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Speaker 3: This one's a special for Red Sox fans out there

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Speaker 3: while we have a moment. Full Throttle was the theme

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Speaker 3: Jason Aldean, Did I say it right? I look at

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Speaker 3: me as a full Throttle tour in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: I don't think he actually came up with this because

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a star. They're going to get the

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Speaker 4: I doubt I doubt it has anything to do with

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Speaker 1: But are you do? You work for the Red Sox,

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Speaker 4: Man, they they got the Monster. It's super cool. Everyone

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Speaker 1: Yes, centerfielder, that's what you're looking. That's what you want

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Speaker 1: just saying this this year did change.

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Speaker 3: The tendant started to take.

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Speaker 3: Well compared to last year, compared to last year, but

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Speaker 3: our expectations have been lowered, which sucks. See what happens. Yes,

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Speaker 3: all right, we got Pap. Look at the company man,

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Speaker 3: How you doing, How you doing? Good to see you, Pap.

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Speaker 3: It's been a minute. You got a good crew here.

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Speaker 3: Today we're gonna be like serious and dive into these

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Speaker 3: our questions, right because fans want these previews that we're doing.

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Speaker 3: But before that, I mean, we gotta get to the

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Speaker 2: Book it.

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Speaker 3: And that was in response to yesterday Derek Lewandowski Kinstrict

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean, I love Derek. I think he's a

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Speaker 2: I mean I've pressed, We've all pressed in certain times.

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Speaker 1: Hey, and I want everybody to know papal Ban keeps

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Speaker 3: Well, we love our friends, then I love that.

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Speaker 5: Where would you rank this Al East? So for me,

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Speaker 3: I'll just add a caveat save your Red Sox stuff though,

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Speaker 3: because we'll do storylines, but rest of Ale East and

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Speaker 2: he's gonna give the Toronto Blue Jays ten plus wins

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Speaker 3: It's a good call and that's perfect way to start

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Speaker 3: on what we're going to talk about here. It's been

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Speaker 3: What about the ETA for their top three prospects, Meyer,

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Speaker 3: We'll see, all right, Pap, Let's start at the top

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Speaker 3: three years since the Red Sox made the postseason, is

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Speaker 3: if no, why.

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Speaker 2: Well yes, just strictly because of what they've been able

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you said that because you're wearing your company man shirt.

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Speaker 1: I got I get what you I get where you're at.

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Speaker 5: That's incredible. Good for you that. Now let's go. Let's

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Speaker 3: Dang wow, we love to hear it, Trevor. You know

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Speaker 3: a thing or two you want to comment on that

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Speaker 4: I agree with that, fol I agree with that fully.

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Speaker 4: Kenley Jensen, Raldas Chatman, a new acquisition, We've got Hendricks

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Speaker 4: We're not thinking about that. You think you know you're

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Speaker 2: So that's a great point, Treil. But you know, for

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Speaker 2: You paid him to be your closer. He's gonna be

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Speaker 2: When one gets in a slump, you just insert the

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Speaker 2: it gonna be a great bullpen? No, it's not gonna

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Speaker 2: you know as well as I do, come playoff time,

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Speaker 2: everybody needs bullpen help. So as of right now, that's

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Speaker 1: good communication, But how do you address that, like, hey, Liam, sorry, dog,

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Speaker 2: Alex Corp, in my opinion, as a teammate when I

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Speaker 2: don't think Hendrix is. You know what I know of him,

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Speaker 2: if he's not the closer. I don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: oh damn, I should be closing, you know. I think

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Speaker 3: Hey, I want to relate it to a current situation

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Speaker 3: It sounded like including their GM and manager when they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I've been through that situation. I've

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Speaker 2: I've had everyone from Bobby Jinks to your new Hall

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Speaker 2: I think that's a part of him where he's got

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I didn't even know yees, sorry, I got one more.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that you played with Billy. Anything you

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Speaker 1: you got them? Because that was his second to last season,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not wrong.

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Speaker 3: La last time, last oh seconds, the big, big chance

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, what do you what do you what

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Speaker 2: So Wagon's was great. So I've had everyone from you know,

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Speaker 2: But the one thing that I loved about Billy is

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Speaker 2: Then I get a text it says, hey, Pat, it

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do. I'm not here to take a job.

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Speaker 2: I'm here to pitch. When I pitched, and I said

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Speaker 3: That's cool. Well, yeah, I've been a big fan for years.

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Speaker 1: Cool that he got. He was a Red Sox little

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Speaker 1: in paper. You are, you're you're just connecting, you're connecting errors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Bacon, what do you call that? Six degrees?

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Speaker 2: And what is it called?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, six degrees that's the temperature that Scott eaton stakes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'll take that as a compliment Pap, good talking

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