WEBVTT - An Insider joins to preview the Draft | Texans All Access 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.560 Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark Vandermain and 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:05.600 John Harris with you. A little bit later on Jonathan 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:09.040 Alexander from the Houston Chronicle will join us. Busy week, 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.440 of course, with the NFL Draft happening this week, and 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.560 yesterday we had Henry Too Too on and that interview. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:16.520 I believe it is up on. 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:20.480 YouTube already, but certainly available in podcast form on Spotify 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:24.360 or the Texans app or wherever you get your podcast, 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.440 So check out Henry, who was wonderful yesterday. We'll talk 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.520 about the thread running through all these players that we've 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.519 been hearing speak this week because offseason conditioning has begun 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.160 and the draft, Johnny, it's getting ready. Forty eight hours 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.000 from now, will be in the on deck circle of 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.519 the draft, and seven o'clock Thursday it begins. 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.519 You me Andre, We will be. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.920 On the air Thursday night bringing you all the picks, 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:53.000 and back Friday with Robert Hensley and Saturday Sean Pendergast 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.080 joins the flow, and it's going to be fun to 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.640 cover everything. It's Woodstock was called three days of peace, 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:04.560 love and music, days of picks, trades and craziness and emotions, 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:08.200 and it's wonderful, and it's also all dressed up in 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.399 no place to go. That's how I feel about the draft. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.880 Some sense you can all hyper and labber it up 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:15.840 and all of a sudden it's like, Okay, we'll see 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:16.639 in four months. 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:18.240 Yeah, we're just calling a bunch of names. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.479 Yeah, it's a it's calling a buds and names, and it's. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.959 Gonna be like this guy hasn't earned anything. Has he 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.800 earned anything? Now he knows that it's got a name called. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.440 Whoever he picks, he has high hopes for, no question 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.479 about that. They've done all their research and we'll get 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.160 into a bunch of stuff with Jonathan, but I want 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.880 to get your before we talk about draft. We heard 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.800 from CJ. Gardner Johnson. We'll ask Jonathan about that later. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.720 But this was a very entertaining press conference today, and 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.040 I thought, Oh, this is gonna be a lot of 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.760 fun having CJ. Gardner Johnson around. And all the guys 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.400 were talking about him yesterday already. Can you imagine if 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.040 he's like that at the podium, what's he like in 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:53.760 the locker room. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.360 He's a ball of fire, a ball of energy. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.400 And Will said something to the effect of, oh, it's 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:00.360 great to have more route. 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.400 He lightens it up. You know we're so serious. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.680 Yes, and I didn't get that impression of the Texans 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.280 that they're too serious. But man, you can't help up 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.600 be light and energetic with a guy like CJ. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.960 Gardner Johnson in the room. One of the. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.600 Things that stood out to me, and I've thought about this, 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.079 you know, my first year and here was twenty fourteen, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:25.000 and so you get a look at just the entire 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:29.720 thing and every single week and how stressful every single. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.840 Week is in the NFL. I mean, it is that stressful. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.880 You weren't rolling out the balls and playing you know, 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:37.600 Holy Sprite University Tech. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.399 You know, you're playing another. 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.480 Team that's got the same number of scholarships you do, 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:43.720 and it's stressful. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.359 I don't care if you're. 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.040 Playing a team that's two and fifteen in week seventeen 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.800 or whatever the case might be, or you're playing the 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.680 Ravens or Bills or Chiefs. I mean, it's that stressful. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:59.120 So for anything that stressful, if you don't have a release, 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.520 and for a lot of people, me I know myself, 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:07.320 I know, happiness, laughter, joy, that's my release. Even though 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.880 I look serious all the time, it's like I need 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.080 even when I was coaching many many years ago, like 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.639 I had to have humor. I had at some point, 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:19.960 somebody had to break the tent the U what is it? 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.040 You cut the tension with a knife? Yeah, you know 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:24.880 that's that was kind of the way. I felt like, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.640 somebody's got to do it. If I didn't do it, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.400 I needed somebody to do it. And the leaders of 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.120 my team, thankfully, and they were senior's a high schooler, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:35.400 so it's a little different, but they were able to 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.760 do that. And I think if you have that around, 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.800 you need to have that, you have some joy. You 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.000 can't just well, we won a game sixteen thirteen. We 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.520 didn't do this, We didn't do that. We need blah 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.280 blah Blah'm gonna go eat fi hetaes and go home 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.400 and that's all you do. No, I mean that you 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.120 won an NFL football game. There should be some even 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.880 small level of joy in doing that. And if you 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:58.600 don't have that, then you're done. You're toasting. And Dimiko 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.280 talked about this on that very thing, like you need 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.440 like you see him, that's why he has that energy, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.760 that spirit because it lifts everybody. But I promise you 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.080 are the times where he needs a lift too. Yeah, 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.640 and having a guy like CJ. Gardner Johnson in here 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.640 will give you a little bit of that. He'll also 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.560 give you a nice little swift kick in the backside 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.000 if you need it too. He's honest, and he talked 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.000 about what that Super Bowl kind of that super win 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.880 last year kind of did for him and how he 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.839 looked at football and his mindset and all that kind 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.920 of stuff. So I think he's gonna be really fun 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.800 to have him. I think it's gonna be necessary to 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:40.800 have him. But man, that defense has some bite. These 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:45.040 dogs don't just bark. There's gonna be some bite with 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.040 the way they play that entire unit. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.600 We'll think about what Henry said about his ease yesterday, 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.159 and the difference is he's made yep, because he wasn't 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.479 around for Henry's rookie year, certainly around for Henry's second 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.719 year where Henry leads a team and tackles. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.839 And it just you felt it. You felt what a. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.440 These meant to him. I talked to as last week. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.080 I ran into him. We ended up talking for like 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.279 ten minutes, just talking about the offseason, and it was 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.080 really a lot of non football type stuff. But it 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.880 further reinforced why I never want him leaving the Houston 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.760 Texans organization for anything. He needs to retire a Texan 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.680 work here forever. I want him doing anything in this 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.479 building possible, because I love is. He's al Shire and 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.160 I think a lot of people feel that way about him. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:28.240 Can I tell you a story too? 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:32.120 Okay, So I wouldn't normally tell the story, but it 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:33.840 kind of goes right along with what you were just saying. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.400 So a pp beyond a curtain. A lot of times 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:41.880 offensive defense don't live together. I've known players like I 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.920 met Carnell Lake a long long time ago, and he's 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:44.440 great dude. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:45.479 He was in Jacksonville. 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.680 He had moved to Jaguars, but he's working on Episcopal 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.640 and I asked him about Alan Fanicat. 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.520 Alan Fanicat had played for my dad. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.000 My dad was a coach of the market Solid Allen 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.960 had played the and so I was asking Carnell Lake 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.560 about Alan Fanica and he had no idea. So offensive 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.520 defensive players don't a lot of times cohabitate. Now I 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.760 think here in Houston it's a little bit better. So 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.800 I'm kind of walking behind him and I see asease. 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.360 He's in front of me by about five ten yards. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.680 He's walking with somebody and he literally stops. He sees 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.000 a guy walking and it was an offensive lineman. I 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.160 think I'm pretty sure it was just I can tell 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.640 my size, body type, etc. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.280 And I thought it was an offensive lineman. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.120 And as I went by, I can hear them not 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:33.240 talking about ball, but just talking about how you're doing family. Okay, 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.919 Like he stopped an offensive lineman in the hallway to 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.760 talk to him. I said, to literally talk to him, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.680 make sure he's okay. Taking that a responsibility as a 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.960 leader of the team to check on everybody's well being. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.000 So anybody that wants to move that guy out of Houston, 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.200 get him out of Houston. Or the contract is this 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.320 The contract is that you can miss me with that noise, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:59.359 because championship teams have guys like that on the team. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.560 And we missed him for three games badly. Yeah, even 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.800 though we talked about Henry taking the green dot, we 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.080 still miss disease. And when he was hurt a little 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.280 bit earlier in the year. Yes, Neville did a great job. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.360 Neville Hugh in his place, and Jake did a good 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.520 job on the field. Against Green Bay. But we missed him. 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.160 We missed him. We have to have that kind of 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.120 feel for seventeen games. He is for all the guys 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.600 that are in his build, that guy is the one 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.680 that stands up in front of everybody and look, Will 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.760 gets everybody excited and hyped. But Disease is the one 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.040 that is. I mean, it feels like he's the caretaker 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.760 of the group. And I'll I'll take that all day 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:34.960 every day, to be honest. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.960 But I saw that. I was like, man, that dude's different. Dude, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:38.800 he is just different. 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.040 And when he missed the three games, you know, everyone 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.000 talked about, oh, he's losing this much money whatever. I'll 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.480 bet he obviously you're gonna think about the money a 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.800 little bit. But it's the responsibility he feels to be 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:50.960 here for the team. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.040 Right because he knows we're not playing great against Kansas 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:54.000 City or Baltimore. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:54.520 Yeah, he knows. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.600 That's a huge reason why he's here is to be 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.560 a leader. It's not just for playmaking ability. It's to 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.680 lead the others, especially some of these young guys. So 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.800 many young players on this team who are maturing because 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:08.840 a lot of these guys starting to get paid right now. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.680 We heard from Gellen Petrie today getting paid, darn Stingley 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.000 Junior getting paid. You know, all these guys who are 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.880 getting their contracts done. That's fantastic. That means Nick Cassio 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.960 has drafted well. And you have to get into a 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.720 situation where you reward these guys. You can't keep everybody. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.000 We said that from the get go, but they're doing 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.000 a remarkable job hanging on to these players. And wait 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.680 till next year. It's gonna get really interested. Speaking of 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.160 next year, one of those guys will be Will Anderson Junior. Yes, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.880 and he spoke this week and I thought I was 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.120 listening to him. I thought, Johnny A right now, he's 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.000 in his third year. These guys in their third year 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.160 are salty veterans now, and I thought this could not 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.840 have gotten off to a much better start for Will 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.040 Anderson Junior. And I think about Mario Williams. I think 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.080 about Jodevian Clowney. These guys were number one overall picks. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.960 Will's the number three overall pick. If Will had put up, 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.800 if those guys said put up the numbers that Will 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.960 is putting up, can you imagine how elated the fan 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.080 base would have been. Now, Mario had a great second year, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.880 and Cloudy certainly made plays in his second year, but 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:17.160 Will Anderson Junior is off to a rip roaring start here, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.240 and I would have been shouting Hall of Fame for 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.040 Cloudy because there's something about being. 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.559 The number one overall pick. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.240 And when you back it up with double digit sacks 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.720 and defensive Rookie of the Year and all that stuff, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.400 you're thinking, Okay, we're on our way to Canton. It's early, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.000 but we're on the right road, the right road, the 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.800 correct path. That's a great way of putting it. 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.000 So I don't know why this is, but on my computer, 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:41.960 whenever I want to get to Google Docs, I just 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.160 type into the little bar at the top of this 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:49.240 type dcsah, and it says when I hit return, just 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.880 I do docs and I hit return, and that gets me. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:57.320 For some reason, it always pulls up my twenty twenty three, 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.160 the first version of my Harris one hundred out and 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.160 so the very first version that year. 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.560 All right, So what was that was Will number one? 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.400 Will was number one? Let me see how close I 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.680 got here? So this is two years ago, two years 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.120 This is original verse. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:17.040 So this is the summer of twenty three, No, twenty two, 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:17.920 number twenty two. 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:19.800 All right, So this is before they played the twenty 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.120 twenty three season NFL, I mean college. 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.280 No, this is before they played the twenty two season, 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:25.720 the last one in college. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:25.959 Yeah. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.440 Yeah, before CJ had that five season the spring of 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:30.120 twenty twenty two. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:30.760 Okay, go ahead. 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.240 I had Will Anderson number one, all right, And I 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.040 said a little bit at the beginning, and then I said. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.160 His twitch and hands are top notch. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.440 His explosive to his explosiveness to and through run blockers 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.400 is extraordinary. His quickness on loops and stunts inside is 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.439 the match. He's violent in all the best ways in 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.560 the field. He has a knack for playing his best 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.040 in big games. He can control blockers with a strength 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.360 and power. He has burst off the edge for days. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.200 His first step is blazing fast off the snap, bend 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.720 power hands. He beats guards with power, He beats light, 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.200 quid tackles with speeds. He is the alpha in a 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.319 program with dozens of them. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:06.400 He's number one. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.480 He's number one all day long, and barring some unforeseen 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.600 disastroby number one in April two. Okay, Well, there are 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.719 quarterbacks that went in front of him. Yeah, you get 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.640 the point. That was my That was my Who's number two? 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:19.280 Bry Shung? 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:20.000 Okay? 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.240 You want to you want to? Okay, now that we're 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.880 going down the street. Yeah, number three was one. 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.240 Coleridge Stroud the fourth. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.680 All right, So you had the first three picks correct. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.840 This is prior to the twenty twenty two college prior 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.920 to the twenty twenty first three picks correct? 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.200 Not in the right order? Yeah, not not in the 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:38.680 right order. 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.240 I had Will first, Bryce, second in CJ. So I 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:47.080 think I finished with I think I finished it with 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.520 Bryce Will CJ. 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.200 Who's fourth? Jalen Carter? Nice? 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.480 Yeah, those are the four that I had. Those are 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.160 the four that I ended up having. Now, then I 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.000 went to the couple of Clemson guys, which I missed 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:01.440 a little bit. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.760 I had Jackson Smith and Jay but eight, Michael Mayer ninth. 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.679 Yeah, but you're also evaluated without their final college season, right, 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.560 That's a little difficult. So flying blind right there. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.280 So we had a little fun after we were done 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.360 with our interview with Henry. I had Henry number fifty 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.760 two to start with, and he ended up going to 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.319 the fifth round. He fell a little bit and I 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.400 don't know that he had ultimately the greatest season in 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.559 twenty twenty three, But as he was kind of looking 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.120 over my shoulder, I was like, check it out, Henry 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.720 the cop I had for you and I was like 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.679 Lavata David the Bucks. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:34.880 And he loved it. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.080 He loved it. But I looked at it and I'm like, 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.320 whoa this is? This is pretty close on Henry. 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:41.880 Okay. 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.000 He's long and rangy, with gap feeling, runs, stopping skills, 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.320 feet are constantly hot, and that keeps him under control 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.520 seemingly at all times. It's a factor in coverage. He 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.400 transitioned into Nick Saban's defense in twenty twenty one. He 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.520 didn't appear then. That didn't appear difficult at all. In fact, 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.400 the story I told him here was in training camp 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.120 at twenty not trying, yeah, twenty camp at twenty twenty one. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:07.040 I had been watching practice and I actually had a 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.079 couple of our scouts. One of them had been I 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.160 think just recently in Alabama, and they're like, TOATOA is 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.360 already running the defense and they knew they knew I 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.800 knew who that was. And I was like, really already, 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.600 it was like he's been there four days, agoes, No, 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:23.440 he's running the defense already, and that came to fruition 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.120 because what did we ask him to do against the 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:26.240 Dolphins run the defense? 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:27.920 He didn't run a defense, and he did. He did 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:28.520 a great job. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.800 And then I pointed out in there there was a 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.839 play against Cincinnati, kind of point out as intelligence where 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.960 they're playing against Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl and he 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.240 sees a play, he sees something, he knows something that's 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.480 coming in so he signals Christian Harris. He gives Christian 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.199 a signal to let him know what's coming, and the 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.720 play just develops exactly the way you could. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.240 You could tell he knew what was coming. He's kind 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.319 of pointing in that direction. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.600 Kind of getting Christian's attention, and they ended up making 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.480 a stop out of it. And I was like, this, 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.800 this dude's on a different, you know, mentality. I think 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.400 if he has a little better year in twenty twenty 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.719 two in college, I think we don't have a chance 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.320 to get him at a fifth round at all. But 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.120 I've been a big fan of Henry for a long time, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.120 so it's like going back and looking at at these 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.640 The other one that I had in here I think 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:20.840 that all at number ninety two, ninety two Dylan Horton 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:26.239 defensive end TCU. Before the twenty twenty two season even started, 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.960 I had Dylan Horton there, and Dylan Horton ended up 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:30.560 taking him. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.200 And the Texans ended up taking him. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:36.080 The other one that I had in my others receiving 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:40.400 votes was a diminutive wide receiver from the University Houston, 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.760 Tank Dell. Tank Dell in my last two cents is 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.720 he's just tiny, and some teams won't like tiny. That's 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.640 the only thing that holds me back from putting Tank 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.480 in my Harris one hundred dot dot dot right now, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.520 right now, I got I got a pretty good but 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.480 that this pops up every time. And so going back 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.880 to the Will Anderson thing, I see Will's scouting report 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.800 in front of me, and I'm like, that's a guy. 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.600 And there were people that were dogging in for this 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.240 or that. People didn't think that he did have that twitch. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:07.760 I did. 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.120 I thought he had that, But I also thought that 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:11.720 Will was going to be that guy that worked at 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.160 it and worked at it and worked at it, and 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.640 he has and at the time he was two hundred 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.160 and forty one pounds now you see him now, I 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:22.240 think he's probably two fifty ish and so that ten 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.440 pounds has made a lot of difference. I think he 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:28.040 was heavier last year, but I think he's everything. And 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.000 that's the thing. We knew he's now from the locker room. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.800 We knew he'd been productive in college. We'ren't exactly sure 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.120 because Alabama used him in a lot of different ways, 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.000 like how exactly he's an NFL team going. 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.560 To use him, But that guy is. That guy has 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:41.920 come to. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:47.080 Play every single time and been that guy. And I 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.240 just I love the fact that two of the three 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.080 guys I have in this Harris one hundred from beginning 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.080 that spring have turned out to be the rock star 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:57.520 leaders on both sides of the ball. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:58.440 For this team. It's just incredible. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.760 Think about absolutely top three and that became the top 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.880 three in the draft, and we all know how history 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.000 played out so far for the Houston Texans through two 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:10.720 seasons of the Demico CJ. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.280 Stroud era. Okay, Draft coming up Thursday. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.120 I don't need to remind you of this, but Johnny, 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.240 I'm gonna ask Jonathan Alexander of this in a few minutes. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.160 So I'm gonna ask you right now, Okay, we're gonna 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.720 be at the draft party on Thursday night, and the 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.920 Texans picked twenty fifth, what are the chances here of 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:32.280 Nick Casserio trading down ruining the draft party. I joke 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.240 about that because part of me wants to see it 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.280 almost I just want to see people's reaction, Like, do 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.120 they know that this is probably the best thing for 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.560 the football team? If Nick's doing it, you know he's 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:42.880 got a pretty good track record. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.440 I would think that you should buy in. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.920 But I get it people are gonna be all beveraged 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.560 up by pick number twenty five and wanted to see 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.160 a selection. Why did it share somebody on you? At 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.240 that point, you could pick almost anybody. They're gonna cheer it, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.160 especially if it's a big name like Hecker or a 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.399 Mecha Abuca or something like that. But if Nick trades down, 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.200 I want to see this reaction, and I want to 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:08.200 see obviously. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.280 What the hall is and we all will. 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.480 But what do you think the chances are of something 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.200 like that happening on Thursday? 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.639 Yeah, I think there's a decent chance. Decent chance. I 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:16.680 think there's a decent chance. 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.880 I don't know that I would put trade up, trade down, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.879 stick and pick. I don't know that they're really I 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.600 think everybody would say, oh the chalk is you stay 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.080 at pick number twenty five, and just because maybe you 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.199 don't have to rely on another you know, you have 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.000 to rely on another partner to be a trade up 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.840 or a trade down scenario. But there are teams above 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.600 the Texans that Nick's dealt with and dealt with successfully. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.840 There are teams below them he's dealt with and dealt 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.840 with successfully. So I think there's probably I feel like 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.680 like there's a fifty percent chance I take it back, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.880 there's gonna be a sixty percent chance stick and pick, 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.120 and twenty percent either way oo okay of a trade. 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.879 So I just it's gonna get interesting to me. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.240 I think it's more what I'm thinking, what I think 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.360 is happening right now now is teams are calling saying, look, 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.520