WEBVTT - Charles Gregory Full Interview

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<v Speaker 1>nominated celebrity house stylist, makeup artists and entrepreneur with more

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<v Speaker 1>than thirty five years of experience in cosmic quality, cosmetology

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<v Speaker 1>and beauty instructures his business and clude the Charles Gregory

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<v Speaker 1>Blow Driving Beauty Bar located in midtown Atlanta, Georgia, who

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<v Speaker 1>is owner and operator. He's also the creator of the

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<v Speaker 1>renowned Weird Collection. Please welcome to money making Conversations. Charles Gregory.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing. I'm doing fantastic. I'm good, glad to

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<v Speaker 1>be here. Thanks for having me. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's consider ourselves friends. Because I developed this show

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<v Speaker 1>um kind of like you know, I stop managing Steve Harvey,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find my voice and I almost two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago I launched the show and it was just celebrity driven,

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<v Speaker 1>all my friends and the injury. And then one day

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<v Speaker 1>I told my staff, ago, what is this show? Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I doing this show? And now that's the show

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<v Speaker 1>about giving the voice to entrepreneurs that they can don't

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<v Speaker 1>know they can trust that when they come on my

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<v Speaker 1>show and now that it's a show about your brand

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<v Speaker 1>and also giving advice to people who are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>travel the path that you you you built. That's very

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<v Speaker 1>that's very good because people need that. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>need mentors and um you know, I'm into mentorship because

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm educated as well. M I was educated for

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<v Speaker 1>Soft Sheen Carson for like ten years. I was an

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<v Speaker 1>artistic director with them as well. So I worked in

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<v Speaker 1>research and development with MAZONI Soft she helped develop that product.

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<v Speaker 1>So and I went around the country teaching stylists. So

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<v Speaker 1>I did that early in the early part of my

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<v Speaker 1>career and teaching them different haircutting techniques and how to

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<v Speaker 1>use the product properly. For Soft Sheen AMAZONI and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I helped to create a lot of the ad ads

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<v Speaker 1>that you saw for MAZONI way Bo care Free Curls.

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<v Speaker 1>So I, you know, I was instrumental and uh you

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<v Speaker 1>know health and health and yeah, exactly help them to

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<v Speaker 1>uh to bring bring that into the forefront of the

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<v Speaker 1>African American heritage for for for our culture as far

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<v Speaker 1>as but the hair in in thirty five years, that

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<v Speaker 1>means you went through a lot of different you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the afro, the bridge, the soft sheen look that dominated.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's what style? Not the natural style that's the

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<v Speaker 1>dominant tone, even though you know people still getting perms

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<v Speaker 1>and getting their hair straight. What what what? What's happening

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<v Speaker 1>now there in the world of hair in the world here? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's the natural look. But you know, wigs

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<v Speaker 1>are the thing now. It's like, uh, what's that rapper

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<v Speaker 1>that I just got out of jail? Meek meek milk.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's kind of complained about the wigs because

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<v Speaker 1>the women are in all these lace weeks. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that they have wigs on because they look

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<v Speaker 1>so real, you know. So you know when they get

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<v Speaker 1>him in the in the room, in the bedroom and

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<v Speaker 1>they start wanting their hands in their hair, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they start feeling this glue and all this stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they think, oh my god, what is this.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's like a lot of women wearing

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<v Speaker 1>wigs because they're very convenient and they look good and

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<v Speaker 1>make them sexy. What what made them? What made the transition?

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<v Speaker 1>Because my mom wore with how much happened? I do?

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<v Speaker 1>What happened? It? Um? You know, women have been wearing

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<v Speaker 1>lace wigs since the thirties, and I've been actually doing

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<v Speaker 1>lace weeks in the movie industry since the nineties early nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>And it kind of caught on after I think Tyra

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<v Speaker 1>Banks and be honest, kind of let the cat out

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<v Speaker 1>of the bag because their their hairstyles put laces wigs

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<v Speaker 1>on them and they looked incredible, and women want to know,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, a woman hair to looked like that

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<v Speaker 1>because it was blowing in the wind. You could see

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<v Speaker 1>scalp and it looked like it was going out of

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<v Speaker 1>this scalp. So they wanted that, and so it created

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<v Speaker 1>such a demand. So that's what people want now. And

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<v Speaker 1>because when you put a lace wig on and you

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<v Speaker 1>blue it on properly, it looks like it's going out

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<v Speaker 1>of your scale. Okay, a male so helping, would you

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<v Speaker 1>say the word blew it on? Well, you have to.

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<v Speaker 1>What they do. It comes with a very fine lace

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<v Speaker 1>that you can see through, and they take one hair

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<v Speaker 1>at a time and they when they do what you

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<v Speaker 1>call ventilate. If we ventilate the hair through that lace

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<v Speaker 1>so that it matches your skin tone, they died and

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<v Speaker 1>they died to look at your skin toe. So when you.

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<v Speaker 1>When we glue it, it's a clear glue and it

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<v Speaker 1>dries and it clear. It's clear and it and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it looks like your skin. So when we when

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<v Speaker 1>we glue it to your like forehead, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's hair growing out of your skin. So it's it

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<v Speaker 1>just mimics your skin and hair. So it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>like like you might have gotten hair. Well you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have it. If you don't have edges, you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can just have edges. Now, my next courtion will be

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<v Speaker 1>can you wear that? Usually it was designed to wear

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<v Speaker 1>it like put it on, take it off in the

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<v Speaker 1>movie industry, but with the commercial success of these wigs,

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<v Speaker 1>they've gotten so many different glues that you can wear

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<v Speaker 1>it for a week to two weeks without taking it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Now because they've made they've made better glues. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>adhesives that that doesn't damage your's your skin and your

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<v Speaker 1>hair and it doesn't you know, they've they've made a

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<v Speaker 1>made better goose surgical adhesives that will hold for like

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks, and you just take it off, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go to the salon, have it removed, have your wig,

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<v Speaker 1>shampoo clean the wig, have it reglued and you set

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<v Speaker 1>for another two weeks. Well, tell us about your wig collection. Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know my weird collection. What I did, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's doing wigs, but you know, I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>wigs that were, um going to be custom, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to do wigs that are custom hairline because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the hairline on on the wigs that manufacturers make

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<v Speaker 1>they don't match our hairlines. They're sometimes they're like really

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<v Speaker 1>straight hairlines and they don't look real. Uh, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have widow speaks, they don't have the temple area is

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<v Speaker 1>not matching, and certain things that these little new wants.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes it not look real. And I I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like hair to look real. And so a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times what I do with some of my wigs is, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I will ventilate kinky hair around the edges. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I do is because you know, nobody's hair is bones straight,

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<v Speaker 1>especially I especial black women. You know, they got they

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<v Speaker 1>got edges and well it's baby hair or some of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of them got the edges. Now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these women got edges, they got they got

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<v Speaker 1>that who makes you dunct you stuff? You know it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, you gotta you gotta do with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have a lot of kinky textures. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these women got these kinky textures and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to put this European hairy and it doesn't match.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like using different textures. I like using the

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<v Speaker 1>kinky textures, like put kicky edges in. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>do is I put them in, but I used the

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<v Speaker 1>pressing home to press them so it makes it look real.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's that's that's where I do. That almost

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<v Speaker 1>feels custom. It is custom. So when you get those

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<v Speaker 1>kinky edges and you put that present home on, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's gonna look like, okay, it looks like your edges.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't gotta do the baby had okay, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look like your real edges. And if you started

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<v Speaker 1>the perspie them things gonna they're gonna start kicking up,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it really takes it to another level.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes it look more authentic. Now, that's that's a vision, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when when when you ever you start a vision,

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<v Speaker 1>people always question, why are you gonna do that? Just

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<v Speaker 1>what everybody else is doing? How did you walk through that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, it's just like I was doing. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing weeks in movies. Um, and I did um

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<v Speaker 1>this show with to Sheina Arnold and she was she

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing a wig and the wig was so straight.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, now I need this this this this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't like it's going out of her scalp. So I Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to skinky hair. And I ventilated some skinky

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<v Speaker 1>hair around her edges and then I started to pressing

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<v Speaker 1>and it made it look more real and I started

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<v Speaker 1>to use that. Uh, it was a show, Um, it

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<v Speaker 1>was my showtime. What was the show I did with her?

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<v Speaker 1>It was? What was that show? It was a Stars

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<v Speaker 1>Survivor's Remorse. I did that with your show Survive Morris.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that were and so she wore the wig

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, basically I wanted it to look like her hair.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was a fan of that show. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you saw it. I saw it. So what I did,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was always throwing, so I just wanted I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want it to look like a wig. And I

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<v Speaker 1>did that for Erica ashe as well. So she had

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<v Speaker 1>a wig on too. It was a blond wig. So

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<v Speaker 1>I did that for her too. So just so that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't want them to look like the

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<v Speaker 1>regular Thank you, thank you very much, because I especially Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought she just died her hair. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a wig. Thank you. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>also I did did a wig on epayth The Murkerson

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<v Speaker 1>when I did a Lack of One of Blues. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you remember that movie for HBO. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did that, and that's what movie I've nominated for

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<v Speaker 1>an M four. And I wanted the texture to look

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<v Speaker 1>like it was back in the day. I didn't wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to look like a wig. I wanted to look like natural,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, black woman's hair. So the texture that I

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<v Speaker 1>used for that wig, and then the hair that I used,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it looked like it was pressed hair. So

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<v Speaker 1>so we were talking about wigs. Okay, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a you have a location right that the wig is online? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have. I have a website. It's called the Renowned

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<v Speaker 1>Weird Collection dot com. That's that's perfect for you, now,

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<v Speaker 1>weird Collection. I would think of no other name now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you where I got that name from. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Vincent that's sitting over there. He started working

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<v Speaker 1>me back when the first got out of beauty school,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe twenty five years ago when I had my

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<v Speaker 1>son on Lindbergh. He was he was one of my

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<v Speaker 1>first workers. He had just got out of Beuty school.

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<v Speaker 1>So he worked with me. So I used to they

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<v Speaker 1>used come to work and used I was very adamant

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<v Speaker 1>about them coming on time. Where ties right? And so

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<v Speaker 1>he started calling me. He called me the now way

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<v Speaker 1>back then, and he just kept calling me to now

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<v Speaker 1>every time you see me, the renown, the renown, the renown.

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<v Speaker 1>So this year, I said, last year, I said, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call myself the renown because he calls me

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<v Speaker 1>that all the time. So I said, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and and then on my name because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I loves me and I love it. It's perfect because

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about it, you know why it fits because

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard it so long. It's part of your culture. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your mentality, you know what. That's what he's spoke

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<v Speaker 1>into my life. He spoke into my life. He kept

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<v Speaker 1>calling me the renown, the renown, the renown. So I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and receive that and either renow.

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<v Speaker 1>We know the interesting thing about I've always tell people

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have people around who champing you, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that's something I had to discover, because you you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have people to tell you how great you are. You

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<v Speaker 1>have two people tell you how special you are. That

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing is differently and that's all he was doing exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>He was speaking. You decided to listen. He was speaking

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<v Speaker 1>prophetic words in stop stop stop exactly. He was speaking

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<v Speaker 1>prophetically in my life and I didn't know it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, come on, That's why. That's why I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to speak prophetically over over our children, over everybody we meet.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to speak prophetic things over them. Speak And

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<v Speaker 1>it's important because one of the reason I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>because to me, you're a legend, okay, and sometimes sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you're doing things and the craft that's

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes, people just assume, Like I said, here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching your work on Survivors Remors, not knowing it

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking that and then now now not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate with it and then break down the skill set.

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<v Speaker 1>Just tie to it. You're not just throwing wigs on

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<v Speaker 1>ladies hair man's hair. Character. You're three characters and with

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<v Speaker 1>these these these things can create a different social change

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<v Speaker 1>for you. When we come back and want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>more about the location that you have in Atlanta. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the movie Vice. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about that as well. We'll be back in

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes. The movie vices right, White White did

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Perry He's playing Poland power. Let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>right back. I just Rashan McDonald. You're back on any

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<v Speaker 1>making conversation. Uh my gases. Charles Gregory, if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>the renown Charles Gregory, thirty or five years in the business,

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<v Speaker 1>launched the renowned Weird Collection with wik styles for women

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<v Speaker 1>and men. The wigs are top notch, made with the

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<v Speaker 1>best human hair and very fine lace which is used

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<v Speaker 1>for film and TV to be undetectable under the scrutiny

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<v Speaker 1>of today's high definition camera. The renowned Weird Collection is

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<v Speaker 1>available online and also at his beauty bar in Atlanta. Georgers,

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<v Speaker 1>please welcome back to the show, Charles Gregory. His beauty

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<v Speaker 1>bar is called Charles Gregory Blow Dry and Beauty Ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Thanks. We got talking about sit next to

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<v Speaker 1>your celebrity to start talking about these movies that you

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about before we left. Yeah, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this movie and the movie always talking about right

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<v Speaker 1>now as Vice. Uh, that's the movie that's up for

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<v Speaker 1>Oscars now, several oscars. It's been nominated for, including hair

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<v Speaker 1>and makeup, which I did work on. Um, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate enough to have my name called for the nomination,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did work on the team, work with the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I did Tyler Perry on that movie. He played Colin Powell,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you saw the movie, you would see that

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<v Speaker 1>he has hair like Colon Power, but you know Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>and hamming hair. So I helped design that wig that

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<v Speaker 1>he's wearing that making it like Colon Powers. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a full lace wig. It's it's lace all over. How

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<v Speaker 1>did how was you invited to the project and how

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<v Speaker 1>did you sit down? Did you talk to Tyler? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you go back and forth on what? Okay? Look, the

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<v Speaker 1>way I was invited to the project is that the

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<v Speaker 1>wig maker that I normally use in l a name

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<v Speaker 1>Bob crutch Mayer. He Um. He called me said Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a job here and I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>help me with it. He usually consults me in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of wigs because he you know, I'm a black

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<v Speaker 1>expert in during black wigs, and so I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he said with for Tyler Peer. I said, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked with Tyler all the time. I do my

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<v Speaker 1>DA all that, you know, So I've worked with Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, so I hadn't worked with him in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>So and then he put me onto Tyler's makeup artist

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<v Speaker 1>which does all the specially effects, which his name is

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<v Speaker 1>West Wesley, and he was gonna do special effects for

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<v Speaker 1>him to you know, make him look like Colon. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I got in touch with West, you know West

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<v Speaker 1>get sent me some pictures and stuff and we collaborated.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you told Tyler that I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the project. And I said, oh, yeah, Chas, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because he knows me, because you know, we've we've been

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<v Speaker 1>been together maybe fifteen years, and I've done all a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of his shows House of Pain. I've been department

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<v Speaker 1>here on a lot of his movies, his TV shows stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we maybe we thought there this is there.

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<v Speaker 1>So um when I did when I designed the wig,

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<v Speaker 1>I took the pictures and I saw the week so

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<v Speaker 1>I had Bob to make the wig with white hair.

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<v Speaker 1>So he made it poor white because it was like

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<v Speaker 1>salt and pepper. So I wanted to control. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to control the amount of salt and pepper that I got,

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of having him do gray and black hair,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted him to do white hair so that I

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<v Speaker 1>could artistically color it to make it look like I wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>like to match Colon power. So I that's how how

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<v Speaker 1>I came up with the salt and pepper. So I

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<v Speaker 1>colored the wig so that it's strategically looked just like

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<v Speaker 1>Colon's hair as far as where he grayed and where

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<v Speaker 1>he was black and when he wasn't. So you're an artist,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an artist. I'm an artist. Yeah, And actually I

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<v Speaker 1>studied art as it relates to hair, hairstunding, and structure,

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<v Speaker 1>so I do teach. I have a class that I

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<v Speaker 1>teach on on hair strung hair, hair design as it

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<v Speaker 1>relates to art, and teach your art principles on how

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<v Speaker 1>to do hair design as it relates to different art

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<v Speaker 1>principles like repetition, alternation, um a, progression, all these things

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<v Speaker 1>that you need to be an artist, and I teach

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<v Speaker 1>you how to how to take the medium of hair

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<v Speaker 1>and create artistically beautiful hair designs. So when you when

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<v Speaker 1>I look at you and I look at that, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a certain I'm talking to a professor, Okay, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to an individual that just competantly talks about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when one comes into your beauty ball, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the expectation of a client. The expectation is just to

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<v Speaker 1>leave more fabulous than you came in, and to leave

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<v Speaker 1>with a smile on your face, and just to leave

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<v Speaker 1>feeling uh motivated, and just to feel uplifted. Because when

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<v Speaker 1>when women are beautiful, they feel they have self confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>I give them self confidence in themself and I make

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<v Speaker 1>them feel better. And that's that's that's that's, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>part I love about my job is making you looking

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<v Speaker 1>at mirror and I want to see a big smile

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<v Speaker 1>on your face. And when you walk to the redgist,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see a bigger smile when I give

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<v Speaker 1>you my pride, okay, and you'd be having to bay okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna be happy because what I've given you.

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<v Speaker 1>So that the un in Atlanta, why why did you

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<v Speaker 1>choose that location? And as a as a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had all this just experience, you had this reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you trust yourself enough to be an entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 1>and a brick and mortar. Well, you know what, my

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<v Speaker 1>mother owned a beauty salon in Charlotte, and I came

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<v Speaker 1>up in the salon, you know, when I was as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I can remember, She's always had a salon

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I just had the entrepreneur spirit through

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<v Speaker 1>uh heredity. Right. So I've always been I've always sold something.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as a child. I grew up selling see selling

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<v Speaker 1>candy selling uh Mary Kay. As a teenagers selling, I

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<v Speaker 1>even so try to sell wigs. I worked in the

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<v Speaker 1>wig shop when I was when I was a teenager,

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen, I would I would cut afros in the

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<v Speaker 1>team in a wig shop. Just I worked in his

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<v Speaker 1>Korean wickshop downtown Charlotte. I would cut afros. This lead.

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<v Speaker 1>I would go by there every day and watch this

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<v Speaker 1>koreer and cut these afros. And she she got time.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, let me show you how to cut, to cut,

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<v Speaker 1>and she gave me a job. And then then she

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<v Speaker 1>showed me how to do shin yawns and taught me

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<v Speaker 1>how to do stuff before I even got out of

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<v Speaker 1>high school. So it's just been, uh, it's just been

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<v Speaker 1>in me to do that. When did you start trusting yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the reason I say that is that I remember

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<v Speaker 1>that I can't cut anybody's hair. That's I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a nerve racking experience. You know, people think that's simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's gonna sit in your chair and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>a razor and you have to cut their hair. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you start trusting yours? You know, I always believe

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<v Speaker 1>I could do it, and I always tried to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I never trusted myself until I went to beauty

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<v Speaker 1>school and really got all of the fundamentals. And then

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<v Speaker 1>once I got that, it's like I took off, I

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<v Speaker 1>like perfected everything I was. I was already doing hair

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<v Speaker 1>and straightening hair at home and doing this. But once

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<v Speaker 1>I learned how to do the cutting and the styling

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<v Speaker 1>and the blow drying and the and the chemical stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I learned that, you know, the sky was the limit.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do the mistakes that the young stylers do

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<v Speaker 1>or people get in the business. What are the mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>the mistakes they do is they stop educating themselves. They

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<v Speaker 1>stopped learning, They stopped They think once they get out

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<v Speaker 1>of beauty school they know it all. They think they

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<v Speaker 1>stopped learning, and what happens is they get left behind.

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<v Speaker 1>They left behind. In technology, things are different now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people I used to use the oven and stuff that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the ovens is past, say now you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>use the ceramic. Guys, you know, you gotta change with

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<v Speaker 1>the times. If you don't change, you're gonna be behind.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you gotta stay educated, You gotta keep going

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<v Speaker 1>to class. You gotta remember that there's always somebody out there.

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<v Speaker 1>They can do stuff better than you. It's always somebody

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<v Speaker 1>you can learn from, learn from from younger people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you know it all. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>learned a lot on YouTube, YouTube university a lot. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>When I don't know something, streak to YouTube, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I see what's happening. And you have to

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<v Speaker 1>praise young young stylus because they are the future. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's some bad styles coming up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll tell you what they They work in circles

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<v Speaker 1>around these older hair styles. If you ain't keeping up

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<v Speaker 1>these young young styles, you're gonna be left absolutely. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying is that you gotta keep learning.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm talking to a legend the right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep throwing it out and not joking. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the truth, exactly, that's the truth. And because of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you're telling me, Sean, I'm still I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still crafting, I'm still out there. You're not gonna wake

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<v Speaker 1>up and see me behind. I graduated musical nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still to me, I'm relevant in the hair in

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<v Speaker 1>this Yes you are. You know I'm not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same most styles idea in the nineties and

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<v Speaker 1>then in two thousand, I'm doing what's current in present.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got I got young girls coming to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I got I ain't got all these old women's coming

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<v Speaker 1>half the whole way I had. They're gone. They're gone,

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<v Speaker 1>or they got nurses and all this stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the women I started with, you know, So I got

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta I'm gonna have young clients. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have still have a lot of my old clients, they're

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<v Speaker 1>still with me. But I have a lot of young

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<v Speaker 1>girls coming in college. That's the Keyenager, that's the key,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because they're coming to me. That's the key.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta keep exactly younger, keep your audience ten years exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>bring another set of tea exactly, the mamos and the

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and the grandkids. That's that's your career. When I

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<v Speaker 1>said thirty five years exactly, And that's that's important. And

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<v Speaker 1>some people are working around me. To have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of lot of young people working with me. I trained

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<v Speaker 1>them and I've watched them and they trained me. I

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<v Speaker 1>learned from them, they learned from me. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you that it's important that you say that publicly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're willing the lesson. Oh yeah, you hit you too,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're willing to share. And you wouldn't understand that

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<v Speaker 1>your skill said it's a blessing that you mentor talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the mentoring part, well, you know what. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>more you give, the more you get back. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have to give. You have to give back because that's

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<v Speaker 1>a part of who you are. And you have to

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<v Speaker 1>leave a legacy. You know what's your legacy. My legacy

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<v Speaker 1>is to make I want every style is when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you get into this business, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best that you can be. When you come

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<v Speaker 1>around me and you're in my salon and you work

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<v Speaker 1>with me, I'm gonna badge you. You you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the best of me. You're gonna either hate me, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna love me, because I'm gonna badger you. Make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you get it. You don't get it, then you're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna you're gonna be. You're gonna either love me

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<v Speaker 1>or repel me, because I'm gonna make sure you get

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<v Speaker 1>it right. You be successful. And that's that's important because

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact that when I look at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my life, and I look at people feel I'm successful.

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<v Speaker 1>It really goes back to who you're helping. It really

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to what's your legacy, because what you're remembered

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<v Speaker 1>by because of the fact that in the end, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you taking it to your raide exactly? So? How

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<v Speaker 1>how how is the transition to technology playing such a

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<v Speaker 1>major role in what you're doing now? I know much

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<v Speaker 1>of YouTube played a great role. You know. I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you I was one of the first salons in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>to be computerized. I was computerized back in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a database, I had I had I had

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<v Speaker 1>a Mac back in the nineties. And they can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you I had receptions like in the nineties, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a receptance with a computer. Most black people and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a computer. And I have kept up with technology.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned how to program a MS DOS. I taught

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<v Speaker 1>myself how to do a computers. I w I can,

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<v Speaker 1>I can get a book and I can teach myself anything.

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<v Speaker 1>how to I've recorded a CD. I taught myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>set up a studio and talked myself MIDI. I taught

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<v Speaker 1>myself just by reading. I caught myself how to program

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<v Speaker 1>ms DOS. I do my own websites. I do my

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<v Speaker 1>own s c O. Congratulations because I once I read,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand I can do it. You know, I think

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