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Speaker 1: Welcome into Texans All Access on a Tuesday. I'm your

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Speaker 1: hostdp's to do along with Mark VanderMeer. We're inside the

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Speaker 1: hunday Texans Radio studio. Where the crowd. Where's the crowd?

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Speaker 1: The crowd's not here normally. Drudeordy is going to be

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Speaker 1: joining us in a little bit. As I'm doing the clapper,

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Speaker 1: Marks Alow clapping, I should clap with you, my best

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett right now the clapper. I kind of like

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Speaker 1: being in studio. I like being at fud Wreckers, but

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Speaker 1: it feels a little off season ish with with with

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Speaker 1: the excitement of the season mixed in. Yeah, I enjoy well.

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Speaker 1: And also the holiday week this is where football when

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Speaker 1: you work in the business and you know, being a

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Speaker 1: fan too, it kind of gets strange. It's great to

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Speaker 1: have Thanksgiving Day games. You have a triple header, by

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Speaker 1: the way, no Texans All Access Thursday Thanksgiving because because

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Speaker 1: of football, triple header on Sports Radio six ten. Very

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Speaker 1: cool there, but it's just what the holidays are, just

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Speaker 1: this distraction from football deep like, can we do something

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Speaker 1: about this? I always listen it's Bill O'Brien's favorite holiday,

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Speaker 1: which I was actually watching NFL net work this morning

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Speaker 1: and they had their top stories, and I saw something

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Speaker 1: about the Texans coming up. Their Texans headline was the

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Speaker 1: fact that Thanksgiving his Bill Obrian's favorite holiday. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna love that that This is the national narrative

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Speaker 1: of the Texans, probably better than you know, expose, not exposing,

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Speaker 1: but talking about the kind of offense they're running and everything.

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Speaker 1: He just wants it to be about. I was giving food.

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Speaker 1: that because it was it was just him talking about

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Speaker 1: talk about that Monday at the press conference. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: players are off Thursday, so it's good they can all

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Speaker 1: enjoy Thanksgiving with their families. But they get a little

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Speaker 1: extra work this weekend because it's Monday night, Monday Night game.

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Speaker 1: So that's why it's sort of evens itself out, which

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Speaker 1: which I'm not going to complain. Would you say most

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Speaker 1: adults would they would say Thanksgivings maybe their favorite holiday

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Speaker 1: it just depends on your family element. Yeah. Well, of

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Speaker 1: course your family. Do you enjoy the family element? Do

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Speaker 1: you not enjoy the fad? And I know Christmas is

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Speaker 1: to me, Thanksgiving as great because you don't have to

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Speaker 1: get anybody at present. You just have to bring food,

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Speaker 1: I get it, but it's all about food and getting

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Speaker 1: people together, whereas you know, the gift giving holidays are

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Speaker 1: very just cumbersome on people. You know, you get the

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Speaker 1: and they grown ups are like, if I could walk

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Speaker 1: people in the neighborhood do that. They hand out candy

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Speaker 1: the street. It's fun. This is the way to do it.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, Thanksgiving stresses me out because it

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Speaker 1: Is that your position? Fireworks? They are illegal in Here's County.

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Speaker 1: and here's what I found. So you really want soul

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Speaker 1: But you think something else? Is uh? I think something else?

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Speaker 1: your playlist, but I think I think this has been

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Speaker 1: guys listening to this on the way end this morning,

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Speaker 1: it was it slime season one, two or three that

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Speaker 1: You see it on Twitter, like all the offensive guys

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Speaker 1: slime season. Everything was slime season and they had a

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Speaker 1: I asked Will about it actually earlier in one of

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Speaker 1: thanks everybody, last time I tweet about music in stadium?

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Speaker 1: All right? So seven in a row, Yes, the Texans

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Speaker 1: Monday Nights game. Right. So the Giants did it in

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Speaker 1: twenty five, nineteen twenty five. And I love Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: joking about the Polo He was there, the dad took

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Speaker 1: turkey for things. Oh he's not he's listening to Slime

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Speaker 1: definitely we'll get into We'll get into that and we

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Speaker 1: go around the league a little bit later on. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into the top stories for the Texans this week?

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Speaker 1: The Texans lost both starting guards to injury and Sunday's

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Speaker 1: So when Zach Fulton went out at right guard, it

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Speaker 1: years ago when they whooped up on Oklahoma in Yeah,

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Speaker 1: same game. Huge. I mean, that was a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun to be at that one. Sou That was cool

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Speaker 1: seeing seeing him jam that cowboy hat on Tom Herman's

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Speaker 1: head unexpectedly and Yeah, that's a really good game for

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Speaker 1: us to get sure. I like that, and it's one

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Speaker 1: of a couple that you're going to see early in

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Speaker 1: the season here at NRG Stadium, So we're really looking

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Speaker 1: forward to. All Right, you're listening to Texans all Access

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Speaker 1: up you guys. Bill O'Brien. Now four and one after

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Speaker 1: the bye. Do you know what his record against the

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Speaker 1: Titans at home is? Let me think he has not

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Speaker 1: lost to them at home. That's right, four and have

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Speaker 1: a chance to go five and zero on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: I don't even need to look up stats. Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: just go to Mark and he's just like Google for

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Speaker 1: Texans stats sometimes sometimes John and I were talking about

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Speaker 1: this on in the Lab the podcast, and Mark's crazy

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Speaker 1: memory for stuff like, well, no, you're we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the Titans matchup, and we were just kind of pinpointing

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Speaker 1: on like two reasons to be wary of them, and

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Speaker 1: two reasons to kind of have a lot of confidence

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Speaker 1: in the Texans. And the two reasons to be wary

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Speaker 1: of them that I had were also flipped around to

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Speaker 1: be confidence because I was like they were very wacky

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Speaker 1: the first time around, with you know, the fake punt

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Speaker 1: that that's still their longest play of the year. They

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Speaker 1: also had the uh the Wildcat package. They got about touchdown,

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Speaker 1: so when the first quarter ended in that game, they

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Speaker 1: were up fourteen zip and then the Texans made it

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Speaker 1: a close one. Move the ball, the ball, no problem

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Speaker 1: until they got to the red zone and then they

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Speaker 1: would stall. So I think because of that wackiness, you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna I don't think you're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: see that again from the Titans. They've kind of used

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Speaker 1: that those tricks up. I don't think. I think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe there are, but I think the Texans are gonna

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Speaker 1: be a little bit better prepared for it this time.

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Speaker 1: And it's a little bit tougher to pull off on

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Speaker 1: the road on side kick or just something weird where

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Speaker 1: they see some edge on special teams they could get.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys seen a successful onside kick this year

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Speaker 1: with the new rules now? But the one that the

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Speaker 1: Colts pulled off here in twenty four team wasn't one

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Speaker 1: of It was unexpected because it was early in the

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Speaker 1: game and they just saw a gap in the middle

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Speaker 1: where they could just sort of drag the ball ten

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Speaker 1: yards and I think that did the kicker recover that probably,

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Speaker 1: So that was probably I believe it was. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy to do it, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm good in there. Well. Even the one the one

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Speaker 1: similarity between the Week two game and Monday night's game

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Speaker 1: is it we could possibly see Blaine Gabbert because it

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Speaker 1: sounds like Marcus Mariota a stinger, and I don't really

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Speaker 1: know what the status of him moving forward is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I assume they're going to watch him throughout the week

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Speaker 1: of practices. He know what he does, and obviously he

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Speaker 1: missed our game in Week two because of a stinger.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the exact same location. I

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Speaker 1: know stinger is sort of like a general term pinched nerve,

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Speaker 1: but you get arm numbness, and that's not good for

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Speaker 1: him clearly either way. I think that I think this

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Speaker 1: is a shaky Titans team. I know they beat the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: but yes they did. They got the cow but look, look, look,

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Speaker 1: let's look back to the last three game they've played.

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Speaker 1: They get their doors blasted by the Colts this weekend

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago, they go and beat the Cowboys, right, Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys though first quarter in three red zone chances

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Speaker 1: and kind of shot their foot off and then to

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Speaker 1: the Titans credit, they took advantage of that. But look,

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Speaker 1: this is a shaky bunch man like you can really

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Speaker 1: do some damage. Well. But here's the thing though, if

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Speaker 1: I'm doing Titans radio over here, I'm gonna say, well,

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Speaker 1: it's not like the Texans have been blowing people's doors

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Speaker 1: off right here. So if it's a close, nipp and talk,

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Speaker 1: low scoring kind of game, which is kind of what

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Speaker 1: we expect here, I mean, unless the Texans they erupted

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Speaker 1: like they did last year or like the Colts did

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Speaker 1: last week against Tennessee, you know you're looking at that's

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Speaker 1: the kind of game that Titans are gonna want. Like

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Speaker 1: in basketball terms, it would be like play that hard

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Speaker 1: two three zone and you know, deny the inside stuff

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Speaker 1: and keep you know, shorten the game, hold the ball

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Speaker 1: a little bit, you know that kind of thing. And

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Speaker 1: that's what they want to do. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they'll be able to do it. The Texans need another

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Speaker 1: breakout like they had against the Dolphins. And it feels

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Speaker 1: like a long time since they've been home because it

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Speaker 1: is been a month month between games, and the last

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Speaker 1: time they were home even though it was a short week,

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Speaker 1: they looked really good, so maybe they can look really

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Speaker 1: good again. And I looked the Tennessee game against the Colts.

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Speaker 1: You know, you had the DMPs situation you had. Mariota

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Speaker 1: went out in the first half. The dp's actually went

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Speaker 1: out in the first quarter, and I wonder if that

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Speaker 1: affected their defense. Had to Hite was calling plays for them,

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's like a huge step down.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he's done it before, but still it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I saw some cousins this weekend when I was in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: and they asked me, what do you think because they're

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Speaker 1: Ravens fans, but they're asked me about the Redskins game,

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Speaker 1: and I said, you know, anything can happened, but ultimately,

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Speaker 1: I think the Texans have the better quarterback Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: versus Oltman, and I think the way they're playing the

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Speaker 1: stars they have, I think the Texans can win. Anything

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Speaker 1: can happen, obviously, but give me the better quarterback. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: the same thing held Andrew Luck versus Mariota. That was

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Speaker 1: a better quarterback. That's a better team too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think the Colts are the team in the South to

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Speaker 1: worry about this weekend, whether it's Mario or Gabert. I

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Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson better than both those guys. And your

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Speaker 1: home and you're you're rolling, So give me the text.

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Speaker 1: And I like the Houston defense better totally, totally. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to the check mark, you know the

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Speaker 1: Kroger clicklist here. Defense of the Texans better special teams. Look,

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Speaker 1: I haven't looked closely at their analytics, but the Texans

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Speaker 1: have been doing pretty well on special teams. I know

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Speaker 1: they had the operational issues with the field goal kicking

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Speaker 1: in a last game, but they'll get that straight. You

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Speaker 1: know who else I like for the Texans better? Who's ten?

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins? Like, he's already at nine hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: yards receiving for the season. It's amazing. Yeah. So he

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Speaker 1: is currently eighth in the NFL, second in the AFC

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Speaker 1: behind only Tyreek Hill with his receiving yards, and he's

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Speaker 1: tied for fifth in the NFL with eight touchdowns. What's

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Speaker 1: amazing to me is that Bill O'Brien once said they

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Speaker 1: would get the ball to him twenty times thirty times

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Speaker 1: if they could. He was he had six targets in

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Speaker 1: that winn against Washington, and I know they've got Damarius

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Speaker 1: Thomas in there, and Bill O'Brien talked at length about

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Speaker 1: how they want to get and more involved in the offense.

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Speaker 1: What do you expect to see out of eighty seven

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Speaker 1: on Monday night more? We thought that at Washington. But

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Speaker 1: I do think you'll see him more. This time. I

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Speaker 1: was told I was lousy at my job and I'm

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Speaker 1: an idiot because that was one that was one of

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Speaker 1: my five and I should quit my job. That was

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Speaker 1: one of my five things to watch. It was Hey,

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Speaker 1: don't read the comments through you'll probably get Yeah, somebody

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Speaker 1: tweeted that. I mean, thanks man, some some gamer from Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I do think you'll see him more.

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Speaker 1: You'll probably see him get targeted a few few, like

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Speaker 1: four or five times. I believe. To look at goals

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Speaker 1: in Tate in Philly, this doesn't actually I was actually

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Speaker 1: going to bring up that exact same example because they

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Speaker 1: were traded on the same day. Yeah, yeah, right before

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Speaker 1: the deadline, and you're looking at guys who are assimilating

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Speaker 1: into a new system and it doesn't happen overnight. People

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Speaker 1: talk about all the bye week the bye week. That's

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Speaker 1: good for Thomas to study the playbook. But it's not

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Speaker 1: like they get extra practice during the buye. I mean

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Speaker 1: they go away. It's not out of practice all week.

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Speaker 1: It's training camp revisited. No, it's not. They're gonna get

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Speaker 1: rest and heal up. Then one extra day of practice

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Speaker 1: because of that Monday return following to buy Well, now

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Speaker 1: you have Monday night football. Well, they had a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a day yesterday. You mentioned Thursday off a

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Speaker 1: little bit longer. We I just think it's going to

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Speaker 1: take a week or two or three just to get him.

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Speaker 1: I can't even say fully assimilated, but more assimilated into

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Speaker 1: the offense. And I'd be shocked if you don't see

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Speaker 1: a whole lot more of him as these I think

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Speaker 1: Corey right, the chemistry with Deshaun. I feel like Deshaun's

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Speaker 1: got his guys that he's developed his chemistry and his

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Speaker 1: timing with. And it's it's going to take a few

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Speaker 1: more weeks. But to your point about Golden Tate, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles OC actually said it has been a challenge in

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Speaker 1: a great him And I know we haven't heard that

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Speaker 1: out of this building, but I would imagine it's something

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Speaker 1: along those lines, and as each week progresses, we'll see

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Speaker 1: more and more targets to him. It's also the first

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Speaker 1: home game for Damarius Thomas. I think that's I think

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Speaker 1: that's significant because just the crowd noise more than anything,

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Speaker 1: you can operate. You can understand what the guy's saying,

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Speaker 1: and I think on the road sometimes we forget about that.

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Speaker 1: It was loud and Denver as loud last week at times,

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Speaker 1: so it's a little bit tougher sometimes to grasp and absorb.

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Speaker 1: I think when you're in the huddle, when you're out

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Speaker 1: split out wide in this saw offense too, you're changing

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Speaker 1: stuff at the line. How many times did Watson have

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Speaker 1: to walk up to everybody and say no, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. You know we're gonna run X

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Speaker 1: and Thomas might be saying, yeah, is that page forty

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Speaker 1: seven or I mean, not gonna need that as much here.

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Speaker 1: Now you'll be able to talk, communicate. That's a great

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Speaker 1: point you make, and you know, another week of getting

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Speaker 1: involved with each other, I think the chemistry will develop.

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Speaker 1: And maybe you don't expect thirteen targets like QT when

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Speaker 1: he debuted, but I do think you'll see him get

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Speaker 1: about four or five six targets. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: They're not throwing the ball anyway. They're throwing the whole

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Speaker 1: twenty five times a lot less Mahomes did twenty five

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Speaker 1: times in a quarter last night. They're trying to like

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Speaker 1: they're trying to shorten the game. They're trying to run

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Speaker 1: the ball, make effective pass plays. Certainly want to score

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Speaker 1: through the air if they possibly can, but they still

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Speaker 1: are working with things up front and trying to limit

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Speaker 1: the exposure on to Sean, who you know, took a

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Speaker 1: horrible beating several games ago and they want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that he's available for all these games. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: let me use all Lamar Miller with one hundred yards

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Speaker 1: from scrimmage in Sunday's game. They're definitely dedicated to the run,

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Speaker 1: and they're committed to the run in these next few games.

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Speaker 1: It's worth for them so far. So you're right, there's

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Speaker 1: less opportunities to catch passes. So maybe we see a

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Speaker 1: little bit more, but now you're not going to see

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Speaker 1: thirty thirty receptions from DeAndre Hopkins. You will see touchdowns

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Speaker 1: though you could if anybody could do it, could be Hire. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we were talking about the guys

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Speaker 1: that we may see come back for the Monday night game. Drill,

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Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on this, Zach Cunningham, Aaron Colvin,

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Speaker 1: and then possibly dealing Cold sometime in the future. Yeah,

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00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: which of those guys think of that trio? I would

638
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: probably not that I'm a doctor or a massu, so

639
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: I would probably go with Colvin. You'd probably be the

640
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: most likely of that trio, at least for this week. So, uh,

641
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: we'll see on the other guys. Just because Cole still

642
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: has that cast on his hand, you know. Yeah, Cole's

643
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: not ready yet. He's ready to come off. I R

644
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: and practice and do all that. But I think Cunningham Colvin,

645
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: like you said, I don't know about cunning Ham for

646
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: Monday Night, but we'll see. And the injury report comes

647
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: out tomorrow. They won't practice Thursday, but you'll get an

648
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: injury report late Saturday because that's game week Friday, because

649
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Monday is a Sunday. Yeah, there you go. All right,

650
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: So Monday Night against the Titans, possibly eight in a row,

651
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: eight as great as Drew and I talking look the

652
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 1: drive for Ojo. Do you have a call Mark, you're

653
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: a rock. I think I'm gonna get one. I'm gonna

654
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: involve everyone. Show Ocho was gonna make the call so

655
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: that Justin reed Pick did not get a rock and

656
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: roll did it. Well, I'll tell you why. It's played

657
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: by play stuff, but that that is the worst booth

658
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: in the history of pro DP was laughing at you

659
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: in the press box because she could see you. I

660
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: could see you kind of cacorn, because we were we

661
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: were facing we were like in the end zone, like

662
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: the corn of the end zone, and I could see

663
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: the radio booth, which it's a weird angle because it's curved,

664
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: and I could just see you standing like at the

665
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: glass with your binoculars and you're complaining about But to

666
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: be fair, I was I'm playing to Deepe about the view.

667
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: He was had a bar in between my sight line. Yes,

668
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: but you just you couldn't tell. I mean, the way

669
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: plays were developing, you couldn't really see you know, you're

670
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: low and you're no. It's awful. Everything happened on the

671
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: opposite side of the field that felt like other than

672
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: the Justin Reids. I got the call, I got the

673
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: call book, and he was running here's The other thing

674
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: about play by play calls, when they run in a

675
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: straight line like that shot out of a cannon, it

676
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: is very You know, he's at the fifty. By the

677
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: time I started saying yard lines, I'm like, and it's intercepted.

678
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: It brought out of the end zone by Justin Reid.

679
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: By the time I say all that he was at

680
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: the forties, he's at the fifty. I think forty was

681
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: the first yard line, I said, So I backed it up. Yeah,

682
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: So by the time I got to the end zone,

683
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: I was like, touchdown. Yeah, I mean, I didn't soft

684
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: sell it, believe me. I was no, No, it was

685
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: a good call. But you said coast to coast, which

686
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: I wish, which I wish I had tweeted at the time,

687
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: coast to coast. I like that next time. Next time

688
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: Justin Reid returns a touchdown for one hundred one yards

689
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: looked like one hundred three from my basic point, That's

690
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: which is what I tweeted. It was so far well,

691
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, and then correct not to to my own horn.

692
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: But Johnny asked me on the area, said, is that

693
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: the longest in history? I said, Coleman, Oh, you knew it.

694
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: I knew it right away. Yeah, yeah, because that was

695
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: unforgettable to me. That was Week three, two thousand and four.

696
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I had to get the win and Trent Green and

697
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: it was great. All right, good stuff. We got one

698
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: final segment. We're gonna go around the league, the latest

699
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: on Alex Smith and that Monday night matchup. I want

700
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: to get Mark's thoughts on he loves TV ratings, yap

701
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: TV ratings. Let's do it, and that's all coming up.

702
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: One final segment, Texans All Access Don't Go Anywhere, Welcome Back.

703
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: One final segment of Texans All Access, Mark Drew DP.

704
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm here, We're here out no crowd because we're not

705
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: a food ruckers. Yeah, that's our fake crowd clapping. We

706
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: should have like a fake studio audience, like like a

707
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: laugh track like Seinfeld. Yeah, we can edit, we can

708
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: edit in a laugh Speaking of a fake laugh tracks,

709
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: Ka Jack TV was on NFL Network a few weeks ago.

710
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: Did we use a laugh track? No, they used a

711
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: laugh track. They did not. They put a laugh track

712
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: in there, and I thought, well, you don't need the

713
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: laugh track. People are already laughing. But I did like it. No,

714
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: they didn't, I did. I kind of liked it because

715
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: it binds me with those eighties sickuns. The four people say, also,

716
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: I felt was a live audience. Yeah, I know, but

717
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: they put a laugh track in. Same with friends, they

718
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: put a laugh track in and those people are prompted

719
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 1: to laugh too. Yeah, it's like laugh they get them

720
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: all warmed up. Yeah. Yeah, they're comed and everything, because

721
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: it's just like when you see a live comedian, there's

722
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: so it's so much funny. Let you go to the improv.

723
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: Everybody's pretty funny, you know, and you're thinking, and then

724
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: when you see them on TV they might be funny,

725
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: but not as there's a there's a barrier up, a

726
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: little bit of a barrier, right, yeah, right, if you're

727
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: with other people who are laughing and kind of like, oh,

728
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: that's why Johnny Carson man to laugh at all of

729
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: his jokes, you know, or most of them. You know,

730
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: who's the least funny? When someone says, here, watch this,

731
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: this is hilarious on a computer screen, it's never won

732
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: and never wants it never lives up to. Yeah, like

733
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: and they want you to watch. Yeah, you're like a

734
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: fake laugh. Yeah people do that nowadays. I say, hold on,

735
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: I'll go watch this by myself. I'm sorry for the

736
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: times I've done that to you. No, it's not you,

737
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't Mark's like, hey, you gotta see this right now.

738
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: All right, final segment. Let's talk about what do you

739
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: want to talk about the Monday night ratings? What a

740
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: game I think is? Uh No, I don't want to

741
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: talk about Alex. He had surgery, so he's well to recovery.

742
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: I saw Larry Michael, the voice of the Redskins, right

743
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: after the game. He said, he's already in surgery right now,

744
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: like the beginning the game was still going on. It

745
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: was that dire. Yeah, that's now. I don't know how

746
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: accurate that information is, but that's what he told me.

747
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: Are you sure he wasn't exaggerating like he's gonna have

748
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: it soon? Well, I think he had it on Sunday.

749
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: I want they had to do something to him on

750
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: Sunday because I believe it was a compound fracture, So

751
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: you gotta do something. You're definitely doing something surgical of

752
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: just a compound. Did you know that CBS only showed

753
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: that replay once? Yeah, I mean I understand why they

754
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: did it, but I mean it's on social media on

755
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: the level this is a completely other area, but on

756
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: the level of gruesomeness. I think Theismans was quote worse,

757
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean Alex Smiths was like, Oh, this

758
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt at all. It was awful. It was gruesome.

759
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: Willis mcgahey, you know, I think back to the worst

760
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: first one I've ever seen. I saw one of Central

761
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: Michigan that live. You couldn't really you know, we were

762
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: just doing the game, and back then, it wasn't like

763
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: every college game is now. It wasn't on television, but

764
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: we were shooting the game separately, and a guy showed

765
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: it to me on a monitor later that week, and

766
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: I was like, that is the worst thing I've ever seen.

767
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: It was. I saw a knee bending the way it

768
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: really shouldn't. So it was horrible. Who was the kid

769
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: out of out of Butler the one that had that?

770
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: That was pretty bad? So his his cousin went to

771
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: high school with Paul George was no picnic either. I mean,

772
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, basketball, you wouldn't they just they showed that.

773
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: I mean it was so bad. I was just like,

774
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: please stop showing it. So I'm glad that he's reading

775
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: all right, Monday and Night game between the Chiefs and

776
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: the let's let's talk about these gross replays that we

777
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: don't want to see. Chiefs and the Rams lived up

778
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: to the hype. I really thought this game was going

779
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: to be like low scoring just completely was any funny

780
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: if it was like six? Yeah, they are over and

781
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: up to it and did so. We were. We were

782
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: at a friend's house for friends giving. Anything. Drew was

783
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: the same. Every time I turned around, it was like

784
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: fourteen more points to pass. So the Chiefs and the

785
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: Rams combined for one hundred and five points one thousand

786
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: and one yards. Highest scoring game in Monday night football history.

787
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: Uh and the first time in an NFL game that

788
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: both teams scored fifty points. All right, so I think

789
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: it's Monday Night football history for ESPN. This isn't including

790
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: all the ABC game. Yeah, it can't because ABC was

791
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: a completely different animal. They were, I mean they were

792
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: are you are you saying for the ratings for the scoring?

793
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: I think scoring and I think for the ratings. There

794
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: was a two thousand and fourteen game and I was

795
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: trying to figure out which it was that still has

796
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: a higher rate. It was Cowboys Redskins and cult McCoy

797
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: was quarterbacking the Redskins that had a higher rating than

798
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: this one. But as far as scoring, this is all

799
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: top football. Now. No team has ever scored fifty points

800
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: and lost, and that's what the teams did last night. Yeah,

801
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: so you had two teams scoring over fifty for the

802
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: first time ever in an NFL game. And clearly it

803
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: was beautiful to watch. It really was tremendous. There was

804
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: one point in the third quarter is fairly late, and

805
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: it's thirty to thirty, and you had the scoreboard, they're

806
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: thirty to thirty and both teams are nine and one,

807
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: and you see the records there and I'm thinking, this

808
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: is beautiful. This is actually really what they want. This

809
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: is so good for the NFL. It's just great for

810
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: everybody watching. This is great entertainment. And you know, I

811
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: don't want to be get off my lawn guy, and

812
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: you really can't be get off my long guy. You

813
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: know why because in nineteen eighty three, the Packers play

814
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: this the previous high scoring game in Monday Night football history.

815
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: That same year, I remember Dan Founds and Ken Anderson.

816
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: Ken Anderson was quarterback in the Bengals fifty to thirty

817
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: four a game the Chargers put up fifty. So we've

818
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: had that kind of thing from time to time. I

819
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: think a lot of the get off my lawn people

820
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: are saying the NFL is changing, this is good. I

821
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: don't want the NFL to become the Big twelve, all right.

822
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: I really don't want games in the forties and fifties

823
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: each week. I don't think that's good for the n

824
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: kind of outliers. I don't know that the game is

825
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: totally changing, yeah, because I don't how many teams are,

826
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: how many other teams are actually doing this and scoring

827
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: well because other teams, these are unique teams. Because the

828
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: ramsd defense is better than the Chiefs defense. They get

829
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: great pressure, and the Chiefs have some good players. Don't

830
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but you know, you put some good

831
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: defense on the field, they're not gonna put up fifty,

832
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: you know, buy and large, Like if the Texans took

833
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: on one of these teams, look, it'd be hard to

834
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: stop them. I grant you that, But you're gonna do

835
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: a better job defensively than these squads did last night.

836
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: And that's just my they interceptions. I mean, if three

837
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: times I know the defense made its share turnovers. Yeah,

838
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's didn't both defenses score in the fourth quarter.

839
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an amazing game. The rating actually

840
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: peaked on the final drive, which I thought was really

841
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: interesting because it's like it's almost like people started texting

842
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: and because I was getting texts about the game too.

843
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: We had it on. But I think people started to realize, hey,

844
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: this game is kind of nuts right now. It's phenomenal.

845
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: It was a phenomenally people tune out by the by

846
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, like, oh okay, I loved it. I

847
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: think it was great. And I was thinking, you know what,

848
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: our players are watching this, and the Texans play next.

849
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: They take that Monday night stage next, and isn't isn't

850
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: that going to be troum ends? And you have seven

851
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: and three against five and five. Okay, it could be

852
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: a lot better for the Titans. One hundred and five

853
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: points here we come. I am not looking past the Titans.

854
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: And I know what you said Drew earlier, but this

855
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: team has been left for dead twice already this year,

856
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: after Week one and then now and the third time,

857
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: is it charmed? It's time to kill them? So well,

858
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: I agree, let's let's make sure that they're they're not

859
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: going to come out of the bathtub one more time

860
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: with the knife. How about the fact that the AFC

861
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: South has now essentially turned on its head. It's completely

862
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: upside down. So true, like Jacksonville is at the bottom,

863
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: the Titans third than the Colts. After Week two, Jags

864
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: are two and oh they just beat the Patriots. They're

865
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl, right The Texans are going nowhere.

866
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: They're gonna be the number four pick of the draft list.

867
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: When we were playing the Jaguars, I remember J. P. Shadwick,

868
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: a good friend with the Jaggards radio network. I remember thinking,

869
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. They're so lucky right now they're getting

870
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: to talk about winning and winning and winning. And he

871
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: actually texted me after Sunday's game, like, what is happening?

872
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: I think I might actually come to Houston and watch

873
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: that Texts Colts game because the Jags are playing Thursday night.

874
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: I think they're playing the Titans that Thursday and game.

875
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: So he's got the weekend off. What you doing on

876
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: this week enough? He wants to come here influenced watch

877
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: another AFC South, which I think is just torture. I

878
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: would never do. Don't do it, don't do it, but

879
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: he actually wants to do that. So I think it's

880
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting how it's completely inverted from me from

881
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, how things changed so quickly. The

882
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: Titans are five and five. Yeah, look they're not out

883
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: of it. Well, the cults are not out of it.

884
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Cults are that's really to worry about that, Ja Kobe,

885
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: we're set in in the fourth quarter of that game,

886
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: was playing. How big is the win over that? And

887
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this yesterday in the morning. But

888
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: if the Colt if the Texans had not beaten the

889
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: Colts that week yet had won the next six let's say,

890
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: all right, so now you're six and four, but the

891
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: Colts beat you and they're a game behind you. No,

892
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: they're tied with you right now. They're tied with you

893
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: right now based on the way and now you've got

894
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: a healthy old line for Andrew Luck. Yeah, and they

895
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: would have a game in hand. So that means if

896
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: you went out until that point, look, it's still gonna

897
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: be big. You can't afford to slip up in these

898
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: next two if they keep going, because what you have

899
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: here is they're gonna come in here and want to

900
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: beat you, and then they have the tie breakers. I

901
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: don't want to all that, Like, let's go ahead and

902
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: take care of business. Do you know what I really

903
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: don't want what I really don't want to see the

904
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: Colts make it in or sneak in as a wild

905
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: card and the Texans have to play. Now, that's not

906
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: good either. I don't like that. I don't want that

907
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: here and I don't want that there. I think those

908
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: these divisional games are so tough. Can you imagine playing

909
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: a division Oh gosh, A lot of things can happen, clearly.

910
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: You know, you have Adams Shine from CBS Television Sports

911
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: TV Network whatever that thing is, and he does a

912
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: lot of serious XM radio and NFL Radio network stuff.

913
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: In the past. He said he thinks the AFC South

914
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: gets two playoff teams. That, oh my gosh. He thinks

915
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: the Texans and the Cults. The way the Cults are playing,

916
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a perfectly legitimate West culture playing and

917
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: the Texans if they keep the cushion up. Yeah, well,

918
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: two divisions get two teams, right, So, uh, you're looking

919
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: at the AFC West getting the Chiefs in and the

920
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: Chargers would take the other bid and then uh is

921
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: it good company? Yeah? Now Baltimore has got a pretty

922
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: favorable situation right now. I'm not sure. I mean it's

923
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: it's too early to tell six games left, but it's viable.

924
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: Like Drew said that, the Colts get in and you

925
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: know that's this is the last thing. If Bill O'Brien

926
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: heard this right now, like like he doesn't want to

927
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: hear the P word. Remember Christian Covington last night, I

928
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: don't want to say the P word. Play talk about it. Yeah,

929
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: we can talk about it, but you know, if you

930
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: don't protect yourself here, the division becomes vulnerable. A two

931
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: game lead really doesn't mean much with six to go.

932
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's great, but you gotta keep winning. I

933
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: don't think what we're doing is raw rowing the text

934
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: and we're talking about how tough this division is and

935
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: how tough it's going to be to win this final

936
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: stretch year. Just because you beat the Colts the first

937
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: time around means absolutely nothing. Now, look how different all

938
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: these things. Cleveland is no buy. I mean, they're all

939
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: juiced up right now, ready to roll. I mean they

940
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: know they're out of it, basically, but you know they're

941
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: they're playing to win, and the Eagles that that that's

942
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: a two step there with teams that are not playing well,

943
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: you should probably win, but so dead at that point

944
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: that they resurrect themselves like that, that that late seasonnce

945
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: where they feel like, you know, I got down the lows.

946
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Let's go out and sling it today. I don't know,

947
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: Darnold back by then, I don't know what happened. Do

948
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: you remember when Bill was asked about a trap game?

949
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: This was a few years ago about a certain game

950
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: being a trap game, and sure, one hundred dollars if

951
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: you ask Bill about Sure, all right, that's gonna do

952
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: it for us. No traps, by the way, He's gotta

953
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: ask the question too. All right, you guys, thanks so much.

954
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: This was fun as always. Next next week we'll be

955
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: back at Food Wreckers as always, thanks so much for listening.

956
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: For Mark, for Drew, I'm dep go Texans. Welcome to

957
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: the second hour of Texans All Access from Monday Texans

958
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: Radio Studio. I am not Deep City, I am John

959
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: Harris and I have taken over, but I have procured

960
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: the services of the voice of Texans, Mark Van Meer. Mark.

961
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: How you doing, Johnny? I'm doing very well. How are

962
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: you I'm doing okay this? If you're wondering way a second,

963
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: this whole Tuesday think yeah, well it moved around because

964
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: we had DJ Reader yesterday at food Wreckers. We had

965
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: the Bill Bryant Show while we're at fund Ruckers, so

966
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: we traded an hour basically, and we're getting it back tonight.

967
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: So typically we have three hours on Tuesday. We have

968
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: Sweet Is that right? No? Yeah, six to seven, seventy eight,

969
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: eight to nine, So you have Texans Replay with me

970
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: coming up. Texans Replay was a fun show. Looking back

971
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: at the twenty seventeen win over to Indianapolis Colts. Mark

972
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: no show on Thursday because there will be Thanksgiving football

973
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: all day long. Yeah, and typically on Thursday, you and

974
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: I do a segment called more Likely to Happen? Are

975
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: you ready to make this happen? I'm ready to have alright,

976
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm more likely to happen. Let's go, all right, let's

977
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: go more likely to happen. DeShawn Watson thirty touchdown passes.

978
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: Pause here for a moment, because let me just tell

979
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: you he's got twenty Johnny, and how many games are

980
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: there left? And you know what, I'm worried about. Right here,

981
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: I know what you're worried about. I think he's gonna

982
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: make it, but it's gonna be tight. He's gotta make thirty.

983
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: Twenty nine is the all time Texans record for touchdown

984
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: passes in a season, combine or individual, just total. I

985
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: need him to get to thirty. Okay, So more likely

986
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: to happen Watson gets to thirty tds or the Colts

987
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, more likely to happen, Johnny, Wow, you're

988
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: talking thirty passing touchdowns? Yeah? What did I say? Okay,

989
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: because last year he got the thirty one total TOUCHDOW.

990
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't matter. I mean it's great, but no,

991
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: he's got to get thirty passing touch touchdown. Yeah, essentially

992
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: averaging to a game to a game for the rest

993
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: of the way. They had two against the Colts and

994
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: two red zone trips that they did not score. But

995
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: here's the problem. Here's the other problem. If not scoring

996
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: is definitely a problem, but here's one other problem for

997
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: the thirty touchdown passing mark, because sometimes when they're in

998
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: the red zone, he does run it in and it's

999
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: a viable way to do business, and they like doing that.

1000
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: It's a good way to score, but it takes away

1001
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: from a passing touchdown from my total here, and it's

1002
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: all about me, Johnny. Then again, that total of twenty

1003
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: includes the one yard little dirt throw to Darren Fells

1004
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: off the RPO. Yeah, thats have that, or a flip

1005
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: see doodle too, you know forward Kenny Stills, or like

1006
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: last year against Dallas, that little flip that was a

1007
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. Yeah, that goes down. I still think he

1008
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: gets the thirty. Now he's gonna face the Broncos good defense,

1009
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: not great good. He's gonna face the Buccaneers defense, which

1010
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: is awful, and then he's gonna face the Titans defense

1011
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: twice good defense, but at home he's scorched them a

1012
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: few times. And then the Patriots. Right. I hate to

1013
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: say it, but I think I'm gonna go with the

1014
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: Colts because I'm with you. I think when they get

1015
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: in tight I think they will focus on potentially him

1016
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: running the football. Or if you remember last year against

1017
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: the Titans last year or two years ago, two years ago,

1018
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: they just ran speed option like they did against Indianapolis,

1019
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: flipped it out to Lamar Miller, and Lamar Miller scored

1020
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: this year they ran against Indiapolis, so I think there'll

1021
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: be more of those sort of touchdowns. I can't believe.

1022
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: I want to say this. I do think the Colts

1023
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: I will I will couch you with this. I do

1024
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: think thet the Colts losing Eric Ebron is big. Yeah,

1025
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: I think it's big. I think they become even more

1026
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: ground in pound without Ibron, right, so I think it's

1027
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. I do think the Colts will narrowly

1028
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: defeat the Titans, right, But I think they lose the

1029
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: Saints and then the Panthers is up up in the air.

1030
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: But see your Matt, the Raiders did beat the Colts. Yes,

1031
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: was what the Raiders did against the Jets? And aberration

1032
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: I don't think then? That was my question after the

1033
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: multipore game. Is aberration or trend? Yeah? And look that

1034
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: might have been the Raiders stinker And now they're ready

1035
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: to get it going again. But they have the Chiefs,

1036
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: So how's that going to be? They're on the road,

1037
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: Arrowhead Stadium, tough place to play. Well, see how they

1038
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: handle it. Are the Raiders gonna fade away? What about

1039
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers? They have the Browns this week and I

1040
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: know what you think about the Browns that they're going

1041
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: on their magical run late in the season here to

1042
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: put pressure on all the other wild cards. I told you,

1043
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: I told you the Browns are gonna go on a run.

1044
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: But I think just given the schedule, jewel of the

1045
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: Colts with Titans, then with Saints Panthers, they finished with

1046
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: the Jags and I'm missing one, I'm missing a game

1047
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: in there. But the point being Bucks do they play

1048
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: the Bucks? So, I mean, I think it's a good

1049
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: possibility that the Colts end up being the number six team.

1050
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: Now here's here's what I would Here's what I would

1051
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: like to have happen. If the Cults are going to

1052
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: get in, Yeah, is that Buffalo starts to fade and

1053
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: then the Colts can rise above that. Yeah. I don't

1054
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: want to see the Colts here in the playoffs. I

1055
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: do not want to see the Colts. I mean, I

1056
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: want to make the playoffs, but I'd rather not see

1057
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: the Colts again. You deal with them twice, don't want

1058
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: to deal with them again. That was not good last year.

1059
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of anybody, but I don't want to

1060
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: see the Colts. I'd rather not. But I think this team,

1061
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: constructed as it is, could take on anybody anytime, anywhere.

1062
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: And you know, now Baltimore's Baltimore's an all different animal.

1063
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: But I will say that the offs it is the

1064
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: Shawn will increase his total touchdowns from last year total

1065
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: thirty one. He'll go above that. But I don't know

1066
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: that he gets the thirty. He gets the twenty eight

1067
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: or twenty nine. All right, maybe he gets close and

1068
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: maybe billbronill find a way to get him another one.

1069
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: You're ready for the next one? More likely to happen?

1070
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: Patriots one seed or Ravens one seed. More likely to

1071
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: happen top seed in the AFC. Is it the Ravens

1072
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: or the Patriots? Just this weekend, for example, the Ravens

1073
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: will entertain the San Francisco forty nine ers, who are

1074
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: pretty good. Will the Patriots are visiting the Houston Texans.

1075
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: But then we move on from there. The Patriots have

1076
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: a couple of quote layoups. I hate to do that

1077
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: in this league, but the Bengals and the Dolphins on

1078
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: their schedule, they will take out the Buffalo Bills one

1079
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: more time, and the Chiefs and the Chiefs at home

1080
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: next week, right, so that's gonna be a toughie look

1081
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: or and if the Ravens went out, Obviously, the Patriots

1082
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: losing once knocks them into the two seed at best,

1083
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: so we'll see how that goes. The one seed is

1084
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: going to be New England because I think Baltimore will

1085
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: get tripped up one time and that's all it's gonna take.

1086
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: Because the Patriots gotta lose twice. I'm not sure that

1087
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: I see the Patriots losing twice. They might lose once

1088
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: and let's hope it's Sunday. Yeah, that would be the one.

1089
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: And then after that they've got the Chiefs. I don't

1090
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: I just the Chiefs. I don't see it. I don't

1091
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: see it. I mean, I know offensively they can score,

1092
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: but defensively can't stop anybody. So maybe that's the game

1093
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: that gets the Patriots offense going. I sure hope it's

1094
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: not this Sunday that gets the offense going. But I

1095
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: just think it's gonna go through Gillette. And maybe that's

1096
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: just my fear is that it'll go it'll go through Jillette.

1097
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: But I say the number one seed more likely to

1098
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: happen that the Patriots hang on to that number one seed.

1099
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: All right, I'm saying that you're ready for another one's

1100
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: more likely to happen. Well, this is a more likely

1101
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: to be a better story. Let's just take it as

1102
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: to where we are right now. The better story the

1103
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens or And I'm talking so East Coast bias

1104
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: here because they feel very neglected, the San Francisco forty

1105
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: nine ers who just beat up on the Green Bay Packers,

1106
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: and they feel like they have a very good story

1107
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: with Garoppolo coming back from the knee getting virtually no

1108
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: credit for that. I know he's not playing unbelievably well,

1109
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: but the Niners are really good on defense, and here

1110
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: they are putting on a show. So a better story

1111
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: the Ravens or the forty nine ers. Well, before I

1112
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: get there, somebody posted this on Sunday night. It was

1113
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: a picture of somebody from NFL Network standing in front

1114
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: of those oh like the board that I used to

1115
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: do tell Straighter on the big where you can touch

1116
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: the big touchscreen. And I don't know who it was.

1117
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: I think it may have been Adam Rank were of

1118
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: the NFL writers, and he was standing in front and

1119
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: he was predicting the forty nine ers schedule, and he

1120
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: got to the end and it said three and thirteen

1121
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: for the schedule. Yes, then it showed out last year,

1122
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: and then it showed another one. And I'm trying to

1123
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: remember who the other one was, and it said three

1124
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: and thirteen and it may have been the Ravens. I

1125
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: can't remember. Body said three and thirteen and it was

1126
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: It was way off. Again. I still think the better

1127
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: story is the Baltimore Ravens. And we have a quarterback

1128
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: like Lamar And look, I know Jimmy Grappolin didn't get

1129
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: his didn't really get started on his career until twenty

1130
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: seventeen when he got traded to forty nine Ers. The

1131
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are a darn good story. There's no

1132
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: question where they and where the forty nine ers came from.

1133
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: This Baltimore team has ascended to a level. It's taken

1134
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: it to a level that I don't think anybody even

1135
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: came close to expecting. Now. I know San Francisco is

1136
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 1: there as well, but I just think Lamar Jackson has

1137
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: stolen the hearts of everybody that doesn't have to play him.

1138
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: Everybody watches this guy and you know his story, like, oh,

1139
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: everybody passed on him till he got the number thirty

1140
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: two in a draft, and now look at him. He's

1141
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: changing the game. And I know people comparing to Michael

1142
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: Vick and I'm like, no, no no, no, no, Lamar Jackson's

1143
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: his own dude, and because of the way he can

1144
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: throw the football, he changes everything. I think Vic was

1145
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: in the building today, but he was, yeah, visiting de Sean, Yeah,

1146
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: doing some NFL type stuff. Very cool. Well, the video

1147
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: that they did together, I don't know if you saw that.

1148
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was about, but essentially it

1149
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: was the Texans with their childhood heroes. So Brett Barb

1150
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: was with JJ Watt, Steve Smith was with Hop. I

1151
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: saw the one with Vic and DeShawn, Yeah, it was

1152
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: It was awesome. It was awesome because Deshaun has these

1153
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: memories of Vick as a kid, and so he's watching

1154
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: him and he's talking to Vic about what Vick is seeing,

1155
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: and Vick is saying, yeah, this is what I saw,

1156
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 1: and this is what I decided. Here's always gonna it's

1157
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. So I love I love seeing those

1158
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: two being able to share because then that was a

1159
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: guy that Deshaun looked up to when he was younger.

1160
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: It's very very cool. Yeah, very cool. Now I want

1161
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: to ask you this though, about Lamar Jackson. I think

1162
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: it's amazing what he's doing. There's no doubt what they

1163
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: did to the Rams. Look, it's one thing against the Patriots, Yeah,

1164
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: all right, that's amazingly impressive. Against the Texas one an

1165
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: impressive forty one to seven victory over Houston. And you know,

1166
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: the Texans were ready for that one. They knew that

1167
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: they were going to go up there in a tough

1168
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: fight and ended up being forty one to seven. But

1169
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: the Rams are watching both of those games thinking, all right,

1170
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: we got this, we get take care of this at home.

1171
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: We got this at home, and they don't have this

1172
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: at home in the worst way. This is really impressive stuff,

1173
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: what they're putting together. I just I go back to

1174
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: last year. It was really impressive what the Chiefs were

1175
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: doing last year. I'm not saying that it goes away,

1176
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: but things have a way of leveling off at least

1177
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: a bit, and I think there will at some point.

1178
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's this year, next year, or whatever,

1179
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: but I think it will at some point. So we'll

1180
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: see who's able to level it off for them or

1181
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: help them along that way. Here's what we haven't talked

1182
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: about either group, the Ravens or the Chiefs, especially offensively

1183
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: before you get into Lamar, we haven't talked about the

1184
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: offensive lines. The offensive lines in Kansas City and Baltimore

1185
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: are exceptional. In Baltimore, you got Martial Yonda, one of

1186
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: the best guards that's ever played. Yeah, Ronnie Stanley, who

1187
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: is one of the better left tackles in the league.

1188
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: You have got now Matt Scurrow was maybe the best

1189
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: center in the league, but he got hurt on Monday night,

1190
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: so that's one to keep an eye. He's out for

1191
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: the year. He tores ACL so they're not gonna have

1192
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: to play a backup center. But Bradley Boseman and Zeus Brown.

1193
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Zeus Brown's a house. I mean, even if

1194
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: he don't blocking, you gotta run around him. It takes

1195
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: you two years. The offensive lines, to me, have made

1196
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: all the difference because Lamar doesn't have pressure. Now part

1197
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: of that is because it's Lamar, but he doesn't have pressure.

1198
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: There's no pressure coming after him because teams are so

1199
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: scared to go after That's what it is. They're scared,

1200
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: I see scared of him. They're so concerned about the run,

1201
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, Johnny. They are average averaging, they're first

1202
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: in the league and rushing, they're averaging sixty five yards

1203
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: per game, rushing more than second place. That's I mean,

1204
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: it's an insane I've never seen anything like that. And

1205
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: here's what they did. I know people would say, wait

1206
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: a second, well, why don't you go back to what

1207
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: the Chargers did when they had Julil Die playing linebacker.

1208
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: They had seven dbs on the field. Okay, you're gonna

1209
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: put four down lineman and two two dbs at linebacker

1210
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: against them running mark ingram the whole game. Yeah, that's

1211
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: what they didn't have last year. They didn't have that.

1212
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: And so now Lamarca just turned in hand at the

1213
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: mark ingram and he pounds Ingram, just pounds. And then

1214
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: they bring in Gus Edwards and he does the same thing.

1215
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: And then Justice Hills got speed out of back. So

1216
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: they've got three guys that they can just bring in

1217
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: and like you've had enough of You've had enough of

1218
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: us yet Nope, Okay, here comes more. And that to me,

1219
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line being just a bully group. I mean,

1220
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: they just pound you, all right, But you said in

1221
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: this segment Patriots number one seed. I still think that, yeah,

1222
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: But I think Lark, that's just the mechanics of the

1223
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: Patriots schedule, right, of course. But do the Patriots beat

1224
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: the Ravens and the return engagement up in Foxborough? I

1225
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: think the Ravens will go up there. But if there's

1226
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: a team that consistently, if they're has gone up the

1227
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo or gone up to New England and had success

1228
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: up there, it's the Ravens. They beat him in a

1229
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine wild card. They that was the

1230
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,959
Speaker 1: first year that Obi was called plays in New England

1231
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,479
Speaker 1: champions They just in twenty eleven, just missed a Billy

1232
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: kund to fuel goal that would have put it in overtime.

1233
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: In twenty eleven, they win. In twenty twelve, they've got

1234
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: a two touchdown lead in twenty fourteen. John Harball knows

1235
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: how to go up there and win. And I give

1236
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: credit to Hardball. I had his conversation at lunch to day.

1237
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: I give Hardball all the credit in the world because

1238
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: it would have been very easy for Hardball to just

1239
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: you know, hey, we've had a really good season with Lamar.

1240
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: Let's keep Marty morning wig and let's just see what

1241
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: we do. Let's just let's just continue on this way.

1242
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: And no, he goes and says, I'm going with Greg Roman.

1243
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: Greg Roman's gonna better for Lamar going forward. This is

1244
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. Greg. Build this thing from

1245
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: scratch and build it around eight. And he has and

1246
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: they're they're not right now does it slow down? Made?

1247
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: There's this injury to Matt skirt affect them or impact them?

1248
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll tell you this. And it was crazy as

1249
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: it sounds, losing forty one to seven. I'd like another

1250
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: shot at him. Oh, I would like another shot at him.

1251
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: To prepare with no game in five days at the

1252
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: end of it, to go in there and say, all right,

1253
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: let's see we got Let's see if we learned our

1254
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: lesson from the first one and go battle. I'll take

1255
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: it over to our number two, Monty, because that means

1256
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: that I've won a playoff game at home and I'm

1257
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: going to the divisional round. Now it's not ideal. I'd

1258
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: rather have a buy, but that's gonna be a tall order.

1259
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Speaker 1: Right now. We don't have to think about that right now,

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00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: just think about beating New England on Sunday. Let the

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00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: chips fall where they made That's right, don't even think

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00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: about the playoffs. Just think about the Patriots. Mark appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Johnny Perfect. Welcome back to our second hour of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access Come on the Texans Radio Studio. It

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00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: was good to catch up with Mark in that first segment.

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Speaker 1: Things are kind of all moved around because of moving

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Speaker 1: the players show on Monday night, so that kind of

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00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: moved everything. So that's why we got an extra hour

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Speaker 1: of All Access tonight because we didn't have it last

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Speaker 1: night like we normally would. So by Wednesday we'll all

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Speaker 1: be back on track. And then of course Thursday's Thanksgiving

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00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: that throws it all off again. But you get the point.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably most thrown off more than anything, but I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. I'm your host, John Harris Football

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00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: and else a sideline reporter. Start to catch you up

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00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: with our good friend Spencer Tillman, who gives us his

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00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: thoughts about going into this game against the New England Patriots.

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00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: What did you make up Thursday? I would you think

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00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: of the performance and momentum if any moving forward? What's

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00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: it going to take this week to do the job

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00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. I thought they did what they were

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00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: supposed to do, and given fact to Tee why Hilton

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00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: was not involved in the lineup, we obviously know what

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00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: he has historically done to them, particularly here. I thought

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Speaker 1: that the game played out exactly the way I felt

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00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: it would. I knew they were gonna probably try to

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00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: put some run options in there or something a little

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00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: bit different to kind of, you know, make up for

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00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: missing one of the top rushers, and the option game

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00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: down that we got caught on that a little bit

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00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: with Lennon Scarlett kind of getting down and we set

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00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: pull that ball out, made an excellent read and scored

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00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: on that early. But after that's settling in more of

1294
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: a ben But don't break mindset on defense. It's perfectly fine,

1295
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: great way to win games and preserve your players, and

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00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, overall, I think we handled it

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: and took care of business like you supposed to it all. Spencer,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a question. It might be a

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Speaker 1: little weird, but go with me. How much do you

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: think Tom Brady is worth just the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, not the player he was in twenty ten

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00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: versus players now in tween nineteen, but just Tom Brady

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00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: being out in the field, just mentally knowing you're facing

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00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: that guy, how much is that worth for the Patriots

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00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: And how much difficult how much more difficult does that

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00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: make it for a team like the Texans to look

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00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: over there and go, oh my god, it's Tom Brady.

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00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: How much do you think that's worth. That's a great question,

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00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: because I think the fatina of any piece of art

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00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: adds to the value of it. I would say that

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: that's the case for him right now because what's carrying

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01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: them is their defense. I mean, he's still making wise decisions.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you, just from a pure analyst standpoint,

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01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: and I'm not a Tom Brady hater, I think there

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01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: is some diminishing aspects to his game right now. You

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01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: can see it. So if you know what to look for,

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01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: you can see those those things kind of creeping up

1318
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: in father time impacts all of us, and so it's

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01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: not something that you're trying to, you know, hate on somebody.

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01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: That's not it at all. But right now, that defense

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01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: is what's carrying them. That's why I think the Texans

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01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: I think could win a shootout over them. I think,

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01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: I really it's not a duel necessarily between the quarterbacks,

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01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: but the assets. If they're healthy enough, and I know

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01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: we're still ailing in a couple of key areas, I

1326
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: think this game may end up being a rather high

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Speaker 1: scoring game. Probably not. I'm not disrespecting the Patriots defense,

1328
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: but I think you can get them on their back heels.

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01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they've seen anything potentially what the Texans

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01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: could do offensively if they are healthy enough, and if

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Speaker 1: they choose to go down that path. Well, the Ravens

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01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: had success against this Patriots defense, and it's not like

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Speaker 1: you're gonna look at the Ravens and do exactly what

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Speaker 1: they do, Spencer, But to your point, you can mix

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Speaker 1: it up. I mean, Bill O'Brien's definitely going to look

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Speaker 1: to be diverse in the way he attacks the Patriots, right, No,

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01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: no question, And that's that's what I'm talking about. Without

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Speaker 1: seeing the obvious. When you the way the tight ends

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01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: have play such a key role at various stages during

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Speaker 1: the season, particularly early on, that potential is still there,

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01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: The RPIO options are still there. There's still capacity to

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Speaker 1: do all of those things, and so what a coach

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01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: does when they go into any given week and say, hey, look,

1344
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: look how much time do we have to prepare? What's

1345
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: the workload going to be like? And you've got a

1346
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: little extra time, So your mindset has got to be

1347
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: what what can the guys digest? Let's not you know,

1348
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: become you know, paralyzed by so much stuff that we're

1349
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: putting on the plate. What do they call it? Paralysis

1350
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 1: by analysis or whatever? But the bottom line is if

1351
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: they feel like they can go in with a fair

1352
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: full amount of content, I think they're going to have

1353
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: success against this team. As good as the defense is.

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: I think that you can only prepare for so much.

1355
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: I think the Texans have done enough over the course

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Speaker 1: of the year to be comfortable with anything. They've taken

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01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: this contest, and I think that they can wear New

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: England out. I really do, Spencer. Are you concerned about

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Speaker 1: the Texans run defense? I mean, they faced two of

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Speaker 1: the better running teams in the league, and the Ravens

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Speaker 1: and the Colts in back to back weeks, and those

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Speaker 1: teams that put up a pretty good number. Now, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens not too surprising because they've done it to everybody.

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Speaker 1: The Colts, I wouldn't say, it's horribly surprising because that's

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Speaker 1: what they chose to do that night. They went from

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Speaker 1: throwing for three twenty six and the first one the

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Speaker 1: throwing for one twenty nine. But they wanted to rely

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Speaker 1: on the run game. So does that make you a

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Speaker 1: little bit worried about the Texans run defense or do

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Speaker 1: you think it'll get back kind of where it was

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Speaker 1: facing the Patriot tough. It's a line that's not near

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Speaker 1: what the Colts is. Yeah, I think it'll kind of

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01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: vacillate back to maybe being a little bit looser. But

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Speaker 1: you listen the last couple of weeks those teams that

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Speaker 1: they've faced, the run game has been featured and it's

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Speaker 1: been significant. I mean, if you look what Indianapolis did

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01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: the week prior they had they had both backs over

1378
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: one hundred plus yards and that that was significant. So

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Speaker 1: you have to go in with the mindset you're gonna

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01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: stop them. And when you look at what Zach huntingdam

1381
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: Or was doing, Bronage McKinney, those guys were playing heavy man.

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01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: They were The run stops were unbelievable. They came to

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01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: the point of attack with physicality. It was a very

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01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: physical game in that regard, So I think the context

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01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 1: determined your strategy a lot. I prefer been don't break

1386
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: when you're facing teams like that, because you know it's

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01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: going to be a war, and it's it is a

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Speaker 1: war of attriction. You only have so many bodies at

1389
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: this level and you got to be able to balance

1390
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Speaker 1: it out. And I know people like fans tend to

1391
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: look at things on a third game basis, but in

1392
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: the back of your mind, if you're a coach, you

1393
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: have to say, Okay, if we do this, what are

1394
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: we sacrificing down the road? Can we win this one

1395
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: with this strategy? And you decide that and then you

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01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: become that in that situation. I know that's what Bill

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01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: O'Brien has always wanted to do from an offensive standpoint,

1398
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: to be able to adjust from week to week for

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Speaker 1: what the situation dictates, and they requires create activity from

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01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: the coach. It requires the ability to be versat out

1401
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: from a player's standpoint, you gotta be smart, you gotta

1402
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: be disciplined. So coach assesses that every single week and

1403
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: then they morph into what they've become. The best teams

1404
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: I've ever been around have had that capacity. We would

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01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: go from one year to the next year with maybe

1406
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: people will probably forget this too so long ago, but

1407
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: we had one year where Tom Rathman was a second

1408
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: leading receiver as a fullback on the San Francisco forty

1409
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: nine ers team and had a John Taylor and then

1410
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: the next year he had like sixteen yards fasting. Well,

1411
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: we had a modular offense that allowed anybody to plug

1412
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: in and do whatever it was. You just had to

1413
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: listen to the play and do what it told you

1414
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: to do. And if you were competent, you were capable,

1415
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: you were able to run the Simmons, you were going

1416
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: to have success. But it was predicated on what the

1417
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: defenses were doing to us that allowed us to export that.

1418
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: And so I think that's where phill O'Brien ultimately wants

1419
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: to be, and I think he's getting there. I just

1420
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 1: want to see that happen a little bit faster because,

1421
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: believe me, you're gonna have to get to a fast

1422
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: start against this this bunch. That's that's going to be

1423
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: the key, and we typically have I've gotten off to

1424
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: a fast start, which you need to have a fast

1425
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: start and play with the league against this bunch. Spencer

1426
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: as a Niner, Alum, what do you think of what's

1427
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: going on now in the Bay Area. I think they're

1428
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: doing exceptionally well. I mean, you got a great quarterback,

1429
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 1: and that's always the common denominator with any team that's

1430
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: having any success. Maybe the last time you go back

1431
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: and see a quarterback that maybe wasn't the focal point

1432
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: of any offense and ended up doing anything of any

1433
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: material value would be the two thousand Ravens with Trent delfe.

1434
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: But outside of that, you will not find pedestrian quarterbacks

1435
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: on teams that are having success. So it all begins

1436
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: with Garlockelo and what they're doing there and everything else around.

1437
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: They obviously got great players on defense and their lights

1438
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: out there, particularly the in Russia position. So I'm excited

1439
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: for him, man, really excited Spencer. I saw this yesterday

1440
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: and I thought of you, and I don't know why,

1441
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: but I did. Because you played in the league, you

1442
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: played for a long time, you played on special teams

1443
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: a lot, you played offense, you did a lot of

1444
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: different things. But I watched Joey Slide miss all kinds

1445
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: of field goals yesterday and it got me thinking about

1446
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: the relationship between players and kickers. Do players talk to

1447
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: kickers much, especially when they struggle like that? How do

1448
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: you handle that as a player? When you got a

1449
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: kicker the game is odd right there on a platyf

1450
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: for you to win and the kicker blows it, how

1451
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: do you you know, as a player, how do you

1452
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: handle that? You know what? You got to treat kickers

1453
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: like cats, if you if you watch cat Man, cats

1454
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: cats kind of do their own thing. You can call

1455
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: their names and they won't even look at you. Evan,

1456
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: there's story. But they don't want to get on the porch.

1457
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: When it's time to feed them, they'll come up and

1458
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: then they stay. Something to them, they'll sit there and

1459
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: think about it. They'll be like a dog with a

1460
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: new pan. They won't be quite whether they're true or

1461
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: whether they eat or not. And that's just the way

1462
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: that they are. You do not necessarily talk to kickers

1463
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: about anything substantive about what they do. You don't. You

1464
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: almost ignore it. And and that's the way you manage them.

1465
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: And I think to try to do anything else is

1466
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: really beating your head up against the wall. Man. That's

1467
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: that's the that's the strategy, that's the philosophy, that I

1468
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: always had, We talked about everything under the sun, but

1469
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: what they're doing point, that's the way they preferred, and

1470
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: I think there's a psychology to it and as a

1471
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: rationale to it as well. Spencer, I know you went

1472
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: to the enemy as a college, but the University of

1473
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: Texas having the kind of season they're having and the

1474
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: Aggies not as unsuccessful really, but they're coming off the

1475
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: loss to Georgia. Neither team competing for a national championship.

1476
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: Shouldn't they play each other? Shouldn't this be almost a

1477
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: law that they should play each other. Well, that's certainly

1478
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: going to be discussed a lot more. And I think

1479
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: if people just look at their brethren in the Big

1480
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: twelve and look what happened years ago. Now since Nebraska

1481
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: has left, and when you get a week in Texas

1482
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, those rivals start to disappear.

1483
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: And they did it because of money. Now we all

1484
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: know money is a very significant part of this whole equation,

1485
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: and I'm sure in Nebraska's case, they'll tell you they

1486
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: did it because of the academic affiliation of the Big

1487
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: ten as well. But when you start to destroy this,

1488
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: you have to remember that the currency of college football

1489
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: is tradition, and when you start messing around with that,

1490
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: you start affecting the power structure of the game, and

1491
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: you weaken yourself. And so the Big twelve is going

1492
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: to find itself on the outside looking in. Likely going

1493
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: to happen this year the way my calculations take place,

1494
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna be upset and they're gonna be offended,

1495
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have this discussion of breaking up things.

1496
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: But to get back to your point, what preserves all

1497
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: of that is the tradition. This is rivalry week in

1498
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: college football. I've got Washington Washington State, then we'll do

1499
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: Stanford and Notre Dame. Not necessarily a huge rivalry, but

1500
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: it's a significant game from the standpoint of the bigger

1501
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: names involved. So that part of it I want to

1502
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: preserve it. I think you're right they should be playing

1503
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: and that that's good for the game. We all know

1504
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: it would be good for the game. Those two playing

1505
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: in the Academy Shorts outdoors Texas ball right here at

1506
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: Energy Stadium in a summer twenty seven. That would be

1507
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: good for the game. It won't happen. I'm wise to

1508
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 1: that that isn't gonna happen. That's like praying for snow

1509
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: in Houston in July, not going to happen. It's unfortunate though.

1510
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,440
Speaker 1: The fun game this year Kella Mon against Sam Ellingery

1511
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: kind of nice. Not gonna happen. What happened. Now we

1512
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: might get one or the other, which should be kind

1513
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: of nice, and you can get fifty percent of it,

1514
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: but you'll never get both. You won't get one hundred percent.

1515
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: But it's fun to talk about. It's always fun to

1516
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: talk about, no question, and it's always fun to talk

1517
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: to our buddy Spencer Tillman. Now we get back, it's

1518
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,839
Speaker 1: closed down the hour with my good friend Drew Doherty.

1519
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: We go in the lab and we break down the

1520
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: Cream of the Crop players against the Indiapolis Colts and

1521
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: we give you something maybe the Patriots have never seen before.

1522
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: Next on Texans Access, we got one foul segment of

1523
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: this edition of Texans All Access. It's time to go

1524
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: in the lab. You're Dorty myself talking about Cream of

1525
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: the Crop from the Colts game, which seems like an

1526
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: eternity ago because it was Thursday. Yeah, and then after

1527
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have two reasons this time it'll be

1528
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: different versus the Patriots, but we start with the cream

1529
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: of the crop. Can my answer be the same to

1530
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: both questions? Sort of no, cannot, cannot is dang it,

1531
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: you just took mine. But anyways, no, go ahead, I'll

1532
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: let you have that one. I think creaming the crop.

1533
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you one that It's gonna sound a

1534
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: little weird. Nope, maybe a little strange. This is a

1535
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: little weird, little strange podcast. So it's perfect. Zach Cunningham

1536
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: sixteen tackles Zach Cunningham. Yeah, and I know people would

1537
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: wait a second run. Defense gave up one hundred and

1538
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: seventy five yards. I understand that. I get that they

1539
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: got I don't know, more than half sixty percent, maybe

1540
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,839
Speaker 1: about sixty percent of the yards rushing yards on two drives.

1541
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: That was it. Then they sandwiched their seventeen points in

1542
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: three drives touchdown, fuel goal, and then touchdown, and it

1543
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: was all. And that's that's what they did against us

1544
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: in the regular season game last year here, Yeah, the

1545
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: one that ended the nine game winning streak. They were punt, punt, punk, punt,

1546
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it went touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,

1547
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: field goal, touchdown, was like, whoa, twenty four points just

1548
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: like that. Well, they did that the other night, but

1549
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,959
Speaker 1: they only got to seventeen. But in the second half,

1550
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: after that drive, they made it seventeen ten. The Texas

1551
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: defense went back out after not a long drive by

1552
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: the offense, Deshaun hits fuller deep and it's a two

1553
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: and a half minute drive and I remember when he

1554
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: hit fuller deep. I was like, oh, this is great,

1555
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the defense got to go back out there.

1556
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: When the defense went back out there, I want to say,

1557
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: they went three and out and it was maybe the

1558
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: best drive they had had all day. But Zach was

1559
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: instrumental in that sixteen tackles. He tackled anything and everything

1560
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: that moved. He's been a leading tackler for this team.

1561
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: I just don't think he was the player of the game,

1562
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: and I just felt like he was absolutely brilliant. He's

1563
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 1: also perfected the tackle where he just sort of shoves

1564
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 1: a guy down like he like throws it down. It's amazing.

1565
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: It shouldn't work at this level, you know, because the

1566
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: guys are so big, strong, fast, Yet it does because

1567
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: he he's bigger, stronger, faster than these guys. But he

1568
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: just it's like he just tosses him down like a

1569
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: rag doll half the time. But I don't know how

1570
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: he does it. He's not the biggest linebacker. I mean,

1571
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: b Max got him by fifteen pounds at at a minimum.

1572
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: Yet he's so quick and fast. And I watched him

1573
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: on one one play in particular where he was the

1574
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 1: backside linebacker, I believe, so the players run away from him,

1575
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: and he ran through the backside and ran down Jonathan Williams,

1576
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, my goodness, just ran him down enough. Though,

1577
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 1: what he's able to like he's playing in different gear

1578
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: at times. Well, he's so different from any linebacker that

1579
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: Texans have had that position. When you think about the

1580
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: linebackers that played inside the main ones, you think about

1581
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: Demiko Kush. Yeah, now, Demiko is not the biggest guy

1582
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: in the world. Demiko was probably a good mix of

1583
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: Zac and Cush and Bacca. He was big enough, right,

1584
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: he was fast enough, and he always almost always had

1585
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: the right angle exact almost always. He was not that

1586
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: Zach isn't. But Demko is such a cerebral player, like

1587
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: it seemed like he knew where the ball was going

1588
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 1: before it was even going there. And Zach looks a

1589
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: little rangier, right, it might be a little faster. You're

1590
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: exactly right. It felt like Demiko was more of a

1591
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 1: polished product when he got here. But I think Demiko

1592
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: was a good fit for the time in which he played,

1593
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: when teams were still running offenses, not quite spread offense.

1594
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: There was kind of the verge of that, but he

1595
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: was He was a guy that could go sideline to

1596
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: the sideline. I think Demiko would have probably played pretty

1597
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: well to spread too, But I was gonna say Demiko

1598
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: in his prime could probably he could have played in anything.

1599
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 1: But he was a guy that just was so good

1600
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: tracking ball carriers um because he did understood angles. He

1601
01:13:55,479 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: was fast enough. But Zach's lighter, fast, and in the

1602
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: team's more explosive. But when he gets there, what I've

1603
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: been impressed with over the years that Zach's been here,

1604
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: what I've been impressed with is when he hits guys,

1605
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: they go backwards. And I worried about that. I really

1606
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: really worried about whether that was going to be the

1607
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: case with him. But he has been a phenomenal player.

1608
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: I think he deserves Pro Bowl consideration. I don't know

1609
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: that he's gonna get it, and I think that's a shame,

1610
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: but I think he deserves it, no questions asked. He's

1611
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: been phenomenal this year. He was great the other night.

1612
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: Now my cream of the crop. I'm gonna go with

1613
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: the chalk because it leads into what we're gonna talk

1614
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: about in just a little bit with the Patriots. But

1615
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: it's will Fuller. Welcome back will Fuller. He he essentially

1616
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 1: missed four games. He started one of those, but he

1617
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: only played like he only got like one catch the

1618
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: third play of that game that he missed the next three.

1619
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: And he comes back and what had we not seen

1620
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: in quite some time? Deep passes from Deshaun Watson comes

1621
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: back and boom, fifty something yarder to will Fuller, and

1622
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: then the other one a forty some yarder and then

1623
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: the two thirty yard plus touchdowns to DeAndre Hopkins. Bang

1624
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: bang bang bang. They were all big plays, huge plays,

1625
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: and they're there because Will Fuller makes defenses Confused. What

1626
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: did we hear from de Shaun Watson in the postgame

1627
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,879
Speaker 1: press conference on one of the touchdowns to DeAndre Hopkins?

1628
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 1: He said, I looked out there and one of the

1629
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,799
Speaker 1: corners or one of the safeties wasn't where he's supposed

1630
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: to be, so we took advantage of that. Well, that's

1631
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. I mean that it's the one hundred

1632
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: forty yards in itself is cream with a crop worthy.

1633
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: But what he's doing as far as causing confusion, and

1634
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,560
Speaker 1: that's not even to mention what he's going to do

1635
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: to help the run game by edging those safeties back

1636
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 1: a little bit towards the goalposts. I love, love, love

1637
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: the will Fuller is back and he gets my cream

1638
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 1: of the crop. I think his presence on the field,

1639
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: you just hit it changes a lot of things for

1640
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Safeties now, and having played the

1641
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: safety position, I was always larry of guys that could run.

1642
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: I couldn't because I couldn't run. I was not fast,

1643
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: but like to Miko, I knew where the ball was going.

1644
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: I was smart. I could be a step ahead and

1645
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 1: that helped me. But when there was a guy was

1646
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: speed on on the field, I just instinctively backed up.

1647
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be at twelve, I would be

1648
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: at thirteen, right, I was supposed to be at fourteen?

1649
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: I would be at fifteen or maybe sixteen yardage wise

1650
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: away from the ball. That that was just how I

1651
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: felt comfortable. And that's what's gonna change. And if you

1652
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: think back to the game winning drive, what was the

1653
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: first play of the fourth quarter on that game winning drive,

1654
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: it was Carlos Hide's thirty three yard run. Yeah, well,

1655
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: let's just hide get that if Fuller's nune in exactly,

1656
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the point you gotta back you

1657
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: gotta back off a little bit. Safety's aren't is quick

1658
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: to fill Kenny Moore. Who knows where Kenny Moore is

1659
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: because he's the guy that a lot of times is

1660
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: playing inside somewhere that could find Hide. So I kind

1661
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: of felt like they took advantage of that eventually, and

1662
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: we're able to get that because they weren't really getting

1663
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: much going in the run game. Now. They were trying

1664
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,879
Speaker 1: to run wide and that's just not against that defense.

1665
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 1: It's so quick going wide, they just weren't able to

1666
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: have success against And that's what they did. The two

1667
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: biggest runs they had in a nineteen yard by Duke

1668
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: and a thirty three yard by Carlos. The high sorry,

1669
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 1: the Duke run was a zone run that he knew

1670
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: he was cutting that thing up. He knew right away

1671
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: first three steps, you know, he did it. In the

1672
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: first step. He was just like, forget this, and so

1673
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: he cut it back to the center. Carlos's run was

1674
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: inside design run and it was kind of a little

1675
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: bit of a delay and the Colts got caught reading

1676
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: and the mind blocked it perfectly, and that just sprung him.

1677
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: But the safeties, we're having an account for will and

1678
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: having an account for hop, and I saw something in

1679
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: that game drew to that I've not seen. I remember

1680
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: after the Atlantic game when coaching browns up the podium

1681
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: and they asked him, why were you able to have

1682
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 1: such successful will full and he said, well, the Falcons

1683
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: were tilting the field towards full towards Hopkins, which his

1684
01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: point being, they're double hop, they're doubling hop wherever goes,

1685
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: they're giving help, So the safety's leaning that way. I

1686
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: saw it flip the other night. I saw a safety

1687
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: towards Fuller, moving towards Fuller instead of moving towards Hopkins.

1688
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,919
Speaker 1: You got two guys now on the field that demand

1689
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: two defenders absolutely, and beyond that, the Colts and you

1690
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: and you could see it on the second Hopkins touchdown.

1691
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: They felt like, yeah, our guy will cover him one

1692
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: on one and he got roasted. He got beatn de

1693
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: Sean put it on him. And that's exactly where what

1694
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: and now defenses are going, Okay, how do we do this? Now?

1695
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: The Patriots are a different challenge because of Stefan Gilmour

1696
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: and they feel like and the patris on hold on that. Okay.

1697
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: I said we had two reasons this time is going

1698
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: to be different. You and I share one of them,

1699
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 1: and that's about the guy we were just talking about.

1700
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: The Patriots have never seen Will Fuller and and Shaun

1701
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: Watson on the same field together. Right. They've seen will

1702
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: Fuller when he was a rookie with brought Gosweller, and

1703
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: they've seen to Shaun Watson the last couple of years,

1704
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: but they've never seen these two together. And Shaun Watson

1705
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: has unlocked the Will Fuller key. This is gonna be

1706
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: something for them to contend with. Because you just talked

1707
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 1: about doubling DeAndre Hopkins, you talked about doubling Will Fuller

1708
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: and now and I can maybe throw this in as

1709
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: our second one, but you also have to worry about Stills.

1710
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:28,560
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills can cause some damage. But the Patriots defense

1711
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: is amazing. No one's taken that away. But have they

1712
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: dealt with the challenge that the Texans present with Fuller

1713
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: and Hopkins and Stills when faced would a challenge earlier

1714
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: this year the Ravens. The Ravens put thirty seven up

1715
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: on the board, and look, the Ravens are a juggernaut

1716
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: right now. I mean they're in such a groove. Best

1717
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: Ravens team of all time. I mean, it's better than

1718
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: both Super Bowl hip. It's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. It would

1719
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: have been interesting to see what this offense, this Ravens

1720
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: offense would have done against ray Lewis's defense in twenty

1721
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: two thousand, because that was an amazing group that said

1722
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: the thing, if I'm the Patriots, this is your this

1723
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: is a decision in the in the past, what they

1724
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: would do when they they would face us is they

1725
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: would put their number one corner on our number two

1726
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver because they didn't feel like their number one

1727
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: corner could handle Hopkins on an island one on one,

1728
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: So they would put the number one, number one corner

1729
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: on the number two wide receiver, which was typically Malcolm Butler.

1730
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: They would Malcolm on the number two wide receiver and

1731
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: then they would double hop. When they brought on Gilmore,

1732
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 1: they started to change out a little bit. Then they said,

1733
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 1: Gilmore's got Hop one on one and then we'll we'll

1734
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: play with the others. We'll figure out how we're gonna

1735
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: play the other We don't have to double anybody. But

1736
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: it was typically double ten, double ten. That's what they

1737
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: were gonna do. And Belichick famously that Thursday Night game

1738
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, He's on the sideline. He's going tan

1739
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: tan like cover one, double ten, and that's that was there.

1740
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: They've done that before with other receivers. You know. Cover one,

1741
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: double eighty five was Chad Johnson, Double eighty four was

1742
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. Double ten was doubling DeAndre Hopkins. And the

1743
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 1: thing about it is figuring out where the double comes from.

1744
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes the safety opposite safety is the one that with

1745
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: double Sometimes it was the side that he was on

1746
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: was the double. You had to figure out who was

1747
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: going to double Hopkins. But now which one gets doubled?

1748
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: If I'm the Patriots a double fuller and because I

1749
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: have stuff on Gilmore, I take my chances that Gilmore

1750
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: can hang with Hopkins. Now that's foolhardy, because I don't

1751
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: know that I've seen a corner not named Jalen Ramsey

1752
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: that can go toe to toe with Hopkins and win

1753
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: significantly throughout a game. Now below Ramsey is Gilmore. That's

1754
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: the right way of saying this. There's book learning and

1755
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: street learning. Gilmore's book learning intelligent dude, but probably been

1756
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 1: more by the book, whereas Ramsey's so darn athletic that

1757
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: his technique is probably not totally pristine. But Ramsey's longer

1758
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: and more athletic. And I'm curious how hop which one

1759
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: hop would rather face. Would rather face the guy that

1760
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, you probably could take advantage of some of

1761
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: the lack of technique, or would you rather face the

1762
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: guy that's got great technique but he's not as good

1763
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: an athlete maybe as you or as James Ramsey is.

1764
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know that's how I would look at it.

1765
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: I think Simon Gilmore's one heck of a player, But

1766
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: the decision for Belichick changes. And the thing about it

1767
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: for Belichick would he'd always like to be able to

1768
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: do is spin the dial like Okay, we might put

1769
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: Gilmore on on Fuller, which I think is fullhearted because

1770
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: Fuller run right by him the first time that happens.

1771
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: But he might do that. They may just leave Gilmore

1772
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 1: on one side and just say who's on that side?

1773
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: Where you go? But they're good at all their corner positions,

1774
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: so they may feel like we might double Fuller, but

1775
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: then well that Hopkins go want to want to Gilmore

1776
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: both exactly because the last time that Kenney Stills face

1777
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots, he went eight for one thirty five in

1778
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: a touch and in that famous Hill Mary Stanford cal

1779
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: Band game right that they had, So it's gonna be

1780
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 1: interesting to see how they deal with that. But you

1781
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: bring up that point, and that is they're gonna do

1782
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: whatever possible. I think they'll still try to limit hop

1783
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: even though Fuller might be more dangerous down the field.

1784
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: I think they're not gonna want us to have eight, nine,

1785
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: ten play drives, and that might mean more Hopkins, more

1786
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: intermediate stuff, more short stuff or five to eight yard

1787
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: catches that move the chain, and they may want us

1788
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: to have to prove that going on field, so they

1789
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: might give us a little bit more Hopkins trying to

1790
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: take away Fuller. I don't know. It's gonna be interesting

1791
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: how they procase if that's the case, But either way,

1792
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: that leaves Stills pretty much all game one on one.

1793
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: And if they let the Texans do those long drives,

1794
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: that plays right into what the Texans have done so well.

1795
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: I've been so effective at their best to see, right,

1796
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: Like when you're at the Chiefs, when you you beat

1797
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, he just chewed up clock and he had

1798
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 1: some of those Bullock Constrictor like drives where you just went,

1799
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, it does thirteen fourteen plays down the field

1800
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: and scored touchdown touchdowns, right, And that's gonna that's gonna

1801
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: be the key in this one. Because the Patriots, when

1802
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 1: they have faced a team with the wing record lately,

1803
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: take it all the way back to the Super Bowl

1804
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, scored thirteen points against the Rams. When they

1805
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: faced the Bills, they scored sixteen points tom At a

1806
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: terrible game when they faced the Eagles, and the Eagles

1807
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,799
Speaker 1: don't have winging record right now, but against the Eagles,

1808
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 1: they had seventeen points against the Cowboys. Now, Cowboys, the

1809
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: conditions are a totally different animal together, but they but

1810
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: it was the conditions I think changed some of the

1811
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: things they want to do. But I think this goes

1812
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: to the other side of this. I could talk to

1813
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: myself in a boat. Both approaches like, hey, make the

1814
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: Texans go eight ten played eight to ten play drives,

1815
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: because that'll let them have the ball. But if you

1816
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: you bog them down in the in the red zone,

1817
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: they'll kick field goals. All we gotta do offensively is

1818
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: going to score a couple of touchdowns, and that's kind

1819
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: of what our offense can do at this point. The

1820
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: flip side is no, no, We've been blitzing all year

1821
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: and they have not been able to handle it, and

1822
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: our cover guys are so good and it creates turnovers.

1823
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: That gives our offense more possessions, and they need it

1824
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 1: because they haven't been scoring. So we're gonna roll the dice,

1825
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: play a bunch of man coverage and see if they

1826
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: don't have any big plays, and challenge them to create

1827
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: big plays, and if they get them, we just get

1828
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: the ball back. Sooner our offense has the ball and

1829
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: then they can replicate the eight to ten play drives

1830
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: that they're gonna need to go down and score. So

1831
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: I can actually see it both ways, and Belichick will probably,

1832
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: i think probably play both sides of it, depending on

1833
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: how the game is going, how it starts, and then

1834
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: he'll go to the side and say, hey, this is

1835
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 1: an explosive, deep ball down the field kind of game,

1836
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: or this is between the hashes, pound it, They're gonna

1837
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: try and run clock on you kind of game. He

1838
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 1: likes to figure out what kind of game it is,

1839
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: and then he coaches to that, and we will see

1840
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,520
Speaker 1: how that impacts Sunday night against the New England Patriots.

1841
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: Big thanks Mark Vandamir, Drew Doherty, DP City, all of

1842
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: you for listen. We'll see you tomorrow. Keep it locked

1843
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 1: right here for another edition of Texans Replay coming up next,

1844
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:03,719
Speaker 1: Go Texans,