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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, September thirteenth, and we've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of great things to talk about. As always, Jenkins and

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Speaker 1: Jones is hosted by my good friends with What just happened?

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Speaker 2: What just happened? What just happened? No, we ain't letting

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Speaker 2: that go. You get let a brain part. Yeah, my

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Speaker 2: brain's a little bit scrambled up right now.

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Speaker 1: Let jet throw Jenkins aka John was that Bubba's Dragonfly?

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Speaker 2: Jones aka Tyler Everybody, I'm a good.

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Speaker 1: And I'm my my wife and I just ran a

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Speaker 1: five k this morning and I am melting.

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Speaker 2: My brain is like leaking down my shoulders right now.

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Speaker 2: That's three miles though. You run a lot already, though,

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Speaker 2: don't you.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I have not gone for a run of that length

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Speaker 1: I swim more regularly, but since school start, I've not

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Speaker 1: done anything for two weeks, and I was out late

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Speaker 1: covering football. The night before, I was eating pizza at

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Speaker 1: the fucking halftime meal they give you like, and I

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Speaker 1: overslept my alarm. I was standing there looking at the mirror.

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Speaker 1: And this morning I literally said to myself, the world's

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Speaker 1: stupidest fucking man is about to go run a five k? Like,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Idiot?

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Speaker 3: What made you do all of those things knowing you

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Speaker 3: were gonna run the next day?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? If you saw that, you

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Speaker 2: saved me some money on therapy. Bro, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, like, real question, why do people sabotage themselves?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I ate the pizza because it was there. I have that.

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Speaker 2: I'll explain that.

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Speaker 3: I think there's an answer to it. Doing dumb shit

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Speaker 3: is fun, Bro, That's the problem. Dumb shit is always fun,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Fucking up be fun as hell.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: I love fucking up until I gotta deal with fucking up,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem, man, That's why I don't drink. That's

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Speaker 2: what I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't tell shar about the pizza until we were

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Speaker 1: at breakfast this morning. After the five k and she

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Speaker 1: looked at me and she was like, I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: you never started drinking.

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Speaker 2: She's like, you would have just over the cliff bro

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Speaker 2: fun though. Listen, dude, listen, listen to me. I went.

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Speaker 1: I went up to the press box at halftime with

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Speaker 4: There's pizza there.

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'm running tomorrow. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I have a slice of pizza.

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Speaker 4: So we were talking.

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Speaker 1: I ate the slice of pizza and then I literally

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Speaker 1: have a second slice of pizza. Mean, we were just

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Speaker 2: We're about to go back down.

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Speaker 1: I asked Tyler other Tyler, I said, is there any

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Speaker 2: The things we.

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Speaker 3: Say to ourselves convincing ourself to do dumb shit, it's

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Speaker 2: We're the only animals on the planet paying money for rent,

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Speaker 2: Night, Like like, why don't you just sleep, nigga? Right right?

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Speaker 2: Why don't you just do what you want to do?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, but yeah, we're so

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Speaker 3: Thinking about that, like why do I why do like

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Speaker 2: And I was like, it's because it's fun.

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Speaker 3: That is the that is It's just that simple, And

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Speaker 3: Like I ate like twelve cookies in one citty like recently.

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Speaker 2: I know I shouldn't be doing that, you know what

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Speaker 2: I gotta do the murph on Tuesday. You feel me.

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Speaker 3: But it's you know, eating cookies is fucking great, So

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Speaker 3: fucking what else.

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Speaker 2: Do you have.

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Speaker 1: I've never once gotten a full night of sleep before

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Speaker 1: we had to get up early to travel in my

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Speaker 2: I'm always up to like two three in the morning,

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Speaker 2: packing and ship. Yeah, I'm a last Yeah. Oh yeah, bro.

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Speaker 2: Also when I was a wild boy, man, when I

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Speaker 2: some wild ship. Were gonna move on from that first

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Speaker 2: topic of the date. Oh man, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: young Hurricane. It wasn't young yo. What you call me, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: young whirlwind, romance, young romance, right right right? You Gasolina

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Speaker 1: All right, let's open up with our booger boy of

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Speaker 1: the week. Yeah, we don't talk. We don't talk a

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Speaker 1: lot of NFL. On the Jenkinson podcast Jenkins and Jones.

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Speaker 5: Night, you made me sound like a white man. Good night,

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Speaker 5: motherfuck out here? What's the name of the podcast against

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Speaker 5: Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: We don't talk a lot about the NFL on the

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Speaker 1: Jenkins and Jones podcasts, but Urban Meyer's personality is a

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Speaker 1: favorite pet topic of Tyler and Mines. So let me

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Speaker 1: just read you a timeline. The Jacksonville Jaguars, which Urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer is the coach of this year, are going to suck. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The USC head coaching job appears that it is imminently

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Speaker 1: about to open after USC got dog walked by Stanford

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Speaker 1: last night. So Urban maya who cannot quit a job

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Speaker 1: this morning and people were literally texting me last night

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Speaker 1: that this was gonna happen. We wake up this morning

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Speaker 1: and the headline on CBA CBS Sports is Urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: era begins amid tumult and discord and Jaguars morale has

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's he's called unhinged in the story, and Tyler quote

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Speaker 1: tweeted it and said Urban's about to fake his death again.

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Speaker 2: It's coming. We know it's coming.

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Speaker 6: Bro, listen, Jazz gonna start off like two and six

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Speaker 6: two a seven, and this motherfucker's gonna have a fake

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Speaker 6: heart attack, bro, And that's gonna be it for the

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Speaker 6: Jaguars that he's gonna get on the phone with USC.

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Speaker 2: He gonna be the USC coach next season.

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Speaker 6: It's so funny to me how he got out of

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Speaker 6: that Ohio State gig right, like right when the pressure

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Speaker 6: was coming down on you know, illegal recruiting practices and

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Speaker 6: players taking money.

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Speaker 2: Urban was just like, guys, I'm about to die by

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Speaker 2: and this motherfucker skated like nothing happened.

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Speaker 6: Bro, This motherfucker low key faked his own demise to

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Speaker 6: get out of to get out of trouble. You gotta

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Speaker 6: kind of admired a bit if you willing to go

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Speaker 6: that far, Like who has to come down on a dude?

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm saying, who got heart issues?

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Speaker 2: And ship? So you know it's a good shoategy that word.

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Speaker 2: It's again, it's.

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Speaker 4: The second time he did it.

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Speaker 2: He left Florida when they were to catch the same ship.

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Speaker 7: Like, oh, he's like Fred Safford, remember about friend Samper

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Speaker 7: will fake his heart attackt Like like George.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming to the wall, coming to Georgia. This is

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Speaker 2: the big one.

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Speaker 1: After consulting, after consulting with my cardiologists, he says that

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Speaker 1: the weather in a part of the country where there's

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Speaker 1: no investigators would actually be better.

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Speaker 2: For my health.

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Speaker 1: So I have to Actually I'm calling you from the plane.

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Speaker 1: I'm already on the way to a different.

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Speaker 2: Part of the country.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, But yeah, the u USC is a way fucking

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Speaker 6: better job than Jacksonville, Bro. Like, I mean, I couldn't

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Speaker 6: Way fucking better.

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Speaker 3: What's the money looking like, I know, college coach, get

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Speaker 3: cash the fuck out.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like, it's gonna be interesting because they're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: So but it's good money.

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Speaker 2: I mean, bro, it's all good money. We've talked me here.

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Speaker 2: You know this has been a running theme of it.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference between eight million dollars and ten million dollars?

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Speaker 1: I know, I know it's two million dollars, but it's

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Speaker 1: not the same as the difference between zero and two

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, right, It's not our salary compared to

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: All right, God blessed Urban wishing wishing you the best.

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Speaker 6: Our condolences in advance for the face heart attack attack

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Speaker 6: on the way.

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Speaker 4: What's funny is he has the image of being like a.

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Speaker 1: Like he's respected by all the like conservative football fans

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Speaker 1: like he's He's successfully maintained that image despite having a

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Speaker 1: actually Jerry Tarkanian, like undercover, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: And he's just once the light starts shining, it's uh oh,

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Speaker 1: the old ticker is acting up, the old ticker, the

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Speaker 1: old ticker, I got a I got a week ticker.

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Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

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Speaker 6: It's funny because he's lying right right.

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Our other candidate for booger Boy of the Week is

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Speaker 1: The Top of the Morning, which I know neither of

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Speaker 1: you are fond of, gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm fond of it in a way that I

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Speaker 6: don't think Johanna's find it. I think it's hilarious, you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean. I'm very much enjoying the memes

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Speaker 6: the top of him on and top of them on

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Speaker 6: the means and shit, But yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know what the fuck Kendricks are. I mean, it's obviously

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Speaker 6: You know, let's not you know, act like we're some

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Speaker 6: serious hip hop parists who don't want rapped to be fun.

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Speaker 6: But it's just a fucking ridiculous ten or twelve seconds

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Speaker 6: of audio, especially when you isolate that shit.

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Speaker 3: But it's the goofy ist shit, like it's like the

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Speaker 3: which makes it funny, you know what I'm saying like,

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Speaker 3: then what, you know, what really fucked me up is

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Speaker 2: Let's let's get this ship, top of them on it,

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Speaker 3: Why why you know, Like it's just so goofy, and

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying when people say that shit, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's the goofiest ship, and niggas are saying, watch that

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Speaker 3: shit gonna go crazy live what nigga, I'm at home.

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Speaker 2: It's a fucking pandy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm at home, nigga, and this shit ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 2: I've been sitting in the last two days.

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Speaker 3: It's just like I just don't get it, you know,

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Speaker 3: like it's not it's not I mean, do you think

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Speaker 2: When you hear it, it's just weird.

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Speaker 6: I think the memes elevated too hilarious because this was

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Speaker 3: The memes make it funny, but when you listen to it,

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Speaker 3: it's like, what the fuck is this nigga on Like

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Speaker 3: he's making fun of these niggas but ends up making

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Speaker 2: I'm like, let's get this ship.

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Speaker 3: And but What's crazy is he does this in between

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Speaker 3: he says it's weird shit. Kim tries to actually rap,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what are where are we? What are we?

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Speaker 2: Where are we going with this?

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like he repeats the fucking

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Speaker 2: The fuck dog? That ship makes no sense to me, Like.

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Speaker 3: It's terrible, it's terrible, it sounds bad, it's not funny.

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Speaker 2: It's goofy as ship.

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Speaker 3: The only thing is funny is people being funny about it,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like this is this is

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Speaker 1: confusing to me because you are a Top of the Morning, motherfucker.

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Speaker 4: I thought your your anthem.

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Speaker 3: Right though, Like I mean, like I'm I'm repeating the

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, I'm annoying the funk out of my wife

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Speaker 6: or that shit. Yeah, Top of the Morning, Top of

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Speaker 6: the Morning, Top of the Morning.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm being extremely annoying

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Speaker 2: It's you know, it's baby Shark. It's baby Shark. You

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's that type of you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, musician ship. No, I don't need that

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Speaker 2: from fucking Kendrick.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Kendrick's cover of one eight seven

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Speaker 1: seven Cars for Kids, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, like it made me question, like yo, like what

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Speaker 3: what this nigga on? But what we really need to

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Speaker 3: talk about is King's album. That's what we should talk about.

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Speaker 2: We're keen like dog like the first two albums. Uh

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Speaker 2: fucking uh.

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Speaker 3: It was It Died from My Bitch, which as wild

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Speaker 3: as it sounds, it's just as fun as it sounds.

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Speaker 3: This album was hell of fun. The album before that

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Speaker 3: was funn as hell too. I remember putting my little

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Speaker 3: brother on the shit. He was like, what who the

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Speaker 3: fuck is this? Something like, Yo, this niggas fired about too,

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Speaker 3: maybe two years ago something like that. I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 3: he had an album before this who that was fire too?

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Speaker 3: And then he comes he has all the eyes. He

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Speaker 3: dropped that family tied shit. Everybody's fucking looking at him now, like, okay,

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Speaker 3: you know Kendrick's cousin, they got pg lang all this

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Speaker 3: ship and he dropped this fucking six out of fucking

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Speaker 3: ten album. Bro, this very very mid fucking you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Album, And it's like, yo, and just

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Speaker 3: stick to stick to what you was.

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Speaker 2: Why why are you.

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Speaker 3: Going this route with the singing ass Kanye shit when

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Speaker 3: you could have really just talked to your wild ass

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Speaker 3: ship on albums and we would have enjoyed it, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: M hmm yeah, Like like we've had this discussion before

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Speaker 6: about how we didn't understand how baby Keene was bigger

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Speaker 6: given all his you know, industry connects. He's Kendrick's cousin,

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Speaker 6: he's got Drake Cole signs, he got, he got Travis

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Speaker 6: Scott features right like we were like, Whiz put.

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Speaker 3: Me on three years ago. Wiz is the one that

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Speaker 3: put me on. He was promoting them too, like everybody

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Speaker 3: was behind him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we like, how was this kid not bigger with

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Speaker 6: all these co signs, all these connects and From My

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Speaker 6: Bitch was an amazing Animal is one of my favorite

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Speaker 6: albums of that year. And then he just comes out

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Speaker 6: and drops this shit and it's like, Bro, this ain't it,

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Speaker 6: Like you know what.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, like this is not it dog.

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Speaker 6: Like I ran through that shit on Friday night, and

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Speaker 6: then I went right back to fucking certified lover boy,

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Speaker 6: like you know, you know your ship men, when Drake

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Speaker 6: got to be the fucking palate cleanser, you know what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying. I don't know, man, I feel like Kean

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Speaker 6: fumbled here. So I was on the track, I was I.

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Speaker 3: Was doing my little thirty I'm trying to do thirty

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Speaker 3: minutes of cardio for thirty days straight, right, so.

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Speaker 2: I'm on my do my little cardio.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I got this is a perfect come on,

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Speaker 3: come on, I'm just nigga.

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Speaker 2: I'm setting the fucking like eat murphed for breakfast.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I don't that shit stood with

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Speaker 3: my ass anyway.

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Speaker 2: So I'm fucking doing my.

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Speaker 3: Little cardio, and shit, this is a perfect time for

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Speaker 3: a fucking Keen album. Like you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: That shit gets you excited and all this shit, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like probably five songs into this motherfucker and I

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Speaker 3: got my nose.

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Speaker 2: Up like this shit pe you this ship stinks, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And by the time, by the time, by the time

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Speaker 3: it got to fucking up, let's get this Ship. I

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Speaker 3: accidentally stopped riding my bike and looked at the phone, like,

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Speaker 3: is this the right album? Nigga Like, I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: thought it switched to a different song. I'm like, there's

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Speaker 3: no way this is this sound like Kendrick, but it

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Speaker 3: can't be, Nigga, I refused. Nigga like, Bro, that ship

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Speaker 3: is bad. Man, Like, I mean the album as a whole,

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Speaker 3: this whatever. I listened to it the next day in

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Speaker 3: the car. I'm like, maybe it's some location tried. The

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Speaker 3: car was in Trader Joe's. I finally just gave up

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Speaker 3: on it, man Like, I'm just like, but that, let's

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Speaker 3: get this ship. Let's get this ship.

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Speaker 1: Bro, you're so you're saying Kim did not get this ship?

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Speaker 1: You guys, top of them on and top of them

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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 2: This is a This was the bottom of the Morning album.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, middle of the morning, middle of the morning, middle

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Speaker 1: of the morning.

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Speaker 2: Were y'all not excited about this album coming up? I was.

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Speaker 6: I definitely was. I've been excited about New King since

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Speaker 6: you know, Died for my Bitch dropped in.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it made me feel old. It made

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Speaker 3: me feel old. I'm like King because really, Jo King

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Speaker 3: don't really make bad songs like I think, like his

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Speaker 3: last two albums, I think I've enjoyed damn near every

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Speaker 3: fucking song. So listening to something like it made me

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Speaker 3: feel like how Cardif? When I listened to New Cardio,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, am I Am? I?

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Speaker 2: Am?

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Speaker 3: I at that point where like I'm too old to

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Speaker 3: enjoy this young nigga shit because I thought, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Dialt was a classic to me, dead ass,

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Speaker 3: I'm not joking on it. I love that lit So

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Speaker 3: listening to him Joints, I'm like, what the fuck? But no,

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Speaker 3: like getting online realizing that people just aren't really fucking

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Speaker 3: with it. It's just not as good as we thought

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Speaker 3: it would be. But I mean, I hope, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's good. He'll get you know, to

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Speaker 3: go turn it around next album and get back to talking.

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Speaker 6: started off saying, y'all gonna if they would have penalized

438
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 6: me for having for smoking weed and having strippers, which

439
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 6: isn't illegal. I'm a you know, I'm a single man,

440
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 6: and you got motherfuckers in the Hall of Fame who

441
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 6: don't way worse shit.

442
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right. You

443
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: should not have been penalized.

444
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 6: By then he was like, if I wasn't first ballot,

445
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 6: it would have been the biggest injustice in the history

446
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 6: of the Hall of Fame. And I was like, okay, Paul,

447
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 6: let's puff the breaks have been here, bro, Like like

448
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 6: Chris Webber is right fucking there in your class, dude,

449
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 6: you want to talk about injustices, right like like this,

450
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 6: he got in on his eighth year of eligibility. You

451
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 6: know what I mean, He's fucking eighth ballot. And he

452
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 6: was like, Chris Webber was a bad motherfucker man. Let's

453
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 6: just say that first and foremost, he had nine years

454
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 6: nine years averaging twenty three, ten and five. Right, and

455
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 6: he didn't get him just because he had he took

456
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 6: some hundred dollars handshicks at Michigan some bullshit. So I

457
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 6: mean tack, Like, you know, there's just this whole crowd

458
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 6: who would have rioted if Paul Pierce didn't go first ballot.

459
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 6: Bro No, we don't give a fuck about Paul Pierce

460
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 6: bro at all that much.

461
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 4: It would have been it would have been shocking.

462
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: Were he not a first ballot Hall of Famer. But

463
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Speaker 1: I agree with you that it's it's all good. There's like,

464
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 1: but the Basketball Hall of Fame is weird. You pointed

465
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: this out in a Twitter argument about it's not the

466
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: NBA Hall of Fame, it is the basketball So the

467
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: college stuff counts, the high school stuff counts. I believe

468
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: there's a high school coach in the in the Naismith

469
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So I from the math, I think, right, yeah, yeah,

470
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: and so like, yeah, I mean it's that would it like,

471
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: given his significance in college on one of the more

472
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: significant college teams in the history of the sport, it

473
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: would have been like, like, Chris Webber is absolutely a

474
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: bigger shock to me. That it took eight fucking years

475
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: for him to get in.

476
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

477
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm good for Paul Man.

478
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: You know he tried to do in this speech the

479
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: these nine teams that didn't draft me were my motivation

480
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: the entire time. I don't know if this is just

481
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: my view of the world, but I feel like that's

482
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: so corny at this point. Bro, Like, I think.

483
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: That's just that's not interesting. He's not interesting. If somebody

484
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: that interested.

485
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Speaker 1: You said that he is interesting, like you went to

486
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: he went to Inglewood High School, he like, he's an

487
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: inner city dude. He survived an actualt Like you know

488
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, he is everybody. It doesn't translate out

489
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: of like through a television, but I but that's the

490
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: thing that's so crazy to me is like, this dude

491
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: is arguably one of, if not the best basketball players

492
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 1: in California history. He came out of Inglewood, achieved all

493
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: this shit in Boston, won Boston over to an Inglewood

494
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: black dude from Inglewood, you know what I mean. But

495
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: he opens his mouth and it's just like changed the

496
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: fucking channel. I honestly don't understand it. If you know

497
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: people who've been around Maul Peers. He's not an uninteresting dude.

498
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: It's just there's a disconnect there that I don't understand.

499
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: Bro that when Draymond flamed his ass up.

500
00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: Het Kobe, Bro nigga, but Tripball is Draymond that did that,

501
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: like the like nigga, Like like a nigga that averages

502
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: like three two.

503
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, like.

504
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: Raymond, You know what I mean, Like you know what

505
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Draymond a nigga that flamed you Paul Pierce,

506
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 3: who's one of the coldest scorers. You know what I'm

507
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 3: saying prior to the Big Three. You know what I'm

508
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: saying that the team wasn't good, but he was incredible,

509
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying in those years, and.

510
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: Like Draymond is the one that does your ass bad.

511
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: Nobody gives a fuck about Paul Pierce dog for some reason.

512
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: And so he said that, and it wasn't interesting because

513
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: it was Paul Pierce.

514
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

515
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 6: It's it's you know, like I said, it's interesting how

516
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 6: very few people give a fuck about Paul Pierce because

517
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 6: he's the greatest post bird, you know, post McHale Celtic

518
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 6: since since Birden and and mchaeleenos bast and no one

519
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 6: gets I'm not saying he's the best player since then.

520
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 6: I mean I think kg's probably the best player.

521
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: Well that's the greatest, greatest in his career there, yes,

522
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: exactly there for how long? You know what I'm saying.

523
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's like no one gives a fuck, bro,

524
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 6: Like like that. The Celtics are the at worst, the

525
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 6: second most followed team in all of the NBA, and

526
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 6: no one gives a fuck about the second greatest you

527
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 6: know about the greatest Celtics since bird It's just it's.

528
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: What is what's going on? What was that? That was

529
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: the Duck video? That the Duck video? I forgot the

530
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: silence my phone here.

531
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Speaker 6: That's how I'm interested in Paul Pierce's Bro, we don

532
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 6: get duck videos about talking about it.

533
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: That's the point though, right I was looking at something

534
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: else up about Paul Pierce and uh and the Duck.

535
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,479
Speaker 2: Video still playing. It's my bad. No, it's all good,

536
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. We don't give a fuck at all. Bro.

537
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: But but Jackson might the growdest person on this pot.

538
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: But he's from Oakland and Inglewood.

539
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: And he like he won over this any of Boston

540
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: and I don't give a fuck, and you don't care,

541
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: and you don't care, bro And.

542
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: He had a rivalry finals series.

543
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: The history of the basket, in history of basketball with

544
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: his hometown team, and no one gave a fun.

545
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: He cares, Nobody cares, you know what I mean?

546
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: Like the third fourth best player of the team flamed

547
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: his ass up in his fucking you know what I'm saying,

548
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: retirement tour in the season, ate his ass up.

549
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: And that's what we care about most when it comes

550
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: to Paul Pierce.

551
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 3: That and the fact that he shit his pants in

552
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 3: a game like this.

553
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: Is what we talk about.

554
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: Like the nigga wasn't putting up like incredible numbers throughout

555
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: his career. We talked about him sitting his pants and

556
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: and and a defensive player dog in his ass right.

557
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 6: He had a he had a game seven with Broun

558
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 6: where Bron had forty four and he had forty one.

559
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 6: And we just want to talk about the poopy pants incident.

560
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: But like that is that I was.

561
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 8: Giving braun l before Brian turned the corners eleven times

562
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 8: in the face, neck and back and had a bottle

563
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 8: smashed over his head, he had to undergo lung surgery

564
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 8: to survive and be able to Breathe did he play

565
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 8: the only.

566
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Speaker 1: Player on his team who started all eighty two games

567
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: that season, and I hear his name and want to

568
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: take a nap.

569
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: Don't get it. I didn't know all that happened to that. Yeah,

570
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 2: I did not know.

571
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 6: The next season on some like you know, like, No,

572
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 6: I did not know he got stabbed eleven times and

573
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 6: a bottle broken over said motherfuckers with Tom and Jerry

574
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 6: on that.

575
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: Dude, God damn, Like what the fuck?

576
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: The bottle had Actme written on it. Shit, goodness, gracious dog.

577
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: We're glad you didn't die, Paul Pierce. We will say

578
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: that we are a happy year here.

579
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 6: No, we don't want to be delicious, but we loved

580
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 6: the poopy pants jokes more than talking about your career.

581
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man, It's just how it is.

582
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: Well deserving Hall of Famer. I'm glad he got in

583
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. You feel this should have been

584
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: first ballot? No fucking question, did you guys watch any

585
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: other speeches?

586
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: You have any other thoughts on Weber or Bosher? I

587
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: think it was fourteen person class. Obviously, those four wards.

588
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: I'm glad Wallace got in, Oh for sure, I'm glad

589
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: Ben finally got in.

590
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: Know Ben was a fucking dog man.

591
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: I feel like, because we know him as a defensive player,

592
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: we don't realize how good he was at that. He

593
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: was fucking insanely good at what he did and deserves

594
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: it being Hall of Fame.

595
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: It should have took this long, So I'm happy for him,

596
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: But I think.

597
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 6: Four Defensive Player of the Years in five seasons, Like,

598
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 6: come on, bro, like stop playing like he's yeah, yeah,

599
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 6: he's one of those dudes who if you just look

600
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 6: at the box scorn and see, you know, he's like

601
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 6: a five and eleven guys career, you might be like,

602
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 6: what's the big deal about this guy Ben Wallace? During

603
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 6: the early two thousands, he was one of those players

604
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 6: who as he went, so did the powershifts of the

605
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 6: league go. You know what I mean, Like, like, you know,

606
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 6: he was a dude who who you know, went through

607
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 6: the Kobe and Lakers, Kobean and Shaq Lakers to get

608
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 6: a ring. He took Timmy and the Spurs seven, you

609
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 6: know what I mean, in back to back seasons.

610
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: He was he was He's one of the.

611
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 6: Best defensive players we've ever seen, and I think we

612
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 6: need to start valuing defense as much as we value offense,

613
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 6: which which we saw, you know, the tops kind of

614
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 6: turning when Robin gott In. Robin absolutely should have gotten

615
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 6: in and then you know, now we're seeing while it's

616
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 6: getting so, you know, with that said, a guy like

617
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 6: Draymond is definitely going to be a shoeing too, as

618
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 6: he should be. So I just like the presidents that

619
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 6: that's being set with him.

620
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the Basketball Hall of Fame is not,

621
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: you know, like baseball does it the exact wrong way.

622
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's run for the wrong reasons. It's

623
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: set up the wrong way. The Basketball Hall of Fame

624
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: is just a celebration of the sport. If you've heard

625
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: of someone, if someone who's not a diehard basketball fan

626
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: has heard of someone, chances are there gonna be a

627
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Bro and Ben Wallace I think was

628
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: the only multiple Defensive Player of the Year honoree who

629
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: was not in, and he does kind of close that.

630
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: Like every now and then those are come up on Twitter.

631
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: It's the dumbest basketball conversation of Is Giannis already a

632
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Yes, he's already all like like, like

633
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: dudes who are Hall of Famers have basically clinched the

634
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame usually by the time they're twenty five,

635
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: twenty six, bro, Like, it's once you've reached that level,

636
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up in the Hall of Fame at

637
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: some point, you know what I mean.

638
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: So I was happy for Ben two.

639
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: I feel like as the game has gotten more analytical

640
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: and production oriented, the contributions that he.

641
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 2: Made are are less appreciated.

642
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: I agree with Tyler, like defense, we don't look at

643
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: defense the same way. I feel like when we were

644
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: all growing up, the fact that Michael Jordan would score

645
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: and try and lock down a team's best player, that

646
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: was something everyone talked about and celebrated. Some of the

647
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: best offensive players in the league are known liabilities on

648
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: like just don't even attempt to play defense, and no

649
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: one says anything about it. It's just like accepted that.

650
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you know, someone's you got to have

651
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: help behind him because he's just gonna let the dude

652
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: blow by him or whatever.

653
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: What were people telling themselves to keep Weber out for

654
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: eight fucking years? Like, what excuses could you really make

655
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: up for that that that is wild to me.

656
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 6: I think Weber is a victim of two things, of

657
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 6: that time out against North Carolina and the fact that

658
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 6: he never eliminated the Lakers, you know, in the postseas.

659
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 6: I think that's what people a lot of you know,

660
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 6: people who aren't familiar.

661
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: With him think about.

662
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 6: This is a guy who who you know, choked in

663
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 6: college and you know, couldn't get over the hump in

664
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 6: the postseason in the NBA.

665
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: But Weber was Weber was a dude. He's a victim

666
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: of having played in Sacramento. Yeah, yeah, that too.

667
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 6: Weber was a guy who who pushed the boundaries, Like

668
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 6: when I was a kid seeing a six ten power

669
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 6: forward who could dribble like him, who could pass like him.

670
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 6: You know, like like back in fucking ninety three ninety four,

671
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 6: you didn't see fucking power forwards running the fast break

672
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 6: and we even through defenders going around the back and

673
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 6: throwing no look dimes, you know what I mean. Like

674
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 6: that's commonplace now, but it not three ninety four. We

675
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 6: didn't see that shit. Weber was like the only power

676
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 6: forward doing that shit. Weber was a dude. I mean,

677
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 6: Isaiah Thomas set himself. Weber was a dude who pushed

678
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 6: the way that we defined, you know, the power forward position,

679
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 6: and he kind of started to stretch for a revolution

680
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 6: in a sense.

681
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: It's just wild to think that. I mean, back in

682
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: the day, like to me, like Weber was the fucking

683
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: man watching him play. Yeah, and I know he you know,

684
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: he didn't beat the fucking Lakers, But did you see

685
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: that Lakers fucking team? They really had no business you know, like,

686
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: you know, challenging the Lakers in that way, you know

687
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

688
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: In those playoff series, you know what I mean, Like

689
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I don't know, they had a

690
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: squad too. The niggas had a squad dog, they had it.

691
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: They had some and Mike Biby was putting up thirty

692
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: Mike baby was eating you know what I'm saying, Like

693
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: Sri Yakovic ass always nutted up. But like they had

694
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: a squad, I don't know, but Weber, it was never Weber.

695
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: They didn't lose because Weber didn't do what he was

696
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: supposed to do. You know what I'm saying. He was

697
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: always he always showed up. And you know, other than

698
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: that moment in North Carolina. He was a rookie, right,

699
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: he's a freshman, correct, yeah, sophomore.

700
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

701
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: So the Lakers Kings series, the Tim Doneghie series, is

702
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: the one sports thing that like, I cannot I have

703
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: friends who are from Northern California who are Kings fans

704
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: because it used to be that no one were Warriors

705
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: fans in Northern California. You cannot joke about that Lakers,

706
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: the Lakers King series where the NBA was actively putting

707
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: their finger on there. It's like it's the risest nerve

708
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: in professional sports fandom. They're still like, hey man, shut

709
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: the fuck up, like like, we don't joke about that ship.

710
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: I don't blame them. I don't blame them.

711
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: Bro, I wasn't a fan of either team, and those

712
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: like I felt, I felt as if I was.

713
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: Those series were so intense. Basketball felt different back then.

714
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: I want I don't want to be old. I don't

715
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: want to sound like an old nigga.

716
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: But those series were that was a Those were those

717
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: were different, bro, and and and the Lakers Spurs series

718
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: were crazy as fuck too.

719
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: Those series were always crazy.

720
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: They were crazy, and they were it was crazy in

721
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: Southern California.

722
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 2: I for sure.

723
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I've greatly enjoyed watching the Lakers success recently,

724
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: but with all due respect to the Bubble Championship, to

725
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: the Kobe and Powell Championships, like the Kobe Shack Lakers

726
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: era basketball felt very different, and I don't feel like

727
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: that was just because I was in southern California. It

728
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: was like everyone was watching it. Everyone was either furious

729
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: or elated. No one was in the middle on that, like, oh,

730
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: I just want to see how Bron does tonight. Like

731
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: everyone had a passionate rooting.

732
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: Interesting one.

733
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 3: You picked a side, You picked a side. Dog, that

734
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: was some gang ship, you know what I mean. We

735
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: was arguing in fucking Alabama over them fucking gangs. Bro,

736
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, Dog, that shit

737
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: was some real That's what those series were serious. I

738
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: get that, that makes sense.

739
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 6: A funny ass story about about that Lakers and King's

740
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 6: two thousand and two series that I'll never forget is

741
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 6: that they said they said when the Lakers bus pulled

742
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 6: out of Arco Arena, that Shack put his whole ass outside.

743
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: And mooned all the Kings fans out there with.

744
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 6: I could not imagine being a King's fan having my

745
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 6: heart ripped out in a Game seven, and I walk

746
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 6: outside to my car and I see Shack's big ass

747
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 6: just from dripping, I'd have been hot.

748
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: Bro, Can you imagine how big that ass is? Like,

749
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: that's a huge as Shaq is basically me with my

750
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: arms all the way up. I'm five eleven.

751
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: When I put my arms up, I'm probably, like, you

752
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, barely tall and Shack my fingertips

753
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: that you.

754
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: Put your arms up, you're probably half a foot short.

755
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: Maybe he got fifteen inch dog Like.

756
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, dog like, you know what I'm saying. Like,

757
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 3: that's a big ass out of fucking window, Nigga, that's

758
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: an unmissable ass. You can't miss that ass when you

759
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: put that motherfucker out the window.

760
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: Talk. Everybody saw that ass after they took that ass.

761
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: Whooping nigga. You know what I mean, Let's make this

762
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: ass whooping literal. You know what I'm saying, Craze.

763
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: Jumbo tron ass jumbo.

764
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 9: Tron ass out a bus window. Man, goodness, gracious.

765
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Lakers is beautiful, beautiful.

766
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't you feel like if you're

767
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: a Kings fan, and you saw that you would have

768
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: to just like I know, I was about to get

769
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: back in my car, but now I need to go

770
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: walk to the ticket office and just be like, cash

771
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: me out for next year.

772
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 4: I'm not coming back next year like.

773
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 2: A Laker fan.

774
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, either I'm a Lakers fan or basketball doesn't

775
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: exist to me.

776
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: But I can't do this again. Bro, that's however much

777
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: money and a whole year. That's hill O'Neal's asshole in

778
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: my face. H that's very cool.

779
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 3: Like the universe shouldn't allowed him to have that thought

780
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: because Shaq was gonna if he had the thought, he

781
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: was gonna put his ass in the window. That's the

782
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: one nigga that shouldn't have had that thought, you know

783
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: what I mean. Probbie might have thought it, but he

784
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: didn't do it. The universe shouldn't allowed Shaq to have

785
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: that thought.

786
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: But it did. That's how much it doesn't fuck with Sacramento.

787
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: Were gonna give this thought the shack and let him

788
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: put his ass out the window in Sacramento, Nigga, you feel.

789
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: Me like that's cold, that's too cold.

790
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. The universe isn't working for

791
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: you at that point, nigga. You know what tom it is.

792
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, cash out and shake, nigga.

793
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: Fucking It's just it's tough for the Kings because you

794
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: don't have If you live in like bummy ass Sacramento,

795
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: you don't have anything.

796
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: At Like I'm gonna go to old town and do

797
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: something out like you know what I mean, they don't

798
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: really have anything.

799
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: I didn't know what Sacramento was until I, like, I

800
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: drove to the Bay once.

801
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

802
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: It was like stopped in Sacramento for some reason. I

803
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: forget why it was that, but anyway, it wasn't like

804
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: my idea. I didn't want to, but we stopped in

805
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: eight and I'm like, wow, like this is where that

806
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: team was at, you know, like NBA.

807
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: Players live here.

808
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm from Saint Louis, nigga, you know what I'm saying,

809
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: Like I'm not from a big ass city, but I'm like, wow,

810
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: Like Sacramento really is kind.

811
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: Of this shit weakest fuck man. I hate to say it.

812
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: It's like the nineteenth best city in California, and behind Bakersfield.

813
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: It's more black people in Bakersfield and Sacramento. At this point,

814
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: I'd probably rather live in Bakersfield.

815
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: And I am not a fan of Bakersfield.

816
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: I actually accidentally started a beef with the city here

817
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: Bakersfield in Long Beach. Well, we covered Poly and they

818
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: went up and beat Bakersfield High School. Those are the

819
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: two winningst programs in California history, Bakersfield High School or Poly.

820
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: We we I rode the team bus up there.

821
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: We pulled into town.

822
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: They had like it was on the news when the

823
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: bus pulled into town, into Sacramento, right in southern California, Bro, Like,

824
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: no one gives a fuck about Pollic football.

825
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 4: It's like the ninetieth most important.

826
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: Sports team, right, they pull into fucking Bakersfield and it's like, oh,

827
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 1: we gotta get him on the news and all this shit.

828
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: And I tweet.

829
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: I tweeted a video of all the cameras out and

830
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: I was just like, it's a whole lot of attention

831
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: for a high school football ass whooping bro, And they

832
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: came out and I was like, And then I tweeted

833
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: before the game, I was like, win or lose, at

834
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: least Polly gets to go back to Long Beach.

835
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: They don't have to live in Bakersfield.

836
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: He was asked yelling at me in the parking lot shit.

837
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: Right, but that we were yelling because they know it's trash,

838
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like with the Indiana shit, bro,

839
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: Like when he was mad at me, it's because it

840
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: was true.

841
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: It was true, you know what I mean.

842
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: The only thing about Bakersfield is it hasn't reputation of

843
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: being a like white hicic town. And because it's affordable

844
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: housing and there were jobs out there, there actually is

845
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: a fairly significant black population of the city. And they

846
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: do not appreciate the you live in the fucking south

847
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: of California comments, you know what I mean. They get,

848
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: they get, they take that shit really personally. But I'm like,

849
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: you live in Baco, bro, Like, I don't know that

850
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: there's anything I can do for you.

851
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: You know, it gives me slide down Louisiana vibes.

852
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: I'll say that when I'll be pulling through that motherfucker,

853
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 3: I'll be like, and then also you pull up.

854
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: And it's like real and it's gone, you know what

855
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Like you.

856
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: Be on the highway, you turn, turn back, turn to

857
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: get him up with a gone like it was like

858
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: it was a mirage in the desert, nigga, you know

859
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, did Bakersville ever happen?

860
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: For real? Like you know what I'm saying, like crazy,

861
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: and I take all those cities over Sacramento.

862
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: So.

863
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: Oh, we really shit on people's cities.

864
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: And it's kind of fucked up what it is. And

865
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: we're not from you know, we're not from Paris or whatever.

866
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: But Richmond's making progress.

867
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: They got Robert.

868
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 6: You got Roberty out here, Yeah, thank thank goodness, we

869
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 6: got his whole ass up out here.

870
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that motherfucker.

871
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: The people were people crying.

872
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 6: Crying, tears of joy made like listen, we're at the

873
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 6: I will say this about Richard. We're at the point

874
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 6: now where you know, if you bring your ass out

875
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 6: and and you're trying to pick it and and and

876
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 6: and protest against people coming down on the Confederacy and

877
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 6: ship here, you're gonna meet a crowded motherfuckers who are

878
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 6: gonna tell you to take your weak ass home, you

879
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying.

880
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: And it wasn't always like that here, you know what

881
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

882
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 6: We used to have there was always you know, pro

883
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 6: Confederacy rallies and ship here and those motherfuckers would just

884
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 6: go about un bothered. But we reached the point now

885
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 6: where where these motherfuckers ain't having it, bro, Because the

886
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 6: thing about about downtown Richman, where all these statues are,

887
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 6: is that it's vcu is right there too, right, So

888
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 6: it's a lot of college kids who are fired up

889
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 6: about this shit.

890
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

891
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: Time they haven't Yeah, yeah, they got the Thursday afternoon,

892
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm at a statue right right.

893
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: My class was done at one to day.

894
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 6: I got time to get in a racist motherfucker space today,

895
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, at four pm, when everyone

896
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 6: else is working and ship right. So, so that's another

897
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 6: thing too, is that it's a whole bunch of college

898
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 6: kids who are bleeding out here and and setting motherfucker

899
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 6: straight on that.

900
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: And good for them.

901
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 6: But but yeah, you know, the city is as happy

902
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 6: as hell that that shit is going, and the motherfuckers

903
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 6: we ain't happy about to know, not to shut the

904
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 6: fuck up.

905
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: So progress, I guess that is progress. I'm happy.

906
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: So I'm happy for you, bro, because I remember you

907
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: talking about that way back in the day, about like

908
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: I love Richmond. But I'm literally driving past a statue

909
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: right right ahead of the Confederacy, Like.

910
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 6: What the the biggest fucking statue of a Confederate you know,

911
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 6: a fucking Confederate monument in the fucking nation, which I

912
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 6: did not know until like all this shit went down.

913
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 6: But that shit is huge, y'all seen the pictures. That

914
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 6: shit was like fucking eighty ninety feet high.

915
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: Bro.

916
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: The base of it is huge.

917
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: They showed the picture of the before and after they

918
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: took it, and I was like, the base looks like

919
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: a fucking monument, Like without anything on top of it,

920
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: it looks like a monument. Yeah, bye bye, Okay, last

921
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: thing we're gonna talk about, uh and I will tweet

922
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: this video out for people to see if you have

923
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: not seen it. There're two there's two relevant animal videos

924
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: to discuss. The first is did you see the video

925
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: of the lion getting jumped by the hyenas and then

926
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: the other lions came in and mopped up the hyenas.

927
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 2: Oh I saw that. I saw that, bro. Gang ship nigga.

928
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: I know we'll be talking about this ship, bro, but

929
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: it's really gang shit in.

930
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: The motherfucking wild, Nigga. They didn't even question yea, there

931
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: was there was there was no like, no, I don't know.

932
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: I don't want to get benked up, you know, and

933
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: and and and Hyenas have the strongest jaws in the

934
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 3: fucking wild.

935
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: It ain't hyena bite you like they're we talked about.

936
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: They're trying to tear the energs your ass. You know

937
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: what I mean. It ain't sweet, It ain't like the nigga.

938
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: Don't get slept and get put on World Star Nigga.

939
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 2: Your inside gonna be outside, nigga.

940
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: And you can't go to a hospital if you bite

941
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: your leg in half either, you know what I mean,

942
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 1: Like you're just never gonna be able to walk again.

943
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

944
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: You out here, you know, tripod and it for the

945
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: rest of your ship. You feel me, you know what

946
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: I mean? Like and they and they didn't question like nigga.

947
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: They jumped in there like you know, fuck them on

948
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: the niggas because you.

949
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 2: Listen.

950
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 6: I know, I know there's no morality in nature, and

951
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, But I will I would

952
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 6: say I am firmly on team Lion side in the

953
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 6: Lion Hyena gang war. I do not fuck with hyaenas

954
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 6: at all, at all. Especially when they go after lions

955
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 6: and ship doog like you know, fuck that.

956
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: I'm team lyninging this motherfucker.

957
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: I told y'all man other day, I was like, I

958
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: woke up at like six thirty am and was peeping

959
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: some jaguars shit, and I think, like, Yo, jaguars, the ones, Bro, Jaguars,

960
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: the ones. We talked about that video where they jumped

961
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: in there, grabbed the cord, jumped into a different habitat,

962
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: jumped into the water, crock infested water to grab a crop,

963
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 3: snatches by his head, killed it, dragged it out the water,

964
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: up a bank, up a fucking tree, and come home.

965
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: Bro, who whoo? Who won't anything again with that motherfucker?

966
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: I want to hey, nigga, were cool. I want no

967
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: problems with no motherfucking jaguars. Nigga.

968
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: I'm six thirty in the morning look at that shit,

969
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 3: Like God damn, It's like I gotta do them like that,

970
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: nigga wild and Bro, they I mean, and then they're

971
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: beautiful too, like beautiful majestic fucking animals. Yo.

972
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: Anyway, man, Wow, is it's different out there? Bro.

973
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: Whenever I see a video like the Lion Hyena one,

974
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: I always have two thoughts, which is I bet like

975
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: like we are also animals, we just happen to have brains, like.

976
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: We are the like you know what we are?

977
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: We are we are When they say we share ninety

978
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: eight percent of our DNA with chimpanzee, is like, I

979
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: know there's people who who hear that or you know

980
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: and are like what, but like, if you think about

981
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: taking a ball of clay molding it into a chimpanzee

982
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: or molding it into a person, you're doing ninety eight

983
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: percent of the same shit.

984
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 3: Rightnoble apes like one chromosome away from being like.

985
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: You're very closely related.

986
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 4: Yeah these animals, do you know what I'm saying?

987
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: Like my cat is very closely related biologically to a lion,

988
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: and so part of me thinks, I bet it's it

989
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: is more like this than we want to pretend that

990
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: it is. But then it's also completely different than it's

991
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: like you're talking about the jaguar dragging a crocodile up

992
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: the truck.

993
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: We don't have any of that, you know what I mean?

994
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: What we got this comparing to like let me come on, Like,

995
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about the jump and shit, you

996
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

997
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: And I've talked about maybe the perception of.

998
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: You know, what would happen in a wild when somebody

999
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: pulled out the gun and shot somebody, You know what

1000
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like some you know?

1001
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: But what what what it's.

1002
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: That I don't think there's a whole lot of similarities, bro,

1003
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: I don't.

1004
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: I think how else do you explain? How else do

1005
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: you explain the history of humanity?

1006
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: Though, Like we talk about cultural identities, and we talk

1007
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: about morality and all this stuff, But it's the history

1008
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: of humanity, not just whoever has acquired the most power

1009
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: doing everything they can to exercise that power.

1010
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: But lions aren't trying to be powerful. They just are.

1011
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 4: But if they can hold a gun, they would be,

1012
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1013
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: But the thing is they they attacked because they got

1014
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: this survival. We just doing it because we bored nigga

1015
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: like a nigga at the crib. Like I don't like

1016
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: these niggas because of the color. I don't like them

1017
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: because it is I'm going to you know what I mean?

1018
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 3: Like we I think that's totally our.

1019
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: Existence is totally different.

1020
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: They they kill, They do things for things for reasons

1021
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: that make way more sense, Like it's we are we

1022
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 3: are the most nonsensical beings on the fucking planet.

1023
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: Bro, we are weird. It doesn't make sense. You know,

1024
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 2: how is she gonna explain, motherfucking let's get this ship,

1025
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: let's get we gonna explain to them on.

1026
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: A lion is probably like this, nigga, really listen, you

1027
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 3: think this is slap.

1028
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: This is the best rapper alive right now.

1029
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: The Lion doesn't listen to any rap recorded after nineteen

1030
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: ninety six, like boom, rap rap only for a light.

1031
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: This this was John.

1032
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, oh no, but I

1033
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: think we're the most non cisical beings.

1034
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: Like I don't think it compares in most ways, you

1035
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1036
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 6: I think I think humans we definitely over complicate our existence.

1037
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 6: But I do think that you can probably if you

1038
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 6: peel back the layers enough, the root of a lot

1039
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 6: of the you know, terrible ship we do. It's kind

1040
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 6: of like, yeah, it's for It's kind of the same

1041
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 6: rational of that you know, animals ship that they need

1042
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 6: to do for survival. Like like you know, wolves are

1043
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 6: extremely territorial. If you up into another wolf's territory, that yeah,

1044
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 6: that wolf pack will kill you ass because you can't

1045
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 6: come over here eating our fucking deer.

1046
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: Bro, this is us, you know what I mean?

1047
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and like and like you know, with like

1048
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 6: the colonialism and shit, motherfuckers exploiting other places for resources

1049
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 6: and shit, like you can kind of draw all the

1050
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 6: similar parallels here, like it was kind of driven by

1051
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 6: like the same type of animalistic shit, you know what

1052
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 6: I mean.

1053
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: I mean it resulted in animalistic city. But the reason

1054
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: it was like they went to East India because all

1055
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: the seasonings and they wanted to steal their fucking their.

1056
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: Jewelry, you know. You know what I'm saying.

1057
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 3: You know, like that like bro, like you know, like yeah,

1058
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: I don't know like even like what they do due

1059
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: to Africa and shit, you know what I'm saying, Like

1060
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 3: still in all the natural resources, that's not for survival,

1061
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: that's just for like money, that's for like power, you

1062
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

1063
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 2: They're exploiting it for those reasons.

1064
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: So I don't know, like those things are, but those

1065
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: things are biology. That biological imperative is related to survival.

1066
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: It's related in a way, but it doesn't it's not

1067
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: for survival, Like you will survive you.

1068
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree with you that it's not.

1069
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you that it is not actually, but

1070
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: I do think that that's it's the same. Like you've

1071
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: heard the Kurt Vonnaguet Joseph Heller's story that they're at

1072
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: a party and Vonnaguet points to a guy at the

1073
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: party and he goes, that guy has you know here

1074
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: we are that were these two acclaimed authors.

1075
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: Whatever. This dude's a hedge fund manager. He's made more money.

1076
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: He makes more money in a day than the two

1077
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: of us will ever make in our whole life. And

1078
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: Joseph Heller said, but I have something that he'll never have,

1079
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: And Vonnaguer goes, what And Joseph Heller says, enough, right,

1080
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: Like that's human beings. Like if we if any of

1081
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: us had the ability, all three of us right now

1082
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: are sitting indoors with electricity, indoor plumbing, the internet, and

1083
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: air conditioning, right, ninety nine percent of the history of

1084
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: humanity would have Like the richest person on planet Earth

1085
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: did not have all of those things. I know people

1086
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: who are very poor who have those four things, right,

1087
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: but they feel like they're very poor. Or when I

1088
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: didn't have money, I felt it, Like, but if you

1089
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: think of the history of everything, we do have enough.

1090
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 4: But that's just it's not the way our brains evolve.

1091
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: Like that's why we build cities, that's why we build cars,

1092
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: That's why we build cars that goes faster. Is the

1093
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: human brain can't be satisfied with enough. It's just not

1094
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: wired to do it. And so I do think that

1095
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: it's animal.

1096
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: Like in that way.

1097
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: Like I think it's the same thing as we talk

1098
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: about animal turkeys or pigs, whatever, eating until they kill themselves,

1099
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we're comparing ourselves with

1100
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: turkeys and pigs are the dumbest fucking beings.

1101
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 10: In the animal kingdom, not named not not that aren't human,

1102
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. Like, so we're still, you know,

1103
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 10: bottom rung when it comes to our decision making for

1104
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 10: the most part.

1105
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: You know, watch the video of the hyenas and the lions.

1106
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: What wrung do you think you're on in that? I

1107
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: could write a book, you.

1108
00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: Know, right right, get not motherfucker, don't ask me, but

1109
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: I can write it.

1110
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: But I could write a book.

1111
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 11: I know words like tenable, nigga.

1112
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: I could grind up some seeds and paint red marks

1113
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: on the cave wall.

1114
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: Like that's what.

1115
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 12: I've got, right, right, right, right.

1116
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 4: Okay, the last thing we have to talk about.

1117
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: I mentioned there was two videos going around this one

1118
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: I no one was getting their ass whooped in it,

1119
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: so it didn't go.

1120
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: Around as much as the lions and hyenas one.

1121
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 4: But they recorded in England a duck mimicking with freakish,

1122
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: eerie similarity the human voice in that This duck said

1123
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 4: you bloody fool, because he'd heard some old man who

1124
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 4: went to his duck pond saying that shit over and

1125
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: over again. And so the duck is part of its

1126
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: mating ritual where it's just making different noise.

1127
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 2: It says, you bloody fool, you bloody food, you bloody fool.

1128
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: British accident, everybody.

1129
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 4: What the fuck? That creeped me the fuck out.

1130
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: And that did make me feel like we're very low

1131
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: on the totem pole, like because languages basically are that's

1132
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: what we have, Like we have a developed language and

1133
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: ability to communicate and stuff. And this duck was just

1134
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: he sounded like Michael Myers or something like. It sounded

1135
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: like a you know, like a seventies eighties horror movie

1136
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: like Mental Patient, like Michael.

1137
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: That ship was creepy as fuck. It was.

1138
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 6: I think that animals mimicking human speech is impressive, but

1139
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 6: I'm curious to how the why the duck is saying

1140
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 6: that while mating, Like what and what capacity was was

1141
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 6: the human that he heard from? Like how did he

1142
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 6: How did this duck associate that with with a reward

1143
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 6: or something?

1144
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1145
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 6: Was he saying this while he was feeding them or

1146
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 6: something or like? That's That's what I'm curious about, because

1147
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 6: because call it someone a bloody idiot or you ain't

1148
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 6: gonna get no ass like that, bro, Like you got

1149
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 6: a sweet talking like you know what I'm saying.

1150
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: Talk they made stroke, you know what I mean.

1151
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: She wanted him to talk bad to it, you know, bloody, that's.

1152
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: All the act, that's all the ad, you know what

1153
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: I mean. Ship, I don't know, man, that's wild though.

1154
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: That's wild.

1155
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 11: I mean to me, like imitation is interesting that they

1156
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 11: can do that, But if they're like actually communicating using

1157
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 11: that ship, that that's what's wild to me.

1158
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. The mimicry is just so.

1159
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: It was.

1160
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: It was just very like uncanny. It was very something

1161
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: about it was very unsettling to me.

1162
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: It sounded like a human voice.

1163
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 11: It's like you said, it sounded like a human voice.

1164
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: That was weird. It didn't sound like a duck imitating

1165
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: a human. It's like a human. I sound like a human.

1166
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: That was a little off, you know what I mean?

1167
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyler, to your point, maybe it's just because it

1168
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: was a unique noise that the duck figured out it

1169
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: could make. I mean, that's like that's how three year

1170
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: olds operate, you know what I mean. Like there's maybe

1171
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: some met similarity there as someone who's lived with three years.

1172
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 11: But that's the beginning of something though, That's the beginning,

1173
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 11: right right, right right?

1174
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: Yes? Interesting.

1175
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 6: Are you all familiar with the with with Alex the

1176
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 6: African gray parent? No, No, like the smartest fucking animal

1177
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 6: that ever existed. I'm going to read something from from

1178
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 6: his wiki. It was it was an African gray parent

1179
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 6: who they who they actually taught to speak and communicate

1180
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 6: within and he, this parent, would you know, use sentences

1181
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 6: and phrases and answer questions and pose questions, and he

1182
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 6: communicated the way humans communicated with humans. So it said

1183
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 6: Alex had a vocabulary of one hundred words, but was

1184
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 6: What was exceptional is that he appeared to have understanding

1185
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 6: of what he said. For example, when Alice was shown

1186
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 6: an object and asked about its shape, color, or material,

1187
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 6: he could label it correctly. He could describe a key

1188
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 6: is a key no matter what its size or color,

1189
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 6: and could determine how the key was different from others.

1190
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 6: Looking at a mirror he wants, said what color and

1191
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 6: learned gray after being told gray six times. This made

1192
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 6: him the first and only non human animals who have

1193
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 6: ever asked a question, and then existential question at that.

1194
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 6: Apes who have been trained to use sign language have

1195
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 6: so far failed to ever ask.

1196
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: A single question. That's an interesting fucking fact.

1197
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 6: Alex's ability to ask questions and to answer questions with

1198
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 6: his own questions at times is documented in numerous articles

1199
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 6: and interviews.

1200
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: That bird was smart as fuck? Was that a deep fact?

1201
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: Was that a deep bak?

1202
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 11: I'm wondering, like, is that something that could happen and

1203
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 11: then other animals like you know, and not become the

1204
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 11: norm for animals like that?

1205
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: Is that just just a one time type?

1206
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 6: They put a lot of work in with this parrot,

1207
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? They reared it from when

1208
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 6: it was a hatchlingk T when it passed at like

1209
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 6: twenty five years old. So I don't think this is

1210
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 6: something that would naturally occur in the way.

1211
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.

1212
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 3: I thought they realized this bird was, you know, abnormally

1213
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 3: intelligent and then started working with it due to that.

1214
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering that you thought it was you thought

1215
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: it was a good will hunting, but with the parrot, that.

1216
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: Is the exact thing I thought it was. That is

1217
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: the perfect analogy.

1218
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: Actually, they're like, this bird is not just picking up

1219
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: the cubes of bread, he's actually arranging them into intricate patterns.

1220
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: We've got to get him into a gifted right, right,

1221
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: he was tagged talented and gifted.

1222
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 6: I'm very I'm very intrigued by the fact that as

1223
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 6: long as we've taught apes to sign, no ape has

1224
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 6: ever asked a question like apes don't give a fuck

1225
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 6: about what humans got going on and good for them, man, like,

1226
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 6: you know, don't worry about how born as exists as

1227
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 6: humans living we do taxes and ship bro like sticking,

1228
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 6: you know, eating grapes and apricots and bananas and ship

1229
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 6: have you actually.

1230
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 11: Seen have you seen ah of the zoo, like an

1231
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 11: ape at the zoo, Like they are so like like

1232
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 11: annoyed with like I've seen.

1233
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: That's that's what makes me realize that, you know, we

1234
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: are closer than we would like to admit. I'll see

1235
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: very human reactions to how annoyed.

1236
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 12: They roll their eyes and shit like this, Like you know,

1237
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 12: I remember I saw a eight eating a banana and

1238
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 12: he ducked off to a corner because you wanted some

1239
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 12: privacy the banana, and two kids ran over like yay,

1240
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 12: like by the window to trying to like tap in

1241
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 12: the window, and the look that.

1242
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 11: He gave them kids was God damn, I can't get them.

1243
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 11: I fucking walked off like up and I was like

1244
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 11: everybody was like like kind of laughing because like he

1245
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 11: walked away, but I'm looking at I was.

1246
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: I was like like I gassed because I'm like that

1247
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 2: face was one of you. I could have made that face,

1248
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: y'all have made that face before, you know what I mean,

1249
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: Like she was wild.

1250
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: I think something that was like going back to the

1251
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: Lion Hyaena video, something that I think about a lot

1252
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: is it's just it's about power to animals. It's about

1253
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: like the power and your size and your threat level

1254
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: and everything. So a gorilla talking to us must be

1255
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 1: like the way we now at cats, or or will

1256
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: make dog noises at a dog right Like they don't,

1257
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't see a human being and think, oh,

1258
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: this is an animal that has evolved beyond me. They

1259
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: think like, look at this little guy. He wants me

1260
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: to point to this rock.

1261
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 3: That's cute, But I figured you catch him in the wild.

1262
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, that's silber bad.

1263
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 3: Well, you're right accidentally accidentally like drag a grown ass

1264
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 3: man like four or five feet like on some let

1265
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 3: me show you what time it is real quick, y'all

1266
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: need to go back.

1267
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 2: Home, Bubba. You know what I'm saying. I don't know

1268
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: what he was filming. Did y'all see that?

1269
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 11: And he walked by and grabbed his foot and the

1270
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 11: man was like like, oh shit, you know what I mean.

1271
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 6: I remember reading about Alex the parrot I just told

1272
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 6: you about, and they said some days he would be

1273
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 6: in a bad mood and he would be difficult. He

1274
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 6: would purposely wrongly answer questions like they would ask him.

1275
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 6: You know the color of a cherry and he would

1276
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 6: say like yellow or something, and then they said the

1277
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 6: next day he would apologize, like that is fucking amazing

1278
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 6: to me. Brod read up on Alex the Great Parrot.

1279
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 6: It is fucking intriguing.

1280
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: I need a Planet of the Alex the African Gray

1281
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: Parrot fucking trilogy tomorrow. That was so wild. That's crazy.

1282
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 3: I want to cry, like my eyes are wi that

1283
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: is that's amazing.

1284
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: Jesus. I wonder if Alex the Great Parent would purposefully

1285
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: eat bad food the night before he had a five

1286
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: K sabatash himself.

1287
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: How developed was his consciousness.

1288
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 4: They're like, you got a big test.

1289
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: Tomorrow, Alex, and he was like, I'm gonna stay up

1290
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: late playing video games tonight.

1291
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: If I don't try, I can't fail.

1292
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: It might have been harder for him to persuade himself

1293
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 3: than is for us to persuade ourselves.

1294
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: At least I'll say that.

1295
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: All right, this has been Jenkinson Jones, thank you so

1296
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: much for listening to us. We'll be back on Thursday.

1297
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: As a reminder, one of the things we'll be doing,

1298
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Marvel what.

1299
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: If on Thursdays. OK.

1300
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: People have been asking us to talk about these last

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Speaker 1: couple episodes, so we're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: But we're all also starting book two on the book club.

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Speaker 1: It's Clint Smith's How the Word Has Passed, and we

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Speaker 1: are reading through the end of the Angola Prison chapter.

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Speaker 1: It's the first hundred pages or so, so make sure

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Speaker 1: you get that book and check out the first hundred

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Speaker 1: pages if you're behind. Obviously, the podcast is still going

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Speaker 1: to be there, but that's the book we're doing next,

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Speaker 1: and we're, like I said, we're gonna read the first

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Speaker 1: hundred pages and so so we will see you on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I hope everyone has a great start to their week,

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Speaker 1: you

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Speaker 6: Know, just make it a good one, guys, allright, bye

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Speaker 6: bye bye,