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Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica
Speaker 2: and I'm Meila. Happy Wednesday by Happy hump Day. How
Speaker 2: are you, my love? I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good?
Speaker 2: My hair is pink, guys, dyed my hair paint because
Speaker 2: I'm going through a thirty life crisis. To me thirty
Speaker 2: four years to do this finally, did it. I've always
Speaker 2: wanted to do it, even back when I loved Chalise,
Speaker 2: I wanted to do this. Yeah, it's giving me. My
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Speaker 1: So and I have long hair, so you should come
Speaker 1: see We've had We've done the hair switch ups.
Speaker 2: We're doing the hair switch up? Or is this a
Speaker 2: thirty life crisis. I'm just kidding. Okay, you know it's.
Speaker 1: Just BlackGirl magic.
Speaker 2: I could change that. How are you? I'm doing good.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: A lot is happening this week, and I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to stay grounded and grateful and all of the things.
Speaker 2: But I'm good. So you guys, you know it's June,
Speaker 2: and all June, we have been highlighting the Zaddy.
Speaker 1: We've blessed you this month with all the Zaddies, all
Speaker 1: the fun zaddies we could find, hi love. We personally
Speaker 1: sourced every single Zaddy in our friends circle and beyond
Speaker 1: to bring you a blessed June.
Speaker 2: Various ages, various people from all different walks of life.
Speaker 2: We wanted to really highlight dads because.
Speaker 1: And just the male perspective, because you know, we gotta
Speaker 1: we have that little bit of balance over here, you.
Speaker 2: Do, because we are just going in with the divine, and.
Speaker 1: You know, the divine feminine really really requires the welcoming
Speaker 1: and the opening for the divine masculine. It's very necessary.
Speaker 1: We all have to hold space for each other.
Speaker 2: Amen. So anyway, I'm happy to introduce Jared.
Speaker 1: You guys doing.
Speaker 2: He is the host of Enjoy the podcast. Yes I am,
Speaker 2: and he is also our girl, sham Boudrum's baby daddy,
Speaker 2: husband almost father of two.
Speaker 3: Congratulations, your hair matches the light. That's the part of
Speaker 3: the pink, you know. And my office is pink and green.
Speaker 3: So oh it's like AKA colors. Yeah, we're all we're
Speaker 3: all in lineming here, Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah. I think I was like, do I need
Speaker 2: to start wearing pink? I was like, this kind of
Speaker 2: goes with everything it does. It's neutral. I had purple
Speaker 2: last week and I hated it. So originally started with
Speaker 2: purple and then I said no.
Speaker 1: The pink is definitely your legs. Purple was not it,
Speaker 1: but this is it.
Speaker 2: It was looking kind of gray.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was like, is this gray?
Speaker 1: I don't I see like a little bit of the
Speaker 1: purple still, like underneath a little bit. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of giving ombree vibes.
Speaker 2: Really, Oh my god. Okay, then I really am living
Speaker 2: out my Collie dreams because she had a specific photo
Speaker 2: like a.
Speaker 1: Little orange and I see that like and she had
Speaker 1: a little orange in it too.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Kalise. Can we get Kalise on the show?
Speaker 2: Someone who knows Kalise? Can you call her? Actually?
Speaker 1: Last time, every time we asked for someone, someone's like,
Speaker 1: oh I do know that person.
Speaker 2: So yeah, color my god, I.
Speaker 3: Hate you so much right now. I remember being you
Speaker 3: consider that I love song.
Speaker 2: I fucking loved that song. I considered a love song,
Speaker 2: like you know, it was like a scorpio love song.
Speaker 2: And also, uh, I just want to below with you.
Speaker 2: Try me because I'll be the one that makes you happy.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that video was yeah when she was that was
Speaker 1: the video. That's what I really remember.
Speaker 2: It was all dirt. I don't want to know. Okay,
Speaker 2: please someone find Kalise so we can sing it. Do
Speaker 2: you go to her farm?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that'd be great. It's done already, did,
Speaker 1: It's done?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Ared here, I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 1: It's a show. It's a free show. I think those
Speaker 1: songs might have been a little bit before your time outkay.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Kalise was a moment in time, So even if it
Speaker 3: happened before me, it's going to bleed over.
Speaker 2: That's true. You got to go back to that every
Speaker 2: time because.
Speaker 1: You're hell are you?
Speaker 3: I'm thirty years old?
Speaker 2: When's your birthday?
Speaker 3: October seventh?
Speaker 2: Oh my October baby?
Speaker 3: Is that good?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm an October baby?
Speaker 3: Okay? Sweet? So what Libra? And I am a Libra
Speaker 3: the twenty fifth? I'm a scorpio, your scorpio. I'm a
Speaker 3: cancer cancer. I'm asking. I know what they mean.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: You've never dated a bitch that told you all about
Speaker 2: the sign.
Speaker 1: Not even everybody.
Speaker 3: It'll be online people, people will be you know, Oh,
Speaker 3: you're a Libra. That means that you're this, You're that.
Speaker 2: Into the stars and the moons. No oh, I feel
Speaker 2: like I feel like she'd be.
Speaker 3: Like, this is I'm not either.
Speaker 2: It actually makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see her.
Speaker 2: She's a realist.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I read a book about it and
Speaker 1: don't it doesn't matter. No, she she doesn't.
Speaker 3: She doesn't rock with it. I don't rock with it,
Speaker 3: but I respect it because the way I look at
Speaker 3: it is like, if the moon can create tides, it
Speaker 3: probably does something to us. But does that mean that
Speaker 3: I'm an asshole or I'm like balanced, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think an asshole is generally like a standard
Speaker 2: description of a sign. I think people will make other assholes.
Speaker 3: Every time that someone guesses my son or ask me
Speaker 3: my sign is and I tell them libra, they always go, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, honestly, my baby, my baby, that is his birthday
Speaker 1: right before yours. You see, that's that's PSD.
Speaker 2: I know some really great male libras, like they're all
Speaker 2: you guys are you guys are kind of can navigate
Speaker 2: at least I'm not going to read you. But this
Speaker 2: is my experience with libras is that you guys navigate
Speaker 2: alone really well, Like you can go out to the
Speaker 2: movies by yourself, Like you can totally just like do
Speaker 2: your own thing. You're fucking cool to just do that.
Speaker 2: I feel like, uh, you guys are a little weird,
Speaker 2: not weird, this could be any time. Like they're just odd.
Speaker 2: There's some like oddities they're into, like some odd things
Speaker 2: like I'm sure you.
Speaker 1: Don't know you like your other stuff like your moon
Speaker 1: and your.
Speaker 3: Well, actually I was born on the eclipse and so
Speaker 3: a libra libra. Yeah, so we had I had someone
Speaker 3: read us our whole cast, and you know, they were
Speaker 3: they were going in and talking all their ship about me,
Speaker 3: and they say, uh, I couldn't understand it.
Speaker 1: So I was telling them.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know what you're saying right now,
Speaker 3: because you're telling me all these things and your house
Speaker 3: is here and this is that, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I can't understand it. So I can't do anything with
Speaker 3: the information that you're getting me.
Speaker 2: They weren't explaining it. Well, you have to go to
Speaker 2: someone that really knows how to break it down. Well,
Speaker 2: because I agree because I've read the charts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what the fuck? What does this mean?
Speaker 2: My seventh house is where? And why does this matter?
Speaker 2: But we got a reading in Costa Rica. Shout out
Speaker 2: to Sylvia and Cestra. She's actually going to be on
Speaker 2: our retreat in Costa Rica natal chart readings, and she
Speaker 2: was the first woman that really was able to break
Speaker 2: down things for me in clear fashion, like this means
Speaker 2: this is like this is your wound, this is like
Speaker 2: what you're working through in this lifetime. And like I
Speaker 2: think that was like my north node and like the
Speaker 2: seventh House represents like emotions or this how you know
Speaker 2: what I mean and broke it down in simpler terms.
Speaker 2: It's like astrology for dummies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I need right there. I need or
Speaker 3: just tell me, just say, hey, watch out for this.
Speaker 2: Well, how do you think you are?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Who do you like? How would you define yourself?
Speaker 3: I would say that I'm emotional but creative. Also, I think.
Speaker 2: You're like emotional. On what we're like sensitive or I.
Speaker 3: Don't think I'm sensitive, but I feel a lot I have.
Speaker 3: I can describe what I'm feeling. I have like a
Speaker 3: really good conflict resolution, you know when disagreements happened. I'm
Speaker 3: easy to work with. But I also feel that I
Speaker 3: also have like a like an X factor about me
Speaker 3: because it's like there will be something that somebody does
Speaker 3: that would just turn me off from them, but it
Speaker 3: could flip. So, yeah, well, like I'm nice and easy going,
Speaker 3: I'm easy to work with, but then there's also a
Speaker 3: part of me that's like a workhorse that will like,
Speaker 3: if you're not showing up at the same level, I'll
Speaker 3: probably like you'll see a different side of me, you know.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to answer. That's a heavy question.
Speaker 3: How would you describe yourself?
Speaker 2: Are you asking me? Yeah, I would say that I
Speaker 2: am hard working. I would say that I can be intense,
Speaker 2: but I can also be very like airy, like I'm down,
Speaker 2: I'm down for the adventure for me, Like I'm a realist, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: does this make sense? Yeah, Like, sometimes it doesn't always
Speaker 2: have to make sense, but generally I like things to
Speaker 2: make sense. Yeah. I think that I am very intuitive
Speaker 2: and because of that, like my energy can shift a
Speaker 2: lot constantly, So sometimes people find it hard to read me.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm like really open, and sometimes I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, is that in line with a scorpio? Yeah, I've
Speaker 3: dated too scorpios before, shan one of them destroyed me,
Speaker 3: one of them destroyed me.
Speaker 2: Forget please forgive me? Do you know what? Though, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know this woman, and I don't know where
Speaker 2: she was at the time. An unhealed scorpio, and granted
Speaker 2: we're not all healed, but like the ones that are
Speaker 2: really toxic, we have fucking nuts. Yeah, we are not
Speaker 2: good people at all.
Speaker 1: You hear that it's your fault.
Speaker 2: Yeah, girl, I'm telling you it's it's true. Like we
Speaker 2: can really be dark. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the second one was was great. She was like
Speaker 3: the total opposite and I destroyed her. I wouldn't say
Speaker 3: it was. It wasn't calculated, but she was the person
Speaker 3: that did it after, so it could have been.
Speaker 2: It was passive aggressive, it was sub conscious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it wasn't. It wasn't premeditative, but yeah, it
Speaker 3: was bad.
Speaker 2: You know, my other Libra male friend, he's really good
Speaker 2: at the cutoff game actually that I'm thinking about it,
Speaker 2: Like when he's really he's emotional too, actually, but then
Speaker 2: when he's done, he's like, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 3: It's like it's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. My mom's a Libra, but I think
Speaker 2: men and women are different.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe what Shan is a aries.
Speaker 1: It makes sense very fire and air my m Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: will astrology's choices astrology we always ask all of our
Speaker 1: guests to come with an affirmation. So, Jered, did you
Speaker 1: bring an affirmation for us today?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't know if it's an affirmation.
Speaker 3: Actually I never actually given myself an affirmation. But what
Speaker 3: I will say is that I do live by the
Speaker 3: saying that I want to be synonymous with enjoy and
Speaker 3: and know it sounds weird, but that what I mean
Speaker 3: by that is that when you think of joy, when
Speaker 3: you think of enjoying anything, I hope that I'm creeping
Speaker 3: up in the back of your head when you think
Speaker 3: of that word, you're like, Jared enjoys life. Jared is
Speaker 3: enjoy you know. So I don't know if that's an affirmation.
Speaker 2: I want to benonymous with enjoy. I really like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Yeah, like yeah, she's enjoy Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know. I want you have the picture in your
Speaker 3: mind when you think of me, of me smiling.
Speaker 1: It's like being synonymous with pleasure, you know, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's a pleasurable experience to be around that person.
Speaker 1: They're always like pleasurable, theresure synonymous with pleasure. I want
Speaker 1: to be synonymous with pleasure like that. I want to
Speaker 1: be just always finding the pleasure and all the things.
Speaker 1: And however, I'm moving through the world because there's just
Speaker 1: so there's so much pleasure. Handle smells good, this sage
Speaker 1: hanging with friends, drinking wine, taste good, laughing.
Speaker 2: We had a good laugh earlier. Got good. Do you
Speaker 2: feel like Because I now that you say that, I'm
Speaker 2: taking note to all your brands and they always kind
Speaker 2: of have that peace in it. The joy part is,
Speaker 2: is that something that you've always found easy to access?
Speaker 1: No, So I.
Speaker 3: Came up with that, I guess affirmation when I did
Speaker 3: a bag of mushrooms and I ate a bunch of
Speaker 3: mushrooms and I was just chilling in my apartment and
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about the word enjoy and my
Speaker 3: life was shit like it was like terrible, poor broke,
Speaker 3: you know, no, nothing going good in my life. And
Speaker 3: something in my head kept telling me, you got to
Speaker 3: enjoy this shitty time, like you have to enjoy this.
Speaker 3: You have to enjoy this so that you can enjoy
Speaker 3: when it's great. And it just made that word mean
Speaker 3: so much to me because I used to think of
Speaker 3: enjoy of like I'm only gonna feel enjoy when it
Speaker 3: hits me. When I'm like, man, that was a good
Speaker 3: that was a good experience. But now I'm like constantly
Speaker 3: looking for the ways, like what do I enjoy? Or
Speaker 3: if there's something in my life that I don't enjoy,
Speaker 3: how do I get rid of it? You know? And
Speaker 3: so from that point on, if I ever get into
Speaker 3: a space where I'm like, I don't like what's happening
Speaker 3: in my life, I'll write down a list of everything
Speaker 3: that I like and what is stealing that joy from me,
Speaker 3: and then I'll go through that list and be like,
Speaker 3: what can I what is in my control to get
Speaker 3: rid of. So if it's like a lot of people
Speaker 3: don't like this, but if it's like, man, I don't
Speaker 3: really like the way I look in the mirror, like
Speaker 3: I need to start working out and that thing can
Speaker 3: start to get off my list, or you know what,
Speaker 3: I don't like the way that this part of my
Speaker 3: creative process is going. Okay, let me change the steps here,
Speaker 3: let me cross that out my list, and then just
Speaker 3: kind of get and start eliminating anything that's stealing the
Speaker 3: joy from me. And that's that's kind of like where
Speaker 3: it came from. And I don't think I would have
Speaker 3: thought that if I wasn't.
Speaker 2: High Wow, that it all makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it sounds like a.
Speaker 1: Good system to eradicate the bullshit all the things that
Speaker 1: don't bring your joy.
Speaker 2: You know what, you have to be ready to face
Speaker 2: that some of those things are like things you want
Speaker 2: to change and you.
Speaker 3: Can't keep, or the ones that you can't control, so
Speaker 3: you have to like acknowledge like, Okay, there's certain things
Speaker 3: like I don't like that I can't buy this car.
Speaker 3: You're like, you can't control that completely, but you can
Speaker 3: and you can make steps to like get to that space.
Speaker 3: Or I don't like the way that my relationship is
Speaker 3: with my mom, and it's like sometimes that's just the
Speaker 3: relationship and you're either gonna have to find the good
Speaker 3: things in it or or let it go. But as
Speaker 3: long as you start to get on that list and
Speaker 3: being like, there's there's things on here that I do
Speaker 3: have control over, and if you start to control those things,
Speaker 3: then you're like, Okay, now life is getting a little better.
Speaker 2: You know, that relationship with your mom that you don't like,
Speaker 2: you don't enjoy some of the what are the things
Speaker 2: that you actually do enjoy and how do you cultivate
Speaker 2: that and only allow those parts.
Speaker 3: Into your the way your interaction with her is now,
Speaker 3: It's like I love when we when we talk about food.
Speaker 1: Let's just let's stay there, let's.
Speaker 3: Just say let's do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you know someone's trying to beer the
Speaker 1: conversation and argue or some shit, I'm not talking to
Speaker 1: you about that.
Speaker 3: That's true exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you for sure. I recently I took a kind
Speaker 2: of a break from them because I was kind of
Speaker 2: avoiding mushrooms for a while. I don't know why. I
Speaker 2: was like I felt like I was I was going
Speaker 2: to face something I didn't want to face, or something
Speaker 2: that's part of it, right, And it was like I
Speaker 2: didn't know what it was, but I just kept avoiding it,
Speaker 2: you know. And I was like, oh, you know. And
Speaker 2: then actually the other night we went out and we
Speaker 2: went to our girl's birthday and she was passing out
Speaker 2: mushrooms after dinner, and like I knew it was coming
Speaker 2: because she basically like was like, we're going to get
Speaker 2: the mushroom debt and I was like, and then she
Speaker 2: passed it and I was like, okay, I'll take a
Speaker 2: little bit. It was barely any I swear to God,
Speaker 2: but I ate it and it was it was chocolate
Speaker 2: and usually.
Speaker 3: Oh, I had those like chocolate bar thing and they
Speaker 3: have like little squares.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like.
Speaker 2: I've had chocolate before and generally I actually like chocolate
Speaker 2: because I feel like it really helps mask the taste.
Speaker 2: But this ship tasted so fucking nasty, like I ate
Speaker 2: it and I was like, oh no, it tasted like
Speaker 2: barf that it was really bad. But it was bad.
Speaker 2: It tasted bad. Then I should have known that it
Speaker 2: was really strong. It tastes so bad because I really
Speaker 2: didn't take a lot and then and I had eaten
Speaker 2: like dinner, and then we went outside and I was like, oh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: and then I was like I'm still not going to
Speaker 2: get jigging.
Speaker 1: I'm going home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I went home.
Speaker 2: And then I like got in the car and I
Speaker 2: was like, I started crying, and I was like, why
Speaker 2: am I crying? I was like, this is I've been avoiding.
Speaker 2: And I was like I need to just face the
Speaker 2: mushrooms and face the music, and you face the mushrooms.
Speaker 2: And so I recently decided that I'm going to start
Speaker 2: microdosing because I was for a while, especially during COVID
Speaker 2: and it helped me so much. Yeah, just to kind
Speaker 2: of ease my anxiety, a help me be more present
Speaker 2: because I struggle with being present always kind of.
Speaker 3: Like, well, you got a business, you got the podcast,
Speaker 3: you probably got you know, you got a full kid.
Speaker 3: You know, you got a lot on your plate. So
Speaker 3: it's hard to be in the moment with yourself when
Speaker 3: you're your entire world is thinking about how do I
Speaker 3: give to these things? Right, It's something I've battle with,
Speaker 3: you know, doing all the things that we're trying to do,
Speaker 3: and then while having a kid, it's like you're giving
Speaker 3: everything to that kid and then you don't have anything
Speaker 3: to give to yourself, and then you're getting lost in
Speaker 3: that shuffle. So I can relate to that and like
Speaker 3: something that I've been you know, talking to Shan with
Speaker 3: like I don't want to get be that couple that
Speaker 3: takes the love that started this whole thing and then
Speaker 3: created this child and give it to the child. I
Speaker 3: want to give it to the child, but pour everything
Speaker 3: into the child, and now we have no love for ourselves.
Speaker 3: They're no time for ourselves. And then you know, you
Speaker 3: see all these people who once the kid gets older
Speaker 3: and moves out, and does their own life.
Speaker 1: They don't even know each other anymore. We're like, who
Speaker 1: are we right? What are we even here for?
Speaker 3: Now that now the kid's going, I don't know why
Speaker 3: we're even still together. It's because they gave all their
Speaker 3: love to the kid.
Speaker 2: Well that's what we're supposed to do, like give it all.
Speaker 1: And if you don't, like you're selfish and you're weird,
Speaker 1: like God forbid, you go like take time for yourself,
Speaker 1: like I'm doing some shit, you know, like I need this.
Speaker 2: I mean, you actually love your kid more when you
Speaker 2: do that too. So right, people always always like I've
Speaker 2: had people judge me and say it is your kid,
Speaker 2: your kid is number one, Like you know, you preach,
Speaker 2: can you preach all this ship and da dah dah
Speaker 2: da da. But like I'm like, yeah, yeah, she's not
Speaker 2: number one. No, I love her and she is. She
Speaker 2: has changed my trajectory. I've I've you know, she's my
Speaker 2: best friend. However, I'm no good to her if I'm
Speaker 2: not number one mutually and if my relationship or you know,
Speaker 2: especially your marriage. I mean I don't know anything about marriage.
Speaker 3: Ain't different. It ain't different. That's the thing too. People
Speaker 3: got all confused. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Anything about I guess coupled partnership and raising a human
Speaker 2: because that's not my experience.
Speaker 1: You don't get a break. Yeah, you're with you are
Speaker 1: all together as a unit majority at the time when
Speaker 1: we're in a place like we've done that, but it's
Speaker 1: so far gone now, like we do get to drop
Speaker 1: them off where you don't really get to have a
Speaker 1: weekend and it's normal, like where the fuck.
Speaker 3: Are you.
Speaker 1: Exactly, whereas we have the opportunity to have the tapic
Speaker 1: like oh, okay, oh this is me, this is what Oh,
Speaker 1: this is what I do on my days off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what actually are some ways in which I think
Speaker 2: I'm interested in the male perspective on this, Like what
Speaker 2: are some ways that you are you kind of make
Speaker 2: space in your relationship in that way?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all about intention Like we have to be
Speaker 3: super aggressive and intentional about scheduling time for us, and
Speaker 3: it's it gets to a place where you you got
Speaker 3: you get so caught up in life that you don't
Speaker 3: plan for yourselves and our situation. That's like getting a
Speaker 3: babysitter on Thursday so that we can go out and
Speaker 3: actually be together and not think about the child that
Speaker 3: time right, or being intentional about that. It's it's I
Speaker 3: usually say, you know, fighting back at life right because
Speaker 3: life is trying to make you it's bitch, and be like, no,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna have time for yourself. You're not gonna
Speaker 3: have time for your wife, You're not gonna have time
Speaker 3: for anything other than what I tell you you're gonna
Speaker 3: have time for. And I used to fight back on
Speaker 3: that and be like, all right, we just put the
Speaker 3: kid to bed. I know we've been up since six.
Speaker 3: I know that we've been going all day working doing
Speaker 3: all these things and we're exhausted and the number one
Speaker 3: thing that we want to sleep, but fuck that. Let's
Speaker 3: stay up, Let's watch a movie, let's have some good sex,
Speaker 3: and then we go to sleep. And that's like a
Speaker 3: fight back on life because I'm like, I know I'm tired,
Speaker 3: but life thing't gonna make me a bitch.
Speaker 1: I'm tired. I'm gonna I don't forget this ship and
Speaker 1: the reason this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I love that.
Speaker 2: I feel that's really cool that that that you do that.
Speaker 2: I think that it's hard to sometimes it feels you
Speaker 2: really do have to fight because life will fucking make
Speaker 2: you so exhausted. Yeah, I mean maybe, I mean my
Speaker 2: relationship was gonna end regardless, but like there were moments
Speaker 2: thinking about that, like I really didn't fight that much.
Speaker 2: I was tired, and I was just like, and if
Speaker 2: you don't have another partner that's also fighting, yeah, it
Speaker 2: kind of makes it impossible or someone that's at least
Speaker 2: gonna like, okay today I'm fighting. Yeah, like I got
Speaker 2: this today. Okay, I got this, my baby, let's do this.
Speaker 2: You know. I think that, uh, that's probably the secret
Speaker 2: to marriage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's marriage is like I mean relationship, relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like relationships, especially when you have another
Speaker 3: life in the world, is all about if we're both
Speaker 3: thinking how do I make your life easier? If we're
Speaker 3: both thinking that our life is gonna be easy because
Speaker 3: we're both doing things for each other, that is gonna
Speaker 3: make the life easier for each other.
Speaker 1: So simple for that guys, And I think people sometimes
Speaker 1: think if you're making life easier for someone else, and
Speaker 1: either like there's self sacrificial in ways, like maybe you're
Speaker 1: not doing something for yourself, but if it's mutual, then
Speaker 1: everyone's making sure we get taking care of as a unit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you'll get that day. So like, well we'll
Speaker 3: have talks to be like what's your what's your ideal schedule?
Speaker 3: Looking like how much me time do you want? How
Speaker 3: much us time do you want? And how much do
Speaker 3: you want for like us as a family, And then
Speaker 3: like Jo ask me the same question and I'll tell
Speaker 3: her like this is my ideal schedule and this is
Speaker 3: your ideal schedule. How do we make these work so
Speaker 3: that we both get what we want? And in those
Speaker 3: schedules are me time because like it's I can't love
Speaker 3: you the right way if you don't give me space
Speaker 3: to be independent. Yeah, everything we do is together, and
Speaker 3: everything that you do is together with me, and it's
Speaker 3: like we're just one person and that's not fine. And
Speaker 3: I want to be with somebody that experiences life a
Speaker 3: little bit different than me. I want to be with
Speaker 3: someone that has their own experiences and independence. Like the
Speaker 3: last thing I want is to own a human.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: You're not my woman.
Speaker 3: You're a woman who loves me right, and I love you,
Speaker 3: and so like you always hear that term like oh
Speaker 3: my man, you're like I am because I choose, but like,
Speaker 3: I'm not your man, you know what I mean, We're
Speaker 3: both individual humans who are going through life together and
Speaker 3: we just love each other, right, you know.
Speaker 2: I think like you and Channe also, like you guys
Speaker 2: have began your relationship with that idea too. Write I
Speaker 2: remember watching a clip of you guys when you guys
Speaker 2: were talking, or maybe Shan was talking about I think
Speaker 2: it was right before you got married, and it was
Speaker 2: like one plus one does an equal to it equals three? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I loved that concept of that idea, and I
Speaker 2: never really like, I guess like imagine that in my
Speaker 2: head and I was like, oh my god, this makes
Speaker 2: total sense. Yeah, this becomes its whole new entity. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and like I am still singularly my own person. You
Speaker 2: and I don't die when you leave.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you and I the person that the
Speaker 3: version of myself that I am from being in a
Speaker 3: relationship with you would have never existed if we never
Speaker 3: got together. So like, you're not we're not making like
Speaker 3: we're not making one. It's just like a whole other entity.
Speaker 3: And I did like that concept and it felt natural.
Speaker 3: I mean, given the way that we started. We started
Speaker 3: by just being fuck buddies. So the entire intent was
Speaker 3: you are your own human, I'm my own human, and
Speaker 3: we're just the thing that connected us was sexual chemistry,
Speaker 3: you know, which was cool. It allowed us to approach
Speaker 3: the relationship with like one hundred percent honesty without fear
Speaker 3: of judgment because it was just kind of like, you're
Speaker 3: I am not trying to impress you. You know, when
Speaker 3: you meet someone that you're really in love with or
Speaker 3: you're like, oh man, I really want to be with
Speaker 3: this person, You're like propping up the best parts of
Speaker 3: yourself and like hiding the worst parts, and you're like
Speaker 3: trying to like how do I say everything correctly so
Speaker 3: that she thinks I'm interesting or all this stuff, and
Speaker 3: it's like, no, the thing that got you interested in
Speaker 3: with me is just great sex. That's not going anywhere
Speaker 3: whether you find anything about me that you don't like
Speaker 3: that we have great sex. And so the willingness to
Speaker 3: just put my entire self on top of that table
Speaker 3: and her doing the same thing allowed us to like
Speaker 3: grow a relationship of her knowing my authentic full self
Speaker 3: from the jump, which made our relationship just way better.
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm so tempted to give the people the
Speaker 3: advice to like start with, but it is so.
Speaker 1: Bad Starvest fuck buddies.
Speaker 3: It will be a success, You'll be like, but if
Speaker 3: it is hard, because I also know that there's there's
Speaker 3: an evil side to that, to that story.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I agree. I think like we talk
Speaker 1: about this, like not starting with the expectation of forever,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: most successful relationships are ones where you're like brutally honest,
Speaker 1: like that's what I did last night, you know, because
Speaker 1: you're right, they're inevitably like no matter how authentic you are,
Speaker 1: when you go on a date and thinking someone's super
Speaker 1: hot or they're impressive, you are ways are being performative.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna put all the ship on the table,
Speaker 1: like I mean, I don't really have a lot of
Speaker 1: space because all our ships on Instagram. But we kind
Speaker 1: of have to do that just so they are not
Speaker 1: scared later. But let me show you some ship. But
Speaker 1: I think people do that and they get into this routine.
Speaker 1: You know, you like someone, you get all giddy for
Speaker 1: each other, you spend all your time together because that's
Speaker 1: what's fun in the beginning. But then they forget to
Speaker 1: come up out of that like that warp and then
Speaker 1: do their own thing. And so when someone starts to
Speaker 1: do things outside of you, you're.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, where are you going? Which, oh, I'm not
Speaker 2: invited yeh.
Speaker 1: But like last week I went to the game like
Speaker 1: with the way like some ship like and then all
Speaker 1: these like human you know, emotions come up that are
Speaker 1: not really healthy because you've gotten so caught up in
Speaker 1: this ritual of always being together and yeah, like and
Speaker 1: it's ways performing and it is it's harder to like
Speaker 1: start to like someone and being like kind of attracted
Speaker 1: in love and have good sex and then be like okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me just tell you, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, it's it's much easier to be like
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, like this is what it is.
Speaker 1: You're having sex? You don't really, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not playing for you to keep me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think a lot of women especially have
Speaker 1: to do that, like.
Speaker 3: Well men do it too, But you know what, I
Speaker 3: can't you know what this is.
Speaker 2: This is a bad message, Jared. I know I don't
Speaker 2: agree with this. That's first I want to say that
Speaker 2: I think that dick good dick and good pussy, mostly
Speaker 2: good dick. I think as women were just we're just
Speaker 2: controlled by this our vaginas in ways.
Speaker 1: I know you are, for.
Speaker 2: Sure, but I know I feel like we get lost
Speaker 2: in the sauce a little faster though, And so like
Speaker 2: if you if you're, if you're fuck buddies and it's
Speaker 2: purely based on sex. I think women have a way
Speaker 2: of compartmentalizing. But over time, we're gonna start do I
Speaker 2: love you?
Speaker 3: Well? Why do you think that is so? So like
Speaker 3: if we unpack it a little bit and we dive
Speaker 3: a little bit deeper, like I agreed.
Speaker 2: And accept certain toxicities, and reality is about that person
Speaker 2: that they don't really shouldn't they shouldn't accept.
Speaker 3: True, But like if you dive, if you keep going
Speaker 3: underneath that, it's like, yes, there is stories of people,
Speaker 3: you know, getting into fuck buddy relationships and then it
Speaker 3: ending terribly right, But did they come into that in
Speaker 3: the start thinking I actually am very interested in this guy,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to accept being a fuck buddy because
Speaker 3: that's what he says he wants so that I can
Speaker 3: give him this good pussy so that he eventually and
Speaker 3: then on top of that, get hurt. Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: you get hurt. But on top of that, it's also like,
Speaker 3: you know, I always have this thing of like the
Speaker 3: times that I've been in toxic relationships and the times
Speaker 3: that I've gotten into very bad situation is because I
Speaker 3: was not completely healed in myself. Like there's times even
Speaker 3: like recent like you know, there'll be like a vibe
Speaker 3: between a woman and like there's something that I'll feel
Speaker 3: or I'll see a red flag that I'll be like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go
Speaker 3: into this. Yeah, I'm not even gonna entertain this because
Speaker 3: I have like a certain level of of I guess
Speaker 3: healing that I'm not like subjecting myself to certain things
Speaker 3: that I know might end terribly. And so I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that that there's not obviously very manipultive dudes out there,
Speaker 3: But if a dude comes and you guys are connecting
Speaker 3: and he's just like this is what I am willing
Speaker 3: to give is just X At certain point, is there
Speaker 3: like accountability on the woman's side to be like I
Speaker 3: don't really I'm not even allowing that. I don't want that.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you have to be mature and have to
Speaker 1: say I want this and you don't want that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because a lot of times we find secretly they're like okay,
Speaker 1: and then they're getting hurt and like low key abused
Speaker 1: because they're saying they can handle something. However, on the
Speaker 1: on the opposite end, what I will say is, for sure,
Speaker 1: bitches do that, like I'm aa cook, I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wash his clothes and then he's gonna fall
Speaker 1: in love with me, and then Nick's Joe and they're mad.
Speaker 1: But on the flip side, a guy will say, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be your man.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just doing a boyfriend activity hunt all
Speaker 4: day every day, doing all the things, showing pulling up
Speaker 4: at the house every day, eating dinner with the family,
Speaker 4: you know, like gifts for the kids, buying kids for
Speaker 4: the kids.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, like there is well he's doing boyfriend activity.
Speaker 1: He's not.
Speaker 3: He's not open holding his agreement from the jump.
Speaker 1: So I think that's where, you know, and then when
Speaker 1: the bitch starts catching feelings and you're like he's like
Speaker 1: whoa who look at like wondering where you're leaving on Saturday,
Speaker 1: not coming home like or whatever, the next day and
Speaker 1: you're like, what you mean, I told you you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, I think it plays on both ends,
Speaker 1: you know, it's I think, I don't know. We're all
Speaker 1: parents agree that like humans are just like innately a
Speaker 1: little manipulative.
Speaker 2: One thousand percent one thousand percent, especially babies and children.
Speaker 3: Oh that's their survival tactic. But like, no, I agree,
Speaker 3: like there is there is that. But I think that,
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe I could be completely naive to this,
Speaker 3: and I just feel that I can't see myself getting
Speaker 3: into a relationship today with somebody that I know is
Speaker 3: pulling a super manipulative tactic. Right, that's like saying this thing,
Speaker 3: but their actions are saying another thing. And I would
Speaker 3: see that and be like, you know what, this may
Speaker 3: not be a great agreement. The reason why Shannon and
Speaker 3: I work so well in the beginning is because we
Speaker 3: both upheld our agreement. I wasn't leaping over, we weren't cuddling,
Speaker 3: we weren't pillow talking, we weren't talking about the future.
Speaker 1: Shan totally seems like the type of moment listener fu buddies,
Speaker 1: you leave, you leave after it, don't cuddle me.
Speaker 2: Let's not talk about.
Speaker 3: It all the way to the point where she would
Speaker 3: never text me.
Speaker 2: First she told you she was not gonna text you.
Speaker 3: She tell me this, but but yeah, she never.
Speaker 2: Rules of buddys.
Speaker 1: She she knew what it was.
Speaker 3: And so I and I've definitely been in fuck buddy
Speaker 3: relationships prior Shan. That never worked out because neither one
Speaker 3: of us are holding up thing to you to become more.
Speaker 2: She become more appealing because thousand I told she got
Speaker 2: to play the game I told.
Speaker 3: I told Shan, I said, I said, this is terrible,
Speaker 3: but like you know, she she know what it is.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, when we started having sex,
Speaker 3: I didn't know that you would be like future. I
Speaker 3: never looked at you that way. I looked at the
Speaker 3: situation like dang, like there's a sex ologist. I'm about
Speaker 3: to go and learn some few things. And then after
Speaker 3: a few months, when this dwindles out, then I'm gonna
Speaker 3: know a little bit.
Speaker 1: More about sex. And then now my sex life is good.
Speaker 3: I was trying well with two kids married, But.
Speaker 1: It's a mutual exchange. I'm going to get some moves,
Speaker 1: We're going to entertain each other. Then it's a mutual exchange,
Speaker 1: just like we're using each other.
Speaker 3: So and she used me to she was reading books
Speaker 3: and doing things and she didn't get to do before,
Speaker 3: and so she was trying out things, you know, she
Speaker 3: was learning on the same time.
Speaker 1: Her little like like, you know, it's so true because
Speaker 1: I think I told this, like I have a fun
Speaker 1: buddy and very same like very like minimal other stuff
Speaker 1: other than sex, like we'll shoot the ship, I have
Speaker 1: a drink. And I was like, all right, But one
Speaker 1: time he did like sleepover and it was like iddled
Speaker 1: me a little bit, and at first I was annoyed
Speaker 1: and then like kissed me when he left, and I
Speaker 1: was like, is he cool?
Speaker 3: Yea, My mind started to tricks on me, which is understandable.
Speaker 3: Though it's understandable, like it makes sense. And that's the
Speaker 3: thing is, like I don't think that I'm ever trying
Speaker 3: to demonize the person that falls for someone that's pulling
Speaker 3: these manipultive tactics because they work, and they've been working
Speaker 3: for centuries, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't mean that you're a terrible person
Speaker 3: or you're a person that just can't see red flags.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, they're like dark
Speaker 3: psychology for a reason. There's a reason why you know,
Speaker 3: these tactics work. You know, do you.
Speaker 1: Think that they're asking for myself? Do you think that
Speaker 1: when we because okay, you said like dating someone and
Speaker 1: then seeing red flags and be like, oh, I'm cool.
Speaker 1: Do you think that when we see red flags and
Speaker 1: we lean into it, it's like the unhealed parts of
Speaker 1: ourselves Because I've seen such toxic red flags and I'm like, run,
Speaker 1: run towards it, you know what I mean. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: but then you come in, but sure finally walk the
Speaker 1: fuck away because and then that's where like that high high, high,
Speaker 1: high high comes from. Because even you're talking about your
Speaker 1: relationship with Shan, it's like I can imagine, like, so
Speaker 1: it was a slow and steady build up. You are
Speaker 1: like acting crazy, you know what I mean. It wasn't
Speaker 1: some all the time thing obviously, So I think sometimes
Speaker 1: like this, like the slow and easy love, like those
Speaker 1: are what you need to look out for. It doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be something high high more.
Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, toxic sex is fun, Like we can't
Speaker 3: deny it. You know, facts is from scientific there's a
Speaker 3: you know, I have this story where like you know,
Speaker 3: me and my ex were getting to a crazy argument
Speaker 3: and she hit me with a car. What after she
Speaker 3: After she hit me with the car, we went up
Speaker 3: and had sex. Whoa, and it was awesome sex. No,
Speaker 3: it wasn't that I didn't get like ran over like words,
Speaker 3: but but we were we were arguing. It was it
Speaker 3: was in the car and I got out the car,
Speaker 3: you know, you know how it is, get out the car,
Speaker 3: like I ain't funk with this ship no more. Get
Speaker 3: out the car. And then she's like trying to take off.
Speaker 3: But I went to the front and not the back way,
Speaker 3: and so when she took off, she hit me with
Speaker 3: like she like bumped me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, no, I don't know that's crazy.
Speaker 3: You're never like you trying to speed off in an argument.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: I'm not the only toxicigure in the room right now.
Speaker 1: Careful, I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 3: In the heat of the moment you met.
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Speaker 3: I have talked to you know what it is?
Speaker 1: You know? I got it. I got it.
Speaker 3: I figured it out.
Speaker 1: When we're in a disagreement, we have to end the argument.
Speaker 3: Like I can't just let it go, Like we can't
Speaker 3: like if we're like in a disagreement of like whatever
Speaker 3: it may be, Like, it's really hard for me to
Speaker 3: go to sleep mad, and it's really hard for me
Speaker 3: to leave the argument, like without coming to some kind
Speaker 3: of resolution.
Speaker 1: Do you do you have to be right or do
Speaker 1: you just want to come to a resolution resolution. I
Speaker 1: don't have to be right every time.
Speaker 3: It is because space is good.
Speaker 2: It is toxic. The other person doesn't want that, like
Speaker 2: they're not ready for that. And then it's being forced
Speaker 2: upon you because I've experienced that because he was toxic
Speaker 2: and he was crazy. But did you go to sleep man?
Speaker 1: Go to sleep man?
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's no resolution and you guys need to just
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because now we start arguing about Now we're arguing
Speaker 3: about shit that don't even matter. We started working about semantics.
Speaker 3: You know, it starts getting into like you said this, now,
Speaker 3: I said that. No, yesterday, two forty five, you said this,
Speaker 3: and so it gets into the we're like what do
Speaker 3: we We're not even arguing about that real issue anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, so I'm curious because you went from like getting
Speaker 1: hit by a car, like by a car to like
Speaker 1: savage like toxic sects. And now you're like this evolved
Speaker 1: version of yourself with Shan, and you like, you know,
Speaker 1: like texology terms, you know, Like I'm curious, was it, like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe getting hit by the car or what
Speaker 1: made you break away from your toxic Were you just tired?
Speaker 1: He said, I'm this is not or like I need
Speaker 1: to know what shifted or is that how you recognize
Speaker 1: when Shan was totally fucking saying dealing with others?
Speaker 3: No, it's funny because I don't think that, you know,
Speaker 3: I have this struggle all the time of like you
Speaker 3: get become alone and you heal and then you find
Speaker 3: your person. But like I really found myself through that relationship,
Speaker 3: through that, through that that type of interaction with Shan,
Speaker 3: you know, I was already on track, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I was I was at I was at
Speaker 3: the place where I was honest. I was at the
Speaker 3: place where I was like, I don't want a relationship.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do this. But that's not all
Speaker 3: the way healthy sometimes. But through the relationship with Shan,
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, like we can be one hundred percent,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent honest with each other and we're not
Speaker 3: really arguing like that, like you're not really mad right now,
Speaker 3: Like so it just became like healing. Like I would
Speaker 3: say that I'm not this super evolved person that just
Speaker 3: like magically changed. I think I'm very similar to where
Speaker 3: I was. But I think the difference is that I'm
Speaker 3: in a relationship that's not fun me out about the
Speaker 3: toxic shit. That's kind of like it's getting ahead of
Speaker 3: the toxic shit. You know, like we're we're talking about
Speaker 3: it openly. You know, there's a level of transparency that
Speaker 3: wasn't in prior relationships, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And I just had an epiphany.
Speaker 1: I think, ladies, if you're listening, I think when you
Speaker 1: get a get a man like that his later twenties,
Speaker 1: right before the thirties, I'm feeling like, if they're smart,
Speaker 1: if you get a young smart one, you can like
Speaker 1: teach them and guide them, like Shandon.
Speaker 2: Just fat out fact honestly.
Speaker 1: Like Orlando's like when I met him was like twenty nine.
Speaker 1: You know. Now i'e thirty one, strong, thirty one. He's
Speaker 1: talking on podcasts. Podcasters are smart. They're doing a lot
Speaker 1: of talking. I'm literallying daily, literally, I mean I told
Speaker 1: you me andn't I don't have a conversation. And I
Speaker 1: was like, why do you think this is so easy?
Speaker 1: We're communicating all the time and talking about our feelings
Speaker 1: exad because we're both podcasters. Baby, we're mature and we're
Speaker 1: learning all the time. And I was like, you're right.
Speaker 1: We're in the school of podcasting, it's independent podcast studies,
Speaker 1: and we're always talking like, let's evolve.
Speaker 2: What do you think about this relationship? Do you think
Speaker 2: abot this?
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? And it's like the
Speaker 1: most like fucking annoying, talkative, fucking relationship. But here we are.
Speaker 1: This is what you need to do. You need to
Speaker 1: find an early thirties, late twenties podcast here and mold
Speaker 1: them and tell them the game and they have to
Speaker 1: be ready to absorb and then they get a husband.
Speaker 3: There's some fuck boys that at forty years old though, So.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, that's why you get them when
Speaker 1: they've been around, like they have a lot of young
Speaker 1: peatures that are crazy and then now you're like, let
Speaker 1: me show you the way. You know, you're like, let
Speaker 1: me show you. When it's like I'm saying, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, and then they'll be like, huh, this is
Speaker 1: kind of cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, mesmerized, you know.
Speaker 1: I just I broke the code.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow later only two hundred plus episodes, thank you.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I never I never thought that I wanted to date
Speaker 1: like someone who talked as much as me.
Speaker 2: But you know, like get the content.
Speaker 3: Do you talk a lot of off air? Uh?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Sometimes we could be quiet, but if you talk a lot,
Speaker 1: like in general, I do, especially when I get excited,
Speaker 1: really excited about a topic. Yeah, sometimes I shut the
Speaker 1: fuck up. Oh yeah, but sometimes after talking for so long,
Speaker 1: I'm like.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, see, I'm like, I like being quiet a lot,
Speaker 3: like if I'm in social environments around people or you know,
Speaker 3: but if I'm around like friends or or even chant,
Speaker 3: sometimes she's like, fucking speak, yeah, talk, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you don't understand. Like, I just like watching you. I
Speaker 3: like being in your presence because the way you just
Speaker 3: atee that spaghetti, Like I learned so much about you.
Speaker 3: I actually enjoy watching you do normal stuff. I enjoy
Speaker 3: just sitting in silence with you, watching you blink, watching
Speaker 3: you do things, because that just expresses things to me
Speaker 3: that you can't even tell me and so, but she's
Speaker 3: just like I hate it, Like I want to talk,
Speaker 3: you know, but we talk too, but at the same time,
Speaker 3: like I get the most time together when we're just
Speaker 3: like chilling. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I'm similar in that way too. It's like,
Speaker 2: I mean obvious, I'm a podcaster, so I fucking talk
Speaker 2: for a living. But I like silence. I'm definitely an observer.
Speaker 2: If we can't sit in silence, then it makes me nervous.
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to like, oh, yeah, you
Speaker 2: have to be able to sit in silence, like I
Speaker 2: have to keep talking now, like what I don't want
Speaker 2: to talk? Yeah, And then I'm like, what the what
Speaker 2: do you have to talk about? Shut the fuck up?
Speaker 2: Like I just I just I feel like I feel
Speaker 2: like if you can be still with someone and not
Speaker 2: have to say much, you know, like.
Speaker 3: It means more to me. I mean it's not for everyone, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it means a lot. It's just dope. It just shows
Speaker 3: me all the like small bits and pieces of you
Speaker 3: that you probably don't even realize in yourself, you know.
Speaker 2: So I know in your like you're married, our father
Speaker 2: of you know too, Okay, do you know if you're
Speaker 2: having another girl.
Speaker 3: We're having a girl.
Speaker 2: You're in the house the whole lady.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they out number me, know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Woke little babies, a little woke baby, little feminists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're they're they're deep right now.
Speaker 2: But when you and Shan start as fuck budd you
Speaker 2: guys are so entered into like an open relationship too, right, yep?
Speaker 2: And then is your marriage open? Is that something that
Speaker 2: you Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 3: It's like we're not like I'm not like we're not
Speaker 3: doing anything right now because we're just so busy. You
Speaker 3: got the baby and everything. But our relationship has not
Speaker 3: changed since the start, just the titles, I guess and
Speaker 3: the more that we share. You know, it's a long life.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like it's shifts, Like obviously relationships go
Speaker 2: through shifts, and like you might be more heavily you know,
Speaker 2: active in your openness, you know, early on, and then
Speaker 2: you know, you get do you find closeness and then
Speaker 2: maybe kids get involved in things. Do you think that
Speaker 2: I mean, this might be a silly question, but like
Speaker 2: not practicing your openness makes you get farther and farther
Speaker 2: away from it.
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: Maybe I probably you know, it's like it's almost like
Speaker 3: fighting for your relationship or like like we were talking
Speaker 3: about earlier, like fighting to stay in this in this.
Speaker 2: But what is fighting to stay open?
Speaker 1: Like somebody? But I no, you know what it is.
Speaker 3: I think when you're when we were younger, there was
Speaker 3: a lot more opportunity to meet more people. There was
Speaker 3: a lot. It was just there was more opportunity there.
Speaker 3: I think right now with you know, even with going
Speaker 3: through the pandemic and then now we have a child
Speaker 3: and another one on the way, there's like a lot
Speaker 3: more demanding at the home and what we are creating
Speaker 3: together that I just don't think there's that as much opportunity.
Speaker 3: But the idea and the fundamentals of our relationship is
Speaker 3: still the same. So if if opportunity presented itself and
Speaker 3: we both vibed with it, then it wasn't It's not
Speaker 3: an issue.
Speaker 1: Do you guys play together? Have you guys? We haven't
Speaker 1: done anything together. We've talked about it.
Speaker 3: There's been potentials, there's been you know, situations, but we
Speaker 3: haven't actually both done something together with somebody.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a sex party? No?
Speaker 3: But we actually we almost went to one, but I
Speaker 3: think what happened was like, because what happened we got
Speaker 3: invited to one or maybe we looked one of the
Speaker 3: all internet or something. I don't know have it, but
Speaker 3: we found something we were going to go to one
Speaker 3: early on when we were first started dating. But I
Speaker 3: don't remember what happened. We ended up not going. We
Speaker 3: always wanted to, we never just ended up going, though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I think that relationships obviously
Speaker 2: like they're lad. I don't want to make it sound
Speaker 2: like you have to fight just keep your marriage open.
Speaker 2: I was just curious. I was just curious how that works,
Speaker 2: especially I mean now that you do have kids, and
Speaker 2: it's not something that they maybe would be accustomed to
Speaker 2: experience of you as parents, And I don't even know
Speaker 2: like how you would navigate that. Maybe you've had that
Speaker 2: conversation about how you would navigate openness as far as
Speaker 2: like introducing like people to your children or if it's
Speaker 2: be kept separately then like because you're not actively open
Speaker 2: them them being like, wait, hold up, what is this
Speaker 2: hold on?
Speaker 3: Weird? I hear that, And it's something that people have
Speaker 3: asked me before, you know, even before we even had kids.
Speaker 3: They're like, but what are you children? And it's like yeah,
Speaker 3: oh god, yeah, but it's like forbid, do do do
Speaker 3: people who are not open? Oh? Thank you? Do people
Speaker 3: who are not open do they like at a certain
Speaker 3: age be like, so mommy and daddy are having sex,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like we're not.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: We're not sharing our sex life with our kids like that,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. We're educating our kids on sex,
Speaker 3: but we're not being Like so Mommy was.
Speaker 2: Well, wouldn't be like necessarily sex, I mean just even
Speaker 2: showing affection to you know, like other people, other people,
Speaker 2: like you know, Like, I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 2: how you guys navigate with just your regular friendships. So like,
Speaker 2: do you like like hugging a woman, Like would it
Speaker 2: be uncomfortable to see daddy hug a woman and give
Speaker 2: her kiss on the mouth or even a kiss on
Speaker 2: the cheek, Like is that awkward?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I haven't really thought about it. I mean I know
Speaker 3: that that's just like I'm not like that right now,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Usually, if there was.
Speaker 3: Something that was crossing a line, I usually would have
Speaker 3: wouldn't even do that in front of you know, my kids.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not sure. I haven't really thought about that.
Speaker 3: It's a great question.
Speaker 2: What's your type?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I had a type, Like I'm going to be open
Speaker 2: right now today, if you're gonna fight to keep it open.
Speaker 3: You know what it is? I like, you know, I
Speaker 3: like confident. You know, women who are sure what they
Speaker 3: want and what they what they want to have in
Speaker 3: the experience. It's I like older women. You know, not
Speaker 3: nothing against younger women, but I just older. I mean
Speaker 3: everybody out did has always been older.
Speaker 1: Than me by how many years?
Speaker 2: Like? What's the look five?
Speaker 3: I mean, shen is I don't want to put it.
Speaker 3: I don't even do that.
Speaker 1: I go do that right now.
Speaker 3: Oldest woman you've dated dated.
Speaker 2: Okay whatever dated dated, dated dated.
Speaker 3: I think the oldest was like six or seven years older.
Speaker 3: When I was younger in high school, like I was,
Speaker 3: there was like a thirty six year old that I
Speaker 3: was messing with.
Speaker 2: In high school. Yeah, you look like a baby now
Speaker 2: right now, little baby.
Speaker 1: No, I just graduated.
Speaker 3: I was like eighteen.
Speaker 2: I can still imagine you looking like a little baby.
Speaker 3: I did, I did?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: Your teacher?
Speaker 3: Uh no, I don't no, no, no, not a teacher,
Speaker 3: but it was a it was just a woman.
Speaker 2: Where the did you mean?
Speaker 1: Is this your porn category?
Speaker 2: Are you like in MILFs and like teachers?
Speaker 3: No? No, I When I was younger, I was definitely
Speaker 3: was going into the older category. But I think that
Speaker 3: now it's just it's more about like the maturity and
Speaker 3: experience rather than the age, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I think that's what I was searching for when
Speaker 3: I was younger, was just somebody guidance, guidance, you know,
Speaker 3: but not even how don't even call it guidance, Just
Speaker 3: something somebody with some maturity and experience. Yeah, that's something
Speaker 3: that was just different than what I was experiencing at
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: Which were bitches that were maybe running over with you
Speaker 1: off with cars. Yeah, well I can see different. I
Speaker 1: don't care about none of these. I got no time,
Speaker 1: you know. I feel like I'm learning so much about
Speaker 1: you so quickly. I think we have a game that
Speaker 1: we play with our guest called Trigger, so we get
Speaker 1: to know you even quicker. I'm going to say one
Speaker 1: word and then you respond the first thing that comes
Speaker 1: to mind. You don't have to think about it. Too
Speaker 1: much and be brutally honest. Even if it's toxic. We
Speaker 1: accept you here, toxic or not.
Speaker 3: I've been, I've been. I've been honest.
Speaker 2: Think it okay?
Speaker 1: Fatherhood, Uh, great monogamy, it's cool. Boxers or briefs, boxers, idole.
Speaker 3: American.
Speaker 2: Most spontaneous thing you've ever done?
Speaker 3: Skinned up in ocean.
Speaker 2: Kevin Samuel's. Yeah, bad habits.
Speaker 3: Uh love McDonald's.
Speaker 2: Fish filet. No, the only thing that on the menu.
Speaker 1: Marriage It's great, Molly, I've done it.
Speaker 2: Favorite Strand.
Speaker 3: Indica Strand? Is that.
Speaker 2: Strand strange? I'm like, is that a merger? Shannon?
Speaker 3: You have to be like, does it have to be
Speaker 3: like the name?
Speaker 1: Hm?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, I I don't know. You
Speaker 2: know it's it's a strange and yeah, it could be.
Speaker 2: I guess could be either it's again.
Speaker 3: You know you got.
Speaker 1: I'm high from earlier and I'm about to keep getting high,
Speaker 1: so I don't really need you.
Speaker 2: Wait.
Speaker 1: Can I tell the story about when I was high
Speaker 1: and I ordered the coffee and I tell everybody that
Speaker 1: you tell me, I'll tell you later.
Speaker 2: It's so stupid.
Speaker 1: Stay at home, dad, I'll do it. Black women love it.
Speaker 1: Happily ever after. It's true white women, one time, one.
Speaker 2: Time, one time, one time, I will even one in
Speaker 2: my life. Really, you're from the valley?
Speaker 3: No, well, my dad lived in the valley, but I
Speaker 3: lived in the I e.
Speaker 1: Not me being shocked really in the valley, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not a black woman from the valley.
Speaker 3: My brothers from the valley. He said he'd only been
Speaker 3: with two. Where's your brother at brother? Really he's twenty three?
Speaker 2: Turn on.
Speaker 3: Aggressive mm hmm, turn off messy.
Speaker 2: Favorite porn category.
Speaker 3: The four women page? Part? Yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: The four women page?
Speaker 3: There's a there's a section, there's a topic where it's
Speaker 3: four women. It's just a little bit.
Speaker 2: More uh less wrong?
Speaker 3: No lighting, I like, I like it's important. It's important.
Speaker 3: It's important. The lighting is good, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They just they get cinematography. It gets like, you know, like,
Speaker 3: have you ever watched like an Erica Left film?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, so she's a woman porn director.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard of her.
Speaker 3: She just makes better porn.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now I can't wait to go home and
Speaker 1: go to the women. Oh my god, that rose Okay,
Speaker 1: favorite position I like.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it's called. But when you're on top,
Speaker 3: like I say, I'm on the edge of the couch
Speaker 3: and you're on top, and I'm like holding your ass
Speaker 3: here and I'm moving like this like a ride.
Speaker 1: I don't know if hold on.
Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, moved the mic real quick.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a your like.
Speaker 2: I'm on the edge your model.
Speaker 1: Like this, like you have more leverage with your hands. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: like you could stand up like baby boy or you
Speaker 1: could do that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I like to I like it like that.
Speaker 2: Celebrity crush. You know.
Speaker 3: I was just talking about this and we're empty right now.
Speaker 3: What there's not one, there's not I haven't I was
Speaker 3: just talking about this with a friend. I was like,
Speaker 3: who if someone slitting your d MS, who would you
Speaker 3: risk it all for?
Speaker 1: And I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know. You think that was the first person
Speaker 3: that came to mind, But it's like would I I
Speaker 3: don't think I would would.
Speaker 1: Everybody in this room would do it. Pregnant nine months.
Speaker 3: I'm just the father that stepped up.
Speaker 2: Single mom terrible.
Speaker 3: That's not good. And on the guys side, what is
Speaker 3: it good? Is it good to be a mom?
Speaker 1: You do realize you're sitting but in our studio, like
Speaker 1: we could jump you right?
Speaker 3: No, no, but but but but no, why said it? Though?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what you think. It's going great trade.
Speaker 1: We gotta put Jared in the trunk.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want that for anybody.
Speaker 1: We don't know he ever got here.
Speaker 2: We have.
Speaker 1: Do we'll take care of him.
Speaker 3: No, I don't mean that in like a disrespectful way,
Speaker 3: if that makes me sense.
Speaker 1: It's more like, what you're not making it better?
Speaker 2: He said, what do you.
Speaker 3: What do you think? What do you think I mean
Speaker 3: by it? Though?
Speaker 2: Wait, what's.
Speaker 1: What do you think I mean by it?
Speaker 2: He said?
Speaker 1: Not even like that.
Speaker 2: I mean I just mean like, what.
Speaker 3: Do you think I mean by I don't know?
Speaker 2: You tired fast? You feel bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel bad if we if you have did
Speaker 3: this single?
Speaker 1: No help? This is our media needs to be better.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh god.
Speaker 3: Here's here's here's my thinking. Here's my thinking. Here's my thinking.
Speaker 1: Not for the week of high but I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's.
Speaker 3: Here's my thinking. Here's my thinking. Shan Shan had COVID
Speaker 3: for two weeks, so I'm having.
Speaker 2: A single mom for ten days.
Speaker 3: It was hard.
Speaker 1: It was hard. Oh my god, this is fresh off
Speaker 1: of a baby twenty four hours for.
Speaker 3: Vibes, and that's where it's like, Oh, that's where that
Speaker 3: that's where the side comes from. Oh my god. Well,
Speaker 3: not not to say that it was not like a dish,
Speaker 3: if that means I could see how it could be interpret.
Speaker 2: That way, though, Mom is gonna come for you. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, get you ready for your d m.
Speaker 3: Well, my heart is good. It was coming from a
Speaker 3: place because like that felt like it's hard.
Speaker 2: You can't believe it.
Speaker 3: It's hard.
Speaker 1: I was actually just talking about I was trying to
Speaker 1: be enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I was just talking to Shan. I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know how single people do it. This is hard.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it's hard. You don't have a few
Speaker 1: more sex magic. I never thought of that.
Speaker 2: Infestation masturbation.
Speaker 3: Masturbation is good. What is that? Like? You manifesting how
Speaker 3: you masturbate?
Speaker 1: Now you manifest what you want when you when you claim.
Speaker 3: Oh I've never done that, Maybe I should try that
Speaker 3: than therapy, it's good, you should do it.
Speaker 2: Best advice you've ever gotten.
Speaker 3: Uh, you're worried about the critics that ain't protocol and insecurity.
Speaker 3: Everybody got it? M hm, you have an insecurity.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think my insecurity is that you won't I won't
Speaker 3: be accepted by the people I look up to.
Speaker 2: Is it like your family or those like?
Speaker 3: No, Like let's say, I don't know, like because I
Speaker 3: do music, so like there's there's artists that I look
Speaker 3: up to, where there's artists that I that I like
Speaker 3: study off of or learn from. And if they were
Speaker 3: to hear any of my music and say, oh this
Speaker 3: guys trash like that hurt your feeling that.
Speaker 2: You're an artist and you're sensitive about your ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, words of I say.
Speaker 2: I mean I used to feel that way a lot
Speaker 2: about like wanting to have like the respect of my
Speaker 2: I guess idols and ways and of course you want
Speaker 2: them to it. It feels nice, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yes, it's the ultimate place that you want
Speaker 3: to be in, you know, but it's still in security sometimes.
Speaker 2: No, that was it?
Speaker 3: You're still upset about that single life?
Speaker 1: How about this? What if this is a learning moment?
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: What if this is a learning moment? What do you
Speaker 3: think that What did you feel when I said that
Speaker 3: it's were you raised my single mother or yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: It was like you say terrible. What did you think
Speaker 1: when I think when I say single mom? Like, what
Speaker 1: do you think of single moms? Like you could have
Speaker 1: said strength?
Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking about and so what that is
Speaker 3: all true, But the thing that I thought of I
Speaker 3: was like, man, when I was taking care of ru
Speaker 3: for two weeks.
Speaker 1: That's hard.
Speaker 2: No, that was that was that was a real response.
Speaker 2: It's true. It is hard, very difficult.
Speaker 3: And more and it's powerful too. It's strength that those also.
Speaker 1: I think also, I think we always talk about this
Speaker 1: just in general. You know, single moms, particularly single black moms,
Speaker 1: get labeled as struggle, as a heartache, you know, but
Speaker 1: like we're well you know what I mean, like or
Speaker 1: that there's.
Speaker 3: So everything is reference point, right, So I think what's
Speaker 3: cool and interesting is that when I say terrible and
Speaker 3: that it's bad, that you were thinking of yourself in
Speaker 3: that we're not yourself in the sense, but like the
Speaker 3: single mom is who I'm talking about I was talking
Speaker 3: about when I was saying it, I was thinking of
Speaker 3: the dad who didn't want to hate, help take care.
Speaker 3: I know, I got that. It was so funny because
Speaker 3: that's where my mind went was like I was talking
Speaker 3: to you know, the whole abortion laws and everything, and
Speaker 3: one of our co hosts was saying that if the
Speaker 3: guy says from the jump, I don't want to have
Speaker 3: a baby, how much how responsible is he for the baby?
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, but you're still thinking of
Speaker 3: that baby from a selfish place. You're not thinking of
Speaker 3: the baby from like the baby didn't ask to be here.
Speaker 3: The baby didn't choose you to be her dad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and so like now that the baby's here, you still
Speaker 3: have a responsibility to take care.
Speaker 2: Of it, and she has to go through both experiences
Speaker 2: either one, whether it's getting an abortion or having the baby.
Speaker 3: Right, and so so at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: let me just make a choice. Well, at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, it's like that at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, you can't think of the baby from a
Speaker 3: selfish place. Even if I didn't want to have the
Speaker 3: baby to begin with. Now it's not about me in
Speaker 3: this moment. It's about what's the healthiest for the baby.
Speaker 3: So that's where my mind was going. It's like, if
Speaker 3: there's a single mom out there like that dad decided
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be around, or he died or
Speaker 3: that Okay, well, that's that's unfortunately.
Speaker 2: I mean not that was dark because I'm dark, but
Speaker 2: I was thinking, or.
Speaker 3: That happened to that, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: Or you've chosen to not or you know, women also
Speaker 2: choose to just not have like have that person in
Speaker 2: their life, like have that person have access to their kid.
Speaker 2: There's so many scenarios as to why someone would be
Speaker 2: a single parent, the father leaving.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and that's the thing is like, if you're
Speaker 3: if you're thinking of one word answers, you're not going
Speaker 3: through scenario.
Speaker 2: We're judging him.
Speaker 1: You're going off the would say you're going off the
Speaker 1: one scenario.
Speaker 4: What I want you to say that that's that's that's
Speaker 4: kind of.
Speaker 1: I want you to react. No, we're kidding. We know
Speaker 1: you're a nice guy. Some of it is that kind
Speaker 1: of a nice guy.
Speaker 3: No, I said, yes, some of some of it everybody
Speaker 3: wants to be We all got a little scar in us.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was deep. My daughter's gonna love that. Evil
Speaker 2: people of the world. No, yeah, scarred, mufasa. You know
Speaker 2: your friend, she was just very scarred today.
Speaker 1: Just today you you pulled a tarot card.
Speaker 2: I did, and you pulled strength.
Speaker 1: The strength card represents strength, determination, and power like the chariot. However,
Speaker 1: while the chariot signifies outer strength and will, the strength
Speaker 1: card speaks to the inner strength and the human spirit's
Speaker 1: ability to overcome any obstacle. Strength is about knowing you
Speaker 1: can endure life's obstacles. You have great stamina and persistence
Speaker 1: balanced with underlying patients and inner calm. You're committed to
Speaker 1: what you need to do, and you go about it
Speaker 1: in a way that shows your composure and maturity with
Speaker 1: the strength tarot card appears. When the strength tarot card
Speaker 1: appears in a reading, you're fueled by your inner strength,
Speaker 1: personal power, strong will, and determination. You do not rule
Speaker 1: by trying to control others. You quietly influence and persuade.
Speaker 1: Others may underestimate your power because it is so invisible
Speaker 1: that you should eat, but you should see that it
Speaker 1: as an advantage. You can control a situation without excessive
Speaker 1: outward force. No one knows it's you calling the shots
Speaker 1: that Libra.
Speaker 2: It kind of sounds like what you kind of I
Speaker 2: don't know about Libra, but it sounds like kind of
Speaker 2: this episode you're saying that, like I don't know, like
Speaker 2: you have to. You're a watcher quiet you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, And but that you still and that you nap,
Speaker 2: but you still navigate and like you're a powerful force.
Speaker 1: Wait, listen to this. Your strength gives you confidence to
Speaker 1: overcome any growing fears, challenges, or doubts. Feel the fear
Speaker 1: and do it anyway. If you have been going through
Speaker 1: a rough time and are burnt out or stressed, the
Speaker 1: strength car encourage you to find the power within yourself
Speaker 1: to persevere. Hey, you have got what it takes to
Speaker 1: see the situation through, so it is to its eventual end.
Speaker 1: You're a loyal friend and a solid supporter, hey, and.
Speaker 2: The loyal partner for and you're holding your wife down
Speaker 2: even though as hard as fun. You made it through.
Speaker 1: You made it a.
Speaker 2: Strength card, strength card.
Speaker 3: I didn't mean it that way. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: We are with you, but it's so good.
Speaker 1: You might feel compelled to hold space for someone who
Speaker 1: needs your strength and support, and it seems like you
Speaker 1: do that very well. That's really like it.
Speaker 2: Is balanced, that's beautiful.
Speaker 3: You are cards.
Speaker 2: Is that you against that too?
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about it. Yeah, I got I
Speaker 3: had my cards pulled one time in uh turks and caicos.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what they said.
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Speaker 1: The It comes with a really cute applicator that for me,
Speaker 1: I really enjoy because you don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: just getting it to your finger length.
Speaker 2: You could really get it in up there. You really
Speaker 2: love that.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: At first, I was like, Oh, I really do like
Speaker 1: that applicator, So do you?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 3: I do? Wait, so it's like it's an actual like.
Speaker 2: It's like no, it's a vitamin. It looks like a
Speaker 2: like a capsule and it has bork acid in it,
Speaker 2: and bork acid is like a magical ingredient that helps
Speaker 2: neutralize the vagina and a healthy ease.
Speaker 3: Is it? Do you eat it or do you know
Speaker 3: it's positive?
Speaker 2: So you put this.
Speaker 1: I don't know I've ever seen a suppository like it's
Speaker 1: like a tampon applicator.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So you put.
Speaker 2: The vitamin in there and then you put it in
Speaker 2: your vagina and then you insert it and then you
Speaker 2: can go to sleep. You go to sleep in the
Speaker 2: next morning, your pussy's taking Wow.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 2: This is a real fact.
Speaker 1: No really, I mean yeah, honestly, if you're experiencing anything
Speaker 1: off sometimes like I had a friend always having one
Speaker 1: particular partner and it was just not mixing at all.
Speaker 1: And basically they said, there's no fix. Yeah they can't,
Speaker 1: they can't have sex anymore. The vitamins fixed it.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So anyway, tell us your hoary stories.
Speaker 3: There was a time I was I used to like
Speaker 3: bartend and used to also work for like different weddings,
Speaker 3: And there was one time I was working a wedding
Speaker 3: and this one woman that was part of the bridesmaid
Speaker 3: was there. You know, we're talking, we're chopping it up,
Speaker 3: and I was flirting with her, but I didn't really
Speaker 3: expect nothing out of it. It was just flirting, you know,
Speaker 3: throughout the whole night, flirt, flirt, flirt. As the night
Speaker 3: started to end, I like threw a joke out there, like, hey,
Speaker 3: why don't you come over to my house like I live, like,
Speaker 3: you know, not too far away, come through, you know,
Speaker 3: and she was like okay, and I was like, oh
Speaker 3: you said, yeah, okay, And I like texting my room
Speaker 3: at the time. I was like, hey, bro, you gotta
Speaker 3: got dip man, go do something real quick. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to, you know, it's a new situation.
Speaker 3: So she ended up coming over. We had sex, and
Speaker 3: I at that time, like I never I would always
Speaker 3: pull out. I was like, you know, pull out, and
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, in this moment, I decided to pull
Speaker 3: out and take the condom off and like ejaculate on her.
Speaker 2: It was a porn show.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was just it wasn't like it
Speaker 3: wasn't like disrespectful. It was just like, you know, here
Speaker 3: and then after I got done, she was like, oh,
Speaker 3: my turn and then she started going and squirted all
Speaker 3: over me and I wasn't ready for it, and so
Speaker 3: I remember after that time, I was like, this is
Speaker 3: what it is. This is what it feels like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, your turn? Yeah?
Speaker 2: How many?
Speaker 1: Like, how long after the your turn did it come?
Speaker 3: It was pretty quick. It was pretty quick. I thought
Speaker 3: it was like I didn't fully understand what she said. Yeah,
Speaker 3: until it happened. I was like, oh, she said your turn,
Speaker 3: it's cold and uh and then she left. I like her,
Speaker 3: I'm going to do that. I was like in my head,
Speaker 3: I was like, dang, maybe I should ask next time.
Speaker 1: Damn so violated.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was great. Yeah yeah, Well can
Speaker 2: you tell our people where they can find you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Enjoy Jared Brady all social platforms. Also, we have a podcast,
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Speaker 3: probably said it on that podcast. Oh wow, spilling the tea,
Speaker 3: like we've break the code a couple of times.
Speaker 2: The secrets.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say secrets, but.
Speaker 2: You hear that, lady. This show is for you. This
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Speaker 3: But you know there's times in that when we're telling
Speaker 3: the truth that sometimes can ruffle some feathers or we're learning.
Speaker 3: We're very open to learn.
Speaker 2: The truth is the truth.
Speaker 1: If that's how you feel, you got to tell us
Speaker 1: how it is. That's the problem. We want to be
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Speaker 3: We are always evolving and growing and we have a
Speaker 3: really big women audience, so they're quick to educate us
Speaker 3: very quickly.
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