1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: So before I get to the Paradise chat, I just 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: want to shout out to our hotel that we're staying 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: at the Portafino Hotel and Marina. At the Portafino Hotel 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: and Marina and Redondo Beach, every moment comes with a 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: view from your elegant guest room. Gaze across the Pacific 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: and watch the boats drift by at Bailien Kitchen, dying 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: steps from the marina, and savor coastal inspired So Cal 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: cuisine for touch of adventure. 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Okay, let's dive 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: back into the Bachelor in Paradise Reunion. 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: Guys, Almost Famous podcast. 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here, Brian and Parisa, 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: thank you so I want to I want to say 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: this first of all, love the new look. 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love where you're going with this a lot 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 4: of shade. I figured I'll just stay in. 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: The embraces, keep the hat, keep the hat, keep the 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: glasses on. So Parisa, you roll into Paradise. First of all, 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: let's point out something here. Parisa is a fellow Detroiter. Yes, 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: represent represent So I'm gonna make sure I take care 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: of you in this interview. Okay, But I do have 27 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: a goal for this interview, and I'm going to state 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 1: it right up front. I really want you guys back together. 29 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure it out. I'm getting to the bottom 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: of this today and I'm creating. I'm renewing a love connection. Okay, 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: because I liked you guys. There's a couple on the show. 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: So when Parisa and Ali Joe roll into the Paradise. 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 3: Island, it is like a James Bond movie. 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: Right, you guys are coming in, And I remember I 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: laughed about this out loud. 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, Brian's head was on a swivel. 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: It was just like a media like honest to god, 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: and it was like what And it was probably saying 39 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: what we were all thinking at home, like who in 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: the hell is this? Where are they coming from what 41 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: is going on, and you guys just sort of took 42 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: the island by storm, scared the hell out of everyone 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: that was already there, right. I think you were one 44 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: of the first like new uh well you were the 45 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: first new women that came out. 46 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: Of the other anywhere. 47 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and so it just sort of like just 48 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: really sent some ripples right through the through the beach 49 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: obviously created a whole storyline for our boy Brian here. 50 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you were just getting shredded. 51 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: But I mean it has to be it has to 52 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: be interesting because part of the beauty of Bachelor in 53 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Paradise is that people go there to make love connections 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: and meet each other and everything, but there are also 55 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: always new people coming, and so it's like, yes, you 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: want to get to know the people that are there, 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: but if someone comes in that is more your speed, 58 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: right You You either have to make it, you have 59 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: to make a choice. Someone's either going to get their 60 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: feelings hurt or you know whatever. And Brian, I mean 61 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: you you kind of really drew a line in the sand. 62 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys notice why I did 63 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 1: their island and you do a line of the sand 64 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: right away you're like, okay, uh hi, Prisa, I'm Brian. 65 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean it was immediate for you, it wasn't it. 66 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 4: It was paradise paradise, And like, I don't understand what 67 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: people don't understand about that, right. It's we're in week 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: two and it's like opportunities are open, and like people 69 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 4: that are getting locked down immediately, like god bless Spencer 70 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: and Jess you know, lockdown immedia and love it first sight. 71 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: But aside from that, like like this isn't like let's 72 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: explore our options here, right, Yeah, So I didn't really 73 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 4: understand you know, the viewers' comments so to speak, right, 74 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: but you know, it's it's our own journey and we 75 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: have to live. 76 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: It, right. Yeah. 77 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 5: I made sure too, Like I knew, you know, stepping 78 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: foot onto that beach that there were probably already relationships established, 79 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 5: and so that was my mindset of you know, like 80 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 5: I'm gonna kind of scope everything out. I don't want 81 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 5: to go after someone who's like really locked in, like Spencer, 82 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 5: like that's no point there. But I I kind of 83 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 5: wanted to allow Brian to handle all of that because 84 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 5: it's like not I know, I'm sorry, Like it's not 85 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 5: my place to like now be the third one in, 86 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 5: you know, their personal conversation of like, okay, so what's up, 87 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 5: Like how's this going? You know, like I wanted him 88 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 5: to take care of all of that that was his 89 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 5: it was your business, yeah, you know, yeah, and then 90 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 5: just see what came next out of it. 91 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: You know, I think that. 92 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's almost the only way you can handle it, right, 93 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Like what are you gonna do? Go walking over to 94 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: Zoe and be like, Hi, I'm here now, Yeah, you're 95 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: gonna do that, I know. 96 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 6: And I was actually like watching everything back. 97 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 5: I remember you when Ellie Joe and I stepped onto 98 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 5: the beach, you know, we're kind of like talking everybody, 99 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 5: and then we get pulled into a conversation with Zoe 100 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 5: and actually, yeah, and you know we're talking, we're asking like, 101 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: what's you know low down here? 102 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 6: Fill us in? 103 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 5: And it was funny because before going into that conversation, 104 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 5: I had spoken Ellie Joe. I'm like, you know, I 105 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 5: have my eye on Brian. I think he's really cute. 106 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 5: I want to get to know him. 107 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 6: What about you, Ellie Joe? And she was like, oh, 108 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 6: you know, I don't know yet. 109 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 5: Maybe Dale, maybe Jonathan and I'm like, okay. So we 110 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 5: go into the com versation and the first thing is 111 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 5: always like yeah, like I'm talking to Brian and Dale 112 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 5: and then I look at Eli Joe and I'm like, oh, wonderful. 113 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: But didn't she take it one step for like, so 114 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: stay away from them, Yeah, don't touch. 115 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 5: And I look and then she goes, who are you 116 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 5: girls looking at? And I look at l Joe mcking nobody. 117 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, don't what. 118 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: Are you going to do? 119 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 7: I'm like, there's just no reaction to her. Was hilarious. 120 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 7: You and Ali Joe both are. 121 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, yeah, it was such good. 122 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: You know. The union that's our franchise is that the 123 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: fact that is like the single greatest editor editors in 124 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: the world and they produce for Romance so well. So 125 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean they always have, you know, and it's like 126 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: one of those things it's like, oh, so stay away 127 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: from my man. 128 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: It's like all of a sudden, it's like. 129 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, you know, yeah, I'm not going to do 130 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: anything here on the beach, right. 131 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 7: Yeah. 132 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: So did you guys feel an instant connection like with 133 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: the two of you just it seemed like you did, 134 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: like you almost kind of like gravitated to right and 135 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: that then you went on that date right where you 136 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: were like like the bar games that was pretty hot. 137 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 7: That was awesome Games, well was it was? 138 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 6: Actually, it was so funny. The car ride to the date. 139 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: I guess we weren't supposed to be left unsupervised. 140 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: And that goal the entire time. 141 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 6: We just talked the whole time. 142 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: I'm not getting to know him, not thinking like, oh, 143 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 5: we should probably save this or on camera during the date. 144 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 6: But I mean we had an hour an. 145 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 5: Hour in the car getting to know each other and 146 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 5: I'm finding out so much like he loves music, I 147 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 5: love to sing, and I'm like, oh my god, wow, 148 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 5: And it was amazing. Then we get to the date 149 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 5: and we're having fun, and then you know, we're set 150 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 5: at a table to talk and I'm like, I already 151 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: know him. 152 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 6: I love this. This is like I don't know what 153 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 6: I like. 154 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 5: I don't know, like I had my mind made up 155 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 5: already at that point, but everybody was off camera. 156 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 7: It was a great car ride. 157 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 4: We went over like so much and it was already 158 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 4: like we were just like connected. 159 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 7: Already on the car ride. 160 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: Well it's not your fault. 161 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: They didn't film it, right, I mean, maybe they just knew, 162 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: like I know, that there's something here, right, and so 163 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: we're going. 164 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: To keep minding this because I think that's good. 165 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: So, you know, I I noticed today just to kind 166 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: of let let the cat out of the bag. Earlier today, 167 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: you guys said that you weren't currently together, and you said, 168 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think Parsa said it very nicely. 169 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: You said, well, life just kind of got in the way, right, 170 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: And I get it. 171 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Brian, you've been pretty candid about the fact 172 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: that you were kind of fully invested in your restaurant 173 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: and getting that off the ground and and everything, and 174 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: that can take a lot of time. 175 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: I mean, the restaurant industry is no easy feet. 176 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 7: It's awful, man. 177 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but you know, it's what you love to do, 178 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: and and you know, so there's gonna be those times. 179 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Since you've been back here, I mean you had to sit, 180 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: like you know, I think the chairs might have been 181 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: a quarter of an inch apart all day, right, you 182 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: guys sat there for several hours. I mean I forced 183 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: you to sit really close on this couch. Is this 184 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: something that makes you, guys kind of feel a little reconnected? 185 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything that you've like you noticed that, 186 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, oh yeah, these are things I really liked 187 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: about him that maybe you know, got a little off kilter, 188 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, after being in feathers and stuff on a 189 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: whole day and a long day for everybody. 190 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: But I mean, it was it ever like that moment 191 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: where you're like, you actually do. 192 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: Have fun with this guy, and and where you're thinking, man, 193 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: you know this is this is a lot of fun. 194 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: I enjoy spending time with her. 195 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: We we went about four weeks without speaking, Yeah, and 196 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: we saw each other last night and the lobby and 197 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: she wouldn't make eye contacts with me. 198 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I was like, let me play it for 199 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 7: a chat. 200 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: It could have been hard because you can't see your 201 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: eyes with those damn shades, do you know? She doesn't. No, 202 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: So so it was like you got so you you 203 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: you kind of you. You just decided to just saddle 204 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: up and be like, hey, can we please talk? 205 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 7: It had to be done. 206 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like once we started talking to each 207 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: other again, it was like like now, like I totally 208 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: realized why I was attracted to this person and why 209 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 4: I had a connection with this person. And a piece 210 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: of it said and a piece of it is very 211 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 4: very real. 212 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I can see how Like in paradise it 213 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 5: is such a fixed environment where you don't have any 214 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 5: of the outside noise to get in the way. 215 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 7: Yep. 216 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 5: So like in a perfect world, you have paradise to 217 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: build that foundation in the relationship and then afterwards you 218 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 5: take it outside and then you allow it to grow 219 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 5: even more in. 220 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: The real world. 221 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: Right. 222 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 5: But I guess in our circumstance, it was just the 223 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 5: different schedules his career, my career. 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So you were doing the right thing 259 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: sometimes and you're getting grief for it, you know, And 260 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: so in those circumstances that probably made it hard for 261 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: you guys too, because there's like conflict and you're hearing 262 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: about it and he's feeling attacked, I'm sure at times, 263 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: and it's like, what the hell can I I can't 264 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: do anything right? You know, And granted I get it, 265 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: there can be personalities that you'll come into play, but 266 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: now having some time to look back on it and 267 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: spending time like you are here where it's sort of 268 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: a little lighter, not as aggressive. Five hundred grand's not 269 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: up for grabs, you know, there's not people getting engaged 270 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: all over the place. I mean, I feel like I 271 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: sense that there's a connection here. I'm just saying I 272 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: feel like, perhaps, you know Detroits in New York. 273 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: I did that. I did that for three years with 274 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: a relationship. 275 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say, you know, it ended up 276 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: working out all right, you know, And then I did 277 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: you tried to La even worse. 278 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 7: It's terrible. 279 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 5: Yes, when it's the right person, you have those feelings 280 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 5: for them, you will do anything to make it work. 281 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but sometimes you got to go through challenges to 282 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: get to the other side to realize that right person 283 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: might be right under your nose. I'm just saying, Okay, 284 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: enough about my pontificating here. 285 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: So I thought it was interesting tonight when we were 286 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: in the. 287 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: Earlier interviews and stuff where Kathy where Brian you you 288 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: got a little fired up a cat right, and you said, uh, 289 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, you basically said to her, You're like, you know, well, 290 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: if it wasn't about the money, why'd you vote us off? Right? 291 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: And I thought it was really interesting because I love 292 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: Kathy and Keith like I adore them. I've done a 293 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: ton of events with them, interviewed them both a billion times, 294 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: and I loved Kathy's kind of she has like a maternal, 295 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: you know, nurturing thing for you. And it was interesting 296 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: cause I asked her earlier, I said, you know, well 297 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: that when that popped up, you know, what was that 298 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: all about? Because we didn't really see that on camera, 299 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: you know, And she even said she's like, She's like, well, 300 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I thought that if they got out of that environment 301 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: that they might be able to make it work. She's like, 302 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: because I did like certain things about their relationship. And 303 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: so when you got Kathy's vote of confidence, I mean, 304 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,239 Speaker 1: you know, you got another. 305 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 7: Stuff in there. 306 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: But I think it's really sweet that you guys see 307 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: and you guys gave each other a big hug out there, 308 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: and like, we're so excited. She was crying when she 309 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: saw you. I mean, there's something special for you too 310 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: as a friend. 311 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: Isn't there. 312 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, when we keep in touch, we talk all the time, 313 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 5: even during that time in Paradise when all this was happening, 314 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 5: Like she was telling me way before the voting, And 315 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I don't know if I've shared all 316 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 5: of this with you during that time there, but I was. 317 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 5: I would go to her all the time, and I 318 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: would vent to her. 319 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 6: I would ask for advice. 320 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 5: She knew I wasn't doing well, and I told her too, 321 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 5: I mean me personally, I didn't sign up for this paradise. 322 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 5: I sign up for the old paradise. I wanted that 323 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: time alone on the beach, at the possible engagement at 324 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 5: the end. And so now with the money mixed in 325 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 5: and the stress of voting, I couldn't take it. I 326 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 5: really couldn't do it anymore. And I told her, I'm like, 327 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 5: I'm not here for the money. I love the challenges. 328 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 5: The challenges I thought were so good for us because 329 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 5: we worked together, and it just also like again I 330 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: kept saying, it shed all these layers for us. 331 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: And I wanted you to be a good team too. 332 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: You know you really did. 333 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 5: It was so it was so funny. The challenge is 334 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 5: something the walkie talkie want. 335 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 6: I thought that was so hilarious. 336 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 7: We were very patient with each other. 337 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 6: We're very patient. 338 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: Well, I heard working half the time, and we caught 339 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: onto that. 340 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 6: Quick, and so I would be I would the whole 341 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 6: Bangal thing. I was like, Bengal be as in, boy. 342 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: Bengal, what are you talking about? 343 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 7: I got it? 344 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Bangel, Okay, so you learned something new. 345 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 5: It was hilarious and like I totally forgot that that 346 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 5: challenge was timed. 347 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 6: And then they're like, okay, times up. 348 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh we were times Like I totally it 349 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 5: was just so much fun. 350 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 7: We did have so much fun. 351 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 5: So I wish Paradise, the whole promise of it. I 352 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 5: wish it changed. I wish it was just the challenges 353 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 5: to bring us closer and you know, to overcome obstacles 354 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 5: together instead of the whole voting. 355 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 6: The voting that that's stress. That was just horrible. 356 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 5: And but yeah, I told all that to Kathy, and 357 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 5: I told her that like, I can't take it. 358 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 6: I can't do it anymore. I don't want the money. 359 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 5: And but that was again there's other couples that are 360 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 5: there for the money, and they are there for all 361 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 5: of that. So she told me, she was like, you know, 362 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 5: like I see something between you guys, and this environment 363 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 5: here might break you. 364 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: It s could be caustic, right, I mean, some of 365 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: those moments can like fuse people together and some of 366 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: them can split them apart. It might have nothing to 367 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: do with what you could have outside of that environment. 368 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's just saying, guys, just one more time 369 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: and then and the thing on the head there, So 370 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: to that point, you know, when you're talking about the voting. 371 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: I remember this episode or the scene of the episode, 372 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: which I thought was hysterical by the way, when Sean 373 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: is out there throwing together the Parliament paradise and it 374 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: looked like Brian, it looked like you were from like 375 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: me to Easton like five feet away, and he's like, 376 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: so here's a deal. We're going to vote off Brian 377 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Frieze and You're like, I'm like, does he not see 378 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: him there? But the way that was shot, I'm like what. 379 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 6: And I'm like, whoa, no, no, yeah. 380 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: I mean it was kind of shot sucking. 381 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: How close he you seemed like you were like it 382 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: looked like you were totally listening in. 383 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 7: I was from Oh God. 384 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: So it wasn't as it was as bad as I 385 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: thought it. 386 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 5: A few times. It wasn't just that scene. It happened 387 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: a few times with him. 388 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 7: Come take a walk with me. 389 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 6: Yeah. 390 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 3: No, I loved it. 391 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: I loved him talking to him and he's just lying 392 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 4: to my face and I'm like, I love it. 393 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: They're flashing back. 394 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 4: He's like, no, yeah, Brian, Yeah, not much I could 395 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 4: really do about it. 396 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: Well, you know, we talked about that a little bit 397 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: tonight too. I think, you know, Parsa, you could tell 398 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: that you were you. You had some things you wanted 399 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: to say tonight, and you said them without creating more conflict, 400 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: which I think is a pretty interesting, remarkable trait. Right. 401 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: It's like, and I think also Brian, you in particular, Uh, 402 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: there were a couple of moments where I'm sure you 403 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: wanted to fly off the handle, and you know, I mean, 404 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: come on, you're in New Yorker, buddy, New Yorkers in 405 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: Detroiter's were we're not that far apart, but action times 406 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: on things, and but you held it back too, And 407 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm interested if if that was something that you liked 408 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: seeing in him when he you know, because I'm sure 409 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: there were some buttons that you knew were being pressed 410 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: by things. Some people were saying he didn't take the bait, 411 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: which you know can happen. Was that something that you 412 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: found to be a redeeming quality because I know, like 413 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: you guys said, you didn't talk for like a month 414 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: and then you came in here and reconnect. 415 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 6: Yeah. Well he did that a lot too. During our 416 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 6: time on the show. 417 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 5: There were moments where he would get really upset and 418 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 5: he would just like hurl his lip. 419 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 420 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 6: I could hear him. 421 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: Swallow and then his tongue. 422 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I could tell, like we would talk about it, 423 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 5: you know, things that bothered him. And but yeah, I've 424 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 5: always acknowledged that and praised him for you know, that composure, 425 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 5: And yeah, you did it again today, and you know 426 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 5: it's you brought up you know, like avoiding conflict. It's 427 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 5: something that it's sad that in today's world, it's like 428 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 5: we avoid bringing up something that bothers us because we 429 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 5: do not want the conflict right, and when we feel 430 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 5: this need to, it's like, okay, I have to move 431 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 5: on from this. I have to bring it up. All 432 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 5: that it does is just create more complex. 433 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure the villain all of a sudden, Yes 434 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: you said that tonight. Yeah, yeah, I thought that was 435 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: really eloquent said. 436 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 6: During the show like I did. 437 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 5: I had, you know, some moments where I wanted to 438 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 5: speak up so much, like it was killing me. But 439 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 5: then I'm like, well then I'm just going to be 440 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 5: made at the aggressor, so why even speak up? Like 441 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 5: I'm capable of brushing things under the rug and moving on, 442 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 5: so why why don't I just do that? 443 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: Then? 444 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 445 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 6: And then in the end though. 446 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 5: When I start seeing how things are played back, then 447 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, I just silenced myself to keep peace. 448 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 6: Is that worth it? 449 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: Is? That is? 450 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 451 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 6: Is that worth it? 452 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: Especially if you're carrying it with you. 453 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, when you have to watch 454 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: the show back and you see how it's edited, and 455 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: you know, there's, like I always used to say, when 456 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: people be like, oh, well you. 457 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: Got a good at it. 458 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: That's why everyone you know thinks you're so nice, I'm like, well, 459 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: if I didn't say stuff, they couldn't use it. 460 00:19:59,200 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 7: Right. 461 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: It wasn't that I I didn't think it. It's just 462 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: I didn't say it, you know. 463 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: And so there's a certain part of that I'm sure 464 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: plays into that, especially on a show like this that, 465 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: let's be honest, this this, this, this new format of 466 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: Veteran in Paradise was put together I think to create 467 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: more tension. Yeah right, I mean, you know who we 468 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: cann't write it does when you introduce money, you introduce 469 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: these contests that you know, and then and then you're 470 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: in a situation where it's like, all of a sudden 471 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: you're looking at each other like, oh my god, do 472 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: I want the money? Do I want this person? 473 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: I don't know? 474 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: And there's there's that element that I think is pretty fascinating. 475 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think there's a. 476 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: Lot to think about there. But I thought you guys 477 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: handled yourself very well. 478 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 3: It was my point. 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I know 488 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: it's probably you're sick of talking about it, but the 489 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: tweet that started World War iree, it seemed out there 490 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: tonight for the conversation when about the whole you bringing 491 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: up to Zoe the whole thing or the Bailey rather 492 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: sort you brought up to Bailey what Jeremy had said 493 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: about Susie, right, and that became kind of a big thing. 494 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: And then it seemed like there was a lot of 495 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: lobbing back and forth, and to that point, Brian didn't 496 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: say a word about it. You sat there tonight like silent, 497 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: while the other two parties were kind of going at it. 498 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 3: Why was that? 499 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: So It's like when something like that occurs, it's like, 500 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 4: let them speak up first, digest it, and then you 501 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 4: could respond. Yeah, And I just watched them where Bailey 502 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: went after Alex and then she went after Andrew, and 503 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 4: then Kat got involved, and it's like, okay, now you 504 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: see how they're getting involved. It's funny because when we're 505 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: at the Row ceremony, none of you people were even 506 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: spoken about the number one target, and she was my 507 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: number one attorney defending me and my partner defending me 508 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: throughout the and that's why then I spoke up afterwards 509 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's interesting how this energy has now 510 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: shifted after viewership has watched this back and shown you 511 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 4: all that you guys. 512 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 7: Are wrong, right, Yeah, and now you. 513 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 4: Guys are pointing fingers at people that Kat said twenty 514 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 4: four hours. You guys have known this for ten, twelve, 515 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 4: fourteen days. What was going on? Yeah, and no one 516 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: spoke up about it, and now you're all turning on 517 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: each other in front of us right now at the reunion. 518 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 7: I'm just gonna sit back and watch And I was 519 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 7: literally didn't joke. 520 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm just gonna sit back and watch 521 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 4: this and not say a word but I'm gonna chime 522 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 4: in afterwards and be like where was this energy then? 523 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 4: When I became target number one and her and I 524 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 4: were like literally on the chopping block for like three 525 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: ceremonies in a row after and it's like, oh, we 526 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: can't trust them, we can't trust them. 527 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 7: Trust me about what? Like what do you guys have 528 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 7: to hide? Like there's you know what I mean? 529 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 3: Like I'm the ones interesting, right, It was. 530 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 4: Like I'm not a snitch around a rat like whatever 531 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: you want to call it, Like, I'm Bailey is like 532 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: an amazing person. She's the most well rounded, probably the 533 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: most well rounded individual out of our entire group. I 534 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 4: think a lot of people would say that about her. 535 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 4: So I just the energy shift. 536 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 7: I just had to watch it. 537 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was interesting to watch talking what's 538 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: going on? He was like public good. 539 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 7: To watch because I'm like, I don't even think I've 540 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 7: ever been. 541 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: In a more intense moment that Rose ceremony because I 542 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: walked into it thinking was like, you know, something might 543 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: happen tonight, like because of what I said. But it 544 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 4: was intense, like Andrew attacking me, Spencer attacked me them, 545 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: like judging our relationship without contact. Even Spencer I mentioned it, like, 546 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: you know, it's twelve things, twelve roomors said, Oh day, 547 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 4: I don't know which one's true. Well, that night you 548 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 4: knew every single one which was true, which was not true, 549 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: And he was just assuming everything even when he was 550 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 4: saying and portraying today he was guilty of in that 551 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: moment during that row ceremony, which he did kind of 552 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: pay homage and like respect me. Later he's like, listen, 553 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 4: takes so much heat that night. 554 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: Idea. 555 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, that like I got to give you a lot 556 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 7: of respect. 557 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: You never got defensive, right, and. 558 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: That's that's not an easy thing to do, right. I 559 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: mean I get defensive about everything. I mean, looking at me, 560 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: call me fat. 561 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I thought. 562 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: I thought it's gotta be hard because I've had a 563 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: situation in my life too where you're expected to have 564 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: a bro code, right, And it's like, why if by 565 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: bro does something dumb and it's going to hurt someone, 566 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to somehow protect him so this person gets hurt. 567 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't. 568 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily agree with that, you know what I mean. 569 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: So I think there's a certain line that can happen 570 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: where you're going to be like, you know, I'm not 571 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: sure how I feel about that, and I think you 572 00:24:53,560 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: handled that well. So all right, last question saw in 573 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: the VIP lounge, I didn't even know what we were 574 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: talking about tonight until that came up. And the favorite 575 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: color thing, which I thought was really kind of funny 576 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: that you you chose magenta. Is it show that in 577 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: retrospect now it looked like you you kind of recognized 578 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: that you handled that situation poorly for sure? 579 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: Did that mean anything to you, Teresa? 580 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: Well? 581 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 6: He also he recognized it that night. 582 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 5: Later that night too, we talked about it. It was 583 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 5: hours later, like he I can't I don't know even 584 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 5: know if I was like in the kitchen in the suite, 585 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 5: he like walked in, he was like, look, I'm really 586 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 5: sorry about all that, and he explained I knew like 587 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 5: he was hot, tired, hungry, and. 588 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 3: Like you said, you were all hot, tired and hungry. 589 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I know, it was more I understood where 590 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 5: it came from. Yeah, And it was more my point 591 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 5: of it was exactly that, like we all were, but 592 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 5: like I adapted to the situation and I knew if 593 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 5: I just smiled and like, you know, gave the. 594 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 6: Producers that last shot. 595 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 5: That's all they want, that lash out of us walking 596 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 5: in and like, you know, talking about how excited we 597 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 5: are to have this night together. I knew then that's done, 598 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 5: they're gone, and we have the whole night to just 599 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: enjoy what we worked hard for to win. Yeah, and yeah, 600 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 5: it was just we talked about it. It was just unfortunate 601 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 5: that like in that moment in the beginning, he just 602 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 5: had a hard time just like adjusting. 603 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 7: I felt a little short. 604 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it can happen, right, Yeah, and it does. 605 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 5: And that's what I was saying too, like when we 606 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 5: brought it up again, I don't want one low moment 607 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 5: to be something that's so big that labels him. Sure, 608 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 5: you know, it's like we all have moments like that, 609 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 5: you know. And it's again, it was just unfortunate that 610 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 5: it happened during that time. But I don't think that, 611 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 5: you know, after producers left, the cameras left, like that 612 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 5: wasn't the rest of our night, right, it wasn't. And 613 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 5: so it's yeah, it was just like you know, like 614 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,239 Speaker 5: we're all good. It's probably gonna happen again one day 615 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 5: in the future too. It's like, you know, you catch 616 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 5: them at the wrong time when they're hungry and hot 617 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 5: and irritated, you know, like we're not perfect. It's going 618 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 5: to happen. But he recognized it that night and we 619 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 5: talked about it. 620 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I was lying, I have one more question. Actually 621 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: I have two more so and then then we have 622 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: to wrap it up. I know we're running out of it. 623 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 1: We're running out of tape apparently. So was this your 624 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: first time seeing each other since you guys broke up? 625 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: First of all. Secondly, how are you guys feeling right now? 626 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: Like cause I feel I don't know if I'm the 627 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: only one I feel the love in the room. 628 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 3: I do I feel it. 629 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 7: I just do. 630 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: I like you guys together, and I. 631 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: Think that, you know, sometimes you need that balance of 632 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: he can be a hothead. Yeah he needs somebody like 633 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: you to keep him kind of in check, and then 634 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: maybe she can get emotional or maybe actually would probably 635 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: be maybe you might be too nice sometimes I'm sort 636 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: of seeing that because I weedy traders have that same vibe. 637 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: So we need this guy. 638 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: To come in and kind of, you know, be like, 639 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: let's go, let's move it along. I don't know, I'm 640 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: just putting out there, But is this the first time 641 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: you guys saw e show us as a breakup and 642 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: what are you? 643 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 3: Where are your heads right now? 644 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 5: So in like right after we got back from Paradise, 645 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 5: I went to New York and saw him and it 646 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: was nice. It was a good weekend. But then it 647 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 5: was like that was it. We went back to work 648 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 5: and like then yeah, you know, like his work schedule again, 649 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 5: like he. 650 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 6: Just was just not available. 651 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 5: And again I'm not holding that against him at all, 652 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 5: Like this is like we're going to have times in 653 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 5: our lives where our career is just it has to 654 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 5: be number one priority, sure, and it it just was tough. 655 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: And so the timing was tough, right, you come off 656 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: the show where you want to be together more. But 657 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: he's also got to bury himself in this thing. He's 658 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: thrown everything he's got into his. 659 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 4: Career literally just opened. I came back and we just 660 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: open the doors. 661 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: Brian, where's your head? Like where's your where are you? 662 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: Where are you at right now with this relationship? Better 663 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: not be what your hat says. 664 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: This is just fun that like the season's over and 665 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: you know it's it's lighthearted. Every all of us cast, 666 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: We all love each other. As deep as it may seem, 667 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: it's not that deep. And I think she's an amazing 668 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: person and she's a lot of fun to be with, 669 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: a lot of fun to talk to, and she's super supportive. 670 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 7: And it's. 671 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's is the door open, is all I 672 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: guess look at each other. 673 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 7: It's like. 674 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: Well, and it's like almost like where we were in 675 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: Paradise again. 676 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: I like that. 677 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 7: I think I think it's interesting. 678 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: I think I might buy you, guys from Margarita's tonight's 679 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: expense to count here at my heart. 680 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys do that. I don't 681 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: know if I even if they even know I have 682 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: an expens account. I'm gonna use MYHR. 683 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: Credit card tonight. 684 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: All right, you guys, Well, I happen to really like 685 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: the two of you. I think that I I don't 686 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: know why I feel a kinship with Prisa because we're detroiter's. 687 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: I did have a family member from Massapequal Park, so 688 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: I know Long Island. But I wish you too so well, 689 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: and I hope that this could potentially turn back into 690 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: something for you guys. But thank you for coming on 691 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast with us. Thanks for sharing your lives, listen, 692 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: and where things are. I wish you both the absolute best, 693 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna definitely come out to your restaurant. 694 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: And I don't expect to be fully comped. Yeah, I 695 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: do expect at least I'm our teamier tip. All Right, 696 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: you guys, thank you so much. You have a great 697 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: rest of your night.