Speaker 1: Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome to Minny Crush the two Days Before Christmas edition.
Speaker 1: It is December, is it? It's not really, we're doing
Speaker 1: the podcast time thing. It's really December four? Did I
Speaker 1: just ruin it for everyone? Man? Not really? Did you
Speaker 1: like my Tim Allen? Ho ho ho ho? I don't
Speaker 1: get that? Remember, uh, Tim Allen Home Improvement? Another guy
Speaker 1: he would go, he would do that on home and
Speaker 1: would do that. Yeah. I never saw an episode of
Speaker 1: Home Improvement he would go. And I never saw the
Speaker 1: Santa Claus movies, which you're gonna shame me for having
Speaker 1: not seen Elf, and you haven't seen the Santa Claus.
Speaker 1: The Santa Claus always struck me as a children's movie.
Speaker 1: Isn't Elf kind of a children's movie? The Santa Claus?
Speaker 1: That's a good question, Chuck that it was a Disney film, Okay.
Speaker 1: I always thought of it as being kind of Elf, Like,
Speaker 1: I know, it's not as funny or as revered, but
Speaker 1: it's probably PG as well. I would say it had
Speaker 1: some you know, Tim Allen wasn't really a children's entertainer
Speaker 1: per se. Al Right, So the original Santa Claus movie
Speaker 1: was in n I was in my fifth year of college,
Speaker 1: so for me, it was not on my rate. For me,
Speaker 1: it was part of the fabric of my reality. And
Speaker 1: I think that may be the thing with me and Elf,
Speaker 1: like maybe I don't know, it's not in the of
Speaker 1: your reality. No, it is now clearly you've you've shoved
Speaker 1: it into the fabric of my reality pretty aggressively, might
Speaker 1: I add um? But no, I really want to see it.
Speaker 1: But the Santa Claus U I saw it in the theater,
Speaker 1: so I can't really speak to whether it's a good
Speaker 1: movie or not. It probably isn't if I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: be honest, No, I always try to be don't fucking lie.
Speaker 1: Hey man, it's Christmas. I would never what happens when
Speaker 1: you lie at Christmas? Does that? Does that not bode well?
Speaker 1: You get that lump? Yeah. I asked Ruby this morning
Speaker 1: and said, Ruby, so do you think you're going to
Speaker 1: be in Santa Claus's uh, naughty list or nice list?
Speaker 1: Because you know, sometimes you don't cooperate, and we're in
Speaker 1: a big phase of trying to get cooperation. So we're
Speaker 1: talking about a lot of the Santa card And she
Speaker 1: said m M. I think I'd be in both, she said,
Speaker 1: because sometimes I cooperate and sometimes I don't. So she's
Speaker 1: in the middle. Yeah, and very stute. She's probably in
Speaker 1: the naughty and nice list. How does that work? Though?
Speaker 1: It's gotta it's gotta shake out one way or the other. Santa,
Speaker 1: it's fake, no what she gets gifts, no matter what.
Speaker 1: All right, that's true. Do you think there was ever
Speaker 1: a parent that really went the full mile and like
Speaker 1: put like coal and the stocking and gave no presents? Oh?
Speaker 1: Probably in the old days, like in the thirties. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: although coal is expensive, that's true. That's true. They needed
Speaker 1: to heat their homes. Well, then you just take it
Speaker 1: and you know, it's more of the gift for the parents,
Speaker 1: really right for the household. Just take it out of
Speaker 1: the stock, out of the stocking, into the fire or
Speaker 1: the furnace. Yeah. What's that shirt you got on? So
Speaker 1: the shining doesn't say anything? Or is it just his face?
Speaker 1: I can't see the bottom, Okay, but I got it
Speaker 1: at the timber Line Lodge gift shop at the Portland,
Speaker 1: Oregon Airport, because the timber Line Lodge is the external
Speaker 1: uh for the at the timber Line Lodge store. They
Speaker 1: sell a lot of shining memorabilia and we're sitting a
Speaker 1: little key fobs for the over you know, like like
Speaker 1: a hotel key for Overlook. I got a bunch of those. Um.
Speaker 1: They have really great hats too. I always buy a
Speaker 1: hat there. The Portland Airport is pretty great. All the
Speaker 1: stuff they sell there is all super local. Even have
Speaker 1: like a whiskey kiosk of like this really pricey local
Speaker 1: whiskey and it's a really great airport duty free. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. It was quite expensive. I love those
Speaker 1: old motel key key chains. That's what it is. It's
Speaker 1: sort of like a diamond shade, the old piece of
Speaker 1: plastic or Buddy Gail the danger Oven. Coots sent me
Speaker 1: one does I say Coots? You did cos it was
Speaker 1: from Jaws and it referenced quint very It's very nice.
Speaker 1: I'll check it out. It's one of my favorite gifts.
Speaker 1: Digging through your drawers, No you're not, okay, fine, Well,
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to think of is what key I
Speaker 1: want to use it for because it can't fit in
Speaker 1: my pocket. Would be my everyday key for me. I
Speaker 1: used it as for an extra key that I would
Speaker 1: maybe give to guests. Okay, that's a good idea. But
Speaker 1: I don't have a key on my door anymore. You
Speaker 1: don't have any friends, so that was that was a joke.
Speaker 1: Obviously have all the friends in the world. Weirdly, harsh, No,
Speaker 1: I have a digital entry now in my house, so
Speaker 1: I don't have a key house key, and you don't
Speaker 1: exactly you just give a code. I have it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I give a code. I have my key fob for
Speaker 1: my car, and that's it. You don't even have a
Speaker 1: single don't have a shed, kind of shed, not one key.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with this is a fob? Well,
Speaker 1: like you said, give a well I could attach the
Speaker 1: code to a piece of paper. You need to buy
Speaker 1: a second home and make it your old just so
Speaker 1: you can use that key. That's a great idea. No,
Speaker 1: we're trying this log line and thing again because I
Speaker 1: screwed it up so bad last time. Oh wait, so
Speaker 1: you you were a little more clear in your instructions.
Speaker 1: I was this is what I said, mini crush. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's try this log line thing again, but with a
Speaker 1: Christmas angle, right, an original log line for a Christmas movie.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen yet. That's that's gonna be fun two sentences. Max,
Speaker 1: I was very specifically, that's that's how you do it there, Chuck,
Speaker 1: well done. Jonathan Cooley says a jaded retail executive finds
Speaker 1: himself perpetually reliving the same Christmas Eve. It's Christmas for ever.
Speaker 1: That's very funny, not bad. It's sort of a combination
Speaker 1: of uh ebenee'z are Scrooge wonderful Life and it's a
Speaker 1: wonderful life and groundhog Day. Yeah, kind of coolie good idea.
Speaker 1: Groundhog Day is kind of a Christmas movie, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Uh not at all. It's not do on groundhog Day. No,
Speaker 1: but isn't it that being Christmasy at some point? No? No,
Speaker 1: it takes place. Yeah, that's right. It might feel that
Speaker 1: way because because of the snow. There's a lot of snow,
Speaker 1: and there's a isn't there like a like a snow
Speaker 1: globe situation in it or something? Now I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: st elsewhere. I'm just gonna let you do this, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what go on with the with your game,
Speaker 1: your reindeer game. Joshua Hall says Carol is the last
Speaker 1: person on Earth who believes in Santa, and she's got
Speaker 1: twelve days to keep Christmas alive. Twelve days of Christmas, Carol.
Speaker 1: These are good. It's pretty good boy, Christmas Carol. Hollywood,
Speaker 1: are you listening. Hollywood's always listening. They have spies, Mike
Speaker 1: Mead says, dash or Dancer, Prancer and Vixen. Do you
Speaker 1: know the story of Sprinter? Is this like sponsored content
Speaker 1: for sprint? No? I think uh. I think it's just
Speaker 1: maybe a new reindeer, new reindeer that no one knows about.
Speaker 1: So here we go. This could be fun. We could
Speaker 1: add a little bit of detail of these, so maybe Sprinter.
Speaker 1: It's almost like an Elf type story where there's sort
Speaker 1: of a fish out of water kind of situation where
Speaker 1: Sprinter is the reindeer that was for the time for
Speaker 1: good because Sprinter like took off and did his own thing,
Speaker 1: and now sprinters back and wants a piece of the action. Okay,
Speaker 1: not bad, something like that. Sure, I don't know. Just
Speaker 1: spitball in here, chuck it all right. It's like Rudolph
Speaker 1: the Red Nose Reindeer meets uh boondock Saints. I love that. Yes,
Speaker 1: maybe Sprinter two. He's got a hard edge to him,
Speaker 1: and the other reindeers kind of don't like his vibe
Speaker 1: because he's a little aggressive. He smokes a lot, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he harasses the female reindeer, he really does. He's a
Speaker 1: real jerk. He's a real jerk. He's almost like a
Speaker 1: Gordon Gecko type figure. Maybe that's it. He went off
Speaker 1: and made his fortune on Wall Street, uh, and then
Speaker 1: came back because maybe he went bust, but he doesn't.
Speaker 1: But he's not telling anybody that that's what it is.
Speaker 1: He lost everything because he was a jerk and he
Speaker 1: had a real coke problem. But he comes back and
Speaker 1: he still got that one nice suit. He's got that
Speaker 1: one nice suit, and he tries to make everyone think
Speaker 1: that he's coming back you know, for his own for like,
Speaker 1: you know, to to be part of the family. But
Speaker 1: he's actually broke and he's got and now he's trying
Speaker 1: to hustle his way into being one of the replace Rudolph.
Speaker 1: Perhaps I don't know. Yeah, And Vixen finds him out
Speaker 1: and he's like, you can't tell anybody like I need this. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well this is good. All right. Next let me see here.
Speaker 1: I wanna the Seth Seth McFarland. Sean McFarland, top fan,
Speaker 1: forget the naught of your nice list for this Killer
Speaker 1: Santa that was Live or Die. It's more of a tagline.
Speaker 1: But that's good. It's like Saw meets Santa Claus. That's good.
Speaker 1: This is good. This is good stuff. Guys. David Gooch,
Speaker 1: the Gooch, one of our oldest friends, says, okay, but
Speaker 1: I got five words for you. Gritty Santa Claus origin story,
Speaker 1: Santa Claus meets Joker. That's pretty good. What what what
Speaker 1: would it be? Do you think? Mm hmm would it
Speaker 1: be well, you'd have to make the North Pole sort
Speaker 1: of a hard scrabble, which it would be. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: You know you don't live in the North Pole in
Speaker 1: the lap of luxury, right, you know you're it's it's
Speaker 1: a survival game. Yeah, yeah, people are. There's only so
Speaker 1: much wood and coal to go around exactly. So the cartel,
Speaker 1: the coal cartel, cole cartels get involved. That's when that's
Speaker 1: when it gets crazy. Yeah. I like it in Santa.
Speaker 1: And also what happens is, you know with the uh,
Speaker 1: you only get so much sunlight, so everyone starts skill
Speaker 1: crazy snow blind snow blind, snow Blind, the Santa Claus story,
Speaker 1: the story of Chris Kringle, and that's spelled with Kay's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Deutsche Santa Claus, which is the O G. Right, it's
Speaker 1: the O G. Yeah. Uh. Let me see here. J
Speaker 1: Fraser creepy Santa movie. He sees you when you're sleeping,
Speaker 1: but other times too. I love that. Not No more
Speaker 1: needs to be said about that. Not bad. Patrick Gorman,
Speaker 1: one of our oldest friends, says, Santa's daughter has to
Speaker 1: take over Christmas because her brother, who was supposed to
Speaker 1: take over the family business, is missing. She learns the
Speaker 1: darker side of Christmas by trying to find out trying
Speaker 1: to find her rebellious brother. This is like all the
Speaker 1: movies we've been talking about. Come mind, Yeah, why is
Speaker 1: everyone going dark? There's a mystery here though, so I
Speaker 1: love the mystery element to it. And yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: my imaginations running wild here, Chuck, Okay, let's keep going
Speaker 1: with this. This is good. Mike interest, and I think
Speaker 1: this first time we've heard from Mike Welcome. A screenwriter
Speaker 1: crowd sources ideas for a movie through his podcast Influence
Speaker 1: until the Spirit of Christmas changes his way. That's what
Speaker 1: we're doing right now. That's what we're doing right now.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's very meta. I like that.
Speaker 1: Let me see this is not bad, har Old. Friend
Speaker 1: Melinda Beclau says, careful with that ax, because this year
Speaker 1: Christmas trees are fighting back sentient evil Christmas trees. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good. Like the trees from The Wizard of Oz
Speaker 1: that's always scared the shift out of me as a kid.
Speaker 1: Imagine them like rooting out of the ground and then
Speaker 1: their big root feet coming at you. There's a new
Speaker 1: Hulu show coming up about a creepy tree. Yeah, keep going,
Speaker 1: I'll find it. Let me see here. Some of these
Speaker 1: are taglines, but that's okay, Brian Long, The tradition of
Speaker 1: Christmas is dying. A group of hip city dwellers rediscover
Speaker 1: the magic of having a winter celebration. The burden of
Speaker 1: shopping has gone, and a new level of life experiences
Speaker 1: is discovered that includes their families that they're trying to escape. Okay,
Speaker 1: not bad. Into the Dark uncovers the horrors of the
Speaker 1: IDEs of March in Creepy Treehouse All this is the
Speaker 1: same one I saw an ad like on Instagram where
Speaker 1: it was literally a creepy tree kind of lurking over
Speaker 1: a little girl. Interesting. I just it just struck me
Speaker 1: as like that hasn't been done. We did talk about
Speaker 1: the tree in Evil Dad, which did not age well,
Speaker 1: do not. Let's do a couple of more of these.
Speaker 1: Tony Klutwik says, due to climate change, Santa has to
Speaker 1: move to a colder place, so he relocates to the
Speaker 1: heart of a ruthless politician. With Santa in his heart,
Speaker 1: the politician slowly becomes a better person and changes his
Speaker 1: evil ways. That's pretty good. Interesting. What are the steaks though, Like,
Speaker 1: does he have to kind of like, you know, is
Speaker 1: he's wrestling with this this possession at first, like he's
Speaker 1: not fully Probably he probably wakes up with heartburn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how you comically show it. And then he finds
Speaker 1: himself doing nice things and it's like, what the fun
Speaker 1: is going on? Almost like a liar liar situation exactly.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like this liar liar meets innerspace meets
Speaker 1: the Santa Claus meets Interstellar. No, all right, let's do
Speaker 1: one more. There's a lot of horror things that Santa
Speaker 1: killing people. I don't like that. Everyone can we spoil
Speaker 1: Silent Night, Deadly Night real quick. Was it a Santa
Speaker 1: character that was doing it? Was he dressed up as Santa?
Speaker 1: I don't know he saw it though I thought no, no,
Speaker 1: I saw black black Christmas. Was there a Santa figure
Speaker 1: in that one? It was just Christmas, just Christmas time
Speaker 1: in a sorority house. I don't know about Silent Night,
Speaker 1: Deadly Night. I feel like there was a Santa esque
Speaker 1: killer dressed up as Santa and that one. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna finish up with let me see here, Lisa Romana,
Speaker 1: one of our oldest friends. In the year twenty two
Speaker 1: twenty the newly Christmas established Mars Human Colony is having
Speaker 1: its first Christmas. Not bad so far, and an unforeseen
Speaker 1: twist to the usual preparations. An unusual red spacecraft lands
Speaker 1: led by twelve very strange looking creatures. I love it, Lisa,
Speaker 1: I like it too, fantastic. Somebody just occurred to me, Um,
Speaker 1: there aren't a whole lot of really big budget Christmas movies.
Speaker 1: I think they're sort of considered like throw away seasonal fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like maybe we'll put fifteen million into this and then
Speaker 1: maybe it'll, like, you know, make a little bit of
Speaker 1: money over the holidays. Maybe at the very best it'll
Speaker 1: become like an ELF cult classic that has loved It
Speaker 1: was like two million bucks and continues to which is rare.
Speaker 1: Though for Christmas movies, they're usually a flash in the
Speaker 1: pan and they're gone, right, it's rare to have a
Speaker 1: smash hit. I think those Santa Claus movies were smashed it,
Speaker 1: and they were there was a sequel, so that's, you know,
Speaker 1: a good sign, Like there's one that just came out
Speaker 1: that I've already. It's already. I think it's just called
Speaker 1: Last Christmas, which is a reference to I think the
Speaker 1: Wham song of the same name, gave you my very
Speaker 1: next day, you gave it away, gave it away. But
Speaker 1: it has a denarious targ Arian in it from a
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones, and it it appeared to have fizzled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you might be right there. Will Ferrell was
Speaker 1: offered about thirty million bucks to do an Elf sequel
Speaker 1: and he said no because like he just wanted to
Speaker 1: let it ride. I think he was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he just said, let's just not let's just not
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I like I got all the respect
Speaker 1: in the world for that job. I do too. I
Speaker 1: think Jon Vava wanted to do it even he went, man, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. No, it's really kind of a
Speaker 1: perfect little little Christmas. Let it be what it is.
Speaker 1: Let it be what it is. All right, We're gonna
Speaker 1: finish up and all with what's the most overrated Christmas movie?
Speaker 1: And why? I know your answer is elf, I can't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even do you have one? I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I know you don't like Christmas films in general,
Speaker 1: so you probably find most of them overrated. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I don't. There's so few of them that I
Speaker 1: even cross my radar. Like Christmas Story I find to
Speaker 1: be fun. Um. It sure seems like they hold it
Speaker 1: in really high esteem over there at TBS because they
Speaker 1: had play it on a loop every year. Um. And
Speaker 1: that's really the only way I've seen it. I think
Speaker 1: I've said this before on the show. I've never seen
Speaker 1: it in one sitting, from beginning to end. I've just
Speaker 1: seen it piecemeal, like in a weird kind of jigsaw
Speaker 1: puzzle order. You know you're not into Christmas movies? Are
Speaker 1: you into Christmas? I like Christmas, but are you into Christmas? Okay,
Speaker 1: I like Christma. I'm just trying to get you know.
Speaker 1: I enjoy Christmas here, I enjoy Christmas. Just wondering if
Speaker 1: there was any any deep feelings that where you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, I really don't love it. I don't not
Speaker 1: love it. I especially love it with the kids and stuff. No,
Speaker 1: and then you're making me question my my, my. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not not trying to do that. I just want
Speaker 1: to make sure everyone knows everything about you, all of
Speaker 1: everything in my deepest, darkest Christmas secrets. Grant what he says.
Speaker 1: Polar Express digital Animation's best example of uh, why not
Speaker 1: to lean too hard into the realm of realistic characters
Speaker 1: creepy and off putting. I didn't see it speaking of that,
Speaker 1: if you watched The Irishman, yeah, uh not yet. It's
Speaker 1: very good, but there's a couple of moments where you're
Speaker 1: too weird with a very early on and then and
Speaker 1: then you forget about it or they start being much
Speaker 1: more subtle about it. But when the characters are like
Speaker 1: meant to be super young, it looks like a video
Speaker 1: game cut scene. It's a little weird, and it's like
Speaker 1: a Scorsese directed video game cut scene. It's very good though.
Speaker 1: It's very very good film, and and y'all movie crushers
Speaker 1: call me on that if you think it was a
Speaker 1: non issue. Obviously didn't affect my enjoyment of the overall picture.
Speaker 1: Case he's seen it four times. Yeah, so that's like
Speaker 1: fourteen hours of watching that. I don't fully understand. I
Speaker 1: thought it was good, but I thought it was just
Speaker 1: very Scorsese like, because he's kind of got a formula
Speaker 1: guy's got, and that's why I thought it was kind
Speaker 1: of like bullshit when he's like calling out the Marvel
Speaker 1: movies for not being cinema when they take a lot
Speaker 1: of cues from his formula. Guardians of the Galaxy with
Speaker 1: all the seventies music and the big you know, um
Speaker 1: you know scenes and montages using all of like seventies music,
Speaker 1: totally a nod Discorssy. I don't understand where he's coming
Speaker 1: from when he's saying that, when he himself has made
Speaker 1: the same kind of gangster picture over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. They're all great, but I just think it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black. Alright,
Speaker 1: hot take contake everybody, uh. Nick Kelly says it's a
Speaker 1: wonderful life. It's only popular because of a copyright issue
Speaker 1: that granted its exposure. Didn't you point that out recently?
Speaker 1: I learned that recently. It's maybe, but what the deal
Speaker 1: was was like it got buried and then it didn't
Speaker 1: get good reviews. At the time, it wasn't a success,
Speaker 1: and then it got I think it like it's copyright
Speaker 1: had expired or it was in the public domain, and
Speaker 1: so a television station and started playing it every year
Speaker 1: for Christmas, and it became this because it's not even
Speaker 1: a Christmas set story. I think there's Christmas in it,
Speaker 1: isn't there. I don't know. This guy said it's not
Speaker 1: even a Christmas movie, but that's that's basically He's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: There is a like the copyright it entered into the
Speaker 1: public domain, I think, and then uh TV station was
Speaker 1: able to play it without paying for it, and it
Speaker 1: and it became kind of this like new cult kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Mike Burdette says, this thread breaks my heart.
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha. It's definitely the Santa clause. Tim Allen
Speaker 1: is not and has never been funny. It's a miracle
Speaker 1: he didn't ruin Galaxy Quest well, Mike, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: with you. I never thought Tim Allen was very funny,
Speaker 1: but that's my cold heart, Lisa. To share a one
Speaker 1: of our old friends is love. Actually it's boring and
Speaker 1: neither romantic nor heartwarming. Okay, people as your love it
Speaker 1: them holding up those cards. They hold up those cards.
Speaker 1: That's all I know about. I don't know anything, but
Speaker 1: there's a thing about holding up cards with things written
Speaker 1: on them. That's it. Yeah. That guy that plays the
Speaker 1: dude in The Walking Dead is in it. Um who
Speaker 1: plays Rick in the Walking the Sheriff, Yeah, Lucas something. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he's good. He's good. He would de Porchfest one year.
Speaker 1: He's around all over town. Let me see here, A
Speaker 1: bunch of people are saying it's a wonderful life. Ah.
Speaker 1: Rachel mccafee says, truly overrated is and everyone talks about
Speaker 1: them being so good and musties, but they're actually boring
Speaker 1: and underwhelming. Wonderful life and White Christmas. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: White Christmas. Which one is that I haven't seen a
Speaker 1: lot of these old school ones. Yeah, what about Miracle
Speaker 1: On I haven't seen that either. Yeah, that one involves
Speaker 1: like the Santa Claus you don't think is real, but
Speaker 1: then spoiler alerties he's real. I have no I think
Speaker 1: that's the deal. They remade that one a couple of
Speaker 1: times too, I believe. Kayla mh one of our oldest friends,
Speaker 1: says a Christmas Story, I don't like a single character
Speaker 1: in the whole movie, and I don't understand why people
Speaker 1: love it. You know you like what you like. Everyone
Speaker 1: another vote. Maria Basquez A Christmas Story. I hate that
Speaker 1: god damn movie so much. Makes me want to rip
Speaker 1: my hair out when they play it for twenty four hours. Wow,
Speaker 1: all right. Patrick Gorman, one of our old friends, is
Speaker 1: Nightmare before Christmas. No, that's a good one. That's one.
Speaker 1: That's that's one that I I love. I love it.
Speaker 1: He says. This is his crit the hot topicization of
Speaker 1: that movie took it further into the zeitgeists and ever
Speaker 1: deserved on its own merits. I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1: I don't like the hot topic ization of it, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but it's a feat of animation, uh genius.
Speaker 1: I mean just the fact that they chose to do
Speaker 1: a movie that way and sort of set the tone
Speaker 1: for all of the cool like like a Studios and
Speaker 1: you know, Henry Selleck is the animator that did all that,
Speaker 1: you know, based on Tim Burton's vision. And the music
Speaker 1: is great. It's a fun movie. It's a romp. I've
Speaker 1: never seen it, what are you kidding me? It's great watch.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of Christmas movies I haven't seen
Speaker 1: now that I think of it. It's beautiful too, because
Speaker 1: it's a hybrid. It's if you don't like Christmas, you
Speaker 1: got your Halloween. Yeah, do you know what my deal is?
Speaker 1: And all is I can't. I really love Christmas and
Speaker 1: I get into the spirit of it, but I can't
Speaker 1: watch fifteen of those movies. You know, that's too much.
Speaker 1: Like I watch a three Christmas movies a year, and
Speaker 1: they're always elf a Christmas story and uh maybe one
Speaker 1: of the healthy green stool Christmas. I just think I
Speaker 1: can't take too much of it. Ruby's a little too
Speaker 1: young for a Nightmare because it's a little dark at times.
Speaker 1: But I think she'll really like it when she turns
Speaker 1: maybe like six or something like. Yeah, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: really cool. Well, there's a whole world awaiting her, big
Speaker 1: time of movies. You can't wait. You guys got Disney
Speaker 1: plus yet Oh yeah, yeah, we've been We've been watching
Speaker 1: a lot of Disney contin a lot of good content there.
Speaker 1: It is. It's good, you know. I'm I'm all in favorite.
Speaker 1: Say what you will about Disney, but um, they do
Speaker 1: have a lot of good stuff, true, even if they
Speaker 1: just bought some of it. Our old friend Debbie Franga
Speaker 1: Duka says, they're all kind of the pits. It's time
Speaker 1: for some new, better holiday movies. WELLI Gennevan Valen, one
Speaker 1: of our old friends. Live Action Grinch, the original cartoon
Speaker 1: is pretty flawless. Uh, and it didn't need a remake
Speaker 1: or reimagining. I like the live action Grinch with Jim Carey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. My my daughter's baby sister. Um
Speaker 1: sounds confusing. Uh, they call me Uncle Nolan, my daughter's
Speaker 1: mom's uh new baby. Um. They she calls that movie
Speaker 1: Spooky Grinch, spooky Grinch, spooky Grinch because he's he's a
Speaker 1: little creepy. Sure. Stelln Carlson's has Die Hard for sure
Speaker 1: gets a lot of quaint eighties and the Salzer point
Speaker 1: nostalgia points, but the end is just a basic trope
Speaker 1: filled action movie, nothing more. Oh my god Stelen. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say our relationship is over, but that
Speaker 1: puts a dent into First of all, I think it's
Speaker 1: still up for debate as to whether that's a Christmas
Speaker 1: movie or not. Well, I think we settled that last
Speaker 1: year when we had the writer say it's a Christmas
Speaker 1: he said it. Well, he did say that. Yeah, on
Speaker 1: your show he read a letter. That's right. Yeah, our show,
Speaker 1: somebody read the yes. I'm sorry, I was confusing. I
Speaker 1: read it on our own show. This one here that
Speaker 1: I don't expect you remember last year and all you
Speaker 1: don't remember last week. That's not Chuck, that's unkind. That's
Speaker 1: unkind Chuck, and I take great issue with that. Let
Speaker 1: me see here, Mike Doyle, Love actually is such a
Speaker 1: piece of trite piece of I'm sorry, I need to
Speaker 1: get this right. Love actually is such a trite piece
Speaker 1: of shallow nonsense that holds up some of the most
Speaker 1: unhealthy and selfish relationships as this wonderful thing and the
Speaker 1: nine eleven part that's just I mean, come on, there's
Speaker 1: a nine eleven part. I don't know, man, I've never
Speaker 1: seen it. That seems messed up. A lot of people
Speaker 1: are hating on Polar Express as well. Molly Thibodeaux. I
Speaker 1: can't even get myself to watch it all the way through.
Speaker 1: And I've tried creepy animation in the Uncanny Valley. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that was early too, in those days. It was
Speaker 1: it wasn't that Zemeckis. He really was into that for
Speaker 1: like a minute. He did like a baowolf for him
Speaker 1: two and then kind of abandoned it because it was
Speaker 1: because everyone hates spooky trash. Yeah, it wasn't good trash.
Speaker 1: It was good. That is pretty good. Um Yeah that No,
Speaker 1: I'm that's so not into that at all. Yeah. Let
Speaker 1: animation be animation, Let it be stylized. That's the whole point. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: pay actors. You know A miracle and thirty fourth Street.
Speaker 1: That's from Jessica Dalba. She says, only because I can
Speaker 1: never stay awake. Zach pointer elf there, I said at
Speaker 1: the premises, just too far out there and acting as blah,
Speaker 1: too far out there. That seems like an oddly uh
Speaker 1: it's weird antic comment there. Who is this? It's one
Speaker 1: of our old pal Zack pointers. I'm sorry, Zach, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure the best everyone's allowed a dumb opinion every
Speaker 1: now and well, you know our opinions. You know what
Speaker 1: they say, No, everyone's got him like butts. Is that
Speaker 1: the same, you know opinions, everyone's got them like but yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that. It sounds like how Ruby would summarize
Speaker 1: that quote. Yeah, I have the mind of a three
Speaker 1: year old, except she would say but cheeks. Uh. Let
Speaker 1: me see. One of our old friends, Luke Harkle wrote says,
Speaker 1: Christmas Vacations some really funny moments, but overall it just
Speaker 1: doesn't work for me. Christmas Vacations when I watch yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so maybe there's like four that I see. You give
Speaker 1: that one a shot. Christmas Vacation. I saw a vacation
Speaker 1: the first one watched on a plane, and I didn't
Speaker 1: like it. I didn't love it. I didn't love it,
Speaker 1: um hey man, no shame and not liking Chevy Chase. Hey,
Speaker 1: I just I just didn't like. There's so much you know,
Speaker 1: build up over over it that I was like expecting
Speaker 1: to be like blown away. I also didn't love Animal House.
Speaker 1: I think it's like a style of comedy that maybe
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's been improved upon, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's a little bit of its time. But
Speaker 1: I also I love mel Brooks movies and I love
Speaker 1: that comedy, so it occupies some middle ground kind of
Speaker 1: It's definitely not mel Brooks. No, it's not. It's much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I think, uh, well, you haven't
Speaker 1: seen it yet, but Jojo Rabbit has a bit of
Speaker 1: mel Brooks DNA. I can see that coursing through. I
Speaker 1: cancent see that it's from the trailer, which resolutely very
Speaker 1: much something we need more of these days. All right,
Speaker 1: let's finish it off here with Brian Thomas. He has
Speaker 1: a nice little rant on love. Actually, I think it's overhyped.
Speaker 1: I think there's some gross and cream piece stuff in there.
Speaker 1: I can forgive the unrealistic parts because it's full of
Speaker 1: Christmas magic and evolves those rom com tropes like meat cutes.
Speaker 1: That's all fine, but that wedding filmer needs to get
Speaker 1: his ship together and stop stalking his friend's wife. Be
Speaker 1: a professional man. And the dude he leaned on his
Speaker 1: British accident just accent to seduce for women at once.
Speaker 1: They made the women out to be such idiots based
Speaker 1: on outdated stereotypes, and they're running through the airport thing
Speaker 1: was so overdone even then. Anyway, I feel better getting
Speaker 1: that off my chest. Now is it Andrew Lincoln that
Speaker 1: does the British accent? Because he is British? He he
Speaker 1: plays you know, he's the guy that plays uh the
Speaker 1: sheriff on on Walking Dead because he's in fact a
Speaker 1: brit I wonder if it's him. I don't know. And
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't even want to see this
Speaker 1: movie now now, I I've I've never really I don't
Speaker 1: like rom coms really so it is much beloved though
Speaker 1: by many people, and it seems like equally hated. It
Speaker 1: does seem that way, very divisive film. Who is that?
Speaker 1: Alan Rickman, Laura Lenny, who like her it says it's
Speaker 1: a pretty much crazy cast. I mean Mr Bean who
Speaker 1: directed it? Is someone super famous and uh, I don't
Speaker 1: know directed by Oh Hugh Grants. He didn't directed it,
Speaker 1: he's in it. Richard Curtis directed it. And what else
Speaker 1: did he do? Let me see here the Bridget Jones
Speaker 1: diary kind of situation he did, notting Hill, he four
Speaker 1: weddings in a funeral, all of those Hugh Grant romcom
Speaker 1: Jam's Bridget Jones. Mr Bean Okay, I get it, Mama Mia.
Speaker 1: He's that guy. He is that guy. Well, good for him.
Speaker 1: He's a big time director. He does appear to be
Speaker 1: so alright, No, I think that's all the time we have. Uh,
Speaker 1: since it's December, we want to which everyone a very
Speaker 1: happy holiday. And as we always like to remind people,
Speaker 1: hollidays are very tough for some people, uh in a
Speaker 1: profound way. And we are thinking about you for sure,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, reach out to someone if you
Speaker 1: need to talk this Christmas and if you have a wonderful, loving,
Speaker 1: supportive family and you love Christmas, just um be thankful
Speaker 1: and grateful for that. Yeah, And I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: always easy to think, oh, I'm gonna burden somebody. I
Speaker 1: don't want anybody. I don't want to like be a imposition.
Speaker 1: But I guarantee you of the time that's not how
Speaker 1: other people see it. And people are always happy to
Speaker 1: be reached out to and uh, you know, asked to
Speaker 1: extend a helping hand of conversation, especially especially at that
Speaker 1: time of Yeah. All right, so merry Christmas and happy
Speaker 1: holidays everyone, however you choose to celebrate, and Merry Christmas
Speaker 1: to you KNOWL to you as well. Chuck and I
Speaker 1: We'll see you in January. You got it. For more
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