
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 3: the Dodgers in walk off fashion five to four. It

2148
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 3: was Boston three, the Yankees two went for their Rangers

2149
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 3: Orioles and the Pirates. At the PGA event in Toronto,

2150
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 3: Carl yuan As a one stroke lead with while last

2151
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks and doing our rankings, so let's back up.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we both had an issue with eight, nine, ten.

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01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's fairly obvious the top seven

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Speaker 2: any which way you want to put it, it's, you know,

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Speaker 2: somehow some sort of mahomes Alan Barrow, Herbert Hurts Rogers,

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01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 2: Lawrence Lamar right, like, that's your that's your top eight,

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Speaker 2: would you agree?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I did have Lawrence under Deshaun Watson. But it's just

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01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,719
Speaker 3: because I just I just know how good consistently Watson

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01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 3: was when he was playing. He was healthy, and I

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01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 3: guess I'm assuming, with a full training camp under his

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01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 3: belt that he'll come close to being that again. And

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Speaker 3: I mean, and Trevor Lawrence had a great breakout year

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Speaker 3: last year. I guess I just kind of need to

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Speaker 3: see him do it again. Although I obviously loved what

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01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:23,640
Speaker 3: I saw, I.

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Speaker 2: Give him the benefit of the doubt because I mean

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01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 2: we liked him out of college, right, So yeah, absolutely,

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01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 2: he was one of the guy that you went, yeah,

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01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 2: I mean he's going to be a study.

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01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 3: He would have been like a top three pick after

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01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 3: his freshman year. He was one of those kind of guys.

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01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,560
Speaker 2: And he and he made and he just makes throws.

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01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:46,759
Speaker 1: Like right, flappable.

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01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 3: Do you have four interceptions in that first half against

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01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 3: the Chargers the playoffs and let him back?

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01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he goes, you go give him Kirk

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01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 1: and oh you geting Calvin Ridley in the mix now?

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01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, my god. Yeah, I mean he's

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01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 2: just start. But you know what's amazing. So that's eight. Yeah,

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01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 2: and if you put the Shawn Watson a just say,

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01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 2: just put him in there. Now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you got nine quarterbacks that you know, you know, giving

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01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 2: and giving him the benefit of the doubt. Because if

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Speaker 2: I said to you, who would you bet on Deshaun

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Speaker 2: Watson or Russell Wilson?

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Speaker 1: You bet on DeShawn Watson, Right.

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01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 2: I would? Yeah, me too, I absolutely would. And they're

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Speaker 2: in lies all every other team with huge questions, huge

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01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,480
Speaker 2: like I don't know about Tia, a lot of concussions,

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01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 2: which is his sin. And even when he was playing

2204
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 2: anyone who's healthy, he's he's a hit or miss.

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Speaker 3: Guyde was productive. He had a better year last year

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Speaker 3: than I thought he would. He was he was very

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01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 3: good for them. He wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: He was good.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know if he necessarily moves the

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01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 3: needle from me.

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01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 1: And you're talking with exceptional weapons.

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01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 3: Correct, which tells me. I mean, if you have to

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01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 3: surround somebody with all these weapons, and how great is he,

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01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you should provide your quarterback with with you know,

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01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 3: the proper arsenal.

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Speaker 1: I understand it.

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01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 3: But I think they knew that they had to get

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01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 3: him a lot of explosive players and guys that can

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01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 3: stress the field and guys that could separate because he

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01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 3: needed to have it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's not He's not a mousehole thrower. No,

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01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:37,759
Speaker 2: And then you wonder, so you got him in the mix.

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01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about golf. I kind of

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01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 2: believe that golf. It was not a fluke last year, man,

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01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 2: and you look, you go into this year, he's got

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Speaker 2: a lot of weapons. Sure, does you know what, Let's

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Speaker 2: take a quick to and we'll come back and we'll

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Speaker 2: finish all the quarterbacks. Man, it feels good talking football

2229
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 2: with the felons right here. Foxports Radio a lot from

2230
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com studio, geeking out a little

2231
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 2: bit over the quarterbacks. So we were just kind of

2232
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 2: going through the state of the quarterbacks, and you know,

2233
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 2: there's this whole big you know, we always talk about

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01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 2: quarterback tiers, and you know, you have the top tiers

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01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 2: with Mahomes and Allen and Barrow and Hurts, and you know,

2236
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 2: you could put Herbert kind of close by, and you

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01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 2: got Rogers and Lawrence is probably close there, and then

2238
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna have Lamar at some point, and then you

2239
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 2: have this whole group of guys that are just bunched together,

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Speaker 2: which is you know, you look at it. We talked

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Speaker 2: about two. We talked about Stafford, We talked about Geno Smith.

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01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you know, I think listen, I

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01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 2: think Gino Smith am I crazy, But I think he

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01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 2: could kind of duplicate what he did or replicate what

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01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:13,839
Speaker 2: he did last year.

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Speaker 1: You hope.

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01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 3: So, I mean he was kind of on the outside

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01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 3: looking in, just barely for me in the top ten.

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01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 3: But look, from a talent standpoint, they've certainly added to it.

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Speaker 3: I mean Smith and Jig but apparently has been tearing

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01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 3: up OTA's for whatever that means. But you know, I

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01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 3: would expect him to at least if he can at

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01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 3: least replicate or not be far off from what he

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01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:34,639
Speaker 3: did last year, then there's no reason why he can't

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Speaker 3: crack into the top ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the tough part is getting him to repeat it,

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01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 3: because now he's not sneaking up on anybody. So that's

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01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 3: always the tough part about a guy who kind of

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Speaker 3: broke out and performed a way that you weren't expecting.

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01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 3: Can they do it again or come close to it?

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01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 3: So that'd be the big question for a for Gino Smith.

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Speaker 1: What about car? What do you think about Car? In

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Speaker 1: New Orleans?

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Speaker 3: He's kind of in that second tier if we're talking

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Speaker 3: like an eleven to fifteen ish area. That's kind of

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01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 3: where I put him. There was a time I'd have

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01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 3: him on the fringes of the top ten, but he

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01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 3: misses out. Now I think he's a little bit lower

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01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,840
Speaker 3: in the pecking order. But look, he's definitely the best

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Speaker 3: quarterback in that division, which is not that hard to do.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, so that's you were told about a trash Yeah,

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01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 2: that's a trash division right there.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Look, the Saints as a team as a roster is

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01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 3: pretty good. So and Derek Carr is like, he's not

2277
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 3: great and he has his shortcomings, but he's a solid

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01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 3: starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what the odds are. I haven't

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01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 1: looked at him.

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01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 3: I would assume the Saints are the favorite to win

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01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 3: that division as of now.

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01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I would.

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01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 2: I would assume, So I'll check for you in a minute. Yeah,

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01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 2: Derek Carr looking at PFF, his grade last year was

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01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 2: the lowest of his career outside of his rookie season.

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01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 2: And then they write in which was supposed to be

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01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 2: a solid season, Car's big plays declined. Oh yeah, notably

2289
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 2: less accurate overall. You saw that his adjusted completion rate

2290
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 2: drop by more than six percentage points from the year before.

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01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 2: Lowis level since he was a rookie, and that likely

2292
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 2: represents the floor for Car because he's been a borderline

2293
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 2: top ten player of his career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, not having his weapons, I mean, Renfro

2295
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 3: missed a lot of time, Waller was out a lot

2296
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 3: last year. You know, he still had Davante and he

2297
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 3: was spectacular, but it was a tough go and there

2298
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:36,440
Speaker 3: were just too many big throws and too many big

2299
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 3: moments that Carr missed. So the PFF that situate his

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01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 3: about his big plays being down, Yeah, that makes all

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01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 3: the sense in the world. I go back to that

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Speaker 3: Christmas I don't know if it was Christmas Eve or

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01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 3: Christmas Day in Pittsburgh and there was still very much

2304
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 3: in the thick of the playoff race and Donor renfro

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01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 3: Is running by himself down the middle of the field

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01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 3: and Derek Carr.

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Speaker 1: Just airmails it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And a lot of people think like that

2309
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 3: it was literally that play that game that Josh McDaniels

2310
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 3: and the Raider front office knew that was it for him.

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01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 3: I think it was. That was the last game he played,

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01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 3: was in Pittsburgh. Yeah, and that's what I mean.

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01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 2: That was mirindous throw.

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01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 3: I've never like it was yesterday, And he, unfortunately throughout

2315
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 3: his career, would have those in big moments in big games.

2316
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 3: At times he would just just make his scratch your head.

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01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 3: There was a game against I think Kansas City a

2318
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. It was like fourth and goal

2319
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 3: with no time on the clock, and he threw the

2320
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 3: ball out of the back of the end zone and

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01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 3: you're like, just what do you do like exactly? And

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01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 3: he's he's so throughout his career he's had a lot

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01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 3: of those what are.

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Speaker 2: You doing moments? Yeah, all right, fellas, we got a

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Speaker 2: big hour coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday with the Fellas, Kevin Figures on, Anthony Gargano. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: our big Man, the Big Ee and Muddy Mark is

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Speaker 2: our crew. Hopefully you're having a great weekend. We're about

2338
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Speaker 2: to push in. This is summertime, man, this is the

2339
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 2: week that pushes us in the summer. And uh we

2340
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:49,240
Speaker 2: got the end of the year of the finals. It

2341
01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 2: looks like that thing can get wrapped up on Monday

2342
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 2: with the Nuggets winning their first ever NBA title. We

2343
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 2: were talking figuring out our toilbout this earlier. But it's

2344
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 2: always great to see a team win for the first time,

2345
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 2: like a first time franchised title win. When was the

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01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 2: last time we had that.

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01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 3: It's a good question. No, I'm trying to think of

2348
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 3: our most recent champions. Most of them have been repeat.

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01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 2: Right, So Kansas City wins, so that's a repeat. I'm

2350
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:31,720
Speaker 2: just trying to think about it.

2351
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 3: Have won already. They won seventeen asterisk but still one.

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01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 2: Because you got me thinking and I'm thinking about first

2353
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 2: time winners. Yeah, you might have to go back to

2354
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 2: eighteen for the Eagles first time winning.

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01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: Wow, and how epic was that. I'm leasing the polls

2356
01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 1: and all that.

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01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 3: I remember the pandem on them out there when they

2358
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:04,680
Speaker 3: got that Super Bowl win, the nick Fole statue.

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01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 2: I was in the middle.

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01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 3: Sure you are with a bottle to kill nice. Yes,

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01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 3: as you should have been. Yes, the Bucks had won

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01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 3: championships before Milwaukee Bucks. Trying to think of other recent champions.

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01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 2: Because, uh, you mentioned the Stros and baseball. I mean

2364
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 2: you have you you. This is why I think the

2365
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 2: Nuggets winning is a good thing for the league.

2366
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 1: It is.

2367
01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:45,400
Speaker 3: I think the league is healthier when there's more. This

2368
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:47,800
Speaker 3: is why I enjoyed the league so much this year,

2369
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 3: because you didn't really going into the postseason, you really

2370
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:54,080
Speaker 3: didn't know who was gonna make it. So people have

2371
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:56,640
Speaker 3: talked about so the TV ratings for the NBA have

2372
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 3: been through the roof this year. They they had been

2373
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 3: declining the last few years, and then this is the

2374
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:03,320
Speaker 3: highest they've been, I think, in five years. And I

2375
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 3: do think a big part of that is for such

2376
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 3: a long stretch of time, it was a foregone conclusion.

2377
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 3: It was gonna be Cavs Warriors in the finals. We

2378
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 3: knew it was gonna happen. It was every single year,

2379
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 3: and I think people kind of got bored with it.

2380
02:00:16,160 --> 02:00:17,880
Speaker 1: It was Lebron, it was Steph.

2381
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 3: The ratings were still good, but they're through the roof.

2382
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 3: And I do think it was a healthy playoffs playoff

2383
02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:26,640
Speaker 3: run this year because it was competitive and compelling and

2384
02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:28,440
Speaker 3: no one really knew who was gonna make it. You know,

2385
02:00:28,480 --> 02:00:30,240
Speaker 3: you know, you like Denver, they have the top seed

2386
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:32,840
Speaker 3: in the Western Conference, but a lot of people didn't

2387
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 3: like them once the playoffs started and thought they could

2388
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:37,800
Speaker 3: easily get knocked off in the Eastern Conference, Milwaukee got

2389
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 3: knocked out early.

2390
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:39,480
Speaker 2: You know.

2391
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:42,880
Speaker 3: It's so it was kind of a crap shoot. Do

2392
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 3: I think it's healthier for the league when you enter

2393
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:49,280
Speaker 3: into a postseason and you don't really know, you know

2394
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 3: who the top teams are, while still knowing you're going

2395
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 3: to have the superstar player sprinkled in there.

2396
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, you got Jo Kich.

2397
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:59,560
Speaker 3: The Warriors made it with Steph Lebron was there, you know,

2398
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 3: the Bucks made it, The Celtics were there just because

2399
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:04,680
Speaker 3: they didn't make it to the finals. You know, all

2400
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:07,640
Speaker 3: the star players were still in the postseason. So I

2401
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 3: feel like that's the best of both worlds. You get

2402
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:12,280
Speaker 3: the stars. Yeah, it's kind of a crap shoot.

2403
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 2: And it's a crap shoot. Yeah, I Cary, I do.

2404
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 2: I'm with you, And I think that's a uh and

2405
02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 2: that is a great recipe when you just don't know.

2406
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a sign of a healthy league.

2407
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll tell you one thing. It's good that

2408
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:33,320
Speaker 2: Denver is winning and that they're a real likable bunch. Yeah,

2409
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 2: between Mary and Jokic and you.

2410
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:40,680
Speaker 1: Know, Gordon and Porter. Even my likeable team who's been

2411
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 1: a grinder.

2412
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:41,760
Speaker 2: You know.

2413
02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was a little bit over the

2414
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 3: top with the trolling of the Lakers. But outside of

2415
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:47,120
Speaker 3: that whatever, I understood.

2416
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:47,200
Speaker 1: Why he did it.

2417
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:48,600
Speaker 2: It's fine. Uh.

2418
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,360
Speaker 3: But you know, guy got a raw deal in Sacramento

2419
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,520
Speaker 3: because the owners with the nut job, you know, bound

2420
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:57,640
Speaker 3: bounced around, got a job in Denver and is on

2421
02:01:57,680 --> 02:02:00,120
Speaker 3: the precipice of winning a championship, a basketball life for

2422
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 3: his father coached in the NBA for years, you know,

2423
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:06,160
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a great story. I say, it's

2424
02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:07,920
Speaker 3: a it's a roster full of guys that are easy

2425
02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 3: to root for.

2426
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, again with you talk about the

2427
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 2: health of the league with the way the the way

2428
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:20,320
Speaker 2: the job Moran Thik played at and most recently you

2429
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 2: got the Zion drama, it's good to actually have a

2430
02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 2: rootable team and right, you know, and a good story,

2431
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:32,560
Speaker 2: like you need a good story and the Nuggets are

2432
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 2: a good story for the league.

2433
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 1: And you kind of typically don't get that.

2434
02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:39,720
Speaker 3: Here's always go to mean like the NBA is so

2435
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:43,520
Speaker 3: star driven and usually the stars are picking and choosing

2436
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:45,520
Speaker 3: what team they want to go to, and they're always

2437
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 3: out in the media and doing there even the Golden

2438
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:49,680
Speaker 3: State Warriors. I know Steph is the face of it,

2439
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 3: but I mean Draymond's the voice, you know, and nobody

2440
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 3: wants to hear from.

2441
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:55,440
Speaker 1: Him, you know.

2442
02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:59,640
Speaker 3: So it is exceedingly rare in today's NBA to have

2443
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 3: a group of guys, to your point, where up and

2444
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:06,240
Speaker 3: down the roster one through fifteen, they're easily rootable. They're

2445
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 3: not a you know, they're not a hateable bunch or

2446
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 3: there's not a hateable face in there.

2447
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean that's a yah. That's very, very big.

2448
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 3: And you can say that, by the way, about Miami too,

2449
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:18,880
Speaker 3: people on the top of it, by Jimmy Butler to

2450
02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 3: a degree, I think Jimmy Butler is just a tough

2451
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 3: grinder type. He rubs you the wrong way because if

2452
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:25,760
Speaker 3: you're not about basketball, taking it seriously, then he wants

2453
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 3: nothing to do with you, which I respect. So that's

2454
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:31,800
Speaker 3: really the only bad thing about him. But I mean,

2455
02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 3: they're a roster of you know, second rounders and free

2456
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:38,520
Speaker 3: agents and vagabonds and cast offs like Kevin Love, and

2457
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:42,440
Speaker 3: you know, you know that's you know, there's something easily

2458
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:43,880
Speaker 3: rootable about them too.

2459
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:49,040
Speaker 2: Man. Did you see the NBA free agent list?

2460
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:54,960
Speaker 1: Not the uh, not the greatest crop of talent, to

2461
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 1: say the least. Oh man, it's rough.

2462
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:00,440
Speaker 3: I mean when number one is Kyrie Irving, who from

2463
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:04,320
Speaker 3: a basketball standpoint is phenomenal. But you're obviously getting you're

2464
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:06,680
Speaker 3: you're getting in bed with a lot more than just basketball, and.

2465
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 1: You just don't know.

2466
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:11,160
Speaker 2: And he's so nuts right, you have no idea where

2467
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 2: he would want to go, and if he goes there,

2468
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:18,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to invest a lot of money you can.

2469
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm not touching him with a ten foot poll.

2470
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:23,840
Speaker 3: Like I know how the NBA is built, and like

2471
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 3: you need to have superstars to be able to compete,

2472
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 3: But there's a level of having the right superstar and

2473
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 3: paying the right guy.

2474
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 1: I would much rather be.

2475
02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:34,960
Speaker 3: You know what, if Kyrie can want to come here

2476
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 3: and want to sign a max deal for forty million

2477
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:39,680
Speaker 3: a year, I'm not comfortable making that commitment.

2478
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it.

2479
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 2: That's tough.

2480
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 3: Give me another first round pick and I'll give me

2481
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:45,840
Speaker 3: some Give me a kid in here that I can

2482
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:48,360
Speaker 3: coach up in both myself and not deal with you

2483
02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 3: and all the baggage that you have.

2484
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 2: Don't.

2485
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't want the drama of it.

2486
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't. Oh, he's another one we forgot. First time

2487
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:56,560
Speaker 2: winner Toronto.

2488
02:04:56,800 --> 02:05:01,600
Speaker 3: Thank you, yes, of course, thank you, dank Toronto Raptors,

2489
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:06,280
Speaker 3: which was insane and kind of like the only way unfortunately,

2490
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:09,200
Speaker 3: a roster or a team like that could win. You

2491
02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:12,400
Speaker 3: take a big swing for a guy like Kawhi by

2492
02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:14,520
Speaker 3: the way, that breaks father away. I mean, the Golden

2493
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:16,879
Speaker 3: State Warriors just were dropping like flies in the finals.

2494
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:19,880
Speaker 3: I still feel like, even after Kevin Durant got hurt,

2495
02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 3: if Klay Thompson doesn't get injured, I think Golden State

2496
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 3: still wins that series. Yes, but still all credit in

2497
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 3: the world to Toronto to get that victory. They'll remember

2498
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:30,320
Speaker 3: that forever, and Kawhi is gonna be a legend in

2499
02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:32,520
Speaker 3: Toronto forever, even though he left and only played there

2500
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:33,360
Speaker 3: for a season.

2501
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, let me switch gears for a moment. Yep,

2502
02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:44,200
Speaker 2: and let's go to college football. So the Big can

2503
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:53,720
Speaker 2: They had their protective protected rivalry games, correct, now? These

2504
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 2: are these are the protective Robbie. I'm curious at your thoughts, obviously. Michigan,

2505
02:05:58,120 --> 02:06:18,839
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Iowa,

2506
02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 2: Maryland Rutgers huh, Indiana, Purdue Illinois, Purdue Huh, Illinois, Northwestern

2507
02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 2: USC UCLA.

2508
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 3: The Maryland Rutgers one is, uh, my guess is they're

2509
02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:46,120
Speaker 3: the newest tour the newer entrants into the league and

2510
02:06:46,200 --> 02:06:48,800
Speaker 3: didn't have a natural arrival, So I guess they just

2511
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:51,879
Speaker 3: by osmosis had to be paired together or process of elimination.

2512
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 2: Which one is the little brown jug Minnesota Wisconsin.

2513
02:06:58,360 --> 02:07:00,320
Speaker 3: Is Minnesota Wisconsin. I believe that's like one of the

2514
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 3: oldest rivalries in all of college football.

2515
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:08,320
Speaker 2: I belief, Yeah, I mean Wiscon Nebraska, Iowa.

2516
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:14,000
Speaker 3: Really yeah that I don't understand that one either. Nebraska

2517
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:17,040
Speaker 3: doesn't have a natural arrival in the conference obviously, you know,

2518
02:07:17,160 --> 02:07:22,080
Speaker 3: and we predue. There's probably a long standing history there.

2519
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta protect where you know what, there's

2520
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:27,520
Speaker 2: where's penn State, Ohio State.

2521
02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:31,879
Speaker 3: I don't know if either of those schools consider themselves

2522
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:35,400
Speaker 3: rivals like that though, I really don't.

2523
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you some.

2524
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:38,000
Speaker 1: Good programs for sure.

2525
02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 2: Well here's why the rivals though, I mean, well, is

2526
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 2: that penn Pennsylvania, Ohio because they're you know, border states

2527
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 2: that they have a high school game, big thirty three game, yep,

2528
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:57,360
Speaker 2: And it's a big deal. And I would think that

2529
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:00,680
Speaker 2: that Penn State Ohio State would be a per perfect one.

2530
02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 3: It would be, but again, my guess would be it's

2531
02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 3: not necessarily viewed as like a historical rifle.

2532
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't know why it's not. I mean, even Pet

2533
02:08:14,200 --> 02:08:23,440
Speaker 2: State Michigan has had some amazing, amazing games. Mah, yeah, yeah,

2534
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:28,040
Speaker 2: I just I'm surprised. Yeah, I mean it's also difficult.

2535
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody can't have you know, two and three

2536
02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 3: you know rivals, because then it just kind of messes

2537
02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 3: up the schedule, so you kind of have to chop

2538
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:39,000
Speaker 3: it down somewhere. The fact that Michigan already has to

2539
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 3: have both, you know, Michigan State and Ohio State. You know,

2540
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:44,280
Speaker 3: some only have like one natural rival.

2541
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 2: I think you should have everybody should have two protected

2542
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:49,760
Speaker 2: I guess right.

2543
02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 1: Okay, that would make sense.

2544
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:52,640
Speaker 3: But I mean SE and u c LA as of now,

2545
02:08:52,640 --> 02:08:55,720
Speaker 3: only have each other since they're brand new.

2546
02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe it'll evolve.

2547
02:08:58,520 --> 02:09:02,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, it's gonna be weird. It's gonna

2548
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:04,280
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how this whole thing plays out.

2549
02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I feel like the only obvious ones that like,

2550
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:11,680
Speaker 3: you know, smack you over the head, Wisconsin and Minnesota, Michigan,

2551
02:09:11,720 --> 02:09:14,800
Speaker 3: Ohio State, Ohio, Michigan, Michigan State, usc U.

2552
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:15,320
Speaker 1: C l A.

2553
02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but those are the other ones like that. Those

2554
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:22,880
Speaker 3: are like like the Illinois Northwestern or whatever. I get

2555
02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:25,960
Speaker 3: for the Chicago thing, you know whatever. Yeah, I don't

2556
02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:29,680
Speaker 3: get Illinois Purdue at all. Indiana Purdue is Indiana Purdue.

2557
02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 1: Yes, you get that. That's your battle of Indiana.

2558
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:36,600
Speaker 2: Yep. Maryland Rutgers is exactly what you said, which is, well,

2559
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:38,000
Speaker 2: it's Jersey and Maryland.

2560
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:40,600
Speaker 1: They just don't have rivals. They haven't been in the

2561
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:41,400
Speaker 1: conference long enough.

2562
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:45,520
Speaker 2: Nebraska has got no rival, so they throw Iowa because

2563
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:50,560
Speaker 2: that's the closest plain state. Yep. But in reality, you know,

2564
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:53,640
Speaker 2: that's where you know, you think about Nebraska and the

2565
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:57,880
Speaker 2: two rivals are Oklahoma and Colorado.

2566
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:02,160
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, they're still there's still rumblings about Nebraska.

2567
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:03,920
Speaker 3: Pot I don't think they do it. It wouldn't make

2568
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 3: sense about them leaving the Big Ten and going back

2569
02:10:06,200 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 3: to the Big twelve.

2570
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:10,840
Speaker 2: I've heard that. I got news for you. That would

2571
02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 2: be the biggest coup for the Big twelve. The only

2572
02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 2: way to Salad's truly salvage because you need the you

2573
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:27,640
Speaker 2: would need Oklahoma, Colorado and Nebraska together, Right, that's power.

2574
02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:31,400
Speaker 1: Well, you're already gonna lose Oklahoma.

2575
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 3: So that's that's the part that So if you're gonna

2576
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:37,840
Speaker 3: lose Oklahoma, if you can get to Colorado and Nebraska.

2577
02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 2: If you're in Nebraska, you can't go back. Yeah, Now

2578
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:41,880
Speaker 2: you can only go back if Oklahoma is there.

2579
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Because how long until coach prime and they roll?

2580
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows, summer are saying this year. I

2581
02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:53,040
Speaker 3: don't see it, but someone are saying as early as

2582
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 3: this year. But there's definitely talk about, you know, the

2583
02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:57,760
Speaker 3: PAC twelve. He's going back and forth about the TV thing,

2584
02:10:57,800 --> 02:11:00,879
Speaker 3: and I know they had their you know, granted rights,

2585
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:02,480
Speaker 3: you know, agreed to earlier this week.

2586
02:11:02,720 --> 02:11:04,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a matter of time.

2587
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:07,880
Speaker 3: Before that conference falls apart and Colorado's gonna have to

2588
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 3: go somewhere. I think it's really I think it's very

2589
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:13,800
Speaker 3: realistic that Colorado finds its way back into the Big twelve.

2590
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 3: And if they do again, I think the money is

2591
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:18,560
Speaker 3: too great in the Big ten and the Big ten

2592
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:21,080
Speaker 3: is only going to go up. I don't think that

2593
02:11:21,120 --> 02:11:22,920
Speaker 3: Nebraska would necessarily consider leaving.

2594
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 1: Do you think you know it's gonna be the other

2595
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:27,360
Speaker 1: shoot a drop?

2596
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:32,640
Speaker 2: Is this? With the streamers involved? How long until one

2597
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:36,959
Speaker 2: of those streamers coaches a conference, an entire conference?

2598
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably sooner on the horizon than Mini would think.

2599
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we already have you know.

2600
02:11:44,120 --> 02:11:46,600
Speaker 2: OSMA Hulu, and I go, you know what, I want

2601
02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:47,800
Speaker 2: to go all in on the Big ten?

2602
02:11:47,960 --> 02:11:50,920
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Well, I think the Big Ten just inc

2603
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:55,360
Speaker 3: the Giant deal. I've just thrown it out there, right whatever, right, Look,

2604
02:11:55,600 --> 02:11:57,360
Speaker 3: that might be what the PAC twelve has to do.

2605
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:00,879
Speaker 3: The PAC twelve might have to do like a streaming

2606
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:03,320
Speaker 3: exclusive with Amazon or something if they're not getting the

2607
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:04,840
Speaker 3: kind of money that they think they're gonna get.

2608
02:12:04,880 --> 02:12:08,840
Speaker 2: I mean, at some point, and doesn't that's where it's

2609
02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:09,960
Speaker 2: well headed now anyway.

2610
02:12:10,760 --> 02:12:12,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and look it's already started. We're gonna have

2611
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:14,600
Speaker 3: an NFL playoff game. I think that's gonna be on

2612
02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:18,040
Speaker 3: Peacock only this year Peacock. I think of the new

2613
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:19,880
Speaker 3: NBC deal that they have with the Big Ten, I

2614
02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 3: think I think a handful of those games are going

2615
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:25,720
Speaker 3: to be Peacock exclusives you have to. Yeah, so that's

2616
02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:27,840
Speaker 3: definitely direction it's going because.

2617
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:31,760
Speaker 2: Those you know, those streamers is where you know, and

2618
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:37,640
Speaker 2: again that's where that's that's where that thing is. Absolutely

2619
02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:41,600
Speaker 2: and you still have outliars, right like when you have outliars,

2620
02:12:42,200 --> 02:12:49,280
Speaker 2: you got disruptors. Who loses disruptor So paramount, CBS, Peacock's NBC. Correct,

2621
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:55,280
Speaker 2: you have you know, ESPN, ABC with Disney, and then

2622
02:12:55,800 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 2: you have Fox obviously, and then you know who's to

2623
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 2: say in Amazon, who's already in the NFL game? Yep?

2624
02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:08,280
Speaker 2: Who just say? We talked about Hulu.

2625
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:12,320
Speaker 3: Apple Plus Sports Time here. They got a baseball deal.

2626
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:15,680
Speaker 3: They're doing all of MLS.

2627
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 1: All the MLS. Like you said, it's fascinating. A matter

2628
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:20,320
Speaker 1: of time.

2629
02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, YouTube's already taken, you know, the Sunday ticket. Yes,

2630
02:13:25,040 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 3: like it's it's a it's already happening.

2631
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's that whole landscape is going to change.

2632
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:35,600
Speaker 2: It won't look the same in three years.

2633
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:36,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.

2634
02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:39,600
Speaker 3: No, unless you have a contract that's already grandfathered in

2635
02:13:39,600 --> 02:13:41,520
Speaker 3: and most of these you know, ten twelve year deals

2636
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 3: whatever by the next the next time these rounds come up,

2637
02:13:44,960 --> 02:13:48,200
Speaker 3: would not surprise me if we're almost exclusively streaming, you

2638
02:13:48,200 --> 02:13:54,600
Speaker 3: know by then if we're talking, yeah, all right, uh.

2639
02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:57,080
Speaker 2: Fela Is will take a look at the world of

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02:13:57,120 --> 02:14:01,400
Speaker 2: sports from a betting standpoint. Coming up next, the Big Brain,

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Speaker 2: our man, Brad Feinberg, betting analyst, will join us next

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Speaker 2: a look at the world of sports from a betting standpoint.

2650
02:14:49,880 --> 02:14:53,360
Speaker 2: And my main man, the Big Brain on Brad Brad Feinberg,

2651
02:14:53,400 --> 02:14:55,960
Speaker 2: our betting analyst, on the line with us.

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02:14:56,000 --> 02:15:00,320
Speaker 1: Bradley, good morning, Good morning, all.

2653
02:15:00,320 --> 02:15:05,760
Speaker 2: Right, buddy, we something seals made that you did very

2654
02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:06,640
Speaker 2: well last night.

2655
02:15:07,760 --> 02:15:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, last night it was a great game for me. Look,

2656
02:15:11,160 --> 02:15:14,080
Speaker 4: I know, Anthony, me and you spoke a few days earlier.

2657
02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:19,240
Speaker 4: I know we both thought Denver was just They're just

2658
02:15:19,240 --> 02:15:24,480
Speaker 4: better than Miami. The first two games, I was on

2659
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:28,000
Speaker 4: Miami getting nine split. Last two games, I was on

2660
02:15:28,160 --> 02:15:31,760
Speaker 4: Denver laying two and then laying three. So you know,

2661
02:15:33,400 --> 02:15:35,120
Speaker 4: if you know, this reminds me of a little bit.

2662
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:38,120
Speaker 4: I was thinking about it. I just mentioned this to you,

2663
02:15:38,160 --> 02:15:43,680
Speaker 4: but it reminded me of when the Sixers got to

2664
02:15:43,680 --> 02:15:46,480
Speaker 4: the finals like twenty years ago, and they think that

2665
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:47,760
Speaker 4: and obviously this team is.

2666
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:49,480
Speaker 2: As good as that Lakers team.

2667
02:15:49,720 --> 02:15:52,560
Speaker 4: You were able to win that one overtime game, and

2668
02:15:52,680 --> 02:15:54,200
Speaker 4: but you know, and they were able to keep the

2669
02:15:54,240 --> 02:15:58,040
Speaker 4: games somewhat okay, but the Lakers were just better. And

2670
02:15:58,080 --> 02:16:00,920
Speaker 4: it was the one and five. I and when after

2671
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:03,360
Speaker 4: Game three, I was like, kind of reminded me of that.

2672
02:16:03,400 --> 02:16:08,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, I thought that maybe Denver, maybe

2673
02:16:08,040 --> 02:16:10,400
Speaker 4: Miami could keep the game close, but it was probably

2674
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:13,280
Speaker 4: the game they were gonna lose again by about twelve points.

2675
02:16:13,320 --> 02:16:17,720
Speaker 4: And it's kind of what happened. They're just they they

2676
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:20,720
Speaker 4: think some teams that didn't have the Denver is just

2677
02:16:21,720 --> 02:16:25,080
Speaker 4: they're just too good offensively, too consistent. Yukis just too

2678
02:16:25,080 --> 02:16:27,840
Speaker 4: hard to stop, and you know, Miami just doesn't have

2679
02:16:27,920 --> 02:16:30,800
Speaker 4: the talent to keep up with the team. It's just

2680
02:16:31,200 --> 02:16:33,480
Speaker 4: it's not because they're not trying hard. It's not because

2681
02:16:33,680 --> 02:16:36,800
Speaker 4: they don't they're not mentally tough. They just don't have

2682
02:16:36,879 --> 02:16:41,400
Speaker 4: the same players that Denver has. It's just again, it's

2683
02:16:42,480 --> 02:16:44,640
Speaker 4: I thought maybe they'd a chance of winning two games,

2684
02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:47,840
Speaker 4: and after it was one one, like maybe they can

2685
02:16:47,840 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 4: get a second game. But it looks like this is

2686
02:16:50,400 --> 02:16:52,880
Speaker 4: just going to be clearly you know, Denver and five

2687
02:16:52,879 --> 02:16:54,720
Speaker 4: and they're a better team. They deserve to win.

2688
02:16:55,600 --> 02:16:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, they just don't match up.

2689
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:01,120
Speaker 4: They just don't match up. That's exactly ye Like, listen,

2690
02:17:01,160 --> 02:17:02,680
Speaker 4: you don't need to meet me to tell you that

2691
02:17:02,720 --> 02:17:05,000
Speaker 4: if anyone who's watching this series could be the one

2692
02:17:05,000 --> 02:17:07,240
Speaker 4: team's just better than the other team, end the story.

2693
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean last night was like the perfect illustration

2694
02:17:12,600 --> 02:17:16,640
Speaker 2: of that, because you got yo kids. He you know,

2695
02:17:16,760 --> 02:17:19,680
Speaker 2: he was just okay last night. He wasn't great, you know,

2696
02:17:19,840 --> 02:17:22,160
Speaker 2: he was just okay. Didn't shoot the ball particularly well.

2697
02:17:22,760 --> 02:17:26,280
Speaker 2: You know, was evolved obviously as a passer, but you know,

2698
02:17:26,520 --> 02:17:29,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't like he was racking up fifteen dimes either.

2699
02:17:29,600 --> 02:17:32,400
Speaker 4: Mary miss Jocks too. Mary was like five to seventeen

2700
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:36,320
Speaker 4: even with their f level game. And I always say

2701
02:17:36,400 --> 02:17:37,959
Speaker 4: f level, but that's not there. But they had a

2702
02:17:37,959 --> 02:17:40,279
Speaker 4: guy like Gordon who stepped.

2703
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:43,279
Speaker 2: Up and Brown, Yeah, Brown.

2704
02:17:43,240 --> 02:17:44,680
Speaker 4: You know he was. I gotta tell you that the

2705
02:17:44,840 --> 02:17:47,920
Speaker 4: Brown than me. Out of all the free agent signings,

2706
02:17:48,160 --> 02:17:52,400
Speaker 4: I think Brown may have been this offseason right up

2707
02:17:52,400 --> 02:17:55,480
Speaker 4: there is the best free agent signing in all basketball.

2708
02:17:55,640 --> 02:17:57,760
Speaker 4: He played great for the Nets. They got him in

2709
02:17:57,800 --> 02:18:02,200
Speaker 4: a very cheap deal, and he's played really, really well

2710
02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:04,760
Speaker 4: for this team. He's gonna get a very nice payday

2711
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:06,359
Speaker 4: in my opinion, in this offseason.

2712
02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

2713
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:09,440
Speaker 1: And you know what he does well, Like he does

2714
02:18:09,480 --> 02:18:10,800
Speaker 1: a lot of little things like he give.

2715
02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:14,320
Speaker 2: Me, he'll hit it open. Three, plays good defense. He

2716
02:18:14,440 --> 02:18:17,440
Speaker 2: also areat like you can actually run though. He's a

2717
02:18:17,480 --> 02:18:21,680
Speaker 2: great passer and you know, so you could actually run

2718
02:18:22,360 --> 02:18:26,800
Speaker 2: the offense through him, and particularly Denver, who's different that way,

2719
02:18:26,879 --> 02:18:29,560
Speaker 2: right because they have a point guard in Memory, but

2720
02:18:29,680 --> 02:18:32,080
Speaker 2: he marries really kind of like more of a two

2721
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:34,680
Speaker 2: so yo kids kind of plays that role.

2722
02:18:34,720 --> 02:18:37,520
Speaker 1: But so does Brown almost like a point four.

2723
02:18:38,640 --> 02:18:42,080
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. Anthony looked last year for Brooklyn a

2724
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:45,160
Speaker 4: lot of points last year he was doing exactly what

2725
02:18:45,200 --> 02:18:48,279
Speaker 4: you just said. He really was running their their offense

2726
02:18:48,680 --> 02:18:52,440
Speaker 4: and he averaged Toerne assistus year. I mean, he he's

2727
02:18:52,480 --> 02:18:55,160
Speaker 4: clearly a guy, yet he's a very important player to

2728
02:18:55,200 --> 02:18:58,200
Speaker 4: that team. And again I've been extremely impressed with him.

2729
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:00,400
Speaker 4: And as I said, I just think he's a winning player.

2730
02:19:01,600 --> 02:19:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that description. Yeah, I like that description.

2731
02:19:06,400 --> 02:19:09,440
Speaker 4: The winning player makes plays and you could do a

2732
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:11,800
Speaker 4: little bit of everything. And you know what, guys like

2733
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:15,039
Speaker 4: that that don't cost too much. That's how you win titles.

2734
02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:20,720
Speaker 2: Obviously, yes, yes, but you know we focused on the stars,

2735
02:19:20,920 --> 02:19:23,680
Speaker 2: like right, we're you know, in the NBA lost stars

2736
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:26,680
Speaker 2: and of them, I'm star hunting and I need this

2737
02:19:26,680 --> 02:19:29,880
Speaker 2: guy and I need that guy, and you go, yeah,

2738
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:34,480
Speaker 2: like you need stars. But like Mary is a terrific player,

2739
02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:39,440
Speaker 2: he's a star light. And jo Kis is your big

2740
02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:42,879
Speaker 2: he's your big name, and you got your poogra grades

2741
02:19:44,360 --> 02:19:44,840
Speaker 2: I couldn't have.

2742
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:47,240
Speaker 4: I could not agree with you more. I could not

2743
02:19:47,280 --> 02:19:49,720
Speaker 4: agree with you more. Again, they're a deserving champion, and

2744
02:19:49,720 --> 02:19:51,199
Speaker 4: again I would be son.

2745
02:19:51,400 --> 02:19:52,160
Speaker 2: I know we can't.

2746
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:54,760
Speaker 4: Miami's that team. You can't, you know you.

2747
02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:56,080
Speaker 2: Can't, or vampires.

2748
02:19:56,520 --> 02:20:00,120
Speaker 4: So but I'm counting. I'm counting them out. I just

2749
02:20:00,200 --> 02:20:02,320
Speaker 4: six the team that it's too good.

2750
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:05,360
Speaker 1: Here, all right, sit sight good fig he's here with

2751
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:09,800
Speaker 1: some trending. All right, Yeah, we'll speak to that. Of

2752
02:20:09,800 --> 02:20:10,200
Speaker 1: the NBA.

2753
02:20:10,240 --> 02:20:12,840
Speaker 3: You guys are just talking about the Denver Nuggets up

2754
02:20:12,879 --> 02:20:15,360
Speaker 3: three games to one after picking up a one away

2755
02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:18,640
Speaker 3: to ninety five victory in Miami Friday night. Aaron Gordon

2756
02:20:18,959 --> 02:20:22,560
Speaker 3: a career night twenty seven points, eleven of fifteen shooting

2757
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:25,199
Speaker 3: from the floor. Nicola Jokich not terrible twenty three points,

2758
02:20:25,240 --> 02:20:28,640
Speaker 3: twelve boards, three steals, and three block shots. Denver can

2759
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:31,640
Speaker 3: lock up its first championship in franchise history if they

2760
02:20:31,640 --> 02:20:34,959
Speaker 3: get a win at home in Game five on Monday night,

2761
02:20:35,280 --> 02:20:38,360
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball Showio Tinys struck out six batters also

2762
02:20:38,480 --> 02:20:40,840
Speaker 3: hit a home run for the Angels. They beat Seattle

2763
02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:43,640
Speaker 3: five to four for their fourth straight victory. Padres get

2764
02:20:43,640 --> 02:20:47,000
Speaker 3: home runs for Manny Machado and Fernando Tatis Junior. They

2765
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:50,920
Speaker 3: defeated Colorado nine to six. Cleveland and extra innings victory

2766
02:20:50,959 --> 02:20:53,880
Speaker 3: over Houston ten to nine. That game actually went fourteen innings.

2767
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:56,680
Speaker 3: White Sox walked off the Marlins Tampa Bay in eight

2768
02:20:56,720 --> 02:20:59,440
Speaker 3: to three victory over the Rangers. Braves picked up their

2769
02:20:59,480 --> 02:21:02,640
Speaker 3: six straight win after beating Washington Red Sox getting home

2770
02:21:02,720 --> 02:21:05,200
Speaker 3: runs from Rafeo Devers and Key Key Hernandez in a

2771
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:07,920
Speaker 3: three to two victory over the Yankees Pittsburgh Hamer at

2772
02:21:07,959 --> 02:21:10,320
Speaker 3: the Mets fourteen to seven. New York has lost seven

2773
02:21:10,360 --> 02:21:13,160
Speaker 3: straight games, and they also lose Pete Alonzo, who has

2774
02:21:13,160 --> 02:21:16,040
Speaker 3: been placed on the injured list with an injured risk.

2775
02:21:16,120 --> 02:21:18,920
Speaker 1: He will be out for at least three weeks.

2776
02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:21,760
Speaker 2: All right, back to the fellas, all right, thank you

2777
02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:25,840
Speaker 2: fig we appreciated live from thee tiraq dot com studios,

2778
02:21:25,879 --> 02:21:28,880
Speaker 2: the Fellas of Anthony Gargano, Kevin Figures and of course

2779
02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:32,359
Speaker 2: our betting analyst with us, the Big Brain, Brad Feinberg,

2780
02:21:32,879 --> 02:21:38,680
Speaker 2: a brain. Let's today's an underrated Well, this weekend is

2781
02:21:38,720 --> 02:21:42,040
Speaker 2: an underrated sports weekend. It's just a little You got

2782
02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:45,519
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything. So let's go, miss mosh.

2783
02:21:45,840 --> 02:21:50,359
Speaker 2: Let's start off. You got the Belmont and the Triple Crown,

2784
02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:52,680
Speaker 2: anything you like.

2785
02:21:52,720 --> 02:21:54,879
Speaker 1: You the Belmont weird thing.

2786
02:21:55,000 --> 02:21:59,040
Speaker 4: It's interesting. The Belmont is is the one race or

2787
02:21:59,080 --> 02:22:02,360
Speaker 4: the racist work. The favorite usually has a lot of success.

2788
02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:04,440
Speaker 4: I look back in the history of the Belmont Stakes,

2789
02:22:04,480 --> 02:22:08,200
Speaker 4: the favorite he's actually won the Belmont Steaks forty three

2790
02:22:08,240 --> 02:22:11,720
Speaker 4: percent of the time. Wow, which is a massive number

2791
02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:15,800
Speaker 4: of it. I think it's I think it's I think

2792
02:22:15,840 --> 02:22:18,120
Speaker 4: it's a combination of maybe the length of an Anthony

2793
02:22:18,120 --> 02:22:20,520
Speaker 4: and also the fact that there's just maybe a little

2794
02:22:20,560 --> 02:22:23,720
Speaker 4: bit more data after saying maybe you know the Derby

2795
02:22:23,720 --> 02:22:26,080
Speaker 4: and the Preakness, but I also do think the length

2796
02:22:26,120 --> 02:22:31,000
Speaker 4: of it, and maybe horse is made to race that distance. Okay,

2797
02:22:31,440 --> 02:22:33,840
Speaker 4: And look, Forte is the favorite. Look, I had a

2798
02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:37,400
Speaker 4: couple exactis and I have Forte in second in mind,

2799
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:40,280
Speaker 4: but I took a chance on Arcangelo and the reason

2800
02:22:40,320 --> 02:22:43,080
Speaker 4: being Anthony. Look, he's getting around eight to one. He

2801
02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:45,920
Speaker 4: did win the Peter Pan Steaks at the Belmont, Okay,

2802
02:22:46,520 --> 02:22:50,320
Speaker 4: and his style is to come from behind race. He's

2803
02:22:50,400 --> 02:22:53,879
Speaker 4: bred for that distance. His fire was tap it. Who

2804
02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:54,440
Speaker 4: is that way?

2805
02:22:54,920 --> 02:22:55,040
Speaker 2: Uh?

2806
02:22:55,200 --> 02:23:00,120
Speaker 4: And look to me, I'm looking for a horse that again.

2807
02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:02,840
Speaker 4: One Again, I don't mind the five to two for Forte,

2808
02:23:02,920 --> 02:23:05,840
Speaker 4: but I like doing some of the exact disn't open

2809
02:23:05,879 --> 02:23:08,760
Speaker 4: to maybe get a crazy payday on something like that,

2810
02:23:09,080 --> 02:23:12,320
Speaker 4: But those are the two horses I'm looking at. Again,

2811
02:23:12,400 --> 02:23:14,280
Speaker 4: I do respect the favorite, especially with the history of

2812
02:23:14,280 --> 02:23:16,400
Speaker 4: the beam on how well the favorite's done. And I

2813
02:23:16,400 --> 02:23:19,640
Speaker 4: think this Arcangelo based on his history and what he's

2814
02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:21,560
Speaker 4: bred for. You know, eight to one, I think, and

2815
02:23:21,600 --> 02:23:23,160
Speaker 4: again I don't. I think you can do worse.

2816
02:23:24,080 --> 02:23:26,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I like Archangel too. I

2817
02:23:26,879 --> 02:23:29,000
Speaker 2: think you're I think you're right about that.

2818
02:23:29,640 --> 02:23:29,760
Speaker 4: Uh.

2819
02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:38,920
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Finals resumes tonight. Florida the hall Man. They

2820
02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:43,360
Speaker 2: have to go to ot Oh. It looks like they're

2821
02:23:43,360 --> 02:23:47,200
Speaker 2: in major trouble. But they win, and now it's two

2822
02:23:47,240 --> 02:23:51,000
Speaker 2: to one. They can even this series as lop sided

2823
02:23:51,120 --> 02:23:54,160
Speaker 2: as the first two games. Well, yeah, they can actually

2824
02:23:54,240 --> 02:23:56,080
Speaker 2: even this series. Brad.

2825
02:23:56,600 --> 02:23:59,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got lucky. I bet Florida in Games three, Anthony,

2826
02:24:00,280 --> 02:24:02,440
Speaker 4: and I didn't deserve to win that one in my opinion,

2827
02:24:02,520 --> 02:24:04,080
Speaker 4: But you know what, every now and I don't take

2828
02:24:04,080 --> 02:24:07,400
Speaker 4: a look you win. Look that was the kitchen sink

2829
02:24:07,440 --> 02:24:10,600
Speaker 4: game right for Florida, and that's exactly what it was.

2830
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:13,400
Speaker 4: They threw everything out him if the kitchen sing Kachuck

2831
02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:17,320
Speaker 4: came up huge yet again. Right now, this game, Barti's

2832
02:24:17,360 --> 02:24:19,880
Speaker 4: ran a dollar fifteen favorite nights around minus one oh five.

2833
02:24:20,240 --> 02:24:22,360
Speaker 4: The only way I come up now that Florida got

2834
02:24:22,360 --> 02:24:26,200
Speaker 4: their win and save the season. Now, look I look

2835
02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:28,840
Speaker 4: at Vegas. Look, Vegas has been the better team. Vegas

2836
02:24:28,879 --> 02:24:31,960
Speaker 4: looks like the better team. There's been three games. Vegas

2837
02:24:31,959 --> 02:24:34,440
Speaker 4: dominated the first two. Vegas, in my opinion, should have

2838
02:24:34,480 --> 02:24:37,440
Speaker 4: won the third game as well. You get him around

2839
02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:41,520
Speaker 4: a pick only way I can look here is Vegas,

2840
02:24:41,600 --> 02:24:45,200
Speaker 4: and I actually also lean under the over under six. Again.

2841
02:24:45,240 --> 02:24:47,000
Speaker 4: I expect it to be a you know, a tight game,

2842
02:24:47,360 --> 02:24:49,800
Speaker 4: and I don't necessarily think, you know, any of the

2843
02:24:49,800 --> 02:24:51,840
Speaker 4: teams are gonna, you know, get to get to the

2844
02:24:51,879 --> 02:24:53,840
Speaker 4: four goals and glets me be a lower scoring game.

2845
02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:57,680
Speaker 4: And I Bbrovski's playing great. You know, I have to last.

2846
02:24:57,840 --> 02:24:59,840
Speaker 4: He played great in game three. At least I should say,

2847
02:25:00,160 --> 02:25:02,920
Speaker 4: have a great playoffs Again, I could see this being

2848
02:25:02,959 --> 02:25:06,320
Speaker 4: more like a two to one, three to one two zero.

2849
02:25:06,400 --> 02:25:08,600
Speaker 4: I think a lower scoring game. I like under six,

2850
02:25:09,400 --> 02:25:10,520
Speaker 4: and I think Vegas will win.

2851
02:25:11,320 --> 02:25:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see Vegas took. I kind of feel

2852
02:25:14,200 --> 02:25:17,959
Speaker 2: the same way I think Vegas comes back. All right,

2853
02:25:18,040 --> 02:25:23,720
Speaker 2: let's go to soccer, because it is the Champions League final,

2854
02:25:24,720 --> 02:25:29,959
Speaker 2: man City against a sure right, this is man City

2855
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:32,320
Speaker 2: is a what minus one ninety favorite?

2856
02:25:33,080 --> 02:25:35,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let me explain something, Anthony that it's very

2857
02:25:35,480 --> 02:25:38,640
Speaker 4: important I think a lot of the listeners may not understand. Yes,

2858
02:25:39,160 --> 02:25:43,680
Speaker 4: they're minus one ninety favorite in regulation time. So what

2859
02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:46,360
Speaker 4: that means is, I from everyone listening, if you want

2860
02:25:46,360 --> 02:25:48,240
Speaker 4: to bet this game, they have to win in the

2861
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:51,200
Speaker 4: first ninety minutes plus extra time. If there if it's

2862
02:25:51,240 --> 02:25:53,840
Speaker 4: two to two or one to one after ninety minutes,

2863
02:25:54,400 --> 02:25:57,240
Speaker 4: you lose your bet. Okay. And if you want to

2864
02:25:57,280 --> 02:25:59,640
Speaker 4: just bet on Man City just to a dan, they're Anthony,

2865
02:25:59,640 --> 02:26:02,240
Speaker 4: they're around minus four hundred areas. Yeah, okay, see I'm

2866
02:26:02,560 --> 02:26:04,920
Speaker 4: double okay, But you never.

2867
02:26:04,760 --> 02:26:06,920
Speaker 2: Want to do that though, because not just because of

2868
02:26:06,959 --> 02:26:10,600
Speaker 2: the big odds, but also because if you're an extra

2869
02:26:10,760 --> 02:26:16,840
Speaker 2: time and then pe K's it just it really favors

2870
02:26:16,879 --> 02:26:18,920
Speaker 2: the doll It's anybody's match.

2871
02:26:19,160 --> 02:26:21,360
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I was gonna say with me if

2872
02:26:21,400 --> 02:26:22,880
Speaker 4: I'm one of the only way I come up to

2873
02:26:22,920 --> 02:26:25,760
Speaker 4: this game is taking Man City laying the one ninety

2874
02:26:25,840 --> 02:26:28,560
Speaker 4: in regulation time. They're having one of those years Anthony,

2875
02:26:28,600 --> 02:26:31,240
Speaker 4: Whereig and I'm not. I'm not stefinitely in front of

2876
02:26:31,240 --> 02:26:34,480
Speaker 4: that train. I'm just not. They've been that good, They've

2877
02:26:34,480 --> 02:26:39,280
Speaker 4: been that consistent all year, okay, and I just have

2878
02:26:39,440 --> 02:26:42,960
Speaker 4: no interest in fading that uh minus one ninety obviously

2879
02:26:42,959 --> 02:26:45,000
Speaker 4: always a little scary in a soccer game because there's

2880
02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:48,360
Speaker 4: so few goals scored. It just takes one goal from

2881
02:26:48,360 --> 02:26:50,560
Speaker 4: Inter Milan and you're you could be in real big trouble.

2882
02:26:51,560 --> 02:26:54,760
Speaker 4: But again, I the only way I can look here

2883
02:26:55,080 --> 02:26:57,560
Speaker 4: is man City, And again I would definitely take them

2884
02:26:57,600 --> 02:27:00,000
Speaker 4: to win in regulation time. I have no interesting life.

2885
02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:02,200
Speaker 4: Four to one, I will lay a dollar ninety in

2886
02:27:02,240 --> 02:27:04,800
Speaker 4: regulation time. I think that this team has been the

2887
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:07,040
Speaker 4: best team all year and they will complete everything and

2888
02:27:07,080 --> 02:27:08,160
Speaker 4: win the Champions League.

2889
02:27:08,920 --> 02:27:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I feel you.

2890
02:27:10,720 --> 02:27:14,920
Speaker 2: I do. I think the same thing. And I could

2891
02:27:14,959 --> 02:27:19,560
Speaker 2: actually see uh, like a three nil type of site.

2892
02:27:19,680 --> 02:27:24,039
Speaker 4: Want to shock me. They're having one of those magical seasons,

2893
02:27:24,280 --> 02:27:27,360
Speaker 4: and again I would be very surprised if it's not

2894
02:27:28,240 --> 02:27:30,320
Speaker 4: you know, if it's not them, I really would. And

2895
02:27:30,320 --> 02:27:32,440
Speaker 4: if you want to do some exotics and and try

2896
02:27:32,440 --> 02:27:34,800
Speaker 4: to like get a huge payday on like a you know,

2897
02:27:34,879 --> 02:27:36,760
Speaker 4: a clean sheet and where they score their do have

2898
02:27:36,760 --> 02:27:39,879
Speaker 4: two nothing, three nothing, I have no problem doing that either.

2899
02:27:40,480 --> 02:27:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm with you on that one.

2900
02:27:44,840 --> 02:27:47,959
Speaker 2: I look at it, I just go, Yeah, they're just

2901
02:27:48,040 --> 02:27:52,200
Speaker 2: too good and they're having an amazing season. I think

2902
02:27:52,240 --> 02:27:58,360
Speaker 2: the same thing. All right, baseball, and.

2903
02:27:56,840 --> 02:27:59,959
Speaker 1: Do you all right? Great, let's just fire awa.

2904
02:28:00,800 --> 02:28:02,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna fire away Anthony. Look, I'll talk to the

2905
02:28:02,920 --> 02:28:07,000
Speaker 4: games first. I like the White Sox bus a dollar

2906
02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:10,360
Speaker 4: ten over the Marlins. Michael Kopek has left twenty one

2907
02:28:10,360 --> 02:28:12,840
Speaker 4: innings Athey says that's forty three hings. So that's forty

2908
02:28:12,879 --> 02:28:17,640
Speaker 4: eight twenty one hits, fifty two strikeouts. Been amazing. Al

2909
02:28:17,720 --> 02:28:20,360
Speaker 4: Kantara have the last year saw young Anthony over an

2910
02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:23,120
Speaker 4: e Ray over five. He's had no in his least

2911
02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:26,280
Speaker 4: ten fronts, no dominant starts. None, not one where he's

2912
02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:28,400
Speaker 4: allowed to either zero one run. That's I consider a

2913
02:28:28,400 --> 02:28:30,959
Speaker 4: dominant start. Kopek has four in his last ten. I

2914
02:28:31,000 --> 02:28:34,400
Speaker 4: think the wrong side favored White Sox there. I like

2915
02:28:34,600 --> 02:28:38,119
Speaker 4: Abbot Andrew Abbott plus the dollar forty five where Michelosa's

2916
02:28:38,320 --> 02:28:41,879
Speaker 4: Saint Louis Abbott was dominant in the minor leagues, had

2917
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:46,320
Speaker 4: ninety strikeouts fifty four innings. Love the Reds lineup getting

2918
02:28:46,440 --> 02:28:47,920
Speaker 4: about three to two odds in the game. I think

2919
02:28:47,920 --> 02:28:50,120
Speaker 4: it's much closer to a coin flip. I like the

2920
02:28:50,160 --> 02:28:53,400
Speaker 4: Reds here getting a big price under nine runs.

2921
02:28:53,600 --> 02:28:57,440
Speaker 2: I agree that that. I love that you and I

2922
02:28:57,520 --> 02:28:59,360
Speaker 2: both kind of are bullish. We talked about this the

2923
02:28:59,440 --> 02:29:01,440
Speaker 2: other day, but you and I are both bullish on

2924
02:29:01,480 --> 02:29:04,720
Speaker 2: the Reds, and not just because of the de La Cruz.

2925
02:29:05,600 --> 02:29:08,080
Speaker 4: Yes, the best young town in baseball. This one could

2926
02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:10,080
Speaker 4: be the old Charlie Brown. I'm gonna fall for the

2927
02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:12,720
Speaker 4: field goal when he moves the ball. But I'm gonna

2928
02:29:12,760 --> 02:29:17,040
Speaker 4: take Bobby Miller Aaron Nola under nine runs. I'm hoping

2929
02:29:17,080 --> 02:29:20,119
Speaker 4: Nola's finally maybe turned a corner. Twelve strikeouts this last game.

2930
02:29:20,400 --> 02:29:23,200
Speaker 4: Miller's been insane, seventeen innings, nine hits in the era

2931
02:29:23,320 --> 02:29:25,880
Speaker 4: of one again, I don't think either team's going to

2932
02:29:25,920 --> 02:29:27,119
Speaker 4: get to six runs in that game.

2933
02:29:27,240 --> 02:29:29,480
Speaker 2: I bet under nine, and I hear you, you've got

2934
02:29:29,480 --> 02:29:32,120
Speaker 2: a lot of stones though. Going on there a Citizens

2935
02:29:32,240 --> 02:29:34,920
Speaker 2: Back Park when the weather like it's going to be

2936
02:29:34,959 --> 02:29:35,920
Speaker 2: eighty eight today.

2937
02:29:36,760 --> 02:29:39,680
Speaker 4: I'll be sipping something maybe a little strong when I'm

2938
02:29:39,680 --> 02:29:41,320
Speaker 4: watching that one to make sure I don't lose it.

2939
02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:45,840
Speaker 4: And then Nadiavardi has been Anthony right up there, maybe

2940
02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:48,080
Speaker 4: the cy young leader that people don't know about in

2941
02:29:48,120 --> 02:29:50,800
Speaker 4: the America League. Two point twenty four, Ara point ninety

2942
02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:53,840
Speaker 4: three whips, one run his last twenty innings, five of

2943
02:29:53,920 --> 02:29:56,440
Speaker 4: his last seven games he's not allowed to run. Texas

2944
02:29:56,440 --> 02:29:59,360
Speaker 4: has been the best lineups in baseball. TAJ has been

2945
02:29:59,400 --> 02:30:02,720
Speaker 4: solid three point sixty are eight been solid, decent. I

2946
02:30:02,760 --> 02:30:04,640
Speaker 4: love native vanity to pick. I thought he should have

2947
02:30:04,680 --> 02:30:06,760
Speaker 4: been about a dour forty favorite. That was the game.

2948
02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:08,959
Speaker 4: I was the most off on of my numbers. I

2949
02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:11,120
Speaker 4: love the vanity to pick, and I'll give you four

2950
02:30:11,200 --> 02:30:12,160
Speaker 4: props real quick.

2951
02:30:11,959 --> 02:30:14,280
Speaker 1: Afterw wow man, real quick, real quick.

2952
02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:17,720
Speaker 4: That's Johannobiodo under five and a half k's ninety three

2953
02:30:17,720 --> 02:30:19,720
Speaker 4: this year next fourth hardest team in the league to

2954
02:30:19,720 --> 02:30:22,160
Speaker 4: strike out. Michael Quebec over five and a half k's

2955
02:30:22,200 --> 02:30:24,240
Speaker 4: has gone ten to nine. Ten nine is last four,

2956
02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:27,520
Speaker 4: Andrew Rabbit over four and a half k's ninety strikeouts

2957
02:30:27,520 --> 02:30:30,040
Speaker 4: and fifty four innings. As I said, six's last start,

2958
02:30:30,320 --> 02:30:32,840
Speaker 4: and McKenzie Goer over fifteen and a half outs is

2959
02:30:32,879 --> 02:30:35,080
Speaker 4: eight and four. Even going up against the tough Braized lineup,

2960
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:35,840
Speaker 4: I think we'll get there.

2961
02:30:36,879 --> 02:30:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I yeah, I love it. I do. I love

2962
02:30:40,440 --> 02:30:44,480
Speaker 2: those selections. I love your your pick and the Abbot

2963
02:30:44,720 --> 02:30:48,840
Speaker 2: piece is a I love Abbot today. Yeah, I'm with you,

2964
02:30:49,120 --> 02:30:51,720
Speaker 2: and I like Texas. I think Texas. I think you're

2965
02:30:51,720 --> 02:30:53,080
Speaker 2: spot on with Texas.

2966
02:30:53,600 --> 02:30:56,240
Speaker 1: That's a that's a favorite bed of the day. Yeah,

2967
02:30:56,360 --> 02:30:58,959
Speaker 1: I mean I like Bradley for Tampa.

2968
02:30:59,080 --> 02:31:00,200
Speaker 4: Good. He's good, he's good.

2969
02:31:00,760 --> 02:31:06,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. But you're right that man, that Texas lineup is underrated.

2970
02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:09,760
Speaker 2: They come at you, man. They can hit the ball.

2971
02:31:10,520 --> 02:31:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, they can hit the ball. And Evaldi has been

2972
02:31:12,640 --> 02:31:16,119
Speaker 4: Anthony five Western starts. It's not a lot of run,

2973
02:31:16,760 --> 02:31:19,000
Speaker 4: I mean again. And he's always had good stuff the

2974
02:31:19,120 --> 02:31:21,840
Speaker 4: aall he's always thrown. It's always looks like the hardest

2975
02:31:21,840 --> 02:31:25,120
Speaker 4: throwing baseball. And you know, al he's maybe finally got

2976
02:31:25,120 --> 02:31:27,120
Speaker 4: it all together. And guys have career years. He's in

2977
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:27,720
Speaker 4: the midst of one.

2978
02:31:28,280 --> 02:31:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a big break, great stuff. Good luck today.

2979
02:31:31,800 --> 02:31:34,440
Speaker 2: I hope you're catching tickets, Buddy. I love you.

2980
02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:36,280
Speaker 4: I appreciate you as always are the besketball.

2981
02:31:36,600 --> 02:31:38,560
Speaker 2: We love you too, Buddy, We love you too. Brother.

2982
02:31:39,000 --> 02:31:41,520
Speaker 1: We'll come back and uh and wrap it up.

2983
02:31:41,560 --> 02:31:47,160
Speaker 2: The fellas hanging on a Saturday with you only on

2984
02:31:47,280 --> 02:31:49,039
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

2985
02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:54,560
Speaker 1: Or a bag? What'd you go with?

2986
02:31:55,959 --> 02:32:00,320
Speaker 8: Still undecided? I'm going to order right now. Actually, you're

2987
02:32:00,360 --> 02:32:01,600
Speaker 8: going to order a donut.

2988
02:32:02,240 --> 02:32:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dunkin Donuts. You're gonna go to Dunkin Donuts the doughnut,

2989
02:32:09,160 --> 02:32:14,200
Speaker 2: as he says, Yeah, Well, what is your choice? Doughnut

2990
02:32:14,440 --> 02:32:15,080
Speaker 2: or bagel?

2991
02:32:17,400 --> 02:32:21,600
Speaker 3: Probably donut these days in the In a general sense,

2992
02:32:21,640 --> 02:32:24,320
Speaker 3: i'd say neither. I mean, look, they're they're both about

2993
02:32:24,320 --> 02:32:25,920
Speaker 3: as nutritionally feeling for you.

2994
02:32:25,920 --> 02:32:27,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's just not the same.

2995
02:32:28,920 --> 02:32:31,080
Speaker 3: They both aren't doing much for your waistline, but they

2996
02:32:31,120 --> 02:32:32,160
Speaker 3: do both taste phenomenal.

2997
02:32:32,280 --> 02:32:35,000
Speaker 2: Yes, both are great. Now two facts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now it depends on what kind of bagel we're

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Speaker 3: talking about, Like, are we talking about a standard playing

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02:32:39,160 --> 02:32:40,000
Speaker 3: bagel and everything?

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02:32:40,040 --> 02:32:40,400
Speaker 1: Bagel?

3002
02:32:40,840 --> 02:32:41,280
Speaker 2: Everything?

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Speaker 8: Okay, everything bagel, cream cheese, Philadelphia, I love it.

3004
02:32:47,400 --> 02:32:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't do the cream cheese. No.

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02:32:49,320 --> 02:32:51,320
Speaker 3: Well, then they have like the fancy like bagel sand

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02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:53,520
Speaker 3: with like you make a breakfast sandwich out of a bagel.

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02:32:53,640 --> 02:32:55,080
Speaker 1: They do that thing thing too.

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02:32:55,160 --> 02:32:58,320
Speaker 2: Now, Oh that's yeah, that's big. I don't I don't do. Yeah,

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02:32:58,360 --> 02:33:00,000
Speaker 2: they do the bagel with the cheese.

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Speaker 3: Ease, get some lots in there maybe, you know, yeah,

3011
02:33:03,480 --> 02:33:07,080
Speaker 3: the whole thing. No, not not your speed though, because no,

3012
02:33:07,520 --> 02:33:08,720
Speaker 3: I'm not a breakfast man.

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02:33:08,879 --> 02:33:11,520
Speaker 1: Oh. Just in general, yeah, yeah, I'm not either. To me,

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02:33:11,560 --> 02:33:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm a type breakfast.

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Speaker 3: All if I'm anti breakfast, but I just generally don't

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Speaker 3: eat breakfast. But I like breakfast foods.

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02:33:17,959 --> 02:33:19,959
Speaker 2: But when I I don't like the breakfast foods, that's

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02:33:20,000 --> 02:33:22,760
Speaker 2: my problem. Oh interesting, Okay, I'm not really I'm never

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Speaker 2: hungry in the morning, but the and I know you're

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02:33:26,480 --> 02:33:29,480
Speaker 2: supposed to, but I'm just never really hungry. Breakfast is overrated,

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02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:32,879
Speaker 2: you know. And then with the breakfast foods. And for

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Speaker 2: if you're if you're an anti breakfast person, the world

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02:33:36,600 --> 02:33:37,680
Speaker 2: conspires against you.

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Speaker 1: This is true.

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Speaker 8: I mean, cause are you a starving coffee guy?

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Speaker 1: Am I a watt? You starving coffee?

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02:33:47,320 --> 02:33:48,240
Speaker 2: Starving coffee?

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02:33:48,280 --> 02:33:48,600
Speaker 1: I am?

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02:33:48,680 --> 02:33:50,560
Speaker 3: I'm a guy that I wake up, I drink coffee,

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Speaker 3: and my first meal is usually the back half of

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02:33:53,280 --> 02:33:54,800
Speaker 3: the day, like after two.

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Speaker 2: I'm the same way. Yeah, yeah, I'm this same way.

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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a two guy, like I'm a coffee man,

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02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:12,360
Speaker 2: you know, you know, water and then usually round two. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I feel better when I don't eat breakfast for whatever reason.

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02:34:15,480 --> 02:34:17,680
Speaker 3: So I feel like it bogs me down a little.

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Speaker 1: Well that's that fasting thing.

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02:34:19,200 --> 02:34:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the old the old intermittent fasting.

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02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is kind of what I like to I'm

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02:34:25,160 --> 02:34:27,000
Speaker 2: going doughnut and bagel.

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02:34:27,680 --> 02:34:31,520
Speaker 1: There you go, how about that? You know what, young man?

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02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:31,920
Speaker 2: Do it?

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02:34:31,959 --> 02:34:34,480
Speaker 3: Take advantage of it while you can. Yeah, you be

3044
02:34:34,520 --> 02:34:38,400
Speaker 3: like us exactly there you're looking to go. Is that

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02:34:38,440 --> 02:34:39,280
Speaker 3: bagel worth it?

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02:34:39,680 --> 02:34:39,880
Speaker 1: Right?

3047
02:34:40,480 --> 02:34:40,560
Speaker 8: Like?

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02:34:41,320 --> 02:34:42,720
Speaker 3: You know how many hours have to put on the

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02:34:42,720 --> 02:34:44,560
Speaker 3: elliptical just to get rid of that one bagel?

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02:34:45,160 --> 02:34:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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02:34:46,080 --> 02:34:50,240
Speaker 2: And the bagel, while a nice item, it's not like

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02:34:50,320 --> 02:34:53,320
Speaker 2: they die for, right, it's not worth it.

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02:34:53,320 --> 02:34:55,600
Speaker 3: It's not like a good breakfast burrito or something you know.

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02:34:55,879 --> 02:34:59,800
Speaker 1: Correct, correct or you know something like now I'm not again.

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Speaker 2: You know if there was a slice of pizza, then,

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02:35:04,560 --> 02:35:06,280
Speaker 2: you know, because I could do that for breakfast.

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02:35:06,360 --> 02:35:09,840
Speaker 1: Oh easily. Nothing better than leftover pizza. I love it now.

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02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:12,040
Speaker 1: You you do cold or you heat it up?

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02:35:12,160 --> 02:35:13,959
Speaker 3: It depends on my mood. I can do it, definitely

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02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:17,680
Speaker 3: do it cold. But it depends. It depends on how

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02:35:17,720 --> 02:35:20,360
Speaker 3: badly I want it and how much I'm feeding for it.

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02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:23,320
Speaker 2: Well, I've been feeding for a cheese steak because my

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02:35:23,440 --> 02:35:27,039
Speaker 2: dog ate my dinner the other night. What they ordered out.

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02:35:27,080 --> 02:35:29,520
Speaker 2: I was on a zoom for like three hours. But

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02:35:29,680 --> 02:35:33,560
Speaker 2: they my cheese steak comes, so it was sitting on

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Speaker 2: the table. I go upstairs and gogutate it. That's a

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Speaker 2: violin anyway. That'll do it for us. I have a

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Speaker 2: great day, great week. We love you guys,