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Speaker 2: The Michael Very Show is on the air.

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Speaker 3: America first includes all Americans, regardless of their race, their gender,

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Speaker 3: or their sexual orientation.

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Speaker 1: Why don't weliveate these United States? We're the ones who

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Speaker 1: need didn't work.

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Speaker 4: That's the rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: Help us barchmanchage and let's rebuild the Mary. First, our

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Speaker 1: high is bridges at fun far who's less?

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Speaker 4: Who has been cursed?

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Speaker 1: There's things to be down all over the world, but

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Speaker 1: let's rebuild them married.

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Speaker 3: The first our message to Black Americans tonight is this,

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Speaker 3: we want you what we want for every American. Safe neighborhoods,

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Speaker 3: good jobs, clean streets, a country where you are judged

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Speaker 3: based on the content of your character, not the color

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Speaker 3: of your skin or your political beliefs, and watching.

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Speaker 1: The bad who's in charge of it all?

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Speaker 4: God bless the army.

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Speaker 1: Got this o liberty, get down the wrist of it all.

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Speaker 4: Give man and positionion back and away.

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Speaker 2: Freedom is stuck in.

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Speaker 4: First, let's get out.

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Speaker 1: Of rack, get back on the track, and let's rebuild

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Speaker 1: and married.

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Speaker 5: The first.

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Speaker 3: Our message to gay Americans tonight is this, You're free

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Speaker 3: to marry who you want. If you want without the

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Speaker 3: government standing in your way.

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Speaker 4: What'small.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that boys get to compete with girls

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Speaker 3: in girls' sports, or you do genital mutilation and chemical

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Speaker 1: Why don't deliberate these United States? We're the ones who need.

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Speaker 4: It the most. You think I'm blowing to smoke boys,

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Speaker 4: It ain't no goat.

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Speaker 1: I make twenty eight fifty years coast codes.

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Speaker 3: You get ahead in the United States with your own

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Speaker 3: hard work, your own commitment, your own dedication, and that

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Speaker 3: you know what, you are free to speak your mind

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Speaker 3: at every step of the way.

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Speaker 6: That is the American dream. That is what we are

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Speaker 6: running too.

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Speaker 3: And that is what we get when we send Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump back to the White House.

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Speaker 6: Little Merle Haggard, little patriotism. It's a good times. It's

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Speaker 6: a good times. Crockett now went to the Texans game

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Speaker 6: on Sunday. Texans had some rough years along the way

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Speaker 6: twenty eleven, twelve, thirteen. Right in there, there were some

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Speaker 6: there were some good teams, but this was a startup franchise.

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Speaker 6: When Bob McNair brought the franchise back to or brought

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Speaker 6: the initial franchise because I guess technically it's not the

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Speaker 6: It was difficult, you know. We we had some some

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Speaker 6: folks that stole our hearts with the Astros, but we

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Speaker 6: of amazing teams. It's just a better feeling when you're winning.

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Speaker 6: It's a good feeling in America. The right people are

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Speaker 6: it's a state of army. It's a state of balance

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Speaker 6: and goodness. It's felt like we were losing for so

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Speaker 6: long that finally we get to it feels like we

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Speaker 6: the polls reflect Trump is winning. I understand that is

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Speaker 6: an opinion of certain people. And let me explain to

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Speaker 6: you what's going on here. There is a psychology that

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Speaker 6: and you certainly don't understand people like to support a winner.

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Speaker 6: This transcends politics. This is throughout history, the appearance of

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Speaker 6: success engenders success. This is why con men and scam

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Speaker 6: artists always wear big, bulky expensive watches and drive a

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Speaker 6: suits when they can't pay their bills, because if other

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Speaker 6: When people feel like there is success, they want to

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Speaker 6: be part of that success. This isn't hype. There is success.

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Speaker 6: The pole numbers really say that. And the reason we're

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Speaker 6: And part of what's kept our side staying home, and

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Speaker 6: this is by design, is the abiding belief that due

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Speaker 6: a deep psychological mind hump. I'll say it's not the

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Speaker 6: I don't care about this country. I don't care what happens.

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Speaker 6: I'm not part of it. I'm refusing to vote. You

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Speaker 6: can't make me care. It's the person that's been burned

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Speaker 6: in love so much that they simply won't date again.

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Speaker 6: You're not going to break my heart. That's what we

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Speaker 6: have a number of people in this country suffering from.

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Speaker 6: But you can convince them that if every one of

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Speaker 6: It's possible. We're doing it. We're showing our so folks

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Speaker 6: are very upset. They don't want you telling that the

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Speaker 6: poll numbers are strong in every single battleground state. Don't

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Speaker 6: do that, or the Democrats will cheap. Democrats are gonna

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Speaker 6: cheat no matter what. Don't do that, because then our

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Speaker 6: up more than believing we're gonna win. Let me give

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Speaker 6: you an example. You ever noticed how many New England

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Speaker 6: those Patriots fans? Some of them are like, hey, weren't

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Speaker 6: you born in Crosby. Hadn't you lived here in your

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 6: Love Patriots? Really? How far back Tony Easton? What Ron Meyer?

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Speaker 6: Who was your your Patriot hero? Craig James? Nobody likes

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Speaker 6: Craig James. I just really like him. No, you liked it.

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Speaker 6: They win the super Bowl. So when you wear the jersey,

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Speaker 6: who oh, he must be he's got a winner. People

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Speaker 6: like a winner. You saw Steelers jerseys here for a

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Speaker 6: people loved the Yankees. We're gonna win this thing. I

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Speaker 6: can't promise you we're gonna win Harris County, but I

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Speaker 6: can tell you we're in snipping distance. Well, Michael, there

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Speaker 6: is gonna cheat. Damn it, Shut that up.

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna cheat. Are you gonna try to win or not?

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Speaker 6: Because we can win this thing. We're gonna win Texas.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna win the White House.

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Speaker 1: At Joe, can here come the garbage man?

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Speaker 8: Yo?

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Speaker 4: You're that Joe?

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Speaker 1: Can here come the garbage man? Hey? Get out, Joe?

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Speaker 1: Can you come the garbage man yet? Garbage man?

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Speaker 5: And I have to begin by saying two hundred and

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Speaker 5: fifty million Americans are not garbage. This week, Kamala has

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Speaker 5: been comparing her political opponents to the most evil mass

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Speaker 5: murderers in history, and now, speaking on a call for

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Speaker 5: her campaign last night, Crooked Joe Biden finally.

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Speaker 9: Said what he and Kamala really think of our supporters.

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Speaker 9: He called them garbage. No way, My supporters are far

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Speaker 9: higher quality than Crooked Joe or Lion Kamala.

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Speaker 4: Higher quality, got Joe? Can you come the garbage man?

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Speaker 4: You you're at you? Can you come the garbage man?

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Speaker 1: You're after your cane, your your garbage man.

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Speaker 4: Kamala, Joe.

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Speaker 5: Call all of us and them, even them, garbage.

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Speaker 9: I call you the heart and soul of America. You

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Speaker 9: are the heart and soul.

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Speaker 5: You built our country.

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Speaker 9: You built it far more than they built it. I

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Speaker 9: can tell you that you built it.

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Speaker 7: After.

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Speaker 4: Can you come the garbage man?

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Speaker 1: I too?

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Speaker 4: Can here come the garbage man?

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Speaker 1: Get out too? Can here come the garbage man?

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Speaker 6: Here's how it happened. Trump advisor Jason Miller says, the vest,

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Speaker 6: the garbage truck, all of it. Trump's idea and thanks

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Speaker 6: to supporters in Wisconsin. They were able in a short

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Speaker 6: Trump in the garbage truck. Oh my goodness, Jason Miller

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Speaker 6: with the story.

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Speaker 4: Please whose idea was the best?

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Speaker 6: And the truck? And how'd you get it wrapped so fast?

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Speaker 6: Come on?

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Speaker 2: Tell us.

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Speaker 10: Well, can't give all the details, but of course it

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Speaker 10: was President Trump's ideas, and we have some great supporters

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Speaker 10: in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: That's all I can say right now.

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Speaker 10: But Laura, I think the panel is really on top

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Speaker 10: of this because it's not just what President Trump is

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Speaker 10: but it's who he's saying it to, which is all Americans.

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Speaker 10: That is such a contrast to Kamala Harris running this

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Speaker 10: next Tuesdays, Americans, the few undecideds that are left, or

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Speaker 10: also see that they've been personally offended by Kamala Harrison

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Speaker 10: Joe Biden calling them garbage, that they want to get

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Speaker 10: out there and vote for President Trump. Also the other thing, Laura,

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Speaker 10: you look at this schedule the next days. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: There are states that are still in play for.

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Speaker 10: President Trump where you don't see Kamala Harris on offense anywhere.

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Speaker 2: That is a major distinction.

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Speaker 10: Final thing I'll mention, Laura, also got to make sure

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Speaker 10: they give a lot of credit to Chairman Michael Wattley

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Speaker 10: They are going to make sure that this election is secure.

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Speaker 10: They've already filed some one hundred and thirty lawsuits, the

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Speaker 10: big huge wins that you talked about earlier with regard

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Speaker 10: to the Supreme Court, with regard to Virginia, also with

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Speaker 10: keeping the polls open in Bucks County.

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Speaker 2: We are not going to not gonna be caught asleep

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Speaker 2: this time.

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Speaker 10: They have over a quarter million volunteers ready to go

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Speaker 10: to keep our election secure.

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Speaker 2: A lot of credit goes to Mike Watley and Lara Trump.

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Speaker 10: Where President Trump has the right message, good political team,

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Speaker 10: and We're going to make sure that every single person

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Speaker 10: gets the opportunity to vote, but just once.

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Speaker 6: So what's amazing here.

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Speaker 2: Is that one major misstep.

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Speaker 6: Could have cost this election. Still could. But the later

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Speaker 6: it goes, the harder it is, the further you fall behind.

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Speaker 6: If you're the Harris campaign, the more dramatic the difference,

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Speaker 6: the marginal difference between you and Trump, has to be

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Speaker 6: in a shorter period of time to make up. When

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Speaker 6: instead of you now needing to win fifty two forty

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Speaker 1: What you have got?

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Speaker 8: My name is Mitch Michael Berry, Genius ibbage man.

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Speaker 4: You can I do it? Can you got the garbage man?

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Speaker 6: Well? Pastor Byron McWilliams is my kind of guy. A

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Speaker 8: Welcome, Hey, Michael Barry. How are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 6: I'm good so I know you're from Woodville. Let's talk

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Speaker 8: No, the first one in Sperger.

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Speaker 6: Okay, where that is?

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Speaker 8: Okay, all right, that's a good idea. I did not

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Speaker 6: No, I'm glad you clarified that, pastor, because I was

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Speaker 6: a little confused.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I want to do that's right, That's right. Graduated.

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Speaker 8: Man work my way through college at the University of

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Speaker 8: Houston and got a degree in accounting. I was in sales,

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Speaker 8: and then after that I went to work for a

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Speaker 8: large old company show oil company in Houston, and I

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Speaker 8: worked there for a number of years. Felt a call

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Speaker 8: to ministry. I was going to Champion Forest Baptist Church

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Speaker 8: in Houston at the time, and man felt a call

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Speaker 8: to ministry and it was undeniable, and so slowly began

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Speaker 8: to pursue that. As God led and one thing led

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Speaker 8: to another, I had to do all the education thing

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Speaker 8: and all that went with that. And then one thing

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Speaker 8: led to another, and we go to our first church

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Speaker 8: in April nineteen ninety seven, and that would be first

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Speaker 8: Baptist Church in Spurger, which nobody in West Texas, no

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Speaker 8: where Spurger is so and that one.

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Speaker 6: Year did you feel your call to the ministry?

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Speaker 8: Oh? I was thirty one years old, so that would

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Speaker 8: have been in nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Now did you not seminary from there or what

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Speaker 6: did you begin to do at that point?

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Speaker 8: I did?

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 8: I began at the Houston campus of Southwestern Baptist Theological

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Speaker 8: Seminary and uh and it did all of my Masters

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Speaker 8: of Divinity work there and uh, then from there after

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Speaker 8: I after I came to Odessa. Actually I had to

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Speaker 8: sit because of accreditation and whatnot. You have to wait

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Speaker 8: three years before you in our doctoral program, and I

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Speaker 8: did that and then started my doctoral work when I

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Speaker 8: got to Odessa and was able to knock that out.

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Speaker 6: So how long were you in Sperger?

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Speaker 8: Three years and nine months?

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Speaker 6: And then first Baptist Church of Buna. So you're getting

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Speaker 6: back closer to Woodville at that point.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and then it was actually closer to Woodville.

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Speaker 6: Oh is it really okay? But yeah, I've never been

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Speaker 6: to Sperger. I didn't know Elsberger. We played Sburger much

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Speaker 6: like what though. We whipped Burger in pretty much everything

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Speaker 6: we ever competed against it.

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Speaker 8: And then I had no doubt.

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Speaker 6: And then Buna. And how long were you at first

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Speaker 6: Baptist Church of Bunah.

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Speaker 8: Just a little over three years and wonderful ministry. Loved

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Speaker 8: those people over in Southeast Texas. Man, but God was

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Speaker 8: very clear when he called us out to West Texas.

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Speaker 8: And it was a major transition. I mean, moving from

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Speaker 8: Southeast Texas where all of my roots are there, all

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Speaker 8: my family are there and packing my wife and I

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Speaker 8: kind of felt like, man, we're headed to the mission field.

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Speaker 8: We're moving that far away. But man, a lot of great,

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Speaker 8: great people in West Texas.

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Speaker 6: And I got to tell you, I didn't have almost

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Speaker 6: two hours because it was when I got home last

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Speaker 6: night to listen to the whole sermon. But I wanted

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Speaker 6: to see what it was about, because this listener was

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Speaker 6: so keen of this is a guy doing what you

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Speaker 6: claim you want people to do. And I said, all right,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna fast forward on this. And where I landed.

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Speaker 6: It's almost as if God intended this where I landed.

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Speaker 6: You were you Within three seconds you mentioned Woodville and

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Speaker 6: you talked about your mother wearing gloves up to her

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Speaker 6: elbows and that that was church. And you start talking

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Speaker 6: about your church experience was very similar to mine at

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Speaker 6: Old First Orange in Orange off of Iten just before

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Speaker 6: you get to sixty two on your way to Louisiana.

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Speaker 6: If you headed eas it's still there, just off the highway,

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Speaker 6: and it Boy. Your storytelling, I was going to listen

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Speaker 6: to about three minutes and I ended up listening for

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Speaker 6: about twenty and your storytelling, it just felt very comforting

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Speaker 6: to me. You know, this was a similar shared experience,

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Speaker 6: and I loved the sense of conviction and fearlessness, fearlessness

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Speaker 6: with which you delivered God's word. And I thought, man,

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Speaker 6: that is a man.

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Speaker 2: That Wow, that is.

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Speaker 6: A servant's heart, that level of fearlessness really, and that's

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Speaker 6: when I reached out to you. How big is that church? First, Odessa,

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Speaker 6: it looked like a big church.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're we are a large church. We've got, you know,

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Speaker 8: a couple thousand members. But I mean, you know, of course,

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Speaker 8: you know how that works. Everybody doesn't come to church,

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Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. But it's still a good

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Speaker 8: sized church. I mean, you know, and uh uh oh,

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Speaker 8: we have a television ministry and everything like that in

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Speaker 8: the area that's been here for a long time. And

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Speaker 8: so God is blessed from that.

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Speaker 6: All right, hold with me for just a moment. I

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Speaker 6: want to talk about, Okay, why you do what you do?

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Speaker 6: Why why you particularly took that on. Because you can

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Speaker 6: preach health and wellness and prosperity, health and wealth every

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Speaker 6: Sunday and never upset anybody. But that's not your job

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Speaker 6: is to discomfort the comfortable and disrupt the bad habits.

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Speaker 6: We get into and the fact that you do that

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Speaker 6: is very interesting to me, Pastor Byron Williams of First Odessa,

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Speaker 6: but more importantly from Woodville, Texas, from Moment Make Normalcy,

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Speaker 6: you and I need to take a triple over the

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Speaker 6: Picket House that just needs to happ