WEBVTT - Ep 289: What to Do When Depression and Anxiety Won't Let You Be Great

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're back for real. We're black, of

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<v Speaker 1>course we're brown. Always ambition and shine and missing ambition, ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I missed you, girl, I missed you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Absence makes the heart grow fonder. I missed that little jingle.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we took a little break.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was nice to take a break. I know

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't like we're like you guys probably didn't notice

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<v Speaker 1>because we did a lot of like taping and pre

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<v Speaker 1>taping so that way, you know, you guys still got

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<v Speaker 1>your show. But me and Mandy, what has it been

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<v Speaker 1>like two three weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>It's been about three weeks. Yeah, since we've actually been

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<v Speaker 2>on the air together. But a lot of life has

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<v Speaker 2>happened in between. Not amazing things have happened for me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm happy to be standing here. I got really

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<v Speaker 2>super sick. I didn't even get my damn vacation. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get it. I'm in between vacation blessings

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<v Speaker 2>right now. That's what I'm going to call it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna get it. But no, I feel at

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<v Speaker 2>least I got at least I had that vacation time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was almost like I prepped I prepped to be gone.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was sick, I was like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the additional stress of like trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like turn my entire schedule around. So yeah, we had

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<v Speaker 2>a staycation, but go ahead tell me about Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I'm glad you did, because I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's part of the blessings of being able to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, work for yourself and run your own company.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you just had to say, so, Mandy, we need

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<v Speaker 1>some time, and Mandy was like, oh, their, you got it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yes, you know, it wasn't even when I

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<v Speaker 2>was sick that was That was the challenging part, because

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel like, at least I've been fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 2>to work for places where when you say that you're sick,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they take your word for it and people

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<v Speaker 2>kind of rally around you. But what I really did

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<v Speaker 2>not expect was I was sick for about ten ten too.

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<v Speaker 2>I was almost sick for two weeks straight, really really ill,

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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't like play with the baby. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I fell into a like a depression. I've never I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been sick in so long, but I had. What

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<v Speaker 2>was more difficult for me was when I was better,

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<v Speaker 2>like when I had my voice back and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have like migraines all day. I fell into this very

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<v Speaker 2>unexpected depression and I felt it was it was harder

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<v Speaker 2>to me to be in that state than to be

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<v Speaker 2>actually sick with like symptoms because I still felt like

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to sleep all day and I and I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't had an episode like that since, you know, since

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<v Speaker 2>I was like postpartum and I had you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>struggled with depression then, but it it knocked me on

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<v Speaker 2>my ass, and it was really hard because I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be back and everyone was like, you're back, you know, yay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was not back. I was not back. So

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<v Speaker 2>I found myself literally I turned on my vacation response

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<v Speaker 2>under just because I couldn't. I just couldn't deal. I couldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad in retrospect, I realized I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was pulling some levers that were actually really good coping mechanisms,

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<v Speaker 2>like vacation responder. I told my family, Hey, I'm fine,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just can't talk. So I, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>put up some boundaries. I leaned into it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I did all whatever I could within a healthy range,

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<v Speaker 2>just to just so I like slept, you know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to sleep, don't question why, don't should have

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<v Speaker 2>would have kuda yourself out of this state? Just sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So it was difficult, but thank goodness, I

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<v Speaker 2>came out of it because I hate it so much.

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<v Speaker 2>And my heart goes out to everyone dealing with that

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<v Speaker 2>because it doesn't feel like something that you can just

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<v Speaker 2>call out sick for, but I do think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're right, and honestly, that's what Remember when I

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<v Speaker 1>took the six weeks. That's what's happening, you know, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was like. I took that six weeks away.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. We did some pre taping the part, not

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<v Speaker 1>not really you guys had like the co hosts or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because I was struggling and drowning and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like if I don't do something, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get better. And so it's not easy sometimes to force

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<v Speaker 1>yourself to take time away because it's not like visibly

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, nothing's wrong. You're like you're not coughing,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not sniffling. You're like, yeah, but I'm still not well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't realize it was that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously I knew you were going through like

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of like challenges at the time, but you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's six weeks. It was what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean I think you positioned at the time

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<v Speaker 2>as like, I'm just going to take a breather and

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<v Speaker 2>get back to my business. But you know, I do

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<v Speaker 2>think it's it's important to talk about taking those breaks

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<v Speaker 2>for literally just a mental health break. Yes, And that's

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been more grateful to own my schedule than

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<v Speaker 2>when I had I had no one to explain it to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would have had to take three weeks

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<v Speaker 2>off of work, two weeks to be physically and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was in that deep funk for like a week

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<v Speaker 2>a week and a half after that. Imagine like that's

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<v Speaker 2>for some people, They only get like twelve days a

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<v Speaker 2>year of sick leave, you know, and you're lucky if

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<v Speaker 2>it's paid sick leave at that. AnyWho, I'm just so

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<v Speaker 2>glad to be out of it. And when I tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>I came out of that fog a few days before Halloween,

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<v Speaker 2>I got it together.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby boy.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a handmade construction truck costume that he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Not wear, but I made it.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't wear it. He was afraid of it. He

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do everything. He wanted to sit on it,

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to dance on it. He wanted to push

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<v Speaker 2>it around the house and dig things. But he did

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<v Speaker 2>not want to wear I'm not putting that out like

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<v Speaker 2>I'll wear the cute boots, though he was definitely under

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<v Speaker 2>the construction boots. He felt so cool. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>in my in my neighbors. When I tell you the village,

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<v Speaker 2>I have surrounded myself with these random, strange who I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just moved into this neighborhood four years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've made like I've just made friends with some

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<v Speaker 2>of my neighbors, really good friends with so many neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>And we hosted a block party, which I decided to

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<v Speaker 2>do before I got sick and depressed and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to I mean, I had texted them.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, y'all, I just can't do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to be honest. I cookies. Cookies felt like the

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<v Speaker 2>dumbest thing in the world to me a week ago,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and like bounce houses and stuff. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I got out of the fog, they they all they

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<v Speaker 2>just handled it while I was in my funk, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like they we got the permitted proofs, we closed the

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<v Speaker 2>street down.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Got the bounce house, you know, the dad's made hot

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<v Speaker 2>dogs and burgers and you know, so huge shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to my to my neighborhood village here because it was

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<v Speaker 2>so cool for the kids yesterday. And I'm feeling much

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<v Speaker 2>better now. I'm glad to be back. It feels good

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<v Speaker 2>to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm happy for you to be back. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad that you know that one that you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can always take time. You know, our listeners know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know we've been. We've been, we've been riding, which y'all

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<v Speaker 1>for six years. You could take a little gab off,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and me too like that. I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>like you know that you won that you realize. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's some of the tools. Because that's what I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing with my six weeks. I said, Okay, if I

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<v Speaker 1>took a week a quarter, I wouldn't be so backed

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<v Speaker 1>up like this, Tiffany. So that's what I've been doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like every quarter I have a week walked off. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean I have to go somewhere. It just means

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing anything. I know that and so so

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<v Speaker 1>that way it gives me chance to reset every quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's how I offset. And but yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of my week off, I I went to Hope, Baii.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mg, I'd never been to Hawaii before. Which part

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<v Speaker 1>of Hawaii did you go to? Well? I did two islands.

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<v Speaker 1>I did Awahu. So I stayed in like Quakiki, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very Cosmopolitans with the splash of island, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>a big splash of island. So think downtown Chicago for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you a familiar Downtown Chicago's like super fancy,

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<v Speaker 1>has like all like the pride of Gucci or maz whatever. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So downtown Chicago is like a much cleaner New.

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<v Speaker 2>York Magnificent Mile.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that that like Magna Street with all Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>think about that. It was that all the Gucci prauah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. But then it was like, oh but

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<v Speaker 1>look at that sunset. Oh my god. Like literally it's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a med store and then there's the beach

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<v Speaker 1>right next to it, you know. So Waikiki was very

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<v Speaker 1>much that, although we did go snorkeling and we did

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<v Speaker 1>like with Waikiki outside this if you're too some Hawaii tips,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely rent a car because it's really not because the

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<v Speaker 1>things you're wanting to do are going to be far away,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So like if you stay in like Waikiki,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly like where we stayed, it's you know, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>like really nice downtown and beach and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also wanted to go snorkeling, and we also

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<v Speaker 1>want to do a little hiking, so we were able

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<v Speaker 1>to drive to do those things. So you definitely want

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<v Speaker 1>to rent your car ahead of time. We stayed at

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<v Speaker 1>the Prince Hotel, which is really nice. It's probably like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the highest rates. I always use trip Advisor

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<v Speaker 1>to see of the highest rates rated hotels in the resort.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the whole all inclusive thing just I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>He has that, But it wasn't over it was I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was. There were so many hotels

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<v Speaker 1>to choose from, but the Prince was clean. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like nice. You know. It's not the highest of the tears.

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<v Speaker 1>But some of the hotels from just reading some of

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<v Speaker 1>the recent reviews that some of them were like super

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<v Speaker 1>fancy at one point and the kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fell into like disrepair. So but that's not so with

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<v Speaker 1>the Prince. We loved it. Stayed there for four nights

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<v Speaker 1>and then we went to Maui for three nights, and

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<v Speaker 1>MAOIs the opposite of raiki Ki, right, So Maori is

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<v Speaker 1>like just like it's more nature and more like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really get like the downtown esque, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it was just so beautiful. Both of them

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<v Speaker 1>were really beautiful, and in Maui because Maui is so expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>like like so just to be candid, like Prince, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>our hotel was two hundred bucks a night, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what you expect for like a nice hotel in a city.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good. Actually, yeah, it's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it was like maybe, like so so I

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<v Speaker 1>want my sister and now with my frand Cabrow. So he

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<v Speaker 1>had his own room, my sister and I had her room. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like maybe two hundred two twenty. So it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Maui two hundred, what girl, you can rend this cardboard

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<v Speaker 1>box for two hundred I'm talking about like a Howard

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<v Speaker 1>Inn in Maui's like six hundred bucks a night.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's what I would expect it must be like,

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<v Speaker 2>because people probably go for this, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The year it is it is. I guess it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the frows. It was so expensive. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what are we gonna do? Because one

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<v Speaker 1>of my angelie actually told me that, my financial planner,

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<v Speaker 1>she actually went to Maui too, around the same time

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<v Speaker 1>we were there, and she told me that she spent

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred bucks a night from the Fairmont and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, really, how'd you get that? She said, Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>we booked a full year in advance, twelve whole months

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<v Speaker 1>in advance. She said, cause normally the Fairmont it's like

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred dollars a night. And You're like, what, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like the penny No, for a regular, regular hotel, you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a thousand dollars a night. It is considered

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<v Speaker 1>not so bad. And I was like, ain't no way.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what we gonna do? Because I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Maui. My friend Cabroul had a great idea.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a girl Airbnb, so we found an Airbnb

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<v Speaker 1>that was six hundred bucks a night. So it ended

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<v Speaker 1>up still being two hundred apiece because we split it

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<v Speaker 1>three ways. Oh yes, yeah, so it was like but

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<v Speaker 1>it was like it was really nice. It was a villa,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a villa like a complex with like

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<v Speaker 1>it was a villa complex. It was like a gated

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<v Speaker 1>community where like like really well appointed villas that were

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<v Speaker 1>literally right on the water. So it was such a

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<v Speaker 1>great like juxtaposition too. We were staying in the city

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<v Speaker 1>in a nice hotel and now we're staying in this villa,

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<v Speaker 1>so it felt very villa, but the price was the

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<v Speaker 1>same as like the city. So that was like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little hack for Hawaii is that if you're

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<v Speaker 1>staying on one of the islands that tends to be

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<v Speaker 1>a more premier, exclusive island to look for an airbnb. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it will make sense if you're traveling with other people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's just gonna be priced girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, but it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like long too. That's a whole yng week gone

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<v Speaker 2>for a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I will say this, though I never fly,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never paid for first class. I've only ever been

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<v Speaker 1>bumped up because I want you know.

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<v Speaker 2>No meaning that like I've only people no one does.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're doing it right, you're not paying for first class, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I didn't want to go ten

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<v Speaker 1>hours in this upright seat. And I was like, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your birthday trip. Untilie always tells me I

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<v Speaker 1>don't spend any money, and I was like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay for first curse. I know, so I paid for

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get a pod? Yes? It was so nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, is this how the other half lives? Angelie

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<v Speaker 1>would tell me you are the other half? Tipan, you

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<v Speaker 1>just refuse taking.

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<v Speaker 2>That opening scene of crazy rich Asians when they're on

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<v Speaker 2>the flight. Have you ever seen that movie when they're

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<v Speaker 2>on the Singapore It is I'm like, book me that airline.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be I just want to be

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<v Speaker 2>financially secure enough to just have that be a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, those types of flights, like say, if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do first class to China, I heard it's like

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars. I'm like, Hawaii was not cheap. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say that it was a little under two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars for you know, round trip, which is not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know for first class ten hours there are ten

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<v Speaker 1>hours back. But it was worth it because it was

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<v Speaker 1>just such a long flight and it was really comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I had never yet all.

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<v Speaker 2>Your friends also get did your sister get first class?

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<v Speaker 1>She did? And then but my friend Camera, he always

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<v Speaker 1>fights to hors class. He was like, girl, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>do nothing else. So like you know, like that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>his life. You got just well, i'll see you're coach

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<v Speaker 1>over here. So because usually, like I said, like usually

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<v Speaker 1>like I you know, I get bumped up just because

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<v Speaker 1>I travel enough that like I'm on the list, and

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<v Speaker 1>so like maybe he's done first class maybe like four

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<v Speaker 1>times in my life, and it's because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've just gotten bumped or I'll use points to like

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<v Speaker 1>bump me up. But yeah, I was like you know what, Tiffany, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was honestly, it was such a great trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do any work. Everything Hawaii. We did all

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<v Speaker 1>the things we wanted to do. If you ever want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Hawaii and do a luau, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to book at least like two or three weeks before

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<v Speaker 1>you go because they go really fast. Luau's are really

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<v Speaker 1>popular and it's it's an experience that everyone should have,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's very cultural. Did you do one? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>did one, thankfully. I So my sister's birthday was on

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty fifth of October, and we surprised her. I

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<v Speaker 1>told her that we couldn't get a lout because they're

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<v Speaker 1>all booked. But then we surprised, were like, psych, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to a louo au tonight. So she was super excited.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was just like, honestly, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are always the meanest way to surprise people, make

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<v Speaker 2>them really upset, you sake.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kidding, but I was saying, it was just such

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<v Speaker 1>a great time because it was nice to spend time

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<v Speaker 1>with my sister, my friend, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Sister Tracy, Tracy of Tracy p r Yes, Tracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Feeling for a poblicist. I'm only proud of Tracy. So

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<v Speaker 1>we should talk about some business stuff but like later,

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<v Speaker 1>but like how she's like that's a pivoting and pivoting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm amazed by her too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because I feel like over the years you've

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned Tracy here and there, and now I'm like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>she's really doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's only been a year in amazing slaying. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so like I said, it was just great and not

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, every every quarter, I'll be I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>not working for a week and whether that's a week

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<v Speaker 1>traveling or whether that's just a week at home, then

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<v Speaker 1>so be it. But it was just a really good,

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<v Speaker 1>a really good time. And I just like I'm feeling like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Mandy, I'm like just feeling like in

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<v Speaker 1>such like a better space and place that not that

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<v Speaker 1>life has gotten easier. I've just gotten better at managing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm putting those things in. Like you said, you

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<v Speaker 1>said something really smart, Like when you said that, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there are the levers that I pulled that it was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what okay, like you know, my vacation, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, responder, you know, texting my family to let

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<v Speaker 1>them know, letting you know, Like I'm learning to pull

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<v Speaker 1>those levers so as things, you know, because things are

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna get busier. But it doesn't mean that I

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<v Speaker 1>have to, Like I'm learning one how to recognize the

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<v Speaker 1>sign like oh, oh, Tiffany, we're starting to get into

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<v Speaker 1>that space of overwhelm, like you need to. Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>much better having the hard conversations I've been having a

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<v Speaker 1>lot lately. And I remember being like, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to say it, and I was like, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's hard. Remember what doctor Green taught you

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<v Speaker 1>that your reaction that you're having is really the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>of ten year old Tiffany being afraid, not forty two

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<v Speaker 1>year old Tiffany. Whatever that consequence was gonna be when

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<v Speaker 1>you're ten is not the same as when you're forty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure is it uncomfortable, but it's not the same consequence.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're an adult, you have full agency. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting so much better. So as a result, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feeling the anxiety like it's shortening my anxiety time, which

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<v Speaker 1>has been so amazing that I'm like, it's hard. We

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<v Speaker 1>fixed it. Oh it's hard. You said the thing, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not perfect, but we've said it, and we've shaved

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<v Speaker 1>off a significant component of the anxiety. I'm just feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like so much better. Like I said, life has definitely

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<v Speaker 1>gotten harder, but I feel more equipped to manage, like

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<v Speaker 1>what comes my way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy to hear that. I'm so happy to

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<v Speaker 2>hear it. And I feel like anxiety and what I've

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<v Speaker 2>made peace with with my anxiety and depression is that

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<v Speaker 2>I live with it, like I almost feel like and

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<v Speaker 2>this goes for anything like self doubt, negative expect, like fear,

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<v Speaker 2>all those things. I just imagine that it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>little furry like kind of cute but like an ugly

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<v Speaker 2>dog that you love, you know, And it's just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like sitting on my desk or wherever I am

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, Hi, how are you? Oh you again?

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<v Speaker 2>You're just gonna sit there. I know how to handle you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're gonna be there, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's almost like it's becoming mature enough to recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that there's always going to be stress, but not being

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<v Speaker 2>so reactive to it instead of just reacting to those

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<v Speaker 2>things that stress you were those moments when you're anxious.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like putting systems in place and knowing what those

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<v Speaker 2>lovers are exactly. And it's a good time to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it too, because it's November first and seasonal, like

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<v Speaker 2>with the season's changing, especially if you're in a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the country like we are where it gets dark,

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<v Speaker 2>so early seasonal depression is for real, for real. So

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<v Speaker 2>if everyone's listening, like, just go easy on yourself. I

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<v Speaker 2>did not get to go on my vacation, but I

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<v Speaker 2>am doing I'm going to book a facial and a massage.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to do some self care, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even if I don't feel like i'm I need it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like, I'm not overwhelmed right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good time for us to have this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I didn't cry because I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna cry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh No, it's hard, it's yeah, And we're like sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we're just so hard on ourselves, like I'm sorry, why

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<v Speaker 1>can't you fly again? It's like, I mean, what the heck?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're so hard on ourselves. And it's just like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you literally in a year, you've got a baby, a husband,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a brand new business.

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<v Speaker 2>Like do you have to say now you're gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>me cry?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, but I'm just saying that, like it, it has

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot. It's been a lot. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, well, what more do you do we want?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sorry, quarantine, pandemic. Everyone's experiencing trauma, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like doctor Green told me that she asked me that

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<v Speaker 1>I know what trauma was, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, girl, I mean, I know, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know the words. And she's like, well, trauma is twofold.

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<v Speaker 1>It's when something has happened that ought not to have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just say you were used as a child

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<v Speaker 1>that should not have happened. Or when something should have

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<v Speaker 1>happened but did not, let's just say that you were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be fed and you know you were starved.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. So we are all experiencing trauma. Things that

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<v Speaker 1>happened that ought not to have happened, or things that

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<v Speaker 1>ought to have happened did not, and so none of

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<v Speaker 1>us have If you are still here and you could

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<v Speaker 1>hear our voice, you live to a quarantine, pandemic and

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<v Speaker 1>all the other things combined, we're all experiencing some form

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<v Speaker 1>of trauma. Now for some people it's hit harder than others,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a lot. And giving yourself the grace and

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<v Speaker 1>the space to like navigate through, that's just that's all

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<v Speaker 1>we can do, and hopefully that you're consciously navigating through,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've definitely been someone who has like not I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's there, but I haven't done anything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't want to live like

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<v Speaker 1>that anymore. I want to actively work on on like

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<v Speaker 1>what does better look like? For me? What does happier

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<v Speaker 1>look like? For me? What does more alignment look like

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<v Speaker 1>for me? You know, it's that communication like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like Mandy, I'm so sorry man, you teckt me that

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<v Speaker 1>message like can we tape later? I did not even see.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like of course, and I did not press

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<v Speaker 1>answer was like, oh that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes technology is not on our side. It does not

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<v Speaker 2>want us to be great.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. But that's the kind of confience. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of communication you have, Like hey, if you would

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<v Speaker 1>have said, hey, tip, can we tape on Wednesday? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, Wednesdays, as y'all know, are my day's light

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<v Speaker 1>and Fridays are my days off. But we've done some

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday and Friday tapings because it's like, well, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you need? Like how can I let in your load?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like so we're like I think that's really

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<v Speaker 1>one of the keys is too, is that like having

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with the people that are affected, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because people are more than willing to accommodate you in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment in time, like you know, if it's if

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible, if I can't do it. Now. I can

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<v Speaker 1>do this. I can give you my Wednesday, I can

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<v Speaker 1>give you my Friday. I can yeah. So just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just grateful. But I'm sure in two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be crying again. But you know that's just how it.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me two minutes, I know, haven't. I'm gonna stop talking,

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<v Speaker 2>probably will start.

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<v Speaker 1>No girl. Last week I was like, I create I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a pre school teacher again. We're the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to deal with babies. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you want to deal with parents during COVID times though

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<v Speaker 2>I doesn't, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, I was thinking. I was like that sucks. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to sing ABC's and the numbers in the shapes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so much easier, just bring it simple.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah kids. Though I did not realize. I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I love my kid and no one else's kid. But

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<v Speaker 2>I genuinely have every kid I meet, especially the kids

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<v Speaker 2>in my neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like. I like I like them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, They're so nice to talk to and just have

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<v Speaker 2>a and just get a hug and just bounce and

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<v Speaker 2>have like a lollipop like I see what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about like preschool, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>could hang out with Sydney down the street and just

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<v Speaker 2>talk about unicorns for twenty minutes. And that.

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<v Speaker 1>Health care also like so awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Like do we we we we don't give kids enough

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<v Speaker 2>credit And I feel so like such a mom right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like, I don't know, working with children

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<v Speaker 2>is such a it's something. It's something I never really

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<v Speaker 2>had wanted to do, you know, because I think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>because my childhood wasn't so great, so I just assumed

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was whatever. But yeah, it's it's so therapeutic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is. That's why you see. I'd be like Caro,

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<v Speaker 1>drop my kids off, Roman and a million because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's such a great because one, I know

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be wild. I call them the crazies. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like the crazies. She's like crazy. I'm like, well drop

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<v Speaker 1>them off because, like, you know, the energy there is

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<v Speaker 1>just like they bring life to the house.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no time to or exact worry about big problems,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and like it's YouTube channel has is not updating,

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<v Speaker 2>like where's my next toy show?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>This girl cheese is too hot?

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, can you put an inter refrigerator? Okay, it's too cold,

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>now can you warm it out? I'm like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to he already know. Roman was eat that

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<v Speaker 1>damn rice. That's all he will eat the yellow Uncle

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<v Speaker 1>Ben's rice. I'm like, Roman, you're gonna turn into rice.

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>He said, that's all I want me. Well, a Milia

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<v Speaker 1>is like y'all got ribs? Oh my god? Yo. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just but do you see even the joy it

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>brings like talking about yes, like yeah, so you should.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just encourage everybody who's listening to pinpoint like a

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<v Speaker 1>space for me. It's like my nieces and my nephew

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<v Speaker 1>that like, whenever things are really overwhelming and I need

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<v Speaker 1>to leave it at the door, that like I will

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<v Speaker 1>go see them because I know I can't think about

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. And so, but pinpointing for you, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>the beach, you know, maybe it's a walk, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite podcast. I'm brown ambition, leave a great review

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<v Speaker 1>right if they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing it right now, and they're like, shit, I came

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<v Speaker 2>here to escape my depression and all they're doing is

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Well.

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<v Speaker 1>No, let's talk about something happy. So I I was

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of pivoting that I'm doing now business.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to like touch upon like the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of pivoting. Right, So y'all know, I have this online

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<v Speaker 1>school call the Literature Academy. And for me, although we

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<v Speaker 1>were like now and then, we have like forty or

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand students and people will tell me I love

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<v Speaker 1>the Academy. I love the Academy. The teacher in me

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I gave the Academy a C plus B minus,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning like I knew we could do better because I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like we were adhering to like one type of

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<v Speaker 1>learner who was super autonomous, like girl like I got this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, like a mandy like, girl, bye,

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<v Speaker 1>give me my stuff. I got it right. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just was like, well, what about the person that needs

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<v Speaker 1>the handholding. I felt like we were we were letting

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<v Speaker 1>that woman down, you know, and I just couldn't put

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<v Speaker 1>my finger on how So we're pivoting in that we

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<v Speaker 1>will still have the autonomis component of the Academy, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like a library, all these amazing classes. You can take,

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<v Speaker 1>pick the books off the shelf, do what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do, but I'm creating this twelve step path program

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<v Speaker 1>that will lead you to what I call a richer life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know at the end. So it's very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>like my Get Good with Money, like the ten Steps

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<v Speaker 1>to financial hollness, but I just added and with the

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<v Speaker 1>ten steps, I added mindset on the front end and

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<v Speaker 1>philanthropy on the back end to make it twelve steps.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like mindset, budgeting, savings, that credit, learning to earn, insurance,

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<v Speaker 1>investing your money, team, estate planning, and philanthropy. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>these twelve steps. And what I love is I've been

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<v Speaker 1>reaching out to different financial educators who can teach the

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<v Speaker 1>complete step because before with the academy, you could take

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<v Speaker 1>and it still will be there, like you could take

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<v Speaker 1>a credit course that's forty five minutes, but I realized

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>everyone doesn't have that capacity. So now it's like, you

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>could take this credit course that's like eight modules and

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<v Speaker 1>each of the videos is under five minutes. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I feel like, Yes, like, so we still have

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<v Speaker 1>the If you're like Mandy, you're like gir I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need all that. Just I could take my class. I'm done,

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm autonomous. But if you're like, actually I want the breadcrumbing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're finally adding that in and it's just it feels

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<v Speaker 1>so good, Like I just wanted to share that that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you might be in a spot where business or

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<v Speaker 1>life where the pivot is necessary. We're like, do I

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<v Speaker 1>need to add on? Do I need to shift? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling Tracy, she was saying how she's very

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<v Speaker 1>particular my sister who is a publicist. Right, so she's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing it for like a year and some change

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<v Speaker 1>and she's been slaying, but she's very particular about the

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<v Speaker 1>client she takes on because she said, everyone thinks they

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<v Speaker 1>need a publicist, but she won't take your money if

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't think you're ready, because she's like, that's not fair,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I know if I pitch you, the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is going to be null because they know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not ready. So she struggled with that, like, well

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<v Speaker 1>what do I do because I literally have hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>people who are like I want to work with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know because she has my other sister, Carol,

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<v Speaker 1>who's like, this researcher will research your full brand and

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<v Speaker 1>it says she will assess the likelihood of you getting

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<v Speaker 1>press and if she thinks it's not likely they won't

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<v Speaker 1>take you on, which I love, but she said, as

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<v Speaker 1>a result, you know, I feel like I could have

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of people signed up, but I'm saying, no, what

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<v Speaker 1>do I do? I said, well, what's the intermediary between

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<v Speaker 1>the person who's ready to be pitched for press and

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<v Speaker 1>the person who needs some work? You know? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a product in between? And she was like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, you already have done this deep dive research.

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you sharing it with folks? She's like yeah, I'm like, well,

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>why is that not a thing that like it's a product?

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<v Speaker 1>So she started to do coaching now, and she's like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gone so well that she does. She does coaching

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<v Speaker 1>where you have to do at least three sessions and

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<v Speaker 1>so they do this deep dive and they say, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the way you can tweak and fix your brand to

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<v Speaker 1>make it ready and even too, here's some ways that

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<v Speaker 1>you can start to get pressed, at least preliminarily for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said that has been going so well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just proud of her for that pivot where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm doing you know, level Z is my main business,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm leaving out people a through y what do

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<v Speaker 1>I do? And so she created this coaching program like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm sharing that because I'm just like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>seeing those pivots, like in all of my my friends

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>who you know, post pandemic, post quarantined, Like okay, like

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I saw my friend Lovey. She pivoted from she used

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<v Speaker 1>to make most of her money from speaking engagements, but

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<v Speaker 1>now she started this like Mighty Networks, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>a community that you pay I think, I don't know

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>if it's like twenty bucks a month or whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>like she created a community where, like some of the

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<v Speaker 1>resources that she was giving away, she realized that people

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>really want a deeper die, so she created a community

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>where she connects on a daily basis with that community.

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>So she realized, like, okay, I had to pivot from

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<v Speaker 1>just speaking engagements to providing additional access of community to me.

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 1>And so it just so if you're listening, sometimes we

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>bang our head against like, well, this is the way

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>we know, this is the way we know, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like there are offsets and offshoots you can do of

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<v Speaker 1>what you're currently doing, and sometimes it's just a completely

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<v Speaker 1>total like a total, like you know, one sixty, one

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<v Speaker 1>eighty or whatever, three sixty pivot totally, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you not to be afraid to pivot to see

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<v Speaker 1>is this the only way I could go about doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there something I can add on? If am I

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<v Speaker 1>leaving out people who still need services and help? Can

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I provide that for those folks? I mean, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just encourage that because I mean there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stress with Tracy because she was just like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just I'm not finding new clients, not

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>because people are not interested, but I just can't see

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>myself taking money from people who are not ready. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like, don't not in the because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not fair. But now look now those very people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, this coaching is so amazing, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>like so geeked by the fact that, like I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you never know this might be the

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<v Speaker 1>thing you really do, like you maybe only have four

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>clients and then the rest of the people come through

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>in this way, and so like, yeah, I just like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know, as you're as you're working through

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>your business man and you're figuring out like, Okay, what

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>is my like core base and what am I pivoting to? So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's new in Bisland for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh oh yeah, A lot is new. But the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>thing is that ever since July, I've been doing one

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<v Speaker 2>on one career coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just to pay it forward.

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<v Speaker 2>And first of all, I wanted to just talk to women.

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Most of my followers on Instagram are women of color.

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 2>And I posted in July, you know, are you interested

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>in free coach free career coaching with Mandy with me?

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>And I posted a form and I posted a form

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<v Speaker 2>and I had over two hundred people within the first

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight hours sign up. And then I was like, oh, snap,

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 2>well what am I going to do? So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of created a calendar system and all that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been trying to do a couple of sessions

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<v Speaker 2>a day and we're ramping up. At this point, I've

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<v Speaker 2>done about forty sessions, which doesn't sound like a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's forty forty women and I have eighty two

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<v Speaker 2>more scheduled by the end of the year. And it

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 2>hurt because, you know, when I was sick and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my funk, I had to reschedule a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them. But it has been so fulfilling and

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<v Speaker 2>it's free, it's a half hour. And no, I'm not

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 2>taking any new applicants right now. I can't, but it

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<v Speaker 2>has been And the reason that I put that form

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<v Speaker 2>up and I made it, you know, detail like you

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<v Speaker 2>had to put why you're interested in talking to me

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 2>when you're looking to leave your job? What do you

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 2>need help with to fill out a form? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like there wasn't one poor quality applicant.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all and the women.

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<v Speaker 2>That I get to talk to when I tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's almost in a lot of them listening to

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Brian Ambition obviously. So it's literally like I've had I've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten to talk to our fans every day. I try

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>to just I'm awkward, so I'm like, yeah, forget who

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<v Speaker 2>I am. So it's come a much of career and

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 2>the women, I I mean inspiring on another level and

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<v Speaker 2>so like it just fills me up. It feels and

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this feels good.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I do this?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I have been doing those and I am

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<v Speaker 2>in the process of building out I've launched my I

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<v Speaker 2>launched my just Quit toolkit, back around the same time

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<v Speaker 2>or on my birthday in early August, and that's been

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<v Speaker 2>downloaded nearly two thousand times and amazing. Yeah, and it's

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 2>it's been really helping people. It's you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>twelve page free download. And when I'm what I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>is I've leaned into this whole and I'm just owning

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<v Speaker 2>my recipe for wealth building and my recipe for career success,

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 2>which has been to actively quit whenever I decided that

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>I found a new opportunity that paid better or offer

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>me better careers prospects. And I talk about quitting seven

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<v Speaker 2>times in ten years and how there's a stigma around

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<v Speaker 2>job hopping and how that really only benefits employers, but

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 2>it actually is not true because job hopping I think

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>helps every wom in the end. But anyhow, so I

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<v Speaker 2>had the just quit toolkit. Now I'm working on quit

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>your Way Rich course, Yeah, which is going to be

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>I know, I feel like, oh course, but no, literally,

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be. I mean, you talk about modules,

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>a ton of different modules, but everything from you know,

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>passively job searching, I mean, and the women that I

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>talk to every day, the questions that they're asking me,

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I know, I have so much to say and so

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<v Speaker 2>much to offer, and I talking to women every day

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of as my focus group. I know exactly, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what the challenges are and it's just been so

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>that's what I've that's what I'm focusing on. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>bit I'm not gonna stay behind because you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>where I need to be. But because of that those

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks of downtime, but that's my focus. I'm I've

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 2>stepped away from the consulting because you know, that was

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 2>my first that was my bread and butter. Yeah, you know,

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 2>doing consulting, which is one of the modules. That's my

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 2>course is going to be how to become a consultant.

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, how to leverage your professional how to do

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing for an employer and do it for

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 2>way more money on your own and not report to anybody,

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 2>which is a lot of the women I talk to

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>you they want to like consult and you know what

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the secret is that it's you just have to call

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>yourself a consultant and that's all you have to do.

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Now honestly, that is all like it's the pivot, Like

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I love that I was taught. I did like a

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>live the other day where I talked about in the beginning,

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of hustling up, you know, because you're like, Okay,

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I know I can make money like this, so we

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>got to pay these bills. Let's get to a stable.

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>We're paying bills. But then in the back of your

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>mind you kind of have like this is really I

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>think I want to adapt and so but it's okay.

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.239
<v Speaker 1>In the beginning, I think people feel like if I'm

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>not working in my passion right away, something's wrong. It's like, no, exis,

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>bills must be paid. So no, that's sounds exciting. I

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>can't wait for it to be done so you could

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>share it with us so we can.

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's funny. I was up till like three am,

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>like just having a manic episode, you know, planning, and

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I was like, get feeling better. So I was like,

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I got to buy domains and I got to look

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>at webinar options and da da da, And then I

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, I actually listened to a module of your

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Literature Academy where you I think it was recent because

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, she talked about this on the podcast, but

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about building a movement and everything. It was

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>nice to listen to you. It was I felt so

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>weird because I'm like, I could just call, but why not.

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>She's already created this. Why don't I just listen to

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 2>and what she got to say? And you talked about

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 2>building a movement and your dream catchers and dream builders,

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, yeah, I have to. I want

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 2>to create a community too, because for me, I don't

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>just want it to be that art, you know, just

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 2>have a course out there and then here you go,

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 2>go get it and I'm not going to ever be around.

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I like personal connection. I like talking to women about

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 2>whatever is going on their lives and my life, you know,

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 2>and anyway, So I'm trying to create a community. And

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 2>also I know the two hundred women that I've that

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 2>i'm in the process of talking to, like they I'm like,

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you guys need to talk to each other because I'm

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 2>talking to people in the same like the same industries,

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm already thinking like, oh, but I talked to

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 2>like Ashley last week, who's also in and these are

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 2>women who were like in VP level, director level, these

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 2>are big jobs and anyway, so I'm like, if I

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>could create a community where yes, I'm available, but also

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 2>they can lean on one another. I think that could

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>be really powerful. But what was funny is I'm like,

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 2>what the hell am I going to call them? Like

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany calls them dream builders and like, you know what

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 2>is Mariah Carey calls hers lambs like Lady Gaga your monsters.

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, are we going to be the quitters?

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Is that going to be our name? Like we're the Quitters?

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>But that's inspiration, like you'll think of something, You'll think

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>of something. Yes, honestly, I love this pivot for you.

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>And right one of the things I talked about in

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that course about building a community that you know, you

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>truly have a community when they don't lean solely or

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 1>even mostly on you, they lean on each other. That's

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>how you know, you don't you know, Like yeah, no,

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>oh this is really like this is awesome. I think,

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I I know we have it sometimes, you know, we

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>we we talk about like our lives and things like that.

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's nice to also, like, you know, dip in

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and chat about business because I know so many of

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys are starting businesses or wanted to start businesses,

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>or just curious about how does it all go? And

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>so we try to make you know, especially now that

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Mandy has come onto the business. We'll have more about that. Well,

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>in the interest of time, I think it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>segment to boost break Oh boost, break on boost, don't

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<v Speaker 1>break on?

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<v Speaker 2>Booze?

0:36:55.360 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh break? Are you gunn a booze? Breaks? Like clap?

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, clap clap, clap, clap, clap, clap.

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Clap, clap, clap, clap to snap, snap, snap, snap, because

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I have to clap. I have to clap like around

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>my mic. It's awkward.

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, Mandy, are you gonna boost that you get?

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I am going to do a boost and a very

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 2>a simple boost. And this is one of the things

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 2>like I've been doing this, uh, these mentorship career conversations

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 2>for so long. I don't know if you guys know this,

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 2>but on LinkedIn, and this is one of my keys

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 2>to passively job searching. It's almost like it's it's like formulating, yes,

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 2>your LinkedIn profile is important. But there's this new button

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 2>that you can click on LinkedIn called the open to

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 2>work button. So if you go to your profile on

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 2>LinkedIn right now and you look underneath your photo and

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 2>your and your title, there's a button that says open too,

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 2>and then you click that and you can actually this

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 2>signals to recruiters and they can filter. Because I feel

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>like and when I was recruiting as a hiring manager,

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 2>LinkedIn was my preferred tool of choice. I think it's wonderful.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 2>A lot of recruiters are using LinkedIn as a tool

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>to recruit. But now if you say you're open to work,

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 2>they can actually see, oh, this person's actually available, like

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I might have a shot at getting a response.

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 2>So I really encourage the women I'm talking to to

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 2>actually go to LinkedIn and turn on their open to

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>work signal, and LinkedIn will do its best to hide

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I know some people are like, like, worried, oh what

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>if my boss sees that I'm open to personally, I

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 2>think let them know, like, let them know that you're

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 2>keeping your options open. But if you're worried about that,

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 2>LinkedIn will they say they will try their best to

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>hide that from people who work at your company, and

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>then especially people on the recruiting side who work at

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 2>your company. So there is a bit of that. You

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 2>can look at your privacy settings, but I think it's

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 2>a just simple way to do it. And this is

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 2>the key though, when you put open to work, and

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I've actually talked to women, I'm like, tell me what'd

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>you say you were open to? And they may be

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>open to only titles that they've already had or previous titles.

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, be sure that you are open to and

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 2>looking into, like what is the next level for you

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 2>and what are those job titles? Because you want to

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 2>be available, you know for recruiters who are searching for

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 2>those roles. And some of the women I've talked to,

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:21.919
<v Speaker 2>you know, they haven't been reaching or aiming high enough

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to their title and open to work.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 2>So that's my my career tip, and I think it's wonderful,

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 2>my little my little career boost.

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, my boost is super simple too. So I just

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>found out. Let me check, actually, let me check right now.

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>We at we were at author my author portal, So

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I got some really amazing Yes, isn't that crazy? So

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I have officially sold, which is so crazy, I'm gonna

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 1>pull I'm pulling up b like so when you well,

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it is with other publishers, but

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>for example, Penguin, of course my computers, like I think,

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>so Penguin allows you to have, like to see, like

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 1>how much you've sold. So I've sold one hundred thousand, Well,

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>yea like one hundred thousand copies, like one hundred and

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 1>like two thousand copies, No, one hundred and two, one

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred two thousand copies. But there's basically over one hundred

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand copies. I hit that. That that benchmark, I'm going

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to say Friday, you know, so a few days ago.

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. It took me a while to

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<v Speaker 1>like cause I was like, okay, is that good? I mean,

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I know it's good, but I didn't know how well.

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 1>So I did a little Google. I was like, how

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 1>many books sell one hundred thousand copies in there in

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 1>a year?

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 2>So it said how many personal finance books? Sorry? I

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 2>know so typically in personal finance books, Okay.

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>There are million, Like there are literally millions and millions

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and millions of books that are selling annually, and about

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>two hundred of them will ever sell one hundred thousand

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 1>copies in a year. But then it whittles down further

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that of the two hundred one twenty are books that

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>have already been out there, meaning like the Bible is

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>still selling one hundred thousand copies a year, Rich Dad,

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Poor Dad. You know those types of books like The Secret.

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 1>So really, there are about one million new books that

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 1>launch annually, and of those one million new books that

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>launch annually, only about eighty sell over one hundred thousand.

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's like wow, like a quarter of one percent.

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 1>And I was just like wow, Tiffany, because I'm not

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>really one for soaking things in. I'm like, okay, okay,

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 1>next thing. And I was like, no, no, I want

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you to soak in that you sold one hundred thousand

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.839
<v Speaker 1>copies plus of your book in seven months, not even

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>in twelve months and seven months, Tiffany, like that's not

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a small thing. You guys have just like shown up

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 1>fully for this book. And I just and if you're like,

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 1>what book? Get good with Money? Hello, because some people

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>might be like, I'm new what book? So I wrote

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a book gego with money and the fact that it

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 1>was on the list for eight weeks. I'm actually going

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to have a party. I told myself I'm having a party.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have it probably the first or the

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<v Speaker 1>second week in December. I want to cater it like

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<v Speaker 1>a party party, yes, because I'm talking about I want

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<v Speaker 1>to invite. Literally, I'll figure out what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm you know, some of y'all be invited. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it'll be ours VP, and so it's not invite only,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly ours VP. So we can have a cap

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to have a party with the DJ

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<v Speaker 1>and food because I never marked the time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I never stamp. I'm like, this is a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal to me. You wrote this book, get it with money.

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<v Speaker 1>You poured your heart into it. You wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that it really was a guide for especially women,

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<v Speaker 1>especially brown women, a guide to work them through the

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<v Speaker 1>most basic parts of personal finance to the complicated components

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<v Speaker 1>of personal finance and these ten steps. You did it.

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<v Speaker 1>You made the list, you stayed on it for eight weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>You sold one hundred thousand copies. Girl, it's deserving up

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<v Speaker 1>a party, and so we're having a party, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I just, yeah, I just wanted to boost that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm so excited, first of all for the one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred k. The second of all, because you really don't

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<v Speaker 2>throw parties. I don't barely had a party for your

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<v Speaker 2>own wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, I did it. Literally my wedding was we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Justice Piece and we're gonna have to like

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<v Speaker 1>a lunch at like my friends. I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. I'm just not one

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<v Speaker 1>for like stamping like you know, accomplishments or stamping like

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, stop, We're not doing that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you feel like you can't or

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't, but I'm like, no, We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>Dagon party, Tiffany. We're gonna have a really good time

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to remember and think back like this was.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a joyful, momentous occasion, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, so I'm just excited about that. I just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to share that as a boost that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's something that I I Yeah, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap my mind around because you know, the number

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<v Speaker 1>is one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the jk Rowling a personal final.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so crazy, like it's all my vision

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm looking at my vision board now. It said

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand copies sold. I didn't say when, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a New York Times bestseller and I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm gonna need a bigger vision board I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, don't worry. We're gonna have a party. We're

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<v Speaker 1>go party so hard that I'm gonna I'm gonna slip

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<v Speaker 1>into my crop halfway through so my feet could be comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>That card of party.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so freaking excited for you and will continue to

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<v Speaker 2>be so proud, so proud to know you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. If you want to get the book, get

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<v Speaker 1>go with money dot Com. Somebody I'll be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you forgot your commercial, Tiffany. I would be shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>If anyone listening right now, you should be ashamed of

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<v Speaker 2>yourselves and listen. If you haven't gotten the book yet,

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not go get the book. Go to your local

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<v Speaker 2>target yep. And if you don't, you check the Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Ramsey book because I might have put hers over it

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<v Speaker 2>that I love like Westchester Target yea dot com. Well

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<v Speaker 2>we're back. I'm so glad to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go, and don't forget guys. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just one of two episodes that we do weekly.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're actually about to go tape our Q and

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<v Speaker 1>a episode for Friday's drop. So keep your Q and

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<v Speaker 1>as pouring on in share, you know, copy and paste

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got friends in business or otherwise, copy paste

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<v Speaker 1>the link to wherever you're watching this and share in

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<v Speaker 1>your group chat, like let's get this, let's get our

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we would love to just ex we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of celebrating, we have not had a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate with ba fam Our iHeartRadio Best Business Podcast Award.

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<v Speaker 1>Not we have to think about how we gonna sell it.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to have dinner something, because we had a

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<v Speaker 1>fun dinner before.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to invite us to LA. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that I would live Heart Media Awards, but no,

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<v Speaker 2>we are up against Earn Your Leisure, which doesn't even

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<v Speaker 2>feel like competition. Just friends, just bros.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I built this, how I built that?

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<v Speaker 2>My husband was like, what he actually listens to that podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Not mine, but he listens to That's crazy Guy Raz,

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<v Speaker 2>the one and only. Yes, We're up in the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was something else too. Is it a planet

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<v Speaker 1>money which is huge, NPR's planet.

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<v Speaker 2>One of planet I don't know if it's plenty of money,

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<v Speaker 2>one of NPR shows and then a Bloomberg show, so legit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, not that we needed anyone else's like validation,

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<v Speaker 2>but it feels damn damn good we would be recognized.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels really good to be recognized, and it feels like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, everything is right on time. But I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we deserve it. Are thousand percent. Thank y'all. Thank y'all

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<v Speaker 2>for rocking with us, and you know, continuing to support

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<v Speaker 2>the show because yeah, we put everything into it.

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<v Speaker 1>We do all right, y'all until next week. We'll really

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<v Speaker 1>until Friday. See until Brian, you had to be a

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<v Speaker 1>q A