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Speaker 1: of an interview with Emery Horden, Jonathan Ferrell, and Lisa
Speaker 1: Bramwitz of a Secretary of Treasury. Huge response to that interview,
Speaker 1: given the huge tum out, whatever your politics out there,
Speaker 1: We're just trying to give you nuance on the conversations
Speaker 1: around all these different decisions coming out of the new
Speaker 1: the second Trump administration. And it was good to hear
Speaker 1: from Scott Besson today. We were so honored after that
Speaker 1: to have with us Jason Furman at Harvard University and
Speaker 1: Wendy Scheller at Brown University, just back to back on
Speaker 1: just sort of the moment at hand. In GDP analysis,
Speaker 1: consumption is seventy percent of the American pie. Investment is
Speaker 1: like a lean percent. But Jason Furman went on really
Speaker 1: to describe why that is so important here from Harvard
Speaker 1: Jason Furman on America's business investment.
Speaker 2: Consumer spending is the majority of GDP, but investment is
Speaker 2: the majority of fluctuations in GDP because it's much more
Speaker 2: volatile and right now investors business investment is grappling with
Speaker 2: continued high interest rates which are likely to stay that way.
Speaker 2: With an appreciated dollar, which is likely to stay that way,
Speaker 2: with uncertainty about global trade, which is likely to stay
Speaker 2: that way. On the other side of the ledger, there
Speaker 2: may be some reductions in investment in regulations that will
Speaker 2: matter more in targeted sectors like energy than it does
Speaker 2: generically across the board. So a lot of cross currents
Speaker 2: right now, but from policy they're a little bit more
Speaker 2: minus than plus on that part of GDP that is
Speaker 2: most critical to business cycle fluctuations.
Speaker 1: Jason Furman, teaching X ten at Harvard. Wendy Schiller was
Speaker 1: on today. She's on so often. She's been a huge
Speaker 1: support for the program, and I would suggest that a
Speaker 1: lot of our audience looks at her as a liberal voice.
Speaker 1: She's on because she's definitive on American civics. Just to
Speaker 1: give you one idea, one of her great textbooks, in
Speaker 1: its fifth edition, seven hundred and twenty pages, about the
Speaker 1: sprawl of American history in civics. Today, she said, the
Speaker 1: single smartest thing I've seen about the Transatlantic effort, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to paraphrase this to set it up where
Speaker 1: Europe as a parliamentary structure, America does not, but actually
Speaker 1: our new president second term, Donald Trump wants to bring
Speaker 1: back elements of that parliamentary European structure. Here, Wendy Schiller,
Speaker 1: here's the.
Speaker 3: Thing to remember about this Trump Republican unity and the
Speaker 3: swiftness of all these changes. Europe has parliamentary democracies. The
Speaker 3: prime minister when they ring control on the party that
Speaker 3: he controls mostly, he not always controls all party policy,
Speaker 3: all government policy. They change everything when they win the
Speaker 3: government and they see if it works, and people say
Speaker 3: they like it or they don't, and then they get
Speaker 3: thrown out. We are now verging into that kind of
Speaker 3: single party dominance in our federal level. We're not used
Speaker 3: to it. So to say that Europe has to get
Speaker 3: us act together, we're veering towards a political system that
Speaker 3: looks just like Europe in the way the policy changes
Speaker 3: so swiftly. So it's going to be us that has
Speaker 3: to adapt, us that has to get our act together
Speaker 3: to the kind of government that we're about. You know
Speaker 3: that we're seeing right now.
Speaker 1: That is a single most cogent thing I've heard in
Speaker 1: the blur of news that we're all dealing with. Thanks
Speaker 1: again to an Mary Horden for that interview. With the
Speaker 1: Secretary of the Treasury. On your commute across America, look
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