Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark Vandermain and
Speaker 1: John Harris with you. A little bit later on Jonathan
Speaker 1: Alexander from the Houston Chronicle will join us. Busy week,
Speaker 1: of course, with the NFL Draft happening this week, and
Speaker 1: yesterday we had Henry Too Too on and that interview.
Speaker 2: I believe it is up on.
Speaker 1: YouTube already, but certainly available in podcast form on Spotify
Speaker 1: or the Texans app or wherever you get your podcast,
Speaker 1: So check out Henry, who was wonderful yesterday. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the thread running through all these players that we've
Speaker 1: been hearing speak this week because offseason conditioning has begun
Speaker 1: and the draft, Johnny, it's getting ready. Forty eight hours
Speaker 1: from now, will be in the on deck circle of
Speaker 1: the draft, and seven o'clock Thursday it begins.
Speaker 2: You me Andre, We will be.
Speaker 1: On the air Thursday night bringing you all the picks,
Speaker 1: and back Friday with Robert Hensley and Saturday Sean Pendergast
Speaker 1: joins the flow, and it's going to be fun to
Speaker 1: cover everything. It's Woodstock was called three days of peace,
Speaker 1: love and music, days of picks, trades and craziness and emotions,
Speaker 1: and it's wonderful, and it's also all dressed up in
Speaker 1: no place to go. That's how I feel about the draft.
Speaker 1: Some sense you can all hyper and labber it up
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's like, Okay, we'll see
Speaker 1: in four months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just calling a bunch of names.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's calling a buds and names, and it's.
Speaker 1: Gonna be like this guy hasn't earned anything. Has he
Speaker 1: earned anything? Now he knows that it's got a name called.
Speaker 1: Whoever he picks, he has high hopes for, no question
Speaker 1: about that. They've done all their research and we'll get
Speaker 1: into a bunch of stuff with Jonathan, but I want
Speaker 1: to get your before we talk about draft. We heard
Speaker 1: from CJ. Gardner Johnson. We'll ask Jonathan about that later.
Speaker 1: But this was a very entertaining press conference today, and
Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, this is gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: fun having CJ. Gardner Johnson around. And all the guys
Speaker 1: were talking about him yesterday already. Can you imagine if
Speaker 1: he's like that at the podium, what's he like in
Speaker 1: the locker room.
Speaker 2: He's a ball of fire, a ball of energy.
Speaker 1: And Will said something to the effect of, oh, it's
Speaker 1: great to have more route.
Speaker 2: He lightens it up. You know we're so serious.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I didn't get that impression of the Texans
Speaker 1: that they're too serious. But man, you can't help up
Speaker 1: be light and energetic with a guy like CJ.
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson in the room. One of the.
Speaker 3: Things that stood out to me, and I've thought about this,
Speaker 3: you know, my first year and here was twenty fourteen,
Speaker 3: and so you get a look at just the entire
Speaker 3: thing and every single week and how stressful every single.
Speaker 2: Week is in the NFL. I mean, it is that stressful.
Speaker 3: You weren't rolling out the balls and playing you know,
Speaker 3: Holy Sprite University Tech.
Speaker 2: You know, you're playing another.
Speaker 3: Team that's got the same number of scholarships you do,
Speaker 3: and it's stressful.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're.
Speaker 3: Playing a team that's two and fifteen in week seventeen
Speaker 3: or whatever the case might be, or you're playing the
Speaker 3: Ravens or Bills or Chiefs. I mean, it's that stressful.
Speaker 3: So for anything that stressful, if you don't have a release,
Speaker 3: and for a lot of people, me I know myself,
Speaker 3: I know, happiness, laughter, joy, that's my release. Even though
Speaker 3: I look serious all the time, it's like I need
Speaker 3: even when I was coaching many many years ago, like
Speaker 3: I had to have humor. I had at some point,
Speaker 3: somebody had to break the tent the U what is it?
Speaker 3: You cut the tension with a knife? Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: that's that was kind of the way. I felt like,
Speaker 3: somebody's got to do it. If I didn't do it,
Speaker 3: I needed somebody to do it. And the leaders of
Speaker 3: my team, thankfully, and they were senior's a high schooler,
Speaker 3: so it's a little different, but they were able to
Speaker 3: do that. And I think if you have that around,
Speaker 3: you need to have that, you have some joy. You
Speaker 3: can't just well, we won a game sixteen thirteen. We
Speaker 3: didn't do this, We didn't do that. We need blah
Speaker 3: blah Blah'm gonna go eat fi hetaes and go home
Speaker 3: and that's all you do. No, I mean that you
Speaker 3: won an NFL football game. There should be some even
Speaker 3: small level of joy in doing that. And if you
Speaker 3: don't have that, then you're done. You're toasting. And Dimiko
Speaker 3: talked about this on that very thing, like you need
Speaker 3: like you see him, that's why he has that energy,
Speaker 3: that spirit because it lifts everybody. But I promise you
Speaker 3: are the times where he needs a lift too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and having a guy like CJ. Gardner Johnson in here
Speaker 3: will give you a little bit of that. He'll also
Speaker 3: give you a nice little swift kick in the backside
Speaker 3: if you need it too. He's honest, and he talked
Speaker 3: about what that Super Bowl kind of that super win
Speaker 3: last year kind of did for him and how he
Speaker 3: looked at football and his mindset and all that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. So I think he's gonna be really fun
Speaker 3: to have him. I think it's gonna be necessary to
Speaker 3: have him. But man, that defense has some bite. These
Speaker 3: dogs don't just bark. There's gonna be some bite with
Speaker 3: the way they play that entire unit.
Speaker 1: We'll think about what Henry said about his ease yesterday,
Speaker 1: and the difference is he's made yep, because he wasn't
Speaker 1: around for Henry's rookie year, certainly around for Henry's second
Speaker 1: year where Henry leads a team and tackles.
Speaker 2: And it just you felt it. You felt what a.
Speaker 1: These meant to him. I talked to as last week.
Speaker 1: I ran into him. We ended up talking for like
Speaker 1: ten minutes, just talking about the offseason, and it was
Speaker 1: really a lot of non football type stuff. But it
Speaker 1: further reinforced why I never want him leaving the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans organization for anything. He needs to retire a Texan
Speaker 1: work here forever. I want him doing anything in this
Speaker 1: building possible, because I love is. He's al Shire and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel that way about him.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you a story too?
Speaker 3: Okay, So I wouldn't normally tell the story, but it
Speaker 3: kind of goes right along with what you were just saying.
Speaker 3: So a pp beyond a curtain. A lot of times
Speaker 3: offensive defense don't live together. I've known players like I
Speaker 3: met Carnell Lake a long long time ago, and he's
Speaker 3: great dude.
Speaker 2: He was in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: He had moved to Jaguars, but he's working on Episcopal
Speaker 3: and I asked him about Alan Fanicat.
Speaker 2: Alan Fanicat had played for my dad.
Speaker 3: My dad was a coach of the market Solid Allen
Speaker 3: had played the and so I was asking Carnell Lake
Speaker 3: about Alan Fanica and he had no idea. So offensive
Speaker 3: defensive players don't a lot of times cohabitate. Now I
Speaker 3: think here in Houston it's a little bit better. So
Speaker 3: I'm kind of walking behind him and I see asease.
Speaker 3: He's in front of me by about five ten yards.
Speaker 3: He's walking with somebody and he literally stops. He sees
Speaker 3: a guy walking and it was an offensive lineman. I
Speaker 3: think I'm pretty sure it was just I can tell
Speaker 3: my size, body type, etc.
Speaker 2: And I thought it was an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: And as I went by, I can hear them not
Speaker 3: talking about ball, but just talking about how you're doing family. Okay,
Speaker 3: Like he stopped an offensive lineman in the hallway to
Speaker 3: talk to him. I said, to literally talk to him,
Speaker 3: make sure he's okay. Taking that a responsibility as a
Speaker 3: leader of the team to check on everybody's well being.
Speaker 3: So anybody that wants to move that guy out of Houston,
Speaker 3: get him out of Houston. Or the contract is this
Speaker 3: The contract is that you can miss me with that noise,
Speaker 3: because championship teams have guys like that on the team.
Speaker 3: And we missed him for three games badly. Yeah, even
Speaker 3: though we talked about Henry taking the green dot, we
Speaker 3: still miss disease. And when he was hurt a little
Speaker 3: bit earlier in the year. Yes, Neville did a great job.
Speaker 3: Neville Hugh in his place, and Jake did a good
Speaker 3: job on the field. Against Green Bay. But we missed him.
Speaker 3: We missed him. We have to have that kind of
Speaker 3: feel for seventeen games. He is for all the guys
Speaker 3: that are in his build, that guy is the one
Speaker 3: that stands up in front of everybody and look, Will
Speaker 3: gets everybody excited and hyped. But Disease is the one
Speaker 3: that is. I mean, it feels like he's the caretaker
Speaker 3: of the group. And I'll I'll take that all day
Speaker 3: every day, to be honest.
Speaker 2: But I saw that. I was like, man, that dude's different. Dude,
Speaker 2: he is just different.
Speaker 1: And when he missed the three games, you know, everyone
Speaker 1: talked about, oh, he's losing this much money whatever. I'll
Speaker 1: bet he obviously you're gonna think about the money a
Speaker 1: little bit. But it's the responsibility he feels to be
Speaker 1: here for the team.
Speaker 3: Right because he knows we're not playing great against Kansas
Speaker 3: City or Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knows.
Speaker 1: That's a huge reason why he's here is to be
Speaker 1: a leader. It's not just for playmaking ability. It's to
Speaker 1: lead the others, especially some of these young guys. So
Speaker 1: many young players on this team who are maturing because
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys starting to get paid right now.
Speaker 1: We heard from Gellen Petrie today getting paid, darn Stingley
Speaker 1: Junior getting paid. You know, all these guys who are
Speaker 1: getting their contracts done. That's fantastic. That means Nick Cassio
Speaker 1: has drafted well. And you have to get into a
Speaker 1: situation where you reward these guys. You can't keep everybody.
Speaker 1: We said that from the get go, but they're doing
Speaker 1: a remarkable job hanging on to these players. And wait
Speaker 1: till next year. It's gonna get really interested. Speaking of
Speaker 1: next year, one of those guys will be Will Anderson Junior. Yes,
Speaker 1: and he spoke this week and I thought I was
Speaker 1: listening to him. I thought, Johnny A right now, he's
Speaker 1: in his third year. These guys in their third year
Speaker 1: are salty veterans now, and I thought this could not
Speaker 1: have gotten off to a much better start for Will
Speaker 1: Anderson Junior. And I think about Mario Williams. I think
Speaker 1: about Jodevian Clowney. These guys were number one overall picks.
Speaker 1: Will's the number three overall pick. If Will had put up,
Speaker 1: if those guys said put up the numbers that Will
Speaker 1: is putting up, can you imagine how elated the fan
Speaker 1: base would have been. Now, Mario had a great second year,
Speaker 1: and Cloudy certainly made plays in his second year, but
Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junior is off to a rip roaring start here,
Speaker 1: and I would have been shouting Hall of Fame for
Speaker 1: Cloudy because there's something about being.
Speaker 2: The number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: And when you back it up with double digit sacks
Speaker 1: and defensive Rookie of the Year and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Okay, we're on our way to Canton. It's early,
Speaker 1: but we're on the right road, the right road, the
Speaker 1: correct path. That's a great way of putting it.
Speaker 3: So I don't know why this is, but on my computer,
Speaker 3: whenever I want to get to Google Docs, I just
Speaker 3: type into the little bar at the top of this
Speaker 3: type dcsah, and it says when I hit return, just
Speaker 3: I do docs and I hit return, and that gets me.
Speaker 3: For some reason, it always pulls up my twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: the first version of my Harris one hundred out and
Speaker 3: so the very first version that year.
Speaker 2: All right, So what was that was Will number one?
Speaker 2: Will was number one? Let me see how close I
Speaker 2: got here? So this is two years ago, two years
Speaker 2: This is original verse.
Speaker 3: So this is the summer of twenty three, No, twenty two,
Speaker 3: number twenty two.
Speaker 1: All right, So this is before they played the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three season NFL, I mean college.
Speaker 3: No, this is before they played the twenty two season,
Speaker 3: the last one in college.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before CJ had that five season the spring of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I had Will Anderson number one, all right, And I
Speaker 3: said a little bit at the beginning, and then I said.
Speaker 2: His twitch and hands are top notch.
Speaker 3: His explosive to his explosiveness to and through run blockers
Speaker 3: is extraordinary. His quickness on loops and stunts inside is
Speaker 3: the match. He's violent in all the best ways in
Speaker 3: the field. He has a knack for playing his best
Speaker 3: in big games. He can control blockers with a strength
Speaker 3: and power. He has burst off the edge for days.
Speaker 3: His first step is blazing fast off the snap, bend
Speaker 3: power hands. He beats guards with power, He beats light,
Speaker 3: quid tackles with speeds. He is the alpha in a
Speaker 3: program with dozens of them.
Speaker 2: He's number one.
Speaker 3: He's number one all day long, and barring some unforeseen
Speaker 3: disastroby number one in April two. Okay, Well, there are
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that went in front of him. Yeah, you get
Speaker 3: the point. That was my That was my Who's number two?
Speaker 3: Bry Shung?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: You want to you want to? Okay, now that we're
Speaker 3: going down the street. Yeah, number three was one.
Speaker 2: Coleridge Stroud the fourth.
Speaker 1: All right, So you had the first three picks correct.
Speaker 1: This is prior to the twenty twenty two college prior
Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty first three picks correct?
Speaker 2: Not in the right order? Yeah, not not in the
Speaker 2: right order.
Speaker 3: I had Will first, Bryce, second in CJ. So I
Speaker 3: think I finished with I think I finished it with
Speaker 3: Bryce Will CJ.
Speaker 2: Who's fourth? Jalen Carter? Nice?
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the four that I had. Those are
Speaker 3: the four that I ended up having. Now, then I
Speaker 3: went to the couple of Clemson guys, which I missed
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 2: I had Jackson Smith and Jay but eight, Michael Mayer ninth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're also evaluated without their final college season, right,
Speaker 1: That's a little difficult. So flying blind right there.
Speaker 3: So we had a little fun after we were done
Speaker 3: with our interview with Henry. I had Henry number fifty
Speaker 3: two to start with, and he ended up going to
Speaker 3: the fifth round. He fell a little bit and I
Speaker 3: don't know that he had ultimately the greatest season in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, But as he was kind of looking
Speaker 3: over my shoulder, I was like, check it out, Henry
Speaker 3: the cop I had for you and I was like
Speaker 3: Lavata David the Bucks.
Speaker 2: And he loved it.
Speaker 3: He loved it. But I looked at it and I'm like,
Speaker 3: whoa this is? This is pretty close on Henry.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: He's long and rangy, with gap feeling, runs, stopping skills,
Speaker 3: feet are constantly hot, and that keeps him under control
Speaker 3: seemingly at all times. It's a factor in coverage. He
Speaker 3: transitioned into Nick Saban's defense in twenty twenty one. He
Speaker 3: didn't appear then. That didn't appear difficult at all. In fact,
Speaker 3: the story I told him here was in training camp
Speaker 3: at twenty not trying, yeah, twenty camp at twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: I had been watching practice and I actually had a
Speaker 3: couple of our scouts. One of them had been I
Speaker 3: think just recently in Alabama, and they're like, TOATOA is
Speaker 3: already running the defense and they knew they knew I
Speaker 3: knew who that was. And I was like, really already,
Speaker 3: it was like he's been there four days, agoes, No,
Speaker 3: he's running the defense already, and that came to fruition
Speaker 3: because what did we ask him to do against the
Speaker 3: Dolphins run the defense?
Speaker 2: He didn't run a defense, and he did. He did
Speaker 2: a great job.
Speaker 3: And then I pointed out in there there was a
Speaker 3: play against Cincinnati, kind of point out as intelligence where
Speaker 3: they're playing against Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl and he
Speaker 3: sees a play, he sees something, he knows something that's
Speaker 3: coming in so he signals Christian Harris. He gives Christian
Speaker 3: a signal to let him know what's coming, and the
Speaker 3: play just develops exactly the way you could.
Speaker 2: You could tell he knew what was coming. He's kind
Speaker 2: of pointing in that direction.
Speaker 3: Kind of getting Christian's attention, and they ended up making
Speaker 3: a stop out of it. And I was like, this,
Speaker 3: this dude's on a different, you know, mentality. I think
Speaker 3: if he has a little better year in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: two in college, I think we don't have a chance
Speaker 3: to get him at a fifth round at all. But
Speaker 3: I've been a big fan of Henry for a long time,
Speaker 3: so it's like going back and looking at at these
Speaker 3: The other one that I had in here I think
Speaker 3: that all at number ninety two, ninety two Dylan Horton
Speaker 3: defensive end TCU. Before the twenty twenty two season even started,
Speaker 3: I had Dylan Horton there, and Dylan Horton ended up
Speaker 3: taking him.
Speaker 2: And the Texans ended up taking him.
Speaker 3: The other one that I had in my others receiving
Speaker 3: votes was a diminutive wide receiver from the University Houston,
Speaker 3: Tank Dell. Tank Dell in my last two cents is
Speaker 3: he's just tiny, and some teams won't like tiny. That's
Speaker 3: the only thing that holds me back from putting Tank
Speaker 3: in my Harris one hundred dot dot dot right now,
Speaker 3: right now, I got I got a pretty good but
Speaker 3: that this pops up every time. And so going back
Speaker 3: to the Will Anderson thing, I see Will's scouting report
Speaker 3: in front of me, and I'm like, that's a guy.
Speaker 3: And there were people that were dogging in for this
Speaker 3: or that. People didn't think that he did have that twitch.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: I thought he had that, But I also thought that
Speaker 3: Will was going to be that guy that worked at
Speaker 3: it and worked at it and worked at it, and
Speaker 3: he has and at the time he was two hundred
Speaker 3: and forty one pounds now you see him now, I
Speaker 3: think he's probably two fifty ish and so that ten
Speaker 3: pounds has made a lot of difference. I think he
Speaker 3: was heavier last year, but I think he's everything. And
Speaker 3: that's the thing. We knew he's now from the locker room.
Speaker 3: We knew he'd been productive in college. We'ren't exactly sure
Speaker 3: because Alabama used him in a lot of different ways,
Speaker 3: like how exactly he's an NFL team going.
Speaker 2: To use him, But that guy is. That guy has
Speaker 2: come to.
Speaker 3: Play every single time and been that guy. And I
Speaker 3: just I love the fact that two of the three
Speaker 3: guys I have in this Harris one hundred from beginning
Speaker 3: that spring have turned out to be the rock star
Speaker 3: leaders on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2: For this team. It's just incredible.
Speaker 1: Think about absolutely top three and that became the top
Speaker 1: three in the draft, and we all know how history
Speaker 1: played out so far for the Houston Texans through two
Speaker 1: seasons of the Demico CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud era. Okay, Draft coming up Thursday.
Speaker 1: I don't need to remind you of this, but Johnny,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Jonathan Alexander of this in a few minutes.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you right now, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be at the draft party on Thursday night, and the
Speaker 1: Texans picked twenty fifth, what are the chances here of
Speaker 1: Nick Casserio trading down ruining the draft party. I joke
Speaker 1: about that because part of me wants to see it
Speaker 1: almost I just want to see people's reaction, Like, do
Speaker 1: they know that this is probably the best thing for
Speaker 1: the football team? If Nick's doing it, you know he's
Speaker 1: got a pretty good track record.
Speaker 2: I would think that you should buy in.
Speaker 1: But I get it people are gonna be all beveraged
Speaker 1: up by pick number twenty five and wanted to see
Speaker 1: a selection. Why did it share somebody on you? At
Speaker 1: that point, you could pick almost anybody. They're gonna cheer it,
Speaker 1: especially if it's a big name like Hecker or a
Speaker 1: Mecha Abuca or something like that. But if Nick trades down,
Speaker 1: I want to see this reaction, and I want to
Speaker 1: see obviously.
Speaker 2: What the hall is and we all will.
Speaker 1: But what do you think the chances are of something
Speaker 1: like that happening on Thursday?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a decent chance. Decent chance. I
Speaker 2: think there's a decent chance.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I would put trade up, trade down,
Speaker 3: stick and pick. I don't know that they're really I
Speaker 3: think everybody would say, oh the chalk is you stay
Speaker 3: at pick number twenty five, and just because maybe you
Speaker 3: don't have to rely on another you know, you have
Speaker 3: to rely on another partner to be a trade up
Speaker 3: or a trade down scenario. But there are teams above
Speaker 3: the Texans that Nick's dealt with and dealt with successfully.
Speaker 3: There are teams below them he's dealt with and dealt
Speaker 3: with successfully. So I think there's probably I feel like
Speaker 3: like there's a fifty percent chance I take it back,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a sixty percent chance stick and pick,
Speaker 3: and twenty percent either way oo okay of a trade.
Speaker 2: So I just it's gonna get interesting to me.
Speaker 3: I think it's more what I'm thinking, what I think
Speaker 3: is happening right now now is teams are calling saying, look,
Speaker 3: let's get the parameters of a deal, because look, ten
Speaker 3: minutes in a lot of time, let's get the parameters
Speaker 3: of a deal, and if our guy is there, we'll
Speaker 3: do it. Then we'll trigger this and then you guys
Speaker 3: call and let us know. They may know who your
Speaker 3: guy is, they may not, right, but you get the
Speaker 3: parameters of a deal. So maybe they're sitting there with
Speaker 3: a couple teams saying, hey, we got this deal ready
Speaker 3: to go. We got into holest That was what happened.
Speaker 3: That was how Rick Smith got the deal done for
Speaker 3: number twelve overall in twenty seventeen. It's pretty much how
Speaker 3: they got the deal done, how Nick got the deal
Speaker 3: done with Manteasa Fort and the Cardinals. A lot of
Speaker 3: that was agreed to ahead of time and then they
Speaker 3: just hammered out the fine tune details at that point.
Speaker 3: And really it was kind of the Cardinals holding out
Speaker 3: because they wanted to get a little bit more.
Speaker 2: So they want to drum up a little.
Speaker 3: Bit more, kind of see if they get anybody involved,
Speaker 3: and when they really couldn't, I was like, okay, let's
Speaker 3: let's make that deal. So I think the trade up
Speaker 3: I think they're both equal possibilities. I don't think trade
Speaker 3: down absolutely means they're trading out, because I think the
Speaker 3: Chiefs could go up and want to get alignment.
Speaker 2: They might are in particular a tackle.
Speaker 3: They might want to go up and get a tackle
Speaker 3: the Texans don't really want to get. Maybe the Texans
Speaker 3: want to tear your offensive line. So maybe the Chiefs
Speaker 3: are a team that moves up. Maybe the Eagles want
Speaker 3: to move up. Shoot, how he's made deals in the past.
Speaker 3: Then you move down to number thirty two, and now
Speaker 3: you got the last pick of the round, and away
Speaker 3: you go. So I don't think it's absolutely trade down
Speaker 3: meets trade out. But even if they trade out, I
Speaker 3: think Nick will get pretty good return in the past,
Speaker 3: because you know he's gonna be on the phone going, look, Mark,
Speaker 3: John and Andre are at the draft party, and I
Speaker 3: can't disappoint them.
Speaker 2: So you got to give me something on.
Speaker 3: A really good trade down deal, and he'll get extra
Speaker 3: land yap for that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, because what did we say last week? Friday
Speaker 1: night is the night. That's the night. And if I'm
Speaker 1: a GM Johnny, look, I want a great player in
Speaker 1: the first round. Well what if I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a real great player right there, exactly specially at twenty five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you drop down, you get more picks in the
Speaker 1: second and third round. Look at it like this, The
Speaker 1: more picks I have in the top one hundred, the happier.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I got exactly one hundred players here.
Speaker 1: I got three teams of players basically, and I get
Speaker 1: to pick these guys and not awesome.
Speaker 3: And there's not much difference between twenty five and thirty
Speaker 3: five other than the fact that one the cutoff between
Speaker 3: thirty two and thirty three sins everybody overnight back home
Speaker 3: to sleep and come back on Friday.
Speaker 1: He's saying pick number forty is almost as good as
Speaker 1: a first rounder.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 3: It could have been. It could have been if you
Speaker 3: drafted the guy that went in forty.
Speaker 1: One, Jonathan Taylor, it could have been. Oh man, all
Speaker 1: the gift that keeps on giving. Oh god, I mean seriously, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's there.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you and Drew did this on
Speaker 1: in the lab, but man, there are a lot every
Speaker 1: team can do this. So this is not a textile
Speaker 1: exclusive swings and misses. Not just swings and misses, but
Speaker 1: you know, waiting for the next pitch or two where
Speaker 1: it could have really been a hit out of the park,
Speaker 1: you know, like Benny joppru ahead of Jason Witten. Witten
Speaker 1: one of the greatest receivers. I know he's a tight end,
Speaker 1: but he's one of the greatest receivers. The numerically in
Speaker 1: the history of this league. You know, he's incredible.
Speaker 3: I think the thing about those mark there are some
Speaker 3: that you see in real time and you go, oh god.
Speaker 3: There are some that take a little while for it
Speaker 3: to develop. Yeah, that one with Taylor going to forty one.
Speaker 3: Immediately we were in trouble. You you were not. We
Speaker 3: were immediately in trup.
Speaker 1: Thinking, Man, Ross Blacklock, they better be right on this one.
Speaker 1: They better have hit the nail on the head with Ross.
Speaker 3: Not only not only do we not get Taylor, we
Speaker 3: not to face him twice a year.
Speaker 2: That really sucks. That's really the worst part of all this.
Speaker 2: Whoever ended up with him happened to wear a horseshoe
Speaker 2: on that rot.
Speaker 1: I think this. There is no way I'm going to
Speaker 1: predict this right now. There's no way Nick is going
Speaker 1: seven seven picks without a selection, which is currently the
Speaker 1: situation right between the eighty ninth pick and the third
Speaker 1: round and one sixty six.
Speaker 2: In the fifth round. There's no chance that that happens.
Speaker 1: Nick is not gonna let two and a half round
Speaker 1: roll off the board, sits there and does nothing.
Speaker 2: We don't need any of these guys. We're fine. It's
Speaker 2: not no way.
Speaker 1: I just can't believe that would be his internal belief.
Speaker 1: And Cal's gonna be sitting there in the draft room like, well, Nick,
Speaker 1: how's the h how are these seventy seven picks going?
Speaker 2: You know exactly?
Speaker 1: No, no pro bowlers in here and any of these
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go out for lunch on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Like that's you know, that's not gonna have it stands now.
Speaker 2: I mean Cal doesn't have to.
Speaker 1: I mean like he wants to be in and witness everything,
Speaker 1: So DOA's Hannah. I'm sure they want to witness all
Speaker 1: their conversations. And look, I would just want to hear
Speaker 1: what Nick is talking about with everybody else and with
Speaker 1: Lip and Demico and you know what's on his mind
Speaker 1: as these picks are going. Yeah, you want to talk
Speaker 1: reality show? I mean, how much would you.
Speaker 2: Pay for that? Oh, there's there's an immeasurable amount. You know.
Speaker 1: I would absolutely just record it all and then decide, okay,
Speaker 1: we can release of all the hours of the draft
Speaker 1: of the sixteen hours. Let's say we can release thirteen
Speaker 1: hours of it? Oh charge your fans? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: I know you you'd be watching an hour a night.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Mene watch that whole thing stay up
Speaker 2: all night?
Speaker 3: Oh I would, I would you guys, Hey, is John
Speaker 3: coming in today for work?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 3: What's he doing? Oh he's watching He's watching the draft room. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: I mean I've I've always I've always wanted to be
Speaker 3: in a draft room just to kind of listen what's happening.
Speaker 1: When you love that movie Draft Just listen. You love
Speaker 1: that movie Draft Day. That's so realistic. It's so very realistic.
Speaker 1: That's why I'd like you leaving the room all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm leaving the room again.
Speaker 3: I'd like to see it in reality. I'd like to
Speaker 3: see what it looks like.
Speaker 1: So, hey, I would hang out in that draft room
Speaker 1: just to hear what Dennis Leary has to say, because
Speaker 1: he's so entertaining.
Speaker 2: You know, I love Dennis Lear would rather listening to
Speaker 2: Miko Ryans or Dennis Leary's character.
Speaker 1: You know, I used to go to a comedy club
Speaker 1: in Boston before Dennis Leary was famous, and he used
Speaker 1: to do a show.
Speaker 2: It was a basement.
Speaker 1: Comedy club called played against Sam's, and he used to
Speaker 1: do open It wasn't open mic night, he just hosted
Speaker 1: Thursday nights and he was just blissed, I mean, bloodshot eyes,
Speaker 1: just had he hit it big at that point, No,
Speaker 1: we knew he was. We thought it was you know,
Speaker 1: we had pictures of Beard. It was cheap and he
Speaker 1: brought Stephen right up once to try the material.
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Dennis Lear is the best one, and he played
Speaker 1: the head coach and draft day. But in order for
Speaker 1: Nick to make this happen to have a pick or
Speaker 1: two among the seventy seven that are going to go
Speaker 1: by between rounds three and five when the Texans pick,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to, you know, part with some of
Speaker 1: that you know, loose change, like you say in the
Speaker 1: seventh round, he's got two picks there. That fifth, I
Speaker 1: don't know how he's gonna do it. Where he's gonna
Speaker 1: slide one of those thirds back. I mean, he's you
Speaker 1: get to pick up some more cakes one of those thirds.
Speaker 1: Those one of those thirds gonna have pretty good value.
Speaker 3: I think seventy nine could be the one, and you'll
Speaker 3: have room between fifty eight and eighty nine. But you
Speaker 3: take seventy nine and you move that down to get
Speaker 3: into the top part of the fourth round and you
Speaker 3: pick up some land yapp and maybe you pick up
Speaker 3: another fifth rounder, so you get a fourth and a
Speaker 3: fifth in there because you got cooking now you've got
Speaker 3: kind of the distance between. But again, it all as
Speaker 3: Nick said, it comes down to you know, those trades
Speaker 3: are player driven. You know, somebody's got to be interested
Speaker 3: in what's sitting there at seventy nine, and they've got
Speaker 3: to have the additional draft capital to be able to
Speaker 3: go up and get it. So I would mind sticking
Speaker 3: and staying at seventy nine and eighty nine. But if
Speaker 3: seventy nine could turn into one twelve and one forty five, yeah,
Speaker 3: I take that before you got to go to one
Speaker 3: sixty six.
Speaker 2: But it's it's a great point because it's a trade off.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have two third rounders right there, right,
Speaker 1: but you have two second rounders next year.
Speaker 2: Correct, two second rounders next year.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: So because you have Washington's and you have hours, it'll
Speaker 2: be interesting.
Speaker 1: And one of the things those we're gonna burn a
Speaker 1: hole in his pocket and exactly exactly, I got twenty dollars,
Speaker 1: I gotta spend it.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's just a matter of do you want to
Speaker 3: be twenty dollars this year? Do you want to be
Speaker 3: twenty five dollars next year? So either way, but that
Speaker 3: that to me is how you use next year's picks.
Speaker 3: And Nick's always got a pretty good handle on how
Speaker 3: you how you do that. Now he had a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff to work with after the Watson trade. Now
Speaker 3: that's that's gone. So now you're just dealing with your picks.
Speaker 3: But you got somewhat that Laramie trade, et cetera. So
Speaker 3: how do you use all that? What do you turn
Speaker 3: that into? So I think it's gonna be interesting to
Speaker 3: from from my perspective, like what they do. I don't
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna be upset either way, because I'm only
Speaker 3: upset if I'll be upset with one pick. If one
Speaker 3: thing were to happen, and that be that they don't
Speaker 3: trade up, they sit at twenty five and the Vikings
Speaker 3: draft Tyler Booker, that'll be upsetting. That will I will
Speaker 3: cry and you will miss me for the Texans pick.
Speaker 1: And having said that, it's the old you gotta let
Speaker 1: it play out because you'd never know that Titus Howard,
Speaker 1: not that you felt that way, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people felt that way.
Speaker 2: That I missed the boat on Andre Dillard. I've read
Speaker 2: I think it was Albert I can't remember.
Speaker 3: I read this somewhere where somebody somebody decided not to
Speaker 3: play in the bowl game for Alabama and they had
Speaker 3: to go explain it to Tyler Booker before they could
Speaker 3: do it. I'm like, oh my god, I want this
Speaker 3: guy so badly. Oh my god, come on, please let
Speaker 3: him beat at twenty five.
Speaker 1: He could have all the X factor of leadership stuff.
Speaker 1: He's got to be able to play. He's got a
Speaker 1: fly level.
Speaker 3: All that falls on deaf years if you can't play,
Speaker 3: and you definitely could do it in college, and so
Speaker 3: he's got to prove it. He's got to prove it.
Speaker 3: But I think you would have every opportunity to do
Speaker 3: it here for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, coming up, we're gonna check it with Jonathan Alexander
Speaker 1: of the Houston Chronicle, his thoughts on everything he's been
Speaker 1: seeing this week around the building with the Houston Texans
Speaker 1: reporting for off season conditioning voluntary off season condition and
Speaker 1: we'll get to some other stuff at the podium here
Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. As promised here on Texans Radio, Mark
Speaker 1: Vandermin and John Harris with you. We catch up every
Speaker 1: week with Jonathan Alexander, your Texans beat writer from the
Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle.
Speaker 2: One day, will he have the status of John McLean.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: He's got a long way to go as far as
Speaker 1: years are concerned. Let's get to our weekly visit with Jonathan. Okay, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: before we go anywhere else. Your review of CJ. Gardner
Speaker 1: Johnson at the podium today. That was a pretty entertaining
Speaker 1: debut for him as a Texan.
Speaker 6: Definitely entertaining. I mean, you know, he was wearing the Fedora,
Speaker 6: the Cam Newton staff for Dora. You can tell he's
Speaker 6: a character. You know, he mentioned about finally being the
Speaker 6: elder statesman having to grow up. But I can tell
Speaker 6: I'm going to enjoy press conferences with him and talking
Speaker 6: to him in the locker room.
Speaker 1: Well, the question is do they bring him to the
Speaker 1: podium every week or is it going to be locker
Speaker 1: room only? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's exactly?
Speaker 3: Because I got a feeling that CJ speaks his or
Speaker 3: is he like to say C or eight, which right
Speaker 3: now John Metchi has eight.
Speaker 2: So we'll see that goes.
Speaker 3: But I did see a tweet from CJ that he
Speaker 3: was going to bring back his college number, which is
Speaker 3: twenty three, a through versy of Florida.
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be kind of interest. Is that available?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 2: Eric Murray had.
Speaker 3: Murray had it? Yeah, So I don't know if anybody
Speaker 3: lay claimed to it before that. But he said, you
Speaker 3: call him c or eight and he looked around. He's like, well,
Speaker 3: I don't have a match. He's got it. So yeah,
Speaker 3: he is definitely gonna be a character, no doubt. Okay, Jonathan,
Speaker 3: I purposely, knowing that we were gonna talk to you today,
Speaker 3: I purposely did not look at your final mock draft
Speaker 3: because I want to be uh not surprised.
Speaker 2: I want to see what you have to say.
Speaker 3: I want to get an organic reaction to it. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you want to give it, maybe give
Speaker 3: a hint to it. Your final mock draft. What did
Speaker 3: you do for the Texans?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's going to be interesting to see
Speaker 6: what happens, particularly with these first two pigs. I do
Speaker 6: believe that Nick Caserio will be aggressive, and in my
Speaker 6: final mock draft I had the Texans taking Tyler Booker
Speaker 6: with the twenty fifth pick, but with a caveat, I
Speaker 6: believe that top on their draft board is Kelvin Banks Junior,
Speaker 6: and if he were to fall, then they would take him.
Speaker 6: Having said that, I went through a ton of scenarios looked.
Speaker 6: I mocked the first round and I couldnt figure out
Speaker 6: how he got passed.
Speaker 7: Cincinnati at seventeen.
Speaker 6: I think Cincinnati could take him the Seahawks, even the
Speaker 6: Seahawks at eighteen could take him San Francisco at eleven.
Speaker 6: There are a lot of teams that could take offensive tackles,
Speaker 6: and I think he'll be gone by the time the
Speaker 6: Texans pick. But I do know they like him. I've
Speaker 6: talked to a few people about that. I think Tyler
Speaker 6: Booker is another guy. I could also see a scenario
Speaker 6: where Booker and Banks are off the board, and I
Speaker 6: think in that case it depends on who's left. Is
Speaker 6: a Mecca eg Buka on the board. I do know
Speaker 6: they talked to him and he's gotten raver views. Josh
Speaker 6: Connelly is another guy that they like. But I like
Speaker 6: taking a Mecca and then trading up to get Connorley
Speaker 6: with that second round picking. Like I mentioned, and I
Speaker 6: put in my mock draft, I have Booker going and
Speaker 6: I have them moving up to get Connorley. They have
Speaker 6: the extra second round pick that allows them to move up,
Speaker 6: as well as the extra third round pick this year.
Speaker 1: All right, Jonathan Alexander with us from the Houston Chronicle. Jonathan,
Speaker 1: all Right, you said Nick might be aggressive here, but
Speaker 1: it takes two to tango. If he can't make a
Speaker 1: deal and Booker and Banks are off the board, maybe
Speaker 1: even a Buka's off the board at that point, what
Speaker 1: do you handicap it as for lack of a better
Speaker 1: way of putting it. What chance does Nick have to
Speaker 1: ruin the draft party, Jonathan, and trade out of the
Speaker 1: first round. Not that the draft party is the number
Speaker 1: one priority, but it is a factor.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think that you also have to find somebody willing
Speaker 6: to move up and who's desperate to move up. In
Speaker 6: that case, I do think it's a I think they've
Speaker 6: looked at what they could get in a move back
Speaker 6: the move if they were to move back, I think
Speaker 6: Donovan Jackson becomes a target at that point, but I
Speaker 6: think it is more likely that they'll stay put at
Speaker 6: twenty five.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna hate you both.
Speaker 3: With Albert Breer's thoughts which came out, Albert had a
Speaker 3: couple of articles and he said this today. I want
Speaker 3: both your reactions, Jonathan, you go first, speaking of line.
Speaker 3: This is Breer speaking speaking of lineman. We have another
Speaker 3: team that has at least started sniffing around on a
Speaker 3: trade up, and that's the Houston Texans. It's no secret
Speaker 3: that Houston needs offensive line help, and I'd expect to
Speaker 3: target the Texans to target strong character players as they
Speaker 3: continue to remake that room. With the possibility that Will Campbell,
Speaker 3: Armamembu and Kevin Banks Junior are all gone inside the
Speaker 3: top ten, the next group of linemen could get moved
Speaker 3: up the board a bit. And the Texans have two
Speaker 3: teams in front of them. I'm saying at least the
Speaker 3: Green bat Packers and the Minnister of Vikings that could
Speaker 3: take an offensive lineman. Your thoughts, Jonathan, I mocked, You've
Speaker 3: done this. You did this with Tampa Bay. You got
Speaker 3: Kevin Banks Junior.
Speaker 6: I mocked a trade up. I believe that the tech
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised. Like I said, I think Nicko
Speaker 6: Saire's gonna be aggressive. I just don't think that they
Speaker 6: would move past a certain point because that would require
Speaker 6: significant draft conversation. You know, I think moving up six
Speaker 6: spots sixty seven max is probably where they'd go. But
Speaker 6: I also think that they think that they can possibly
Speaker 6: get a good player at twenty five. So it really
Speaker 6: is going to depend on how the draft board shakes out.
Speaker 6: What many of these teams who are who are kind
Speaker 6: of unknowns will do. What are the Carnos going to do?
Speaker 6: Are they going to take a tackle? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: I think it's possible.
Speaker 7: Yeah, or guard?
Speaker 1: You know, well, that's too bad because Nick knows his
Speaker 1: phone number, and that would be a trade candidate. As
Speaker 1: far as the match between those two guys trust each.
Speaker 2: Other, yeah, Yeah, they've don't work together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've done some They've made beautiful music together. As
Speaker 1: far as we see it, would he move up with Atlanta?
Speaker 1: Obviously not the Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Is gonna want to move. Atlanta wants picks. He only
Speaker 2: got five, Okay, so.
Speaker 3: I can see Atlanta moving. He knows many. Awesome for it.
Speaker 3: The Bengals won't move. The Bengals just always sit and pick.
Speaker 3: They stick a pick every year. What do you think
Speaker 3: about that trade up? Do you think Breer's onto something.
Speaker 3: Here's one other thing that he says a little later
Speaker 3: in the article. One player I've heard the Tennis Brier speaking.
Speaker 3: One player I've heard the Texans have done plenty of
Speaker 3: work on is Donovan Jackson Ohio State. Okay, which they
Speaker 3: shouldn't have to do a whole heck of a lot
Speaker 3: of work. He's from Houston and he played with their quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yes, still should know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've heard the same and I'll put that in
Speaker 6: my in my mock draft story that they've actually done
Speaker 6: a lot of research on him recently, like the research
Speaker 6: and the talks with people at Ohio State. I have
Speaker 6: a swears at Ohio State and they've been calling about
Speaker 6: Donovan Alatt Jonathan.
Speaker 2: How many trades in the first round. Just give me
Speaker 2: a number, come out, it's time to predict. Wait, set
Speaker 2: a number and then go over under. Okay, let's go,
Speaker 2: oh five, I.
Speaker 7: Think it'll be less than five.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's all that's got crazy with that number. They
Speaker 1: would jump all over that number. They would Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: take they take take the other at four, put it
Speaker 1: at four. I'll put it at four. But listen, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know how this goes. I know, I know we
Speaker 1: haven't had the pre draft trades, but you know, once
Speaker 1: we get to that night, it's gonna be ping Pongah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a pinball machine. Hensley is gonna be
Speaker 1: getting a lot of airtime on Thursday Night. I predict this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over five, over five, I'm going six.
Speaker 2: Wow, six, you're going I think it's gonna be three.
Speaker 1: Okay, once we get one, that's gonna get that that's
Speaker 1: gonna break the seal. It's kind of like that first
Speaker 1: trip to the restroom when you're at the bar and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you gotta go every half hour.
Speaker 2: This is from my memories.
Speaker 3: We always have that when it's a draft like this, Oh,
Speaker 3: they're gonna be a bunch of trades because everybody's boards
Speaker 3: are gonna look differently, and oh there's a run on this.
Speaker 2: As a run on that.
Speaker 3: Really, to be honest, there maybe two players that you
Speaker 3: can legitimately go, Okay, I'm moving up for that guy.
Speaker 3: I'm going up for genty, I'm going up potentially for
Speaker 3: one of the linemen.
Speaker 2: But you're forgetting one important thing. I'm going Jonathan, I'm
Speaker 2: going I'm going three or.
Speaker 1: Four quarterbacks become real popular on draft night, and I know,
Speaker 1: but this is not the Kenny Pickett Draft.
Speaker 2: There's some guys here who are attractive.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, it's just Sudor Sanders right now, which one, Hey,
Speaker 1: I saw Willis.
Speaker 2: Win a big game.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, he just took him a little
Speaker 3: while to develop. Nobody's really good. I mean Matt Carrall
Speaker 3: and Elie Willis in that particular draft. Yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 3: I'm with Jonathan though, I think three or four trades
Speaker 3: probably probably it. And but and I the more I
Speaker 3: but the more I mean, I go back and forth
Speaker 3: on this every day. I mean, I do think that
Speaker 3: there will be a player that ends up at twenty
Speaker 3: five of all these guys that we talked about that
Speaker 3: we go, oh, there's Zabel, or there's Connorly, or there's Banks.
Speaker 2: Somehow at twenty He's not kidding twenty five.
Speaker 3: The more I've thought about this, bookers, there are twenty
Speaker 3: to me, and then I go back to this booker
Speaker 3: twenty five. So that's who you shuttled on, Jonathan, was
Speaker 3: your your your final pick? I just feel like, and
Speaker 3: we've talked about it the last couple of days. When
Speaker 3: CJ's gone up there, both CJ's are gone up there
Speaker 3: to speak, when Will's spoken, when Petriot has talked, when
Speaker 3: Demiko has talked, it's very clear there's a right kind
Speaker 3: of guy for Houston, and Booker feels so much like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I mean everything you hear about him, you know,
Speaker 6: just a leader. He I remember seeing Demko talk about
Speaker 6: the kind of offensive lineman he wants, wanting somebody gritty
Speaker 6: like Tyler. Booker exemplifies that, and he happens to feel
Speaker 6: the position to need yes, considered the best guard in
Speaker 6: his draft class.
Speaker 7: So if he's there, and Booker, I.
Speaker 6: Mean, and Banks is not on the board, I fully
Speaker 6: expect them to take that chance on him unless unless
Speaker 6: they unless they think that they could get him a
Speaker 6: little bit further in the draft, and they don't think
Speaker 6: the guys behind him will take him. But I think
Speaker 6: there are a few teams in this draft looking for
Speaker 6: a guard.
Speaker 2: Jonathan.
Speaker 1: We'll be asking you to this question a lot throughout
Speaker 1: the next several months, all the way until the end
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 2: What do you think so far?
Speaker 1: And all we have to go on is press conferences
Speaker 1: Nick Kelly and CJ. Stroud the relationship based on what
Speaker 1: they've said, what do you think so far of what
Speaker 1: you're feeling about the projection of this offense's performance with
Speaker 1: those two.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think this seems to be the correct match.
Speaker 6: You know, Nick Keyley is giving CJ Stroud the rains
Speaker 6: to take control of the offense. I think one of
Speaker 6: the things that CJ was a little bit frustrated about
Speaker 6: was the fact that he couldn't make checks at the
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage. You know, they left that up to
Speaker 6: the center, and now Kaylee has given him that rain.
Speaker 6: And you know, during the interview process, everything I heard
Speaker 6: was that the Texans were looking Demiko was looking for
Speaker 6: an offensive coordinator that would build his offense around CJ.
Speaker 6: Stroud and his strengths, and so far that seems like
Speaker 6: Nick Kylee has been doing that. And everything I heard
Speaker 6: about Nick Keayley was that he was a down to
Speaker 6: earth guy like you, was a guy that you have
Speaker 6: a beer a beer with or he throw a party
Speaker 6: for his kids and he have a big beer keg
Speaker 6: for the adults and a karaoke for the kids. So
Speaker 6: it just seems like a perfect fit. He's seems like
Speaker 6: a people's person and obviously he's very smart and has
Speaker 6: a lot of ton of experience.
Speaker 2: Jonathan how far As you go with your mock draft.
Speaker 7: I did seven rounds for the Texans.
Speaker 8: Specifically, Okay, I know you don't want to give up anything,
Speaker 8: but rounds two through seven, was there a pick that
Speaker 8: either you were really conflicted on you weren't sure about
Speaker 8: When you look back, you're like, man, I don't know,
Speaker 8: or you look back and you go, yeah, this is
Speaker 8: a slam dunk right here.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: When I got to the fourth round, I hadn't had
Speaker 6: a receiver yet, so I was trying to choose between
Speaker 6: a receiver that I had never heard of that would
Speaker 6: probably be considered a reach, or take one of the
Speaker 6: best available playmakers who could.
Speaker 7: Also catch divulge. Uh yeah, Arizona states Cameron.
Speaker 6: How do he pronounce his last name? I don't want
Speaker 6: to mispronounce his last name. The running Backcataboo Skataboo. Yeahah.
Speaker 6: I picked him as he was on the board. He
Speaker 6: was best available, and to me, they've looked at running
Speaker 6: backs in this draft and he fits as a different
Speaker 6: type of player than Joeffer. And then you got Damian
Speaker 6: Pierce on it on the end of his rookie deal,
Speaker 6: So you know, I think that's an extra playmaker for
Speaker 6: for for CD stride. If he's there, that could possibly
Speaker 6: be a guy cam scataboo in Houston. The fans would
Speaker 6: go nuts for that. Oh that would be that draft
Speaker 6: weekend that were very bad. That would be the one
Speaker 6: everybody was talking about.
Speaker 2: Very popular, absolutely, Jonathan.
Speaker 1: So with you have your final mock draft out there
Speaker 1: in the Houston Chronicle, what about the coverage this week
Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll be me and my coworker Sam Mormon will
Speaker 6: be covering it from every angle. I'll have a profile
Speaker 6: on Nick hopefully coming out tomorrow. Oh so that should
Speaker 6: be interesting. Still finishing doing the finishing touches on that,
Speaker 6: but yeah, that should be coming out. So please look
Speaker 6: on Houston Chronicle dot com for more of it.
Speaker 2: Sounds great, Jonathan, Thanks a lot, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: All Right, there's our weekly visit with Jonathan Alexander of
Speaker 1: the Houston Chroniclecrime dot Com. All right, coming up, some
Speaker 1: closing thoughts from the podium from head coach Tamiko Ryans,
Speaker 1: among other things before we send it away.
Speaker 2: And tomorrow is Draft Eve. I think that should be
Speaker 2: an official holiday. We'll see if it catches on.
Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio final segment on the show tonight and
Speaker 1: as we discuss some podium highlights. Jamik o'rians this week
Speaker 1: with his team getting back to work in the offseason
Speaker 1: conditioning program voluntary, Damiko Ryans talked about what's most important
Speaker 1: for the players during this time of year.
Speaker 9: The most important thing for me, what I asked our
Speaker 9: guys today and our meeting is just be where your
Speaker 9: feet are, right. We have a limited amount of time
Speaker 9: to be here. Like, Let's be where our feed are.
Speaker 9: Let's be connected, like, let's talk to our teammates. Let's
Speaker 9: not walk around with our heads down on our cell
Speaker 9: phone all the time, eyes up, eating lunch with each other,
Speaker 9: truly connecting with one another, and we'll improve upon the football. Right,
Speaker 9: It's about you put the right work in. You'll get
Speaker 9: better at your craft, but let's get better at connecting.
Speaker 9: Let's get better at the football. Coming in with the
Speaker 9: right attitude and attitude to learn, attitude to grow. If
Speaker 9: you come in with that mindset, guys will really maximize
Speaker 9: you know, these nine weeks we have here in the offseason.
Speaker 1: See, this is what I love about him. One of
Speaker 1: the things he makes me want to be better. I mean,
Speaker 1: people listen to him. You can always glean something for
Speaker 1: your life out of what Tamiko Ryans has to say,
Speaker 1: What CJ. Stroud has to say about this offseason, how
Speaker 1: it's different from his first off season which was the
Speaker 1: draft stuff, the pre draft stuff and ramping up as
Speaker 1: a rookie, and last year's first full off season as
Speaker 1: a pro.
Speaker 2: How's this year different?
Speaker 5: This is experience, you know, just more like more games
Speaker 5: on my belt, not only games, but just like an
Speaker 5: off season, a free time, OTAs drafting, like draft schedule,
Speaker 5: things like that. Just just comfortability with those type of things.
Speaker 5: So that's been the most Probably the best thing is
Speaker 5: just being used to like how things go, trades and
Speaker 5: all types of stuff. So it's nothing you get comfortable
Speaker 5: with completely, but you find comfort in it more as
Speaker 5: you get more experience.
Speaker 1: I feel the topic of leadership came up. Where is CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud on that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know, for me, I always believe in just serving leadership,
Speaker 5: serving in any way I can.
Speaker 2: And like I told you.
Speaker 5: Before, my coach and college coach Fitch, taught me the
Speaker 5: most important job, the only job really quarterback has is
Speaker 5: to make everybody around them better and whatever that looks like,
Speaker 5: that's what I want to do. And you know, it's
Speaker 5: been nice. You know, now I feel like I got
Speaker 5: another year under my belt, more experience, you know, more
Speaker 5: comfortability with just how the NFL works, how the league works,
Speaker 5: how the city works, how everything. You know, just being
Speaker 5: a quote unquote quarterback NFL is. You know, it's something
Speaker 5: that no one can can teach you about. You got
Speaker 5: to experience it, got to make mistakes, you gotta fail,
Speaker 5: you gotta do good, you gotta do bad. And so
Speaker 5: that's that's what I plan to do, is just use
Speaker 5: those experiences to help others and you know, be a
Speaker 5: servants to one another, to you know, to help. You know,
Speaker 5: it says in a word that iron sharpens iron, so
Speaker 5: another man sharp is another. So that's what I plan
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 2: CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud, entering year three, sounds like a twenty eight year
Speaker 1: old veteran and he's a third year guy, so he's
Speaker 1: been in the league for a while, but he sounds
Speaker 1: even more mature than that. Will Anderson Junior also heard
Speaker 1: from at the podium this week, and he was asked
Speaker 1: about the defense of course, and we talked about CJ.
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson and the impression he made on us earlier today.
Speaker 1: He's made an impression on his teammates well, he and
Speaker 1: other additions to the defense and just the defense being back.
Speaker 1: They were bawling late last year and they're ready to
Speaker 1: hit the ground full throttle this year.
Speaker 4: Man, And my emotion has been everywhere for me those
Speaker 4: last one play off games, Like for me, I'm like,
Speaker 4: you gotta do that every game. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like that's just been my emotions and I'm like, bro
Speaker 4: like going into this division I see for our team,
Speaker 4: division I see for the defense is like the sky's
Speaker 4: the limit, Like if we come out batting like that,
Speaker 4: nobody can touch us. And it starts now. And it's
Speaker 4: been nice to see everybody in the locker room, everybody
Speaker 4: being here, even the vest, and that just shows how
Speaker 4: much they care about the program and where they want
Speaker 4: to see the program go.
Speaker 7: And like one guy, I.
Speaker 4: Gotta highlight like I have my highlight with A Z's
Speaker 4: last year, CJ. Gardner Man, Like today was my first
Speaker 4: day meeting him, and he is everything I knew he
Speaker 4: would be, like competitive talk smack and I love it
Speaker 4: and we got we need those type of guys in
Speaker 4: the locker room that lightning you know to lighten everybody's
Speaker 4: mood a little bit, and so like it's fun. Man,
Speaker 4: football is fun, and he brings that energy.
Speaker 1: Boy does he an energy infusion. Not that they needed extra,
Speaker 1: but I guess you can never have enough. They're always
Speaker 1: looking for guys like that, and they'll be looking for
Speaker 1: more of them in the upcoming NFL Draft starting in
Speaker 1: forty eight hours on Thursday night, I'll be there with
Speaker 1: John Harris and Andre where at the draft party George R.
Speaker 1: Brown Convention Center, Avenida to Houston. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: And then Friday night here in studio, Saturday, all day
Speaker 1: in studio, Sean Pendergast helping us out, Robert Hensley. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun to cover the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft and see what picks the Texans end up with.
Speaker 1: And we'll finally have the answers to their questions. What
Speaker 1: will Nick do with Round one? All the other picks,
Speaker 1: how many trades will they make? It'll all unfold in
Speaker 1: real time right here Texans Radio on Sports Radio six'.
Speaker 1: Ten that's gonna do it for the show. Tonight this
Speaker 1: will be up in podcast form soon. Enough area forty
Speaker 1: five coming. Up stay tuned for, that have a great.
Speaker 1: Night Go.
Speaker 2: Texans