WEBVTT - Analyzing 2023 draft options | All Access Podcast 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:04.600 The following is a presentation of the Chicago Bears Network 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:08.640 and Chicago Bears dot Com. Download the Chicago Bears official 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:11.640 mobile app for up to the minute Bears content every 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:16.279 day and now welcome to Bears All Access. You're all 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:21.040 Access passing to Chicago Bears football. Bears All Access is 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:25.040 brought to you by IGS Energy and sponsored by Athletical 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:30.480 Physical Therapy and CDW. Good Wednesday evening, everybody, and welcome 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:33.240 into the program. I'm Jeff Joniac with a broadcast partner 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.760 from news radio one oh five nine WBBM. Mister Tom Bear, 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.360 the Super Bowl Bear, and we're wishing you a pleasant, 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:42.279 good evening. We've got a full show here tonight, just 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.120 the two of us. Jim Miller not able to make 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.559 it tonight prior commitment a time. I think we can 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.120 think we can muster up an hour long show on 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.960 the Bears. Can we do it tonight? Jeff? I heard 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.040 that the Bears have the number one pick in the draft. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.480 Have you do that? Because what it's amazing about this 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.640 is because it's the first experience for us ever being 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.520 around the first pick in the draft. When obviously you 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.080 pay attention to a lot of football shows during this 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.720 time of year and the playoffs and everything, and no 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:10.800 matter what team they want to talk about, the topic 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.640 always starts with the first pick in the draft. And 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.880 now you're starting to see mock drafts out there from 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.640 a lot of different people who are trying to capitalize 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:24.120 on the attention this far in advance. And it's just 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:30.880 amazing because until they walk to the podium, unless some unbelievable, 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:35.039 something unbelievably happens before then Goodell's going to go to 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.680 the podium at at the opening of the draft and 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.119 the Bears are going to be in control of that draft. Yeah, 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.760 it's pretty cool now in the aftermath of what was 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.520 a fourteen lost season, But you do have draft capital here. Yes, 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.920 I think one of the cool things about this year's draft, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:51.520 and I know this has been the last few years, 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.080 if I'm not mistaken, but they have these drafts, similar 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.000 simulators that you can go on some of the different 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.720 platforms and you can punch in, you know, all the scenarios, 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.240 make your draft selections, make trades. So you're getting people 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.200 doing this and putting it out on Twitter, which you're 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:10.280 not on, and you're seeing all the Some people are 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.160 saying trade down more than once, a mass as many 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.919 picks as possible, a mass picks for twenty twenty four 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.680 and twenty twenty five in the first round. Just really, 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.639 it's it's a fun time if you're a football fan, 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.800 because this is fantasy football, and it's fantasy football steroidal 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.400 right now with the draft, because the Bears have such 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.040 draft capital. The name that keeps coming up if they 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.680 were to keep that pick or even turned down most people, 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.679 and it could be fans, it could be the experts. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.880 They're looking at Jailen Carter, the defensive tackle from Georgia 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.480 at number one. Yeah, you know, the thing to me 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.400 is if I look at a player from that position, 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.600 how many effective snaps a game are you giving me? 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.120 Because we've seen guys come through the Bears train of 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.240 defensive tackles and there's been guys that have been able 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.640 to play multiple snap apps per game, and then there's 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.920 been guys that were darn good what we're playing a 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.760 limited amount of snaps per game. So when you're talking 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.079 about a guy like Jalen Carter, the first pick in 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.880 the draft, who's gonna be a defensive game changer four 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:18.079 year staff and for what your philosophical thinking is right now, Um, 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.280 you know I would just you know, analytically, how many 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.320 snaps are you giving? How many effective snaps a game? 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:29.120 Are you giving me? What do you want? Um? I mean, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.040 are you considering him a pass rusher? Are you considering 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.040 him a first and down offensive our defensive lineman to 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.520 stop the run? You know you've better give me, you know, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.440 thirty eight snaps a game of impressive football play. If 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.880 you can give me that, then you are you are 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.120 a game changer in a scheme changer. All right, Let's 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.920 let's break it down a little bit. Because in twenty 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.000 twenty as a freshman, played ten games two hundred eighty 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:58.080 seven snaps. Is a sophomore in twenty twenty one played 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.520 in all fifteen games three hundred ninety six snaps, and 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.880 then this past season ten games because he missed five 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.800 with an MCO three hundred eight snaps. He had eighteen tackles, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.400 He had a twenty five total pressures, five quarterback hits, 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.640 and three sacks. So this is what you're talking about, 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.600 because at Georgia, even on the offense side of that, 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.520 they rotate in a lot of guys, right, you know, 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.200 but two is you know, is he the type of 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.240 guy that every time they break the huddle defensively speaking 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:30.080 for the Bears, and are they as the offensive line 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.360 and the protection gonna be, you know, concentrating everything on 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.080 making sure identify where he is. Does he line up 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.239 on one spot? Does he like to pick and choose? 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.840 Does he like to pick on the worst pass protector 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.840 on you know, the opponent's offensive line. So you know, 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.039 you play against guys like that during the course of 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.320 your career that because of the protection, the direction you 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.560 want to go, you got to locate him and then 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.360 you got to make some calls go into the line 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.359 of scrimmage. Well, you look at his length and his 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.000 size and the space that he eats. He's got to 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.040 lead quickness and agility and a really good get off 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.320 at the line of scrimmage. And you're thinking about Matt 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.840 Eberflus's defense and Alan Williams and what kind of size 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.040 that they had in Indianapolis at the inside position. Obviously 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:15.120 three technique is the critical aspect of things. But you know, 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.000 you get a defensive lineman from the interior like that, 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.480 and as a guard to yourself, you know what that means. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.479 That's a quick quicker steps to the quarterback from the 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.520 interior position, which can collapse and force the quarterback to 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.440 move to either side and get your ends to take 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.920 care of business. It'll be interesting to see where they 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.000 go here and what kind of player, because they need 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.599 both inside and they need edge rushers. You know what else, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.680 if you take a guy on the interior like that 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.880 and he's great, every snap he goes with the line 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.799 of scrimmage, every time, they know what hand the center 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.240 is gonna snap the ball with. Now, if you've got 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.480 a center that's thinking about, wow, i gotta get this 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.640 snap up quick because the defensive lineman's gonna be into 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.120 me so fast I'm not gonna have any power. Then 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:56.480 the next thing you know, I'm gonna be in the 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.360 lap of the quarterback. So two is you know when 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.160 you have a guy like that, and how much if 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.800 he affects multiple thinking in if he's a great player 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.080 from the offensive coordinator to the center, the center, quarterback, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.240 exchange to the quarterback, how much time he has and 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.240 then the direction of the protection that they've called in 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.880 the huddle. Well, you know, we played Kansas City a 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.040 couple of years ago, so him in preseason obviously not 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.800 the same analysis, but watching Chris Jones play and moving 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.560 him on the outside, the way he angles and attacks 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:31.400 the guard position, I want somebody like that certainly to 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.280 be as disruptive as possible. Even if he's not getting home, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.600 he's causing a lot of problems for your offer, right. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.240 And you know you have Clark and green Bay also, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.359 who's a heck of a defensive tackle. And he's a 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.960 guy that single handedly can slow down the running game 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:50.120 from the inside shoulder of each offensive guard. And when 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:54.360 you can take up and command that much space, your linebackers, 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.320 your defensive ends, everybody's gonna play better because of it. 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.200 And I know there's a lot of emphasis on the 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:04.159 role of the three technique defensive tackle in this type 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:08.360 of scheme, but you have a guy that's overwhelmingly dominating 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.239 over the center position that makes your three technique tackle 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.040 even better. So, non playoff teams like the Bears, they've 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:17.880 been in the bunker. They've been in the bunker already 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.600 after that end of season news conference. Ryan Bowles and 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.560 his crew are in it now looking at free agency, 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.280 getting ready for the draft. You got the scouts at 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.760 the All Star Games, the free agent plan being formulated, 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.640 and you watch conference playoff games this weekend, so you 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.840 get a head start. But you'd rather be in those 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:38.080 games San Francisco at Philly, Kansas City hosting Cincinnati. You'd 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.200 rather be doing playoff prep today rather than roster prep. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.400 But this is the hand you're dealt, and the Bears 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:47.240 are in a prime position to really do some damage. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.600 And I can't wait to see it all unfold. It's 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.200 not all gonna happen at once. We keep touching on 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.480 that it's not all gonna but this this should be 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.720 a markedly improved roster in twenty twenty three. Well, you know, 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.680 you gotta look at the two teams in the NFC. 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.920 You know, the San Francisco in Philly, the Bears beat 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:05.880 the San Francisco forty nine ers, and I know that 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.040 they were starting an inexperienced quarterback in a deluge of 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.040 a rainstorm that day, but the Bears were still able 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:13.840 to do And then they took it right down to 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.840 the fourth quarter when they played the Philadelphia Eagles. So 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.800 there's somewhere that you've got to start convincing yourself you're 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.520 not a law You're not a long way away from 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.200 where these teams are when you look at what you're 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.160 able to do, and then you think about the San 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:31.280 Francisco forty nine ers, are they the and I don't 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.000 mean any disrespect the Trey Lance, but are these guys 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:38.439 the luckiest team in the NFL? Because they convinced themselves 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.120 that Trey Lance was the starting quarterback at the beginning 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.080 of the year so much that they ignored Jimmy Garoppolo. 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.680 And then immediately when Trey Lance was injured, Jimmy came 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.040 in as the savior and then they were injured. And 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.400 now because and I hate that term that because I 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:59.160 think it's disrespectful when you say, mister irrelevant. It's just 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.079 that Brock, he happens to be the last player allowed 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.000 to be picked in the draft. And you see how 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.920 great of a player he's become. They had not that 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.920 he's become. How great of a player that he is. Oh, 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.439 he's efficient, He's just efficient, and he knows what he's doing. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.400 He can read the field, and uh, he believes in himself. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.120 That's first and foremost. He's not out there scared at 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.480 one bit the poise of this quarterback. And I know 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.440 things like this aggravate you they the Trey lance probably 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.160 aggravates you, but but he did get hurt as the season, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:33.240 you know. And then the New York Jets quarterback boy 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.800 Zachy Trey getting injured as part of the game. But 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.480 the whole Zach Wilson thing where you know, you've been 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.360 scouted and they've had spent hundreds of thousands and dollars 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.520 and determined that he's the number two pick and all 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.240 the NFL draft and they never paid any attention to party. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.200 I you know, well, you know, and this is the 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.880 problem with quarterbacks many This why some are gonna drive 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.960 up in this draft, you would think, because there doesn't 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.680 seem to be a star studded list, but I think 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.960 some will. Somebody's gonna fall in love with somebody and 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.720 that happens. It's it's like a beautiful woman, big Tom. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.360 You know that the quarterback position you just and you 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:13.959 know how many times you've been in love. You're a 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.000 little heartbreaker, all right, Tom? There? Jeff Jonah Yack here 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.120 on Bears All Access. Thanks to our producer Tonight, Adam 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.720 Stezinski in the score studios, Dan Brilli and Jordan Treadop 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.880 helping us out as well. We'll take our first break. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.240 This is Bears All Access, brought to you by IGS 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:35.920 Energy on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. Welcome 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.040 back everybody to Bears All Access. We're brought to you 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.600 by IGS Energy. Choose clean energy for your home at 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.200 IGS dot com because every good choice adds up to 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.800 a better world. Jeff and Tom with you tonight. It's 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.080 a no guest night. It's just us for the whole hour, 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.400 So welcome back and thanks for listening tonight on a 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.880 snowy Wednesday, I'm many inches you get over there and 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.199 Juliet big time, ah about five? Yeah, you shovel or 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.679 did you let it? Just gonna let him melt? Shoveled 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.280 and you know, pitched into some neighbors houses around the block, 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.080 and uh, you know that's what we do here. You 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:10.000 are America's good guy. You are helping helping everybody in 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.280 your in your great town of Julie. I love that. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.480 I Unfortunately didn't get my Sarry rear Wren out there 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.079 to do even the sidewalk, so I need to get 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.319 on that though, that's for sure. But a little more 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.760 snow coming on the weekend when we'll be camped out 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.040 watching conference playoff games, and I wanted to talk about 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.280 this and take you down memory lane a little bit 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.360 because your conference final games, obviously the very first one 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.800 you were in, you guys made the made the big game, 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.400 big game win over the Rams. You shut them out. 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:45.760 January twelfth, nineteen eighty six. After at twenty one, nothing 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.800 went over the Giants. You go up ten zip. Then 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.840 Willie Golf got a twenty two yard touchdown from Jim McMahon. 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.839 And by the way, congratulations Jim mcmanhy's a new grandpa. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:12:00.640 Did you see that. Yeah, his youngest son, Zach had 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.280 a baby. Yeah. His ex wife Nancy sent me some pictures. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.040 You know. So that's your version of social media, is 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.720 the ex wives sending you pictures. Because I saw it 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.480 on Twitter and it looks Jim McMahon holding that baby. 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.920 That was beautiful. I love see. I grew up really 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.080 close to those guys when we all played for the Bear, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:19.800 so I spent a lot of time with all of 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.400 his kids, and I still have a great friendship with 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.719 all of them. But anyway, so let's go back and 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.280 talk about that, because you guys clearly dominated that game. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.760 It was It was a complete and the score may 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.120 have only been twenty four nothing, but that was complete 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.160 dominance against the La Rams. What do you remember about 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.600 the preparation for that game? And in the end result 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.680 obviously was a beauty wilbur finished it off in the 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.000 snow and a fifty two yard fumble returned touchdown. You 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:46.960 know what, you know what was their point of ehesus 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.640 offensively speaking, And that's kind of what your challenge is 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.040 on our side of the ball. So you think if 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.160 you have Eric Dickerson on one side and he got 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.439 Walter Payton on the other, So now it's our Our 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.640 goal is to make sure that we make sure the 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.080 running game is as important as it's been up until 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.319 that point in the season. And that's first and foremost. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.840 The role of the offense is to have a time 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.120 consumption offense that gets a lot of rushing yards and 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:18.280 then as complimented by the passing game and then McMahon 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.440 calling some audibles. I think I think he might have 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.880 audible and a lot of scrimmage and ran in for 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:27.720 a touchdown too. So you know, back in those days, 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:31.760 it was probably more boring preparation because we are going 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:36.280 over the exact same running plays that we inserted day 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:40.160 one of the season and it was down to playoff time. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.760 Oh you guys ran at thirty three for ninety one yards, 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.680 So it wasn't that's awful. Yeah, I'm just telling you 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:51.280 what happened. Yeah, what were you expecting against that Rams defense? 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.880 You know, I was hoping that we would have, you know, 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.520 in the high one hundreds in terms of rushing. But 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.960 thirty three carries, that's just a time can assuming right? 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.120 You guys own the clock you had. You had about 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.679 a ten minute advantage on the clock. And I love 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.000 just going back because I wanted to know, like the 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:12.440 story behind the story here in that game. But the 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.560 defense shut them down. I mean, they did run for 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.920 eighty six yards, but would he do sixty six passing 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.920 yards on ten completions in that game for dieter Brock. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.680 Tell me a story about the dieter Brock experience. Dieter 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.720 Brock was just a little guy who was using an 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.920 offense that Eric Dickerson was their key to success. And 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.040 if you go back and you look at their other 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.400 play you know, the outskirt players and the receivers and 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.640 the tight ends, there wasn't any you know, guys, you 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.480 know all pros. I don't think of the team at 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.360 that point, and Dieter had no escapability. There was no 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.520 way that he was going to run away from the 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.280 defensive pressure that Buddy Ryan was gonna put on him. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.120 But I think it was always it might have been 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.240 a fourth and one where they were going to run 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.560 the ball with Eric Dickerson and my Singletary met him 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.600 directly in the whole. It could have had a third one. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.920 I thought it was a fourth and one though, because 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.640 it was a play that they still play on all 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:13.000 the marquee plays of a middle linebacker making a big 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:17.560 play against a big player, and yeah Singletary against Eric Dickerson, 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.680 it was just a great play, right, and Les Fraser 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.440 had an interception in that one. And he is a 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.880 coaching candidate again, should he so get some interviews now 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.920 that the Bills are out, and at sixty three, still 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.840 would like to see him get another crack at it. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.600 So let's now take it to nineteen eighty eight. That 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.840 one didn't go so well. Obviously you lost to the 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.680 forty nine ers Montana de Rice twice. John Frank, who 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.840 I believe now is as a dentist, Is that right, 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.400 doctor okay, third quarter he scored a touchdown. It was 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:52.040 zero winschill twenty degrees and I remember being in the 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.760 locker room covering that after and guys were still cold. 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.440 But it wasn't It didn't go well, Big Tom, What 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.960 do you remember about the preparation for that taking on 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.960 that Bill Walsh led San Francisco forty nine, getting suckered 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.880 into the pregame hype that just because that they were 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.280 coming to Soldier Field and the conditions were going to 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.440 be so awful, that they were coming into bare weather, 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.120 and it was almost like they were just going to 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.360 come in here, lay down, and we are going to 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.200 beat them like we had the success during the course 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.000 of the season, then go on to the Super Bowl. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:31.160 That was our plan. Unfortunately, San Francisco they didn't cooperate 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.640 because they had a great team, they had a great coach, 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.200 they had explosiveness, they had a great defense. You know, 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.440 earlier in the year we played them on Monday Night 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.400 football at Soldier Field and we only beat him ten 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:49.080 to nine. So it wasn't like we were rolling into 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:53.320 that conference championship game flying high because we you know, 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.640 we beat them earlier in the year and that was 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.560 probably one of the more physical games that I played 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.800 in in my career. That that ten to nine game. Well, 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:07.800 they had some pro bowlers there, remember Michael Carter. Oh yeah, medalist, 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:12.080 silver medalist, and the Olympics first shot put Charles Haley 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.439 at outside linebacker. Saw what he was at the NFC 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.679 Divisional game last weekend and uh, looking good. He had 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.440 eleven and a half sacks that year. I remember defensive 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.640 end by named Larry Roberts. Oh, yeah, of course, Yeah, 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.240 you remember all these guys. Yeah, do you remember anything 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:34.800 about your own preparation for these conference championships? Um, you 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.560 know two different times, you know, at this at the beginning, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:39.480 at the first year that I was with the Bears, 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.840 that we were getting ready for the NFC championship game, 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.240 I was kind of following in the jet dust of 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.439 what these guys have already started in nineteen eighty four, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.200 and I was just trying to hang on and keep 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:55.639 up and contribute, which was expected of me because of 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.639 what happened in eighty four. And I became just familiar 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.760 with you know, the ID home and everything, and you 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.360 know how determined these guys were when they did get 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.919 beat by San Francisco to come back and have a 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.560 big year. And so that was my experience in that 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.640 round of the playoffs. And then, like I said, we 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.280 kind of got suckered into thinking that we are going 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.040 to win the game against San Francisco the second time around, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.680 because we did beat him in a physical game during 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.560 the course of the year, but weather and conditions and 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.239 everything kind of you know, we were sold on the 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:29.960 fact that they were going to come in and collapse 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.800 because of the temperature. And your group did not go 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.080 back to another conference championship game and not another one 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.840 for the Bears until the two thousand and six conference 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.600 championship win over the New Orleans Saints at Soldier Field. 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:43.840 I'm sure it's still aggravates you to this day. In 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.119 any game I've ever played at in my entire career, 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.560 losing that NFC championship game at home again to San 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.080 Francisco forty nine ers is the one that's left the 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.480 most indelible mark of any game. And listen, I lost 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:02.240 four times against US in college. I got beat in 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.639 the Sugar Bowl for the National Championship game, I got 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.199 beat in the USFL Championship game. I've been beat in 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.920 games that I know the impact and how much they 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.920 mean to a team, But losing that San Francisco game 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.480 that haunts me worse than any game I've ever been around. 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:23.320 Who beat you in the USFL championship game Philadelphia Stars 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.200 O N Jim Morris senior Calvin Bryant was a great 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:31.320 running back. Might have been Chuck Fusina the quarterback. There's 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:35.960 interesting USFL getting started up again in April. I believe, yes, 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.440 it is all right. We're gonna take another break down there. 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.359 Jeff Joni here on Bears All Access will take a 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.920 look at it's some of the interesting nuggets about what's 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.720 going on in the league in terms of coaches, who's 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:49.880 going where. We'll touch on some of the all star 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.400 games and look at some of the awards that will 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.520 be given out on February ninth, including Coach of the 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.359 Year finalists and MVP finalists. This is Bears All Access. 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.359 It's brought to you by IGSN Gian Chicago Sports Radio 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:10.560 six seventy the Score. Yes, this segment of Bears All 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:13.240 Access was brought to you by Athletico Physical Therapy. Visit 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.480 Athletico dot com to requested employment in clinic or virtually 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.360 and start feeling better tomorrow. Jeff Joni act Tom there 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.960 here on Bears All Access. Adam Stadzinski is our producer 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:27.040 tonight in the score Studios. Appreciate you being alongside Tom. 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.960 I was watching and digging into some of this draft 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:32.920 coverage now, just getting ready the initial stages of getting 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.959 ready for what is a lot of research for the 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:40.720 next several weeks and months before the draft. And one 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:44.159 of the best ones is the job that Dane Brogler 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.160 of the Athletic puts together. It's called the Beast. It's 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.640 so it's so much information. I don't know how one 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.560 man could put that all together, but it was just 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.680 looking at you know what some of the top picks 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:58.640 are going to be put. Edge rusher is the top 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.520 position in this year's class as of right now, and 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.840 a difficult position to kind of rank in terms because 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:10.080