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Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different

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Speaker 1: look at things true. Doherty and John Harris have their

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Speaker 2: Here's Drew Well, Hello, thanks a lot for joining us.

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Speaker 2: This is Andrew Doherty aka Drew. Gonna talk with Andrew

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Speaker 2: back a little bit later on. We're also going to

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Speaker 2: talk with Alex Lobe of the Believe Podcast Network. But

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Speaker 2: like always, we start things off with a conversation with

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Speaker 2: my good buddy John Harris. But before we do, please

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Speaker 2: you're thinking. I want to hear from you. We got

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Speaker 2: lots of Christmasy themed things to talk about today, So

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Speaker 2: without further ado, here I am talking to John Harris,

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Speaker 2: time for in the lab, time to talk with my

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Speaker 2: good pal John Harris. John, here's what we got on

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Speaker 2: today's show. You and I are going to discuss these things.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a what if I told you this

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Speaker 2: is very happy? What if I told you We're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a cream of the cropper for the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: So Christmas morning we're gonna wake up and say this

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Speaker 2: guy was a cream of the cropper for the Texans

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Speaker 2: because the crop. And then our Twitter question today, I

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Speaker 2: want this to ruminate for you, but our Twitter question

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Speaker 2: of the day is if Santa could bring the Texans anything,

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Speaker 2: he would come down the chimney with this on Christmas

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Speaker 2: morning and that could be. That can go a lot

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Speaker 2: of different ways.

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Speaker 3: So yes, you're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have a very creative answer for me. But first

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Speaker 2: things first, how you doing man good?

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Speaker 4: Much better than last week?

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Speaker 5: At this time, I'm kind of wondering what happened in

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Speaker 5: a really wonderful team win led by case Keenum nine

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Speaker 5: years after the fact, almost nine years to the day,

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Speaker 5: Drew of stepping in out of a deer blind and

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Speaker 5: leading the Texans to a victory. Now, the numbers weren't

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Speaker 5: tremendous against the Ravens back in twenty fourteen, but I

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Speaker 5: we got of a deer blind playing that Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Leading them to win was huge.

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Speaker 5: And I felt like in that game in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 5: he kind of managed the game. I felt like this

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Speaker 5: game against the Titans, he made winning plays that we

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Speaker 5: absolutely needed.

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Speaker 4: It was incredible to watch, incredible to watch.

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Speaker 2: He's now won three in a row as the Houston

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Speaker 2: Texans quarterback. It's got to be a record of some

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Speaker 2: sort because those three wins were wins two and three

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Speaker 2: have a gap of what nine ten years? Almost yeah,

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Speaker 2: nine years. It's remarkable. The last two games of the

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Speaker 2: fourteen season, which was his third season in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: but only second season to play because he spent twenty

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Speaker 2: and then Gary Kubiak made the call midway through what

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Speaker 2: and he started seven straight games, played pretty well, but

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Speaker 2: there's just so much working against that team. Anyway, another

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Speaker 2: time to the place, so much fun, so gratifying to

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Speaker 2: see Case do what he did. I know you're like me,

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Speaker 2: why did the tet Let's bring Kate? He'd be a

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Speaker 2: do what he did was just so heartwarming. And then

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the one thing that that resonated, especially

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Speaker 4: Now this is the twelve thirty and forty. It's the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, third different time that he's done it. You know,

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Speaker 5: It's funny, you know, there was there was so much

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Speaker 5: or all that. There were very few people that really

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Speaker 5: And I guess I can maybe say it now. We

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Speaker 5: But you know, the guys believed, uh and I feel

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Speaker 5: You know, Case had thrown the pick six and it

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Speaker 5: It was not Case's fault. It was a miscommunication. Running back.

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Speaker 5: I think it was Darry thought he should, you know,

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Speaker 5: It was not man and so it was just a miscommunication.

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Speaker 5: So Case through to where he thought Darry was gonna be.

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Speaker 5: Thirteen to nothing on that following drive. After that, Texans

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Speaker 5: and I just remember thinking, boy, this this ant could

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Speaker 2: And he did that at times that day. He did

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Speaker 5: Yes, and that to me was maybe the most dire

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Speaker 4: Are we in this thing, we're going to win this

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Speaker 5: And it just kind of I could kind of see

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Speaker 5: It's just like pumping his fist like yes, And it

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Speaker 5: was just kind of this moment of Okay, we're going

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Speaker 5: they had a pretty healthy team and we stuck it

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Speaker 5: on that day, So hopefully in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 5: that's still the case and no pun attended, and we

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Speaker 4: But we got bigger work with the Cleveland Browns for sure.

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Speaker 2: is to win a game. Yeah, and how you've got

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Speaker 2: you already knew before this thing started. There was no CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 2: a lot going against you even before this thing started.

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Speaker 2: But John, what if I told you thirty on Sunday morning, Hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: Texans are going to be down thirteen to nothing with

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Speaker 2: going to throw a pick six man, Texans are only

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Speaker 2: going to go four of fifteen on third down. Yep, John,

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Speaker 2: Texans are going to commit eight penalties on the road

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Speaker 2: for about seventy yards. What if I told you those things,

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Speaker 2: gonna be a long day, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know the flip side of that is okay,

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Speaker 5: And this is what you know?

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Speaker 4: What if I told you this is the counter?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: All those things happened, So how.

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Speaker 5: Did they get well Number one, Devin Singletary badass again.

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Speaker 4: Motor was incredible.

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Speaker 5: I really, I really wanted that touchdown run to stick

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Speaker 5: because it's such a fantastic representation of what Motor is

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Speaker 5: and how he runs, and it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: He had like eighty yards, like eighty yard yards from

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Speaker 2: If that sticks, you know, you know.

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Speaker 5: The play that will get forgotten Drene. It is interesting

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Speaker 5: because I was doing telestrator, I did telestraighter, I did

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Speaker 5: forgotten is the play that happens right after that.

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Speaker 4: And I'd like to.

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Speaker 5: Get Andre where to speak on this because one of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you would absolutely said that to me.

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Speaker 2: So much was made afterwards about sacking Will Levis seven times,

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Speaker 2: But they did a phenomenal job and bottling up Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 2: forward to Christmas morning. We're gonna wait wake up after

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Speaker 6: The cream of the crop l T.

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Speaker 4: And that's gonna be the toughest one.

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Speaker 2: So let me let me go with Singletary, because if

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Speaker 2: final thing, Johnny, what is the best thing that Santa

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Speaker 5: A brand new fibula for Tank Dell. Now, because he's

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Speaker 4: But that that would be definitely.

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Speaker 5: That maybe really nice, solid, strong right ankle for will

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Speaker 4: But I would think healthy body parts.

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Speaker 5: Man, that's you know, Santa could bring for everybody and

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Speaker 5: then and then maybe bring T shirts for everybody in

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Speaker 3: How about that E shirts? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why not? I don't know, something saying something on those

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Just did nice Just a nice Texans T shirt for

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Speaker 2: I thought you're talking about like division title. I know

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Speaker 4: That would be nice.

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Speaker 5: Without that'll be a little while and one of these

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Speaker 5: But the playoff possibilities are unbelievable right now in the AFC.

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Speaker 5: It's incredible. It is absolutely incredible. What's going on in

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Speaker 2: Well, here's what I want Santa to bring. Losses lumps

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Speaker 2: beat them in the season finale. That's what I want.

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Speaker 2: I want lost, that's a good one.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I want pain and suffering for others. That's what I want,

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Speaker 2: you know, the greatest guy of all, one of the

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I like it. Losses for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Well, losses for everyone.

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Speaker 2: Well, John, Merry Christmas to you and your family. I'm

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Speaker 2: have a good merry Christmas. And we're gonna move on

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Speaker 2: now and we're gonna go one on one with full

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Speaker 2: with it. You're gonna hear who intimidates him and those

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Speaker 2: big touchdown return. People who intimidate Andrew Beck were texting

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Speaker 3: John?

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Speaker 4: I like that tease. I can't wait to hear this.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be great.

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Speaker 2: Well, here we go, let's listen. This is my one

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Speaker 2: on one with full back Andrew Beck. Let's rank the Andrews.

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Speaker 2: You okay, President Andrew Jackson, comedian Andrew Dice Clay, the

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Speaker 2: actor Andrew Garfield. And I don't know if you're gonna

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Speaker 6: Well, that's a serious list right there.

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Speaker 2: That's a serious question for a serious dude. What's your

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Speaker 7: Oh, man, a serious answer. Who I'm gonna need him

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Speaker 7: all written out. Yeah, I mean, resident's up there, but

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Speaker 7: So we'll okay, we'll put him as a solid three.

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Speaker 2: I like that you have a good grasp on history.

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Speaker 6: Comedi.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that went could have got me in trouble a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna give it to him, man, that's hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He and he performed, And that's another one. He

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Speaker 7: I had my face all the time at the stadium.

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Speaker 6: I might get to a political career somedays. Oh really no,

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Speaker 2: What else is your agent want? Yeah, exactly, Okay, here's

438
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 2: this might help your agent out. Tell me about the

439
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: haircare routine. What do we what are we doing? You

440
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 2: got a nice long, flowing logs they've been that.

441
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 6: Long they've been.

442
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 7: I started growing it right after I got married, which

443
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 7: is about the time I discovered I don't get to

444
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 7: make any more choices.

445
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 6: So if it wor up to me, dude, i'd be buzzed.

446
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 6: Really yeah, man, My wife likes a long hair though,

447
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 6: so she wins that one.

448
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 7: So speaking to the haircare routine kind of, she's like, oh,

449
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 7: you should put this stuff in your hair and this,

450
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,719
Speaker 7: here's this leave in that you should should just leave

451
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 7: it on my bathroom sink, and as like a gentle encouragement,

452
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 7: I'm like, ah, right, throw this stuff in. So there

453
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 7: might be seven things in it at one time, and

454
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 7: I rest the shirt. I don't know what any of

455
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 7: them do.

456
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: You just put them in?

457
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 7: Follow her extra That's what I'm I'm big at saying yes, ma'am. No, man,

458
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 7: that's what I got here for.

459
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 2: That's good to know. Okay, you had the awesome touchdown

460
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: return in Jacksonville. I'm sure you asked about it all

461
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 2: the time. I was on the field shooting it with

462
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: my camera so cool and it was so sunny and bright,

463
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: and I was looking at my phone. I couldn't tell

464
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: exactly who caught it at first, and I could tell

465
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 2: there was like a juggling of it on the ground. Yeah,

466
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: there was a picking up. I still didn't know, and

467
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: I could tell the actions moveing this way, and I

468
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: saw you and I said, I drove back im and

469
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 2: then you ran and brought it all the way in.

470
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: Who's the most random person you heard from afterwards? Because

471
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 2: you said your phone blew up and got a lot

472
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: of messages.

473
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 6: That's a good one.

474
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 7: Most random person, It would be like one of my

475
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 7: dad's old bosses, so like people that I didn't really

476
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 7: interact with some dad military guy, right, the whole story.

477
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 7: So I don't really interact with his bosses because to me,

478
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 7: that's you know, it's like a couple of generals and

479
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 7: then like the president, so I don't talk to them.

480
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 7: I'm terrified of all of them. Back to the yestern

481
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 7: sort of thing. I think a couple of his old

482
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 7: bosses reached out from when I was younger, and there

483
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 7: was I mean to this day still I'm like nervous

484
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 7: when their phone or their name pops up on my phone.

485
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 7: But I think a couple of those guys reached out

486
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 7: pretty cool. I had some old high school teammates, coaches,

487
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 7: just people I went to school with.

488
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 6: It was I haven't talked to.

489
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 7: And gonna age me a little bit like ten years,

490
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 7: and it was it was cool to hear from a

491
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 7: lot of those. That's the cool stuff about the league

492
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 7: when things like that happen is you know, you don't

493
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 7: realize who E was gonna see it and who.

494
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 6: Was gonna reach out.

495
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you've had such a cool season

496
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: in that regard because you have the touchdown and then

497
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: your dad, Like you mentioned, he's a general salute to

498
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 2: service day. You know, he comes out of the tunnel,

499
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: the fires that canon. You had a nice moment with

500
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: him there. Well, how spontaneous was that? How planned out

501
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: was that by you?

502
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 7: So I knew that he was doing it because he

503
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 7: kind of talked me through it, But I until that

504
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 7: moment had never really noticed that we shoot a cannon

505
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 7: off and like everything before, because I'm like, you know,

506
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 7: right before the game.

507
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 6: It's stuff like that makes me feel I appreciate that.

508
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: It's literally some good deal.

509
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 7: So he had told me he was gonna do it,

510
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 7: and I kind of told me the whole spiel. We

511
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 7: get out, run through the tunnel, everybody comes out on

512
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 7: the field. And then I'm looking up, sitting down, looking

513
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 7: up at Jumble Tront and I see him start to

514
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 7: do it, and I'm like, oh, that's cool, Like I

515
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 7: wish they didn't pre record it. And then I looked

516
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 7: up and saw what was going on the field behind him,

517
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 7: and I looked down. I was like, oh, this is

518
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 7: actually happening. So like peeked up, looked down and saw

519
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 7: where he was down there and just started running down there.

520
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 7: I was like, surely nobody's gonna stop me if I

521
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 7: just start running at him. I got to go down

522
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 7: and I think I spooked him a little bit. Like

523
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 7: he told me, He's like, I didn't know you were

524
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 7: gonna be down there. I was like, I didn't either.

525
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 6: Man. It was great.

526
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 7: But we've talked about it a lot since then, just

527
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 7: like the things that have to line up in life

528
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 7: for the two of us to be in that moment

529
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 7: on an NFL field like before the GAT just absolutely

530
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 7: one of the coolest experiences ever.

531
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 6: Absolutely, no questions asked, really really cool.

532
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: You lived a lot of places growing up because of

533
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: what your dad did. Yeah, Germany, you were there twice.

534
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 2: I was how much German do you speak?

535
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 7: Not much Man because we moved back two thousand and one,

536
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 7: we moved back to Champagne, Illinois. My brother was fluent

537
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 7: and I knew a little bit. So in school we

538
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 7: weren't in the same grade. We went the same school.

539
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 7: We kind of overlapped, so we would mess around and

540
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 7: like speak to each other in German because we thought

541
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 7: we were cool and nobody else can understand. And the

542
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 7: principal called both of us in my parents in and

543
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 7: said they're not allowed to speak German anymore to each

544
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 7: other because the teachers didn't understand it. So we got

545
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 7: in trouble for speaking another language. So we both stopped

546
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 7: and we lost it, like a year later.

547
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: Or something like that, pulling stuff on these teachers. Where

548
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: is this chit chat?

549
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 7: Just yeah, just kind of talking like we didn't think

550
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 7: anything of it because it was funny and it was

551
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 7: what we were used to from where we had lived the.

552
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 6: Past two years.

553
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

554
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 7: And like I said, he knew significantly more than I did,

555
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 7: and he still knows more than I do. Now I

556
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 7: can say like ambulance and that's it, but and.

557
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 6: Like hospital or something.

558
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: But how much older is here than you?

559
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 6: Five years?

560
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: Five years? Okay? But he's one of your best friends.

561
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: I'm guessing right.

562
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 7: He is just moving around a lot and things like that.

563
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 7: He's he lives in and he's up before worth now

564
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 7: so he gets to come down not too far.

565
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 6: So nice. Yeah.

566
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 2: I saw a really cool picture on your Instagram and

567
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: you haven't. First of all, why weren't you on Instagram anymore?

568
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 6: Are you posting on social media? Like twenty nineteen? I

569
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 6: think it was my last post.

570
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: It was right for the pandemic.

571
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I put all that stuff away, and I

572
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 7: got to tell you, man, I've loved it since then.

573
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 6: It's tough and it won't.

574
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 7: Last forever, just with the way the future is going.

575
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 7: Social media such an integral part of everything now. But

576
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 7: I've gotta tell you, man, it's been really.

577
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 6: Nice not having a word It made that change.

578
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: Why did you do that?

579
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 7: It was just kind of going into one season seeing

580
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 7: a bunch of stuff, and I got so worried about

581
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 7: the things I was reading and stuff like that on

582
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 7: there that sometimes it's kind of nice to just silence

583
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 7: that stuff what you can control, and because you know

584
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 7: we'll hear stuff anyways, but the stuff you can control,

585
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 7: silencing is kind of nice to sometimes push it to

586
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 7: the side. And I just pushed it to side and

587
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 7: kind of left it there. And it's another thing my agent,

588
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 7: which is that he had more control.

589
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 6: Of than he doesn't.

590
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 7: But yeah, I decided how to and it started with

591
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 7: Facebook and then it kind of went to everything. And

592
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 7: now I enjoyed not I'm still on my phone too much,

593
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 7: but I enjoy not having to do social media.

594
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 2: You're happy, though, I loving every minute of it. That's fantastic.

595
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: But back to the original question. I was looking through

596
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: it and there's a cool picture of you as a

597
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: little guy with Mac Brown. Yeah, so you're always a

598
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: long run and then you play for the Longhorn. So

599
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: with that mine, who's your favorite all time Longhorn? Any sport?

600
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 6: Any sport?

601
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm gonna stick to football. I don't why I

602
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 7: said that with such such enthusiasm, Everybody's gonna say, like

603
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 7: Ricky or Vy, I don't want to be that guy.

604
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 7: Maybe Earl Campbell Man Earl By just the physicality he

605
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 7: ran with. Then I got to meet him one time

606
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 7: and it was the most terrified I've been because he's

607
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 7: like larger than life. And you go on this, you know,

608
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 7: we walked from our dorm to the stadium. There was

609
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 7: three statues and he was one of them, two thousand winners,

610
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 7: and so the statue he's like larger than life as

611
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 7: it is, will walk by every day and then you

612
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 7: meet him, if you ever get the chance to meet him.

613
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 7: None of his fingers go in the same direction, but

614
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 7: he'll still stick his hand out to shake your hand.

615
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 7: And that threw me off a lot. So everything about

616
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 7: him is just intimidating to me. Back from his play

617
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 7: style to not just like interacting with him nowadays. So

618
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 7: I think I think he's top of the list for me.

619
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: Man, that's a good one. I mean, and he's a

620
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: Houstonian or Houston legend.

621
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 6: Exact oilers, Yeah, exactly.

622
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: I like that one. Okay, you're stuck in a ten

623
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: by ten foot room, it's filled with food, and you

624
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: got to eat your way out or you're gonna die.

625
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: What's the food you would choose to eat your way

626
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: out with?

627
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 7: Oh, man, Halloween candy. Any I'm not picking at all.

628
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 7: I have a serious problem. My wife had to throw

629
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 7: it away, like we had it in our house left over.

630
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 7: We stocked up for trigger treaters because all we heard

631
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 7: was where we lived, there's a huge sugar treat And

632
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 7: I think we got like four kids to come to

633
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 7: our house.

634
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 6: We gave them each like huge bags.

635
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: Really.

636
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, the parents evidently that's not a cool.

637
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: Thing to you, mixed it up and had a bunch

638
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: of different.

639
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 7: But yeah, but still like we were it was late

640
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 7: enough the night we were like here, just take all this. Yeah,

641
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 7: and the parents are just looking like I'm gonna remember

642
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 7: this house. But yeah, for me, it's gonna be Halloween

643
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 7: candy and anything, because I have zero self control when

644
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 7: it comes to like I said, I find them and

645
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 7: my wife just throw it away. Yeah, I felt bad

646
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 7: we donated something to like we took it to the

647
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 7: fire department, and I'm sure they probably ate it or

648
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 7: did something.

649
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 2: Bad righted the firefighters too, And I have.

650
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 6: A problem when it comes to Halloween candy.

651
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: That's a good answer like that one. What's the first

652
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: thing you do in the morning, first thing I do

653
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: in the morning. Do you have an alarm clock? Or

654
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: do you just wake up naturally?

655
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 4: No?

656
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 6: I wish no, I'm an alarm clock.

657
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 7: Usually it depends so like today, I woke up at

658
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 7: five point fifty because you try to get here like

659
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Speaker 7: six fifteen sixty twenty. My commuse not too bad. Yeah,

660
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Speaker 7: but so like apart from driving in or like off season,

661
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Speaker 7: when I'm at home, I am right to the coffeemaker immediately,

662
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Speaker 7: I have to. I'm like a seventy year old man

663
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Speaker 7: in that aspect. I mean, I'm three cups a day

664
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Speaker 7: now getting mad.

665
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Speaker 6: Wow, it's offsetting for all the Halloween.

666
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: You've got to be a weak eating right now, got

667
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Speaker 2: to be awake.

668
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Speaker 7: Right, That's exactly you know, it's it's like two in

669
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Speaker 7: the morning, so I got one right when I get up.

670
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Speaker 7: Then we lift, then another one in meetings, and then

671
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Speaker 7: usually when we go back to these afternoon meetings, I'll

672
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Speaker 7: have another one just because, yeah, so they can get

673
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Speaker 7: a little.

674
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Speaker 2: Link after the physical exertion the early week exactly. The food.

675
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Speaker 6: I feel like I can justify all of them. As

676
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Speaker 6: long as I can do that.

677
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Speaker 2: We're good, right, You're healthy, dude, you can splurge a

678
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: little bit of coffee.

679
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Speaker 7: I appreciate that you got any nicknames. No, I've been

680
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 7: Beck my entire life. I have an older brother and

681
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 7: my parents call me Beck and him Alex all the time.

682
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 7: And I think it was we sat down and discussed

683
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Speaker 7: it one day. We think it's stems from playing baseball

684
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 7: when I was younger, because I called them christensaw. My

685
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 7: parents ended christ and Sally, and I call him christ

686
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 7: and Sow. And it started way too young for me

687
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 7: to be doing that, But then we decided that that was.

688
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 7: It was like I got tired yelling Dad or mom,

689
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 7: and like twelve people turned over looking and see Chris,

690
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 7: and then I get, you know, the one, So I

691
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 7: think that's where from. But now I've never had any nicknames.

692
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 7: My parents tried to make juristic. It never stuck. My

693
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 7: mother said if I went by Andy, she'd killed me,

694
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 7: so we stuck back. She's the leader of the house.

695
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 7: I went straight from mom to wife. I don't know

696
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Speaker 7: what it's like to make my choices.

697
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Speaker 2: So when did you start picking out what clothes you

698
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: wanted to wear to school?

699
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Speaker 6: I'll let you know when that happens. Anythink I'll picked

700
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 6: this out? No way, No, man, I'm way too coordinated.

701
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Speaker 2: Right now.

702
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Speaker 6: I think I did well all black. Yeah.

703
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Speaker 7: No, I Every now and then I'll try and throw

704
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 7: my own stuff in there. If I'm wearing jeans and boots.

705
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 7: Usually it's my idea. If it's anything else.

706
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Speaker 2: What would you do when you're in college?

707
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Speaker 6: Hook the man they get if they gave us.

708
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 7: Something to it went right into the cycle. There other

709
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Speaker 7: guys in this arster that have better fashion sense than me.

710
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Speaker 2: I'll go grab who's got the best fashion sens?

711
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Speaker 6: You regard me?

712
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 7: No questions asked. I told him I wanted to take

713
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Speaker 7: me shopping. But I look at what he wears, and

714
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't know if I spend on this stuff. Man,

715
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Speaker 7: But he addresses like a million bucks, literally a million

716
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 7: bucks every day.

717
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Speaker 6: Really well done.

718
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Speaker 2: What's the one third you think your teammates would use

719
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Speaker 2: to describe you?

720
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Speaker 7: For me, it's it's toughness, man. I hope they think

721
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 7: I was a tough guy. You know, everybody's playing through

722
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 7: through injuries and stuff at this point and not letting

723
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Speaker 7: any of that kind of hamper what you do on

724
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Speaker 7: a daily basis and and showing up day in and

725
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 7: day out no matter how you're feeling, and at the

726
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Speaker 7: end of the day on the fullback man. So I

727
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Speaker 7: I you know, I would hope that that's what they

728
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Speaker 7: would say. Whether that's true or not, I'll let them

729
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Speaker 7: hold on that. I'll ignorance is blissed sometimes, so I'll

730
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Speaker 7: just keep it like that. But I would hope that

731
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Speaker 7: that's what they'd say.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, Andrew Beck, appreciate the time.

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Speaker 6: Thanks, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's time to talk Cleveland Browns. We're gonna do

735
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Speaker 2: so with Max Loebe. He's the co host of The

736
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Speaker 2: Dog Check on the Believe podcast network. He does it

737
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Speaker 2: with a former Texas Longhorn, one of my all time

738
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Speaker 2: favorite players, Eric Metcalf, a real slippery guy. As a

739
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: running back, as a receiver, as a return man. He

740
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Speaker 2: was a force of news and Max, I don't know

741
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Speaker 2: if you've ever seen this, but Eric has a fantastic video.

742
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: It was basically his heisman hype video and it was

743
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: produced by I think the University of Texas with the

744
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: worst song you could probably ever put on a hype video.

745
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: It was like a slow love song at Alabama and

746
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: it was called You've Got the Touch. So go look

747
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: that up. You'll you will not be disappointed. It's probably

748
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: forty five minutes of content. But Max, first things first,

749
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Speaker 2: thanks for coming on you guys. Are the Cleveland Browns

750
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Speaker 2: ever gonna lose again? I mean, what's going on? This

751
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: is supposed to be. Once Deshaun Watson went down, it

752
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: was like lights out, that's it, and that has not

753
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Speaker 2: been the case whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: I hope they never lose again, but I think eventually

755
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: it'll be inevitable. But I don't know yet. When Deshaun

756
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: went down, when Nick Chubb went down, when obol or

757
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: Uncle went down, when they're starting tackles went down, it's

758
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: just everything, and I'm sure we'll touch on that later.

759
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Speaker 3: But you wouldn't think they would be as good as

760
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Speaker 3: they are, but finding ways to win. And I think

761
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Speaker 3: that's the credit the coaching staff for sure, but the

762
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Speaker 3: personnel they put in place too, they're what I've seen

763
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Speaker 3: is they're really going out of their way to maximize

764
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Speaker 3: what they had, especially offensively. The identity has changed tremendously

765
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Speaker 3: over the past couple weeks, especially with Joe Flacco. You

766
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: think in Cleveland Browns football, you think of running the ball,

767
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Speaker 3: You think of time of possession and field position battle,

768
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Speaker 3: which are the case partially, but they are passing the

769
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Speaker 3: ball like nobody else. The three games of Flaccos the

770
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Speaker 3: second most pass yards in the NFL. So it's been

771
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Speaker 3: really really refreshing to see Stefanski and that staff utilize

772
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Speaker 3: their personnel in different ways. And obviously the defense has

773
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Speaker 3: been doing it all year long, but it's really really

774
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Speaker 3: cool to see. I think they will lose again eventually,

775
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Speaker 3: but hopefully not any time soon, and we're going.

776
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Speaker 2: To dive deeper into some more stuff. But I mean,

777
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Speaker 2: just thirty thousand foot view, it says a hell of

778
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Speaker 2: a lot and you touched on this says a hell

779
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Speaker 2: of a lot about the character of the team and

780
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Speaker 2: the coaching staff, Like you're talking about too to persevere

781
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Speaker 2: when man, so many odds have just been stacked against

782
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Speaker 2: four different starting quarterbacks correct, correct.

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Speaker 3: And they've won a game with any every single one.

784
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Speaker 3: Excuse me, ye, it's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Joe Flacco. What have you seen

786
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Speaker 2: from this guy in the last few weeks. I remember

787
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco obviously from what he did with the Ravens,

788
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Speaker 2: and I remember being on the field. The Texans played

789
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Speaker 2: Baltimore twice in twenty eleven, once in the regular season

790
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Speaker 2: in October, once in just an epic playoff game in

791
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Speaker 2: the Divisional round, and the Texans absolutely beat the ever

792
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Speaker 2: living hell out of Joe Flacco. I'm never gonna say

793
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is an elite quarterback, but I will say

794
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is an elite tough guy. He took everything

795
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Speaker 2: they had, he just popped back up and kept slinging it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very much been like that in Cleveland too.

797
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Speaker 3: Like I just harped on, they don't have their starting

798
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: right tackle, their starting left tackle, and their backup right

799
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 3: tackle was probably gonna be on the All Rookie team

800
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: also done for the year, So it's a beat up

801
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: offensive line. Their center was out last game. Their left

802
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: guard Joel Patonio got banged up and missed a bunch

803
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: of snaps. It's a it's a makeshift offensive line, so

804
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: he's taken some hits. But they've done a really good

805
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: job of keeping extra guys in protection. They've done a

806
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: really good job of chipping guys like montes Set I

807
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: think he had a sack last game, but neutralized for

808
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: the vast majority of the game. And they're just letting

809
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 3: them sling the ball. It's really really refreshing to see.

810
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: And you kind of knew watching the Browns games this

811
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 3: year that Amari Cooper still had a lot left in

812
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: the tank. You obviously know what you have athletically. And

813
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: David Nijoku and I was a big Elijah Morgan, and

814
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Speaker 3: I think his rapport with Flacco in New York previously

815
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: helped a lot too, but he's been getting involved a

816
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: lot more. It's good to see them trusting those guys

817
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: because I think they have a lot of talent, and

818
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: I think the old Browns without Flacco, you're almost pigeonholed

819
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Speaker 3: into this. You know, play action zone, run centric scheme

820
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: with quarterbacks who can also pull the ball, pull the ball,

821
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Speaker 3: so you got to pass a little bit more, and

822
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Speaker 3: you got to make up for those lost snaps where

823
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: you were running the ball efficiently with quarterbacks too, but

824
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: you got to make up for the snaps. And it's

825
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: been really really good for the most part with Flacco,

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Speaker 3: I will see. I will say the turnovers really scare

827
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: me because they not only come frequently, they come in

828
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Speaker 3: bad places on the field. Like they had a pick

829
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Speaker 3: that the Bears picked off at the Browns I went

830
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: like twenty five or thirty yard line, returned to the

831
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Speaker 3: one and scored a touchdown. Blacko threw a pick six

832
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: that was probably not all on him, but returned for

833
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: a touchdown. The fumble he almost had a fumble, excuse me,

834
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Speaker 3: that was their own twenty yard line, and then after

835
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: the Bears muffed the punt, the Browns got the ball

836
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: at the Bears twenty six or twenty seven. Next play

837
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 3: throws a pick. So the turnovers are not only happening frequently,

838
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Speaker 3: they're happening at really bad places on the field too.

839
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Speaker 3: So I don't think there's a good place to have

840
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: a turnover on the field, but doing it in your

841
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: own red zone or your opponent's red zone. It's magnified

842
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an odd stat because the Texans are looking

844
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: up at the Browns win loss wise, they're getting back

845
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: of the Browns. But Cleveland is twenty eighth in turnover

846
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: differential in the NFL. And for those that don't know,

847
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: turnover differential is when you have it's the difference between

848
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: takeaways and turnovers. So the Browns are twenty eighth in

849
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: the league. They've turned it over seven more times than

850
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: they've taken it away. And the Texans, meanwhile, they're fourth

851
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: in the NFL. They're plus eight, so they've taken it

852
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: away eight more times and they've turned it over. Only

853
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: three teams forty nine ers, the Bengals and the Cowboys

854
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: are better than Houston in that stat And it's really

855
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: really weird. You bring it up as something that scares you.

856
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: How have they been able to thrive, been able to

857
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: win so many games? You think despite that disparity.

858
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: I think one aspect of just defensive football in general

859
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: that the turnover margin will never, like statistically take into

860
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 3: account is three and outs. The Browns have forced I believe,

861
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: more three and outs than anybody in the NFL. More

862
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: three and outs than anybody in the NFL at home,

863
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: so that is an enormous part of their defense. They

864
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: come out swing and they stop the run, they get

865
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: off the field quick. So like in the turnover margin,

866
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: that is definitely a part of it for sure, but

867
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Speaker 3: it's the red zone defense, like if they turn the

868
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: ball over, the Browns are doing a really really good

869
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: job of either not letting the other team get a

870
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 3: first down or move the football, or if they do

871
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: get in the red zone, not letting them score. It's

872
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: been difficult with that. Denzel Ward last week was his

873
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: first game back, but the red zone defense, holding teams

874
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: to three instead of seven has been enormous for the Browns,

875
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: and it's parts of it are just unexplainable, like you think,

876
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: especially that Jacksonville game that the Browns had last week,

877
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: they literally did everything they could to actively lose the

878
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: game on offense and they still wont Sometimes you just

879
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 3: you just find ways to win. You make more plays

880
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: than the other team, you make plays at better times too,

881
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: So there is some aspect of it that's unexplainable. But

882
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: taking care of the defense in the red zone and

883
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: then the three and outs have been huge too, And

884
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: like I said, that'll never be like statistically counted for

885
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: in that aspect of turnover differential, but I honestly think

886
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: it should. It's as good as a turnover forcing a

887
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: punt within two minutes.

888
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they're they've been outstanding. Like you mentioned,

889
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: you touched on it not standing at home this year

890
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 2: they've only lost the one game to the Ravens yep.

891
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: But on the road it's been a different story. They've

892
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 2: got two wins, but they've the defense they've they've given

893
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: up quite a bit. I mean, it looks like they're

894
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: averaging about thirty yards given up, or at least the

895
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: Browns are giving up thirty yards a game, thirty points

896
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: per game, twenty is about the twenty four is about

897
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: the the best they've done. That's the lowest they've held

898
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: their opponents. How do you explain that? I mean, defense

899
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: usually travels, doesn't it.

900
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: Well, it's weird when you look at it game by game.

901
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing for the Browns this season.

902
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 3: Everybody will point fingers at Miles Garrett being their best player.

903
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: I think people look at the tape you point out

904
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: Dalvin Tomlinson being a run stopper. That helps in a

905
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: lot of different aspects. Not having Denzel Ward the past

906
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: couple of weeks when they gave up thirty something points

907
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: to the Rams, I think twenty nine to Denver both

908
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: on the road. That is the biggest thing because not

909
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 3: only is that your number one corner, who I personally

910
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: think is playing better than almost anybody in the NFL

911
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: this season, you lose your number one corner, but with

912
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: that all so allows you to do because the Browns

913
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: plays so much man coverage, you can go trust him,

914
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: trust Martin Emerson, trust Greg News some other corners to

915
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: just go play one on one receivers and then add

916
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: an extra guy to the pass rush. That gives Miles

917
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 3: Garrett a one on one, that gives Zadarius Smith a

918
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: one on one, that gives whoever you want a one

919
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: on one, or you out number them six to five,

920
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: whatever you whatever it may be, you trust those guys

921
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: to cover in the back end. And that's what happened

922
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: last game because the Bears they scored seventeen points. One

923
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: was a pick six, one was a touchdown where they

924
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: got the ball at to one.

925
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: So you can put the offensive Yeah, yeah, the point

926
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: total in that one, yeah, for sure.

927
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you look at some of the other

928
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: the road games. The Browns have allowed a lot of

929
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: points and the Indie game. Indy had a really really

930
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: good offensive game. The Steelers game, they scored twelve offensive points. Like,

931
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 3: there are some games where I don't think. I don't

932
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 3: think the numbers do it justice yet the two defensive

933
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 3: touchdowns for Steelers pretty crazy.

934
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: But Steelers are not a good team. The Steelers are

935
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: not a good team. What we saw them here and

936
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: they got blasted the Yeah, smoking mirrors right there. But

937
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt, Like no.

938
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: I could not agree more, could not agree more. But yeah,

939
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: I think Denzel Ward missing the past couple games has

940
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: been the biggest issue. But it's a very real thing

941
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 3: having home field advantage, whether it's the noise, the fans,

942
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: the comfort of playing at home, it's a very real thing.

943
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: And that's why I think I've told a lot of

944
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: people this. You never know what's gonna happen with the

945
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: AFC this year. It is as open as ever. There

946
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: is not one team that separates themselves from the rest.

947
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: I think it'd be a stretch to say the Browns

948
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: win the AFC North, but they make the playoffs of

949
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: the wild card, getting that five seed instead of a

950
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: six or seven. Who knows, maybe maybe AFC Championship game

951
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: rules around. You're playing good football, and so are the

952
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: six seed Houston Texans, or so are the seven seed

953
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. You're gonna host them, so who knows. It's

954
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: an important thing. But as for the road defense, I

955
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: think it's a couple of things. The comfort for sure,

956
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: and the fans, but the perfect storm in a lot

957
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: of those road games, for sure.

958
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: Max Lobe has a podcast about the Cleveland Browns. It's

959
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: called The Dog Check on the Believe Network. Max, you

960
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: just brought him up, but we're very familiar with Miles Garrett.

961
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: He played just up the road in Texas, A and

962
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: m He is a dominant force. Have you seen anything

963
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: growth wise out of him this season or is just

964
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: more of the same, more of the excellence that's been

965
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: happening over the last five, six, seven years.

966
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: I think maturity has come a really really long way

967
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: with him. I think especially the past couple weeks, he

968
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: hasn't had a sack in like three weeks, and it's

969
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: partially because they're just giving him so much attention, right

970
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: double teams, whatever it may be, but growth wise, maturity,

971
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: doing different things defensively too, He's been a really really

972
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: good part of this run defense, which is one of

973
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 3: the best in the NFL. He is understanding his role

974
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: and letting the guys around him go make plays. And

975
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: I think if you ask a lot of Browns fans

976
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: who's been the best defensive player in the past, like

977
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: three four weeks, Garrett would not be the first name

978
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: that came to their mind. He may not even the

979
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: second name that came to their mind. I think him

980
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: doing that, being able to make plays draw attention and

981
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: just you know, not hearing a pete I think is

982
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: a huge thing. And I think you know just what

983
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: he does and how much attention he brings to one

984
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: side of the offensive line or a defense or an

985
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: offensive game plan. That's another huge thing. And now that

986
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: Browns actually have other players like Dalvin Tomlinson, Jeremiah Usu

987
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: Koramoa a z A, Darius Smith that could actually go

988
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: make plays if you do double team him, that's been

989
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 3: a huge difference I've noticed too.

990
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: On the offensive side of the ball. You told us

991
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: about some of those weapons and Marii Cooper everybody knows

992
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: about him. David and Joku is doing phenomenal things. He's

993
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: actually got eight more catches than does Cooper. But these

994
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: guys can hit you in a lot of different ways.

995
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: And is Blacko just unlocking all that, being the pure passer,

996
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: being the guy that is able to do those things.

997
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: Is he just kind of unlocked some of what was

998
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: maybe lacking earlier in the season.

999
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: I think yes. I think in terms of pure passing,

1000
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 3: he has been definitely better than you know, dtr or PJ. Walker,

1001
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: probably better than Watson though. And yes, I think he's

1002
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: unlocking him and having a better passer who's more comfortable

1003
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 3: is a good thing, and that's probably helping the receivers.

1004
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: But I honestly think it's a volume thing. Like the

1005
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: past three weeks, the Browns have thrown the ball more

1006
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 3: than they ever have at any point in the season.

1007
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 3: And again, I think that's partially because your best run

1008
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: blocking offensive linemen are hurt. It's partially because you don't

1009
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 3: have Nick Chubb. But they haven't had Nick Chubb all year.

1010
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 3: I think they realize what their strengths are offensively. I

1011
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: think they realize Blackho can throw the ball. I think

1012
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: they're starting to realize very few people on planet Earth

1013
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 3: can cover David Joku. I think they know they have

1014
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: a good receiver and Mark Cooper alies and more like

1015
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: two weeks ago, Mark Cooper had fourteen targets. I believe

1016
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: that was the season high for any Browns player. David

1017
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: Njoko had double digit targets last week, like that didn't

1018
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: happen when they would play with Shaun Watson. And I

1019
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: think it's a very much a playing your strengths thing

1020
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 3: because the reality of the situation for the Browns offenses,

1021
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: they're better offensively in the pass game than they are

1022
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: in the run game. Again, I think that's a credit

1023
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: to the offensive staffs, the fans key for seeing that

1024
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: and realizing that. But as much as I want to

1025
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: say Flacco has unlocked everybody, I think it's a volume thing.

1026
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: Run defense or should be run game. Is it just

1027
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: if they scaled back because of all the passing like

1028
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: you're talking about.

1029
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: They've scaled back, But it's interesting they're still like moderately efficient,

1030
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: like they've they've been efficient last week against the Bears,

1031
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: who I think it were the second best run defense

1032
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: in the second half of the season. Up until that point,

1033
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: like they were. They're fine, like they're efficient, but they

1034
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: knew the advantage they had in pass games. They threw

1035
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: the ball more. I think again, it's very much playing

1036
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 3: to your strengths, and I don't think the FANSI will

1037
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: ever truly abandon the run game, but he's gotten away

1038
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 3: with it with quick passes. The screen game has been

1039
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: a lot more prevalent in the past couple of weeks.

1040
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 3: He's gotten away from it, but it's still finding ways

1041
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 3: to win early downs and occasionally what the Browns will

1042
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: do is just go play action deep shot off first down,

1043
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 3: just to keep everybody on their toes. It's honestly worked

1044
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: more times than not, so it's it's a really really

1045
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: refreshing thing to see Stefanski and that offense changing the

1046
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 3: identity a little bit. But the run game has totally

1047
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: scaled back. I don't know if it's they realize they

1048
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: just can't do it as effectively with Nick Chubb. I

1049
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: just think they're still moderately efficient or the past couple

1050
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: weeks they've just had better matchups in the pass game.

1051
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 3: But it has certainly scaled back, and it's been noticeable

1052
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: for sure.

1053
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: Max Lobe of the Dog Check podcast on the Believe

1054
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 2: Network is with us in Max. Deshaun Watson didn't get

1055
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: to play too much this season, and now Joe Flacco

1056
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: signed for another year, looks to be a pretty darn

1057
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: good backup next season. But he's the guy going right now,

1058
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: what do you make of the future with Deshaun Watson.

1059
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: What's what's happened there?

1060
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: I don't think the Browns will look past Watson like

1061
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: I think Watson is undoubtedly in the building the guy.

1062
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: It's interesting to see the timing of all this because

1063
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: that Ravens game, the last game he played the season

1064
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: was what fourteen for fourteen the second half, multiple touchdowns.

1065
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: It was the best half football he's played all year

1066
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: against probably the best defense in the NFL. And it

1067
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: kind of stinks as you thought, well, maybe everything's clicking

1068
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: and then he gets hurt. So it seems like you

1069
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: can make a lot of excuses for Deshaun Watson's play

1070
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: on the field, and at some point you got to

1071
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: ask yourself when do we stop making excuses. But it's

1072
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: tough to see, like he hasn't had a full offseason

1073
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: plus a season he's battling the shoulder injury all year long,

1074
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: and obviously two years ago is its own. It was

1075
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: his own entity with him coming back and no offseason,

1076
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 3: all that stuff. But I think it will be hard

1077
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: for the Browns to just look past him because he

1078
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: does provide you a lot. He provides you with not

1079
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: only a good arm experienced quarterback at this point in

1080
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: his career two, but he can extend plays, He can

1081
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: contribute in the quarterback run game. And I think this offense,

1082
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: regardless of whose quarterback, is going to be significantly better

1083
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: when you had Nick Chubb at the mix.

1084
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, how much have you missed or how much of

1085
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: the Browns missed him?

1086
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Speaker 3: Max a lot. I really do find it interesting though,

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00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: like they run the ball less noticeably less, especially with Flacco,

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00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 3: but when you look at the efficiency numbers, they're not bad.

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00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 3: Like it's it's not like Nick Chubb Losing Nick Chubb

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00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: has completely ruined the run game, which would happen with

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00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: a lot of teams, like like if the Giants saw

1092
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley, like the run game is scratched. That doesn't

1093
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: happen with the Browns, or at least it hasn't, but

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00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: it's been huge. I think he's really the emotional leader,

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00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: like he's the guy that's been there, he's the guy

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00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: that can really go make plays whenever the ball is

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00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: in his hands. But again, now you have guys like

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Speaker 3: David and Joku doing that. Now you have guys like

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Speaker 3: Amari Cooper doing that. So I would be really fascinating

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Speaker 3: to see what the offense would look like with Flacco

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00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: if they had Chubb. But it's it's hard to put

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00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: into words the impact that Chubb has on the field.

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00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: Like you could short yardage your third and medium, you

1104
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: can stack a box against the Browns, and now you

1105
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 3: couldn't do that with Nick Chub. Or sorry, you can't

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00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 3: stack a box. Now you had to do that with

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00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb. It gives people one on ones on the

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00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: sideline with Mary Cooper and allows you more. So it's

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00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: it's a lot of hypotheticals, but definitely definitely missed for sure.

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Speaker 2: Last question for you, Max Lobe of The Dog Check

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00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: on Believe Network of podcasts, how much fun has this

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00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: team been to cover this season? Here we are on

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00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: the verge of Christmas, they're in the thick of the

1114
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: playoff race, and like we mentioned off the top four

1115
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 2: different starting quarterbacks have all won a game. How much

1116
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: fun is this? Just looking back at what you've been

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00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: able to cover this.

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00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: Year, it's been it's been incredible, and I've been fortunate

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00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: enough to go to a couple of games. So I

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00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: was at the Tennessee game, which which probably Watson's best

1121
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: game outside of the Baltimore game, and that atmosphere, the

1122
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett of three sacks that game, like the atmosphere

1123
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: of the dog Pound is a little bit different. I

1124
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 3: was at the Arizona game, like you beat up on

1125
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: that team, but best defensive game they've had this year.

1126
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: They allowed like a yard to play. It was ridiculous.

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00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 3: The atmosphere is different there too, But the really really

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00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: cool moment I had, especially just as as somebody who

1129
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: watches football, I was at the forty nine Ers game

1130
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: watching what they did the forty nine ers, that ridiculous win, PJ.

1131
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: Walker coming in starting quarterback on short notice, Like it's

1132
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: it's been unbelievable. It's so much fun. And the reality

1133
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 3: is that they win another game or two, there probably

1134
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 3: will be in the playoffs and Cleveland Brown's playoff football.

1135
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm somebody who's not from Cleveland. I'm from Massachusetts, so

1136
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 3: I've only been out here since I went to college

1137
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 3: out John Carroll. It's been this entity that's been cursed.

1138
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: It's been this entity that's been bad and just all

1139
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: over the place. There's nothing ever good. Obviously you have

1140
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: the playoff game against the Chiefs and all of that.

1141
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: You missed the playoffs past couple of years. There's hope

1142
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: and it just feels different. Like I was talking about

1143
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 3: it with a couple of my friends that hail Mary

1144
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: to Darnel Mooney, that is a pass that somebody would

1145
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 3: catch against the Cleveland Browns, Like, that's a play that

1146
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: would be made to lose the Cleveland Browns game. When

1147
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: I think back, just as a fan, like six or

1148
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: seven years ago, that field goal that the Browns had

1149
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: to win the game against Baltimore moderately, really reasonable field

1150
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: goal to win the game Division game against Baltimore blocked

1151
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: and returned for a touchdown at the end of regulation

1152
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: in the Ravens way, Like that's the type of play

1153
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: that I see happening to the Cleveland Browns as a fan.

1154
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, Wow, you know, maybe this franchise is cursed.

1155
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: Then they've lost so many people to injury this year.

1156
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 3: You still ask the question, but that that hail Mary, Like,

1157
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: there's just something weird about it. I can't describe it,

1158
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 3: like that's a play that would get made against the Browns.

1159
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 3: The balls right here, like literally in his hands, it

1160
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: drops it. It just something something feels a little bit different.

1161
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, just feels different.

1162
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: Well, it's been remarkable because Texans fans have obviously kept

1163
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: their eyes on what the Browns have been doing. Because

1164
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: the Texans have the Browns draft pick. They traded there's

1165
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: a way to Arizona in return for Will Anderson, and

1166
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: like I said at the beginning, the just keep wuning.

1167
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 6: Yep.

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00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: It's very, very frustrating, but you do have to tip

1169
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: your cap because this is a Titanic game for both

1170
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: teams this weekend. I mean there's a lot riding on it.

1171
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 2: For the Texans, there are two games over five hundred

1172
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: they've beaten the Bengals, yet because of the weird tiebreaker

1173
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: system in the NFL, they're they're looking up at the

1174
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: Bengals even though they have the same record and a

1175
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: better record in the division, a better record in the

1176
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: conference than Cincinnati. So this is a good one. They

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Speaker 2: need to get the Cleveland Browns, and we appreciate your insight.

1178
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: Max Lobe. You tell Eric Metcalf that he's got a

1179
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: big fan, ten year old Andy Doherty. That's me was

1180
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: a big big Eric Metcalf back in the day. He

1181
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: was like a bead of mercury. It was tough to get,

1182
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: it's tough to tackle, and you guys got a great

1183
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 2: thing going there.

1184
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for having me on it,

1185
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 3: and Drew, I appreciate a big time. I am so

1186
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 3: looking forward to this game, and I was thinking about

1187
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: it like you you look at like a wild card

1188
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 3: game and you title it just win in week whatever.

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00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: This is sixteen, Like for the Browns, obviously it's a

1190
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: must win. And if they do win, like I said,

1191
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: they're essentially in the playoffs, which is crazy to think about. Yeah,

1192
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 3: but if you're the Taxans, like you look at the

1193
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: other games this week, like since he has Pittsburgh, Buffalo

1194
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 3: has the Chargers, like looking at that, it is magnified

1195
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: even more, like you don't want to lose a leg

1196
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 3: right now, especially you know INDI's playing good football too,

1197
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: Like it's it's pretty crazy and it's as crazy as

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00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: it sounds, that division is still up for grabs too sure,

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Speaker 3: and the Daguars are I don't know.

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00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: Their quarterback is concuss like like the texansack. So we'll

1201
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 2: see about Stroud whether he plays or not this week.

1202
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: But you know, this feels I'm a little older than you,

1203
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: but this feels like the late eighties and the early

1204
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: nineties when the Oilers and the Browns were you know,

1205
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: they'd have some good teams that played some meaningful football.

1206
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 2: A lot of times it was up in the snow

1207
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: in Cleveland at at mistaken, but this is fun. Houston

1208
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: and Cleveland squared off for a big one on Christmas

1209
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: eve Day. Max Lobe, thank you so much for the time.

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Speaker 2: We will follow your work and you can check out

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Speaker 2: Max on Twitter at lobes Leads. That's lo E B

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00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: S l e A d s at lobes Leads. He's

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00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: Max Lobe of the Believe Network Believe Podcast Network. This

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00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: is the dog Check podcast that he is on. And Max,

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Speaker 2: thank you again for the time. Thanks for listening to this.

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