1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Good morning, Sweet Wirl, and welcome to the Nodunks Podcast 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel Wednesday May twenty seventh, twenty twenty six. 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeets here on the Classic Factory and alongside 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: me as always task. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Mel Podcast listeners, this is for you. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot Hot booy, Trey 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: Kirby Ao heyo, and over Yonder right over there making 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: the magic happen. 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But first, 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: the Thunder bounced back from their worst game of the 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: season to take a three to two lead over the 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: Spurs in the Western Conference Finals last night. Shay Gilders 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: Alexander led the way with thirty two points. Sort of 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: a weird SGA game, while okc's defense made life very 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: difficult for Victor Webinyama, who then skipped postgame media availability 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: that yeah, so a strange game. But in the end, 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: thunderwin one twenty seven and they're gonna have two chances 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: tasked to go to the NBA Finals. 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: Again, super strange game. You said the word smash earlier 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: when you talk podcasts all and you pointed all I 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: could think about was flashing back to pregame yesterday with 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: Kelvin Johnson right in Wemby's face, trying to get him 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: pumped up. Something going on there in terms of Wemby's health, right, 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: because I mean, I'm definitely speculating, but Wemby doesn't need that. 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: And then you come out and he just wasn't himself. 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: He took two shots at the RAM in the first half, 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: just two shots, I thought, Chet took a shot right 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: over him for four minutes left in the first quarter. 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: Now this is me being totally speculative. But earlier in 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: the possession, Wenby put his hand to his mouth. He 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: looked like a cough, like a something, and maybe I'm 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 2: breaching definitely, yeah, yeah, wellah, more sickness than hurt. Nests 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: that it felt like to me. But he just obviously 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: wasn't right. You get three guys score twenty points on 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: your team, you score one hundred and fourteen points and 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: you still can't win Defensively, they definitely weren't right themselves 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: and be part of it against Shay Gildes Alexander who 44 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: who got better as the game went on. But yeah, 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: the whole thing, obviously, the Thunder depth was awesome, just 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: straight up awesome, the way they were able to produce. 47 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: Eight guys had a bucket in that second quarter on 48 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: their team, so they kept going. Yeah, the whole weeby 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: thing just threw them off. I think, I mean he 50 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: literally I'm speculating, but. 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: He's in a dace or gassed or sick or something. 52 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: I think everybody agree with you. I mean it dud. Yeah, 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: he laid an egg. Yeah, first Yeah, playoff game of 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: his career, his young career. 55 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: And physically I thought the Thunder were pretty good with him. 56 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: I thought Jalen Williams minutes on the floor against him, 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: or Hertenstein or Holmgren or two seven footers they threw 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: at him. But yeah, he wasn't right. So I just 59 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: wanted to start on that side, it didn't feel right. 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: I had to start with Wenby because this was the 61 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: biggest takeaway from the game, is what's going on with 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: this guy? And then he ditches postgame press conferences as well, 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: just weird stuff from Wemby all around. It's easy to 64 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: forget at this point that this is his first time 65 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: through the playoffs, so every game he's playing is the 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: biggest game of his life. This is the first time 67 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: he's had a playoff failure. This is the first time 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: he's getting the media riled up by ditching out on 69 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: his obligations, like he had his first time getting too 70 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: physical against the timber Wolves when he elbowed NOAs read 71 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: in the throat, Like he's going to go through these 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: sort of growing pain type things. But I thought Jamal 73 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: Crawford nailed it when he said the Spurs are playing 74 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: not with emotion, They're playing emotional, and I thought that 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: described Wemby to a t. 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: There was that moment in the first. 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: Half when he just like goes out of his way 78 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: to bump into Chet Holmgren'm like, wait a second, You're 79 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: supposed to be in Chet's head, not the other way around. 80 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: But it was the other way around. 81 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: Last night, it felt like Wenby was trying to insert 82 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: himself into the game rather than assert himself in the game. 83 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: It was like, anytime there's a little bit of a 84 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: Spurs run, he's like, all right, I'm taking a three. 85 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Deal with it. 86 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm getting a shot up here. I'm trying to get 87 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: my own offense going. He didn't seem to be playing 88 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: a super team game, I didn't think last night, and 89 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: just in general, it felt like the moment was a 90 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: little bit too big to the Spurs with me. They 91 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: seemed to be living and dying with every single shot 92 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: they took, and that's just not a way you can 93 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 3: keep your head against a very experienced team like the Thunder. 94 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: A minus eight for Wenby last night. It's the first 95 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: time he's been a minus in a game that he 96 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: finished since March first, So this is his worst game 97 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: in three months. And guess what the Spurs lost. 98 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, four fifteen. 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: Four, game five on the road in the playoffs, if 100 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: that means anything, but yeah, the effort level wasn't there. 101 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: Like that homegrin bucket shot over him. He didn't even 102 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: jump for that one. 103 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: A lot of guy scored overast night. 104 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're taking it to him. 105 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: He even got dunked on though the basket did not count, 106 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: you know. Okay, so you're saying, okay, could be an illness. 107 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: Obviously this is a first for him. Could it be 108 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: at this point with how their schedule's gone here in 109 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: the postseason, these very intense physical games, fatigue getting to 110 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: him either physically even mentally a little bit at this 111 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: point or no, thank you so to that? Yeah, yeah, 112 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean I guess that about all of them, if 113 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: we're being honest, this series, like this was an ugly 114 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: ass game for a majority of this sloppy to start 115 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: sloppy in the second half. Now, a lot of it's 116 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: credit to the defensive intensity from everybody out there. There's 117 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: not a lot of like, oh, just go at that guy. 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody brings it. So, yeah, it's taking a 119 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: toll on them. I think Wemby included. But yeah, SGA 120 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: started poorly, just like Wemby. But luckily for him, everybody 121 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: else on the Thunder was contribute and coming through. You know, 122 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: Julian Champenne was doing his part for the Spurs to 123 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: keep him attached early. But let's go through some of 124 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: the performances from Okac besides SGA who I'm sure we'll 125 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: talk about it a bit later. But Caruso twenty two 126 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: points off the bench, I mean four of his five 127 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: midfield goals three pointers. 128 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: He would probably be the Conference Finals MVP if it 129 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: was over after last night. 130 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: Chet Holgren his best game of this series. I don't 131 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: think that's a stretch. Sixteen points, eleven rebounds, played with 132 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: some force. I loved in the second quarter when Chet 133 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: demanded the ball, he went up and actually said, give 134 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: me the damn ball. I'm going to drive by Luke Cornett. 135 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: It was like, WHOA, there you go. There's the chet Holngern. 136 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: We've sort of been waiting for. Isaiah Hartenstein, a monster. 137 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: A big part of YOMB obviously is kept in check 138 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: two along with Jellen Williams and Chet and everybody sort 139 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: of helping out. Twelve points, game high, fifteen rebounds, and 140 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: then Jared McCain thrown into the starting lineup. Would they 141 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: say this is his twelfth NBA start of his career 142 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: and here he is in a pivotal game five and 143 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: he adds twenty points. I thought he had actually a 144 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: brutal first half. He was like played off the floor. Yeah, 145 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, he was Obviously he's a trucker. He's going 146 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: to take a shot, that's fine, but he was like 147 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: getting exposed defensively. He had the rest of his teammates 148 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: like having to scramble to make up for his defensive mistakes. 149 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: He comes off. But then in the second half, Tk 150 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: like he started levitating there in the third quarter and 151 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: he's just unconscious. 152 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, the thunder won the minutes when Shaye was sitting in, 153 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: Wemby was playing, and it was mostly I thought because 154 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: of Jared McCain, especially in the second half. But we 155 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: were talking about things to look forward to in game 156 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: five and I said, who's the number two man? And 157 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: they got four number two performances because Chet really carried 158 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: the team. 159 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Especially in the first quarter when Shaye was struggling. 160 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: But I thought he played a pretty smart game, like 161 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: when he had a one on one, Shae would attack 162 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: and try and get his shots. 163 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: But I thought that he was also. 164 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: Doing a really good job of putting Wemby into a 165 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: ton of screen in rolls and like inviting two on 166 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: the ball. It's not necessarily a double team, but he's 167 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: keeping his dribble alive. Keeping his dribble alive. Wemby has 168 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: to come over and then he gets the ball to 169 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: somebody else. A lot of it was hard and Staff, 170 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: and a lot of it was Caruso. Those guys combined 171 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: for ten assists. They would just flip the ball to 172 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: the other side of the court and now McCain has 173 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: a chance to attack. It was really really smart the 174 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: way they went at Wemby actually put him into a 175 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: lot of actions and just kept the ball going side 176 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: to side and using that big man outlet. That was 177 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: really really smart by Mark Dagnall to figure out a 178 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: way to get them easy looks off of Shay actions. 179 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: And then when he had the ball, he was able 180 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: to score some In the second half, he got to 181 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: the line a lot. I'm sure we're going to talk 182 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: about the files for sure, but Caruso was special in 183 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 3: this game, a total gamer. Like I said, I think 184 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: he's probably the MVP for this team in this series 185 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: so far because the games he plays well, they're winning 186 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: for the most part, and he's doing his part on 187 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: the defensive end as well. You could just tell one 188 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: team was more experienced. This was a huge moment for everybody. 189 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: The home team, the more experienced team got great production 190 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: from all their role players, and almost all the stars 191 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: from San Antonio had bad games. Castle played well that's 192 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: about as second. 193 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Caruso was fun. When he steps on 194 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: that floor at home. It feels like he's a different 195 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: guy in that he went right at Wemby. He had 196 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: a turnaround on Fox. I mean, he just looked so 197 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: so good to make out for Jerry McCain's bad start. 198 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: Let's be quite honest. He went to the bench that 199 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: first time, had two turnovers, no points. He looked like 200 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: he was trying to get the offense started through him 201 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: rather than just play within the offense. At first, it 202 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: was ugly. I said, lou Dort was going to have 203 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: the first basket of this game. I thought it could happen, 204 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: but Jere McCain said, no, I'm just doing this and 205 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: then he turned it over because it was an ugly, 206 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: ugly play there. But then that rubbed off on him. 207 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: Caruso rubbed off on him. Chet just taking the opportunities 208 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: when they were there. I've got a shorter guy on me. 209 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: I think that wasn't a problem in the first four games. 210 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: Here's Denvisel gonna shoot over him. Here's Julian Champagnee going 211 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: to shoot over him, and then he started going at 212 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: Wemby and scoring at Wemby. Women didn't jump that one time, 213 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: and then he literally dunked through Wemby after a shot 214 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: clock expiration. So that was that was great. But yeah, 215 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: you're right in that Shay was smart in the way 216 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: he went to Caruso or whoever when guys would either 217 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: double when they kind of over were overwatched that the 218 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: back line was had that third set of eyes on him, 219 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: so used that skip pass to get it to Caruso 220 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 2: or they kind of underguarded him. There was that time 221 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 2: where Wemby was kind of in mid range, didn't it 222 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: wasn't double and hard, so he was able to get 223 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: she was able to give it to Hertenstein. There was 224 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: a lot of those. 225 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: He did such a good job of engaging Wemby on 226 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: the screens, like making Wemby have to guard him because 227 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: then they can actually play four on three on the 228 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: other side. 229 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: It was just really really savvy. 230 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought Wemby was just kind of caught 231 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: like do I go double real hard or not? And 232 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: now the guys paid off. Yeah, I mean Hertenstein obviously 233 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: the playoffs of his career. I mean, he just looks 234 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: like that outlet can be there at any time. Has 235 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: Shay ever been more sad on the bench, especially a 236 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: game with the scores this many points. He was on 237 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: the bench just not happy with himself. I mean he 238 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: was what it was. Oh yeah, he was just super 239 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: upset with himself. And he said it postgame. I mean 240 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: he didn't have a good game. 241 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: No, that's why he had the crazy, the weirdest thirty 242 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: two to nine game you're gonna see. Like I thought, 243 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: he actually played poorly for stretches of it, but then, 244 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: like you're saying, TK also had a command of the 245 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: game and a force still on the game and in 246 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: sort of getting to the free throw line, and you know, 247 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: there was a bonus situation. We'll get into the officiating 248 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: here in a second, but yeah, a strange, strange game. 249 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: And look, this was a missed opportunity for the Spurs 250 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: and Webby here, Like we haven't even said J Dubb 251 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: did not play. Sort of shocking. You know, he was 252 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: questionable leading up all throughout the day. We thought maybe 253 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: he'll give it a go. We knew AJ Mitchell wasn't 254 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: gonna play, so they're down two guys. We saw what 255 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: happened in game four, like, oh god, no second creator here, 256 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: they're in trouble. You're gonna hope for these guys to 257 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: play better at home, the Crusoes and Harnstein's and you're 258 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: hoping for Chet. But still, this was a prime opportunity 259 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: for the Spurs, of course, to take control of this series. 260 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: With those guys out now, I don't know if they're 261 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: even gonna turn it all in this series. So this 262 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: may just be the lineups we see, but pressive stuff 263 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: from everybody and Mark Dangnell pushing all the right buttons 264 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: in these lineups to take this five, to take the 265 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: three two leads. 266 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Joey mccainscores twenty points on nineteen shots, not 267 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: super efficient at all, but the guys that he pushed 268 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: the buttons off the bench were perfect. Kenrich Williams Williams, yeah, yeah, 269 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: hit two threes and he limited his minutes this time 270 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: in this game, just eleven minutes, but he splashed those 271 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: threes really important, and he didn't. 272 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: Play, by the way, in first two games of the series, 273 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: played what ninety seconds in Game three and then played 274 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: him a little in game four and he was solid. 275 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: We brought it up like, wow, Kenrich Williams was actually good, 276 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: so he saw something there from him. Yeah, let's get 277 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: a little more in this game five, and he obviously 278 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: went to him. 279 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: Earli There, No Isaiah Joe, no thank you, No Aaron 280 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: Wagans who couldn't have hit a shot in this series 281 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: so far? I mean, is Ajoel played a minute but 282 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: not a lot? Yeah? Garbage time there. So yeah, the 283 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: Buttons perfect. 284 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: Spurs might have had a chance to cut the deficit 285 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: as we got into the second half, but Tony Brothers 286 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: was on his bullshit there for a sequence here. He 287 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: missed a couple calls in the final minute of that quarter. 288 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: In the third right tip and try by Luke Cornette 289 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: with about fifty five seconds to go was knocked off 290 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: the rim by Cason Wallace. Should have been a goaltending yep. 291 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: Is that on Tony or is that on all of them? 292 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: That's all the officiating. But Tony Brothers is going to 293 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: get my wrath here because people told me he's a 294 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: Tier one referee. The players told me he's a Tier 295 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: one official. No he's not. He hasn't been for a 296 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: very long time anyway, so he missed that. He thought 297 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: we were playing feeble rules, as they said on the broadcast, 298 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: that would be legal in the summer, but not for 299 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: the NBA. And then on the spurs next possession, we 300 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: had the out of bounds call that should have gone 301 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: the Spurs way replays clearly showed it went off chat 302 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: Holmgren's foot. The Spurs tried to buy some time by 303 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: doing the old fake sub move that coaches are now doing, 304 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: where they have somebody pretend to come check in, so 305 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: it like gives maybe the iPad guys a chance to 306 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: relook at it or whatever. But then the rest even 307 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: huddled up. Yep, all right, Tony James, whoever the third 308 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: one was, they all got together and you're thinking, okay, 309 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: maybe they'll get this one right, but then they stuck 310 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: with the off Wemby and so miss Johnson was like, well, 311 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: hold on here, we know that's off chet and he's 312 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: like trying to do the old let's challenge it, and 313 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: he got ignored by James Capers on that one. James 314 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: Caper is like, oh, I was too old. Maybe you 315 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: couldn't hear him or something. He also didn't call time out. No, 316 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: what you have to do? 317 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't follow the correct hands to go to fall. 318 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: It's a tea followed by a swirl, not just a swirl. 319 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: But he was also complaining. 320 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: I guess that after they huddled up, there should be 321 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: like a challenge clock where I get thirty seconds to 322 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: decide if I want a challenge, because that usually happens. Yeah, 323 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: and they didn't give him that, so I thought. I 324 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: thought Mitch didn't go about it the right way, but 325 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: he still should have had the challenge honored. 326 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then insult to injury. Yeah. Miss Johnson then 327 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: gets slapped with a technical because he's arguing about all 328 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: of this and he's fired up and he's like, what 329 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: the hell you doing Tony, And Tony was the one 330 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: that game the technical. I think probably should have Tony, 331 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: you guys screwed up that one. Maybe let him get 332 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: it off his chest and then try and look the 333 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: other way. But anyway, look, that didn't decide the game. 334 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of free throws in this game, 335 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: Like it took a while to get to our first 336 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: free throw, and then it was like a free throw 337 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: parade in the second quarter. Seventy free throws in total. 338 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: Wow, oh gosh. 339 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, if they were getting paid by the whistle, it 340 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: was a good night. Yeah, but I mean I don't 341 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: think it favored one team more than the other at all. Like, 342 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of free throws, a lot, 343 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: SGA shot a lot, but this sequence was bad. 344 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: It was. It was very bad for the officials. Yeah, 345 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: they took a lot of time to give Mitch Johnson 346 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: a lot of time. Let's huddle. It didn't happen. Obviously. 347 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to see a wave from the crowd. I mean, 348 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: the only good time for a wave is during a 349 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: video CHALLENGEA. Well, there's nothing. What would you rather watch? 350 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: Tony Brothers talk to James Caper's talk to Mitch Johnson. No, 351 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: thank you do something out there. They're talking. They gave 352 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: him the opportunity to review it. It obviously went off 353 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: Chet's big foot. Yeah. I don't know what anyone was 354 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: thinking about. 355 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Johnson and his staff decided like, well, we're 356 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: not going to do use our challenge here because oh 357 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: they are huddling up here, so they're probably when you 358 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: do see that, they generally somebody comes in and goes guys, 359 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: I think we got that one wrong. I'll just go 360 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: the other way. And they did it. That was the 361 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: weird part. 362 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: The technology is there for somebody from secaucas the league office, 363 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: to call down and say it was off the foot. 364 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: Don't even challenge this, just just turn it around. We're 365 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: smarter than that. 366 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Ben Taylor. Ben Taylor was in secaucas 367 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: last night. Oh announced the replay ref. 368 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: I love that. 369 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: Your guy, James Capers was on the floor. Yeah, he 370 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: was there. 371 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: It was James. It was James. What'd you think about 372 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: SGA taking seventeen free throws? Uh, he fouled a lot. 373 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of them were bonus situation type 374 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: free throws. I agree. 375 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: So there's obviously a compilation of every foul he drew 376 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: out there nine fouls he drew. Two of them were 377 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: on shooting, like actual shots. Yeah, one Carter Brian pushes 378 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: him in back. The other one Luke Cornett hits him 379 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: in the face. All the other ones are like thirty 380 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 3: or forty sometimes seventy feet away from the hoop. And 381 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: to me, it was more like bonehead spurs than bad 382 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: calls by the ref because I mean they're handsy, but 383 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: they called it literally all night, which is why there's 384 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: nine of them, And it was just the Spurs being 385 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: a little over aggressive, trying to be physical with SGA. 386 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 3: So I thought they were consistent. Maybe they're not consistent 387 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: with the previous four games always, but it was the 388 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: same call in the first quarter as it was in 389 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, and that's what players and coaches always want. 390 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think this series in a hole after 391 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: five games has like lived up to the hype? Like 392 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: we got an incredible game one one for the ages, 393 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: the double overtime and the big Wemby performance, But since then, like, 394 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: what's your feeling on this series? Because on one hand, 395 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: it's been awesome, like the Chess match, I think, between 396 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: the coaches and the changes and the role players stepping 397 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: up on both sides. But then I'm like, some of 398 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: these games, you know, we had lacks some dramatics, and 399 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: then like especially this game, seventy free throws, like you 400 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: said fifty, you won fouls, a whole bunch of turnovers. 401 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: It's a tough one for me to like sort of 402 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: decide like has this really been good? I don't know, 403 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: it hasn't been amazing. 404 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: It's still the most entertaining series of the playoffs for me. Okay, 405 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: but this is like the one I'm most excited about 406 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: when it's on. 407 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, but thunder Spurs excuse me, thunder Pacers was a 408 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: better series. Oh that was last year. 409 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 410 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying, well, people are we were hyping 411 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: this up and expecting an all time great, it's nowhere 412 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: near that. 413 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: We're not done. We're not done, but yeah, we're not 414 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: done through five through five. Yeah. I peaked at the 415 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: top all right, right at the beginning, and since we've 416 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: had garbage time in several games, which is surprising, long 417 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: quarters with the free throws. So yeah, we're not peak. 418 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: But obviously Okay, see Indiana went seven and it peaked 419 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: at the right time. Yeah, I mean, so we still 420 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: got time. San Antonio has to win game six. No, 421 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 2: it's not what I was going to say about for 422 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 2: for it to be exciting at all, to be deemed 423 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: exciting at all, like a memorable series. You know, it 424 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: died off a little. 425 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: Bit, sure, but I just remember things right, like like 426 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: you don't remember games two, five, and six from last year. 427 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: No way from the finals. 428 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: I think. 429 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: Enjoyable viewing experience the basketball being played in that series 430 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: it was, but this and like again, I'm still enjoying 431 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: this because this is a goddamn rock fight between these 432 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: two teams and all of these athletes and how locked 433 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: in defensively are and it's very difficult to officiate these 434 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: handsy and aggressive and all this. So I think you 435 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: get an official crew like last night, it gets very 436 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: bogged down for how they're going to call it. So 437 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: it makes for a tough a tougher watch. And yeah, 438 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: we've lacked again, We've lacked close real games at the 439 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: end of it. 440 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: That's the problem. Yeah, that's the issue. We just need 441 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 2: one big clothes win. And I say we got to 442 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: go to seven for this to be a memorable series. 443 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: I mean, you could have a wh wild end to 444 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: game six and for it to be extremely memorable. We 445 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: need that because we've had garbage. 446 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: Time, We've had garbage lot, We've had Yeah. 447 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: That's what I'm asking. 448 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: So, Yeah, there was a huge sequence around the halfway 449 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: mark of the final period went you look for all 450 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: the crapping we're doing on the spurs here in wemby Land, 451 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: and they at times were in this game. And I 452 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: don't know about you guys. But I was going, oh 453 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: my god, maybe are they going to actually steal this 454 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: because they're hanging around here. It's like suddenly they got 455 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: it to like eight points, right something like that. Fox 456 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: actually hit a finally hit one of his rare shots 457 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: on the night cut the lead to eight. But halfway 458 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: through the fourth but then there was a big sequence. 459 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: SGA found Hartenstein inside for a little five foot of there, 460 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: his little patent push shot that was huge. And then 461 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: SGA did a good job of challenging. I think it 462 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: was Devin Vessel attacking on the left hand side. It 463 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: was a layup attempt. You know, he probably could have 464 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: hit it, should have hit it, but it was a 465 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: good defensive challenge. I think it was SGA. Then they 466 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: took the ball, they pushed it in transition and SGA 467 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: just led McCain perfectly into like a step in three 468 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: on the break. Bang big what you know, five point 469 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: swing there, even more if you add the Hertenstein bucket 470 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: off of an SGA pass inside to him and that 471 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: sort of like you know, pushed it a little too 472 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: big and then they held on. But that was you know, 473 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: great defense there and SGA knowing as soon as I 474 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: give this ball to Jared McCain. He is letting it 475 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: go and he's having a great second half, So that's 476 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: the move. 477 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just wrote, yeah, those plays that were 478 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: sort of designed for him instead of him just creating 479 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: with Jared McCain, like in that semi transition or transition. 480 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: That was a big difference for Jared mccainn I thought 481 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: as the game went on, you know, he doesn't have 482 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: to be You're not the guy guy, you're not the 483 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: creator guy guy. But as soon as the offense comes 484 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: and it comes to you, then you're awesome. 485 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: He's a great secondary piece for shake Out just Alexander 486 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: because he can score when the ball's in his hands, 487 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: but he's. 488 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: So active when the ball is away, like. 489 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 3: Cutting and relocating and filling in on the right spots. 490 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: And then he's just got the most awesome reputation right 491 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: now where literally everybody who talks about him is like, 492 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 3: he's gonna shoot it as soon as he touches it, 493 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 3: and everybody thinks it's cool. A lot of guys would 494 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: be called a ball hog in that situation, but they're like, nah, 495 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: we love it. 496 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: He stays aggressive. Yeah, it's sort of they hits the 497 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: He's the one guy on that team that's like allowed 498 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: to do it or they want to do it, and 499 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: it does work because everybody else is a little more patient. Yeah, 500 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: of course, you're, you know, probing the defense, trying to 501 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: get a better shot, make a good shot, great, but 502 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: not him. It's like, let it go. You see a 503 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: crack of daylight, he lets it rip. Yeah, he's he 504 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: was awesome. 505 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: And then on the other side, Harper and Fox, they're 506 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 3: not right, No, they are definitely not. Fox has no 507 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 3: touch right now, Midia is off, isn't finishing inside, and 508 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: then anytime he makes his shot, they get a close 509 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 3: up of him. 510 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: Running back down the court and he's grimacing. 511 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've said he wouldn't play if this was during 512 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: the regular season. I kind of believe it. Harper has 513 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: no explosion. The guy is not seeking out contact the 514 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: way he was in games one in two. Hasn't been 515 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: in double digits since the adductor injury. So they are 516 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: out there. But these guys are definitely hampered. 517 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Harper is really slow to get into his action 518 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: at all. He's just really slow to move in the hands. 519 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: He thunder defense did some wonders on him the case 520 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: and Wallace Steel the Caruso steel right up in Harper's space. 521 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: So there's that, and you can definitely see Fox as well. 522 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 2: So yes, both those guys. Defon Castle tried to make 523 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: up for it, and he was extremely good defensively on 524 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: Shay that one incredible steal. Now he did get handsy himself, 525 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: but yeah, they didn't have enough guys and Basel a 526 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: bad game stinker, So they didn't have enough guys. But 527 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: Champagne the best game of his playoffs career, no doubt 528 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: about that. Stefan Castle did enough and they needed for 529 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 2: the shoulder and Chet's chess. 530 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this guy's got a good nickname, 531 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, Kelden big Body Johnson putting it to use, 532 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: putting Chett in the stanchion on that one. 533 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: His chest home grin right there. That was bad. That 534 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 2: was a bad one. So they compensated. 535 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the to start the second half, there was 536 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: another great Okac run. It was seven zero. I think 537 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: a big part of that was the Jared McCain and 538 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: they had bodies everywhere defensively, like they really started the 539 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: second half with some energy. That's when Wemby he called 540 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: the team together during that time out that looked really cool, 541 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: like huddling them up and he's like giving barking out 542 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: orders or whatever, and you're like, okay, here we go. 543 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: They know they realized this obviously might be the game here, 544 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: these next couple minutes might be the series. Anyway. They 545 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: come out of the timeout and Fox throws it at 546 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: a Bounts. It was like, damn, that's not what you 547 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: want to do right out of the timeout after Wemby 548 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: was like trying to give his his hype speech here. 549 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, Fox was bad. This allway was bad. And Harper, 550 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 551 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: Bad. 552 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: Probably injury related, no doubt from what we saw earlier. 553 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: And also, you know he is at this in this 554 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: series he looks like a twenty year old rookie. Yes, again, 555 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: I do think it's part of the injury more than anything. 556 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: But he looks the part of a twenty year old 557 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: rookie in huge games, big stakes where he didn't for 558 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: really the whole regular season and a lot of these 559 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: series prior. 560 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: So but you go home and things may change. 561 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah's going seven, 562 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: it's going seven. We got Scott Foster on the phone. 563 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: We got the extender here. I was checking the referee assignments. 564 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: They're not out here. Oh okay, the w NBA ones 565 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: are there. 566 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Victor woman ya'ma skip and 567 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: media post game and whether or not he should be fined. 568 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: He should be fine, he should absolutely. 569 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: What is the president for every guy not doing it 570 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: in the because forgive my brain, but I don't remember 571 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: if any guy gets fine immediately, because some guys just 572 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: don't do media. They literally will leave. Do they all 573 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: get fine? 574 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: Like I think they do. I mean, I don't know 575 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: for sure, but I think I think they actually do. 576 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: You may be pretty infrequent, I think. I mean, it's 577 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: the star guys we're talking about here too, and. 578 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah we're not talking about Luke Cornett. 579 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun, you know, it's this is a big 580 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: story because he had a bad game. We're all debating 581 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: what's wrong with them if or is something wrong with them? 582 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: And then the other part is he like was voted 583 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: the most media friendly player in the game by the 584 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: Professional Basketball Writers Association, So it's like out a character 585 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: for him to brush them off. 586 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's why it's acceptable because he was voted 587 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: the best player with media. I don't know. At the 588 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: same time, said he only took two shots by the 589 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: rim in the first half, but then he took more 590 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: in the second half, So it's not like he if 591 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: it's a sickness, was that impeded him in any way 592 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: from as the game went on? You know what I mean? 593 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: When you like to ask him those questions, Yeah, sure 594 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: I would. I'd like to ask him, ye know, what 595 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: happened out there? What the type of defense were you've seeing? 596 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: Or what's wrong with you? I guess you'd start with 597 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: and then yeah, how about the shoulder bump to Chet 598 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: and Jalen Williams getting into it with you? And oh yeah, 599 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: what did you whisper to your backup big men when 600 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: they checked in in garbage time? Did you tell him 601 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 1: to go, you know, lay out Jared McCain. That's what happened. 602 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: Probably just legit clocked McCain in the back. That was 603 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: pretty as dirty play. 604 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: That was a shot in the back. 605 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that hard Shine and Biambo had words 606 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: and all that. 607 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: But Biambo smashed Yeah Caine too, Yeah, I guess he should. Yeah, 608 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: it was more on translation. 609 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, what did he whisper. Well, okay, I'd like to 610 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: ask him about it. So, yeah, he deserves to be fined. 611 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I bet I'll apologize. I think he will. 612 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: But he should be fine. 613 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: He should. 614 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: This is the biggest game. You're a star. You got 615 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: to answer some questions. 616 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the rules, anything else from the actual sort of 617 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: game here. I know we're talking about the postgame media 618 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: skip out, but anything else before we get to random notes. 619 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, Biambo, Plumbley and a Linux played together. Yeah, plus one, 620 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: I say, run it out there, come on, Mitch yep 621 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: with Wenby Wenby at the point, Luke Cornette at the two. 622 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: That's unstoppable. Do you wonder why they have five centers 623 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: when you have this is what they're saving it for 624 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: of the conference. You'll never guess what this is. 625 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: That's the second time they've done that in this series. 626 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: That garbage lineup of a triple center. 627 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because they have on the roster they could 628 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: maybe use actually another garter or two in place with 629 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: some of those guys. 630 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: What about Lindy, Yeah, was out there. I don't know 631 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: his his pregame dancing was on point. 632 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: What why the big guys? I think we got our answer. Yeah, 633 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: I think it was go out there. They're still out there, 634 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: go lay somebody out, knock somebody down. Yeah, that was 635 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: like Dexter Pittman to me. 636 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 3: Remember that he nailed who Lance Stevenson against the Pacers, 637 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: the like, sorry, you're expendable, man, Go hit somebody in 638 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: the face. Sometimes that's what they're there for. Literally, you said, 639 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: that's what Biaombo is there for, to smash into Wenby. 640 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but now they turned it, turned it loose down 641 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: the opposition. 642 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just a practice smash, but they did 643 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: in the game here. I was just glad that we 644 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: didn't get a Kelly Olinik yanking of somebody's arm, like 645 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: he yanked Kevin love shoulder no way back when and 646 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: actually injured him. 647 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: Kelly was fine. We didn't see it. 648 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: Socks wow, No, socks are not a story here in 649 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: the Western Conference. Finally, I mean this is the second 650 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: game he's played. Yeah, no sock talk, No sock talk. 651 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: How about one last thing. 652 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: I came up with a better name for when Wemby 653 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: throws the ball at the glass to himself. 654 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: He tried it a couple of times last night. They're 655 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: ready for it. 656 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: He couldn't get to the rebound. Yeah, should be called 657 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: a French kiss. 658 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: I like it. 659 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's better than when bound, Sorry, Jake, Yeah again, 660 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: when bound reads better than it sounds, for sure. The 661 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: French kiss. I love it. But okay, and we're fine 662 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: with other guys. Yeah, that's fine. I know other guys 663 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: can French kiss. French kiss. All right, let's get into 664 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: other random notes here from game five random test. You 665 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: already mentioned this one. I did grab a screen grab 666 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: of Keldon Johnson hyping up Wemby pregame. I was hyped 667 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: for it, you know, he got me all hyped. Maybe 668 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: that's why we were so disappointed in Wemby's Game five. 669 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: But there was a shot of it all a lot 670 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: of pointing at him. 671 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: Right, oh yeah, right in the chest. Yeah yeah yeah. 672 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: But he did say I wish you want to be 673 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: able to hear what he has to say postgame. I 674 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: wanted to hear what wenb We had to say to 675 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson. He said like two words to him as 676 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: he poked him for ten seconds, finished it off with 677 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: something like two words. Oh. I tried to do some 678 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: lip reading. Yeah, no, no language. I lip red in French. 679 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: Got nothing from it. Tried English, got nothing from it. 680 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what the conversation was. 681 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: We had a close up of Alex Caruso's upside down 682 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: headband that was a little story here for Mike Tarico 683 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: and the guys. Uh, and there it is and you know, 684 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: definitely upside down. But then they said his inspiration for 685 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: it was from Rondo, and they showed us a photo 686 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: of Caruso and Rondo and the Lakers. But I laughed 687 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: because Rondo had it was not upside down instaid photo, 688 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: so I couldn't find one. I mean, we knew Rondo 689 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 1: did do it. I thought he got told not to 690 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: do it, but at this point he had yeah, yeah, yeah, 691 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: yeah he did. So I'm surprised. I mean, I do 692 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: not care at all. I don't want Silver to come 693 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: in and say, hey, flip the headband upside down or 694 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: the right way. 695 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: Thinks have changed. Just because a guy gets fine for 696 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: not seeing or not doing interviews post game or wearing 697 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: an upside down headband we're told not to, thinks have changed. 698 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: Things have changed. He's not going to be fine. 699 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: Can't wear it around your neck gel and sucks style. 700 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: You can't. 701 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's allowed. That's true. 702 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: How about this video clip of Castle throwing the ball 703 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: away no doubt because he thought James Capers was playing 704 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: for the San Antonio Spurs. And how can you blame him? 705 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're wearing when you really think about it, 706 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: sort of similar outfits the Spurs and officials the black 707 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: and silver or black and gray. I guess let's call it, 708 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: and that's I mean, that's Castle thought right, Caper's sort 709 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: of Capers was open and let it go out of bounds. 710 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: I know I'd love for him to catch it. I 711 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: think James Caper's is a bucket or ever once? 712 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: Yes, well, yeah I do. I think every ref at 713 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: some point played basketball. 714 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: Every single one, uh yeah, a high percentage. I'm trying 715 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: to think of, like who didn't. 716 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: Who was the referee that played pickleball? JD that actually 717 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: played pick a ball with? Was it you or Rachel? 718 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: Maybe we can ask him if he's played or basketball? 719 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: I should say, what was his name? 720 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: Jonathan Sterling? 721 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: Sterling? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't seen him over two years, so. 722 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: Maybe he's playing. 723 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 4: We just we just don't play it why anymore? 724 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: Okay, he's retired now, But did Joey Brothers play basketball. 725 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: It was Joey Brothers, I mean, Joey Crawford's Joey Crawford, 726 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Like at what level through high school? Okay, okay, I 727 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: thought you were more saying, uh, you know, college semi 728 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: professional level. Everybody played in high school, I would assume, 729 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: but I don't think Joey Crawford was making college basketball what? 730 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 5: Uh? 731 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: What do you think that James Caper's favorite meal is. 732 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: No club chick. 733 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 3: Caper's like a chicken picado y delicious. That's a lobster 734 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: roll on Martha's Vineyard. 735 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: Oh nice, fancy guy. Yeah, that guy didn't play basketball. 736 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: I was busy having dinner with Martha Stewart and Martha's Vineyard. 737 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: Final final final clip. I don't know why they showed 738 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: us this, but Cheryl Miller crushing an egg in her 739 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: bice This was so weird I had to rewind it. 740 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, what did I miss for this setup or 741 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: why we're seeing this? I mean it was off a 742 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: w n B a AD So that's why she's part 743 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: of the w NBA NBC broadcast now, so that's why. 744 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've seen the can you crack an 745 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: egg on your bicep? Going around a lot on social media. 746 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 747 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: I watched a full Brooklyn Nets version of it once 748 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: upon a time. 749 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 750 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 3: But why did we see this during the conference finals. 751 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that part of strang no reason. The liberty, 752 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: the liberty. 753 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: We're doing this, okay, challenge, this test, whatever you want 754 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: to call it. 755 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more of a test. Does that have anything 756 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: to do with the actual bicep. It's just the ability 757 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: to hold it balanced in between your forum and your 758 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 2: bicep and crush it. Is it not. 759 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: Enough pressure? Yeah? Yeah there, well for the pressure. 760 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there's all there's a lot of 761 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: nets that couldn't do it. 762 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like most of them. No, most of them can't. 763 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 764 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: This, by the way, is like as a feather in 765 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: Cheryl Millers cat. But this idea is like five years old. 766 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: We were doing this five years ago in twenty twenty one. 767 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: This cracking, cracking an egg. 768 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: Between you when you needed things to do. Yeah, pandemic Yeah, 769 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: when eggs, when eggs. 770 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: Everybody was fine, just wasting eggs. Yeah. 771 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: She also has a sweater on. That's a weird move 772 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: because so she pulls up the sweater, it's over the bicep. 773 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 2: There's a lot more material to crush, I would say. 774 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: But anyway, I. 775 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: Did Reggie like I did like Tarico joking that he 776 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: had an egg under the desk for Reggie to try. 777 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: He made that joke. Yeah, that was a good joke. Yeah. Sorry. 778 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: I feel like Reggie was taking a lot of shots 779 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: last night, Like when Jamal Crawford just brought up on 780 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: Prince blocking him from out nowhere. 781 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: That was pretty funny. 782 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Reggie was blocking Jamal Crawford a lot in the 783 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: shots on camera. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, just because the 784 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 2: angle of the camera Reggie turned, you just saw Reggie. 785 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: To his right facing that way. 786 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 3: So like when he was congratulating Mike Tarico on his enmy, 787 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 3: you couldn't see Jamale that was That was a long 788 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: handhold from Reggie to Mike. What else the Spurs, They 789 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: didn't fly the nuns there, No, but there was a 790 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: bunch of guys that were dressed like nuns. Okay, not 791 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: the same as you can see. The result was not 792 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: nearly the same. Oh you're saying there were Spurs fans 793 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 3: fans dress as nuns. Well, I don't know if they 794 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 3: were Spurs fans. I assume so, But there was two 795 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 3: men dressed as nuns wearing black and whites. Oh okay, 796 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: because I saw earlier in the day a bunch of 797 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: Oka Sea fans joking that they were going to maybe 798 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 3: dress as nuts at the game. 799 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: These men could have been Okay, see fans, Sure we did. 800 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: They're wearing they wear well, maybe they're big James Capers fans. 801 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: They're dressed fans. 802 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, they remember what he played back. 803 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: Should referees have to change their jerseys if they look 804 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: too similar to an NBA team? 805 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: They should be brightening On agreed. So when when that 806 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: play happened, I was like, it is a little weird. 807 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: They're dressed very similar to the one team playing. 808 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 2: That's very strange. They don't change it. They don't have 809 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 2: alternate jerseys though, I want. 810 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: A city edition James Capers jerseys. 811 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: He was a ballers tell me. 812 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: I just found out he's James Caper's junior. His dad 813 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,479 Speaker 3: was also an NBA referee, So this guy's been around 814 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: the game his entire life. 815 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. See when you said every guy has played, I 816 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: assume like they've just walked onto the floor and actually 817 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: just like shot around. So they've kind of like played. 818 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I played. Know what's the percentage of NBA officials 819 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: that have played. I think college is a fair level. 820 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: Like I think that means you were, of course, you know, 821 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: not an elite, elite basketball player. But like high school man, 822 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: that seems like too low a bar to me. I'd 823 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: love to know. I think it's high. I'm with you. 824 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: To you, I think it's very high. But also people 825 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: that are referees are a little weird. That doesn't mean 826 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: they played basketball, you know again, I think Joey Brothers, 827 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced. 828 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like my my homie Mike Knowmi, who referees hockey, 829 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 2: you know, does some different stuff, but he's a great, 830 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: great referee. Yeah, but did he play Did he play 831 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: NHL professionally? How high do you have to play in 832 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: the NHL? So in basketball, I think it's similar. You 833 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 2: can play in some league while you're in high school. 834 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 2: I think that's different, like a non high school league 835 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 2: that qualifies to me as actually playing basketball. Like my 836 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: homie Mikenomi played in the league other than high school hockey, 837 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: which we had in Canada, So I think that I 838 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 2: think that qualifies. 839 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: He wasn't a very good hockey player. 840 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: Oh of course. I mean if you end up being 841 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 2: a referee. James Caper's wasn't a ball, Yeah exactly. 842 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 3: That's what I think is that every single referee wanted 843 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 3: to make the NBA okay, and this is how they 844 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 3: did it, exactly because this is the way they could 845 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 3: do it. 846 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 847 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm not youally agree with that, because officials are weird 848 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: as shit, man, That's true. I wanted her to be 849 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: cops and they couldn't be cops, so they became officials. 850 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: That's why I interpret it anyway, that's funny. 851 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: Any other random notes. 852 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, but while we're talking refs, I think it's very 853 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 3: funny now that players complain for transition take files because 854 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 3: it just ends up with a bunch of guys sticking 855 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 3: their arms out like that, like the Christ the Redeemer statue. 856 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know we did get one, right, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 857 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: That was a weird one. I thought it was. 858 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 3: Shaye got the transition take foul because I think his 859 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 3: pocket filed him right. 860 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 2: There and then he does then he does this signal, 861 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 2: but he's in the paint almost. 862 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: It was. It was a weird position for it. I'm 863 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: with you. On that did we didn't talk about this 864 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: earlier in the postseason, but I'm convinced and maybe this 865 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: is the thing and I just missed it. We now 866 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: have like a universal sign for guys flopping right, Yeah, 867 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: have you seen yeah? Yeah, yeah, I thought that. Yeah, 868 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: they like it's it's a hinge movement. Somehow. We never 869 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: talked about it on the pila, so we like glossed 870 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: over it. But like I was like, when when did 871 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: we decide that that was it? I was like, okay, 872 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: we're going with that. But yeah, you started seeing it 873 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: a lot there in the first couple of series. 874 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 2: I remember. I think it was in the first couple 875 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: of series. 876 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 3: They pick up on the signals quickly, and that's the 877 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 3: way to signal your disappointment. You know, we've seen the finger, 878 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: they do the flop, they do the arms. You don't 879 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 3: see a lot of guys through all the charge no 880 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 3: like to celebrate maybe of course the travel. 881 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what official? 882 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: At what level? Did you play basketball? Sign me up? 883 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: Do you guys want to try and become a very officials? 884 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 5: Nothing? 885 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: We get on the same crew. Awesome. We don't know 886 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: each other all right. 887 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 2: Last Spurs assistant coach Carlos Williamson was shaking smelling salts. 888 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 2: It looked exactly like smelling salts, but we never actually 889 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: saw him put it up to his nostril. Pregame, never 890 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: seen an assistant coach do smelling salts, and and he didn't. 891 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: But the guy was ready, Big Nasty was ready. He's 892 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 2: just ready for this game. Assistant coaches do smelling salts. 893 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: I'm starting that rumor because I didn't see it. But anyway, 894 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: there'll be more on Carlos Williamson later this show. Just 895 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 2: a random question. 896 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: What oh yeah, right, right, right? 897 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 2: Mail bag question? I forgot about one. 898 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break. When we come back, we'll 899 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: talk some coaches news, and then hit the beach. I 900 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: don't want to alarm anyone, but we have at most 901 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: nine NBA games left this postseason. Yeah, it could be 902 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: as low as five, but at most nine. Fan duel 903 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: is giving you better payouts on same game parlays all 904 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: NBA playoffs long, with more ways to build and more 905 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: value every time you play. You can stack your picks 906 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: your way for every game, every matchup, and every moment. Yeah, task, 907 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: I was locked in yesterday. Game five, you had dort 908 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: as the first score, and there was like, well, of 909 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,959 Speaker 1: course Wemby won the tip, of course had a chance. 910 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: Gotta stop and they came down. 911 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, things were looking good. 912 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: But thunder didn't get it to Dort. 913 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: No McCain, it was the ball stop. 914 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: But but then it goes back the other way. Spurs 915 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: don't score again. And then Dort had a chance. He 916 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 1: got a look first attempt from the corner yep, and 917 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: unfortunately missed it. So parlay didn't hit. But man, was 918 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: Innix sighting or what? 919 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah it was? I was really locked in. 920 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 1: From spreads to players points to three still a whole bunch. 921 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: More build it all into one same game parlay and 922 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: go for bigger payouts. So if you're betting the same 923 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: game parlays for this NBA postseason again possibly only nine 924 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: games left, bet them on FanDuel, more options, better payouts. 925 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: All NBA playoffs long had to fan Duel sportsbook app 926 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: to get started. Maybe FanDuel official partner of the NBA 927 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: partner here of no dunks, play your game. 928 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 3: Who do you think is the favorite for first basket 929 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 3: of Game six? It's gotta be a spur wey Yeah, yeah, 930 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 3: plus three thirty. They need to establish him early. Yeah, 931 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 3: he's the favorite SGA plus six fifty Fox and the 932 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 3: Cell as well at six fifty. 933 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 1: You know what I like a I like of the Cell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. 934 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: I mean the defensive is going to be, of course 935 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: focused on Wemby. Bodies are going to come over. There's 936 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: gonna be some. 937 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 2: We gotta Ben just have the game. His career got 938 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: to stop. Champagne, sure, sure, splashing threes. 939 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 3: All right? 940 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: A little coaches corner here, the stupid bust and Celtics 941 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: succeeded stupid expectations all season, and Joe Mizzoula was named 942 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 1: the Stupid Coach of the Year in recognition of their 943 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: stupid success. Joey maz beat out the other finalists for 944 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: the award. Show you the voter breakdown here on YouTube, JB. 945 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: Bickerstaff and Mitch Johnson coming up in second and thirty 946 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: a fairly close total point vote. Joe Mizzula with eighty 947 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: more points than JB. Bickerstaff. Anyone's shocked by this or 948 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: what were your reactions to Joe Mazula. See that's the thing. 949 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 3: My main reaction to this is like, oh, yeah, the 950 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 3: regular season, because it's been almost a month since the 951 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 3: Celtics played basketball. The last time we saw him, Joey 952 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: maz was doing a ultimate you played yourself move starting 953 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 3: Luca Garza and Ron Harper junior in a game. So 954 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 3: didn't make any sense, but this is for the regular season, 955 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 3: and he deserved it for the regular season. You just 956 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 3: got a flashback and remember all those years ago. 957 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 2: These years ago, great regular season, a really really good 958 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: regular season, the things that he did. Did he earn it? Yeah? Yeah, 959 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 2: because you lose Jason Tatum, but still, I mean the 960 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 2: guys that he developed, like nimash Keita barely had a 961 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 2: role in this league, barely started at all, puts him 962 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 2: as his starting center and was able to just get 963 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: incredible defensive performance out of that guy. Turns into a 964 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 2: fourth ranked defense in the whole league. Combined with the 965 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 2: wings that he had Jordan Walsh in a role where 966 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 2: you take the other team's best offensive player along with 967 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 2: Baylor Shyron who had his best season, was awesome. Hugo 968 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 2: Gonzalez Ugo. People get mad when I call him Hugo. 969 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 2: It is Ugo, a nineteen year old part of the rotation, 970 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 2: and you create an offense around Jalen and only Jalen Brown, 971 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 2: and you were able to execute the second best offense 972 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 2: in the league. You're number one in turnovers. Yeah, I 973 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: can understand why he gets it at fifty six and 974 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 2: twenty six. 975 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they had a better record than the New 976 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: York Knicks. Yeah, because this is that, okay, more than 977 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: most of the awards. It's like expectation based, right, A 978 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: lot of us, myself for sure, thought the Celtics were 979 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: not going to be nearly this good. Maybe the gap year, 980 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: maybe a more of a five hundred team, maybe not 981 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: even in like the playoffs, maybe more battling in the 982 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: play in So for them to exceed that and you 983 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: have fifty six wins, top five on both sides of 984 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: the floor, they had the fifth best record in the league. 985 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: That's impressive. That's impressive. But I think again it's because 986 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: of those maybe preseason expectations with the notatum and oh 987 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: what are we going to get from this team? But 988 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, James Bickerstaff did win sixty games, that's pretty impressive. 989 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: And Miss Johnson with one of the youngest teams in 990 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: the league winning sixty two, like, these guys are well deserved. 991 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: I think finalists of for sure but you know, the 992 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: Boston media mafia is going to vote for their guys too. 993 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: Brad Stevens won Executive of the Year, which ones. So 994 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 1: they're both just elite and there they had a great 995 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: regular season. But it is weird the way they're handing 996 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: out these awards. It's sort of silly. We should like 997 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 1: get we should get to them quicker. 998 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 3: There should not be an award announced after the first round, 999 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 3: like there's enough time. 1000 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: The first round lasts so long. 1001 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean and now now there's definitely 1002 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 2: enough time. But sometimes we want some headlines. 1003 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: That's why, yeah, totally. Missoula did say by the way 1004 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 1: through statement, I didn't see any sort of like a 1005 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: press conference for this. He didn't want this stupid award, 1006 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: as he said. I mean, that's why I was saying stupid, stupid, stupid, 1007 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: because he had called this a stupid. 1008 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 2: Not for you, Joe, it's awards not for you. 1009 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: Well, he said, this award belongs to our staff who 1010 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 1: are there for the guys every day. Their relentless work 1011 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: ethic improves our team daily. This award should be named Staff. 1012 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 2: Of the Year. Sure the respect, respect, respect and respect 1013 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,959 Speaker 2: to the JB. Bicker Staff and Detroit they were. 1014 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: Good to staff of the year. Yeah, you should definitely 1015 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: get it. Great point. 1016 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: Just me again, more votes for Jordan Not I thought, yeah, 1017 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 2: had more votes than fifth too far down. 1018 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it went Missoula, Bickerstaff, Mitch Johnson. I mean 1019 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: those were your clear one two threes, and then a 1020 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: big drop off to Charles Lee and then Jordan Not 1021 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: of the Suns, and then Mark Dagnall. Those were the 1022 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: only three guys to get plus ten total points. It 1023 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: goes five to three to one, I think. And then 1024 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: you had Reddick, Splitter, Quinn Snyder, Kenny Atkinson, Tyrone Lou 1025 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 1: and Dorko got one loan third place vote, pizza party 1026 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 1: for Darko. 1027 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 2: I think those like a Tront Lou vote. I think 1028 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 2: somebody just felt bad for the guy, everything he had 1029 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 2: to go go through this season. It's like, you did 1030 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 2: good fighting through all that Chris Paul stuff, Steve Baumer stuff, 1031 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 2: other stuff. What other stuff did they have? 1032 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 3: He's very close friends with John C. Billips, first Kawhi 1033 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: Leonard of it all as well. 1034 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: Things hanging over there. 1035 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 3: Do you think that like every coach that got to 1036 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 3: vote deserved at least get vote. 1037 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: I sort of agreed. Yeah, it's good to see Darko 1038 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: down there. Dark like Tyler did have a good season. 1039 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: They started terrible and turned it around, you know. Quinn Snyder, Yeah, 1040 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: turning around there. It's nice to see your name. Yep. 1041 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: The only question I have about coaches who reviewed the 1042 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: only coach I questioned Kenny Kenny Atkinson. 1043 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we know how you feel about him. You 1044 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: thought he was supposed to be fired today. Good news 1045 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: for you. Many going anywhere and. 1046 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 2: Didn't come close to expectations from the fourth seed. I mean, 1047 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 2: they recovered, but thirty you. 1048 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: Know, well, let's talk about him a little bit more. 1049 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: Because the Cleveland Cavaliers planned to retain coach Kenny Atkinson 1050 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: even after the nick swept him on Monday night, both 1051 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: Shams and the athletics Joe Varden reported on this news. 1052 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,280 Speaker 1: So there's gonna be no major changes. Again, these are reports, 1053 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: but these guys are pretty locked in to the kaz 1054 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: front office or their coaching staff. None is to be 1055 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: expected here. Sounds also like James Harden is going to 1056 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: be signing some sort of contract extension with them, and 1057 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: then it's TVD for the rest of the roster and 1058 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 1: maybe some of the other big names. But yeah, yesterday's podcast, 1059 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: I asked you guys, what's the one big move or 1060 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: one big decision the Cavs have to make, and you 1061 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 1: guys seemed in agreement, probably Ken Kenny Ackintson and maybe 1062 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: get a new leader in here, vocal leader. But they say. 1063 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 2: No to that because I think Donovin Mitchell really likes him. 1064 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 2: That's what I interpreted as I agree their top player 1065 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 2: likes this guy. He's coming back. Simple as that, does 1066 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 2: that mean Mitchell signing an extension? I think they could 1067 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 2: wait on that. He does have a year plus the 1068 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 2: player option. They could they could, or do they just 1069 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,280 Speaker 2: give him all that dollars? 1070 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,720 Speaker 1: That one's up to Donovan Mitchell. 1071 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 2: I think. 1072 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 3: I think the Cavs will offer him the extension and 1073 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 3: say do you want it, and he'll leave them hanging 1074 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 3: in the wind to decide whether or not. But I 1075 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 3: guess what the Cavs are doing is taking a July 1076 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 3: view of things rather than a May view. It's disappointing 1077 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 3: the way the season ended, but in like their exit interviews, 1078 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 3: they're like, hey, we went to the conference. 1079 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: Finals, so that was the whole point. We went farther 1080 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: than we did last year. 1081 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think Mitchell and hard and love playing together. 1082 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 2: I think Mitchell likes the ability to not have to 1083 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 2: handle the ball a ton. So there's that part in 1084 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 2: the fact they've only played two months together and going 1085 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 2: to the offseason they're they're gonna play again. I just 1086 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,919 Speaker 2: thought somebody else who would motivate this team a little 1087 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 2: bit more, would have a little bit more of that 1088 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 2: scrappiness to them because they have a different leader, was 1089 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 2: the way that they would go. Because I don't think 1090 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,439 Speaker 2: that they changed their roster at all. They're gonna hope 1091 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 2: for some internal growth. Like I said that Jalen Tyson, 1092 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 2: if he's their small forward and he's playing beside James 1093 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 2: Harden in Game one guarding Jalen Brunson, then it is different. 1094 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 2: It is different than Dean Wade out there not fighting 1095 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 2: over picks. So I guess that's what they're hoping for. 1096 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 2: But I thought there would be a little bit, a 1097 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 2: little bit of a change to their their front, their 1098 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 2: their staff period, and I thought it would be Kenny. 1099 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: Kenny does have three seasons remaining on his contract. You know, 1100 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: this plays a part in some of these decisions at 1101 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: times too, so you know, he's been there for what 1102 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: two years now, signed the five year deal, so he's 1103 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: not even halfway through the thing. Not that not that 1104 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: that's stopped. 1105 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 2: Obviously, this team has the highest payroll in the NBA, 1106 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 2: and so I'm sure Dan, don't call me. 1107 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: Dave Gilbert, call you Dave when I want to. 1108 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 2: They Dan Gilbert, Yeah, plays that is a part. I 1109 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 2: know there's some guys that they will let a guy 1110 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 2: go even if he has four years left on his contract, 1111 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 2: but yeah, they go. 1112 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna let a coach go when, as you guys 1113 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,760 Speaker 1: have talked about here, uh, your star player or players 1114 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: on your team dislike said coach or have tuned them 1115 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: out or have moved on don't give a shit about him. 1116 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: And that doesn't seem to be the case here as 1117 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: you guys went through like both especially in their exit 1118 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: interviews Mitchell hardin all of them that I saw, like 1119 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: nobody was saying, yeah, yeah, we don't like Kenny or 1120 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: like even alluding to like all the things he did wrong. 1121 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: And this is the thing, like that guy's got to 1122 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: take some blame for some of the group's failures here 1123 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: in the postseason YEP. In addition to the players, but 1124 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: like they were thirteen and fourteen in the playoffs, and yeah, 1125 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: they've had a lot of fifty win seasons here, but 1126 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: like and yeah, they got to the next step, but 1127 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: they did not even win a game at said step. 1128 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I didn't think it was impressive work 1129 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,439 Speaker 1: by him, impressive coaching by him. No ten in the playoffs, 1130 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: Oh well, I meant thirteen fourteen in his career, I 1131 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: guess as tokay, Yeah, WELCAFS at the very least, he 1132 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: goes into the next season on the hot seat. 1133 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 3: I have to imagine, like a slow start like they 1134 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 3: had this year, you're gonna be looking sideways at Kenny Atkinson. 1135 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 3: But a couple of things I think are in play here. 1136 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 3: The extension, for sure, is probably part of it. The 1137 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 3: team did advance farther than they wanted to go. They 1138 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 3: did have a huge change at the trade dead life 1139 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 3: swapping Garland for Harden, And you kind of mentioned it, 1140 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,359 Speaker 3: like who are they going to replace him with? Like, 1141 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 3: what's a name out there that you think, Oh, this 1142 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 3: is a championship winning coach. Michael Malone's in college, he 1143 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 3: won a championship. Billy Donovan's available, he never won a championship. 1144 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 3: Tom Thibodeau. They let go of him and the Knicks 1145 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 3: went further. So there's just not a name out there 1146 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 3: that you can do better for Kenny. Who's a guy that, 1147 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 3: like you're saying, skeets Donovan Mitchell's like, yeah, he's a player, coach. 1148 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 3: It wasn't his fault we lost. They went out of 1149 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 3: their way, I thought to protect Kenny Atkinson. 1150 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: YEA. 1151 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of other rosters you look at them 1152 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 2: and say, the young guy can do it, you know, 1153 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 2: in a modern day NBA. But I don't think this 1154 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 2: roster is designed for that. They want an oldie and 1155 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 2: so you mentioned some of the oldies that could replace him. 1156 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 2: They don't. There's not is there really one? They're not 1157 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 2: They're not going brego. I mean, they're not going that direction. 1158 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 2: You mentioned him on a hot seat. I think if 1159 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 2: if they do get off to a hot start or 1160 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 2: they're not playing together, then I think the guy in 1161 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 2: the associate head coach seat, Johnny Bryant, just takes that out, 1162 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 2: just lose over it because I think Donna Mitchell has 1163 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 2: a connection with him. TVD on that one. But yes, 1164 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 2: the fact that Kenny Atkinson's signed through twenty nine. I 1165 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 2: totally that totally skipped my mind. That's a lot of dollars. Yeah, 1166 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 2: it is Kenny. 1167 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,359 Speaker 1: For sure. When we get to our September well let's 1168 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: call it October preseason shows, and one of the questions is, yeah, 1169 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: which coaches on the hot seat here, he'll probably be 1170 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: at the top of the way. Yeah, he'll be at 1171 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: least in the top three. So yeah, they're gonna have 1172 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: to get off to a strong start and then sure, yeah, 1173 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: then they're off and running and see if they can, 1174 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: like these other teams in them in the Eastern Conference 1175 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: before them, take the next step to the finals like 1176 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: all these squads before them did. As we went through 1177 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 1: the Knicks and the Pacers, they what Heat and Celtics, 1178 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: and I was. 1179 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 2: Just I'm just surprised that the roster again, it's got 1180 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 2: to be internal because they're not changing it. Well, I 1181 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 2: mean Lebron ain't coming. 1182 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: Oh okay, but maybe they're changing it with one of 1183 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: the bigs being shipped out, be it Mobley or Jared Allen. 1184 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 2: I think that's very feasible possible. It just seems odd 1185 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 2: to me. And who are you counting on? You're counting 1186 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,959 Speaker 2: so much on one of those guys when you trade 1187 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 2: the other one out to be a rock beside Donovan 1188 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 2: Mitchell and James hard Well. 1189 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,919 Speaker 1: But it would be a trade of, like said, one 1190 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: good guy out for two solid guys to help, you know, 1191 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,760 Speaker 1: put around our defensive liability guards in Hardin and Mitchell. 1192 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, that's what it's like. 1193 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: No team desperately needs more of like an og Or 1194 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 1: or like an Eric Gordon, or like that nature of 1195 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: a player more than the Caps like that. And they've 1196 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,240 Speaker 1: they've tried. They thought, you know, maybe they thought DeAndre 1197 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: Hunter was going to be that. Nope, They've had other 1198 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: guys in the slot and a lot of guys in yeah, 1199 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 1: and they can't find it. And that's what those are 1200 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: tough guys to actually find in this league. There's very 1201 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 1: valuable guys, that's for sure, that don't kill you offensively 1202 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: and then are just like lockdown defenders. 1203 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 2: Jalen Tyson's working on that shot right now. Jeez, man, 1204 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 2: I mean, what else are you gonna do? You got 1205 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 2: a Dean I love Max, but to put in to 1206 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 2: put in so many minutes, I don't know, he seems 1207 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 2: I think I missed five months of the season too. 1208 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 2: He came back in March, right, I mean so it 1209 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 2: could be that as well. 1210 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's hit the beach and answer a few 1211 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 1: of your questions. I got the rocket, I got the chocolate, 1212 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 1: you got that ship shackdown, blah blah blah, you've done 1213 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: that shirt special. All right, we're on the beach. Thanks 1214 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: for sending in your questions. No Dunks, Inc. That's I 1215 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: n C at gmail dot com. If you want to 1216 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 1: email them in, you can drop them in the YouTube comments. 1217 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: You can tweet them in at No Dunks Inc. 1218 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 2: I n C as well. 1219 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: Uh, first one starts oddly. Hey Bill, I believe you 1220 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: want the Bill Simmons email account. This one I don't know. 1221 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 1: Did Bill forward this to us? 1222 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 2: He didn't want this one straight from Nathan. 1223 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Hey Bill, let's start Bill. I hope he's a 1224 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: to sevens too. So in the nineties, some players were 1225 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,800 Speaker 1: labeled tweeners. Corlis Williamson, there you go, task big nasty. 1226 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: For example, watching the Knicks fast Break, a series sweep 1227 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: is Evan Mobley the modern day tweener. Not big enough 1228 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: for center, too big for the four Love you guys, 1229 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: Go Nicks cheers. That's from Nathan, who is just sending 1230 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: this email to every NBA podcaster in the somebody's got 1231 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 1: to answer it. 1232 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 2: Hey, Bill, we will. 1233 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you think? TK? 1234 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 2: Start with you? 1235 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on is Mobilely the modern day tweener. I 1236 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: think his. 1237 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 3: Player archetype is one of the modern day players out there, 1238 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 3: But I don't think it's a size thing. Six foot 1239 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 3: eleven is tall enough to be a center. He's taller 1240 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 3: than Jared Allen two hundred and fifteen pounds, heavy enough 1241 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 3: to be a center. He's heavier than Chet Holmgren, who 1242 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 3: plays center a lot, though he plays power forward. 1243 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more of the game. 1244 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 3: And that brings me to the kind of player that 1245 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 3: says seven footers who don't rebound, that makes you a tweener. 1246 00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: Okay, he's one. 1247 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 3: Jared Jackson Junior one, Larry Markinen is one. Guys that 1248 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 3: are like big enough to play center, but they don't 1249 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 3: play big enough to play center. So for Mobilely, it's 1250 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 3: one of two things. Get your weight up or get 1251 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 3: your three points up, and then you fall into either one. 1252 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 3: You become a legitimate stretch five or you become just 1253 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 3: a five. 1254 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are fewer and fewer tweeners in 1255 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 2: today's game because everybody's more skilled. I would definitely agree 1256 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 2: with there's you know, Grant Williams. He's a tweener in 1257 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 2: today's NBA, but there just aren't many of them because 1258 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 2: everybody's just got enough skills. And Evan Mobley is not 1259 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 2: too big to be a four, as Nathan you wrote 1260 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 2: to Bill, because he can defend three pointers all the 1261 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 2: way to the rim. I mean he can guard like 1262 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 2: a three. He can guard like a three in that 1263 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 2: he can guard everywhere on the floor, but also he 1264 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 2: can guard at the rim. I mean, you we saw 1265 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 2: in the Knick series. He also was good enough to 1266 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 2: bring the ball up the floor. It was Josh Hart 1267 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 2: was given it to him in the backcourt like Avan, 1268 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 2: Mobley was a guy who you know, couldn't dribble like 1269 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 2: a center who can dribble, and he brought it up. 1270 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 2: It was awesome. But yeah, he can't finish as the five. 1271 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't have the ability to score as 1272 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 2: a five. But I appreciate it. I appreciate the email, 1273 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 2: but he's not caught in between. 1274 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't think, well, this is funny. We've done this 1275 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 1: show for a very long time. We're at twenty years 1276 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 1: plus now, and when we started correct me if I'm wrong, 1277 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 1: tweener was more seen as like a negative term, a 1278 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: dirty war like it had more of a negative connotation 1279 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: because of what you guys are saying, you're sort of 1280 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 1: caught in between positions. But now and it has gone 1281 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: away a little bit, it's like it's almost like a 1282 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: positive in a weird way because it means like you're 1283 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 1: positionally flexible and you can play sort of a couple positions. 1284 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 1: You're more of the Swiss army knife type of guy. 1285 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 1: So it is funny how it has changed, and it's 1286 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: like adapted in my mind at least we started doing it, 1287 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: because we just don't say it as much as we 1288 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 1: used to say it a lot. He used to come 1289 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 1: up a lot about, oh, that guy's a tweener, and 1290 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 1: even like not just a big like forward center like 1291 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 1: a lot of like two threes or like point guard 1292 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: shooting guard, like of like a smaller shooting guard, like 1293 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: we would bring it up a lot. There, it feels 1294 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: like it's sort of gone away a bit. I think 1295 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: a big part of it is everybody's just way more skilled. 1296 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: There's so much more crossover between positions. Yes, like we're 1297 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: talking about is MOBII one of two big positions? Is 1298 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 1: he the four or the five? 1299 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 3: That's sort of a tweener, buts are like are you 1300 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 3: a guard or a wing? Are you a wing or 1301 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 3: a big? And now that like people just know, like 1302 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 3: Mobley's not a wing. Everybody can agree on that. Yeah, 1303 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 3: he's either a stretch bag or a five. 1304 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 1: Which is he? Yeah, that's right, that's right. It's like 1305 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 1: and and this is again I'm using it as a 1306 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: positive attribute, a positive attribute, attribute attribute. I know who 1307 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: is saying it wrong, which is why I said it 1308 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: just twice. Scotty Barnes to me is like a guy 1309 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: that is like he's a six eight, Like what is he? 1310 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Because he's a six eight power forward that plays center, 1311 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: can play three, four or five and also is the 1312 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 1: point guard at times. So like like I'm again, that's 1313 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 1: like the Swiss army knife sort of guy. Can do 1314 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: a bit of everything. 1315 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why that's how I look at That's why 1316 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 2: I have him mobile is one of those guys too. 1317 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 2: I mean it's different. 1318 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he is. 1319 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 2: He can do everything on the floor other than score 1320 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 2: as a big as a center. He can't do that, 1321 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 2: but sometimes he can't. Sometimes he can't. I known and. 1322 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Harden had a nice connection when Alan was out and 1323 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 1: Mobley shot like seventy. 1324 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why they may try trade Jared Allen, 1325 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 2: I guess. But then you're asking a lot of him 1326 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 2: either way, you're paying him a ton man should be awesome, 1327 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 2: thank you. 1328 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1329 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why it was weird that Kenny came back. 1330 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 2: Kenny thought he was going to turn him into a 1331 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 2: superstar last offseason. That's what he said. He expected him 1332 01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 2: to be take another step and and happened obviously. But yeah, 1333 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 2: I hear. I just think we don't even talk about 1334 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 2: really like the three, the four of the five anymore. 1335 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 2: It's just you know, your guards, wings and bigs. Yeah, exactly, 1336 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 2: it's not. There's no Lonnie Baxter anymore. There's just there's 1337 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 2: no Gary Trent anymore. You know, you know, those guys 1338 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 2: are gone. But anyways, I hope everybody got their Corlis 1339 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 2: Williamson news uh KO R M twenty two in the 1340 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 2: stream team said I'm here for the Corlis Williamson news. 1341 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 2: Hope you got it. 1342 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: Ive cor he was he was was he a tweener. 1343 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like yeah, because he was not that tall, right, 1344 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: He's like he's like six seven. Yeah, he's six seven, 1345 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 1: but played a lot bigger I guess or could Yeah. 1346 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean he didn't have the playmaking abilities like Draymond Green. 1347 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 1: But that guy's six' six and he's a. Center really 1348 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: for at least his team IS i guess Is Corlus? 1349 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 3: Williamson is he just in nineteen Nineties Julius randall kind 1350 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 3: Of you're big and strong and that's how you. 1351 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 2: Score julius could shoot. 1352 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: Us julius is. Better Courles williams have like peaked a college, 1353 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 1: REALLY i, mean had a FINE nba career six man 1354 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 1: and he he did win six. Man, wow that's pretty. 1355 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 2: Impressive and he won a. TITLE i, mean, yeah he's 1356 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 2: doing smelling salts on the. Spurs it all leads back 1357 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 2: to smelling. Eventually next question, here what's? Up No Dunk's, 1358 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 2: crew Not. Bill The knicks have a chance to win 1359 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 2: both THE nba title AND Nba cup in the same. 1360 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 2: SEASON i feel like this hardly gets talked about In european. 1361 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 2: Football winning the domestic double is a huge, thing remembered 1362 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 2: by fan bases forever but what should this feat be? 1363 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 2: Called in THE? Nba and is THE Nba cup finally 1364 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 2: shaping up to be the best predictor for AN Nba finals? 1365 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,439 Speaker 2: APPEARANCE i didn't read that. Right and is THE Nba 1366 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Cup final shaping up to be the best predictor for 1367 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 2: AN Nba finals? Appearance see The pacers from last, year 1368 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 2: The nicks and potentially The spurs this. Year that's From 1369 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 2: martin In, Berlin. Germany so what should this be? 1370 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 1: Called, Okay i've got one, suggestion all, right hear me out? 1371 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 1: Here the double as they do call it in football or, 1372 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 1: soccer THE Nba cup and THE Nba finals or THE Nba. 1373 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: Championship one is one in the, winter one is one 1374 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:28,280 Speaker 1: in the. Summer The Silver Solstice, okay, okay the, solstices, 1375 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 1: right we, Got i'm? Familiar? Yes and then silver because 1376 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: this Is Adam silver's. Baby it just sounds. Fun so 1377 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 1: that's WHAT i want to call this, Nice, yeah, yeah 1378 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. 1379 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 3: That Or Vegas, larry The Vegas. LARRY i Had emmy And, 1380 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 3: LARRY Nba, Cup cup and ball ball if you get them. 1381 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 3: Both does The larry fit in top of The? EMMY 1382 01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 3: i don't think. SO i don't think it seems like 1383 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 3: the ball as much bigger than the, cup but, YEAH 1384 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 3: i mean that. Might golden double is a sounds like 1385 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 3: something you would order at, McDonald's but also a very 1386 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 3: standard way of addressing this sort of. Thing would you 1387 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 3: consider yourself a dynasty if you win two championships in one? 1388 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 2: Season? 1389 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no nobody's ever done it. 1390 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 2: Before. None mm. Hmm, no this will be. 1391 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: Big this will be. 1392 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 3: Big off at the very least cup curses. Over feel 1393 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 3: free to use that champagne. Room our Guy keith is always. Lamenting, 1394 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 3: yeah he's setting up these beautiful champagne. Rooms and then 1395 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 3: nobody wants to celebrate after winning THE Nba cup because 1396 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 3: The lakers and The bucks fell short of expectations the 1397 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 3: first two. 1398 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 1: Years, yeah so nobody wants to party in that. Room 1399 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 1: And i'm saying you can party in that. Room you 1400 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 1: want a cup put on your, head act? Silly, yeah 1401 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 1: nobody acilly with the, cup and don't worry about the 1402 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: immediate fall off that your team is inevitably going to 1403 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: have the week's. Following, yeah It's, january don't give a. Ship, 1404 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 1: yeah just you, know get back on the same page 1405 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 1: as the season goes on and start clicking like The knicks. 1406 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 3: Are. 1407 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: Okay there's a lot of suggestions, there like a cup and. 1408 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: Ball you Said emmy And LARRY i Said. Vegas, Larry oh, yeah, 1409 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 1: yeah what do. 1410 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 2: You got because there's The vegas, connection which this will 1411 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 2: never be, done but BECAUSE i think number, one THE 1412 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 2: nba wants to get away from The Las vegas. Thing 1413 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 2: they may not be In vegas in the, future BUT 1414 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 2: i think the double down is a. Possibility double, down, 1415 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 2: ye scambling and double a double Under now that's just 1416 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 2: the ability to skip rope and jump over it twice 1417 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 2: and jump once it have a double. 1418 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 1: Under that's a double. 1419 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 2: Under, yeah it's not, great but we could have, players you, 1420 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 2: know doing promotional videos and seeing if they could do 1421 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 2: that as they go into the. Championships that'll never, happen 1422 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 2: or could, That yeah we could do. That let's do. 1423 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 2: That or the double. Door let's Get Tim robinson. INVOLVED 1424 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 2: i think you should leave goes both. Ways it goes both. 1425 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Ways you OPEN Nba, cup open the other WAY Nba. 1426 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 2: Championship just you, know you can get. It those cheesy 1427 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 2: videos that, happen like the logo for THE Nba cup 1428 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 2: pops up you open. It the other way goes both. 1429 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 2: Ways there's The Larry, oh. 1430 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 3: All, Right beanzo says The solomon. SWEEP i don't Think 1431 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 3: Victor solomon don't too. Bad we can't let him get 1432 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 3: his hands on the. Leg do not let him touch. 1433 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 3: It we already love The solomon, sweep though if he, 1434 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 3: did all? Right final question? 1435 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: Here what's? Up guy's huge fan been listening for nearly a. 1436 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Decade now we Know Chet holmgren is a good, player All, 1437 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: star all defensive, player top three draft, pick key contributor 1438 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 1: on a top team in the. League, however when he 1439 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 1: faces off against The spurs And victor Wemen, yama he 1440 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: seemed to shrink and drastically. Struggle so this was sent 1441 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 1: in Before game. Five much better In game. Five wemby 1442 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 1: has been very, vocal both on and off the court 1443 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 1: about his feelings when facing off Against. Chet here's the, 1444 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,160 Speaker 1: question what are some other times you've seen players try 1445 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 1: to gain the mental edge in a? Matchup that's From 1446 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 1: corey In San. Antonio anyone got? 1447 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 2: ANYTHING i always, love referring To Kevin garnet Versus Tim. 1448 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 2: Duncan Kevin garnett known for trying to get in some 1449 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,759 Speaker 2: under somebody's skin by being extremely. Vocal But tim wouldn't 1450 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 2: say a, thing and that would Agitate Kevin, garnett as 1451 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 2: he said post career like that would just piss him, 1452 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 2: off and so he would just. Stop but Then tim 1453 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 2: would start pulling out like the two word phrases like 1454 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 2: teeny tiny, cent and they wouldn't even call it a. 1455 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 2: Sense he would just say nice try and then just 1456 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 2: keep on. Going good. One he didn't say it as 1457 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:52,799 Speaker 2: soft as, that But, michael his voice got so much higher. 1458 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 1: That would be hilarious response. Too all, Right SO u 1459 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 1: and duncan sort of mental. Battle, yeah what do you? 1460 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:06,640 Speaker 2: Got T. 1461 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 3: K i instantly flashed back to the nineteen ninety SIX Nba, 1462 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 3: Finals bulls Versus. Sonics The bulls Had Dennis rodman obviously an, 1463 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 3: irritant so The sonics thought they were going to get 1464 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 3: into his head by Sending Frank brokowski out there just 1465 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 3: a rough Up, rodman And rodman knew what was, happening 1466 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,800 Speaker 3: and you can see him like staring Down Frank brokowski 1467 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 3: and just baiting him into flagrant files and. Technicals Frank 1468 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 3: brokowski got kicked out of game one and game, three 1469 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 3: And rodman played like an awesome series and this. One 1470 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,640 Speaker 3: so that was it for me trying to get the 1471 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 3: mental edgend having it completely bad. 1472 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 1: Backfire, yeah great. Stuff thank, You, corey thank you who. 1473 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 3: Do we have? 1474 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 1: There martin And nathan for sending his email to. EVERYBODY 1475 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 1: i can't wait to Hear Zach low get that one, 1476 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,680 Speaker 1: too all, Right love by love bye of to. Night 1477 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: sponsored By Matthew Grammer. Adams matthew writes in this is 1478 01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 1: not A. Mattio i'm shocked. Here this is A matthew Matty. 1479 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Ga matthew writes in task was listing off all the 1480 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 1: different podcast services people listen to No, dunkton AND i 1481 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 1: heard a what the hell is A? Deezer all, right 1482 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,160 Speaker 1: that was, said fair. Question i'm A deezer, customer AND 1483 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 1: i switched To deezer From spotify BECAUSE i got sick 1484 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Of spotify pushing and probably creating a bunch of CRAP 1485 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 1: ai music in their crap system generated. Playlists, Listen i'm 1486 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: AN ai, guy like he says this both for working at, 1487 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,479 Speaker 1: home but keep the beep boop clanker shit out of my. 1488 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 1: Music deezer promises not to recommend or generate ANY ai 1489 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 1: music and so far it seems like that promise is. 1490 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 1: True so what a fantastic way to sponsor woboye here 1491 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: to build up The deezer fans and maybe crap On 1492 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 1: spotify a little bit and then ps for a man 1493 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,639 Speaker 1: that has never been wrong about. Anything, EVER jd doesn't speak. 1494 01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 1: Enough every time he, SPEAKS i give him an. 1495 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 2: Amen so there you, go J. 1496 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 1: D more? Thoughts do you have thoughts On? Deezer i'm in. 1497 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1498 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah you don't want the beat boop clanker ship in your. 1499 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:13,800 Speaker 1: MUSIC i don't do. 1500 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 4: THAT i don't do the the, jed The spotify generated 1501 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 4: playlists Or apple. 1502 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:20,679 Speaker 2: Music. 1503 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 4: Yeah AS i said, BEFORE i am a serious satellite. 1504 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 1: Guy, yeah people were a radio people were a little. 1505 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 1: CONCERNED i, saw ironically in The spotify comments about how 1506 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: much you're paying for serious except. Radio oh, yeah you're 1507 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:37,320 Speaker 1: paying way too much of. 1508 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 4: HER i pulled that number out of my. 1509 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 2: Ass, ACTUALLY i don't know how much it. Is spotify is. 1510 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 4: More, YEAH i know people, monthly it's, anyways, WHATEVER i 1511 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 4: gotta look at my, finance. 1512 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:54,280 Speaker 3: My. 1513 01:11:54,439 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 4: FINANCE i have one, finance serious satellite. Radio it's great 1514 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 4: to get A. Deezer we also got a tuning in 1515 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,160 Speaker 4: from Media. Monkey just another that's From kyler on sub 1516 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 4: stack said he's listening to the show on media. 1517 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 2: Monkey. 1518 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 1: WHY i just want to know, Why Like i'm just 1519 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 1: more you, know what's the what's their big? Thing are 1520 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 1: they doing. 1521 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:23,880 Speaker 2: Differently instead of a good, day sweet? World it starts 1522 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,760 Speaker 2: with a one of our. PODCASTS i don't know. 1523 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 1: You think they just? 1524 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 5: SO i guess, okay, OKAY i would support. That just 1525 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,840 Speaker 5: put a monkey noise in every, podcast all. 1526 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 3: RIGHT i do like that people are coming out of the, 1527 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,680 Speaker 3: woodwork finally getting to see their plot podcast platform getting some. 1528 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 1: Love, yes, yes we respect and all of. You that's 1529 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 1: wherever you download listen to. Us, Yes, Deezer, okay whoa? Boy, 1530 01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 1: Well monkey of The NIGHT, sga that's your world. Boy 1531 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 1: game high thirty two. Points, look he hit a lot 1532 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,559 Speaker 1: of free throws sixteen to. Seventeen he was just seven 1533 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 1: to nineteen from the. Field nine, assists two, boards two, 1534 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,880 Speaker 1: steals one, block thirty seven minutes. Played as we started 1535 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 1: this podcast and breaking down the, game it's a it's 1536 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: a weird. Game it's like it was good but it. 1537 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 1: Wasn't but it's also sort of what you want from 1538 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 1: your superstar when his shot isn't falling and when the, 1539 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 1: JUMPER i mean he just kept missing, those you, know 1540 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,439 Speaker 1: not all of, them but a lot of like his 1541 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 1: patent had got to his spot rise. 1542 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 2: Up, yeah hit in the back of the. 1543 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:35,920 Speaker 1: Rim he just could not get the touch. 1544 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,120 Speaker 2: Going he made he feel. Unimpact he also Made wemby 1545 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 2: sort of drop on. That ooh did he? 1546 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 1: Ever yeah he near that, hand nearly touched. 1547 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 2: Earth, yeah but it just. Didn't it was that was 1548 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 2: a whole. 1549 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 1: Play it was one of his beautiful. Buckets so, yeah, 1550 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 1: anyway he gets wild, boy it was you. Know obviously 1551 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,920 Speaker 1: McCain had a good, Game cruise had a good. Game 1552 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 1: BUT i think overall the nine asist is the nine 1553 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,320 Speaker 1: a syst and some defense. Too thirty seven minutes played 1554 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 1: for s G. A all, right we'll call it. There 1555 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,800 Speaker 1: no game on. Tonight the hell are we gonna do? 1556 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 1: Tomorrow we got who we got in THE Nhl. 1557 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:17,640 Speaker 2: Habs Versus, Hurricanes okays Versus abs are up right. 1558 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,240 Speaker 1: Now they're down two games to one For. Carolina but 1559 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,240 Speaker 1: it's In. Montreal, okay this a must, win must, win 1560 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 1: must win for The. Apps you gotta do. 1561 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,000 Speaker 2: It you can come back from three to one in, hockey. 1562 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 1: If you don't want they've come back from three? 1563 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 3: OH i, think, right, yeah that's weird to like be 1564 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 3: watching the game and they're, like only four teams has 1565 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 3: come back from three. Oh that's not very, many but 1566 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 3: more than, zero which we still are somehow incredibly at in, 1567 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,679 Speaker 3: basketball and IS i don't, know it's, weird, right, yeah 1568 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 3: it's something more weird that like a team hasn't gone 1569 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,040 Speaker 3: up three, oh and then like a drastic injury has 1570 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,759 Speaker 3: taken out somebody like a superstar, player and then then they. Rally, 1571 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 3: yeah but how many times has a team even forced 1572 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:55,240 Speaker 3: the game? 1573 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 2: Seven it's very few. Between we just had The Miami boston. One. 1574 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah a couple of, years a couple we've, had there's 1575 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:02,560 Speaker 1: been a. 1576 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,439 Speaker 2: Couple you're, right five. 1577 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 1: RARE i don't think it. 1578 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 2: IS i don't think it. 1579 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 1: Is, Anyway, anyway we'll figure out something to talk. About 1580 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 1: send your questions. In we'll be here at ten am 1581 01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 1: story to talk about THE nba news and maybe hit 1582 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 1: the beach and whatever other fun we get. Into and 1583 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 1: then we of course we'll have On, friday game six 1584 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 1: of The Western Conference finals to break. Down appreciate you joining, 1585 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 1: us hit the like, button, subscribe five star ratings and, 1586 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 1: reviews and uh, yeah leave your comments on whatever podcast 1587 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 1: platform you're allowed to these Days. Spotify, yes these are 1588 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 1: no idea check the dser comments the media monkey what 1589 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: is it called. 1590 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 2: No more monkey sounds because somebody in the stream team 1591 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 2: said task that noise made my dog bark right after the. Monkey, 1592 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:53,760 Speaker 2: yeah then that's living ROOM tv DASH f one j 1593 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,679 Speaker 2: that said, That so maybe we're on living room. SPEAKERS 1594 01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,680 Speaker 2: i don't, Know Maybe i'm connecting a lot of thing 1595 01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 2: that would be. Loud have monkey for a, dog. 1596 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 1: They have great hearing. 1597 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 2: Though well, yeah that's a good. Point he could be 1598 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 2: in the bedroom hearing THE. 1599 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,720 Speaker 1: Tv so the number one thing they do not tell 1600 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 1: you before you get a dog is how many commercials 1601 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 1: and television shows just have dogs barking in. Them m, 1602 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 1: hm that's a Great it's. Unbelievable, Really, yes at least 1603 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 1: THE Tv i'm, watching there's a lot of. Dogs, WELL 1604 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,520 Speaker 1: i mean we just started a rewatch Of The leftovers 1605 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,000 Speaker 1: and in the first season there's a lot of dogs barking, 1606 01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,599 Speaker 1: Dogs and IT'S i gotta be ready with the mute button, 1607 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 1: now because Like, luna just like, whoa and she like 1608 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 1: just wants to get into THE tv. Anyway just be 1609 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:49,360 Speaker 1: careful out. There if you're gonna get a, dog it's gonna. Change, yeah, 1610 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,760 Speaker 1: yeah there is commercials you'll just it'll blow your. Mind 1611 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:57,479 Speaker 1: how many commercials have a? Dog people love. Dogs, yeah 1612 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 1: that's WHY i love. Them, yeah never a problem FOR. 1613 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,880 Speaker 2: O good that you went, deaf so that. 1614 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 1: Helps and then she really didn't. Care it's so, weird 1615 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,479 Speaker 1: Like luna does not care about, fireworks which is, good that's. 1616 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 1: Great which some dogs freak. Out oh, yeah but, yeah 1617 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:16,639 Speaker 1: dog on A tv barking. 1618 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 2: Away she's. 1619 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,800 Speaker 1: Interested she can't figure it, out just like it's, There 1620 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,439 Speaker 1: how DO i get to? It she'll just go right 1621 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 1: up to. It, Okay clipper, bros you heard it here, 1622 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,719 Speaker 1: first have a great, time turn. Up love you guys. 1623 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 2: Awesome thanks for joining, us and remember everything in, moderation 1624 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:42,799 Speaker 2: especially figs too many fis do. Something too many figs too? Many, Yesterday, 1625 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:43,600 Speaker 2: YEAH i. 1626 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 3: Was wondering if you're gonna pull out this bag of 1627 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,640 Speaker 3: crunch you got, here show it to show it to the. 1628 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:52,960 Speaker 1: Crowd people love it when you spawn an. Item he 1629 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 1: just brings the weirdest like. 1630 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 2: Like lazy lunch, person SO i just grab something rather 1631 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 2: than a full. Lunch and these are. Stale you don't want, 1632 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,640 Speaker 2: These you're good with, you with. 1633 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,560 Speaker 1: You we can't be sure that that's what's in that 1634 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,759 Speaker 1: bag because you many times like we'll just have something 1635 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 1: else in the. 1636 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 2: Bank might be a fig because they had too many, 1637 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 2: Yesterday so can't he throw them? 1638 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:22,160 Speaker 1: Today Catalina, crunch this is protein. 1639 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 2: Cereal that's what a fill do to? 1640 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 1: You, hey CAN i offer you in a in a 1641 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,160 Speaker 1: in a high Protein meatsta Loves Catalina. 1642 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 2: Crunch actually, wow really, yeah he sponsored these because crunch. 1643 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 2: Crunch it's just not. 1644 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,720 Speaker 1: Hold. On dogs are going to be freaking out here in. 1645 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: This dogs hate, You dogs hate chewing race the day 1646 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:49,360 Speaker 1: people