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Speaker 1: are at the twenty twenty four NFL Combined in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: joined by Titans General Manager Ran Carthon. Ran Carthon, what

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Speaker 1: have you already been doing since you arrived in Indianapolis? Walking?

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Speaker 1: A lot of walking. Now we hit the ground running.

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Speaker 2: Got in town yesterday about five thirty, all about five,

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Speaker 2: and got to the hotel about five thirty and went

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Speaker 2: straight into interviews. First interview was at seven twenty and

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Speaker 2: we went until ten forty last night.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot going on at the out in combine,

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Speaker 3: and what everybody talks about in this media room is

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Speaker 3: the workouts. But for you, Ring Karthon, you are most

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Speaker 3: excited about what part of the combine.

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Speaker 2: Actually meeting these guys right because we've seen them move around,

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Speaker 2: We watched the tape, we've saw them at all Star games,

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Speaker 2: and there are a lot of guys we saw in

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Speaker 2: rob or our other scouts. We've seen guys in the fall,

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Speaker 2: but now you get your hands on them. Now you

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Speaker 2: get to actually meet them as people. And that's the

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Speaker 2: part I love the most and really enjoyed, you know,

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Speaker 2: meeting a group of d linemen that we had last night.

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Speaker 1: Ran A lot of teams take this week very differently

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Speaker 1: do it now? What can you share about that? Oh,

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Speaker 1: we do it the same way. But again we put

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Speaker 1: a real emphasis on the on the interview portion because

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Speaker 1: you got to understand for the underclass when this is

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Speaker 1: Some of the seniors, if you're at All Star Games,

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Speaker 1: you get to have your same meeting time, but for

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Speaker 1: those underclassmen, it's, you know, our first time getting our

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Speaker 1: that's a real important part for us and making sure

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Speaker 1: that the way we drive the interview, we're not spending

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Speaker 1: so much time on Hey, tell us about where you're

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Speaker 1: only get twenty minutes, and so those things can take

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Speaker 1: the questions that you really need to answer. So we

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Speaker 1: rely on our scouts to have, you know, already have

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Speaker 1: that laid out where they're from, you know what type

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Speaker 1: of what we really want to know.

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Speaker 3: This time last year, you were a new general manager

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Speaker 3: and things were coming at you really fast. Now you've

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Speaker 3: had a year with this scouting department, with this group

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Speaker 3: of people. How has that impacted the way that you're

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Speaker 3: able to approach things with the prospects when you're doing

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Speaker 2: I think we have a better understanding of each other.

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Speaker 2: I think they know me a little bit better that

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Speaker 2: they don't have to, you know, if you will tiptoe around,

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Speaker 1: Now, ran carthon, how much did you find out during

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Speaker 1: the NFL combine will be a factor in who comes

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Speaker 2: No, it's a big part of it. Actually this morning,

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Speaker 3: As you're going through this week, the combine obviously is happening,

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Speaker 2: So the way we structured it, you know, and we

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Speaker 2: I want to do this year, let's get college meetings

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Speaker 2: going and we have that process, and then we went

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Speaker 2: with the coaches, and then the actual quote unquote tampering

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Speaker 1: The tampering window actually begins on March the eleventh for

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Speaker 1: the ot people to know, and free agency begins at

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Speaker 1: three o'clock on Wednesday, March the thirteenth, Ran Carthon, you

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Speaker 1: have talked so much about football character in the offseason

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Speaker 1: the free agency meetings, and you get into that here

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Speaker 2: You know, we have a veteran group in our pro

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Speaker 3: How much of you and Brian Callahan had to have

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Speaker 2: Well, it started from the interview process, you know, because

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Speaker 2: asking the coaches how much involvement have they had in

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Speaker 2: then what are things that are you know, important factors

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Speaker 2: we're both on the same page. And you can look

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Speaker 2: at the way the coaching staff was built. The coaching

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Speaker 2: staff was built in the same way that we're acquiring players,

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Speaker 2: right Like, we want talented people in here, but we

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Speaker 2: want even better people that love the game of football

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Speaker 1: Last question, when you go before the media here in

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Speaker 1: a few moments. The OT people will hear this after

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Speaker 1: the fact, but let's see how good you are. What

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Speaker 1: do you think the media is going to want to

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Speaker 1: know most? From Rand Carthon about Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 2: I think my life is these last two draft cycles,

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Speaker 2: have I've got more Derrick Henry questions and I've gotten

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Speaker 2: questions about myself and fans around town when I see him.

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Speaker 2: That's the number one question, Like, hey, we're keeping Derek right,

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Speaker 2: So I'm that's the one I'm probably expecting the most.

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Speaker 1: And probably first, what are you going to tell the

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Speaker 2: I mean what I've always told them, we don't discuss

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Speaker 2: is right for us to have conversations with his team, we'll.

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Speaker 1: Do that, Ladies and gentlemen. The most consistent man in

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Speaker 1: America Titan. The Titans Executive VP at General Vanager Rancarth.

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Speaker 3: So Titans fans, Amy Wells and I now please to

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Speaker 3: be joined at the twenty twenty four NFL combine buy

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Speaker 3: Titans head coach Brian Callahan.

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Speaker 1: Is this overwhelming?

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Speaker 4: No, No, no, it's not it. It feels like all

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Speaker 4: the combines feel I just have to talk to more people. No,

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Speaker 4: it's been great, it's been great. It's it's a short

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Speaker 4: sixty players we have to interview, and then obviously with

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Speaker 4: pretty prepared to do, but there's a lot more of it.

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Speaker 1: From a football standpoint, How does your role change from

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Speaker 4: I would say the biggest difference is I have to

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Speaker 4: pay attention to the defensive players now I have. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm in all the interviews with all the defensive linemen

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Speaker 4: last night, and so it's just more. It's just more more.

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Speaker 4: There's just more things I have to pay attention to

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Speaker 4: a little more things involved, like league wide, as far

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Speaker 4: rules that come up. Just just more things. But that's

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Speaker 4: probably the biggest difference is just uh, the big picture

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Speaker 3: With such a bigger volume of just information that you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a huge part of the process. And that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we had to make sure we got our new

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Speaker 3: It's interesting that you mention all of the new coaches

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Speaker 1: For Titans fans joining us for the OTP. They may

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Speaker 1: Can you go further and be specific about what those are? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But how does the construction of that room look like?

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Speaker 4: with relative quickness if you find the right players. It's

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Speaker 4: not always about just going to get the most expensive

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Speaker 4: ones are the ones that the media deems the best ones.

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Speaker 4: We need to make sure we got the right ones

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Speaker 4: coming in our building, and we'll spend where we need

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Speaker 4: to spend, but we have the flexibility to do it.

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Speaker 1: In Cincinnati, you were in a situation that you did

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Speaker 1: not have a quarterback when you went in, and so

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Speaker 1: in essence, Zach Taylor and you and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the staff had to take it down to the stone.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to do that with the typeans. No,

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Speaker 1: does that change how you draft and sign for now

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Speaker 1: based on the fact that you knew in Cincinnati you

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Speaker 1: had to take a long term approach.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't ever think you get a long

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Speaker 4: term approach. I think that's a you know.

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Speaker 1: A long term approach is three years now at best.

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Speaker 4: So I think you always operate with the we're trying

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Speaker 4: to put the best team on the field each year

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Speaker 4: and whatever that looks like. So if we need, if

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Speaker 4: we need free agency, if we need a draft, however

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Speaker 4: we have to do it. We're trying to put the

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Speaker 4: most competitive, best team on the field every year. And

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Speaker 4: there's long range. There's drafting long range, they're signing for

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Speaker 4: long range. Then there's then they're signing those guys that

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Speaker 4: come in and help you for for a year or

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Speaker 4: two to keep keep moving forward. And so I think

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Speaker 4: that's the best way to describe it. As you're you're

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Speaker 4: trying to put the most competitive team on the field

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Speaker 4: every year, uh, while you still have a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a long range view in mind, but knowing that

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Speaker 4: you have to supplement that somewhere with a short term

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Speaker 4: as well. So that's probably the best way to put

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Speaker 4: it out there.

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Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, as you're going through this time of year,

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Speaker 3: what has surprised you the most about the responsibilities that

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Speaker 3: you've had to have as a head coach?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, and this may sound weird, not much. I just

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Speaker 4: I've been in this rhythm for for a long time,

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Speaker 4: and I know a little bit about what's happening. I

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Speaker 4: think the amount of little things that come up that

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Speaker 4: aren't necessarily big deals, but they're just things that come

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Speaker 4: across my desk is new. That part's new, not to

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Speaker 4: be not unexpected, but new. And then the scheduling part

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Speaker 4: is really what we're I spend a lot more time

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Speaker 4: than I've thought I might, but it is you're thinking

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Speaker 4: about schedules and when you're gonna do what and how

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Speaker 4: the install for the offense and defense is going to look.

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Speaker 4: And what's the off season program scheduled during the day

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Speaker 4: going to look?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: You only have so many hours and you get more

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Speaker 4: for phase two and Phase three? How do you want

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Speaker 4: to move those around? Ones are veteran mini camp? How's

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Speaker 4: that going to look? So there's just a lot of

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Speaker 4: scheduling that that falls on my plate. That's what I'm

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Speaker 4: responsible for at the end of the day is making

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Speaker 4: sure that day, that day to day schedule, that monthly

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Speaker 4: schedule is all set for the off season, so that

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Speaker 4: I've spent more time on that maybe than I thought

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Speaker 4: I would, But I think about it a lot.

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Speaker 1: We all know well that you were the son of

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Speaker 1: a coach, and yet your dad did not give you

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Speaker 1: the chances. You came up and did it on your own.

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Speaker 1: And yet the fact that you're not overwhelmed by being

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Speaker 1: a head coach might be as big a value with

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Speaker 1: your experience as being the son of a coach as

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Speaker 1: anything Bill Callahan provided you with.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I've seen it done. I've had the

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Speaker 4: conversations with my dad. I feel prepared. There's been nothing

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Speaker 4: that's come up at this point in my short time

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Speaker 4: that's surprised me. There's been a lot of things I

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Speaker 4: felt really good about and feel very confident in what

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Speaker 4: I want to do and how I wanted it to look.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure things will come up here sooner than later,

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Speaker 4: but for the most part, I feel very confident in

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Speaker 4: I was prepared to get here, my dad being a

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Speaker 4: big part of that. And then obviously my time was

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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor, where I was involved in a lot of

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Speaker 4: the decision making process on a day to day basis.

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Speaker 4: So I've seen a lot more than maybe your your

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Speaker 4: average first time head coach. And then that's the thing

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Speaker 4: been a benefit.

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Speaker 3: We know your dad's a great are a great coach,

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Speaker 3: and we don't want to take that away. But has

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Speaker 3: it just been kind of nice to have him around.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's been fantastic. I was talking to him the

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Speaker 4: other day, just you know, I get to walk in,

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Speaker 4: I grab a couple of coffee, I go walk in

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Speaker 4: his office and we talk about whatever.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's about my kids. Sometimes it's about looking for

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Speaker 4: a house. Sometimes it's about how we want to how

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Speaker 4: we want to turn the run game. And you know,

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Speaker 4: it's just nice to have that resource, and I walk

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Speaker 4: in there a couple of times a day and you know,

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Speaker 4: I may just, hey, what's going on? What do you

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Speaker 4: got going on? I'm just run through the day, and

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Speaker 4: he may say, hey, have you thought about this? And

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Speaker 4: I No, I haven't. Then I should think about that.

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Speaker 4: So it's just it's he's been a great resource as

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Speaker 4: a as a football coach, and then it's been really

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Speaker 4: fun just be able to go kind of shoot the

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Speaker 4: breeze in my dad in his office and talk about

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Speaker 4: whatever's on my mind.

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Speaker 1: It's been fun spending time with you over this last

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Speaker 1: month and we're looking forward to a lot more. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you taking time for us at the combine. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it's good to be here for head coach Brian Callahan

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Speaker 1: and Aby Wells. I'm Mike Keith, thanking you for listening

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Speaker 1: to the OTP. Welcome to the Big Show. Where the

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Speaker 1: Manson's going?

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Speaker 2: Everbody knows it's our house, finding Thunsens