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Speaker 1: the Bengals defensive line and in our Know the Faux segment,

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Speaker 1: thing since Zach Taylor getting carded. Cj Uzama appeared on

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Speaker 1: tells us two things. That Zach has a youthful appearance.

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Speaker 1: We already knew that, and that he's not spending a

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Speaker 1: lot of time hanging out at Mount Lookout Tavern. Now

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Speaker 1: let's get to this week's guests. It's the Bengals and

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Speaker 1: talk to preview the game than the great Greg co

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Speaker 1: Greg before the twenty twenty draft. You are nice enough

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Speaker 1: to give me your printed up notes about Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: Number two, a quick processor of pressures and coverage. Number

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Speaker 1: three efficient pocket movement. Clearly you thought that Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: had the chance to be an excellent NFL player. What

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Speaker 1: he's playing? Well, you know what, Dan, Every once in

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Speaker 1: I really liked Burrow coming out, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: When you see a player that shows the same traits

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Speaker 1: that he's still playing within his skill set and his traits.

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Speaker 1: And I think that was pretty evident with Burrow a

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Speaker 1: year ago. Obviously, the team wasn't quite as good, so

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Speaker 1: You know, now as the team has gotten better, obviously

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Speaker 1: How has Jamar Chase changed the Bengals offense? Anytime you

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Speaker 1: a special, special talent that there there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows about Simmons. Autry has been overlooked a bit.

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Speaker 1: And you know what they're very good at, and this

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Speaker 1: You just hope that those negative plays don't result in turnovers.

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Speaker 1: given this a lot of thought. We've seen the Bengals

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Speaker 1: um and I knew that he run with Paul then

430
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: right then and there that day. If I'm like, yeah,

431
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good back. So even when you're

432
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: blocking for him, if he hits you, it can be paid.

433
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: You would fill it, you will feel it. So you're

434
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: blocked for the King in Tennessee and now you're blocking

435
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: for Joey Franchise in Cincinnati. You've been in this league

436
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: for seven years? Are you amazed by what he's doing

437
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: in year two? Yes, I'm I'm I'm I'm so amazed

438
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: what happened last year with him and how he attacked

439
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: this all season rehab and came back and pit this

440
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: great season. He havn't like. I'm just amazed how how

441
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: he handled that, because some people with would have folded.

442
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: But I see it Joey different. Like I seeing his

443
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: eyes every time he come to work like he I

444
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: feel like he on the mission. And that's the type

445
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: of guy won't like I'm on a mission. I've been.

446
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: I had a chip on my shoulder since I came

447
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: in the league. So seeing that out of him, I'm like,

448
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: I want to play for this guy. Last thing for

449
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: Quentin Space. You referred to your meeting with Zach Taylor

450
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: your exit interview last year, when you told him you

451
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: wanted to come back. And I know you told your

452
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: agent that you wanted him to get a deal done

453
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, almost regardless of the amount. What are you

454
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: going to tell your agent at the end of this year.

455
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: They already we talked about it. We talked, They put

456
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: a bug and we told him, like, I want to

457
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: be here. So at the end of the day, I

458
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: want to be here. I want to finish my career Hill.

459
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: So it's up to them if they want to keep

460
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: me here. But I'm just gonna go out every day

461
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: and pit out good film. Just in cases they don't

462
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: want me, somebody else will pick me up. But I

463
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: want to be in cincin that. I told him that

464
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: mid season. My agent told him that mid season. So

465
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Speaker 1: we will see how things work. You've had a fantastic year.

466
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: You've had an awesome impact on a young offensive line room.

467
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: I certainly hope that you're back next year, and I

468
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: appreciate your time today. Best of luck against the Titans,

469
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: don't you ent and signed a one year deal for

470
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: about one point one million dollars last year. He'll turn

471
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: thirty one next year in training camp. The Bengals Booth

472
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473
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474
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475
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: season long, including Super Bowl fifty six. Now tired to

476
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: discuss the Bengals' latest news and some keys to Saturday's

477
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: game with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Lap Let's start

478
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: with the state of the Bengals defensive line as of

479
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: Thursday morning. Trey Hendrickson appears to be back. He was

480
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: full going practice on Wednesday. We know that Larry Ogan

481
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: Jobi is out Josh Tupo limited at practice on Wednesday

482
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: because of his knee injury. They have signed three hundred

483
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: thirty five pound eight year vet Zach Kerr off the

484
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals practice squad. That means he is on the active roster.

485
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: He's wearing the number sixty nine. They have also signed

486
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: former Miami Redhawk Doug Coston to the practice squad so

487
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: he could get promoted for the game on Saturday. He

488
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: has started in the past for Jacksonville, so after hearing

489
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: all of that, what is your concern level for the

490
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: Bengals defensive line going into the game in Nashville. Well,

491
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, the thing is, I'm figuring that a big

492
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: part of the game plan, or at any part of

493
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: the game plan, was going to be played that five

494
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: man front that they've played pretty successfully against teams that

495
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: run it so well, and they did it against Baltimore

496
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: initially unveiled it and really did a good job of

497
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: controlling not only pass rush lanes but running lanes, you

498
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: know for Lamar Jackson. So hopefully that they'll have enough

499
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: players in a rotation now to be able to use

500
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: that look. And it's not something that you live in

501
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: every single snap, but it's nice to be able to

502
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: go to that. But when you go to three defensive

503
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: tackles in the game at the same time, that's that's

504
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: eating snaps up, you know, for three guys. So you'd

505
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: like to have some numbers there from a rotational standpoint,

506
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: and hopefully with these signings that you reference, that'll give

507
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: them that that type of rotation and um, you know

508
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: that that's going to be I think the biggest key

509
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: to the football game obviously is is the way that uh,

510
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: the way that they can run the football. I mean

511
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: the Tennessee tightens. It's it's no secret, and it's going

512
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: to run, run, run, run it again, you know, and

513
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: then play action, pass, naked boots, um, you know, things

514
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: things that nature. Uh so, But it all starts. Their

515
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: offense starts first and foremost with running the football. Whoever

516
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: it is, it's going to be running it. Can Zach

517
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: Kerr join the Bengals on a Wednesday with a playoff

518
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: game on Saturday and have a significant impact. I think

519
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: he needs to channel his his inner Quentin Spain. Quentin

520
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: Spain last year in the regular season did basically exactly

521
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: that with the offensive line, and honestly, Dan, there's more

522
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 1: to learn, uh schematically, you know, from the with an

523
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: offensive line standpoint, I'm not saying that there's no think

524
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: to learn defensively, but there's less. There's less to learn,

525
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: and it's more of a reactionary thing, whereas in the

526
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: offensive line, you know you're gonna you initiate things that

527
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: defense responds to. So there's a little bit more sophistication

528
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: to it, and a little bit more terminology formations, you know,

529
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: all these different things to learn and assignments based on

530
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: fronts that you're presented and all that. Defensively, you know,

531
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: there's only so many places a defensive tackle can line

532
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: up and so many responsibilities that he's going to have.

533
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: So again it's a reactionary thing. I think he's probably

534
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: in as good a football shape as you can be in.

535
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he was just on a roster. He hasn't

536
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: had a whole lot of playing time, but he's been

537
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: at practices and I mean he's he's in football shape.

538
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: He hasn't gotten out of football shape. So hopefully he

539
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: has the impact that Quentin Spain had in that game

540
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: last year when they had four new offensive linement starting

541
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Speaker 1: and they beat the Tennessee Titans thirty to twenty, and

542
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain was a big reason why, and hopefully Zach

543
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: will be a big reason why they hold the fourth

544
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: down in the running game in this one. All Right,

545
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: more on that offensive line game in a little bit,

546
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: but let's get back to the Titans rushing attack led

547
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: by Derrick Henry. All indications are he will be back.

548
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: He hasn't played since Halloween because of a broken right foot.

549
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is six three, two hundred forty seven pounds.

550
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: He hit twenty one point eight miles an hour on

551
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: a touchdown run this year against Buffalo. That is the

552
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: sixth fastest time of any ball carrier in the NFL. Again,

553
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: he is two hundred forty seven pounds. I want to

554
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: put this into perspective. If we remember Jamar Chase's seventy

555
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: two yard touchdown catch where he seemed to run away

556
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: from the whole team. Jamar Chase hit twenty one point

557
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: seven miles an hour on that run. Again, Derrick Henry

558
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: hit twenty one point eight. How did the Bengals defend

559
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and the other good running backs that the

560
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Titans have. Well, I think difference between Derrick Henry and

561
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is Jamar Chase can get to that twenty

562
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: one point six or seven miles an hour faster. Derrick

563
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: Henry takes them a while to get to top speed

564
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: because because of his size. That's there. Oh baby, I

565
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: mean you've got you know, we always talked about size

566
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: speed ratio stuff. This guy sets a new standard. I

567
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: mean that is ridiculous. And again they've got uh that

568
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: this this franchise has a history and tradition of it.

569
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell could do the same thing Eddie George could

570
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: do the same thing the bigger backs of their generation,

571
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: but could run you over and then run away from

572
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: you as well. And those guys are rare, and they

573
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: got another one in this big old beast. And honestly,

574
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: just his presence is going to give that team a shot,

575
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: a boost of confidence, adrenaline, enthusiasm. I mean, they're gonna

576
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: feel like we got our superhero back. We're almost invincible,

577
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, no matter how many times he carries the football,

578
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: the fact that he's in pads on the sideline and

579
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: at any point in time as a threat to go

580
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: into the football game that gives an offensive football team

581
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: an enormous boost. There is no no two ways about it.

582
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: So it is going to be interesting. Dan. I think

583
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: I personally believe that he's They're gonna just fifteen to

584
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: eighteen carries. I don't think they're gonna overload him. Um,

585
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna put it on his shoulder

586
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: and say we were gonna lose a game, because if

587
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: you Derrick Henry that that would be too much. I mean,

588
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't hasn't really done much since Trick

589
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: or Treat, So you know, like you got to. You

590
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: gotta give the guy an opportunity to work his way

591
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: back into it. And their mindset is probably, Okay, we're

592
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna survive an advance, We're going to the

593
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: super Bowl. We want Derrick Henry throughout the entire process here.

594
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: We don't want him for just one football game. If

595
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: we overwork him, overload him and he starts favoring that foot.

596
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: A lot of times when you come back from an injury,

597
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: you start to favor it, even almost subconsciously, and then

598
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: you get an injury somewhere else, you know, because you're

599
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: running differently. Maybe you pull a calf muscle, you know,

600
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: maybe you do something else to your leg or whatever

601
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: the case may be. So I think I don't think

602
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: they say, all right, you're gonna hammer the ball twenty

603
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: five thirty times this football game, because they have two

604
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: other guys that performed well, and they could have a

605
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: nice rotation and a three headed monster, and I think

606
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: that would be, you know, something that would be a

607
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: challenge to the Bengals as well. But man, when Derek

608
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: Henry gets the football, Dan, you can't let him get

609
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: to that top end speed. I think the biggest key

610
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: is make him make his first cut either behind or

611
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. Worst case scenario if he

612
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: gets past past the line of scrimmage into the linebacker

613
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: level before he has to make his first cut. Or o'nelly.

614
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: Now you've got something really tough. And I remember when

615
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: we were playing big, great backs, the coaches would always say, look,

616
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: make him don't allow him to square shoulder pads to

617
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Make him run to the sideline,

618
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Make him go east and west. Make him put his

619
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: shoulder pad's face in the sideline, not facing north and

620
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: south and him running north and south. You don't want that.

621
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: Then you got a handful. Make everything east and west.

622
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: Make him look east and west as pads look east

623
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: and west, he runs east and west. Make him go

624
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline. Don't let that son of a gun

625
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: go downhill on you. Then you got a tiger by

626
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: the tail lap. Let's move on to Ryan Tannehill. Take

627
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: an eighth in the draft by Miami the year after

628
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: the Bengals drafted Andy Dalton. He's been a good NFL player.

629
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: He's in his tenth year, he's thirty three years old.

630
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: Went to the Pro Bowl a couple of years ago,

631
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: led the NFL in passer rating, but he's been a

632
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: little inconsistent this year. What do you think of Ryan Tannehill? Yeah,

633
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: I think inconsistent. It's a good way to put it. Dan.

634
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: I think he's streaky, you know the plus on him.

635
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: He didn't throw as many touchdown passes this year's last year.

636
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: He was well into the thirties last year. But he

637
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: had seven rushing touchdowns last year and seven rushing touchdowns

638
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: this year. His seven rushing touchdowns tied for fourteenth in

639
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. And he's a quarterback. So here's a guy

640
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: that you know, quarterback sneak nakeds boots, keepers, you know,

641
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: those kind of things. He can hurt you because of

642
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: his athletic ability. I mean he could run. He was

643
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: a wide receiver for a year at Texas A and

644
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: M and not just a guy to phil a roster spot.

645
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: He was a guy that was an all conference type

646
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: wide receiver. So you know, he understands when the wide

647
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: receivers are running routes. Talk about being able to get

648
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: on the same page. Here's a guy that's thrown it

649
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: and run routes at a very high level, you know,

650
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: and sometimes receivers that have played quarterback see that through

651
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: a quarterback's eye. Well, how many quarterbacks and say they

652
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: can see the game through receiver's eyes because they played receiver.

653
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy did that. That's that's a rare

654
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: deal right there. So I think, you know, as far

655
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: as the mental part of it, it's it's all there

656
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: a pre med students, smart as whip, you know, football

657
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 1: and tell gents all of that. Um. But when he'll

658
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: have streets where you know, he turns it over fourteen interceptions,

659
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: fumbled the ball ten times, put it on the ground,

660
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: lost four of them, eighteen giveaways. That that's a you know,

661
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: turnover machine at times. And uh in the one and

662
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: three stretch they had in those three losses, his team

663
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: turned over thirteen times and no, no, no takeaways. They

664
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: remind us thirteen and he was a big part of that. So, um,

665
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: you know, which which Titan team is going to show

666
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: up the one that's going to take care of the

667
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: ball from Bengal standpoint, hopefully not hopefully it's the tight

668
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: team that uh that is generous, you know, and they're charitable.

669
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: It's a charitable Saturday Saturday afternoon down there in Nashville,

670
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: and they give the Bengals some extra extra possessions and

671
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: extra opportunities. I think that is the biggest factor. I

672
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: think the Bengals have to take the football away to

673
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: win this football game. And it's been pretty remarkable lately

674
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: because the Bengals haven't turned it over in five games.

675
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has gone his last five games without throwing

676
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: an interception. Paul Dayner Junior pointed out a great stat

677
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: five straight games for Joe with a passer rating over

678
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: one hundred and no interceptions. That's the longest streak like

679
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: that ever in Bengals history. Yeah, one eighty attempts without

680
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: an interception. The only guy that has more that's still

681
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: alive and playing from a streak standpoint is Aaron Rodgers.

682
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: He's number two to Aaron Rodgers in terms of taking

683
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: care of the football in that regard. So, you know,

684
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: he had his issues during the course of the season

685
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: as well, but he's really hit a stretch now where

686
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: I think, you know he's he's totally confident that he's

687
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: going to take care of the football and the Bengals

688
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: have really played well. Obviously, when you're playing like that

689
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: the quarterback doesn't have to take as many chances. You know,

690
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: it's not got We don't have that many possessions left.

691
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: I got to try to fit in this hole and

692
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: normally wouldn't maybe try to do that. But you know,

693
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: like we've always talk about every interception there's a story

694
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: behind behind it, and here lately there hasn't been any

695
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: story for interceptions. The Bengals have played well as a team,

696
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: and it starts with the level that Joe Barrow is

697
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: playing at, which is extraordinary, extraordinarily phenomenal. Yes it is.

698
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: And let's talk about offensive strategy playing off that. The

699
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: Titans are number two in the NFL in run defense

700
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: at least in terms of yards allowed per game eighty

701
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: four point six, number twenty five in the NFL and

702
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: passing yards allowed per game two forty five point two.

703
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: Now that's not always the best gauge because sometimes you

704
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: give up a bunch of passing yards when you have

705
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: a big lead. The Titans are number nine in the

706
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: NFL and passer rating allowed. So having said all of that,

707
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: is this a let Joe Burrow throw it a bunch

708
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: and try to win the game, or do they need

709
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: a healthy mix of mix in. I don't think they

710
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: can abandon the running game as such, but I would

711
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: not be surprised if it's slanted heavily toward the past,

712
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: and probably rightfully so. On first and second down, the

713
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: Titans to me look fairly standard defensively. That might be

714
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: the better downs to throw. One might not be great

715
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: downs to run on because they are so good. And

716
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: then you find yourself if you don't perform well running

717
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: the football and first second down, you're playing right into

718
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: their hands. And a third and long and on third down,

719
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: never mind third and long and third down in general.

720
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: I mean the they mix it up they do. They

721
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: do a great job on on third down that they'll

722
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: they'll play some man, they'll play Cover one, they'll play

723
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: some man they give they'll play cover two. They give

724
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: multiple looks of Cover two. They disguise it really well.

725
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: They're not a real heavy pressure team, but when they

726
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: do decide to pressure, they give you some exotic you know,

727
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: on where the docks looks. So third down is a

728
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: down that you want to particularly third and long. If

729
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: you're in third down its third and four or less,

730
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: three or less, that's not that bad a situation. But

731
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: if you're looking at third and five or more, they

732
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: only allow thirty six point seven percent conversion on third down,

733
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: sixth best in the league. So you want to avoid

734
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: I mean, in a perfect world, you'd play so well

735
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: on first and second down that you only have to

736
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: try to convert you know, seven first third downs on

737
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: the game. You don't want to be in a scenario

738
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: we have to try to convert fifteen or sixteen of them,

739
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 1: you know. And now if you only if you convert

740
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: less than a fourth of them, you know, you're looking

741
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: at a tough dynamic there. So I think first and

742
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: second down success is going to be big. And that's

743
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: where I've mixed my running pass game up on first

744
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: and second down. I certainly wouldn't fall into a habit

745
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: of I'm gonna run it on first down and run

746
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: it on a second down and throw it on third.

747
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, you got you gotta have a good healthy

748
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: mix there in terms of play call and you know,

749
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: I think I think another big key to this game,

750
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: dan is is like in playoffs, everything gets emphasized and

751
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: more heightened. You know, Zack said in the red zone

752
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: in the last game against the Raiders, he never really

753
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: found his rhythm. I think not only for the players,

754
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: but for the play callers. Zach and Louhann Rumo find

755
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: a rhythm from a play calling standpoint as early as

756
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: you can in this football game, and I think the

757
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: coaching staff and the play callers did find that rhythm.

758
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: The soonest puts their team in the best chance to win, obviously,

759
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: So you reference the Quentin Spain game earlier. When the

760
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: Bengals beat the Titans at Paul Brown Stadium last year

761
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty. Here was the starting offensive line

762
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: that day. The starting left tackle was then rookie a

763
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: chemid energy, the starting left guard a guy named Shaq

764
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: Calhoun who had a very brief Cincinnati Bengals career. Billy

765
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: Price started its center, Alex Redman started it right big

766
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: Fred Johnson started at right tackle. After the first series,

767
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: Shaq Calhoun got benched. Quentin Spain came in. He had

768
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: signed with a team two days earlier. He was introducing

769
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: himself to his teammates in the huddle, and they played

770
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: great and won the game. Joe Burrow wasn't hit, he

771
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: wasn't sacked. He had a passer rating of one oh

772
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: six point seven. They actually had a decent running game.

773
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon was out, Giovanni Bernard and Sam jp Ryan

774
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: combined for ninety four yards. So if that line held

775
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: up against Tennessee last year at Paul Brown Stadium, should

776
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: this line be able to do a decent job? You

777
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: would think so, you know, I do think that this

778
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titan defensive line is very very solid. To be conservative,

779
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: I guess with praise, Jeffrey Simmons I think is an

780
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: outstanding interior defensive lineman. I think Aaron Donald's the only

781
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: guy in the league. I think that is more disruptive

782
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: than athletic and if you lose sleep the night before

783
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: the game, more so than this guy. Uh Autrey is

784
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: a good rusher obviously, U you know they've got they

785
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: have three three guys that have at least eight and

786
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: a half sacks. Landry as twelve, Autreys nine, Simmons has

787
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: eight and a half. That's pretty that's pretty balanced and

788
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: pretty pretty good scenario there. So I think this offensive

789
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: line will be challenged. But I do think that I

790
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: think Frank Pollock has done a great job of developing guys.

791
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: M you know, I look at Isaiah Prince and from

792
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: training camp to now. Man, he's come a long way,

793
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: he really has, and his confidence I think is very

794
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: very high. I thought that he played very well against

795
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: Crosby last week, and I think I thought Jonah Williams

796
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: basically a race in Gokway, who's a you know, a

797
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: great rusher as well. So I think they're coming off

798
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: some game, a game where they can have some momentum

799
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: going into this football game. And then it's going to

800
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: be up to the interior guy, you know, hold down

801
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: the fort against Simmons and and see how that, how

802
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: all that shakes down. But that's going to be the

803
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: key to the game, Dan is how well m You know,

804
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: both both lines pass protect because both lines of both

805
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: offenses have had their trouble in terms of giving up sacks.

806
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: We know the Bengals have given up fifty one, excuse me,

807
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: fifty five now thirtieth in the National Football League. Well,

808
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, you look at the Titans, they've given up

809
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: forty seven. They're twenty seventh in the NFL. So you know,

810
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: both both of these offenses have given up their share

811
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: of pressures and hits and sacks on their quarterback. I

812
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: think that's going to be a big factor in this

813
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: football game. Who can protect their guy? Joe burrows vibe

814
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: since the victory over the Raiders beginning of the postgame

815
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: news conference has been We've got bigger fish to fry.

816
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: It was a great win, but as he said earlier

817
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: this week, one playoff win is the bare minimum around

818
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: here going forward. What does Joe Burrows confidence mean to

819
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals right now and going forward. I think

820
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: it means the world. I really do. I mean I

821
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: think that, you know, And it's always it's always the biggest.

822
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: It always shows itself more so than any anytime it

823
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: builds during the course of the week. You know, his

824
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: teammates see how he prepares, They see how he has

825
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: all the answers to the test that he's ready to play.

826
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: But then there's no substitute for a game day. When

827
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: you go out in the football field in the huddle

828
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: for the first time and you look at the quarterback's face,

829
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: you don't see one ounce of fear, you know, apprehension.

830
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: All you see is a steely eyed, confident the guy

831
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: that's gonna take you to the promised land, and man

832
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: that makes you feel so good. As an offensive lineman.

833
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing more disconcerting to look at the

834
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: quarterback and he looks at you and it's like, Ooh,

835
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about this one. Yeah, that's not a

836
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: good thing. That's not a good thing. And h And

837
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is just the opposite of that. I mean,

838
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is is somebody that you know, he's so

839
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: confident and that's an earned confidence and then everybody feeds

840
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: off of that confidence and they increase their self confidence.

841
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: So it is it's a huge, huge deal and the

842
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: big trickle down effect and Joe Burrow that's the tangible

843
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: aspect of it. You still have to be able to play,

844
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: and this dude can play, and then the intangible of

845
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, all of that that we just talked about.

846
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, he's got it all. That's why

847
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: he's That's why he's Joey be good. Last thing lap

848
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: last week, the Bengals broke their thirty one year playoff drought.

849
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: You played in the bengals first ever playoff win, and

850
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: they had something of a playoff drought going into that.

851
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: They had lost in nineteen seventy seventy three, seventy five.

852
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: They got over the hump beating Buffalo in eighty one.

853
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: Then you won the Freezer Bowl and went to the

854
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Any similarities between then and now for you, Yeah,

855
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: there is, Dan, There's there's a lot of similarities. Um,

856
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, you look at it. It's crazy. Joe Burrow

857
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: is the youngest quarterback to ever win a playoff game

858
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: in franchise history. There's only been three head coaches that

859
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: have won a playoff game in franchise history. Forrest greg

860
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: Our coach in the eighty one Super Bowl season, Sam

861
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: Weish in the eighty eight Super Bowl season, and now

862
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor. Um, and I remember that was that was

863
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: specifically one of our goals. Let's be the team to

864
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: win the first playoff game in franchise history, and we

865
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: did it. Let's be the team to win the first

866
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: AFC Championship in franchise history, and we did it. Let's

867
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: be the team to win the first Super Bowl. Didn't

868
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: do it, but we we climb the ladder of success

869
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: a couple of runs there, you know, we got closer

870
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: and I see similarity. Okay, this team hasn't won a

871
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: playoff game in thirty one years. Let's be the team

872
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: to stop that drought. They did it. You know, let's

873
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: let's let's be the team to advance and win the

874
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: first playoff game on the road. Why don't why don't

875
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: we be the first? Why not us? You know, to

876
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: move on with CJ's slogan. You know, it's like, why

877
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: not us? Why not this football team be the first

878
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: one to go on the road and win a playoff game?

879
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: Oh and seven? That would be you know, that would

880
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: be something to really hang your hat on. You end

881
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: the thirty one year drought and then you you of

882
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: the first team in franchise history, a proud franchise is

883
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: over fifty years in existence, and you go on the

884
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 1: road and you win a playoff game for the first

885
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: time ever, You're he'll always be in history. I mean,

886
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: nobody's ever gonna be able to Nobody can tie it.

887
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: Nobody ever ever able to take it away from you.

888
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: That's what we liked about the fact the first team

889
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: to win a playoff game. Nobody can tie it where

890
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: the only wants to do it. You know, nobody can

891
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: tie the fact that we were the first team to

892
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: win an AFC championship. You can win other championships AFC championships,

893
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: but nobody else can be the one to do it

894
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: the first time. All that stuff's significant, meaningful, you know,

895
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: and that's why that's why you play the game. And

896
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: I think these guys, you know, they don't they don't

897
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: like to listen about, oh, thirty one years in a row,

898
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: haven't won a playoff game. Oh jeez, haven't won a

899
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: playoff game on the road, oh and seven. They don't.

900
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: They don't worry about that. You know, it's not their history.

901
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: Their history. They want to stop that thirty one year

902
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: streak of losing, and they want to be the first

903
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: team to win on the road in the playoffs, and

904
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: I think they get a hell of a chance of

905
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: doing it. Finally, it's time for this week's No the

906
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: Faux segment. Many years ago, at a TV station in Syracuse,

907
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: New York, I worked with a guy named John Burton,

908
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: who is one of my all time favorites on and

909
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: off the air. He's a sports anchor and talk show

910
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: host in Nashville now and he joined Lapping Me this

911
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: week to preview Saturday's game. I started our conversation by

912
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: asking John if Derrick Henry will play for the first

913
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: time since breaking his foot on Halloween. Yeah, not official

914
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: yet from the Titans, but it's a fad to complete.

915
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry will be available. He will play Saturday in

916
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: the playoff game. He's looked good at practice. He actually

917
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: could have been available had the Titans had a game

918
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: this weekend or even the previous weekend in the regular

919
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: season finale. So yeah, he is the King is ready

920
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 1: to go back on his throne. He's primed up, ready

921
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: to go. And the good thing about it is he'll

922
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: have some help because Dontrell Hilliard, d woman had most

923
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: extremely well in the King's absence. You know, the Titans

924
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: are six and three without Derrick Henry this year. And

925
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: if you'd told me that the day he got hurt

926
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: Halloween up in the India, I was there for that,

927
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: I would have said, no way. Yeah, the King's got

928
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: a court man, He's got a couple of people that

929
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: can that can help him there. And the thing about

930
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, you know, it's like, all right, well, he's

931
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: rested and he's uh, you know, ready to roll. He

932
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: can take extend and take a lot of hits and

933
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: dish out a lot of punishment. But is he rusty. Well,

934
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: this guy's work ethic and his conditioning from what I

935
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: read and understand, his conditioning and the way he takes

936
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: care of himself on how he pushes himself is second

937
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: and none. So he'll be ready to roll, won't he?

938
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: He will? Dave. I'll tell you what if you want to,

939
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, go on YouTube and just type in Derrick

940
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: Henry workout. I mean his workouts right broke the internet

941
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: over the summer that this guy works extremely hard, and

942
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: all reports are as he's been really really grinding to

943
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: get ready for this playoff run. So he'll be ready.

944
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: He'll be a little rusty, hasn't been hitting, you know,

945
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: almost ten weeks, so that'll be a factor there. But

946
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: I think after you know, a couple of carries, he'll

947
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: get back into his groove. And again, like we said,

948
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: like you said, Dave, he's got a cord behind him,

949
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: so he struggles early. You put in Deonta Foreman or

950
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: Dontrell Hilliard and uh, you know, you give him a

951
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: rest here and there, and you put him right back

952
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: in there. So this could be that three headed monster

953
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: that we saw with the Giants back in two thousand

954
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: and eight. Remember that Brandon Jacobs, Derek Ward and a

955
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: mod Bradshaw, I could envision that for the Tennessee Titans

956
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: during this playoff run. We are talking to John Burton,

957
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: who covers the Tennessee Titans. Tennessee has used ninety one

958
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: players this year. That is a record for a non

959
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: strike season. So they've had a ton of injuries, but

960
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: it looks like a bunch of these guys have come

961
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: back just in time to face the Bengals on Saturday.

962
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: Is that more or less the case? Yeah, it is

963
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: that it's as healthy as they've been all season. Dan,

964
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you think about the guys that

965
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: have missed significant times one Willie Jones, Well, they're all,

966
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: you know, healthy and ready to go. And the good

967
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: news is their quarterback Ryan Tannehill has managed to stay

968
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: healthy all year. Been a little bit banged up. He's

969
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: been hit a lot this year, way more than he

970
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: was last year, but he's healthy and ready to go.

971
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the fact that they've used so many players,

972
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: ninety one. That's a credit to the head coach, Mike Brabel,

973
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: who I think, along with Zach Taylor, should get you know,

974
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: significant run for head Coach of the Year because Frabel's

975
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: ability to get these new guys in the lineup, coached

976
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: up and ready to play and prepared. It's been It's

977
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: been phenomenal this year because these injuries and illnesses that

978
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: this team has went through this year would have crippled

979
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: most teams. But this is a sturdy organization with a

980
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: with a firm winning culture, and I think that's ropped

981
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: out on these players. So I got to give Frabel

982
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for keeping the ship afloat this

983
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: h This Titan team, just like every team in the NFL,

984
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: has been streaky. I mean, they go eight and two

985
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: in their first ten games, and they beat you know,

986
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: some pretty darn good football teams in those eight victories,

987
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: and they went four and three down the stretch, and

988
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: they lost the teams like the Houston Texans and you know,

989
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: the Patriots and steel has made the playoffs. But we

990
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: Steelers Bengals fans. No, Pittsburgh's not the Pittsburgh Steelers team

991
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: of old. Why why the discrepancy? Why they you know,

992
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: why they're so good and then maybe not so good?

993
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: And is there any concern that they're going into the

994
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: playoffs not playing as well as they did the beginning

995
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: of the season. I can sum it up in one word,

996
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: Dave turnovers. They went through a street where they were

997
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: turning the ball over at an alarming rate. To turn

998
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: the ball over five times in the Texans game. Then

999
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: the next week they come back, they get blown out

1000
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: in New England, they commit four turnovers. They had I

1001
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: believe four turnovers in the Pittsburgh game for whatever reason.

1002
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: You know this, Dave sacks turnovers the East type of

1003
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: things come in bunches. But as long as they're taking

1004
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: care of the football, and they did a better job

1005
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: of that down the stretch. They won that big Thursday

1006
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: night game against San Francisco where they came back. They

1007
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over in that game. The Texans game,

1008
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: even though the defense fell asleep. You know, they had

1009
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: a twenty one nothing lead and then the defense fell asleep.

1010
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: The Texans were able to score eighteen straight points, but

1011
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: Tannehill was able to keep the offense on schedule with

1012
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: no turnovers. As long as they're taking care of the football,

1013
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: you've seen it, guys. They can beat anybody in this league.

1014
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: But when they're turning the ball over, they've become really susceptible.

1015
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: We're chatting with John Burton from Nashville. You brought up

1016
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel, who's been rate in his four years with

1017
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: the Titans. He is best friends with you see head

1018
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: football coach Luke Fickle, going back to their playing days

1019
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. Luke Fickle, as anyone here knows, is

1020
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: a wrestler at heart. He's tough, he's no nonsense, no excuses.

1021
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: Does that basically describe Mike Rabel, no question about it.

1022
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, Dan, the players really relate to

1023
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: him because he was a pretty dark good player on

1024
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: the NFL. He won but three Super Bowls with the Patriots.

1025
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: He went to Kansas City late in his career and

1026
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: made first team All Pro. I mean, he's been there,

1027
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: done that kind of guy. And he is a no

1028
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: nonsense guy. One of the things about Frabel is that

1029
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: he revealed this a couple of weeks ago. The biggest

1030
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: thing about him is he said, I learned not to

1031
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: panic when things come up, injuries, COVID, whatever we're going through.

1032
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: And that's rubbed off on his players, And you're right,

1033
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: he's a guy that is a no nonsense guy. He

1034
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: is a guy that is a straight up, tell it

1035
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: like it is type of type of guy, and he's

1036
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: a players coach because he can relate to these guys.

1037
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: So he's been a perfect fit here in Tennessee him

1038
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: and the GM John Robinson because you know they are

1039
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: developing what they're calling the Titan Way. And you know,

1040
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: you hear coaches with catch phrases all the time. You know,

1041
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin has the standard is the standard, and whoever

1042
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: else you want to name. Frabel's biggest catchphrase is biggest

1043
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: mantra is effort and finish. If you play for Mike Tomlin,

1044
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If you play for Mike Frabel, I should

1045
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: say you have to display those two qualities each and

1046
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: every day you go out on the field, whether it's

1047
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: a practice field or on game day. Effort and finish.

1048
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: And these players are bought in. Yeah, you know, I

1049
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: believe a football team takes on the personality of the

1050
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: head coach. And I look at this football team and

1051
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: I see a physically imposing football team. You got a

1052
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pound running back. You have two

1053
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: receivers in a two hundred and twenty pounds You have

1054
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, Taylor Lawe and the offensive line, Jeffrey Simmons

1055
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: in the defensive line. I mean this is a this

1056
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: is a very very physical football team that does play

1057
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: with high energy and effort and does try to finish

1058
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: you every snap. I mean, is this from a physical standpoint,

1059
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: just you know, a boy walking in the lobby of

1060
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: the hotel. Who, man, these guys look pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.

1061
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: They pride themselves, Dave on their physicality. And you mentioned

1062
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: the guys that you know their size and their speed

1063
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Speaker 1: and their strength. You look at a guy like Jeffrey Simmons,

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Speaker 1: I think that guy's just maybe a notch to a

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Speaker 1: half notch below Aaron Donald. I think these boys become

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Speaker 1: maybe one of the most dominating interior defensive tackles in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. And he plays physical. Their middle linebacker,

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Speaker 1: David Long Junior, he's a physical guy. Kevin Byard, he

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Speaker 1: has that combination, you know, the the all pro safety.

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Speaker 1: He has that combination of physicality and finesse and a

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Speaker 1: knack for finding the football. Yeah, physicality certainly is their

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Speaker 1: calling card, and it does start with Derrick Henry and

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Speaker 1: that offensive line. You know, they want to come off

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Speaker 1: the ball, smack you right in the face, and impose

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Speaker 1: their will. So the all important third phase gets neglected.

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Speaker 1: You know, the bigger the game, the less it gets

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Speaker 1: talked about special teams, hidden yards, field position, all that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. How have special teams in specifically the

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Speaker 1: kickers and the kicking game house it performed for Tennessee

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Speaker 1: this year. They've both been solid, Dave. You know, Randy

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Speaker 1: Bullocks come in. This organization has had a bad, bad

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Speaker 1: run of luck with kickers ever since Ryan suck Up

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Speaker 1: left and they finally have that stabilize with Randy Bullock.

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Speaker 1: He's been fantastic. I think he's only missed maybe three

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Speaker 1: or four kicks all year. Brett Kern, they're all pro punter,

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Speaker 1: one of the best punters really in NFL history. His

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Speaker 1: consistency with pinning teams deep inside the twenty and most

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Speaker 1: times inside the ten has been pretty significant. In Chester,

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Speaker 1: Rogers has done a nice job in the return game,

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Speaker 1: especially on punk returns. You know, he's had some big

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Speaker 1: punt returns this year to set up scores. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's you're right. That is the ignored phase, especially out

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But the Titans a big reason why

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Speaker 1: they're twelve and five in the one seed. You can't

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Speaker 1: ignore the special teams on the whole. They've been solid

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Speaker 1: for this team all year. I'm sure Bengals fans just

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Speaker 1: heard you say Randy both has been fantastic and say

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Speaker 1: why what did he just say? Because because Randy was

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Speaker 1: not necessarily fantastic with the Bengals, although he wasn't terrible.

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Speaker 1: Is his errors were exaggerated. But in any case, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be an awesome game on Saturday, a tremendous atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to it, looking forward to seeing you, my friend, man,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fantastic. Like you said, I'm really looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it because the Bengals I love these young,

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Speaker 1: hungry teams that you know, go in with the mindset

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Speaker 1: of hey, why not us? And that's how I feel

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Speaker 1: about the Bengals. And of course the Titans feel like

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Speaker 1: it's their year. It's going to be a battle on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for it? All right? Thanks to John Burton

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Speaker 1: and for much more on Saturday's game. Join lapping Me

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Speaker 1: for the Bengals Pepper Rally Show Friday afternoon from three

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Speaker 1: to six on ESPN fifteen thirty or on the iHeartMedia

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