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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into One Bill's Live here on a Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we are.

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Speaker 2: One day removed from a seismic trade by the Bills,

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Speaker 2: them moving Stefan Diggs to Houston along with a sixth

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Speaker 2: round draft choice this year a fifth next year in

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Speaker 2: exchange for a second round pick in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: You've had time to digest it. We'll get into just

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Speaker 2: what we have on the table for you in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But in case you were unaware, General manager Brandon Bean

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Speaker 2: addressed the media late yesterday afternoon. We'll have some of

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Speaker 2: his comments coming up in just a few seconds here,

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Speaker 2: as we kind of pulled some of his more noteworthy

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Speaker 2: comments on the decision to trade Diggs, and he did

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Speaker 2: make it sound like it had been in the work,

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Speaker 2: in the works for a few days, not a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: And he also, which was interesting, Steve made it sound

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Speaker 2: as though the Houston Texans reached out to them said

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Speaker 2: it's not the first team that did it. There were

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Speaker 2: others that had made inquiries, which isn't uncommon in the

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Speaker 2: off season.

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Speaker 3: And we know.

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Speaker 2: Because there were reports that Houston had been in the

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Speaker 2: market for a veteran receiver for some time. They were

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Speaker 2: trying to land Keenan Allen when it became evident he

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Speaker 2: was going to be a salary cap casualty of the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: He ultimately goes to Chicago in exchange for a fourth

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Speaker 2: was kind of interesting to hear him spell things out

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Speaker 2: in terms of how this all came to fruition.

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Speaker 1: Part of this comes down to, you know, you got

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Speaker 1: a twenty last year or this year, as we know

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be thirty one point one, but it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be twenty seven eight or twenty eight almost twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: almost twenty eight million dollars anyway for Steph Diggs. And

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Speaker 1: that was before and that was before you paid him

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Speaker 1: eighteen and a half million this year, Am I right?

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Speaker 1: So how is Steph Diggs gonna play as good as

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Speaker 1: Steph is or as as he's ever been? Could he

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Speaker 1: get that kind of value for that kind of money?

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Speaker 1: So you got that not no question, you're gonna make

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Speaker 1: a hole if he's not here, but there's no way

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get the value for that kind of money

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Speaker 1: in the cap for that guy going forward, it certainly

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Speaker 1: with the new offensive coordinator, you have reason to believe

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be much less than that. So you can

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Speaker 1: bite the bullet and let him go and take the

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Speaker 1: cap hit without him posturing for next year that way, financially,

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Speaker 1: while still having Curtis Samuel, Ate camp Hamdler, kJ Hamler

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Speaker 1: and the rest mac Hollins, Shakir, Kincaid, Cook, you gotta

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Speaker 1: feel still feel like, Okay, we're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: score some points and win some games, and this will

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Speaker 1: really set us up to have some space in the cap.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna have some space too at June one,

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Speaker 1: when Trey White's contract comes off the board, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. It does say something that the team was

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Speaker 1: willing to go without Steph Diggs and take the thirty

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Speaker 1: one million dollar cap hit and take as opposed to

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Speaker 1: a twenty eight million dollar cap hit with him.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they freed up twenty seven million dollars for

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it gives them some space next year, no

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Speaker 1: question about it. But still that's that's a statement, There's

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Speaker 1: no question about it.

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Speaker 3: The timing of it is that's uncommon.

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Speaker 2: It's not often you see a trade like this happened

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Speaker 2: three weeks before the draft.

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Speaker 3: That is not common.

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Speaker 2: What's also not common is watching a team take on

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Speaker 2: additional cap responsibility by moving a player. And I think

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Speaker 2: that's why none of us really gave much thought to

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Speaker 2: the possibility that he would be moved this offseason. I

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Speaker 2: think next off season, when the savings could be twenty

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Speaker 2: seven million dollars, it became far more evident that it

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Speaker 2: entering his age thirty two season.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, it's and not for nothing.

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Speaker 1: You gotta think that there was a market out there

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Speaker 1: were more teams out there interested in maybe getting digs

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Speaker 1: off the Bills. And you see guys like T Higgins

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Speaker 1: and say, let's trade for T Higgins. Let's get that.

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Speaker 1: up with the draft picks and all that. T Higgins

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Speaker 2: I don't know that they can't. The only reason I

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Speaker 2: say that is you obviously can't. You can't trade for

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Speaker 2: option this year for fourteen point one. If you're going

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Speaker 2: can structure a contract in such a way where bonus

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Speaker 2: play quite literally for the veteran minimum this year to

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Speaker 2: fit him under But that is a deal that's going

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Speaker 2: to have to be agreed upon before the trade's even executed.

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Speaker 3: You can't make a trade for.

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Speaker 2: A guy who's on the cap for twenty one to

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Speaker 2: eight to Higgins because he doesn't fit under.

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Speaker 3: Your cap right now.

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Speaker 2: You've got to have a deal in place on an

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Speaker 2: or whatever the compensation is to get him in your building.

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Speaker 3: It's not out of the realm of possibility. You could

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Speaker 3: do that.

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Speaker 2: You just put him at a bargain basement price this year,

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Speaker 2: knowing full well he's here for the long haul and

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Speaker 2: he's going to get the majority of the contract starting

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Speaker 2: next year when you have the twenty seven million in

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Speaker 2: cap room afforded to you by virtue of the dig straight.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, we've been jumping through hoops thinking

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Speaker 1: about the draft picks. The number two that came back

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Speaker 1: them two number twos next year. They've got a number

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Speaker 1: two this year, number one and number one. So that's like, well,

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Speaker 1: there's five picks in the top two rounds of this

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Speaker 1: to go from twenty eight up to well, you pick

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Speaker 1: you've got to have a trade partner in that, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of those teams need those top ten picks badly, badly.

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Speaker 2: let's hear some of Brandon Bean's comments from yesterday's press conferences.

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Speaker 2: He addressed the media late yesterday afternoon after we were

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Speaker 2: off the air to kind of lay out the organization's

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Speaker 2: thoughts on the Stefan Diggs trade. Will begin with Bean's

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Speaker 2: comment on how they reached a final decision to move

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Speaker 2: on from Stefan Diggs after four seasons.

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Speaker 4: Anytime you make a move like this, as I said,

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Speaker 4: very difficult, you're doing it. You're trying to win, and

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Speaker 4: sometimes people may not see that. You know, this is

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Speaker 4: by no means the pills given up or trying to

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Speaker 4: take a step back or anything like that. Everything we

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Speaker 4: do we're trying to win, and we're going to continue

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Speaker 4: to do that. It's you know, it's April the third

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Speaker 2: And I think the reason he felt it necessary to

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Speaker 2: tune with the visceral reaction or the initial reaction that

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Speaker 2: was what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was the initial reaction.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was getting on my phone yesterday, in

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Speaker 2: the form of text from every friend and family member

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Speaker 2: I got that's got me in their contact.

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Speaker 1: You can imagine that it was unrelenting. Yes, I agree,

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Speaker 1: and that's I experienced the exact same phenomenon with my

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Speaker 1: text Sloops. But I'll say this in the in the

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Speaker 1: you use certain words and people go off. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: took There's no question that took a step back. But

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Speaker 1: it does set them up to be in a great

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Speaker 1: spot for the coming season. And I believe their margin

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Speaker 1: that's saying nothing about the upside that could happen with

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Speaker 1: the guys they've already got kJ Ham, Samuel's, Shakir Kincaid,

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Speaker 1: Cook knocks go on and on and on. All those

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Speaker 1: hang in there offensively with anybody, anybody, and so moving

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Speaker 1: on from Digs at this point and getting something back

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Speaker 1: for him, no question. We used this phrase yesterday a lot.

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Speaker 1: It was a year probably rather a year too early

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Speaker 1: Diggs is. That's where they're at with Steph Diggs. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's any question He's got a lot of

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Speaker 2: Not gonna be number one the pecking order down there,

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Speaker 2: He's behind Nico Collins, who is squarely the number one

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Speaker 2: receiver in Houston, may even be behind Tank Dell in

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Speaker 2: the slot. I mean, Diggs could be going to Houston

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Speaker 1: He might. But then again, if Steph Diggs is the

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Speaker 1: it to guys who aren't open. I mean, yeah, Diggs

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Speaker 2: He figures to get open more often if the opponent's

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Speaker 2: If he's going against twos and threes every week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he may may doctor.

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Speaker 1: This may be great for Steph, particularly at this point

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Speaker 1: of his career. It'll be interesting to see how Steph

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Speaker 1: Diggs plays next year, both individually and within that group

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Speaker 1: down there, how it works out, because he he was

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Speaker 1: a force here in Buffalo for four years. He was

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Speaker 2: Brandon being kind of spelled out how the trade came

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Speaker 2: to be finalized as you know, talks between them and

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Speaker 2: the Texans ramped up early this week and.

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Speaker 4: It's you know, it's not the first time we've been

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Speaker 4: called to ask would we move him, you know, even

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Speaker 4: prior to this year. You know, but you discuss it,

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Speaker 4: you know when you get calls, and there's been plenty

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Speaker 4: of players that have been called about that never got

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Speaker 4: moved that we discussed and just felt like that wasn't

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Speaker 4: the right time or that wasn't the right value. I

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Speaker 4: think with this move, you know, as we're talking with

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Speaker 4: you know, Houston in this case, you know, the last

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Speaker 4: couple of days was you know, the value seemed to

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Speaker 4: make sense and the timing made sense, you know, for

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Speaker 1: Yeah there, Now, they may they're gonna somebody's gonna get

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Speaker 1: Steph Diggs targets. It's that simple. What happens after that

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Speaker 2: He's never had the chance to be a number one

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Speaker 1: So it's it's more question marks, no ques, no doubt

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Speaker 1: He's gonna do fine. Whoever gets those targets, particularly Gabe

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Speaker 4: We'll just there's still veterans out there. We'll still look

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Speaker 4: we'll do the same Matt. We'll grade our draft board,

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Speaker 2: So that I mean, he's going to stick to with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's there's no question. The proof is gonna be

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Speaker 1: how far that how far that means? Who knows? I mean,

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Speaker 2: The final comment from Brandon Bean was probably his most

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we're ever going to fully understand

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna use the COVID year as an example here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Steph Diggs a hard guy to replace, no

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for you today? What would be your

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, thinks taking my call?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 6: First, living in Houston as a Bills fan. Yesterday wasn't

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Speaker 6: I said, the number one corner or being double teams.

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Speaker 6: He was taking those defenders away from Shakir, from Dawson Knox,

439
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Speaker 6: from all those guys to get open easier and making

440
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Speaker 6: it easier on Josh even though he didn't digs in

441
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Speaker 6: and get the catches, he was making the other wide

442
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Speaker 6: receivers lives easier. Now you take digs away and Davis away,

443
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Speaker 6: their lives got a lot harder. That's why I kind

444
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Speaker 6: of had a difference of opinion when it came to

445
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Speaker 6: Gave Davis being number two, because it was kind of

446
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Speaker 6: like he had he had four touchdowns in that Kansas

447
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Speaker 6: City Chiefs game, but we had Cole Beasley, we had

448
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Speaker 6: Emmanuel Sanders. Even Singletary had more catches that year than

449
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Speaker 6: Gave Davis did. So nobody was watching Dave Davis. That's

450
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Speaker 6: why he So he became a number two based off

451
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Speaker 6: of that of what that game did. We lost when

452
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Speaker 6: we lost all of those guys, we saw true colors

453
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Speaker 6: of Dave Davis and he wasn't. He wasn't a number two.

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Speaker 6: So that's my that's my worry is now we lost

455
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Speaker 6: Steph and that coverage team that was looking at him

456
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Speaker 6: are now going to be looking at other guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, the pecking order is gonna go get

458
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Speaker 1: clicked down one notch with these guys who who. As

459
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Speaker 1: a defense, you gotta ask yourself, who they're gonna see

460
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Speaker 1: as a number one guy or who they're gonna take

461
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Speaker 1: away first, and it may be by down and distance

462
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Speaker 1: in formation where they decide can cage the number one,

463
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Speaker 1: or she cures the number one, or Sanders is the

464
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Speaker 1: number one, or who who whatever what have you. That's

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Speaker 1: not that hasn't changed. But you're right, the guys behind

466
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Speaker 1: whoever emerges to that number one is life is going

467
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Speaker 1: to be different because they've never whoever is on if

468
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Speaker 1: they're doing lining up with the guys they've got. None

469
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Speaker 1: of these guys have been that guy. Uh but somebody,

470
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Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna put their number one on somebody

471
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Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. Everybody else is I think still

472
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Speaker 1: in uncharted territory anyway. You know, Shakir, how are team's

473
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Speaker 1: going to see him? He was either number three last

474
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Speaker 1: year number two at times? What was he? King k

475
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Speaker 1: number three by the end of the year, right, kin kaid?

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Speaker 1: What was he at the end of the year?

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Speaker 3: Was he number two?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So all these guys are going to have a

479
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Speaker 1: different a different season, but they're also going to have

480
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Speaker 1: different opportunity and ostensibly a greater opportunity. So I'll just

481
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Speaker 1: say this again. I don't think there's a lack of talent.

482
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Speaker 1: I think there's a lack of answers because we just

483
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Speaker 1: don't know. We got to see these guys in these

484
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Speaker 1: new roles. That's even if Steph Diggs was here. Shakiir

485
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Speaker 1: is going to have a much more prominent role than

486
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Speaker 1: he did a year ago, particularly in the first half

487
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Speaker 1: of the season. King kaid same thing. He had a

488
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Speaker 1: slow start to the season. You know, Cook, James Cook.

489
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Speaker 1: He came out and he's going to be the guy

490
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Speaker 1: going in let's go. He was that last year, but

491
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Speaker 1: he had some drop issues last year. These guys are

492
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Speaker 1: going to be in some evolving roles. With Steph Diggs

493
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Speaker 1: not in the mix, that's going to change things up.

494
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Speaker 1: You're right, it may make life harder for some guys,

495
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Speaker 1: but it may not for others. So, but that's what

496
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Speaker 1: you're risk. But yeah, that's that's the risk.

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Speaker 2: With the voye you've left here because you need somebody

498
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Speaker 2: to fill the number one role capably. Nobody on the roster,

499
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Speaker 2: to Steve's point, has done it yet in their professional career.

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Speaker 2: So who do you get to fill that and feel

501
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Speaker 2: comfortable that it's been filled? That is the burning question here,

502
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: and whether they believe there's a draft prospect who can

503
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Speaker 2: handle it as a rookie, or whether they feel someone

504
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Speaker 2: like a Curtis Samuel can finally ascend into that role

505
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: in his age twenty sixth season. That all remains to

506
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Speaker 2: be seen. Maybe it's a veteran that they can acquire

507
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Speaker 2: by trade and do it that way, somebody who's entering

508
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: his pride rather than the backside of his career as

509
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: was the case, or Dog.

510
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Speaker 1: Or you have four guys on your roster and they

511
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Speaker 1: all get ten targets a game. Yeah right, I mean,

512
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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? That's what's wor's happening. You

513
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Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to emerge and how it's

514
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Speaker 1: going to be. It's but taking Steph Diggs out of

515
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver mix does change the way defenses will

516
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Speaker 1: perceive this offense, and that remains to be seen.

517
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Speaker 3: Let's go to Eric and Syracuse next. What's up? Eric?

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Speaker 8: Hey, how you guys are doing doing all right?

519
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Speaker 9: Good?

520
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Speaker 8: So this is uh, what I think is a Bills

521
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 8: fan is I think, like what Brandon Bean said is

522
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 8: we all need to have patience and wait and see

523
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Speaker 8: what happens. Now what I would do if I was

524
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Speaker 8: in the Bills position, and I know Steve mentioned this

525
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Speaker 8: the other day, taking their twenty eight pick, taking their

526
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Speaker 8: next year's first round pick, possibly moving up and trading

527
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Speaker 8: with Denver, who is potentially maybe going to go after

528
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Speaker 8: maybe a bon Nix, which taking of that position is

529
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Speaker 8: kind of too early, So could Denver move back to

530
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Speaker 8: twenty eight and get bone Nicks in that I think

531
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Speaker 8: would make more sense, and in doing so, now Buffalo

532
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Speaker 8: holds the twelve spot, and with Tennessee and Atlanta in

533
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Speaker 8: seven and eight, taking maybe an offensive tackle and Atlanta

534
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Speaker 8: going defense, I think either of those players would be

535
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Speaker 8: available at twelve had Buffalo.

536
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Speaker 7: If Buffalo was.

537
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Speaker 8: Able to trade with either Tennessee or Atlanta and in

538
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Speaker 8: doing so could offer their twelve and possibly the second

539
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 8: round pick they just got for Diggs and which case

540
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Speaker 8: they can maybe get Odoonday. If that fails, I think

541
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Speaker 8: Lad McConkie would be a good fit. You would take

542
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Speaker 8: over Stefan Diggs. He can create space and go from

543
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Speaker 8: there and then possibly again maybe getting a veteran after

544
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Speaker 8: they released Tredevius White, maybe get Beckham, and I think

545
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Speaker 8: with that they would have a pretty good chance of

546
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Speaker 8: making up for digs. And with that, I will let

547
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Speaker 8: you guys talk. Appreciate the time and thank you for everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, thanks for calling it.

549
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If you take this year's number one,

550
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: it's got like on this I'm looking at draft tech

551
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: mock draft value chart, you get six hundred and sixty

552
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Speaker 1: points for the twenty eighth pick. If you take that

553
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Speaker 1: double it, which is your This is kind of if

554
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Speaker 1: you're going to give me yours next year second and

555
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: you finish the same spot, that's the value of the

556
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Speaker 1: pick that you're getting. That's thirteen twenty. That moves you

557
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Speaker 1: all the way A two ones moves you all the

558
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Speaker 1: way from the Bills at twenty eight. That'll move you

559
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Speaker 1: all the way up to between nine and ten Chicago

560
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Speaker 1: and the Jets, and if and so that's what you're

561
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Speaker 1: looking at now. If you throw in one of next

562
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Speaker 1: year's two's and you're throwing that gets you all the way. Okay,

563
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: that gets you all the way to maybe five where

564
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 1: the Chargers are. So that gives you you give them

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Speaker 1: two ones and a two maybe and a next year's

566
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Speaker 1: two so cause you'll have then in that way you'll

567
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Speaker 1: have this year's second and next year second and no

568
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Speaker 1: number ones for this year next year. Well, the fact

569
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Speaker 1: that you'll take.

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Speaker 2: It, yeah, I don't see that's a lot. I don't

571
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: see Brandon Bean parting with that draft capital h We're

572
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Speaker 2: up against the break here, but I'll tell you why

573
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Speaker 2: when we come back. Eight oh three oh five point

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Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty the

575
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Speaker 2: number to get on board. What is your next move

576
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Speaker 2: for the Bills in acquiring a wide receiver in the

577
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: wake of the Stefon Diggs trade? You let us know

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Speaker 2: taking your phone calls next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colleida healthed S Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

580
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: a day after the Digs trade. What would be your

581
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: next move for the Bills in acquiring a wide receiver?

582
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 2: You can let us have it at eight oh three

583
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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five

584
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Speaker 2: fifty or on the tweet sheeet at One Bill's Live.

585
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Speaker 2: We'll take your comments there a little bit later on

586
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Speaker 2: in the show, but we lead off with people holding

587
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Speaker 2: with Nick in George, what do you got for us?

588
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: Nick?

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00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 10: I figure it's just gonna be Uh, trading up. But

590
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Speaker 10: I have two words, which is Sammy Watkins and uh,

591
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Speaker 10: but are there any June one releases of wide receivers coming?

592
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Speaker 3: Uh?

593
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Speaker 2: Not that I can think of off the top of my head.

594
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: I'll have to go take I'll have to go take

595
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: a second look. But I don't I don't believe so.

596
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Speaker 2: And those players, if they're going to be a June

597
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: first release, can negotiate with teams. Proof of that is

598
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: Tradeavius White has already signed with the Rams and he's

599
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: a June first release. So it's not like teams can't

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00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: talk to June first releases. Uh, they're open to do

601
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: that right now if they choose to do so.

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Speaker 1: It's a good question, though, I mean, and there's no

603
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Speaker 1: as we say. You know, Obj's out there, and there

604
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: are guys out there, and I'll check.

605
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: The Y They got DJ Shark and Roger Renfro and

606
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: players like that.

607
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Speaker 1: So there's guys out there whose names you know a

608
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: lot of You know, if you're a like Brownie and

609
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: Eye a goner, you'll recognize their names. Like I'll give

610
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: you an example here. It is it's Calvin Ridley. Well, no,

611
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Speaker 1: here's no, no, no, this is the bottom of the list.

612
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Speaker 1: Here we go top of the Laviska Chanos, he just signed,

613
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: Paris Campbells Watkins he signed Okay, here we go vaiable

614
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: players Hunter Renfro, Alan Robinson, Odell Beckham Junior, Michael Gallup,

615
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd, Michael Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem. Here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Signing a veteran free agent is difficult because you only

618
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Speaker 2: have three million in cap space right now. You'll get

619
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Speaker 2: another ten in June for the tradevious.

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Speaker 1: White Elite eleven for your rookie club.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, unless you're going to part with

622
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Speaker 2: a first round pick.

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Speaker 3: To sign.

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Speaker 2: That's why I think, long story short, I don't think

625
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Speaker 2: signing a veteran free agent who isn't going to play

626
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: for the minimum is feasible because are you signing Odell

627
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: Beckham junior for more than one year?

628
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Speaker 3: You're not.

629
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Speaker 2: He's too old, he's on the down side.

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Speaker 1: He's been injured too much.

631
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Speaker 3: He's been injured too much too acls.

632
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Speaker 2: But he's also not going to play for peanuts. Well,

633
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Speaker 2: you don't have the cap space to sign a guy

634
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Speaker 2: like that, and is he capable of filling a number

635
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: one receiver role anyway? No, who does someone like Brandon

636
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: Ayuk in San Francisco who's on a fifth year option.

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00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: The Niners probably are not going to be able to

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Speaker 2: afford to sign him to a large contract with all

639
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Speaker 2: the other contracts they have over there. They only have

640
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: seven and a half left under the cap right now.

641
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Speaker 2: Maybe if they can get a first round draft choice

642
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: in return, they would listen to offers for somebody like

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Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk. Now the Bills would have to then turn

644
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: around and sign him to a contract extension. But that's

645
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 2: a guy you're gonna have for the long term. So

646
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: now you can move money into the future where you

647
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: have more cap space twenty twenty five, twenty twenty.

648
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Speaker 3: Six, sign him for the absolute.

649
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: Bottom minimum this year to fit him under your cap,

650
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: and then put option bonuses in twenty twenty five and

651
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six where he'll get the vast majority of

652
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Speaker 2: his big money. A player has to be willing to

653
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Speaker 2: do that. You have to have somebody willing to accept

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Speaker 2: the compensation that you're willing.

655
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: To pay that, and it has to be a player

656
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: that you want, and.

657
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: It has to be a player that you want.

658
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: Brandon Aiyuk's a player that I would want. Tee Higgins

659
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: is a player I would want who's been given permission

660
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: to seek trades. So if you can work that, I

661
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: think that is where Brandon Bean would be willing to

662
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: give up a future first round pick.

663
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: I don't think he's giving up a future one.

664
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: To move up the board.

665
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: I think he'll give you his one this year.

666
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: He might give you a future two, might give you

667
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: a two this year. But I don't see him giving

668
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: up a future one. The only time in Brandon Bean's

669
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: history where he has given up a future first round

670
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: pick is for Stefan Diggs. So if that's gonna if

671
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: he's gonna give up a future one again, it's gonna

672
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: be It's exactly That's my point. You don't know if

673
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: Roman Day's gonna be good. Here's no t Higgins is

674
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: gonna be good.

675
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: You know Brandon Ayuk's gonna be if you give up a.

676
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Future Oh man. I here's the thing. I they know

677
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: if they've done their work as you know they do.

678
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys, they're they're as we're speaking, they're

679
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: how we're grinding film. We know they're in We see

680
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: them all and they're in here. They pop their heat

681
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: of the room, get a cup of coffee, and go

682
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: back and watch them film. So they're in here grinding,

683
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: so they know a done, say uh, Marvin Harrison Junior,

684
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors, Brian Thomas Junior. They know whether those guys

685
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: completely know how good they think, they know how good

686
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: those guys are gonna be, if they're gonna jump up.

687
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: If and if here's what. If Brandon Bean takes this

688
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: year's one twenty eight, next year's one, if it was

689
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: a twenty eight two, take it for granted, and then

690
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: next and one of the twos he has next year,

691
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: they could jump into almost the top five.

692
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: I don't think he does it.

693
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: That's a big number. But you gotta remember you're only

694
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: giving up a one and a two because this year

695
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna pick one anyway, so that one counts. You

696
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You'll use you use one, and

697
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: you give up the next one, and you give up

698
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: a two as well, and you're gonna move up from

699
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: twenty eight. You can get up to almost five.

700
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this, Okay, that's what you're looking at,

701
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: Brandon Beans.

702
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: Your that's the question you gotta ask yourself.

703
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean traded up in the first round twice in

704
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 2: the twenty eighteen draft, two trades to get Josh Allen

705
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: and a third to get Tremaine Edmonds. Right, he never

706
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: gave up a future first round pick in any of

707
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: those deals. He's not doing it now. I'd be stunned

708
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: if he does. I think he only gives up. I'm

709
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: not saying he wouldn't do it. I say it's unlikely.

710
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 2: And the reason why is because he covets first round

711
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: pick so much that the thought of giving up not

712
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: only his pick at twenty eight, but then another one

713
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: in the future for an unknown commodity at the NFL level,

714
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: I don't think.

715
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: That works for him.

716
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: I think if he's gonna trade a future one, he

717
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: does it for a proven NFL commodity, somebody like a

718
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: Brandon Gigs, somebody like a T. Higgins, because that's what

719
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: he did in the past. He did it for Diggs,

720
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: as he.

721
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: Doesn't do it to get a franchise quarterback.

722
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: Here's this, he isn't under the cap constraints then that

723
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: he is.

724
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: Now, well that's true.

725
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: Now he's gotta have a guy that's playing for free.

726
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: You just freed up twenty seven million next year.

727
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: Well that's next year, dude.

728
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but you can structure the contract and pay

729
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: the guy next year.

730
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: Can get a guy next year, you got you can

731
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: get the guy this year and he can be playing

732
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: for nothing. Not nothing, but you know what I mean,

733
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: a rookie contract. He's gonna play for like zero and

734
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: he and you got a chance, and he's gonna be

735
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: better than at least Gabe. Well what does that saying

736
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: that's your floor and then he's gonna be ten years younger.

737
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: I just then the dude, you just trade it.

738
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: I just think you're putting a lot. You're putting a

739
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: lot on that first round pick. He doesn't he can't

740
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 2: come in and just help. Think he's gotta be the guy. Yeah,

741
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: but Brownie, think about it. The guy think about this.

742
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: If if he did this, and that means, hey, he

743
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: still got his sixtieth pick two, right, So he takes this,

744
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: he takes this year's one, next year's one, and next

745
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: one of the two next year's twos that he's got.

746
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: Maybe give him the Minnesota in the higher one. That's

747
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: going to be whatever you put and say, you jump

748
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: up and you can have your pick because you go

749
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: all the way up to Arizona and you have your

750
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: pick between rom A Doonza and or Malik Neighbors. So

751
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: he may he pulls the trigger and gets one of

752
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: those two guys.

753
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: I'll be I'll be ecstatic, but I just wait, there's

754
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: there's a risk concern.

755
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: Let me just say this, You and I will spend

756
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: the next eight months tamping down expectations, because everybody will say,

757
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: that is it, that is the that is the final

758
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: green of rice, that will tip the scale in favor

759
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: of our Emperor Josh Allen. That we will spend eight

760
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: months tamping down the expectation if he pulls if he

761
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: takes this year's one, next year's one, and one of

762
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: the twos next year and jumps all the way up

763
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: to Arizona and has his pick between Malik Neighbors or

764
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: Roma Donze or maybe all three of those Ga, maybe

765
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: there's you know, maybe you know that you will not

766
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: be able to bridle in the runaway expectations this team has.

767
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: And for good reason, and not only that, they'll be

768
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: rolling in through this season with that guy and rolling

769
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: in the next season with thirty million bucks in their pocket.

770
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 3: And and number two right, But yeah, I don't brostly.

771
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: That's a lot to put on. Now, that's a lot

772
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: to put on.

773
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: A number one pick walk in the door, be our

774
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: number one wide receiver.

775
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: This is not for Steve.

776
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: I get it.

777
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: I understand. Like people are gonna throw out examples.

778
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna say, wow, what about the Falcons with Drake London?

779
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 2: They picked him eight, he worked out well, they haven't

780
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: won anything. Wait and then hold on, and then Garrett

781
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: Wilson comes in for the Jets, a pick ten, has

782
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: a big rookie season and then has another good what

783
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 2: about him?

784
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

785
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 2: What are the expectations in New York before Aaron Rodgers

786
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: got there?

787
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 3: They're not the same as they are here. It's different.

788
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: And what and what's gonna be the prevailing line of

789
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: questioning for this guy coming in the door? You think

790
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: it can be Stefan Diggs. You think you canna got

791
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: one hundred catches this year?

792
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: Brownie?

793
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna be relentless Brownie.

794
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: No, Brownie, come on, he comes into Buffalo. It's not

795
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: about what you and me and and all those all

796
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the jamokes like us in the media,

797
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna like, oh, what do you think about that list.

798
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna be sitting there with Sean mc Mcnermot's gonna

799
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: be telling him, and Joe Brady's gonna be telling him,

800
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: and Josh Adam's gonna be telling him. Curtis Samuel's gonna

801
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: be telling him, Khalil Shakir is gonna be telling him,

802
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: Knox Kincaid, They're all gonna be telling him. Say, bro,

803
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: just be, you don't worry about all that stuff. If

804
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: you play your game, you're gonna be fine. He's gonna

805
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: have guys in that room. This this is but just this,

806
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: just din. The stuff that goes on here in Buffalo

807
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: is zero in comparison to what happens in New York.

808
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: He isn't gonna be. He's gonna be. This guy's gonna

809
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: be one of these Either one of these guys gonna

810
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: be fine. They're gonna be fine that don't worry about expectations.

811
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. You can't worry about that.

812
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: I like the prospects in this year's draft. You know,

813
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: I think that there are probably four of them that

814
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: could be number one receivers in this league. I was

815
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: looking at it under the guise of this is a

816
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: guy you draft high and he's your future number one receiver.

817
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 2: But he doesn't have to be this year because Diggs

818
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: is still here. Now that vacuum has been created, and

819
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: I think it changes the dynamic a little, not to

820
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: the point where I wouldn't take one of those guys,

821
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: but it changes the dynamic of what to expect from

822
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: that player on this roster come on this year.

823
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 3: That's just the way.

824
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: Let me just because because all we get the kid

825
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: comes in. All you know, Sean McDermot says, down Day

826
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: one says no, no, no, no, no no no. Dalton Kin,

827
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: Cadence and Curtis Samuel are number ones. We're gonna give

828
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: ten time to he may in fact, he's not even

829
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: taken reps with the ones yet. Just just set him to,

830
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: just let him relax and gest state it just for

831
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: a minute. I don't know, And then when you get

832
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: to training you can't need that guy. You know.

833
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: You didn't need that guy?

834
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, not today, not tomorrow, not even not until November.

835
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

836
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: Give it to him, give us, give him to us

837
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: in November. Just like last year. We get November, mid November,

838
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: we switch offensive coordinators and go six and one down

839
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: the stretch and we're right back in the divisional round again.

840
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: Here we go, Diggs and Davis on the roster. Those

841
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: guys aren't this roster's with that guy on this roster.

842
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: They're better on day one, let alone mid November. Come on,

843
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 1: bro sleeve, all.

844
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: Right, we gotta we talked a lot. We talked enough.

845
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: We gotta take a break here. Sorry, we didn't get

846
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: some more phone calls. We'll get some more on the

847
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: other side of the break. As we went off on

848
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: a ramp there, heavy debate here.

849
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: I can't get the weed eater out.

850
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm down.

851
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: We will get to your calls here in the next day,

852
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: I promise. On One Bill's Live.

853
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 3: Stay tuned.

854
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

855
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. We're gonna go back to the

856
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: phone where we got some people waiting patiently, and to

857
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: Dave and Clarence next.

858
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: What's up Dave, Hey, guys.

859
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 5: Good afternoon. Uh to uh listen, I'm in the camp

860
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 5: that believes and hope that Beams is very aggressive either

861
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 5: in free agency or in the draft and do whatever

862
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 5: he has to do to uh have killed that void

863
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 5: because we're very troubling to hear yesterday him say that

864
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 5: are we uh better off today or worse off today? Yeah?

865
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: We are?

866
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 5: Okay, Now, I say, I hope he has something up

867
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: his sleeve because I think he's a very intelligent guy

868
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 5: and would not have made this move without a lot

869
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: of poor thoughts. But if this deal happens to backfire,

870
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 5: I hurt. I hearkened back to the Bigger Bills of

871
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 5: eighty nine, Steve, and Uh, there we had adults in

872
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 5: the room. Everybody got together, shook hands, put their differences aside.

873
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: Kelly had his you know, after game parties and all

874
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 5: the Kumbai jah and we went to post Super Bowls.

875
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 5: So if if people were tired of business tweets and

876
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 5: all the childless stuff, okay, just you know, you snatched

877
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 5: the guy in and reading the Riot Act, but you

878
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 5: don't get rid of that much production because you're tired

879
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 5: of it. You know, you've got to have a plan B.

880
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 5: So uh, I hope and I really pray as a

881
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 5: Mafia member that they have a plan B, an aggressive

882
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 5: plan B to follow this. Uh what right now looks

883
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 5: like a great tobacco Thanks guys, let me hear your thoughts.

884
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: Let me see this, Dave, I'll say this too, and

885
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: what happens. And because they're not this kind of people,

886
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: and I don't believe they're you know, they're they wouldn't

887
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: do this, And I don't know that it's even appropriate

888
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: because all we've ever heard about from Steph in that

889
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: out of that locker room, from Josh and everybody out

890
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: there is they love the guy that I he was great. Uh,

891
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: certainly his media presence and his online presence, you know,

892
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: hints at you know, this kind of diva mentality and

893
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: all of that. Uh, but we had no we had

894
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: we never get any of that from Brandon Bean or

895
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermotry of that stuff. Yeah, certainly there was to

896
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: do at the OTA's last year when Steph came in

897
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: then left for the day. I remember all that. So

898
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: you got little hints like that, But from the media

899
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: or from the rhetoric that McDermott, Bean, Josh Allen teammates

900
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: all said about Steph, they love the guy. What would

901
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: happen and how would your perception of this team be

902
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: if they said, yeah, we were willing to take a

903
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: thirty two million dollars hit on the cap just to

904
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: get rid of the guy, we're better today than we

905
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: were yesterday. I'm not saying that's what he said, because

906
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: he didn't say that. He said just the opposite. He says,

907
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: we're probably not as good today as we were yesterday.

908
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he just moved a one hundred catch receiver

909
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: off the roster. There's no way you can be better

910
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 2: right now.

911
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: But you're right your point, Dave is and saying personnet

912
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: and chemistry and all this culture stuff, it does mean something.

913
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: Now.

914
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that what they're planning. I'm with you.

915
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: I think Brandon Bean does have a plan for getting

916
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: better and getting a guy and replacing one hundred catch

917
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: guy on the roster. But I'm not gonna say their

918
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: production offensively is gonna fall off a cliff now because

919
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: they have Curtis Samuel instead of Steph Diggs. I think

920
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: their margin of air is enormous with Josh at quarterback,

921
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: and Shakir and Cook and kin Kate and the offensive line.

922
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: I think there a margin of air is enormous. So

923
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not bummed about the production on the field.

924
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: I am curious is to find out how it changes

925
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: things in the locker room and in the huddle, but

926
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Speaker 1: we'll never know.

927
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: All right, gotta take a break here because we're up

928
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Speaker 2: against the clock again. When we come back, we're gonna

929
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Speaker 2: be joined by lead draft analysts for Pro Football Focus,

930
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Speaker 2: Trevor Sikkima, who, in the wake of the Digs trade,

931
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Speaker 2: put together a seven round Bill's mock draft. We'll see

932
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 2: who he picked from round one through round seven when

933
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colia Health.

934
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

935
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health.

936
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Speaker 2: All right now, number two on a Thursday, Chris Brown,

937
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Please to be joined now by

938
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: lead draft analysts. We're Pro Football Focus, Trevor Sikima, who

939
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: struck while the iron was hot, Steve in the in

940
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: the of the Stefan Diggs trade, the guy goes mental

941
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 2: and does a seven round Bill's mock draft.

942
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Speaker 3: He's insane, Trevor. How you doing.

943
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 11: Is what this time of year is all about.

944
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 12: Anytime any move happens, you know, people are just jonesing

945
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 12: from mock drafts. Oh okay, Stefan dig Skiet's move boom.

946
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 12: Here's what the Bills are doing. Here's how they're moving forward.

947
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 12: We got to look forward, right, There's no looking past.

948
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 12: It's always looking to the future. So, yeah, the move

949
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 12: inspired me to get to the bill of seven round

950
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 12: mock draft a little sooner than was on the schedule.

951
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 11: But I had some fun with it.

952
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly did. And we'll get into some of

953
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: those picks in just a second. But why don't you

954
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: just kind of lay it on us, You know, your

955
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: impressions at first blush when the move happened, number one,

956
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: and then you know the compensation number two, knowing that

957
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 2: you know, just a short time ago, Keenan Allen only

958
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 2: got the Chargers of four and you know Amari Cooper

959
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: a year or two ago only got the Cowboys of

960
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 2: five and a six.

961
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Speaker 12: Yeah, look, it's it's it's a major move. I mean,

962
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 12: regardless of even the price. I mean, Stefon Diggs is

963
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 12: one of the best wide receivers in the NFL. You know,

964
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 12: the combination of him and Josh Allen, it is just

965
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 12: one of the best QB wide receiver combinations that we

966
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 12: had in this league. So to break that up for

967
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 12: whatever the compensation was going to be, it was going

968
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 12: to be something that was going to leave a way

969
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 12: throughout the rest of the NFL. You know, for them

970
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 12: to get I honestly, I kind of feel like they

971
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 12: could have gotten more for Diggs, but look, you know,

972
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 12: the contract situation kind of is what it is. Maybe

973
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 12: he wanted out a little bit. You see all the

974
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 12: dead money that they're taken on. Maybe that hints that,

975
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 12: you know, Stephon was ready to move on. There've been

976
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 12: some rumors of that over the last couple of years,

977
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 12: although I know that he has put those things down.

978
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 12: But you know, at least getting a second round pick,

979
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 12: I guess, like you said, you know, compensation for some

980
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 12: of the other wide receivers who maybe were in a

981
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 12: similar spot. We're looking to get some change of scenery

982
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 12: or whatever it was, weren't able to garner even a

983
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 12: second round pick, even a future second round pick.

984
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 11: So it seems light given.

985
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 12: The talent of player that Stefan Diggs is, but is

986
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 12: over thirty now, So for the Bills to kind of

987
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 12: get that if he wanted his way out, then I

988
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 12: guess that that makes sense, right, But now it kind

989
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 12: of leaves a major hole on the roster because wide

990
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 12: receiver was already a big need for the Buffalo Bills

991
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 12: and that was because of the departure of Dave Davis.

992
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 12: Now it's you know, exponentially that much higher because the

993
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 12: wide receiver one is gone as well. So you know,

994
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 12: when you compound Diggs leaving with you know, some of

995
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 12: the guys like you know, Tredevious White and Micah Hyde

996
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 12: and Jordan Poyer and like, yeah, these guys no longer

997
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 12: being on the team. The whole identity it feels like

998
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 12: it is shifting. You know, it's always going to be

999
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 12: a built around Josh Allen as well as much as

1000
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 12: long as they have Josh Allen, but a lot of

1001
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 12: those core identity guys from what was this current Bill's

1002
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 12: winning window are gone. So it's just a big change

1003
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 12: of identity and what this team is going to be

1004
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 12: moving forward. And I think Diggs was probably the biggest

1005
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 12: domino to fall of the guys that have been yeah,

1006
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 12: look have moved on.

1007
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 11: I would say over the last two years.

1008
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: You had no question about it. And one of the

1009
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: things that we were going around and around, of course,

1010
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: that the gut reaction is that because of the gaping

1011
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: hole it leaves at the one number one wide receiver spot.

1012
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: You think, okay, this is a setup for a move

1013
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: that Brandon Bean may make on draft or before the draft.

1014
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: Does it say seem like that to even after twenty

1015
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: four hours, maybe you can kind of take a deep

1016
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: breath to sit back and say, now they can still

1017
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: draft a guy. But what are your thoughts on the

1018
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: replacement of Digs and what the plan might be for

1019
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: going about it? What's your next step?

1020
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1021
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 12: So, I mean the rumors immediately after the trade for

1022
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 12: kind of what the Bills were gonna do. I mean,

1023
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 12: I saw a lot of people on Twitter and Instagram,

1024
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 12: you know, talking about, Okay, well, now the Bills, like

1025
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 12: you mentioned, are gonna get really aggressive to potentially move up.

1026
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 12: And I can see that in a vacuum like you mentioned, Okay,

1027
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 12: Major hold a wide receiver needing a wide receiver one,

1028
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 12: there's some good ones in this draft.

1029
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 11: Let's go trade up and get one.

1030
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 12: But to get from twenty eight to the top ten,

1031
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 12: which is what it would require to draft one of

1032
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 12: you like Malik Neighbors or Romo Dunesay, I don't think

1033
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 12: that Marvin Harrison is going to be in play. And

1034
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 12: in order to get up to that point to draft

1035
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 12: one of those guys you're talking about a Julio Jones

1036
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 12: type of trade. You know, multiple first round picks and

1037
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 12: some Day two picks as well. And look, Julio worked out.

1038
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 12: But I think that a lot of people would tell

1039
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 12: you in most cases it's not giving up that type

1040
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 12: of a price for any non quarterback.

1041
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 11: Is just it's so steep. And so yeah, if.

1042
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 12: You go get yourself a Julio Jones, I think you

1043
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 12: would say that it was worth it. But Julio Jones

1044
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 12: won in a decade type of a player, right, So

1045
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 12: it's hard to bet even as talented as we believe

1046
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 12: Malik Neighbors and Romo Dunes, they are gonna be for

1047
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 12: that player to be worth that type of a trade price.

1048
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 12: So instead, for Buffalo, it's a little bit tricky because

1049
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 12: they've got a lot of Day three capital. They have

1050
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 12: the first round pick, the second round pick, no third

1051
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 12: round pick, two fourth round picks, so it makes even

1052
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 12: a little trade up a little bit tricky for them.

1053
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 12: They might have to dip into some twenty twenty five

1054
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 12: capital if they want to trade up a little bit.

1055
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 12: But you mentioned that seven round mock draft that I

1056
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 12: did for this team. So I went into that mock

1057
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 12: draft and said, okay, I'm not gonna trade. I'm not

1058
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 12: going to trade twenty eight. I'm gonna stick at twenty eight.

1059
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 12: Let's see what happens if I don't move. And unfortunately,

1060
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 12: not only were those top three wide receivers gone Brian

1061
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 12: Thomas Junior from LSU and Adie Mitchell from Texas, we're

1062
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 12: also both gone by the time I got to number

1063
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 12: twenty eight. So it just means that you have to

1064
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 12: sort of have a change in philosophy. And ultimately, I

1065
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 12: think the answer to your question comes down to this,

1066
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 12: do the Bills still think they are all gas, no breaks?

1067
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 12: We're in our winning window. Let's go for it, because

1068
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 12: if you are trading up for a wide receiver, one

1069
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 12: becomes more worth it for you. But if you look

1070
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 12: at all of the veteran departures that they've had over

1071
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 12: the last two years and say, okay, we need to

1072
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 12: kind of retool this roster a little bit, then you're

1073
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 12: not going to want to pay the price to move

1074
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 12: up from twenty eight all the way up there, because

1075
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 12: you're going to want to use those picks not just

1076
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 12: this year, but also next year to retool that rock

1077
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 12: to hopefully slingshot yourself back into a winning window instead

1078
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 12: of being in a full rebuild.

1079
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: All right, So you know you choose to replace you know,

1080
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: Mitch Morse for all intents and purposes, with the first

1081
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: pick at twenty eight in your mock for the Bills,

1082
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 2: and you go Jackson Powers Johnson, the Oregon center who,

1083
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: along with Graham Barton, are probably considered the cream of

1084
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: the crop for interior O line in this draft. And

1085
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: then you go receiver after that in round two. And

1086
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: you know, we've heard time and again.

1087
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 3: How deep this receiver is. There are some who.

1088
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: Are of the belief that you can have year one

1089
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: contributors as late as round three at the receiver position.

1090
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: And you go with one of the Washington triumvirate in

1091
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 2: Jalen Polk. Maybe just lay out why you think he's

1092
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: a fit for what the Bills want to do.

1093
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, so he makes a lot of sense, especially when

1094
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 12: you look at the current Bills wide receiver room now, right.

1095
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 12: And I think that this team, as much as they

1096
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 12: like Kaloshakir, obviously, you bring in Curtis Danmuel for a reason.

1097
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 12: You're bringing Mac Collins for a reason. I think that

1098
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 12: they are still of the mindset that hey, we're not

1099
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 12: letting anybody who's on the roster right now take away

1100
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 12: from drafting any type of wide receiver shape or size

1101
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 12: that we think could really benefit this team the most.

1102
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 12: So it doesn't have to necessarily be this way. But

1103
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 12: I like Jalen Polk because this past season he was

1104
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 12: a big time vertical threat, which of course I think

1105
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 12: that they're trying to look for that still with Gabe

1106
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 12: Davis's departure.

1107
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 11: But he's also a big contested catch guy.

1108
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 12: You know, he brings some good He's not overly you know,

1109
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 12: imposing with his physical measurables, but he'll go up strong

1110
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 12: to the catch point. He'll give you some great contested catches,

1111
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 12: some full body extension type of catches. He's super super

1112
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 12: strong when it comes to corraling things and taking those

1113
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 12: big hits after he reels the ball in. So that

1114
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 12: sort of identity as a wide receiver is what I

1115
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 12: gravitated towards there. There were some other guys that on there,

1116
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 12: like his teammate Jalen McMillan was on the board, you know,

1117
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 12: like a Malachai Corley from Western Kentucky was still there.

1118
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 12: I think that you had, you know, Jamari Thrash from

1119
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 12: from Louisville, who is a nice deep threat himself. Like,

1120
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 12: all those guys were still there, but Pulk was the

1121
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 12: best for me. Oh, I think I should also mention

1122
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 12: tes Walker, the vertical threat, the blazing speed vertical threat

1123
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 12: guy was also on the board, But I still liked

1124
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 12: Hulk the most because I felt like he brought a

1125
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 12: contested catch and strength category to this wide receiver room

1126
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 12: that they don't have right now. So I really like

1127
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 12: that pairing with Josh Allen.

1128
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: And how deep do you think you know for a

1129
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,479
Speaker 1: day one, day two? Pick how many receivers you think?

1130
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: What's the range? I mean you just said that you

1131
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: know the top six guys will be gone before the

1132
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: last part of the first round. How deep does this

1133
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: thing go? And like say, through the first two rounds,

1134
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: how many wide house do you see get getting off

1135
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: the board.

1136
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'll just you know, list off a couple that

1137
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 12: I've got in my head. I mean, if you go

1138
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 12: at the five, so Marvin Harrison Junior, my league neighbors

1139
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 12: or almodoonzay, that's three, Brian Toms Junior is four, Ady

1140
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 12: Mitchell is five, Troy Franklin is six. You got Ricky

1141
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 12: Pearson and Lab McConkey. That would be eight. You got

1142
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 12: Kean Coleman I think is in that mix for nine.

1143
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 12: Xavier Lyguette from South Carolina's ten. Roman Wilson would make

1144
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 12: it eleven. Jalen Polk would make it twelve. And so there,

1145
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 12: I've got twelve wide receivers that I think I could

1146
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 12: make a case for all of these guys going realistically

1147
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 12: within the first two rounds.

1148
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 11: That's a lot of wide receivers.

1149
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 12: And it's not even counting guys like maybe Jermaine Burton

1150
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 12: from Alabama, who I think is talented enough to be

1151
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 12: in that category as well. Teses Walker with his blazing

1152
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 12: speed from UNC. Now we're at fourteen. Johnny Wilson in

1153
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 12: his unique size from Florida State, that's fifteen. So very

1154
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 12: easily I get into twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen receivers that

1155
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 12: all could potentially be in that let's say, you know,

1156
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 12: top seventy five range, where even we're going a little

1157
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 12: bit into the front end of the third round, I

1158
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 12: think we can get fifteen wide receivers in the top

1159
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 12: seventy five. They're just that talented this year, and let's

1160
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 12: face it, there's a lot of teams in the NFL

1161
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 12: that want to continue to build their passing attack, and

1162
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 12: this is a good year to do it. So I

1163
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 12: think you're going to see that and how many receivers

1164
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 12: are going to be selected in the top seventy five

1165
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 12: and top one hundred as well.

1166
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: So Trevor's got his seven round mock draft for the Bills.

1167
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: You can head over to PFF's mock draft simulator at

1168
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: pff dot com slash mocker check out the top prospects

1169
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft on PFF's big Board,

1170
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: which Trevor obviously has a major hand in. Let's just assume,

1171
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: Trevor that they don't part with a lot of draft

1172
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: capital to make a seismic move up the board into

1173
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: the top ten. But what about maybe just a slight

1174
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: move into the mid teens, you know, somewhere in front

1175
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: of maybe Cincinnati, who could be in the market for

1176
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 2: a receiver at eighteen. Maybe they do a deal with

1177
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: Jacksonville at seventeen, a team they did a deal with

1178
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: just last year to move up a spot for Daldenkincaid,

1179
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: and they move up into that sixteen seventeen category. If

1180
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: they see Brian Thomas sliding. Do you see that as

1181
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: maybe a more likely scenario for the Bills if they

1182
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: feel they still have to get that X receiver.

1183
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think so.

1184
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 12: And I think that anywhere like late teens, early twenties

1185
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 12: feels like the sweet spot, right. I mean, if look

1186
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 12: if Brian Thomas Junior is going off the board at

1187
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 12: you know, pick twelve, and then Ady Mitchell is coming

1188
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 12: off the board at fifteen, I mean, I don't know

1189
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 12: if you have much of a chance to kind of

1190
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 12: trade up and get one of those guys. But let's

1191
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 12: say both or one of them starts falling you get

1192
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 12: past Indianapolis sitting there at fifteen, because I think they

1193
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 12: could either take a wide receiver or they could take

1194
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 12: a corner you know, let's say that they offer maybe

1195
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 12: a cornerback selection. Both of these guys are still on

1196
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 12: the board by the time we get the Seattle at

1197
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 12: sixteen Jacksonville at seventeen. I agree with you, those are

1198
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 12: two teams that I think would be interested in moving

1199
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 12: back and picking up some extra draft capital. Cincinnati's sitting

1200
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 12: there at eighteen. They could go offensive tackle, although them

1201
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 12: bringing Trenton Brown makes it feel like they're gonna hone

1202
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 12: in on one of those wide receivers because they don't

1203
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 12: know what the future holds entirely with T Higgins. So

1204
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 12: I think that's say threat certainly for one of those

1205
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 12: guys to come off the board. But that's really where

1206
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 12: you got to do it right, because you keep getting

1207
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 12: a little bit further down. Okay, Pittsburgh could easily take

1208
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 12: a wide receiver, you know, Dallas could easily take a

1209
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 12: wide receiver. Maybe that would be in the cards for Arizona,

1210
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 12: even one spot ahead of.

1211
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 11: Where Buffalo is currently picking.

1212
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 12: And so there's a lot of spots where it's a

1213
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 12: big time threat for one of these wide receivers to

1214
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 12: go off the board. And so if they really want

1215
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 12: to get their guy and be confident about it, I

1216
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 12: think starting to pick up the phone and start to

1217
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 12: lay the groundwork for those trades with Seattle at sixteen,

1218
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 12: at Jacksonville at seventeen probably makes the most sense. And

1219
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 12: then maybe you're getting into okay, Miami at twenty one,

1220
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 12: you know, Philadelphia at twenty two. Well, obviously it'd be

1221
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 12: tough to trade with Miami with them being an Indivision team,

1222
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 12: But depending on what happens with the Minnesota Vikings if

1223
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 12: they still have the twenty third pick, or maybe they've

1224
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 12: traded it to go move up to one of these teams.

1225
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 12: That's kind of where you get some of the flex ability.

1226
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 12: I think either before the Bengals or sometime after the Steelers,

1227
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 12: right if one of those guys is still on the board,

1228
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 12: then I think you're getting the green light to move

1229
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 12: up and go get.

1230
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: One of them.

1231
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: One of the interesting things is which of you do

1232
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: you think the teams are the most intent on moving

1233
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: up and which of the teams are shopping their high

1234
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: pick to get out of there. Like an Arizona at

1235
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: number four, they've got Kyler Murray, but they've got that

1236
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver sitting out there, and they're the one. You know,

1237
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald was a guy that you know, they want

1238
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: to replicate that kind of complimentary piece. They want to

1239
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: get a Maybe they'll get Marvin Harrison Junior at number four.

1240
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: But you know, certain teams, it seems obvious, have got

1241
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: Denver being one of them. They've got to get up

1242
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: there to get one of those quarterbacks or the quarterback

1243
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: that they like. Chicago got a couple of picks in there,

1244
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: they could get a ton of picks to move back.

1245
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: Which of the teams do you think is the most

1246
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: intent on moving into those top picks, and which of

1247
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: those top picks do you think, yeah, we'll take some

1248
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,479
Speaker 1: extra picks and move back. Yeah.

1249
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 12: I think that when you look at the teams that

1250
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 12: are very desperate to move up, it's that gauntlet of

1251
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 12: Minnesota at eleven, at Denver at twelve, Las Vegas at thirteen.

1252
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 12: All three of those teams desperately need a franchise type

1253
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 12: of quarterback to believe it, And unfortunately for them, Chicago's

1254
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 12: taken a quarterback at one, Washington's taken a quarterback at two,

1255
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 12: and I have a hard time believing that New England's

1256
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 12: not going to take a quarterback at number three. So

1257
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 12: no matter what, now, the three of you are bidding

1258
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 12: against each other for basically one other quarterback that it

1259
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 12: feels like the NFL believes is worthy of a top

1260
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 12: ten pick. So unfortunately, there's only one team that's going

1261
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 12: to be able to get that.

1262
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: Now.

1263
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 12: You talked about the Arizona Cardinals, I think they are

1264
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 12: absolutely a candidate to move back. I think the Los

1265
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 12: Angeles Chargers at number five also a big time candidate

1266
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 12: to move back. I wonder if Chicago, since I think

1267
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 12: they only have four four total picks in the NFL

1268
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 12: draft right now. They have two in the first round,

1269
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 12: but then they have one in the third, one in

1270
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 12: the fourth. That's it, And so I wonder if they

1271
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 12: are comfortable, like Buffalo is it, because that to me

1272
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 12: is the most likely spot, right, like bringing Buffalo back

1273
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 12: into the conversation. But if Buffalo's sitting there at twenty eight,

1274
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 12: Buffalo's got all sorts of Day three capital now to

1275
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 12: move from twenty eight to nine, you're talking about you know,

1276
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 12: obviously moving pick twenty eight, you're probably giving up a

1277
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 12: first round or next year, but you're also gonna give

1278
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 12: Chicago one of your fourth round picks, one of your

1279
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 12: fifth round picks, maybe your seventh round pick, right, and

1280
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 12: then Chicago has an actual draft class that they get

1281
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 12: to sign and have contribute.

1282
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 11: So that's the spot that's worth it.

1283
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 12: But then you think to yourself, all right, well, if

1284
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 12: one of the top receivers, like let's say Romo Dunese

1285
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 12: is still on the board at number nine.

1286
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 11: Did in Chicago just take it?

1287
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 3: Right?

1288
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 12: I know they just brought in keenan now and I

1289
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 12: know they have DJ Moore, but man, you're drafting probably

1290
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 12: Kayleb Williams. Put your foot on the gas, baby, I mean, like,

1291
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 12: give the get the best team you can. So I

1292
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 12: think that there's that counter argument. But I look at

1293
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 12: those three teams, is the ones that are desperate to

1294
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 12: go up and get a quarterback with Minnesota, Denver, and

1295
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 12: Las Vegas. And you know, on the flip side of

1296
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 12: things too, Denver. You mentioned Denver is going to be

1297
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 12: super aggressive to go get a quarterback, But the question

1298
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 12: is aggressive with what they've got number twelve this year.

1299
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 12: They don't have a second round pick this year, so

1300
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 12: they go all the way, they drop all the way

1301
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 12: down to the third. And this team's got a lot

1302
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 12: of roster holes to fill. So are you really about

1303
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 12: to try to outbid the Minnesota Vikings that have two

1304
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 12: first round picks this year? I mean, in order for

1305
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 12: Denver to outbid them, they'd have to give three first

1306
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 12: round picks a second rounder next year. And at that point,

1307
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 12: you go, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we just got

1308
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 12: out of this with the Russell Wilson trade.

1309
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 11: Do we really want to go back in?

1310
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 12: So a lot of very fascinating things that could happen

1311
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 12: with those three teams for as desperate as they are

1312
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 12: for a quarterback.

1313
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of think that they're just going to

1314
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: try to sit tight and hope Michael Pennock slips to

1315
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 2: them and you know, Minnesota or somebody else gets out

1316
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: of the way and moves up and to get somebody

1317
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: like McCarthy is the fourth quarterback.

1318
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think one of the more likely things

1319
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: is that Vegas, New Orleans or Minnesota. I'm sorry, Vegas, Denver,

1320
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota just skip like tries to get to where the

1321
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: Jets are. This one pick, right, a little bit of

1322
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: a trade, just give it, let us flip flop and

1323
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: let us get ahead of let you know, Denver or

1324
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: Vegas jump ahead of Minnesota. Just get that next guy,

1325
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: and just so they get the first pick of whoever's

1326
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: next on the quarterback list. I think that might be

1327
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: a spot where the draft really gets a jockeying point.

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01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 3: Yep, Trevor, real quick.

1329
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: Last one I've got for you is, you know, concerning

1330
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: your seven round mock for the Bills post Digs trade,

1331
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: there are many that feel and this is understandable that

1332
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: you know, Bills fans want him to address wide receiver

1333
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: right away round one. Make it happen whatever you kind

1334
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 2: of laid out some ways in which that may not happen.

1335
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: I think whether they address one in round one or not,

1336
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: they got to come out of the draft with more

1337
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: than one. What would you say is a good over

1338
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: under for the Bills in the wake of this Digs

1339
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 2: trade for them to come out of this draft with

1340
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 2: I think they got to come out of this draft

1341
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: with it with at least two receivers, which is what

1342
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: you did in yours.

1343
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the same.

1344
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 12: I think the over under has got to be at

1345
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 12: two and a half, right, I mean, it's two or

1346
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 12: three of these guys. Now, you know, it just depends

1347
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 12: how many rookies they really want to carry. Because as

1348
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 12: much as you'd love to say, like, hey, let's get

1349
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 12: some new life in here, let's get some youth in here,

1350
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 12: you know, carrying three rookie wide receivers would be a

1351
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 12: tall task for you. So it's just a lot of

1352
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 12: new a lot of learning, a lot of the nuances

1353
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 12: of playing the position at the pro level that these

1354
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 12: guys are all going to have to learn that you

1355
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 12: might not have to teach, even a guy who's been

1356
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 12: in the league just one two years.

1357
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 11: Something like that.

1358
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 12: So carrying a lot of rookies is more challenging than

1359
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 12: I think people like myself who play a lot of

1360
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 12: Madden would kind of believe that it is. You know,

1361
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 12: there's a lot of underlying things that comes with carrying

1362
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 12: a lot of rookies. So I think the over under

1363
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 12: is right at two and a half. But I don't

1364
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 12: think that they would do more than three. You know,

1365
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 12: like I see some people it's like, hey, we got

1366
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 12: enough room to load up, you know, throw as many

1367
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 12: darts as the dark board as you can see which

1368
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 12: ones hit. And I just don't think that that's plausible.

1369
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 12: So I think it's probably somewhere around two or three.

1370
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 12: But again, I don't think it's less than two. I

1371
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 12: don't think it's more than three.

1372
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Speaker 2: All right, Trevor, thanks as always for the time. We

1373
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 2: appreciate it. We'll see if we can catch up with you,

1374
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: if not before the draft, certainly afterwards down the line

1375
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: here in the offseason.

1376
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 3: Thanks much.

1377
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 11: Yeah, I appreciate it guys anytime, all right.

1378
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: So be sure to head over to PFFS Mock Draft

1379
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 2: Simulator at pff dot com slash mock, or check check

1380
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: out the top prospects in the twenty twenty four NFL

1381
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: Draft on PFF's big Board. As lead draft analyst Trevor

1382
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: Sikima for Pro Football Focus is kind of spearheading those

1383
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: happenings over there at PFF dot com. He didn't wait

1384
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: the Dick strain happened banks Raven round block for the Bills.

1385
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: Dude.

1386
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 2: In case you were wondering, the other receiver that he

1387
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: took came in round five with Buffalo's pick at one

1388
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: sixty overall. It was Illinois receiver Isaiah Williams.

1389
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 9: Two.

1390
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, smaller guy.

1391
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 2: I've watched him uh and and seen some of his tape.

1392
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 2: I guess I would put it as you know, and

1393
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 2: kind of a typical prospect that you would expect that

1394
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: late in the draft. Little undersized, not fast, he's quicker

1395
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: than fast. He clocked a four six three forty at

1396
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: the combine, had a good ten yard split at one

1397
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 2: five nine and a thirty eight inch vertical, so he's

1398
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: got some springs. But he's five nine, has some punt returnability.

1399
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: Put together a one thousand yard season in his last

1400
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 2: year at Illinois decent return guy though, eleven and a

1401
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 2: half yards per punt return, that's not bad. He just

1402
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: doesn't have the pull away gear to finish plays in

1403
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: the end zone, you.

1404
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: Know, right, and you can imagine it's you know, he's

1405
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: one of those guys that is pretty good tag. You

1406
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: could play tag as a kid, never be it. Yeah,

1407
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Not fast, not fast, or at

1408
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: least he isn't time very fast. He's got very good

1409
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: short area of quickness.

1410
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: Slot receiver candidate, that's kind of what he.

1411
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:20,799
Speaker 1: Is, and a return candidate.

1412
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1413
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 2: I liked him best against zone coverage. He just seems

1414
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 2: to know where to sit down and identifies the coverage

1415
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: quickly and responds. So he's opened quickly for the for

1416
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:33,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback.

1417
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 3: I think. I think that's what.

1418
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 2: He does best. After four plus years in college though,

1419
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: I think he pretty much is what he is, So

1420
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: I think the reason he's going to go day three

1421
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: is because his ceiling is pretty limited. He kind of

1422
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 2: is what he is already. But let's get back to

1423
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 2: the phones. At eight h three oh five fifty one

1424
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number

1425
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: to get on board. We got open lines for you

1426
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: as we are asking you today, what is your next

1427
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 2: move in acquiring a receiver for the Bills in the

1428
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: wake of the Stefan Digs trade. Got an open line

1429
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: for you there, so hop on board. We'd be happy

1430
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: to get you on. In the meantime, we go to

1431
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 2: people who've been waiting patiently and waiting the longest is

1432
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 2: Joe and Tanawanda.

1433
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 3: What's up, Joe?

1434
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 10: Good?

1435
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 13: How you doing all right?

1436
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 10: You know, I'm really happy.

1437
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 7: I'm not really.

1438
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 13: Happy with this this trade. Losing Diggs this year. You know,

1439
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 13: Diggs had to a force this trade. Seems like Bean

1440
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 13: was just sick of the drama. If this trade doesn't

1441
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 13: free up cap space this year, if it doesn't bring

1442
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 13: in a player or draft pick this year, why make

1443
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 13: this trade this year? Why couldn't they just wait until

1444
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 13: next year to make this trade?

1445
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: If they held him, if they held him on the

1446
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: roster this year and then released him next year, it

1447
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 1: would be twenty eight and a half million dollars this

1448
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: year on the cap and twenty two next year, just

1449
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: over fifty million dollars over the two years. Hard for

1450
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: and that's what he'd count against the cap. It's hard

1451
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: for me to imagine you'd get that kind of value

1452
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: out of any receiver that you signed there, and now

1453
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: they're getting it for thirty two million against the cap

1454
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: in one year and being done with it. And you

1455
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: may be right. Maybe Steph Diggs did force the trade.

1456
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it did one out. I haven't heard anything like

1457
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 1: that from anybody involved in it, but I think there's

1458
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: no question it was a financial move more so than

1459
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: a football move.

1460
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 2: I will tell you, Joe, the timing of it is interesting.

1461
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 2: Usually these are kinds of moves that you take care

1462
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,839
Speaker 2: of sooner in the off season to kind of address

1463
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: your situation with more time in front of you in

1464
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: the off season, and doing this three weeks before the draft,

1465
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: it makes you wonder a little bit. Again, as Steve said,

1466
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: we don't know anything, but it is interesting the timing

1467
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: of a trade of this magnitude. Not to say it's

1468
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 2: unprecedented three weeks before a draft, but the timing is

1469
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 2: somewhat uncommon. So that's what's interesting here, and I think

1470
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 2: that's what's led to some of that speculation that Joe's referencing.

1471
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Cindy and

1472
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 2: Niagara Falls.

1473
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 14: What's up Cindy, Hi, guys, good afternoons. I just want

1474
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 14: to say that, you know, I'm sad that Stefan Diggs

1475
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 14: is going, and but you know what, I have my

1476
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 14: trust in Brandon Beasley and coach McDermott that they're gonna

1477
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 14: They know what they're doing, so I'm not And and

1478
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 14: one other things I heard yesterday about the gentleman that

1479
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 14: had the different jerseys he had and two out of

1480
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 14: three or three out of four he had to take

1481
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 14: down because they were all gone.

1482
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 9: We named our.

1483
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 14: Alaskan Husky Beasley Ellen Digg. So we're not changing his

1484
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 14: name because we love those players.

1485
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 7: Now, just going on with that, Okay.

1486
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: No worry, Cindy, thanks for the call.

1487
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be a change up for your dog too.

1488
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, I thought this was my name.

1489
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Yeah, I get it.

1490
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 2: Change his hard sometimes, especially when you have players as

1491
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: entrenched as Diggs was.

1492
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 3: I know.

1493
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: You know, we got a lot of calls on Jordan

1494
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 2: Poyer when he had to move on and was a

1495
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: salary cap casualty, among others. It's been a sea of

1496
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: change off season for the Bills. There are a lot

1497
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 2: of veteran stalwarts that have been on this roster some

1498
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 2: since the very beginning of the McDermott bean era that

1499
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: are no longer here. That's how the NFL works. Nothing

1500
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: lasts forever in life. It's even more accelerated in the

1501
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 2: NFL because careers, on average only last three and a

1502
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 2: half years. I mean, we talked about it about a

1503
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: month ago. Hide and Poyer playing together for seven on

1504
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: one team.

1505
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: It's unprecedented.

1506
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 3: It's almost unprecedent.

1507
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I said, at least in the free agency here. Yeah,

1508
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: I covered kicks with Mark Pike for over a decade,

1509
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: different time. Yeah, imagine how close friends we were. So

1510
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's not unusual. And you gotta know too,

1511
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 1: the Bills aren't the only ones going through some of this.

1512
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: Other teams lose, You lose great great players leave the

1513
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: game every year. Aaron Donald's saying goodbye this year. It's

1514
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: it's not easy. And he can still play, so this

1515
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: is no question going to And I did a radio

1516
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: interview as well this morning for another station out of state,

1517
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: and they want to know about the Digs trade and

1518
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: what it was. But you think about how different the

1519
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: Bills defensive roster is going to look, this year. You

1520
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: can say what you want about Steph Diggs, great player,

1521
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: and we're going to miss him, but the defensive roster

1522
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: is going to be rinsed. It's going to gone through

1523
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: the rent cycle. You're not going to recognize a lot

1524
01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: of those guys.

1525
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: Well, when you have eight free agents on your defensive line,

1526
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen.

1527
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: It's uh's gonna be. I think there are more question

1528
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: marks on that side of the ball than the offensive side,

1529
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: even with the departure of Steph Diggs.

1530
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but more of your

1531
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: phone calls when we return. We're wide open for calls

1532
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 2: the rest of the way, So we'll get to you

1533
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 2: next here on one Bill's Live. Stay with us all right,

1534
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: back here on one of Bill's Live and talking with

1535
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 2: you today about your next move in the Bills acquiring

1536
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: a wide receiver in the wake of the Stefan Diggs trade.

1537
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 2: You let us know at eight oh three, five point fifty.

1538
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: Got some people waiting patiently here and we'll lead off

1539
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: with Bill in Old Forge.

1540
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 3: What's up Bill?

1541
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I'd love to see him go up and

1542
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 7: get one of those top guys, but I don't think

1543
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 7: they're gonna they're gonna sell the farm and do that.

1544
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 7: No do I think they have the ammunition to go

1545
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 7: up there and get one of those guys. But I'd

1546
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 7: love to see Brian Thomas if he falls to them.

1547
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna be gone by time Buffalo picks though.

1548
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 7: But Lad McConkey, to me, would he be a reach

1549
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 7: of twenty eight? What a consolation prize that we landed

1550
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 7: that guy. He is totally a McDermot guy. He's fits

1551
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 7: the culture of the team. He runs great, crisp brutes.

1552
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 7: He's great even at Georgia, who's got a pluthorough receivers

1553
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 7: are all the time. It's kind of like playing at LSU.

1554
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 7: He's great, great hands, great roots, does not drop the ball.

1555
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 7: That is huge to me. Not dropping the ball and

1556
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 7: running Chris bruts coming out of college. Would he be

1557
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 7: about the twenty eight? Would he be a reach at

1558
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 7: twenty eight? And he think that's somebody the Bills might

1559
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 7: target if they can't get one of those top guys

1560
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 7: out of him.

1561
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a reach at twenty eight. Some

1562
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: people might feel differently. I know Steve likes what he

1563
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: offers in terms of separation. This guy on outbreaking routes.

1564
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: I can't remember a time where he's not open. And

1565
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 2: I watched a lot of Georgia games because my son

1566
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 2: goes to school there. I mean I watched a ton

1567
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: of these games. And this is a guy that's in

1568
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 2: an offense with Brock Bowers, and it was him and

1569
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: Bowers they were the vast majority of the offensive production.

1570
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 2: You have Rosamie jack Saint also, who's probably going to

1571
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 2: be a Day three pick receiver in this draft. Nice

1572
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 2: player that's got some development to make, but I think

1573
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: can be a contributor in this league as a two

1574
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 2: or three down the line. Here's the only thing that

1575
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,520
Speaker 2: I think is working against Lad McConkie as a potential

1576
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 2: Bills player. I think the one thing he cannot give

1577
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 2: the Bills his size, and they need size in their

1578
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 2: receiving court. They have Mac Collins, that's great, but for

1579
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 2: a guy that's going to be on the field for

1580
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 2: sixty sixty five plays a week, I think they want

1581
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: somebody a little bit bigger than five foot eleven.

1582
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,480
Speaker 3: That's not to say they wouldn't.

1583
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: Take him, but in an ideal world, I think they

1584
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 2: want more size at the position.

1585
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like they don't have more size in

1586
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: the building already. But yeah, and I'll say it again, Yeah,

1587
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: McConkie at twenty eight maybe a reach by what maybe

1588
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: a half around? I don't know. I think he's going

1589
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: I think he might. I think he's going to go

1590
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: a little before. I think he's the top part of

1591
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: the second round at least. Oh so you think a

1592
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 1: little later, Yeah, just maybe ten picks later, but not

1593
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: not many. I don't I wouldn't mind taking him at

1594
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: twenty eight. I think behind Ady Mitchell, Brian Thomas Junior,

1595
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: he's there. And I don't think you and I think

1596
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: sometimes gms want like plausible plausible rationality, like if you

1597
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 1: take it, got lad McConkie at twenty eight, people are like, Okay,

1598
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 1: that's the guy. I get it. Okay, you know you're

1599
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: not going to be like, oh you you know you

1600
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: took who you took cold strange you know that kind

1601
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: of thing. Uh No, McConkie would fit at twenty eight,

1602
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: no question.

1603
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 3: And you are right.

1604
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 2: He checks absolutely all the boxes in terms of Bill's

1605
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 2: DNA type player. I mean, this guy is aces off

1606
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 2: the field, absolute aces.

1607
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 3: Just I'll tell you a quick story.

1608
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: So it's right around Christmas time and there is a

1609
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 2: kid from you know, a less fortunate fan you know,

1610
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: not gonna have like twenty five gifts under the tree

1611
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 2: for Christmas, and he's a huge Ladd mcconkee fan. Ladd

1612
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 2: McConkie finds out that this kid lives two blocks away

1613
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: from where he lives off campus housing, and just of

1614
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: his own volition, goes to the kid's house, gives him

1615
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 2: a sign jersey on Christmas Day, like on Christmas Day,

1616
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 2: drives over there in his own car, gets a jersey,

1617
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: signs it and gives it to the kid. Like that's

1618
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: just the kind of kid that Ladd McConkey is just

1619
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 2: aces off the field.

1620
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he's Bill's DNA through and through.

1621
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 2: I think he would absolutely I'm not saying he's not

1622
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: a consideration for them, but I think he'd be even

1623
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: a bigger one if he was six foot two. I

1624
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't write him off, though, I wouldn't write him off

1625
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 2: as an option for the bills.

1626
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 3: I certainly would not do that. Let's go to Joe

1627
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 3: in West senecon X.

1628
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 8: What's up, Joe, Hey, Brownie, Steve, thanks for taking my call.

1629
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 8: Steve your Hall of Famer. Everybody knows it. I just

1630
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 8: want to say, I think there is a plan B

1631
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 8: and I think they'll tradeing down, but I'm not necessarily

1632
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 8: sure it's going to be for a wide receiver. It

1633
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 8: may be for a defensive person. And Steve, I agree

1634
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 8: with you about there's big concerns on defensive part of the ball.

1635
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 8: But we have Milano, Terrell Bernard did not play in

1636
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 8: those last games. You know von Miller. If people think

1637
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 8: Von Miller is going to come back out of shape,

1638
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 8: I think they're wrong. I think he's going to have

1639
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 8: a major impact this year and I think replacing Leonard

1640
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 8: Floyd is going to be his role last year. You

1641
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 8: guys have a show after the Jets game, and I said,

1642
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 8: everybody needs to relax. Felton Kakad, James Cook, and Leonard

1643
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 8: Floyd were very good in that game. Look at what

1644
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 8: Cook and Kincaid did. They are one of the better

1645
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 8: running backs and better tight ends in the league. We

1646
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 8: are going to be fine. People need to stop bashing Diggs.

1647
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 8: There will be a plan B. And I just want

1648
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 8: to say, Steve, I'm going to a family party Sunday.

1649
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 8: What would Kenneth Davis stuh in this league. Now, he

1650
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 8: was one of my favorite bilds. I'll never forget that

1651
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 8: play in the Houston game, in the comeback game. I

1652
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 8: think he would destroy the NFL right now, A great

1653
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 8: show and thanks you take him by callers.

1654
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 3: Weighing on that. You're Kenny Davis, k Kenny Davis, today's game.

1655
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: Kenny Davis could play in any era. You are correct,

1656
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: and what a great duty is.

1657
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: His only problem was he was playing behind the Hall

1658
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: of Fame is his only.

1659
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: Problem he signed. You're playing behind therm uh, it's hard

1660
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: to get on the field. But yeah, he was a

1661
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: great red zone runner, which is big for running backs

1662
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 1: these days.

1663
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,520
Speaker 3: He was even pretty good in shoe.

1664
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: He's very good. And he was a very good player

1665
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: and had breakaway speed too, so he was Yes, Kenny

1666
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: Davis could play in any era, and I'm glad you

1667
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 1: brought him up. He's a he's a good guy where

1668
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: he deserves to be remembered by Bills fans.

1669
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 3: Let's go to Steven Syracuse next. What's up, Steve.

1670
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 9: Chris. I like your scenario. We talked about earlier about

1671
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 9: what being did to get Diggs back from what was

1672
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 9: in Minnesota four years ago. He didn't hesitate. He gave

1673
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 9: a future number one pick, number one pick, future number

1674
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 9: one pick, and he got his man and then he

1675
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 9: was successful then and I can see him doing the

1676
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 9: same thing now. Yeah, number one, future number one pick

1677
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 9: for to San Francisco, get Auk or Higgins from Cincinnati.

1678
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 9: That's that's the little bit you go. And he's still

1679
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 9: maintained all your picks this year, even next year's number two.

1680
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 9: You still got your You're still loaded to get in

1681
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 9: at the draft and get your your defensive You got

1682
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 9: to get your red edge. Less you're out of it,

1683
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 9: you're still going to get another wide receiver. And I strongly,

1684
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 9: I strongly feel that mcacky's the kid. So I did

1685
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 9: some scouting years ago, as this kid is all ballplayer,

1686
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 9: he's got a heart, he's intelligent. So he might be

1687
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 9: a little smaller than a big guy, but I'll tell

1688
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 9: you once he's not going to drop the ball like

1689
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 9: somebody these big guys do. Yeah, a good guy and

1690
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 9: he can and he's fast, all right. Steve on the

1691
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 9: second seven, well at second scenario later to Gaft, you

1692
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 9: get poked, bulk, get him. You got two guys, don't

1693
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 9: under draft pick it end up be better than the

1694
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 9: top ten.

1695
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll have to see, but yeah, no, that's a

1696
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 3: valid point.

1697
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 2: And I think it speaks to the depth of the

1698
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: you know, the quality of the receiver position in this

1699
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 2: year's class. You can get some pretty quality contributors as

1700
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: late as round three. Maybe not a number one wide receiver,

1701
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: but yes, And just to be fair about the scenario

1702
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 2: I brought up earlier when being traded for Stefan Diggs

1703
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty and gave up a first round pick,

1704
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 2: he also gave up a four, to five and a six. Now,

1705
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 2: if you can get san Fran on the horn and

1706
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 2: they're willing to move I you you also have the

1707
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 2: fly in the ointment of signing him to an extension

1708
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 2: to fit him under your cap. So that's that's the

1709
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: other thing here. But here, here's what you could do.

1710
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: You give them twenty eight and you got extra fours, fives,

1711
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: and six is just wash rents repeat, get another twenty

1712
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: six year old in here. That's a proven commodity in

1713
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1714
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: And what you could do as well, if if you

1715
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: wanted to take this kind of risk, say listen, we'll

1716
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, you trade for somebody, trade for somebody, and

1717
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: they got one year or maybe a two years left

1718
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: on their deal, whoever that may be. And you say, listen, well,

1719
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 1: when we get Steph Dig's money off the cap next

1720
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: year and we get the cap goes up again, we're

1721
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: gonna have all kinds of space. We'll sign you to

1722
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: a deal next year as soon as we can, and

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01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: we'll guarantee some of it so you can fit them

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01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: under the cap that way, if they can, just you

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01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: can get them to play this year for what they

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01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: are for their money they have now, so a lower number,

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01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: but we'll see or maybe sign them to extension that

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01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:57,759
Speaker 1: doesn't kick in for another twenty four months.

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Speaker 3: That's the more likely thing. I would think.

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01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,839
Speaker 2: You sign him in a contract that puts an minimum

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01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: base this year and then option puts a.

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01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: Very specific window and a very specific set of circumstances

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01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: that you can make all that stuff happen. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of things have to come together. It's not easy

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Speaker 1: to do.

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01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 3: No, it's not. But he's done it before. It's all

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say. You can't tell me. I can't hope Steve.

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Speaker 1: My Way's better give him this year twenty eight Give

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01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: twenty given it's higher risk. And then and then in

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Speaker 1: terms of what you're putting on the field yet not

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01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: the higher you get, the closer you get to the

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01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: top of the draft, the less risk there is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you could do, you could do for comparable compensation,

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01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,799
Speaker 2: the same deal with a proven veteran commodity in the league.

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01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: Yes, but you'll never have that proven commodity. Is what

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01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: it is. This one could and it will cost you more.

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01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: This one will be better better? How do you be better?

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01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: Could be better? Could be better?

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Speaker 3: Could is much different than will.

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01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: Probably I picked it is probably gonna be better.

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01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: All Right, We got to take a break. We'll try

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Speaker 2: to get to a couple more calls before we're done today.

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Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by to a Lot

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Speaker 2: of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, just one

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Speaker 2: segment to go here on a Thursday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we'll

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Speaker 2: take one more call here Sean in Olean, what's up, Sean?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys?

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Speaker 7: How you doing good?

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01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 9: Uh?

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01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 15: I think this plan was starting to come together last season?

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01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 15: You know, we we we gave Dawson Ox the extension.

1763
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 15: Then We drafted Jalan Kkad in the first round, arguably

1764
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 15: the best best pass catcher in the entire draft. So

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01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 15: I don't want them to do anything crazy this year.

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01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 15: I think if we made a trade for a guy

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01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 15: like ayuk or Higgins, then we got a pay him.

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01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 15: We drafted receiver in the first round, we got him

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Speaker 15: feat for five years. So that's all I gotta say.

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Speaker 15: I'll hang up le talk thinks.

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Speaker 3: Sure things, Jean.

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Speaker 2: That's the balance. That's the balance you got to strike.

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01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: You know, do you want cost control for five years

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01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: with a first round pick receiver or do you want

1775
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 2: a sure thing and pay the money that you just

1776
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: pushed out the door by moving digs off your roster.

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01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 2: It's an interesting question. I mean, you heard being say

1778
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 2: it yesterday. Wants to be as he's as competitive as hell.

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01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 2: He's not giving up, he's not given in. Does that

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01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 2: mean he goes and gets a proven veteran.

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01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 3: Receiver to replace it.

1782
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:38,600
Speaker 1: Who's gonna talk him off the ledge from go I

1783
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: give you five ones and a two. He's not doing that.

1784
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: He didn't even give up a future one for Josh

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01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 2: or Tremaine.

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01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 3: All right, be interesting to see what he goes.

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01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Saying that it may happen, it might.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow at one