1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. Single best idea off 2 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: of an interview with Emery Horden, Jonathan Ferrell, and Lisa 3 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: Bramwitz of a Secretary of Treasury. Huge response to that interview, 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: given the huge tum out, whatever your politics out there, 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: We're just trying to give you nuance on the conversations 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: around all these different decisions coming out of the new 7 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: the second Trump administration. And it was good to hear 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: from Scott Besson today. We were so honored after that 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: to have with us Jason Furman at Harvard University and 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: Wendy Scheller at Brown University, just back to back on 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: just sort of the moment at hand. In GDP analysis, 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: consumption is seventy percent of the American pie. Investment is 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: like a lean percent. But Jason Furman went on really 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: to describe why that is so important here from Harvard 15 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: Jason Furman on America's business investment. 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: Consumer spending is the majority of GDP, but investment is 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: the majority of fluctuations in GDP because it's much more 18 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: volatile and right now investors business investment is grappling with 19 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: continued high interest rates which are likely to stay that way. 20 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: With an appreciated dollar, which is likely to stay that way, 21 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: with uncertainty about global trade, which is likely to stay 22 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: that way. On the other side of the ledger, there 23 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: may be some reductions in investment in regulations that will 24 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,279 Speaker 2: matter more in targeted sectors like energy than it does 25 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: generically across the board. So a lot of cross currents 26 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: right now, but from policy they're a little bit more 27 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: minus than plus on that part of GDP that is 28 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: most critical to business cycle fluctuations. 29 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: Jason Furman, teaching X ten at Harvard. Wendy Schiller was 30 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: on today. She's on so often. She's been a huge 31 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: support for the program, and I would suggest that a 32 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: lot of our audience looks at her as a liberal voice. 33 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: She's on because she's definitive on American civics. Just to 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: give you one idea, one of her great textbooks, in 35 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: its fifth edition, seven hundred and twenty pages, about the 36 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: sprawl of American history in civics. Today, she said, the 37 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: single smartest thing I've seen about the Transatlantic effort, and 38 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to paraphrase this to set it up where 39 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: Europe as a parliamentary structure, America does not, but actually 40 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: our new president second term, Donald Trump wants to bring 41 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: back elements of that parliamentary European structure. Here, Wendy Schiller, 42 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: here's the. 43 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: Thing to remember about this Trump Republican unity and the 44 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: swiftness of all these changes. Europe has parliamentary democracies. The 45 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: prime minister when they ring control on the party that 46 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: he controls mostly, he not always controls all party policy, 47 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: all government policy. They change everything when they win the 48 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: government and they see if it works, and people say 49 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: they like it or they don't, and then they get 50 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: thrown out. We are now verging into that kind of 51 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: single party dominance in our federal level. We're not used 52 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: to it. So to say that Europe has to get 53 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: us act together, we're veering towards a political system that 54 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: looks just like Europe in the way the policy changes 55 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: so swiftly. So it's going to be us that has 56 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: to adapt, us that has to get our act together 57 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: to the kind of government that we're about. You know 58 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: that we're seeing right now. 59 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: That is a single most cogent thing I've heard in 60 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: the blur of news that we're all dealing with. Thanks 61 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: again to an Mary Horden for that interview. With the 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Secretary of the Treasury. 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