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Speaker 1: Right? What else was I gonna say? Who did the

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Speaker 1: It's something else I was thinking about doing before the show.

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Speaker 2: to give my condolences to Dexter. His father passed, So

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Speaker 4: shell guys. All right, so all kinds of stuff going on.

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Speaker 4: I almost don't know where to start. Well, actually, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I do know where to start. Our girl, Lauren Hill

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Speaker 1: That's right, Miss Hill, to medium dot com to clear

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Speaker 5: Blog post site?

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Speaker 1: Conda.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yep, that's not a dumb question. No, stupid questions

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Speaker 4: care only stupid people that won't shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 4: Free Medium account? I've read several of my Medium pieces

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Speaker 1: You can monetize it. You can make it so that

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so if you like a writer, you write

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of people that have attached their

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Speaker 1: Obviously, No, no hard feelings, but.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it's just but a lot of stuff is

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Speaker 4: and they feature you, and it's kind of a social

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Speaker 4: media interaction, like you get thumbs up. People can highlight

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Speaker 4: certain things that can share, certain stuff that can favorite

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Speaker 4: like this one passage and share it and share your

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Speaker 4: I should write more because you know, when I write

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Speaker 4: stuff on here, you know it does get pretty good,

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Speaker 4: like it does spread pretty well.

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Speaker 5: Cool.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Lauryn.

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Speaker 4: Hill, Miss Lauryn Hill, Gay, I gotta follow her.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I wasn't following her. Supposed to be

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Speaker 4: She uh, She wrote her own piece, addressing Robert Glasper

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Speaker 4: and the other common misconceptions about me, in no particular order.

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Speaker 4: Oh and I'm reading every motherfucking word. So strap in

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Speaker 4: your seats or lead the show. I don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 4: I remain patient and quiet for a very long time,

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Speaker 4: allow people to talk, speculate, and project, while keeping my

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Speaker 4: nose to the grindstone fighting for freedoms. Many folks aren't

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Speaker 4: even aware matter the arrogance of presumption that allows someone

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Speaker 1: It's truly remarkably presumptuous.

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Speaker 1: The arrogance of presumption is y'all being presumptuous. Agreed.

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Speaker 4: People can sometimes confuse kindness for weakness and silence for

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Speaker 1: When this happens, I have to speak up. Listen. She

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Speaker 4: Come on time with this feedback, but she still is

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Speaker 4: on Lauren Hill time, and that's what we needed. We

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Speaker 4: don't need you her to be She had to get

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Speaker 1: Okay, had to get all her chokers aligned.

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Speaker 5: Do I need to get some tea?

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Speaker 4: Maybe you do, I don't know. I apologize for the

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Speaker 3: Girl.

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Speaker 1: We are so over you being a little bit late. Okay,

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Speaker 1: will Ain't you worried about that?

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Speaker 5: Boo?

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Speaker 1: It's you. We cool, let's go. I was late in

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Speaker 4: I understand this is long, but my last interview was

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Speaker 4: of stuff to get off her chest. It's not completely

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Speaker 4: informed talking about Robert glasper but he's entitled to his perception.

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Speaker 4: Contact certainly helps, though, we'll give us some booth. You

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Speaker 4: may be able to make suggestions, but you can't write

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Speaker 4: for me. I'm the architect of my creative expression. No

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Speaker 4: decisions are made without me. I hire master builders and

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Speaker 4: masterful artistans and technicians who play beautifully, lend their technical expertise,

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Speaker 4: and who translate the language that I provide into beautifully

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Speaker 1: Which y'all know about that she hires masters.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but y'all mad that she uses that expertise in

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Speaker 4: her work. What kind of idiot is mad about that

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Speaker 4: these are my songs. Musicians are brought in because of

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Speaker 4: the masterful way that they play their instruments. I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of the things that Glasser said

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Speaker 4: an interaction. And she fires bands and she hires new

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Speaker 4: So these people took that lack of boundaries as it's

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Speaker 4: Oh remember when she said beautiful gowns about Taylor swift.

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Speaker 4: Remember she used to go into rooms like she'd have

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Speaker 4: That's a long life to have never had a span

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Speaker 4: you know, it's just we don't care, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: It's just more about the idea of the double standard

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Speaker 4: It's the one area where we look at women and go, well, nah,

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Speaker 1: It's like Prince won't let you look him in the eyes.

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Speaker 1: What a diva? Oh?

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Speaker 4: He's the greatest, you know, like we just do that,

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Speaker 4: the most part, like especially with rap, like it's kind

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Speaker 4: nobody want to hear that shit, or you stick around

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Speaker 4: too long and people go, that woman's crazy, she went crazy,

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Speaker 1: Does that to people anyway?

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Speaker 4: I have come across the occasional musician who thinks that

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Speaker 4: I definitely don't like to fire anyone. It did take

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Speaker 4: I'd literally grown up with some of those musicians. That

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Speaker 4: after disbanding my former support staff. No idea why any

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Speaker 4: But I would never just cut a musician's pay arbitrarily

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Speaker 4: People love those stories of him being like, if you

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Speaker 5: Like people rents a certain way, right.

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Speaker 1: It was necessary. Man. There was one person that was

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at it like, hey, maybe you need to

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Speaker 4: go handle whatever the fuck it is for you. That

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Speaker 4: even letting us know you couldn't be on the show

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Speaker 4: fuck it, we're still cool. Imagine me being out here

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Speaker 1: Imagine that that's some bullshit to me, you know, And

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Speaker 4: I hadn't worked with them since two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 4: Robert was tripping, he was out of pocket. It was

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Speaker 4: necessarily necessary for me to re establish trust and cultivate

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Speaker 4: I had left the machine and with it went some polish,

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Speaker 4: that you're hiring them to perform a service and that

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Speaker 1: I didn't scream and yell.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I didn't provide the experience that a musician may

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Speaker 4: same page anyway. Making no mistake, Addiction is a common

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: See, this is an unspoken part of with Lauryn Hill

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Speaker 4: that was wild is you know, with the coming off

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Speaker 4: in this world run by men who decide that to

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Speaker 4: And I think it's revision's history now to make it

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Speaker 1: And maybe she made some mistakes and maybe she made decisions.

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Speaker 4: That you wouldn't have made, but like she also had

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Speaker 4: to make a blueprint out of nothing, cause it wasn't

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Speaker 4: that God in hand wasn't gonna be there because men

444
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 4: at the time didn't understand.

445
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: What the fuck she wanted to be or want her

446
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: to be.

447
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 4: That it was show some midrid let's get them titty

448
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,719
Speaker 4: switched together, put on some makeup and do this.

449
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 1: And she was very much like a.

450
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 4: A minimalist and in terms of like fame, startom and

451
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 4: all that shit, like she kind of wanted to, I guess,

452
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 4: push away from all of it her on her live

453
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 4: album like Unplugged, Like you can kind of hear that,

454
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 4: you know, like I just think it's easier to dismiss.

455
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 4: And I mean I'm guilty of it too, because I

456
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 4: remember when the Unplugged album came out and my man

457
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 4: John shout out to John from college was super into

458
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 4: that album, and I was like, man, what happened to her?

459
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: You know, like did she go crazy? Like what the

460
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 1: fuck is this? You know?

461
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 4: And I remember feeling like bitter towards her, like she

462
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 4: owed me something like you know, like how you gonna

463
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 4: just fucking be so great and beautiful and.

464
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, and then you.

465
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 4: Just make this album where it's it's almost like anti

466
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 4: everything that people have projected for your career.

467
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: Everyone had projected her on this path to stardom that

468
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: was gonna be like everything. You know, she was even acting.

469
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 4: She had been a sister act too, and shit like

470
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 4: it was she was supposed to be it, you know

471
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,719
Speaker 4: what I mean, And because she never really wanted she

472
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 4: didn't want that as much as other people wanted it

473
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 4: for her. I think a lot of people got mad

474
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 4: at her about that. And I'm just a person that

475
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 4: has grown up and now fucking forty, and I'm like, well, yeah,

476
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 4: I never had any right to really be mad about

477
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: the fact that she would rather like raise her kids,

478
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 4: keep a low key life, and not chase this pursuit

479
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: of fame that people talked about. I still think if

480
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: she hadn't have got in trouble with the RS, she

481
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 4: probably would have never really went back on touring shit

482
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 4: if she could, if she.

483
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Speaker 1: Didn't want to correct.

484
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Speaker 4: Like real talk, I don't think she's I think a

485
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 4: lot of people push her to do something. She's you

486
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 4: know where it's just like, this is the right thing,

487
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 4: this is smart thing to do for your money. Don't

488
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 4: go to jail, nigga, And it's like, all right, I

489
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 4: guess I'll do it. But I don't think this is

490
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 4: necessarily what she uh what she will covet this whole,

491
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 4: the business part of it, not the music, but the

492
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 4: you know, the let's get glammed up let's, you know,

493
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: do twelve interviews with different magazines.

494
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: I don't think she likes it iny of this shit anyway.

495
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 4: She goes on to say, I don't think most people,

496
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 4: perhaps not even some celebrated artists, are aware the battle

497
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 4: it takes to be an artist that remain true to

498
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 4: what you really think. I don't even practice small talk,

499
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 4: so I'm never confused with someone who can be seduced.

500
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 4: There are traps all around. Who could look like a

501
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 4: successful career in entertainment today. What could look like a

502
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 4: successful career entertainment today could be an addictive lifestyle of

503
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 4: convenience attempted to control you tomorrow. I set the tone

504
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 4: with every band that working for fame and accolade is

505
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,479
Speaker 4: a different walk than fighting for personal integrity and make

506
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: an art that doesn't compromise itself for money. I'm confused

507
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 4: as to why such a principal musician who thought I

508
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 4: stole from his friends would show up to work for me. Anyway,

509
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: I'm saying I asked the same question if that was

510
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: If that was hypocrisy or opportunism instead of genuine interest,

511
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 4: it would further explain why an artist wouldeel the need

512
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 4: to put his or her guard up.

513
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: That's right, Like it's so weird. He came in with

514
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: bad energy, and then when.

515
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 4: I can't believe she didn't like me, it's like you

516
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: came in going you fucking thief. You don't have any

517
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 4: right to like uh, to hire and fire your bands.

518
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: You don't have any right to tell us to change shit.

519
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: You you gonna take what I want?

520
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 4: He was Daniel from Insecure, and then got mad at

521
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 4: her about the shit. I don't understand what the fuck

522
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: you work the relationship is. You work for her, that's it.

523
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 4: The only choice you really have is yes or no.

524
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 4: I'll take the check or no. You could have easily

525
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 4: said no if you will convince you. It was such

526
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: a fucking charlatan. I don't get it, and you still

527
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 4: got a Grudge's in decades anyway. Uh, No matter how

528
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 4: incredible the musicians who played with me are.

529
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: My name is on the marquee. The expectation to make

530
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: it all come together is on me.

531
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 4: The risk and financial losses are on me, hence my vibe,

532
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: though not the only consideration is the priority. I'm saying

533
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: if the show was fucked up because she said, y'all

534
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: just do what y'all want as musicians, just play it

535
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 4: the way y'all feel like playing. These motherfuckers will be

536
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: like Yep, Lauren Hill had a terrible concert. Not Lauryn Hill,

537
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: but it was really Robert Glassper. He did some things,

538
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 4: you know. And when it is fucked up, it's on her.

539
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: Nobody ever blamed her band. When it's fucked up, it's

540
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: just on her. That's it.

541
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 4: Few people actually know what the road is like, but

542
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 4: many want to judge and comment have having never done it.

543
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: Try doing what I've done yourself.

544
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: If nothing else, you will gain some insight into and

545
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: respect for my process. During the time of question, I

546
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 4: also believe I was playing a lot of new music

547
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 4: with controversial content. For me, rehearsal was about ready in

548
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 4: myself for the battle. I knew I was entering into

549
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 4: simply not allowing the system to pimp me. If I

550
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 4: was on edge, I had a good reason to be.

551
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: But that's my series.

552
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 4: Bousness and militancy in the face of tremendous resistance was

553
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: misinterpreted its meanness, or that I was unloving or uncaring

554
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: with My true intent was to protect. I wouldn't have,

555
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 4: but I wouldn't be the first black person accused of this.

556
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 4: I don't think of Harriet Tubman's skills as those of

557
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: a hostess man. This is a second black woman, and

558
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 4: bring on Harry Tumming this week, but rather her relentless

559
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: dedication to helping people who want it out of an

560
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: oppressive paradigm hashtag I get out. People also unwilling to

561
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: play the game might have found that environment.

562
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: It refreshing. Straight talk isn't devoid of love, it's just

563
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: devoid of bullshit. Yeah. I think if anything, what she

564
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: what she overestimated people was thinking that they would come

565
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: and be like on her shit because she's.

566
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: In an industry that I think is designed to do

567
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: the exact opposite of what she wants to do. And

568
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: so if you don't express that upfront and very vocal

569
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 4: about it, especially since she didn't do any interviews about

570
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 4: it and she took such a long time off, I

571
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 4: can see how musician coming into that would be like, nah,

572
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: we just do it like I do it for everybody else,

573
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: and she's like, that's not the goal, Like I actually

574
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: don't want to just go out here and play the

575
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 4: same songs and shit, I actually want to change it up.

576
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: It's like, nah, I as a musician, I don't want

577
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 4: to do that. It's like, wow, let's get you know,

578
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: I do want to get famous. I do want it

579
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 4: to be easy, you know, which I can't blame a

580
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 4: musician because I understand, like everybody wants their job to

581
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: be easy. And just to clip of an old urban

582
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: legend that somehow people still believe, I do not hate

583
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 4: white people. I do, however, despise the system of entitlement

584
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: and the pression setup to exploit people who are different.

585
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: I do see this seems like it came out of nowhere.

586
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: It didn't.

587
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 4: One of the main reasons she had her career derail

588
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: is because a quote was basically attributed to her a

589
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 4: long ago, a long time ago that basically made it

590
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 4: sound like she was anti white people. And it was

591
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: easy to believe because of the natural hair and the

592
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: you know, the dark skin, and the fact that she

593
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 4: was quote unquote crazy, and so it ended up becoming

594
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: like Lauryn Hill hates white people, and so a lot

595
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 4: of people.

596
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: Ran with that shit, and that shit stuck. Like it's funny.

597
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 4: When I was younger, I was like, oh, that shit'll

598
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: be you know, like that's a blip in the plant

599
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: pan and shit. But nah, that shit really did did

600
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: stick in a way that was kind of kind of

601
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 4: weird because it's like she said that shit in like

602
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: the height of her career and now it's twenty eighteen. Yeah,

603
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: you know, uh yeah. During the MTV interview singer Lauryn Hill,

604
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: the claim is this is on snows the claim what

605
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: she said, I would rather die than have a white

606
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 4: person buy one of my albums.

607
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: It's false.

608
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: In the nineteen ninety six a Collee Howard Stern showed

609
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: claim Lauryn Hill with the Fuji's made anti white statements

610
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: during the MTV interview to the effect of claiming she'd

611
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 4: rather see her child starve than have a white kid

612
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 4: by her album Circulate. The rumors are about the inflammatory

613
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 4: comment He'll supposedly made. Verify varied from telling to telling,

614
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: including statements such as if I know white people were

615
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 4: gonna buy my album, I would have never recorded it.

616
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: I would rather have my children starve than have white

617
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: people buy my albums. I'd rather die than have a

618
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: white person buy one of my albums. When I asked

619
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: on MTV about the feelings of having a number one album,

620
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: that nation, the Fuji said they'd rather see baby star

621
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: and die than have white kids by the album. These

622
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: are the quotes that people said.

623
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 5: That statement makes no sense.

624
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: Right, but that's that's that's not what happened.

625
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: If they said that or any other member of the

626
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 4: Fujis had said anything like that on TV anywhere else,

627
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: the tape of those remarks would have been had to

628
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: done forever that no one could produce such a tape

629
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 4: or even agreed on what is said by whom. How

630
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: should have driven a stake through the rumors hard MTV

631
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 4: would later announce the allegation against Hill wasn't true, but.

632
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: By then it was too late. The rumor was already

633
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: in motion. In the wake of the controversy, Hill did

634
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: call the Howard Sterns Show the twenty first of May

635
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, It's twenty eighteen, though.

636
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 5: Good to repute in high school right.

637
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: To rebuke the comment, and on numerous other occasions she

638
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: did not say anything remotely resembling that statement credited to her.

639
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: During the MTV taping.

640
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety eight, for example, she maintained, you know,

641
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: everybody has to be really careful, you know what they

642
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 4: what they read and hear, because you never know what's true,

643
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: you know. A couple of years ago, some kid had

644
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: heard that I'd said that I didn't want white people

645
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: to buy my records, and that really really hurt me

646
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: a great deal because I like to think that my

647
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 4: music is really universal, you know, and I've been everywhere

648
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: and I have fans everywhere. But because of some rumor

649
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: that you know, some radio personality chose to, you know,

650
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: to say on his radio show, he had a bunch

651
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: of people believing something that they'd never seen or never

652
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: hurt themselves, but just a rumor. She said, in was

653
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: re sponse to her critics, She offered explanation. What I

654
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: did say was that I loved my people, Black people

655
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 4: and would continue to make music for them. Lauren In

656
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: says that she wants people to understand her goal to

657
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: improve the self love of young African American women should

658
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: never be confused with advocating racial supremacy.

659
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: That's interesting.

660
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: I see a lot of people claim to agree with that,

661
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: but they're the same people running around laughing at Lauren Hill.

662
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: Now, it's just interesting.

663
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: There are a lot of young black girls who I

664
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: meet in travels.

665
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: In my travels who don't have a lot of self esteem,

666
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: she explained, So I communicate to them that that beautiful,

667
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: no white white person should find fault in that it

668
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that young white girls aren't.

669
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 4: Beautiful, because they are just as beautiful. So yeah, I

670
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: don't understand. I guess it's like the Tommy Hill figure

671
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: rumor that he was racist against black people and that

672
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: just nobody confirmed that niggas just chose to believe. So anyway,

673
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: kind of interesting to see her have to take this

674
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: since she ain't talked about nothing in ten years. She's like,

675
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: and let me remind y'all again, case y'all trying to

676
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: make up motion. This is another reason I think she's

677
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 4: super protective and out of the spotlight because of that

678
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 4: shit happening to her.

679
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's just weird because she has a story

680
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: of like.

681
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: Some really weird, unfair controversy and shit, and she may

682
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 4: have some personal feelings and shit. Nobody's perfect, obviously, but

683
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 4: it's like people have exacerbated it to a point where

684
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, what's the goal here, Like, what do y'all

685
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: get out of shitting on Lauren Hill?

686
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand, you know, but.

687
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do load the promotion and persev perseverance, perseverance

688
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 4: of perseverance, preservation, promotion and preservation of said system at

689
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 4: the expense of other people. And the racism and the

690
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: title attitudes against rods to the lengthy history of unfairness

691
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: and brutality towards people of color, especially Black people, has

692
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 4: not been fully acknowledged or corrected. The expectation is for

693
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: us to live with abuse, distortion, and deliberate policies meant

694
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: to outright control and contain us while we're not aware

695
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: of our basic right to freedom.

696
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: I resist and reject these ideas completely.

697
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: Like many Black people, I work the reconcile my own

698
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 4: generational PTSD. I do my best to love, pursue freedom

699
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: and body spirit in mind, and to confront to repress

700
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: any Everything in the name of getting along is to

701
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: the not our right to healing. It's an ugly, distorting

702
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 4: and complicating, complicated history.

703
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: At best.

704
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: We've been shaped by it, for better or worse. I

705
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: just choose not to pretend that it's not there. In

706
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: order to maintain public approval and gain economic advantage. My

707
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: true white friends and colleagues and I discussed these skins

708
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 4: and machinations and distrust that people of color would naturally

709
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: have towards such a system and towards those.

710
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: Who agree with it.

711
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: We don't run from those conversations, We run into them,

712
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: which is why I can call them friends and colleagues.

713
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: Within these relationships, I could be my complete self, not

714
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 4: a splintered individual. So repressing the truth about generations and generations.

715
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: Of abuse, man, that's beautiful. Fuck y'all.

716
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 4: There were lots of issues both personal and in the

717
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: world of entertainment during that period that needed resolved. I

718
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: was definitely going through a significant transition. I no longer

719
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: felt safe. Yes see, like I said, it's just fucking

720
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 4: weird because, like I see these same niggas out here

721
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: promoting self care and don't grind yourself to a halt.

722
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: And all this bull it's such bullshit is.

723
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: They don't believe any of this shit. It's somebody telling you,

724
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: Like yo, I was fucked up. So I had to

725
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: take a break. I had to change the way I

726
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: interact with people. Several things happening that caused me to

727
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 4: mistrust dealing with fucking people, people suing me, saying the

728
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: songs that I thought we had an understanding with mine.

729
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: They're saying, nah, we want more money and we want

730
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: credit for your shit. Okay, y'all don't normally do that

731
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 4: with everybody, but that's fucked up. You had Wyklet who

732
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 4: is supposed to be a partner and a mentor to

733
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: her career that ends up having an affair with her

734
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: and then dropping her, you know, like going back to

735
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: his wife or whatever.

736
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: Like that shit was fucked up.

737
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 4: Then you had to quote attribute it to her that

738
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 4: she hated white people like she was at a point

739
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 4: where she was it's a lot of shit, yes, she

740
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 4: got it's this is a lot of shit, you know people,

741
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: And the songs is zion what she's talking about when

742
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 4: she's like people was telling me to get an abortion

743
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: and not have a kid because my career is supposed

744
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 4: to be more important than you.

745
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: And she wrote that song she's I mean, I kept

746
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: thinking about that.

747
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: She was like twenty two writing that song, and that

748
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 4: song is so beautiful and deep and inspirational. And if

749
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: motherfuckers really are on some like I don't know, it's

750
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: like it's just I don't know if it's some sheep

751
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: shit or what. It's just so easy to watch people

752
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: just be like, Nah, fuck her, throw it to the side.

753
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: That's it. We got what we got out of her.

754
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: The end is yeah.

755
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: And that's one thing about being quote unquote famous is

756
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: that we talked about before, but a lot of people.

757
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 5: Really and truly strip the.

758
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: Humanity out of everybody else but themselves, Like like when

759
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: it comes to them, and as they get bigger and

760
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: as there, you know, the light gets bigger on them,

761
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they want everybody else to treat

762
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: them with humanity, and that you know they won't. But

763
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: when they look at somebody who's bigger than them, you

764
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: don't have the same compassion and empathy and sympathy.

765
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 5: That you want for yourself.

766
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: And the way the system is designed, the system is

767
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: designed to work you to death. It's literally designed to

768
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: work you to death until we can't get nothing else.

769
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 5: Out of you.

770
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: And once you drop dead, we'll just go get something

771
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: else to replace you. And so that's why people that

772
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: have any form of longevity a lot of times they

773
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: are in the spotlight, but they limit their spotlight. They

774
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: limit their interaction with press, you know, and things like that.

775
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: Like that's real. You know, people can say what they

776
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: want to say about Beyonce, but that she did years ago.

777
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 5: She just don't do.

778
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: You just can't, particularly in my opinion, particularly being brown

779
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: and being a brown woman. It's one of those things

780
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: where you're constantly a target.

781
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 5: Everything about you.

782
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: Is beating judged.

783
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about let's talk about Beyonce. Beyonce don't

784
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: do interviews either. No, Beyonce has an entire wall around

785
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 4: her to make sure that the fame part of her

786
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 4: life is separate from her life life. Right, and motherfucker's

787
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 4: thought that shit was weird, turns out she was ten

788
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 4: years ahead of the game via social media, TMZ, blogs

789
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 4: and shit. She turned out to be absolutely correct that

790
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 4: the only way to truly live some semblance of a

791
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 4: happy life while being uber fucking famous is to basically

792
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: partition your life away from everybody else. Come out when

793
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 4: you want to come out, say what you want to say.

794
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 4: Always control your own message, your own narrative. To the

795
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: point where she used to sue people for putting pictures

796
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 4: of her on the Internet that were like purposely they

797
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: would try to like take a picture of her while

798
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: she was making a face or something like that and

799
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 4: be like, look how ugly she is. Look how strong

800
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: she her legs look, and she like she had to

801
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 4: go out and fight for that. And Lauren's a person

802
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 4: that's like, I fight for this in a different way

803
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 4: where it's more like I fight for my personal space

804
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: and for my life to be private and for it

805
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: because I don't want to do that shit. I fight

806
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 4: for my creative and artistic integrity. And I'm like, but dog, like,

807
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: what's so bad about that? And it's not like I'm

808
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: out here just caping or standing for somebody that I

809
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 4: feel like is truly a reprehensible person. Like it's not

810
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 4: like she's out here on some Mozaia Bank shit talking

811
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 4: shit about everybody and then she can't take it when

812
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: somebody got something to say bad about her.

813
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: This is not that, you know.

814
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: This is a nigga minage, you know, trying to do

815
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: everything to distract from my album being a flop and

816
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: bringing everybody's business up and saying, y'all niggas should thank

817
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: me because you know, I'm the hair telling, the streaming

818
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: or whatever the fuck. Like, this isn't that, you know.

819
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: It's just weird to see people turn on her. So

820
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: it's weird how the benture out to me. Doesn't match

821
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 4: the offense because essentially the offense is she didn't show

822
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 4: up to some concerts, okay, but it requires like, we

823
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 4: gotta treat her like she's zayar bangs.

824
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: We gotta treat her like she's Nigga Minaj. You gotta

825
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: treat her like she's like.

826
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: Some horrible evil person now because she's quote unquote arrogant

827
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 4: for believing in herself.

828
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: You niggas are the ones that's mad about an album

829
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: from twenty years ago. Clearly it must have been hot.

830
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: Clearly she did something right for.

831
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: Y'all to be so mad about her this shit. Anyway,

832
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: there's an entire attire album about that. It's document. It's

833
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: called lauryn Hill MTV Unplugged. For some, the unplug album

834
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: provided useful insight during dark times, gave important context on

835
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: some real beheading issues, and help people going through personal struggles.

836
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 4: Because I'd expose myself in such a raw and vulnerable state,

837
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: Who are you to say I didn't do it enough?

838
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: Most people are probably just hearing your name for the

839
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: first time because you dropped mine in an interview, controversially,

840
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 4: taking nothing away from your talent.

841
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: But this is a fact that's true. I barely heard

842
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: of Robert Classer until he did that and be talking

843
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: shit about Lauren Hill.

844
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: I didn't know who he was, so be mad about

845
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: it if you won't. But that's the truth, and he

846
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 4: knows it. The mis Education was my only solo album,

847
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: but it certainly wasn't the only good thing I did, right.

848
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: That's the other.

849
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 4: This shit is like how people hate on Andre three

850
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 4: thousand when you be like, yo, are three thousand one

851
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: of my favorite rappers alive and maybe the best rapper

852
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: we're He did albums with outcasts and bitch, you listen

853
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: to all of them?

854
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: What the fuck you talking about?

855
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 5: Wait?

856
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: What does this mean? What's like the fuck?

857
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: Like?

858
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: Rap? Ain't no relay racing? Nigga?

859
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 4: I know his verses cause he dope. What the fuck

860
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 4: are we talking about? But it's different like that Nigga

861
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: stop rapping and y'all still be mad when he come

862
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: around once a year and drop off a present like

863
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: an absentee.

864
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: Father, Like come back Andre, cause he was that fucking dope. Yes,

865
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: But then you always though you extra fucking qualifiers into equation,

866
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: like well it can't be this that man? The album

867
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: stood to test the time. Then the shit. Then the

868
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: ship stand up. I don't know what to tell you.

869
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 4: I throw in miseducation right now, everybody gonna be in

870
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: here rocking. It's the fucking truth. And then you got

871
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: the Fuji albums when she carried prose no disrepect prize.

872
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: But come on, she carried prose ass. No other divers

873
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 4: ever done that. That's like Aretha Franklin just having like

874
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 4: silk the Shaka and every third verse of her album,

875
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: y'all would be like, oh goodness, she must have been talented,

876
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 4: because how the hell we get.

877
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: Past these versus fuck out of here?

878
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 4: God damn it, man, people are crazy, Like that's what

879
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 4: makes it so easy to be in the ant hill

880
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: is because people have gone too far. Like if it

881
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: was just some casual like jokes about her being late, okay,

882
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 4: but this ship was like she don't even even after

883
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 4: ten years of keeping it to herself, she don't get

884
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 4: to come out and be like, well, this is how

885
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 4: this is my side of things.

886
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: Oh bitch, go away, we already made we already made

887
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: our minds up. Fuck out of here.

888
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: I was also a member of the Fuji is, another groundbreaking,

889
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 4: multi platinum selling groove who Bridge is Robert glass for

890
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: selling like this.

891
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: Is this what's happening?

892
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: Is he out selling the Fujis and miseducation? And nobody

893
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: told me because maybe that's what it is. I'm over

894
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: here judging. Turns out Robert glassper is the Lauryn Hill

895
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 4: of jazz and I've just been tripping and he got

896
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 4: more record sales and Lauren And if you niggas right

897
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 4: up in here talking some more shit about Laurence Hill,

898
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: I'm cussing y'all out this weekend. This is not a game. Okay,

899
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 4: this is not joke. I will cut your black ass out.

900
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: Don't even do it. Stop sending the even delete the

901
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: fucking email right now, put it in your draft fold

902
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: to keep the chuckles to yourself. I'm dead serious right now.

903
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 4: I was also a member of the Fuji Is, another groundbreaking,

904
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: multi platinum selling groove who bridge social and cultural gaps

905
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: and where Ambassador is a hip hop all around the planet.

906
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: We played important groundwork upon which in.

907
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 4: Entire generation of artists and musicians still stand. We broke

908
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: through conventions and challenge limited world views. Every time we

909
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 4: played the song to Zion, gave encouragement to women during

910
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 4: challenging pregnancies, children who were giving a chance at life

911
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: because their mother's experienced moral and emotional support through this song.

912
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: I guarantee that's true. What about the image of black

913
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: women in hip hop?

914
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: When exposure and sexualization of the black female body was

915
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 4: a standard, someone stood up and represented a different image

916
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: entirely given a generation of young women options and our

917
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: turned to a self representation hashtat amnesia.

918
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: It's the truth, though. Motherfucker's really mad that she It's

919
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: like the Kanye thing, where like something like obviously not now,

920
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: but when Kanye used to say shit and they he'd

921
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: be like, I'm the voice of a generation. Motherfuckers get

922
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: mad because he said it.

923
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: But like if Rolling Stone would right, Kanye is the

924
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: voice of a generation, they'd be like, well, that's true.

925
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: Some white man said that that's not Kanye West, so

926
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: it's true. When they said she was just very cognizant

927
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: of her image at the time, man, She's like, yo,

928
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: I know I was different. I know when I showed

929
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 4: up to the fucking award shows and everybody else had

930
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 4: on a fucking throng and I had on a goddamn.

931
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: Head wrap and some jeans and a T shirt.

932
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: I know I was being different, you know, and not

933
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 4: saying these other people or worse, I'm saying I was different,

934
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: and it gave people options that also had dreams of aspiration.

935
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 4: It was like, so I don't have to just be

936
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 4: the wide leg pussy poles NICKI minaj to make it.

937
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: You know.

938
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 4: They even tried to sex up the brat and y'all

939
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 4: motherfuckers would tell.

940
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: Me that she's that Lawrence tripping.

941
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: They had the brat out here in bikinis and shit,

942
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 4: trying to make a comeback, you know, good and god

943
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: damn well. They was like, listen to Brad, we know

944
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: you ain't even in the dick or nothing. We need

945
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: you to put your tennis out.

946
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: I know. I know it's crazy to us too.

947
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 4: I know you went from like looking like a cholo

948
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: and shit, you got to get them tedties out, okay,

949
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 4: because men have decided we are not buying nothing.

950
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: We can't jack off to fuck that ugh anyway. And

951
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: let's not forget that I am a mother of six.

952
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: Come on, never.

953
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: She never put her family to the side to do

954
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: her shit, which is something we pretty much ask of

955
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: all all.

956
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: Women entertainers men.

957
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: You know, we expect it because men ain't shit, but

958
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 4: women we like. People got pissed when Beyonce said motherhood

959
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 4: was her proudest achievement and like white women specifically like motherhood.

960
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: How dare them bitches?

961
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: And all they talk about they talk about his motherhood

962
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: when you They do them goddamn interviews, They.

963
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 4: On their mo They on nam Mommy blog talking about

964
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 4: come on, talking about some I don't just don't get it.

965
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: Come on you you and Apple and grape and orange

966
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: taking pictures on your iPhone posting them on Instagram.

967
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 5: And how I love my kids. Get the fuck out

968
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 5: of here.

969
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be a Ceoh Beyonce, and you're here

970
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: talking about being a mother is a goal.

971
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 4: Not only have i been instrumental and pushing forward the

972
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 4: culture of live music and hip hop for decades now,

973
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 4: but I've been traveling with and employing a large band

974
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: for many years, despite the economic challenges in doing so.

975
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 4: Other others have followed in my foot that seeing the

976
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: value of live music. Show me an artist work and

977
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 4: now who hasn't been directly influenced by the work I

978
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: put in, And I'll show you the artist who's been

979
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 4: influenced by the artist who's been directly influenced by the

980
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 4: work that I put in. I was and continue to

981
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 4: be a door opener, even if the blind don't see

982
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 4: it and prideful are too proud to admit it. I

983
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 4: lived this, you watched this and heard about it. Oh,

984
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: she was in her bag right then, she was talking

985
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 4: her shit.

986
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Whoop she got she got high for a sex.

987
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 4: She's like, and you broke ass ungrateful, that's what I

988
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 4: want to say next ninety seven point nine in the box.

989
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: Feel free to play my music if you agreed that

990
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 4: I haven't done enough. I never told anyone not to

991
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: look me in the eye. That may have been something

992
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 4: someone said, assuming.

993
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: No what I wanted.

994
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: However, I would understand why an artist would say that.

995
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: It's about reaching the level of vulnerability while making our music,

996
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 4: play your art, or making or playing your art, and

997
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: not wanting to worry about being examined while you're in

998
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 4: the process.

999
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: So she's like, I didn't even say that shit.

1000
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: So now y'all took a whole lass line ran with

1001
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: it for weeks, and now she's like, I.

1002
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: Didn't even say that. Uh well, you are arrogant motherfucker.

1003
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 4: Anyway, I don't like you. There are plenty of people,

1004
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 4: I'm sure who think they know me. This can happen

1005
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: when you do anything that people love or feel that

1006
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 4: they can relate to the perception of me. However, doesn't

1007
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 4: make it a reality. Sister Act Too is a movie.

1008
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: Rita Watson is a character I played in a movie

1009
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 4: for those confusing that with real life. And yes, Miss

1010
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 4: Hill was absolutely a requirement. I was young, black and female.

1011
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 4: Not everyone can work for and give the appropriate respect

1012
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 4: to a person in that package and in charge.

1013
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: It was important, especially then, for that to be revealed early.

1014
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 4: Listen, Okay, how many women do I do we know

1015
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: that are fucking professors, doctors and motherfuckers?

1016
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: Really will be like.

1017
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: Missus such and such, Nigga, I have a degree.

1018
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 5: Who you talking to the door of my office?

1019
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: Is doctor blankety blank blank?

1020
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1021
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: Not Auntie.

1022
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: I ain't got out the alphabets for nothing, bitch, call

1023
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: me a goddamn doctor.

1024
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 5: Right.

1025
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 4: It's just weird that she can't bring this up because

1026
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 4: I see motherfuckers. I see the same motherfuckers who bring

1027
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: this shit up in retrospect to their workplace and their

1028
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 4: lives about the lack of response respect for being a

1029
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: black woman. Key ken about the lack of respect this

1030
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: black woman received, because it's funny because she was latest

1031
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 4: some concerts you got damn.

1032
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: Hypocrites, weird those.

1033
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 4: I adore Stevie and honor Herbie and Quincy who are forebears,

1034
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 4: but they're not women. Men often say, can say I

1035
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 4: want it done like this and not be challenged. Come on,

1036
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 4: the same rules don't apply, always apply for women who

1037
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 4: may be met with resistance. When this happens, you replace

1038
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 4: that player with someone who respects you and the office

1039
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 4: you hold.

1040
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: Right right, because at the end of the day, it's

1041
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: particularly being.

1042
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 5: A female and being over men in general.

1043
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: A lot of men have a problem with women being

1044
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: in charge, and you you know, some don't, but a

1045
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 2: lot fucking do, And a lot of times they don't

1046
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: respect a woman until she, god damn pull rank and

1047
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: say I'm not here for your bullshit, Like you have

1048
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: to almost show your ass like oh sheit serious, Like

1049
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: they will challenge you till you got to be like

1050
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: motherfucker I said, blah.

1051
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah blah.

1052
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: Like that's what's wild to me is even during Robert

1053
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 4: Glass's interview he made. He made a point of saying

1054
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 4: how he called her Lauren instead of miss Hill, right,

1055
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: And I'm like, dog.

1056
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: Just do what the fuck she told you to do.

1057
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 4: I don't understand why this is such, but we can't

1058
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 4: examine you.

1059
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: But why is that such a big deal to you

1060
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: that she wanted to be addresses miss Hill? You don't

1061
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: know her and you're working for her. What the fuck?

1062
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: What's the problem?

1063
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 4: Don't take the gig if you that fucking I need

1064
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 4: to tell you by your first name, Like, get the

1065
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: fuck out of here. You just didn't respect their coming

1066
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 4: into the door, and then you wanted to ride the

1067
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 4: wave of all this fucking internet outrage that people have

1068
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 4: so you could be like ha ha's like I clowned it

1069
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 4: to y'all. Fuck out of here, man, are y'all even

1070
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 4: fans of here? Is of y'all just fans of the

1071
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: fact you talk shit about Lauren Hill? Anyway? My approach

1072
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: to take to making music is non traditional, possibly non linear,

1073
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 4: and more of a product of my heart soul, an

1074
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 4: experienced game through doing than something I was taught in

1075
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 4: formal school. Seting not much different than the genre hip

1076
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: hop itself. I never helped myself out of some accomplished

1077
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: guitar player. I play to articulate better to seasoned players

1078
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 4: what I want. It's an instrument I learned without any

1079
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: real lessons or instruction. I play in an unorthodox manner,

1080
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: and I use it as a writing tube. Couldn't couldn't

1081
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 4: or didn't tune my own guitar. That sounds like an assumption.

1082
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: I make rehearsal. I take rehearsal seriously. I take performance seriously.

1083
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: I take my art seriously. MY particular preparation process suits

1084
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: me to each his.

1085
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Or her own. My goal is to feel confident, in

1086
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: free on stage. I don't think my.

1087
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: Process for everyone, which is why my why bad selection

1088
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 4: is so important. It's not just about how well someone plays,

1089
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: but also their attitude. I'm not offending when people say

1090
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: it's not for them, no more than they should be

1091
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 4: offended when I say this doesn't work for me. Auditioning,

1092
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 4: by the way, may have nothing to do with how

1093
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: good a musician is. If a musician isn't accomplished, he

1094
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 4: or she wouldn't have been called That's yeah.

1095
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: That was the other weird part.

1096
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,479
Speaker 4: Like Nigga getting in the door for her doesn't mean like, well,

1097
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 4: you got the gig the end I heard you play,

1098
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 4: She's like, no, I want some different shit. You might

1099
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: show up and have been an accomplished position musician and

1100
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: hate my style of rehearsal.

1101
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: Then you want to dip out, and now I'm fucked because.

1102
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 4: You know, like your ego is too big to follow

1103
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: what the fuck I want to do? So now I'm

1104
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: fucked because you couldn't handle it. And I've known as

1105
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 4: the person that just fires musicians and shit. Now an

1106
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: audition of meaning could be about whether we vibe well,

1107
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 4: whether they understood my particular musical vernacular or direction at

1108
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: the time. I could have a jazz beast on keys

1109
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 4: who couldn't necessarily play reggae or some other musical style

1110
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 4: also in corporated incorporated into my performances. My sound is eclectic.

1111
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: I've been influenced by a wide variety of music. Like language,

1112
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 4: music is all easily translatable. Someone could be a great player,

1113
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 4: but lack of the ability to catch her the feel

1114
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: of the groove of a particular style. I'm attracted to

1115
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 4: musicians that are open and excited to try new things.

1116
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 4: When people think they already know what needs to be

1117
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: known and are and are interested in exploring that what

1118
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 4: I'm into. That's fine, but it doesn't work for my band.

1119
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 4: A fair weather band is a complete impracticality or liability either.

1120
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 4: Even I'm I'm expected through my art to pour out

1121
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: the depths of my soul.

1122
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: Some days that's easier than others.

1123
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: If the crewe people supporting me aren't built for that walk,

1124
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 4: they shouldn't be there. Hashtag real talk. Some people vibe

1125
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: well together, some don't. It's okay. Ignorant patriarchy is a bitch.

1126
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: Though I could see I could speak volumes. My standards

1127
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 4: are too high, My process is too idiosyncratic not to

1128
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: work with people who really want to be there. When

1129
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 4: I don't have that, I keep searching until I find them.

1130
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 4: I remix my songs live because I haven't released an

1131
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 4: album in several years.

1132
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: There's a ton of backstory as to why.

1133
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: But there's no way I could continue to play the

1134
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 4: same songs over and over and over as long as

1135
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: I've been performing them without some variation and exploration.

1136
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a robot. Yeah, that's the other thing.

1137
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 4: People really just want her to go and perform that album,

1138
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 4: and she's like, well, I can perform that album, but

1139
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 4: it's gonna have to sound different.

1140
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: It's like I can't just keep doing the same shit.

1141
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 4: If I had an additional music out, perhaps I would

1142
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: have kept them as they were. I didn't, so I

1143
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 4: revised and rearranged them according to what I feel I'm

1144
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 4: feeling in the moment. This way, my performances our heartfelt

1145
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 4: and authentic, not me just going through the motions. I

1146
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: can't imagine why that would be a foreign concept to

1147
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 4: anyone who appreciates jazz exactly Robert, and the myth that

1148
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 4: I'm not allowed to play the original version of my

1149
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 4: song is a myth.

1150
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: Anyone who's seen my current show knows this. That was

1151
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: the other thing.

1152
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 4: Everybody who went to the concerts and reported back was like, nah,

1153
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 4: she did the songs.

1154
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't understand, like people yeah, yeah, on the.

1155
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 4: Miseducation toward she's doing the music. Like I said, be

1156
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 4: mad she didn't show up to the show. I understand

1157
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 4: if it's your ticket, especially I get it. But a

1158
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 4: lot of you niggas are sitting at home just mad,

1159
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 4: and y'all needed somebody to be mad at, and here

1160
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 4: she come. They can also be an energetic or emotional

1161
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: transference when I perform, and it can be heavy and

1162
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 4: weighty at times. As an artist, I'm tasked with bringing

1163
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 4: a different vibration into the space that transcends.

1164
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: This not an easy gig, but an important one.

1165
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 4: I can imagine there are people who value this process

1166
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 4: and don't mind waiting a little if it means experience.

1167
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: It's something that's fired, That's what I'm saying. Gotta get

1168
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: them chockers in line so she can come out there

1169
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: and change the whole energy.

1170
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 4: Of the situation. But y'all niggas don't really care about

1171
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 4: self care. I see me being late to shows isn't

1172
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 4: because I don't respect my fans of that time. But

1173
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 4: the contrary, it can be argued that I care too

1174
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 4: much and assist on things being right. I like to

1175
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 4: switch my show up regularly, change arrangement, add new songs,

1176
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 4: et cetera. This often leads the long sound checks, which

1177
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: leads the doors open and lay, which leads to the

1178
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 4: show getting a late start. This element perfectionism isn't about

1179
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 4: one of the audience to experience it. I mean it

1180
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 4: is about when the audiences experienced the very best and

1181
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 4: most authentic musical experience they can from what I do.

1182
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, that one is bullshit, And I feel y'all,

1183
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: I get you on that. I'm not even mad at y'all.

1184
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: That one is bullshit.

1185
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 4: Like other artists figured the way out, Lauren didn't reinvent

1186
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 4: the wheel when it came to this shit, then they

1187
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 4: need to start earlier, or they need to do something

1188
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 4: to day before, Like it has to be some type

1189
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: of process.

1190
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: It's becoming a thing.

1191
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 4: It's becoming an albatross around your neck and around your performances.

1192
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 4: She's clearly decided to live with this and that people

1193
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 4: just gonna have to be mad at her, and that's

1194
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 4: on her.

1195
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't want.

1196
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 4: People to take because I'm being serious today, I don't

1197
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 4: want people to take my defense of her as just

1198
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 4: like ridiculous, because like you know, sometimes I am ridiculous

1199
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 4: at this shit where I'm like, aha, if she like y'all, nigga.

1200
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: Need to play a board game, you know.

1201
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 4: But But in all seriousness, I get why people would

1202
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: be upset with the ideas spending hard earned money and

1203
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 4: somebody shows up like that ain't even like that.

1204
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: Big a deal, you know what I mean?

1205
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: Like as far as like if you got a problem

1206
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: with her, But something this shit, man, niggas is overlapping

1207
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 4: into like like complete disrespect.

1208
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: It's like niggas not even like what are you doing?

1209
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: Like she not even like she didn't take your money?

1210
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Like? We can't admit none of

1211
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: this shit was true, None of this could have affected

1212
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: her nothing. But I think people like to.

1213
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 4: Hold out the concerts she missed as like definitive proof

1214
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 4: of well I get to then shit on everything about her,

1215
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 4: And I'm like, y'all didn't do that for Aretha. You know,

1216
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 4: y'all not gonna do that for Scissor whose voice is

1217
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 4: fucked up now and can't perform, Like we're not. We're

1218
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: not gonna do that for everybody. Come on, man, we

1219
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 4: pick and choose who you do that with. That's all,

1220
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 4: you know. Not everybody's as as beyond as able to

1221
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 4: handle the ship like it's Beyonce.

1222
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: That's why she's Beyonce, you know. And maybe that's what

1223
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: it is.

1224
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 4: Maybe it's disappointment turning into anger, But I just think

1225
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 4: people should check their anger on this shit, because I

1226
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 4: don't think it's that. I don't think I think people

1227
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 4: are being more angry than they have a right to be.

1228
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 4: In my opinion, I reject being pigeonhole of pinning down

1229
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 4: by someone else's undeformed concept to me and own my

1230
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: own person fritic spoil my potential. Like everyone else, where

1231
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: I am in one chapter of my life isn't necessarily

1232
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 4: where I'll be in the next chapter. I reserved the

1233
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 4: right to be an honest artist in those moments, and

1234
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 4: not a fabrication, fake and phony version of myself because

1235
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 4: that's what someone else likes. I don't owe anyone's self repression.

1236
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: Some fans will grow with me and some won't, and

1237
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 4: that's okay. Life is to be lived, and it's not

1238
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 4: a full time performance you put on for others so people.

1239
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: Won't have bad things to say about you in interviews.

1240
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Everybody can learn from that.

1241
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 4: Hip hop was born through people who didn't necessarily have

1242
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 4: traditional musical training, the best tools, and in some cases

1243
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 4: even instruments, but find a way to express themselves. Despite that,

1244
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: My art exists because it has a will to exist.

1245
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 4: Like hip hop, the album inspired many people from all

1246
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 4: walks life because of its radical.

1247
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: Intense will to live and express love.

1248
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 4: I appreciate everyone who was a part of it in

1249
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 4: any and every capacity. It wouldn't have existed the way

1250
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 4: it did without that involvement, skill, hard work, and talents

1251
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 4: of artists and musicians and technicians.

1252
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: Who were part of it.

1253
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 4: But it still required my vision, my passion, my faith,

1254
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 4: my will, my soul, my heart, and my story. Like

1255
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 4: I said, for the people that want to give all

1256
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 4: the credit for the mis education to everyone but Lauren,

1257
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 4: why ain't.

1258
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: There been no other mis educations? I just don't understand

1259
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: who who put the Volume two out.

1260
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 4: Wouldn't they just go pick some artists and just be like,

1261
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 4: well anyone can do this shit. Cause and you know,

1262
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 4: I'm telling the truth, because if it was a formula,

1263
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 4: they just do like Diddy did in the fucking two thousands,

1264
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 4: where they just kept putting out a new artist and

1265
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 4: a new name with the same different, you know, different

1266
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 4: type of beats, but same shit over and over again,

1267
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: until you was like, it don't even matter who it is,

1268
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: it's Diddy did his music. You can't just make another

1269
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 4: Lauren Hill, Jesus make like I said, I can understand

1270
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 4: some of the anger being that people are so frustrated

1271
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 4: that they never got that second album and I had

1272
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 4: the same anger. So I'm coming from it like being

1273
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 4: fully transparent artist about it. I remember being mad that

1274
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna get like this woman wasn't gonna dedicate

1275
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 4: her career to making me happy with more music that

1276
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 4: sounded like The Miseducation, you know. And i'm talking earlyer,

1277
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 4: I'm talking, you know, unplugged. I was already like, what

1278
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,479
Speaker 4: the fuck is this shit?

1279
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: You know?

1280
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: And then you just keep waiting away, and it's like

1281
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 4: she want them, She's gonna be a mom now, she

1282
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 4: just wants to do that.

1283
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: She's one debt with the RS, She's you.

1284
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 4: Know, like, I'm like, well, maybe she put a new

1285
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 4: song out, and the songs don't you know that raw?

1286
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 4: They don't sound anything like the polished Miseducation sound. So

1287
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, and then I guess she just really

1288
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 4: is just crazy and she don't want to be a

1289
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 4: star anymore.

1290
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: And what about me and my love and my CDs and.

1291
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 4: Tapes and whatever the fuck else we used to listen ownership, Yeah,

1292
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 4: it was that ownership of the artists.

1293
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: But I don't own her, you know.

1294
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people maybe haven't looked

1295
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 4: at it in themselves or why they feel so strongly

1296
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 4: about her.

1297
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: Need to be put in check.

1298
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 4: I thought, I think that was kind of I think

1299
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 4: it's I think I'm being more honest than most of the.

1300
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: People that are talking about this shit.

1301
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 4: Mm hm. So you know, I don't like, I don't like,

1302
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 4: I'm not like like I hate to be serious about

1303
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: something because I normally come out here and.

1304
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: We get to joke about lawn Hill and make all

1305
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: the like you know an't here references and shit.

1306
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 4: But I did want to take the time to be

1307
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 4: serious because people keep getting confused on the wind I'm

1308
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: serious and when I'm not when I'm joking about this shit. Yes,

1309
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 4: But but there's because there's like colonels of truth in

1310
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 4: the stuff that I'm saying.

1311
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's.

1312
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: That far fetched or or coincidence that the same things

1313
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 4: I was saying about when I was making jokes about

1314
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 4: some of the stuff about Robert Glass's.

1315
01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: Interview, that some of it was truthful, you know.

1316
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 4: So I do think in some ways she was a

1317
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 4: Canarian of coal mine for women in hip hop, and

1318
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 4: in some ways she is still the example of what

1319
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 4: it sounds like when a woman tries to take control

1320
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 4: of her career, and like I said, the mistakes that

1321
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 4: come with that as well as the positives and the

1322
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 4: toad that it takes out of you. And maybe she

1323
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 4: wanted to be too much. Maybe she wanted to be

1324
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 4: that mother six times, and maybe she wanted to be

1325
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 4: there for her kids lives and shit in a way

1326
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 4: that you know, we're just not used to seeing, and

1327
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 4: that something has to give, you know. I don't think

1328
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 4: it's a coincidence that her kids got more grown.

1329
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: Up before she came back.

1330
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, because even after the r ir S shit,

1331
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 4: she could have went on to it right after that,

1332
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 4: but she didn't.

1333
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: I think, I don't.

1334
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I just I just don't presume

1335
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 4: the worst about Lauren Hill, you know, and especially considering

1336
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 4: that a lot of the negative energy it comes from

1337
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 4: Lauryn Hill is by you know, some of the same men.

1338
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: That tried to fuck her over with her career, you know.

1339
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:13,959
Speaker 1: You know, So I'll just leave it at that. And yes,

1340
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: I agree, showing up late the concerts is terrible and shit,

1341
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: I totally like this is like, dude, if you fucking

1342
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: right up here, Tom Morwson. But she'd be showing up

1343
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: late the concerts.

1344
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just delete the comment because y'all know that

1345
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 4: I understand that, and that, like all jokes aside not

1346
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 4: even trying to be funny, I get why that would

1347
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 4: piss somebody off.

1348
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: The level of ri y'all aimed at her towards like

1349
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: it's kind of nasty.

1350
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 4: It's kind of like some of the shit I've seen

1351
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 4: people say today. I'm just like, really, nigga, it was

1352
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 4: that you talk more shit? If I heard that John McCain,

1353
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 4: what the fuck is happening right now?

1354
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: He got a bigger impact on He had gonna have

1355
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: a bigger lasting impact on your life that she ever will.

1356
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I realized about John McCain.

1357
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 4: I think I didn't articulate it our last show, but

1358
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 4: I do want to be clear. The politeness of around

1359
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 4: John McCain's death is why Confederate's that Jesus went up

1360
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 4: come on, and why they so hard to get back down.

1361
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 4: Everybody gotta be nice about this man dying. We can't

1362
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 4: even say he was a horrible person with a horrible

1363
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 4: track record that hurt a lot of people.

1364
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 2: We can't even say that passing fu the blalls right,

1365
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: affecting minority and brown people.

1366
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: But that's too mean.

1367
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: Apparently his law passes, not too mean, but this is

1368
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 4: too mean. Me saying that dude really hurt a lot

1369
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 4: of people was a complete piece of shit to folks

1370
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 4: like that's too mean. People that have on their Facebook

1371
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 4: page if you voted for Trump or you support Trump,

1372
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 4: get the fuck off my Facebook page, are telling me

1373
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 4: that John McCain is not that bad. He supported Trump

1374
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 4: legitimately in a way that's much more tangible than anybody

1375
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 4: on your social media. No one in your life has

1376
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 4: supported Trump more tangibly than John McCain, voting with that

1377
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 4: dude like ninety percent of the time. And we don't

1378
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 4: really like that one that one time he said, no

1379
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 4: one be like see and that's a real man. I

1380
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 4: can't get out of my face, like, use some of

1381
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 4: your Lauryn Hill energy for John McCain.

1382
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: Come on anyway, all right, I don't even know what

1383
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: to do after this. It's gonna be one of those

1384
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: episodes guys just talking now to topics like I'm looking

1385
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: at these topics. I don't know. We feel like my

1386
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: chackles are out of line from.

1387
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 4: Defending Lauren Hill. Let's yeah, let's do some games. Let's

1388
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 4: do some games. Let me look at with black people ship.

1389
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: I want to talk about everybody got a hundred?

1390
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 5: Did we talk about Serena.

1391
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: In the catsuit?

1392
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm saving it for balls deep, but

1393
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 4: you know.

1394
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 5: I mean I didn't know if you wanted to talk

1395
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 5: about it.

1396
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean.

1397
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 4: The French open says she can't wear a catsuit no more,

1398
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 4: which is interesting because the catsu kind of made a

1399
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 4: leap in my in our lifetime from it made a

1400
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 4: leap from just like this moment of like, at least

1401
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 4: for me anyway pure like sexy, like what like oh

1402
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 4: my god, Like everybody remembers where they were at when

1403
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 4: she what that motherfucking cat suit?

1404
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: You know, at least me as a black man.

1405
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 4: I know, I remember, you know, like plus as a

1406
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 4: black man that was always.

1407
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: In this Serena hive and was like, now she find

1408
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: in a motherfucker too, and shit, whoop your ass in tennis?

1409
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 4: And then to have that moment where motherfuckers to tell

1410
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 4: me she wasn't fine.

1411
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: I could be like, but you see it in that

1412
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: catsuit though? Now what like oh well, you know, I mean,

1413
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know a lot of people came on

1414
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: board after the catsuit.

1415
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: I remember that moment. But in a in a way,

1416
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 4: the catsu kind of took on a different connotation in

1417
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 4: the last few years, at least for me. Like the

1418
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 4: cat suit kind of a came like garn It in

1419
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 4: Steven Universe, Yes, garn it right, Like it kind of

1420
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 4: like she kind of transcended. I mean maybe she always

1421
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 4: already had, but I just couldn't see it, but it

1422
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 4: transcended like this.

1423
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, I can't believe somebody would wear something.

1424
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 4: So sexy to this is like her superhero kick your

1425
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 4: Ass uniform. So like you see that motherfucking catsuit, and

1426
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 4: it was, oh, some white women is about to get

1427
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 4: tennis balls through their chest clavigals today or whatever they shoulders,

1428
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 4: and like.

1429
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 5: You about to get this motherfucking work.

1430
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 4: You know, especially like after she became like a mom,

1431
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 4: you know, and her coming out there in that uniform,

1432
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 4: like I don't know, man, it's like watching Captain America

1433
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 4: suit up or something, and me it meant something to me,

1434
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,439
Speaker 4: you know, and to know she was the only one

1435
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 4: out there like that, and that shit was black, you know.

1436
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: And then when she added a little belt part to

1437
01:06:58,720 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: it the.

1438
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 4: Little I mean it was, it was like that Serena

1439
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 4: willis the closest we're gonna really get to, Like what

1440
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 4: if there was a Captain Marvel or a you know what,

1441
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 4: Like what would it take to be the badass that

1442
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 4: Marvel movies makes women into, you know what I mean?

1443
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 4: Like if they would have just put Serena in the

1444
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 4: door Miller Jay in the background, we would have been like, yes,

1445
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: that makes complete fucking sense.

1446
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 5: Yes she does.

1447
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: Like she would be out here.

1448
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 4: Handing the niggas they asked if they stepped into Charlotte,

1449
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 4: of course she would, you know. So for the the

1450
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 4: French open to say that her uniform was disrespectful and

1451
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 4: they needed her to change it, you know, it does

1452
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 4: feel like a slap in the face because iconic, and

1453
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 4: I know people watch it because of iconic. I bet

1454
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 4: you they felt in so that the whole time, you know,

1455
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 4: like she how dare she? Her and her sister have

1456
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 4: always been outside to this very white, very elitist sport

1457
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 4: of tennis, you know, and they and they always let

1458
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 4: people know they're still black.

1459
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, always, always.

1460
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: And I think the thing that frustrates mean about Venus

1461
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: and Serena, like black.

1462
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 5: They like both of them girls. It's well, we'll women,

1463
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 5: but but you know, since they've been girls.

1464
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

1465
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 5: For me is the fact that I.

1466
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 2: Am I love Serena Williams and Venus like I love

1467
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods. I only watch when they playing. They ain't playing,

1468
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 2: I ain't watching.

1469
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 5: And it's just that simple to me.

1470
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. But you know what though, and it's not.

1471
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 4: God I put them in the same category because tigers

1472
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 4: are fucking con Yes he is, Like Selena has never

1473
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 4: said anything. I just want to say, beyond even what

1474
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 4: you're saying, Cam, I hate to cut you off, beyond

1475
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 4: even what you're saying.

1476
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: Serena is even higher on the level.

1477
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 5: Yes she is.

1478
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: But I said that for the fact that I know

1479
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: that I am not the only one that tunes into

1480
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: tennis when she's there. Your ratings are higher because she's there,

1481
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 2: Like Tiger Woods, say, what the fuck you want to say?

1482
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods is kind of winning again, so guess what

1483
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: your motherfucking ratings went up so And it's what's so

1484
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 2: funny is that kind of like Tiger Woods, Venus has

1485
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: set standards for women.

1486
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 5: Women get paid more.

1487
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: She had to show her ass when she came back

1488
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 2: and was like, look, bitch, when people have kids and maternity,

1489
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: you can't strip They rakings like a lot of these

1490
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: white women who are probably spitting her goddamn face. She

1491
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: has passed laws to benefit them. She got everybody paid more,

1492
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: She gets more revenue share, Like she got to win

1493
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: more revenue share. The women's tournament gets sold out before

1494
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: the men's tournament at the biggest finals.

1495
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 5: You know, she's doing all this shit for a game

1496
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:00,879
Speaker 5: that actually they don't want her there when they constantly

1497
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 5: told her that you test her more than anybody else.

1498
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: You got this other bitch over here that was snorting

1499
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: shit up her nose and and and doing everything she

1500
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: could to be her got suspended, you know, but you don't.

1501
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 5: You don't give her the visper and you didn't test

1502
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 5: her as much.

1503
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: You motherfucking showing up on my goddamn house talking about Pete.

1504
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 5: Bitch.

1505
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: Like for me personally, you have got to be a

1506
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: special person, like Venus and Serena are special. Like it's

1507
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 2: almost like they were designed to deal with the racism.

1508
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 5: They were designed to deal with the with with with

1509
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 5: the being called niggas.

1510
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 2: When you go to tournament, like you got to be

1511
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: a special person, because I would have told them to

1512
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 2: kiss my ass a long fucking time ago, because the

1513
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: whole time she's been there, breaking their records, doing all

1514
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 2: this miraculous shit.

1515
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 5: They have done nothing but disrespecting her the entire time.

1516
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 4: Right, and so like, like I said, I would put

1517
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 4: her even ahead of Tiger, because you like, Tiger does

1518
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 4: a lot to be like but not too black. Y'all

1519
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 4: calm down, like just black enough where it's kind of

1520
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 4: cool but not really. Okay, guys, calmed down. Serena does.

1521
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Tiger just said people need to respect Trump

1522
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: like two days ago. Serena would never ever, would never,

1523
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, And Venus is more laid back.

1524
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 4: But Serena, I mean, in addition to you know, like

1525
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 4: Venus definitely had some health issues and shit like that.

1526
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 4: But Serena, we all knew she was younger and would

1527
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 4: surpass Venus at some point, and she became so dominant

1528
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 4: and so good, and she's still so black and so

1529
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 4: committed to her people, and everything she does is like

1530
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 4: fucking like iconic. It's it's you know, less, I'm stepping

1531
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 4: in the motherhood like like with my fucking foot on

1532
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 4: motherhood's throat, like like just ah, motherhood.

1533
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm about to tackle this shit, you know.

1534
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 4: But being transparent and honest and vulnerable, and they but

1535
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 4: to talk about like complications with her pregnancy, postpartum depression.

1536
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 4: You know, she's changing what it means to be the

1537
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 4: most dominant athlete in an era where we've normally seen

1538
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 4: the dominant athlete as the impervious.

1539
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: Right, it's nothing gets to you. That's why you're great

1540
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: because unlike other people, we're human with like shit fucks

1541
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: with us. She's like, no, no, no, shit fucks with

1542
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: me too, baby, but I'll go out and kick this ass.

1543
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: In addition to that, right and on top of the

1544
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 2: thing for me with venus and to me, just black

1545
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: athletes across the board, particularly if you own your blackness.

1546
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: A lot of times, particularly in sports that are dead

1547
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: are predominantly white or either the black people, but.

1548
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 5: A lot of white people consume it. They want you

1549
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 5: to be humble, and that's something that she's not. They

1550
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 5: want you to shrink your blackness, put your blackness down.

1551
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,560
Speaker 2: And she does shit like she's the only person that

1552
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 2: whenever they do, like the French Open, she does interviews

1553
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: in French.

1554
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 7: You know, nobody none of these other people's fucking learning

1555
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 7: French so that they could do it right. You know

1556
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Like, it's just amazing the level of

1557
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 7: disrespect that they give somebody who actually, if it was

1558
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 7: not for her.

1559
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 5: Would the women's particularly women's tennis, be where it is now.

1560
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 5: You know, I'm just I'm not trying to funny.

1561
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: It's not just tennis, the women's salaries if some of

1562
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: these open right, like niggas wouldn't even be making money

1563
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: if not for her. It's crazy, It's fucking it's bananas.

1564
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: And then for them to say it was disrespectful, like

1565
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: we need to respect the French. Oh, it's just stupid.

1566
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 4: And then she, of course still had the classiest response,

1567
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 4: like it's no big deal they've told me because she's

1568
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 4: always gracious. I don't think there's even space for black

1569
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 4: people not to be gracious when this shit happens to us.

1570
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: But still, even despite all that, she's always gracious. She

1571
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: never gets angry.

1572
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 4: There was a tournament where they called her nigger, and

1573
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 4: she stopped going to that tournament for a while, and

1574
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 4: she came back and played there again. And I don't

1575
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 4: have it in me to do it what she did no,

1576
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 4: like she like she, and she whipped the ass of

1577
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 4: course in one but still the point being like.

1578
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 1: There's something inside of her that's just so fucking ethereal,

1579
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: and so you have to.

1580
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:30,839
Speaker 5: Be made of something special.

1581
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 4: It's like it's it's almost regal to consider, like this

1582
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 4: kid from Compton is in this space dominating these elitist

1583
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 4: ass white people who truly do believe they are better

1584
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 4: in every way, and then there's this one place where

1585
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 4: they can't pretend they're better, because tennis as a sport

1586
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 4: is essentially at that level when you're both playing against

1587
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 4: each other with racket to racket, a meritocracy, and at

1588
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 4: that point, she has the most merit almost every time,

1589
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 4: and then it crushes the illusion of the supremacy that

1590
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 4: they're taught and have bought into and continue to permeate.

1591
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 4: And so you know, they take shots at her in

1592
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 4: the ways, in the most the ways that they feel

1593
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 4: like they can.

1594
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: Now keep in mind, this cat suit.

1595
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 4: Is not simply for us to be like God damn

1596
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 4: all that ass. It also serves a purpose of helping

1597
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 4: with her blood clots and stuff, which we know she

1598
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 4: had complications during pregnancy about blood clots, like almost.

1599
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: Into her life type shit.

1600
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 4: So we know that she has struggled with this, and

1601
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, even with it having a actual purpose,

1602
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 4: we would not want you to wear this. And she

1603
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 4: could have called the bluff and been like, well, I'm

1604
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 4: wearing them now what, Like okay, okay, cool, cool, I'm

1605
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 4: gonna just show up to the tournament and I'm gonna

1606
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 4: walk out there in my catsuit and I damn motherfucker

1607
01:15:58,600 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 4: pulled me off the court, now what.

1608
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: Or she could have said, I boycotted a tournament. I'm

1609
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: not going back.

1610
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I didn't realize yet that makes sense. Somebody

1611
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 5: said Nike did it. Yeah, that's why Nike started doing

1612
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 5: a bunch of.

1613
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 2: Commercials and shit promoting her in that catsuit because they

1614
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: were the one that made it. And I don't know

1615
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: if it's true or not, but they were saying that

1616
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they was like, well, we might

1617
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 2: consider rescinding because motherfucker's.

1618
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: Like the bitch, what right? But like, and honestly, if

1619
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be for her graciousness, I mean, if she's

1620
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: the biggest name, she made the most money of any

1621
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: women's athlete last year, if she wanted to be like, actually,

1622
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: you know what, Nike pulled all the shit out of this,

1623
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: and I'm pulling out who knows what kind of fucking

1624
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: stinky could have been.

1625
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 4: She was just like, it's cool. I'm gonna just kick

1626
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 4: their ass and address like, who gives a fuck? Like

1627
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 4: I wear pants and kick their ass. I don't give

1628
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 4: a fuck somebody getting their ass kicked. See y'all at

1629
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 4: the French Open, when you're having the trophy and I'm

1630
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 4: speaking in French, I might see walk on y'all niggas.

1631
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: One more time.

1632
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 5: She the type person.

1633
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: She's like, a Nike, you make me some Nike pants, right,

1634
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: Don't you think Nike won't do it.

1635
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 5: She'll come out there with some brand new Knike and

1636
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 5: swoop pants.

1637
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: On.

1638
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 5: On on, y'all bitches, give me a Nike throng and

1639
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 5: come out and do this, y'all.

1640
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 4: See my cheeks flapping while I whooped y'all ass again,

1641
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 4: Like it's just it's just ridiculous. But that night you

1642
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 4: did put out an ad. I think yesterday I'll play

1643
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 4: play it here.

1644
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: This is you at the US Open. This is you.

1645
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 6: Good service motion, very good, keep the perfect service motion

1646
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 6: you have right, Yeah, quit to the back hand, lean

1647
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 6: into it.

1648
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: It's fallow to take the nut.

1649
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 6: Nice shot, make sure you're controlling that ball every shot.

1650
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: He very good. That's just like you want to, just

1651
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:06,719
Speaker 1: like you at the US Open.

1652
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: That is.

1653
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: Very good.

1654
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 6: There in a waste.

1655
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: It's only crazy to you do it.

1656
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 5: Just do it and go make me cry.

1657
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yah, it's beautiful right.

1658
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 5: And the thing is.

1659
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: People underestimate parents that believe in their children. It took

1660
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: a daddy having a dream and a vision that his

1661
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 2: daughters was gonna be great and telling them they were

1662
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: gonna be great before they even could understand or even

1663
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 2: begin to comprehend whether the lives were going that Dad,

1664
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 2: it was like, no, no, no, you're gonna be great

1665
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: at this, he said.

1666
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 5: You can't see it now we're out here in Compton,

1667
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 5: but you are gonna be at the US Open.

1668
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: Could you imagine the the the vision, and the hope

1669
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 2: and the faith that you have to have going to

1670
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 2: tournament after tournament, traveling with your children knowing that they

1671
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: were gonna have to face this adversity, you know, going

1672
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: to these places and some other places weren't safe, and

1673
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: be like, what the fuck y'all not gonna do? Is

1674
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 2: come over here and disrupt tennis time, you know, and

1675
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: and and going to these places, and and and and

1676
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 2: even before they can understand him and his mother and

1677
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 2: the mother dealing with discrimination and racism and shit like that,

1678
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 2: way before being a Serena product could even understand it.

1679
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 5: And it's like it's really important to to to push

1680
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 5: your children's.

1681
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: Dreams and passions, because yeah, that's the did that video

1682
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: years ago. And I'm pretty sure when when Dave was

1683
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: there in a moment, you know, I'm pretty sure she

1684
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: started visioning it too, you know. And it's one of

1685
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 2: those things where you sit back and you and you

1686
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 2: just think of how beautiful that he is. And you

1687
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: know what his on sociows shows is that she got

1688
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 2: good sponsors. Because probably also one of another reason why

1689
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 2: they might be considering and recent rescinding it if they do,

1690
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 2: is because Nike started pumping out these commercials and her

1691
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: that goddamn catsuit, you know, went surprised me.

1692
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 5: The catsuit went up in sales.

1693
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 2: Right, you know what I'm saying, like, you know, you

1694
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 2: you fuck around and you have women in cat suits

1695
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: at your US opening protesting, you know, be like, well, bitch,

1696
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 2: because see.

1697
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 5: I want one too. Now, you know, I'm like, hey,

1698
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 5: I want a cat suit too.

1699
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. What's what's interesting to me is, you know, I

1700
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: remember when.

1701
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 4: When I first saw beating Cincerena and shit, and I

1702
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 4: was like, I remember people talking about them like they

1703
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 4: were boys, right, they were ugly, they were poor, all

1704
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 4: this shit, and we watched like tennis become this vehicle

1705
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,440
Speaker 4: for them to, you know, succeed and exceed everybody's expectations.

1706
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: Now, I think of their father a little bit different

1707
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: than most people where they like, oh he was believed

1708
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 1: in his girls and stuff.

1709
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel you, but I think what he

1710
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 4: did was he looked at tennis and said, oh, them

1711
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 4: little white girls ain't got nothing.

1712
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: We about to come up. Like I think he was saying, Oh,

1713
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: they just give away money, you know, they give away

1714
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: money for this shit. Oh free money.

1715
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 4: Oh y'all go get too tennis, Like, let's go out

1716
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 4: here and take these white people money. Like, you know,

1717
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 4: just sitting up in the crowd listening to these motherfuckers

1718
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 4: say racisthit about his daughters, being like, well, we're going

1719
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 4: home with this tournament trophy again, and it did you know, obviously,

1720
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 4: you know, I'm joke a little bit, but I feel

1721
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I think he definitely was like, man,

1722
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 4: we're about to take We're about to run. These white

1723
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 4: white people don't understand how segregation and racism and bigotry

1724
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,480
Speaker 4: really weakens everybody.

1725
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 5: Correct.

1726
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 2: You know.

1727
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 4: It's the reason that you know, when baseball was segregated,

1728
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 4: it wasn't that good. You know, It's the reason how

1729
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 4: everybody's always gonna look at these records people said in

1730
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 4: like the ABA and shit they get thrown out of

1731
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 4: me that we're like, wait, so what niggas couldn't play'alls

1732
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 4: counting the records?

1733
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: No, we don't care about that, you know, like.

1734
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 5: Like y'all really wouldn't y'all really wouldn't getting the best

1735
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 5: of the best. Because that's the thing.

1736
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 2: It's amazing how you know, people say the best of

1737
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: the best, but do you really got the best of

1738
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: the best in a lot of these sports?

1739
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 4: And then the second that they get black people on

1740
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 4: some team, they dominate the fuck out everybody, and then

1741
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 4: then it becomes an arms racer. Let's get some niggas

1742
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 4: in here, Like every sport is like go through the

1743
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 4: same fucking shit. That's how stupid racism is. You could

1744
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 4: have started with, hey, they should bring black people in

1745
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 4: and allow folks to slam dunk.

1746
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: Instead, they're like, no.

1747
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 4: We like boring, like the fundamentals, peach basket, underhand buckets only. Please,

1748
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 4: Oh slow down, heart, pass that break right there was

1749
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 4: getting a little too fast.

1750
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: We like medium breaks.

1751
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 4: Just pass like it's just it's just wild shit, man.

1752
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 4: As soon as black people get interested, they end up dominating.

1753
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: The ship and none of that.

1754
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 4: Fans and footwork and a lot of these sports like

1755
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 4: soccer and tennis and hockey and baseball use money to

1756
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 4: separate to take place of racist policies.

1757
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: Correct.

1758
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 4: So it's like, oh, it's not easily accessible to people

1759
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 4: who can't afford it, But surprise, bitch, not every black

1760
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 4: person poor.

1761
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: And often there's a will.

1762
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 4: When there's a will, there's a way because profit and

1763
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 4: center says, let's go recruit some black kids that can

1764
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 4: be good at this thing.

1765
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: I gotta go to the next session.

1766
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 5: No problem.

1767
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 2: And also the thing is they gonna fuck around. Particularly

1768
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: I think with soccer and some of these other sports.

1769
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: I think that Nigga's going to get in them and

1770
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 2: they're gonna start dominating. Because for a lot of people,

1771
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 2: particularly when it comes to football, a lot of people

1772
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: are like pulling their children out of football. But I

1773
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 2: know what you ain't gonna do is go get your

1774
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 2: head bashed in and so like that's real. Like a

1775
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 2: lot of parents are like no, no, no. So parents,

1776
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 2: like you said, everybody ain't poor, So parents are gonna

1777
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: be looking for other avenues.

1778
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 5: So you know you're gonna have.

1779
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 2: The little kid that you know run around like crazy

1780
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 2: and had great hand eye coordination all of a sudden

1781
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: running up and down the field at the World Open.

1782
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to bring yourself over by the way.

1783
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: Oh I'm bad, but yeah, I think that.

1784
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 4: Is one of them senders to like they get territorial

1785
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 4: and they don't want us over there. Correct, but it

1786
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 4: just hurts everybody, and the kids that do get to

1787
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 4: play end up being less good because they're playing aainst

1788
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 4: worst competition. But a lot of times, when sports is

1789
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 4: considered as a resources and a means to get money,

1790
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 4: you end up with these people that isolate black people

1791
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 4: out of it. You know, the NFL and college football

1792
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 4: still has this problem at quarterback. Correct, quarterbacks will come

1793
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 4: a position where they put a lot of money into

1794
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 4: what makes somebody good, getting the best training, going to

1795
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 4: the best camps, the best equipment, and what end up

1796
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 4: happening is black kids can't afford to.

1797
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: Be a quarterback. You know this like this shit is,

1798
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 1: it's a rig system.

1799
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,839
Speaker 4: But every once in a while, black person being excellent

1800
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 4: surpasses even the shit they've rigged and starts whooping ass.

1801
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 4: And then now we gotta stop wearing cat suits, and

1802
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 4: now you gotta wear your pants. You gotta wear a

1803
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 4: suit on the sideline in the NBA, now you gotta.

1804
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 4: You know, it's always just some shit, no celebrating in baseball.

1805
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 4: It's just always some weird ass, you know, cultural shit.

1806
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 4: We don't like these touchdown dances. The touchdown dances go away,

1807
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 4: nobody wants to watch the game. Oh you guys can

1808
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 4: dance and an zone again. Uh, we were tripping.

1809
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: You know. It's just as weird, like we'll take the

1810
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: black We don't want the culture clown.

1811
01:25:59,600 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1812
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: And I know they got in soda when she Sea walk.

1813
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 1: I know they get.

1814
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 4: I know they hate that she's pro Black lives matter

1815
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 4: and talks about issues of race. I know they hate

1816
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,759
Speaker 4: that she brings up issues of gender and still separates

1817
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 4: out that black women get it worse than the white women.

1818
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 4: I know, they hate that shit, you know, and then

1819
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 4: what they hate the most is she says and then

1820
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 4: she goes and kicks they ass, you know.

1821
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean a hundred I didn't have it

1822
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: on the topic. I just used her as the show

1823
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: art because I just thought that that picture I saw her,

1824
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: I just was like, this is fucking This is like

1825
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: a queen in this picture, like she she's in the castle.

1826
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: She just won.

1827
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 4: And like I said, it's not even on some like

1828
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 4: look at all that ass, which hey, I'm Assina hed Man.

1829
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 4: Obviously I'm still trash or whatever. She could sit on

1830
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 4: my face after a match, I don't give a fuck.

1831
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: But.

1832
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 4: It's not just that, Like it was something about just

1833
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,919
Speaker 4: the way that she was smiling and waving in that uniform,

1834
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 4: and you know, she just dominated these niggas, And I

1835
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 4: was like, Yo, she's the whole other level, and she's

1836
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 4: so graceful with.

1837
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: It, and she just handles all the bullshit with such ease.

1838
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 4: I don't know when she's gonna release her tell all

1839
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 4: book one day, but I know it's gonna be full

1840
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 4: of like they was calling me.

1841
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 5: Nigger, They was this you know, be the first one

1842
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 5: to get a copy.

1843
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 4: I want to know what she thought about Maria Sharapova

1844
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 4: and Sara Pova's portrayal of her. Is this intimidating black

1845
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 4: body that was just so I was so scared of her,

1846
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 4: and shit, you know, like she just has mastered the

1847
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 4: she has mastered the appearance of And I guess this

1848
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 4: goes to her father too, you know, Richard Williams, Like

1849
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 4: she has legitimately just mastered this.

1850
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: This like none of it gets to me, Like I

1851
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: don't know if it.

1852
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 4: I think it does get to her because she's human

1853
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 4: and she talks about the things that get to her,

1854
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 4: but this is one where she doesn't get them the

1855
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 4: satisfaction and let them know it gets to her, like

1856
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 4: she just like, look, these motherfucker's racist.

1857
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 1: I hear it. But I'm I'm I do. I'm gonna

1858
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: just continue you to kick ass and worry about that.

1859
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 4: And I think one I think one day she is

1860
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 4: gonna open up and be like, so, yeah, let me

1861
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 4: tell you all about these motherfuckers.

1862
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: And I can't wait. I can't wait. All right, let's uh,

1863
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: let's see what else is going on? What else should

1864
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: we do? I would do trash real quick. Let me

1865
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: do that.

1866
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna play the sound effect, just gonna get

1867
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 4: right into it. Luis c K has already come out

1868
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 4: at a show on Sunday night.

1869
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: Uh. He performed the unexpected set at the Comedy Cellar

1870
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 1: and ended up getting a very hearty uh like crowd

1871
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: standing ovation before he even began.

1872
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 5: I can see that.

1873
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: And it's been less than ten months since he, you know,

1874
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 1: kind of took himself out of the public discourse about

1875
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: not performing the shit. I think.

1876
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if his movie didn't come out or

1877
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 4: it just came out the small fan fair or whatever.

1878
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 4: He said, I'll step back and take a long time

1879
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 4: to listen, and that it was ten months ago. So

1880
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 4: he did a fifteen minute set that touched on what

1881
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:25,520
Speaker 4: comedy seller owner Know Diamond called typical Luis K stuff, racism, waitresses, tips, parades.

1882
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 4: He did, not, according to the report, address to behavior

1883
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 4: that prompted his brief disappearance, but the audience that sold

1884
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 4: out crowd of about one hundred and fifteen greeted him

1885
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 4: warmly with an ovation even before he began.

1886
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, you know, I think.

1887
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 4: You know, I think he's gonna have a bunch of

1888
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 4: people that defend him, and shit, that's just kind of

1889
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 4: what it is. Yes, male colleagues in the comedy world

1890
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 4: gave him some encouraging respond Comedian Mo Amer, who was

1891
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 4: on the show's billing, told The Times the surprise was

1892
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 4: like a wild moment for the crowd, and then that

1893
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 4: of his material.

1894
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: Was like classic lewis really really good. Classic louis really

1895
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: really good. Micha Oean Black tweeted his support for CK,

1896
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: which I thought was stupid. What an on goal.

1897
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 4: Just don't say shit, bro, He tweeted support of CK,

1898
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 4: along with a link to the Time story.

1899
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: Will take heat for this, but people have to be

1900
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: allowed to serve their time and move on with their lives.

1901
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 5: What time. He ain't go to jail, nigga right.

1902
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's been long enough, or his

1903
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 4: career will recover, or if people will have him back,

1904
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 4: but I'm happy to see him try.

1905
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: Oh he'll be fine.

1906
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 5: Nobody gets canceled.

1907
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: You give it a few more months.

1908
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 5: If he torn across the country again, which sold out tickets.

1909
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand what.

1910
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 4: Serve his time means, and I'm trying to understand what

1911
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 4: people think redemption really looks like.

1912
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:05,560
Speaker 2: Oh, service timeing, he got the spotlight service timing. He

1913
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: quote unquote didn't make no money if I've still made

1914
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 2: money from because he does a lot of shit, don't

1915
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 2: don't think his shit wouldn't sell him. Yeah, serving his

1916
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 2: time means that you wouldn't ute unquote in the line light. Yeah,

1917
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 2: he didn't go to jail, no charges were ever pressed.

1918
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 2: What time are we serving?

1919
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's ten months, like some really long time.

1920
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 4: And I just don't understand, like considering in that ten months,

1921
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 4: like he hasn't addressed it any further.

1922
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: He hasn't done publicly anything that would look like some

1923
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: level of work to it. Maybe that stuff is something

1924
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 1: that happen mind the scenes.

1925
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 4: But it's almost like you would have to show your

1926
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 4: work to then just return to the public spotlights ten

1927
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,679
Speaker 4: months later, like it's all good now. I think maybe

1928
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 4: he never intended to do any work quote unquote, or

1929
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 4: rake any amends.

1930
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: I think you know, he was like I've been a

1931
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: bad boy.

1932
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 5: Men, shame on me.

1933
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 1: Men get more sympathy and public for this kind of stuff.

1934
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 4: We make their behavior about them being the victim of

1935
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 4: their own behavior, not what they did to people. And yeah, people,

1936
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 4: I think people have been feeling behind the scenes poor

1937
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 4: Luis c K. All he did was pull his dick

1938
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 4: out and masturbate in front of some women that happened

1939
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 4: to be fellow comedians.

1940
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 1: And I mean it's not like he raped anybody. It's

1941
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: not like he touched anyone.

1942
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 4: He just was inappropriate boys being boys, And I think

1943
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 4: his behavior, and along with likease's am sorry, in the

1944
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 4: spectrum of things that men have done in the me

1945
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 4: too eerror quote unquote, has been on the lower spectrum,

1946
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: and so people go, Okay.

1947
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: The punishment for them is like we all just go, oh,

1948
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 1: that was weird, and then we move on, essentially, And

1949
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right punishment is.

1950
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 4: I think it's just easy, Like I recognize the other

1951
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 4: side of this, which is of course for the vast

1952
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 4: majority of people's to Papa John's can underm all over again.

1953
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 4: Most motherfuckers that are anti Luis c K at this

1954
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 4: point are really anti he should never come They really

1955
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 4: he should never come back, right. I don't think they

1956
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 4: would ever admit it, but it's the truth. He could

1957
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 4: take all the steps in the world and they would

1958
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, I don't give a fuck. That creepy

1959
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 4: ass nigga needs to never work again. And I'm not

1960
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 4: even regretting them. I think I think maybe the dishonesty

1961
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 4: is rooted in some denial because they I don't think

1962
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 4: they would ever admit to themselves like, wait, actually, I

1963
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 4: don't think there's anything this dude can do, you know,

1964
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 4: And because then because then they look like the bad guy,

1965
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 4: because then you go, well, he's.

1966
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 1: Not a fucking rapist or ain't. I mean, this nigga

1967
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: can never work again, Like that's it. And I think

1968
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: they don't want to be mean and be like, yeah,

1969
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: never not in this lane. Nothing. I want to see

1970
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 1: this nigga like.

1971
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 8: Never, never, never, never, never again, because because if the

1972
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 8: thing is, it's like he's in the position of authority

1973
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 8: and all he's gonna do is get right back in

1974
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 8: that position of authority, and if there's nothing changed, the

1975
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 8: behavior will not change.

1976
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 5: So you're gonna put him up with fucking women again abused.

1977
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 4: I guess what I'm saying is, even if he would

1978
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 4: do the right things quote unquote, whatever they are, take

1979
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 4: some classes speak about it, donate money, uplift women's voices

1980
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 4: that are serving these causes and shit, whatever you pick

1981
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 4: the things you think he should do at the end

1982
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 4: of that day, at the end of all that process,

1983
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 4: there's a lot of us who will still be like

1984
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 4: fuck him, and I don't want him to ever work again.

1985
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 1: And I think there's a truth to that. The problem

1986
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: is we have never been there, like like we can't

1987
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: even like before I can have sympathy for the devil.

1988
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: The devil gotta go through some things. The devil ain't

1989
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 1: never done nothing. Like all these niggas take a week

1990
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: off and come back and everybody's like, so break. We

1991
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: applaud them like I don't know, soldiers were turning from

1992
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 1: war some shit.

1993
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 4: I don't know, like you picked the analogy, but we

1994
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 4: we applaud them like like an activist getting let out

1995
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 4: of prison and when they were put in their unfair

1996
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,799
Speaker 4: like right, God, Michael Ian Black said, served his time,

1997
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 4: served his fucking time.

1998
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 1: Dog, Like, what are you talking about?

1999
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 4: You know, it's just like the feeling of the Me

2000
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 4: Too movement quote unquote is gonna be men.

2001
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be women. It's not gonna be people

2002
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: that have been abused. It's gonna be men.

2003
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 4: Who ultimately are the arbiters of the culture and in

2004
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 4: powerful position that did not have the stomach to stick

2005
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 4: to the ideals that they claim to uphold when supporting

2006
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 4: these women.

2007
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: That's all.

2008
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 4: That's what the failure is gonna be. Because these men

2009
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 4: could not wait, these fellow comedians who have names in

2010
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 4: the industry.

2011
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 1: They're not nobody's right, you know, they could not wait

2012
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 1: to exonerate him. Well, he's just doing lowie stuff. He's back.

2013
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm just glad to see him back on his feet.

2014
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 5: I was worried about him them connections.

2015
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well you're worried about the women that he

2016
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 4: assaulted because some of y'all or that he I guess

2017
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 4: it still is technically sauf, but you know what I mean,

2018
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 4: the women that he harassed, some of them, like, I

2019
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 4: don't see y'all in their industry, y'all know some of

2020
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 4: their names, and y'all don't talk about them.

2021
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, man. I just think, like

2022
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 1: I said, I.

2023
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 4: Hate to be pessimistic, but I've been saying for a minute,

2024
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 4: shit from inception, the Me Too movement is kind of doomed,

2025
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 4: and people need to get as many people as they

2026
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:48,759
Speaker 4: can get while getting is good.

2027
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Because essentially.

2028
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 4: Men do not have the stomach or the perseverance to

2029
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 4: watch other men be punished because all of them are

2030
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 4: just thinking, therefore, the grace of God go iye, because

2031
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 4: a lot of these powerful, normally rich white men have

2032
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 4: done some shit. And now I'm not saying it's only

2033
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 4: white man because obviously power and patriarchy is not exclusive

2034
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 4: to just whiteness, but and a lot of times the

2035
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 4: trappings of it are specifically.

2036
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 1: Being able to do women like this, right, So anyway,

2037
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a I don't know.

2038
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 4: I was not surprised to see that he came back.

2039
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised to see people defending him. And I'm

2040
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 4: sick of people trying to put the status quo as

2041
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 4: the brave position to hold, because it ain't.

2042
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: People do this all the time.

2043
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:43,719
Speaker 4: Well, I just think, you know, the people are giving

2044
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,719
Speaker 4: black people movie awards for Black Panther because it's black.

2045
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Oh, you mean the same thing racist white people think. Okay,

2046
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 1: So brave of you to say racist shit?

2047
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 2: What a what?

2048
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: Ah? Who would think you would come out and say that.

2049
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: Let me guess you also hate women? Oh wow? Wow,

2050
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 1: so you think it's brave for you to say that

2051
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 1: some of these women are lying about rape. Wow, so brave, so.

2052
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 4: Wow, Not that we have centuries, in decades of fucking

2053
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 4: precedent to back up that you're bigoted, stupid, regressive minded

2054
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 4: ways of thinking are the actual norm. I think men

2055
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 4: should be allowed to come back. They have been and

2056
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 4: will continue to be in knowing.

2057
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 5: I don't know why people think men people don't bounce back.

2058
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 4: You're so brave to say what happens already and to

2059
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,839
Speaker 4: say that you support the status quo and not changing

2060
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 4: the way that we qualify these things.

2061
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wow, thank you.

2062
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 7: Well.

2063
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 1: I just think if you rape somebody, your life shouldn't

2064
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 1: be wrong forever. Apparently it hasn't been.

2065
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 4: All these niggs getting back out of jail, so I'm

2066
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 4: not even going right, what are we talking about?

2067
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: It's just I hate when people do that shit.

2068
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 4: Man, They always do the like Michael ian Black frame

2069
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 4: that shit like I listen, I just think he did

2070
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,879
Speaker 4: his time and it's good to he returned.

2071
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: Like so you think everything that rapists think too, or

2072
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 1: just what is going on?

2073
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 5: All right?

2074
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 3: Uh?

2075
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: And by the way, I could do a thousand of

2076
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: us like I saw I saw a woman saying that

2077
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: shit about feminism and other that. I was like, okay,

2078
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: all right, like.

2079
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 4: You know, feminism has done this and it's not religious

2080
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 4: enough and blah blah blah, like the same religion that

2081
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 4: raped a thousand children.

2082
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: And I mean maybe they got something. Have you thought

2083
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 1: about that? Feminism has never raped a thousand children? I

2084
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,600
Speaker 1: don't know. Not in Philadelphia, one state. That's it.

2085
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:41,680
Speaker 4: Three hundred priests, pope and Ireland says Francis faces called

2086
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 4: a resign over abuse cover up Clane as the painter

2087
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 4: brings a curtain down on his historic Today visit.

2088
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 1: The Ireland Archbishop Carlo Mario Vigano.

2089
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 4: Has called on him to quit over his response to

2090
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 4: the global scandal still enveloping the church. I don't see

2091
01:39:56,640 --> 01:40:00,599
Speaker 4: why Francis used a speech at Mass and Phoenix Park

2092
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 4: on Sunday to ask forgiveness for abuses committed by members

2093
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 4: with roles responsible in the church, which allegedly includes American

2094
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 4: Cardinal Theodore Mcarrott. Asking forgiveness new Pope seems like it's

2095
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 4: the old formula in the new Pope, because ain't that

2096
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,639
Speaker 4: the old formula last ask forgiveness for God?

2097
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Fuck the police and the victims and anything else. The

2098
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 1: main thing that's important here is that we all understand that,

2099
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:28,799
Speaker 1: you know, we need to forgive them.

2100
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 4: Our brothers in Christ. Whoopsie bad, it's a sin, you know,

2101
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 4: like glutting, he's a sin? Or h yeah, eating shrimp

2102
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 4: before the New Testament is the sin?

2103
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 5: Like say't that cotton?

2104
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 1: The eighty eight year.

2105
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 4: Old resigned last month overclaimed the sexual abuse against a

2106
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 4: sixteen year old boy. Francis accepted Mcarag's regization as a

2107
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 4: cardinal last month after a US church investigation found that

2108
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:54,440
Speaker 4: an accusation he had sexually.

2109
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 1: Abuse of minor was credible. Archbishop A.

2110
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,719
Speaker 4: Gano has said he warned Francis about the allegation shortly

2111
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 4: at he became pope in twenty thirteen. But this guy's

2112
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 4: the moral barometer of the new Church, okay. In an

2113
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 4: eleven page statement, the archbishop compared cover ups of abuse

2114
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 4: within the church to a conspiracy of silence, not so

2115
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:16,760
Speaker 4: disfamiliar from the one that prevails in the mafia. Pope

2116
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 4: Francis has repeatedly asked for total transparency in church. Archbishop

2117
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 4: of Gano, a frequent critic of the pope, wrote in

2118
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 4: a letter which was carried by the National Catholic Register

2119
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 4: and several other conservative media outlets in the US and Italy. Yeah,

2120
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 4: so he they don't like this pope because he's too

2121
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 4: liberal for the conservatives, because he doesn't just outright say

2122
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 4: I hate gays and you know all this shit. But

2123
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,759
Speaker 4: at the same time, he still covered up child sexual abuse.

2124
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 4: So I'm surprised that they didn't do it about a

2125
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 4: one eighty and go, Actually, you know what, not a

2126
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 4: bad pope doesn't hate the gaze, but he does let.

2127
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 1: Us abuse people. I don't even take the good with

2128
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 1: the bad.

2129
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 4: But that's just how dogmatic the right wing is right now,

2130
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 4: in this extreme, samely dramatic moment of the Universal Church,

2131
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 4: he must acknowledge his mistakes and inn keeping with proclaimed

2132
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 4: the proclaimed principle of zero tolerance, Pope frances must be

2133
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:12,560
Speaker 4: the first to set a good example for cardinals and

2134
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,480
Speaker 4: bishops who covered up mccarricks abuses.

2135
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 1: And resigned along with all of them.

2136
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 4: The Vatican has not commit commented on the accusations, which

2137
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 4: include the asceritation I mean an.

2138
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 1: Assertion that other top officials were warned about McCarrick. One

2139
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 1: of the highest ranking figures within the church as early

2140
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: as two thousand and six. Mm hmm.

2141
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 4: We ask forgiveness for the abuses of Ireland, said the Pope.

2142
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 4: Abuses of power and conscious of conscious and sexual abuses

2143
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 4: perpetrated by members with it with rose of responsibility in

2144
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 4: the church.

2145
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 1: Now this is in Ireland, keep in mind we had

2146
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: one in the US two in a special way, we

2147
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 1: ask pardon for all the abuses committed in various types

2148
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: of institutions run by males or female religion and what

2149
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 1: or female?

2150
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 4: Okay, I guess all lives matter on this one. It's

2151
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 4: the one time where men and women equal.

2152
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 1: Right.

2153
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 5: Any other time women can't be in positions of power.

2154
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 1: And by other members of the church.

2155
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 4: We ask for forgiveness for those cases of exploitation through

2156
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 4: manual work that so many young women and men were

2157
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 4: subjected to. We ask forgiveness. How about you ask the

2158
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:29,600
Speaker 4: police to come pick some of y'all niggas up. The

2159
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 4: head of the gathering tweeted. Ireland is a different country

2160
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 4: to thirty nine years ago, but this visit has causes

2161
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 4: to reflect more deeply on the relationship between Ireland the

2162
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 4: Church brought to Ireland centuries ago. I don't understand tens

2163
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 4: of thousand people gathered to see this. Dude, Man, I

2164
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 4: don't know. I don't get religion, but part of this

2165
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 4: is not on me. You would think that that these

2166
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 4: scandals would be a death knil for a lot of people,

2167
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 4: and yet people still romanticize the church. They still romanticized

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01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 4: that era where the church people were going to church

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01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 4: every day. They were more religious, and they were more

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01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 4: and moral. It's like, were they more moral? Were they

2171
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 4: just not talking about it? Were they more moral? Were

2172
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 4: they being sexually assoughted about people in power that they

2173
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 4: couldn't even speak about because the police weren't gonna do ship,

2174
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 4: and neither was the church.

2175
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: Ah, God, ridiculous trash, all of them. All right, let's

2176
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:35,759
Speaker 1: move on to guests. Stor Race. Try to do something funny.

2177
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 1: Guess the raids some music. Mm hmmm, Now that it.

2178
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 5: Is time for some guests stor race. That's right, this

2179
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 5: guest the race time. Now that is time for some

2180
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 5: guests the race. That's right, this guest.

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01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 1: St that's right. It's time for guess the Race, the

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01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 1: number one game.

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01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 4: Soo're going across all the podcasts laing, we read the

2184
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 4: play news artists from all over the globe. And we

2185
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 4: asked our contestants today care and the chapter two guess

2186
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 4: the race, and of course everyone playing this.

2187
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 1: Race is all right, Let's get into it, guys.

2188
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

2189
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: Oklahoma woman allegedly killed her roommate over text to an

2190
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 1: ex fiance. Oh, shit roommates this Isa and Daniel roommate shit?

2191
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 5: I hope not.

2192
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 4: I mean, why would you kill your roommate over text

2193
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 4: to an X. Oklahoma woman's accused of killing her roommate

2194
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 4: actually wound text messages with her ex fiance.

2195
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: Oh. Her ex fiance christ and Elizabeth Jones, twenty one,

2196
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 1: allegedly shot her twenty three year old roommate, Miranda Penderson

2197
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 1: Peterson I'm sorry in the head, and then covered up

2198
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:56,759
Speaker 1: the murder by setting the house in Luther on fire. Wow.

2199
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 4: Jones ex fiance Bryson Harrington lived at the house with

2200
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,839
Speaker 4: both women. They alled shooting occurred when Jones discovered Peterson

2201
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 4: had been exchanging text with Harrington and a phone call

2202
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 4: monitor by authorities. Jones told Harrington that Peterson first stabbed

2203
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 4: her in the hand. Jonston alleged grabbed the gun shot

2204
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 4: Peterson in the back of the head.

2205
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: According to the police.

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01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 4: She also reportedly admitted to burning down the home to

2207
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 4: cover it up because she got scared. Hickory Hills Fire

2208
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 4: Protection District responded to the home around nine forty five

2209
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 4: am Monday.

2210
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 1: After the fire chiefs spotted the smoke. That's unfortunate.

2211
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 4: Well at the scene putting out the fire, they discovered

2212
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 4: a body inside the home. They immediately called the Sheriff's

2213
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,440
Speaker 4: office and we called our homicide.

2214
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: Investigators to the scene. She can get away for the nutting.

2215
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 1: They was like, this is a murder. Right.

2216
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 4: Authorities said they learned Jones fled to state and pulled

2217
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 4: her over Monday afternoon at traffic stop in Gainesville, Texas.

2218
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,600
Speaker 4: She was booked Tuesday in the Oklahoma County Jail on

2219
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:57,719
Speaker 4: suspicion to murder, arson, and desecration of the human courts.

2220
01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,719
Speaker 4: Guess the race of Christian Elizabeth Jones?

2221
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 1: White? Alright, let's check the chat room. See what y'all believe.

2222
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: Mm mmm uh white, white, white. I'm not gonna be ignored. White.

2223
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 1: Laverne and Shirley White recently saw Good Fellas and tried it.

2224
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:21,799
Speaker 1: White cheddar white single, white female, white, cracker, bunny boiler. White.

2225
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 4: Alright, The correct answer is she would get offended at

2226
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 4: Serena Williams catsuit white.

2227
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah she did that shit.

2228
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah she look a hot mess in this picture. Yeah

2229
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: she is.

2230
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 5: She BedHead, she just just woke up.

2231
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:51,679
Speaker 1: Well, she was in the car.

2232
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 4: When they got at a traffic stop, so maybe she

2233
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 4: slept in the in the back of the The police vegan,

2234
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 4: let's see how about and men are trash edition A

2235
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 4: man that started a hidden camera in the bedroom of

2236
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 4: a woman he wasn't allowed to date.

2237
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:21,759
Speaker 1: Police say, what yeah when fou quad wait fu kwave arena.

2238
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 1: Man said that he had romantic feelings for his friend's

2239
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: twenty seven year old daughter.

2240
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 4: The friend told him the woman was too young for him,

2241
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 4: so the police believed the thirty nine year old man,

2242
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:34,799
Speaker 4: Brian Keith Fisher, installed a hidden camera in the woman's

2243
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 4: bedroom and secretly captured images of her for three months.

2244
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: What he said, I couldn't date it then and say

2245
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't masturbate to her. I don't know.

2246
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:48,640
Speaker 4: Fisher was charged this week with one Felton count of

2247
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 4: secret peeping. According to an arrest warrant filed with Wake

2248
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 4: County of Courts. Basically, gotta say Fisher secretly installed for

2249
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 4: the purpose of arousing sexual desire a high definition camera

2250
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,799
Speaker 4: to catch a video images of the woman without her consent.

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01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 5: Oh, he wouldn't got the good camera.

2252
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 4: The alleged physicis occurred between April first and June twenty ninth. Ooh,

2253
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,679
Speaker 4: that's so many times she took a shower got addressed.

2254
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 4: According to the rest warrant, the victim told police June

2255
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 4: twenty ninth that she had found what appeared to be

2256
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 4: a hidden camera in her bedroom. The device, which looked

2257
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 4: like a USB wall charger, was located on a desk

2258
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,759
Speaker 4: and plugged in to an extension cord that was concealed

2259
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 4: by furniture. According to a search warrant, he kept the

2260
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 4: shit in there for from April to June, like ninety

2261
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 4: days or some shit.

2262
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 1: Almost. When the woman's father plugged in the device, it

2263
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 1: showed up on his password protect the Wi Fi A

2264
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 1: became suspicious.

2265
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:40,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that means whoever did it had the password

2266
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 4: to the WiFi too. H stream it when a woman's

2267
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 4: father the way.

2268
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: The man told the Texas that Fisher had previously expressed

2269
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 1: romantic feelings towards his daughter, but the father would not

2270
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: give his approval because of twelve year age gap between them. Also,

2271
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 1: it's weird. Hey man, I know me and you friendz

2272
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 1: you're thinking about me that your daughter.

2273
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 2: No, my.

2274
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 1: Nigga, you hang out with me to watch football with me?

2275
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 5: Another grown ass man.

2276
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 1: Say no browsers pouring parody ass ship nigga.

2277
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 5: This is right, you ain't meet her and then come

2278
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 5: by no.

2279
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 4: No police search fishes Hart found packaging for hidden camera

2280
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 4: in a kitchen trash can. Oh now here's here's what

2281
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 4: I don't understand. Guys, listen to this. The nigga is

2282
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 4: started April first, The fuck is this trash.

2283
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: Still doing in his trash can? And it's been ninety days?

2284
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: He throw it away?

2285
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:39,760
Speaker 5: What did he was like, I'm gonna go get it back,

2286
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 5: and just before the.

2287
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 1: Woman to run out, right, why right? What was the plan?

2288
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 1: And why wasn't this days ago? What the fuck was

2289
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 1: the plan?

2290
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,600
Speaker 5: I was gonna use that that best by one d.

2291
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 4: I kept the receipt just in case I only need

2292
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 4: ninety days of seeing these titties, then return it. Return

2293
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 4: it just got to sneak back in the room, like

2294
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:04,880
Speaker 4: did he find out they were coming over? And then

2295
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 4: I get rid of evidence?

2296
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 1: And the kittch your trashed hand. The police are never

2297
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 1: looked there never who the fucking idiot?

2298
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 4: The victim's father told Belize that Fisher had house sat

2299
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 4: for the family in May and knew the Wi Fi

2300
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 4: pass word. He also said Fisher had been acting odd

2301
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:22,719
Speaker 4: about the after the device was disabled.

2302
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: They cut the device off, like take this ship out.

2303
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 4: Someone's fine on us, and all of a sudden, excuse me,

2304
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 4: you know, while they were while they was as soon

2305
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 4: as they turned it off, like take this ship off,

2306
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 4: the WiFi unplugged from the wall.

2307
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Who the hell could be calling hello?

2308
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm just calling to see Uh was that

2309
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 2: some form of a password change? What? Bro?

2310
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 1: Why are you calling here right now? It is one

2311
01:51:58,280 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: of the morning.

2312
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm just asking, you know, because

2313
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 2: I did have the Wi Fi password, but all of

2314
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,679
Speaker 2: a sudden, you know, you want to know the WiFi password, Brian,

2315
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 2: it just wasn't working.

2316
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's a very odd time. You're not even

2317
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,719
Speaker 1: at my house right now, You're calling about the WiFi

2318
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: password at one in the morning.

2319
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 5: I'm just concerned about your Wi Fi safety.

2320
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 1: You are acting kind of odd, That's all I know. Okay,

2321
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 1: you acting really suspicious right now.

2322
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 2: I'm acting No, no, no, I'm not acting suspicious at

2323
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 2: what would ever give you?

2324
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:32,679
Speaker 1: Sir? He was over there like, hey, hey, real quick,

2325
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 1: put your dot on the phone, though, real quick.

2326
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 4: Can I talk to your doughter for a second? Okay,

2327
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 4: all right, cool, cool, all right, well look, look all right,

2328
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 4: I get it. It's a little appropriate. What's your daughter

2329
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 4: got on?

2330
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Though?

2331
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 5: He was like, whatever you do, don't move to finish

2332
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 5: around right right?

2333
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 1: What she got on? Right now?

2334
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 4: Can you just like kind of describe her too? If

2335
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 4: she can't, I mean you put on the phone she

2336
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 4: can say, okay, no you I.

2337
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 5: Know, but like, yeah, is some of your child was pink?

2338
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?

2339
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:00,879
Speaker 1: Them? Is still sitting like they doing that little birthmark

2340
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,840
Speaker 1: on the left side. Oh you know what, I gotta go.

2341
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 1: I gotta go for lasa knocking on my doe for

2342
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,000
Speaker 1: some reason. Hold on, hold on one second, I throw

2343
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: something trash can hey man, I'll call you back. Man.

2344
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:15,679
Speaker 1: So yeah, uh father, the father initially did I putting

2345
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 1: the camera in the uh waite.

2346
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 4: Fisher initially did not putting the camera to woman's bedroom,

2347
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 4: but minutes later told the officers he hadn't started the device.

2348
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 4: He was taking down the wait kund of Jerry's been

2349
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 4: held on five thousand dollars. Bell cortrecord show guess the rights.

2350
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 1: Brian Fisher, Brian Keith Fisher.

2351
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:33,759
Speaker 5: Brian Keith Fisher is white.

2352
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 1: I already checked the chat room to see what they believe.

2353
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 1: Creeping ass cracker White. I didn't know. I couldn't do that. White.

2354
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 4: White also recorded his passionate defense of Lucy K White

2355
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 4: promise keeper.

2356
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:47,800
Speaker 1: Remember White, I was only jerking off there. I didn't

2357
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 1: date there. I don't see the problem White? Who else did?

2358
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 4: Who else but Quagmar A brother, A brother would have

2359
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 4: just looked up through the window. White billy billy ball

2360
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 4: with silver white. What kind of nashta ass? Except the ship?

2361
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 4: Is this white and white fisher fishing for young cat?

2362
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 1: White? Young cat? Did a did a sixty old black

2363
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 1: man sneaking to the comments, I know a nigga.

2364
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,640
Speaker 5: No, I'm not dying, no HD camera, I can just

2365
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:15,719
Speaker 5: sit outside the window.

2366
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 4: Young cats sound like some of my old man to say,

2367
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 4: No cat diddy, y'all get some of that young cat,

2368
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 4: young young blood anyway, y'all all right, he's white.

2369
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 1: You gotta creepy face in a creepy hairline. All right,

2370
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 1: bonus frown is creeping. And the race and the race,

2371
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 1: that's right, dobl the points, doble the race and the

2372
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: bonus rider. Guess right? So far? Oh god, no, what

2373
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: is happening? Why? Why is this doing this?

2374
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 2: No?

2375
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh they just gave me an answer.

2376
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: Hold on second, that's ruin anyway, butters ron Karasu two.

2377
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: We'll do a different story.

2378
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 5: Okay. Uh, I was looking like, why am I seeing

2379
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 5: the screen change?

2380
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 1: We'll do a different one. That was a good one too.

2381
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 1: I'll save it for another day when everybody's forgotten.

2382
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 5: Because you know I won't remember.

2383
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 4: Saint Francis hospital guard accused of having sex with a corpse.

2384
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 4: Oh members Tendessee, a Saint Francis hospital security guard, was

2385
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 4: arrested after witnesses told police they saw him having sex

2386
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 4: with a corpse.

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01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: Cameron, right, how did you get ahold of him? With

2388
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 1: the security guard?

2389
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 5: Was he walking around security shooting? Was like, hey, who

2390
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 5: left this here?

2391
01:55:57,640 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 6: Show?

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01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 1: Then look sexy. I guess I might have to be

2393
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 1: a bodyguard. It's two things stiff in this room, you

2394
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 1: and me. Yeah?

2395
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 2: So uh.

2396
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 4: Kevin Wright was charged with abusive corps. Two witnesses told

2397
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 4: police they saw right act in the act, in the act.

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01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 1: With the female corpse in the hospital's body storage room Wednesday.

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01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: They saw him in the act. What dog, what were

2400
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 1: you doing?

2401
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 5: I told you he was walking around and looked up

2402
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 5: and just was like, this is I'm about to do.

2403
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:38,840
Speaker 5: And guarantee you that's not the first time he's done that.

2404
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine it would be. I mean, it

2405
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: sounded like a sounded like a bold act that you

2406
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 1: tried once he got away with it.

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01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 5: Right, he knew where they kept the bodies at like.

2408
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:59,839
Speaker 1: He did, right, I hey, where the body is at Cow?

2409
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:05,920
Speaker 1: Then the supplyers with whatever maccardiac. Yes, I got some

2410
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 1: courses in here, all of that.

2411
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 2: You know.

2412
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 1: I can't forget U about my cup. Oh sorry, guys,

2413
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 1: that on me.

2414
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, So two winners and say they caught him in

2415
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 4: the act with a female corpse because he ain't gay.

2416
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm staying, I ain't no hormo.

2417
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 2: I just gotta be sure. And I'm fucking them. They're

2418
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 2: gonna be all female, and.

2419
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 1: I fucking corpses all woman, baby. Okay, So she says

2420
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 1: then us of what her brothers curse, she says. Then

2421
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 1: use of what her brother's.

2422
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 3: Accused of doing here in a hospital storage room has

2423
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 3: just sent jones throughout her entire family.

2424
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 1: She says.

2425
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:52,120
Speaker 3: Even before this, there were warning signs something just wasn't

2426
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 3: quite right with her brothers.

2427
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 1: She wants him to seek and the one is sign

2428
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 1: of fucking a corpse.

2429
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 5: Be it ain't too.

2430
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 3: Yet, too man, say they witness Ship twenty three year

2431
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 3: old right having sex with a dead woman and a

2432
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 3: buddy story trip.

2433
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 1: You used to fuck road kill, but we never thought

2434
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 1: he'd do this.

2435
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 5: Oh and could you could you imagine that? Gotta be

2436
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 5: demasted Transis hospital? Could you imagine?

2437
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 2: I gotta be devastating for the more because you know

2438
01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 2: they clean the bodies and ship.

2439
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 5: Like that, you clean the body.

2440
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 1: You know, No, man, a lot of the courses lately

2441
01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 1: have been filled with firm having sex, don't I don't know.

2442
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 2: I mean they didn't tell me, they didn't say nothing

2443
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 2: about a sexual assault.

2444
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just firm over everyone lately, every everybody,

2445
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 1: every corpse comes in, it's just ferms.

2446
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 5: I don't know what what's happening. We have to wash

2447
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 5: them down. I don't understand.

2448
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:56,720
Speaker 1: You have got to get to the bottom of this shot.

2449
01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:00,440
Speaker 1: It's a shot. Brothers just it's not right right.

2450
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 3: Sister's still struggling to process the news.

2451
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:04,839
Speaker 1: I can't believe it, even though there's.

2452
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 3: Part of her that does believe it, describing her brother

2453
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 3: as childlike with the mind of someone much younger as

2454
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 3: a mature adult, you're.

2455
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 1: Not gonna go and play with toys, you know.

2456
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 5: The kid told he's dead type.

2457
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 2: He will play with b begune you know, you know,

2458
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 2: just things a child would find interest in.

2459
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 3: A licensed security guard who moved back to Memphis after

2460
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 3: several years in South Carolina. We've learned right one's worked

2461
01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 3: security at another Memphis hospital, but that was more than

2462
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 3: a year ago.

2463
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 2: He wanted to be a cop, and I guess that's

2464
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 2: the closest thing you get at the moment.

2465
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:41,120
Speaker 3: He had this job at Sir Francis through a private

2466
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 3: contractor called US Security Associates. Sir Francis says they fired him,

2467
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 3: writing his behavior quote does not represent what our hospital

2468
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 3: stands for, and it's completely unacceptable.

2469
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 1: I think he's still a good person.

2470
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 2: He just he just needs help.

2471
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 5: I mean, because anybody that does something like that.

2472
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 1: He's got be something wrong with him, all right, Karen,

2473
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 1: guess the race? What was his name? Cameron? Right? Oh,

2474
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 1: I think Cameron's black. Karen's going with black. Let's check

2475
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:15,960
Speaker 1: the chat room and see what they believe on this

2476
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 1: very controversial edition. Actually I need to find a picture of.

2477
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 4: Let's see the chat room says pussy Wagon killed Bill,

2478
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 4: but he may be black maybe or ismail ain't no

2479
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 4: maybees And guess the race black?

2480
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:34,120
Speaker 1: Black. The victim kept a stiff upper lip throughout the

2481
02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 1: whole ordeal.

2482
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 4: Black Oh, necrophilia nation, black courts fucking the Cameron nasty

2483
02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:45,120
Speaker 4: ass black, just nasty black, six inches black, sent too

2484
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 4: many hot zombies, seen too many hot zombies in The

2485
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 4: Walking Dead? Black Oh tipped his forty to her memory

2486
02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 4: before the act. Oh, black dead ass fucked the shit

2487
02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 4: out of her literally, black h This this does not

2488
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:04,720
Speaker 4: represent who we stand for, what we stand for? Also, Black,

2489
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 4: we gotta save our sons black.

2490
02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I save them? Why did that take me out? Okay?

2491
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 4: Black me Memphis black and black? The correct essa is black.

2492
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 4: Did anyone say anything but black? Did everybody go black

2493
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 4: on that?

2494
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:42,240
Speaker 1: What was the giveaway? Your sister, Oh, okay, and then

2495
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:44,080
Speaker 1: don't see pictures of him with a woman. I'm like,

2496
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:46,160
Speaker 1: is that the corpse or his sister? Like, what is

2497
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 1: the like, what's the significance of showing the picture of

2498
02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:53,120
Speaker 1: a woman next to him? That's him? By the way,

2499
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 1: it looks pretty matter of fact about the whole thing, Like, yeah,

2500
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 1: be fucking corpses and ship y'all know what Tuesday? Oh lord,

2501
02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:08,320
Speaker 1: it's like you can't even fuck courses no more at work? Man,

2502
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:10,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Me Too movement ain't got

2503
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 1: out of control. How this man is supposed to be get.

2504
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 5: Back, well, I guess that would be the depth of

2505
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 5: the me too movement.

2506
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:21,240
Speaker 1: Then on literally how he's supposed to get back. I mean, listen, I.

2507
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 5: Mean, I mean, these victims can't protest.

2508
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: We need a path for these men to get back

2509
02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:28,240
Speaker 1: at the job. I mean, it's good day he's out

2510
02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:32,400
Speaker 1: here having sexual courses again at the at the old

2511
02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:33,120
Speaker 1: jobbi job.

2512
02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:35,560
Speaker 5: I mean, they can't create no hashtag.

2513
02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:38,800
Speaker 4: Support these black brothers. These false accusations is putting us

2514
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 4: in prison. Okay, sorry, ck.

2515
02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2516
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:05,320
Speaker 4: The good news is that I was reading more of

2517
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:08,040
Speaker 4: the article and it looks like he will be going

2518
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:10,040
Speaker 4: on tour with Luisy k opening for him.

2519
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:12,440
Speaker 1: So y'all don't worry about It's fine.

2520
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:13,480
Speaker 5: Nobody gets canceled.

2521
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:16,200
Speaker 4: It's called the can't keep by Dicks to ourselves tour.

2522
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 4: And uh, it'll be coming to a sitting near you.

2523
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:19,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

2524
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:22,080
Speaker 5: They gonna be out there killing it they are.

2525
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:27,760
Speaker 1: Okay, you will die laughing and then he will try

2526
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 1: to be on top of you, so be careful.

2527
02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:32,120
Speaker 4: A be offaet woman was remanding the custody yesterday, I

2528
02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 4: accusing her of the being accused of having a sword

2529
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:38,960
Speaker 4: of public. Genie Lee Lavery appeared before the City Magistrates

2530
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:42,280
Speaker 4: Court with in connection with a lleged incident at Laird

2531
02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:43,160
Speaker 4: Park on Monday.

2532
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:44,760
Speaker 1: The thirty six year old.

2533
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:51,200
Speaker 4: Glenn Loose Gardens, Okay, faces a charge of possessing an

2534
02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:55,160
Speaker 4: article with a blade or point in a public place.

2535
02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:58,840
Speaker 4: A publo use officer said he could connect her to

2536
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:02,120
Speaker 4: the alleged fence. No further details of disclosed during the

2537
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:02,680
Speaker 4: brief hearing.

2538
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:05,440
Speaker 1: Defense Solicitor Pat Kelly confirmed on instructed that she does

2539
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 1: not wish to apply for bell. So she was out

2540
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,720
Speaker 1: there with the sword, living dangerously, so they locked the

2541
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:15,640
Speaker 1: ass up. Yuh, can't blame her, ain't.

2542
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 2: I do?

2543
02:04:18,160 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 1: One more?

2544
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:21,280
Speaker 4: Police are searching for men wanting a connection with a

2545
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 4: sticking sword attacking queens. Police don't a lookout for a

2546
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:26,720
Speaker 4: group of men catching on surveilous video attacking a man

2547
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 4: and queens of sticks in the sword. Investigator said the

2548
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:31,640
Speaker 4: incident happened around seven am Sunday when a twenty six

2549
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:34,200
Speaker 4: year old man was approached by four men. The suspects

2550
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 4: at first threatening the victim by just.

2551
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 1: Playing the gun. He then attempted to get away, but.

2552
02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:39,440
Speaker 4: Tripped and was cornered by the four men and the

2553
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:42,040
Speaker 4: sawder was sticks in the sword the men. The group

2554
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:43,840
Speaker 4: of men managed to flee the scene, while the seriously

2555
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 4: injured victim was taken to Jamaica Hospital on a stable condition.

2556
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 4: The first suspect is described as being a prossimately eighteen

2557
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:53,800
Speaker 4: to twenty four years of age, approximately six to one,

2558
02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:55,920
Speaker 4: with black hair, facial hair, medium build.

2559
02:04:56,280 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 1: He was last seen wearing a red shirt and green sweatpants. Man.

2560
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:02,880
Speaker 4: I think I know who these people are, and this

2561
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:07,640
Speaker 4: is what happens when you lock up Mariah Dillard, I

2562
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:12,080
Speaker 4: mean Stokes, Mariah Stokes, When you back up Mariah Stokes.

2563
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 1: The crime goes crazy on the streets of New York.

2564
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 4: Okay, so hopefully Luke Cage can do something about this,

2565
02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 4: because I don't know what the problem we got sore

2566
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:27,080
Speaker 4: crimes in the big city. All right, guys, we'll be

2567
02:05:27,200 --> 02:05:30,600
Speaker 4: back tomorrow. Until then, thank you so much for listening.

2568
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 4: We appreciate y'all.

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02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:34,600
Speaker 1: I love you to