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Speaker 1: Out with Sean Merriman. What's up? Guys, were back again
Speaker 1: with another Lights out podcast with me Seawan Merriman and uh,
Speaker 1: trying to trying to get some of these guys this
Speaker 1: week who uh you know either play for organization that
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl or know a lot about it.
Speaker 1: And the day we got Team j Ward Man drafted
Speaker 1: two thousand ten to the Cleveland Brown end up winning
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in two thousand and fourteen with the
Speaker 1: Denver broncos Um and then also going up playing uh
Speaker 1: for Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And you know it's interesting because, uh,
Speaker 1: this is now the second person outside of it. We
Speaker 1: had Gerald McCoy on UM last week and he talked
Speaker 1: about the culture being there already with Tampa they had,
Speaker 1: you know, the talent was there and they had it
Speaker 1: to win. But you know, Tom Brady going into the
Speaker 1: organization now and walking into a really good situation be
Speaker 1: able to win some football games. Also, congratulations to TJ
Speaker 1: Man becoming a dad for the first time. That's that's awesome.
Speaker 1: And uh, this is great man. So listen up, t J. Ward.
Speaker 1: I'm in uh, I'm in Cali, dude. But you know
Speaker 1: I'm about to make that exit out of here soon.
Speaker 1: And you know it's it's same within the bay. You
Speaker 1: guys are dealing the same thing. It's it's dead, right.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of a lot of the stuff
Speaker 1: closed down. I think they just had to stay at home.
Speaker 1: Thing lifted, right, yeah, lifted a little bit um last week.
Speaker 1: I'm actually I reside in Colorado. I'm still in Denver
Speaker 1: in that area. I'm just down here in my parents
Speaker 1: and stuff. But yeah, they got a little live, little outdoor.
Speaker 1: They got some outdoor dyning and stuff. It's so Denver,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what you call it home now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where I'm home. Or should I've been there since
Speaker 1: I got here, but yeah, so it's been like seven
Speaker 1: years now, Okay, okay, dope. I was also in the
Speaker 1: eighth for a little bit too, though. I was out
Speaker 1: there for a couple of years. That's right. But you
Speaker 1: you would like doing the all season and stuff, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I used to go out there and uh and train
Speaker 1: with um with Chuck Smith, who's you know, the pass
Speaker 1: rushing coach. Okay, I used to go out there doing
Speaker 1: the all season, so I still send a lot of casts.
Speaker 1: Man is trying to just work on the you know,
Speaker 1: because he got a whole signs behind what you do
Speaker 1: out there. It ain't like regular pass rush. But um,
Speaker 1: you got you got a lot of stuff going on, man,
Speaker 1: you know as far as the uh, I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: get to all the football stuff. Man. I thought it
Speaker 1: was dope that you, um, you know, got the clothing
Speaker 1: line right that you're doing. So I've been in fact,
Speaker 1: so I don't know who told you about fashion and
Speaker 1: who kind of broke down the business. But when I
Speaker 1: got into it, I knew nothing about it, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know I had the lights out brand and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, but I knew nothing about the fashion industry.
Speaker 1: And it's a lot, you know, it's a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: you got your designers, you got your manufacturing and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. Man, So who kind of puts you on
Speaker 1: the clothing line intry? H Man? I've always been addresser,
Speaker 1: you know, I've always you know, interested in the game.
Speaker 1: Um from designing, man. I remember I was designing jeans
Speaker 1: and sneakers in high school. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: I'm cutting Louis up and putting on jeans and making
Speaker 1: different stuff like that. So I've always been interest of mine.
Speaker 1: Just kind of got away with it with focusing on
Speaker 1: football and you know, my main passion. So now that
Speaker 1: you know I'm retiring, I'm gonna get back into it,
Speaker 1: you know, focus a little bit more on on my
Speaker 1: style and my brand. How much of that was going
Speaker 1: through your mind? Like when you got drafted? Right? So
Speaker 1: I came in and I had, you know, I had
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur mindset. I always wanted to do with something
Speaker 1: outside of football because I had passions outside of playing
Speaker 1: the game. Um, but when when did that click? Ain't
Speaker 1: for you because a lot of cash when they come in, Man,
Speaker 1: they just they don't have that yet. So when when
Speaker 1: did that start happening with um? You know what? It
Speaker 1: started happening, Like I said a little bit later, once
Speaker 1: I felt that I got the graphs on being a
Speaker 1: professional football player, you understand. So I was like, let me,
Speaker 1: let me, let me focus on ball, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to get to these Pro Bowls and and and win
Speaker 1: the championship and you know, leading my mark on the league,
Speaker 1: and then maybe I can start you know, branching out
Speaker 1: and showing an interest in another things. So I say
Speaker 1: probably around year four or five. Yeah, and that was
Speaker 1: holding you were there. You was in Cleveland for four years,
Speaker 1: four or five, four or five years, four years, so
Speaker 1: two thousand ten, yep, right, And so I remember I
Speaker 1: remember when you got drafted, man, because I was like
Speaker 1: this dude was a dog. And I remember watching you
Speaker 1: because I I just went over to the Buffalo Bills. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, like Cleveland with somebody who
Speaker 1: was in the mix who wanted me to go there
Speaker 1: after I left the charges. So I was looking at
Speaker 1: the defense and y'all was stacked over there. Y'all had
Speaker 1: some y'all had some guys. Y'all was I was the
Speaker 1: was the quail over there? What you guys at the
Speaker 1: same time you was over there. I don't know what
Speaker 1: year you had. What year actually you left? Uh san
Speaker 1: diege okay, Yeah, So we had uh Scot Feld Jeeta
Speaker 1: has signed as a free agent. Yep. Uh, we had
Speaker 1: big Baby. We had my tell Joe Hayden, we're rookies.
Speaker 1: D Q. Sheldon Brown has signed as a free agent.
Speaker 1: That year two aired right, Mike Adams. Man, we had
Speaker 1: some players, man, Matt Roth had ended up signing or
Speaker 1: I don't know, a year, right, he had a couple.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of big years there, right, was
Speaker 1: he did? Yeah? He was bothering, he was boling. But
Speaker 1: we were stout. We were stout, So what so what
Speaker 1: was it? Because I always look at it and I
Speaker 1: said the same thing when I went to the Bills
Speaker 1: because we were start. We had guys over there too,
Speaker 1: and we just wasn't winning a lot of games. And
Speaker 1: I look back on and now I'm like, man, how
Speaker 1: how you have all them dogs in the locker room
Speaker 1: and you can just never really get over the hump?
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So what happened over Because
Speaker 1: I used to talk to the quail all the time.
Speaker 1: I said, he's He would tell me that, and I
Speaker 1: was looking at the defense. He said, man, we got
Speaker 1: some we got some guys over head that can flat
Speaker 1: out go and I'll go back and look and then
Speaker 1: the records just be crazy. You know, it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: all that good. And I'm like, what's going on over there? Yeah? Man,
Speaker 1: we I think I mean, it's hard to control on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, right, So, I mean we
Speaker 1: had a great defense. I think maybe we finished top
Speaker 1: five when we had Ray Horden as our coordinator. And
Speaker 1: I think it starts with putting guys in the right position,
Speaker 1: playing guys, you know, to the best of ability. You
Speaker 1: know you've been you've played for coaches that you know
Speaker 1: aren't using players the way they should be used. Like
Speaker 1: that's the worst thing a player can experience, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken. Man, I hate, like I hated when the
Speaker 1: coach will putting me in position that didn't use a
Speaker 1: utilize me to my best ability. And I think that
Speaker 1: happened a lot of times in Cleveland with you know,
Speaker 1: three coaches in four years. Yeah, so you know, like
Speaker 1: talk about that because I always say this, man, you
Speaker 1: got um, you got a lot of really good players.
Speaker 1: They get stuck in, in my opinion, and some bad situations,
Speaker 1: whether it's coaching, whether it's you know, the locker room,
Speaker 1: whatever is going on at the time, and you know,
Speaker 1: you don't really get the eyeballs right as you should. Man,
Speaker 1: So like you're going to you guys had different culches,
Speaker 1: you know every year or every few years, and then
Speaker 1: you know everything you know put in a different situation
Speaker 1: and especially do a different thing, like what what happened
Speaker 1: like when that, when that happened with you guys over there,
Speaker 1: you know what. Uh. When I came in, we had
Speaker 1: Rob Ryan. He was cool. I loved you. Um, he
Speaker 1: used me the way I felt I should be used.
Speaker 1: I had great, uh first season, and then we got
Speaker 1: Dick Gerond and that was different because we switched to
Speaker 1: a four three. Uh. I was setting the edge a lot.
Speaker 1: I was always you know, building the wall, and they
Speaker 1: were bringing you up in the box a lot. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean I would blizz some but occasionally, and I
Speaker 1: just I feel like I was just a stagnant player,
Speaker 1: like a pond in the defense. And then we got
Speaker 1: Ray Horton two years. We went back to the three
Speaker 1: four and went to a more of a Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: style of defense. And I was active. You know. He'd
Speaker 1: had me move over here, lined up over here, blissing
Speaker 1: in the middle, bliss from outside, you know, cover the man,
Speaker 1: and it was doing everything that I wanted to do.
Speaker 1: I had my best season there, but like you said,
Speaker 1: to come back to not getting the uh the viewers,
Speaker 1: you know, because we only played one primetime game in
Speaker 1: my four years there, and that was Thursday night in
Speaker 1: four years my last year there, we played the Thursday
Speaker 1: night before. You know, Thursday Night was everybody had to
Speaker 1: play Thursday night. Everybody didn't get Thursday night. So this right,
Speaker 1: this was you know, it was huge for me. It
Speaker 1: was like a super Bowl game for me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is my only prime time game since I've played here,
Speaker 1: you know, so it was a super Bowl ball too, Joe.
Speaker 1: So so I'm gonna go back to, like what you said,
Speaker 1: you guys are stacked on defense. What you think the
Speaker 1: difference is now and their success and how they're bawling
Speaker 1: out there and the team that they have in the
Speaker 1: aile from when you were there, because I look at it,
Speaker 1: you guys, I mean other you've got Miles Garrett, you
Speaker 1: know a few guys that's that's kind of standing out
Speaker 1: playing extremely well right now. But you guys have some
Speaker 1: dogs then, So what do you think the difference is
Speaker 1: now in why Cleveland is when it when the ball game.
Speaker 1: I think they're playing a lot better as a unit.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have as many recognizable individual players
Speaker 1: on their defense. If you look up, you know, like
Speaker 1: you said, you got Miles Geared and uh Dennis the award.
Speaker 1: You know, a couple of guys, but you know they're
Speaker 1: playing really well as unit. They've had guys come in
Speaker 1: and out, um and you know, feeling nicely. But you
Speaker 1: know the coaching staff has done a great job over
Speaker 1: there with them. That's what you know. That's what you
Speaker 1: see when you have a lack of talent and guys
Speaker 1: that you know get hurt and the next guy and
Speaker 1: the next man up. You know, you gotta attribute that
Speaker 1: to coach, right, And so I say that sometimes because
Speaker 1: you don't want to throw you don't want to throw
Speaker 1: shade organizational throw shade and no players or anything like.
Speaker 1: But the facts is this. You know, you get one
Speaker 1: of two players in the organization and you guys had
Speaker 1: a squad around them around that time period. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and you know, for whatever reason, we couldn't get both
Speaker 1: sides working as one. But uh, they're doing it now,
Speaker 1: especially with that run game defense. We love the running game, right,
Speaker 1: and when it comes in into the heavy part of
Speaker 1: the season, you better have some running backs, man, because
Speaker 1: the passing is nice when you need them tough yards
Speaker 1: and you need to keep the ball out of the
Speaker 1: other team's offense out of the other offensive hands. And
Speaker 1: it's lovely to have that running game work. And and so, okay,
Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen, you end up going to UH
Speaker 1: to the Broncos, right, And that was was that paydent
Speaker 1: that was paid the second year, second year, second year
Speaker 1: and so and I got this debate all the time,
Speaker 1: and I said, I say that, people look at me
Speaker 1: like I'm crazy, but I always say that I think
Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning was a better quarterback than Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: M hm. And you played with him. So if you
Speaker 1: and I not to take the rings, let's take the
Speaker 1: rings out, because you know you can those gonna crush
Speaker 1: anybody in any given day. But who Who's who's the
Speaker 1: better quarterback in your opinion? I mean, I gotta go
Speaker 1: with Peyton, you know, just seeing him prepared, being on
Speaker 1: his team week to week, day to day. Um, tom
Speaker 1: Brady is great. I wasn't unfortunate enough to be on
Speaker 1: his team, Meeter, But um, I don't think there's anybody
Speaker 1: that that dieferent things that Peyton did. One thing I
Speaker 1: try to tell people. So when I got when I
Speaker 1: got drafted, I went down to the Pro Bowl in
Speaker 1: two thousand five or six and my first time beating Peyton.
Speaker 1: So you always you see you see dudes on TV
Speaker 1: and you see him on the fields. You never get
Speaker 1: a chance to be around him like off the field
Speaker 1: or you see him out, you know, outside of that
Speaker 1: normal habitat. And when people ask me, I said, man, listen,
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning is so damn cool, man like, funny, laid
Speaker 1: back and just something you don't even totally expect. You
Speaker 1: agree with that? No, I absolutely agree because I didn't
Speaker 1: expect it when I got here, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: people actually the same thing, like paying cool as much
Speaker 1: as joking. And you see him in character doing different
Speaker 1: commercials and things like that on TV. That's exactly how
Speaker 1: he is. Like, he's very laid back, sarcastic, funny, like
Speaker 1: joking manner. That's that's exactly how he is. You remember
Speaker 1: him doing anything like back when you were playing him playing,
Speaker 1: because I remember him playing jokes over at the Pro Bowl. Man,
Speaker 1: he had put a video together, um coming in the
Speaker 1: form of one of his commercials or something. I can't
Speaker 1: even exactly remember who was it. Who it was about?
Speaker 1: What I want to say was some of the coaches,
Speaker 1: but it was pretty funny. He had put a little
Speaker 1: skit together for the team. He was the Peyton was
Speaker 1: the first person I've asked for an autograph from and
Speaker 1: um it was my my rookie ye over to the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. And he gave me his practice jersey too.
Speaker 1: And then we got back and I saw him around
Speaker 1: the pool like laughing, and you know, we've having a
Speaker 1: couple of dreams, kicking back, having a good time. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I remember my all my family was
Speaker 1: that I want to back up in the hotel and
Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm chilling with Peyton Manning. You know,
Speaker 1: ray lewis everybody over here, So I'm still you know,
Speaker 1: I'm the youngest one there. Yeah, I go and I
Speaker 1: tell the fam, I said, man, I was just down
Speaker 1: there with Peyton Manning may cool as hell, you know,
Speaker 1: just cracking jokes and playing around me. He's nothing like
Speaker 1: what you you know, what you see on Sundays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a different type. I guess when you get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to come out of that quarterback mind set, you know,
Speaker 1: because you are the face of every organization, and you
Speaker 1: know you gotta walk a fine line and do things,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, straight and narrow, so it is it
Speaker 1: is cool to see guys and especially players of his
Speaker 1: caliber come out their ship. What was it different when
Speaker 1: you went out there too with the Broncos because I know,
Speaker 1: change the organizations man. For me was yeah, I played
Speaker 1: most of my career with the Charges, but I got
Speaker 1: out there with the Bills man and the organization, how
Speaker 1: they operated, everything was just was just completely was just different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was different for sure when I got to Denver,
Speaker 1: like Peyton, Like I was saying in a couple of
Speaker 1: other interviews that we got the first team meeting. You know,
Speaker 1: the staff talks, coaches stuff talk, head coach talks, you know,
Speaker 1: usually Jim talks, and everybody goes along their way. So
Speaker 1: I believe after Mr Elway had talked, Peyton talked after
Speaker 1: everybody else, and I was like, Okay, this is a
Speaker 1: different caliber player, Like this dude is different. Now. He
Speaker 1: definitely had that pool at that pool that you you
Speaker 1: left it and then you end up going to Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, I had your I had your boyyard
Speaker 1: Jerald McCoy on last week too. Yeah, he came on
Speaker 1: and you know what, you know, what's funny what he
Speaker 1: said was it kind of that kind of threw me
Speaker 1: for a loop. He said that he thought the team
Speaker 1: was already good down there. What you guys had. I mean,
Speaker 1: Brady kind of came in and and and took over
Speaker 1: a good ship. But he said, I mean, you got
Speaker 1: that nucleus. Was they already? Man, that nucleus was there.
Speaker 1: That was the reason I chose to go there after
Speaker 1: leaving Denver because we had some great players on that team.
Speaker 1: And you know, I hate to well, actually I don't
Speaker 1: hate to, man, we didn't have good coaches straight up,
Speaker 1: no you x G and whoever else. They might be
Speaker 1: polite about it, but it just was a but the
Speaker 1: ship wasn't being steered in the right direction. And that
Speaker 1: what what? What? Why? Okay? And I think I know
Speaker 1: what you're saying because I've seen that. And once you
Speaker 1: go from having great coaches and not so great coaches,
Speaker 1: and I got blessed. I played for you know, Marty Schottenheim,
Speaker 1: a Way Phillips, and you know, all these great coaches
Speaker 1: came in and so I got spoilers. You go and
Speaker 1: experience other coaches, You're like, I see it different. What
Speaker 1: what was the difference from leaving from your other organizations
Speaker 1: that going there. I just felt the way we went
Speaker 1: about trying to win was not not successful and it
Speaker 1: was showing it. There's no way that the way we
Speaker 1: operated was going to yield success. Just coming from unsuccessful
Speaker 1: teams and winning the Super Bowl. You know, I've seen
Speaker 1: the worst of the words and I've seen you know,
Speaker 1: the best of the best, and you know, this was
Speaker 1: on the side of the worst of the worst. Like,
Speaker 1: it was not championship preparation. I just didn't feel like
Speaker 1: we were at least I got divided. A lot of
Speaker 1: the felt that these coaches weren't trying to ultimately win. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it was. It was different than I had Corey Legit
Speaker 1: on a few days ago too, and he was talking
Speaker 1: about Houston when he got down there. He said, some
Speaker 1: of the guys just laying out in the field and
Speaker 1: just the culture was different from the organizations he's been to.
Speaker 1: And I said, man, that's how you know that, you know,
Speaker 1: either the coaches or just that whole culture, Man, is
Speaker 1: different the teams I played on with the charges, we
Speaker 1: wasn't have none of that, Like the coaches didn't even
Speaker 1: really have to say nothing. Yeah, the coaches actually didn't
Speaker 1: even really operate now we you know the players we
Speaker 1: ran a team to see. That's the sign of a
Speaker 1: good coach too, because he lets his older and he's
Speaker 1: more you know, savvy players take leadership. Some coaches don't
Speaker 1: even let you do that. Like you got a group
Speaker 1: of captains and guys that have been in the league
Speaker 1: six seven, eight, nine years and you don't even honor
Speaker 1: their input. So like a sign of a good coach.
Speaker 1: Like Arian said um in his interview, you was like, man,
Speaker 1: I sit back and let Tom coach. Sometimes just let
Speaker 1: Tom do talk. And sometimes you just gotta let your
Speaker 1: good players do that. In Denver, coach cool let us
Speaker 1: do that. Coach Cool letting his vets and his older
Speaker 1: players and his wiser players, d Ware and a kid,
Speaker 1: and myself, Chris, everybody else. Peyton be ourselves. You know,
Speaker 1: he let us be leaders, lead the team. And like
Speaker 1: you said, we didn't need no coaches to step up
Speaker 1: and say, oh you out of line or we need
Speaker 1: more from you know, we did that. Wash was Peyton
Speaker 1: called most calling most of those plays, A lot of
Speaker 1: those plays when you are in Denver. Uh uh, you
Speaker 1: know he offensively for sure, I mean overwall. You know,
Speaker 1: we all had a mutual a mutual respect for Payton,
Speaker 1: you know, M d ware. Those are like the elder
Speaker 1: statement on our team. They had the last word at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. All right, let's wool, let's
Speaker 1: take it to d Let's take it to page and
Speaker 1: see what they say, and we'll go from there. But
Speaker 1: that's really, how, honestly how I went. So, so what
Speaker 1: you got up to now? Man? I know you got
Speaker 1: outside of the fact stuff. You got your foundation, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got uh well, I actually changed it to the
Speaker 1: war Boy Foundation, and yeah, I got that going out
Speaker 1: here in Denver, or in Denver and out here in
Speaker 1: the Bay area. So so what is it tell me
Speaker 1: about it? So when things start opening back up, man,
Speaker 1: I just I just got a lot of things, uh
Speaker 1: welling our things, programs and opportunities for youth, whether it's
Speaker 1: the camp or writing program I had out in Denver,
Speaker 1: my camp, or my golf tournament, and getting those things
Speaker 1: back and running, you know, as soon as things clear up,
Speaker 1: because obviously we had to put a hold on with
Speaker 1: you know, our situation with COVID, you know, but right
Speaker 1: interested in getting that back going. Um, I got my
Speaker 1: juice bar in Atlanta. I was saying that's really why
Speaker 1: I was out there. I was getting that up off
Speaker 1: the ground for about a year and a half, two years.
Speaker 1: What's it called. It's called Juicy j U I C
Speaker 1: C E E. It's out there and make donea Georgia
Speaker 1: about okay, forty minutes south of downtown. And uh, you
Speaker 1: know I opened that just because I love smoothies and
Speaker 1: you know, on my health I try to be healthy,
Speaker 1: and but I started my day off with a smoothie
Speaker 1: every day. What did you start getting like that? Though?
Speaker 1: When When did you start won the health kare? I
Speaker 1: started late, man, I was when I played. I really
Speaker 1: wasn't in it like that. Um, but you know when
Speaker 1: I got closer into my career and I retired, man
Speaker 1: I got I got in that healthcare quick and I
Speaker 1: probably got into it like really smooth It is probably
Speaker 1: a year six, you know, you're six year five year six,
Speaker 1: And I started just getting them in the building, you know,
Speaker 1: in the mornings and stuff and finding myself trying to
Speaker 1: find more organic type instead of like the Jamba juices
Speaker 1: and thinking that's healthy, but really those just that's that's
Speaker 1: so mine is organic. You know, we fresh press juices,
Speaker 1: you know, we have foods and stuff toasts and you know,
Speaker 1: things that you can grab and go and be real
Speaker 1: healthy about. Yeah, because at the time, um, you don't
Speaker 1: really know what like what the hell of the stuff.
Speaker 1: I was eating pizzas and I was drinking. Like when
Speaker 1: I played drinking, I would actually go get in shape,
Speaker 1: you know, go gett in shape, eat what I want. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm That's how we was. We was living like you
Speaker 1: think that you can eat what you want to drinking
Speaker 1: what you want to be good. But even now, I
Speaker 1: look back at some of the times where I thought
Speaker 1: I was in shape and I was like, bro, you're
Speaker 1: not in shape at all. Like I can see you
Speaker 1: right there. I can tell you're not in shape. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we live and we learned your father now too, right,
Speaker 1: just not what not you long ago? Congratulations, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta five six months now. His name is Terrell the Third,
Speaker 1: so we call them three three war. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: hearing him about sixteen years. You'll be hearing about it.
Speaker 1: You'll be busting out on the scene. You're gonna let
Speaker 1: him play football. Yeah, I'm gonna le him play food,
Speaker 1: but I'm gona let him play whatever he wants. I think, um,
Speaker 1: you know, his his mother, his mother's side of the family,
Speaker 1: they play a lot of baseball. So put that, you know,
Speaker 1: put that badness hand earlier. Yeah, you wanna play quarterback
Speaker 1: or you wouldn't play baseball? Right, everybody? I got ten
Speaker 1: year old something, man, So everybody asked me. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna let your kid play football? And
Speaker 1: I said, why why wouldn't I you know, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: you let your kids play football and really deprive him
Speaker 1: of exactly, you know, even giving him that option exactly.
Speaker 1: I think, especially having sons, they're gonna look up to
Speaker 1: you regardless, and they see what you did and being successful,
Speaker 1: and you did it at the ultimate level and at
Speaker 1: its best, So why wouldn't they want to do that?
Speaker 1: You know, they know that obviously they're blessed with that
Speaker 1: ability because it's naturally gonna be handed down. So if
Speaker 1: they want to do it, I'm all forward. If not,
Speaker 1: and I'm on forward too, let's do something else right now.
Speaker 1: You gotta be there when you got be there, So
Speaker 1: that's what's up might do? Hey, my man, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming on. I know you are you are you
Speaker 1: going to do anything for the shoot bow or you're
Speaker 1: gonna or you just be back. Now I'm gonna kick
Speaker 1: back here Chip with the fan. Man, it's been a
Speaker 1: year since I've been home, so just blessing to see
Speaker 1: them the first time. You know, my people have been
Speaker 1: able to see the baby and everything. So yep, I
Speaker 1: brought the baby with me, so we're keeping back. That's
Speaker 1: what's up, bro. He appreciate you coming on my dude,
Speaker 1: thank you. But now man, thanks having me. Man, keep up,
Speaker 1: keep up a good word. Thanks guys for listening in
Speaker 1: to another lights Out podcast with me. Sean Merriman and uh,
Speaker 1: that was that was really cool for me. Remember uh
Speaker 1: when he got drafted in two thousand and ten and
Speaker 1: I was just leaving a charge that's headed out to
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills at the time that Cleveland Browns is
Speaker 1: one of the teams that was interested in bringing me in,
Speaker 1: and I remember looking at their defense and they had
Speaker 1: all these studs over there. Also my former teammate with
Speaker 1: the Quill Jackson, and I thought I was being Cleveland
Speaker 1: brown for a short period of time and get a
Speaker 1: chance to play with guys like t J. Ward. But
Speaker 1: he brought it. He brought it um doing a lot
Speaker 1: of great things now, So thanks guys, appreciate it. Listening
Speaker 1: in again to another lights Out podcast for me, Sean Raymond,
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Speaker 1: those great reviews and uh we're going up man, this
Speaker 1: is awesome. And try to have a couple more guys
Speaker 1: on before the Super Bowl weekend and get some of
Speaker 1: these great super Bowl picks in. But I think this
Speaker 1: is this is probably gonna be one of the best
Speaker 1: super Bowls we've taken a long time with these two
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks. So thanks