WEBVTT - A Harrowing AND Heartwarming Listener Phone Call Extravaganza 

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<v Speaker 1>What's that at the Bed's spooky? Hey, Judy, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, Nanda's.

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<v Speaker 3>Collease hey boo, it's me Raz and welcome to Ghosted

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<v Speaker 3>by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people

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<v Speaker 3>that I like about the paranormal.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, it's my favorite. A listener phone call extravaganza. What

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect way to end this year. As always, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be on a listener phone call episode,

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna do? Send me an email Ghosted by

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<v Speaker 1>Raz at email dot com. Subject line listener episode. If

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<v Speaker 1>you write like, oh, I have ghost stories, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know when it's time for a listener episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the travel Gown. So we're looking for the word

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<v Speaker 1>listener in the subject line. Okay, so you're right, listener

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<v Speaker 1>episode and then you just give like one sentence bullet

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<v Speaker 1>points of what your stories are like, and then that

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<v Speaker 1>way we can look through and find listeners. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the holidays and we will be taking off next

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<v Speaker 1>week and the next week. It's something we do every year,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't you worry, babe, We're going to be back

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<v Speaker 1>with a bang in the new year, so you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>in my heart. I hope to be in yours as well.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're really missing me, I don't know. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you could go watch my YouTube channel well raz Hernandez

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<v Speaker 1>a cameo. I'm on cameo. You just type in my name,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find me. I'll send a message to your loved

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<v Speaker 1>one or you know, you can always check out our

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<v Speaker 1>merch at the exactly right merch store. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>cute enamel pin. We've got a sweater. I sell polaroids

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<v Speaker 1>link tree. There's options. But anyway, let's talk to some listeners. God,

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<v Speaker 1>I love talking to listeners. This first one is Haley,

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<v Speaker 1>and Haley has had experiences with everything. We even get

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<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot. So let's hand it on over to Haley

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<v Speaker 1>and with the show. I'm for Hailey from Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Okay you, according to this email I received, you

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<v Speaker 1>are the ultimate triple threat, honey, because you've got UFO, Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>and ghosts.

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<v Speaker 2>I do it all, I do it all.

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<v Speaker 1>You could do it all that is, Uh, there's diversity

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<v Speaker 1>in these stories. You are well rounded in your paranormal experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one do we start with? I gotta hear Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we start with Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So I will say being a triple threat.

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<v Speaker 4>I come from northwest Florida, and I know everyone has

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<v Speaker 4>heard of Florida Man.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's probably why we have so many stories. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I was nineteen, I was transferring to Florida State,

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<v Speaker 4>and like at your average nineteen year old, I wasn't really.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinking through what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was registering for my classes, and my hometown

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<v Speaker 4>is about an hour from Tallahassee. I send up for

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<v Speaker 4>a seven am class in Tallahassee, which is on Eastern Time,

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<v Speaker 4>not realizing that was a six am Central Time class.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was leaving my house every day I had

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<v Speaker 4>to be out by four forty five am.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I don't know how I did it, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I didn't a lot of time. But one of

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<v Speaker 2>the day when I was.

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<v Speaker 4>On the road, you have to pass through hense forests

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<v Speaker 4>to get to the interstate, and it's we had been

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<v Speaker 4>eclectrical and national forests and it was one.

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<v Speaker 2>Morning, it was like four thirty four to forty five.

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<v Speaker 4>I was driving through and all of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 4>see something coming from the right out of the forest,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like into the road, and it looked at me.

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<v Speaker 4>We made eye contacts, and it was a sick but

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<v Speaker 4>I swear to gone a standing by that till the

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<v Speaker 4>day I die.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me what I look like.

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<v Speaker 4>It was what you would expect, I guess whenever people

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<v Speaker 4>say it, just like super tall, Harry, just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're as age generic, just good old fashioned, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>all is reliable. And we locked eyes and it chilled

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<v Speaker 4>me to my core. I was like terrified because I

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<v Speaker 4>knew that I had seen something that I wasn't supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to see. And all I can like compare it to

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<v Speaker 4>is if you saw like a huge crime going down

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<v Speaker 4>and the people that were committing that crime, like you

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<v Speaker 4>guys locked eyes and they knew that.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw what they were doing, like witness protection.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>I started crying. I was calling my mom and she

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<v Speaker 4>was like, don't call me, just early.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no sympathy, but it was a memory like

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<v Speaker 2>I will never forget it, and I've told my wife

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I sway right, and she's just like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>believe it's out there, but not in Florida, but in

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<v Speaker 4>the Athletesiclon National Forest.

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<v Speaker 2>He has come shore where.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you you know, it was not a bear.

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<v Speaker 2>It was no, it was not a bear. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen bears several times. We have a lot of like

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<v Speaker 2>black bears, and it was not.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not a bear, like a more human face.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And he was standing straight upright and it had

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<v Speaker 4>you know, those long arms and kind of like the

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<v Speaker 4>big steps and swinging arms.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was truly the.

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<v Speaker 4>Most terrifying thing I've ever seen in my entire life

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<v Speaker 4>because I knew that I was not supposed to see it,

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<v Speaker 4>and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Locked eyes with you to see this could have been

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<v Speaker 1>like a round com It could have this bigfoot was

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<v Speaker 1>falling in love with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you could have seen me in the

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<v Speaker 4>car looking like I looked, I think he would have

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<v Speaker 4>just turned away so quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>But he couldn't tell because of the headlights.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's where I really was able to connect for

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<v Speaker 4>just a minute because he couldn't see what I looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Uh Okay, So we got bigfoot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let me hear about an alien or a UFO situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So these are the crazy stories that you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>no one's gonna believe me when I say this, and

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<v Speaker 4>it makes you want to not tell people because there's

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<v Speaker 4>anything that you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I get it, I get it. Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you enough to just worry about me. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>so't I don't need to add this in.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I was talking to my cousin, Caitlin, and

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<v Speaker 4>she was talking about how her and her then boyfriend

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<v Speaker 4>had gone out. They were in pen northwest Florida, driving

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<v Speaker 4>around like hunting, and they were going out of the

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<v Speaker 4>hunting leaves and they were just kind of chining and

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<v Speaker 4>seeing if they have like any deer that were kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like showing up out there, and they saw this

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<v Speaker 4>strange light in the sky. And we do have a

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<v Speaker 4>little airport in town, and they'll do a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like army training exercises and so yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they always say.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they'll give you a heads up and say like hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing these exercises or we're you know, doing stuff

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<v Speaker 4>out in the woods, or we're you know, doing a

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<v Speaker 4>little practice man hunting situation. There's always something going on.

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<v Speaker 4>But they saw the same in the sky, and the

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<v Speaker 4>way that it was moving was just not average at all,

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<v Speaker 4>and it would kind of go vertical a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>and then kind of horizontal and just stay there.

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<v Speaker 2>And her boyfriend had this huge like maghlighte and just shined.

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<v Speaker 4>It up at that to see if they if they

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<v Speaker 4>could see anything any kind of detailer you know, how

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<v Speaker 4>big it was. And immediately when they did that, it

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<v Speaker 4>like flashed its lights and just went off like completely black.

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<v Speaker 4>And we were talking about and she said that she

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<v Speaker 4>was like killed to the bone. She knew like that

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't right. We were not up just to see that,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we both had that same kind of experience

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<v Speaker 4>where you've seen something that you knew was not meant

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<v Speaker 4>for you to see, and that just fear of oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, are they.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to come for me?

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<v Speaker 4>She was sharing that, and that was what finally let

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<v Speaker 4>me be like, okay, let me tell you about Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Something about your family, you guys are or maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>are supposed to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I well.

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<v Speaker 4>And then this was you know, obviously before the government

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<v Speaker 4>released all the information about aliens, and so after that

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<v Speaker 4>it all came out.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I knew it. I knew it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm just waiting on them to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Bigwood now, yes, waiting for that to be let out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now tell me a ghost story.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So my grandma we were very very close, and like

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<v Speaker 4>back in the seventies, she was super super skeptical, but

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<v Speaker 4>a few of the girls that she worked with were

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<v Speaker 4>really into going to this poem reader, so she went

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<v Speaker 4>with them a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>One time she went and.

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<v Speaker 4>The woman told her that she was going to have

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<v Speaker 4>some man expressed his admiration or you know, desire to

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<v Speaker 4>be with her in that week. And then another one

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<v Speaker 4>told her she was going to be married or sent

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<v Speaker 4>her life with a tall, dark haired man, and that

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<v Speaker 4>she would die in a fire. Oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Then also grandma told me that one time she

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<v Speaker 2>had done a weekly board.

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<v Speaker 4>Also I'm not sure this was before after the poem readers,

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<v Speaker 4>but that it also told her she would die in

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<v Speaker 4>a fire. So you know stuff, I'm like, okay, this

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<v Speaker 4>is crazy. Why would you even ask? The questions are like,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't want to know. Well, you know, Graham didn't

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<v Speaker 4>believe it at all. And then the next week after

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<v Speaker 4>the first palm reader, she was picking her son up

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<v Speaker 4>from baseball practice and his coach asked her out on

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<v Speaker 4>a date.

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<v Speaker 2>And my grandpa was a truck.

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<v Speaker 4>Driver, so that wasn't around much, and the coach had

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<v Speaker 4>no idea that Graham was married. So that's the first

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<v Speaker 4>poem reader, you know, personal expressing admiration, wanting to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>be with her.

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<v Speaker 2>That came true.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and then several years later said grandpa wound up

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<v Speaker 4>leaving her and the kids, and she moved back to

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<v Speaker 4>her hometown in Florida, and she wound up meeting and

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<v Speaker 4>marrying my papa, who is a tall dark man. So

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<v Speaker 4>of course I'm existed in this and so in the

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<v Speaker 4>back of my mind, I'm just saying, like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 4>guy's going out in a fly in a fire, like

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<v Speaker 4>just blaze of glory like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would avoid every I wouldn't even go near a

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<v Speaker 1>lighter matches nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so here's where our family humor gets a little morbid.

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<v Speaker 4>So my grandma found like really bad help, and she'd

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<v Speaker 4>be lifelighted several times since I had a few year

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<v Speaker 4>death medical experiences, and she was my best friend and

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't really bear the thought of ever losing her.

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<v Speaker 4>So whenever they would take her away and the joance

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<v Speaker 4>their helicopter, we would joke and it's like, hey, this

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<v Speaker 4>isn't your time, baby girl, just going out in that fire.

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<v Speaker 4>And she's like, you're right, You're right, this isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta wait for the fire. And it would just

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<v Speaker 4>weirdly calm us to say that.

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<v Speaker 6>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an old I mean, I like that. Well, at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, she gets really bad.

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<v Speaker 4>She's on full time oxygen, so she plugged up the

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<v Speaker 4>machine NonStop. She is almost completely bedbound. She's basically able

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<v Speaker 4>to just get from her bed to her bathroom and

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<v Speaker 4>then back to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>That was all she could do.

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<v Speaker 4>And in twenty twenty one, she was in her bathroom

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<v Speaker 4>and she looked over into the laundry and that was attached,

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<v Speaker 4>and she watched as her electrical box caught on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Knock it off, Sorry to God. So she is like

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<v Speaker 2>screaming for my grandpa.

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<v Speaker 4>He is in his little man cave across the house asleep,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's almost completely deaf, so obviously he could not

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<v Speaker 4>hear anything. So like naturally one would assume like this

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<v Speaker 4>is it homegirl's time something. I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 4>came over her or into her, but she was able

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<v Speaker 4>to get up. She took her oxygen off, she walked

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<v Speaker 4>across the house, got my grandpa called nine on one,

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<v Speaker 4>got dim and her dog out of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>So somehow she said all through it their lives.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure what exactly happened that day, but Graham

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<v Speaker 4>was like a little different after after the fire, they

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<v Speaker 4>wounds up moving to my mom's house in Tennessee, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Graham's back to her usual help of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>oxygen full time, almost completely dead balanced. So when they

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<v Speaker 4>moved up there, my mom had told me, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Graham's I think she's like declining a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>She keeps talking to her parents like they're in the

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<v Speaker 2>room with us.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was living in Tennessee, I'd moved there like

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<v Speaker 4>a year before, so I was glad I was able

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<v Speaker 4>to spend some time with them. And my parents went

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<v Speaker 4>to a wedding and so my then girlfriend and I

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<v Speaker 4>went to stay with my Grandmampapa and we were straightening

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<v Speaker 4>up the house.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was vacuuming, and as I'm vacuuming.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if everyone doesn't. So like, you take

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of steps for and the couple steps back.

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<v Speaker 4>You just trying to make sure you get it real good.

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<v Speaker 4>As I'm backing up, I'm back into a person. And

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<v Speaker 4>I just assumed it with my girlfriend because I knew

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<v Speaker 4>my grandparents were and their requiners, and so I just

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<v Speaker 4>turned around, was like, oh, I'm so sorry. I look

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<v Speaker 4>and she's in the kitchen and there was nobody behind me,

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<v Speaker 4>and my face went wide.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so cold. And my grandma just looked at

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<v Speaker 2>me and said, oh, that's just daddy. He's fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, okay, cool, cool cool. So then Graham.

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<v Speaker 4>June of twenty twenty two, they were back at their

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<v Speaker 4>house in Florida. Now we talked to her on sohone

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<v Speaker 4>all the time, and she really started to decline. So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the whole family came in.

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<v Speaker 2>We were it was like a movie scene. When she passed.

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<v Speaker 4>We were all just like circled around her bed, telling

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<v Speaker 4>her how much we loved her. She kept telling us

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<v Speaker 4>that her mom had come to fear and wanted her

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<v Speaker 4>to go with her, and so we're like, Graham, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's okay, like we'll take care of each other, you

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<v Speaker 4>can go. And it was the sweetest thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad I was there.

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<v Speaker 4>So grandpasses and one of her last things that she

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<v Speaker 4>asked was if I would do her hair and makeup

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<v Speaker 4>for the funeral.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did. And I don't know if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>had people talk to you about this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm imagining this is just gonna be this beautiful moment,

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<v Speaker 4>like me do my grandma's pair makeup for the last time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>They put me in a room and my aunt decided

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<v Speaker 4>she was going to come too, and it was my

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<v Speaker 4>grandma perst particular to my grandma, there were three.

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<v Speaker 2>Other men deceased in the room with us, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the more cause she's like, all right, well

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<v Speaker 4>here she is, and you know, it's a small town.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's like, take care of my cousin.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So as I'm like doing your makeup, I'm bumping in

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<v Speaker 4>to these men no, and I'm just like, oh, sor,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry. And my aunt, who I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>are morbid humor.

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<v Speaker 4>Mentioned one of the gentlemen's noses and she's like oh

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<v Speaker 4>my gosh, the thing is huge.

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<v Speaker 2>You could just write it. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>dear God, and I am just like apologizing for please

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<v Speaker 2>with me, and I'm like you, we don't mean it,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't mean it. Please don't come back to haunt.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like I think you look great, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling Grandma, like I want you to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want these men. I don't know. So we

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<v Speaker 2>had just kind of drug about that and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>light in the movie Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 4>One night in my apartment, I have, you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>really been talking to her every night and like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I love you, miss she please come see me if.

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<v Speaker 2>You can, please come see me.

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<v Speaker 4>And one night I had this super vivid dream and

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<v Speaker 4>she was sitting next to me in the bed and

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<v Speaker 4>she told me, She's like, hey, I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, I want to come back. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>come see you, but it's really.

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<v Speaker 7>Hard for me to do.

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<v Speaker 4>And she was like still trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 4>to do it, and so she let me know like

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<v Speaker 4>she was there, she was coming, but it was just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of hard for her to figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>And it just gave me so much peace.

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<v Speaker 4>A few months later, I wounded up meeting my now wife,

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<v Speaker 4>and I had brought her home to me my family

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<v Speaker 4>for the first time. And so at this point, my

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<v Speaker 4>mom is living in my grandparents house. She is taking

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<v Speaker 4>care of my grandfather, and my mom's bedroom is my

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<v Speaker 4>grandma's old bedroom where my grandma passed away. And I

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<v Speaker 4>take Beth in, and you know, we're getting ready to

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<v Speaker 4>go out, and everything's fine. Everyone seems to like get along,

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<v Speaker 4>We're great. A couple months later, we're back home in

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<v Speaker 4>Alabama and I said, hey, no, let's get ready to

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<v Speaker 4>plan Easter. We're going to Florida and I mentioned my

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<v Speaker 4>aunt Kim and Beth says, oh, I don't think she

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<v Speaker 4>likes me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why do you say that?

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<v Speaker 4>She just really wasn't wasn't feeling me the last time

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<v Speaker 4>I was there, and I said, best she was not

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<v Speaker 4>even in town when you came. She was like in

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<v Speaker 4>the Lucky and She's like, no, she came in and

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<v Speaker 4>she did not speak to me. She didn't really acknowledge me.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just really weird, and I knew any kim

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<v Speaker 4>usn't there. I even had to call my mom and

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<v Speaker 4>my other aunt. She'd be like, hey, can you please

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<v Speaker 4>reasure best because she does not trust me.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Kin there and was not.

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<v Speaker 4>Beth describes a woman coming into Graham and Papa house.

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<v Speaker 4>She said that she walked her through this front door,

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<v Speaker 4>went to my grandpa's room to check on him, came

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<v Speaker 4>back out, went to my grandma Fuls bedroom, came back

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<v Speaker 4>out and was just standing by me and my aunt

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<v Speaker 4>for a while. And I said, did anyone talk to

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<v Speaker 4>her Best? And she said no, nobody said anything. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought maybe she was your aunt. But if it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't her, maybe it was like a nurse coming to

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<v Speaker 4>see your papa. And I'm like, no, nobody came in,

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<v Speaker 4>I would have introduced you.

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<v Speaker 2>What does this woman look like?

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<v Speaker 4>She described in the perfect detail my grandma Cirka like

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and two.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the craziest, scarious, like all hum of comforting thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think, honestly Graham was there also trying to

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<v Speaker 4>check out best to make sure she was okay to

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<v Speaker 4>join our family, because that was like one of my

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<v Speaker 4>biggest things, Like, oh, I just wish you could have

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<v Speaker 4>met Graham.

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<v Speaker 1>That is incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>And since then my wife is so means that she

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<v Speaker 4>apparently can see quite a bit and has seen her

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<v Speaker 4>debased grandfather and has seen my grandmother since been at.

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<v Speaker 2>Our new house in Alabama. So apparently she has learned

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<v Speaker 2>how to travel.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think that she approves and they get

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<v Speaker 1>along and everything's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. But one of the funniest things I have.

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<v Speaker 4>I keep a couple of pictures of her in my car,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was in the little passenger sun visor. Whenever

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<v Speaker 4>you pull it down, there's a little cliff and it's

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<v Speaker 4>on there some reason that's pulled it down, and I

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<v Speaker 4>know she had to do it, like Graham. Grandma was

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<v Speaker 4>a little staffy, but she pulled it down and the

0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.320
<v Speaker 4>sis here Graham came flying and had the rest the

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<v Speaker 4>face and She's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, tell her to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Has she seen pictures of her from like two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and two and been like, yeah, that's the lady.

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<v Speaker 4>So she had never seen pictures of her before. Really,

0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 4>she had seen my aunt who looked almost identical to her.

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<v Speaker 4>But she was talking like sh had a panicle in

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<v Speaker 4>her hair and she was blaring one of those like

0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.359
<v Speaker 4>HoTT in sweatsuit situations, and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was her, but it was like two thousand and two.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I didn't go in.

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<v Speaker 4>So I found some old pictures and I was hoping

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<v Speaker 4>I could find one of her in like that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of outfit. But I found some old pictures of her

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<v Speaker 4>from around that kind of doesn't like, that's that's who

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<v Speaker 4>I saw that who came in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, so Beth saw her.

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<v Speaker 4>She thought that because she knew like they were like

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<v Speaker 4>looking at each other, because I said, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 4>did any of us even acknowledge her? Surely you can't

0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 4>think her entire family is that rude that we're just

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<v Speaker 4>gonna completely ignore someone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with the fact that when she chose to

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<v Speaker 1>come back, she's chosen like Sweatsuit two thousand and two,

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<v Speaker 1>like the juicycatur What are we talking?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm like imagining like Jessie just Rittler, but like

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<v Speaker 4>and she's just got this a little popping figure back

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<v Speaker 4>and she's just showing it all off.

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<v Speaker 7>Like look at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, like go for comfort if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a ghost. I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Okay, here's a little thing the ghost through. Whenever

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking about what we're going to bury her in,

0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, she's talking to us about it and she

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<v Speaker 4>was all about a mumoo and she's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm buried, this is how I wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be in a comfortable mumu.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not want to brawl on and she had

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<v Speaker 4>ventures and and I want you to take my teeth

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<v Speaker 4>out and just put him in my hand. You didn't

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 4>just bury him in my hand with me. She's like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going out in comfort.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, And she sure did that.

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<v Speaker 4>We got her this cute little like Satine mumou and

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<v Speaker 4>it was yellow, and then we took her.

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<v Speaker 2>Teeth, like, don't even put my teeth end. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be comfortable. Don't put me in a brawl I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to be in that for the rest of eternity.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, she was all about some comfort.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know so many of these ghosts are from

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen hundreds with their corsets, and you know that

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<v Speaker 1>does not seem like a way I would want to

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 1>spend eternity. Take my bra put me in a moomo.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hold my teeth.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm with her on this exactly like I like to

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<v Speaker 6>imagine she was in some sketchers also and she is

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<v Speaker 6>literally just like walking on cloud just comfortable as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing. Well, Haley, you are indeed a triple threat. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you have any other stories in the future, you

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<v Speaker 1>know where to find me. Thank you, Haley. Hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what we need? Kathleen. Who Kathleen's got one of

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<v Speaker 1>these stories. One of these stories the type they would

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<v Speaker 1>make a movie ota. So we're going to hear that

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Kathleen, take it away. I am talking now

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<v Speaker 1>to Kathleen and Philly. Hi, Kathleen, Hi, Rod. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>some stories. Where do we start?

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<v Speaker 8>Well? I do? I have so many stories that we

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<v Speaker 8>should probably start with the fact that I grew up

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 8>in a hunted house.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, what's the story with this house?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, so I was the middle shovel of five kids.

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<v Speaker 8>I know that you've talked about this on your show before,

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<v Speaker 8>but my sister and I played with a Oiji port, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's when things started happening. How old were you

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<v Speaker 8>I was about twelve or thirteen and she was like

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<v Speaker 8>eight or nine when it all began. So this house

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.360
<v Speaker 8>was the house that used to be like the main

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 8>house of an apple farm. But all of the property

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 8>around it was all chopped up into other houses. It

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 8>was a regular neighborhood outside of Pittsburgh, but we did

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 8>have the oldest house in that neighborhood. And the reason

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 8>why I feel pretty confident that the Wiji board is

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:33.119
<v Speaker 8>what opened that door is because nothing had happened before

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:36.360
<v Speaker 8>we played with the Wichi board, and then stuff started happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, what happened.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, the biggest thing, the most pervasive thing, was there

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 8>would be a something behind the headboards of all five

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 8>of us kids, and it was the loud and pervasive

0:24:56.359 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 8>and repetitive and it was just make us up from

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 8>sound sleeps. And every one of us swore that the

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 8>something calming was coming from inside the wall and behind

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 8>each one of our own hudboards.

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 7>Like everyone was like, no, it's on my wall.

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 8>No, it's on my wall, right weird, And I mean,

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 8>it is kind of funny that one of my brothers

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 8>actually like drew a map at one point and was like, hey,

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 8>eds are a different walls. My parents kept trying to

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:34.719
<v Speaker 8>blame that on various things. You know, Oh it's an

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:38.159
<v Speaker 8>old house. Oh there's raccoons to the chimney, you know,

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 8>various things, and we found out years later that they

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 8>also thought it was supernatural, and actually that's probably.

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 7>A little bit of a spoiler because what else went down.

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<v Speaker 8>So so that was the most that everybody experienced, but

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 8>my sister and I had the most and the worst experiences. Okay,

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 8>So we shared a room and we had a big

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 8>walking closet, like it leaves ten feet deep, and.

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 7>People would come out of the closet, just walk out

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 7>of the.

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<v Speaker 8>Closet, talking only to each other, not even looking at us,

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 8>but talking to each other, and.

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 7>We would just be laying there.

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Where would they go if they would walk out the door.

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 8>And into the hallway what And they would be very

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 8>engaged in these conversations with each other, and it was

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 8>all different people, so many different people.

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 7>We would be terrified, even though they never would look

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 7>at us. So that happened night after night. Whoa you

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 7>know when you watch.

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 8>A scary movie and everybody says, get out, get out

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 8>of that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I understand why they don't.

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 8>These things that were happening were not happening every single night,

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 8>So it was like easy to keep pretending that.

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<v Speaker 7>Like that was a one off that won't happen again.

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 8>You know, we were all raised Catholic, we weren't super

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 8>duper religious, but we would lay there. I really remember

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 8>praying aloud with my sister and saying, don't let it

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 8>happen to me.

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 7>Don't let it happen to me.

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, like how many people a night would we

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>be talking?

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh, ten or twelve?

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 5>What?

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 8>And we would wake up from them talking to each

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 8>other the sound of people coming through the room.

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Would you ever hear what they were talking about?

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 7>No, it sounded like you know, your EVPs would just

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 7>you know, just voice it.

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>So do you think it was like a portal or something?

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 8>Pullly do that goes? That brings me back to the

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 8>Luigi board. I think open a door is going to

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:49.120
<v Speaker 8>walk through.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 5>You know, you can't.

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 8>You can't open your window and expect only butterflies to

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 8>fly in.

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<v Speaker 7>Anything that's a good thing. Yeah, well, I think that's

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 7>what it was.

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.719
<v Speaker 8>And I think, I mean, it's probably interesting to tell

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 8>you too that my parents just refused to hear us.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 7>It was very much.

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 8>I didn't realize this a couple of years ago, but

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 8>it was almost like stranger things. Like we kids were

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 8>all on the second floor, all five of us, and

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 8>My parents' bedroom was on the first floor, and we

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 8>would tell them about this, or we would just start

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 8>screaming and my dad would yell from the bottom of

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 8>the steps, get.

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 7>To bed to bed.

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 8>So like we kids were always trying to figure out

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 8>what the hell was going on and see what pattern

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 8>we could find or whatever.

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 7>But again, this didn't happen every single night.

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 8>It was just sometimes. And then I guess I might

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 8>have said the worst thing. The worst thing happened one

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 8>time that my sister woke up and was talking in

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:57.479
<v Speaker 8>a voice that was in her voice and yeah, oh

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 8>I've got sugar, even now remembering it, we had four

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 8>poster beds.

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 7>Her entire bed was just shaking.

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 8>Oh my god, and she was again using some voice

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 8>that like I don't even know, it will sound so

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 8>silly if I say it.

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 7>But like like an extracoist, like this deep voice.

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 8>But you couldn't understand what she was saying, and I

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 8>lost my mind, as you would imagine. So I was screaming,

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 8>and my older brothers came running in the room because

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 8>they knew my parents were no help and got to

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 8>see enough of it. I did believe that something was

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:41.479
<v Speaker 8>happening in our room that get They like woke her up,

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 8>they like jumped on her. I really remember my oldest

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 8>brother just like bear hogging her. We're all going, you know,

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 8>just saying her name over and over again, you know,

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 8>just going, Karen, Karen, Karen, you know, and kind of

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 8>like woke up. Her eyes were wide open even as

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 8>this other voice was coming.

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 7>Out of her.

0:29:58.440 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 7>And this happened. And embarrassing too that my family let

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 7>this go on so long, but almost a year of this,

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 7>but not all the time, not all the time. And

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 7>that's what allowed us to stay.

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 8>We kids were always trying to figure out what was happening, right,

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 8>So my very oldest brother was at the.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 7>Age of like climbing out the window and partying and stuff.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 7>So at one point, like we all blamed him and

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 7>said he was coming home and thrashing about or whatever.

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 8>Who knows, who knows. You're just looking for something logical, right, right,

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 8>And so he, you know, vowed to stay home. And

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 8>of course it happened even when he didn't go out.

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 8>You know, there was a night that was really bad

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 8>and he didn't go out. So we had not really

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 8>a finished basement that it was still like where we

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 8>had a pool table and a shelves of games, you know,

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 8>and we had stopped playing with the Wigi board because

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 8>we did think that could be the trouble.

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 7>But we had to just downstairs with the games.

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 8>Right. Well, unbeknownst to us, my parents did believe it

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 8>was supernatural, so they took the Wigi board. My father

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 8>took the Wigi board and put it in the trash

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 8>can and put other trash on top of the Wigi board.

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 8>After the trash men left, you know what the next

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 8>part is, right.

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>The Wigi boy came back.

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 8>Yet it did, and my dad, I'm so scared something

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 8>about his instincts just told him, okay, I don't want

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:42.959
<v Speaker 8>to piss anybody off here.

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 7>And he put the Wigi board back down the basement

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 7>and didn't.

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 8>Tell us any of it, but called the priest and

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 8>they pretended that we had never had the house blessed,

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 8>you know, that they were remiss in doing that, and

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 8>so they had priests come bless the house.

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.959
<v Speaker 7>And that was scary. She can mention too, like all

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 7>five of us are like hiding behind furniture and watching

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 7>this guy.

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 8>He had you know, incense in the ball and was

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 8>swinging the balls around and praying and Latin, and he

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 8>went through every room in the house and we're like

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 8>peeping behind furniture and watching him, and we're terrified, terrified.

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 7>So that night that something was the worst it ever was.

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>But the priest swing and his balls is supposed to help.

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 8>I remember that we were just so sad. We were

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 8>so sad that it didn't work, and it was the

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 8>worst it ever was. I am telling you that lights

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 8>were swinging, dishes were rattling, with all of us kids

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 8>ran downstairs, and my parents finally gave up. They came

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 8>out from the room and they were like, we're sorry,

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 8>we gotta go.

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 7>We got to go. Everybody gets shoes on, grab your toothbrushes.

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 7>We're out.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 8>We're gonna go to a motel of the street, right.

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 8>And meanwhile, while we're having this conversation.

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 7>The entire house which is shaking, Oh my god. And

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 7>so we're all ready to go.

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 8>My second oldest brother was in first in mind and

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 8>I was sticking in line, and he put his hand

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 8>on the door knob.

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>And it just went whoa, what do you mean, like

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>a burst open.

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 7>One loud boom that like reverberated in the air.

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 8>Is what had been constant something for the longest ever, loudest,

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 8>longest time ever.

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 7>It all just stopped, frozen place.

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 8>Nobody knew what to do, and we all just looked

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 8>at my dad, you know, with that era down, he

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 8>knew everything. We all just try to look at my

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 8>dad and he goes, it's over. And can you believe it?

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 8>Rose that we stayed up that night. We all stayed

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 8>up together as a family. But it never happened begin.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the pre swing and his balls worked.

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 2>It did work.

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>It just took a little bit, you know, it needed

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to get out of there, yeah.

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 7>Or something like.

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if that whatever that was was still

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 8>like proving something or was angry about it that they

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 8>had to go. You know, I'll never know, never know,

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 8>But my whole family tells the same story. It has

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 8>definitely greatly affected us. And my dad didn't tell us

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 8>about trying to throw away the Ouiji boards.

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 7>So we were all out of that house.

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting. How much longer did you stay there?

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 7>At least fifteen years, probably the whole not everybody you know,

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 7>out of the you.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 4>Know what I mean.

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 8>But my parents stayed at least fifteen twenty years. Yeah,

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 8>and nothing ever happened again. Yeah, And I don't know

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 8>enough about this, but my brother is a journalist and

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 8>he actually did go back to house and visit with

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 8>a couple other families and they had experiences interesting.

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>That's so weird. So it like it just kind of

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>calmed down for fifteen years and then got some new

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>people in there and was like, okay, lights, camera action,

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>let's go.

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 8>I think anything's possible. But I think that like whatever

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 8>it was, I hate to say it like this, like

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 8>we vanquished.

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 7>The bad guy, you know what I mean?

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 8>And I think our family finally won, but then when

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 8>a new family came in, whatever, a dark entity that

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 8>was wanted to be heard.

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 1>Again, Terestic.

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 8>I do believe that some people are more sensitive to things,

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 8>and some people, you know, even draw things. And I

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 8>think there's just something about my family's energy. But Luigi

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 8>Board was definitely opening the window.

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I think, oh my god, Yeah, do you have like

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>one more story you'd want to share?

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 7>And my instincts you're telling me to go with this one.

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.320
<v Speaker 7>This isn't my own, this is my mom and her sister.

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<v Speaker 7>That's guide or do you want another one?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 8>So my mom and her sister dearly loved their grandpa,

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 8>and their grandpa died when they were both pregnant. Okay,

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 8>so this is my mom and my aunt. My aunt

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 8>was I think three months more pregnant than my mom,

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.919
<v Speaker 8>and this grandpa that they loved dearly passed away.

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 9>So years go by and they're sitting at my grandma's

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 9>at some kind of family party and they haven't cocktail,

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 9>and they're talking to each.

0:36:55.719 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 8>Other, and my mom says to her sister, I need

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 8>to tell you something I've never told you that after

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 8>I gave birth to Karen, it was actually Karen ros

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 8>come to think of it, after birth to Karen, it

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 8>came to visit me.

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>The grandfather came to visit.

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>And while she's saying this, my aunt Audrey is just

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 8>sitting in Her eyes are getting bigger and bigger, and

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 8>Audrey said.

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 7>Oh, my body came to see me too.

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 8>They both were crying and they telling each other, telling

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 8>their stories simultaneously, and it was very similar story that

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 8>he just walked in the room. He looked like himself,

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 8>he smelled like his pipe, he was wearing the plaid

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 8>jacket he always wore. All of the details were the same,

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 8>and then he walked over looked at the baby in

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 8>the crib in the master bedroom.

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 7>And how people did that then, I don't know what

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 7>people do now, but you know what I mean.

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 8>They came in, the baby was in the room with

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.760
<v Speaker 8>the mom, and dad came in, looked at the baby

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 8>and then looked at my mom and said, nice baby, Joan,

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 8>and then just turned around and walked out of the room.

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 8>And my mom immediately woke up my father, who had

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 8>fled through it, and said, Granparatus is just your grandparatis

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 8>is this year? And he sat up straight in bed said,

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 8>oh my god, I smell a pipe. And the same

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 8>thing happened with my aunt.

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 7>He had.

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.439
<v Speaker 8>He came in the room, looked at her baby, told

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 8>her beautiful baby. She woke up her husband. Her husband

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 8>smelled the smoke, and so that it was really beautiful moment.

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 7>Rons.

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 8>That was one of those lovely ghost stories because they

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 8>couldn't believe that.

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 7>They didn't share it with each other for like a decade,

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 7>you know.

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 8>And I really remember them just crying and hugging each

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 8>other and they were really happy.

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's such a special story. I love it, so

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 1>that happened too, So it's not all terrifying. Sometimes it's sweet.

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 8>I mean, and one could argue that it brought my

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 8>family closer. I think it did in some way going

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 8>through what we went through.

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but now when you were going through this your family,

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>did it ever occur to you, guys, like we shouldn't

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>get a movie made about this or this is good

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>enough for like a book to be written, Like did

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you ever think about any of that or going to

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the newspaper or anything.

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 8>Kid did, But my parents were firmly wanting to be

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 8>in denial through all of it.

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they just weren't having it.

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I get that. Thank you so much. This was great.

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 7>I really appreciate it. I love you. Yeah, thank you

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 7>very much.

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Damn, Kathleen, that was spooky. Next up, it's Julia, who

0:39:54.520 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 1>lived in a haunted apartment during the pandemic. I hope

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>she got the deposit back.

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 10>Julia, gab me a ghost story. O, my god, from

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 10>the Big Apple.

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>It's Julia. Hi, Julia, Hi, Ras, please tell me you

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>have some New York City ghost stories.

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 5>These ghost stories aren't Ashley New York ghost stories. It

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 5>happened when I left but I hope you'll have them anyway.

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Of course, absolutely. Okay, tell me what stories you got, Okay.

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 5>So I'm originally from the South. I grew up in

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 5>southern Appalachia, and when the pandemic hit in twenty twenty,

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 5>I was living in New York working on my bachelor's

0:40:55.560 --> 0:41:00.720
<v Speaker 5>and I decided pretty immediately once news broke about COVID

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 5>that I wanted.

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 7>To leave the city.

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 2>I did not want to be here.

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 5>My classes were online and there was nothing really, you know,

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 5>tying me here. So a couple of friends that I

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 5>had at the time, two sisters their parents, lived in

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 5>this huge apartment down in North Carolina, and the three

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 5>of us left the city together and had it down

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 5>there in mid March. And so this apartment was in

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 5>a pretty old building. It had been built in the

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 5>early twentieth century, and it was originally a hospital.

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh what could go wrong?

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 5>Interesting vibe. There was a plaque out front from like

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 5>the governments, marking it as like a historical landmark. And

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 5>there was a basement with quite a few small rooms

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 5>that we assumed had to have been the morgue when

0:41:55.680 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 5>the hospital was active. And you know, I'm not an

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 5>elevator expert, but I'm assuming that the elevator that was

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 5>in this building was the original elevator because it had

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 5>like a door with a handle that you opened out

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 5>to reveal a metal gate that you had to slide

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 5>open and shut. And the up and down mechanisms of

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 5>the elevator were literally two buttons, like an up button

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 5>and a down button.

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Perfect like you had.

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 5>To control the whole thing. And I'm going to be

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 5>really honest and say that it is the most beautiful

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 5>place I've ever lived. There were like giant ceilings and

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 5>real wood parquet floors, and our apartment had three balconies.

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:44.360
<v Speaker 5>My god. And the total rent for a three bedroom

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 5>apartment was eleven hundred dollars. So if I had not

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 5>wanted to leave this town, I totally would have stayed

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:53.879
<v Speaker 5>inspite everything that happened here.

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that it was like the apartment was

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>like multiple patient rooms or something.

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Absolutely, From what I read about the building, it

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 5>was originally able to house like twenty to thirty patients

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 5>at a time, and you could like book a room,

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 5>but you also might be like taken there. I don't

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 5>understand how hospitals worked in the early twentieth century.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 2>That you could book a room at the hospital. But

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:26.399
<v Speaker 2>that's what I read.

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 5>And since my friends and their family had lived there

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 5>before the three of us came down, i'd heard a

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 5>couple of stories about the place beforehand. Years back, they

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:41.280
<v Speaker 5>had moved to that apartment from a first floor apartment

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 5>in New York, so they were really used to hearing

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 5>a lot of noise above them, and they told me

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 5>that it had taken them quite a few months to

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 5>realize that they were still hearing the sounds of footsteps

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 5>and you know, general noises above them in this new place,

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 5>even though the apartment was on the top floor.

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>So not good. Oka.

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 5>The worst story that they had told me beforehand was

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 5>of one specific night. The apartment was really long, It

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 5>spanned the whole front of the building, and like you

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.320
<v Speaker 5>brought up, it was like probably a lot of rooms

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 5>just like mushed together, and on one end of the

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 5>apartment was the kitchen and the dining room, and then

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 5>you walked through the living rooms there were two of them,

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 5>and then on the other end of the apartment were

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 5>the bedrooms and the bathroom, and so on this night,

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 5>my friend's mother was laying down on the couch in

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 5>the living room and she heard what she described as

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 5>the sound of someone walking around the dining room table

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 5>a couple of rooms over, and then they made their

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.800
<v Speaker 5>way down the hallway, but she didn't see anything. She

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 5>just heard on the really nice parquet floors, she heard

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:01.320
<v Speaker 5>someone walking down the hallway. Two of the bedrooms in

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 5>the back shared Jack and Jill style bathroom, and so

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 5>my friend in the first bedroom she recalled that she

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 5>was getting ready for bed in the bathroom, she was

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 5>washing her face or whatever, and she looked up into

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 5>the mirror and she saw the reflection of a man

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 5>standing behind.

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Her classic horror movie.

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 5>And in classic horror movie fashion, when she looked behind,

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 5>there was no one there, and then once she looked

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 5>back into the mirror, he was gone. My other friend,

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 5>who was in the very back bedroom, her bed was

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 5>positioned across the way from a small walking closet. The

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 5>closet didn't have a door, It just had a curtain

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 5>on a rod that she often pushed to one side.

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 5>So on this night, she turned over in bed and

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 5>looked into the closet and she saw the face of

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 5>like something. She said that to her, it looked like,

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, those Chinese lion masks. It looked like that,

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:11.320
<v Speaker 5>but like white, like it was looking at her that

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 5>kind of feeling like it wasn't just something in the

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 5>closet that had been there, It wasn't there before. And

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 5>none of them did anything that night. They didn't like

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.840
<v Speaker 5>run to each other and like say, what was going on.

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 5>It just like came up in the morning. They all

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 5>like shared their experience of something really crazy happened to

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 5>me last night, And then when they put their stories together,

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 5>it made it seem like something might have been moving

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.439
<v Speaker 5>through the apartment, like it moved from the dining room,

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 5>down the hallway, through the bathroom and into the back bedroom.

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 5>I knew all of this going in, So.

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>This is all before you moved in.

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 5>This is all before I moved in, before you heard you.

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Were going to be on lockdown and you were publicly

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>mandated to not go anywhere. Exactly terrifying.

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 5>So you know, despite experiencing multiple paranormal things throughout my life,

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 5>I've always been of the extremely delusional stance that if

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 5>I say that I don't believe in the supernatural, Like

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 5>if I say out loud that I don't believe in it,

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 5>then nothing really bad will ever happen to me? Sure,

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 5>I mean, like to be fair, nothing really bad has

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:37.839
<v Speaker 5>ever happened to me. Deeply unsettling, which is why I'm here,

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 5>But nothing really bad. So we all like moved in

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 5>mid March, and everything considered at the time, you know,

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:49.800
<v Speaker 5>for what was going on in the world, I was

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 5>actually having a pretty good time. The apartment was beautiful,

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:57.800
<v Speaker 5>and nothing very ghosty was going on. The only unsettling

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 5>thing that started pretty immediately was that I would hear

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 5>this scraping noise coming from outside. So there was a

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 5>sidewalk that connected the various apartments to the front entryway,

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 5>and it wound around the building. There would be this

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 5>sound like someone was scraping a rake over the sidewalk.

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 5>But the really weird part about it was that it

0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 5>was kind of a constant sound. It didn't never really

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 5>sound like it was getting closer or farther away. It

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 5>would just start and then it would stop. And I

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 5>looked out the windows on quite a few occasions to

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 5>see if I could see what was making that sound,

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.479
<v Speaker 5>but I never saw anything, even though I could see

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 5>the sidewalk from our windows, and it sounded like it.

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Was right below the windows weird.

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 5>That didn't really bother me that much, so I was like, whatever,

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 5>if I don't see anything, it's not that big of

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 5>a deal. When I really started to get freaked out

0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 5>was with a couple of things happened to me my sleep.

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 5>There was this night where I was woken up by

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:10.919
<v Speaker 5>what felt like someone shouting my name directly into my ear,

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 5>like I remember the feeling of the breast and the

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 5>hotness inside of my ear, But there was nothing there

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 5>when I looked around. Obviously, there never is except for

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 5>when there is. And I really really really do not

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 5>like anything bothering my sleep. I'm the kind of person

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 5>like I'm out in a minute, I'm down the rest

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:38.360
<v Speaker 5>of the night. I've never had any problems with sleep

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 5>paralysis or night peers, so this kind of thing, I

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 5>was like, I really really don't like this. My bed

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 5>was positioned across the way from this short bookshelf that

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 5>had on it one of those lanterns in the shape

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 5>of a Greek statue, like the head of a Greek statue,

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 5>and then the plant like comes out the top like hair.

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 4>Okay, cute, it is really cute.

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 5>One night I woke up in the middle of the night,

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 5>and that kind of waking up where you're like blinking

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.720
<v Speaker 5>and looking around for quite a while before you fully

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 5>realize that you're awake. So I'm coming to and I

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 5>realized that standing right in front of.

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<v Speaker 2>Me is a little boy.

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<v Speaker 5>He was pale and like marginally translucent. It was like

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 5>he was he wasn't fully there, but he also wasn't

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 5>fully see through. He was substantial enough that I could

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 5>like make out strong features on him, but I could

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 5>also see through him some. And as my brain starts

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 5>to register that he's there, he starts leaning towards me,

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 5>and he stops really close to my face. And this

0:50:57.160 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 5>whole time, I'm not moving or anything. I'm not feeling

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 5>particularly scared. I'm just really curious. And so he gets

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 5>really close to my face and he stops and he

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 5>yells run. That's all he says. He just yells at

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 5>me to run. And after he's shouted that in my face,

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:22.479
<v Speaker 5>he just like fades away.

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Did you run?

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 11>No?

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 5>I didn't. I was woken up in the middle of

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 5>the night, and I was like, where am I supposed

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:29.800
<v Speaker 5>to go?

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:30.759
<v Speaker 11>Outside?

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 5>How's that better?

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Right outside?

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 5>Where the rake is being scraped across the sidewalk.

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>The rake Demon's gonna get you, no, And when.

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 5>He fades away, I remember the last thing to go

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 5>was his face. And then when his face disappeared, where

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:51.840
<v Speaker 5>his face had been was the face of that planter.

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:56.800
<v Speaker 5>And so I was like, oh, maybe I was having,

0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 5>you know, a sleep paralysis at the so, except I've

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 5>never had those, and I wasn't scared. I didn't feel

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 5>like I was being trapped or anything. I felt like

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.960
<v Speaker 5>I was just watching something that was going on in

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 5>front of me. But after he faded away, I was like,

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 5>really really scared. But my coping mechanism when things scare

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 5>me in real life, for like watching a movie, is

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 5>to cover my ears. Something about like sound is the

0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 5>worst part of scary things for me. So anytime I

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 5>wake up in the middle of the night from a

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 5>really bad dream, I'll put on a podcast, usually not yours,

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 5>because I don't feel like that helps.

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll get on.

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 5>Like a different podcast or like thunderstorm Sounds. And so

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 5>that's what I did that night and pretty much every

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:55.320
<v Speaker 5>night after that for a really long time, because in

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 5>my head, if I make it impossible for me to

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.319
<v Speaker 5>hear the thing that goes by in the night, then

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 5>it can't do anything to me if I don't hear it.

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Totally, I sleep with white Noise.

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 5>And I know that logic is flat, but it really

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 5>really works for me.

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:16.719
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think it's flawed because, first of all,

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 1>who knows, But there could be a ghost right next

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:24.239
<v Speaker 1>to everyone listening to this podcast right now. We could

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 1>be encountering ghosts all day every day. But if you

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 1>can't see it, you can't hear it, then what's the

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:30.719
<v Speaker 1>big deal?

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 7>Exactly?

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I put on the white Noise machine every single night

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 1>for the exact reason, thank you.

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 5>And after that, like nothing really much happened again in

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 5>that apartment. I would pretty frequently wake up in the

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 5>middle of the night with that like feeling that something

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 5>was wrong or that there was something else in the

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:56.719
<v Speaker 5>room with me, but I would just put on my headphones.

0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:01.960
<v Speaker 5>I think that like that is with the boy beside

0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 5>my bead freaked me out so much that I like

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:10.239
<v Speaker 5>really slammed that like mental door shut in my head.

0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 5>I was like, I don't want any of.

0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 11>This, Like it was crazy for a little while there

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:18.400
<v Speaker 11>where like that thing yelled Julia at me, But I

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 11>don't I don't want any more of this, and so

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 11>I kind of just like said no more.

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 5>Please, Like I really I'm not strong, I don't have fortitude.

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 5>I will not make it out of this a lie,

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:32.840
<v Speaker 5>like you're picking on the wrong person.

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>You are probably just rest like sleeping like a baby

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and a cloud and there's just this invisible boy being.

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:48.239
<v Speaker 5>Like rud rd and you're just like, I can't hear

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 5>you over my thunderstorm on beyond.

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:53.440
<v Speaker 11>Uh.

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:56.400
<v Speaker 1>So do you have other stories you said that you

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>had had experiences previous to that.

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 5>I I do have two others that really stick out

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 5>in my head. Like I mentioned, I grew up in

0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:12.239
<v Speaker 5>the South, and my best friend's house is like kind

0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:15.400
<v Speaker 5>of in a rural area out in the woods. It

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:19.560
<v Speaker 5>used to be a mining community. It used there used

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 5>to be miners who lived there. And it was the

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:27.839
<v Speaker 5>summer after we graduated high school. She at some point

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:31.320
<v Speaker 5>during high school, she had asked her dad to, like

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.239
<v Speaker 5>they had this walk in closet in her bedroom, and

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 5>she'd asked him to like build a little bed in

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 5>the closet. She was sharing a room with her sister,

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.480
<v Speaker 5>so I think she just like wanted a private space

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 5>in that room, and so he like built a little

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 5>bed in the closet that had enough room that you

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 5>could sleep on top, and then you could put like

0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 5>a palette down on the ground beneath it and someone

0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:02.120
<v Speaker 5>could sleep under that like bunk bed style. And we

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 5>were eighteen, and I was like, I will sleep under

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:08.120
<v Speaker 5>the bed. That sounds fun. And so the first night

0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:10.720
<v Speaker 5>I go to do that, it's fine. I fall asleep

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 5>in two minutes like normal, until I wake up in

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 5>the middle of the night and I'm like laying flat

0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 5>on my back and I hear directly above me on

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 5>the wood of the platform holding her bed up above me,

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 5>I hear the sound of someone scratching their fingernail along

0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:37.400
<v Speaker 5>the wood in front of my face, and I unlike

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 5>when the little boy told me to run, and I

0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:42.880
<v Speaker 5>didn't run. I shot out of that bed. I was

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 5>like no, no, no, no, no no. And I went

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 5>to sleep on the couch in the living room. And

0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 5>I told her what happened the next morning, and she said,

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:59.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, sometimes I hear stuff in that room like

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 5>it were out in the woods. There might be stuff

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 5>in the walls, and I'm like, okay, but it was

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 5>like not in the walls. It was right above my face,

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, I will give it one more shots.

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:12.879
<v Speaker 5>I go to sleep the next night under the bed

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 5>and the same thing happens, Like I wake up and

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:18.280
<v Speaker 5>there is something scratching right above my face, and that

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 5>time I remember I shot out of there again and

0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:25.960
<v Speaker 5>I hit my head so hard against the underside of

0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 5>the bed. But I was like, I really don't care.

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 5>I have to be anywhere but here. After that in

0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:37.200
<v Speaker 5>that house, nothing ever really happened. But also on their property,

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:40.240
<v Speaker 5>they have a trailer that they like rent out to

0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 5>friends and stuff, and when there's no one in there,

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 5>it's fully furnished, and so we like to go over

0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 5>there and hang out. And so one night she and

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 5>I were spending the night in there, and we were

0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:57.360
<v Speaker 5>getting ready for bed, and I was like, let me

0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:02.280
<v Speaker 5>go double check that I locked the b So she's

0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 5>like in the bedroom, which is on one side of

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:08.000
<v Speaker 5>the trailer, and then I had to like walk through

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 5>the living room, around a corner, through the kitchen to

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:14.360
<v Speaker 5>the back door. And as I'm walking through the living room,

0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:20.600
<v Speaker 5>I hear someone sneeze and I keep walking and I say,

0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 5>bless you, because I thought it was her. And as

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:26.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm locking the back door. I hear her response that

0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 5>wasn't me, but I heard that too. It's like, right, okay,

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:38.240
<v Speaker 5>so I have to walk back through the living room

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:41.760
<v Speaker 5>I get to see you. And because I was going

0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 5>back through the kitchen, I grabbed a bunch of knives

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 5>and I just booked it. I booked it back into

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.880
<v Speaker 5>the bedroom and we closed the doors, and then we

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 5>like conferred about what our strategy was. We were like, okay,

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:57.439
<v Speaker 5>so there's obviously someone in the house, right, Like, there's

0:58:57.480 --> 0:58:59.520
<v Speaker 5>someone in the living room that I just ran by,

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:04.080
<v Speaker 5>and so we like armed ourselves, had our flashlights and

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:07.520
<v Speaker 5>like went through the trailer and there was no one there.

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 5>And I was like, okay, that's almost worse because I

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 5>heard someone sneeze. We went to bed that night. Whatever.

0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 5>A couple years pass and we're there again, really late

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:25.320
<v Speaker 5>one night, but we're not spending the night. So we're

0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 5>getting ready to leave and it's probably like three am,

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:34.800
<v Speaker 5>and we're standing in the kitchen together and I am

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 5>on my phone and she's standing pretty much directly behind me,

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:43.840
<v Speaker 5>facing the same direction as me, just like getting stuff

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 5>ready in her toe bag or whatever, and I hear

0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 5>someone very like it was inaudible like I couldn't understand

0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:56.439
<v Speaker 5>what they were saying, but I heard someone whisper into

0:59:56.560 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 5>my ear and I look back at her and I say, what, like,

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:03.960
<v Speaker 5>because I thought it was her trying to say something.

1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:08.080
<v Speaker 5>And for the second time in that trailer, she's like,

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:12.520
<v Speaker 5>that wasn't me. But I heard that also that again,

1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:18.760
<v Speaker 5>and so we just left and nothing has happened there since.

1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:22.720
<v Speaker 5>It just feels like I really don't I do not

1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:28.640
<v Speaker 5>like being there very late at night. I don't understand

1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:33.000
<v Speaker 5>what was happening either of those times, but it definitely

1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:37.880
<v Speaker 5>felt like there was something trying to communicate or just

1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:42.200
<v Speaker 5>like hanging out around us, and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>These are some good stories you have here. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, Thank.

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<v Speaker 11>You for having me.

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<v Speaker 5>This is so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much to Haley, Kathleen, and Julia.

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