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Speaker 1: Oh Weeper watch temper ups. Welcome into One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalidah Health. I am Maddie Glab joined by

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker filling in for Murph today. He is out.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday. We're gonna have a lot of fun today.

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Speaker 1: We've got some good guests on the show. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to Greg ko Sell. We're also going to talk

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Speaker 1: to a pretty interesting person who has a lot to

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Speaker 1: do with Patrick Mahomes's success. I would say it's his trainer,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Stroop, So it'll be awesome to talk to him

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Speaker 1: and hear how he has coached Patrick Mahomes up to

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Speaker 1: be the quarterback that he is now. Today. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about the Senior Bowl, some

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Speaker 1: of the mock drafts that we've already seen. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk free agent. See, We're gonna talk Senior Bowl, uh,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl matchup, So a lot of how you doing what?

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Speaker 1: You're in the big chair today. I am in the

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Speaker 1: big chairs, so I stick. They brought in the left

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Speaker 1: hander from Chicago, Maddie Glad. So I'm glad. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you're here. This is gonna be fun today. Yeah, it'll

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Speaker 1: be great. Yeah, you're gonna have to handle the phone calls,

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Speaker 1: which is always there's there's this machine over here where

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Speaker 1: I have to touch some buttons. I'm not it's going

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Speaker 1: to go have a lot of stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We've got a Twitter pool that we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: in a little bit. We gotta come this guy, Bobby's Stroop.

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Speaker 1: He's in Tyler, Texas. He trains all the it's not

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Speaker 1: just Pat Mahomes he trained. But you know they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna say they trained Joey six Pack plus a bunch

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Speaker 1: of other guys, right, he says, I trained Pat Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of Charlie six Packs. But he does

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Speaker 1: train a ton of pro athletes, and he gets these

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Speaker 1: guys ready for the combine, which is high on everybody's

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Speaker 1: priority list these days. US included U for for watching

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Speaker 1: these guys. Who's going to be We've got all right,

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Speaker 1: just that time of you where we've got these guys

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Speaker 1: wide receivers that who's this guy from me is from Colorado,

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Speaker 1: We got all these guys that are starting to elevate

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Speaker 1: think his name is. I was watching highlights of him.

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a lot about that. And this Bobby Stroop

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Speaker 1: guy trains these guys for the combine. It's interesting because

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Speaker 1: it's not that long between these guys. You know, they

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Speaker 1: the combat. Pretty interesting. It's also an interesting life after

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Speaker 1: you finish that game, it's pretty much go, go go

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Speaker 1: Combine or Pro Day or Senior Bowl, and after that

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Speaker 1: you start training in April. It's really NonStop, and then

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Speaker 1: my first off season as a true NFL player. I

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl nineteen ninety three, you had a pretty good

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Speaker 1: some sensational vacations. It's a beautiful joint. But now you

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Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems. The official movers of the Buffalo are

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Speaker 1: hoarding the tweet sheet. You got both tweets sheet, Give

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Speaker 1: She says, keep adding talented players through the draft, preferably

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Speaker 1: gonna make you go, hey, you know, I like that guy.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see if they can get those guys signed.

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Speaker 1: It's fun. We got eleventh free agents. Free agency starts

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Speaker 1: to March eighteenth, so it'll be interesting to see how

431
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Speaker 1: that goes. And I think we know Brandon bed would

432
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: not overpay in free agency. I think he's very smart

433
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Speaker 1: about the moves he makes in free agency. Looking at

434
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Speaker 1: last year how they added to the offensive line and

435
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Speaker 1: how that paid off, I think it's so great to

436
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Speaker 1: see you add this many new players to an offensive

437
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Speaker 1: line and you ask them to find a way to

438
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,479
Speaker 1: have chemistry in one year together. And I think a

439
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 1: lot of that comes from the fact that these offensive

440
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Speaker 1: linemen that they went after, we're leaders on teams, won

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Speaker 1: with those teams, made it to the playoffs with those teams,

442
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: and so you bring that into a place and you

443
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Speaker 1: have a rookie like Cody Ford who played better than

444
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Speaker 1: probably a lot of people expected in his first year

445
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 1: when he was asked to do what he was doing

446
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: rotating garden tackle at times all year, I mean from

447
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: guarden to tackle all year. And I think it's just

448
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: it really showed some commitment by the Bill's coaching staff

449
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: to say, listen, you're you're not ready to play tackle

450
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Speaker 1: all the time just yet. Plus we got it. We

451
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: want to get you in a guard. We know in

452
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: Niseki can do it, but we want to nurse his

453
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 1: knee that we're trying to get him through the entire season.

454
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Speaker 1: They moved Brookie Cody Ford right tackle, right guard, right guard,

455
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Speaker 1: right tackle, right guard, right tackle, guard against some great players,

456
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Speaker 1: against a bunch of great players, and he held up,

457
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean he did he held his own

458
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Speaker 1: and there were times when he looked like a rookie,

459
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Speaker 1: but there were also times when he was like, hey,

460
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Speaker 1: look at that, you know. So I think it was

461
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Speaker 1: really really good coaching to continue to ask him to

462
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Speaker 1: do that and have him be productive in that. And

463
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Speaker 1: it's the way they also managed Naseeki and his you know,

464
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Speaker 1: lack of ability to stay on the field healthy all

465
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Speaker 1: the time and use him where they needed to do.

466
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Speaker 1: There's a stretch where he was out for like five

467
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Speaker 1: weeks at the end of the season. So I think

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Speaker 1: all that's really interesting. Also, one of the other things

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to about that came up to

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Speaker 1: my mind. We're not gonna get to this now because

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have time. We're gonna do this later in

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Speaker 1: the show. But looking at the forty nine Ers roster

473
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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs roster and kind of doing some cross

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Speaker 1: referencing to the Bill's rosters about you know, the draft

475
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Speaker 1: and free agency and all this stuff. You see all

476
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Speaker 1: these guys on both the Super Bowl teams, they were

477
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Speaker 1: just guys. I mean they were undrafted, rookie free agents.

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Speaker 1: They were bumped from this team to that team, that

479
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: team to this team, or they were on this team,

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Speaker 1: then released from that team, then signed back to that team,

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Speaker 1: then released from that team, then signed back to that

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Speaker 1: team's practice squad, activated, and then released. You know, you

483
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Speaker 1: got a ton of guys on both and forty nine

484
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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs that are in that situation. They were

485
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Speaker 1: fifth either like fifth round, sixth round, seventh round, guys

486
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Speaker 1: that were cut brought back whatever, and we're gonna cross

487
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: rom that some of the guys on the Bills team

488
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: to give you an idea of how this, you know,

489
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Speaker 1: Brandon being Sean McDermott have run their thing and where

490
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Speaker 1: the guy where the gems that they found who were contributing.

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Speaker 1: Pretty pretty enlightening, yun. I think it is so cool

492
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Speaker 1: to look at rosters and see where guys were drafted,

493
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Speaker 1: see how they were picked up, see their life in

494
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Speaker 1: the NFL being signed, being cut, being put on the

495
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Speaker 1: practice squad, being activated, and to see how each team

496
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Speaker 1: can make a roster off that, and to find the

497
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Speaker 1: diamond and the rough. And it's so fun to bat

498
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Speaker 1: balance the guys you know as Bills like Okay, he

499
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: was an undrafted Rickie. They look at he's like Levi Wallace, right,

500
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: or Robert Foster. You see, you kind of know him

501
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: and you kind of have some affection for him. You've

502
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 1: seen him do some good things, and you can get

503
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Speaker 1: a little more from them sometimes. But then see what

504
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Speaker 1: those guys are. Then you look across the league and

505
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Speaker 1: you see over there a team that's in the super Bowl.

506
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Speaker 1: They got the same kind of guys, right, they're Robert

507
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Speaker 1: Foster's and Levi Wallace as an undraftie. How are they

508
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Speaker 1: where they find their guys, you know? And to see

509
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Speaker 1: guys like that and balanced the production of our undrafted

510
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Speaker 1: Rickie free agents with guys who are actually in the

511
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and how they contributed, it's it's pretty. It's

512
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Speaker 1: a little enlightening, and also it gives you some optimism

513
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: that you're doing it the right way as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there were players on teams that you played

515
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Speaker 1: on that that had stories like that that were udfas

516
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: or got drafted super late. But we're able to make

517
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Speaker 1: a career out of it and be able to be

518
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Speaker 1: pivotal and key players on teams. They just had to

519
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Speaker 1: find the right team for them. Yeah, I was. I

520
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Speaker 1: was one of those guys. I was. I was so bad.

521
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: I was drafted later than Tom Brady in my year.

522
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Speaker 1: That's how bad I was. No, it was two hundred

523
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Speaker 1: and twenty sixth overall, and there was there was I

524
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Speaker 1: think twelve rounds in the draft. Back then they draft,

525
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Speaker 1: they keep the draft at about two hundred and fifty.

526
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Speaker 1: Guys picked its two hundred fifty two. I think something

527
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Speaker 1: like that. Now, how many times thirty two runs through

528
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Speaker 1: that plus supplemental picks and all of that. They draft

529
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Speaker 1: about two hundred and fifty guys every year. And back then,

530
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Speaker 1: because there was only twenty seven or twenty eight teams,

531
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Speaker 1: there was like two more rounds, or actually it was

532
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Speaker 1: five more rounds. Back then there was like twelve rounds.

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Speaker 1: So I know a guy who coached me here, Charlie Joyner,

534
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: was draft in the seventeenth round back in you know,

535
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: back in the early seventies. You know, so when teams

536
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: got bigger in the draft and the rosters got bigger,

537
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: they drafted more guys. And now it's they keep the

538
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Speaker 1: draft at about seventy two or two hundred fifty guys.

539
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Speaker 1: And and you know, so you know, guys drafted, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the outside the top two hundred. You know, we

541
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: talked a lot about Murph and I talked about it.

542
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: They got five picks in the fifth and sixth round.

543
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: They don't have any seventh round picks, and I you know,

544
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 1: and what's the philosophy gonna be? Yeah, you have they

545
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: have The Bills have nine picks this year in the draft.

546
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Speaker 1: And there's already been talking about how how do you

547
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: approach those nine picks and what do you do? Do

548
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: you need all nine? Are all nine gonna make this

549
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: team because of how talented it is. And that's something

550
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: that Chris Brown got into asking Brandon being about during

551
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: his media availability at Senior Bowl. And it's a great question,

552
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: how you know, because you got a guy like we

553
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: even like Tommy Sweeney, good player, they kind of he

554
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: hung around that, but you know he couldn't get on

555
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: the field and he was a draft pick. Uh, Jaquan Johnson. Uh.

556
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Speaker 1: You know all the guys that they drafted in the sixth,

557
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: seventh round last year fourth Yeah, even some you know,

558
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: all the whole draft class. Some of those guys had

559
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: trouble getting on the field. Now they did some, they

560
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: got played some special teams in that and you'd like

561
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: to think they're developing them. But this draft, you're gonna

562
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: have them. If they take all their picks, they're gonna

563
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: five guys from the sixth round back. Yeah, that's it's

564
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a deep roster. Yeah. I was on that,

565
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: that roster that I went on that went into the

566
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties season before it went to four Super Bowls

567
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: and then after it went to one and two and three.

568
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: It was a really hard roster to break into. We

569
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: we released a lot of great football players that went

570
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: on to other teams, very nice careers other places, because

571
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: there just wasn't room in our in our roster. So

572
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: the Bills are a little bit closer to being like

573
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: that now. I mean they're not there all the way

574
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: because they do have some some spots they're looking to

575
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: fill and upgrade. But you know, it's a much different

576
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: place than they were twelve months ago. Yes, and it's

577
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna be fun to see how they handle it. We're

578
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Speaker 1: gonna get into all of that after we take a

579
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: quick break. We're going to talk about our perfect plan

580
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: for next season. So stick with us. This is One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bills Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

583
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Speaker 1: Maddie glab here with Steve Taskker filling him for Murf.

584
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 1: He has the day off. He's a hard worker, so

585
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: he totally deserves it. Murph got all next week off. Ohca,

586
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: are you going to put him on blast like that? Yeah?

587
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: He'll be all right, Okay, Yeah, it's not like Okay,

588
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: It's not like the local thugs are going to go

589
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: buy his house. He's got a house. His house is stuff.

590
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: Murph is on vacas much deserving. When are when are

591
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: you taking a vaca? Wine? Is playing golf? When are

592
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: you taking vaca? You know, it's it's an interesting question. Um,

593
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Speaker 1: I hope if my wife is listening, we are in

594
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: the process of negotiating what we're what what days we're

595
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna leave, because you know, you have to you have

596
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: to tell. You have to put it out in front, right,

597
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: You gotta out in front of and say, Okay, I'm

598
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: thinking about this week, this week and this week got

599
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: to ask five million people. If it works, you gotta

600
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: run it through. So we gotta We're gonna visit my

601
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: my daughter in Alaska, my family in Kansas, and we've

602
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: also got to go to We're gonna go to Florida. Florida.

603
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: Trip's gonna be quick. I mean those places are all

604
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: so close together, right right, yeah, yeah, hence our problem.

605
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: So we got to coordinate those What time of year

606
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: we're going yet that it yet that all that stuff.

607
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: Plus we've got um obligations here in Western New York

608
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: that we want to be here for particularly in the summertime.

609
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: As Steve Tasker is a very popular man here about me,

610
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: wanting to make sure I hit all the highlights. You know,

611
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: I gotta be here for the summer. Got a music festival. Oh,

612
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: I got a music fest. Music festival. No, I got

613
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: something better. It's Borderland. I got a Borderland every year

614
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: I got and then I got music Fastinia. I got

615
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: Borderland over there. I got the third of July. Yeah,

616
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: so I got things. You got some good and some

617
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Right. Reunion Weekend is later in the fall.

618
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: I got golf tournaments Tuesday, Twilight League golf. You know,

619
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Speaker 1: I gotta get geared up for that. I haven't touched

620
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: my clubs in like six months, which is unprecedented for me.

621
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: I mean I have they're missing me. So and Murph's

622
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: down there playing this week. He's getting warmed up already.

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Speaker 1: He's ahead of you. Well, yeah, let's talk some football,

624
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: all right, Let's get back into this all right. A

625
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: lot a lot ahead for the Bills. So you have

626
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: free agency, you have the draft, we have the Senior

627
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: Bowl going on, so a lot of things that are

628
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: newsworthy right now. We're seeing a lot of mock drafts

629
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Speaker 1: come out and things like that. So I wanted to

630
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Speaker 1: get into the perfect plan for next season. And there's

631
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: a lot of things that go into the perfect plan,

632
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: and probably everybody's perfect plan is a little bit different

633
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: for this team next season. So what is the highest priority?

634
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: What do we do first? Who do you draft? And

635
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: one of my questions was, how do you replace Lorenzo

636
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: Alexander at that SAM linebacker spot? Is that something you

637
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: go after in the draft really high? Is that something

638
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: you look for in free agency? He's a linebacker that

639
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: could definitely add in different ways in the pass rush

640
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: game and things like that. Do you go after somebody

641
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: like that? Do you go after a more conventional SAM linebacker?

642
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Do you go after someone who's not as close to

643
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: what he was able to do? One thing that's gonna

644
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: be hard to fill is how he was a leader

645
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: in the locker room. And I don't think whoever they

646
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: bring in is expected to do that by any way,

647
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: shape or fashion. But on some of these mock drafts

648
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: that are coming out, I have seen outside linebackers linebackers.

649
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: One of them who you touched on a little bit,

650
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: all Edie Steve is that edge outside linebacker Klavon Chasin.

651
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: I believe it's how you stay his last name from LSU. Yeah,

652
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: there's a ton of guys out there. But you know,

653
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: and I think too, you do start when you get

654
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do, how you're gonna handle it?

655
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: You do start with the starters that may or they

656
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: may not be here. Now you know, Lorenzo Alenxander's not

657
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: going to be here. You got a chance at losing

658
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson and Jordan Phillips. Yeah, you have eleven free agents. Yeah,

659
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: you got eleven free agents. You got to weigh their contributions.

660
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander played about fifty percent of the defensive snaps

661
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: this season, but he played a couple of hundred snaps

662
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: of special teams as well. So you don't have to

663
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: replace Lorenzo Alexander with player A. But you could replace

664
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander with play A, B and F, you know

665
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you could get multiple contributions from

666
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: different guys to cover the production of Lorenzo. But you

667
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: are going to have to have somebody that plays those

668
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: fifty percent of those defensive snaps and somebody and another

669
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: player or two players could cover his special team snaps.

670
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: If if you so desire, if you can find guys

671
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: like that, so you gotta start there. You gotta start

672
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: with Shack Lawson and Jordan Phillipson. I think for me,

673
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: this is a playoff team. It's a really tough team

674
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: to beat, and you start with the guys that contributed

675
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: the most, who you who will not be there or

676
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: may not be there. So for me, you're right. Lorenzo Alexander,

677
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: he retired. There's no way he's coming back now. Lorenzo,

678
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Jordan and Shack. You gotta talk to him

679
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: and find out. But if they're not going to be back,

680
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: you gotta go, you know, I go down. There's a list.

681
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: There'll be a list of three dozen d linemen and linebackers,

682
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: and you're looking at if you're watching, you're looking at

683
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: the list right now of all of the free agents

684
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: this year. So you're unrestricted. I'll run on the lists.

685
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: Frank Gore Sonora's Perry Quentin Spain, Ladren Waddle, Shack Lawson,

686
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, Marie Alexander, Julian Stanford. Two linebackers right there,

687
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson, Kurt Coleman. See Marlowe, and then you have

688
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: your restricted free agents. Isam Kenzie your exclusive rights free agents?

689
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: The Robert Foster, Jason Crum, and Levi Wallace. So some

690
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: names in that list of players who definitely added on

691
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: this team in a lot of different ways. Yeah, there's

692
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that contribute on a lot of

693
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: those guys on this list, except for Quentin, Spain, Shack

694
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: and Jordan, a lot of those guys are big time

695
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: Special Teams contributors, and they're you know, you're gonna be

696
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: able to get them back here for probably pretty close

697
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: to what they were making this year, you know. I mean,

698
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: you might give them a raise or a commensurate raise

699
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: with what you think they did, or you know, each

700
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: guy's an individual, So this guy may get more, you know,

701
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: Snorris Perry may get more, and a guy like Leadrian

702
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: Waddle or somebody else might get less because you know,

703
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: you don't know what Leadrin Waddle can bring you, right

704
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: because he didn't play that kind of thing. So there's

705
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: all those individual gives and takes on the on the

706
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: numbers side of it for their contract. But you got

707
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: to replace all of them, and I think you start

708
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: with the guys who contributed the most. And we've we've

709
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: gone round and round about this. Murph and I this

710
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott. Never seemed overpay. No, they

711
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: never overpay. They're a little bit like the like other,

712
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: like the Patriots in that respect. They don't overpay for anybody.

713
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: I just think they're gonna move for really anybody on

714
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: that list to overpay them. That's right, and that's I

715
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: think they're going to stick to their guns. That's what

716
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: they believe in when it comes to the free agent market,

717
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: regardless of the player, right. And I think that's true too.

718
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: I think they'll go out and they'll find guys and

719
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: we listen, we found they got Quentin Spain this last year.

720
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: He was on the out on the free agent market

721
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: for two weeks before he signed with the Bills. Uh

722
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: and so he had a big chip on his shoulder.

723
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Want to prove him and actually did. He didn't give

724
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: up a sack. All you don't have four penalties. I

725
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: mean that guy played room, really liked him, and they

726
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: want him back next year. Same thing with the same

727
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: thing with John Feliciano, a guy who came in and

728
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: gave them an edge and edgy attitude and was highly

729
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: productive at the right guard spot and filled in at

730
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: center when Mitch Morse went down for a minute. So

731
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's some high priority guys that they got

732
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: to get either signed or replaced. And I think that's

733
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: where you start, particularly in this free agent thing coming

734
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: up in the March sixteenth. I believe it starts. March

735
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: eighteenth is when the free agency starts, day after Saint

736
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day. Will remember that now, so you can bet

737
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna And I knew this too, Like coming into

738
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: the last parts of these games, this was a lovable

739
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: team for Bill's family, right they were going to the playoffs,

740
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: you had all this stuff going on. He knew, you know,

741
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff to like about their effort

742
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: and their defense and the way they played and the

743
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: way they liked each other and their their identity. It's

744
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a different group next year. Yeah, there's gonna

745
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: be a lot of new faces next year that we're

746
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to get to know and stuff. And it's

747
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: it's sad, but I always knew this every team every year.

748
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: Although it looks a lot the same to the outside,

749
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: it's very different and you've got and you got to

750
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: get used to it, and that new team starts to

751
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: take shape March eighteenth, you know, and then another question

752
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: is you start looking at the players who are now

753
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: in their third year or entering their fourth year, and

754
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: are you going to extend them or how do you

755
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: approach that situation? Players like Trey White, Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano. Yeah,

756
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: this gets lost too, Dion Dawkins, your left tackle, Tremaine Edmonds,

757
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: who is the Lynch Penny, your entire number two defense

758
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: in the entire National Football League. Matt Milano, who has

759
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: been really productive and a huge guy. He's actually come

760
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: off the page and that two year ago, two years

761
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: ago in that draft where it's like, Wow, who is

762
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: this guy? And now you can't get him off the field.

763
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: They need him. They missed him last year when he

764
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: went down with a busted leg. Just so, the thing

765
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: about that is, and the reason we kind of come

766
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: to that next is you got time with those guys.

767
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: You can kind of get your you can line up

768
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: your economics in order to get those guys signed and

769
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: get them and start talking to them. Certainly, you can

770
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: get it done quick, but there's no reason to like

771
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: put that ahead of some other more urgent and pressing

772
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: matters because of the calendar. Yeah, your calendar here says

773
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: you got a long way. You got a long way

774
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: to the end of their contract to get to it.

775
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: But man, can you imagine not signing those three guys

776
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: And you can't, right, And I think a reason why

777
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills sit where they do with cap space

778
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: and why they're so high up, and Brandon Bean has

779
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: talked about this. They're not going to just go out

780
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: and spend all their money and free agency and all

781
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: their money in the draft. They are saving money for

782
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: the future of resigning a lot of these glue guys.

783
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: When you look to the roster and you look to

784
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: how this team has been built under Brandon Bean and

785
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, they know those big paychecks are going to

786
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: be coming for some of these players and they want

787
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: to make sure that they're able to make those when

788
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: the time comes right. And I so you got so

789
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: you got filling the spots of the stars like Lorenzo,

790
00:38:53,880 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: Alexander Shack, Jordan Phillips, Quentin Spain, those guys. Then you

791
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: got these three guys just at the top of the

792
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: list these three guys that are that you gotta you

793
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: feel like you gotta keep Dion Dawkins, Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano.

794
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: And then you gotta think, what do we really need

795
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: you get what we got a draft coming up. We're

796
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: gonna need a wide receive. We want to get that

797
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: this big playmaker on the other side, So you know

798
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: where does that fall? And take an edge first? Do

799
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: you take an offensive line? Like everybody's talking about how

800
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: thick this this draft is when it comes to wide receivers.

801
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: There's also a lot of great offensive linemen in this draft.

802
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some great edge players that go in

803
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: the first twenty picks, and those go off the board

804
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: so quickly, so you gotta believe if somebody starts falling,

805
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: that's a premium pick, like an edge guy who can

806
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: really go in and make a difference right away. Brandon

807
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: Being and Sean McDermott are definitely going to think about, oh,

808
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: maybe we should take somebody right here. Yeah, And it'll

809
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: depend on what positions are deep, what positions are shallow,

810
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: how many really good guys that if you're gonna take

811
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: a guy as high as a third round you're gonna think,

812
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, that guy's is gonna be he's gonna make

813
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: the club, and he's gonna be active on game days

814
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: for the most part during the season, So it means

815
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be contributing. Which position group has enough guys

816
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: and how many of those guys that will fall into

817
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: that category where you think any of those guys are

818
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: probably gonna make our club and be good enough to

819
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: contribute to us. Which one do we like the best,

820
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: you know? And which one is going to go off

821
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: the board first? And are they gonna are If there's

822
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: only six of those guys and they all go in

823
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: the first two rounds, you don't want to get caught

824
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: needing one in the third round. So how many, how

825
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: deep those each position group goes during this draft is huge.

826
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: And as you said, wide receivers seem to be And

827
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: if you can wait till the second round to get

828
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: a really talented wide receiver, are we gonna be on

829
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: draft of the second day of the draft. We haven't

830
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: taken a wide receiver yet, and we see these guys

831
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: all nuts. If we I don't want to think about it,

832
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: they're going to make the right decisions and the Brandon

833
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: Bean has talked about this a bunch there. When it

834
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: comes to the draft, they're looking at best available at

835
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: that time, whatever rounded, if whatever rounded is, whatever pick

836
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: they have exactly. So Yeah, wide receiver, edge rusher, corner.

837
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: There's even been talk about corners and some of these

838
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: mock drafts Jalen Johnson, those the players we're talking about,

839
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver, edge rusher, whatever, whatever, offensive lineman. I think

840
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: you got to take the draft as its own thing

841
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: and not worry about the needs that we're talking about.

842
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: I think when you talk about the draft, particularly from

843
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: you here three four months away from it, you got

844
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: to think about it as this. You just got to

845
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: get like, hopefully like at least four contributors like he

846
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: did this last year. You need to get four guys,

847
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of them are starters, or at least

848
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: guys who played fifty percent of the snaps on one

849
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: side of the ball of the other, or you know,

850
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: somehow contribute. I think that's the number because we have

851
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: this conversation too. You don't. It's arrogant to think your

852
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: team and your scouting department, your GM and your coaching

853
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: staff are gonna draft so much better than everybody else

854
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: because all the nobody knows everybody knows the exact same things,

855
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: and picking the guys that are going to work for

856
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: you and develop them. It's arrogant to think we know

857
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: something nobody else knows. We may think things nobody else thinks,

858
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: but we don't know things that nobody else knows. So

859
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna get about the same percentage of hitting miss

860
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: guys as everybody else. Now, the other side of that

861
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: coin is the guys that do get picked higher are

862
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: the ones who you know most about because they measure

863
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: You can measure stuff they have. They're big, they're fast,

864
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: they're strong, they're athletic, they come from big programs they've

865
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: been productive, or they come from small programs and they've

866
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: killed it out there, right, so that you know there's

867
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: some like athletically and physically, Okay, we know that guy can.

868
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: So the more high picks you have, obviously, the more

869
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna hit, and the further down you go, this

870
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: percentage just drop about guys like these. This the stuff

871
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: we've been talking about, these undrafted rookie phages that are

872
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl teams. You know, there's some a

873
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: couple of those guys on every team. But what did

874
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: you you know? As it's just a roll of the dice,

875
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: So what do you do? Do you keep all nine

876
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: picks and just say we think that with the percentage,

877
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna have more guys because we have more picks,

878
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: or do we trade and try and get up higher

879
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: to get a higher percentage of hits and misses on

880
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: the guys we actually do pick in the first four rounds.

881
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: Let's see. I don't know. We could talk about all day,

882
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: and we're going to continue to talk about it all

883
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: day every day we are because we have a lot

884
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: of time to talk about it. But we're gonna take

885
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: a break. First. We've got gregko Sell coming about at

886
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: one o'clock, so you don't want to miss that. We'll

887
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: talk about the super Bowl matchup. This is One Bill's

888
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: Drive from One Bill's Live. From One Bill's Drive. This

889
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back into One Bills Live

890
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. Maddie glab here was Steve Tasker

891
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: filling in for Murf Today. Tasker a good job. Tasker

892
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: told everybody that Murph is on vacation, so I guess

893
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 1: the word is out. But We've got a good show.

894
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Greg co Sell's coming up. We're also going to talk

895
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes's trainer later in the show, so that'll

896
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: be awesome to hear what he has to say. Bobby Stroop.

897
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: He's also trained a lot of other players in the NFL,

898
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: trains players who are going to be in the combine.

899
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: He's somebody who also really helped Patrick Mahomes when it

900
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: came to his injury this season, and he says it's

901
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: a reason why he was able to come back from

902
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: that injury so quickly was because of his trainer. He's

903
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: taken and he's trained in a lot of guys leading

904
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: up to the draft. He also trained some current NFL players. Um,

905
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys, you know. He's got a

906
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: nice business down there doing it. And it's interesting, interesting

907
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: because I read some of the stuff that has come

908
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: out about him and they do a lot of functional training,

909
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: really creative stuff. And he works also and he's been

910
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: working with Mahomess Mahomes in the fourth grade, right, So

911
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: it's interesting. He wasn't even ten years old he started

912
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: training with this guy. So uh, and I I wonder

913
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: if I'm kind of like the fourth grade, he was like, Oh,

914
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: this is going to be the quarter he said. He said,

915
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 1: it wasn't until middle school when he started to become

916
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: set apart. And there's so many things. I mean, I

917
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: speak to people all the time, especially little kids and

918
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: sports teams and stuff like that as an old player

919
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: where they ask you to come in and talk to him,

920
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: and and and so many stuff got coming out about

921
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: from this Bobby Stroop about what he has with these

922
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: guys is so about when Patrick Mahomes started to stand out,

923
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: why he stood out, um, and what he feels his

924
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: job one is with young kids training. He says, you

925
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: gotta make it fun for them. And I know this too.

926
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, it was a much different

927
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: atmosphere and different culture back in the sixties early seventies

928
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: when I grew up, it was there weren't that when

929
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: when I grew up, it was in rural America, so

930
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: there weren't like you make your own fun, and so

931
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: there weren't all these opportunities. And really nobody was training

932
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: year round, you know, nobody was on one sport for

933
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: twelve months. And now it's evolved into where these kids

934
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: pick a sport at like six, seven, eight years old.

935
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: Certainly certainly when they're ten or eleven or twelve. Some

936
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: of these kids are completely specialized. And for us, I

937
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, we did every sport baseball, basketball, football, all

938
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: of it, right, and it's a it's a great way

939
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: to It helps the single sport athletes to cross train

940
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: into other sports because it raises your awareness about what's

941
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: important in this sport. Will also help you in this sport,

942
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: and it trains different areas, more so your mind than

943
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: your body. Yeah, how many times have you heard an

944
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: NFL tight end say, oh, I'm able to catch those

945
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: jump balls, or a big wide receiver, I'm able to

946
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: catch those jump balls because I played basketball for a

947
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: lot of my life, right, A lot of guys did that,

948
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: and you get even the guy I played with who

949
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: was an offensive center, can't Hull one of the all

950
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: time great centers in Bill's history. He was a great

951
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: high school basketball player, and I mean played center. He

952
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: was a quarter and at a younger age he was

953
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So you know, they can kind of grew

954
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: out of that position. All of these pro athletes and

955
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 1: all this is as much of the parents as anything.

956
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: If listen, if your kid is not hit like knocking

957
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: to if he's not the absolute best kid on the

958
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: ice or on the court, or on the field, whatever

959
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: field it is, when he's eleven, twelve, thirteen, you know,

960
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: just make sure he's having fun, yeah, because it's he'll

961
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: start to stand out, you know after after that, you know,

962
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: after they get into high school and they get all

963
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: these kids, boys and girls, get through puberty and they

964
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: start to you know, muscle up a little bit, particularly

965
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: the boys. You can tell. And if he's not standing

966
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: out around kids his own age, just make sure he's

967
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: having fun because it's it's all well and good, but

968
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: don't push that kid to be a pro athlete. I mean,

969
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: it's it's a long, long, hard run. There's too many pitfalls,

970
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, just much more content. Sure they're having fun, man,

971
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: sports need to be fun. And a lot of times

972
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: you hear NFL players sometimes when it comes to a

973
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: fun game or something like that, or maybe it's the

974
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl or something like that, and you hear these

975
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: answers from NFL players saying, Oh, it was good to

976
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: have fun again. I really enjoyed having fun again. Work

977
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: it's tough sometimes when it's an every day thing. It

978
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like fun as much. Sometimes that's right. And

979
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure Pat Mahomes has no regrets about his career path.

980
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: And think about it. You got a kid that's in

981
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: the fourth grade and he's training now. He played baseball too,

982
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: so he was a cross a cross sport athlete, which

983
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: kind of keeps it fresh for you as well. But

984
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: man o, man, I even my my kids who were

985
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: like your age, they were there were a couple of

986
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: sports and we had them doing you know, we had

987
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: we're doing everything right. There were a couple of sports

988
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: where they're like, you know what they get, they get eleven, twelve, thirteen,

989
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: They're like, you know what I've had, That's good. I'm done.

990
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm like good. Cool. If you don't want to play anything,

991
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: that's fine too. But you know, the rule has to

992
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: be this too. If you do take up a sport

993
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: and you got you're on a team, you gotta go

994
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: to practice. You don't get to skip the hard part

995
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: in order to go play in the game on it.

996
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta go. You gotta be fully committed.

997
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: But and that was part of the learning process, but

998
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: man oh man, it was you see a lot of

999
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: kids nowadays, and you see even public service announcements are

1000
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: like I've had it. Yeah, I'm done. We'll talk to

1001
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: Bobby's troup later. But coming up next, we're gonna talk

1002
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: to Greg Cosell. He's a senior producer for NFL films.

1003
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to you. Super Bowl matchup a great

1004
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: one between the forty nine ers and the Chiefs, So

1005
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: we'll talk to him next. Stick with us a one

1006
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is the Buffalo

1007
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Colonials Radio Network Sports Shop ding. It's time

1008
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: for the sports update from One Bill's Drive. The twenty

1009
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: twenty NFL Pro Bowl takes place this Sunday at three

1010
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: o'clock on ESPN, where the NFC and AFC will face off.

1011
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: The Bills are represented by three Pro Bowlers this year,

1012
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: cornerback t Davious Why, linebacker Tremaine Edmonds, and wide receiver

1013
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: Andre Roberts. After sixteen seasons in the NFL, all with

1014
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: the Giants, Elimning officially announced his retirement at a press

1015
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: conference this morning. Manning, who had two hundred and thirty

1016
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: four regular season starts in two Super Bowl MVPs, stated

1017
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: he did not seriously consider playing with another team in

1018
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Co owner John Marinota that Manning will always

1019
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: be the Ultimate Giant and the franchise will immediately induct

1020
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: him into the team's Ring of Honor next season and

1021
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: retire eli's number ten. Jersey coach Ed Orgeron and LSU

1022
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: have agreed to a six year contract extension through the

1023
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth season that is valued at more than

1024
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: forty two million. Orzron led the Tigers to a forty

1025
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: two to twenty five win over Clemson in the College

1026
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: Football the Playoff National Championship earlier this month, for the

1027
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: school's first title since two thousand and seven. He was

1028
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: named the winner of the twenty nineteen Paul Bear Bryant

1029
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year Award last week. The NHL All

1030
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: Stars Skills Challenge takes place tonight at eight o'clock. Sabers

1031
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: center Jack Eichel will participate in the NHL Fastest Skater

1032
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: competition in his third appearing at the NHL All Star Weekend.

1033
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: Ichael will play with the Atlantic Division tomorrow at eight

1034
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: fifteen pm against the Metropolitan Division, new this year at

1035
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Honda All Star game. There will be

1036
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: an elite woman's three on three event with the American

1037
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: All Stars facing off against the Canadian All Stars tonight

1038
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: at nine thirty pm. Hockey Hall of Famers Cammi Granado

1039
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: and Jane Hefford will coach the two teams. And now

1040
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: we are joined by Greg Cosell hes NFL Films as

1041
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: senior producer. He's the co host of NFL Matchup on ESPN,

1042
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: and he joins us now to talk about the Super

1043
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: Bowl matchup coming up? Greg, are you doing a lot

1044
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: of preparing as a Miami is just right around the

1045
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: corner here, Maddie, I am. And we actually do our

1046
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Matchup show on site. Well shoot at the

1047
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: day before the game, so unfortunately I will have to

1048
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: be on South Beach. Wait, you shoot the you record

1049
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: the show on Saturday before the Super Bowl? We do indeed?

1050
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh really? So do you do it live? Do you

1051
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: broadcast it live? It's not no, we don't do it live,

1052
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: but we I mean, it's it's what we call live

1053
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: to tape. Steve, you're probably learning all this stuff, right,

1054
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, we shoot it as if it's live, but

1055
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: it's not really live. I know what live to tape means,

1056
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: come on, we were talking to listen, So I'm gonna

1057
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: start out. We'll start out with this matchup thing the

1058
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: Niners and Chiefs. We were we had this conversation. I know,

1059
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: you don't get in too much to personnel and philosophies

1060
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: about roster makeup and stuff, but both of these clubs

1061
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys who were like fifth round

1062
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: or later undrafted, rookie free agents, guys who were kicked

1063
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: to the curb. Moostard is a great example of that.

1064
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: They got guys all scattered through all these rosters, and

1065
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: it makes you think, you know, yeah, the Super Bowl

1066
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: teams did a lot of things right getting to this game,

1067
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: but a lot of other teams are doing a lot

1068
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: of other teams are doing the exact same thing. And

1069
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: the Bills have kind of the same number of guys

1070
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: that are contributing to them. What kind of contribution do

1071
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: you see regularly from guys that are cast offs from

1072
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: other teams? Oh, I mean, I think you do see

1073
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: that throughout the league, just like you often see guys

1074
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: who are later round picks and free agents make contributions.

1075
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: But certainly, I mean, I don't think it's going to

1076
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: change the impact of the draft. I think that a

1077
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: lot of work goes in to the draft and studying

1078
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: college players, and normally, normally it's a percentage thing, Steve,

1079
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: don't you agree that, you know, normally guys who get

1080
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: drafted at high are the guys who are viewed as

1081
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: the better prospects. There's always going to be exceptions for

1082
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: any number of reasons, whether a guy just doesn't have

1083
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: great production in college, whether he's a small school guy,

1084
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: whether he's fought injuries, whether there's character issues when he's

1085
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: a younger player. You know, someone like Mostart if you

1086
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: look at his college numbers. First of all, I don't

1087
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: think he carried the ball one hundred and fifty times

1088
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: in his college career, you know, much less been a

1089
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: big runner, you know, and he was with I think

1090
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: this is his seventh team, if memory serves me correctly.

1091
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 1: But we also know that the Kyle Shanahan run game

1092
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: just like his father's run game, because the methodology and

1093
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: the principles are similar. They've always had backs that were

1094
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: not necessarily first or second round tight backs. Yeah, I

1095
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: think it's really interesting to see. Let's talk about these

1096
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: two teams, how they got there. Let's start with the

1097
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: Chiefs they got by the Tennessee Titans. What did the

1098
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense do to derail the most, you know, the

1099
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: most powerful running game in the league? I mean, and

1100
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: they really got it done. Well, you know, it's funny

1101
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: you say that, And I've been asked that question a

1102
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: lot this week, and really from watching the tape, I

1103
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: don't think that they necessarily stopped Henry. Henry had sixty

1104
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: two yards in the first half, and normally he gets

1105
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: the brunt of his yards in the second half. But

1106
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: because of that final drive at the end of the

1107
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: first half where Mahomes had the great run, and because

1108
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: the Chiefs got the ball to start the third quarter

1109
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: and marched right down the field, and all of a sudden,

1110
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: the game was twenty eight seventeen and the game took

1111
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: on a different kind of feel because of the Chiefs offense.

1112
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: You know, he only carried the ball three times in

1113
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: the second half. So I don't think that the Chiefs

1114
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: necessarily stopped him in the way that I think people think.

1115
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: I think it was just the flow of the game

1116
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: kind of took him out of the game, particularly when

1117
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: the Titans went had to punt after that opening third

1118
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: quarter drive by the Chiefs, because then the whole the

1119
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: game started to feel a little constricted for the Titans.

1120
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: I think that they had to score. When you look

1121
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: into the forty nine ers gap scheme run game that

1122
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: they have, what do you see in that and how

1123
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: do you see most sert like a game that he

1124
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: had last week having so much success and that matching

1125
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: up against the Chiefs defensive front. Well, you know, Maddie,

1126
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: the thing about the Niners last week is that they

1127
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: really had the full Monty in their run game. They

1128
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: had a full menu. They had gap scheme, they had zone,

1129
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: they had trap, they have what we call G scheme

1130
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: where they pulled the guards, they had a windback. I mean,

1131
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: they had a really multiple plate of run game and

1132
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: they did it out of different personnel packages, different formations,

1133
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: different motions, different shifts. And that's what they are. They

1134
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: are really multiple with what they do. And then you

1135
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: add in Samuel who can run reverses. He could also

1136
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: run base runs coming from a different spot in the formation,

1137
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: so their run game is extremely multiple. The one advantage

1138
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs may have is they have an extra

1139
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: week to be able to deal with the fact that

1140
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers line up with a fullback more

1141
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: than any team in the league. See. I think in

1142
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: a normal week of preparation, what the forty nine Ers

1143
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: do with a fullback is a little difficult for teams.

1144
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: But now with an extra week, I think you can

1145
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: probably do a better job. That doesn't mean they'll stop it,

1146
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: but I think theoretically, you know, on paper anyway, on

1147
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: the iPad, anyway, you can be better prepared. Yeah, it

1148
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: comes down to this for me, And this is the

1149
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: sixty four dollar questions, Greg, and this is it all

1150
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: depends on you. I'm going to bet my sixty four

1151
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: dollars that this is going to be like a sixty

1152
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: three to sixty two game. I mean, both these offenses

1153
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: are really good. The Chiefs offense is so good. I

1154
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: know that. I know the forty nine Er defense is phenomenal.

1155
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's really stellar and athletic. But the Chiefs

1156
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: offense is just unbelievable, particularly with the guy pulling the trigger,

1157
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: and the forty nine Ers do so many things and

1158
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: do all of those things really really well. I think

1159
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: this has got a chance to be one of those

1160
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: track meet of a Super Bowl. And you know, I

1161
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: think that's what it looks like to me. Well, you know,

1162
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: it's funny you say that, because you look at that

1163
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense and they just have so much speed. And

1164
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: I guess, with all due apologies to Richard Sherman, I'm

1165
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: not sure that that the forty nine ers can match

1166
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: up on the back end. I think they're front we

1167
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: all know it's really good. They do a lot of

1168
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: good things when they get to their nickel front, you know,

1169
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: with stunts, with pressures. In fact, they blitz a lot

1170
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: more on third down than people might think. But I

1171
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: just don't know if they can hold up on the

1172
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: back end. They continue to play as much man coverage

1173
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: as they played over the last month or six weeks.

1174
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out that's why they play, but

1175
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: I would think they're going to have to play more

1176
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: zone coverage. I just don't think they can match up

1177
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: on the perimeter to the Chiefs receivers. Are they good

1178
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: enough upfront? And we've been talking about this in this show,

1179
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: Mattie and I. Can the Niners get pressure quickly with

1180
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: just four guys? I mean, they've shown the ability to

1181
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: do that through much of the season. The wild card

1182
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: of course, as Mahomes is now healthy and he's got

1183
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: tremendous secondary action movement ability and obviously he can make

1184
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: great throws when he moves. And he's also now because

1185
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: he's healthy, shown the ability to make some runs that

1186
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: have been critical in these last two weeks. You know,

1187
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: it's funny you look at that sort of turning point

1188
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: run that he had at the end of the first

1189
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: half that was actually really well defensed. The Titans had

1190
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: had bracketed double coverage on both Hill and Kelsey, and

1191
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: they had a linebacker, really athletic linebacker or Shaan Evans

1192
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: as a spot and he was really in perfect position

1193
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: to tackle Mahomes for a three yard loss, and Mahomes

1194
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: just got by him. So they actually tactically had that

1195
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: really well defensed, right, and that the hesitation moved by

1196
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes to get to the edge. Finally, I mean, if

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01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: you're if you're the defensive coordinator for the Titans, you're sitting,

1198
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: that's what makes you throw your headset down, right. I mean,

1199
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: you can have the bright defense called and it's not

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01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: good enough, and may and maybe say a few words

1201
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: that we're not going to say now, right und percent, right,

1202
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that was actually a really good defense. You know,

1203
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: it's funny the Titans took the approach and I'm sure

1204
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: people got upset if you're a Titans fan at times,

1205
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: but they took the approach that we're going to play

1206
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: predominantly z own coverage. We're gonna keep everything in front

1207
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 1: of us, we're gonna rush three and four, and we're

1208
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: gonna make the Chiefs have to take a lot of

1209
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: plays to score. And that also fits in with their

1210
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: offensive philosophy of shortening the game. They tried to shorten

1211
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: the game Steve and Maddy on both sides of the ball.

1212
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: And you know the problem is is the Chiefs still

1213
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: get the ball. You know, the shorten the game thing

1214
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: works fine when when we're discussing it, you know, as

1215
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: if we're in college and it's a seminar. But the

1216
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: Chiefs still got the ball, and they scored touchdowns on

1217
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: four out of five possessions at one point, so right there,

1218
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: that's twenty eight points, and of course they ended with

1219
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: thirty five. When we look at the forty nine Ers

1220
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: and their offense and their run game two hundred and

1221
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: eighty five rushing yards last week against the Packers, and

1222
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: you think about how the Chiefs defense is going to

1223
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: build their scheme for this game. They're gonna want to

1224
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: make Jimmy Garoppolo throw. He was six of eight only

1225
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: through eight times in that game against Packers, really didn't

1226
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: need to. But you gotta think this Chiefs defense is

1227
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: getting ready to make and force Jimmy Garoppolo to throw.

1228
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,959
Speaker 1: Is Jimmy g ready to throw the ball as much

1229
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: as the Chiefs might want to force him to. Well,

1230
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, Maddie, it's funny and I could be dead

1231
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: wrong because obviously we don't know what happens until we

1232
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: see it. But it would not surprise me because Kyle

1233
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: Shanahan is Yes, the run game is the foundation of

1234
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: how they go about it, but he's not one of

1235
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: those I'm just going to run the ball coaches. I

1236
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: think he's aggressive by nature, and it would not surprise

1237
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 1: me if he comes out with play action early because

1238
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: they don't have to establish the run. Steve, you know this,

1239
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: The run's already established. They don't have to establish it

1240
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: in the game, So it wouldn't surprise me if he

1241
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: comes out aggressively on early downs first down, second and six.

1242
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: If they get to that second and four and throw

1243
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: the ball by choice, and they do it off play action.

1244
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: Because one thing I think that Shanahan is really good at,

1245
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: particularly when teams play zone, is he really is good

1246
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: at attacking the conflict defender, the defenders that have both

1247
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: run and pass responsibilities, and I would not be surprised

1248
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: if he's aggressive early. How good athletes do the Niners

1249
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: have outside to the Chiefs. I mean you're saying, I

1250
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: guess you're saying that you anticipate the Chiefs are gonna

1251
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: play zone behind in the back end of their defense.

1252
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: Do they match up athletically the chief secondary against the

1253
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: Niners plays well. I think they'll play both. Steve Specnol

1254
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: has played both. So it's pretty much, you know, whatever

1255
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: he decides in a given situation, and we don't know

1256
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: the answer to that, but they will play his own.

1257
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: They're not They're not a pure man team by any means,

1258
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: so they will play his own. And I think that,

1259
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: first of all. What that's the other thing that I

1260
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: think Coyle Shanahan's really good at is he studies defenses

1261
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: so well and in such detail that he's not guessing

1262
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: what a defense will play in a given situation. He

1263
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: feels pretty confident based on percentages that he knows what

1264
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: he's going to get. Defensively, Now, you're always going to

1265
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: be surprised here, and they are because obviously defensive coaches

1266
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: get paid too. But you know, I don't think. I

1267
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: think that for the most part, he'll have a pretty

1268
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: good sense of what he's going to get and he'll

1269
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: attack that. I'm getting the feeling that even though we've

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Speaker 1: seen both these teams play what eighteen games so far

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Speaker 1: in this season, yeah, they're still I guess maybe it's

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Speaker 1: something also this is their identity, but they both teams

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01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: have the ability to beat you multiple ways. Offensively, I

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01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: don't know that they can beat you. I mean, the

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01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: Niners can beat you with pressure, I guess defensively, but offensively,

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01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: both these clubs, you know, and particularly the Chiefs lately,

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Speaker 1: can run the ball. Obviously the Niners can run the ball.

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Speaker 1: But I think they found all of these things and

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Speaker 1: they've all helped them get to the Super Bowl or

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Speaker 1: any of them a little bit undependable even at this point. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs run game becomes a function of

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Speaker 1: the game. In other words, I don't think they come

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Speaker 1: out to run it per se. Like last week, they

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01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: started to run the ball in the third quarter and

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter when the game dictated that now they'll run

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Speaker 1: the ball. I'm not saying they won't hand it off

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Speaker 1: at all, but I don't think they view their offense

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Speaker 1: as hey, the run game sets things up. I think

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Speaker 1: the run game is, hey, they call some run plays. Now.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm simplifying, and maybe if A and the Reid

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01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: was listening, he would tell me I'm nuts. But I

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01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: think their run game is more we're gonna call some

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Speaker 1: running plays as opposed to it works in tandem with

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Speaker 1: everything else they do. I think, for the most part

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01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are a passing team. Right. What makes

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes such an elite quarterback from how you've watched

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Speaker 1: games and studied film this season, Well, you have to

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01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: start with the way he throws It's he's a super

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01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: freak thrower, Matty. Not many guys throw the ball like that,

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01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: And the quarterback position in the NFL still starts with

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01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: the way a guy throws it. And he's a great

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01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: great throwers. He can throw with a velocity, he can

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01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: throw it touch, he can throw from as we say,

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: different platforms. He can throw it from the pocket. He

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01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: can throw it well on the move. His ball placement

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01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: is very very good. You don't see him miss too

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01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: many throws. Where you go, Man, he missed that one.

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01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean every quarterback does on occasion. But his ball

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01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: placement is usually very precise. So as a passer, there's

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Speaker 1: really nothing he's missing. And then you add in the

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Speaker 1: movement element, the second reaction ability, you know he's just

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01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: got a knack. Because there are times he kind of

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01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: plays the game loose and you almost feel like he's undisciplined,

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: but then he may plays that way. There's a playmaking

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: dimension to his game. So you know, at this point

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01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: he's pretty much got all the traits and attributes you

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: look for. And I think one of the things about

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and Andy Reid probably knew this as he

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01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: watched him develop over his first year behind Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: and has watched him throughout his career. They put guys

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Speaker 1: around him, guys like Tyree Hill, all these they've got

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01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: and if you're going to give them a personality, man,

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01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: they are fast, I mean fast everywhere, and that's really

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Speaker 1: the weapon that makes this Chief's offense. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: I mean you gotta watch it. I mean it's like

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Speaker 1: you can't take your eyes off it. They are so fast,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the things that you

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Speaker 1: have to think that's the most difficult part to defend

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Speaker 1: about this offense. They throw it around all the time.

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01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: Mahomes is always getting more time to throw it, and

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Speaker 1: they got guys that you just can't run with. Is

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Speaker 1: that a fair assessment that the speed may be the

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Speaker 1: one thing that the Niners have the most trouble defending. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why I think they'll have to play his own

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Speaker 1: And look, you know from your experience a players, do

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01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: you look what happened in Buffalo when James Lofton got there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, speed changes everything about your offense, especially if

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Speaker 1: you throw it a lot. I mean, now they've got

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01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: they've got Hill, They've got Hardman. You know, Watkins is

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01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: kind of a forgotten guy and he can run. So

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Speaker 1: they really have three guys that can get over the

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Speaker 1: top of your defense. And you know, that's a tough

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01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: deal that I think that changes the way you defend them,

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01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: and they know that. And then you have Kelsey who

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01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: has a vertical element as a tight end, and Kelsey

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01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: can line up as the single receiver to the short

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Speaker 1: side of the field and be really really effective. He

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Speaker 1: can be certainly can beat linebackers, he can beat safeties.

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01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: They even like him when that when a corner's out

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: there against him. You'll see in this game the Kelsey

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: Sherman matchup. Believe me, that'll happen on the outside. So

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Speaker 1: you know you're one hundred percent right. Just the speed

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01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: element changes everything about the game. Yeah, the two tight

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01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: ends in this game, you have George Kittle and Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: How are these two Titans kind of embodying what you

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01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: want in a tight end in the league now nowadays

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01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: guys who can block but also be great pass catchers

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Speaker 1: and make a big impact when it comes to getting

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Speaker 1: into the end zone. Well, Maddie Kittle is clearly the

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Speaker 1: better blocker, and he's a great blocker, and he's so

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Speaker 1: critical to what they do. I think we charted last

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Speaker 1: week that Mostard had twenty nine runs and I think

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Speaker 1: either eighteen or nineteen of them one to the side

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Speaker 1: of Kittle. Wow, and Steve. You notice when you have

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Speaker 1: a tight end who can one on one block either

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Speaker 1: a defensive end in a four to three or an

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker in a three to four that really opens

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: up your run game and gives you a lot of options.

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Speaker 1: And Kittle may be the best in the league at

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Speaker 1: being able to handle defensive ends and then getting up

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Speaker 1: to linebackers who were seeing it right here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is an unbelievable block. That's a stacked linebacker. Look

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01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: at that. I mean he moved the guy twenty yards

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Speaker 1: down the field. So, you know, I think Kittle is

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Speaker 1: a really important piece of what they do because it

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01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: really allows their run game to have so many options.

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01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to generalize, but there is it

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: any coincidence that maybe the two best tight ends in

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01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: the NFL are both on the Super Bowl teams for

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01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: their respective conferences. Yeah, I mean that's hard to make

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01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: an overriding statement that, hey, these two teams are in

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01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl because of their tight ends. But I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I think when you have tight ends, and by the way,

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01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: both of them are give you vertical important piece. You know,

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01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: there's there's other good tight ends, but they're more eight

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01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: to twelve yard type receivers, you know. I think what

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01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: separates these guys And we just talked about Kittle's ability

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01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: to block, But both Kittle and Kelsey are tight ends

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01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: that can get vertical. They certainly can work the intermediate

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Speaker 1: levels exceptionally well. And Kelsey is a guy he's a

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01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: matchup piece because, as I said, you can line him

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: up as a single receiver to the boundary and he

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01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: can run vertical routes. I mean there are a number

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01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: of plays this year he beat safeties on vertical routes.

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01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: From a perspective of the Chiefs defense and how you've

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01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: seen this defense kind of turn it around this season,

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01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: especially in the later half of the season, some of

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01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: those stats that they were able to put up. How

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Speaker 1: important is tyront Tyrn Matthew to what this Chief's defense

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01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: has been able to do, being able to move him

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01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: into the slot more this season, and just the effect

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: that he's had on this defense when it comes to

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01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: shutting teams out well, Maddie, He's very versatile, and their

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01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: secondary now has great versatility with Fuller as well, because

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01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: Matthew and Fuller can both play over the slot, they

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: can both play safety. Matthew is also really good against

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01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: the run. He's a really good blitzer. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: as versatile a player as there is and that's critical.

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Speaker 1: I'm really anxious to see when they do play man

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01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: who they match up to Kittle, because during the course

1411
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: of the season they would often match up Sorensen to

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Speaker 1: the tight end when they went to their five defensive

1413
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: back Nickel or their six defensive Backdime. You know, hey,

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01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: they know their players better than I but I'd be

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Speaker 1: hard pressed to think that Sorenson will be the matchup

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Speaker 1: on Kittle when they go man coverage. I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be Matthew or full right. It'll be a

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Speaker 1: great matchup. Greg. Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any shows this week or is that

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Speaker 1: all happening next week? It's it's all happening next week, Maddy.

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01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, we take this week off and then we

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: do the Super Bowl matchup show live to tape. I'll

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Speaker 1: be looking for it. Yeah, it'll be awesome. Thank you.

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01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: There you go. Thanks great, appreciate it. We're gonna take

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01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: a quick break, but when we come back, we're gonna

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01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: do some What's for lunch? All right? Are you ready

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01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: for that? So ready, let's go. All right, One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. We will be right back.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back into One Bills

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01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. Mattie glab here fill in

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01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: for John Murphy alongside my buddy Steve Tasker. It's Friday.

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01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 1: The vibes are good almost the weekend, although I wish

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01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: we were playing in two weeks. But we got a

1434
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: few guys in the Pro Bowl, so that's good. That's exciting. Play. Yeah,

1435
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: we got guys playing this weekend. Maybe maybe next year

1436
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: we'll be preparing for a big game. We'll have zero

1437
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: guys playing next year after going. I wouldn't be too

1438
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, we'll see. Well, it's time for some

1439
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: what's for lunch? About lunchtime? I'm hungry. Let's get into

1440
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: some pretty good time already. Where we caught one from

1441
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: each column. Cho's what you want on the menu? Let's

1442
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: see would you rather have? Go ahead? Andy Reid does

1443
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: or does not need a Super Bowl to get into

1444
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame? Does every coach who's in the

1445
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame have a Super Bowl of the modern era?

1446
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, of course, something I'm saying I would No,

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01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: He's oh, yeah, he's been to a Super Bowl. Andy

1448
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: Reid has been to a Super Bowl. And he's been

1449
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: a CHAMPIONI year, I would say no. No, I would

1450
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: say no, because he's got too many wins all time.

1451
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: He's done too many good things and things that are

1452
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: a lot of guys have not been able to do.

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: He built at the Philadelphia the Eagles franchise up when

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01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: he took over. I don't know if you know this,

1455
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: probably before your time, but the Eagles franchise was an

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01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 1: absolute laughing stock when he took over. And he got

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01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: him to four or maybe four out of five or

1458
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: five out of six NFC championship games, and he went

1459
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: to one Super Bowl and lost. It built that organization

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01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 1: up into a contender. A consistent contender comes to Kansas

1461
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: City and does the exact same thing, and that's really

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01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: difficult to do. Certainly, you can say, well, he doesn't

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01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: have what it takes to get over him, but that

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01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: in and of itself, to me makes him a Hall

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: of Fame worthy. Yeah. I think he's Hall of Fame worthy.

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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: I think he's a great coach. He also spent some

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: time at my alma mater, Missouri. He was the offensive

1468
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: line coach there from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 1: Fun fact of the day. There you go. Fun fact

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Speaker 1: of the day. Yeah, better postseason performer Terry Bradshaw or

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana. I thought about this. I think it's Joe Montana. Okay,

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01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw was it was a little bit different there

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01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: ten years earlier than Joe Montana. But I will say

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01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,480
Speaker 1: Joe Montana because I think Joe was a larger contributor

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01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: in the big moments than Terry was. Certainly you can

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01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: make a case for the mac reception, but it was

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01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: a kind of a desperation, last minute thing. Terry Bradshaw

1478
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: was a great quarterback, Don't get me wrong. We were

1479
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, two really Hall of Fame guys

1480
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: and worthy of it. But I think in the crunch time,

1481
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: I think Joe Montana gets more credit for what for

1482
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: his contributions in those moments in the big games than

1483
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: Terry did. And that's why I would give Joe the nod. There, Yep.

1484
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 1: If Tom Brady leaves should the page? You got to

1485
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: pick something too? I feel like your answer is better

1486
01:14:55,200 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: than mine. You're my new favorite co all right? Go ahead?

1487
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: If Tom Brady heads out, should the Patriots tank for

1488
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence? I don't know, but it would. It would

1489
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: sure be cool to see if the Patriots could tank.

1490
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: Can can they even tank? Like? Is that possible? Yeah?

1491
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how they would. I don't think they would.

1492
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think they can't either. Here's

1493
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: the thing. I don't think they need to tank for Trevor,

1494
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: so I would say, no, that's an organization that does

1495
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: things very well. They're gonna be I don't want to

1496
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: say fine. I don't want to see great. I don't

1497
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: want to see even. I don't want to even come

1498
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 1: close to saying they're gonna be better. But they're gonna

1499
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 1: be good, a good football team. With Tom Brady or

1500
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: without Tom Brady. They're gonna It'll be a bump in

1501
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: the road when Tom Brady leaves, but that's it. Tom

1502
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: was the great, one of the great quarterbacks of all time,

1503
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,799
Speaker 1: no question about it. But that franchise is way bigger

1504
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: than any one person. Well one person may not be

1505
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: bigger than is Bill Belichick, but he's not leaving. He

1506
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: told I think they're No, they don't need a tank.

1507
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: They everybody thinks, oh they had such a bad year.

1508
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: Now they won twelve games. They're fine, just relax. You know,

1509
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: they won twelve games with a putrid offense and a

1510
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: forty two year old quarterback. At what they were able

1511
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: to do, their defense was so going to be fine.

1512
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: They don't need a tank for anything. Yeah, or anybody

1513
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: I agree. I was watching NFL Network's Senior Bowl coverage

1514
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: because we just have it on the office of course

1515
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: every day, and I can't remember who it was was

1516
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 1: saying this, but that Bill Belichick probably hasn't been to

1517
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: a Senior Bowl in quite some time because he's been

1518
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: preparing for the Super Bowls regularly. Probably doesn't have a

1519
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: favorite restaurant. So he's at the Senior Bowl and they

1520
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: cut to a clip of him right next to h

1521
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: Sabin from Alabama, and I think the guy on the

1522
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: broadcast just talking about Bill Belichick has got to love

1523
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: be able to love this opportunity. Yes, he wants to

1524
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: be in a super Bowl, but he's got to be

1525
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: licking his chops at the opportunity to go see some

1526
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: of this talent right now the Super Bowl and not

1527
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: have to jump on in the combine. He gets to

1528
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: get ahead early in the Senior Bowl. And for a

1529
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: lot of these coaches, this is the time where they

1530
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: start picking up that scouting trail is with the Senior Bowl,

1531
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: the East West Shrine Game, things like that. So who knows,

1532
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: he could be picking out some guys that some other

1533
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: coaches may not think of because who is he. He's

1534
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. It's interesting. It would be interesting to see

1535
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: how he feels about it. I mean, certainly that he wants,

1536
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: which he could playing, but some at some level, it's

1537
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: gotta be like going, Okay, we're gonna you know, it's

1538
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: gonna help us another you know, we're gonna be able

1539
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: to get a head start on this. And it's like

1540
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: you got to find a you know, favorite restaurant in Mobile, right,

1541
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: so he probably doesn't even have one. He hasn't been

1542
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: there so long. So yeah, that's that's pretty good. So

1543
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm with you. They they're not gonna tank for anybody

1544
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: Saints quarterback in twenty twenty put on your into the

1545
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: future glasses, Taysom Hill or Drew Brees. Listen. I'd like

1546
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill as much as anybody, but that's no, that's

1547
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: no question. If you've got it's gonna be Drew Brees.

1548
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they're yeah, Taysom Hill is not going to

1549
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: be I know that. Yeah, Drew Brees gonna be Drew

1550
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: Brees or maybe somebody else, but not I don't think

1551
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: it'll be Taysom Hill. It'll be Drew Brees. He's still

1552
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: he's still such a great quarterback. Look at what he

1553
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: was able to do this year. Yes, he did spend

1554
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: some time not playing this past season, but he's still

1555
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: a great quarterback. Yeah, Kyler Murray should or should not

1556
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: be a two sport athlete. I would say it should

1557
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: not be. Yeah, how come if you're a quarterback on

1558
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: an NFL team, it's one thing that back in the

1559
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: day that that Bo Jackson and Drew Brees and Drew

1560
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: bo Jackson and Dion Sanders did it. Um. Yeah, Kyler,

1561
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: if you're the quarterback of an NFL team, you've got

1562
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: higher expect and higher expectation level on and off the

1563
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 1: field and in the offseason than other athletes do. And

1564
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: the time commitment that it would take to go play

1565
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: at that level with a with a baseball team. I

1566
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: assume they're talking about baseball. Yeah, it's just too great

1567
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: and it would really be a detriment to his ability

1568
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: to continue playing football at a high level. I think yeah.

1569
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: I think there's yeah. I completely agree with that. I

1570
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: think now with where the game's at and how much

1571
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: it's on your body and just how much you have

1572
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: to continuously work at it even when you're in the offseason,

1573
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: there's really no time to play baseball if you're the

1574
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,839
Speaker 1: quarterback of an NFL team, And maybe after his career

1575
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,799
Speaker 1: is done, who knows, he could go over to baseball.

1576
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a game where you may have a

1577
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: longer career than what you're going to be a quarterback,

1578
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna be. Do you think it works out

1579
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: for him? Do you think he'll be a quarterback for

1580
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: a long time in the NFL? You'll get through this

1581
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: first contract. We'll see. They played better this year than

1582
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: they did a year ago with him at quarterback, but

1583
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: the roster is better as well. That's true. Um, I

1584
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you. I never watched the guy

1585
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: play paying attention to the Cardinals. I know this. He's short. Yeah,

1586
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: he is tiny, pretty fast, but he's you know, and

1587
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a difference that'll make.

1588
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: We've seen, We've we here in Buffalo saw Doug flut

1589
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: flute do it but the guy can really scoot and

1590
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: he's got a live arm. His arm is for real,

1591
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: so he's got an NFL arm and NFL legs. But

1592
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just you know if you're gonna

1593
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 1: I think he will. He's gonna get through his rookie contract.

1594
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: And I'll bet you depending on how the rest of

1595
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: the team plays and how Cliff Kingsbury does with that

1596
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: offense and the style they play, and if it takes

1597
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: off and they get some success, yes, Kyle Murray will

1598
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: see another contract. Better tight end George Kittle or Travis Kelsey,

1599
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: both of which are playing in the Super Bowl coming up.

1600
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: I'll say Kittle just because of his blocking ability. We

1601
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: had Greg Cosell on he raved about it. You can

1602
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: see the highlights. I mean, George Kittle can blow guys

1603
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: off the field and he can block big guys, so

1604
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: that gives him the edge. Kelsey I like, and you

1605
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: saw it in the championship game. I like Kelsey because

1606
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: of his quick reaction catches. Uh. Pat Mahomes will come

1607
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 1: running out and they'll be standing fifteen feet apart, and

1608
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 1: Mahomes will give him one quick look. He'll give them

1609
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: a quick look and flip it to him fast with

1610
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: some of the velocity, and Kelsey can grab it, he

1611
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: can move, can catch it, he can you know, it's

1612
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: like a ball reaction drill. He'll catch it and fall

1613
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: into the end zone or be in the end zone,

1614
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: catch it and covered up. That's really difficult to do.

1615
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: I love that about Kelsey and I don't think there's

1616
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 1: too many guys that can do that, and there's of

1617
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: course there's not very many quarterbacks who could put him

1618
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: in that position to do that. But I like both

1619
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: these guys. They and one of the other attributes. They

1620
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: both get vertical as well as Greg Cosell told us too.

1621
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: But I think Kelsey has the edge because of his

1622
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: physical the physical nature he has in the run game.

1623
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: Which one would you rather have on the bills? Which

1624
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,839
Speaker 1: which qualities do you think at He'll take the blocking

1625
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: especially with our quarterback. Yeah, I think that could add

1626
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: a lot to this game. And hopefully Dawson Ox is

1627
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: somebody who can grow into a role like that as

1628
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: he's learning and growing in the blocking game. Best Best

1629
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen offseason move forty nine Ers drafting Bosa or

1630
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: Chiefs defensive makeover. I'll say the Chiefs makeover. I think

1631
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: it's harder to get eleven guys or fifteen guys on

1632
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: the defensive side to play better. And the reason I

1633
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: say fifteen is because of the personnel packages they move

1634
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: in and now I think it's harder to get a defense,

1635
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: entire defense to play better, rather than just drafting one

1636
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,839
Speaker 1: guy and plugging him in. Yeah, the Niners were already

1637
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: very good up front, like Bosa is just one more

1638
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: elite athlete, first round talent physically to get in there.

1639
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say the Chiefs. Yeah. I think what

1640
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have been able to do this past season

1641
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: from a defensive perspective has been quite amazing. And some

1642
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: of the numbers that they've put up in the second

1643
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: half of the season. At one point, I think there

1644
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 1: was a four game span where they were allowing six

1645
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: point four points a game. That is insane. If you're

1646
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: able to do that from a defense who wasn't too

1647
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: great the year before to something that has been able

1648
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 1: to come together in this last season with a really

1649
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: great offense. I mean, they're doing it on both ends.

1650
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: It's amazing to watch that team play. Worst twenty nineteen

1651
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: offseason moves Brown's hiring Freddie Kitchens or teams adding Antonio Brown.

1652
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Freddie Kitchens, Freddie Kitchens head coach. And

1653
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: you can always just cut Antonio Brown. But yeah, and

1654
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: you could. I guess you could fire Freddie Kitchens any

1655
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: time you wanted to. But man, you fire a head coach,

1656
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 1: everything everything gets thrown up. So I'm gonna say, Freddie Kitchens,

1657
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: hiring a guy at that level of your organization and

1658
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 1: missing that badly on him is inexcusable. And so I'm

1659
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: gonna say, Freddie Kitchens, I think we're in the same

1660
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: boat on that one. You can get rid of Antonio Brown,

1661
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: and he was gotten rid of. He's on the NFL

1662
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: right now. But Freddie Kitchens, you're hiring a coach who

1663
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 1: was never a head coach before, who is a coordinator before,

1664
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: and really didn't have that long list of this is

1665
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: where he came from. This is what I've done. Somebody

1666
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 1: who came from the SEC side of things in college

1667
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: football and worked his way up into the NFL. I

1668
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: think that was not the best. And here's the thing

1669
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: that they Freddy had happened for Freddy Kitchens. He was

1670
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks coach for a rookie quarterback, and they create

1671
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: this bond and stuff. Then the coordinator gets fired, and

1672
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: then the offensive coordinator gets fired. The coordinator gets fired

1673
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: and then the offensive coordinator, and then the head coach

1674
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: gets fired. So both those guys are gone. Freddy Kitchen

1675
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,759
Speaker 1: elevates to the coordinator spot under Greg Williams as head coach,

1676
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: and they start putting it together and Freddie Kitchen he

1677
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 1: says this, and we're gonna go like this, and we're

1678
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: gonna you know, so a young quarterback who is in

1679
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: his first year and it's all moving fast for him

1680
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: gives the guy a vote of confidence and the entire

1681
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: organization is like, yeah, okay, that's what we need. That's

1682
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: a big mistake. That's a big mistake because if you

1683
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: get the right guy out on who is available, if

1684
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Speaker 1: you interview, go through the interview process, talk to a

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01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: bunch of guys, and you and you got to know

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01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: there's a more than one or two guys out there

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01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: that would make Baker Mayfield feel the same way about

1688
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: them that he feels about Freddie k and Fansky, the

1689
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: guy who is now their head coach, they interviewed him

1690
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: last year and he was a favorite last year, right,

1691
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: they passed up on him for Freddie Kitchens, So I

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01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: get it, but I think that was I think that

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01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: was a mistake. And and you know, every team hires

1694
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: whoever they fire obviously was the wrong guy, unless it's

1695
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: been one of those you know, I mean most teams,

1696
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 1: there's always between five and eight guys who get fired

1697
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: every year, every offseason. And I don't know that all

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01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 1: those firings are because they hired the wrong guy, or

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01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: if there are other extenuating circumstances. The roster never got

1700
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 1: better and he never got the most out of it

1701
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: or whatever. You can always say that every team does that,

1702
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: and they do. But it feels like more people saw

1703
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: this coming than the Browns did. Yeah, definitely, Well that

1704
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 1: is what's for lunch. Still a lot to come ahead,

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01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 1: a lot more fun. We've got what an hour an

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01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: hour left? More than an hour three. We'll be here

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01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: to three. Don't go anywhere. It's One Bills Live from

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01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is the Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,759
Speaker 1: back into one Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. Maddie Glabs,

1710
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,839
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here. Hey, if you want to get involved

1711
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: in the conversation. We've got a cool Twitter poll going on.

1712
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: Give us three things the Bills must do this offseason.

1713
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: If you have some advice, or if you want to

1714
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: let us know what you think, go ahead and give

1715
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: us a call. Eight oh three oh fifty five zero.

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01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 1: We would love to take your call and chat. When

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01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: you say that wrong, he said zero fifty five zero

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01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 1: or something like that, what'd you say? Come on? It

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01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 1: says it on this tree first time, first time, fifty

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01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: five eight three fifty five. So we got all right,

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01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 1: oh five yeah, right, okay, I really was all right.

1722
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: We've got some people have given us three things that

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01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: Bill's got to do this offseason. From Josh, he says this,

1724
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: find the tools necessary to establish a consistent and efficient

1725
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: screen game. A speedy edge rusher, rusher that can get home,

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01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: and a Randy Moss type talent wide receiver. Oh there

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01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 1: you go. I like those. That's very concise and to

1728
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 1: the point. YEA. From Kyle, he says one a star

1729
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver, two a second running back. Three upgrade to

1730
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 1: the defensive line. All right, I sign off on all that. Yeah,

1731
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean they're not going to stop it, just that,

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01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, all these things are you can pick the

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01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: three you want, um, but there's more than three, yeah, right,

1734
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that's a beautiful thing about it.

1735
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: Like this Buffalo Bill's team is at such a good

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01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: place right now with what they were able to do

1737
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: last season. They're not losing a lot. Yes, there's quite

1738
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: a bit of free agents, but you have to believe

1739
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: that some of those who made a big impact will

1740
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: hopefully come back if Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean want

1741
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: them back, and if they want to be back as well,

1742
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: depending on what other teams think of them. And then

1743
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: you go into the draft and there's so many options

1744
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 1: that you can do and it's not like they're in

1745
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: a place where they were at last year where you

1746
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: go into the draft and you have to fill a lot,

1747
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: or you go in free agency, you know, we have

1748
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: to fix our offensive line. This team was able to

1749
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,839
Speaker 1: get to a really good place last year in free agency,

1750
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,759
Speaker 1: in the draft, whereas in this year you can fix

1751
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of things, you can add to the depth,

1752
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: and you can keep growing and keep getting better. And

1753
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: I think that makes this year's draft, this year's free

1754
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: agency so much more exciting because you know that the talent,

1755
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: and the foundation is already there. It's gonna be interesting

1756
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: too when training camp rolls around. You gotta say, well,

1757
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: you know, we got these guys and we're pretty good

1758
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 1: last year. Ye, so you know, you gotta be pretty

1759
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 1: good to get any pretty good to turn people's heads now.

1760
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: And you got to hope also that word is out

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01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: about the culture here and that guys enjoy playing here

1762
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: and that it's a good culture. Your teammates are your friends.

1763
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: A lot of NFL teams you may not hang out

1764
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: outside of the building, but these players actually did that

1765
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: this past season, and I hope that follows into next season.

1766
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Like you were saying, every season is different. But you

1767
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: have this great culture that Sea mcdermot's putting place in,

1768
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean's put in place, and then you have this

1769
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: sports center that they have remade. When it comes to

1770
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: working out, when it comes to the science part of

1771
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 1: the game, when it comes to rehab, things that you

1772
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 1: may have to go off site to do, these players

1773
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: don't have to do because it's right in their backyard.

1774
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: Would be interesting to see what when they do sign

1775
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: free agents, particularly veteran free agents, asking them, you know,

1776
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: what'd you hear about this culture before you got here.

1777
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: What'd you hear about the way they treat players? What

1778
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: you think about it? And we heard a great deal

1779
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: of it from the players in house during the season,

1780
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: and how much it meant to them, and uh, you know,

1781
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: of course the guys on board already are gonna, you know,

1782
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: spin it positive no matter what. But uh talk to

1783
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 1: those guys who came from other places and how much different,

1784
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: like Cole Beasley and those guy John Brown, and how

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01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: much they've really enjoyed being here. And it'll interesting to see.

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01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: We always talk about this, but I don't know how

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01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: big a thing it is. I don't think Shack Lawson

1788
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: and Jordan Phillips are going to take a significantly less

1789
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 1: amount of money to stay here. You know, there there there.

1790
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: Careers are short. They got to maximize it for their families.

1791
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 1: And if it means going into a place where the

1792
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: culture isn't all that good, but the money is, I

1793
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see those guys walk. I mean, they'll

1794
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 1: just do it. And I think that they also know

1795
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: that when they look around that this team has not

1796
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 1: overpaid for guys um So there's probably a really good

1797
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,600
Speaker 1: chance that you know, those guys are they're gonna have

1798
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 1: to make a significant decision if they want to stay here,

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01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: and it may be maybe just a couple hundred thousand

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01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: dollars or maybe millions of dollars difference, So it'll be

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01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 1: interesting and there is some no question about, there is

1802
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: some value for these guys to hang here, knowing the

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01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: culture and everything, and they'll get some benefit from for

1804
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: their families and stuff. And the money's gonna be big,

1805
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 1: no matter what to most of us. But if it's

1806
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: a significantly more at another place, and you know, it

1807
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: doesn't say anything bad about the culture here, doesn't saying

1808
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 1: but it's it's just something that happens the business of

1809
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 1: the game. And they're they're gonna walk, you know they will,

1810
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: and the club knows it. Let us know what you think.

1811
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 1: Give us a call. Eight oh three oh five fifty. Yes,

1812
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: I got to write the time. We're gonna take a break,

1813
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 1: but when we come back, we're going to talk to

1814
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 1: Bobby Stroop. He is Patrick Mahomes's trainer, get into talking

1815
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 1: about why he is such a great quarterback. One Bills

1816
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills, Rayo

1817
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: Bulls d World Sports time for the sports update from

1818
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. The twenty twenty NFL Pro Bowl takes

1819
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: place this Sunday at three o'clock on ESPN, where the

1820
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: NFC and AFC will face off. The Bills are represented

1821
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,719
Speaker 1: by three Pro Bowlers this year, cornerback Tredavious White, linebacker

1822
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, and wide receiver Andre Roberts. After sixteen seasons

1823
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL, all with the Giants, ELI Manning officially

1824
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: announced his retirement at a press conference this morning. Manning,

1825
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: who had two hundred and thirty four regular season starts

1826
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: and two Super Bowl MVPs, stated he did not seriously

1827
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 1: consider playing with another team in twenty twenty. Co owner

1828
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 1: John Merritt noted that Manning will always be the ultimate

1829
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 1: Giant and the franchise will immediately induct him into the

1830
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 1: team's Ring of honor next season and retire eli's number ten.

1831
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: Jersey coach Ed Orzron and LSU have agreed to a

1832
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: six year contract extension through the twenty twenty sixth season

1833
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: that is valued at more than forty two million. Orzron

1834
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: led the Tigers to a forty two to twenty five

1835
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: win over Clemson and the College Football National Championship Playoff

1836
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: earlier this month for the school's first title since two

1837
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,560
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. He was named the winner of the

1838
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Paul Bear Bryant Coach of the Year Award

1839
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 1: last week. The NHL All Stars Skills Challenges takes place

1840
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: tonight at eight o'clock Saber Center. Jack Ichel will participate

1841
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 1: in the NHL Fastest Skater competition in his third appearance

1842
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 1: at the NHL All Star Weekend. Ichael will play with

1843
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,759
Speaker 1: the Atlantic Division tomorrow at eight fifteen against the Metropolitan Division.

1844
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: New this year, at the twenty twenty Honda All Star Game,

1845
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: there will be an elite woman's three on three event

1846
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,919
Speaker 1: with the American All Stars facing off against the Canadian

1847
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: All Stars tonight at nine thirty o'clock. Hockey Hall of

1848
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: Famers Cammi Granado and Jane Hefford will coach the two teams.

1849
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: And now we have with us Bobby Stroupe, who is

1850
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: the APEC founder and director, Accelerate Performance Enhancement Center Director

1851
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 1: and he's directored Human Performance Systems for twenty years. He

1852
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 1: also trains Patrick Mahomes, which is pretty awesome. Bobby, thanks

1853
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: for being on with us. Today. We appreciate and we're

1854
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: excited to get to talk to you about Patrick Mahomes,

1855
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: his success and what you do in the combine with

1856
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:18,759
Speaker 1: several different athletes. Thanks for having me today. I'm excited

1857
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 1: to be on. I appreciate you guys. Yeah, thanks for

1858
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: coming on, Bobby. First thing I got to ask you,

1859
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 1: and for most people, they know all these guys trained

1860
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: in the offseason. I know you also have a bunch

1861
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 1: of a couple of handful of forty nine or athletes

1862
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: that you train, a lot of pro athletes. In Patrick

1863
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: mahomes case, you had him since he was what fourth

1864
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: grade or nine years old or something like that. What

1865
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 1: are some of the and you're now you're getting guys

1866
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 1: ready for the for the Combine as well, What are

1867
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: some of the things that have changed in your twenty

1868
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: years in your training methods and the priorities you set

1869
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: for your athletes. That's a great question. I think it's

1870
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 1: more more like what is stayed the same? You know,

1871
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: really it's such an involving space as far as sports medicine,

1872
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 1: health and performance, and the way we approach things now

1873
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 1: is it's a lot more balanced. I mean, when you

1874
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 1: know twenty years ago, it's more about what can you

1875
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 1: do to get someone faster or what can you do

1876
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 1: to get someone to this end result? And now there's

1877
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: so many more things that we can take an account

1878
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 1: and objectively measure and monitor as far as long term

1879
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: implications of apply metrics and volume and load. And you

1880
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: see the trends in the NBA and what they're doing

1881
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: to preserve health and long term performance. And we're just

1882
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 1: learning a lot more about how indirectly training certain things

1883
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 1: can elevate performance on the field. And I think that

1884
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: just becomes more and more of a part of our program.

1885
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 1: And funny and other even in the combined process, you

1886
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 1: think you'd be more about numbers and testing, but a

1887
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: lot of these guys just haven't felt good since high school.

1888
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,759
Speaker 1: So getting them back to that point has really become

1889
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 1: a huge part of our job, whereas in the past

1890
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 1: it was not. So you've worked with Patrick Mahomes since

1891
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: fourth grade, who know him probably better than a lot

1892
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Speaker 1: of people. How did that relationship come about? And when

1893
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 1: did you really start to see talent in the quarterback?

1894
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 1: So having a kid at fourth grade, I mean, I

1895
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: think anybody would tell you that it's just important that

1896
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 1: they that they have fun and you know, we're crawling,

1897
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: we're moving and playing, and if you think you have

1898
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: standouts at that age, I think it's the strange things.

1899
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, Patrick was just like another kid.

1900
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, his father had a professional career, and

1901
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: he's got great family surrounding him. But it wasn't really

1902
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: until middle school in high school that you started to

1903
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 1: see that there were some things that were interesting about

1904
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Patrick in the way that he solved problems athletically, and

1905
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:47,560
Speaker 1: to speak specifically to that, he's very sudden. His his

1906
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 1: reaction speed was incredible. He had a lot of perceptual

1907
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 1: abilities that you would typically call intangibles, but we quickly

1908
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: found that he could expand and grow in those things

1909
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 1: and in those spaces. And while he wasn't you know,

1910
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 1: really a vertical jump forty time, you know, he wasn't

1911
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 1: in a classic strength conditioning standout, you could see a

1912
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,719
Speaker 1: lot of brilliance in the way that he went about

1913
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,640
Speaker 1: doing things, and he started to stand out, you know,

1914
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of sports older he got by just

1915
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: the way that he played with just a tremendous amount

1916
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: of creative freedom and just a unique style of play

1917
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 1: and really every sport that he did. Yeah, I gotta

1918
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:26,640
Speaker 1: ask you about that too. You say, it's a lot

1919
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: more balanced now in the training where you expand. It's

1920
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 1: not just about making a guy faster or stronger, but

1921
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 1: it's about balanced in your training. The core muscles have

1922
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: been have elevated in their importance than they were decades ago.

1923
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 1: And you talk about Patrick Mahomes and whatever sport he played.

1924
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:45,560
Speaker 1: How big a proponent are you of having kids not

1925
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 1: specialized in a sport but playing more than one sport.

1926
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: Is that a plus for you a minus for you?

1927
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Is that necessary? Not necessary? What are your thoughts on

1928
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 1: young kids who are trying to just hone in on

1929
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: one sport? Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

1930
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 1: I think overall it's a good thing. But it's just

1931
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: like anything else. Did you know You've got the people

1932
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: that will take that and say, well, great, I'm gonna

1933
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: play all the sports all the time. So I just

1934
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: want to be clear, and what I'm not advocating for

1935
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 1: is that your kid play on three baseball teams at

1936
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: the same time that he's playing on a basketball team,

1937
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 1: or you know, garan football season. I don't think it's

1938
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: great to be on two other select teams or you know,

1939
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, when you're when you're playing baseball for your school.

1940
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's great to be playing AAU basketball

1941
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: like this is this is a problem. So I think

1942
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just like anything else, people are choosing a

1943
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: narrative and saying this is good and then using it,

1944
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: using it in a way that I that I don't

1945
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 1: think it's best for athletic development, but but even more importantly,

1946
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: it's not best for their long term joint health. It's

1947
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: not best for their psychological approach to sport and just

1948
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 1: their body period. So while I am a proponent of

1949
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: an advocate for multiple sports and playing multiple sports and

1950
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 1: honestly doing that as long as you can, I don't

1951
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 1: specialization before seventeen years old. You know there's a dark

1952
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 1: side of that too. We're on with Bobby Strup. He's

1953
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:13,759
Speaker 1: the founder and president of Athlete Performance Enhancement Center in Tyler, Texas.

1954
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of staying healthy and being healthy, Patrick Mahomes went

1955
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: down this season with that knee injury. He could have

1956
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: missed quite a long time, possibly even a season ending injury,

1957
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 1: depending on how bad it actually was. It's usually a

1958
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: three to five week recovery for that knee injury, that kneecap,

1959
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: but he only missed two weeks, and he attributes being

1960
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: able to come back so fast partly because of you

1961
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 1: and how you were able to help him. When did

1962
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 1: that start? Is a lot of that help in the

1963
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 1: off season when you were training guys to be able

1964
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 1: to sustain injuries, and that you're growing strength strengths in

1965
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 1: certain areas of your body so that you can play

1966
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: through an entire season and you can have the wherewithal

1967
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: to go through some wear and tear in this season. Well,

1968
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:04,600
Speaker 1: first of all, I appreciate him attributing that to it,

1969
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 1: but I'll have to be the first to say that

1970
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't believe you can prevent injuries, but you can

1971
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 1: help reduce them. And he can also set up the

1972
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: body in a way that it recovers more quickly from them.

1973
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: And look, he's got an incredible support system move around him,

1974
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 1: and I think that support system has a lot to

1975
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: do with how quickly he got back on his I mean,

1976
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: his medical team with the Chiefs, they're they're one of

1977
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: the best, if not the best, in the NFL. You know,

1978
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 1: the way he trained this offseason definitely our theme was resilient.

1979
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,839
Speaker 1: So putting him in awkward positions, making him be comfortable

1980
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: and uncomfortable positions, that's a that's an approach in a

1981
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 1: theory that that we've always had to prepare guys for contact,

1982
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: to prepare guys for things that they need to do.

1983
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 1: And if you look at Patrick's game, he really is

1984
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: unorthodox in his approach, and so you've got to prepare

1985
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,839
Speaker 1: him to be able to produce power from these awkward positions.

1986
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: And so while we do train for someone to be

1987
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: robust and in particular for to be resilient, there's a

1988
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 1: lot of people to credit for this, none more than

1989
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: Patrick and his professionalism in this process when he dealt

1990
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 1: with those things. But rig bull Alter and Julie up

1991
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 1: there with the chiefs, their medical staff, they've just done

1992
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 1: a fine job. And Patrick took it seriously and he

1993
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 1: gets sleep and he lives right. So there's a lot

1994
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: of factors there. I'm lucky and blessed to be associated

1995
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: with it, but um, yeah, I can't. I can't take

1996
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 1: credit for that. I can tell you that I know

1997
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm back a long time ago when I trained and

1998
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 1: I was in the gym all the time, and was

1999
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: training with guys. You kind of get to know each

2000
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 1: other pretty well. And I'm sure you and Patrick have

2001
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: a relationship that's that's pretty long and deep. I gotta

2002
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 1: ask you this. We all watched him go through last

2003
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 1: year's AFC Championship game not ever get a chance in

2004
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: overtime to touch the football, and I know when he

2005
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 1: came back and started training for this season and their

2006
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: run to the Super Bowl this year, he probably had

2007
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 1: a little bit of a different attitude then he had

2008
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 1: in years prior. Can you speak to that and what

2009
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 1: you saw in Patrick after just falling short of the

2010
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year and how it motivated this last offseason. Yeah,

2011
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 1: I think every off season is different, and I think

2012
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 1: NBA players do it the best. They want to add

2013
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 1: in different skill sets every off season and then every

2014
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 1: year they have more of a diversity, diverse set of

2015
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 1: tools to attack people in the way they game playing them.

2016
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: And I've always felt that way about preparing athletes in

2017
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: any sport. But Patrick, you know, the first season going

2018
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: in with the Chiefs, it was all about, you know,

2019
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: win the locker and be a great teammate, prepared to

2020
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 1: be the starter, show them that this matters to you.

2021
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 1: He learned everything you can from Alex and that was

2022
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: just a great situation. The next year, it was all right,

2023
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: they don't know what's coming, let's bring it, you know,

2024
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 1: let's show everything we can. And then and then the

2025
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 1: shift came all the way around to just winning, flat

2026
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 1: out winning. I mean, the only goal this year was

2027
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. And with that going mind,

2028
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: a lot of things shift the front. And we knew

2029
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 1: that there's going to be game plans that he's not

2030
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 1: we're not going to be able to foreshadow, and he's

2031
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 1: got to be ready to be mobile. He's got to

2032
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 1: be ready to take the hits and be resilient, and

2033
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: he's prepared that way. Who knows what's gonna happen in

2034
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. These are two great teams with great

2035
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: staffs and great players, and anything can happen. But he's

2036
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: more prepared this year, and that's that's what's intent. And

2037
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: that was tactical and on purpose from his part. You

2038
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: trained several prospects leading up until the Combine and the draft.

2039
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 1: You're probably getting quite busy with that actually, with the

2040
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl going on right now and the Combine ahead

2041
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,719
Speaker 1: at the end of February. So what's a typical training

2042
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 1: day like for an NFL prospect? And Steve and I

2043
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 1: were talking about this a little bit earlier in that

2044
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 1: a lot of these prospects, these juniors and seniors have

2045
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: been going since the beginning of their training camp in August,

2046
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 1: and they'll go all the way through their first season

2047
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL before they really get a break. So,

2048
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 1: what what's a typical day like for you when you're

2049
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: training for the combine? Man, that's a great point which

2050
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 1: you bring up, and that it's almost like a rookie

2051
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 1: baseball player. That's just they're at such a disadvantage in

2052
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 1: this process. So you know, we go off ten day

2053
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 1: training blox, so every day is a little different for

2054
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: ten days that we train, and then it flips, so

2055
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 1: not every Monday's the saying, not every Tuesday, if that

2056
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 1: makes sense. But you know, basically they're going to come

2057
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:30,679
Speaker 1: in a normal day, They're come in at seven thirty,

2058
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 1: they eat breakfast, they're gonna go to our soft tissue team,

2059
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: which is going to work on joint mobilizations priming their body.

2060
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:41,719
Speaker 1: Next then they're going to go to a personalized views

2061
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,680
Speaker 1: which is a proactive therapy script made just for them

2062
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:47,560
Speaker 1: and the things that we found that they need for

2063
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 1: their body. After that, we always go to movement. So

2064
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 1: whatever the speed and power focuses of the day, that's

2065
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna be first. Once we finish with that session, you know,

2066
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 1: you're already two and a half hours in, they're gonna

2067
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 1: get some some of a metal acids, they're gonna get

2068
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of supplementation, and then we do a

2069
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: power development session. Then we follow that with a strength

2070
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 1: and a conditioning session. Then they're going to eat lunch.

2071
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: After lunch, they have a flexibility session with sports stretch.

2072
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 1: Then we've got multiple different disciplines is for recovery from

2073
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:26,879
Speaker 1: far near an infrared sauna to light therapy to pneumatic

2074
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 1: massage systems, I mean, you name it. So these guys

2075
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 1: have full days. I mean by the time they're done,

2076
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 1: it's three o'clock, seven to three with no breaks. There's

2077
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: a lot going on. But we've just found that through

2078
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 1: this process we have to condition them to what these

2079
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 1: bowl games are gonna be like, what the what the

2080
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 1: combine experience is going to be like in the pro day.

2081
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 1: So it's a lot, but it's it's it's a lot

2082
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 1: of fun as well. What what's the most common lesson

2083
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 1: you feel you have to teach most of the young

2084
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 1: guys who come to you. I'm not talking about the

2085
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: middle schoolers in high schoo I'm talking about the pro guys,

2086
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 1: or the or the college prospects getting ready for the

2087
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 1: draft or just into the NFL. What's the most common

2088
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 1: lesson you have to teach young guys when they come

2089
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, that's a good question. I think that

2090
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 1: that's I feel like it's pretty pretty consistent. And the

2091
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 1: common message is this just because it isn't it doesn't

2092
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: hurt you or doesn't feel like you're grinding, doesn't mean

2093
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 1: it's not incredibly valuable in something you need to really

2094
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 1: focus and do at a high level. These guys have

2095
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 1: been conditioned, a lot of them through college, u or

2096
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:37,640
Speaker 1: high school or just their own disposition that things have

2097
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: to be hard all the time and that's how you

2098
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 1: earn your way in this world. But what they quickly

2099
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:44,759
Speaker 1: find in this process is if you focus on different

2100
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: articulations with your ankle and how how your foot is

2101
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 1: mobilizing before the workout, or take the time to do

2102
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 1: things that actually feel good and actually focus on them

2103
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 1: with the same intent and energy as you would a

2104
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: forty start or your position work. Then there's a real

2105
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 1: there's a real shift in professionalism that gives these guys,

2106
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 1: give these guys a mindset for a good career. You

2107
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 1: train players on both rosters and the Super Bowl, the

2108
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 1: forty nine ers and the Chief Solomon Thomas, a couple

2109
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 1: other guys. Patrick Mahomes, can you explain to the fan

2110
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 1: kind of the work that goes into what these players

2111
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 1: have been able to do and where they've been able

2112
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 1: to get with it all starting in the offseason preparing

2113
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 1: to the next season, because I'm sure you're there when

2114
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 1: it all starts for that upcoming season and you get

2115
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 1: to see just every single day the work that these

2116
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 1: players put in to be able to hopefully get to

2117
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 1: the point where a couple of your guys are at

2118
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 1: right now preparing for the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean

2119
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 1: a lot of them. It starts in their bye week

2120
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 1: the season before they come in and we just talk

2121
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 1: about everything that they wanted to steal better the next

2122
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 1: season and what do they need to be better. And

2123
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 1: you know that's how I met Solomon is he wasn't

2124
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 1: happy with how his career has started off. And last

2125
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 1: year and his bye week, he came down and we

2126
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: made a list and there's some things medically, you know,

2127
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna talk about, but but I will say

2128
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: that he had some stuff to make the Steel decisions on.

2129
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 1: And I think you've noticed that now they've got depth there.

2130
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: But there's a difference in this. In the playoffs, he's

2131
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: playing well, and obviously the Patrick would have such a

2132
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 1: long relationship that you know, it's almost just continuous as

2133
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 1: far as communication and what we're doing. But yeah, I

2134
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 1: mean people don't see it. These guys they come in

2135
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 1: and this is their livelihood. So every day they check in,

2136
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 1: they go to work. You know, Richie James is a

2137
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 1: return guy for the forty nine ers and a great receivery.

2138
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 1: You know, he was a long shot guy. You know,

2139
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback in high school. I mean, the things

2140
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 1: he's doing, it wasn't just a given. And the people

2141
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 1: that actually have a sustainable career, and I mean sustainable

2142
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: beyond eighteen months is what I would consider an NFL.

2143
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 1: You know, they do these things right, they take him seriously.

2144
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,560
Speaker 1: Nobody's taking four months off. I mean, there could be

2145
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 1: there can be some unique people here and there, but

2146
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 1: you take away that top five percent of people, uh

2147
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,640
Speaker 1: that can get away with it. You know, you have

2148
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 1: to work, you know, you have to earn your way

2149
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL almost every day year round. And these

2150
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 1: guys do that. And I'm proud of all of them

2151
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 1: in this game, um, and I want I want the

2152
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: best for all of them. Yeah, I gotta one last

2153
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 1: thing for me, Bobby. I gotta just say this. This

2154
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 1: combine that comes up and I remember and I and

2155
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 1: I can see it every year on their faces. And

2156
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 1: these guys they show up and they know it's a

2157
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: little bit like an academic standardized test, you know where

2158
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 1: you you know, right, so if you can, if you

2159
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 1: know what's going to be asked, you can kind of

2160
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: get the answers and have it ready. And all these

2161
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 1: guys know exactly what the combined is going to be

2162
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,679
Speaker 1: asked of them physically the forty time they're route running

2163
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 1: their hands or arm strength all this. You know, all

2164
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 1: these guys have these drills at their at their you know,

2165
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 1: at their fingertips. What's your attitude towards to these guys

2166
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 1: is about? You know, do you just train for the

2167
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 1: standardized test? Or do you continue to hone in on

2168
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 1: just making them better all around? Given the fact that

2169
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, the emotional stress for these young players is

2170
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 1: enormous because of all the money and the dreams that

2171
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 1: they've got tied up into this combine, how do you

2172
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 1: handle like the emotional preparation and the stress preparation for

2173
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 1: being there with all these other great athletes and trying

2174
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 1: to show up big Yeah, you nailed it. The way

2175
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 1: I tell them to approach it is just like a decathlon.

2176
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they have entered into a season of their

2177
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: life where they're decathlete, and they've got multiple events that

2178
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 1: they need to do well at and there's some events

2179
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 1: that they have to win if they want to be

2180
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 1: in the in the point totals. That's that's kind of

2181
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 1: how I could can communicate this to them so they

2182
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 1: can visualize it. And unfortunately football isn't even one of

2183
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 1: those events right now, you know. But what we're challenged

2184
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 1: with is that we still want them to be better

2185
01:50:57,840 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 1: at the game of football, So we have to stead

2186
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 1: of that in I mean, we're not gonna just look,

2187
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,719
Speaker 1: you can get a guy's vertical of in certain ways

2188
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 1: more from a more advantaged state, but it can put

2189
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 1: them at a high risk for injury. They're ricky season.

2190
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that we've unfortunately gone through that

2191
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:18,839
Speaker 1: in twenty years, and you've got to make conscious decisions

2192
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 1: on what's the most important for guys, high risk guys

2193
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 1: versus low risk guys, projectability, all these things factor in.

2194
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 1: But you know, when you're talking about the combine, it

2195
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 1: is like a standardized test. There are things now This

2196
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 1: year is different. I don't know if everybody's aware, but

2197
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 1: in the past, they test these guys at seven in

2198
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:42,759
Speaker 1: the morning and they get make them report at five am.

2199
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 1: Some one's four am. They got a step till one

2200
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning doing interviews. This year, they're moving

2201
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: all the testing, all the TV time to prime time

2202
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 1: in the evening, so they're not really giving us a

2203
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 1: lot of information on their order and how they're gonna

2204
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 1: do things. So this year is gonna be a little

2205
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: harder to just have all the answers. I think they're

2206
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 1: changing things in a positive manner, but there's gonna be

2207
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 1: some more true results, if that makes any stens this year. Bobby,

2208
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. We do appreciate your time. Definitely

2209
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: enjoy watching the Super Bowl with some of your players

2210
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: playing in that in just a short week away, and

2211
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll be pretty busy coming up with the

2212
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,759
Speaker 1: Combine and all the training that you have. Congratulations, Bobby,

2213
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for having me and man,

2214
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: it's been an awesome scene. Your team improved as well,

2215
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,640
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen should be mentioned, is one of the

2216
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 1: most improved players in the NFL. You guys got an

2217
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 1: exciting future and appreciate y'all having me on today. All right, thanks, Yeah,

2218
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 1: no problem. That's Bobby Stroup. He's the founder and president

2219
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 1: of Athlete Performance Enhancement Center out of Tyler, Texas, and

2220
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 1: he brought up a good point. There's some changes right

2221
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,879
Speaker 1: now in the combine coming up, which begins on February

2222
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 1: twenty third. Another thing that's going to be different this

2223
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:01,719
Speaker 1: year is usually there are sick interviews, so these teams

2224
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: can have sixty interviews with guys. Those are fifteen minute interviews.

2225
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 1: This year it is being dropped down to forty five

2226
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:13,640
Speaker 1: interviews and those will be eighteen minute interviews. So what

2227
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 1: that means to your casual fan is you get to

2228
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 1: spend some more time with less guys. And that makes

2229
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl even more important this year. So you

2230
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 1: have to believe that Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean and

2231
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: some of the scouts were definitely interviewing guys who they

2232
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 1: think may go middle Round because you don't have as

2233
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 1: many of your per se stars at the Senior Bowl

2234
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 1: because some of those guys dropped out this year. But

2235
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 1: they are definitely taking the time to interview players in

2236
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl because they will have less in the combine.

2237
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 1: What happens is it starts on Sunday, February twenty third,

2238
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 1: and the tight ends, quarterbacks, and wide receivers will show up,

2239
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 1: and then the next day the place kickers, special teams guys,

2240
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 1: offensive lines, and running backs will show up. Those are

2241
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 1: return guys to special teams guys show up on Monday,

2242
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 1: Tuesday to the defensive line and linebackers, and Wednesday the

2243
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:09,719
Speaker 1: dbs show up. And there's only three days. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

2244
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 1: all four of those groups are there all at once,

2245
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:16,760
Speaker 1: and then it trails off the same way. Saturday, the quarterbacks,

2246
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 1: wide receivers and tight ends are all gone. The next

2247
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 1: day the kickers, special teams, offensive line, running backs are

2248
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 1: all gone, the defensive line linebackers leave the next day,

2249
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 1: and then Monday, March second, finally the defensive backs leaves.

2250
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 1: So they're kind of overlap all these guys and they

2251
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 1: stagger them and they stare step them through the week.

2252
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 1: So that Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, all whatever, hundred a couple

2253
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 1: hundred of them are there all at once, and then

2254
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 1: they stare step them out of there. You're right. The

2255
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 1: schedule and how they run things, it is a little

2256
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 1: bit of a livestock show where they these guys show

2257
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: up and they get the pictures taken, they get they height,

2258
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 1: and wait, they go for their physical and then you

2259
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 1: go for their physical. It's not just one doctor. I mean,

2260
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 1: it's like they're like they're going into medical. There's a

2261
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: bunch of doctors there and they all have to examine them.

2262
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 1: They blood work, the whole nine yards. I mean, they

2263
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: really give these guys a health check, and rightfully so

2264
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 1: if they're gonna pay some of these guys seven figures,

2265
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: they want to make sure they're healthy, particularly if they're athletes.

2266
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: So you can imagine the extent of nature of the

2267
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 1: medical interviews these guys go through. And then let alone,

2268
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 1: he's and we talked about Bobby Stroup. He said, well,

2269
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 1: none of this has to do with actual throwing the

2270
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 1: football or playing football. Might throw some catches, you know,

2271
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 1: throwing catch and that's it. And it's funny to think

2272
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 1: about to your point of how it is the combine

2273
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 1: is not that there's so many drills, whether it's the

2274
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 1: forty yard dash or the cone drill or when you're

2275
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 1: getting into heightened measurement and wait and before the draft

2276
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 1: and before you get to see the product on the field,

2277
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: so any people will obsess over his hand is this big?

2278
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 1: Or his three cone drill was terrible? How is that

2279
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 1: going to work out? And once he gets onto the field. Um,

2280
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 1: But it's interesting the training that goes into that, that

2281
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 1: you have to train for things like the three cone drill,

2282
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: and you have to train for the forty yard yar

2283
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: dash and you have to train to be able to

2284
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 1: show case how how high you can jump and things

2285
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, and it's it's all about measurables. You

2286
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 1: know how high you are, how tall you are, how

2287
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 1: heavy you are, and how strong you are and literally

2288
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 1: what your body looks like. Do you fit the numbers

2289
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 1: that you put out there and they are every year.

2290
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 1: There are guys who don't look the part, but test

2291
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 1: the part, and then you start getting too you know,

2292
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 1: and are we really sold on this guy? What? You know?

2293
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 1: That kind of thing is he's got this like DK Metcalf,

2294
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: great wide receiver for the Seattle Cyarks, his three cone

2295
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 1: drill was horrible. So everybody's like, oh, yeah, he's got

2296
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 1: some issue. Well, yeah, guy turns out he's one of

2297
01:56:57,880 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 1: the best brookie receivers in the league and he kills

2298
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 1: pretty good, right, so his forty was really So you

2299
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 1: got all this stuff where they have holes in there

2300
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 1: in their game or their physical abilities, but they measure

2301
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 1: them and then people start to react accordingly or overreact accordingly.

2302
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 1: That's that's the interesting part of the whole process. How

2303
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 1: have you seen the combine evolved since you have been

2304
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 1: in football? Well, I did not get invited. My year

2305
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 1: when I came out of nineteen eighty five was I

2306
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 1: think the second maybe the third year of the combine,

2307
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 1: and I didn't get invited that you know. So did

2308
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 1: you have a pro day though? Yeah, well no pro

2309
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: days didn't exist either. The way it worked back then

2310
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 1: was I'd get a call from the football office at

2311
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 1: Northwestern University and say, hey, the scout is scout from town.

2312
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 1: This guy is going to be in town Tuesday at

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01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 1: this time. You need to be there and be ready.

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01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 1: And I'd be like okay, and that was it. You know.

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01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 1: He'd come in and say, well, I go what do

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01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 1: you want me to do? Yeah, and he'd say, okay, today,

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01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 1: we want you to do three cone shuffle, we want

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01:57:56,440 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 1: to do a forty, want your vertical heightweight, your hands sizes,

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01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 1: and I want to see you bench or something out

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01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 1: you know, or whatever. And this scout was I'd say okay.

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01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 1: So then another scout would come in. We'd do some

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01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: of the same stuff and some different stuff whenever that

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01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 1: other scout came in. So you had to stay ready

2324
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 1: all the time. And it was completely different then. Yeah. Now, yeah,

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01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:19,720
Speaker 1: I worked at Tennessee before I got this job, and

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01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 1: there were always scouts in and out of that building

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01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 1: throughout the season, practices, games. I mean guys. Scouts would

2328
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 1: come in on Thursday or Friday so they would be

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01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 1: able to watch practice and then they'd be able to

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01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:32,840
Speaker 1: see the game, meet with some players, things like that,

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01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: and then the bigger schools host the pro days and

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01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: so Tennessee would always have a Pro Day, and your

2333
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 1: guys who didn't get invited to the combine that would

2334
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 1: be their big day. And then you'd see a lot

2335
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 1: of also players from smaller schools travel to the bigger

2336
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 1: schools pro days. So you have all these Tennessee players,

2337
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 1: but you then have some smaller Tennessee schools that would

2338
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 1: be coming to Pro Day. So it's from guys from

2339
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 1: kids from Mississippi Valley State going to old Missus Pro

2340
01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:59,080
Speaker 1: Day and that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, that was

2341
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 1: That's pretty common. It's a big it's a big event event.

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01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have a lot more to come. We're

2343
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:07,960
Speaker 1: gonna get into some true false coming up. We're gonna

2344
01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:10,120
Speaker 1: take a short break, but we still got half an

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01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 1: hour left, so don't go anywhere. It is One Bills

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01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 1: Live from One Bills Live, One Bills Drive. This is

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01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back into one Bills Live from

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01:59:34,720 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. Maddi glab Here was Steve Tasker. We

2349
01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: don't have too much longer in the show. Friday, it's

2350
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 1: a great day. The weekend's coming up, Senior Bowl, Pro

2351
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 1: Bowl this weekend. We got football on TV. The weekend

2352
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 1: after that's super Bowl. It's a good time to be live.

2353
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 1: Not as good as it was. You know, we were

2354
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:57,720
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but now yeah it's pretty Goody we

2355
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:02,240
Speaker 1: have three guys in the Pro Bowl. They steps next year. Yeah,

2356
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe it. All Right, we've got

2357
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: a Twitter question. Give us three things the Bills must

2358
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:12,920
Speaker 1: do this offseason? All right, here we go from Jim.

2359
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 1: He says, a tall wide receiver, pass rusher and dick

2360
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 1: and get Garrick Henry from the Titans. Get Derrick Henry

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02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 1: from the Titans. Can that happen? It could? I mean,

2362
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 1: the guy's a free agent, this is true. If we

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02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 1: get him for the right price, bring him in. Why

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02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:34,560
Speaker 1: not if he wants to play here. I'm not paying

2365
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 1: the guy fifteen million bucks though, if you can forget it.

2366
02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 1: That's one thing we've been talking about all showing Sean mcderman.

2367
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 1: Are not going to overpay for players for guys. So

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02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm and it's yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm fine

2369
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:50,360
Speaker 1: with that tall wide receiver. I like that. I'm rusher game.

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02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:53,080
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry might be a little hard obviously. If he's

2371
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:54,680
Speaker 1: going to be a tall he's got to be productive

2372
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 1: on all these guys. Right, all right, here we go.

2373
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Speaker 1: There's number the last one on the tweet sheet from Jeremiah.

2374
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 1: Give us three things the Bills must do this offseason.

2375
02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:06,040
Speaker 1: Jeremiah says, get a big, fast and physical wide out

2376
02:01:06,640 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 1: Number two. Couple of pass rushers. Solidify both offensive tackle positions.

2377
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 1: There you go. It's right, you know it's They're about

2378
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:18,520
Speaker 1: there to the point where they're gonna have to extend

2379
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:25,880
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins. Tremaine Edmonds is eligible for extension, and Trey

2380
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 1: White's getting there, and so is Matt Malana. So all

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02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 1: those guys are kind of gonna be up. There's no

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02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:34,520
Speaker 1: real urgency for any of those guys, which you need

2383
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 1: to get him done at some point. Right, Definitely, they're

2384
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:39,440
Speaker 1: they're pretty great players, so I'd love to have them

2385
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 1: on the Bills for years to come. We have a

2386
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:46,480
Speaker 1: phone call Tom from an her Amherst is going to

2387
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 1: be on the line. He has something to say about

2388
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:51,440
Speaker 1: some of our corners and what we can do to

2389
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:54,880
Speaker 1: get better at that position. Tom, y'aw on there, go ahead. Yeah,

2390
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 1: how are you doing, guys? Yeah? I talked to you

2391
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Steve about what Maddie talks to you about

2392
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 1: her and show about a replacement for a Lorentzal Alexander. Right,

2393
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:08,440
Speaker 1: but my corner question for you guys, We've seen they

2394
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:11,800
Speaker 1: have a lot of nickel corners on a roster, and uh,

2395
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:15,920
Speaker 1: what what would you think about drafting a cornerback compliment

2396
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 1: trade a White number one? Well, I'm thinking about that today.

2397
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:21,680
Speaker 1: We were talking about it. I mean it was I

2398
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:24,240
Speaker 1: wasn't on no, no, no, no, we weren't talking about

2399
02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 1: it on the show. This was off the show, right,

2400
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:29,600
Speaker 1: and we sorry, guys. If there's a good corner out there,

2401
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm all about it. I get it. I mean, we've

2402
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 1: got needs everywhere, and we've already got Tredavious White, who's

2403
02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:37,600
Speaker 1: all pro and that which is you know, I know,

2404
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:41,200
Speaker 1: I know he is. He's great. But it sure certainly

2405
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 1: takes the heat off your pass rush when the guys

2406
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:46,200
Speaker 1: are covered up. Anyway, Yeah, and that was kind of

2407
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 1: the personality of the Bill's defense this year, was that,

2408
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, they're deep. Their secondary and linebacking corps in

2409
02:02:53,480 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 1: space were so good. The d line, you know, just

2410
02:02:57,080 --> 02:02:58,920
Speaker 1: had to make sure the ball came out and not

2411
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:02,040
Speaker 1: have a quarterback snap off a thirty five yard run,

2412
02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 1: and it seemed obviously they were really good. I think

2413
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:10,320
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good philosophy to keep edge rushers are great.

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02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:12,320
Speaker 1: But what do you do when you're playing Patrick Mahomes

2415
02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson or Deshaun Watson and they just or

2416
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, they just bob and weave and run away

2417
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:21,840
Speaker 1: from your edge rusher who beat their offensive tackle right away.

2418
02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 1: Now you still got he's still got time to throw.

2419
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:29,040
Speaker 1: So if you've got edge rushers who are disciplined, stay

2420
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 1: in their lane and keep the quarterback in the pocket

2421
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: and close that down to where the ball has to

2422
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:34,680
Speaker 1: come out, he's not going to be able to run

2423
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 1: with it as often as he would like. But they're

2424
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:39,600
Speaker 1: covered up in the back end. Because you did draft

2425
02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:42,400
Speaker 1: another corner. You may have another top two or three

2426
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 1: defense again next year, and that'd be that'd be pretty good.

2427
02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:48,000
Speaker 1: So I'm not I hear you, I hear you, Tom.

2428
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it'll work. I wouldn't be surprised. Nothing surprised me

2429
02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 1: in the draft. If they can get to a point.

2430
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:54,880
Speaker 1: The philosophy is this, you want to get to the

2431
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 1: point where the draft is where you can take whatever

2432
02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 1: player is there. That is the absolute best guy I left,

2433
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:05,040
Speaker 1: no matter what position, and the Bills do a pretty

2434
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 1: good job of getting that spot every draft. Yeah, definitely,

2435
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 1: one of the mock drafts has a corner going at

2436
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 1: number twenty two, which is the Bill's first round pick.

2437
02:04:13,240 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: That's Jalen Johnson out of Utah. So there's definitely been

2438
02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:19,880
Speaker 1: some mock drafts that have had corners either at their

2439
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:23,360
Speaker 1: first pick or their second pick in the second round.

2440
02:04:23,400 --> 02:04:27,240
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see what happens there. Thanks

2441
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:29,120
Speaker 1: for the call. We're going to take another run. Jim

2442
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 1: is on the line. Jim, what do you think all?

2443
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:37,200
Speaker 1: Are you talking to me from Marilla? Yes? We are

2444
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:40,640
Speaker 1: go ahead. Oh okay, I had shut the radio off. Yeah,

2445
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:44,120
Speaker 1: you just talked about exactly what I wanted to ask about.

2446
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 1: Everybody talks about picking the next best available player in

2447
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:54,480
Speaker 1: the draft. Can you tell me what criteria they use,

2448
02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:58,400
Speaker 1: what system, what stats, what information they use to figure

2449
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 1: out what's the next best available players? Because you just

2450
02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:05,000
Speaker 1: look at linebackers versus cornerbacks. I think backs, this is

2451
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:08,480
Speaker 1: wide receivers. What system do they use to determine that?

2452
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:12,600
Speaker 1: It's a great question, because you're right, you're comparing apples

2453
02:05:12,680 --> 02:05:16,120
Speaker 1: to oranges with players who play completely different positions and

2454
02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 1: different sides of the football. And when it comes down

2455
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 1: to say, do you want to take this offensive tackle

2456
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:23,840
Speaker 1: or do you want to take that cornerback? I think

2457
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:26,000
Speaker 1: what they do is what a lot of that has

2458
02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:30,400
Speaker 1: to do is at that point, Jim, I think it

2459
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:33,560
Speaker 1: comes down to a gut call. And it also has

2460
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:36,280
Speaker 1: to do with who's on your roster. Which of those

2461
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:39,000
Speaker 1: positions do you need it most, which one is the shallowest,

2462
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:41,120
Speaker 1: which one would you like to have bolstered more than

2463
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 1: the other one. Like, for instance, if you have if

2464
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 1: you always need, if you're not that confident in the

2465
02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:49,920
Speaker 1: roster of tackles offensive tackles you have, maybe you do

2466
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 1: take the tackle instead to the corner, or vice versa.

2467
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 1: If you've got corners but you really think you could

2468
02:05:55,440 --> 02:05:57,680
Speaker 1: upgrade them and get better, if you take the corner

2469
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:00,320
Speaker 1: over the tackle, that's the one you go too. But

2470
02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:03,720
Speaker 1: it comes down to it, it's nothing when push comes

2471
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:06,840
Speaker 1: to shove, it's a judgment call on which one you

2472
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 1: need the most. And if it comes down to two

2473
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:13,120
Speaker 1: different guys at two different positions, it's which position is

2474
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:17,160
Speaker 1: a best most need? Yeah, so the best available on

2475
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:19,640
Speaker 1: your roster, and they're also looking. I mean, this staff

2476
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:21,480
Speaker 1: does a great job and these scouts do a great

2477
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:24,400
Speaker 1: job to look beyond the stats, beyond what they do

2478
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:26,800
Speaker 1: on the field. They're looking for off the field things too.

2479
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:29,880
Speaker 1: They're looking for the intangibles what these players can add

2480
02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 1: into the locker room this team, and Brandon Bean has

2481
02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:36,360
Speaker 1: been very public about, Hey, sometimes we're going to pass

2482
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:38,600
Speaker 1: up on guys who may be the best available, but

2483
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:40,560
Speaker 1: we don't want to take them for X y Z

2484
02:06:40,840 --> 02:06:43,840
Speaker 1: because of off the field reasons. Right, what else you got? Jim?

2485
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:47,880
Speaker 1: All Right, Jim's gone. But yeah, that's a great point

2486
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 1: for you too. There's a lot of criteria that goes

2487
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:52,800
Speaker 1: in and how much you weigh what those guys bring

2488
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 1: on and off the field. Does this is a corner

2489
02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:59,720
Speaker 1: have the ability, like tradevious White kind of elevate the

2490
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:02,880
Speaker 1: guy around him with his attitude, with his energy, with

2491
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:06,880
Speaker 1: his positivity, with his character, with his work ethic. Does

2492
02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:10,360
Speaker 1: he elevate the other cornerbacks in the room to play better,

2493
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 1: to be pros, to work hard at it off the

2494
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:15,360
Speaker 1: field and away from the field, and to stay committed

2495
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:19,560
Speaker 1: when nobody's watching. Certainly, an offensive lineman has that ability

2496
02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:21,680
Speaker 1: because they're in a room all the time with those

2497
02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:23,800
Speaker 1: other five or six or seven guys. They spend a

2498
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 1: lot of time talking and communicating, and they need to

2499
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:29,600
Speaker 1: play together. So he'll have a much more opportunity to

2500
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:32,920
Speaker 1: elevate their play if he's that kind of guy that

2501
02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 1: goes a long way with this general manager and a

2502
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:37,680
Speaker 1: head coach and this culture of what kind of guy

2503
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:40,040
Speaker 1: they are, And maybe that would be the tipping point

2504
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:42,480
Speaker 1: of in the process of when we get down to

2505
02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:45,760
Speaker 1: the draft, who we're going to take which guy. Maybe

2506
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:49,160
Speaker 1: that's as much as as what position they play. Stuff

2507
02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 1: and this team. The players in this locker room have

2508
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:54,120
Speaker 1: said a lot of times, and I think Jordan Poyer

2509
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:56,960
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde have said this, we feel like we're a

2510
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 1: bunch of misfits that have been able to come together

2511
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 1: and make something. Teams let us walk. Teams didn't want us.

2512
02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:06,040
Speaker 1: But now we're here in Buffalo where staff wants us

2513
02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:07,680
Speaker 1: and they know how to use us in the right

2514
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:10,000
Speaker 1: way to get the full potential out of us. So

2515
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,640
Speaker 1: they may pass on on these great players, but they

2516
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:16,120
Speaker 1: they're taking players that they believe will fit into the

2517
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:18,400
Speaker 1: system that they have in placed here right and they

2518
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 1: also there's also everything goes into this. There's a million

2519
02:08:22,280 --> 02:08:27,960
Speaker 1: things of intangibles and gut opinions and experiences that go

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Speaker 1: into the evaluation of these players that they don't know about.

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Speaker 1: There's also one that goes in that says, listen, this

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Speaker 1: guy like, for instance, Josh Allen. There might be a

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Speaker 1: guy who was more polished coming out, or had ran

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Speaker 1: a different kind of offense that was more attractive to

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Speaker 1: the pro game, or played at a higher level, whatever.

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Speaker 1: But they look at a guy like Josh and said,

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Speaker 1: that guy's physical top end is way better than anybody else.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we think, and as a coaching staff, we

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Speaker 1: think we have a plan of bringing that out of

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Speaker 1: it and getting him to play mentally with mental acuity

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Speaker 1: that his physical acuity would would support, you know. So

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Speaker 1: they think they're going to get a much better guy

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Speaker 1: down the road if they can develop him. And that

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Speaker 1: goes into the thinking as well, at every position, not

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Speaker 1: just a quarterback. Yeah, so much goes into these decisions,

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Speaker 1: from watching film too, putting guys on lists, to evaluating

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Speaker 1: that to interviewing. I mean, it's a it's a year

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Speaker 1: round process that does not stop for the scouting department.

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Speaker 1: Here with the Buffalo Bills. It's quite incredible. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break, but when we come back, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about what we have learned. One Bill's Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is the Buffalo Bills Radio. It's

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Speaker 1: time for what have we learned? Brought to you by Skyworks.

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Speaker 1: Skyworks the official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell was on our show earlier and he had

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Speaker 1: a lot to say on what makes Patrick Mahomes such

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Speaker 1: an elite talent. He's a super free thrower, Matty. Not

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Speaker 1: many guys throw the ball like that, and the quarterback

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Speaker 1: position in the NFL still starts with the way a

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02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 1: guy throws it. And he's a great great throwers. He

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02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 1: can throw with a velocity, he can throw a touch,

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02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:28,680
Speaker 1: he can throw from as we say, different platforms. He

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02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:30,400
Speaker 1: can throw it from the pocket. He can throw it

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Speaker 1: well on the move. His ball placement is very very good.

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Speaker 1: You don't see him miss too many throws. Where you go, man,

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Speaker 1: he missed that one. His ball placement is usually very precise,

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Speaker 1: so as a passer, there's really nothing he's missing. And

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Speaker 1: then you add in the movement element the second reaction ability.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's just got a knack because there are

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Speaker 1: times he kind of plays the game loose and you

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02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:56,800
Speaker 1: almost feel like he's undisciplined, but then he makes plays

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02:10:56,880 --> 02:11:00,280
Speaker 1: that way. There's a playmaking dimension to his game. We

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Speaker 1: also had Bobby Stroop on he has worked with Patrick

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02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:06,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes since he was in fourth grade, and he had

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Speaker 1: something to say about his unique style of play on

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Speaker 1: the field. It wasn't really until middle school in high

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Speaker 1: school that he started to see that there were some

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Speaker 1: things that were interesting about Patrick in the way that

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Speaker 1: he solved problems athletically, and to speak specifically to that,

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Speaker 1: he's very studden. His his reaction speed was incredible. He

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Speaker 1: had a lot of perceptual abilities that you would typically

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Speaker 1: call intangibles. But we quickly found that he could expand

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Speaker 1: and grow in those things and in those spaces. And

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Speaker 1: while he wasn't, you know, really a vertical jump forty times,

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Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't a classic strength conditioning standout, you

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02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:48,680
Speaker 1: could see a lot of brilliance in the way that

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Speaker 1: he went about doing things, and he started to stand out,

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Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of sports older he got

2579
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Speaker 1: by just the way that he played with just a

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Speaker 1: tremendous amount of creative freedom and just a unique dollar play.

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Speaker 1: That is what we learned from today's show. Steve. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna watch the Senior Bowl or the Pro Bowl this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Probably be busy. Probably be busy. I may turn the

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Speaker 1: two for school. Yeah, it does not. No, I'll just

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Speaker 1: say no, I'm not gonna watch the Pro Bowl. Haters

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Speaker 1: in the club. I'm not hater. I'm just I got

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Speaker 1: things I gotta do that are fun, Okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: I yeah, no, no, no, I can't do it. I

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Speaker 1: might watch the I might watch the NHL All Star Game,

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Speaker 1: Cocky All Star Game. That might be on my list,

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Speaker 1: but for me, my weekends are too precious to be

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Speaker 1: sitting there watching them scrimmage. Love the game, though I

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Speaker 1: do love the game, that is not the game. Let's

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Speaker 1: be real, right, come on, are you gonna watch it? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Probably not. I'll watch the Pro Bowl. I will watch

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl on Sunday. Yeah, I'll watch that goes

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Speaker 1: hopefully Trey White, Tremaine Edmonds. I would love it if

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Speaker 1: and then stubbed their toe and sat down for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the day, And I'll be interested to see

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Speaker 1: the stats that come out of the Senior Bowl and

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Speaker 1: kind of the buzz that comes out of that game,

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Speaker 1: because that'll be fun to see. I'll be interested to

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Speaker 1: see how it goes with the Yeah, with the the

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Speaker 1: guys who light it up over there, who do well

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02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:28,880
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo's a prime example. Made made his bones

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Speaker 1: in those games. Yes he did, Adam, he's making thirty

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Speaker 1: million bucks a year. Good, all right, Well, that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's our show. Thanks to our friends in the control room, George,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Thomas, Kelly JJ, Kevin James, and our producer Jay Harris.

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Speaker 1: We hope you all have a wonderful weekend and we

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Speaker 1: will see you next week on Monday, One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive