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Speaker 1: look like? For me? What does more alignment look like

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Speaker 1: for me? You know, it's that communication like you know,

428
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,159
Speaker 1: like Mandy, I'm so sorry man, you teckt me that

429
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 1: message like can we tape later? I did not even see.

430
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 1: I was like of course, and I did not press

431
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: answer was like, oh that's okay.

432
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes technology is not on our side. It does not

433
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 2: want us to be great.

434
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Speaker 1: You know. But that's the kind of confience. That's the

435
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 1: kind of communication you have, Like hey, if you would

436
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Speaker 1: have said, hey, tip, can we tape on Wednesday? Like,

437
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 1: for example, Wednesdays, as y'all know, are my day's light

438
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 1: and Fridays are my days off. But we've done some

439
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,439
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday tapings because it's like, well, what do

440
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 1: you need? Like how can I let in your load?

441
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 1: You know, like so we're like I think that's really

442
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Speaker 1: one of the keys is too, is that like having

443
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Speaker 1: conversations with the people that are affected, and you know,

444
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 1: because people are more than willing to accommodate you in

445
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: that moment in time, like you know, if it's if

446
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 1: it's possible, if I can't do it. Now. I can

447
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,479
Speaker 1: do this. I can give you my Wednesday, I can

448
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 1: give you my Friday. I can yeah. So just yeah,

449
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: so I'm just grateful. But I'm sure in two weeks

450
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: I'll be crying again. But you know that's just how it.

451
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: Give me two minutes, I know, haven't. I'm gonna stop talking,

452
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: probably will start.

453
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: No girl. Last week I was like, I create I'm

454
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a pre school teacher again. We're the kids.

455
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with babies. I don't think

456
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 2: you want to deal with parents during COVID times though

457
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: I doesn't, I.

458
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: Know, I was thinking. I was like that sucks. But

459
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I don't know. I

460
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: just want to sing ABC's and the numbers in the shapes.

461
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 1: It was so much easier, just bring it simple.

462
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 2: Yeah kids. Though I did not realize. I thought, oh,

463
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 2: I love my kid and no one else's kid. But

464
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: I genuinely have every kid I meet, especially the kids

465
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Speaker 2: in my neighborhood.

466
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: I really like. I like I like them.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, They're so nice to talk to and just have

468
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: a and just get a hug and just bounce and

469
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 2: have like a lollipop like I see what you're saying.

470
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: I don't know about like preschool, but you know, I

471
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: could hang out with Sydney down the street and just

472
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 2: talk about unicorns for twenty minutes. And that.

473
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Speaker 1: Health care also like so awesome.

474
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Speaker 2: Like do we we we we don't give kids enough

475
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: credit And I feel so like such a mom right now.

476
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: But I feel like, I don't know, working with children

477
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: is such a it's something. It's something I never really

478
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 2: had wanted to do, you know, because I think maybe

479
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: because my childhood wasn't so great, so I just assumed

480
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 2: everyone was whatever. But yeah, it's it's so therapeutic.

481
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. That's why you see. I'd be like Caro,

482
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: drop my kids off, Roman and a million because it's like,

483
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's such a great because one, I know

484
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna be wild. I call them the crazies. I'm

485
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: like the crazies. She's like crazy. I'm like, well drop

486
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: them off because, like, you know, the energy there is

487
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 1: just like they bring life to the house.

488
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: There's no time to or exact worry about big problems,

489
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 2: you know, and like it's YouTube channel has is not updating,

490
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 2: like where's my next toy show?

491
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 1: Exactly?

492
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: This girl cheese is too hot?

493
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: Exactly, can you put an inter refrigerator? Okay, it's too cold,

494
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: now can you warm it out? I'm like, what do

495
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Speaker 1: you want to he already know. Roman was eat that

496
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: damn rice. That's all he will eat the yellow Uncle

497
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: Ben's rice. I'm like, Roman, you're gonna turn into rice.

498
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: He said, that's all I want me. Well, a Milia

499
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: is like y'all got ribs? Oh my god? Yo. So

500
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: it's just but do you see even the joy it

501
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: brings like talking about yes, like yeah, so you should.

502
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: I'm just encourage everybody who's listening to pinpoint like a

503
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: space for me. It's like my nieces and my nephew

504
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: that like, whenever things are really overwhelming and I need

505
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: to leave it at the door, that like I will

506
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: go see them because I know I can't think about

507
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: anything else. And so, but pinpointing for you, maybe it's

508
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: the beach, you know, maybe it's a walk, maybe it's

509
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: your favorite podcast. I'm brown ambition, leave a great review

510
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: right if they're.

511
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: Doing it right now, and they're like, shit, I came

512
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: here to escape my depression and all they're doing is

513
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: talking about Well.

514
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: No, let's talk about something happy. So I I was

515
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pivoting that I'm doing now business.

516
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: I just wanted to like touch upon like the importance

517
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: of pivoting. Right, So y'all know, I have this online

518
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: school call the Literature Academy. And for me, although we

519
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: were like now and then, we have like forty or

520
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: fifty thousand students and people will tell me I love

521
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: the Academy. I love the Academy. The teacher in me

522
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: was like, I gave the Academy a C plus B minus,

523
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: meaning like I knew we could do better because I

524
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: felt like we were adhering to like one type of

525
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: learner who was super autonomous, like girl like I got this,

526
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like a mandy like, girl, bye,

527
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: give me my stuff. I got it right. But I

528
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: just was like, well, what about the person that needs

529
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: the handholding. I felt like we were we were letting

530
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: that woman down, you know, and I just couldn't put

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Speaker 1: my finger on how So we're pivoting in that we

532
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: will still have the autonomis component of the Academy, which

533
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: is like a library, all these amazing classes. You can take,

534
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: pick the books off the shelf, do what you need

535
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: to do, but I'm creating this twelve step path program

536
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: that will lead you to what I call a richer life,

537
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: you know at the end. So it's very similar to

538
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: like my Get Good with Money, like the ten Steps

539
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: to financial hollness, but I just added and with the

540
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: ten steps, I added mindset on the front end and

541
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: philanthropy on the back end to make it twelve steps.

542
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: So it's like mindset, budgeting, savings, that credit, learning to earn, insurance,

543
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: investing your money, team, estate planning, and philanthropy. So it's

544
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: these twelve steps. And what I love is I've been

545
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: reaching out to different financial educators who can teach the

546
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: complete step because before with the academy, you could take

547
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: and it still will be there, like you could take

548
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: a credit course that's forty five minutes, but I realized

549
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: everyone doesn't have that capacity. So now it's like, you

550
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: could take this credit course that's like eight modules and

551
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: each of the videos is under five minutes. So that's

552
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: what I feel like, Yes, like, so we still have

553
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: the If you're like Mandy, you're like gir I don't

554
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: need all that. Just I could take my class. I'm done,

555
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm autonomous. But if you're like, actually I want the breadcrumbing.

556
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: We're finally adding that in and it's just it feels

557
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: so good, Like I just wanted to share that that,

558
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: Like you might be in a spot where business or

559
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: life where the pivot is necessary. We're like, do I

560
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: need to add on? Do I need to shift? Like

561
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: I was telling Tracy, she was saying how she's very

562
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: particular my sister who is a publicist. Right, so she's

563
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: been doing it for like a year and some change

564
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: and she's been slaying, but she's very particular about the

565
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: client she takes on because she said, everyone thinks they

566
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: need a publicist, but she won't take your money if

567
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: she doesn't think you're ready, because she's like, that's not fair,

568
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: you know, like I know if I pitch you, the

569
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: answer is going to be null because they know that

570
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 1: you're not ready. So she struggled with that, like, well

571
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: what do I do because I literally have hundreds of

572
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: people who are like I want to work with you.

573
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: But I know because she has my other sister, Carol,

574
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: who's like, this researcher will research your full brand and

575
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 1: it says she will assess the likelihood of you getting

576
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: press and if she thinks it's not likely they won't

577
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: take you on, which I love, but she said, as

578
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: a result, you know, I feel like I could have

579
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: hundreds of people signed up, but I'm saying, no, what

580
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: do I do? I said, well, what's the intermediary between

581
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: the person who's ready to be pitched for press and

582
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: the person who needs some work? You know? Is there

583
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: a product in between? And she was like, I don't know.

584
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you already have done this deep dive research.

585
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: Are you sharing it with folks? She's like yeah, I'm like, well,

586
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: why is that not a thing that like it's a product?

587
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: So she started to do coaching now, and she's like, girl,

588
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: it's gone so well that she does. She does coaching

589
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: where you have to do at least three sessions and

590
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: so they do this deep dive and they say, here's

591
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: the way you can tweak and fix your brand to

592
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: make it ready and even too, here's some ways that

593
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: you can start to get pressed, at least preliminarily for yourself.

594
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: And she said that has been going so well, and

595
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm just proud of her for that pivot where it's

596
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: like I'm doing you know, level Z is my main business,

597
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: but I'm leaving out people a through y what do

598
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: I do? And so she created this coaching program like

599
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm sharing that because I'm just like I'm

600
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: seeing those pivots, like in all of my my friends

601
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: who you know, post pandemic, post quarantined, Like okay, like

602
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: I saw my friend Lovey. She pivoted from she used

603
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: to make most of her money from speaking engagements, but

604
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: now she started this like Mighty Networks, which is like

605
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: a community that you pay I think, I don't know

606
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: if it's like twenty bucks a month or whatever, but

607
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: like she created a community where, like some of the

608
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: resources that she was giving away, she realized that people

609
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: really want a deeper die, so she created a community

610
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: where she connects on a daily basis with that community.

611
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: So she realized, like, okay, I had to pivot from

612
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: just speaking engagements to providing additional access of community to me.

613
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: And so it just so if you're listening, sometimes we

614
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: bang our head against like, well, this is the way

615
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: we know, this is the way we know, and it's

616
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: like there are offsets and offshoots you can do of

617
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: what you're currently doing, and sometimes it's just a completely

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00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: total like a total, like you know, one sixty, one

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00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: eighty or whatever, three sixty pivot totally, but I just

620
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: encourage you not to be afraid to pivot to see

621
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: is this the only way I could go about doing this?

622
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 1: Is there something I can add on? If am I

623
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: leaving out people who still need services and help? Can

624
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: I provide that for those folks? I mean, yeah, I

625
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: just I just encourage that because I mean there was

626
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: a lot of stress with Tracy because she was just like, wow,

627
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, I just I'm not finding new clients, not

628
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: because people are not interested, but I just can't see

629
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: myself taking money from people who are not ready. And

630
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: then I was like, don't not in the because that's

631
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: not fair. But now look now those very people are like,

632
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this coaching is so amazing, and she's

633
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: like so geeked by the fact that, like I'm like,

634
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: I think that you never know this might be the

635
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: thing you really do, like you maybe only have four

636
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: clients and then the rest of the people come through

637
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: in this way, and so like, yeah, I just like

638
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, I know, as you're as you're working through

639
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Speaker 1: your business man and you're figuring out like, Okay, what

640
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: is my like core base and what am I pivoting to? So, like,

641
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: what's what's new in Bisland for you?

642
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: Ooh oh yeah, A lot is new. But the biggest

643
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: thing is that ever since July, I've been doing one

644
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: on one career coaching.

645
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just to pay it forward.

646
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: And first of all, I wanted to just talk to women.

647
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: Most of my followers on Instagram are women of color.

648
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: And I posted in July, you know, are you interested

649
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: in free coach free career coaching with Mandy with me?

650
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: And I posted a form and I posted a form

651
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: and I had over two hundred people within the first

652
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: forty eight hours sign up. And then I was like, oh, snap,

653
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: well what am I going to do? So, you know,

654
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: I kind of created a calendar system and all that,

655
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: and I've been trying to do a couple of sessions

656
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: a day and we're ramping up. At this point, I've

657
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: done about forty sessions, which doesn't sound like a lot,

658
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: but that's forty forty women and I have eighty two

659
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: more scheduled by the end of the year. And it

660
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: hurt because, you know, when I was sick and then

661
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: I was in my funk, I had to reschedule a

662
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: lot of them. But it has been so fulfilling and

663
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: it's free, it's a half hour. And no, I'm not

664
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: taking any new applicants right now. I can't, but it

665
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: has been And the reason that I put that form

666
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: up and I made it, you know, detail like you

667
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: had to put why you're interested in talking to me

668
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: when you're looking to leave your job? What do you

669
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: need help with to fill out a form? You know?

670
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: And I feel like there wasn't one poor quality applicant.

671
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: It was all and the women.

672
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: That I get to talk to when I tell you,

673
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: like it's almost in a lot of them listening to

674
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: Brian Ambition obviously. So it's literally like I've had I've

675
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: gotten to talk to our fans every day. I try

676
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: to just I'm awkward, so I'm like, yeah, forget who

677
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: I am. So it's come a much of career and

678
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: the women, I I mean inspiring on another level and

679
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: so like it just fills me up. It feels and

680
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, this feels good.

681
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: How do I do this?

682
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: And so I have been doing those and I am

683
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: in the process of building out I've launched my I

684
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: launched my just Quit toolkit, back around the same time

685
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: or on my birthday in early August, and that's been

686
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: downloaded nearly two thousand times and amazing. Yeah, and it's

687
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: it's been really helping people. It's you know, it's a

688
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: twelve page free download. And when I'm what I'm doing

689
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: is I've leaned into this whole and I'm just owning

690
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: my recipe for wealth building and my recipe for career success,

691
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: which has been to actively quit whenever I decided that

692
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: I found a new opportunity that paid better or offer

693
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: me better careers prospects. And I talk about quitting seven

694
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: times in ten years and how there's a stigma around

695
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: job hopping and how that really only benefits employers, but

696
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: it actually is not true because job hopping I think

697
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: helps every wom in the end. But anyhow, so I

698
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: had the just quit toolkit. Now I'm working on quit

699
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: your Way Rich course, Yeah, which is going to be

700
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: I know, I feel like, oh course, but no, literally,

701
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: it's going to be. I mean, you talk about modules,

702
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: a ton of different modules, but everything from you know,

703
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: passively job searching, I mean, and the women that I

704
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: talk to every day, the questions that they're asking me,

705
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: I know, I have so much to say and so

706
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: much to offer, and I talking to women every day

707
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 2: kind of as my focus group. I know exactly, you

708
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 2: know what the challenges are and it's just been so

709
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: that's what I've that's what I'm focusing on. I'm a

710
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: bit I'm not gonna stay behind because you know, I'm

711
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: where I need to be. But because of that those

712
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: few weeks of downtime, but that's my focus. I'm I've

713
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: stepped away from the consulting because you know, that was

714
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: my first that was my bread and butter. Yeah, you know,

715
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: doing consulting, which is one of the modules. That's my

716
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: course is going to be how to become a consultant.

717
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: You know, how to leverage your professional how to do

718
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: what you're doing for an employer and do it for

719
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: way more money on your own and not report to anybody,

720
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: which is a lot of the women I talk to

721
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: you they want to like consult and you know what

722
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: the secret is that it's you just have to call

723
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: yourself a consultant and that's all you have to do.

724
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: Now honestly, that is all like it's the pivot, Like

725
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: I love that I was taught. I did like a

726
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: live the other day where I talked about in the beginning,

727
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: you're kind of hustling up, you know, because you're like, Okay,

728
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: I know I can make money like this, so we

729
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: got to pay these bills. Let's get to a stable.

730
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: We're paying bills. But then in the back of your

731
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: mind you kind of have like this is really I

732
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: think I want to adapt and so but it's okay.

733
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 1: In the beginning, I think people feel like if I'm

734
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: not working in my passion right away, something's wrong. It's like, no, exis,

735
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: bills must be paid. So no, that's sounds exciting. I

736
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: can't wait for it to be done so you could

737
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: share it with us so we can.

738
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny. I was up till like three am,

739
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: like just having a manic episode, you know, planning, and

740
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: I was like, get feeling better. So I was like,

741
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: I got to buy domains and I got to look

742
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: at webinar options and da da da, And then I

743
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: was like, I actually listened to a module of your

744
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: Literature Academy where you I think it was recent because

745
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, she talked about this on the podcast, but

746
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: you're talking about building a movement and everything. It was

747
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: nice to listen to you. It was I felt so

748
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: weird because I'm like, I could just call, but why not.

749
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: She's already created this. Why don't I just listen to

750
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: and what she got to say? And you talked about

751
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: building a movement and your dream catchers and dream builders,

752
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, I have to. I want

753
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: to create a community too, because for me, I don't

754
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: just want it to be that art, you know, just

755
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: have a course out there and then here you go,

756
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: go get it and I'm not going to ever be around.

757
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: I like personal connection. I like talking to women about

758
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: whatever is going on their lives and my life, you know,

759
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: and anyway, So I'm trying to create a community. And

760
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: also I know the two hundred women that I've that

761
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: i'm in the process of talking to, like they I'm like,

762
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: you guys need to talk to each other because I'm

763
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: talking to people in the same like the same industries,

764
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: and I'm already thinking like, oh, but I talked to

765
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: like Ashley last week, who's also in and these are

766
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: women who were like in VP level, director level, these

767
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: are big jobs and anyway, so I'm like, if I

768
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: could create a community where yes, I'm available, but also

769
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: they can lean on one another. I think that could

770
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: be really powerful. But what was funny is I'm like,

771
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: what the hell am I going to call them? Like

772
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: Tiffany calls them dream builders and like, you know what

773
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: is Mariah Carey calls hers lambs like Lady Gaga your monsters.

774
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: But I'm like, are we going to be the quitters?

775
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: Is that going to be our name? Like we're the Quitters?

776
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: But that's inspiration, like you'll think of something, You'll think

777
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: of something. Yes, honestly, I love this pivot for you.

778
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: And right one of the things I talked about in

779
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: that course about building a community that you know, you

780
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: truly have a community when they don't lean solely or

781
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: even mostly on you, they lean on each other. That's

782
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: how you know, you don't you know, Like yeah, no,

783
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: oh this is really like this is awesome. I think,

784
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: I I know we have it sometimes, you know, we

785
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: we we talk about like our lives and things like that.

786
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: But it's nice to also, like, you know, dip in

787
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: and chat about business because I know so many of

788
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: you guys are starting businesses or wanted to start businesses,

789
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: or just curious about how does it all go? And

790
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: so we try to make you know, especially now that

791
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: Mandy has come onto the business. We'll have more about that. Well,

792
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: in the interest of time, I think it's time to

793
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: segment to boost break Oh boost, break on boost, don't

794
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: break on?

795
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: Booze?

796
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: Oh break? Are you gunn a booze? Breaks? Like clap?

797
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Wait wait, clap clap, clap, clap, clap, clap.

798
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: Clap, clap, clap, clap to snap, snap, snap, snap, because

799
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: I have to clap. I have to clap like around

800
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: my mic. It's awkward.

801
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: All right, Mandy, are you gonna boost that you get?

802
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: I am going to do a boost and a very

803
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 2: a simple boost. And this is one of the things

804
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: like I've been doing this, uh, these mentorship career conversations

805
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: for so long. I don't know if you guys know this,

806
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: but on LinkedIn, and this is one of my keys

807
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: to passively job searching. It's almost like it's it's like formulating, yes,

808
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: your LinkedIn profile is important. But there's this new button

809
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: that you can click on LinkedIn called the open to

810
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: work button. So if you go to your profile on

811
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: LinkedIn right now and you look underneath your photo and

812
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: your and your title, there's a button that says open too,

813
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: and then you click that and you can actually this

814
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: signals to recruiters and they can filter. Because I feel

815
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: like and when I was recruiting as a hiring manager,

816
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: LinkedIn was my preferred tool of choice. I think it's wonderful.

817
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: A lot of recruiters are using LinkedIn as a tool

818
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: to recruit. But now if you say you're open to work,

819
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: they can actually see, oh, this person's actually available, like

820
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I might have a shot at getting a response.

821
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: So I really encourage the women I'm talking to to

822
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: actually go to LinkedIn and turn on their open to

823
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: work signal, and LinkedIn will do its best to hide

824
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: I know some people are like, like, worried, oh what

825
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: if my boss sees that I'm open to personally, I

826
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: think let them know, like, let them know that you're

827
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: keeping your options open. But if you're worried about that,

828
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: LinkedIn will they say they will try their best to

829
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: hide that from people who work at your company, and

830
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: then especially people on the recruiting side who work at

831
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: your company. So there is a bit of that. You

832
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: can look at your privacy settings, but I think it's

833
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: a just simple way to do it. And this is

834
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: the key though, when you put open to work, and

835
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: I've actually talked to women, I'm like, tell me what'd

836
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: you say you were open to? And they may be

837
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: open to only titles that they've already had or previous titles.

838
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, be sure that you are open to and

839
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: looking into, like what is the next level for you

840
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: and what are those job titles? Because you want to

841
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: be available, you know for recruiters who are searching for

842
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: those roles. And some of the women I've talked to,

843
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: you know, they haven't been reaching or aiming high enough

844
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: when it comes to their title and open to work.

845
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: So that's my my career tip, and I think it's wonderful,

846
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: my little my little career boost.

847
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: Yes, my boost is super simple too. So I just

848
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: found out. Let me check, actually, let me check right now.

849
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: We at we were at author my author portal, So

850
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: I got some really amazing Yes, isn't that crazy? So

851
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Speaker 1: I have officially sold, which is so crazy, I'm gonna

852
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Speaker 1: pull I'm pulling up b like so when you well,

853
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how it is with other publishers, but

854
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: for example, Penguin, of course my computers, like I think,

855
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: so Penguin allows you to have, like to see, like

856
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: how much you've sold. So I've sold one hundred thousand, Well,

857
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: yea like one hundred thousand copies, like one hundred and

858
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: like two thousand copies, No, one hundred and two, one

859
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: hundred two thousand copies. But there's basically over one hundred

860
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: thousand copies. I hit that. That that benchmark, I'm going

861
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: to say Friday, you know, so a few days ago.

862
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It took me a while to

863
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: like cause I was like, okay, is that good? I mean,

864
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: I know it's good, but I didn't know how well.

865
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: So I did a little Google. I was like, how

866
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: many books sell one hundred thousand copies in there in

867
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: a year?

868
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: So it said how many personal finance books? Sorry? I

869
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: know so typically in personal finance books, Okay.

870
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: There are million, Like there are literally millions and millions

871
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: and millions of books that are selling annually, and about

872
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: two hundred of them will ever sell one hundred thousand

873
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: copies in a year. But then it whittles down further

874
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: that of the two hundred one twenty are books that

875
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: have already been out there, meaning like the Bible is

876
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: still selling one hundred thousand copies a year, Rich Dad,

877
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: Poor Dad. You know those types of books like The Secret.

878
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: So really, there are about one million new books that

879
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: launch annually, and of those one million new books that

880
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: launch annually, only about eighty sell over one hundred thousand.

881
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: So it's like wow, like a quarter of one percent.

882
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: And I was just like wow, Tiffany, because I'm not

883
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: really one for soaking things in. I'm like, okay, okay,

884
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: next thing. And I was like, no, no, I want

885
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: you to soak in that you sold one hundred thousand

886
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: copies plus of your book in seven months, not even

887
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: in twelve months and seven months, Tiffany, like that's not

888
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: a small thing. You guys have just like shown up

889
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: fully for this book. And I just and if you're like,

890
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: what book? Get good with Money? Hello, because some people

891
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: might be like, I'm new what book? So I wrote

892
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: a book gego with money and the fact that it

893
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: was on the list for eight weeks. I'm actually going

894
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: to have a party. I told myself I'm having a party.

895
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to have it probably the first or the

896
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: second week in December. I want to cater it like

897
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: a party party, yes, because I'm talking about I want

898
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: to invite. Literally, I'll figure out what it looks like.

899
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: But I'm you know, some of y'all be invited. I'm

900
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: sure it'll be ours VP, and so it's not invite only,

901
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: but certainly ours VP. So we can have a cap

902
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: But I'm going to have a party with the DJ

903
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: and food because I never marked the time, you know,

904
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: like I never stamp. I'm like, this is a big

905
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: deal to me. You wrote this book, get it with money.

906
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: You poured your heart into it. You wanted to make

907
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: sure that it really was a guide for especially women,

908
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: especially brown women, a guide to work them through the

909
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: most basic parts of personal finance to the complicated components

910
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: of personal finance and these ten steps. You did it.

911
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: You made the list, you stayed on it for eight weeks.

912
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: You sold one hundred thousand copies. Girl, it's deserving up

913
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: a party, and so we're having a party, and so

914
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: I just, yeah, I just wanted to boost that.

915
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: Because I'm so excited, first of all for the one

916
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: hundred k. The second of all, because you really don't

917
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: throw parties. I don't barely had a party for your

918
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: own wedding.

919
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: Literally, I did it. Literally my wedding was we're going

920
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: to the Justice Piece and we're gonna have to like

921
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: a lunch at like my friends. I just, you know,

922
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I'm just not one

923
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: for like stamping like you know, accomplishments or stamping like

924
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, stop, We're not doing that anymore.

925
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why you feel like you can't or

926
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: you shouldn't, but I'm like, no, We're gonna have a

927
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: Dagon party, Tiffany. We're gonna have a really good time

928
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: because I want to remember and think back like this was.

929
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: This is a joyful, momentous occasion, you know, and so

930
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: like yeah, so I'm just excited about that. I just like, yeah,

931
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to share that as a boost that

932
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: you know, that's something that I I Yeah, it's hard

933
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: to wrap my mind around because you know, the number

934
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: is one thing.

935
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm the jk Rowling a personal final.

936
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's so crazy, like it's all my vision

937
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: where I'm looking at my vision board now. It said

938
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand copies sold. I didn't say when, And

939
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: it's a New York Times bestseller and I'm like, yo,

940
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: I'm actually here.

941
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm gonna need a bigger vision board I know.

942
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, don't worry. We're gonna have a party. We're

943
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: go party so hard that I'm gonna I'm gonna slip

944
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: into my crop halfway through so my feet could be comfortable.

945
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: That card of party.

946
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm so freaking excited for you and will continue to

947
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: be so proud, so proud to know you.

948
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: Thank you. If you want to get the book, get

949
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: go with money dot Com. Somebody I'll be like, oh,

950
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: you forgot your commercial, Tiffany. I would be shocked.

951
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: If anyone listening right now, you should be ashamed of

952
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: yourselves and listen. If you haven't gotten the book yet,

953
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: it's not go get the book. Go to your local

954
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: target yep. And if you don't, you check the Dave

955
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: Ramsey book because I might have put hers over it

956
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: that I love like Westchester Target yea dot com. Well

957
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: we're back. I'm so glad to be back.

958
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: If you go, and don't forget guys. You know, this

959
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: is just one of two episodes that we do weekly.

960
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: So we're actually about to go tape our Q and

961
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: a episode for Friday's drop. So keep your Q and

962
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: as pouring on in share, you know, copy and paste

963
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: if you've got friends in business or otherwise, copy paste

964
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: the link to wherever you're watching this and share in

965
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: your group chat, like let's get this, let's get our

966
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, we would love to just ex we didn't

967
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: even have it.

968
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: Speaking of celebrating, we have not had a chance to

969
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: celebrate with ba fam Our iHeartRadio Best Business Podcast Award.

970
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: Not we have to think about how we gonna sell it.

971
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: We have to have dinner something, because we had a

972
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: fun dinner before.

973
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: They need to invite us to LA. That's what I'm

974
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: thinking that I would live Heart Media Awards, but no,

975
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: we are up against Earn Your Leisure, which doesn't even

976
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: feel like competition. Just friends, just bros.

977
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: But like I built this, how I built that?

978
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: My husband was like, what he actually listens to that podcast?

979
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: Not mine, but he listens to That's crazy Guy Raz,

980
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: the one and only. Yes, We're up in the Sun.

981
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: And it was something else too. Is it a planet

982
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: money which is huge, NPR's planet.

983
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: One of planet I don't know if it's plenty of money,

984
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 2: one of NPR shows and then a Bloomberg show, so legit.

985
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean, not that we needed anyone else's like validation,

986
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: but it feels damn damn good we would be recognized.

987
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: It feels really good to be recognized, and it feels like,

988
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: you know, everything is right on time. But I'm like, yeah,

989
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 2: we deserve it. Are thousand percent. Thank y'all. Thank y'all

990
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: for rocking with us, and you know, continuing to support

991
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: the show because yeah, we put everything into it.

992
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: We do all right, y'all until next week. We'll really

993
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: until Friday. See until Brian, you had to be a

994
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Speaker 1: q A