1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 3: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with a possible easing of tensions between 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: the US and China. President Trump says a new trade 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: deal with China as possible, weeks after he imposed tariffs 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: on the country's imports. Speaking to reporters on Air Force One, 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: the President praised China's sshijinping. 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 4: It's possible, but well, we did a great trade deal 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 4: with China. 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: We did it. 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 4: Great for the farmers, great for manufacturers. They had it 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 4: by fifty billion dollars worth of our product, and we 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 4: were making them by it. The problem is that Biden 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 4: didn't push them to it. Here to it. 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: President Trump didn't outline the parameters of a potential deal. 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: Any agreement would face significant obstacles. His comments come a 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: day after he hinted at new global tariffs on cars, semiconductor, 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: and pharmaceutical imports. 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: Well, Nathan, President Trump appears to be earning further against 22 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zolensky. First, the President did not invite 23 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: the Ukraine to negotiations with Russia. On ending the war. Now, 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: Trump is calling Zelenski a dictator without elections after the 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: Ukrainian leader accused him of falling for Russian propaganda. The 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: president has heard here on Bloomberg Radio, discussed the war 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: at the Future Investment Initiative summit in Miami. 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: Europe has failed to bring peace, and Zolensky probably wants to. 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 4: Maybe he wants to keep the gravy train going. I 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: don't know what's the problem, but he hasn't been able. 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: He's very upset that he wasn't invited. He could have 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: come if he wanted to, but that he wasn't invited 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 4: to Saudi Arabia. But he's been working for three years, 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 4: has never been even meeting so phone calls to stop 35 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 4: this war. It's a horrible thing. 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: President Trump's turn against Zelensky leaves Ukraine with limited options. 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: He could keep fighting with assistants from Europe, or he 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: could accept whatever deal Trump might make with Russian President 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin. 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,639 Speaker 2: Well Karen. President Trump is also defending his government cost 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: cutting effort at that Miami summit. He says some of 42 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: the doges savings could be passed the taxpayers. 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: There's even under consideration a new concept where we give 44 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: twenty percent of the DOGE savings to American citizens and 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 4: twenty percent goes to paying down debt. Because the numbers 46 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: are incredible. 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: They're a President Trump's DOAGE team has claimed fifty five 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: billion dollars in savings so far, its website only accounts 49 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 2: for about eight point six billion. A twenty percent dividend 50 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: on that total would amount to about eleven dollars per taxpayer. 51 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: Well, Nathan, the DOGE team can now add overhauling government 52 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 3: regulations to its cost cutting drive. President Trump has signed 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: an executive order for all agencies to review their rules 54 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: and make sure the align with the administration's policies and 55 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: the DOGE effort. The President also signed a directive eliminating 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: or minimizing a dozen federal agencies, including advisory Councils on 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: community banks and credit unions, long COVID health equity, and 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: Voluntary Foreign Aid, and he signed an executive action aimed 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: at ensuring taxpayer money does not support undocumented migrants or 60 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: encourage illegal immigration. 61 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: Looking at geopolitics now, Karen, Secretary of State Marco Rubio 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: is skipping the Group of Twenty Foreign Ministers meeting in Johannesburg. 63 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: The move comes after Rubio criticized Hosts South Africa's policies 64 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: as anti American. We get more from Bloomberg's antony squads 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: and in Johannesburg. 66 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 5: I think it's a huge BOQ twenties gathering of the 67 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 5: world's biggest economies, and the US's the biggest economy. So 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 5: it does mean that whatever's achieved, if it's without the 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 5: US will be less meaningful. It puts it afterod of. 70 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: Composition Bloomberg's antony squads, and also reports that Treasury Secretary 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: Scott Bessant is not going to be traveling to the 72 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: Group of twenty Finance ministers meeting in South Africa next week. 73 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: Speaking of the Treasury Secretary, we invite you to join 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: us at seven am Wall Street time when Scott Bessant 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: speaks live with Bloomberg Surveillance. You can catch that conversation 76 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: here on Bloomberg Radio and on the Bloomberg Podcasts YouTube page. 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: Well, Nathan is now headed to the courts. Moments after 78 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: the Trump administration said it plans to block New York 79 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: City's congestion pricing program, the MTA filed a lawsuit in 80 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: federal court. Here's New York Governor Kathy Hogel and remarks 81 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: carried live here on Bloomberg word fight mode. 82 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: Within seconds of us getting this notification, our MTA was prepared. 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: We knew this could come foul. 84 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 6: The lawsuit within minutes. 85 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm very confident will be successful. 86 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 7: And I also want to say. 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 8: The cameras are staying on in. 88 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: Governor Kathy Hogel says the toll program will continue while 89 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: the lawsuit plays out. The congestion pricing plan charges a 90 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: nine dollars toll on most vehicles entering Manhattan neighborhoods south 91 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: of Central Park. 92 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Well congestion tolling's not the only thing remaining uncertain this morning. 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: In New York, Karen So is Mayor Eric adams political future. 94 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: US District Judge Dale Hoe has yet to rule on 95 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: the Justice Department's fight to end Adam's corruption case. The 96 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: judge heard arguments from Adam's lawyer and a DOJ official 97 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: to determine whether to sign off on the dismissal and 98 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 2: met with opposition from Adam's political opponents and other groups. 99 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: Adams was indicted in September on charges of bribery, fraud, 100 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: soliciting illegal foreign campaign contributions. New York Governor Kathy Hochel 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: has stated she's going to see what the judge decides 102 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: before she makes any decisions on removing Adams from office. 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: We turn to the markets now, Nathan and stocks once 104 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: again begin the day in record territory. However, the four 105 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: and a half percent rally in the S and P 106 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: five hundred this year may not last long. That's according 107 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: to strategists at City Group. The firm sees more near 108 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 3: intermediate term downside risk rather than potential for an advance 109 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: from Trump's policy effects. They believe investors are not yet 110 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: pricing in policy disruptions to fundamentals. 111 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: And this morning, Karen, we get earnings from the nation's 112 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: largest retailer and biggest private sector employer. Bloomberg's Tom Busby 113 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: has more. 114 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 7: Walmart expected to report strong sales during the holiday quarter 115 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 7: as consumer spending rows by more than expected in December. 116 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 7: Key for investors, though it's full year projection for sales 117 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 7: and profit in light of President Trump's tariffs and the 118 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 7: threats of even more levies on imports. Also interest rates 119 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 7: that will likely remain around seven percent for some time. 120 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 7: Bloomberg consensus calls for revenue of one hundred and eighty 121 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 7: point twenty one billion dollars earnings per share of sixty 122 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 7: five cents. Tom buzzby Bloomberg Radio. 123 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: All right, Tom, thank you all. Another stockwerre watching this 124 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: morning is Pallenteer. Those sharers, they're down one point four 125 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 3: percent right now. The drought follows a rapport that Defense 126 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: Secretary Pete Hegseth plans to slash military spending. Pallenteer, which 127 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: is seen at stock Sewer by almost fifty percent this year, 128 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: is a major US defense contractor. Time now for a 129 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 3: look at some of the other stories making news in 130 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: New York and around the world. And for that we're 131 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. John, Good morning, and. 132 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 9: Good morning, Karen Hamas handed to the Red Cross the 133 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 9: remains of four Israelis it had taken hostage in October 134 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 9: of twenty twenty three. The remains were of a young mother, 135 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 9: her two small children, ages four and nine nine months, 136 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 9: and a man at his eighties. This return comes as 137 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 9: the shaky Ganza truce stumbles ahead. The bodies are the 138 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 9: first to be delivered through negotiations since the war started. 139 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 9: President Troup maybe edging closer to being able to fire 140 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 9: Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell. Let's get that story this 141 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 9: morning from Bloomberg's Genas Cervetti. 142 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 8: Bloomberg Intelligence says the Federal Reserve Act requires cause for 143 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 8: the President to oust Jerome Powell as a Federal Reserve 144 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 8: Board member, but there's a good chance that the four 145 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 8: cause removal restriction will be held unconstitutional for intruding on 146 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 8: the President's executive authority. The statute says board member shall 147 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 8: serve fourteen year terms unless removed before that four cause 148 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 8: by the US President. The Bloomberg analysis goes on to 149 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 8: say four cause in this context is generally thought to 150 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 8: mean inefficiency, neglect, or malfeasance. The statute, however, articulates no 151 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 8: such restriction for chairs or vice chairs of the Fed Board. 152 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 8: Genas Cervetti Bloomberg Radio. 153 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 9: Delta Airlines is offering thirty thousand dollars passenger board that 154 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 9: regional jet that came to rest upside down after a 155 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 9: crash landing at Toronto Airport earlier this week. A Delta 156 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 9: spokesman says the payments are a good faith gesture that 157 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 9: have no strings attached and does not affect rights. Two 158 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 9: people are dead after two small planes hid in midair 159 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 9: north of Tucson, Arizona, yesterday. Little appears to remain one 160 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 9: of the aircraft expect to accept a burned wreckage on 161 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 9: the desert floor. One of the planes was able to land. 162 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 9: The NTSB and FAA are on their way to the 163 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 9: scene to investigate, and the Vatican says this morning, Pope 164 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 9: Francis is continuing his recovery from pneumonia, eating breakfast in 165 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 9: bed after a sixth night in the hospital. New blood 166 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 9: tests showed a slight improvement in some inflammation for the 167 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 9: eighty eight year old Pontiff Global News twenty four hours 168 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 9: a day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News. 169 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: Now. 170 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 9: I'm John Tucker. This is Bloomberg. 171 00:08:52,800 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: Karen all right, John, thank you time Enberg Sports update 172 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: brought to you by Tri State OUTI. Here's John Stashauer, John, 173 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: good morning. 174 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 10: Good morning, Daron. That went for the red storm of 175 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 10: Saint John's. This one no surprise at DePaul forty one 176 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 10: points at each half and eighty two to fifty eight victory. 177 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 10: Kadari Richmond seventeen points, nine rebounds, five assists. Saint John's 178 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 10: goes to fourteen and two of the Big East Big 179 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 10: Game Sunday with Yukon at the Garden, where tonight it's 180 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 10: the Knicks and the Chicago Bulls were actually two to 181 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 10: zero against the next This season, NBA returned with the 182 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 10: game last night. It was a makeup in LA from 183 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 10: a postponement due to the fires and an upset. Charlotte 184 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 10: beat the Lakers and Lebron James did play despite that 185 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 10: injury and ankle, but Luka Doncic struggled, shot five of eighteen, 186 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 10: one of nine on three pointers, had six turnovers. Hockey 187 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 10: tonight in Boston, US and Canada and the Four Nations 188 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 10: faceoff final. Remember what happened between the two teams just 189 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 10: after the opening faceoff last Saturday in Montreal. Three fights 190 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 10: in the first nine seconds. The Rangers J. T. Miller 191 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 10: was in one of them. 192 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 6: After set the tell them if you let those guys 193 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 6: come out with David flying around to start the game, 194 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 6: I think Kennon flying around like you know, that could 195 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 6: become a contagious and infectious thing in that building. So 196 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 6: I just think that, you know, last game was a 197 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 6: such a unique start because we knew we have to 198 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 6: set the tone in the game and have our presence 199 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 6: in the game. You know it's different this time around, 200 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 6: but in a sense of intensity that won't change. 201 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 10: It sounds late that the Chuck brothers will both play 202 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 10: despite injuries in the US without defense. But Charlie mckiboy 203 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 10: the Long Island Day have hurt his shoulder and then 204 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 10: developed an infection, and his NHL team to Bruins said 205 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 10: to be unhappy with the treatment he got, and Yankee 206 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 10: camps starting Pittrick Clark Schmidt dealing with back pain. They 207 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 10: may need Marcus Strowman after all, at least to start 208 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 10: the season. They played soccer last night in Kansas City 209 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 10: and below zero temperatures into Miami Top Sporting and KC 210 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 10: in a Champions Cup Game one. Neil Lionel Messi scored 211 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 10: the goal. They postponed the game Tuesday through the snow. 212 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 10: A night later, they set a record the coldest ever 213 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 10: in LS game. John Stashenwer Bloomberg Sports Canada, NY. 214 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide, on Serious Exam 215 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 216 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 217 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: Good Morning, I'm Nathan Hager. President Trump's relations with Ukrainian 218 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: President Voladimir Zelensky may have hit a new loan. After 219 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: sidelining Ukraine from talks with Russia to end the war. 220 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: The President is now describing Zelenski this way at a 221 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: Saudi investment conference in Miami. 222 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: A dictator without elections. Zelensky better move fast, or he's 223 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: not going to have a country left. Got to move 224 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: gotta move fast, because that war's going in the wrong direction. 225 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: In the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an end to the 226 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: war with Russia. 227 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: President Trump spoke at the Future Investment Initiative Summit, as 228 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 2: heard here on Bloomberg Radio. From More, we are joined 229 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: by Jennifer Lawless, professor and politics chair at the University 230 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: of Virginia. Jennifer, it's great to have you back with 231 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: us on Bloomberg Daybreak. I wonder what you make of 232 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: this rhetorical shift from the President when it comes to 233 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: Ukraine's leader, what it means for the war in Ukraine. 234 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning. 235 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 11: Well, I think that Donald Trump caught a lot of 236 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 11: people by surprise with those remarks, not only because he's 237 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 11: been negotiating it into the war with Russia and has 238 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 11: not involved Ukraine at all in these negotiations, But also 239 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 11: because of the way he's characterized Zelensky as a dictator 240 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 11: and stated that Ukraine started the war in the first place, 241 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 11: which is obviously not true. It's very difficult for Republicans 242 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 11: to back up this kind of logic. It's one thing 243 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 11: for them to say that they no longer support aid 244 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 11: to Ukraine, it's another to embrace an alternative reality, and 245 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 11: he's putting them in a tricky position. 246 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 2: Aside from the potential reaction from Republican leaders in Washington, 247 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: what's the political impact potentially for the president to take 248 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: this stand when it comes to Ukraine with American voters. 249 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 11: I'd say it's a difficult position with the voters as well, 250 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 11: for a couple of reasons. The first is that anybody 251 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 11: who's been paying attention and remember the initial footage coming 252 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 11: out of Ukraine was incredibly compelling, and it demonstrated Russia 253 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 11: just going in there and uprooting people. They're being asked 254 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 11: to suspend reality. They're also being asked to embrace a 255 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 11: US foreign policy that puts the United States on the 256 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 11: opposite side of its allies, and I think Mike Pence 257 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 11: actually came out yesterday and summed it up quite well 258 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 11: when he said that this just flies in the face 259 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 11: of what the American people know happened and what they 260 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 11: know is the right thing to do. 261 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: Aside from Mike Pence, it seems like Republicans for the 262 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: most part have been rallying behind President Trump in terms 263 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: of domestic politics, support for his cabinet nominees, that sort 264 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: of thing. You mentioned that this could lead to cracks 265 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: for Republicans when it comes to support for Ukraine. But 266 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: where do you see it going in terms of how 267 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: Republicans could continue to react to what they are hearing 268 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: from the president. 269 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 11: There's little to suggest that the Republicans are we to 270 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 11: hold the President's accountable for anything he says. So my 271 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 11: hunch is that several of them will say that they 272 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 11: don't have this shared conception of how the war began, 273 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 11: that they don't necessarily agree that Zelenski is a dictator, 274 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 11: but that none of this matters because at the end 275 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 11: of the day, this war has to end and Donald 276 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 11: Trump is going to help end it. And that's consistent 277 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 11: with the way they've handled a lot of domestic policy arguments. 278 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 11: As well. They don't necessarily think Rfk is the best 279 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 11: person to run HHS. They have concerns about Pete Hegseth's background, 280 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 11: but at the end of the day, they believe in 281 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 11: the overall mission and they supported the president for that reason. 282 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: In the time we have left, Jennifer, I wanted to 283 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: get your take as well on what we're seeing from 284 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: the DOJE effort, the cost cutting in Washington, d c. 285 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: And now this idea that the president's floating of a 286 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: DOGE dividend twenty percent of the savings potentially, he says 287 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: could go to tax payers. Is the President trying to 288 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: make these cuts more politically palatable. 289 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 11: He's literally trying to buy the support of the America 290 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 11: people with Elon Musk, And this wouldn't be the first 291 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 11: time they did this, or they tried to do this 292 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 11: during the campaign. What I will say is that there's 293 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 11: not much evidence that there's been actual savings. So if 294 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 11: these dividend checks are issued, it's unclear where that money 295 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 11: is coming from. It might be coming, for example, from 296 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 11: the Medicaid cuts that the President said he would not support, 297 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 11: that he just supported in the budget. So there's a 298 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 11: fixed amount of money and there's no evidence to suggest 299 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 11: that it's coming from government efficiency cuts, So issuing those 300 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 11: checks are going to be a real cost to the 301 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 11: American people. 302 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: Just thirty seconds left. It's been a difficult process for 303 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: federal workers certainly, But do you see support from the 304 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: American people for this cost cutting effort. 305 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 11: I think they'll support the cost cutting effort until they 306 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 11: realize some of the implications of these other policy cuts 307 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 11: that have happened. So in the abstract, everybody supports cutting 308 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 11: federal workers, everybody supports more government efficiency. 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