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Speaker 3: Collease hey boo, it's me Raz and welcome to Ghosted

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Speaker 3: by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people

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Speaker 1: Ah, it's my favorite. A listener phone call extravaganza. What

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Speaker 1: I love talking to listeners. This first one is Haley,

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Speaker 1: and Haley has had experiences with everything. We even get

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Okay you, according to this email I received, you

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Speaker 2: I do it all, I do it all.

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Speaker 1: You could do it all that is, Uh, there's diversity

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Speaker 1: in these stories. You are well rounded in your paranormal experiences.

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Speaker 1: Which one do we start with? I gotta hear Bigfoot?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So I will say being a triple threat.

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Speaker 4: So when I was nineteen, I was transferring to Florida State,

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Speaker 1: Something about your family, you guys are or maybe you

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Speaker 2: Bigwood now, yes, waiting for that to be let out.

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Speaker 4: They put me in a room and my aunt decided

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Speaker 2: You could just write it. And I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: And it's like I think you look great, and so

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Speaker 2: I don't want these men. I don't know. So we

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Speaker 4: One night in my apartment, I have, you know, just

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Speaker 4: We're great. A couple months later, we're back home in

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why do you say that?

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Speaker 4: She just really wasn't wasn't feeling me the last time

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Speaker 4: my other aunt. She'd be like, hey, can you please

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Speaker 2: Was Kin there and was not.

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Speaker 4: Beth describes a woman coming into Graham and Papa house.

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Speaker 4: She said that she walked her through this front door,

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Speaker 4: I would have introduced you.

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Speaker 2: What does this woman look like?

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Speaker 4: She described in the perfect detail my grandma Cirka like

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Speaker 4: It was the craziest, scarious, like all hum of comforting thing.

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Speaker 4: And I think, honestly Graham was there also trying to

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Speaker 4: biggest things, Like, oh, I just wish you could have

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Speaker 1: That is incredible.

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Speaker 2: Our new house in Alabama. So apparently she has learned

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Speaker 1: So do you think that she approves and they get

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Speaker 4: I keep a couple of pictures of her in my car,

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Speaker 4: know she had to do it, like Graham. Grandma was

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Speaker 2: Like, tell her to stop.

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Speaker 1: Has she seen pictures of her from like two thousand

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Speaker 4: But she was talking like sh had a panicle in

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Speaker 4: I saw that who came in the house.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, so Beth saw her.

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Speaker 4: She thought that because she knew like they were like

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Speaker 4: did any of us even acknowledge her? Surely you can't

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with the fact that when she chose to

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm like imagining like Jessie just Rittler, but like

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Speaker 7: Like look at this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, like go for comfort if you're

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Speaker 4: Well, Okay, here's a little thing the ghost through. Whenever

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Speaker 4: was all about a mumoo and she's like, you know what,

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Speaker 4: when I'm buried, this is how I wanted to be.

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Speaker 2: I want to be in a comfortable mumu.

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Speaker 4: I did not want to brawl on and she had

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Speaker 4: ventures and and I want you to take my teeth

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Speaker 4: out and just put him in my hand. You didn't

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Speaker 4: just bury him in my hand with me. She's like,

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Speaker 4: I'm going out in comfort.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, And she sure did that.

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Speaker 4: We got her this cute little like Satine mumou and

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Speaker 2: not trying to be in that for the rest of eternity.

443
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: Hell yeah.

444
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: And so yeah, she was all about some comfort.

445
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: I love that.

446
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: I do.

447
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: Do you know so many of these ghosts are from

448
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds with their corsets, and you know that

449
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: does not seem like a way I would want to

450
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: spend eternity. Take my bra put me in a moomo.

451
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: I'll hold my teeth.

452
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 6: I'm with her on this exactly like I like to

453
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 6: imagine she was in some sketchers also and she is

454
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 6: literally just like walking on cloud just comfortable as hell.

455
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: Amazing. Well, Haley, you are indeed a triple threat. And

456
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: if you have any other stories in the future, you

457
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: know where to find me. Thank you, Haley. Hey, you

458
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: know what we need? Kathleen. Who Kathleen's got one of

459
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: these stories. One of these stories the type they would

460
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: make a movie ota. So we're going to hear that

461
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: right now, Kathleen, take it away. I am talking now

462
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: to Kathleen and Philly. Hi, Kathleen, Hi, Rod. You've got

463
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: some stories. Where do we start?

464
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 8: Well? I do? I have so many stories that we

465
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 8: should probably start with the fact that I grew up

466
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 8: in a hunted house.

467
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 7: I'm one of those.

468
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, what's the story with this house?

469
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 7: Well, so I was the middle shovel of five kids.

470
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 8: I know that you've talked about this on your show before,

471
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 8: but my sister and I played with a Oiji port, okay,

472
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 8: and that's when things started happening. How old were you

473
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 8: I was about twelve or thirteen and she was like

474
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 8: eight or nine when it all began. So this house

475
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 8: was the house that used to be like the main

476
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 8: house of an apple farm. But all of the property

477
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 8: around it was all chopped up into other houses. It

478
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 8: was a regular neighborhood outside of Pittsburgh, but we did

479
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 8: have the oldest house in that neighborhood. And the reason

480
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 8: why I feel pretty confident that the Wiji board is

481
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 8: what opened that door is because nothing had happened before

482
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 8: we played with the Wichi board, and then stuff started happening.

483
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: Oh okay, what happened.

484
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 8: Well, the biggest thing, the most pervasive thing, was there

485
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 8: would be a something behind the headboards of all five

486
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 8: of us kids, and it was the loud and pervasive

487
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 8: and repetitive and it was just make us up from

488
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 8: sound sleeps. And every one of us swore that the

489
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 8: something calming was coming from inside the wall and behind

490
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 8: each one of our own hudboards.

491
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 7: Like everyone was like, no, it's on my wall.

492
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 8: No, it's on my wall, right weird, And I mean,

493
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 8: it is kind of funny that one of my brothers

494
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 8: actually like drew a map at one point and was like, hey,

495
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 8: eds are a different walls. My parents kept trying to

496
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 8: blame that on various things. You know, Oh it's an

497
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 8: old house. Oh there's raccoons to the chimney, you know,

498
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 8: various things, and we found out years later that they

499
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 8: also thought it was supernatural, and actually that's probably.

500
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 7: A little bit of a spoiler because what else went down.

501
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 8: So so that was the most that everybody experienced, but

502
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 8: my sister and I had the most and the worst experiences. Okay,

503
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 8: So we shared a room and we had a big

504
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 8: walking closet, like it leaves ten feet deep, and.

505
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 7: People would come out of the closet, just walk out

506
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 7: of the.

507
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 8: Closet, talking only to each other, not even looking at us,

508
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 8: but talking to each other, and.

509
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 7: We would just be laying there.

510
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: Where would they go if they would walk out the door.

511
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 8: And into the hallway what And they would be very

512
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 8: engaged in these conversations with each other, and it was

513
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 8: all different people, so many different people.

514
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 7: We would be terrified, even though they never would look

515
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 7: at us. So that happened night after night. Whoa you

516
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 7: know when you watch.

517
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 8: A scary movie and everybody says, get out, get out

518
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 8: of that.

519
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I understand why they don't.

520
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 8: These things that were happening were not happening every single night,

521
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 8: So it was like easy to keep pretending that.

522
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 7: Like that was a one off that won't happen again.

523
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 8: You know, we were all raised Catholic, we weren't super

524
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 8: duper religious, but we would lay there. I really remember

525
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 8: praying aloud with my sister and saying, don't let it

526
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 8: happen to me.

527
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 7: Don't let it happen to me.

528
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: You know, like how many people a night would we

529
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: be talking?

530
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: Oh, ten or twelve?

531
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 5: What?

532
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 8: And we would wake up from them talking to each

533
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 8: other the sound of people coming through the room.

534
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: Would you ever hear what they were talking about?

535
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 5: No?

536
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 7: No, it sounded like you know, your EVPs would just

537
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 7: you know, just voice it.

538
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: So do you think it was like a portal or something?

539
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 8: Pullly do that goes? That brings me back to the

540
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 8: Luigi board. I think open a door is going to

541
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 8: walk through.

542
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 5: You know, you can't.

543
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 8: You can't open your window and expect only butterflies to

544
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 8: fly in.

545
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 7: Anything that's a good thing. Yeah, well, I think that's

546
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 7: what it was.

547
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 8: And I think, I mean, it's probably interesting to tell

548
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 8: you too that my parents just refused to hear us.

549
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 7: It was very much.

550
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 8: I didn't realize this a couple of years ago, but

551
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 8: it was almost like stranger things. Like we kids were

552
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 8: all on the second floor, all five of us, and

553
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 8: My parents' bedroom was on the first floor, and we

554
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 8: would tell them about this, or we would just start

555
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 8: screaming and my dad would yell from the bottom of

556
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 8: the steps, get.

557
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 7: To bed to bed.

558
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 8: So like we kids were always trying to figure out

559
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 8: what the hell was going on and see what pattern

560
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 8: we could find or whatever.

561
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 7: But again, this didn't happen every single night.

562
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 8: It was just sometimes. And then I guess I might

563
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 8: have said the worst thing. The worst thing happened one

564
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 8: time that my sister woke up and was talking in

565
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 8: a voice that was in her voice and yeah, oh

566
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 8: I've got sugar, even now remembering it, we had four

567
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 8: poster beds.

568
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 7: Her entire bed was just shaking.

569
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 8: Oh my god, and she was again using some voice

570
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 8: that like I don't even know, it will sound so

571
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 8: silly if I say it.

572
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 7: But like like an extracoist, like this deep voice.

573
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 8: But you couldn't understand what she was saying, and I

574
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 8: lost my mind, as you would imagine. So I was screaming,

575
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 8: and my older brothers came running in the room because

576
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 8: they knew my parents were no help and got to

577
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 8: see enough of it. I did believe that something was

578
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 8: happening in our room that get They like woke her up,

579
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 8: they like jumped on her. I really remember my oldest

580
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 8: brother just like bear hogging her. We're all going, you know,

581
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 8: just saying her name over and over again, you know,

582
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 8: just going, Karen, Karen, Karen, you know, and kind of

583
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 8: like woke up. Her eyes were wide open even as

584
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 8: this other voice was coming.

585
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 7: Out of her.

586
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

587
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 7: And this happened. And embarrassing too that my family let

588
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 7: this go on so long, but almost a year of this,

589
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 7: but not all the time, not all the time. And

590
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 7: that's what allowed us to stay.

591
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 8: We kids were always trying to figure out what was happening, right,

592
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 8: So my very oldest brother was at the.

593
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 7: Age of like climbing out the window and partying and stuff.

594
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 7: So at one point, like we all blamed him and

595
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 7: said he was coming home and thrashing about or whatever.

596
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 8: Who knows, who knows. You're just looking for something logical, right, right,

597
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 8: And so he, you know, vowed to stay home. And

598
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 8: of course it happened even when he didn't go out.

599
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 8: You know, there was a night that was really bad

600
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 8: and he didn't go out. So we had not really

601
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 8: a finished basement that it was still like where we

602
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 8: had a pool table and a shelves of games, you know,

603
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 8: and we had stopped playing with the Wigi board because

604
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 8: we did think that could be the trouble.

605
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 7: But we had to just downstairs with the games.

606
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 8: Right. Well, unbeknownst to us, my parents did believe it

607
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 8: was supernatural, so they took the Wigi board. My father

608
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 8: took the Wigi board and put it in the trash

609
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 8: can and put other trash on top of the Wigi board.

610
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 8: After the trash men left, you know what the next

611
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 8: part is, right.

612
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: The Wigi boy came back.

613
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 8: Yet it did, and my dad, I'm so scared something

614
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 8: about his instincts just told him, okay, I don't want

615
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 8: to piss anybody off here.

616
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 7: And he put the Wigi board back down the basement

617
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 7: and didn't.

618
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 8: Tell us any of it, but called the priest and

619
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 8: they pretended that we had never had the house blessed,

620
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 8: you know, that they were remiss in doing that, and

621
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 8: so they had priests come bless the house.

622
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 7: And that was scary. She can mention too, like all

623
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 7: five of us are like hiding behind furniture and watching

624
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 7: this guy.

625
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 8: He had you know, incense in the ball and was

626
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 8: swinging the balls around and praying and Latin, and he

627
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 8: went through every room in the house and we're like

628
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 8: peeping behind furniture and watching him, and we're terrified, terrified.

629
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 7: So that night that something was the worst it ever was.

630
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: But the priest swing and his balls is supposed to help.

631
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 8: I remember that we were just so sad. We were

632
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 8: so sad that it didn't work, and it was the

633
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 8: worst it ever was. I am telling you that lights

634
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 8: were swinging, dishes were rattling, with all of us kids

635
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 8: ran downstairs, and my parents finally gave up. They came

636
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 8: out from the room and they were like, we're sorry,

637
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 8: we gotta go.

638
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 7: We got to go. Everybody gets shoes on, grab your toothbrushes.

639
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 7: We're out.

640
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 8: We're gonna go to a motel of the street, right.

641
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 8: And meanwhile, while we're having this conversation.

642
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 7: The entire house which is shaking, Oh my god. And

643
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 7: so we're all ready to go.

644
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 8: My second oldest brother was in first in mind and

645
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 8: I was sticking in line, and he put his hand

646
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 8: on the door knob.

647
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: And it just went whoa, what do you mean, like

648
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: a burst open.

649
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 7: One loud boom that like reverberated in the air.

650
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 8: Is what had been constant something for the longest ever, loudest,

651
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 8: longest time ever.

652
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 7: It all just stopped, frozen place.

653
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 8: Nobody knew what to do, and we all just looked

654
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 8: at my dad, you know, with that era down, he

655
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 8: knew everything. We all just try to look at my

656
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 8: dad and he goes, it's over. And can you believe it?

657
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 8: Rose that we stayed up that night. We all stayed

658
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 8: up together as a family. But it never happened begin.

659
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so the pre swing and his balls worked.

660
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: It did work.

661
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: It just took a little bit, you know, it needed

662
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: to get out of there, yeah.

663
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 7: Or something like.

664
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 8: I don't know if that whatever that was was still

665
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 8: like proving something or was angry about it that they

666
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 8: had to go. You know, I'll never know, never know,

667
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 8: But my whole family tells the same story. It has

668
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 8: definitely greatly affected us. And my dad didn't tell us

669
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 8: about trying to throw away the Ouiji boards.

670
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 7: So we were all out of that house.

671
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh interesting. How much longer did you stay there?

672
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 5: Oh?

673
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 7: At least fifteen years, probably the whole not everybody you know,

674
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 7: out of the you.

675
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

676
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 8: But my parents stayed at least fifteen twenty years. Yeah,

677
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 8: and nothing ever happened again. Yeah, And I don't know

678
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 8: enough about this, but my brother is a journalist and

679
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 8: he actually did go back to house and visit with

680
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 8: a couple other families and they had experiences interesting.

681
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: That's so weird. So it like it just kind of

682
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: calmed down for fifteen years and then got some new

683
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: people in there and was like, okay, lights, camera action,

684
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: let's go.

685
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 8: I think anything's possible. But I think that like whatever

686
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 8: it was, I hate to say it like this, like

687
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 8: we vanquished.

688
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 7: The bad guy, you know what I mean?

689
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 8: And I think our family finally won, but then when

690
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 8: a new family came in, whatever, a dark entity that

691
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 8: was wanted to be heard.

692
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: Again, Terestic.

693
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 8: I do believe that some people are more sensitive to things,

694
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 8: and some people, you know, even draw things. And I

695
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 8: think there's just something about my family's energy. But Luigi

696
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 8: Board was definitely opening the window.

697
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: I think, oh my god, Yeah, do you have like

698
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: one more story you'd want to share?

699
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 7: And my instincts you're telling me to go with this one.

700
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 7: This isn't my own, this is my mom and her sister.

701
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 7: That's guide or do you want another one?

702
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 8: Yeah?

703
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: Sure, let's hear it.

704
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 8: So my mom and her sister dearly loved their grandpa,

705
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 8: and their grandpa died when they were both pregnant. Okay,

706
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 8: so this is my mom and my aunt. My aunt

707
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 8: was I think three months more pregnant than my mom,

708
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 8: and this grandpa that they loved dearly passed away.

709
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 9: So years go by and they're sitting at my grandma's

710
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 9: at some kind of family party and they haven't cocktail,

711
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 9: and they're talking to each.

712
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 8: Other, and my mom says to her sister, I need

713
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 8: to tell you something I've never told you that after

714
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 8: I gave birth to Karen, it was actually Karen ros

715
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 8: come to think of it, after birth to Karen, it

716
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 8: came to visit me.

717
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: The grandfather came to visit.

718
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

719
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 8: And while she's saying this, my aunt Audrey is just

720
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 8: sitting in Her eyes are getting bigger and bigger, and

721
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 8: Audrey said.

722
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 7: Oh, my body came to see me too.

723
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 8: They both were crying and they telling each other, telling

724
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 8: their stories simultaneously, and it was very similar story that

725
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 8: he just walked in the room. He looked like himself,

726
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 8: he smelled like his pipe, he was wearing the plaid

727
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 8: jacket he always wore. All of the details were the same,

728
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 8: and then he walked over looked at the baby in

729
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 8: the crib in the master bedroom.

730
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 7: And how people did that then, I don't know what

731
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 7: people do now, but you know what I mean.

732
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 8: They came in, the baby was in the room with

733
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 8: the mom, and dad came in, looked at the baby

734
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 8: and then looked at my mom and said, nice baby, Joan,

735
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 8: and then just turned around and walked out of the room.

736
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 8: And my mom immediately woke up my father, who had

737
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 8: fled through it, and said, Granparatus is just your grandparatis

738
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 8: is this year? And he sat up straight in bed said,

739
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 8: oh my god, I smell a pipe. And the same

740
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 8: thing happened with my aunt.

741
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 7: He had.

742
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 8: He came in the room, looked at her baby, told

743
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 8: her beautiful baby. She woke up her husband. Her husband

744
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 8: smelled the smoke, and so that it was really beautiful moment.

745
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 7: Rons.

746
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 8: That was one of those lovely ghost stories because they

747
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 8: couldn't believe that.

748
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 7: They didn't share it with each other for like a decade,

749
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 7: you know.

750
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 8: And I really remember them just crying and hugging each

751
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 8: other and they were really happy.

752
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such a special story. I love it, so

753
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: that happened too, So it's not all terrifying. Sometimes it's sweet.

754
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 8: I mean, and one could argue that it brought my

755
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 8: family closer. I think it did in some way going

756
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 8: through what we went through.

757
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 5: You know.

758
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but now when you were going through this your family,

759
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: did it ever occur to you, guys, like we shouldn't

760
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: get a movie made about this or this is good

761
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: enough for like a book to be written, Like did

762
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: you ever think about any of that or going to

763
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: the newspaper or anything.

764
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 8: Kid did, But my parents were firmly wanting to be

765
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 8: in denial through all of it.

766
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, they just weren't having it.

767
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: I get that. Thank you so much. This was great.

768
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 7: I really appreciate it. I love you. Yeah, thank you

769
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 7: very much.

770
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: Damn, Kathleen, that was spooky. Next up, it's Julia, who

771
00:39:54,520 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: lived in a haunted apartment during the pandemic. I hope

772
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: she got the deposit back.

773
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 10: Julia, gab me a ghost story. O, my god, from

774
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 10: the Big Apple.

775
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: It's Julia. Hi, Julia, Hi, Ras, please tell me you

776
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: have some New York City ghost stories.

777
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 5: These ghost stories aren't Ashley New York ghost stories. It

778
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 5: happened when I left but I hope you'll have them anyway.

779
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: Of course, absolutely. Okay, tell me what stories you got, Okay.

780
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 5: So I'm originally from the South. I grew up in

781
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 5: southern Appalachia, and when the pandemic hit in twenty twenty,

782
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 5: I was living in New York working on my bachelor's

783
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 5: and I decided pretty immediately once news broke about COVID

784
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: that I wanted.

785
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 7: To leave the city.

786
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: I did not want to be here.

787
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 5: My classes were online and there was nothing really, you know,

788
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 5: tying me here. So a couple of friends that I

789
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 5: had at the time, two sisters their parents, lived in

790
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 5: this huge apartment down in North Carolina, and the three

791
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: of us left the city together and had it down

792
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 5: there in mid March. And so this apartment was in

793
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 5: a pretty old building. It had been built in the

794
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 5: early twentieth century, and it was originally a hospital.

795
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: Oh what could go wrong?

796
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 5: Interesting vibe. There was a plaque out front from like

797
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 5: the governments, marking it as like a historical landmark. And

798
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 5: there was a basement with quite a few small rooms

799
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 5: that we assumed had to have been the morgue when

800
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 5: the hospital was active. And you know, I'm not an

801
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: elevator expert, but I'm assuming that the elevator that was

802
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 5: in this building was the original elevator because it had

803
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 5: like a door with a handle that you opened out

804
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 5: to reveal a metal gate that you had to slide

805
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 5: open and shut. And the up and down mechanisms of

806
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 5: the elevator were literally two buttons, like an up button

807
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: and a down button.

808
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: Perfect like you had.

809
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 5: To control the whole thing. And I'm going to be

810
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 5: really honest and say that it is the most beautiful

811
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 5: place I've ever lived. There were like giant ceilings and

812
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 5: real wood parquet floors, and our apartment had three balconies.

813
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 5: My god. And the total rent for a three bedroom

814
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: apartment was eleven hundred dollars. So if I had not

815
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 5: wanted to leave this town, I totally would have stayed

816
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 5: inspite everything that happened here.

817
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: Do you think that it was like the apartment was

818
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: like multiple patient rooms or something.

819
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, From what I read about the building, it

820
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 5: was originally able to house like twenty to thirty patients

821
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: at a time, and you could like book a room,

822
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 5: but you also might be like taken there. I don't

823
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 5: understand how hospitals worked in the early twentieth century.

824
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: That you could book a room at the hospital. But

825
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: that's what I read.

826
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: And since my friends and their family had lived there

827
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 5: before the three of us came down, i'd heard a

828
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 5: couple of stories about the place beforehand. Years back, they

829
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 5: had moved to that apartment from a first floor apartment

830
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 5: in New York, so they were really used to hearing

831
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 5: a lot of noise above them, and they told me

832
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: that it had taken them quite a few months to

833
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 5: realize that they were still hearing the sounds of footsteps

834
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 5: and you know, general noises above them in this new place,

835
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 5: even though the apartment was on the top floor.

836
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: So not good. Oka.

837
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 5: The worst story that they had told me beforehand was

838
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 5: of one specific night. The apartment was really long, It

839
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 5: spanned the whole front of the building, and like you

840
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 5: brought up, it was like probably a lot of rooms

841
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 5: just like mushed together, and on one end of the

842
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 5: apartment was the kitchen and the dining room, and then

843
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 5: you walked through the living rooms there were two of them,

844
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 5: and then on the other end of the apartment were

845
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 5: the bedrooms and the bathroom, and so on this night,

846
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 5: my friend's mother was laying down on the couch in

847
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 5: the living room and she heard what she described as

848
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 5: the sound of someone walking around the dining room table

849
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 5: a couple of rooms over, and then they made their

850
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 5: way down the hallway, but she didn't see anything. She

851
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 5: just heard on the really nice parquet floors, she heard

852
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 5: someone walking down the hallway. Two of the bedrooms in

853
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 5: the back shared Jack and Jill style bathroom, and so

854
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 5: my friend in the first bedroom she recalled that she

855
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 5: was getting ready for bed in the bathroom, she was

856
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 5: washing her face or whatever, and she looked up into

857
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 5: the mirror and she saw the reflection of a man

858
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 5: standing behind.

859
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: Her classic horror movie.

860
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: And in classic horror movie fashion, when she looked behind,

861
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 5: there was no one there, and then once she looked

862
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 5: back into the mirror, he was gone. My other friend,

863
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: who was in the very back bedroom, her bed was

864
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 5: positioned across the way from a small walking closet. The

865
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: closet didn't have a door, It just had a curtain

866
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 5: on a rod that she often pushed to one side.

867
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 5: So on this night, she turned over in bed and

868
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 5: looked into the closet and she saw the face of

869
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 5: like something. She said that to her, it looked like,

870
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 5: you know, those Chinese lion masks. It looked like that,

871
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 5: but like white, like it was looking at her that

872
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 5: kind of feeling like it wasn't just something in the

873
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 5: closet that had been there, It wasn't there before. And

874
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 5: none of them did anything that night. They didn't like

875
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 5: run to each other and like say, what was going on.

876
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 5: It just like came up in the morning. They all

877
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: like shared their experience of something really crazy happened to

878
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 5: me last night, And then when they put their stories together,

879
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 5: it made it seem like something might have been moving

880
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 5: through the apartment, like it moved from the dining room,

881
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 5: down the hallway, through the bathroom and into the back bedroom.

882
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 5: I knew all of this going in, So.

883
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: This is all before you moved in.

884
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 5: This is all before I moved in, before you heard you.

885
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Were going to be on lockdown and you were publicly

886
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: mandated to not go anywhere. Exactly terrifying.

887
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 5: So you know, despite experiencing multiple paranormal things throughout my life,

888
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 5: I've always been of the extremely delusional stance that if

889
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 5: I say that I don't believe in the supernatural, Like

890
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 5: if I say out loud that I don't believe in it,

891
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 5: then nothing really bad will ever happen to me? Sure,

892
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 5: I mean, like to be fair, nothing really bad has

893
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 5: ever happened to me. Deeply unsettling, which is why I'm here,

894
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 5: But nothing really bad. So we all like moved in

895
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 5: mid March, and everything considered at the time, you know,

896
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 5: for what was going on in the world, I was

897
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 5: actually having a pretty good time. The apartment was beautiful,

898
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 5: and nothing very ghosty was going on. The only unsettling

899
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 5: thing that started pretty immediately was that I would hear

900
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 5: this scraping noise coming from outside. So there was a

901
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 5: sidewalk that connected the various apartments to the front entryway,

902
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 5: and it wound around the building. There would be this

903
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 5: sound like someone was scraping a rake over the sidewalk.

904
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: But the really weird part about it was that it

905
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 5: was kind of a constant sound. It didn't never really

906
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: sound like it was getting closer or farther away. It

907
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 5: would just start and then it would stop. And I

908
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 5: looked out the windows on quite a few occasions to

909
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 5: see if I could see what was making that sound,

910
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,479
Speaker 5: but I never saw anything, even though I could see

911
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 5: the sidewalk from our windows, and it sounded like it.

912
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: Was right below the windows weird.

913
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 5: That didn't really bother me that much, so I was like, whatever,

914
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 5: if I don't see anything, it's not that big of

915
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 5: a deal. When I really started to get freaked out

916
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 5: was with a couple of things happened to me my sleep.

917
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 5: There was this night where I was woken up by

918
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 5: what felt like someone shouting my name directly into my ear,

919
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 5: like I remember the feeling of the breast and the

920
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 5: hotness inside of my ear, But there was nothing there

921
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: when I looked around. Obviously, there never is except for

922
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: when there is. And I really really really do not

923
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 5: like anything bothering my sleep. I'm the kind of person

924
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: like I'm out in a minute, I'm down the rest

925
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 5: of the night. I've never had any problems with sleep

926
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 5: paralysis or night peers, so this kind of thing, I

927
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 5: was like, I really really don't like this. My bed

928
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 5: was positioned across the way from this short bookshelf that

929
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 5: had on it one of those lanterns in the shape

930
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 5: of a Greek statue, like the head of a Greek statue,

931
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 5: and then the plant like comes out the top like hair.

932
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: Okay, cute, it is really cute.

933
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 5: One night I woke up in the middle of the night,

934
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 5: and that kind of waking up where you're like blinking

935
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 5: and looking around for quite a while before you fully

936
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 5: realize that you're awake. So I'm coming to and I

937
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 5: realized that standing right in front of.

938
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 2: Me is a little boy.

939
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 5: He was pale and like marginally translucent. It was like

940
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 5: he was he wasn't fully there, but he also wasn't

941
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 5: fully see through. He was substantial enough that I could

942
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 5: like make out strong features on him, but I could

943
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 5: also see through him some. And as my brain starts

944
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 5: to register that he's there, he starts leaning towards me,

945
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 5: and he stops really close to my face. And this

946
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: whole time, I'm not moving or anything. I'm not feeling

947
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 5: particularly scared. I'm just really curious. And so he gets

948
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 5: really close to my face and he stops and he

949
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 5: yells run. That's all he says. He just yells at

950
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 5: me to run. And after he's shouted that in my face,

951
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 5: he just like fades away.

952
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: Did you run?

953
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 11: No?

954
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 5: I didn't. I was woken up in the middle of

955
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 5: the night, and I was like, where am I supposed

956
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 5: to go?

957
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 11: Outside?

958
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 5: How's that better?

959
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: Right outside?

960
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 5: Where the rake is being scraped across the sidewalk.

961
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: The rake Demon's gonna get you, no, And when.

962
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 5: He fades away, I remember the last thing to go

963
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 5: was his face. And then when his face disappeared, where

964
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 5: his face had been was the face of that planter.

965
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 5: And so I was like, oh, maybe I was having,

966
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 5: you know, a sleep paralysis at the so, except I've

967
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: never had those, and I wasn't scared. I didn't feel

968
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 5: like I was being trapped or anything. I felt like

969
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 5: I was just watching something that was going on in

970
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 5: front of me. But after he faded away, I was like,

971
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 5: really really scared. But my coping mechanism when things scare

972
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 5: me in real life, for like watching a movie, is

973
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 5: to cover my ears. Something about like sound is the

974
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 5: worst part of scary things for me. So anytime I

975
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 5: wake up in the middle of the night from a

976
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 5: really bad dream, I'll put on a podcast, usually not yours,

977
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 5: because I don't feel like that helps.

978
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll get on.

979
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 5: Like a different podcast or like thunderstorm Sounds. And so

980
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 5: that's what I did that night and pretty much every

981
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 5: night after that for a really long time, because in

982
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 5: my head, if I make it impossible for me to

983
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 5: hear the thing that goes by in the night, then

984
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 5: it can't do anything to me if I don't hear it.

985
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: Totally, I sleep with white Noise.

986
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 5: And I know that logic is flat, but it really

987
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 5: really works for me.

988
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's flawed because, first of all,

989
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: who knows, But there could be a ghost right next

990
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: to everyone listening to this podcast right now. We could

991
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: be encountering ghosts all day every day. But if you

992
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: can't see it, you can't hear it, then what's the

993
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: big deal?

994
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 7: Exactly?

995
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: I put on the white Noise machine every single night

996
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: for the exact reason, thank you.

997
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 5: And after that, like nothing really much happened again in

998
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 5: that apartment. I would pretty frequently wake up in the

999
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 5: middle of the night with that like feeling that something

1000
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 5: was wrong or that there was something else in the

1001
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 5: room with me, but I would just put on my headphones.

1002
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 5: I think that like that is with the boy beside

1003
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 5: my bead freaked me out so much that I like

1004
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 5: really slammed that like mental door shut in my head.

1005
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't want any of.

1006
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 11: This, Like it was crazy for a little while there

1007
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 11: where like that thing yelled Julia at me, But I

1008
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 11: don't I don't want any more of this, and so

1009
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 11: I kind of just like said no more.

1010
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 5: Please, Like I really I'm not strong, I don't have fortitude.

1011
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 5: I will not make it out of this a lie,

1012
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 5: like you're picking on the wrong person.

1013
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: You are probably just rest like sleeping like a baby

1014
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: and a cloud and there's just this invisible boy being.

1015
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 5: Like rud rd and you're just like, I can't hear

1016
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 5: you over my thunderstorm on beyond.

1017
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 11: Uh.

1018
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: So do you have other stories you said that you

1019
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: had had experiences previous to that.

1020
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 5: I I do have two others that really stick out

1021
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 5: in my head. Like I mentioned, I grew up in

1022
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 5: the South, and my best friend's house is like kind

1023
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 5: of in a rural area out in the woods. It

1024
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 5: used to be a mining community. It used there used

1025
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 5: to be miners who lived there. And it was the

1026
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 5: summer after we graduated high school. She at some point

1027
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 5: during high school, she had asked her dad to, like

1028
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 5: they had this walk in closet in her bedroom, and

1029
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 5: she'd asked him to like build a little bed in

1030
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 5: the closet. She was sharing a room with her sister,

1031
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 5: so I think she just like wanted a private space

1032
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 5: in that room, and so he like built a little

1033
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 5: bed in the closet that had enough room that you

1034
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 5: could sleep on top, and then you could put like

1035
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 5: a palette down on the ground beneath it and someone

1036
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 5: could sleep under that like bunk bed style. And we

1037
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 5: were eighteen, and I was like, I will sleep under

1038
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 5: the bed. That sounds fun. And so the first night

1039
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 5: I go to do that, it's fine. I fall asleep

1040
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 5: in two minutes like normal, until I wake up in

1041
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 5: the middle of the night and I'm like laying flat

1042
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 5: on my back and I hear directly above me on

1043
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 5: the wood of the platform holding her bed up above me,

1044
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 5: I hear the sound of someone scratching their fingernail along

1045
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 5: the wood in front of my face, and I unlike

1046
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 5: when the little boy told me to run, and I

1047
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 5: didn't run. I shot out of that bed. I was

1048
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 5: like no, no, no, no, no no. And I went

1049
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 5: to sleep on the couch in the living room. And

1050
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 5: I told her what happened the next morning, and she said,

1051
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes I hear stuff in that room like

1052
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 5: it were out in the woods. There might be stuff

1053
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 5: in the walls, and I'm like, okay, but it was

1054
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 5: like not in the walls. It was right above my face,

1055
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 5: and I was like, I will give it one more shots.

1056
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 5: I go to sleep the next night under the bed

1057
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 5: and the same thing happens, Like I wake up and

1058
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 5: there is something scratching right above my face, and that

1059
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 5: time I remember I shot out of there again and

1060
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 5: I hit my head so hard against the underside of

1061
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 5: the bed. But I was like, I really don't care.

1062
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 5: I have to be anywhere but here. After that in

1063
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 5: that house, nothing ever really happened. But also on their property,

1064
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 5: they have a trailer that they like rent out to

1065
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 5: friends and stuff, and when there's no one in there,

1066
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 5: it's fully furnished, and so we like to go over

1067
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 5: there and hang out. And so one night she and

1068
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 5: I were spending the night in there, and we were

1069
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 5: getting ready for bed, and I was like, let me

1070
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 5: go double check that I locked the b So she's

1071
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 5: like in the bedroom, which is on one side of

1072
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 5: the trailer, and then I had to like walk through

1073
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 5: the living room, around a corner, through the kitchen to

1074
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 5: the back door. And as I'm walking through the living room,

1075
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 5: I hear someone sneeze and I keep walking and I say,

1076
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 5: bless you, because I thought it was her. And as

1077
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 5: I'm locking the back door. I hear her response that

1078
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 5: wasn't me, but I heard that too. It's like, right, okay,

1079
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 5: so I have to walk back through the living room

1080
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 5: I get to see you. And because I was going

1081
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 5: back through the kitchen, I grabbed a bunch of knives

1082
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 5: and I just booked it. I booked it back into

1083
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 5: the bedroom and we closed the doors, and then we

1084
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 5: like conferred about what our strategy was. We were like, okay,

1085
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 5: so there's obviously someone in the house, right, Like, there's

1086
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 5: someone in the living room that I just ran by,

1087
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 5: and so we like armed ourselves, had our flashlights and

1088
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 5: like went through the trailer and there was no one there.

1089
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, that's almost worse because I

1090
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 5: heard someone sneeze. We went to bed that night. Whatever.

1091
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 5: A couple years pass and we're there again, really late

1092
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 5: one night, but we're not spending the night. So we're

1093
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 5: getting ready to leave and it's probably like three am,

1094
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 5: and we're standing in the kitchen together and I am

1095
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 5: on my phone and she's standing pretty much directly behind me,

1096
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 5: facing the same direction as me, just like getting stuff

1097
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 5: ready in her toe bag or whatever, and I hear

1098
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 5: someone very like it was inaudible like I couldn't understand

1099
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 5: what they were saying, but I heard someone whisper into

1100
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 5: my ear and I look back at her and I say, what, like,

1101
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 5: because I thought it was her trying to say something.

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Speaker 5: And for the second time in that trailer, she's like,

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Speaker 5: that wasn't me. But I heard that also that again,

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Speaker 5: and so we just left and nothing has happened there since.

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Speaker 5: It just feels like I really don't I do not

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Speaker 5: like being there very late at night. I don't understand

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Speaker 5: what was happening either of those times, but it definitely

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Speaker 5: felt like there was something trying to communicate or just

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Speaker 5: like hanging out around us, and I don't know what

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Speaker 5: it was.

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Speaker 1: These are some good stories you have here. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: doing this, Thank.

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Speaker 11: You for having me.

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Speaker 5: This is so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much to Haley, Kathleen, and Julia.

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Speaker 1: And again you can be just like them. So send

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Speaker 1: in your stories to ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays everyone, I will speak to you next year.

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me

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Speaker 1: came back. This has been an exactly right production. Want

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Speaker 1: to share your paranormal experience. On the podcast, I read

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Speaker 1: stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so

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Speaker 1: email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the

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Speaker 1: show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

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Speaker 1: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jeeha Lee. Associate producer

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Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

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Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by

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Speaker 1: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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Speaker 1: by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hard Stark,

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Speaker 1: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.