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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for a day? Edith Steak is that woof woof? And

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Speaker 1: them and Tye welcome back to the Solid Verbel boys

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Speaker 1: and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as

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Speaker 1: always over there Chicago, Illinoise her seen sir, No, how

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Speaker 1: are you today? I'm pretty good. Had had a nice

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Speaker 1: little productive day this morning. Dropped off the Solid toddler

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Speaker 1: at camp for a couple hours. Got some work in

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Speaker 1: for this show. Yeah, for another show that we haven't released,

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Speaker 1: like a full other podcast that we're yet to launch.

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Speaker 1: Got some work in for Solid Verbal Media, inc. Got

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Speaker 1: I think we're near finalized. I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: we were supposed to announce anything yet, but the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: You sent it along on was it yesterday or the

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Speaker 2: day before? Whenever you sent it along the this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Yesterday? Very crisp, crisp, A great way to describe it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, had myself some ice Chai. Keep the creativity flowing,

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Speaker 1: and I was talking to you and doing all sorts

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Speaker 1: of things. So you know, I made a nice little

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Speaker 1: target run. TI. I'm very happy with how my morning

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Speaker 1: turned out. How are you? I'm good. Look, We've got

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Speaker 1: an exciting show in front of us. For this reason

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Speaker 1: and this reason alone. It is not the college pitch segment,

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Speaker 1: did have some gracious TCU brethren come to make it

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Speaker 1: from a social media coordinator than you are a recruiting coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps had some thoughtful, gracious es TCU brethren come to

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Speaker 2: that they wouldn't go to any school I was selling,

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Speaker 2: and they also wouldn't trust you, which's right, I think

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Speaker 2: is about right. Anyway, it is not that bit today

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Speaker 2: each other questions. Right, We're getting pretty damn close now

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Speaker 2: to the start of the college football season, or at

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Speaker 2: least what we would consider the preseason. We've got publications

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Speaker 2: should be looking for, et cetera, etcetera. Up Here in

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Speaker 2: feeling with regard to the coming season, to the coming preseason,

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Speaker 2: and so forth. So what we've got today, we each

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Speaker 2: have five questions for one another. I've got five questions

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Speaker 2: in true solid verbal fashion, one of those questions going

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Speaker 2: each way is tangentially related to college football, right, tangentially

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Speaker 2: related to tie Dan so Halftentally.

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Speaker 1: I just said off topic. It would be anything you want.

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Speaker 1: You could ask my hamstring techniques for stretching. You could

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Speaker 1: Mine is tangential to college football. Yeah, my mine is

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Speaker 1: leg swings and some various floor stretches. If people are interested.

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Speaker 1: We can go into further detail another time. Solid Rebel

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Speaker 2: We're going to be posting some fun stuff there. Yes, absolutely, Daniel,

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Speaker 2: this was your concept, as many have been. We've done

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Speaker 1: I think the case is interesting for a couple of teams,

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Speaker 1: But Alabama has a more difficult schedule to play than Clemson.

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Speaker 2: They've also got a bunch of weapons coming back, a

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Speaker 1: I have it down here that Oklahoma does play Kansas

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Speaker 2: You have to pick one of the following Week one

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Speaker 1: We've also got.

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Speaker 2: against Florida State. They are all Week one games. Are

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Speaker 1: Who you're going with? Who's your lock? I think the

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Speaker 1: the Baby Bears, the Bruins.

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Speaker 1: Why I lived my life a certain way, right, I

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Speaker 2: When we when we talked about potential Week one matchups,

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Speaker 2: maybe a month or two ago, you flagged this one.

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Speaker 2: You flagged LSU at EUCLA. You tend to think that

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Speaker 1: second game, it's at home. It's LSU's first game on

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Speaker 2: My second selection here would probably also be that LSU game.

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Speaker 1: Where is Clemson Georgia neutral? I believe? So is that well?

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Speaker 2: All right, next question for you, what is a realistic

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Speaker 1: COVID here bind you, blah blah blah, PSU. My Knits

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Speaker 1: could have a big bounce back year. Yeah, if your

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Speaker 1: team's LSU, just because I feel like quarterback is in

433
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Speaker 1: a better place and I know Tanner Morgan's back from

434
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Speaker 1: Minnesota and they had all sorts of issues last year

435
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Speaker 1: in terms of availability and guys early on, but that

436
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: defense was a mess. Defense was truly a mess at

437
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: times last year, and they just got worked over by Iowa, right, Like,

438
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: those are the types of things I hate to see

439
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Speaker 1: happen middle to late in the year. Like LSU really

440
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: did seem to get its act together, even though there

441
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: were defensive struggles for sure, all season long, they solidified

442
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Speaker 1: things on offense, they started making plays on defense a

443
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Speaker 1: little bit more so LS Who's my answer? Of those teams,

444
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Speaker 1: no uncharacteristically down year to bounce back from that was

445
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: sort of a mirage. I mentioned UCLA with how close

446
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: their losses were situationally, I think that's interesting if you're

447
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Speaker 1: looking for like a big win jump.

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Speaker 2: Here's why Wisconsin's a very interesting answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about Wisconsin, because I don't I have

450
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Speaker 1: no idea if I fully trust Grammarts, I don't know either,

451
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Speaker 1: But I know that the schedule is very workable and

452
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: for the most part, front loaded, all right. So we

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Speaker 1: talked about the Penn State game, which they're a slight

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Speaker 1: favorite at home week one. They've also got the Notre

455
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: Dame game, the neutral site game in Chicago Soldier Field

456
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Speaker 1: in a September. Probably will be a dog in that game,

457
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Speaker 1: but we'll see after that. They've got Michigan also at

458
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Speaker 1: home Camp Randall Stadium. Don't know what the line's going

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Speaker 1: to look like.

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Speaker 2: I would assume that they're probably going to be favored

461
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Speaker 2: in that one as well. Between October the second when

462
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Speaker 2: they play Michigan and the rest of the year, here's

463
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Speaker 2: what their schedule looks like at Illinois Army at Purdue

464
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Speaker 2: homecoming game again obviously at home Camp Randall against Iowa,

465
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Speaker 2: which will be a tough out always is. Then another

466
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Speaker 2: home game against Northwestern, then another home game against Nebraska,

467
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Speaker 2: and then they close out the year on the road

468
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Speaker 2: at Minnesota. So most of the big games are at home.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much all these games are at home for Wisconsin,

470
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Speaker 2: and after the first week of October it gets much

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Speaker 2: much much easier. So we could be in a situation

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Speaker 2: where let's say Wisconsin goes, you know, two and one,

473
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Speaker 2: two and two, even first couple of games of the year,

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Speaker 2: runs the table. The rest of the way, they slowly

475
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Speaker 2: but steadily move up in the polls and eventually find

476
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Speaker 2: their way into the Big Ten championships. So this schedule

477
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Speaker 2: does not scare me, is what I'm saying. And it

478
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Speaker 2: does not scare me at all because it's there aren't

479
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Speaker 2: a lot of heavy hitters on here, and it is

480
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Speaker 2: mostly front loaded.

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Speaker 1: Man, I don't know. I watched Wisconsin put up single

482
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Speaker 1: digits three straight games last year against not crazy playoff

483
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Speaker 1: level competitions. True, it's true. It's true. It's a post

484
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: COVID Grammars, and so you don't know what his capability was, physically, mentally, emotionally, whatever.

485
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Speaker 1: That definitely hurts. And certainly there is a lot to

486
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Speaker 1: be encouraged by who they play wake in their bowl game,

487
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Speaker 1: so that that's encouraging. They scored in that game, which

488
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: is always nice. Thanks for that, Wisconsin. My issue is

489
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Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of high floor teams on this

490
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: schedule not necessarily killers. But you mentioned backloaded, so what

491
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: you have army never easy. Purdue should probably not have

492
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: a good year this year. Iowa destroyed them last year.

493
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: Rutgers is certainly getting better, like the general talent level

494
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: and the recruiting level is definitely getting better at Rutgers,

495
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Speaker 1: and you saw them make noise last year. Northwestern won

496
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Speaker 1: the division. Nebraska I'm not terribly worried about right now.

497
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: And Minnesota is kind of a wild card right now.

498
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Speaker 1: And you talk about the top of that, like Wisconsin

499
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Speaker 1: isn't going five and seven, but maybe they will, Like

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Speaker 1: I just I don't have a read on it because

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00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: of the depth to which they fell offensively last year.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know how much you could read

503
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Speaker 1: into that. For what it's worth.

504
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: Vegas has them at an over under of nine and

505
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Speaker 2: a half for their win total going.

506
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Speaker 1: Into would love that under and make sure that that's

507
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: right nine and a half. Would I would take that

508
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: under out to a too good First State restaurant because

509
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Speaker 1: I was feeling so good about it. People feel as

510
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: good about the under to the number as they do

511
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: about the over for Texas in eight wins, So you

512
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: are simpatico. Let's say with the betting public, you know,

513
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: the the problem is Wisconsin misses some to me current

514
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: guppy ish teams in the Big Ten. They don't get

515
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Speaker 1: Michigan State, they don't get Maryland, which I would feel

516
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Speaker 1: better about in terms of padding that win total. Getting

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Speaker 1: Purdue as a road game is nice. Getting Rutgers as

518
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: a road game is nice. They're road slate at Illinois,

519
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: at Purdue, at Rutgers, at Minnesota. It's choice tie, that's USDA,

520
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: whatever the top of USDA is. But okay, all right,

521
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Speaker 1: I have my concerns. I just I want like there's

522
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Speaker 1: no obvious killer at running back for the first time

523
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Speaker 1: in a few years, and the receiving situation has gotten worse.

524
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Speaker 1: Quarterback is kind of a question mark at the moment.

525
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Speaker 1: And defensively it definitely took a step back. You know,

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Speaker 1: they weren't aided by their offense. But I just have concerns.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back to the off topic questions. Why don't

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Speaker 1: you give me your four college football related ones? All right,

529
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Speaker 1: this one I'm curious about because this is entirely subjective

530
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Speaker 1: and this is just me taking the temperature inside your brain.

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Speaker 1: Number one, if you had your way, which matchups would

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Speaker 1: decide the top of each conference purely out of not

533
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Speaker 1: just like college football is better when this team is good,

534
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: no like how a team is currently constituted, if they

535
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Speaker 1: were to reach their potential, it would make for the

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Speaker 1: most interesting conference deciding matchup. Not necessarily championship, but like

537
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Speaker 1: like we had those Clemson Florida State ones. For instance,

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Speaker 1: all those years at Florida State, which is dominated until

539
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Speaker 1: the tables were turned, we had a whole bunch of

540
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Speaker 1: big you know, USC Oregon games. We had obviously Oklahoma

541
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Texas seemed to play or even Bedlam was a huge

542
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: matchup that helped to decide the big twelve year in

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Speaker 1: and year out. And of course Alabama LSU and what

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Speaker 1: to you should be realistically within this season maybe next

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Speaker 1: year your ideal heavyweight groupings of matchups. Okay, so a

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Speaker 1: couple questions here before we address this question. Yeah, am

547
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Speaker 1: I limited by the current divisional structure? Or am I

548
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Speaker 1: picking out two teams that I would like to see

549
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Speaker 1: in an ideal world the side a conference? I think

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Speaker 1: the latter preferably during the season, right, So that's like

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Speaker 1: it's an annual huge matchup. Maybe it even has a name,

552
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Speaker 1: maybe there's a trophy awarded to the winner of this matchup,

553
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: and it just has lost its luster. So, like, my

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Speaker 1: clear example is Florida State Clemson right for the ACC.

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Speaker 1: I want Mackenzie Milton to be amazing. I want the

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Speaker 1: defense to at least be competent, and I want you know,

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Speaker 1: they were led by the rushing attack that I think

558
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: the running backs are ahead of the receivers right now,

559
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: and the offensive line has improved enough. Like I want

560
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Speaker 1: Mackenzie Milton to be so good that he is he

561
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Speaker 1: will will Florida State to become a competitive type team.

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Speaker 1: Now they're far away from Clemson, but to me, that

563
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: sort of Florida State team. I think they have the

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Speaker 1: number one recruiting class in the ACC right now. It's early,

565
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: it's definitely early, but they've got some incredible guys committed.

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Speaker 1: That to me is like we need this because Clemson

567
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Speaker 1: waltzing through the ACC is not fun. Okay, well, so

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Speaker 1: you stole my thunder a little bit with s soon

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Speaker 1: continue Clemson For my general thought there, yeah, for sure,

570
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Speaker 1: I think Clemson Florida State is my answer for the ACC.

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Speaker 1: They do play middle of the season.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully Mackenzie Milton is healthy and healed and we get

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Speaker 2: a good game there because we haven't haven't for a

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Speaker 2: while in that rivalry. So for me, that's the obviously,

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Speaker 2: or we would see something decided during the season about

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Speaker 2: midway through Clemson Florida State is probably unrealistic though for

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Speaker 2: this probably unrealistic. But for my purposes, you asked the question,

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Speaker 2: I would say to Texas, Oklahoma maybe is the lowest

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Speaker 2: hanging fruit. I am terribly curious about what Oklahoma looks like,

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Speaker 2: what their defense in particular looks like, and I'm very

581
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: curious to see what Steve Sarkisian can pull out of

582
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Speaker 2: his hat. You know, I don't know if you have

583
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Speaker 2: any objections to that, but the Red River Shootout is

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Speaker 2: not only something that we get during the season. We

585
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Speaker 2: could get another version of it. I'm not crazy about

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Speaker 2: the rematch potential, if I'm being fair, but the Red

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Speaker 2: River Shootout is a great rivalry. These are two great teams,

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Speaker 2: two historic programs, Texas Oklahoma and the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: For me, that's not my answer for the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: For what it's worth, are you gonna.

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Speaker 2: Say, Iowa State Oklahoma nope, Iowa State, Texas Nope, Iowa State,

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Speaker 2: Kansas State nope.

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Speaker 1: Are there other teams left? Yeah, of course I want bedlam.

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Speaker 1: Oh Okay, I like that interstate thing. I like that

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Speaker 1: it's later on in the season. We've had it as

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Speaker 1: like the final game in years past. I like that

597
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: element of.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks in a row bedlam, right.

599
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Speaker 1: I like the element of you know, this is all gas,

600
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Speaker 1: no breaks. Apologies to Steve Sarkasian who stood next to

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Speaker 1: an all gas no breaks sign at Texas. I like

602
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Speaker 1: that there's that history of shootoutiness. And I don't love

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Speaker 1: where Oklahoma State is offensively right now, but there is

604
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Speaker 1: something that's pretty great about confining conference power into a state,

605
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: much in the way the Iron Bowl does to a

606
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: lot of people in the state of Alabama. That's something

607
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: to me that I like a lot. And you have

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Speaker 1: the personalities in there with Gundhy and not that Lincoln

609
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: Riley's a huge personality, but there is that element of

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Speaker 1: like younger guy against like school lifer and Gundhy that

611
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: to me has the highest spice potential. Right, So that's

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Speaker 1: where my brain goes Texas. I just Texas and Oklahoma

613
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: played wild games every year, and it doesn't necessarily seem

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Speaker 1: to propel Texas past Oklahoma ever, not that Oklahoma State

615
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: doesn't for Oklahoma either, but there is that spice end

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Speaker 1: of the year that I just really appreciate.

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Speaker 2: I think in the SEC for me, it's going to

618
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 2: be Bama and Florida they play earlier in the year.

619
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Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by Georgia for obvious reasons, but I still

620
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Speaker 2: don't really know what that offense is going to look like.

621
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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of Nick Saban Old Nick Saban

622
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Speaker 2: and Kirby Smart, and so I fear that if the

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Speaker 2: two of them play, it's going to be a painfully boring,

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00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: defensive slugfest, even though recent memory has not exactly proven

625
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: that out these are teams that can score. But Florida's

626
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: got who Emery Jones this year as it started, we'll say, yeah,

627
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 2: we'll see. I feel like between Bryce Young and m Jones,

628
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: that's going to be a fun game to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we've seen certain offensive minds have a

630
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: good amount of success against Alabama, be it Hugh Freeze

631
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: and you know Joe Brady a couple of years ago

632
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: at LSU and Lane Kiffin and Dan Mullins. Certainly they

633
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: put up points in the SEC championship game. I can't

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00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: go away from Alabama LSU. In the SEC. There's a

635
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: certain amount of energy and annual big gaminess, which wants

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00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: to be described as having big gaming big gaminess. There

637
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: is that that heavy weight. And I didn't love nine

638
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: to six, but I love the shootout a couple of

639
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: years ago. And I love that year in and year out.

640
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: That's like a calendar circler that you have that element

641
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: of Louisiana and people, you know, flying to New Orleans

642
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: and spending time there and then driving up to Baton

643
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: Rouge or going to town whatever, and I like that.

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00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: I like thee See West when LSU has a puncher's chance,

645
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Speaker 1: and iron Bol's fantastic, the cocktail Party's fantastic. There's all

646
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: sorts of rivalries and big games throughout the conference, but

647
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: given the recent history, the best kind of baggage exists

648
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: within the Alabama LSU universe. So that's my answer.

649
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I am intrigued by Florida, sure, totally.

650
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: In the PAC twelve, I guess I go USC and Oregon.

651
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily have a natural foil to Oregon. Maybe

652
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: it's like Washington.

653
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: I know it's a rivalry, but I kind of don't

654
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: care about that. From this coast, I think USC Oregon

655
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: is the matchup to me that's most interesting. And then

656
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, I would I would say Penn

657
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: State and Ohio State, and I'd say Ohio State. It's

658
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: my answer for the Big Ten too though, Yeah, and

659
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm because I'm biased. The white out environment, right is

660
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: the best environment in the Big Ten in terms of

661
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: just like, look, you can go to a great, loud,

662
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: obnoxious game in a number of places. You can go

663
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: to Camp Rand or you can go wherever. But the

664
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: white out with Ohio State visiting, to me subjectively me

665
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: is just yeah, can I say the tits? Like that's

666
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: just top of the level energy stakes. You know, we've

667
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: seen games come down to like, oh my god, how

668
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: could you make that call at the end of the game,

669
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: or oh my god, how could that you know that

670
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: punch to that field goal got blocked and that decided everything,

671
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: Like there's just something the tiny moments get so magnified

672
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: in that game.

673
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: Yea that I love that, And plus you always have

674
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: the opportunity to watch James Franklin botch.

675
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: A two minute offense at the end of the game.

676
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: It's not the selling point, a little cherry on top

677
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: for those of you who don't like Penn State. It's

678
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: always always on the table when you've got a big game.

679
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: So I think those are my at least five Power

680
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: Conference answers. We could debate those two are blue in

681
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: the face, but sure, I want to move on a

682
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: question two. Let's do it. Okay, I've tweeted about this

683
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I've been watching a lot of

684
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: F one because I watched the Netflix sort of hard

685
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: knocks F one show Drive to Survive. Then I've been

686
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: watching the races on Sunday morning, even a little bit

687
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: of qualifying times. I am all right, why not, I'm

688
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: getting sold. And a hallmark of racing is you're drafting

689
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: behind the car in front of you and just biding

690
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: your time to wait for that perfect moment to sling

691
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: shot past the car in front of you. You know

692
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: you're to make your move. So to you who has

693
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: been building you know, whether it's you know, getting transfers

694
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: in recruiting, the recruiting has improved the assistant coaches coming

695
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: in have been really impressive. Who has been building to

696
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: that point. I'm not saying going from second in the

697
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: conference to supplanting the top team, but saying, Okay, here's

698
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: a mid tier conference team they're going to sling shot

699
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: past the second level of the conference. Or it could

700
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: be number two in the conference or number three in

701
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: the conference, who has been quietly methodically building and all

702
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden you could see them just hitting the

703
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: knas or whatever it is people do in the nas

704
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: fast as the familiars and furious style. I am not

705
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: going to answer your question in the manner that next question,

706
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no, no, in the manner that you

707
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: want me to. Okay, and I give this one, not

708
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: implying that anyone is going to zoom past Clemson. Okay,

709
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: But Florida State right now has a top five class

710
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two recruiting sign Now, it's a

711
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: really good class. It feels like there is a lot

712
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: of momentum there in the recruiting game, especially Mike Norvel's

713
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: an elite level recruiter. We already know there's a commitment

714
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: to football at Florida State. Duh.

715
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 2: The on field product is obviously what needs to improve,

716
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: and I feel like they're not all that far away

717
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: from doing it. We'll see what Mackenzie Milton can do,

718
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: but I feel like if the on field product can improve,

719
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: just ever so marginally, that would go a great ways

720
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: towards improving recruiting, improving morale, and continuing to build that

721
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: momentum in Tallahassee. I expect that the on field product

722
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: will improve. I just don't know what that looks like

723
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: relative to the schedule, because it is not the easiest

724
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: schedule in the world. There are like five very losable

725
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: games on that schedule. They've got Notre Dame, They've got Clemson,

726
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: they've got North Carolina, Miami, they've got Florida. So it's

727
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: going to be a tough go from a scheduling standpoint.

728
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: They will pick one or two of those teams off.

729
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: They will.

730
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm very bullish on Florida State this year. So if

731
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: that on field product improves a little bit, if recruiting

732
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: stays strong, I think that is a team that is

733
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: primed to take the biggest jump into competitive ACC football,

734
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: let's say, because what we're really waiting for is for

735
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: somebody else to rise up and take on Clemson. Granted,

736
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: same division, same side of the division, but just to

737
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: give somebody a faux year in, year out, a true

738
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: land mine that they have to worry about every year.

739
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: For Florida State to reclaim that Mantle will be a

740
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: big deal. So Florida State's my answer. I don't think

741
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: Florida State is right my opinion, Okay, I just think

742
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: that defense is so far away. I just like, I'm

743
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: talking about a team that has already and I like

744
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 2: the Mackenzie Milton edition, but a team that has already

745
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: recruited well for a couple of years, that has already

746
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: hired really well, that has already have I mean, they

747
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: don't necessarily have to have a quarterback in place, but

748
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: like a very clear quarterback of the future in place

749
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: like North Carolina is an interesting answer to that because

750
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: of the recruiting level. I think Texas A and M

751
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: was an answer and they kind of sling shot with

752
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: LSU and Auburn having down seasons in the West and

753
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: Mississippi schools hiring new coaches. I think that's the level

754
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: where A and M really did a very impressive job

755
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: building up the talent, getting the results on the field. Now,

756
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: they were not a playoff team, but they were the

757
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 2: closest team knocking on the door. And if Haines King

758
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: is good, the problem is obviously they have a monster

759
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: that they're not gonna be able to sling shot past,

760
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 2: in my opinion. But where they were last year heading

761
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: into the season, that was a clear team. Florida was

762
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: a sling shot team.

763
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: I think it's very difficult. We mentioned UCLA a couple times.

764
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: That would be my answer there probably in the Pac

765
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: twelve in terms of sling shotting past the middle of

766
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: the conference, I think they are not the top of

767
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: the conference, but in that top conversation that that upper

768
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: quarter of the conference quadrant, if you will, oh, excuse me, quadrant.

769
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the correction. I appreciate that, SCC.

770
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't I think we're probably a year away from

771
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: feeling especially good about Miszoo.

772
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: I think they're in there, they're drafting right now or

773
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: more than a year away. But continue, what do you mean?

774
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if I feel that bullish on Miszoo.

775
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: Oh you don't feel bulls like drinkquts, But I don't

776
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: aboudy year.

777
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't know. I think they play hard

778
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: for him. I like to where their their head is

779
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: at recruiting wise, just in terms of like they're a

780
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: five hundred team right now, right they went four and four,

781
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: five and five, whatever it was. I think they can

782
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: be an eight and four type team and three. Yeah,

783
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: I don't big ten a slingshot like it would have

784
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: been nice to say Indiana, it really would have been

785
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: to call that. But you can get in on Maryland

786
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: because they've they've had a couple of really big recruiting

787
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: wins in the best of te Lea Tunga Vailoa. No,

788
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: you can't get in on Maryland. Don't do that to yourself.

789
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: You can get in, don't do it. Well. I'm just

790
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: saying there are positive there are positive elements to the

791
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: Terp's momentum, right, not saying that they will slingshot.

792
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying that they're a sling candidate. Everybody's a sling candidate.

793
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: But don't do it to yourself. No, No, like the

794
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Michigan is not a sling candidate. Michigan hasn't been quietly

795
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: building towards the big moment where like Cade McNamara or J. J.

796
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: McCarthy or whoever is going to be a Heisman contender.

797
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: Like there, their trajectory isn't such that they're a sling candidate,

798
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: but in terms of slope like Iowa sort of is

799
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: what it is, what it is Northwestern slung back to where.

800
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: They have been. Let's let's go to question Mary, Maryland's

801
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: the candidate. Maryland's the candidate. Don't do that to yourself, don't.

802
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: I'm not choosing them, but I'm saying if you were

803
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: seeking a candidate, that's who it is.

804
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: All right, next question, what do we got next?

805
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 1: Okay, this is sort of similarly in line. We've talked

806
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: about going from bad to good being easier from going

807
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: than it's easier going from bad to good than going

808
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: from good to great. Correct, right, And we mentioned stuff

809
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: like that. So and we've mentioned all of these teams

810
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: now this show. But of these teams, or maybe you

811
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: have another team in mind, who is closest to getting

812
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: over their personal hump? Now everybody's hump is a little

813
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: bit different, but essentially it's who's closest to getting into

814
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: the top four, because that's what we're looking at in

815
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: terms of going from good to great. Is that's that's

816
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: the benchmark right now. Maybe maybe it goes to twelve

817
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: in a couple of years, four years, whatever it is,

818
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: that's the benchmark. We're talking about teams that are knocking

819
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: on that door. Notre Dame who've now made it to

820
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: the top four but look like they have a ceiling,

821
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: Wisconsin who have been very close but have not cracked it.

822
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: Oregon been close since they did crack it in the

823
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: inaugural season of being a top four team. And Florida

824
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: right who they were in the SEC Championship game. They

825
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: slung past Georgia last year, but certainly looked like just

826
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: in terms of some defensive regression, they had health issues

827
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: on offense. Who of those teams, well, it's just like

828
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: there's two this little tweak. There are two obviously answers.

829
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: Number one Notre Dame because recruiting is strong, the schedule

830
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: sets up well to put him in position for a playoff.

831
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: And we're at the point now with Notre Dame Dan

832
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: where it is that constant exposure on the nest national

833
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: stage that's going to keep attracting talent. Frankly, just give

834
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: them more opportunities to play against better teams. Okay, the skeptic,

835
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: and you could say that's more opportunity to lose. It's

836
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: also more opportunity to win. Sooner or later, they're going

837
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: to break through, but they have to keep putting themselves

838
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: in that situation. They have to put themselves in that

839
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: situation to keep getting there, to keep getting the talent,

840
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: and eventually they will have their breakthrough moment. But they don't.

841
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: We have a sample size. We have a sample size,

842
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, unlike what we have from Dan Mullen and

843
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: Mario Cristobal. We sort of do it with Paul christ

844
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: for sure, but we at least don't. We haven't seen

845
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: Florida or Oregon reach that point and just be very

846
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: clearly outclassed.

847
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: Now, listen, hold on when Boise State, just as a

848
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: crude example, sure whoa when Boise State eventually made their

849
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: emergence onto the college football stage and became more of

850
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: a national talking point. That happened gradually over the course

851
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: of time and with repeated attempts. Repeatedly they would play

852
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: against teams that were perceived to be better than them. Now,

853
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: in a lot of cases they won those games. Important disclaimer,

854
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 2: but they went to bowl games it did well. They

855
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: played against non conference opponents, they did well. It was

856
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: that slow and steady drum beat over the course of

857
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: two decades that got.

858
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: Them to where they're at now now. Notre Dame is not,

859
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: of course, the perfect analog to Boise State in this comparison,

860
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: but my only point is they're now at the stage

861
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: where they're really only a couple positions away from feeling

862
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: a lot more competitive in some of those big matchups.

863
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about clearly, I'm merely six abs away.

864
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: They need the quarterback, they need the quarterback. They need

865
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback. They get the quarterback. I think that's a

866
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: huge turning point. I don't know if they found that

867
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: quarterback with Tyler Buckner. Time will tell, but I feel

868
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: like Notre Dame is the obvious choice, if only because

869
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: they have the cleanest pathway to get there.

870
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: Oregon is number two for me. Oregon is number two

871
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: because there just isn't that goliath standing in their way

872
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: in the North of the South. They're building that team.

873
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a different composition than it

874
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: was when Ship Kelly was there. Maria Christaball's got a

875
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: different philosophy about how he's building his team. It's a

876
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: lot more physical now and they're still pulling that top

877
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: tier talent. So I think Oregon's the obvious one to me.

878
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: They too need to figure out their quarterback spot. But

879
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: Oregon in the PAC twelve, I think is an easy

880
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: number two. It's on the same tier as Notre Dame. Look,

881
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: I can't go Wisconsin because they got to contend with

882
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: Ohio State. I can't go Florida because they've got to

883
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 2: contend with both Georgia. But with Alix on the SEC West, No.

884
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: I know, but there's at least an element with Wisconsin

885
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: where they've gotten to that stage against Ohio State. They've

886
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: given Ohio State all it can handle and they came

887
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: up short. Like I think Wisconsin has acquitted itself at

888
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: times better than Notre Dame has acquitted itself against the

889
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: best teams that they've played.

890
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: No, that's totally fair, That's totally fair. But again I'm

891
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: looking at this through the lens of repeated opportunities. Sure,

892
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 2: you know, giving yourself more bites at the apple, and

893
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: from my view, the two teams that are best positioned

894
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: to do that are both Notre Dame and Oregon.

895
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: So those are my answers. Yeah, I mean I'm too

896
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: close to Oregon.

897
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: Oregon's a compelling answer, Oh, it sure is, but could

898
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: very easily be your number one here.

899
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem with Oregon right now is there's like

900
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: they have a blue chip quarterback waiting in the wings,

901
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: but there's nothing in terms of clear optimism that they've

902
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: got that guy ready to go and push them over

903
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: the top. That's the problem with Oregon. And I mean, yeah, Wisconsin,

904
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit down on, like I think they

905
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: may have peaked. And Florida I think is quite interesting

906
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: and I know they have at least one blue chip

907
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: quarterback committed, but again, there's no obvious clear answer that, Okay,

908
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: they've got like their next version of Kyle Trask or

909
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott or whoever from the Dan Mullen universe. But

910
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: Florida is the most interesting answer in terms of offensive

911
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: mind mixed with talent availability, proximity, recruiting track record. Oregon's

912
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: recruited very well. Notre Dame's recruited very well. My issue

913
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: with Notre Dame is we actually have a sample size.

914
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: You know, Brian Kelly, Notre Dame teams don't beat the

915
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: best teams in the country in December and January, Like,

916
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: that's if nothing else about Brian Kelly. We know he's

917
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: done a great job with Notre Dame, but he's the

918
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: one who has shown us Not Dame ceiling this past

919
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: decade for sure. So that and that is, that's the

920
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: problem that at least Mario Christball and Dan mullend haven't

921
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: had the sample size yet.

922
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: And that is the main point of criticism for Kelly.

923
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: It is he's gotten to the stage a couple times

924
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 2: now and has very much underperformed.

925
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: I you know, who knows how to get there to

926
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: underperform though, and Notre Dame's on that they got there,

927
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: that's great.

928
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: Who knows what happens if they expand this thing up

929
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: to twelve that could be a different conversation altogether, But

930
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: at least Notre Dame. I'm again my vantage point here

931
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: is which team has the easiest road to make it

932
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: back and potentially get a big win. I know and

933
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: there and they haven't, but I think they've got the

934
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: easiest pathway at least how the system is currently set up.

935
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, this question is much more around like, Okay, who's

936
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: going to win that game? That that it's going to

937
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: tell everybody. Yep, this is a new era of team blank,

938
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: team blank, final college football question. Ty, you're a generally

939
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: optimistic person. You are, I am, You're a You're a

940
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: glass half full. You're you're a positive person. You have

941
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: very few enemies, but there are enemies out there. There

942
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: are some. I'm I now want the venom to envelop

943
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: you like the Spider Man evil until Black Power? Right, Yeah,

944
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: I need that, like real weird tongue to come out.

945
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: Doesn't venom have like isn't there a strange tongue situation?

946
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: Am I making that up? I have no idea. Okay,

947
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: plant your flag now, be negative. I know this is

948
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: against your character. Late June, which first year college football

949
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: head coach higher so just hired, has not coached a

950
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: game for their team yet? Are you gonna plant your

951
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: flag right now? It's say, doesn't work for me? Okay,

952
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: the lowest haanging fruit. I feel like I've said that

953
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: a thousand times in this episode, would be Jedfish at Arizona.

954
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: It's only because he's a first time head coach. He's

955
00:52:59,239 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: learning on the fly.

956
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: I Yeah, were you the one who told me there

957
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: were some within the program that really wanted Jedfish.

958
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: But there were others who are like, maybe the president,

959
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: the school president really wanted him, and that was like

960
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: the biggest voice.

961
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, not everybody was fully in on Jedfish. That said,

962
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: everyone seems to be excited about what he built.

963
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: Really low.

964
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: The bar is super super low, super low, and from

965
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 2: the bit that I've read starting to do research here,

966
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: there seems to be excitement about what he's building. So

967
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 2: I am not gonna make Jedfish my answer. My answer

968
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: is Josh Hypel also known as Josh Hopl from back

969
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: in the day Josh Whipel got hired at Tennessee. So

970
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: Danny White, the previous ad at UCF, came up to

971
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: Knoxville and when they were looking for a new head

972
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: football coach, he also brought along.

973
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: Hypel was with him at UCF. I feel like he's

974
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: going to give the offense some juice. That's what he's

975
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 1: very good at, and certainly that has been his track record.

976
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: He's good offensive mind. M hmm.

977
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: There's just not a huge track record there for building

978
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: a program for reeling in the type of elite talent

979
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: that you're going to need to make the vas competitive.

980
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: In the SEC.

981
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: And there's also like that weird potential sanctioned situation at Tennessee,

982
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 2: which does enter into the fray as well.

983
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: Right.

984
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: I remember when this announcement was made, there were a

985
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 2: bunch of names that came out as potentials for Tennessee,

986
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 2: and then I heard Hypel and I was like, oh, okay,

987
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about this one. It's

988
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: not giving me the worm fuzzies for what it's worth.

989
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly to give me the warm fuzzies when he

990
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: got hired at Notre Dame, I mean he's worked out

991
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: pretty well. Yeah, so the warm fuzzies aren't necessarily a

992
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,959
Speaker 2: great scientific indicator for how well a coach is or isn't.

993
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: But was there was there a clear, better and willing option.

994
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: That's the issue, Like no, no, And I look, I'm

995
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: not necessarily faulting anyone for the higher it's a fine

996
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: hire and understand why they did it.

997
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just doesn't do it for me. So if

998
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to anybody, is he more set up to

999
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: fail than others? That's what essentially you're saying. I think so, Yeah,

1000
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: I think so. Because it's a tough spot. You've got

1001
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: both Georgia and Florida really really rising in the SEC East.

1002
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: You've got Tennessee who is largely stagnated. The Jeremy Prue

1003
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: thing did not work out well and did on a

1004
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: moment's notice. And like I said, maybe there's some sanctioned situation.

1005
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: Who knows, And we don't have the track record with

1006
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: hypel He's done well when he stepped in, like he

1007
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: took over for Scott Frost. It did fine at UCF

1008
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: scored a thousand points a game. Great Tennessee fans would

1009
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: jump up and down for that. They would love that.

1010
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: But beyond that, beyond the offensive firepower, has he built

1011
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: a program, has he reeled in like that top level

1012
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: elite talent that you know Tennessee is gonna need to

1013
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: compete in the SEC East.

1014
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: Not that I'm aware of.

1015
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: Maybe it'll be, but I feel slightly negative on Hypol

1016
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: If I'm.

1017
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: Being honest, my answer is Brian Harson, Okay, culturally because

1018
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: of the cultural fit or no. I think if you

1019
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: can coach, you can coach that's been proven. You can

1020
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: even hire coaches, you can hire a staff that like

1021
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think if you relate to players,

1022
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: if you're able to hit the recruiting trail hard if

1023
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: you're able to hire really well, which I think that

1024
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: Derek Mason hire at defensive coordinators good. I don't know

1025
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: how long he'll be there. I'm not I don't think

1026
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm in love with the Mike Bobo hire on offense

1027
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: and recruiting hasn't been amazing. I think they have the

1028
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: worst I just clicked this right now. Looks like they

1029
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: have the current worst class in the SEC. It's going

1030
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: to take time. Obviously, year one or year zero or whatever.

1031
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: You can't fully hold that against the head coach when

1032
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: you don't have time to build those relationships at the

1033
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: bar that exists at Auburn.

1034
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: I know, I thought about Harrison. I thought about going

1035
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: Harrison with this.

1036
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: I just, for whatever reason, it leaves me a little.

1037
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, whether it's the recruiting thing early on,

1038
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: whether it's the hires overall, whether it's the quarterback situation

1039
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: that he has to work with that I just, I mean,

1040
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: we talk about sample size. I think we know who

1041
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: Bonnicks is thrilled to be wrong about it, but I

1042
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: think we know right, and so I just I think

1043
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: the expectations are so outlandish as it relates to the

1044
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: reality right now. And there's a lot to love about

1045
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: the Auburn roster, but for whatever reason, I'm just left

1046
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: wanting for more.

1047
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: When Texas had an opening, there were a number of

1048
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: names that were mentioned in relation to that job that

1049
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: got the juices flowing. I don't feel like that was

1050
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: the case with Auburn, and I'm not trying to imply

1051
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: that's the same in effect, but yeah, right, And I'm

1052
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: not trying to imply that Auburn should not have moved

1053
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: on from Gus Melson. I think Gus Melson probably they

1054
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: should have parted ways mutually a while ago. But wow,

1055
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: when the Auburn job came open, I remember at one

1056
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: point saying to you, they go a bunch of different

1057
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: directions here, and I'm not hearing that many candidates that

1058
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: if I were an Auburn fan, make me all that excited.

1059
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: Brian Harson's a very good coach, and if they're looking

1060
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: to introduce some stability into the Auburn program instead of

1061
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: this yearly Whip saw that they've been on. Harson's done that.

1062
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: He's done that at Boise State, different set of circumstances,

1063
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: but has definitely done that. He just doesn't give me

1064
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: the same juice as you know, a sexy higher like

1065
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: a Dearkeesian. You know, it's it did leave a lot

1066
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: of us very underwhelmed.

1067
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: Well, Steve Sarkishan has not had a crazy amount of

1068
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: success as a head coach. No, also true, he is

1069
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: also laundered. He laundered his reputation as a coach at Alabama.

1070
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: He got sober, he was able to just focus on

1071
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: football and calling plays, and obviously he recruited at Alabama.

1072
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: But there's this element of he helmed the greatest scoring

1073
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: offense of all time, didn't necessarily assemble, it didn't necessarily

1074
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: run practice and sort of improve things incrementally over the

1075
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: course of every day in the off season for four

1076
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: straight off Like, it's not his it's not the job

1077
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: that he did in Tuscaloosa. So it's sexy in that

1078
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: he came from a sexy place. I think there's a

1079
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: Rihanna song about that. But I see what you're saying.

1080
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: But if he's just in a number of ways, is

1081
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: a very good coach, it was the beneficiary of something excellent.

1082
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: So right, Okay, I wonder just because at least Brian

1083
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: Harson and Josh Hipel, they've succeeded as head coaches. They have.

1084
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think UCF's twenty twenty was disappointing, but

1085
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: the best of UCF under Josh Hipel was very dangerous.

1086
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks developed. So okay, we'll see. I don't know how

1087
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: would you feel if Josh Hipel were at Auburn. I

1088
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just not a hypel guy. That's fine,

1089
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: just not never been. Okay, I don't know. There's someone

1090
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: about Harsonmer's like okay, like it just it doesn't, it doesn't.

1091
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: You don't need to win me over. I'm irrelevant. You

1092
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: don't need to win a press conference. You don't need

1093
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: to be the sexiest higher that wins like the message

1094
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: boards week one. But I don't know. I just I've

1095
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: thought about Auburn so much less this offseason than I

1096
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: have a decade at least, and that worries me. Off

1097
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: topic questions. We're over an hour.

1098
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: Let's go like this as snappy as we can, but

1099
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: we have two very important questions here.

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01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: I think to close out Dan, I don't know if

1101
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: I fully understand yours, but I'm ready to try. It's

1102
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: the year twenty seventy two. Okay, you are being recruited

1103
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: by a number of top programs. Let's say you're a

1104
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: quarterback recruit out of suburban Chicago. But now the way

1105
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: that the NCAA has gone, new rules state that schools

1106
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: cannot offer scholarships at all. They're gone. All they can

1107
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: offer are unlimited supplies of snack foods. Okay, which snack

1108
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: foods would present the most compelling case for you to

1109
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: leave the cozy confines of your suburban Chicago neighborhood go

1110
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: to a terrible location like southern California or Texas or

1111
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere that's a lot warmer. What snack foods,

1112
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: if you had in an unlimited supply, would be enough

1113
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: to sway you to go to a particular program. So

1114
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: by snack food you mean like some sort of prepackage

1115
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: like chip or candy or something like that.

1116
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: I am preferably looking for something that is, yes, not natural,

1117
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: does not exist in the universe naturally, So you can't

1118
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: say something like black olives.

1119
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: And there's just while my official visit, there's a crate

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01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: waiting for me and be like, oh man, how can

1121
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: I turn down? Coming? Here? Are we going like.

1122
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: White cheddar popcorn? Are we going sourdough, Pretzels, Mars bars, Skittles?

1123
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: Like what if you had in an unlimited supply Dorito's.

1124
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: So is your question basically just like what snack would

1125
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: you get sick of the least if you had to

1126
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: eat a lot of it? In effect, the answer is yes, okay.

1127
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: So it has to be like I couldn't select like

1128
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: an orange no, no, no, has to be something that does

1129
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: not notuly occur in the universe and you know, is

1130
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: unhealthy to consuming mass quantities. Sure, probably something that has

1131
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of sweetness, isn't crazy filling, not too sweet,

1132
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: not too heavy. Man, The most boring but realistic answer

1133
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: I could come up with is like kettle corn, kettle corn,

1134
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't just like if I selected like a

1135
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,959
Speaker 1: Snickers bar, or if I selected Dorito's Nacho Cheesier, which

1136
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: at one point it was called nacho cheese it was

1137
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: it was at one point. Yeah, yeah, there's a really

1138
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: funny under understood episode about it. If yeah, I just

1139
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: I dole corn. I can't see myself being so impressed

1140
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: by like Hershey's miniatures, Like that's just gonna it's not

1141
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: gonna feel good after a week. After three days, kettle

1142
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: corn is light enough. It's the salty and sweet at

1143
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: the same time. I'd be like, all right, it'd be

1144
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: fun to jump into a pool of cattle corn. That's

1145
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: my answer. Okay, what's your answer. You've obviously given this thought.

1146
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: Not really, I was just thinking of it from your perspective,

1147
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: because we don't talk a lot about snack foods on

1148
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: the show. You know, we're college football show, pizza show, sometimes,

1149
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: tailgating show other times. But what would it take for

1150
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: you to seduce Charlie Starren sometimes RW Snack foods, though,

1151
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 2: is a new frontier that I'd like to explore more

1152
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: with you in coming episode.

1153
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: I have lots of snack thoughts. We're gonna explore those.

1154
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: We can do an episode about snacks, and we can

1155
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: do an off topic episode called snack Shin or something

1156
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: like that for the rebollers.

1157
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, I don't know. I don't know either

1158
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: exactly what counts here. You know, everyone's got their own

1159
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 2: relative measure for what's a snack food and what could

1160
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 2: wear a cattle corn necklace. I have a thing for

1161
01:04:54,600 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: a very specific brand of sourdough pretzels. Okay about answer,

1162
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: because you could dip them.

1163
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1164
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: I accidentally bought honey mustard instead of yellow mustard this

1165
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: weekend for a little bit of a cookout scenario I

1166
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: had here and I just about put down a whole

1167
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: bag of these guys dipping it in.

1168
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: They do really well. Yeah, pretzels and honey mustard are

1169
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: winning combo.

1170
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so right now, the answer du jour would be

1171
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: the soured O pretzels, which.

1172
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: A brand sponsorship from. I have to look up the brand.

1173
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to name dropping here on the show.

1174
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: They do offer one of those subscription bits out on Amazon,

1175
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, if you just want to get sent to

1176
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: your door every week, every whatever.

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01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: They do that. But I'll get more info for you

1178
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: in case you're interested.

1179
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,919
Speaker 1: My question to you, Ty, you and I both live

1180
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 1: a relatively sedentary professional life. Right. We sit in front

1181
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: we sit in front of screens, We type away at

1182
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: our keyboards. We're on zoom calls or you know, cameras

1183
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: and microphone. Like, it's sedentary. We sit. Sometimes we stand

1184
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: while we're doing it, but we're not moving around, we're

1185
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: not getting our hands dirty, we're not on our feet

1186
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: all day yeah. So my question to you is, if

1187
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: we were offered each of us a six month sabbatical

1188
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: to do something with our hands, to do something on

1189
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: our feet, to do something where we're physically creating something, right,

1190
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: it could be construction, it could be cooking, it could

1191
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: be a teacher. Right, you could be teaching English or

1192
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: something like that. You get this six month sabbatical, and

1193
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: at the end of your six months sabbatical, your manager

1194
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: reviews you, and if you get an excellent review in

1195
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: this new pursuit of yours during the six month digital sabbatical,

1196
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: you get five hundred thousand dollars as a bonus. Okay,

1197
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: what on your feet with your hands? Non digital no

1198
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: no phones, no computers, no, nothing of that kind of story.

1199
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: And I'll count teaching because I'm talking about what you

1200
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: and I believe to be teaching or understand to be teaching.

1201
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: I know there's iPads all that stuff now, but I'm

1202
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: talking about in front of a chalkboard, reading the iliad whatever,

1203
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: something like that iliad like nineteen ninety one Robin Williams teaching.

1204
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. So I could say little

1205
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: league baseball coach. I don't think you can make a

1206
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: living as a little league baseball coach. Okay, you could

1207
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: say high school baseball coach slash like geometry teacher, something

1208
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: like that. I don't do geometry, you know that. Okay, Well,

1209
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 1: I'm if you're going to say baseball coach. What about

1210
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: a private baseball coach, like a tutor? They offer those

1211
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: you can get private. Do you think as a private

1212
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: baseball coach? After six months? Six months? Your manager running

1213
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: this like operation, this academy. But what was the Fred

1214
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: McGriff one called Tommy Mansky, tom Amansky? You're Taiamanski? Sure?

1215
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: After six months? Whoever is bankrolling you wherever is like, damn,

1216
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: You're getting results. The parents love you, kids love you

1217
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: like you are just an app. Like you are an

1218
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: absolute success story. I'm a player, your answer, I'm a

1219
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: player's coach. I don't think that's the answer. I have

1220
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: a couple of other options here that week. All right,

1221
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: So you're not You're not. This is not a tough

1222
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: love situation. You're not suddenly getting like amazing sliders out

1223
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 1: of fifteen year olds. No, exactly.

1224
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: Okay, but along the same lines, I think I could

1225
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 2: be a very effective sign stealer for the Houston astros.

1226
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: That's not okay. Let's let's come up with like an

1227
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: actual occupation that you'd be able to like write on

1228
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: your taxes.

1229
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I would also be a very good obolet chef,

1230
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: an egg chef at a local eatery or hotel.

1231
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, this is a good answer. So you

1232
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: take your sabbatical and you go like you're working out

1233
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: like a diner, like a place that specializes in breakfast.

1234
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: I gotta wear the big hat though. I want.

1235
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 2: I want people to respect the fact that I am

1236
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: the But you want a chef's hat.

1237
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: I want a chef's hat. Yeah. I do make omelets

1238
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: in a diner. I do, Okay, I do. It adds

1239
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: to the allure. I'm trying to get five hundred large

1240
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: out of this. So okay, So you are a good

1241
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: amateur omelet chef, correct, you would not? You feel good

1242
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: about yourself under pressure orders. It's hot, it's sweaty, somebody

1243
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: wants no mushroom, somebody wants extra mushrooms. You think you

1244
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: have the temperament, You think you have the skill. I

1245
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: do you think you have for that? For that sort

1246
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: of stressful position, I need the hat, though. I want

1247
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,839
Speaker 1: the hat is part of the persona. I need the hat, Okay, okay.

1248
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: Omelet chef chef, I okay. So you could probably be

1249
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: an omelet chef at like a hotel or on a

1250
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: cruise or something, but I don't think it's that specialized

1251
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: in a diner, like I think you're going to be

1252
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: needing to make pancakes, and I think you're gonna be

1253
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, you're making hash browns, you're making omelets. Sure

1254
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: you asked the question, I gave you the answer. I'm

1255
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: an egg chef and I'm hellery or hotel full stop.

1256
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: I don't make pancakes, I don't make waffles. I'm a

1257
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 1: lefty specialist. I am Reale Cormier coming out of the bullpin.

1258
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm two outs, just seventh inning. Just get one strikeout,

1259
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: one ground ball, and then go back to the dugout.

1260
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: That is who I am here. I'm just telling you

1261
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: the reality is, if you're working for the Four Seasons,

1262
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: if you're working for you know, the Continent Continental Renaissance,

1263
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: you're working for the Ritz or whatever, and you're making

1264
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: omelets in the morning, you're probably tending bar later. We

1265
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: did this.

1266
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: This was not a reality based question, Dan, It is

1267
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: a reality based question. It absolutely is. Some of the

1268
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: other ones I had here. I have professional birdwatcher. Does

1269
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: that count?

1270
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: No, this is not a job. Okay, you want to

1271
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: become like an ornithology student, like you have to like

1272
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: train for a lot of like skilled jobs. What about

1273
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: a ballpicker at a local driving range. You can do that.

1274
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what you would do to differentiate yourself

1275
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: from other ballpickers. You get all the balls bonus. I

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Speaker 1: guess it seems bare minimum. Well, you were asking the question.

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Speaker 1: I know not. We did not put lines around this

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Speaker 1: that it needed to be reality based. But listen, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like my best option here is the egg cooker.

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't exist as a job. It does now,

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Speaker 2: this is my answer, local eatery or hotel. So you're

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Speaker 2: you're you're envisioning a world in which there is a cook,

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Speaker 2: a short order cook, whipping up everything. And anytime there's

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Speaker 2: an omelind order, he's like tapping his right shoulder, like

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Speaker 2: bringing into relievers.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, all right, you're living in reality. I

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Speaker 1: just I think you would be great, Like I think

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Speaker 1: if you're able to make a good omeland, I think

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Speaker 1: hash browns and pancakes. That's no. So you can do

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Speaker 1: hash browns. I can do hash browns. You're not filling

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Speaker 1: like you are with an omelet. You're not filling and

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Speaker 1: folding in the same way.

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Speaker 2: If if we need to be proper with this to

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Speaker 2: storm conform to Dan Rubinstein's reality, this is just earth,

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Speaker 2: then I'll say I'll say, breakfast chef.

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Speaker 1: Is that a thing? A breakfast chef, Well, chefs go

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Speaker 1: to culinary school, but yeah, a breakfast short order cook. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll say that. I could see it. You're up early

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Speaker 1: or an early riser anyway, so that issue won't come

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Speaker 1: to bear. You're a people person, so I think people

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Speaker 1: would forgive you if you mess up an order here

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Speaker 1: and there, and you would get along with people at

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Speaker 1: the bar, the regulars. You come from a particularly diner

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Speaker 1: heavy part of the world, so it's you're familiar with

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Speaker 1: the culture. I just I don't know how greasy I

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Speaker 1: see you. That's not my issue. I think you're a

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Speaker 1: bit of a pretty boy. Oh wow, that first cuts

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Speaker 1: the deepest.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, Yeah, all right. Well, as I like to say,

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Speaker 2: fun show.

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Speaker 1: I would teach tennis or make I would work at

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Speaker 1: a bakery, teach ten sourdough or something.

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Speaker 2: I was working at a bakery, different from picking up

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Speaker 2: balls at the driving range.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying I would bake. I would. I would be

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Speaker 1: somebody who works in a bakery. I would be somebody

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Speaker 1: who shows up early in the morning. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you. A ball picker is a job. A

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Speaker 1: ball picker is a job. But it's hard to differentiate.

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Speaker 1: You can differentiate yourself as a baker pretty easily. Your

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Speaker 1: your your craft is either good or it's not. Double standards.

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Speaker 1: Once more on the solid right, It's okay, it's okay,

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Speaker 1: it's fine. Are there awards for golf ball driving range

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Speaker 1: picker uppers?

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Speaker 2: I will have to get back to you on that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I really, I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I could be a caddy. I used to be a caddy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what differentiates you? I mean, you're cracking wise, just constant

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Speaker 1: your I'm a good green reader. I can't put for crap,

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Speaker 1: but I can read Pussay, yeah, okay, that counts. So

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Speaker 1: you'd be a professional caddy. You'd be It's a terrible job.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to unless you're like really and you

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Speaker 1: can shoulder. Yeah, you don't. You don't want to be

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Speaker 1: a professional kid. I know people who are professional caddies.

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Speaker 1: You don't want that job anyway. Okay, interesting show. Let's

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Speaker 1: say trying to think about how you would like what

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Speaker 1: where could you thrive? I told you I could plumbing?

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Speaker 1: What about plumber? No? No, I don't want that job.

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Speaker 1: You don't want your hands dirty like that. No.

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Speaker 2: I respect the hell out of people who are very

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Speaker 2: good at plumbing. I would not be good in that capacity.

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Speaker 1: No sort of teacher construction of any kind. I would

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Speaker 1: be a good teacher. I could you run a shop

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Speaker 1: of some kind? Maybe the temperament to do the books

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Speaker 1: and interact with the public and deal with inventory.

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Speaker 2: Is like this is like the the Seinfeld episode where

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Speaker 2: George Costanza is pondering his life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lots. I'm always there are times ty where I

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Speaker 1: think to myself, it would be nice to just to

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Speaker 1: work with dough and then listen to podcasts and like,

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Speaker 1: have that be my zen career? No?

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Speaker 2: All right, well, look right in Yeah solverbootgmail dot com,

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Speaker 2: follow us on social media.

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Speaker 1: We will be posting more.

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Speaker 2: Fun tidbits about this episode. Yes, starting Tuesday. Yeah, show

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Speaker 2: drops six am Eastern, So please do listen, please give

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Speaker 2: us a holler, and please do check out for ballers

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Speaker 2: dot com for all info chef omelets as it relates

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Speaker 2: to our patreon, Dan, so I got.

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Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, no, the Patreon's great. We've got a whole

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Speaker 1: like we are resetting everything in like a very fun

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Speaker 1: way for the season, a lot of new stuff coming there.

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Speaker 1: We've got a couple of fun new episodes coming up

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Speaker 1: here that we're like pre recording with guests and scheme stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's really fun. So a lot of excitement. We're starting

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Speaker 1: previews and not a terribly long time, no, like a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yeah, Oh I'm excited. And can I

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Speaker 1: be super duper mysterious and vague for a moment if

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Speaker 1: you'd like to. We have an off topic show that

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Speaker 1: will be available to verbalers. What's today's date that we're

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Speaker 1: recording this on June twenty eighth, July the sixteenth, July

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Speaker 1: the sixteenth, we will have an off topic show available

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Speaker 1: only two verbalers who are our subscribers on Patreon. That

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Speaker 1: is a long like how long we've been doing the show?

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight, two thousand and eight, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would say it's two thousand and eight, like a long

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Speaker 1: time coming at two thousand and eight, since and coming.

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Speaker 1: This is I hesitate to use big adjectives, mostly because

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they all mean. But this is

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Speaker 1: a show that is a long, long, long time coming.

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Speaker 2: It is in our little universe, a very big deal.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be if you have listened to me,

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Speaker 1: and you have listened to Tie for a long time, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this will be a show of particular importance to you.

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Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. Did I say all of those

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Speaker 1: things accurately and mysteriously? I think you did. Okay, okay

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Speaker 1: for ballers dot Com, for Ballers dot Com, just taking

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Speaker 1: the information and make your own decision. A long time coming,

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Speaker 1: more to come, more to come. Yes, that guy over there,

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Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand. We

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Speaker 1: will talk to you all soon. In the meantime, as always,

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening and stay solid peace.