Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back for real. We're black, of
Speaker 1: course we're brown. Always ambition and shine and missing ambition, ambition.
Speaker 1: Maybe I missed you, girl, I missed you too.
Speaker 2: Absence makes the heart grow fonder. I missed that little jingle.
Speaker 2: I thought we took a little break.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was nice to take a break. I know
Speaker 1: we weren't like we're like you guys probably didn't notice
Speaker 1: because we did a lot of like taping and pre
Speaker 1: taping so that way, you know, you guys still got
Speaker 1: your show. But me and Mandy, what has it been
Speaker 1: like two three weeks?
Speaker 2: It's been about three weeks. Yeah, since we've actually been
Speaker 2: on the air together. But a lot of life has
Speaker 2: happened in between. Not amazing things have happened for me,
Speaker 2: but I'm happy to be standing here. I got really
Speaker 2: super sick. I didn't even get my damn vacation. But
Speaker 2: I'm going to get it. I'm in between vacation blessings
Speaker 2: right now. That's what I'm going to call it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna get it. But no, I feel at
Speaker 2: least I got at least I had that vacation time.
Speaker 2: It was almost like I prepped I prepped to be gone.
Speaker 2: So when I was sick, I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: didn't have the additional stress of like trying to you know,
Speaker 2: like turn my entire schedule around. So yeah, we had
Speaker 2: a staycation, but go ahead tell me about Hawaii.
Speaker 1: No, but I'm glad you did, because I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's part of the blessings of being able to like,
Speaker 1: you know, work for yourself and run your own company.
Speaker 1: Because you just had to say, so, Mandy, we need
Speaker 1: some time, and Mandy was like, oh, their, you got it.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, you know, it wasn't even when I
Speaker 2: was sick that was That was the challenging part, because
Speaker 2: I do feel like, at least I've been fortunate enough
Speaker 2: to work for places where when you say that you're sick,
Speaker 2: you know, they take your word for it and people
Speaker 2: kind of rally around you. But what I really did
Speaker 2: not expect was I was sick for about ten ten too.
Speaker 2: I was almost sick for two weeks straight, really really ill,
Speaker 2: and I couldn't like play with the baby. And then
Speaker 2: I fell into a like a depression. I've never I
Speaker 2: haven't been sick in so long, but I had. What
Speaker 2: was more difficult for me was when I was better,
Speaker 2: like when I had my voice back and I didn't
Speaker 2: have like migraines all day. I fell into this very
Speaker 2: unexpected depression and I felt it was it was harder
Speaker 2: to me to be in that state than to be
Speaker 2: actually sick with like symptoms because I still felt like
Speaker 2: I wanted to sleep all day and I and I
Speaker 2: haven't had an episode like that since, you know, since
Speaker 2: I was like postpartum and I had you know, I
Speaker 2: struggled with depression then, but it it knocked me on
Speaker 2: my ass, and it was really hard because I wanted
Speaker 2: to be back and everyone was like, you're back, you know, yay,
Speaker 2: and I was not back. I was not back. So
Speaker 2: I found myself literally I turned on my vacation response
Speaker 2: under just because I couldn't. I just couldn't deal. I couldn't,
Speaker 2: And I'm glad in retrospect, I realized I was. I
Speaker 2: was pulling some levers that were actually really good coping mechanisms,
Speaker 2: like vacation responder. I told my family, Hey, I'm fine,
Speaker 2: but I just can't talk. So I, you know, I
Speaker 2: put up some boundaries. I leaned into it, you know,
Speaker 2: I did all whatever I could within a healthy range,
Speaker 2: just to just so I like slept, you know, Okay,
Speaker 2: you want to sleep, don't question why, don't should have
Speaker 2: would have kuda yourself out of this state? Just sleep,
Speaker 2: you know. So it was difficult, but thank goodness, I
Speaker 2: came out of it because I hate it so much.
Speaker 2: And my heart goes out to everyone dealing with that
Speaker 2: because it doesn't feel like something that you can just
Speaker 2: call out sick for, but I do think it is.
Speaker 2: It should be anyway.
Speaker 1: No, you're right, and honestly, that's what Remember when I
Speaker 1: took the six weeks. That's what's happening, you know, That's
Speaker 1: what I was like. I took that six weeks away.
Speaker 1: You know. We did some pre taping the part, not
Speaker 1: not really you guys had like the co hosts or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's because I was struggling and drowning and it was
Speaker 1: like if I don't do something, it's not going to
Speaker 1: get better. And so it's not easy sometimes to force
Speaker 1: yourself to take time away because it's not like visibly
Speaker 1: it's like, well, nothing's wrong. You're like you're not coughing,
Speaker 1: you're not sniffling. You're like, yeah, but I'm still not well?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't realize it was that.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I knew you were going through like
Speaker 2: a ton of like challenges at the time, but you're right.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's six weeks. It was what it was.
Speaker 2: And I mean I think you positioned at the time
Speaker 2: as like, I'm just going to take a breather and
Speaker 2: get back to my business. But you know, I do
Speaker 2: think it's it's important to talk about taking those breaks
Speaker 2: for literally just a mental health break. Yes, And that's
Speaker 2: I've never been more grateful to own my schedule than
Speaker 2: when I had I had no one to explain it to.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would have had to take three weeks
Speaker 2: off of work, two weeks to be physically and then
Speaker 2: I was in that deep funk for like a week
Speaker 2: a week and a half after that. Imagine like that's
Speaker 2: for some people, They only get like twelve days a
Speaker 2: year of sick leave, you know, and you're lucky if
Speaker 2: it's paid sick leave at that. AnyWho, I'm just so
Speaker 2: glad to be out of it. And when I tell you,
Speaker 2: I came out of that fog a few days before Halloween,
Speaker 2: I got it together.
Speaker 1: Baby boy.
Speaker 2: He had a handmade construction truck costume that he did.
Speaker 1: Not wear, but I made it.
Speaker 2: He didn't wear it. He was afraid of it. He
Speaker 2: wanted to do everything. He wanted to sit on it,
Speaker 2: he wanted to dance on it. He wanted to push
Speaker 2: it around the house and dig things. But he did
Speaker 2: not want to wear I'm not putting that out like
Speaker 2: I'll wear the cute boots, though he was definitely under
Speaker 2: the construction boots. He felt so cool. And it was
Speaker 2: in my in my neighbors. When I tell you the village,
Speaker 2: I have surrounded myself with these random, strange who I
Speaker 2: you know, I just moved into this neighborhood four years ago,
Speaker 2: and I've made like I've just made friends with some
Speaker 2: of my neighbors, really good friends with so many neighbors.
Speaker 2: And we hosted a block party, which I decided to
Speaker 2: do before I got sick and depressed and I thought
Speaker 2: I was going to I mean, I had texted them.
Speaker 2: I was like, y'all, I just can't do it. I
Speaker 2: had to be honest. I cookies. Cookies felt like the
Speaker 2: dumbest thing in the world to me a week ago,
Speaker 2: you know, and like bounce houses and stuff. But when
Speaker 2: I got out of the fog, they they all they
Speaker 2: just handled it while I was in my funk, you know,
Speaker 2: like they we got the permitted proofs, we closed the
Speaker 2: street down.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Got the bounce house, you know, the dad's made hot
Speaker 2: dogs and burgers and you know, so huge shout out
Speaker 2: to my to my neighborhood village here because it was
Speaker 2: so cool for the kids yesterday. And I'm feeling much
Speaker 2: better now. I'm glad to be back. It feels good
Speaker 2: to be back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy for you to be back. And I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you know that one that you know you
Speaker 1: can always take time. You know, our listeners know, you
Speaker 1: know we've been. We've been, we've been riding, which y'all
Speaker 1: for six years. You could take a little gab off,
Speaker 1: you know, and me too like that. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: like you know that you won that you realize. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's some of the tools. Because that's what I was
Speaker 1: doing with my six weeks. I said, Okay, if I
Speaker 1: took a week a quarter, I wouldn't be so backed
Speaker 1: up like this, Tiffany. So that's what I've been doing.
Speaker 1: Like every quarter I have a week walked off. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I have to go somewhere. It just means
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything. I know that and so so
Speaker 1: that way it gives me chance to reset every quarter.
Speaker 1: So that's that's how I offset. And but yeah, so
Speaker 1: speaking of my week off, I I went to Hope, Baii.
Speaker 1: Oh mg, I'd never been to Hawaii before. Which part
Speaker 1: of Hawaii did you go to? Well? I did two islands.
Speaker 1: I did Awahu. So I stayed in like Quakiki, which
Speaker 1: is very Cosmopolitans with the splash of island, right, So,
Speaker 1: a big splash of island. So think downtown Chicago for
Speaker 1: those of you a familiar Downtown Chicago's like super fancy,
Speaker 1: has like all like the pride of Gucci or maz whatever. Right,
Speaker 1: So downtown Chicago is like a much cleaner New.
Speaker 2: York Magnificent Mile.
Speaker 1: Is that that like Magna Street with all Yeah, so
Speaker 1: think about that. It was that all the Gucci prauah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But then it was like, oh but
Speaker 1: look at that sunset. Oh my god. Like literally it's
Speaker 1: like there's a med store and then there's the beach
Speaker 1: right next to it, you know. So Waikiki was very
Speaker 1: much that, although we did go snorkeling and we did
Speaker 1: like with Waikiki outside this if you're too some Hawaii tips,
Speaker 1: definitely rent a car because it's really not because the
Speaker 1: things you're wanting to do are going to be far away,
Speaker 1: you know, So like if you stay in like Waikiki,
Speaker 1: certainly like where we stayed, it's you know, it's really
Speaker 1: like really nice downtown and beach and things like that.
Speaker 1: But we also wanted to go snorkeling, and we also
Speaker 1: want to do a little hiking, so we were able
Speaker 1: to drive to do those things. So you definitely want
Speaker 1: to rent your car ahead of time. We stayed at
Speaker 1: the Prince Hotel, which is really nice. It's probably like
Speaker 1: one of the highest rates. I always use trip Advisor
Speaker 1: to see of the highest rates rated hotels in the resort.
Speaker 2: Do the whole all inclusive thing just I don't know why.
Speaker 1: He has that, But it wasn't over it was I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was. There were so many hotels
Speaker 1: to choose from, but the Prince was clean. It was
Speaker 1: like nice. You know. It's not the highest of the tears.
Speaker 1: But some of the hotels from just reading some of
Speaker 1: the recent reviews that some of them were like super
Speaker 1: fancy at one point and the kind of kind of
Speaker 1: fell into like disrepair. So but that's not so with
Speaker 1: the Prince. We loved it. Stayed there for four nights
Speaker 1: and then we went to Maui for three nights, and
Speaker 1: MAOIs the opposite of raiki Ki, right, So Maori is
Speaker 1: like just like it's more nature and more like you know,
Speaker 1: you don't really get like the downtown esque, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's it was just so beautiful. Both of them
Speaker 1: were really beautiful, and in Maui because Maui is so expensive,
Speaker 1: like like so just to be candid, like Prince, maybe
Speaker 1: our hotel was two hundred bucks a night, which is
Speaker 1: what you expect for like a nice hotel in a city.
Speaker 2: Pretty good. Actually, yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was like maybe, like so so I
Speaker 1: want my sister and now with my frand Cabrow. So he
Speaker 1: had his own room, my sister and I had her room. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's like maybe two hundred two twenty. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: Maui two hundred, what girl, you can rend this cardboard
Speaker 1: box for two hundred I'm talking about like a Howard
Speaker 1: Inn in Maui's like six hundred bucks a night.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's what I would expect it must be like,
Speaker 2: because people probably go for this, you know.
Speaker 1: The year it is it is. I guess it's like
Speaker 1: the one of the frows. It was so expensive. So
Speaker 1: I was like, what are we gonna do? Because one
Speaker 1: of my angelie actually told me that, my financial planner,
Speaker 1: she actually went to Maui too, around the same time
Speaker 1: we were there, and she told me that she spent
Speaker 1: six hundred bucks a night from the Fairmont and I
Speaker 1: was like, really, how'd you get that? She said, Girl,
Speaker 1: we booked a full year in advance, twelve whole months
Speaker 1: in advance. She said, cause normally the Fairmont it's like
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars a night. And You're like, what, yes,
Speaker 1: like the penny No, for a regular, regular hotel, you're
Speaker 1: looking at a thousand dollars a night. It is considered
Speaker 1: not so bad. And I was like, ain't no way.
Speaker 1: I said, what we gonna do? Because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to go to Maui. My friend Cabroul had a great idea.
Speaker 1: He was a girl Airbnb, so we found an Airbnb
Speaker 1: that was six hundred bucks a night. So it ended
Speaker 1: up still being two hundred apiece because we split it
Speaker 1: three ways. Oh yes, yeah, so it was like but
Speaker 1: it was like it was really nice. It was a villa,
Speaker 1: and it was a villa like a complex with like
Speaker 1: it was a villa complex. It was like a gated
Speaker 1: community where like like really well appointed villas that were
Speaker 1: literally right on the water. So it was such a
Speaker 1: great like juxtaposition too. We were staying in the city
Speaker 1: in a nice hotel and now we're staying in this villa,
Speaker 1: so it felt very villa, but the price was the
Speaker 1: same as like the city. So that was like that.
Speaker 1: That's a little hack for Hawaii is that if you're
Speaker 1: staying on one of the islands that tends to be
Speaker 1: a more premier, exclusive island to look for an airbnb. Well,
Speaker 1: it will make sense if you're traveling with other people,
Speaker 1: it's not it's just gonna be priced girl.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but it.
Speaker 2: Was like long too. That's a whole yng week gone
Speaker 2: for a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I will say this, though I never fly,
Speaker 1: I've never paid for first class. I've only ever been
Speaker 1: bumped up because I want you know.
Speaker 2: No meaning that like I've only people no one does.
Speaker 2: If you're doing it right, you're not paying for first class, Yes.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I didn't want to go ten
Speaker 1: hours in this upright seat. And I was like, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: this is your birthday trip. Untilie always tells me I
Speaker 1: don't spend any money, and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pay for first curse. I know, so I paid for
Speaker 1: Did you get a pod? Yes? It was so nice.
Speaker 1: I said, is this how the other half lives? Angelie
Speaker 1: would tell me you are the other half? Tipan, you
Speaker 1: just refuse taking.
Speaker 2: That opening scene of crazy rich Asians when they're on
Speaker 2: the flight. Have you ever seen that movie when they're
Speaker 2: on the Singapore It is I'm like, book me that airline.
Speaker 2: I just want to be I just want to be
Speaker 2: financially secure enough to just have that be a girl.
Speaker 1: Well, those types of flights, like say, if you're going
Speaker 1: to do first class to China, I heard it's like
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars. I'm like, Hawaii was not cheap. I
Speaker 1: want to say that it was a little under two
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for you know, round trip, which is not bad.
Speaker 1: You know for first class ten hours there are ten
Speaker 1: hours back. But it was worth it because it was
Speaker 1: just such a long flight and it was really comfortable.
Speaker 1: So but I had never yet all.
Speaker 2: Your friends also get did your sister get first class?
Speaker 1: She did? And then but my friend Camera, he always
Speaker 1: fights to hors class. He was like, girl, we don't
Speaker 1: do nothing else. So like you know, like that's that's
Speaker 1: his life. You got just well, i'll see you're coach
Speaker 1: over here. So because usually, like I said, like usually
Speaker 1: like I you know, I get bumped up just because
Speaker 1: I travel enough that like I'm on the list, and
Speaker 1: so like maybe he's done first class maybe like four
Speaker 1: times in my life, and it's because, like I said,
Speaker 1: I've just gotten bumped or I'll use points to like
Speaker 1: bump me up. But yeah, I was like you know what, Tiffany, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So it was honestly, it was such a great trip.
Speaker 1: I didn't do any work. Everything Hawaii. We did all
Speaker 1: the things we wanted to do. If you ever want
Speaker 1: to go to Hawaii and do a luau, you need
Speaker 1: to book at least like two or three weeks before
Speaker 1: you go because they go really fast. Luau's are really
Speaker 1: popular and it's it's an experience that everyone should have,
Speaker 1: so it's very cultural. Did you do one? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did one, thankfully. I So my sister's birthday was on
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth of October, and we surprised her. I
Speaker 1: told her that we couldn't get a lout because they're
Speaker 1: all booked. But then we surprised, were like, psych, We're
Speaker 1: going to a louo au tonight. So she was super excited.
Speaker 1: But it was just like, honestly, it was.
Speaker 2: Those are always the meanest way to surprise people, make
Speaker 2: them really upset, you sake.
Speaker 1: Just kidding, but I was saying, it was just such
Speaker 1: a great time because it was nice to spend time
Speaker 1: with my sister, my friend, which.
Speaker 2: Sister Tracy, Tracy of Tracy p r Yes, Tracy.
Speaker 1: Feeling for a poblicist. I'm only proud of Tracy. So
Speaker 1: we should talk about some business stuff but like later,
Speaker 1: but like how she's like that's a pivoting and pivoting.
Speaker 1: I'm amazed by her too.
Speaker 2: I mean, because I feel like over the years you've
Speaker 2: mentioned Tracy here and there, and now I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: she's really doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's only been a year in amazing slaying. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so like I said, it was just great and not
Speaker 1: like I said, every every quarter, I'll be I'll be
Speaker 1: not working for a week and whether that's a week
Speaker 1: traveling or whether that's just a week at home, then
Speaker 1: so be it. But it was just a really good,
Speaker 1: a really good time. And I just like I'm feeling like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Mandy, I'm like just feeling like in
Speaker 1: such like a better space and place that not that
Speaker 1: life has gotten easier. I've just gotten better at managing,
Speaker 1: Like I'm putting those things in. Like you said, you
Speaker 1: said something really smart, Like when you said that, like, oh,
Speaker 1: there are the levers that I pulled that it was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what okay, like you know, my vacation, like
Speaker 1: you know, responder, you know, texting my family to let
Speaker 1: them know, letting you know, Like I'm learning to pull
Speaker 1: those levers so as things, you know, because things are
Speaker 1: just gonna get busier. But it doesn't mean that I
Speaker 1: have to, Like I'm learning one how to recognize the
Speaker 1: sign like oh, oh, Tiffany, we're starting to get into
Speaker 1: that space of overwhelm, like you need to. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: much better having the hard conversations I've been having a
Speaker 1: lot lately. And I remember being like, I think I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say it, and I was like, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: I know it's hard. Remember what doctor Green taught you
Speaker 1: that your reaction that you're having is really the reaction
Speaker 1: of ten year old Tiffany being afraid, not forty two
Speaker 1: year old Tiffany. Whatever that consequence was gonna be when
Speaker 1: you're ten is not the same as when you're forty two.
Speaker 1: Sure is it uncomfortable, but it's not the same consequence.
Speaker 1: Because you're an adult, you have full agency. And so
Speaker 1: I'm getting so much better. So as a result, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling the anxiety like it's shortening my anxiety time, which
Speaker 1: has been so amazing that I'm like, it's hard. We
Speaker 1: fixed it. Oh it's hard. You said the thing, so
Speaker 1: it's not perfect, but we've said it, and we've shaved
Speaker 1: off a significant component of the anxiety. I'm just feeling
Speaker 1: like so much better. Like I said, life has definitely
Speaker 1: gotten harder, but I feel more equipped to manage, like
Speaker 1: what comes my way.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy to hear that. I'm so happy to
Speaker 2: hear it. And I feel like anxiety and what I've
Speaker 2: made peace with with my anxiety and depression is that
Speaker 2: I live with it, like I almost feel like and
Speaker 2: this goes for anything like self doubt, negative expect, like fear,
Speaker 2: all those things. I just imagine that it's like a
Speaker 2: little furry like kind of cute but like an ugly
Speaker 2: dog that you love, you know, And it's just kind
Speaker 2: of like sitting on my desk or wherever I am
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, Hi, how are you? Oh you again?
Speaker 2: You're just gonna sit there. I know how to handle you.
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna be there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it's almost like it's becoming mature enough to recognize
Speaker 2: that there's always going to be stress, but not being
Speaker 2: so reactive to it instead of just reacting to those
Speaker 2: things that stress you were those moments when you're anxious.
Speaker 2: It's like putting systems in place and knowing what those
Speaker 2: lovers are exactly. And it's a good time to talk
Speaker 2: about it too, because it's November first and seasonal, like
Speaker 2: with the season's changing, especially if you're in a part
Speaker 2: of the country like we are where it gets dark,
Speaker 2: so early seasonal depression is for real, for real. So
Speaker 2: if everyone's listening, like, just go easy on yourself. I
Speaker 2: did not get to go on my vacation, but I
Speaker 2: am doing I'm going to book a facial and a massage.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do some self care, like, you know,
Speaker 2: even if I don't feel like i'm I need it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, I'm not overwhelmed right now.
Speaker 2: It's a good time for us to have this conversation.
Speaker 1: It feels good.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't cry because I felt like I
Speaker 2: was gonna cry.
Speaker 1: Oh No, it's hard, it's yeah, And we're like sometimes
Speaker 1: we're just so hard on ourselves, like I'm sorry, why
Speaker 1: can't you fly again? It's like, I mean, what the heck?
Speaker 1: You know, we're so hard on ourselves. And it's just like, girl,
Speaker 1: you literally in a year, you've got a baby, a husband,
Speaker 1: you have a brand new business.
Speaker 2: Like do you have to say now you're gonna make
Speaker 2: me cry?
Speaker 1: Don't know, but I'm just saying that, like it, it has
Speaker 1: been a lot. It's been a lot. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's like, well, what more do you do we want?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, quarantine, pandemic. Everyone's experiencing trauma, you know.
Speaker 1: Like doctor Green told me that she asked me that
Speaker 1: I know what trauma was, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, girl, I mean, I know, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know the words. And she's like, well, trauma is twofold.
Speaker 1: It's when something has happened that ought not to have happened.
Speaker 1: So let's just say you were used as a child
Speaker 1: that should not have happened. Or when something should have
Speaker 1: happened but did not, let's just say that you were
Speaker 1: supposed to be fed and you know you were starved.
Speaker 1: You know. So we are all experiencing trauma. Things that
Speaker 1: happened that ought not to have happened, or things that
Speaker 1: ought to have happened did not, and so none of
Speaker 1: us have If you are still here and you could
Speaker 1: hear our voice, you live to a quarantine, pandemic and
Speaker 1: all the other things combined, we're all experiencing some form
Speaker 1: of trauma. Now for some people it's hit harder than others,
Speaker 1: but it's a lot. And giving yourself the grace and
Speaker 1: the space to like navigate through, that's just that's all
Speaker 1: we can do, and hopefully that you're consciously navigating through,
Speaker 1: because I've definitely been someone who has like not I
Speaker 1: know it's there, but I haven't done anything about it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't want to live like
Speaker 1: that anymore. I want to actively work on on like
Speaker 1: what does better look like? For me? What does happier
Speaker 1: look like? For me? What does more alignment look like
Speaker 1: for me? You know, it's that communication like you know,
Speaker 1: like Mandy, I'm so sorry man, you teckt me that
Speaker 1: message like can we tape later? I did not even see.
Speaker 1: I was like of course, and I did not press
Speaker 1: answer was like, oh that's okay.
Speaker 2: Sometimes technology is not on our side. It does not
Speaker 2: want us to be great.
Speaker 1: You know. But that's the kind of confience. That's the
Speaker 1: kind of communication you have, Like hey, if you would
Speaker 1: have said, hey, tip, can we tape on Wednesday? Like,
Speaker 1: for example, Wednesdays, as y'all know, are my day's light
Speaker 1: and Fridays are my days off. But we've done some
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday tapings because it's like, well, what do
Speaker 1: you need? Like how can I let in your load?
Speaker 1: You know, like so we're like I think that's really
Speaker 1: one of the keys is too, is that like having
Speaker 1: conversations with the people that are affected, and you know,
Speaker 1: because people are more than willing to accommodate you in
Speaker 1: that moment in time, like you know, if it's if
Speaker 1: it's possible, if I can't do it. Now. I can
Speaker 1: do this. I can give you my Wednesday, I can
Speaker 1: give you my Friday. I can yeah. So just yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm just grateful. But I'm sure in two weeks
Speaker 1: I'll be crying again. But you know that's just how it.
Speaker 2: Give me two minutes, I know, haven't. I'm gonna stop talking,
Speaker 2: probably will start.
Speaker 1: No girl. Last week I was like, I create I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be a pre school teacher again. We're the kids.
Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with babies. I don't think
Speaker 2: you want to deal with parents during COVID times though
Speaker 2: I doesn't, I.
Speaker 1: Know, I was thinking. I was like that sucks. But
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just want to sing ABC's and the numbers in the shapes.
Speaker 1: It was so much easier, just bring it simple.
Speaker 2: Yeah kids. Though I did not realize. I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: I love my kid and no one else's kid. But
Speaker 2: I genuinely have every kid I meet, especially the kids
Speaker 2: in my neighborhood.
Speaker 1: I really like. I like I like them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're so nice to talk to and just have
Speaker 2: a and just get a hug and just bounce and
Speaker 2: have like a lollipop like I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I don't know about like preschool, but you know, I
Speaker 2: could hang out with Sydney down the street and just
Speaker 2: talk about unicorns for twenty minutes. And that.
Speaker 1: Health care also like so awesome.
Speaker 2: Like do we we we we don't give kids enough
Speaker 2: credit And I feel so like such a mom right now.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, I don't know, working with children
Speaker 2: is such a it's something. It's something I never really
Speaker 2: had wanted to do, you know, because I think maybe
Speaker 2: because my childhood wasn't so great, so I just assumed
Speaker 2: everyone was whatever. But yeah, it's it's so therapeutic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. That's why you see. I'd be like Caro,
Speaker 1: drop my kids off, Roman and a million because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's such a great because one, I know
Speaker 1: they're gonna be wild. I call them the crazies. I'm
Speaker 1: like the crazies. She's like crazy. I'm like, well drop
Speaker 1: them off because, like, you know, the energy there is
Speaker 1: just like they bring life to the house.
Speaker 2: There's no time to or exact worry about big problems,
Speaker 2: you know, and like it's YouTube channel has is not updating,
Speaker 2: like where's my next toy show?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 2: This girl cheese is too hot?
Speaker 1: Exactly, can you put an inter refrigerator? Okay, it's too cold,
Speaker 1: now can you warm it out? I'm like, what do
Speaker 1: you want to he already know. Roman was eat that
Speaker 1: damn rice. That's all he will eat the yellow Uncle
Speaker 1: Ben's rice. I'm like, Roman, you're gonna turn into rice.
Speaker 1: He said, that's all I want me. Well, a Milia
Speaker 1: is like y'all got ribs? Oh my god? Yo. So
Speaker 1: it's just but do you see even the joy it
Speaker 1: brings like talking about yes, like yeah, so you should.
Speaker 1: I'm just encourage everybody who's listening to pinpoint like a
Speaker 1: space for me. It's like my nieces and my nephew
Speaker 1: that like, whenever things are really overwhelming and I need
Speaker 1: to leave it at the door, that like I will
Speaker 1: go see them because I know I can't think about
Speaker 1: anything else. And so, but pinpointing for you, maybe it's
Speaker 1: the beach, you know, maybe it's a walk, maybe it's
Speaker 1: your favorite podcast. I'm brown ambition, leave a great review
Speaker 1: right if they're.
Speaker 2: Doing it right now, and they're like, shit, I came
Speaker 2: here to escape my depression and all they're doing is
Speaker 2: talking about Well.
Speaker 1: No, let's talk about something happy. So I I was
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pivoting that I'm doing now business.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to like touch upon like the importance
Speaker 1: of pivoting. Right, So y'all know, I have this online
Speaker 1: school call the Literature Academy. And for me, although we
Speaker 1: were like now and then, we have like forty or
Speaker 1: fifty thousand students and people will tell me I love
Speaker 1: the Academy. I love the Academy. The teacher in me
Speaker 1: was like, I gave the Academy a C plus B minus,
Speaker 1: meaning like I knew we could do better because I
Speaker 1: felt like we were adhering to like one type of
Speaker 1: learner who was super autonomous, like girl like I got this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like a mandy like, girl, bye,
Speaker 1: give me my stuff. I got it right. But I
Speaker 1: just was like, well, what about the person that needs
Speaker 1: the handholding. I felt like we were we were letting
Speaker 1: that woman down, you know, and I just couldn't put
Speaker 1: my finger on how So we're pivoting in that we
Speaker 1: will still have the autonomis component of the Academy, which
Speaker 1: is like a library, all these amazing classes. You can take,
Speaker 1: pick the books off the shelf, do what you need
Speaker 1: to do, but I'm creating this twelve step path program
Speaker 1: that will lead you to what I call a richer life,
Speaker 1: you know at the end. So it's very similar to
Speaker 1: like my Get Good with Money, like the ten Steps
Speaker 1: to financial hollness, but I just added and with the
Speaker 1: ten steps, I added mindset on the front end and
Speaker 1: philanthropy on the back end to make it twelve steps.
Speaker 1: So it's like mindset, budgeting, savings, that credit, learning to earn, insurance,
Speaker 1: investing your money, team, estate planning, and philanthropy. So it's
Speaker 1: these twelve steps. And what I love is I've been
Speaker 1: reaching out to different financial educators who can teach the
Speaker 1: complete step because before with the academy, you could take
Speaker 1: and it still will be there, like you could take
Speaker 1: a credit course that's forty five minutes, but I realized
Speaker 1: everyone doesn't have that capacity. So now it's like, you
Speaker 1: could take this credit course that's like eight modules and
Speaker 1: each of the videos is under five minutes. So that's
Speaker 1: what I feel like, Yes, like, so we still have
Speaker 1: the If you're like Mandy, you're like gir I don't
Speaker 1: need all that. Just I could take my class. I'm done,
Speaker 1: I'm autonomous. But if you're like, actually I want the breadcrumbing.
Speaker 1: We're finally adding that in and it's just it feels
Speaker 1: so good, Like I just wanted to share that that,
Speaker 1: Like you might be in a spot where business or
Speaker 1: life where the pivot is necessary. We're like, do I
Speaker 1: need to add on? Do I need to shift? Like
Speaker 1: I was telling Tracy, she was saying how she's very
Speaker 1: particular my sister who is a publicist. Right, so she's
Speaker 1: been doing it for like a year and some change
Speaker 1: and she's been slaying, but she's very particular about the
Speaker 1: client she takes on because she said, everyone thinks they
Speaker 1: need a publicist, but she won't take your money if
Speaker 1: she doesn't think you're ready, because she's like, that's not fair,
Speaker 1: you know, like I know if I pitch you, the
Speaker 1: answer is going to be null because they know that
Speaker 1: you're not ready. So she struggled with that, like, well
Speaker 1: what do I do because I literally have hundreds of
Speaker 1: people who are like I want to work with you.
Speaker 1: But I know because she has my other sister, Carol,
Speaker 1: who's like, this researcher will research your full brand and
Speaker 1: it says she will assess the likelihood of you getting
Speaker 1: press and if she thinks it's not likely they won't
Speaker 1: take you on, which I love, but she said, as
Speaker 1: a result, you know, I feel like I could have
Speaker 1: hundreds of people signed up, but I'm saying, no, what
Speaker 1: do I do? I said, well, what's the intermediary between
Speaker 1: the person who's ready to be pitched for press and
Speaker 1: the person who needs some work? You know? Is there
Speaker 1: a product in between? And she was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you already have done this deep dive research.
Speaker 1: Are you sharing it with folks? She's like yeah, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: why is that not a thing that like it's a product?
Speaker 1: So she started to do coaching now, and she's like, girl,
Speaker 1: it's gone so well that she does. She does coaching
Speaker 1: where you have to do at least three sessions and
Speaker 1: so they do this deep dive and they say, here's
Speaker 1: the way you can tweak and fix your brand to
Speaker 1: make it ready and even too, here's some ways that
Speaker 1: you can start to get pressed, at least preliminarily for yourself.
Speaker 1: And she said that has been going so well, and
Speaker 1: I'm just proud of her for that pivot where it's
Speaker 1: like I'm doing you know, level Z is my main business,
Speaker 1: but I'm leaving out people a through y what do
Speaker 1: I do? And so she created this coaching program like
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm sharing that because I'm just like I'm
Speaker 1: seeing those pivots, like in all of my my friends
Speaker 1: who you know, post pandemic, post quarantined, Like okay, like
Speaker 1: I saw my friend Lovey. She pivoted from she used
Speaker 1: to make most of her money from speaking engagements, but
Speaker 1: now she started this like Mighty Networks, which is like
Speaker 1: a community that you pay I think, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's like twenty bucks a month or whatever, but
Speaker 1: like she created a community where, like some of the
Speaker 1: resources that she was giving away, she realized that people
Speaker 1: really want a deeper die, so she created a community
Speaker 1: where she connects on a daily basis with that community.
Speaker 1: So she realized, like, okay, I had to pivot from
Speaker 1: just speaking engagements to providing additional access of community to me.
Speaker 1: And so it just so if you're listening, sometimes we
Speaker 1: bang our head against like, well, this is the way
Speaker 1: we know, this is the way we know, and it's
Speaker 1: like there are offsets and offshoots you can do of
Speaker 1: what you're currently doing, and sometimes it's just a completely
Speaker 1: total like a total, like you know, one sixty, one
Speaker 1: eighty or whatever, three sixty pivot totally, but I just
Speaker 1: encourage you not to be afraid to pivot to see
Speaker 1: is this the only way I could go about doing this?
Speaker 1: Is there something I can add on? If am I
Speaker 1: leaving out people who still need services and help? Can
Speaker 1: I provide that for those folks? I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I just encourage that because I mean there was
Speaker 1: a lot of stress with Tracy because she was just like, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, I just I'm not finding new clients, not
Speaker 1: because people are not interested, but I just can't see
Speaker 1: myself taking money from people who are not ready. And
Speaker 1: then I was like, don't not in the because that's
Speaker 1: not fair. But now look now those very people are like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this coaching is so amazing, and she's
Speaker 1: like so geeked by the fact that, like I'm like,
Speaker 1: I think that you never know this might be the
Speaker 1: thing you really do, like you maybe only have four
Speaker 1: clients and then the rest of the people come through
Speaker 1: in this way, and so like, yeah, I just like
Speaker 1: you know, I know, as you're as you're working through
Speaker 1: your business man and you're figuring out like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: is my like core base and what am I pivoting to? So, like,
Speaker 1: what's what's new in Bisland for you?
Speaker 2: Ooh oh yeah, A lot is new. But the biggest
Speaker 2: thing is that ever since July, I've been doing one
Speaker 2: on one career coaching.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just to pay it forward.
Speaker 2: And first of all, I wanted to just talk to women.
Speaker 2: Most of my followers on Instagram are women of color.
Speaker 2: And I posted in July, you know, are you interested
Speaker 2: in free coach free career coaching with Mandy with me?
Speaker 2: And I posted a form and I posted a form
Speaker 2: and I had over two hundred people within the first
Speaker 2: forty eight hours sign up. And then I was like, oh, snap,
Speaker 2: well what am I going to do? So, you know,
Speaker 2: I kind of created a calendar system and all that,
Speaker 2: and I've been trying to do a couple of sessions
Speaker 2: a day and we're ramping up. At this point, I've
Speaker 2: done about forty sessions, which doesn't sound like a lot,
Speaker 2: but that's forty forty women and I have eighty two
Speaker 2: more scheduled by the end of the year. And it
Speaker 2: hurt because, you know, when I was sick and then
Speaker 2: I was in my funk, I had to reschedule a
Speaker 2: lot of them. But it has been so fulfilling and
Speaker 2: it's free, it's a half hour. And no, I'm not
Speaker 2: taking any new applicants right now. I can't, but it
Speaker 2: has been And the reason that I put that form
Speaker 2: up and I made it, you know, detail like you
Speaker 2: had to put why you're interested in talking to me
Speaker 2: when you're looking to leave your job? What do you
Speaker 2: need help with to fill out a form? You know?
Speaker 2: And I feel like there wasn't one poor quality applicant.
Speaker 1: It was all and the women.
Speaker 2: That I get to talk to when I tell you,
Speaker 2: like it's almost in a lot of them listening to
Speaker 2: Brian Ambition obviously. So it's literally like I've had I've
Speaker 2: gotten to talk to our fans every day. I try
Speaker 2: to just I'm awkward, so I'm like, yeah, forget who
Speaker 2: I am. So it's come a much of career and
Speaker 2: the women, I I mean inspiring on another level and
Speaker 2: so like it just fills me up. It feels and
Speaker 2: I'm like, this feels good.
Speaker 1: How do I do this?
Speaker 2: And so I have been doing those and I am
Speaker 2: in the process of building out I've launched my I
Speaker 2: launched my just Quit toolkit, back around the same time
Speaker 2: or on my birthday in early August, and that's been
Speaker 2: downloaded nearly two thousand times and amazing. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: it's been really helping people. It's you know, it's a
Speaker 2: twelve page free download. And when I'm what I'm doing
Speaker 2: is I've leaned into this whole and I'm just owning
Speaker 2: my recipe for wealth building and my recipe for career success,
Speaker 2: which has been to actively quit whenever I decided that
Speaker 2: I found a new opportunity that paid better or offer
Speaker 2: me better careers prospects. And I talk about quitting seven
Speaker 2: times in ten years and how there's a stigma around
Speaker 2: job hopping and how that really only benefits employers, but
Speaker 2: it actually is not true because job hopping I think
Speaker 2: helps every wom in the end. But anyhow, so I
Speaker 2: had the just quit toolkit. Now I'm working on quit
Speaker 2: your Way Rich course, Yeah, which is going to be
Speaker 2: I know, I feel like, oh course, but no, literally,
Speaker 2: it's going to be. I mean, you talk about modules,
Speaker 2: a ton of different modules, but everything from you know,
Speaker 2: passively job searching, I mean, and the women that I
Speaker 2: talk to every day, the questions that they're asking me,
Speaker 2: I know, I have so much to say and so
Speaker 2: much to offer, and I talking to women every day
Speaker 2: kind of as my focus group. I know exactly, you
Speaker 2: know what the challenges are and it's just been so
Speaker 2: that's what I've that's what I'm focusing on. I'm a
Speaker 2: bit I'm not gonna stay behind because you know, I'm
Speaker 2: where I need to be. But because of that those
Speaker 2: few weeks of downtime, but that's my focus. I'm I've
Speaker 2: stepped away from the consulting because you know, that was
Speaker 2: my first that was my bread and butter. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: doing consulting, which is one of the modules. That's my
Speaker 2: course is going to be how to become a consultant.
Speaker 2: You know, how to leverage your professional how to do
Speaker 2: what you're doing for an employer and do it for
Speaker 2: way more money on your own and not report to anybody,
Speaker 2: which is a lot of the women I talk to
Speaker 2: you they want to like consult and you know what
Speaker 2: the secret is that it's you just have to call
Speaker 2: yourself a consultant and that's all you have to do.
Speaker 1: Now honestly, that is all like it's the pivot, Like
Speaker 1: I love that I was taught. I did like a
Speaker 1: live the other day where I talked about in the beginning,
Speaker 1: you're kind of hustling up, you know, because you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know I can make money like this, so we
Speaker 1: got to pay these bills. Let's get to a stable.
Speaker 1: We're paying bills. But then in the back of your
Speaker 1: mind you kind of have like this is really I
Speaker 1: think I want to adapt and so but it's okay.
Speaker 1: In the beginning, I think people feel like if I'm
Speaker 1: not working in my passion right away, something's wrong. It's like, no, exis,
Speaker 1: bills must be paid. So no, that's sounds exciting. I
Speaker 1: can't wait for it to be done so you could
Speaker 1: share it with us so we can.
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny. I was up till like three am,
Speaker 2: like just having a manic episode, you know, planning, and
Speaker 2: I was like, get feeling better. So I was like,
Speaker 2: I got to buy domains and I got to look
Speaker 2: at webinar options and da da da, And then I
Speaker 2: was like, I actually listened to a module of your
Speaker 2: Literature Academy where you I think it was recent because
Speaker 2: I'm like, she talked about this on the podcast, but
Speaker 2: you're talking about building a movement and everything. It was
Speaker 2: nice to listen to you. It was I felt so
Speaker 2: weird because I'm like, I could just call, but why not.
Speaker 2: She's already created this. Why don't I just listen to
Speaker 2: and what she got to say? And you talked about
Speaker 2: building a movement and your dream catchers and dream builders,
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, I have to. I want
Speaker 2: to create a community too, because for me, I don't
Speaker 2: just want it to be that art, you know, just
Speaker 2: have a course out there and then here you go,
Speaker 2: go get it and I'm not going to ever be around.
Speaker 2: I like personal connection. I like talking to women about
Speaker 2: whatever is going on their lives and my life, you know,
Speaker 2: and anyway, So I'm trying to create a community. And
Speaker 2: also I know the two hundred women that I've that
Speaker 2: i'm in the process of talking to, like they I'm like,
Speaker 2: you guys need to talk to each other because I'm
Speaker 2: talking to people in the same like the same industries,
Speaker 2: and I'm already thinking like, oh, but I talked to
Speaker 2: like Ashley last week, who's also in and these are
Speaker 2: women who were like in VP level, director level, these
Speaker 2: are big jobs and anyway, so I'm like, if I
Speaker 2: could create a community where yes, I'm available, but also
Speaker 2: they can lean on one another. I think that could
Speaker 2: be really powerful. But what was funny is I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the hell am I going to call them? Like
Speaker 2: Tiffany calls them dream builders and like, you know what
Speaker 2: is Mariah Carey calls hers lambs like Lady Gaga your monsters.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, are we going to be the quitters?
Speaker 2: Is that going to be our name? Like we're the Quitters?
Speaker 1: But that's inspiration, like you'll think of something, You'll think
Speaker 1: of something. Yes, honestly, I love this pivot for you.
Speaker 1: And right one of the things I talked about in
Speaker 1: that course about building a community that you know, you
Speaker 1: truly have a community when they don't lean solely or
Speaker 1: even mostly on you, they lean on each other. That's
Speaker 1: how you know, you don't you know, Like yeah, no,
Speaker 1: oh this is really like this is awesome. I think,
Speaker 1: I I know we have it sometimes, you know, we
Speaker 1: we we talk about like our lives and things like that.
Speaker 1: But it's nice to also, like, you know, dip in
Speaker 1: and chat about business because I know so many of
Speaker 1: you guys are starting businesses or wanted to start businesses,
Speaker 1: or just curious about how does it all go? And
Speaker 1: so we try to make you know, especially now that
Speaker 1: Mandy has come onto the business. We'll have more about that. Well,
Speaker 1: in the interest of time, I think it's time to
Speaker 1: segment to boost break Oh boost, break on boost, don't
Speaker 1: break on?
Speaker 2: Booze?
Speaker 1: Oh break? Are you gunn a booze? Breaks? Like clap?
Speaker 1: Wait wait, clap clap, clap, clap, clap, clap.
Speaker 2: Clap, clap, clap, clap to snap, snap, snap, snap, because
Speaker 2: I have to clap. I have to clap like around
Speaker 2: my mic. It's awkward.
Speaker 1: All right, Mandy, are you gonna boost that you get?
Speaker 2: I am going to do a boost and a very
Speaker 2: a simple boost. And this is one of the things
Speaker 2: like I've been doing this, uh, these mentorship career conversations
Speaker 2: for so long. I don't know if you guys know this,
Speaker 2: but on LinkedIn, and this is one of my keys
Speaker 2: to passively job searching. It's almost like it's it's like formulating, yes,
Speaker 2: your LinkedIn profile is important. But there's this new button
Speaker 2: that you can click on LinkedIn called the open to
Speaker 2: work button. So if you go to your profile on
Speaker 2: LinkedIn right now and you look underneath your photo and
Speaker 2: your and your title, there's a button that says open too,
Speaker 2: and then you click that and you can actually this
Speaker 2: signals to recruiters and they can filter. Because I feel
Speaker 2: like and when I was recruiting as a hiring manager,
Speaker 2: LinkedIn was my preferred tool of choice. I think it's wonderful.
Speaker 2: A lot of recruiters are using LinkedIn as a tool
Speaker 2: to recruit. But now if you say you're open to work,
Speaker 2: they can actually see, oh, this person's actually available, like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I might have a shot at getting a response.
Speaker 2: So I really encourage the women I'm talking to to
Speaker 2: actually go to LinkedIn and turn on their open to
Speaker 2: work signal, and LinkedIn will do its best to hide
Speaker 2: I know some people are like, like, worried, oh what
Speaker 2: if my boss sees that I'm open to personally, I
Speaker 2: think let them know, like, let them know that you're
Speaker 2: keeping your options open. But if you're worried about that,
Speaker 2: LinkedIn will they say they will try their best to
Speaker 2: hide that from people who work at your company, and
Speaker 2: then especially people on the recruiting side who work at
Speaker 2: your company. So there is a bit of that. You
Speaker 2: can look at your privacy settings, but I think it's
Speaker 2: a just simple way to do it. And this is
Speaker 2: the key though, when you put open to work, and
Speaker 2: I've actually talked to women, I'm like, tell me what'd
Speaker 2: you say you were open to? And they may be
Speaker 2: open to only titles that they've already had or previous titles.
Speaker 2: I'm like, be sure that you are open to and
Speaker 2: looking into, like what is the next level for you
Speaker 2: and what are those job titles? Because you want to
Speaker 2: be available, you know for recruiters who are searching for
Speaker 2: those roles. And some of the women I've talked to,
Speaker 2: you know, they haven't been reaching or aiming high enough
Speaker 2: when it comes to their title and open to work.
Speaker 2: So that's my my career tip, and I think it's wonderful,
Speaker 2: my little my little career boost.
Speaker 1: Yes, my boost is super simple too. So I just
Speaker 1: found out. Let me check, actually, let me check right now.
Speaker 1: We at we were at author my author portal, So
Speaker 1: I got some really amazing Yes, isn't that crazy? So
Speaker 1: I have officially sold, which is so crazy, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pull I'm pulling up b like so when you well,
Speaker 1: I don't know how it is with other publishers, but
Speaker 1: for example, Penguin, of course my computers, like I think,
Speaker 1: so Penguin allows you to have, like to see, like
Speaker 1: how much you've sold. So I've sold one hundred thousand, Well,
Speaker 1: yea like one hundred thousand copies, like one hundred and
Speaker 1: like two thousand copies, No, one hundred and two, one
Speaker 1: hundred two thousand copies. But there's basically over one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand copies. I hit that. That that benchmark, I'm going
Speaker 1: to say Friday, you know, so a few days ago.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It took me a while to
Speaker 1: like cause I was like, okay, is that good? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it's good, but I didn't know how well.
Speaker 1: So I did a little Google. I was like, how
Speaker 1: many books sell one hundred thousand copies in there in
Speaker 1: a year?
Speaker 2: So it said how many personal finance books? Sorry? I
Speaker 2: know so typically in personal finance books, Okay.
Speaker 1: There are million, Like there are literally millions and millions
Speaker 1: and millions of books that are selling annually, and about
Speaker 1: two hundred of them will ever sell one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: copies in a year. But then it whittles down further
Speaker 1: that of the two hundred one twenty are books that
Speaker 1: have already been out there, meaning like the Bible is
Speaker 1: still selling one hundred thousand copies a year, Rich Dad,
Speaker 1: Poor Dad. You know those types of books like The Secret.
Speaker 1: So really, there are about one million new books that
Speaker 1: launch annually, and of those one million new books that
Speaker 1: launch annually, only about eighty sell over one hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: So it's like wow, like a quarter of one percent.
Speaker 1: And I was just like wow, Tiffany, because I'm not
Speaker 1: really one for soaking things in. I'm like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: next thing. And I was like, no, no, I want
Speaker 1: you to soak in that you sold one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: copies plus of your book in seven months, not even
Speaker 1: in twelve months and seven months, Tiffany, like that's not
Speaker 1: a small thing. You guys have just like shown up
Speaker 1: fully for this book. And I just and if you're like,
Speaker 1: what book? Get good with Money? Hello, because some people
Speaker 1: might be like, I'm new what book? So I wrote
Speaker 1: a book gego with money and the fact that it
Speaker 1: was on the list for eight weeks. I'm actually going
Speaker 1: to have a party. I told myself I'm having a party.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have it probably the first or the
Speaker 1: second week in December. I want to cater it like
Speaker 1: a party party, yes, because I'm talking about I want
Speaker 1: to invite. Literally, I'll figure out what it looks like.
Speaker 1: But I'm you know, some of y'all be invited. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it'll be ours VP, and so it's not invite only,
Speaker 1: but certainly ours VP. So we can have a cap
Speaker 1: But I'm going to have a party with the DJ
Speaker 1: and food because I never marked the time, you know,
Speaker 1: like I never stamp. I'm like, this is a big
Speaker 1: deal to me. You wrote this book, get it with money.
Speaker 1: You poured your heart into it. You wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that it really was a guide for especially women,
Speaker 1: especially brown women, a guide to work them through the
Speaker 1: most basic parts of personal finance to the complicated components
Speaker 1: of personal finance and these ten steps. You did it.
Speaker 1: You made the list, you stayed on it for eight weeks.
Speaker 1: You sold one hundred thousand copies. Girl, it's deserving up
Speaker 1: a party, and so we're having a party, and so
Speaker 1: I just, yeah, I just wanted to boost that.
Speaker 2: Because I'm so excited, first of all for the one
Speaker 2: hundred k. The second of all, because you really don't
Speaker 2: throw parties. I don't barely had a party for your
Speaker 2: own wedding.
Speaker 1: Literally, I did it. Literally my wedding was we're going
Speaker 1: to the Justice Piece and we're gonna have to like
Speaker 1: a lunch at like my friends. I just, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I'm just not one
Speaker 1: for like stamping like you know, accomplishments or stamping like
Speaker 1: and I was like, stop, We're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you feel like you can't or
Speaker 1: you shouldn't, but I'm like, no, We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: Dagon party, Tiffany. We're gonna have a really good time
Speaker 1: because I want to remember and think back like this was.
Speaker 1: This is a joyful, momentous occasion, you know, and so
Speaker 1: like yeah, so I'm just excited about that. I just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to share that as a boost that
Speaker 1: you know, that's something that I I Yeah, it's hard
Speaker 1: to wrap my mind around because you know, the number
Speaker 1: is one thing.
Speaker 2: I'm the jk Rowling a personal final.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so crazy, like it's all my vision
Speaker 1: where I'm looking at my vision board now. It said
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand copies sold. I didn't say when, And
Speaker 1: it's a New York Times bestseller and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm actually here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm gonna need a bigger vision board I know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, don't worry. We're gonna have a party. We're
Speaker 1: go party so hard that I'm gonna I'm gonna slip
Speaker 1: into my crop halfway through so my feet could be comfortable.
Speaker 1: That card of party.
Speaker 2: I'm so freaking excited for you and will continue to
Speaker 2: be so proud, so proud to know you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. If you want to get the book, get
Speaker 1: go with money dot Com. Somebody I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you forgot your commercial, Tiffany. I would be shocked.
Speaker 2: If anyone listening right now, you should be ashamed of
Speaker 2: yourselves and listen. If you haven't gotten the book yet,
Speaker 2: it's not go get the book. Go to your local
Speaker 2: target yep. And if you don't, you check the Dave
Speaker 2: Ramsey book because I might have put hers over it
Speaker 2: that I love like Westchester Target yea dot com. Well
Speaker 2: we're back. I'm so glad to be back.
Speaker 1: If you go, and don't forget guys. You know, this
Speaker 1: is just one of two episodes that we do weekly.
Speaker 1: So we're actually about to go tape our Q and
Speaker 1: a episode for Friday's drop. So keep your Q and
Speaker 1: as pouring on in share, you know, copy and paste
Speaker 1: if you've got friends in business or otherwise, copy paste
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Speaker 1: your group chat, like let's get this, let's get our
Speaker 1: you know, we would love to just ex we didn't
Speaker 1: even have it.
Speaker 2: Speaking of celebrating, we have not had a chance to
Speaker 2: celebrate with ba fam Our iHeartRadio Best Business Podcast Award.
Speaker 1: Not we have to think about how we gonna sell it.
Speaker 1: We have to have dinner something, because we had a
Speaker 1: fun dinner before.
Speaker 2: They need to invite us to LA. That's what I'm
Speaker 2: thinking that I would live Heart Media Awards, but no,
Speaker 2: we are up against Earn Your Leisure, which doesn't even
Speaker 2: feel like competition. Just friends, just bros.
Speaker 1: But like I built this, how I built that?
Speaker 2: My husband was like, what he actually listens to that podcast?
Speaker 2: Not mine, but he listens to That's crazy Guy Raz,
Speaker 2: the one and only. Yes, We're up in the Sun.
Speaker 1: And it was something else too. Is it a planet
Speaker 1: money which is huge, NPR's planet.
Speaker 2: One of planet I don't know if it's plenty of money,
Speaker 2: one of NPR shows and then a Bloomberg show, so legit.
Speaker 2: I mean, not that we needed anyone else's like validation,
Speaker 2: but it feels damn damn good we would be recognized.
Speaker 2: It feels really good to be recognized, and it feels like,
Speaker 2: you know, everything is right on time. But I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we deserve it. Are thousand percent. Thank y'all. Thank y'all
Speaker 2: for rocking with us, and you know, continuing to support
Speaker 2: the show because yeah, we put everything into it.
Speaker 1: We do all right, y'all until next week. We'll really
Speaker 1: until Friday. See until Brian, you had to be a
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