1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas, and 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: we're doing two episodes here where we're going to talk 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: about extreme prehistoric mammals. I think everyone here and it 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: already knows vaguely what I'm talking about, talking about the 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: creatures that came post dinosaur, that we're that we're just 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: as weird and crazy and varied as dinosaurs, except they were, 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: of course mammals. They were the prehistoric mammals, the forerunners 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: in many cases of what we have today, just earlier models, 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: more outrageous models, gigantic models, tiny models, models with features 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: that we either don't see today at all or we 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: see just a shadow of them. And when I was 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: a kid, I remember spending a lot of time in 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: dinosaur books, of course, because I you know, I love 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: dinosaurs like most kids, and jumped into them. And some 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: of the books that I had, including the excellent McMillian 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Illustrated Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs and Prehistoric Animals by Dixon, Cox, 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 1: Savage and Gardener. Uh, this was one of my favorite books, 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: and half of it is dinosaurs. Like the first half 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: is dinosaurs with all the beautiful illustrations of them and 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: how we think they might have looked. And in the 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: second half is all mammals and the with the dinosaurs. 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: You know, dinosaurs were great, Dinosaurs were awesome, but there 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: was more of this division. Like when you took in 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: the story of the dinosaur, you knew that something something 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: horrible happens, something catacause MC happened, and the age of 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: the dinosaurs vanished completely, and that now there's really nothing 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: like these creatures roaming the earth. I mean, yes, there are. 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: We still have crocodiles now we see to sendence of them, 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: and we see some some things that are that that 32 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: remind us more of the world of dinosaurs than others. 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: But but when you look at the the extreme prehistoric mammals, 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: when you look at things like the giant sloth, uh 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: like the creatures we're going to discuss these two episodes, 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: it's weirder because they're closer to what we have now, 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: but just as alien. Well because they are extreme mammals. 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: And we'll talk a little bit more about what is 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: extreme and what's normal, but they really do sort of 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: boggle the mind. Right, it's a wonderland of creatures that 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: you just don't normally um see out there in literature 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: in the media, right because Dinosourci always taking top billing. 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: But we're kind of we're taking the bones today of 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: all these really incredible creatures, dusting them off, and we're 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna look at the oddest parts of them, what makes 46 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: them unique. We're going all prehistoric packing arm today. Now 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: you should probably mention of what sparked this. Well, we 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: both have seen the exhibit Extreme Mammals. We saw it 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: at the firm Bank Museum here in Atlanta, but it 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: is organized by the American Museum of Natural History, and 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: it has some amazing examples of of these extreme mammals 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: that we'll talk about before we get into that. Though, 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: I thought it would probably be good for us to 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: call over extinction mass extinction, uh, specifically because it's kind 55 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: of plays into this idea of of why these seems 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: so exotic and far removed from us. But the fact 57 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: of the matter is that extinction is just not a 58 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: modern phenomenon. In fact, all mammals and other species that 59 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: have ever lived are extinct. Yeah, and which is which 60 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: really drives, and it begins to drive home when you 61 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: start looking through one of these books and you're and 62 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: you realize, oh, well, there were like pages and pages 63 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: of different types of prehistoric horse that that we just 64 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: that are no longer with us, just completely gone. You know, 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: I was thinking that, particularly as a kid, if you're 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: flipping through that, that's gonna be really hard to get 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: a hold on reality, because even when four year old 68 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: will say, Okay, I get dinosaurs, and I get this 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: creature once lived, but but what about a mermaid really 70 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: that could live? Right, especially when you say something like 71 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: well the easter bunny, Sure that's that's totally for real. 72 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: But but yeah, I mean you look pat back at 73 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: this past which is just amazing, just riddled with these So, 74 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: starting about one thousand years ago, large mammals and other 75 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: species began to disappear a lot more swiftly than normal 76 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: as humans began to spread from Africa and other continents. 77 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: Then the extension rate sped up beginning about twelve thousand 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: years ago, and it continues to accelerate today. There were 79 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: astonishing mammals that roamed North America until about twelve thousand 80 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: years ago. There were beavers the size of grizzly bears, 81 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: giant beaver. Yeah, and short faced bears that stood at 82 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: about eleven feet tall or three point four meters high. 83 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean, this was amazing. So besides over hunting by human, 84 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: scientists have proposed several different theories as to why this happened. 85 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: Climate change, killer plagues, a comment, right impact, or atmospheric explosion. Now, 86 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is it's probably a bit of 87 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: a combination of all of these factors. So it's not 88 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: just humans. But you know, if you've if you've got 89 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: a comment that is hurling towards the earth, that obviously 90 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: is going to take out a big amount of the population. 91 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: And probably most famously, as you have already mentioned, uh, 92 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: sixty five million years ago, dinosaurs they disappeared in a flash, 93 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: and it's thought to be that there could have been 94 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: a comment and then some atmosphere changes that followed that 95 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: wipe them out. Yeah, And it's these environmental changes some 96 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: of these theories, to me, you're the most interesting because 97 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: you're you're looking as always you're looking at organisms responding 98 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: to the environment, organisms responding to to where they can 99 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: get resources, how they can can best take take them 100 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: in and these forms evolving over time to exploit them. 101 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: So you with with mammals, you see their maximum diversity 102 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: about fifteen million years ago, during the Miocene epoch twenty 103 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: three point oh three to five point three million years ago. 104 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: It is a time of warmer global climates than those 105 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: in proceeding or following periods. Now, since then, global climates 106 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: have deteriorated and the tropical regions have shrunk, and tropical regions, 107 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: of course, that's where you see the most diversity even today, 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: like these are. If you were to use some sort 109 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: of like business model, I guess it would be like 110 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: the capitalist wonderland of the rainforest is where all the 111 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: crazy forms can just run wild and and go nuts. 112 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: But then also the alternating cold and warm periods brought 113 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: on by the ice ages encourage the evolution of particularly 114 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: large mammals such as the wooly mammoth, giant deer, giant 115 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: ground sloths, and as you said, now they're all gone 116 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: over the last twelve thousand years. Yeah, and uh. In 117 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: order to really talk about mammals, we should probably discuss 118 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: what makes them uniquely mammals or mammalian river dolphin mammal, Right, 119 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: spiny ant eater mammal, that mammal, platypus mammal. What do 120 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: they all have in common? Well, they all got the milk. 121 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: They have the milk. They're all vertebrates, they're all warm blooded, 122 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: they all have hair on their bodies, and they all 123 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: produce milk to feed their babies with. Yeah, and these 124 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: are all excellent design feature because the memory glance. This 125 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: allows a mother to leave her offspring in the nest, 126 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: go out and forwards, then come back and pump them 127 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: full of supernutritious milk. The dense fur helps them retain heat, 128 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: which is an important design feature because they're warm blooded, 129 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: and that in warm bloodedness keeps them running at above 130 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: environmental temperatures, so they can remain active for long periods 131 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: regardless of the weather. The trade off, of course, is 132 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: that they have to eat a lot to pay the 133 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: body's high energy bills. Uh. And also you also see 134 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: with mammals they tend to have large complex brains because 135 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: they have to control an advanced nervous system and rapidly 136 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: processed sense data. Yeah and um. Some placental mammals can 137 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: nourish their growing babies in side their bodies for as 138 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: long as two years now. That's really important because that 139 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: means that their offspring are born more fully developed then 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: more stupial babies or ones that hatch from an egg. Um. 141 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: This is really cool. Whales and drafts, they're just born 142 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: with their eyes open, ready to go. Yeah, I love 143 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen a love birth 144 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: of a draft, but it is amazing to see because 145 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: within like tent poles being born. Yeah, it's like a 146 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: tent being popped up, and they're a little bit wobbly 147 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: at first, but it is. It's because in an environment, 148 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: especially if you were a prey creature out there in 149 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: the grasslands, you gotta you gotta be ready to go. 150 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: You gotta be ready to just pop up and run 151 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: with the rest of them. There's no just lounging around 152 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: the din all day until you finally reached the point where, 153 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: you you know, go out and get that job right 154 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: where the rubber meets the road. So what makes something 155 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: extreme because it's kind of hard to say, like, oh, 156 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: that's that's an crazy horn because within certain groups, maybe 157 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: all of them have this type of horn on their heads, 158 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: but maybe one is just you know, four times larger 159 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: than the next, well, I mean extreme again we have distress. 160 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: Of course, we're talking about our standpoint, our bow point, 161 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: because today the idea of tiny little horses is is 162 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: kind of silly and ridiculous, but there was a time 163 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: when that was the model so well. And so you 164 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: really do have to look within the group though to 165 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: determine what is extreme, because you know each animal is 166 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: going to have just normal traits, just like we do. 167 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: We're we're an example at both normal and extreme traits. Uh, 168 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: And I'll get to that. But a kangaroo is a 169 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: good example. It's marsupial and uh. While some of the 170 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: smaller shrew like marsupials that do hop um, kangaroos are 171 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: extreme because they're the only large bipedal mammal that have 172 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: that pego stick kind of locomotion, and fossil evidence actually 173 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: dating back to million years ago indicates that their ancestors. 174 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: Kangaroo's ancestors did not hop so most likely when rainforest 175 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: gave way to dry grassy planes, hopping became something that 176 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: was selected for right because you wanted to get across 177 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible, and that is what makes kangaroos extreme. 178 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting because you see the same thing in video games. 179 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes they'll give you the ability to make your character jump, which, 180 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: if you were going to play it completely straight, your 181 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: character would walk or run across the level, he would 182 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: not jump like a kangaroo. But the design feature will 183 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: often be such that there's no there's no additional cost 184 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: to jumping, so the player who's just focusing on getting 185 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: through the level might just jump ridiculously. That's probably a 186 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: also a ridiculous tie in to make here, but I 187 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's a good visual there. Um. So 188 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: I had mentioned that humans are extreme, um, and that 189 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: comes in the form of our bipedalism and as you mentioned, 190 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: big brains before relative to our body size. You know 191 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: everything else warm blooded, differentiated teeth, five fingers, and toes 192 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: pretty normal, right. You look at at all sorts of 193 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: species across nature and you see the same thing. Right. Well, 194 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: we're also many of us relatively hairless. And of course 195 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: that's a whole side issue that we've discussed before in 196 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: the podcast. Yes, and it doesn't have to do with 197 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: a quad gates, although that would be really cool if 198 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: it did. Yes, all right, so we're gonna take a 199 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: break and when we come back, We're going to begin 200 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: a ten part countdown of our favorite extreme mammals. We're gonna, 201 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, start with the smallest and work up to 202 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: the biggest on our list. So we're gonna knock some 203 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: of these out on this episode and the rest will 204 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: knock out on the following episode. And I am going 205 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: to try to have a gallery up as well, so 206 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: that as you go through this, we're going to describe 207 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: these creatures, but you're gonna naturally want to see them 208 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: as well, So I'll try to make sure that we 209 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: have a gallery that you can you can listen to 210 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: the podcast and go through that as well and actually 211 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: look these things in the face. All Right, we're back, 212 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: and we are going to talk about the tiniest, geniest 213 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: mammal to have ever existed. We're talking about one and 214 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: a half inches long. Yes, this thing is amazingly small, 215 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: and uh, his name is bad and annoys, and uh, 216 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: this guy was very small. We're talking zero point zero 217 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: three three two point zero sixty four ounces um with 218 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: more likely we're looking at like one point three grams 219 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: as the general weight of these guys. And they lived 220 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: about fifty million years ago in what is now wyoming. Yeah, 221 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: and uh, the smallest, just so you can have something 222 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: compared against the smallest mammal alive today is the bumblebee back, 223 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: which is only slightly larger. Uh. This, uh, this little 224 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: creature here is thought to be a relative of the shrew. 225 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: And I love it. If you have cats, then you've 226 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: met these or pieces of these things. Yes, I love this. 227 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: Paleontologist Jonathan Block was just looking at some material underneath 228 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: a microscope when he spotted a tiny, tinyy fossil jaw 229 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: and then realized that he was looking at teeth, and 230 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: this is how it was discovered. Yeah, this guy is 231 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: crazy small and just and and and adorable. I mean, 232 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: that is something that's small. You can't help it find 233 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: a little adorable, even if it's kind of shrew like, 234 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: and shrews are kind of ghastly in a way. Yeah, 235 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: But to think that it could sit there and run 236 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: up your the tip of your pencil and hang out, 237 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: that's how small we're talking. Would we could crawl up 238 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: to the tip of your pencil and uh and just 239 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: sat there. It weighed as little as a dollar bill. 240 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: I feel like it would be a great writing companion, right, 241 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: mused if you will. But like a lot of these forms, 242 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: this this, this one one extinct. You won't find these 243 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: guys anymore. Um. And really a way to think about 244 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: a lot of these forms is think of like the 245 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: most specialized business imaginable. Say like during a boom time, 246 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: say during say that the dot com boom, you'll have 247 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: like a very specialized website that comes out. It's it's 248 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: trying to make money off of off of the boom. 249 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: And then when they stuff dot com No, no, we 250 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: we've we've survived. I'm kidding were I mean, we are 251 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: specialized in the information realm. Yeah, but we don't think 252 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: of any kind of like specialized, uh you know particular, 253 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: say like a bakery, a bakery that only specialized in 254 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: meat flavor donuts. Well, great, you're gonna clean up as 255 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: long as bacon flavored donuts are the thing. While those 256 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: are in style, you're just it's gonna be hand over 257 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: a fist. But when that goes out of style, well 258 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: then you're gonna you're gonna either have to evolve into 259 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: a different form or you're going to perish. And so 260 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: you see that with a lot of the creatures we're 261 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: going to talk about in this for a for a 262 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: period of time, that was an excellent design. But when 263 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: the environment changed, when the resources changed, when the get, 264 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: when the basic game changed, then uh, then that form 265 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: had to vanish. If this was alive today, do you 266 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: think that it would have, um, you know, pretty high 267 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: internet status if it could sneeze? Yeah, yeah, it could sneeze. 268 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: Anything always always helps. Yeah. Um. The next item on 269 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: our list is the horn to go for. And I 270 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: couldn't help but think about Calibus from Clash of the Titans. 271 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: You know, you know, the horned beast man with the whip. 272 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: Of course, fabulously I brought to life Ray Harry Howson, 273 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: who's sadly passed away this week. But but but yeah, yeah, 274 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: I can see this is this is kind of the 275 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: rodent version of that character. Uh. The rodent we're talking 276 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: about the hornet gopher is epic Gallus. Uh. He was 277 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: one ft long thirty centimeters lived in North America. Probably 278 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: resembled a modern marmot, except he has long, powerful claws 279 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: on the front feet and horns a pair of almost 280 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: rhino like horns that are sort of rising up from 281 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: the top of its snout. And and and I mean 282 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: you see these in the skulls that they have, that 283 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: they've detected these things. I mean, it's it's it's very 284 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: obviously a pair of horns. Yeah, and it's a bit 285 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: of a mystery as to what they were used for, 286 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: probably digging. Some people have said maybe it's a mating display, 287 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: but the fact that both genders have the horn would 288 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: seem really unlikely because it doesn't indicate like, I'm a 289 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: male with high reproductive fitness come over here, so you know. 290 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: Another clue is that they have really small eyes, which 291 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: would indicate the possibility of poor eyesight. So most likely 292 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: they're just we're, you know, hanging out, burrowing, digging a lot. Yeah, 293 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: of course, with any of these things, you're going to 294 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: find the various people have have the varying theories again 295 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: that it's intra species combat, it's the sexual display, that 296 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: it's defense, but yeah, they're the burrowing things. Seems to 297 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: make the most sense sance this, This would have been 298 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: a burrowing animal. It would be amazing to come upon, 299 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean because it really those those horns are just 300 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: so unexpected, and I think that's probably what's so amazing 301 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: to us humans is because we are used to our 302 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: regular run of the Milico first. But it's probably just 303 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: as simple as you know. Here in the United States 304 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: in the Southeast, I could care less about squirrels or 305 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: they're taking over my yard. But maybe another person in 306 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: another world might think that they're quite excited. I've I've heard, 307 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, accounts of people who who visit, say Atlanta, 308 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: and they have they've lived most of their lives in 309 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: a place that does not have squirrels. They come here 310 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: and it's amazing. They're like, oh my good us look 311 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: at these amazing creatures. And we're just like, yeah, those 312 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: are those are tree rats. That's that's what. But epigallis 313 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: a lot of fun because it's kind of like a 314 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: devil rat. Uh. And it also you can't help but 315 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: be reminded a bit of the jackalope, which of course 316 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: is a is a false creature created through taxidermy that 317 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: has like the head of a jack rabbit with antlers um, 318 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: which is a ridiculous, ridiculous thing to see on a 319 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: wall somewhere. But in this example of the epic Galius, 320 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: we see something just as crazy. Now, the next example 321 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: that we have on our list is a tiny horse. 322 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: It's called hieroch ethereum the dawn horse horsey a w N. Yes, 323 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: and it called the dawn horse because this is basically 324 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: the earliest known equit ancestor of all horses. Uh, but 325 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: rather peculiar. Would you would might not instantly recognize it 326 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: as a horse, or if you saw it today, you 327 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: might think that there was something weird going on in 328 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: your brain, like you're having a little acution episode. But 329 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: first and foremost, this tiny horse was eight inches tall 330 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: at the shoulder or twenty cimeters. Extremely tiny. This this 331 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: is just like completely out of scale with what we 332 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 1: think of as a modern horse. It's true, And I 333 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: think about it as like, oh, this is something that 334 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: I think a Russian billionaire would try to pray resurrect, right, 335 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: like for what are we gonna do with the wooly mammoth? 336 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: But if you could clone eight inch horses, yeah, and 337 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: start selling those, my goodness, Russian billionaire's daughters all over there. 338 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Who wants a pony when you can have an eight 339 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: inch horse and a stable of them? Yeah, you could 340 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: be in your apartment in New York. You know, you're right, 341 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: this is perfect for the apartment dweller. Um. Now, they 342 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 1: were a bit different from horses in other regards as well. 343 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: For instance, they had four toes in the front and 344 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: three in the back, so they ended up having large, 345 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: unhorselike feet. It's true. Um so when you think about 346 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 1: a horse, you think about that powerful toe with a hoof, right, 347 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: it's just not a footpad, and these guys has had 348 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: more le footpads for trying to navigate the terrain. You know. 349 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: They also lived fifty million years ago during the early 350 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: part of the Tertiary period, and they were a pretty 351 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: wide spread throughout Europe and Asia exactly, So I mean 352 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: you'd have to go back pretty far to be able 353 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: to check these guys out. And they were probably pretty 354 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: bright because they think they had rather large and complex brains, 355 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: so they were probably very alert, you know, constantly on 356 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: the watch because they're tiny horses. And while we think 357 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: they're adorable, we would think they're adorable, the actual creatures 358 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: they had to share the world with probably thought they 359 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: looked delicious probably and uh, speaking of deliciousness, they were vegetarians, 360 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: so they weren't going after any meat themselves. They're having 361 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: more complai, I would hope so, because it would have 362 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: really put a dark twist on this if we finally 363 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: revealed that they were carnivores, but of course they're not. 364 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: They're they're vegetaries. Well now I'm just imagining and look, 365 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, this eight inch horse like hanging off the 366 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: neck of a giant creature trying to take it down. 367 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: But they had a more complete series of teeth than 368 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: modern horses, which were used to feed on those soft, leavy, 369 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: leafy vegetation spots. All right, so we we've had two 370 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: tiny creatus, well, three tiny creatures so far. We've we've 371 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: talked about the uh, the the tiny pencil crawler. We've 372 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: talked about the horned rat, we talked about the dawn horse, 373 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: and now we're going to talk about the whale who 374 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: could walk. This was amazing to see at the Extreme 375 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: Mammals Exhibit because it it is a whale with with 376 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: four feet essentially, and it is terrifying to look at 377 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: because you know, normally think of whales as being the 378 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: sort of benevolent creatures lolling around in the waters but 379 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: not able to actually scramble up on a river bank 380 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: or you know, the sand and eat your foot. Yeah, 381 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: it basically kind of looks like a ten foot long 382 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: mammalian crocodile, like a flesh of dial Yeah. And one 383 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: of the cool things about this one is so a 384 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: lot of our our stories of sea monsters come from 385 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: the fact that if you if you have a whale 386 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: that is washed up on the beach and of its 387 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: flesh is gone, the and not not only the whale, 388 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: but other other sea mammals um with the flesh disappears, 389 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: and you're just looking at the skeleton. It looks like 390 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: a drastically different creature and you think, oh, look at 391 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: this thing. It has this slender head and it's was 392 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: living in the water. It must have been something fierce. 393 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: Well this is basically what this is, basically what this 394 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: creature looks like. Yeah, it just really looks like it 395 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: could take you off guard, I guess you could say, 396 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: which is the whole point of it. Right. It lived 397 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: about forty nine million years ago in the shallow seas 398 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: of what is now modern day Pakistan. Yeah, because Pakistan 399 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: back in these days, uh as an island off the 400 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: coast of of India in the Indian Ocean, yep. And 401 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: uh it weighed in about four hundred pounds pretty big. Yeah, 402 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: And of course we can look at modern whale specimens today, 403 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: and we we see the remnants of their their legs, 404 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: the remnants of their limbs that have not completely been 405 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: the form is not completely been abandoned in their evolution. 406 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: It's true, the front legs of whales have evolved into flippers, 407 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: and there's tiny remnants of hind legs inherited from their 408 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: landwelling ancestors which remain in this elaton, but they perform 409 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: no known function. Yeah, so it's sort of like the 410 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: wisdom teeth of the body. So scientists consider angle cita 411 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: is to be in early whale because it shares these 412 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: underwater adaptations. Uh, it had the adaptation of a nose 413 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: that enabled it to swallow underwater, and it's periodic bones 414 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: head structures like those of whales, enabling to hear well underwater. 415 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: And in addition, it's teeth are also similar to other 416 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: early whales. Indeed, all right, so this is the first 417 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: section of these extreme mammals. But do make sure to 418 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: check into the next episode because we're gonna look at 419 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: something that looks like a snuffle opicus. 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