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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up. Everybody? Welcome in to a Wednesday the

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Speaker 1: issue of Texas All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. We will not be

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Speaker 1: on the air tomorrow because there's football all day long

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Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six ten, So everybody off from radio

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Speaker 1: perspective tomorrow. Players will get their practice time in the

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Speaker 1: morning and then get with families. Friends. If you have

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Speaker 1: friends giving Thanksgiving, family Thanksgiving, however you're gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. I'm your host, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: football analyst, sideline reporter, so thankful for the opportunity that

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Speaker 1: I have that we have to bring you Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: football on game day all throughout the year. It is

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Speaker 1: just an absolute joy to be a member of this organization,

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Speaker 1: to be a member of this fan base, and to

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Speaker 1: have you guys as fans and followers and listeners and

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Speaker 1: obviously even the critics. I know there are some of

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Speaker 1: And we've got a jam packed Wednesday show because it

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Speaker 1: is Thanksgiving tomorrow, so we're going to hear from Ethan

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Speaker 1: Greenberg who covers the Jets for Jets dot Com. He

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Speaker 1: So we'll get an opportunity to dive in this team

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen three years. It's a team that's monumentally

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Speaker 1: different from three years ago. In the last time they

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Speaker 1: the Jets and Ethan Greenberg's gonna give us the skinny

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Speaker 1: out a team that's fairly beat up at some key positions,

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Speaker 1: in particular running back and well there's news at quarterback

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Speaker 1: this segment. We're also gonna do a Wednesday where are

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Speaker 1: they now? With four cornerback slash safety turned Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: Doherty for a very healthy Where are they now in

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Speaker 1: the second segment, So that's going to be a that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a really fun time. So I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to hear what Glover's got to say about what he's

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a good long actually a couple of

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Speaker 1: you definitely want to hang around to hear what Nick's

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving meal is. And let's just say that he might

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Speaker 1: You'll hear my somewhat disdain for his It's Thanksgiving meal,

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't so much the Thanksgiving meal, it's just

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Speaker 1: the ease and the comfort with which he said it,

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Speaker 1: and he just made it sound like it was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Here's Nick Kisserio joining us right now Texans Radio. It's

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Speaker 1: Texans general manager Nick Kisserio. Nick, congratulations on the win

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Speaker 1: before we move on to next week. What did you

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Speaker 1: think the performance in the conditions, getting the takeaways, getting

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Speaker 1: It's hard to win in this league. So it's a

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Speaker 1: credit to the players and the coaches. A lot of

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Speaker 1: The Titans dead on Sunday, did some good things, you know,

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Speaker 1: They play hard, They really compete. They play with a

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Speaker 1: we have to recalibrate, and they're not going to switch

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Speaker 1: a schedule, like we have to go out there and

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Speaker 1: play a game on Sunday, So like nobody cares it's

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Speaker 1: to holidays. I mean, the holidays are great. We all

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Speaker 1: love the food, the family and the time that we

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Speaker 1: get together. But ultimately we have to come back and

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Speaker 1: refocus and get ourselves ready to play on Sunday, you know,

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Speaker 1: because if we're not prepared physically and mentally, then we're

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Speaker 1: going to put ourselves in a tough spot against the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Did you like Thanksgiving games? And we don't have one

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Speaker 1: this year? I know we have one last year. Do

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Speaker 1: you like playing a game with Thanksgiving? Yeah, we had

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Speaker 1: a few Thanksgiving games, and you know what, it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit like the whole Thursday night when you play

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night. So the hard part is you just

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Speaker 1: flip the page and you're especially around the holidays, you're

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Speaker 1: away from your family, but you know you have Friday,

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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday where you can maybe spend a little

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Speaker 1: more time together and take advantage of opportunities. So really,

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Speaker 1: our I thought process, whenever, wherever, whoever it is, we'll

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Speaker 1: be ready to go. And you know, if it's on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: it's on Thursday. I get the players like because they

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Speaker 1: get that turkey leg or whatever if we win the

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Speaker 1: game and here the player in the game. Well, this

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be the Nick Kissario Thanksgiving Special with

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Speaker 1: your complete menu upstairs with killings. We did that already,

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Speaker 1: Oh we oh yeah we do. We did get that.

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Speaker 1: So this is legit food holiday. Yeah legit? What are

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Speaker 1: you gonna ask me what I eat? And thanks of

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Speaker 1: course we are is it to furkey. No, just kidding, No, No,

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Speaker 1: I came up with a menu. I texted, all I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't say no. We actually, oh so Usually what

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Speaker 1: we do it's just the five of us, just on

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Speaker 1: my my wife and our three girls and our dog.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes we have whether it's my wife's mother, you know,

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Speaker 1: if she's able to do it. But we kind of

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Speaker 1: do our own Thanksgiving dinner and our oldest is very

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Speaker 1: involved in the I would say, preparation of the food, um,

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Speaker 1: setting the table, and we have our own little traditions.

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Speaker 1: But I'm basic turn cranberries and a little salad and

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Speaker 1: some butternut squash. That's about the extent of it. You

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Speaker 1: can have the stuffing and basic turkey, cranberry salad, salad

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Speaker 1: and some butternut squash come out of your We're asking

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Speaker 1: guys whether, well do you want to take mashed potatoes

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Speaker 1: out or sweep into the cast role? And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: we can't even ask you which one you want to take.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, I'll try a little pumpkin pie. Maybe

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Speaker 1: all right, that's nice though I know I'm not even

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Speaker 1: gonna I shouldn't even but you put the dollop of

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Speaker 1: cool whip on top or no, oh, no chance the answer.

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Speaker 1: I knew the answer, going low energy food energy. Nick,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much, Happy Thanksgiving, a good luck. Say thanks

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Speaker 1: guys saying but you have a great week. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you I have more fun sitting next to Nikes Sario

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Speaker 1: and talking football, talking not football. I mean, he's he's

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Speaker 1: the best. And I mean when I asked whether he

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Speaker 1: on now. My pumpkin pie, which I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: fan of pumpkin pie, but if I'm pumpkin pie, I've

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Speaker 1: got to have the dopple whip cream. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: could cover that thing in whipped cream. I'm not a

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Speaker 1: big pumpkin pie fan. Pecom pie. I'm like Coach Culley

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Speaker 1: all day long, apple pie all day long, cherry or

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Speaker 1: some kind of fruit pie all day long. Pumpkin I'm

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Speaker 1: with Landry Locker on this one. I heard Landry talking

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Speaker 1: today about certain foods around. Thanks give me. I'm actually

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Speaker 1: in his corner on a lot of things, which I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's good, bad or otherwise. I love Landry.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's like he's almost like a little brother

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Speaker 1: in some sense. I mean's he's I love him. He's great.

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Speaker 1: And his food takes are kind of long, the same

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Speaker 1: as mine. There are certain things and he talked about

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Speaker 1: I think it was pumpkin spice today and he's like,

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Speaker 1: it's way over it. I'm like, absolutely, I can't stand

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Speaker 1: all his pumpkin spice stuff. Not for me. Pumpkin pie,

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Speaker 1: not for me. I think we're having apple pie in

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Speaker 1: the Harris household. All right, enough talking about food tests

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Speaker 1: gonna make me hungry because we're around dinner time. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about a few things going on, in particular transactions.

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Speaker 1: And it's Wednesday, so there's obviously got to be an

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Speaker 1: injury report and we're gonna look at that. But first

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Speaker 1: transactions for your Texans, and then we actually have a

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Speaker 1: couple for the Jets to the Texas have signed a

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Speaker 1: following player to the active roster for the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: That would be Derek Rivers. And I can't tell you

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Speaker 1: how happy I am for Derek Rivers considering what he's

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Speaker 1: been through as a rookie. We're at the Greenbrier, he's

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Speaker 1: going on a kickoff and he shredded his knee and

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Speaker 1: he's been battling to get back. I thought he played

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Speaker 1: for the first time all year. He played the ragulis

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Speaker 1: his game, and I thought he actually played pretty well.

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Speaker 1: The other day made his presence known. So Derek Rivers

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Speaker 1: moving up to active roster. That means Connor Stround is

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Speaker 1: coming back to the practice squad former linebacker from Boston College.

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Speaker 1: Transactions on the Jets side. Two quarterbacks now added to

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Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen listing. That would be both Mike White

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Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco. Now White I believe tested positive, but

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Speaker 1: he's vaccinated, so there's a possibility he can come back

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Speaker 1: if he gets the test. Joe Flacco is not vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: so he's out now. It does appear that Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: was going to start regardless, but I'm thinking that it's

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Speaker 1: going to be Zach Wilson and it's going to be

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Speaker 1: Josh Johnson, and we're not gonna see Joe Flacco Mike White.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens there, all right. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to our injury report for the Texas Jets a little

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Speaker 1: bit later, but those big news for Derek Rivers, which

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Speaker 1: I thought was awesome, and then big news for the

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Speaker 1: Jets quarterback situation. Both quarterbacks that have started the last

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Speaker 1: three to four weeks out, Mike White and Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: onto the COVID nineteen listing. All right, we get back.

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Speaker 1: Let's learn a little bit more about the Jets from

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Speaker 1: Ethan Greenberg sit report of the New York Jets with

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Speaker 1: a good friend DPC. That's next on Texans Alexis Alexis

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Speaker 1: Alexis Texas. Welcome back this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna remind you people to come check out our

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Speaker 1: Battle Red Bash at Energy Stadium on December fourth. All

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Speaker 1: fans are invited to meet Texans special guests like Santa

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Speaker 1: Toro and HTC Yeah, Houston Texas cheerleaders, enjoy some discounted

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Speaker 1: holiday shopping and enter to win prizes. Visit Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: dot com for more information. It's the Battle Reb Bash

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Speaker 1: on December fourth. But we got some things to do

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Speaker 1: before we get to December fourth, and that starts with

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets. So let's learn a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about the Jets from Ethan Greenberg, Senior reporter four

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets, who sat down with our good

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Speaker 1: friend DPCO. It's Enemy Sidelines, presented by Microsoft. My guests

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Speaker 1: this week, New York Jets reporter Ethan Greenberg. Ethan, the

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Speaker 1: Jets sitting at two and eight, just like the Texans.

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Speaker 1: What's the mood like with the fan base? Would you

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Speaker 1: say it's optimism for the future or is it frustration

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Speaker 1: with the losses? What are things like right now up

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Speaker 1: there in your market? I would say it's almost a

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Speaker 1: mix of both, because I think what's frustrating for fans

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Speaker 1: is that the team has obviously not done as well

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Speaker 1: as you'd hope it too. Like you said that, Jets

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Speaker 1: are two and eight, but the young players on the

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Speaker 1: team are playing at a very high level, particularly the rookies.

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Speaker 1: Let's start in the second round with wide receiver Elijah Moore.

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Speaker 1: He had a career high eight catches, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty one yards and a touchdown against the Dolphins last week,

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Speaker 1: including a sixty two yard catch and run. He's really

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Speaker 1: come on strong the past couple of weeks. And then

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Speaker 1: let's start or let's go to the fourth round. Michael Carter,

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Speaker 1: who just was announced that he's gonna miss about two

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Speaker 1: to four weeks with a low grade high ankle sprain,

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Speaker 1: which I don't really know what that means, but I

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Speaker 1: know that it means he's gonna miss time. So he's

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Speaker 1: the Jets starting running back, and he started to really

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Speaker 1: improve over the past couple of weeks. He saw his

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Speaker 1: vision really take that next step. And Robert Salas said,

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Speaker 1: these guys might be rookies, but they can't really be

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Speaker 1: playing like him because they have prominent roles with the

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Speaker 1: Green and White. And let's go back to the first round.

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Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker has been a starter for this Jets

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Speaker 1: team at left guard from day one. He's an up

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Speaker 1: and coming player on this team and he's been playing

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Speaker 1: well lately. But the frustration comes in where you start

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Speaker 1: at the number two overall picking Zach Wilson because he's

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Speaker 1: missed about a month with a PCL sprain and it's

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Speaker 1: up in the air whether or not he will make

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Speaker 1: his return against the Texans and Houston on Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: if not, you would anticipate that would be Joe Flacco again,

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Speaker 1: who started against the Dolphins his first start with the

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Speaker 1: Jets in twenty twenty one, and he had a good game.

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Speaker 1: He through for two hundred ninety one yards through for

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns. He did lose a fumble, but he really

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Speaker 1: he really got cleaned on a blindside blitz where Brandon Jones,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins safety, came free. So I would say it's

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Speaker 1: a mix between frustration and optimism because it's a balance

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Speaker 1: of short term and long term. But that I think

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Speaker 1: is the mood of the fan. And I think they're

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Speaker 1: starving for a win because that's kind of the temperature

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Speaker 1: of New York fans wherever, whatever the sport is, whatever

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Speaker 1: the season is, they always are starving for wins. So

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. There would be a snapshot of

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Speaker 1: what's happening with the fans here in New York. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's will said. And you mentioned the frustration

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback. The Jets have had a rotation of quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: so let's just hit the quarterback position right out the gate.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Joe Flacco last week when Robert Sala announced

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Speaker 1: that he was going to be starting over Mike White.

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Speaker 1: You know what went into that decision and did Flacco

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Speaker 1: do enough to maintain that role? While Zach Wilson stays

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Speaker 1: out with the injury. So the reason why the Jets

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Speaker 1: went with Flacco last week against the Dolphins is because

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Speaker 1: Miami has to offer a lot of different cover zero looks,

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Speaker 1: where it's a complex system that for any quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is a Super Bowl champion in this league,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl MVP, He's seen a lot of football, especially

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Speaker 1: compared to the active quarterbacks on the Jets. Ross Wilson,

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Speaker 1: a rookie Mike White who's in who's been in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: but his first start came in twenty twenty one. He

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Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick in twenty eighteen, but he

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Speaker 1: never played in the regular season. So Robert Sala and

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Speaker 1: the staff thought that Joe Flacco would be the best

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Speaker 1: option because what's going to happen against Miami, which we saw,

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Speaker 1: They're going to crowd the box. You're not gonna know

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Speaker 1: who's rushing from where. So Joe Flacco they thought would

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Speaker 1: be the best at identifying the defense and getting the

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Speaker 1: ball out to playmakers. And I think that he did

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Speaker 1: do enough to earn the starting job assuming Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: is not healthy. I mean, it's been a question one

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Speaker 1: whether or not he's healthy to The other thing that

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Speaker 1: Robert Salis talked about is confidence in Zach Wilson, meaning

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Speaker 1: are you confident in your knee that he sprained the

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Speaker 1: PCL sprain against the Patriots about a month ago. Are

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Speaker 1: you confident where you're not second guessing yourself. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to think about like you don't have to think

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Speaker 1: about it. You can just be free. You can go

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Speaker 1: out and play football. What the Jets love about Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 1: dating all the way back to the pre draft process,

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Speaker 1: was his ability to create off platforms, So when things

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Speaker 1: break down, he can go out outside of the pocket.

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Speaker 1: He can make something happen. And we saw that when

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Speaker 1: the Jets beat the Titans ironically at MetLife Stadium. But

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Speaker 1: is he confident in the knee? I think Robert Salo

646
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: last week said structurally, the kne's getting in a good place.

647
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Speaker 1: They worked him out pregame before they took on the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: They're working him out Monday Tuesday, and then they'll determine

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Speaker 1: whether or not Zach Wilson will be healthy enough to

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Speaker 1: return against the Texans. Yeah, Zach Wilson, you know, obviously

651
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Speaker 1: you got to see a little bit of him early

652
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Speaker 1: on before the knee injury. What did you like about

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Speaker 1: what you saw on him? And where does he really

654
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Speaker 1: need to improve? But was there anything about his performance

655
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Speaker 1: that really stood out to you when you look back

656
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Speaker 1: on it. I'll start with something that I think he

657
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Speaker 1: and everybody else in the organization would say he needed

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Speaker 1: to do to take a step as a rookie. And

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Speaker 1: that's as Robert Sala says, and I'm putting up air quotes,

660
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Speaker 1: play boring football. So what does that exactly mean. It

661
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Speaker 1: means you don't have to make the splash play all

662
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Speaker 1: the time. You can just check down and whenever the

663
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Speaker 1: receiver's open, even though it might be a little check

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Speaker 1: down or running back, just give him the ball. Let

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Speaker 1: your playmakers do their thing after the catch. And we

666
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: saw that actually when the Jets beat the Bengals with

667
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Speaker 1: Mike White, when he threw for over four hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: He just took what the defense gave him. I think,

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Speaker 1: and Zach Wilson spoke to the media after that game

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Speaker 1: and he said, that's something that I can do better,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that I think he will do better

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Speaker 1: when he does return. And what's caught my eye. I mean, one,

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Speaker 1: he's mobile. Two he's a first year captain, right, He's

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Speaker 1: a number two overall pick. And remember there was a

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Speaker 1: whole debacle was he a captain at BUYU his senior year?

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Speaker 1: Was he not? No one knew what to make of it. Well,

677
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: he was a captain from day one for the Jets,

678
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Speaker 1: and the locker room really rallies around him. And not

679
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: to mention just the arm talent. I mean Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: against Tennessee. The throw that stood out to me is

681
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: he rolls out right, he just kind of flicks the

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Speaker 1: ball on the run. It goes fifty plus yards in

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Speaker 1: the air to Keelan Cole and that was a game

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Speaker 1: change play for the Jets at that time. Later on

685
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Speaker 1: in the game, Zach Wilson takes him off the fastball

686
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Speaker 1: and he throws kind of a lab past to Keelan

687
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Speaker 1: Cole again on a third and two crunch time playing overtime.

688
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Speaker 1: That's set up the Jets to win. So I think

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson has all the tools right. We saw that

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Speaker 1: in the pre draft process. It was evident in training camp,

691
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Speaker 1: it was evident in the first part of the season.

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Speaker 1: The biggest step for him is just going to be

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Speaker 1: playing within the system, which will then allow him to

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Speaker 1: make plays outside of the structure and make those chunk

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Speaker 1: games down the field. Right, One more quarterback question and

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Speaker 1: then I'll move on. But what about Mike White? He

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Speaker 1: was such a fan favorite through four over four hundred

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Speaker 1: yards in his first start and then it gets benched

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Speaker 1: after throwing a bunch of interceptions against Buffalo. Have we

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Speaker 1: seen the last of him this year? Do you see

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Speaker 1: any situation where Mike White takes the field again. It

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Speaker 1: seemed like there was a lot of excitement around his

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Speaker 1: performance early on. Well, the Jets are very bullish on

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Speaker 1: Mike White. And whether or not that means start as

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Speaker 1: a starter down the road, like with the Jets, if

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Speaker 1: injury presents themselves, whether that means as a backup, I

707
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Speaker 1: think that's to be determined. But Robert Salo was very

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Speaker 1: clear that the Jets very much believed in Mike White

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback. They very much believe believe in him

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Speaker 1: as a person. And you saw the reaction you kind

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Speaker 1: of mentioned it. The players really rally around Mike White,

712
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Speaker 1: kind of like they rally around Zack Wilson. And the

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Speaker 1: Bengals game was amazing, right, And I think when he

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Speaker 1: played against Indianapolis. The Jets go three and out his

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Speaker 1: second drive, he comes in the game again, he leads

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Speaker 1: the Jets down the field. And this was a primetime game.

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Speaker 1: So everyone is really like, oh, what is Mike White?

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Speaker 1: First of all, who is he? Second of all, what

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Speaker 1: is he? Is he a good player? Was it a

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Speaker 1: flash in the pan against the Bengals? And we didn't

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Speaker 1: really get the answer to that because he only played

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Speaker 1: two drives. Then what happens against Buffalo? Obviously to your point,

723
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Speaker 1: he throws four interceptions and then he plays or then

724
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Speaker 1: the Jets have the Dolphins that offer a complex look

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Speaker 1: on defense. And the Jets brought in Joe Flacco for

726
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Speaker 1: a reason. They traded for him before the dead line,

727
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Speaker 1: and they wanted a veteran presence in this room, one

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Speaker 1: to four guys like Mike White and Zach Wilson two

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Speaker 1: for situations to give them a chance to win on Sundays.

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Speaker 1: And that's why Joe Flacco was in the game this

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Speaker 1: past Sunday. So I don't think we've seen the last

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Speaker 1: of Mike White. But to what extent I think that's

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Speaker 1: that's like kind of a Chris An eight ball question, right,

734
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Speaker 1: Like where you gotta shake it up and you gotta

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Speaker 1: look in the future. And I think that's tough to

736
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Speaker 1: tell because I think that the Jets really do like

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Speaker 1: Mike White. But obviously Zach Wilson is the future of

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Speaker 1: this franchise and he was drafted at number two overall

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Speaker 1: for a reason. All Right, you mentioned wide receiver Elijah More,

740
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Speaker 1: the rookie. He's had five touchdowns in five games and

741
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Speaker 1: just off to a tremendous starting a matter of really

742
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Speaker 1: who's throwing him the ball, no matter who's under cinemat quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But for people that I haven't seen much of More,

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Speaker 1: what does they do well in that passing game? What

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Speaker 1: really are some of his attributes as a receiver. His

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Speaker 1: best attribute is just getting open. He's really quick and

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Speaker 1: when you when you see him right, he's not your

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00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: I would a stereotypical six to four, two hundred twenty

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Speaker 1: pound wide receiver that just he's gonna body people on

750
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Speaker 1: the outside. That's not his game. His game is he

751
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: gets open in tight windows, he makes you miss, and

752
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: he's got speed to burn. He runs a four three forty.

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Speaker 1: The Jets really liked him coming out of All Miss

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Speaker 1: and actually when they traded up in the first round

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Speaker 1: to draft Elijah Vera Tucker. They were they were obviously

756
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Speaker 1: excited for AVT, but in the back of their minds,

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Speaker 1: they were a little upset because they were thinking, man like,

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Speaker 1: at twenty three, we probably, you know, maybe Elijah would

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Speaker 1: have been on the board at twenty three overall, which

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Speaker 1: is where the Jets were let alone at thirty four

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Speaker 1: where they actually took him in the second round. So

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Speaker 1: the Jets are very excited about him. And he's how

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Speaker 1: did Robert Salad describe him a jitterbug? He's quick, he

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Speaker 1: gets open. I know I've said that a lot, but

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Speaker 1: I think, really what you gotta beware of not only

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Speaker 1: you have to be aware of him getting open on

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Speaker 1: short and intermediate routes and taking it a couple more

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Speaker 1: yards down the field. He also gets open and he

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Speaker 1: gets vertical. I mean, his first training camp reception was

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Speaker 1: a deep pass from Zach Wilson down the sideline, and

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Speaker 1: Elijah Moore got a veteran presence about him, and I

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Speaker 1: think that you really got to watch out for him

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, and if you were to compare his game

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Speaker 1: to somebody, I'm not saying that they're the same player,

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Speaker 1: or they'll have the same career. But this guy was

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00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: a Jet years ago. Santonio Holmes is kind of similar.

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Speaker 1: He's not your biggest receiver, but he's quick, he gets open,

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Speaker 1: and he just makes plays. And so far, that's what

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Speaker 1: Elijah Moore has been for the Jets, all right. When

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Speaker 1: the Jets hired Roberts sal I think there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of expectation that the defense would get better, and certainly,

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Speaker 1: as Texans fans and people here know, he was with

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Speaker 1: the Texans for a number of years on the coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: So with that being said, the Jets defense is giving

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00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: up four hundred and fourteen yards on average, and they're

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Speaker 1: giving up elite high of thirty two points a game.

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Speaker 1: So what is the biggest issue that's really ailing this

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Speaker 1: Jets defense this year? Is it just a lot of

789
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Speaker 1: young players? Is it Chemist Tree? You know, is there

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00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: one or two things that you can really point your

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00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: finger to as to why this defense is really struggling

792
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: this year? Well, the defense took a step in the

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Speaker 1: right direction against the Dolphins, but before that, I mean

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Speaker 1: after the bye week, the Jets were allowing an average

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00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: of forty five points per game, and I think the

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00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: biggest thing, which anybody will tell you, is in this

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Speaker 1: defense that is coached or coordinated by Jeff Albrick and

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Speaker 1: obviously Robert it has Robert Sala influences weave throughout. It's

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Speaker 1: really limiting the explosive plays. And that's what broke the

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Speaker 1: Jets this past Sunday against the Dolphins. Macollins had a

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00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: sixty five yard touchdown. The Dolphins go up fourteen to seven.

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Speaker 1: They never regained the lead, meaning the Jets. So really

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Speaker 1: that's the focal point for this Jets defense is limit

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Speaker 1: explosive plays. And what the defense defines as an explosive

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Speaker 1: play is passing plays that go I believe over seventeen

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Speaker 1: yards or twenty yards, and rushes that go over twelve

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Speaker 1: to fifteen. So those are really the focal points for

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00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: the Jets defense, and the Jets lately have not been

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00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: great against the run. The defensive line is the strength

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Speaker 1: of this group there, it's strength in numbers, it's strengthened personnel,

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Speaker 1: obviously led by Quinnin Williams. Then you think about guys

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Speaker 1: like Sheldon Franklin's John Franklin Meyers one guy that I

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Speaker 1: have my eye on. He's on injured reserve right now,

814
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Speaker 1: but Bryce Huff was expected to return against the Texans.

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Speaker 1: We'll see whether or not that actually happens. The Jets

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00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: like him a lot. He's a second year player out

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00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: of Memphis who was undrafted last season. So I think

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Speaker 1: that stopping the run and limitating explosive plays, those would

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Speaker 1: be the two areas where I think, and also where C. J. Mosley,

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00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: who was one of the captains of this team, said,

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Speaker 1: those are the two areas where the Jets need to

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Speaker 1: really tighten the screws and then they'll be able to

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Speaker 1: play a little more free. All Right, we get back,

824
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Speaker 1: we'll go around the NFL. A few news items we

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Speaker 1: need to hit. We'll do that next to Texans Alexis.

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Speaker 1: I know it's Thanksgiving week and week end and there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of turkey eating, but I'm going

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Speaker 1: to encourage you at some point get on over to

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Speaker 1: see my friends at Freddie's Frozen Custard and Steak Burgers.

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Speaker 1: Freddie's is all about the good in creating more of it.

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Speaker 1: More drive through celebrations, more road trips around the block,

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Speaker 1: more family dinners and lunches, more car picnics and desserts,

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Speaker 1: maybe even more second desserts, more being together as much

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Speaker 1: as we can. With seventeen area locations in the Houston area,

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Speaker 1: Freddie's keeps the good going with the taste that brings

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Speaker 1: you back. I know they will see me during this

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving holiday season for sure. And who am? I'm John

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Speaker 1: Harris Football. I know side on Report and your host

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Speaker 1: for this evening. I mention we get to some news

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Speaker 1: from around the NFL. Let's keep it with two teams

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00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: that are gonna face each other on Sunday, that being

842
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: the Texans and the New York Jets. And look at

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00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: the injury report from both sides. Now, the Texans had

844
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Speaker 1: four players that did not participate too, not injury related,

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Speaker 1: I guess his rest Dana Amadola, Brandon Cooks. And then

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Speaker 1: two with illness dave On Davis, Lonnie Johnson. They were

847
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Speaker 1: DMPs today at practice. Also in the limited category, Rex Birkhead,

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Speaker 1: not injury related, hoping that's just a rest day for Rex.

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Speaker 1: Also limited Jonathan Grenard with the foot, Commed Grugier Hill

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Speaker 1: with the knee, and aj Moore with the back. And

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Speaker 1: when I saw commo On there, I was like, wait

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Speaker 1: what And then I remembered in the game against Tennessee

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Speaker 1: early on he kind of was a little a little

854
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: gimpy at one point coming off, like there was a

855
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: little hitch in his giddy up, and I thought, oh no,

856
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: Now he played through it was okay. But obviously over

857
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: time the weekend a few days, maybe some sortness sets in,

858
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: maybe some other things set in. So hopefully Commo is

859
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: gonna be okay to come back and play. And obviously

860
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: we need both Jonathan and aj Moore. Jonathan with a foot,

861
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: a j Moore deal with the back. Hopefully they can

862
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: make it back. Now for the Jets did not participate

863
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: is running back Michael Carter. Rookie running back Michael Carter.

864
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: Now the running back is the key because they also

865
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: have a rookie Michael Carter defensive back. We talked about

866
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: that with Nick Cassario too. It's kind of an odd situation.

867
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: They drafted to Michael Carter's, both of them from the

868
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: State of North Carolina colleges. That is, Michael Carter sprained

869
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: his ankle last week. The thought is that he's gonna

870
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: be out two to four weeks, so they's not gonna play,

871
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: but responsibility of getting him back, so they don't want

872
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: to put him on injured reserve, so he's a DNP.

873
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: Deal with that ankle, limited participants, Corey Davis, deal with

874
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: the groin. Folo Fokasi is with a foot shack loss,

875
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: and deal with a risk. CJ. Mosley has been dealing

876
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: with the shoulder. All I did play last week and

877
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: they did Shepard and elbow. Now, those last four guys

878
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: are key on their front seven. Those guys get after

879
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: it upfront. Everywhere else to her are some question marks.

880
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: There's some big time question marks, especially with the injury

881
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: to Michael Carter at running back, the COVID situation with

882
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: Flacco and with Mike White. The secondary has kind of

883
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: been a revolving door what they have there. But up front, Fatakasi, Lawson,

884
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Nathan Shephard, those guys they can get after it upfront.

885
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Quinny Williams to throw him in the mix, obviously. C J.

886
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: Mosley is the guy who kind of keeps everything together

887
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: in the middle. So keep an eye on those guys.

888
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: My guess is they'll be ready to go on Sunday,

889
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: but worth keep an eye on because they are on

890
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: the injury report. Note doubt. All right, it's a Wednesday,

891
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: so it means a little where are they now? So

892
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: let's talk to Glover Quinn who chatted with Drew Doherty.

893
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: That's coming up next right here in Texans All Access.

894
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: We got one hour down, one hour left to go.

895
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: Right here on Texans All Access, a Wednesday edition. I'm

896
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: your host, John Harris, football Analyst, and I want to

897
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: remind you to register kids ages twelve one hundred to

898
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: become a Toro's Kids Club member for free f r

899
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: EE and submit their holiday wish list for their chance

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Speaker 1: to be granted at least one item off their list

901
00:42:54,840 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: from Santa Toro. Learn more at Houston Texans Dot Santa

902
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: Toro better be good to his pal, John Harris. I

903
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: know that now, Santa Toro. I know you're listening. A

904
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 1: win against the Jets on Sunday. That's my wish list.

905
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Can you make that happen? I certainly hope that you can. Now,

906
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: the Texans gotta win last week and back in the

907
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: O nine, ten, eleven, twelve years, the Texans got a

908
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: lot of good wins. And they got a lot of

909
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: those good wins with the help of a young man

910
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: who played safety for them at the time. Turned himself

911
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: into a really good safety, moved on to Detroit, got

912
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. His name is Glover Quinn. He

913
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: sat down with Drew Doherty a little Wednesday. Where are

914
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: they now? With Drew Doherty? It's Glover Quinn. Get ready, folks,

915
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: we got a good one. This is a where are

916
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: they now? Featuring former Houston Texans defensive back and a

917
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: Pro bowler in the NFL. Glover Quinn. One of your

918
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: nicknames was GQ. Glover. It's great to be with you, man.

919
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: Where are you these days? What's going on? Man? What's good? Man?

920
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm in the city. Man, I'm in Houston. Well, I'm

921
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: kind of outside of the city. I live out in

922
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: the rich in the Rosenberg area, But yeah, man, I'm here.

923
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm in Texas. What are you doing these days? You

924
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: know sometimes when people ask me that question, I kind

925
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: of respond with, like, man, I kind of do whatever

926
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: I want to do right now. But to be a

927
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: little more specifically, I'm coaching my son sixth grade football team,

928
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: and so I'm doing that and being a full time

929
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: parent dad. You know, I'm taking photos. I've really gotten

930
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: into that. I love I love taking photos. That's about it. Yeah,

931
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: And you say this all very casually, but you're not

932
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: a casual football coach, because as we were setting the

933
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: shot up, you had game film onto the brand. You're

934
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: breaking down film, man, Like, how serious do you take it?

935
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: It's hard not to take the same approaches as I

936
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: had when I was playing him. I watched film for

937
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: so many years, and you learned so much when you

938
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: watch the film. You know, there's so many things that

939
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: happened that you really don't know in the game. And

940
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: so for me, I record all of our games. You know,

941
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: I'm coaching and recording at the same time. That's the

942
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: biggest thing for me is you know, yeah, you want

943
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: to win, but I've told our guys that I'm more

944
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: concerned about them than good football players in the future.

945
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's fun to hear this. I've done this

946
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: this interview now a lot of your former teammates, you know,

947
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: And then we talk about other former teammates that I

948
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to catch up with. But you

949
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: Joel Dreeson, Kevin Walter, Brian Cushing, and I know there's others,

950
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: but those are the ones that I know for sure.

951
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: Y'all are all coaching. You know, some of it's flag football.

952
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: You're you're coaching some tackle football. It's November now, and

953
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: you said off camera, you guys are in the playoffs.

954
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: How much growth have you seen from when you guys started?

955
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: Probably in August early September, Because I mean, I've got

956
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: kids too, and they play soccer, they play flag football,

957
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: and it's amazing what they can do now versus you know,

958
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: they could barely line up in the summertime. Oh man,

959
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: oh man, is light years. So to see these guys now,

960
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: the way they're playing is light years. It's night and day.

961
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: And it's actually really fun to watch him play. That's great.

962
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: Happy for you, man, that's awesome to hear. All Right,

963
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: let's go back light years in your life. Let's go Okay,

964
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: you're a McComb, Mississippi native. That's home now. Houston's a

965
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: second home or you know, if you're home now, right,

966
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: But before you get to the University of New Mexico,

967
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: you have a stop at junior college. Now. I've talked

968
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: about junior college ball with Zach Dles when I did

969
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: this about a month ago, and we've heard Jonathan Joseph

970
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: talk about what he gained from playing juco ball and

971
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: Jjo said, if you can make it out of a

972
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: junior college and go on and play, you know, D

973
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: one school and then make it to the NFL, you

974
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: are made of steel. Basically, what did you take from

975
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: your junior college experience? Because Zach had a great, great

976
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: story or two or three as well, I'm sure you've

977
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: got a zillion. I mean, Juco ball is tough, you know.

978
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if people have watched it.

979
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: You know, they got the series on Netflix, Last Chance

980
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: you stuff. I mean, that's that's real life. That that

981
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: is real life when it comes to juco ball. And

982
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: like what all the other guys said, if you can

983
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: make it out of juco, you know, you can definitely

984
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: give yourself a shot because it's difficult and it's so

985
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: competitive and it's so cutthroat because you only have those

986
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: two years, you know, building good teams. It's tough because

987
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: you got new guys every year, right and then, like

988
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: I said, you're trying to get out of there. They're

989
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: trying to come in and get out, So the coaches

990
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: are making it very difficult so they can weed through guys.

991
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: And you know, the conditions of living aren't great, you know,

992
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: you're living in dorms, and you know, it's just it's

993
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: just not great. You see some real life stories and

994
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: Juco guys that are really talented but can't put it

995
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: all together, but they get so many opportunities because they're

996
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: super talented. You see the guys who are, you know,

997
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: not as talented, but they know how to play, and

998
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, they find the way to make things happen.

999
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: But you know, when I was in Jude, call all

1000
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: the guys, you know, they used to always ask me,

1001
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: like why I was in Juco. They used to always say, man,

1002
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: you're a d one player. Man, why you were in Jude.

1003
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: They thought I didn't have grades. I was like, nah, dude,

1004
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: I was actually pretty smart. You know, I had grades.

1005
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: I just didn't get recruited like that of high school.

1006
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: I didn't go to big high school. I was getting

1007
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: recruited pretty hard by Mississippi State. I was pretty so

1008
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to go there. That was the year that

1009
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: Jackie Cheryl left and so Vester Chrome came man, so

1010
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: Crome staff didn't recruit me, and so I didn't get

1011
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: to go there. You kind of got called limbo basically,

1012
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: huh yeah, I kind of got calling that in that limbo. Yeah,

1013
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: how'd you get to New Mexico from there? Because I

1014
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: mean you talked about the different types of guys. You

1015
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: were clearly the guy who had the talent, but you

1016
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: also had the nowhere to be know what to do aspect,

1017
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: I imagine you were a pretty attractive recruit. What made

1018
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: you choose the Lobos though? So from the University of

1019
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: New Mexico. You know, they're in the Mountain West and

1020
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, back when I was at the University of

1021
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: New Mexico, the Mountain West high schools like BYU was

1022
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: in our conference, Utah was in our conference. TCU was

1023
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: in our conference, some of those bigger, tougher schools, right,

1024
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: and so New Mexico kind of in the middle. Right,

1025
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: you're in between Texas and Arizona, California. The major recruits

1026
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: in those areas they're going to go to, you know,

1027
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: some of the bigger school They really had to focus

1028
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: on Mississippi Juco, Mississippi Kansas JUCO because they needed players

1029
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: that could come in now and be ready to play.

1030
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: That's kind of how the Juco came on their radar

1031
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: when they came down to Southwest my year. They had

1032
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: just had three corners that were seniors. They were in

1033
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: need for a corner. Like I said, I was a

1034
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: qualifier out of high school, right, so I could leave

1035
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: anytime May year. But I also was graduating play and

1036
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: they didn't have to worry about anything academically with you too,

1037
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: like right, you know, I guess I checked all the

1038
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: boxes that they that they needed me to check. That

1039
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: was the only one I had. I went out there

1040
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: on a visit. The visit was cool, The city was cool.

1041
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I ain't even know this place

1042
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: existed out here. You know what I'm saying. Oh, it's

1043
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: different than Mississippi. That's it's different than anything else. Yeah,

1044
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Yeah, but it was super cool. Man.

1045
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: We started this off. So you're a decade in the NFL.

1046
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: You played safety in the NFL. But you just mentioned, Hey,

1047
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: I was playing corner, and you played two years of

1048
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: corner in the night. You were a darn good cornerback.

1049
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: You were good enough to get drafted in the fourth

1050
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: round as a cornerback by the Texans. Let's go ahead

1051
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: to draft day or draft weekend rather, what was that

1052
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: like for you? You're in the fourth round, so you

1053
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: gotta know, Hey, I'm somebody's gonna pick me, right, you

1054
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna get picked. And I think as

1055
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: a fourth rounder, you're probably thinking we should have gone

1056
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: in the first, the second, third, you should have got

1057
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: higher because everybody's like that, right, I mean, what was

1058
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: that whole weekend experience like for you? You know? I

1059
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: heard everything from late second to six or seven. A

1060
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: lot of people questioned my speed, can I run? And

1061
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: can I play corner in the NFL? And a lot

1062
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: of people felt like I was a tweeter. They didn't.

1063
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: It was like, he's a corner, but I think he's

1064
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: a safety as he you know. So, But I had

1065
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: heard all types of stuff. I've heard certain teams that

1066
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: ran the cover two scheme and thought I could be

1067
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: a Cover two corner and all these different things. So

1068
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: I only had one private workout with New England and

1069
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: Cassario came and worked us out. He was throwing the ball. Yeah,

1070
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: he worked He worked me in out of the corner

1071
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: at the University of New Mexico. And I had one

1072
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: official visit Atlanta Falcons. When out there with a bunch

1073
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: of with a bunch of guys, Atlanta actually drafted a

1074
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: bunch of the guys that was on the visit with me,

1075
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: and I han't really heard anything from Houston. Parry Carter

1076
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: was a coach obviously when I got there. And so

1077
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: Parry is from the same area that I'm from. So

1078
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: he's from Magnolia. I'm from some McComas, kind of the middle.

1079
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: I was born in mccollins to the hospital. It's a

1080
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: small town, saw basically right there together. Parry used to

1081
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: call me every now and then and just see what

1082
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: I was doing, asking me if I was, you know,

1083
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: they took me, would I'd be, you know, scared, all

1084
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: these type of things, you know what I'm saying. But

1085
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: I didn't really. I didn't have any conversations or anything

1086
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: with the Texas at the combine, at East West Game

1087
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: and the East West Game were actually in Houston that year.

1088
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, So that Saturday we had a you know,

1089
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: family gathering, a lot of people came out, you know,

1090
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: and I think on that Saturday was only doing first,

1091
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: second and third round that year, and so I knew

1092
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: it would be a loan shot for the first day.

1093
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have any first round projections and

1094
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: I only had like saw a couple of articles that,

1095
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, second round. So we did like the family

1096
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: gathering on that Saturday, go to bed, I watched it.

1097
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: I watched the draft up to that. At the end,

1098
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: and Sunday morning, you know, I wake up, I couldn't

1099
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: go to sleep, got on the video game, and so

1100
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: then the draft comes and so now I'm watching the draft.

1101
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: I go to the third round, and so the Texans

1102
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: make their pick in the third round. I think they

1103
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: drafted Antoine Calwell in the third round. And so after

1104
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: they drafted him, you know, I get a call from

1105
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: Perry Carter. He's like, what's up, man, and you know,

1106
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: here just talking to me and Perry. For those who

1107
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: don't remember, Perry was the assistant dB coach. Yeah, Gibbs was.

1108
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: Gibbs was the defensive backs coach. Perry was there. Ray

1109
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: Roads was holding out. Yeah, Perry and Ray Roads were

1110
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: really tight. Yeah. Ray Roads, of course, you know, he's

1111
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: been around forever, knows everything. Yeah yeah, great, it's forgotten

1112
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: more football than most of us will ever know. Yeah.

1113
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: And so so Perry calls me, and you know, he's

1114
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: asked me all the types of question, asked me if

1115
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: I was healthy and all this stuff. Hey, man, if

1116
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: we draft you now, you ain't gonna be scared to

1117
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: come in and like, you know, compete and cover guys

1118
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: like Andre and you know, you ain't gonna be starstruck

1119
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I'm like, nah, man, I'm ready

1120
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: to go pee. Like you know, we're thinking about taking

1121
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: you with our fourth round pick. And this was right

1122
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: after they had had their third round picks, and I'm

1123
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: just like, all right, cool man. So that I got,

1124
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: now I gotta wait a whole nother round. Get out

1125
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: the fall. I was told my people, yeah, that was

1126
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: a Texans, you know, he said they said they was

1127
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: thinking about taking look at forethround pick. And so we're

1128
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: sitting there. It was me, my dad, my sister, best friend,

1129
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: my girlfriend. The third round go by it. And I

1130
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: didn't hear from any other teams, Like, nobody called me,

1131
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: nobody said anything. Had the pick start coming up, I

1132
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: was like, okay, the Texans got the one twelfth pick

1133
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, and they got one hundred

1134
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: twenty second pick. I'm like, oh, heck, man, I got

1135
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: two picks in the foreth round. I'm like, man, I

1136
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: hope they take me with the first one. Like I'm

1137
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: tired of sitting here. Wait. And so now the Texans

1138
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: are on the clock. And I hadn't heard nothing else

1139
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: from the Texas since I was like, oh, heck, he's

1140
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: probably gonna be the one hundred twenty second pick. And

1141
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: my phone started going off and I look at it

1142
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: and it was like an eighty three two number. I

1143
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: was like, old snap, So I answered and it was

1144
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: Brian Gardner was high up in the scouting for me. Yeah,

1145
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: he called me and told me that they wanted that

1146
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: they were going to drafted me in the in the

1147
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: in the with their one hundred and twelve pick, and

1148
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: I was just a celebration basically. Yeah, it's a huge celebration,

1149
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: you know. I get on the phone, Gary Koby, I

1150
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: get on the phone. I think Frank Bush to decordinated

1151
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: here on the phone. But I'm on the phone with them,

1152
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: and I'm still trying to look at the TV so

1153
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: I can actually see it happen, see my name on

1154
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: the TV, because they weren't I don't think they were

1155
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: announcing the fourth round picks at that time. You know,

1156
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: they just kind of flashed the pick is in and

1157
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: the kind of flash at the bottom, and so I

1158
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: saw my name and this, you know, celebration at my house,

1159
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: and I literally remember nothing that they said on the phone.

1160
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't remember one single thing that they said. You're

1161
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: too happy. But I was happy, you know, I was

1162
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: happy I got drafted to Houston. I actually loved the

1163
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: city of Houston even before I got drafted here because

1164
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: I used to come out here a lot as a

1165
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: kid to go to Ashtroll's games. Okay, and so I

1166
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: fell in love with the city already, and I already

1167
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: who was your favorite Astros player when you come to

1168
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: those games? Oh? I was a Craig Bgo and Jeff

1169
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: Bagwell all right, all right, so yeah, yeah, yeah, those

1170
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: are my guys. Good good ones to have Hall of famers,

1171
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, and so yeah, So when I

1172
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: got drafted, it was just kind of like, wow, this

1173
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: is a match made in heaven. I already wanted to

1174
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: be out here and I got drafted, so it was cool.

1175
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: And so then it just was crazy from then on out.

1176
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 1: A bunch of phone calls, radio interviews, people just blowing

1177
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: my phone up all day. Coach Kubiak didn't uh, he

1178
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: didn't do rookie minicamps. He didn't he didn't believe in

1179
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: the rooky minic camps, which I I really do like

1180
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: his approach. So when I came out, it was ot eighties,

1181
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: so I got drafted April or twenties. Threw you right

1182
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: into the fire. Yeah, So what was that like when

1183
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: you get to OTA's and you gotta line up and

1184
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: you gotta cover somebody? Like, did you have to light

1185
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: up and cover Andre Johnson or me Today Jones? The

1186
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: first day, the very first day. Because the Texans drafted

1187
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: me to be the nickel cornerback. They didn't draft me

1188
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: to be like an outside guy, right. They draft me

1189
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: to be the inside guy because they like, you know,

1190
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: my physical ability, knew I could tackle all those different things, right,

1191
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: So that's what they wanted me to play. But I

1192
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: didn't play on the inside in college. So when I

1193
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: got to Houston, you know, we get there on that Sunday, right,

1194
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: So then we had rookie meetings and so coaches coach

1195
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: Gilbs is trying to like install some of the defense.

1196
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: So we could kind of have an idea because we

1197
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: had practice on Monday. We had physical Sunday night, and

1198
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: we had practice on Monday OTAs and so we go

1199
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn some of this stuff. And so

1200
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: the first day, the very first day, you know, I

1201
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: go out there. They had me starting at the nickel

1202
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: So when they called nickel defense, I'm literally running out

1203
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: there on the field. I'm lined up in front of

1204
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson. The craziest thing ever, man, right, nads though

1205
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: it's tail Manson T shirts. Yeah, but all I could

1206
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: remember when I'm lined up on Andre, it's Perry Carter

1207
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: Bend Like have you ain't gonna be scared if you

1208
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: got to line up against Andre Johnson, right you go.

1209
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there the whole time, just like, oh, man,

1210
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I gotta like. But I didn't even

1211
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: really know the play. I didn't really know what I

1212
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: was doing. I had never played on the inside at all, man,

1213
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: So needs to say. My first day of practice really

1214
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: wasn't very good. And you got Andre. You got Andre

1215
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: at his absolute peak, I mean nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

1216
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: that's when he was. Yeah, unbelievable, Yeah, unbelievable. Yeah, my

1217
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: first my first day of practice really really wasn't very

1218
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: good on the inside, and I was lost. I was

1219
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: spent around. I was like, man, it was moving crazy.

1220
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: Glover brings up a really interesting point, and I think

1221
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: it's one that a lot of times I have to

1222
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: step back myself when I start doing draft analysis and

1223
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about guys. Oh yeah, I think this guy

1224
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: could transition inside, no problem, etc. Man, it's a whole

1225
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: different world making a position transition. Whether you're going from

1226
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: guard to center or from guard to tackle, or you're

1227
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: going from outside corner to inside slot, you're going from

1228
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: safety to corner, corner to safety. You're making some sort

1229
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: of position transition. Man, it's not as easy as everybody

1230
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: wants to say it is. And Lonnie Johnson's gone through

1231
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: that and it's not very easy. Now. Glover Quinn did

1232
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: make those adjustments, but he eventually moved back to safety

1233
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: and became a really good safety in his time in

1234
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. We got more with Glover coming up next

1235
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. We're gonna get right back to

1236
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: it with Glover Quinn, who is nice enough to Joy

1237
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: and Drew Doherty to give us a little where are

1238
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: they now and what he's doing and talking about his

1239
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: time with the Texans, etc. And we're gonna get that

1240
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: in just a second. But a reminder that my friends

1241
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Speaker 1: So i's dream big experience to enter to win. That's

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Speaker 1: a big one. That is a massive one. A big

1247
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: thanks to our friends over at Mattress from the official

1248
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: Mattress retailer of your Houston Texans. All right, let's get

1249
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: back to the conversation. Where are they now? Drew Doherty

1250
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: and Glover Quinn former Texans safety as he tells us

1251
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: what the first few days of OTAs were like, playing

1252
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: on both the inside and the outside. Glover, OTAs turned

1253
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: around for him. I made a bunch of plays I

1254
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: think I called. I think I caught three picks and

1255
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: like the first two or three days, you know, because

1256
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: I was catching picks on the outside, yeah, as a

1257
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: as a corn on the inside. On the inside I

1258
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: was playing off, but on the outside I was catching

1259
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: picks and I think I end up catching like five

1260
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: picks and those OTAs. It was an interesting year. Two

1261
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, you know, the team finally wins nine

1262
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: games for the first time. Defensively, it was a bit

1263
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: of a struggle there early. Some things got kind of

1264
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: jiggled and fixed and had a good, good rest of

1265
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: the season and then ten. You know, it was it

1266
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: was tough, but you were clearly a building block. You

1267
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: were clearly somebody that could play and was going to

1268
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: contribute to this team. What was oh nine like as

1269
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: a whole for you because you're bringing up OTAs and

1270
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: seeing Andrea Johnson for the first time. But you get

1271
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: some picks that season. I mean, you help that defense

1272
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: do some pretty good things, and you help the team

1273
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: as a whole. Yeah, oh nine was was was really crazy, man,

1274
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: because like I said, I think back to think back

1275
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: to opening day. You know, we're playing of Jets. Yeah,

1276
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: and we got beat. I was on the inside. I

1277
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: think I played seventeen played that game, and it was

1278
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: tough in there. Came back week two, we played Tennessee Titans.

1279
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest games I've ever seen. I mean,

1280
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: you guys down there physically, you fist fought, you fought them,

1281
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean, and it went back and forth. It was

1282
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: a great. Game went down and we won, but we

1283
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: didn't play like great. You know. I think Chris Johnson

1284
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: had a couple of like ninety eight ninety two yard

1285
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: touchdown runs and there were a couple of plays where

1286
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: you're nobody was even guarding yet and I'm not saying

1287
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: it was your guy to guard, you know, but he

1288
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: was just out there and like they Yeah. Anyways, but

1289
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: I had played pretty solid in the inside, right, So

1290
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: then we came back to third week against Jacksonville was

1291
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: a little differently. Played nine plays that game. I got

1292
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: that start against Oakland in week four. You know, Oakland

1293
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: had just drafted Darius Hayward bay fastest guy in the

1294
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: in the comebine. They had JaMarcus Russell from I think

1295
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: the year before quarterback that can throw at the fartest. Yeah,

1296
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: and that's why they matched me up on Darius Hayward base.

1297
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm going into that game like, okay, I'm just slow

1298
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: fat dB mashed up against this fast, the fastest guy

1299
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: at corner with the big arm, Jamaicas Russels. I said,

1300
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I know I can tackle. I'm not

1301
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: gonna let him run past men and catch a deep ball.

1302
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: I think he might have had two catches for like

1303
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty yards that game. Look curl routes. I had like

1304
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: seven tackles, like two TFLs, a couple of big hits,

1305
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like playing my responsive build

1306
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: exactly how you know I was supposed to, and boom.

1307
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: It just went from there. The next week playing Arizona,

1308
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: I think we went out there, man, Jock was kind

1309
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: of rotating a little bit. I will start, but Jock

1310
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: would come in and then I would go back in.

1311
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: And then I think after we played Cincinnati, they was like, hey,

1312
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: you starting all the time? Yeah, And that was it.

1313
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: You know, it was a crazy year. We ended up

1314
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: I think it was five and seven at one point. Well, yeah,

1315
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: because you got you guys go up to this Halloween weekend,

1316
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: you go up to Buffalo, you'll win. You got to

1317
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: five and three, and you're going to the buy five

1318
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: and three, and then you guys come out of the buy,

1319
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: you lose four and then you win from the final

1320
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: four and Arian Foster emerges at the end of the season. Yeah,

1321
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: it was. It was a bananas bananas season for sure,

1322
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: And like you win on that final day and it's

1323
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: a new game and the game's over. You guys still

1324
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: are technically in playoff position, like if some stuff falls

1325
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: y'all's way. It was a fun season and then the

1326
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: next year you start the whole way through. You play solid,

1327
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: But it was a tough year for the defense. I

1328
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: mean it just you lose all those games. What was

1329
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: it like in eleven when Wade comes in and moves

1330
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: you from your solid corner but moves you to a

1331
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: position in which you would wind up just flourishing. I mean, gosh, Glover,

1332
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: you finish your career with twenty four interceptions, it's a lot.

1333
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: What was it like when he comes in and makes

1334
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: that change for you? How? How excited were you? How

1335
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: cautious were you? What did it? What was that like?

1336
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean I was excited because I always had the

1337
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: personality of a safety. Yeah. Safeties are the guys on

1338
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: the field that make the calls that communicate. Corners don't

1339
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: really make calls. Corners just kind of covered guys. They

1340
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: don't really get some of them that are smart, but

1341
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: a lot of corners don't really know a lot or

1342
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: care about a lot. They just know, Hey, I'm in

1343
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: man and man, Hey I'm in Cover three, I'm in

1344
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: cover to it, right, they don't have a ton of stuff,

1345
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: but safeties, you know, they're they're the ones making all

1346
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: the just mans. They're making the calls, they're getting everybody

1347
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: lined up. And I always had that personality so when

1348
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 1: I was even when I was at corner, I would

1349
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: want to make calls, but I couldn't because when I

1350
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: was young and for two, I wasn't the safety. So

1351
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: I would be like looking at the safety, like, bro,

1352
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna make this call? Like you want to see

1353
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: this right? Like can you not see what I'm seeing

1354
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: right now? Make the call? I'm tough. Was that that

1355
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: was tough. It was tough with Wade coming in. You know,

1356
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like it was also an even

1357
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: playing field, right, we were all learning the defense. It

1358
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: wasn't like somebody had been there and knew the system

1359
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: more than me. So I kind of felt like it

1360
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: was it was even playing field. We had the lockout

1361
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: that year, and so we were able to meet with

1362
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: Wading them advancing all those guys before the lockout, get

1363
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: some information so that we couldn't like start. You know,

1364
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: we used to have like team functions. Well, we would

1365
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: get together at Rice and like you know, shoping to

1366
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: me going all those guys and we would kind of

1367
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: go through our own We're going to go through our

1368
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: own like OTAs and stuff without the coaches that was

1369
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: in the lockout year, you know. Once the lockout was

1370
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: over with, I think we had dropped J. J. Watt

1371
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: and they signed Jonathan Joseph that year and they signed

1372
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: Dan yeah Mann in that year. Yeah, and so we

1373
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: come that those guys didn't show up until a training camp,

1374
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: but they had to miss a couple of days training

1375
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: camp because the deals and stuff didn't get finalized until

1376
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: because of the lockout, right, and we were just kind

1377
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: of learning it right and wage system was pretty cool.

1378
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: It was kind of easy. And Vance was a great

1379
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: coach and teacher's Vance is the clearest communicator as far

1380
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: as coaches that I've ever killed her. And there's been

1381
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: a lot of great communicators yet, but he's been the clearest.

1382
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean, do you you kind of agree with that idea? Yeah?

1383
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: Vance was. Vance was amazed. I was like, I learned

1384
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: so much in my career from those two years with

1385
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: Vance and that I took with me for the rest

1386
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: of my career and coupled it with you know, some

1387
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: of the DV coaches I had in Detroit, like it

1388
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: just you know, propelled my career. But it started with Vance.

1389
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: He kind of opened he opened my eyes to a

1390
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: lot of things that we could do in the secondary.

1391
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: But as far as it wasn't Vanila, you make your calls.

1392
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: You got you got different twols in your tool box,

1393
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: and you got to pull them out at the right time.

1394
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: You know, you got to make the call that you think,

1395
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: you know it's going to help you in that situation.

1396
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: And so Vans was really good at that. So I

1397
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: came in my furth year and I felt really good

1398
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: my fourth year. You know, I had a year of

1399
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: safety under my belt. Um, I understood the dime a

1400
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: lot been I understood what they wanted me to do.

1401
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: I was I was in my fourth year. You know,

1402
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: I was making a little more money. I hit my

1403
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: escalators and my contracts. I was feeling good in year four.

1404
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: You know, safety, I was playing well, had made a

1405
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: bunch of plays and made a bunch of plays at

1406
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: the at the dime position. I caught a couple of pigs,

1407
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: forced a couple of pumas, I think, made a cup

1408
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: of sacks. You know, we came our role. I think

1409
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: we were seven and older year six and old something

1410
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: like that. And then we end up you know, we

1411
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: got to beat pretty good Sunday Night by Green Bay. Yeah,

1412
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: but you went to eleven and one, you went to one.

1413
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: Didn't end of the way you want. But we tricked

1414
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: it off. Man, I was talking about that like yesterday.

1415
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: I think we tricked it off those last two games.

1416
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: We only needed to win one to be have home

1417
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: field advantage, and we lost to Minnesota and week set

1418
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,520
Speaker 1: sixteen and then we lost to Indi and we seventeen.

1419
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: And so now we go from a potential one seed

1420
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: to the three seed. And that way, you know, we

1421
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: had we had the home game against Cincinnati, but then

1422
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: we had to go to New England in round two

1423
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: as opposed to being the home team, and would have

1424
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: had to play Baltimore in the second round because Baltimore

1425
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: went to Denver that year in the freezing Cold game, right,

1426
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: but we would have had to play Baltimore and year

1427
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 1: Baltimore was rolling that year they ended up winning it,

1428
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: but earlier in that season we had beat Baltimore like

1429
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: forty something. The cold contus you changed their season, like

1430
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: they had to have meetings after the beating you guys

1431
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: gave them, Yeah, smashed. I mean, so you know, we

1432
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: probably would have felt really confident going into that game

1433
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: at home against Baltimore. That season ends and you wind

1434
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: up signing with the Lions, and in retrospect, I mean,

1435
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: it's you can't argue it's it's one of the big

1436
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: mistakes in Texans franchise histories not getting you back and

1437
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: going the route of Ed Reid. How tough was that

1438
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: for you? Or were you happy to just be going

1439
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: someplace and getting the money in Detroit? But how tough

1440
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: was it to leave some of your teammates behind, a

1441
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: city that you love behind, you still live here, franchise, etc.

1442
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: What was that like for you? It was tough, man.

1443
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 1: It was that that was a hard time for me

1444
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 1: because I really wanted to be here. I wanted to

1445
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: be here, Like I said, I lived at the house here.

1446
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: I love the city, great football city, and so I

1447
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: wanted to stay. And you know, all the way up

1448
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: until you know, I guess for agency. You know what

1449
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: I was hearing from Rick and those guys that they

1450
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: wanted to be back, they just never really came to

1451
01:09:55,400 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: the table, you know, and so I go U. You know,

1452
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: they started doing like the little tempera window I think

1453
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: that year. So as soon as the temperate window opened up,

1454
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: I guess, Detroit calls my agent like twelve h five

1455
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know what I'm saying, and they wanted

1456
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: me to come out on the visit. They wanted me

1457
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: to come in. And I was saying that, like what

1458
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 1: detrot You know, I'm like ground, I don't want creaking

1459
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: go to Detroit like the text I call you guys.

1460
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: And so he was like, well, you know, but he's like, well,

1461
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, we just go out there on the visit.

1462
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you know somebody would see like, hey

1463
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: there's interest from somebody else. Somebody come to an awful

1464
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 1: for you. So I was like all right, man, So

1465
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, they have my ticket schedule. So as soon

1466
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 1: as the as soon as the official free agency opens up,

1467
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: I could get on the flight because I couldn't fly

1468
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: out there beforehand. But as soon as I think four

1469
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern time three o'clock Houston time hit, they called me, boom, Hey,

1470
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: we got your flight. You're leave in Houston at five something.

1471
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: So they had already kind of communicated. I had my

1472
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: bag and stuff packed out, just waiting for the official

1473
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: window to open. So I left, I go to the airport,

1474
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: go to Detroit, and like I said, I had no

1475
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: plans of signing with Detroit lines. You know, I really

1476
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: wanted to sign with Houston. This was kind of a

1477
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 1: move to hope to make Houston come with an offer.

1478
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: But you know, in retrospect, I understood the business of football,

1479
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 1: and I knew it would be tough for them to

1480
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: sign me because they had just paid Jay Joe, they

1481
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 1: had just paid d Man. Kareem was a first rounder.

1482
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: So I'm like, that's a lot of money kind of

1483
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: tied up in a secondary. Yeah, so I kind of

1484
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: knew in order for me to stay, somebody would probably

1485
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: have to go, right. I kind of knew that. And

1486
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: so I get to Detroit. They offered me, you know,

1487
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: a deal, and like I said, I didn't I didn't

1488
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: want to take the deal, you know what I'm saying.

1489
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: I I told my age, I was like, all right, man,

1490
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: So Detroit made an offer when Houston didn't want me,

1491
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: I was like, like it it's a shot to the heart,

1492
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it's like they don't

1493
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: want you Detroit wants me. Major decision. I signed with Detroit,

1494
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: and like I remember coming back home and you know,

1495
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson's good friend of mine. You know, he was

1496
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: at my house when I got there. You know, I

1497
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: was freaking crying and like I'm going I walked through

1498
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: the airport, you know, when I got back to Houston,

1499
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: like I was crying, like I'm freaking probably get an

1500
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 1: emotional right now, because like I said, that was that

1501
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: was just a shot, right, Like, man, they don't even

1502
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: want me, Well, some some people didn't. I mean a

1503
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: lot of people wanted you back. And in history has

1504
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: proven that too. It was the wrong decision. It was

1505
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: the wrong decision. I heard a lot of stories. I've

1506
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 1: heard a lot of stories, and I get it. What

1507
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: they what they you know, I guess they were trying

1508
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: to do because we had made it to the second

1509
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: round the playoffs a couple of years in a row.

1510
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: And from what I heard, they felt like they wanted

1511
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: somebody to help get them over the hump, right, So

1512
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: they felt like it was a guy that could help

1513
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: get them over the hump. But the thing about you

1514
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: got to get back to the top of the hump

1515
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: to get over the hump, right, So you got to

1516
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: play a whole record of season just to get back

1517
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. And so but yeah, it was you know,

1518
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: it ended up working out for me, you know. And

1519
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you go on, yeah, you go on, you

1520
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: pick off nineteen passes just in Detroit. You had a

1521
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: hell of a career. I mean, you go ten years,

1522
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: you know, and you wind up loving you. You wound

1523
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: up loving the Lions, and and I think, you know,

1524
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: it ended up being the best decision for me far

1525
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: as my career, right, because I think Detroit, like I said,

1526
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: they wanted me, and they wanted to put me in

1527
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: position to like to make plays right and to right.

1528
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: They wanted me to be like I remember Mark make

1529
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: you telling me, like, hey, we want you to like

1530
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: be the start of changing our culture. So that year

1531
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: they signed me, and they signed Reggie Bush, they signed

1532
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: this guy named Jason Jones. It was like, we want

1533
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: you guys to like be the start of the culture

1534
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: change here. So I took that kind of personally. But

1535
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: you know the thing that I thought of it was

1536
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: just like, you know, Detruit put me in positions to

1537
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: lead and to like make plays, and I started to

1538
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: feel like, you know what, if I would have stayed

1539
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: in Houston, I think family wise, friend wise, citywise, it

1540
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: would have been like super cool. But the star power

1541
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: was powerful there, right. You had jj Wi, you had

1542
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: j Joe, you had you know, first Round and Kareem,

1543
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: you had Andre Johnson. You had so much star power area.

1544
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I would and I came in

1545
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: as a rookie kind of like a dude, bar right,

1546
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm doing a nickel, I'm doing a dime. I'm kind

1547
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: of just like that that guy had just kind of

1548
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: like it's the dude bar right. Not in a bad way,

1549
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: but that just kind of the role that I had.

1550
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: And so I kind of felt like if I would

1551
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: have stayed in Houston, I don't know if I would

1552
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: have ever got put in position to be the star

1553
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 1: right outd have just I kind of would have been

1554
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: like that role player, But I don't think I would

1555
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: have ever got put in position to be the guy,

1556
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: like like Detroit put me in position to be the guy,

1557
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: and you know, so I'm very thankful for Detroit for

1558
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: doing that. And it worked out. You know, I was

1559
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: able to produce and some good years, had some good

1560
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: years in Detroit. Yeah, it went to Pro Bowl, led

1561
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: the league and inception. Like, man, I'm man, the people

1562
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 1: in the world can say that they led the NFL

1563
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: and and it's seven in the season. Man, seven y,

1564
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: that's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy, Glover. I want to

1565
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: keep going with you, but we gotta wrap this up.

1566
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: My friend, what which are your Texans teammates from back

1567
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: in the day. Do you still keep in touch with?

1568
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: Still buddies with? What's that like? Who is it? Yeah?

1569
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm still cool with a lot of guys dB guys really,

1570
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still cool with with Arian obviously. I'm

1571
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: still cool with Kareem and j Joe, my c Brian

1572
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 1: Cushing around baseball field with our kids. My workout with

1573
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson every now and then. Me and Zach wood

1574
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: Wood chat a little bit over social media sometimes. So yeah,

1575
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean, for the most part, cool with most of

1576
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: those guys. You know, Men's shop, but chat back and

1577
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: forth on social media. Dan dan Orlovski played with Dan

1578
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: and Detroit as well. So yeah, I mean I'm cool

1579
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: with I'm cool men Jacoby, which I've seen Jacoby in

1580
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: the airport one time. You know, we talk a little

1581
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: bit coach. How about that. Yeah, that's crazy. I love it. Yeah.

1582
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean those guys are cool man. Uh, you know

1583
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: we see each other. We definitely talking. Like I said,

1584
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: we interact on social media a little bit, and I

1585
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: mean everybody's busy, man, So it's cool. It is definitely

1586
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: cool when everybody is busy, especially after what we've been

1587
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: through the last eighteen to twenty months. Here, so great

1588
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: stuff from Glover Quinn. Now, Drew Dorty's gonna stay with

1589
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: me and give us a little in the lab. Next,

1590
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: close up shop here on Texas Access to Us to us.

1591
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: We got one final segment of this Wednesday edition of

1592
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: Texas All Access. I'm John Harris football and a sideline reporter,

1593
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: and I am shouting out all Houston area teachers. You

1594
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Speaker 1: want to bring it little Texas football to your classrooms,

1595
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,000
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1599
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Speaker 1: to learn more. Yes, all of your teachers out there,

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Speaker 1: you absolutely need it. Now. We also in this final segment,

1601
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: we gotta talk a little Schlumberge stats challenge, and our

1602
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: stat tonight is plus one. No, not what you're gonna

1603
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: do tomorrow Thanksgiving? Can everybody have a plus one? No? No, no, no,

1604
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: I'm talking about ten nine, as in ten takeaways minus

1605
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: nine takeaways. That's one. What I mean by that is

1606
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: ten takeaways in the last two games at my ammy

1607
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: at Tennessee. Four I'm sorry, eight combined on defense, two

1608
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: on special teams a J. Moore part of both of

1609
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: those traumata the fumble recovery on special teams. That's ten

1610
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 1: takeaways in two games versus nine. All of twenty twenty.

1611
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: The Texans have thirteen interceptions thirteen, but ten takeaways in

1612
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: two games versus nine in the entire season of twenty twenty.

1613
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 1: That is plus one in two games over the entire season.

1614
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: It's a great stat. I love that stat, and that's

1615
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: brought to you by our friends at schlum Burget. All right,

1616
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: it's time for in the lab with my friend Drew Doherty.

1617
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: We talked about that Tennessee game and a few other things.

1618
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: So here's a little snippet of our conversation. For the

1619
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 1: full Conversation Houston Texas dot Com podcast page. Find in

1620
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: the Lab, find Vandamer's view, Find Deep Slant. All our

1621
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 1: podcasts are there. You can hear the full podcast of

1622
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 1: In the Lap there. But here's a little stippet for

1623
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: you heading into Thanksgiving. We know about the takeaways. You

1624
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: don't have to go too far into that ten in

1625
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,799
Speaker 1: the last two games, five and the last one, zero

1626
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: turnover is huge. That's the main reason you win. Here's

1627
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: some other reasons though you're victorious. One quarterback hit total

1628
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: zero sacks. Now, David Culley explains some of that away is, hey,

1629
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 1: we ran the ball thirty plus times. You know, we

1630
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: had thirty eight rush attempts, so when you're running, you're

1631
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: not going to expose your quarterback. It hits. But even then,

1632
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: after what we saw at Miami, John just a total

1633
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: inability to handle the blitz by everyone involved, quarterback, offensive line,

1634
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 1: running back. I mean everybody was culpable in that. You know,

1635
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: he got hit nine times, he got sacked five times

1636
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: in that one to do a complete one eighty the

1637
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: way they did against a nasty defensive front in that

1638
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: trio of Harold Landry, Jeffrey Simmons and Deniko Autry, and

1639
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: I think Jeffrey Simmons is becoming one of the elite,

1640
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: not just defenders and not just elite players in the game.

1641
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a pain in the ass for years

1642
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 1: to come for the Texans, for everybody in this division.

1643
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: To do what they did, I don't think has been

1644
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: said enough or emphasize enough. Zero sacks, one quarterback hit.

1645
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: You kept your quarterback clean. Man. The irony, in some

1646
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: sense was if you think back three years we played

1647
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: them twenty eighteen. Week two, we had gone to New

1648
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: England and stepped all over ourselves, fumbled in the first

1649
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: play of the game, lost the game by seven, really frustrated.

1650
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 1: One week two to Tennessee at Will Fuller back and

1651
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 1: Fuller and Hopkins were unbelievable in that game. But Blaine

1652
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: Gabbert started for the Titans. They were without their two tackles,

1653
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: Luan and Conklin, and it was like, we should hammer

1654
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: these dudes. Well, they went wildcat with Derrick Henry. They

1655
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: gave Gabbert quick squeek, quick screen throwze. He didn't hold

1656
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: the ball long. They moved the pocket a little bit,

1657
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: and I remembered distinctly after the game, somebody asked JJ

1658
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: walk JJ was coming off the two years of injury

1659
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: in sixteen seventeen. Hey, you didn't get a sack today,

1660
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: so what's up with that? And I wanted literally at

1661
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: that point to jump into the media crowd and just

1662
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: go ballistic on somebody because I'm watching it going, Hey,

1663
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: they did everything possible to have blank Gabbert not hold

1664
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: the ball. And by the way, they had the lead

1665
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: for most of the game, so we were chasing and

1666
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 1: they could just stick to that particular game plan for

1667
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: as long as possible. The fake punt touchdown the game

1668
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: and they gave him cushion and they scored a little

1669
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: bit later, and they had that cushion throughout the game,

1670
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: so they never had to you know, break the glass,

1671
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: you know, in you know, a case of emergency, they

1672
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: never had to, and meaning they would have taken Gabbert

1673
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: and have to drop him back and give it JJ

1674
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 1: and everybody an opportunity to get there. So I remembered

1675
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 1: that well after the game. It's exactly what Mike Rabel said.

1676
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: He didn't mention twenty eighteen, but the way he talked

1677
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: about it was exact, almost exact same comment that JJ

1678
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: made after that game in twenty eighteen, like, look, they

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Speaker 1: moved the pocket, they got a lead. They really didn't

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01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: have to hold the ball that long. And that's true,

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01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: that is true, they got in that position, but they

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Speaker 1: also established in the first half a few drives and

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Speaker 1: then they were opportunistic. But the fact that Tyrod didn't

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01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: take any sacks. Now, he took some hits because he

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01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: ran the ball and made a couple of really nice

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01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,959
Speaker 1: decisions running the ball. But even on the second touchdown

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Speaker 1: in particular, it's not blocked horribly. Tyrod just saw an

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01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: opportunity he could get outside of Simmons, and then once

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01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: he got outside, he had vision and he also had

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to turn it into a dual threat playoff.

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Speaker 1: I can throw this or I could run it. And

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01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: he decided to run it. But he could have stepped

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01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: up in the pocket and found something. He just didn't.

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Speaker 1: He really didn't. He didn't have to because he gave

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01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: himself options by getting outside the pocket. So white being,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty good. Look, it's it's a

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01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: step in the right direction, especially against a group that

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01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: has been so dynamic. And I saw Paul Karski, who

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01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 1: covers the Titans from Nashville and does a whale of

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01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: a job. He tweeted this out that the Titans have

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01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: one hundred going into the game. They had one hundred

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01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 1: plus quarterback pressures, the second in the NFL, second in

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01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, and they got just one hit And it

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01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: wasn't anybody up front. It was Elijah Molding, the safety

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01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: who wouldn't come on the blitz. It's crazy to think about,

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01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 1: so that that progress is exactly what it is. It's progress,

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01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: and that's that's what you want to see. Look, they're

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01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: not smashing people in the mouth the run game running

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01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: for two fifth year or even you know, one hundred

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Speaker 1: at that point, but they're at least holding their own

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Speaker 1: from a past protection standpoint that week when they didn't

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01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 1: see a bunch of zero blitz and all that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. So it turned out to be pretty solid

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01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 1: performance for that group up front. Yeah, and listen, we're

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01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: not acting like the Textans. You just won the Super Bowl.

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01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 1: But on the same hand, a lot of people have

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01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: just been like, oh, well they turn the ball over

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01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: five times, dott and everybody injured. Well, you know what,

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01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: those three guys weren't injured. And those three guys didn't

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01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: didn't do really much of anything. And think about it,

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01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: Your only guy who started the season that was playing

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01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: offensive line as a starter on this offensive line was

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01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,799
Speaker 1: Titus Howard. Everybody else was either backups or Jimmy Morrissey

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01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: was a raider this time a month ago, and he's

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01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie. So I can't overstate enough how big

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01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: a deal that was that they did not let him

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01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 1: get hit such underrated aspect of that game on Sunday,

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01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: and hopefully it's gonna be that way against the Jets

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01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: and every other team the rest of this year. By

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01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: the way, definitely go check out the podcast I tell

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01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: a story about rookie center Jimmy Morrissey. You definitely are

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01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna want to hear. It's gonna give you a little

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01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: smile and give you some thought about the rookies that

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01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: Nick Cassario and his staff have brought in here. It's

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01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: a it's a pretty good one, So definitely go check

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01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: that out at our podcast page Houston Texas dot Com

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Speaker 1: at Big Thanks to a lot of people today, Mark Vandamer,

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassario, b c Ethan Greenberg, Glover Quinn and my

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Speaker 1: Man Drew Doherty to my guys back at six ten

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Speaker 1: in the studio. They do a great job. Happy Thanksgiving,

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01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: be safe, enjoy share the time with loved ones, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see you again on Friday. Thanks everybody, and let's

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01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: always go Texans.