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Speaker 1: Podcast deeply respects the ambition of Trent Richardson. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a

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Speaker 1: What's up boys? Hey Dan, good West, not bad. I'm

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Speaker 1: Butterflies and Patris first time in the studio with us

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Speaker 1: since it's been remodeled. Big moment your career year It's

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Speaker 1: been years. Yeah, so the top one moment in my career. Wow.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to you don't have to make him

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Speaker 1: mean he looks pretty at ease to me, no pressure, diamonds,

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Speaker 1: That button you've got, you've got a lot of chest hair,

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Speaker 1: chest showing. I was told I'm not allow of button

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Speaker 1: is correct? How's that phenomenal? Do you think you're going

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Speaker 1: let's close the kimonos here. Mark, you wandered a little

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Speaker 1: bit through the forest before you settled down. You settled

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Speaker 1: But in terms of getting married, got married. But once

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Speaker 1: And that seems our Patrick's heading right now. My power

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Speaker 1: you'll you'll be there ready to take control. Henry makes

427
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Speaker 1: a point, a good point. Once Eally goes on a vacation,

428
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: will Cessler be subservient to Eally in the same way

429
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Speaker 1: he was with Greg reporting things back to different slights

430
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Speaker 1: towards the boss. Will that happened with Eale? Mark? Right?

431
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: And has has Mark already done the work that you

432
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Speaker 1: know he did behind the scenes to to ensure that

433
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: he was the number two to Greg, you know, working

434
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: his way pass you Dan and pass West. Yeah, certainly

435
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: is he doing the same kind of snaky things in

436
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Speaker 1: the background. Nice attempt, Henry. I'll remind you it's a

437
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: case by case basis and Greg needed to be dealt

438
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 1: with in a certain way and Eale in a very

439
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: different way, and I'm sure you will have sniffed out

440
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: the right way to do that. Well, Henry, I thank

441
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Speaker 1: you for taking his time in between high leverage corporate meetings. Um.

442
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: I will as a gift to you to celebrate hard

443
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: Rock Stadium, I'll send you one of those old jackets

444
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: they used to have with the leather sleeves. And I

445
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Speaker 1: have one other thing for you. Yes, I don't know

446
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: if you've heard, but I'm I'm from the United Kingdom.

447
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: I picked up and Um, I've had a few tweets

448
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Speaker 1: in the last week about your British accent, and I

449
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: think there's kind of a move underway to try and

450
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: stop you from doing it ever again. You know, that's

451
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: always been kind of just under the radar, but now

452
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: I think it's starting to hit the mainstream to really

453
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: shut me down. I think it was who was it you?

454
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Speaker 1: Because Wolford sounds sounds um like a British person or

455
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: your impression of a British person. But he also doesn't

456
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: sound very intelligent. Maybe maybe had a couple of shots

457
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: to the head. He could have fell off his bike

458
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Speaker 1: or something. You're right, right to be honest, Dan, I

459
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: was on a plane listening to that at six am

460
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: yesterday and I was trying not to laugh out loud.

461
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: Sore you go. And Patrick is a very serious guy.

462
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: How about that, Henry, it's just good points. I have

463
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: no comeback for that. If Kevin Patrick's there and he

464
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Speaker 1: likes it, then who am I to stand in the way? Agreed?

465
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Speaker 1: Al I'm gonna play off some hardcore rock and roll

466
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Speaker 1: and you can do some air guitar in your office.

467
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Speaker 1: Thank you. There he goes, Handsome Hank, the new vice

468
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Speaker 1: president of International at NFL media conglomerate. No longer the

469
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Speaker 1: d P. All these roles changing, something's change, something's never do.

470
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Speaker 1: Very powerful man, that's what's happening in the news. Al Right.

471
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: It is time four the greatest Greg Rows at all

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Speaker 1: football television series in the history of the media. There's

473
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Speaker 1: no doubt about that Hard Knocks Report episode two, and

474
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Speaker 1: I will you know, listen, I'm I'm a big fan

475
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: of the show, but I'm no shill for the show.

476
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a little slow out of the gates

477
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Speaker 1: so far. I think, Uh, I wouldn't say that this

478
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Speaker 1: season now through U is right now heading toward the

479
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame or the Mount rushmore of Hard Knocks seasons,

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Speaker 1: Um a little five episodes or six five? I believe

481
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Speaker 1: there are five episodes. Um, it's it's certainly interesting. And

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Speaker 1: I guess my big picture takeaway And I wrote about

483
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Speaker 1: this in my Hard Knocks recap, which you can check

484
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Speaker 1: out at NFL dot com slash hard Knocks, Hard Knocks. Uh.

485
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Speaker 1: That Jeff Fisher, especially after watching All or Nothing this

486
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Speaker 1: summer where Bruce Arians ran to me, it was a

487
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Speaker 1: surprisingly tight ship and he Arians was a more intense

488
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Speaker 1: guy than I realized. Uh. Fisher to me is a

489
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Speaker 1: it's a very kind of loose atmosphere. Uh from where

490
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Speaker 1: I was my my vantage point on the couch, different

491
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Speaker 1: for sure Uh than um Uh Bruce Arians, who would

492
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Speaker 1: you know, went after guys Hard got very angry Fisher,

493
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Speaker 1: even when he had his now infamous rant about seven

494
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Speaker 1: and nine last week. It didn't seem as natural coming

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Speaker 1: out of him. Um, and you get the vibe watching

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Speaker 1: the team and Greg, I know you watched the episode,

497
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Speaker 1: if you if you've picked up on that at all,

498
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Speaker 1: uh as well, And I know they're it's NFL films.

499
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna highlight some of the lighter moments camp

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Speaker 1: for entertainment value you. But it does seem pretty loose,

501
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: uh at Vine. That's fair. He's a southern California guy,

502
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher, so maybe that's that's Culver City where we

503
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: are right now. You don't think of him as kind

504
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: of a loose guy like that, lighthearted, but he seems

505
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: kind of chill the more you get to to watch him.

506
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: And some of his position coaches are the guys playing

507
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: the bad guys. I mean, my Mike Waffle. You know

508
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: he is one of the heroes. And I hope there's

509
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Speaker 1: even more. I'll give you a break, stay say who

510
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Speaker 1: you are. By the way, I would never dare to

511
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Speaker 1: criticize Mike Wild can come after me and kill me

512
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: because he is the best. He's the marine from Full

513
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: Metal Jacket. This is an actually and you know who's

514
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 1: the best players on their team, the best unit over

515
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: the last five years, the defensive line who Mike Waffles coaching. Okay,

516
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Speaker 1: I mean he didn't give the DNA that Aaron Robert Quinn.

517
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'd be afraid to let that guy down.

518
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Speaker 1: That's true, an actual line from Mike Waffle on Tuesday. Uh.

519
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Speaker 1: And get ready, this is gonna need some bleeping. I

520
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: keep irish active with the people, knock them back. But

521
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: the quarterback on the ground, go celebrate that you and

522
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that must be from the preseason game

523
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: and he was piste off at the Cowboys. Now he's

524
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: only his own guys, that's a practice. He just dropped

525
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: an fu which seemed pretty heavy. But anyway, getting back

526
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: to to the general vibe of the camp, you know,

527
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: when you start saying these things, it's a laid back,

528
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: loose atmosphere. Kevin Patrick and then the dreaded Oh they're

529
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Speaker 1: running a country club. I don't want to say that

530
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: that's unfair. I'm not close enough to the team to

531
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: say that. But when Kenny Britt and Brian Quick overturned

532
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: in their golf card and almost killed themselves, uh, you

533
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: would think and I was thinking, Bruce Arian, that is

534
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: quite ridiculous. It was you're you're not expecting that, You're like, okay,

535
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 1: we've seen this hard knocks seen before where guys are

536
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: just like driving around and then suddenly how lucky were they?

537
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: Not lucky but that the camera was there and it's

538
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: just like bam, yeah, and Kenny Britt almost gets landed

539
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: on him, right it did. He got very lucky and

540
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: they're both kind of laughing, and during the admonishment pros process,

541
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Speaker 1: I thought that was a little interesting too. Yeah. I

542
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Speaker 1: thought that was weird that Britt was laughing as they

543
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: as they stood him up, being like, you guys could

544
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: have been here. And when this came and we were

545
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: saying maybe it was a little unfair. Dion Long got

546
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: cut last week for um having a girl in his

547
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: dorm and he was immediately sent out the door an

548
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: undrafted wide receiver. This this crashing of the moped situation

549
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: came shortly after they showed Fisher saying guys be careful

550
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: on these things. I don't want anybody doing any funny business.

551
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: And then these guys are like racing like fast and

552
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: the furious I mean I I had behind because I

553
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: did not see this episode yet you read the recap

554
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: though I read the recap today. Question for you. It

555
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: seemed it seemed one of the briefer recaps from you,

556
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: and I was wondering, was this is this series in

557
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: general a little low wattage because the first I love

558
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, but episode one was a hard six out

559
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: of ten for me. Like it's just I felt like,

560
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: from the minute they announced the l A Rams, I thought,

561
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: here's the five things I know we're going to happen

562
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: in episode one and one to three, four, five, they

563
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: all happened. It's like, are they branching into new areas

564
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: where you're learning about people that you didn't know? Did

565
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: you say low watted you? Because last year was the

566
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: Texans and what was I did not? Possibly? Um, well,

567
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: I I was trying to be economical. I did make

568
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: some cuts, but yeah, there wasn't It wasn't like the

569
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: words are pouring out because there wasn't something jumping out

570
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: at me so far. But I do the one if

571
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: this season, If nothing else, this scene the season will

572
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: give us. Uh this quote from Jeff Fisher on William Hayes,

573
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: but we learned last year was the guy that didn't

574
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: believe in dinosaurs, but it is now we're learning about

575
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: his belief in a mystical, mythical sea creature that makes

576
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: them even more strange. Will Hayes absolutely believes, and it's

577
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: totally convinced that there are mermaids and they do exist. Okay,

578
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: it's a matter of fact. Remember him getting really excited

579
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: about the potential from moving out here because he knew

580
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: that he would be closer to mermaids here on the

581
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: West Coast. Cessler hates that. I'll give you no I

582
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: just I think it's it just feels. Is it contrived

583
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: at all? Do you think he really doesn't think William Hayes,

584
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's contrived at all, because this has

585
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: been a thing for years. He also doesn't believe in dying.

586
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if you listen to him arguing, I mean,

587
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback doesn't know where the sun rises the sky,

588
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: thinks that mermaids are flying around. If you listen to him,

589
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: his his arguments for why he believes it, Like he's like,

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Speaker 1: what about the dinosaurs in the sea, They're like the

591
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: meteor hit He's like, but they were underwater fire. It

592
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: was like it was like that you know, crac You know,

593
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Speaker 1: I don't know. The whole thing was insane any his

594
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: his reasoning for why Mermaids could exist because scientists find

595
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: new organisms in the ocean every day. But then he

596
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: turns against science when it comes to the dinosaur um stuff.

597
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: So that is all fun. But I love the show.

598
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch. It doesn't matter, you know, whether the

599
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: show is having an offseason or a good season. I

600
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: still enjoy it. It's like pizza, but um, maybe a

601
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: little bit of a slow start. Jared Goff reminds me

602
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: a lot by the way his even though he's from

603
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: northern California, he reminds me a lot of Mark Sanchez

604
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: in the two thousand ten Hard Knocks season and Jets

605
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: for his young kind of cocky, a little bit goofy,

606
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: and seem demature. Still has a way to go to

607
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: kind of really earn the respect of his teammates, but

608
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: he's still the hot shot on the on the rock.

609
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: I think we can forget how young these people are

610
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: and what we were like at that same age. And

611
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: it's easy to jump on Golf for what happened in

612
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: the first episode at least, But I mean these like

613
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: a twenty one two year old kid, and they talked

614
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: about Fisher. They said there were some whispers that the

615
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: Rams weren't into Wentz because WinCE was this a type personality,

616
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: and that it wasn't Fisher's personality. That Fisher and Golf

617
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: were much more similar types in terms of being laid back.

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00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: So golf has a seven and nine personality? Is that

619
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Speaker 1: I like it's made me like case Key no more.

620
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Though he's he's gotta you know, he's exactly kind of

621
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: what you'd figure case Eno would be. But he's what

622
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: you would want in a starting quarterback, welcoming in golf,

623
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: and I don't know doesn't he's also the all time

624
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: leader in yards, touchdowns, and completions and n c a history.

625
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Poor case Keenum doesn't this a little respect. I was

626
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: surprised to see whatever or hear that, um, but I

627
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: there is there are patterns. If you watch a show

628
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: every summer, it seems like if you're a veteran backup quarterback,

629
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: you're in a good spot to come off is pretty

630
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: cool on the show. Yeah, that more A couple of

631
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: years ago, Mark Brunel, in that Jet season, they kept

632
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: to be the older guy that you know imparts wisdom

633
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: and is a little more laid back because he knows

634
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: it's not all on his shoulders and it usually comes

635
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: off um well. Anyway, any other thoughts, guys on the

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks report, Well you, I enjoyed the write up

637
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Speaker 1: you saved me. I would not know a thing that

638
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: happened otherwise. I'm just glad America has gotten to meet

639
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: Rob Boris, the Rams offensive coordinator. Is anyone more under

640
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: the radar for for a guy who's running an entire offense,

641
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: probably with no help from uh, you know, Jeff Fisher.

642
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: How do you follow up for Frank Signetti? Buddy? That

643
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: stuff Frank Signetti? Uh? And one last note in in

644
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: praise of NFL Films, It's amazing the bottomless nature of

645
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: their their vault in Mountain. Laurel Ian say I was

646
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: a undrafted defensive end or maybe he's a late round pick.

647
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but he's the nephew of Junior say Ow.

648
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: And what other UM Films entity could do what they

649
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: did in this episode, which was not only they talked

650
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: about how uh he looked up to his uncle, but

651
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: then they cut to NFL Films archive footage of Junior

652
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: say oh, watching Ian say how as a boy playing

653
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: in his football league from the sidelines, It's like, wow, yeah,

654
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: and that was awesome. The shots of Jeff Fisher at

655
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: the original RAMS training Kim. People destroyed each other training

656
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: Kim in. I know the league has a long way

657
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: to go and player health and safety, but for strides

658
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: in that department, look no further than the difference in amps. Yeah.

659
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: Then they would practice all year long that way too.

660
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: It was a completely different type of football player. All right,

661
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: let's move on, guys. Oh, one thing before we move on,

662
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: I just want to remind everyone big announcement next week,

663
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: the third annual Around the NFL Fantasy Extravaganza. Kevin Rump

664
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: pumped from the outside perspective of someone that's not in

665
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 1: the studio much. How excited are you about this year's edition?

666
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: Probably at least a five point five out of ten.

667
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: That's that's all that's good in Patra's world. That's if

668
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: you know bell curve, that's cool. It's a it's an

669
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Speaker 1: f failure. But if when Patrick was eight, you've got

670
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: a great on a you got a greade on a curve,

671
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Speaker 1: Patrick on Christmas Eve, you would have said six point

672
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: five one to how excited are you about your lady friend?

673
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: That's a big question. I'm not answering that I'm actually

674
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: not gonna gonna listen to the show. No, but on

675
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: the off shot that why wouldn't you listen, Well, why

676
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't you answer at ten? It's obvious No, I'm just

677
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: not gonna do that because then my reputations on the

678
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: line as a as a hard I'm just gonna not six,

679
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: and then declined to answer six and a half, declining

680
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: six to answer the fantasy show coming in just below

681
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: lady friends. This is like a coach that won't announce

682
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: that starting quarterback. You only don't say, you know not

683
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: unless you have something to hide the London game. Maybe

684
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: I do, Maybe I do? All right? Interesting a little look, Greg,

685
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: incredulous that it likes to give relationship advice. Division preview

686
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: time number three. We've done the NFC East, We've done.

687
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: Now they don't have to see South, and then the

688
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: NFC Ust and then we gotta do it all again

689
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: with the AFC. This time we're talking about, Yes, the

690
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: South division, which has your your enthusiasm, is really going

691
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: to help with the listeners. I'm sure they're just like

692
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: crazy the listeners. What's wrong? We're up and down with it.

693
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't like when there's a lot, you know, like

694
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: when you were a college kid and you were you

695
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: had to write a thirty seven page term paper and

696
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: you're just at the beginning of it. It just feels

697
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: like this mountain that you have to climb. I'm still

698
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm only like ten pages into the turn paper. That's so.

699
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: I like it, though. I like talking football with you, guys.

700
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: We just got a long way to go. Look on

701
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: great is just absolutely everything. Yeah, well, it was the

702
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: fact that you feel that need to even say the words.

703
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: I like talking football with you guys. Really like that,

704
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: like that would be in question. Um, Henry by the way,

705
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: just sent me a no, we don't use that word,

706
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: and I am. Here are the stadium names in Miami

707
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: through the years. Joe Robbie, Pro Player Park, Pro Player Stadium,

708
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: Dolphins Stadium, Dolphin Stadium, Land Shark Stadium. Oh, this one

709
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 1: goes under the radar sun Life. That's where they played

710
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: the Super Ball. That's where is that the Saints a

711
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl? No no, oh, And it was real. They

712
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: were both there. We're both right, Okay, you're right, right, Okay,

713
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: everybody's right and finally Hard Rock Stadium. Okay. NFC South,

714
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: who wants to start today? Mark? Do you want to

715
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: start today or would you have? Mark? Will start today?

716
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: In the NFC South, Greg, what are the teams in

717
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: the NFC South? The Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints, Tampa

718
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, and the defending NFC Championship, Your Carolina Panthers,

719
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: very professional, real broadcaster, uh Mark, you will get us

720
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: going with the breakout star of the NFC South in

721
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: the year. I'm gonna go with Devin Funches, Panthers second

722
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: year wide receiver. I mean, part of it's just reading

723
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: the Tea leaves one beat reporter after the next without

724
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: any question, calling him the m v P of training camp.

725
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera said, I don't even want to say who

726
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: the m VP is because I don't want to jinx him.

727
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: But it's clear he's talking about Devin Funcius and has

728
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: a lot to do with Kelvin Benjamin has. You know,

729
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: they're bringing him along very slowly. His conditioning has not

730
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: been and Funcius has played the role of number one

731
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver going up against number one cornerbacks in practice.

732
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: And in game. In the game as well, caught a

733
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. But they just said that him and Cam

734
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: Newton one long connection after the next, that he's completely

735
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: become a more versatile player, totally trust where They love

736
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: his offseason. And so for me, because you know, maybe

737
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: Benjamin doesn't get off to the roaring start that some

738
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: would expect. Funcius, who's been there all along for months

739
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: and months, is installed as that guy that Cam Newton

740
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: can really look to, and it speaks to me a

741
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: big season. I would say ten plus touchdowns would not

742
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: be out of the question at all. My concern there

743
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: would be where does he fit in once Kelvin Benjamin

744
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: is back. Ted Jr. Is not exactly a slot receiver.

745
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: So we're we're how does the Trio twin towers on

746
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: the outside that I think so that Dave got a

747
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: and he has a vision and the field den Fud

748
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: just looks like a tight end. So does Benjamin. Benjamin's

749
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: weight thing has slipped under the radar a little bit.

750
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy who's had weight problems

751
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: going back years and years. He's got weight conditioning problems.

752
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: Now he's a key part of that team, and and

753
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Mark. I think I

754
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: think it's set up for Devin Funch just to be

755
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: kind of a co number one with with Benjamin, that

756
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: was the whole goal back back when they drafted him

757
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: second round, when they reached a lot of people thought

758
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: they reached when they took him that high. We'll see

759
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: former tight end playing wide receiver that that was. That's

760
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: an adjustment. We need to see it happen, first of all.

761
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: But it makes sense with Cam Newton too, that he's

762
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: the guy who's not afraid to throw it into tight windows.

763
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: Not a guy who's gonna be opened by a ton,

764
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: but a big guy. You can throw it up high too,

765
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: and you'll catch it. Patra your breakout star. We're sticking

766
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers. I'm going Shack Thompson. I think

767
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: you know he had fifty tackles last year, played limited

768
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: to start, but I think with him, Thomas Davis and

769
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: Luke Keickley, that's gonna be the fast just linebacking trio.

770
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: It already is the fastest linebacking is going to be

771
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: even faster. I think he can cover tight ends whenever needed,

772
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna give them versatility, he can

773
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: rush the passer. He's gonna being a whole dimension. I

774
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: think his speed is gonna be dynamic this year and

775
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: gonna That's one reason I think they're not so worried

776
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: about the cornerback position because I think they can he

777
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: They believe that he can cover some of those gaps

778
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: in their zone scheme, and he can stay on the

779
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: field and cover a bigger, a slower wide receiver or

780
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: a tight end in those nickel situations, so they're not

781
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: worried as much about the depth at the corner. I

782
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: was watching the Ravens Panthers preseason game and they talked

783
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: about Jack Thompson as their defensive m v P of

784
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: this of this training game. So that draft for Dave

785
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: Gedelman is looking outstanding right now. And against the Ravens,

786
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: they were moving him all over the field. They love

787
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: to do all sorts of stuff with him, and he

788
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: did it well and he's incredibly fast, And I think

789
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: you're exactly right. I agree with you. If Shack Thompson

790
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: takes a step up like that front of Thomas Davis,

791
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: forget within ten percent of where he was last year.

792
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: That's not just the you know, fastest linebacker group this year.

793
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: That's one of the best linebacker groups in the last

794
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: fifteen years because Luke Cakeley is the best in the league,

795
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis is in that range, and if Shack Thompson

796
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: is a Pro Bowl typ player, that's an insane linebacker group.

797
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Good start guys, a lot of pressure on me to

798
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: keep it up. I will go with a tight end

799
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: in New Orleans named Kobe Fleaner, who, well, I know,

800
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Kobe Fleiner is not a very popular guy. It seems

801
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: like a lot of people think he is a flawed

802
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: football player. But I don't think you need to be

803
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: a perfect You don't have to be Rob Gronkowski to

804
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: thrive in New Orleans at the tight end position. I

805
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: think Drew Brees, despite some reports of the contrary, maybe

806
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: his arm strength is a little diminished, was still a

807
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: monster producer last year. Benjamin Watson, who, by the way,

808
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: you want to pick one person who is not gonna

809
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: come close to their numbers from the year before, Ben

810
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: Watson ain't sniffing eight hundred yards eight in Baltimore hundred targets,

811
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't I think that. What

812
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: I think he'll top his eight he yarders from last

813
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: year in can I take your standard? Thank you? Okay, anyway, disagree,

814
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: But that's not even the heart of my my uh

815
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: point here. It's more the idea of I think Watson is,

816
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: while a nice player and it seems like a very

817
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: good guy, not the most dynamic football player. Kobe Fleaner

818
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: is an offensive talent. Maybe not a great blocker, but

819
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: great hands, can run like the devil, and with Drew

820
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: Brees and some emergent talent around him, I think Kobe

821
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: Fleaner is gonna be one thousand yard receiver and UH

822
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: put him in the top ten, uh tight end conversation

823
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: maybe higher. Wow, it's been a great position in New Orleans,

824
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: like you said, So that's a good way to connect

825
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: the dots. It's bad news for making the leap candidate

826
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: Josh Hill from a year ago, who I basically spent

827
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, three days, ten thousand words writing about a ghost.

828
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: But that was a stretch like in retrospan because everyone thought,

829
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: all right, it was an eel. He was an season

830
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: that slot will get those targets and produce. But I

831
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: think Fleaner comes in with an actual pedigree as an

832
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: offensive the problem with Fleaner, I think for this is

833
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: that I think the receivers are so much better now

834
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: that that's where some of those balls are gonna go.

835
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Are we concerned a great route runner in in India

836
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: and those things will carry over. I don't think he's

837
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: gonna just all of a sudden be great at getting open.

838
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: Are concerned the Cults wanted Dwayne Allen over Koby Fleaner

839
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: without looking back to think that's how they're one. I'm

840
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna pick a more obvious, big name guys, my breakout player,

841
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. If there's a quarterback in the league that

842
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: I think has the best chance to improve this season dramatically,

843
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: it's Jamis Winston. You line up and and I'm taking

844
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: this idea from the Football Outsiders Almanac, which is a

845
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: is a great work. You should check it out. If

846
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: you look at his stats versus Andrew luck Stack stats

847
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: as rookies, uh, they're very similar and Winston's are better.

848
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: And when I think of those two quarterbacks, I think

849
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: they're pretty similar. They were in similar situations. I think

850
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: when Aston's far more athletic and better escaping, uh the

851
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: pass rush and running a little bit, then he was

852
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: given credit for UH. Certainly just like Andrew Luck. I

853
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: think he sees the field and anticipation in his mind

854
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: is on fire. And I love Mariota and there's no

855
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: need to compare the two. But if I'm picking one

856
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: quarterback I think can make that leap to a top

857
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: seven eight type of quarterback in a big second year leap,

858
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: I think I think it's Jamis Winston. I know Chris

859
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: Wessling is a huge fan of UH. Maybe not as

860
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: big a fantasy as Marcus Mariota, but he watched every

861
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: snap and came away thinking that Winston has that type

862
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: of ability. He's in better shape now, he lost something,

863
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: maybe fat. Maybe this all translates to a leap. I

864
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: think Mike Evans could be better this year, and I

865
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: think that will help Jamis Winston. I mean, when you're

866
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: just looking for all the traits and a quarterback that

867
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: you want, whether it's intangible or tangible to me, he

868
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: he is that guy, and I think he showed it

869
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: even more than Winston. They're both great, but I I

870
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: feel really confident when they were surprised by how much

871
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: of a leader he was. When you watch Jared Goff

872
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: on hard knocks and you realize how hard it is

873
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: as a quarterback to command these veterans that even by

874
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: a month in, they were like, this guy gets it,

875
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: and the way he treated his offseason makes sense. Actually,

876
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: Winston was going to be one of my my underrated

877
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: under the radar stories that we'll get to later. I mean,

878
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: I just think that even in this room, I mean,

879
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: everyone talks about Mariota, but nobody talks. I mean, where

880
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: where is the Winston's gonna be great in year two storyline? Nationally?

881
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: I think the Tampa has helped really been a weird

882
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: way because he is under the radar for a number

883
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: one quarterback who pretty much lived up to the building

884
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: right off the bat. Alright, moving on biggest concern in

885
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: the NFC South Mark. I'm gonna leave a couple of

886
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: things like the Saints defense sitting out there if someone

887
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: else wants to talk about it. For me, I totally

888
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: like shot that one down now though it's got no

889
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: glory anymore. Well, I wasn't, that wasn't my goal, but

890
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: that's how she defense. That's what I was planning to do.

891
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about the fact that you know, Dan,

892
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: you've been mentioning, you've been predicting that Tom Brady fall

893
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: off a cliff season. Now I'm not. Let's make sure

894
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: we have this right that he's going to go into

895
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: a gradual decline. Well, all right, I mean we're all

896
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: gradually declining. So I thought it was a stronger prediction

897
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: than that. And then my concern is the same thing

898
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: with Drew Brees. I mean, they act like this guy

899
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: is just gonna keep turning out these seasons over and

900
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: over and over. It is a team that is not

901
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: well built. I don't think overall their defense has issues

902
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: and there's still a team that's got to win shootouts,

903
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: and as Drew Brees, who had helped it use to

904
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: some degree last year, going to be able to last.

905
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: I think if that, if that doesn't happen, a you

906
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: don't have a clear air apparent to him. You just

907
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: latched on a Sean Payton for another X amount of years,

908
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: and suddenly if Breeze is not at the all pro level,

909
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: that team completely collapses upon itself. I'm not as much

910
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: worried about him collapsing as much as his offensive line.

911
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: In front of the interior. That offensive line, that's how

912
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get hurt though, But I don't get that. He's

913
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: got one of, if not the best left tackles in

914
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: the league. He's got a great center, He's got a

915
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: first round pick playing at one of the guard spots, Andrews,

916
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: it's like the other side. All right, that's pretty good.

917
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's more than a lot of teams have

918
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. And and I I am so

919
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: high on on the young talent round and Michael Thomas

920
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: and Brandon Cooks and the mark Ingram I think is

921
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: underrated CJ. Spiller to him, I just think he has

922
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: so many players, Kobe Fleaner way more weapons. But yeah,

923
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: the defense might be terrible. We'll see, I will, but

924
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: I just think he'll. I think he'll put up a

925
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: monster year. He looked pretty good at the end of

926
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: last year. Mark. I will save my counter to that

927
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: for our next category. Kevin Patra break out the biggest concern.

928
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Falcons pass rush because I

929
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: think that the rest of the team, I think it

930
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: could couldn't be solid. Let's assume that the rookie linebackers

931
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: are as good as we think they could be. Neil

932
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: on the back end of safety is as good as

933
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: he could can be. The offensive line plays up to billing.

934
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan has one of his better seasons after a

935
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: couple of mediocre ones. The pass rush, Are they going

936
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: to really get to the quarterback outside of Vic Beasley?

937
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: Are we expecting seventy five year old freey two come back?

938
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: And it's amazing he's still playing at this He only

939
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: played eight games last year. He has he played really well,

940
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: but I mean he's gonna is he gonna play a

941
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: whole season? And who else? Who else do they have

942
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna get to the quarter But they can try

943
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: to signor again. I mean that's what they do. They

944
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: go out and sign the person that should have retired

945
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: three years Side Shelby, which I thought was, oh chance,

946
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: we're taking look pretty good in Miami, young guy. I

947
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: just don't I don't see where if the back end

948
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: is so good, good linebacker, because like I said, let's

949
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: assume that those but if you don't ever touch the

950
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: quarterback with Cam Newton, Drew Brees, James Winston in your

951
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: own division, they're gonna pick you apart. You have to

952
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. And we're not even sure that

953
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: the top rusher right now. Had four sacks as a rookie,

954
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: so we don't know if they can get back to

955
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback. This is the team that could, in my opinion,

956
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: threatened for the division if with all their other parts,

957
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: But if they can't get to the quarterback, it's gonna

958
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: ruin everything. Kind of piggyback with mine because I don't

959
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: think they're a threat in the division, and I think

960
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: it's just they have issues on both sides of the ball.

961
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about this Kyle Shanahan experiment or

962
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: experience in Atlanta. It didn't go too smoothly last year,

963
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: and there were reports that Matt Ryan struggled a little

964
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: bit with Kyle Shannon. Kyle Shannon, for a guy that

965
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: gets a lot of UH compliments, is bounced around a

966
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: lot in this league, and they weren't that great last year.

967
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: I think Matt Ryan kind of plateaued as a quarterback

968
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: at his age thirty two season. We kind of know

969
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: who he is at this point, and I don't think

970
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: they did enough to help him in the off season.

971
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: I really think Mohammed Sanu is a guy that's gonna

972
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: disappoint there. Julio Jones is still a genius at his

973
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: craft and is gonna have a monster season, But I

974
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna score enough points to offset

975
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: issues on other side, other aspects of the team. I

976
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: think this is an offense that could be a problem

977
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: and it could cost Mr Shanahan another job. At the

978
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: end of the year, I had written the same idea

979
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: down as as a possible underrated storyline, that that this

980
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: offense was the problem last year. It's weird that that

981
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan has such a bad year in a year

982
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: that the offensive line was pretty good, the running game

983
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: for the most part, was pretty good, and yet this

984
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: was this team was twenty three in offense uh from

985
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: Football Outsiders d v o A, which is the you know,

986
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: it was a decline in which I can't quite wrap

987
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: my head around it. Matt Ryan is a huge, huge

988
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: part making big mistakes, so I don't know what was

989
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: missing there. I think they have room to improve. But

990
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: it's underrated that that that was that was just as

991
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: big a problem as the defense. Because you expected the

992
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: defense to be mediocre. They were last in the league

993
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: the year before that. It was surprising the offense was

994
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: so bad. The only the only thing I disagree with.

995
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: I think Sanu will actually play well in this offense.

996
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: Even in the preseason game against the Redskins, wasn't out

997
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: there long, made two catches, seems an integral part of

998
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: the deal. I think he's an upgrade from where Roddy

999
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: White was a year. Like I guess this is my question.

1000
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: Anybody's really an upgrade over Roddy White in two thousand six,

1001
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: But then it's an upgrade for your passing game. But

1002
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but what did we see from Mohammed Sanu

1003
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: over the greater part of what was three or four

1004
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: four years instance? And I think that now going with

1005
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback, it was more or less it's kind of

1006
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: at the same level. Also with an elite wide receiver

1007
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: A J. Green, Julio Jones. Why are we all going

1008
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: to see all of a sudden see this jomb I

1009
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: think he was up and down in Cincinnati, But if

1010
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: you look at the season two seasons ago when A. J.

1011
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: Green was out of the line up a bunch and

1012
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: he was forced to go into a number one role,

1013
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: he had big games. He put up big numbers, and

1014
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing as a number one receiver, but he's

1015
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: in the perfect place as a number two. I feel

1016
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: like the same thing the opposite happened in another stretch

1017
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: with a J. Green, where Sanu didn't do anything when

1018
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: he was in the league. If you go look up

1019
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: two fourteen, when Sanu was in there, he was he

1020
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: had the best games of his career when he was

1021
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: spotlighted as the number one guy. Well, we'll see how

1022
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: it plays out. Greg, Well, you guys weren't excited because

1023
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: it's the NFC North day and oh it's another NFC

1024
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: South day, and uh my underrated storyline? Is how great

1025
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: this division is. I know I've made this ramp before,

1026
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: so I'll keep it quick. But this is a division

1027
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: where the quarterback play. That's what we all like watching,

1028
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: at least what I like watching. This is your big concern, No,

1029
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: I thought we're an underrated story long I don't even

1030
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: know what's going on anymore, making it everyone else concern

1031
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: is that every why doesn't he just start underrated storylines?

1032
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: That's fair, the goa keep going, start interrupt just's I've

1033
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: said it all that any one of these teams could

1034
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: win the division. I believe that there's not a crazy

1035
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: difference between the top in the bottom. I think it's

1036
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: exciting to see what the Panthers do. Uh, that was

1037
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna be my biggest concern. Let's let's put them all together.

1038
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: My concern about the Panthers like, how do they handle

1039
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: being a team that was fifteen and one? Things are

1040
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna be harder this year. How do they handle a

1041
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: little adversity, whether it's Cam Newton or it's a team

1042
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: in general? They're not going fifteen and one. They have

1043
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: the easiest schedule on paper in the entire league last year,

1044
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: that's not happening again. The YODDA Division schedule is pretty

1045
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: tough for the NFC South. I think the whole division

1046
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be better. I think it's gonna be a

1047
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: dog fight between all these teams. I think they'll be

1048
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: in the mix. How do the Panthers handle that? And

1049
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: that's why it's underrated? How good this division is? I

1050
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: think good. One right on my sheet here, emlosone is

1051
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: how do the Panthers handle season where everything doesn't go right?

1052
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: Because everything up until the Super Bowl went perfectly right

1053
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: for Carolina last year, and there's already been whispers in camp.

1054
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: Rivera said, I have to keep telling these guys that

1055
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: they don't just assume they're gonna get back to the

1056
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That it's something he's had to talk to

1057
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: a young team about. Is it's going to be the

1058
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: same weekly grind is and every other year minus all

1059
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: the good luck from last week. My counter to that

1060
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: is not everything went right. Super fifty went pretty wrong.

1061
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: But my point being there is that they still should

1062
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: be that driving force within the team. I don't think

1063
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: they'll go soft or anything like that. I think that

1064
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: could make that can fuel them and maybe they'll continue

1065
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: on the same time. Are they at the level where

1066
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Patriots are at and the Cardinals

1067
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: maybe are trying to get to where they're one of

1068
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: the the teams each and every year. I think they're

1069
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: set up to possibly be that. That is hard to

1070
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: pull off. There's only a couple of teams like that there.

1071
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: I think just their defense is head and shoulders above

1072
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: everyone else in this division. I think that is what's

1073
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: gonna We'll get to it later when I say something,

1074
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: but that's that's where I think they're gonna be so

1075
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: much better than that Mark that was your underrated story line. Well,

1076
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: actually it blends perfectly into mind, say quick, because I

1077
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: what I put here was that Carolina has been the

1078
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: best drafting slash developing team in the league east of Arizona.

1079
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: They have and and it's it's it's functious Kelvin Benjamin,

1080
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: the way Cam Newton has grown with this coaching staff.

1081
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: They took Michael Ore and made him into a serviceable

1082
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: tackle for most of the season. You got k one

1083
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: short star at Luta Lailey. It's like they keep drafting

1084
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: players that produce. I didn't even gone through half the list.

1085
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: I mean, they have the chance to be and just

1086
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: as good as they were last season. Forget the record

1087
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: that they could be a better team if they wanted to.

1088
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: They're getting Benjamin back and the Panthers are legitimate. They

1089
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't think that last year was a fluke on

1090
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: any level. No, I don't know. I'm not saying you do,

1091
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: but I think I think people are thinking, oh, you know,

1092
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: anyone can win this division, and it's like, I don't

1093
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think anyone can win this division.

1094
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people. I don't think. I don't

1095
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: think anyone. I don't agree with that at all. I

1096
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: think Carolina is gonna win this division. When you stumble

1097
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: by the way, when you're fifteen and one and you

1098
00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: you come down to earth a little bit, you can

1099
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: still go twelve and four. I mean this tame is

1100
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: that as that talented, but they could not be as

1101
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: good as last year and still be good enough to

1102
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: get a number one seed. What is your underrated storyline,

1103
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick? I wrote two of them down. We've hit

1104
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 1: him both. My underrated storyline is, in contrast to mark

1105
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: your biggest concern, I think that Saint's offense could shred

1106
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: and I think they have the chance to kind of

1107
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: get back to that Saints level of recent years for

1108
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: the same reasons that Greg mentioned before. All these skill

1109
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: players suddenly around Drew Brees, and then if you look

1110
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: at Drew Brees and I I was with the majority

1111
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: opinion kind of entering last year that, okay, maybe this

1112
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: is kind of declined time a little bit for Drew Brees.

1113
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: But if you look after he came back from that

1114
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: shoulder injury the last three quarters of the season, he

1115
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: was a monster. He was just as productive as he's

1116
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: ever been. So you put him with this all this talent,

1117
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: and I think he has another couple of years in

1118
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: the tank of big time play. I think they're gonna

1119
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: score a ton of points. I think they could score

1120
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: like over thirty points a game on average. Well, we

1121
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: thought we went last year at this time, we couldn't

1122
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: have been more excited about C. J. Spiller. And you

1123
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be this run, heavy attack, mark Ingram

1124
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: and everyone else is just gonna blow teams up. And

1125
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold on wait this time. But you know what,

1126
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: I think they're embracing who they really are, not this

1127
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: we now smashing what is it smashing dash? I mixing

1128
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: them up. But anyway, they're gonna air it out and

1129
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw for a tuny yards. Breeze will go

1130
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: over five thousand again with forty touchdowns. I see that

1131
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: kind of seasondowns four bucks. They're an underrated storyline, barely

1132
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: get mentioned. Finally, pass Fresh could be better. Get to

1133
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Mark, starting with you the song that best

1134
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: describes the state of the NFC South. I'm excited for yours. Mark.

1135
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: You know what this is just got to be about it.

1136
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: If that's coordinated, it should be. Who do you want

1137
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: to sex up? Why are all your songs about making

1138
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: love to people they're not one was called touch myself.

1139
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: There was no other person. All right, how about this?

1140
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: Because I don't agree with Greg's uh you know joan

1141
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: of our campaign about this is the most exciting division

1142
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: in football. It needs to get sexy. How about get

1143
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: a little sexier? How about show us and prove that

1144
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: you're the most exciting division. I don't buy that at all.

1145
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: Two of these teams playing domes, so they don't even

1146
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: exist to me and I outside of the Panthers, I mean,

1147
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: the three other teams to me just seem like a

1148
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: mishmash of the same thing. A bunch of seven and

1149
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: nine teams ready to disappoint us. What sexier sex up?

1150
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: Wouldn't the song be? I don't want to sex you up?

1151
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: I think I'm speaking to someone that they would want it, like,

1152
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: have that kind of relationship with I don't feel that

1153
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: way about the NFC South changed my opinion. It was

1154
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: an anti song, that's what you're saying. Yes, it was

1155
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: an anti theme. Kevin Patrick, your debut song the Best

1156
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: describes the NFC South. Come on, Swiss speech, turn this

1157
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: up in my headphones. That was Patrick barky flu way,

1158
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: No no if Patri was a rapper m I would

1159
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: love I Love d m X. There's there was a

1160
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: chance Patrick Sung would either be from Eminem or d

1161
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: m X. Today it was d m X all right now?

1162
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: Why because because there ain't no way anybody else is

1163
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: keeping up with the Panthers. There's no way they're just

1164
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: heading shoulders. That defense is going to carry the day.

1165
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: There's just no way. That ain't no way anybody else

1166
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: is gonna touch him in that division? Is that what

1167
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: the song is? Ain't no way? Nice? See that connects

1168
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: in a more linear fashion. Mark, not that yours didn't connect. Yeah,

1169
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need to take a shot because

1170
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: I don't. Maybe you know I was thinking about this

1171
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: division in a different way, from a different place. Uh.

1172
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: You know that's a good one, Patrick, because mine is

1173
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: very similar. Let's do some piggybacking. I am a God,

1174
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: I am God? Are we damn pressage? Are we damn manage?

1175
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 1: Is this Cam Newton? That's true? We haven't been talked

1176
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: about the defending MVP at all my life and a

1177
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: hand of God, y'all better quit playing with God. Yes,

1178
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: this is all about Cam Newton. Cam Newton, and he'll

1179
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: be the first to tell you is a god in

1180
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: the NFL right now. He is in his prime. As

1181
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: Mark said earlier, Devin Funches is ready to make the lead.

1182
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin's back, Greg Olsen is still in a picture.

1183
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewarts still productive, productive, He can do it all.

1184
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: Do you know any touchdowns Cam Newton had regular season

1185
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: end post season last year combined passing and running it feeling,

1186
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell us fifty touchdowns for this guy in

1187
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: all time, not just fantasy season, but quarterback season. And

1188
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: he didn't even really turn it on until the second

1189
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: half of the year. What happens, gentlemen, if Cam Newton

1190
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: picks up where he left off and does this for

1191
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks and yes, not everything, not everything is going

1192
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: to go to script away did last year. Maybe, but

1193
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: I still think Cam Newton, when it's all said and done,

1194
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: is the type of special, transcendent type player that lifts

1195
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: a team single handedly. We're talking about the tears and

1196
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: the ESPN quarterback rankings, that can lift an entire team

1197
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: to him alone makes this team better than everybody else.

1198
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: That's why the Panthers will continue to rule the South.

1199
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: He's a god. I can't argue with that we're on.

1200
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: You could try what if gets hurt? He gets hit

1201
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: a lot. He gets six games against pretty unimposing defenses

1202
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: in this division. That's nice. Gods Gods don't hurt. God

1203
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: don't get hurt, or they don't hurt people. God's definitely

1204
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: hurt people. They do it all. Finally, Greg, well, you

1205
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: know I had to mark. It's not like this one

1206
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: little random choice here. That is what I got from

1207
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: the drought three by little way, and you have to

1208
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: go back to New Orleans because that's what Drew Brees

1209
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: is gonna have after this year. That is what he's got.

1210
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna make the most crazy Tom Benson contract ever.

1211
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: When the Saints win this division this year and they

1212
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: bring it back to New or you really think that's

1213
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I do. I think they're gonna this defense

1214
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: they can win. Then I think talking about how bad

1215
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: their defense is, really I think their defense will be better.

1216
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: We don't need to get into a long uh spiel

1217
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: about it. I obviously the injuries to Sheldon Rankins and

1218
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: what's gone on recently not not helpful. But I think

1219
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: the offense is gonna be good enough. More more to

1220
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: the point, I think the Panther is gonna come back

1221
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: to Earth in ten eleven games, is gonna be right

1222
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: in the mix in this division. Okay, so the number

1223
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: to win the divisions eleven though, right, Yeah, ten eleven?

1224
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah, I mean what I just said,

1225
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna score a lot of points. Is

1226
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: the defense gonna lead to them losing one a lot?

1227
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: I kind of see that happening still, But maybe their

1228
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: their defense is okay every third year, I think without

1229
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: all the Rob Bryan coverage bus where you can't even

1230
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: figure out what the play call is, the secondary actually

1231
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: looks pretty decent on paper, Delvin bro I mean, the

1232
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: point is that Breeze is gonna light the world on fire,

1233
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: like you said, and and probably they're gonna give him wait,

1234
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: almost too much money because they let this contract ride

1235
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: out at the end of his career. Well, that would

1236
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: be a very Mickey Loomis thing to do. Is he's

1237
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: attempting to run the New Orleans Pelicans at the same time.

1238
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: I almost out a giant contractor Drew Brees when he's

1239
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: about to turn I almost went with a pretty awful

1240
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: song by Little Wayne where he where he actually raps

1241
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: about Drew Brees and Marcus Colston. I think Rhys the

1242
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: he rhymes expensive with Tom Benson, which I like, at

1243
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: least it's not the album where he's playing guitar um. Alright,

1244
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: anybody else see a playoff more than one playoff team

1245
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: coming out of this division? I don't, do, you see

1246
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: I do? I think the Panthers the Saints. For me,

1247
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: it would be the Bucks and the Panthers, but I don't.

1248
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: I think it's just Carolina. Okay, alright, good division talk, guys. Uh.

1249
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: Next up, either tomorrow Thursday or early next week, we

1250
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: will tackle the NFC West in our final preview of

1251
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: the National Football Conference. That's it for today's show. Thanks

1252
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: for sitting, Kevin, Thanks for Dan Hands signing off for

1253
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: the mail Man, Kevin, pat Truck coming at you. The

1254
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: Boss and the Irishman behind the Glass Stout Thursday, m