WEBVTT - Hope Is In Our DNA (Lisa Harper)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick. I'm the pastor of Elevation

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<v Speaker 1>Church and this is our podcast and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining us today. Hope this inspires you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope it builds your faith. Hope it gives your perspective

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<v Speaker 1>to see God has moving in your life. Enjoy the message. Amen, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Elevation Church. On behalf of Pastor Stephen and

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<v Speaker 1>our family. I'm so happy that you're joining us. Type

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<v Speaker 1>it in the chat. Let me know where you're joining

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<v Speaker 1>us from. We have people joining us from all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world all weekend long. Let's see, We've got Melissa

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<v Speaker 1>from Michigan. We've got Eric from Kenya, Joel is joining

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<v Speaker 1>us from Mississippi, Hazel from India, literally all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love it. I love worshiping with Elevation Church.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an amazing part of what I get to do

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<v Speaker 1>with my life. And I know you're grateful that too. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Faith Verdick. If you don't know her,

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<v Speaker 1>she is the woman who gave our pastor life and

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<v Speaker 1>today is her birthday. So Faith, if you're watching, speak

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us when I say thank you. You

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<v Speaker 1>are one special woman. You deserve an extra crown for

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<v Speaker 1>raising Stephen Ferdick and not killing him, because I now

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<v Speaker 1>know what it's like to raise teenagers. And so thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>We all thank you. Are your kids all set E

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<v Speaker 1>kids online? How many of you are grateful for E

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<v Speaker 1>kids Online? I know it's not the same thing as

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<v Speaker 1>dropping your kids off, but at least they're watching something

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<v Speaker 1>that's wonderful, and that's teaching them about God and giving

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<v Speaker 1>you just a minute to be able to worship together.

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<v Speaker 1>How many of you are grateful for our worship team?

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<v Speaker 1>I just love our church. I love how they lead

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<v Speaker 1>us every weekend. But if you're like me, elevation worship

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<v Speaker 1>is not just something that you watch on the weekends,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a sound that's coming out of your home.

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<v Speaker 1>The songs and the sermons and the stories of this

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<v Speaker 1>church are getting me through this season, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>they are too. How many of you were with us

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<v Speaker 1>last week when my husband preached about the plot twist?

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, my husband is not preached on

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<v Speaker 1>Father's Day in like a decade, and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>thinking last night that apparently, in addition to all of

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<v Speaker 1>the special anointings that are on pastor Stephen's life. He

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<v Speaker 1>also has a special Father's Day anointing. Am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>If you saw that message, you know how incredible it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you missed it, you need to go back

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<v Speaker 1>and watch it. It It was called plot Twist. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's in my top ten. I have a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>my top ten, but I think that was in my

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<v Speaker 1>top ten. I just love how God speaks to me

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<v Speaker 1>every single time the Word is preached on this stage,

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<v Speaker 1>and today is going to be no exception. My dear

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<v Speaker 1>friend Lisa Harper will be bringing the Word and this woman,

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<v Speaker 1>this woman can preach, and I'm not gonna lie. I

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<v Speaker 1>love a good girl preacher, and Lisa is one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorites. Lisa and her daughter, Missy, live in Nashville, Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>They drove down here to be with us this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So get ready because this woman knows the Word of God,

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<v Speaker 1>and every time I'm around her, I want to read

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<v Speaker 1>my Bible more and i want to be a better Christian.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna stop talking. I hope you're having a

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<v Speaker 1>great weekend. It's a great weekend here in Charlotte. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you help me welcome Lisa Harper to the stage. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying so hard to hug responsibly. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>driving here. We drove here yesterday from Nashville, Tennessee, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking about the breath. Y'all can sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so darling at home. I know you're already sitting

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<v Speaker 1>down half the hollar, like vegged out and stretching pants

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<v Speaker 1>on the couch. But I was thinking about the breadth

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<v Speaker 1>of elevation, what God has done in a really short

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<v Speaker 1>season to take the gospel all around the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, that kind of trajectory, I think it's almost unprecedented.

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<v Speaker 1>It's obviously miraculous God has authored the favor that he's

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<v Speaker 1>given elevation. But I thought, you don't get that broad

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<v Speaker 1>without having really really deep roots. And I love that

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<v Speaker 1>woman right there because she's got really really deep roots.

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<v Speaker 1>And you may only see her in a stream. You

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<v Speaker 1>may only see Holly on a screen. But I've been

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<v Speaker 1>through a couple of valleys in the last ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>and Holly Ferdick was one of the first person to

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<v Speaker 1>text prayers to speak life to me. So I am

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<v Speaker 1>delighted to be back in this house. I always come

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<v Speaker 1>here with just a little bit of trepidation is I

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<v Speaker 1>too watch Stephen Ferdick every weekend, and so some of

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<v Speaker 1>you are like, oh, you've got to be kidding me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Holly made me sound good, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>no Stephen Ferdick. This is going to be like a

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<v Speaker 1>mule at the Kentucky Derby. But hang with me, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think God has something for us, if nothing else,

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<v Speaker 1>he has something for me. Because Chris, I have been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting with baited breath. I don't even know what that means,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been so excited about being led in worship

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<v Speaker 1>live by y'all. I know what Pastor Stephen said last

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<v Speaker 1>week is true that as Christ followers, we carry the

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<v Speaker 1>church in our hearts and minds, and so the church

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<v Speaker 1>is open as long as you and I are open

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<v Speaker 1>to the working person in the Holy Spirit. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>just got to be honest with y'all and tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that my heart has been in a really stinker prodigal

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<v Speaker 1>season lately, and every time it sees the Zoom logo,

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<v Speaker 1>it just kind of crosses its arms and refuses to listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I miss corporate worship. As soon as y'all started, I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, I just I just feel like I want

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<v Speaker 1>to sink into this one to marinate in this It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's been incredible to be here with y'all. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been a less than lovely season. I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>remind y'all of the reasons why, but I'll start with homeschool.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my kid. For those of you who don't

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<v Speaker 1>know my story, I became a mom the same year

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<v Speaker 1>I went through menopause at fifty through the miracle of adoption.

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<v Speaker 1>And my kid is the most amazing child in the

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<v Speaker 1>world except for years, of course, that's a tie. But

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<v Speaker 1>but homeschooling full time once COVID caused schools in Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>to close, that was that was that was a faith opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>And I do have to confess that once I watched

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger King and countadate as biology for her. But I

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<v Speaker 1>I brought a two minute video that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>show y'all just this proof in case there's any truancy

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<v Speaker 1>officers in Epham all over the world. I bought proof

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<v Speaker 1>that we actually did have classes. This was an al

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<v Speaker 1>fresco class we had on etiquette. Just a little short,

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<v Speaker 1>two minute video. They'll show you what went on during

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<v Speaker 1>school at our house during COVID nineteen am, I, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you make that trashy noise again? Oh? The that noise? Yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>You put your you put your teeth, your top teeth

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<v Speaker 1>over your bottom lip, and then you like force air

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<v Speaker 1>out of one side, like blow a little more air

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<v Speaker 1>and just out of the side, like honey. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're too sweet to make trashy noises. Maybe we should

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<v Speaker 1>sing a song, I willship song. Maybe we should sing

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<v Speaker 1>a worship show. Which one do you want to sing?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably Jesus with dension, good grace. Oh I love that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay you started peace? Oh dan Ah savags in his blood.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one. It is a good one. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. How does the chorus go of that one?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think that is the chorus and Jesus our salvation,

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<v Speaker 1>our reathomtion. What comes after is in his blood jeezesus

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<v Speaker 1>blood of it? Right? Friend forfu ish keen do come?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what comes to us to that. I love that, tutor,

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<v Speaker 1>I do too. That's better than making those bad, trashy noises,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it it is? Do you think you're sweeter than me?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. Of YouTube, most of y'all are probably

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<v Speaker 1>sweeter than me. And have not been tutoring your children

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<v Speaker 1>and breaking when noises. It's been a long three months,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just my hats are is off to you

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<v Speaker 1>if you have been singing worship tunes like my kid

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<v Speaker 1>instead of making trashy noises like me. But to be

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<v Speaker 1>really honest, I'd like to kick you in the shins

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't suffered at all over the last three months,

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<v Speaker 1>because it has just been a rough go of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, I don't have to remind you of why

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<v Speaker 1>it's been rough. I know we've all been dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>our own kind of rough in our little corner of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. We had an especially intimate difficult thing happened recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone in my immediate family committed suicide nine weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and his death just ripped the fabric of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And over the last two months, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>some of my hope has been leaking out of those holes.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have had a harder time than normal hanging

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<v Speaker 1>on to hope. It's been almost like wet soap. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just having a hard time hanging on to it. And

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<v Speaker 1>my hope, my prayer is that none of you are

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<v Speaker 1>having to gree the loss of a loved one on

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<v Speaker 1>top of everything else that we're slogging through. For those

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<v Speaker 1>of you who have, I'm so sorry if you're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the loss of a loved one. Please please please

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<v Speaker 1>put some of those details in the chat, because we

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<v Speaker 1>would love to pray with you and for you. But

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what's been shoplifting your hope lately, I think

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<v Speaker 1>all of us can agree that that at least some

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<v Speaker 1>measure of our hope has been threatened in the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months. And so I thought it would be

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<v Speaker 1>so appropriate, so prudent, prudent, maybe not for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>certainly for me to do a deep dive in scripture

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<v Speaker 1>and try to recover some of the hope that these

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances have shoplifted. And so I want to talk before

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<v Speaker 1>we dive into scripture. If you're on the couch and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a Bible at your house, get up off

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<v Speaker 1>the counts and grab that pumpy and come back, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be in the Bible. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the room, I want to reiterate what Chad

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<v Speaker 1>said about sending them over to kids YouTube, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a little hot in here pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want you to be careful to not have

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<v Speaker 1>anybody under thirteen in your living room. Just send them

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<v Speaker 1>off for YouTube. Don't let them watch Tiger King like

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<v Speaker 1>I did with my child, because now I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be paying for therapy later. But anyway, before we dive

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<v Speaker 1>into the text, our first text is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>at the very big beginning of the book, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to remind us all that we get our New Testament

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<v Speaker 1>from Greek and the Greek concept of hope. The Greeks

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<v Speaker 1>pronounced hope. It's transliterated elpis, but it's pronounced l piece,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think that's cool. That peace is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in the Greek idea of hope. But the Greek concept

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<v Speaker 1>of hope was not an objective assessment. They didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>around at their circumstances and go, oh, here's what justifies

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<v Speaker 1>my hope this season. It was actually a subjective experience.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked back over their lives and if there was

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<v Speaker 1>proof of hope in their backstory, then they said, I

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<v Speaker 1>will be expectant about future hope. If they could look

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<v Speaker 1>back to tangible hope, they said, then I know there

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<v Speaker 1>will be proof of hope. There will definitely hope in

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<v Speaker 1>the future. Let me explain it like this, COVID nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>has effectively swaggered into my house like Dennis the Rock Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>And evidently the Keto boy in my mind was a

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<v Speaker 1>much weinier crop pants wearing Wayfish guy because the rock

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<v Speaker 1>just killed Keto up in our house. And as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>I have had an extreme uptick in carb consumption. And

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of that, I definitely am am up

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<v Speaker 1>about nineteen due to COVID, And so there is a

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<v Speaker 1>very real probability that I'm going to faint up in

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<v Speaker 1>this elevation house this morning because these banks are cutting

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<v Speaker 1>off my circulation. I shouldn't have done that, because if

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<v Speaker 1>I did that harder, you could lose an eye. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. Here is the positive thing about my

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<v Speaker 1>expansive tragedy. I saved pictures from last fall and last

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<v Speaker 1>fall I was really doing good on a low carb

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<v Speaker 1>life plan, and so I saved pictures of when I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually wearing pants with zippers. So I have a witness.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a tangible testimony that it is possible for

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<v Speaker 1>me to wear pants that do not have an elastic

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<v Speaker 1>waistban Can I get a witness? Are you with me?

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<v Speaker 1>There is tangible proof in my past that I could

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<v Speaker 1>go there again. Hope is not based on now, not

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<v Speaker 1>for christ followers. I love pastor seement Stephen sermon last

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<v Speaker 1>week on plot Twist. I loved that one. It's probably

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<v Speaker 1>in my top ten two Holly, I will never again

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<v Speaker 1>look at the geographical phrase Samaria and the New Testament

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<v Speaker 1>without thinking of his wordplay, his application some area, there

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<v Speaker 1>will be some areas will be reluctant to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. But the thing that I resonated with

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<v Speaker 1>most of all was when he talked about generational wells.

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<v Speaker 1>When he talked about generational wells, because what was implied

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<v Speaker 1>was that we will not have to worry about dying

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<v Speaker 1>of thirst in the now because there was ample provision

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<v Speaker 1>in our history. And that's where we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. We're going to start at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the book. So if you brought the book, turn to

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<v Speaker 1>Genesis chapter three. Now before we get there, John Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>will you throw me my glasses out of my purse,

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<v Speaker 1>they're in a blue case. Before we go there, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be in Genesis chapter three beginning when verse twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give you just a quick review you

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<v Speaker 1>probably know this, But at this point, at the very

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of redemptive history, the Creator, Redeemer, Father God has

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<v Speaker 1>already breathed the universe into existence out of nothing. And

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<v Speaker 1>after he looked at the sea and the sky and

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<v Speaker 1>the stars, all the creepy crawleys and eaters and elephants,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, something's missing, And so they got together. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a misspeak. Genesis one twenty six and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven explains to us that our God is in us.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a trinitarian god, God the Father, God the Sign,

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<v Speaker 1>and God the Holy Spirit. It says, God has an us, Augustine,

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Augustine, I'll have huge crushes and all the dead guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to be platonic about them because they're dead

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<v Speaker 1>and gone. I only have platonic crushes about living theologians.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Saint Augustine says that only the Christian God

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<v Speaker 1>is a perfect community unto himself Genesis one, twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty seven. Then let us make man in our image.

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<v Speaker 1>We were hard wired for a relationship. That's why when

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<v Speaker 1>some of y'all miss get together with your epham, you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't have a great week we were hard

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<v Speaker 1>wired for relationship. That's a whole nother story, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go there soon. Sorry, I'm tinkling, and not just because

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<v Speaker 1>this thinks. So God then breathes man into existence, and

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<v Speaker 1>then God takes a nap. I think it is so

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<v Speaker 1>stink and cool that our father God created Rest modeled

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<v Speaker 1>Rest in Genesis chapter two, y'all, that's before the fall.

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<v Speaker 1>The fall happens in Genesis chapter three. That means Rest

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<v Speaker 1>was not some divine accommodation for human weakness. Rest was

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<v Speaker 1>part of his perfect gift. Us. Isn't that good as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole other sermon? So anyway, He's created the heavens

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<v Speaker 1>and the earth. He's created man, he's taken a nap,

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<v Speaker 1>wakes up really refreshed from his nap, looks around and goes,

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<v Speaker 1>something is missing, something beautiful is missing, and he creates woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where the story starts getting sticky because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people then put hierarchy in the story. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lay it here too long because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to take the heat. I want Stephen to

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<v Speaker 1>take the heat. But the Hebrew word used for woman

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<v Speaker 1>is easier. It's translated helper in our Bibles. You know

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<v Speaker 1>who else describes himself as an easer fourteen times in

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<v Speaker 1>Genesis God, Man and Woman. And that was never intended

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<v Speaker 1>to be a hierarchical relationship with suppression and with oppression.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always intended to be a mutual, helpful relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Not going to go there because Eve does drop the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>because soon after she's created, she gets deceived by this

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<v Speaker 1>really rotten, slithery fruits salesman named Satan, and she takes

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<v Speaker 1>a bite out of some of his rotten fruit, and

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<v Speaker 1>the trajectory of mankind has been downhill ever since. We're

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<v Speaker 1>joining the story right after she has rebelled against God

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<v Speaker 1>and hooked up with the fruit salesman Genesis three, chapter

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. And the Lord God made for Adam and

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<v Speaker 1>for his wife garments of skin and clothe them. Then

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord God said, behold, the man has become like

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<v Speaker 1>one of us, and knowing good and evil. Now lest

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<v Speaker 1>he reach out his hand and take also over the

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<v Speaker 1>tree of life and eat and live forever. Therefore, the

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<v Speaker 1>Lord God send him out from the garden of Eden

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<v Speaker 1>to work the ground from which he was taken. He

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<v Speaker 1>drove out the man, and at the east of the

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<v Speaker 1>Garden of Eden. He placed the Cherubim in a flaming

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<v Speaker 1>sword that turned every which way to guard the way

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<v Speaker 1>to the Tree of life. Now, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>y'all get mental pictures when you read the Bible. Mom

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<v Speaker 1>was Baptist, Dad was Pentecostal. So I'm Babtcostal, which means

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<v Speaker 1>I love to wiggle in worship, but I have no rhythm.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've heard all these stories since I was

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<v Speaker 1>teeny You've seen most of them flannel graft. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I used to hear that story as a kid, I

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<v Speaker 1>immediately got a mental picture of Adam and Eve. I

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<v Speaker 1>pictured Adam as being very lean, and this is way

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<v Speaker 1>before Peyloa, when it was cool for guys to be lean.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just kind of a lean, weak looking man,

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<v Speaker 1>stringy hair extensions, and kind of threw his own wife

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<v Speaker 1>under the bus. You know, I didn't need the fruit

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<v Speaker 1>she did. And oh, cover my junk. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>just he just he. Adam does nothing for me. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't blow my skirt up. And then Eve, I think

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<v Speaker 1>of her as the woman I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>because she's I mean, let's just face it, she's trashy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she does exactly what God tells her not

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and that's after she's paraded around nude. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean she is trashy. So I picture her like the

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<v Speaker 1>trashy girls that hung out of the skating rink and

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<v Speaker 1>town I grew up in in central Florida. So I

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<v Speaker 1>picture her with kind of an ac DC tube top

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<v Speaker 1>and Daisy Dukes and like, you know, really bad hair,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's got tat since she's only, oh, I don't know, fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's just you know, this girl is rough,

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<v Speaker 1>bad news. So when it says God drove them out

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<v Speaker 1>of the garden of Eden, my first response used to

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<v Speaker 1>be good riddance. You know, he's a sissy and she's trashy.

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<v Speaker 1>Good riddance, And I kind of pictured him just booting

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<v Speaker 1>them out of glory. Y'all. That's not at all the

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<v Speaker 1>contexts of Genesis three. That word drove out comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the Hebrew word garosh. I can't pronounce it well because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get enough gutturle in my throat, but it's garash,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's used redemptively in Exodus twice. For the moment

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<v Speaker 1>this season when God drove his people the theocracy of

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<v Speaker 1>Israel out of captivity toward the promise. Like us, they

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<v Speaker 1>were about as smart as sheep, so they had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>really comfortable in captivity. God had to rock them out

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<v Speaker 1>of a rut to get them from captivity to the promise.

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<v Speaker 1>The word is he's in nexus twice, totally redemptive context.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not being hurt, they're not being ushered toward their

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<v Speaker 1>own death. They're actually being ushered toward their own freedom

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<v Speaker 1>and life. But it says they were driven out toward

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<v Speaker 1>freedom away from Egypt, redemptive context. And then in First

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel chapter twenty one, that's after David he's running away

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<v Speaker 1>from Saul. Remember Saul was the first king of Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a narcissistic nut job, was really jealous of

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<v Speaker 1>David because David had more followers than him, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to kill him, and so David flees for

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<v Speaker 1>his life and he ends up fleeing into enemy territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember who their arch enemy was. Gonna talk back, you're

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<v Speaker 1>still social distance and spit. Let's go Philistines. So he

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<v Speaker 1>finds himself in Philistine territory, finds himself standing before the

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<v Speaker 1>King of the Philistines, the King of goth this first

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel nineteen, if you want to check me. And when

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<v Speaker 1>he stands before the King of goth he realizes, oh goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gracious, I'm wearing Goliath's sword. Do you remember who

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<v Speaker 1>Goliath was. I mean, he was like the big dog

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<v Speaker 1>daddy of the Philistines. You remember, He's this probably eight

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<v Speaker 1>foot man. When David before he'd even started using you know,

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<v Speaker 1>claton or anything for his skin. Is that for girls?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is that for acne? Is it for acney? Oh? Allergies?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. I was trying to do an acne medication.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't pull one fast enough. So anyway, before David's

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<v Speaker 1>even gone through puberty, he ends up killing Goliath, you

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<v Speaker 1>remember the story, with a slingstone and slingshot stone, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he kills the giant. Well, from that day forward,

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<v Speaker 1>David is enemy number one to the Philistines. He utterly

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<v Speaker 1>humiliated them. Now Here it is years later, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>up in the middle of Philistine standing in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the King of the Philistines, wearing Goliath's sword. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about waving a red flag in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a bull. I mean, surely he is about to get

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<v Speaker 1>his own head cut off. And that's why David starts

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<v Speaker 1>to feign madness. And he did what no other Israelite

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<v Speaker 1>man would do. He drooled in his beard. And by

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<v Speaker 1>feigning madness and dribbling in his beard, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge no no for Orthodox Jewish Men in that era

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<v Speaker 1>of history. Gath, the men of Gath, the soldiers of

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<v Speaker 1>the king of Goths, say we need to let this

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<v Speaker 1>guy go. Otherwise, an innocent, crazy man's blood is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on your hands, and it says, and thus

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<v Speaker 1>David was drove out. You see God's merciful sovereignty there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's about to get killed and God drives him out

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<v Speaker 1>for his own good for survival. It's immediately after God

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<v Speaker 1>rescues him from the King of Gath the David writes

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<v Speaker 1>Psalm thirty four, one of my favorite psalms, where he says,

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<v Speaker 1>those who look to the Lord, their faces are radiance.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll never be covered with shame. He's just totally shamed

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<v Speaker 1>himself by drilling in his beard, pretending to be a madman.

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<v Speaker 1>God uses that drives him out from certain death, and

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<v Speaker 1>immediately after that he says, my face will never be

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<v Speaker 1>covered with shame. Because of how you drove me out

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<v Speaker 1>to victory God. It's in that same psalm that we

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<v Speaker 1>get God is close to the broken arty. He's near

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<v Speaker 1>to us when our lives feel crushed, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>a theme verse for this season in our world and

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<v Speaker 1>the world at large. So now when I think of

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<v Speaker 1>Genesis three, I don't think of a girl on a

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<v Speaker 1>tube top. I think of our gracious God taken his

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<v Speaker 1>kids by the arms and redemptively ushering them out of Eden.

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<v Speaker 1>Not because he's a unibrowed librarian and is about to

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<v Speaker 1>smack him over the head with the Bible, but because

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<v Speaker 1>he knows what they don't, and he knows that they

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<v Speaker 1>come back and they eat from the tree of Life,

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<v Speaker 1>they will be forever frozen in Eden, forever separated from

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<v Speaker 1>the intimacy with Him that they were created for. So

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<v Speaker 1>he begins to drive them out, heard them toward recreating

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<v Speaker 1>the intimacy that he had fashioned them for. It's such

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<v Speaker 1>a redemptive passage, y'all. There is so much hope in scripture.

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<v Speaker 1>When people tell me the Bible is boring, I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you may have sat under a boring Bible, teacher. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bible itself is not boring, nor is it punitive. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a divine love story. It's filled with hope. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>head to the right, and if you can prove to

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<v Speaker 1>me that you've actually been spending your quiet time in numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically numbers chapter twenty seven, I will send you twenty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that we advocate betting here at Elevation, but I

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<v Speaker 1>want to take you to another passage. And this one

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<v Speaker 1>is just stunny. It's just one that we usually skip

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<v Speaker 1>over because it sounds like it's one of those boring

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<v Speaker 1>Old Testament passages. Isn't it funny how so many of

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<v Speaker 1>us think of the God of the Old Testament as

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<v Speaker 1>like this angry autocrat and the God of the New

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<v Speaker 1>Testament as Jesus with brettgirl hair extensions, like all warm

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<v Speaker 1>and fuzzy. You know, if that is true, then Genesis one,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six and twenty seven isn't. If that's true, then

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<v Speaker 1>God is bipolar. It's not true. Drives me nuts when

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<v Speaker 1>people say, well, Jesus said in the red letters, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't say the black letters, because last I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Godfather. God's said and got the Holy Spirit. But

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<v Speaker 1>when we stop stepping onion, based toes Okay numbers twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Then drew near the daughters of Zilofah had the son

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<v Speaker 1>of Heafer, the son of Gilead, son of Maker, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other words. The names of his daughters

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<v Speaker 1>were Mila, Noah, Hogla. Now I need to stop there

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<v Speaker 1>for just a minute, because I know a lot of you,

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<v Speaker 1>especially you younger mamas, really want to name your kid's

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<v Speaker 1>biblical names to impress your small group. Don't be working

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<v Speaker 1>with Hogla, Hogla. That's just hard. That's not a good name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the Bible, but it's not a good name.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't replicate that name. Hogla, Milka and Tirza. And they

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<v Speaker 1>stood before Moses and before Elizer, the priests, and before

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<v Speaker 1>chiefs and all the congregation, at the entrance of the

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<v Speaker 1>tent of meetings, saying, our father died in the wilderness.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not among the company of those who gathered

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<v Speaker 1>themselves together against the Lord and the company of Karab,

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<v Speaker 1>but died for his own sin. And he had no sons.

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<v Speaker 1>Why should the name of our father be taken away

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<v Speaker 1>from his clan because he had no son? Give to

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<v Speaker 1>us a possession among our fathers. Brothers. Now you better bet.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point in ancient history, everybody who's watching this

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<v Speaker 1>take place start equipping out their cell phones. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I Am going to instant story this because they are

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<v Speaker 1>just about to be fright into a great spot of oblivion.

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Because at this point in ancient history, women had basically

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the same value as a good milk cow. Women were

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<v Speaker 1>regarded as chattel, something a man could own, and the

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<v Speaker 1>law of the land was primogeniture. Primogeniture, if you remember

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<v Speaker 1>from high school or college, history, meant that the firstborn

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>son inherited all of his father's estate upon his father's death.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what reigns during this period of Israel's history. And

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<v Speaker 1>so these daughters of Zilofah had they have the hut

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<v Speaker 1>spot to go against the law of culture, come before

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<v Speaker 1>Moses and the high Priest and go, we think we

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<v Speaker 1>should get daddy's land. You just imagine all of Israel's

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<v Speaker 1>like they just assume the lightning bolt is just about

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<v Speaker 1>to come out and fry these cheeky jacks. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what happens. All this is stunning. I so want

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<v Speaker 1>to read this to my militant friends who are burning

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<v Speaker 1>their bras and tell them that floppiness is not necessar.

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<v Speaker 1>Moses brought their case before the Lord verse five, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord said to Moses, the daughters of Zilofah had

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<v Speaker 1>are right. You shall give them possession of an inheritance

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>among their father's brothers, and transfer the inheritance of their

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<v Speaker 1>father to them. And you shall speak to the people

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel, saying, if a man dies and has no son,

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<v Speaker 1>then you shall transfer his inheritance to his daughter. Y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>What that passage that we tend to skip over says

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<v Speaker 1>is that our creator, Redeemer is not some autocrat or

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<v Speaker 1>a massagynist to enjoy is punishing his people, But instead

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>he has always been actively redeeming culture. He's always been

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<v Speaker 1>actively restoring the dignity that others have stolen from his

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>image bears. This book is filled with generational walls of hope, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Just over and over and over again, guys, if you'll

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<v Speaker 1>stay with me for just one mo more second, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got one more estrogen passage, but I'll be fast. Deuteronomy,

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<v Speaker 1>chapter twenty two, Verse twenty eight. If a man meets

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<v Speaker 1>a virgin who's not betrothed and seizes her in lies

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>with her and they are found, than the man who

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<v Speaker 1>lay with her shall give to the father of the

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<v Speaker 1>woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he has not violated her, he may not divorce

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<v Speaker 1>her all his days. Now, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>really heard what I was saying in the ESV there,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is nasty town. I mean, that is just

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<v Speaker 1>awful if you read it at first glance without the

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<v Speaker 1>sociohistorical context. Because what that is saying is a young

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<v Speaker 1>woman who has been violated by a man. That sounds

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>like that young young man bribes her daddy and then

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>she has to marry her violator. So it sure sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like God is advocating the insult be added to injury.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to understand the context, y'all. Any text in

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<v Speaker 1>this love story can be used as a proof text

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<v Speaker 1>that is not true if you take it out of context.

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<v Speaker 1>In the context, God's people have just come out of

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<v Speaker 1>Egyptian captivity, where they have been under what we could

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<v Speaker 1>call the first iteration of Sharia law and the culture

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that they had been in for four hundred years, said

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<v Speaker 1>that any young woman twelve and over who was not

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<v Speaker 1>married or betruthed was vulnerable to be violated by any

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<v Speaker 1>man who so chose. And the consequence of the man

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<v Speaker 1>who violated her is, guess what, a nothing, not a

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>slap on the wrist, not a traffic violation. And so

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<v Speaker 1>one of my professors at Denver Seminary, I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>He puts it like this. He said, So God steps

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<v Speaker 1>over the fence of ancient culture, and he says, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to violate my baby girls anymore. Have you

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>ever wondered why girls in this era of history got

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>married at twelve? This is why you ever wonder why

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>women don't go alone to the well. This is why

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<v Speaker 1>he says, from now on, any of you idiots who

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<v Speaker 1>are even thinking about violating one of my daughters, here's

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the deal. If you do so, you will set up

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>a four oh one k for her through her daddy. God.

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<v Speaker 1>This is unheard of. Women were now even allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>hold property at this time in history. He says, you'll

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>set up an account soci'll be financially independent. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>will give her your name, not to reviolate her, but

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<v Speaker 1>to begin to restore some of the dignity you stole.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you do not take care of her

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<v Speaker 1>and provide for her for the rest of her life.

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<v Speaker 1>You're liable to get stoned by the rest of the community,

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<v Speaker 1>big boy. I heard this passage quoted about a year

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<v Speaker 1>ago in a blog by a woman who is trying

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>to prove that God is a massagist, and I thought,

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>you've missed the whole thing. The whole point of this

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<v Speaker 1>is that God has always been in the process of

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<v Speaker 1>redeeming clue, of restoring the value that other people have

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>stolen from us. This is a book of hope, y'all.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>There is hope on every page. We don't always mine

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it correctly because we read the Bible lazy. We want

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<v Speaker 1>something we can tweet instead of something that we can

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>chew on. But the Bible is filled with hope. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>close to landing. Just two more passages. Head to the

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<v Speaker 1>right to Matthew's Gospel to Matthew Chapter eighteen. And some

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<v Speaker 1>of you, how many of y'all are eights on the enneagram?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight's on the inneagram. My guess would be some of

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.959
<v Speaker 1>you eights are very familiar with this passage. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a female eight, you've probably cross stitched it. It might

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<v Speaker 1>be hanging on your wall Matthew eighteen, beginning in verse fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>If your brother sends against you, go and tell him

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<v Speaker 1>his fault between you and him alone. If he listens

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to you, you have gained your brother. But if he

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<v Speaker 1>does not listen, take one or two others along with you.

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<v Speaker 1>That every change may be, that every charge, excuse me,

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.

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<v Speaker 1>If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to

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<v Speaker 1>the church, Tell it to everybody. Go ahead and get

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>on EPAM and just just blow the news everywhere in church.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he refuses to listen even to the church,

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<v Speaker 1>let him be to you as a gentile and a

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<v Speaker 1>tax collector. When I was in high school, we had

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<v Speaker 1>a youth pastor for a season who was really, really passionate,

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<v Speaker 1>and he used to wave his Bible around like this.

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>When I was in my twenties, I tried to imitate

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it and I hit a woman upside the head with Genesis.

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I just went out of my Bible and hit this

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>woman in the head. I was like, I'm sorry, I'm

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>so sorry. They never invited me back. But he would

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>swing his Bible around quote from Matthew eighteen, and you

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>would tell all of us in the youth ministry that

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<v Speaker 1>we were supposed to go and verbally confront, better yet

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>assault our friends who were partying after football games or

0:34:52.200 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>smoking pot, or were still engaged in heavy petting. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm older than the median of elevation, But can I

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<v Speaker 1>get a witness? Did any of y'all have a pastor

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>who used the phraseology heavy petting? Do you remember, Holly?

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>And it confused me, I mean confused me a lot.

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember being at this kind of fire and Brimstone revival.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>This was the late seventies. I was in middle school

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>in central Florida and a pastor got up and started

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 1>swinging his Bible around. Veins were popping out, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>any of you who've been involved in heavy petting wants

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>you to come to the altar and repent, you know.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'd come there on the van with our little

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>First Baptist church. And I was nervous because I was

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>afraid the van would leave me because I didn't really

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>always believe Billy Graham when he said they'd stay. But

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I sat there and I thought, half I half I.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love our beagle. We had the sweetest

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:56.879
<v Speaker 1>beagle named smoky, and I thought, have I just inadvertently

0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 1>like rubbed her fur the wrong way or maybe pet

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>her with a little bit too much? Wait? Have I

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>caused my dog canine injury? I don't know. This verse

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>has been used, y'all to shame teenagers who struggled with,

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, frisky feelings. I think since the beginning of

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Baptist time anyway. It's also been used to justify ecclesiastical expulsion.

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>In other words, this passage Matthew eighteen has been used

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:34.720
<v Speaker 1>as the sole passage to justify kicking people out of church.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hear me? Now? I want to take just

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 1>a second here, because I'm not advocating for anarchy in church.

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm really not for church to be a healthy, thriving community.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>There have to be parameters. This is not just crazy town,

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and so we need spiritual leaders, we need people holding

0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:01.439
<v Speaker 1>us accountable. But I really think that when we take

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>this verse as the proof text to kick people out

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of fellowship, I think we're missing the main point Jesus

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>was making. It's right there in front of us, and

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I've missed it my whole life. I am fifty six

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>years old. I have a master's in theology. I'm two

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>years away, god willing from having a doctorate and redemptive hermaeutics.

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I have studied my behind off because I'm single and

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 1>it's the only way I get any kind of endorphins.

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>And so I've got scads of books on exit Jesus

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and catology and redemptive hermonutics and socio historical contexts. But

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until this last summer I was sitting in

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>a class listening to a professor unpacked the redemptive thread

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>in Matthew eighteen that I went Jesus. It's Jesus speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesus says, treat them as taxs and gentiles. How

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>did Jesus always treat tax collectors and gentiles? I mean

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Matthew's writing it. Matthew was a tax collector before he

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>encountered Jesus, and Jesus said, come be a fisher of

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>men with me. Might change your Facebook status. You're going

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to be an evangelist, but you were a tax collector.

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember Luke nineteen? If you don't remember it,

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>right off, Hannah about you? You sang Luke nineteen, There

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>was wee little man, and a wee little man was

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>he member, Zachias climbed up in a sycamore tree to

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>meet Jesus. Y'all, he was the CEO of the IRS

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 1>division in Jericho. It was implied by Doctor Luke that

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Zachias got filthy rich by padding to what he was

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 1>assessing his Jewish countrymen and then skimming off the top

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>before wiring those funds to erme. I mean, this was

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>not just a tax collector. This was a tax cotor

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>without scruples. And yet when Jesus meets zach do you

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>think he calls them out for his duplicity. Now he

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>invites himself over for dinner. And after Zach and Jesus

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 1>hang out, do you remember Zach's response, I'll give half

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>of what I own to the poor, half of what

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I own to prison ministry, and to orphans and Uganda,

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>and to feed the homeless here in Charlotte. I'll give

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>half of what I own. I'm so happy to trade

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>in my billey for a smart car. And anyone whom

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm defrauded, I'll repay them four times what I initially stole.

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Treat them as tax collectors and gentiles. Remember Genesis, well,

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>when God says to our great great Granddaddy Abraham. Through you,

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>all of the nations of the earth will be blessed.

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 1>They'll all meet Jesus. The promise goes all the way

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>back to the beginning. It's fulfilled in the working person

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of Jesus Christ. Paul said, my whole ministry is so

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 1>that gentiles will come to know Jesus. Two thirds of

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the New Testament is about outsiders being drawn into the

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>unconditional love of our creator redeemer. Treat them as gentiles

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and tax collectors. Do you really think he intended that

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>to be punitive, y'a. We used the Bible as a club,

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and it was never meant to be used as a club.

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>It's true, it's authoritative. There are parameters for abundant life

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>in here. This isn't a joke, but it's not punitive.

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>We're going to land in Hebrews. Hebrews, chapter four, verse twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Any of you who grew up in church, hoighly, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you could quote this one backwards, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first verses that we learned when we

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<v Speaker 1>are growing up. If you've listened to pastor Steven for

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<v Speaker 1>any length of time, you've heard this verse, you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>this whole book preach Hebrews, Chapter four, verse twelve. For

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<v Speaker 1>the Word of God is living an active sharper than

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<v Speaker 1>any two edged sword, piercing to the division of the

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<v Speaker 1>soul and the spirit of joints and of marrow, and

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<v Speaker 1>discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Again, this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those passages I used to swing my

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<v Speaker 1>Bible around in the twenties, in my twenties, not the twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not that old, but I would use that passage

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<v Speaker 1>basically to guilt people into being in a Bible study.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't until recently that I started really looking

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<v Speaker 1>at that verse and I thought, oh my goodness, now, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>let me qualify this because I'm probably going to step

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<v Speaker 1>on some toes. I am a Bible banger through and through.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in the veracity and the authority of that

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<v Speaker 1>text from cover to cover, God willing, I will spend

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life talking about what's between those

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 1>leather bound pages. I love this book. It's not just

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 1>a book to me, it's life. To me. Everything I've

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>ever needed for life in Godliness I find on these pages.

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not a textbook. It's not a rule book. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a collection of benign morality tales. This is life, Gus.

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<v Speaker 1>But I took that verse out of context in Hebrews.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was all about the Bible. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember when Hebrews was written, Colleen, You'll know between sixty

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy a D between sixty and seventy eight D

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>is She's not uh huh uh huh. Do y'all also

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>remember a D. A lot of people think that's after death.

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>It's actually Latin and o domini the year of Our

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<v Speaker 1>Lord b C is before Christ. Do you know they've

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<v Speaker 1>changed the history books now and b C is now

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<v Speaker 1>BCEE before the Common era, And instead of it being

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<v Speaker 1>a d Ano Domini the year of our Lord, it's

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<v Speaker 1>ce Common Era. Just a little side note. Interesting how

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's starting to throw Jesus out of history, and yet

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Jesus is the foundation of the history of hope anyway,

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.240
<v Speaker 1>wit and written between sixty and seventy AD. Between sixty

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and seventy eight, there were very few other epistles, New

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Testament epistles we've now called books being circulated. The very

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 1>first collection, loose collection of most of the New Testament

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>books was in two hundred. The very first formal collection

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>of all twenty seven New Testament books is in three

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>sixty seven I think AD. That was by and I

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<v Speaker 1>think something anathemas or anaphasia or something some mix of

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>those terms. And then it was formally canonized into the

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>very first New Testament of the Council of Hippo in

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>three ninety three AD. What do all those boring historical

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>facts me means that right here, when this pastor is

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>encouraging his sheep, because his sheep, like us, were really tired,

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and his sheep, like us, were running out of hope,

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and he said, I want you to remember that Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>logos Greek Jesus. That word is used in John one

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning was the word, and the word was God.

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>The word was with God. This is before we had

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<v Speaker 1>inscripturted text. He's saying, Jesus is sharper than a two

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.959
<v Speaker 1>edged short soord, Jesus knows the motive of your heart,

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and Jesus knows you're running out of hope. Jesus. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all about Jesus, y'all. When we segregate the God who

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 1>loves us from inscripturated text, it becomes punitive when we

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 1>realize this is all about Jesus. This is the generational

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 1>well from which we can draw hope. In the driest season,

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you look back and go our creative redeemer has always

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>been in the process of restoring the dignity that has

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>been stolen from us, of redeeming the mistakes that you

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and I have made, oftentimes against each other. I can't

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>even mention Hebrews without thinking of something that happened recently.

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I was speaking at a conference for people who were

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>in addiction Recovery from Addiction conference, and I have never

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>struggled with alcohol or drugs or opioids, but I identify

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 1>as a recovering addict because one of my favorite theologians,

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>a guy named doctor ed T. Welch, wrote a book

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<v Speaker 1>called A Banquet in the Grave, and in that book

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>he said that all addictions are ultimately a disorder of worship.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, if you don't put Jesus in the

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 1>biggest hole in your soul, you'll run to the wrong

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>things of the wrong people. So I thought, I'm at

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 1>home with these recovering addicts. And it was on a

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Friday night. Then it went through Saturday Friday night, there's

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<v Speaker 1>this woman during worship who came up front. And this

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>church wasn't quite as wiggly as we are here at Elevation.

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 1>It was a little more, a little less demonstrative, and

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>so she was the only woman upfront, only person upfront,

0:45:55.920 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and she was completely oblivious to any body else about

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>six seven hundred of us at this conference. She was

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:07.720
<v Speaker 1>just dancing and dipping and twirling, and I found myself

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 1>distracted by her as we were singing. I thought, I'd

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>love to hear her story, because in my experience, people

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 1>who were able to kind of step outside from that

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>world most of us live in where we're afraid of

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>what anybody else thinks. People who out operate independent of

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>other people's approval usually have these incredible backstories. And I thought, man,

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to know her story, and so I was excited.

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<v Speaker 1>The next morning, I went to the sanctuary early because

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I was teaching that morning, and I went in early

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>just to pray and prepare her. And she was in

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 1>there with the only two people in the sanctuary. She

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 1>was up front. So I walked up and I introduced

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:48.280
<v Speaker 1>myself to her, and she said her name was Joyce,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, Joyce, I just want to thank you

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>because I was trying to focus on Jesus, but I

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>got distracted a few times by you last night. I

0:46:56.280 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 1>was just really undone by how un restricted you were

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>dear in worship. I mean, it was just you and Jesus,

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not quite that free yet. So I really

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.839
<v Speaker 1>loved the model that you set before me. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it also made me wonder what your backstory is, because

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 1>that kind of praise usually comes from someone who's been

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 1>delivered from a lot. And she said, oh, yes, ma'am,

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been delivered, and she launched into this story that

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 1>could have come from cable. I mean, just horrible backstory

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<v Speaker 1>of abuse. And she was a hardcore addict and alcoholic

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>for about thirteen years, and then she met Jesus, and

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Jesus just invaded every dark corner of her life and

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>she became just a passionate follower of Jesus Christ was

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>involved in addiction ministries and celebrate recovery had really impacted

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 1>her community, and I thought, you know, I mean, that's

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 1>why she dances like that. Well later on, just maybe

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes later, I'm standing up on stage sharking my message,

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and I look down and Joyce is just sitting right there,

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh, my goodness, she's got such a

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:13.839
<v Speaker 1>great voice, because as soon as she introduced herself, I thought,

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>she is like a three pack a day smoker. Shut it,

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 1>U gravelly awesome voice. And I thought, I'm going to

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.719
<v Speaker 1>get Joyce to read from the passage I'm reading. I

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>happened to be in Hebrews, and so normally I will

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<v Speaker 1>warn people if I'm going to ask them to read

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 1>something that i'm doing, you know, I'll tell them ahead

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of time. Even in our Bible study. I'm like, is

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 1>it cool if I ask you to pray today? I

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:37.720
<v Speaker 1>don't like to, you know, shock people, And so normally

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I would have asked Joyce, but at this point I hadn't.

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Just I was so overwhelmed by how much I loved

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:43.399
<v Speaker 1>her story and she's sitting right there, and I thought,

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 1>we've got to use that voice. So I jump off

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:47.880
<v Speaker 1>stage and I go, y'all, this is my new friend, Joyce,

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and I just love her heart and I love her voice.

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So she's going to read the text for us today.

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 1>And Joyce kind of looked a little flustered, and then

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>she took the mic, and she read the passage, tripped

0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 1>over a few of the words in the beginning, but

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>then you know, got a great even read the passage

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.280
<v Speaker 1>and everybody clapped politely, and I was like, dange Joyce,

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I go up and I finish well. Maybe four hours

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:08.840
<v Speaker 1>later the conference is over. I'm in the back of

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the room and Joyce comes up and just kind of

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 1>sheepishly says, miss Lisa, I need to tell you how

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you having me read that passage impacted me. And I

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, man, you know, I'm sure sure I've

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>somehow stepped on a bruise where she's afraid of reading

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>in public or something. I so should have asked her.

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And I said, oh, Joyce, I'm so sorry if I

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 1>wounded you, and she says, no, no, I need to

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.439
<v Speaker 1>tell you a little more of my story. She said,

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I told you that God had healed me of alcoholism,

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and then I've been clean for a long long time,

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:42.360
<v Speaker 1>been sober for a long long time. She goes, what

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell you was that nine months ago I

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>fell off the wagon. And she said, nine months ago

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I was engaged to be married only guy I ever trusted,

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:52.759
<v Speaker 1>And she said two weeks for the wedding. I found

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 1>out he'd been stepping out with my best friend, and

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 1>she said, I was just devastated, and so she said,

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I turned back to Jack Daniels to drown my sorrows.

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>And she said I spent the weekend after I found

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 1>out he stepped out on me. She said, I was

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 1>just drunk as a skun all weekend. And she said

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>when I sobered up on Monday, I came into church

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 1>where she had been on staff, and she said, I

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:18.320
<v Speaker 1>told the leaders. I said, yeah, I fell off the wagon.

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I told them why, and she said they were really

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>really gracious, but then they were also very very sober

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:29.279
<v Speaker 1>in how they followed through, and they said, we can

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 1>no longer have you on staff because of you having

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that mistake, especially since you work with addicts, and so

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 1>they asked for her letter of resignation. She left staff,

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>and she ended up leaving that particular church because she said,

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:45.759
<v Speaker 1>even though I wanted to stay there, I wanted to

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:47.800
<v Speaker 1>walk it out. She said, Lisa, every time I walked

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:49.919
<v Speaker 1>in the sainctuary, I felt I had a scarlet leather

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a for alcoholic on my chest. And she said, I

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't do it. So After a couple of months,

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I moved my membership to another church across town. She said,

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell you this morning, and that this is

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:05.839
<v Speaker 1>the church that I was asked to resign from. And

0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:09.320
<v Speaker 1>she said, and last night was the very first time

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I stepped foot in the sanctuary again. And I said, oh, Joyce,

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry because I thought, here I've ruined what

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:23.439
<v Speaker 1>God had shaped to be this precious homecoming. And she said,

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:27.400
<v Speaker 1>oh no, no no, no, you didn't ruin anything. She said, Lisa,

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't possibly have known that. When I was a

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 1>little girl, I was illiterate. My mom didn't send me

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to kindergarten. And on the first day of the first grade,

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I walked into a little school in Appalachia and the

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.840
<v Speaker 1>teacher was a new teacher, didn't know my story, and

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>she called on me to read and she said I

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 1>stood up, and she said, I can still remember how

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.840
<v Speaker 1>bad my legs were shaking because I didn't know any

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 1>of my A, B, and c's, much less how to

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 1>string them together. So she said, I just looked at

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:01.400
<v Speaker 1>those letters on the page. They were like hieroglyphics, and

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I just recited something I had heard from one of

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 1>mom's soap operas, hoping that somehow the line I spoke

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.479
<v Speaker 1>was close to what was in this book Little Jack

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 1>and Jane Primer. And she said, all the kids started dying, laughing,

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and they all started calling me stupid. And she said

0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that name stuck all the way through high school graduation.

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 1>So she said, I learned if I was ever going

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to speak out loud, say anything in public, in school

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>or at work, she said, I would obsessively go over

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>every single word that I was going to read or

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I was going to speak, because I was so nervous

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 1>about ever speaking publicly. She said, But when you called

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:45.959
<v Speaker 1>me out of seven hundred people, you called me by name,

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and you said, I want Joyce to read, she said,

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like the heavens rolled back and God himself said,

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that's my girl. Listen to her. And she said, today

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:04.400
<v Speaker 1>this place of same has become a place of honor

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to me. Don't y'all want to be a little more

0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 1>like Joyce? Don't you want to be so undone by

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<v Speaker 1>the redemption and our story, by the redemption and the

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<v Speaker 1>stories behind us, that we can't help but express some

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<v Speaker 1>of that hope to the world around us, a hope

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<v Speaker 1>that's world that's desperate for hope, y'all. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing Jesus in the season. Can you imagine how

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<v Speaker 1>hopeless some of the precious image bearers that you rub

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders with, not really now, but you rub shoulders six

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<v Speaker 1>feet away from now are. People are dying for real hope,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have it. If you walk with Jesus, we

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<v Speaker 1>have it. You may have forgotten it, you may have

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<v Speaker 1>misplaced it. But the reservoir of hope for Christ followers,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bottomless. We can alway reach into generational wells. There

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<v Speaker 1>are millions in here and draw living hope, Peter says,

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<v Speaker 1>living hope, not stagnant hope, living hope. Shall just close

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes and bow your heads, and when you sit

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<v Speaker 1>for just a second, wherever you are, and if so

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<v Speaker 1>many of you are in your cars, you're maybe at

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<v Speaker 1>work watching a laptop, you're at home on the couch,

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<v Speaker 1>still a little bit grumpy that it was me and

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<v Speaker 1>not Stephen, would you just sit for a minute and

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<v Speaker 1>ask God to open your eyes to the hope that

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<v Speaker 1>is already yours. Ask Him to give you the grace

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<v Speaker 1>to lean back into the generations of hope that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been forged from the eternal hope we're walking toward. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>we can fester you this morning, as your sons and daughters,

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<v Speaker 1>that all too often we look like that passage and

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<v Speaker 1>proverbs that says, hope deferred, hope delayed makes a heart sick.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jesus, some of us feel just flat heart sick

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<v Speaker 1>this season because it's been harder than usual to hang

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<v Speaker 1>on to hope. And so we need you, keen, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>we need your Holy Spirit to quicken our minds and

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<v Speaker 1>our hearts. To remind us of our history, redemptive history,

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<v Speaker 1>the history that you have woven us into, the history

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<v Speaker 1>that you've always been actively a part of, redeeming, restoring,

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<v Speaker 1>setting captives free. Oh Lord Jesus, remind us that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no room for dry bones in our hearts, no room

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<v Speaker 1>for dry bones. Thank you, thank you, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>this reminder that you see us. You've always seen us,

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<v Speaker 1>you've always loved us, you've always been actively in the

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<v Speaker 1>process of calling us home. Teach us what it is

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<v Speaker 1>to rest in your hope. We will be so careful, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>to give you and you alone the honor and the

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<v Speaker 1>glory and the praise for what you do this day

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