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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and Newey scrugs.
Speaker 1: All right, it's Friday. You know what time it is.
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Speaker 1: homes doing the show from our respective spots. I'm new
Speaker 1: He scrugs, longtime Cowboys reporter, joined by two former players
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, Danny McCray and Barry Church. Church. You
Speaker 1: know you haven't told Danny and I if you've gone
Speaker 1: back to Oklahoma anytime sooner. You've just been camping out
Speaker 1: here in Texas. Man. Yeah, I'm sad to say I
Speaker 1: have not been back to Oklahoma. You know, broken Boat.
Speaker 1: It was a great experience while we were out there.
Speaker 1: I just says, heat, man is. Heat is just getting
Speaker 1: to me. Man, It's making me want to stay in
Speaker 1: this act and chat with y'all all day. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to travel as much as I
Speaker 1: like to. All Right, all right, So McCrae, my man,
Speaker 1: I love people who want to talk about the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl because the reason I love it is because when
Speaker 1: they bring it up, when they talk about the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I always shooting down because I'm like, hey, look it's
Speaker 1: been a minute. It's been a minute, okay. And I'm
Speaker 1: one of those Danny that believes just go out win
Speaker 1: your division and just keep on winning games, and then
Speaker 1: you know, if you end up there, you end up there. Well,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was asked about that at his press conference today.
Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to what Mike
Speaker 1: had to say about the Super Bowl. Danny. I want
Speaker 1: to hear you comment on it, and Barry, I want
Speaker 1: to get your thought to next. So let's hear from
Speaker 1: new Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy. I think conversation like that, frankly, respectfully,
Speaker 1: is nonsense. If you're not trying to win the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to what you're even doing in
Speaker 1: this business. I think that's what every team UM starts
Speaker 1: their off season with. UM. The ones that don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about it, they're you know, they're you know,
Speaker 1: they're just probably trying to you know, what's under promise,
Speaker 1: under promise, over overachieved but from the capital. I've always
Speaker 1: been very upfront about it. Every team I've ever coached.
Speaker 1: You know, we're in this to win a championship, make
Speaker 1: no bones about it. Uh, the schedule is is what
Speaker 1: it is. I'm a big fanas statement, but we're all
Speaker 1: in a pandemic, all right. So that's Mike McCarthy. He
Speaker 1: doesn't mind talking about Super Bowl expectations because he believes
Speaker 1: that's why you're here. You're in the building to win
Speaker 1: a championship. So Danny your thoughts. Yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: was it was a good answer. I mean, he didn't
Speaker 1: he didn't push all the chips in and say that
Speaker 1: that make any guarantees and say that we're definitely going
Speaker 1: to win the championship. But he knows why why he's here.
Speaker 1: He was sitting on the sidelines figuring out ways to
Speaker 1: come up with a better offense and a better scheme
Speaker 1: so he can win another Super Bowl. And Jared saw that,
Speaker 1: and Jared said, Hey, I'm bringing you in here specifically
Speaker 1: for this reason. I told everyone that I will pay
Speaker 1: anything for a Super Bowl. So when you come in here,
Speaker 1: I want you to let everybody know this is the goal.
Speaker 1: So I think it was a perfect answer, and that's
Speaker 1: what we're all expecting out of the Cowboys. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: we all know, we all know when you you know,
Speaker 1: you come coach for America's team and the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: what the expectation is. The expectation is to get to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, make super Bowl runs, plural super Bowl runs,
Speaker 1: and I get to the playoffs at win divisions. But
Speaker 1: we've all seen what happens when you count your chips
Speaker 1: or you count you count your wins before you actually
Speaker 1: went out there and got him. I mean the past
Speaker 1: three four years, we've all been super Bowl champions on
Speaker 1: paper and we've seen that come to folition none at all.
Speaker 1: So I think you can get in a little bit
Speaker 1: of trouble when you're already talking about you had the
Speaker 1: goal to win a championship, and he should have started off.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, the goals to win games, win
Speaker 1: the division, win some playoffs, and then they you get
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. Because we all know what the
Speaker 1: expectation is when you come here is to win super Bowls.
Speaker 1: But you can't put all your eggs in the basket
Speaker 1: at once. I mean, this team is just getting together
Speaker 1: for the first time all year, and so I just think,
Speaker 1: you know, talking about Super Bowl this early in the season.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gotten in trouble in the past before.
Speaker 1: As don't see want us to repeat what happened again
Speaker 1: last year. Church. I want to stay with you because
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, you're playing on a team that went to
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game. How to lead in the second
Speaker 1: half against the Patriots. You don't win that game, and
Speaker 1: then the next year there are a lot of people saying,
Speaker 1: this year Jacksonville steps through, they go win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It did not happen, in fact, that jacks fell apart.
Speaker 1: So you tell me what is that like from the
Speaker 1: standpoint of having everyone talk about it to kind of
Speaker 1: sneak it up on some folks. Well, I mean, like
Speaker 1: you said, I mean I've witnessed it and I've been
Speaker 1: a part of it firsthand. I mean, like you said,
Speaker 1: winning in twenty seventeen year we went to the a
Speaker 1: FC Championship, we had the number one defense in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean, we were all coming back that next year,
Speaker 1: so we felt like we already had it in the bag.
Speaker 1: I mean we felt like we can destroy this division
Speaker 1: and we'll end up meeting the Patriots to get into
Speaker 1: playoffs and they got lucky and we'll destroy them. So
Speaker 1: we already kind of thought, you know, we had this
Speaker 1: season in the bag, and we started out pretty well.
Speaker 1: I think we went, you know, three and one in
Speaker 1: the first and then we met the Cowboys. I think
Speaker 1: we were three and three at the time, and they
Speaker 1: blew the hinges off of us, and we never were
Speaker 1: able to kind of kind of get back to what
Speaker 1: we wanted to be that season. So the expectations for
Speaker 1: us were high, and I felt like we were kind
Speaker 1: of feeling ourselves going into that season, and it wrecked
Speaker 1: our season. I mean, and it started at the top
Speaker 1: the leadership, myself, you know, Calais, all those guys at
Speaker 1: the time, we kind of you know, felt ourselves. We
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, we had a great defense and
Speaker 1: we could take over this league like we did last year.
Speaker 1: And you gotta change each and you gotta evolve each
Speaker 1: and every year. So hopefully the Cowboys were able to
Speaker 1: do that. They're able to evolve from that from what
Speaker 1: they did last year and make some little quick, tweak
Speaker 1: changes to the offense and defense because people were gonna
Speaker 1: pick up on what they did last year. Especially these
Speaker 1: defense and offensive coordinators, they watch film like everybody else,
Speaker 1: so they'll be able to pick apart what the strength
Speaker 1: of weaknesses are. So you just gotta change up a
Speaker 1: little bit. But I'm you know, I'm excited to see
Speaker 1: what McCarthy has in store for us this year. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go from super Bowl talk here on the players
Speaker 1: lounge talking about the one thing that you have to
Speaker 1: have if you're going to be a super Bowl team,
Speaker 1: and that's some defense. Here. The Cowboys have won five championships,
Speaker 1: and when you look at the five championship teams, defense
Speaker 1: has been a big part of why they were able
Speaker 1: to get there. I was excited about Gerald McCoy being
Speaker 1: a part of the Cowboys defensive line, of defensive tackle
Speaker 1: getting bigger. Gerald McCoy this week ends up tearing his quad.
Speaker 1: They cut him. He's not on the team anymore. So
Speaker 1: just that whole trying to fill it. Danny, you start
Speaker 1: with this here, what's your concern? My concern is the
Speaker 1: same as it's ben for for all the teams and
Speaker 1: especially us without having a true season and having to
Speaker 1: worry about guys going down like this. I've seen the
Speaker 1: video of it, and it was just a you know,
Speaker 1: just a normal play of normal drill that they were
Speaker 1: going through and he goes down and you're you know,
Speaker 1: and you and your first thought is this is what
Speaker 1: we're talking about, right, those soft tissue injuries for guys
Speaker 1: who haven't been able to get into that real football shape.
Speaker 1: These things that happened. So for us, I just think
Speaker 1: that we need to make sure that we have some depth.
Speaker 1: So good thing we have Poe, we have Crawford, but
Speaker 1: I don't think we can sustain many more of these injuries.
Speaker 1: So we just need to make sure that we're able
Speaker 1: to stay healthy because we expect the big things out
Speaker 1: of McCoy and now he is a big hold of fields.
Speaker 1: So some of those young guys like Tristan Hill they said,
Speaker 1: are having good practices. He's gonna have to step up
Speaker 1: in real game time and make some big time play. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I believe that McCoy injury was hurt to the depth
Speaker 1: more than anything. With the Cowboys, we know defensively, offensively
Speaker 1: as well, they're talented and mentally across the board. So
Speaker 1: when you lose a guy like McCoy, that hurts your death.
Speaker 1: Because he was supposed to be out to go out
Speaker 1: there and be a starter, and not only a starter,
Speaker 1: but a leader out there for this defense. Um, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of young parts to this defense and just
Speaker 1: having a guy like that that can lead your defense
Speaker 1: into valliation every Sunday would have been amazing. M So
Speaker 1: for him going down that way, it's just gonna have
Speaker 1: to force, like McCray said, it's gonna have to force
Speaker 1: younger guys like Tristan Hill to step up. And last year,
Speaker 1: we know he was in the doghouse. Mary Ellie didn't
Speaker 1: really want to play him that much. But hopefully he's able,
Speaker 1: he's able to mature a little bit more and grow
Speaker 1: a little bit more in this offseason and he'll be
Speaker 1: able to step up in McCoy's absence because the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna need that. I mean, they're gonna need him
Speaker 1: to step up hopefully. I mean, the reports of all
Speaker 1: the smith out there are off the charts, so hopefully
Speaker 1: he can step up as well. But if you if
Speaker 1: you can generate a great pass rush and you can
Speaker 1: stop the run with that front four, I mean, it
Speaker 1: makes a job so much easier for the secondary and
Speaker 1: the rest of the defense. So we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: have someone step up in the place for McCoy, and
Speaker 1: I believe that's gonna have to be Tristan Hill, so
Speaker 1: hopefully he's up for the task. Okay, let's this is
Speaker 1: why you two guys. I love having you on the show.
Speaker 1: I love to because you've been in the locker room.
Speaker 1: You understand exactly what has to happen. So I don't
Speaker 1: start with you on this one. Danny who gets to
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill to talk to him about how he is
Speaker 1: needed that. You know the reports last year he fell
Speaker 1: asleep when they had guest speaker Isaiah Thomas come around
Speaker 1: that he was in that dog house with Rod Marinelli,
Speaker 1: that he wasn't taking football as seriously as they needed
Speaker 1: him to be. Who's the person in the room or
Speaker 1: persons who talk to him and let him know, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta grow up. We need you now. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you this, man, I'm I'm gonna give I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: him a little slack for last year because he went
Speaker 1: through some of those normal rookie things that I've seen
Speaker 1: a lot of rookie guys go through. In that first year.
Speaker 1: It's a whole different playing field. You got a lot
Speaker 1: of money. There's a lot of stuff on. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: you finally reach celebrity status right in the town like Dallas,
Speaker 1: so it's easy to get lost in that. I think
Speaker 1: he was able to refocus himself and the things I'm
Speaker 1: hearing about him so far have been great. And I
Speaker 1: think having Tyron Crawford in there in that in that
Speaker 1: room is a big thing because I think they missed
Speaker 1: his leadership last year when he was hurt, and I
Speaker 1: think he's bringing that to Tristan Hill this year, and
Speaker 1: I think you'll see a great improvement from him just
Speaker 1: by having Crawford around. Yeah, they're gonna need a great
Speaker 1: improvement from Tristan Hill. I mean, like you said, last year,
Speaker 1: he was going through those you know, rookie struggles a
Speaker 1: little bit here and there. But guys like Crawford, guys
Speaker 1: like Sean Lee, guys like you know, DeMarcus Lawrence, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to get in this guy's ear and they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to show him how to be a professional.
Speaker 1: I mean falling asleep in meetings, like mccraie said, We've
Speaker 1: seen that in the past. But it's it's your turn
Speaker 1: to step up and be that focal point or that
Speaker 1: be that you know kind of focal point. Like I said,
Speaker 1: on the defensive line, you're gonna have to generate pressure
Speaker 1: and production that was lost from McCoy. So hopefully those
Speaker 1: veteran guys in the locker room can get with him,
Speaker 1: show him how to break down tape, show him how
Speaker 1: to be more professional when it comes to playing in
Speaker 1: this league, because if not, you'll be out of this
Speaker 1: league quick. I mean, you know it stands for NFL,
Speaker 1: not for long. So hopefully those guys can you know,
Speaker 1: get in his ear, get him going in the right direction.
Speaker 1: And so far this camp, we've heard some good reports
Speaker 1: about what he's been able to do. So hopefully that
Speaker 1: can keep going. And because they're not gonna need him,
Speaker 1: they're gonna need that depth piece for this defensive line.
Speaker 1: And look at it. I'll tell you this, the reports
Speaker 1: coming out about him are much better than reports that
Speaker 1: that came out about Taco. So I got some faith.
Speaker 1: I got some faith in Tristan to making them prove
Speaker 1: it this year because that they not for the longest
Speaker 1: true man church. They got him about his send him
Speaker 1: to Miami Man. They got him quick first round first
Speaker 1: rounder as well, if you if you don't produce what
Speaker 1: a new coach is there, yeah, you're not safe. So
Speaker 1: I think I think he's woke, and I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get some stuff done because he
Speaker 1: has a perfect example of what happened if he doesn't.
Speaker 1: And then Miami got rid of Taco Charlton. He's now
Speaker 1: out there in Kansas City. And for me, when I
Speaker 1: look at Tristan Hill, I think of just here's an opportunity.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a job that you can have
Speaker 1: and be a part of a defense here that if
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin and Olden Smith and Tank Lords are the
Speaker 1: players we think they can be and have the kind
Speaker 1: of seasons we do, Triston Hill's gonna have an excellent
Speaker 1: opportunity to make a name for himself. And you guys know,
Speaker 1: if you can get in this league, if you can
Speaker 1: put some pressure on the quarterback, they'll write you a really, really,
Speaker 1: really big check. So hopefully he can see that working
Speaker 1: with Jim tom Sula, maybe that'll change will be better
Speaker 1: for him. He's still gonna be working with Leon Let,
Speaker 1: but there's an opportunity for this young man can make
Speaker 1: some good money in the National Football League. So it's
Speaker 1: a great opportunity. I mean, like you said, with all
Speaker 1: those guys on the defensive line, I'm pretty I'm ninety
Speaker 1: percent confident that teams aren't going to be out there
Speaker 1: trying to double Triston Hill. So if he's able to
Speaker 1: go out there and defeat one on one blocks consistently,
Speaker 1: like you said, he can make a name for himself
Speaker 1: in this game. But he's gonna have to put the
Speaker 1: work in and hopefully he's been doing it this offseason
Speaker 1: and so far this camp, it sounds like he's been
Speaker 1: doing him all right. Danny wanted to get into this
Speaker 1: one with you being because you guys are both dbs.
Speaker 1: But but Cheeto Awosier spoke about that Cowboys scheme now
Speaker 1: under Mike Nolan, and the thing that I keep getting
Speaker 1: from players like Cheeto is man, this is a welcome
Speaker 1: change and we're not going to be predictable. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's huge. Like we talked about last week,
Speaker 1: just to put this into perspective, if you're playing a
Speaker 1: guy like Tom Brady and you line up in the
Speaker 1: Cover two shell and then you play Cover two, it's
Speaker 1: an issue. If you line up in the cover two
Speaker 1: shell and you just always drop down to cover three.
Speaker 1: He knows that it's an issue. He's going to find
Speaker 1: a weakness. So you have to be able to disguise
Speaker 1: presnap and post snap. So with Nolan being able to
Speaker 1: do that, these guys are feel more confident that the quarterback,
Speaker 1: especially the smart ones in the veteran was they don't
Speaker 1: already know what defense you're in and know where they
Speaker 1: should go with the ball, right, they want to make
Speaker 1: them think that the extra extra half a second longer
Speaker 1: so that defensive line to have a chance to get
Speaker 1: there and make that sack so they can get those
Speaker 1: tips and overthrows. So I think it's huge and it's
Speaker 1: gonna give the dv is a lot of confidence because
Speaker 1: they know that that that that pass rush will have
Speaker 1: a little bit more time to get there just based
Speaker 1: off their pre and posting that disguises. Yeah, disguise will
Speaker 1: be huge coming up for this season. I mean, no
Speaker 1: no disrespect or anything to coach Marinelli in his system,
Speaker 1: but I believe it was kind of vanilla when it
Speaker 1: comes when it came to disguising. I mean everything was
Speaker 1: pretty much out of that two shell. Now it can
Speaker 1: work against you know, younger quarterbacks and quarterbacks who haven't
Speaker 1: really seen that much defense. But when you're going against
Speaker 1: the you know, the Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady's of
Speaker 1: the world will pretty much dissect that defense because they
Speaker 1: know pretty much one of the safeties are gonna come
Speaker 1: down into the box. So, UM, disguising your defenses um
Speaker 1: pre snap can basically that you're you're winning half of
Speaker 1: the battle if you can get your quarterback to not
Speaker 1: know what defense is in pre snap. So Chito was
Speaker 1: right about that having multiple looks and multiple schemes will
Speaker 1: help this defensive lot and the prayer. You were also
Speaker 1: right when it comes to the defensive line. If if
Speaker 1: they're not producing and be one on one blocks like
Speaker 1: we think they will be able to this season. Um,
Speaker 1: this guy that defense and having that quarterback just hold
Speaker 1: the ball of extra tick, just hold the ball at
Speaker 1: extra second, make him pat and make him look around
Speaker 1: through all his reads. Giving that defensive line extra time
Speaker 1: to come in there and create havoc, which we know
Speaker 1: they can will be huge for this defense. So going forward,
Speaker 1: if they can keep this disguise, going to keep this
Speaker 1: multiple defensive looks going to confuse quarterbacks giving their secondary
Speaker 1: more time back there, or giving their defensive line more
Speaker 1: time to get to the backfield. It will be immensely
Speaker 1: huged for this defense, and we'll see what happens when
Speaker 1: the season creates around Barry. It's no disrespect to Rob Merriley.
Speaker 1: This is just the truth. Guys knew what was coming.
Speaker 1: And the Jet game, to me, was the biggest indictment
Speaker 1: on why this defense needed to change, because Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: had been out a month with Mono and the Jets
Speaker 1: were just going in different quarterbacks and they had problems.
Speaker 1: They here comes Sam one month out and steps onto
Speaker 1: the field that MetLife Stadium against the Cowboys and had
Speaker 1: a fantastic game. And then after said, well it's the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We kind of know what they do, which in his
Speaker 1: way was dude, it wasn't hard. We figured it out.
Speaker 1: And then we saw Mitchell Trubisky on that Thursday night
Speaker 1: with Chicago and he looked like a real quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 1: we just so songs, but I just said, man, this
Speaker 1: thing has to change, and I'm just happy to see
Speaker 1: that they got Mike Nolan here and they're going to
Speaker 1: make some changes. And you clearly hear the players who
Speaker 1: respect rod Man because that's the thing. Everybody respects him.
Speaker 1: But your stuff can't get old, and his stuff had
Speaker 1: gotten old and they needed to change here. And to me,
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see is Cheeto a better player
Speaker 1: now under this scheme here? Because look, here's a kid
Speaker 1: in his last year, Barry, who took a whole lot
Speaker 1: of hits throughout his career. What if he turns out
Speaker 1: and becomes a better player. We have seen players leave
Speaker 1: and go to different schemes and coaches who utilize him better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've definitely seen that. I mean case in point with
Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins with the Saints. He was rated as one
Speaker 1: of the worst, say he's coming out a free agency
Speaker 1: when he was with the Saints, but then when he
Speaker 1: got to the Eagles, he pretty much turned his whole
Speaker 1: career around. And we've seen he's still in the NFL
Speaker 1: playing at a high level. So there's been examples of
Speaker 1: this in the past where corners, you know, have struggled
Speaker 1: in one system but then turn around the turn around
Speaker 1: their whole career in another system. Patrick Chunk, that's another
Speaker 1: one of the guys who went to Philadelphia and was
Speaker 1: terrible and then went to New England and played awesome.
Speaker 1: So it's definitely possible for Cheeta to turn his season
Speaker 1: around like he did. You know, last year was kind
Speaker 1: of a rough season for him, so it's it's an
Speaker 1: ability to make this season a lot better by changing
Speaker 1: these multiple looks and have him out there doing what
Speaker 1: he can do. So hopefully he's able to turn around
Speaker 1: this year and become a better corner and we'll see
Speaker 1: if that scheme helps in Church, you know, like I
Speaker 1: don't know that. You know, like up in Seattle, they
Speaker 1: had guys who could who were superstars, Hall of Fame players,
Speaker 1: and they could line up and cover through the cover
Speaker 1: too and play that defense and still make plays. When
Speaker 1: you try to bring that to the team and as
Speaker 1: young guys and have that those caliber of players, it's
Speaker 1: a totally different thing, right. So you got Cam Chancellor,
Speaker 1: you got Earl Thomas, you got Richard Sherman. Those guys
Speaker 1: can make plays in any scheme. They're lined up and
Speaker 1: show you what they're in and they can get out
Speaker 1: there and go make plays. When you try to bring
Speaker 1: that defense to a whole different team with new guys
Speaker 1: and young guys and guys that don't have that type
Speaker 1: of talent or that type of experience. That's where you
Speaker 1: get in trouble. Like maryon Elli and Christian Shard. Did
Speaker 1: you try to line up and act like you got
Speaker 1: those guys that you had in Seattle and it just
Speaker 1: you don't get the same result. Yeah, Earl Thomas did
Speaker 1: not walk through that door at all, So it was
Speaker 1: definitely an issue. We need to take a prank. But
Speaker 1: still to come here on the players lands, let's dive
Speaker 1: a little bit into hard knocks because the Rams and
Speaker 1: the Chargers are there. The Cowboys are going to face
Speaker 1: the Rams first game of the year, that's supposed to
Speaker 1: be out of so Far Stadium in Inglewood, California. And
Speaker 1: also John Fossil was some interesting takes on why he
Speaker 1: has sold on Greg Zerline, who did not have a
Speaker 1: good year with the Rams last year, why he thinks
Speaker 1: to have very good season for the Cowboys. That's to
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Speaker 1: they come here twice, I've hated every minute of it
Speaker 1: because NFL Films they get all this carte blunt stuff
Speaker 1: that we in the local media don't get. So this
Speaker 1: year it's the Rams and it's the Chargers. They've combined
Speaker 1: them both. And so one cool thing about watching the
Speaker 1: Charges is Anthony lenn former coach here with the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys under Bill Parcel's getting his opportunity. And then um,
Speaker 1: one reason why I'm very interesting the Rams is that's
Speaker 1: the cowboys first opponent. And Barry, your former teammate in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is with He's with the Rams. Now I
Speaker 1: got himself trade it there says he loves la. He
Speaker 1: went house hunting, and he went house hunting on a place.
Speaker 1: It was about thirty plus acres of whatever. I mean
Speaker 1: this It was a mansion, Okay, it was a mansion
Speaker 1: on top of a hill all by itself. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that crib he was looking at And do you
Speaker 1: know if he bought it? Did you text him? No?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he bought the house or not.
Speaker 1: But I mean, Looyd, it was it was a palatial
Speaker 1: estate sitting on top of I mean it was a nice,
Speaker 1: very very beautiful home. But I mean knowing Ramsey the
Speaker 1: way I do. Um, you know, he loves, he liked
Speaker 1: to find the things in life, and um, you know
Speaker 1: he's worked his butt off to try to get those things.
Speaker 1: So in his mind he's thinking, hey, I gotta pay
Speaker 1: They coming here soon. If all I gotta do is
Speaker 1: stay healthy and play productive like I have been these
Speaker 1: past couple of seasons, and I can be able to
Speaker 1: afford to get something like this. But I can see
Speaker 1: him definitely grabbing that mansion. He's definitely and he's a
Speaker 1: he's a LA guy when it comes to that. The
Speaker 1: perfect team he could have went to. He's kind of Hollywood,
Speaker 1: but that's just his character. He's genuine and I can
Speaker 1: see him living in that house. I mean it was
Speaker 1: a palatial estate up there. Man who was that real
Speaker 1: estate agent? Man, they did some research on the dude.
Speaker 1: They had everything that he ever thought of it. They
Speaker 1: had everything he needed. I mean the pictures of his kid,
Speaker 1: this picture of his kids there. I mean that was
Speaker 1: you know that probably just looking at it, that probably
Speaker 1: cost twelve hundred bucks to stage all of that specifically
Speaker 1: for him. The way they had that thing lined up
Speaker 1: and which and it made me think of how much money,
Speaker 1: how much of a commission. Is this real estate agent
Speaker 1: possibly going to get off this home if you're spending
Speaker 1: that kind of the stage of that hole. I mean,
Speaker 1: they did their research, they had their kids pictures in there.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're trying to get this sold as soon
Speaker 1: as possible. I mean, they did all their research on them.
Speaker 1: And again I mean he's like I guess, he's a
Speaker 1: high profile client. So they spent the money to hopefully
Speaker 1: get the money. You know what I'm saying, Well, look
Speaker 1: they do. This is going to be on TV two,
Speaker 1: so they got they got some free pub on HBO
Speaker 1: for that. This is true. This is true. Now for me,
Speaker 1: the big thing I wanted to know is, Okay, where
Speaker 1: was the home in proximity to where they practice, where
Speaker 1: the practice facility is going to be, because you guys
Speaker 1: know just right here, you know, living in Dallas, for words,
Speaker 1: when you played for the Cowboys, where are you guys
Speaker 1: live by the practice facility. They don't live by the stadium.
Speaker 1: The stadium is over by Lax in the Englewood area.
Speaker 1: But the practice facility and plusting because the Rams have
Speaker 1: been building it and working on it, because the stadium
Speaker 1: is not done. So that to me, it's going to
Speaker 1: be the interesting thing, because LA traffic is no joke.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a challenge of it. Here here's
Speaker 1: how much of a challenge of it is. Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 1: who lived in Orange County, took a helicopter to go
Speaker 1: to games. I mean, you got to make sure you
Speaker 1: live in an area that's close by, or you could
Speaker 1: be looking at a a two to two and a
Speaker 1: half hour commute just to get work. I mean, and
Speaker 1: that was the mistake I made. Well, not really, because
Speaker 1: you know how I first played for the Cowboys. They
Speaker 1: were in Valley Ranch, so I lived in Los Clenas.
Speaker 1: But then that last year they decided to move over
Speaker 1: to Frisco and to the Star. So my commute in
Speaker 1: the morning was it was a good forty minutes, and
Speaker 1: you know, I liked my sleep, so I had to
Speaker 1: get up extremely early. And so that's one of the things,
Speaker 1: you know, a mistake I made. Make sure you live
Speaker 1: near the facility, because yeah, you might find nicer houses elsewhere,
Speaker 1: but that commute in the morning, when you're tired and
Speaker 1: you know you got to go to a full padded practice,
Speaker 1: it's just not it. It's not worth it. Add that
Speaker 1: in there because I know a lot of coaches who
Speaker 1: used to live in the South Lake area. Guys like
Speaker 1: Sean Payton lived over there, Brian Stewart lived over there,
Speaker 1: Todd lived over there. So a bunch of guys lived
Speaker 1: in that area. And now no one lives in that
Speaker 1: area because of what you spoke about the Star over
Speaker 1: in Frisco, guys, guys gonna live by the headquarters. So
Speaker 1: now guys they live over in Frisco and McKinney they
Speaker 1: live Oh that's they live in College County. Nobody lives
Speaker 1: over in Tarrant County anymore. Um, it's just a big
Speaker 1: difference in that. Jason Witten had struggled with that because
Speaker 1: he lives out He lived out over in that area
Speaker 1: and it was a challenge to get there to the
Speaker 1: Star of Frisco, and then you got to pay all
Speaker 1: those tolls. So, um, it matters, so so so it's
Speaker 1: something you definitely have to look out for. Mccraig. When
Speaker 1: you're looking at hard knocks, do you try to what
Speaker 1: do you try to pick up on as you think
Speaker 1: there could be some clues for the Cowboys as they
Speaker 1: get ready to face these rams on the first game
Speaker 1: of the year. They're not these episodes, the first two episodes,
Speaker 1: they're not hitting at all. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: to you know. He like when when I used when
Speaker 1: I used to watch it, would I would potentially like
Speaker 1: trying to look for some stuff that maybe they would run.
Speaker 1: But HBL doesn't show much of schemes and in terminology
Speaker 1: and talking and showing you, like what what they may
Speaker 1: be running. When the season comes, you could get a
Speaker 1: look at some players, but most of the time they're
Speaker 1: showing star players are they're showing rookies who are the
Speaker 1: bubble trying to make the team. So you really just
Speaker 1: don't get much out of out of the HBO Hard
Speaker 1: Knock Show from a from a scouting perspective, But I
Speaker 1: think it's always interesting to see how the stars live
Speaker 1: their lives and then how how you can tell how
Speaker 1: different that is from guys who are trying to make
Speaker 1: the team. As rookies are our second year of players
Speaker 1: who are fighting for a roster spot. Aaron Donald looks good.
Speaker 1: Gott admit that man, that guy looks really good. He
Speaker 1: does not look he does not look like a defensive lineman. No,
Speaker 1: he does not not at all. How do you guys
Speaker 1: think the Rams are gonna be when you consider the
Speaker 1: fact that, you know, they got rid of Todd Gurry,
Speaker 1: they got rid of Brandon Cooks. Um, the offensive line
Speaker 1: still has some question marks here. This is not the
Speaker 1: team that went to the Super Bowl two years ago.
Speaker 1: It's a totally different football team. And the last time
Speaker 1: we all saw the Rams, they came to at and
Speaker 1: t staking and the Cowboys laid it on. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think I think his Rams team's gonna gonna struggle a
Speaker 1: little bit this year. Um, Like you said, they lost
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. Um, you know they lost Brandon Cooks, who
Speaker 1: was a deep threat. Yeah, he missed a lot of games,
Speaker 1: but he was able to take the top off a defense.
Speaker 1: So a second day was always going to have to
Speaker 1: kind of key on him to make sure they didn't
Speaker 1: get past them. Yeah, they got Robert Woods over there
Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup, but those are kind of the They're
Speaker 1: more intermediate route runners, possession type receivers. I don't see
Speaker 1: them going over the top as much. Defensively, I feel
Speaker 1: like they have a pretty solid defense over there and
Speaker 1: that can present some problems for teams. But offensively, I
Speaker 1: just don't think they have any juice this year, and
Speaker 1: I think that first game coming up to the season,
Speaker 1: I think the college are gonna put it on a
Speaker 1: pretty well yeah, I got I got the rounds fighting
Speaker 1: for fighting really hard for third place in the division.
Speaker 1: With Arizona Jared Golfing still in the quarterback they lost
Speaker 1: a deep third even though he was hurt last year.
Speaker 1: He was a guy who could stretch the field, so
Speaker 1: they don't really have that. They depended on Robert Woods
Speaker 1: but the back half of the season, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's a jet sweet guy, like like Church said, and
Speaker 1: Cup is a guy who can make some explosive plays,
Speaker 1: but not as consistent as its stretching the field as
Speaker 1: a Brandon Cook. So with golfers and quarterback, you don't
Speaker 1: have the same running back and now you're down down
Speaker 1: your deep thread at receiver. I just think they're gonna struggle.
Speaker 1: And then you got teams like Arizona coming up in
Speaker 1: Seattle is always who they are, and then San Francisco
Speaker 1: just came up a Super Bowl run, So I think
Speaker 1: they're going to be fighting for for third uh in
Speaker 1: that division. So so you say golf the way you
Speaker 1: said golf twice, you didn't go all the way, which
Speaker 1: is you're not impressed with him, You're you're not sold
Speaker 1: on impressed sold I told you he was on my
Speaker 1: fast football team lecture. I lost all hope that Jared Goff.
Speaker 1: He's bounding right now with Kylin Murray. He's battling with
Speaker 1: Kylin Murray. And I think Kylin Murray is the federal player.
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to give give them all that,
Speaker 1: you know before the season started. But I honestly see
Speaker 1: Jared Goff then the fourth best quarterback in that division. Okay,
Speaker 1: so so let me go with you. There is Jared
Speaker 1: Golf a system quarterback in your opinion, And when you
Speaker 1: say system quarterback, your your mindset thinks of kind of
Speaker 1: like Texas Tech through the years, where it's you got
Speaker 1: to have all these other pieces around. If it's really
Speaker 1: something something you could put on the quarterback, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say I wouldn't say system. I would say he's a
Speaker 1: front running quarterback. Right. So he was bawling when they
Speaker 1: had tied Gurley and all those guys who could make
Speaker 1: those plays around them. But the running game was crazy, right.
Speaker 1: He was getting crazy yards on screens from Fid Gurley,
Speaker 1: Tire Gurley run up the middle for ten yards, tied
Speaker 1: Gurley green screen for four of yards, and that opened
Speaker 1: up a lot of stuff. So I don't think it
Speaker 1: was necessarily him just having a whole bunch of pieces
Speaker 1: around him. He had tied Gurley to help him out
Speaker 1: and say for me, oh, go ahead, go ahead, and
Speaker 1: now he go ahead. I'm sorry, no, no no, no, no, no, Church.
Speaker 1: I want to hear what you have to say for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: without a question, I think he's a system quarterback. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's you know, he's terrible or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I just think he's a bona fire system quarterback. I
Speaker 1: think he needs places around him, you know, receiver, is
Speaker 1: a good officive, line, and running back to get the
Speaker 1: most potential. Put it this way, I feel like he
Speaker 1: can't elevate the rest of his teammates. I feel like
Speaker 1: if he has subpark As on the outside and a
Speaker 1: decent running game, I think he'll just be a decent quarterback.
Speaker 1: But he needs other pieces around him to elevate his game.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's able to elevate those around him
Speaker 1: like a Tom Brady would be able to. I go
Speaker 1: back and I look at the last two super Bowls
Speaker 1: in which you had NFC teams from the west of
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers and the Rams, and the question
Speaker 1: mark you had about both quarterbacks Jimmy Garoppolo and Jared
Speaker 1: Goff got exposed in that Super Bowl, which is can
Speaker 1: your guy make a play when you need it? We
Speaker 1: saw Jared Goff missing open Brandon Cooks in the end
Speaker 1: zone in a close football game against the Patriots. That
Speaker 1: was the deciding factor for them. And then we saw
Speaker 1: Garoppolo who had a wide open Emmanuel Sanders running free.
Speaker 1: If he hits Sanders, they probably win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And when your guys don't answer the bell when they
Speaker 1: have that, you know, when they have a strong running
Speaker 1: game and they're asking you, hey, we just need you
Speaker 1: to make that throw. He couldn't make it. And for me,
Speaker 1: I look at a guy like Troy Aitman who was
Speaker 1: always is able to make that throw and win three
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. That's what you're needing from your quarterback. And
Speaker 1: to me, until those questions are answered, I do have
Speaker 1: to wonder are they system quarterbacks then? Because I believe
Speaker 1: Sean mcvayh and Kyle Sanahan can go find another guy comparable.
Speaker 1: Ala Kirk cousins and put up numbers and win with
Speaker 1: those kind of guys because both guys are relying upon
Speaker 1: run games. When you see them have their success. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got in search, you gotta go ahead, Then you
Speaker 1: go ahead. Yeah, I'm just not so there's nothing that
Speaker 1: you can tell me about that. Look, look, I agree
Speaker 1: with I agree with you. I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think that. Look, okay, can we just I'm just just
Speaker 1: straight up being honest here. I think they overpay golf.
Speaker 1: I think they overpay cooks. And as much as I
Speaker 1: love Todd Gurley the player, I would not have given
Speaker 1: a guy who had that type of injury a second
Speaker 1: contract like they did. Had they all waited, had they
Speaker 1: waited just one year, okay, just one year on all
Speaker 1: those guys because they didn't have to pay him when
Speaker 1: they did. Had they waited one more year, they would
Speaker 1: have never paid those guys. So the players should be
Speaker 1: thinking their agents if they got those deals. The only
Speaker 1: guy that I would have waited to pay, And you
Speaker 1: know a hindsight is twenty twenty. It's golf like I
Speaker 1: didn't believe in when we saw him in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You didn't believe in golf, Like, Yeah, everything was clicking
Speaker 1: that year. But like I said, it was all based
Speaker 1: on Tied Gurley, so I could see a reason for them,
Speaker 1: you know, paying Tied Gurley, you know, with the injury,
Speaker 1: but you just assumed that that it wouldn't it wouldn't
Speaker 1: haggle him for the rest of his career. But Jared Golf, no,
Speaker 1: and Brandon Cooks had just come over from another team,
Speaker 1: so yeah, you could wait on him as well. But
Speaker 1: Jared Golf should have been third on that list. The
Speaker 1: should they should have took the Cowboys route and paying
Speaker 1: the quarterback less and Golf had I think he had
Speaker 1: two more years left on his deal when he got
Speaker 1: that extension, So it's like, you know, I like, like
Speaker 1: you got should I just I'm you know, I'm confused.
Speaker 1: Would have just waited one more year, they would have
Speaker 1: not you know, paid him. They would have sawd the
Speaker 1: type of production he is, and like I said, I
Speaker 1: believe he's a system quarterback, so they would have used
Speaker 1: that money to put better pieces around him. But you know,
Speaker 1: they pulled the trigger fast, and a lot of those
Speaker 1: contracts that they pulled the trigger fast on and have
Speaker 1: not worked out for him. I believe the only one
Speaker 1: was you know Aaron Donald, So, um, you know they
Speaker 1: they gotta look at themselves and say, hey, we gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta figure this thing out or or we're gonna
Speaker 1: be rebuilding this team from the start all over again.
Speaker 1: They don't have any first round picks exactly. Chucked it
Speaker 1: up exactly, so they're out of a lot of picks.
Speaker 1: And see to me, I think for instance, and it
Speaker 1: won't happen because they've got Golf on the contract and
Speaker 1: you can't take that hit. But you could have let
Speaker 1: Golf run out of that contract and then given a
Speaker 1: guy like Sean McBay Andy Dalton, and Sean McBay would
Speaker 1: have still been able to do all the things he
Speaker 1: wants to in his system. Um. I just think that
Speaker 1: Sean is able and Kyle as well. They're able to
Speaker 1: win with different types of players. They'll put things around him.
Speaker 1: And you've seen Kyle has success with Matt Ryan. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he knows how to scheme. He's an elite coach.
Speaker 1: They got an elite coach play caller. They can scheme
Speaker 1: some things up for their quarterback. There what a touch
Speaker 1: on a former Ram who's now a Dallas cowboy and
Speaker 1: that is kicker Greg Zerline. John Fossil, the Cowboys new
Speaker 1: special teams coach who was with him for a lot
Speaker 1: of years with the Rams in Saint Louis and in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. He told the media this week that Zerline
Speaker 1: dealt with a groin injury basically most of the season
Speaker 1: last year, and all three of us play fantasy football,
Speaker 1: and Greg Zurline was not a dude you want it
Speaker 1: last year and now we know why. And Fossil said
Speaker 1: one reason why they he played injury was he was
Speaker 1: in a contract year, so he didn't want to go
Speaker 1: on ir. I get that he still got a great
Speaker 1: contract from the Cowboys, but he said that Zerline is
Speaker 1: going to have a good year. So when fantasy football
Speaker 1: drafts mine come around here next month, I might I
Speaker 1: might go ahead and pull the trigger on Greg the
Speaker 1: leg here because he's gonna be kicking a lot of
Speaker 1: balls indoors over here at a ten team stadium. So
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to have a big year. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: looking for him as well to have all go ahead. Damn,
Speaker 1: So I keep cutting you off now, you're good saying listen,
Speaker 1: mind is short. If the office plays how everybody expects
Speaker 1: them to blame. We're scoring all these touchdowns. Gregg's areline
Speaker 1: will only be kicking extra points, so he won't be
Speaker 1: getting picked on my fantasy team. You know what, I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm good towards Neui and I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and pick up Greg as well once we do our draft,
Speaker 1: because I mean, from all the reports from camp, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's nailing stuff from all over the field. And we've
Speaker 1: seen the Cowboys in the past sometimes, you know, when
Speaker 1: it comes to the red zone, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: necessarily knock it in all the time. So to have
Speaker 1: a consistent kicker like that, and like we did towards
Speaker 1: the end of the season last year, really helped us out.
Speaker 1: But to have him consistently kicking good throughout the whole year,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a plus for the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: definitely a plus for my fantasy team. Listen to me, So,
Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries are a big deal this year, right,
Speaker 1: and this guy was struggling with a soft tissue injury
Speaker 1: all of last year, So we pick him up. He
Speaker 1: hasn't been doing nothing for the entire summer, and now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's growing. That's what I'm making
Speaker 1: on He's growing is all of a sudden fixing. It's
Speaker 1: gonna hold up for the for the remainder of the year.
Speaker 1: He is not getting picked on my fantasy team. Church,
Speaker 1: What place you come in last year? Church? See you
Speaker 1: see now you're breaking up old news and old history. Man,
Speaker 1: We don't we don't even know about all that. You know.
Speaker 1: I got my new GM status now, so you know
Speaker 1: I'm I'm ready to roll this year. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: Now we know you won, We know you one, We
Speaker 1: know you one, all right, we know you won the
Speaker 1: first place. Yes, yes, and Church wants something. Church, listen
Speaker 1: to me. Okay, Church, listen to me on this. Your
Speaker 1: idea is absolutely correct. Last year I took will Us
Speaker 1: and I took will Us because I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I want a guy who's a part of a high
Speaker 1: scoring offense. So I went with him because he was
Speaker 1: with the Saints and he kicked indoors and hey, look
Speaker 1: it's ball. You're not gonna get in touch on every possession,
Speaker 1: but will you be in range for some long field goals?
Speaker 1: And my man was knocking in those forties and fifty yards.
Speaker 1: So Legatron is going to be on an offensive. We
Speaker 1: export expect to score thirty points a game, and he's
Speaker 1: a guy who because he was hurt last year, you
Speaker 1: could possibly wait till almost the last pick in your
Speaker 1: draft and get the guy while everybody else is trying
Speaker 1: to go get Will Lutts and other dudes who scored
Speaker 1: high points early. So go ahead and be smart and
Speaker 1: be like me and start looking at Legatron. Okay, you
Speaker 1: listen to me and wait to say when did I
Speaker 1: must be missing? So when did Legatron? Is that? Is
Speaker 1: that his nickname for me? Leg T? I never heard
Speaker 1: that one. I never heard that one. Maybe maybe knew
Speaker 1: he made that love it. Uh No, he has been
Speaker 1: called Legatron. It was it was him and it was
Speaker 1: the guy in Minnesota. Um yeah, Gregg the leg Legatron.
Speaker 1: So they've they've thrown it out there, but look the
Speaker 1: guys the guy the guy could kick and ultimately Danny.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to help. I mean, I'm trying to help
Speaker 1: Barry not repeat last year because the way you're running
Speaker 1: man down about his fantasy team last year, it's like
Speaker 1: watching Michael Jordan when he was rasing Scott Barrell during
Speaker 1: during the last day something. No, let me play something
Speaker 1: before let's get the let's get some war context to this. No,
Speaker 1: I was auto picked. I didn't get to pick my
Speaker 1: own my own draft, so I was auto picked out there.
Speaker 1: So I was already behind the eight ball when I
Speaker 1: was dowing the season started, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So and in the in the guys and the moves
Speaker 1: I made, they were they were playing well in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, but as soon as I drafted
Speaker 1: them on my team, they just they stunk it up. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I was behind the eight ball
Speaker 1: from the beginning. But no excuses, no excuses. Okay, first
Speaker 1: of all, you made this, you made excuse that say,
Speaker 1: no excuse new last day. Tell me this, if Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones miss miss draft day, would there be a reason
Speaker 1: for us not being able to make the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: And he just like, oh man, I was on the
Speaker 1: yacht meet me and Steven and Will. We couldn't make it.
Speaker 1: So we just we just called in and told the
Speaker 1: told everybody to pick up we had on the board.
Speaker 1: No excuse, we don't, we don't want to that. No, no,
Speaker 1: no excuses, man, noo, there's too many moves you couldn't
Speaker 1: make during the year Okay, there's no days off on
Speaker 1: your fantasy football team. Okay, there's no days off, all right.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you'd like to have a solid draft,
Speaker 1: but but at the end of the day, you gotta
Speaker 1: be maneuvering your roster and keep on improving it. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's too many dudes who got good in the second
Speaker 1: half of the year. A J. Brown, uh, Ryan Tanner Hills.
Speaker 1: There too many Tyler Higbee got good, Joe Mixon started performing.
Speaker 1: You gotta be on the way of roster man. You
Speaker 1: gotta be serious about this business man. It's not a game.
Speaker 1: Fantasy footballs out a game. It's a lie. It's a
Speaker 1: way of life. Switch it up. I'm gonna switch it
Speaker 1: up so to being the best GM possible for teamMy Glaciers,
Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. All right,
Speaker 1: We must take another break, but I want to get
Speaker 1: into the Cowboys defensive ends here Alden Smith and Everson
Speaker 1: Griffin and what we're hearing so far from camp. This
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Speaker 1: players line all right, Friday Players last last fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: got a lot of work. We gotta squeeze in right
Speaker 1: here and knew we Scruggs a long time Cowboys reported
Speaker 1: joined by former Cowboy players Danny McCrae at Barry Church
Speaker 1: will start with Alden Smith. Dak Prescott was asked about
Speaker 1: facing him and he said he damn sho doesn't look
Speaker 1: like a guy who's missed five years of football here,
Speaker 1: so he is impressive at camp. He feels good. He
Speaker 1: says that being back in the locker room was the
Speaker 1: thing he missed most. So, Danny McCrae, you were one
Speaker 1: of the vocal guys who was questioning Alden Smith. We
Speaker 1: haven't played a game yet, but so far he is
Speaker 1: giving the Cowboys more than what they thought they were getting,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna stick with what I said. This is
Speaker 1: the beginning of training camp. I think it may have
Speaker 1: been in past for like two days and then LC's
Speaker 1: not practicing. I think Tyring is out with injured as well,
Speaker 1: so I'm not sure who all the Smith's going against,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad that he's getting back into the groove
Speaker 1: of things, and I think it'll take him a game
Speaker 1: or two before he gets back to filling or looking
Speaker 1: anything similar to how he looked previously. I think, like
Speaker 1: I said last week, the COVID and him not having
Speaker 1: to be out and be in the city and having
Speaker 1: those temptations helped him tremendously. So I'm proud that the
Speaker 1: start is good, but I'm just I'm still not sold
Speaker 1: on it yet. Okay, Danny's Danny's negative, Nelly here great
Speaker 1: where to go. I'm proud, but just like just like
Speaker 1: with coach McCarthy, just like with everything else in my life, Man,
Speaker 1: look when I see it, I believe it. And then
Speaker 1: you know that's what I said at the beginning. So
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hop off, hop off my opinion. Yet
Speaker 1: he got to show me something in game time, in
Speaker 1: real game time. We're not even gonna see a preseason
Speaker 1: I got to see real game time explosive this Barry,
Speaker 1: you're drinking poole. I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you this. I'm gonna have a sit just to you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a sipping washing around a little bit
Speaker 1: to see how it really tastes. But you know, from
Speaker 1: the reports we're getting from Camp, I mean, everything sounds amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, he looks explosive out there. He's turning the corner.
Speaker 1: His bend is unbelievable. And like you said, you've seen guy.
Speaker 1: Guys are saying, it doesn't look like he's taking, you know,
Speaker 1: five years off from being a defensive end. But um,
Speaker 1: like Joe sins, somebody used to always tell me, man,
Speaker 1: everybody looks good in shorts when you put those pads on.
Speaker 1: And yeah, they had a pad of practice here and there.
Speaker 1: But like he said, he's not going against lyle Cons.
Speaker 1: He ain't going up against Tyren Smith right now. So
Speaker 1: I gotta see in an actual game, when the lights
Speaker 1: are on, pressure is on, the defense needs him to
Speaker 1: step it up. I want to see what he can
Speaker 1: do then before I go ahead and drink the full
Speaker 1: cup of tea right there. But um, and also, I mean,
Speaker 1: we gotta see when, like what if he starts having success,
Speaker 1: And like Danny said, the temptations start coming around. So
Speaker 1: hopefully he's able to get all those you know, pass
Speaker 1: demons out of this, out of this psyche, and he's
Speaker 1: able to go into this season fully focused and fully
Speaker 1: prepared because from the sounds, from the sounds of it
Speaker 1: from camp, he seems like he's having an explosive, explosive
Speaker 1: beginning to the camp. Let's just hope it carries over
Speaker 1: to the regular season. Here's so much of the positives
Speaker 1: that I've gotten out of Olden Smith is for years
Speaker 1: that hope people have had with Randy Gregory and they
Speaker 1: didn't really get to see it that Olden Smith could
Speaker 1: actually do what were you were hoping Randy Gregory could do,
Speaker 1: which is get yourself back here, be in a frame
Speaker 1: of mind. And the one thing he has it Randy doesn't.
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of experience in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: and he didn't go against tying on some reps, and
Speaker 1: and he's made some plays and he had one tipped
Speaker 1: pass of a Dak Prescott to throw that he almost intercepted.
Speaker 1: So so far it's almost like Cede Lamb in terms
Speaker 1: of what you were hoping for, so far you're getting.
Speaker 1: And while Danny can be negative Nelly on it, I
Speaker 1: think I'm with you, Barry with might as well. Let's
Speaker 1: take a little ship, let's enjoy it and let's see
Speaker 1: where it goes. Hold on, wait, what so how come
Speaker 1: I gotta be negative just because I didn't buy until
Speaker 1: he's gonna be like this the guy that he was before.
Speaker 1: He you know, had this issue as it was off
Speaker 1: the field. That don't make me negative. I'm just being realistic.
Speaker 1: I'll played the game and you know, five five years
Speaker 1: off and going into going into a practice and knocking
Speaker 1: down the ball or beat somebody on the past. Rush's
Speaker 1: not equate into who you were before, which was a
Speaker 1: complete monster on the field. Okay, Okay, I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you have that, man, you feel good, Feel Goodna, let
Speaker 1: you have that. Listen. I'm praying for him, man, Listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I want him to fight these things. I'm praying for him,
Speaker 1: just like I pray for Johns Gordon. Man. I want
Speaker 1: those guys to come back and be the comeback stories
Speaker 1: to make and write a book and have America's i
Speaker 1: mean a New York bestseller. I want him to win.
Speaker 1: But I'm realistic and he has not done anything yet,
Speaker 1: Like we were not into real football yet, so I'll
Speaker 1: just waiting. Okay, you're going with the old Bill Parcel's line,
Speaker 1: and he used to say it here when he coached
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. All I can go by is what I see,
Speaker 1: So you need to see more. Okay, that's that's fair.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Everson Griffin, on the other hand, who signed
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, we have seen him last year. We
Speaker 1: saw a coach on Sunday Night Football in that Vikings
Speaker 1: Cowboys game. I was surprised when I read he turned
Speaker 1: out forty three million dollars. He had that due to
Speaker 1: him and he opted out of the contract. That I
Speaker 1: don't understand, but hey, he's with the Cowboys on a
Speaker 1: one year, six million dollars deal. When guys are playing
Speaker 1: for money like that, could we expect, maybe you that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys get a Robert Quinn like performance from Everson Griffin,
Speaker 1: who's trying to, you know, get on the market next year,
Speaker 1: and if Tank Lawrence bounces back to what he was
Speaker 1: two years ago before last year's five sack performance, that
Speaker 1: maybe he has a Robert Quinn like year and could
Speaker 1: put up double digit sacks. Danny, Yeah, I think you know,
Speaker 1: when guys come in and they're playing hunger and they're
Speaker 1: planning to get into free agency and get that big payday,
Speaker 1: I think they usually played better. That passing up forty
Speaker 1: three million is a little concerning to me because now
Speaker 1: I'm like, is he really playing for money? Or is
Speaker 1: he just like you know, I don't really need it.
Speaker 1: I'm just playing for the love of the game. I'm
Speaker 1: a little confused, but I think that him and seeing
Speaker 1: him as a player over the past few years, I
Speaker 1: think he's going to be that same guy money or not,
Speaker 1: He's just he's just one hell of a player. He
Speaker 1: has a high motor and he can get to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't think him wanting to get paid or not
Speaker 1: being able to get paid it's going to change any
Speaker 1: of that. I think he's going to be a great
Speaker 1: football player like he's been for the last few years
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Chert, Well, I'll tell you this, The Cowboys
Speaker 1: better hope that he comes with the production that Robert
Speaker 1: Quinn had last year. I mean, Robert Quinn had eleven
Speaker 1: sacks last year. I mean he was able to consistently
Speaker 1: beat one on one blocks out there, which was able
Speaker 1: to open up things for other people. Now, I didn't
Speaker 1: come to fruition with those others getting sacks as well,
Speaker 1: but hopefully everything Griffin is able to come in here
Speaker 1: and have that same level of production or even better
Speaker 1: production than Robert Quinn had, and hopefully that will open
Speaker 1: up things for the Tyrone Crawfords in the middle of
Speaker 1: the all the Smiths on the other edge, where the
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is on the other edge. So hopefully he
Speaker 1: can come and get that consistent pressure that we had
Speaker 1: from Robert Quinn, because if he's able to do that,
Speaker 1: then this defense can become, in my opinion of top
Speaker 1: five because once that defensive line starts rolling, like I said,
Speaker 1: it makes it a lot easier for the secondary and
Speaker 1: max it out easier for the linebackers to do what
Speaker 1: they do, and in turn that turns into victories. So
Speaker 1: hopefully he's able to get that production that Robert Quinny was,
Speaker 1: and I know the Colbos are praying that they do
Speaker 1: because they need it. They really do. Tell me this
Speaker 1: Millie and church Solis. Did you know the deal that
Speaker 1: he passed up? Like how many years it was for
Speaker 1: forty three, I don't know, but it was already it was.
Speaker 1: It was opted I mean he opted out of it.
Speaker 1: I mean that was the thing. It was. It was
Speaker 1: all the books for forty three and I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was for three or four more years, but
Speaker 1: he opted out of that deal to test free agency.
Speaker 1: And I guess he thought he was gonna gonna get
Speaker 1: a monster contract. Um. I'd also read one place where
Speaker 1: they said, well maybe the Vikings were gonna cut him
Speaker 1: and and and try, you know, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: All I know is man, forty three mil, ten million
Speaker 1: year in this league. You know that's that's uh you
Speaker 1: you know, and your thirty plus. Okay, you're thirty plus.
Speaker 1: It's not like you're twenty eight years old or twenty nine.
Speaker 1: But maybe he thought, hey, look man, um, he saw
Speaker 1: get twenty mill and thought he could opt out and
Speaker 1: then somebody's gonna give him bag. But you think about
Speaker 1: him and Jadeveon Clowney both making really bad decisions, um,
Speaker 1: and gambling on themselves here because I know, we know
Speaker 1: this was a league that normally pays you know, pass rushers,
Speaker 1: but they decided that they weren't. No nobody in the
Speaker 1: league paid him his number, and Clowney is still out
Speaker 1: there right now trying to trying to get a job
Speaker 1: at his numbers. His number. Yes, it's super confusing on
Speaker 1: the efforts in Griffin part because like I said, I
Speaker 1: mean forty they're gonna have to cut meat. Like if
Speaker 1: you got forty three million, it's already on the books,
Speaker 1: like I'm not. I'm not searching for the agency trying
Speaker 1: to get more. I'm like, man, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: cut me or something like that, because I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: all this forty three. So maybe he, like you said,
Speaker 1: maybe he was in like a clowney situation where he thought, man,
Speaker 1: you know, if I if I get out of here,
Speaker 1: so I might be able to hit a three year
Speaker 1: you know, something crazy like three year fifty mill or
Speaker 1: something like that to get you know, to get his
Speaker 1: or sixteen mile or something like that, to get that
Speaker 1: twenty per year. And that's the only way I can
Speaker 1: take a passion of forty three. And I just think
Speaker 1: he made the wrong move. But you know, hopefully he's
Speaker 1: able to produce for our cowboys and we can get
Speaker 1: some victories out of it. In a pandemic, that's your thing.
Speaker 1: You you opted out of a deal in a pandemic.
Speaker 1: Um the salary kept going down next year, okay, you
Speaker 1: know they've already told it's going down prices. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be like that little Walmart yellow sticker, the roll back.
Speaker 1: The league has told all the players and ages there
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a rollback. So even if Everson Griffin, right,
Speaker 1: if Everson Griffin has a really good year of double
Speaker 1: digit sack, who knows, you know, truly what kind of
Speaker 1: money is out there, So you know it's a gamble
Speaker 1: and he's in it now. But if I'm Everson Griffin, man,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that Olden Smith and Tank Lawrence are unblockable
Speaker 1: and that I can get some one on ones and
Speaker 1: get to some of these quarterbacks here, because in order
Speaker 1: to get a massive payday, he's got to have numbers.
Speaker 1: And I'll give Robert quinn um, you know, his dude,
Speaker 1: he had that year and the Bears were desperate and
Speaker 1: so they paid the freight. So we'll see. But I'm
Speaker 1: with you, man, it's it's hard to opt out of deals,
Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about you know, we're in a
Speaker 1: pandemic right now and trying to opt out of deals here.
Speaker 1: So so we'll see. But through the Cowboys, hey, good
Speaker 1: for you, you know, good for you that Everson Griffin
Speaker 1: decided to go ahead and do what he did. And
Speaker 1: somebody out there may get lucky with Jaevan Clowney, but
Speaker 1: I think Griffinson's I think Griffin's a better fit for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys than Clowney. I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: were talking about and wanted Jendeveon Clowney, but I just
Speaker 1: Clowny only had three sacks. I think this is a
Speaker 1: better situation for a Griffin who said he grew up
Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan and was named after Everson Walls. So
Speaker 1: I thought that it was a pretty cool thing that
Speaker 1: he told the media this week as well. Everson Walls, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, should be in the Pro Football Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. And let me give out shout to my boy,
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson, the original eighty eight, who is the senior
Speaker 1: finalist for a player for induction for the Pro Football
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty, which means he's
Speaker 1: basically rubber stamp. They're not going to not put Drew
Speaker 1: Pearson in. He's the only member of the nineteen seventies
Speaker 1: All Decade Team First Team not in only receiver from
Speaker 1: the All First Team All Decade Team in the fifty sixty, seventies, eighties,
Speaker 1: and nineties not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson is getting in in February, and I'm pretty
Speaker 1: excited about that. For the Class of twenty twenty, one,
Speaker 1: a undrafted free agent congress to Drew Man, well deserved, NUIs,
Speaker 1: I saw you. I saw you shed a tier form
Speaker 1: when y'all are on the phone. Man, that's that's a
Speaker 1: big time. I'm really happy for the guy. He's a
Speaker 1: great guy. Mid him a couple of times, and great energy,
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to hear his speech. He said
Speaker 1: it was gonna be the next level. Yep, like lad
Speaker 1: like like mcraie had met him a couple of times
Speaker 1: and he's always had that great energy about him, so
Speaker 1: I can assume that's how he was as a player.
Speaker 1: Let's just take It's a shame that it took this
Speaker 1: long for him to get in, but I'm glad that
Speaker 1: he'll finally be able to get in and put that
Speaker 1: jacket on him and as much deserve him. I was
Speaker 1: at his house in January. He had too many people over.
Speaker 1: He had champagne that was chilling. He expected to pop
Speaker 1: that bottle and get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: And when Harold Carmichael got in, Harold Carmichael was second
Speaker 1: team All nineteen seventies. Harold Carmichael played in only one
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Drew Pearson played in three Drew one his
Speaker 1: Harold did not. It was hard man. He went into
Speaker 1: the he left, he went into his office. He was cursing.
Speaker 1: I mean he was upset, and he teared up and cried.
Speaker 1: And so he and I we worked together for thirteen years.
Speaker 1: I just gave him a hug and I said, you know,
Speaker 1: you're a Hall of Famer. I said, God's God's delaying it,
Speaker 1: but he won't deny it. And so it was definitely
Speaker 1: emotional for me because I spent thirteen years, you know,
Speaker 1: talking back like Drew, you are you are? He was,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't think that he would ever get it,
Speaker 1: and the the politics were against him, and for that to
Speaker 1: happen was really special. And we're not talking about a
Speaker 1: guy who didn't earn it. Fellas. I go back to
Speaker 1: watching The Last Dance, when Isaiah Thomason talked about the
Speaker 1: Dream Team, he says, I don't know what the process
Speaker 1: was for picking that team, but I know I met
Speaker 1: the criteria. And that was Drew Pearson's career. When you
Speaker 1: talk about the process that goes into selecting Hall of Famers,
Speaker 1: Drew met the criteria of it. And to watch a
Speaker 1: couple of guys get in over him and during his time,
Speaker 1: like Harold Carmichael and John Stalwarth, those were hard pills
Speaker 1: to swallow. I had guys like mel Blunt, who might
Speaker 1: be the best quarterback to ever play in this league.
Speaker 1: They changed rules because mel Blunt was so good. Mel
Speaker 1: Blunt told me, he said, Neui, if I can help
Speaker 1: Drew get in, I will because he is a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. And that's pretty cool. Man. When a guy
Speaker 1: like mel Blunt says Joe Green the greatest Pittsburgh Steel
Speaker 1: of all time, you know, Joe Green said that guy
Speaker 1: was a Hall of Famer. When you have legends on
Speaker 1: a team like the Seelers who have four Super Bowl
Speaker 1: rings and they can look across and tell you that
Speaker 1: guy was a Hall of Famer, that's pretty that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he's just now one step away
Speaker 1: from going there, I'm really happy for him. YEP. I
Speaker 1: want to ask you this before before we get off,
Speaker 1: because we've been speaking about this for a few weeks,
Speaker 1: these these injuries that we're having. We got Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: we got LC, we got LT we got guys going down,
Speaker 1: and then a round the league as well, you got
Speaker 1: guys going down with ACLS and achilles and all these
Speaker 1: different injuries that us off tissue. How concerning is this
Speaker 1: for for us, especially with our old line. It's where
Speaker 1: everybody across the league. I mean, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about our fantasy football teams and
Speaker 1: my league, I said, we need to have a injury roster.
Speaker 1: We had the IR and a COVID. So we got
Speaker 1: two things, IR and COVID. Because it's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1: Make sure you draft a lot of guys here. Well,
Speaker 1: you stop, bar I gotta finish this. Okay, we're almost
Speaker 1: Then give me two minutes. I'll let you out. Two
Speaker 1: minutes to chill out over there. Man, I give her credit.
Speaker 1: She was good. She was good. For thank you. My
Speaker 1: child just came and got the dog guy, So tell
Speaker 1: me when my children just can't come down. I'm playing
Speaker 1: home school dad, trying to do a podcast, trying to
Speaker 1: take care of the dog. My wife went out to
Speaker 1: go do some work today. So I'm trying to juggle
Speaker 1: a whole lot of things here and prepare for my
Speaker 1: fantasy football draft. So I got a lot of things
Speaker 1: I'm doing life. Yes, yes, I gotta wash the dishes.
Speaker 1: I already put a load of laundry in so yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm that guy. Man, I'm Versa told me. I
Speaker 1: tell my wife, I said, your next husband's not gonna
Speaker 1: do all this, You do it. She's not going to nowhere.
Speaker 1: You're going all that fellas. This was fun as always.
Speaker 1: I look forward to next Friday, and Mike McCarthy talked
Speaker 1: about as they're gonna ramp things up in the next
Speaker 1: two weeks as they start to get closer to um
Speaker 1: that first game against the Rams. But I'm excited because
Speaker 1: I see the guys, the players when they talk to us,
Speaker 1: they're really enjoying the fact that it's new, it's fresh,
Speaker 1: and they believe in what they're being taught. And that's
Speaker 1: so much what football is. As a coach, you got
Speaker 1: to get these guys to buy into what you say
Speaker 1: because you can't be asked the players man and Danny.
Speaker 1: I really feel like Mike McCarthy and his staff are
Speaker 1: going to be able to take these guys and put
Speaker 1: them in the best position. Yeah, that's cool. You still
Speaker 1: own Mike McCarthy, and I feel like he's gonna do
Speaker 1: a decent job. I got come on, Danny, Danny, drink
Speaker 1: it with me. Drink. I'll say this because I know
Speaker 1: we're gonna postpone drink having to come up with this bet,
Speaker 1: this bet that you ready was all right, all right,
Speaker 1: So I know you're not ready to put the chips
Speaker 1: in on McCarthy yet. So I give you another seven
Speaker 1: days to come up with what you want to what
Speaker 1: you want to bet, so you can go on and
Speaker 1: three against what with bets against me. I believe the coach, Mike.
Speaker 1: I believe in a Super Bowl winner. Okay, as Rick
Speaker 1: Flair once said, you don't lose faith in winners. Okay,
Speaker 1: you don't lose faith in win I'm good with I'm good.
Speaker 1: I believe in Harvey, Dan Batman. We shall see, we
Speaker 1: shall see, all right. He's Danny mccraig. He's buried church.
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