Speaker 1: My marriage. I felt the love dying that was crying
Speaker 1: every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I
Speaker 1: had ever had.
Speaker 2: The number one health and wellness podcast Ja Shetty J,
Speaker 2: Sheddy One Only Sheddy, Cardi B. Welcome to on Purpose.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I have to tell you something, and
Speaker 2: I mean this. You can go back six years when
Speaker 2: I launched the podcast, people woul always ask me. They'd say,
Speaker 2: who do you want on the show? Like who would
Speaker 2: be your dream guest? And I'd always say Cardi B.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why because
Speaker 2: no one would ever put us in the same room together.
Speaker 2: We're just so different externally, but I believe there's a
Speaker 2: spiritual connection that we'll find out today.
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny. I saw a video of
Speaker 1: you and I definitely want I was like, I want
Speaker 1: to stand to my boyfriend. But it's about like asking
Speaker 1: difficult questions. And it's like when you when you ask
Speaker 1: difficult questions and you get through, you get over the
Speaker 1: difficult question and you've discussed the difficult questions, it really
Speaker 1: do make you stronger. It really do make the relationships strong,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my gosh, he really, It's like,
Speaker 1: is he a psychic?
Speaker 2: Did you send it to? Did you send it to?
Speaker 2: What did he say?
Speaker 1: He was like yeah, exactly, And I was like, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Did it change any behavior.
Speaker 1: On the next question?
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 2: First of all, I heard that you have a hidden
Speaker 2: talent that you can name the forty six presidents in order.
Speaker 2: Is that real?
Speaker 1: I can't go it comes and go, it comes and go.
Speaker 1: I just know a lot of weird different facts about presidents,
Speaker 1: and people will be like, well, why that is so random?
Speaker 1: Like when I was younger, I didn't really have like
Speaker 1: Nintendo's and I didn't sometimes I had cable and sometimes
Speaker 1: I didn't, So I just really ain't had no choice
Speaker 1: but read, and like I like to read like factual stuff,
Speaker 1: so I would just read like a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: history things. Like me, I will literally when I'm bored,
Speaker 1: Like you know how they give you the history books
Speaker 1: in your school, I will literally read the whole history
Speaker 1: book in a week, from front to back, just because
Speaker 1: I'm bored.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's impressive, though, do you still get bored now?
Speaker 2: Do you even have time to be bored?
Speaker 1: Or I don't be bored. But that's like what I
Speaker 1: really just like to watch and everything. So like I
Speaker 1: watched it like watch youtubes on like factual things like
Speaker 1: I just get into certain certain topics and I always
Speaker 1: go down a rabbit hole and then I'd be obsessed
Speaker 1: with it for a week and then it's just like whatever.
Speaker 2: I feel like you can't go anywhere without being recognized.
Speaker 2: I mean, you have such an iconic look. Even today
Speaker 2: I was admiring it when you walked in. I was like,
Speaker 2: what inspires this? But if you could be anonymous for
Speaker 2: twenty four hours? Yeah, what would you do if no
Speaker 2: one could recognize you, no one could see you? What
Speaker 2: would you do? Well?
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny, Like I really do, like
Speaker 1: I don't always look like this, So I usually go
Speaker 1: outside probably with glasses are probably not but I always
Speaker 1: go outside with like a oversized hoodie and then I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna lie. Due to COVID for like a
Speaker 1: long time, it really did help using the mask. But
Speaker 1: I do a lot of things by myself and no security,
Speaker 1: just because I'm a person that if I want to
Speaker 1: if I want to go and buy a steak to cook,
Speaker 1: I will go downstairs to Hole Foods and buy it.
Speaker 2: And yourself care no no, no, and no one will see you.
Speaker 1: They might or they might not. But I feel like
Speaker 1: I already maneuver how to like, Oh, it's Cardi B
Speaker 1: And I just walk fast and maneuver my way around.
Speaker 2: That's impressive. Yeah, you know, this show is all about
Speaker 2: getting to know the person behind the music, behind the
Speaker 2: start and behind the fame, getting to know the human
Speaker 2: behind it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I feel like your journey, even though you've talked
Speaker 2: about it, I'd love to dive into some parts that
Speaker 2: I find fascinating. Yeah, And I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 2: what's a childhood memory that you have that you think
Speaker 2: defines who you are today.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a lot. Well, it's not really like a
Speaker 1: childhood memory. But me and my sister we used to
Speaker 1: go to the same school, right, even though like she's
Speaker 1: three years younger than me. And she always be telling
Speaker 1: me this thing, right, she always be telling me this
Speaker 1: She used to She always tells me like, oh, I
Speaker 1: used to see you in the cafeteria in the morning
Speaker 1: by yourself, with your head down, and I used to
Speaker 1: feel so bad for you. And it's like why And
Speaker 1: she's like I don't know, because you just looked so lonely.
Speaker 1: And I used to tell her like it's like I
Speaker 1: was not lonely. I just always need time to think
Speaker 1: and be by myself. Like I'm a person that I
Speaker 1: have friends, but I don't really like to be around
Speaker 1: people that much. Sometimes I just I'm always in my thoughts,
Speaker 1: like there's like a hundred people and I feel like
Speaker 1: it's been like that since I was five years old.
Speaker 1: That talk in my head and plan things out, plan
Speaker 1: my future, plan my life. It's like I'm playing dollhouse
Speaker 1: in my head. You know that when you play with
Speaker 1: your dog, you make a scenario, not a scenario, or
Speaker 1: like you you build your home and this and your that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a little universe. I'm always planning a universe in
Speaker 1: my head. And it's just sometimes people say that I
Speaker 1: have like an interesting look, like like if I'm spaced out,
Speaker 1: I'm not spaced out. I'm I'm deep in my universe
Speaker 1: and planning five years ahead.
Speaker 2: Wow, so you're dreaming, planning, visioning. You do these different
Speaker 2: workers different use in your head, have different names or
Speaker 2: personalities or no, it's just no, it's not really.
Speaker 1: No different personalities it's just straight planning tomorrow, straight, planning
Speaker 1: for five years straight straight imagining what I what I want.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because it's like everything that I plan
Speaker 1: for I was five and dreamed of, I really gotten it.
Speaker 1: Even when I was like younger. Even when I was
Speaker 1: like younger, I used to look at my mom and
Speaker 1: I used to be like, I want to be so
Speaker 1: pretty and beautiful like her, and I grew up to
Speaker 1: be the pretty beautiful woman that she is. But I
Speaker 1: also wanted, like to be very successful, very I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say rich, but like very successful. I really hate
Speaker 1: it being poor. And I used to say, like it's
Speaker 1: that I refuse to have kids and raise them in
Speaker 1: the hood. I have to find a way to never
Speaker 1: do that. But I always wanted kids, and I figured
Speaker 1: it out. And I not only did I figure it out,
Speaker 1: but it's like I always have plan B, c's, and d's,
Speaker 1: but I don't have then had to settle for plan
Speaker 1: BC and D had. I settled for my dream, Like
Speaker 1: this is my dream job, and I have it. It's
Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult than what I saw in
Speaker 1: my dreams, but I'm living it. But I always wanted Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's incredible as that little girl who was sitting alone
Speaker 2: that your sister said she would see you and she'd
Speaker 2: feel sorry for you. But inside your head you were dreaming.
Speaker 2: Was it dreaming about music? Was it dreaming about getting
Speaker 2: out the hood? What were those dreams? What did they
Speaker 2: look like to that little girl back then?
Speaker 1: I always felt like I was going to be a superstar.
Speaker 1: And it's so weird because my grandma, she has like
Speaker 1: a lot of grandkids, but she always used to tell
Speaker 1: me that, And it's like why you always used to
Speaker 1: tell Like I don't understand why she used to tell
Speaker 1: me that all the time. Like I used to be
Speaker 1: like a little black sheep. I used to like nag
Speaker 1: a lot. I have like cousins. They're very pretty, they
Speaker 1: have beautiful, beautiful eyes. They just stand out so much.
Speaker 1: And it's not that I don't stand out, it's just
Speaker 1: like out of everybody. My grandma used to be like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a superstar. You need to practice how
Speaker 1: to sing because you're gonna be a superstar. And I
Speaker 1: just knew I was meant to be something like for
Speaker 1: some reason, me and my sister we have like really
Speaker 1: strong personalities and I feel like like the things that
Speaker 1: they used to tell me, they would tell her the
Speaker 1: same thing too, like all my teachers, all my friends,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like you're gonna be somebody. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be somebody someday. But I always used to wonder, like
Speaker 1: it's like, what is my calling? Because I used to
Speaker 1: like acting in school, but I'm not a good actress.
Speaker 1: I used to like singing, but I'm not a good
Speaker 1: I'm not the greatest singer, like from the pack from
Speaker 1: the school, I'm not the greatest singer. Like if I
Speaker 1: will audition for a play, they will pick somebody else
Speaker 1: because they sing better than me, or they will pick
Speaker 1: somebody else because they act better than me. So and
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, people used say like I'm so funny,
Speaker 1: but it's like I'm not a comedian. Hand THU show
Speaker 1: like I am. I'm naturally funny, but I can't see
Speaker 1: it as my job, just just just my mouth. This
Speaker 1: is just me being me. So it's like what is
Speaker 1: my calling? And I always wonder what is my calling?
Speaker 1: That everybody say that it's like I'm gonna be somebody,
Speaker 1: but what am I gonna be? I don't know? And
Speaker 1: and God gave it to me. God show it to me,
Speaker 1: and God really did give it to me. And here
Speaker 1: I am, and I just can't believe that millions of
Speaker 1: people know me.
Speaker 2: Congratulations when I hear you say that, and you always
Speaker 2: exude this confidence, your outspoken, you're bold. Was it always
Speaker 2: like that since you were a young girl? Or did
Speaker 2: that develop over time? What did? Where did that come from?
Speaker 1: I was like born like this, I was always I
Speaker 1: always been like this. I guess I got my real
Speaker 1: quiet side and I always got like into myself side,
Speaker 1: because like I said, I'd be in my own universe
Speaker 1: quiet planning and planning. But I feel like when I
Speaker 1: open my mouth or when I am who I am,
Speaker 1: it's just this is just how I am. But if
Speaker 1: I kind of think about it, I mean, like my
Speaker 1: family are very like funny, They're very loud. My parents
Speaker 1: are a little different from each other, but they're very loud.
Speaker 1: They have very strong personalities, both of them. So I
Speaker 1: feel like it's just all came into me. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know how people I don't know, maybe you know
Speaker 1: how people parents give their kids they looks. I think
Speaker 1: my parents gave me a mix of they both personality.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of both of them.
Speaker 2: Cardib even still today, finds time for her quiet side.
Speaker 1: I'm naturally quiet, though I don't.
Speaker 2: Like tell me about that. I want to know about that.
Speaker 2: I don't think people know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm naturally in my room, just deep in
Speaker 1: my thoughts and just deep, deep deep. I might just
Speaker 1: talk to you the whole day as a friend on
Speaker 1: the phone, but I don't really want to see you,
Speaker 1: which is so weird. Like I could talk to my
Speaker 1: friends all day long, but I like to be by
Speaker 1: myself all the time.
Speaker 2: I really people surprised when they figure that out with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And my friends don't feel a certain type of
Speaker 1: way about that because they know me. They know, yeah,
Speaker 1: they know I'm not the friend they want to go
Speaker 1: out to dinner. They know that I'm not that. They
Speaker 1: know I'm not the friend there. Oh, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: go to your house and chill and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But we will be on the phone like forever.
Speaker 2: So what about like parties, events, all of that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff that's like is it work? Is it networking?
Speaker 1: Or I do like to party, but sometimes I haven't
Speaker 1: even really had the time for it lately. I haven't
Speaker 1: really had the time for it. And to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, even before I was like famous and everything,
Speaker 1: I wasn't really a club girl. I was already a dancer.
Speaker 1: So I work in the club. So it's like I
Speaker 1: didn't really care to like, oh, I'm going to the
Speaker 1: club today for what I work in it Like, it's
Speaker 1: just like I always been like a person that just work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work,
Speaker 1: focus on the bigger picture, just focus on the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: I always wanted kids, So the goal is to be
Speaker 1: comfortable before the kids get here. That was always my goal.
Speaker 1: My goal was always to be a mother, but having
Speaker 1: your own. I had my own before I became a mother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you said just a few moments ago
Speaker 2: that you didn't want to raise kids in the hood.
Speaker 2: Talk to me about what we don't know about that,
Speaker 2: Like how hard was it? What was it that was
Speaker 2: so bad that you were like, I could never raise
Speaker 2: my kids in the place I grew up in.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of things, like sometimes when kids
Speaker 1: are like bad or they get into trouble, people automatically
Speaker 1: blame the parents. And you could have the best parents,
Speaker 1: and my parents, there are not criminals. They have never
Speaker 1: even committed a crime. My grandma used to tell my
Speaker 1: mom a lot, like I said, you're pretty for no reason.
Speaker 1: And I feel like they used to tell her that
Speaker 1: because it's like she's so pretty. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Caribbean folks, is like when you're pretty and you're this
Speaker 1: and that, it's like they always expect it to be
Speaker 1: with a man. They got a lot of money. And
Speaker 1: my mom she was never even that type of person.
Speaker 1: She was a very modest and honest, hard working woman.
Speaker 1: So and my dad, he's a good man. He's a
Speaker 1: party animal, but he's a good man. He's a good person.
Speaker 1: He's a good dad. However, you will end up going
Speaker 1: in the wrong path or going in the wrong direction
Speaker 1: because the influence around you, because certain peer pressure, or
Speaker 1: because you almost have no choice, especially if you're a boy.
Speaker 1: You never know if you're gonna have a boy or girl,
Speaker 1: especially if you're a boy, and when you are a girl,
Speaker 1: it is a little bit difficult, it is a little
Speaker 1: bit tougher. I feel like people just grow a little
Speaker 1: bit faster in the hood. Like when I was eleven
Speaker 1: years old, there was girls in my class in the
Speaker 1: sixth grade, eleven years old. I have nieces dire eleven
Speaker 1: years old. The other one of the played roadblocks nowadays,
Speaker 1: But when I was eleven years old, there was girls
Speaker 1: that were already at eleven in sixth grade. So it's
Speaker 1: like you go certain paths path or your environments. Like
Speaker 1: boys too in the hood, they're a little faster. So
Speaker 1: you know, you will be walking down the block and
Speaker 1: the typical little bad boy, he'll slap your ass. I
Speaker 1: don't know where he'll slap your ass. I don't know where.
Speaker 1: You start arguing him, we will smack the shot your
Speaker 1: face there. That's how boys, a lot of boys in
Speaker 1: the Bronx are. They're very like aggressive. They're aggressive of girls.
Speaker 1: They're aggressive. They grouped out. They they grope you. You
Speaker 1: just never know. Like the one of the reasons also
Speaker 1: why I'm so witty with my mouth. We were like
Speaker 1: why are you so witty? Why are you so think?
Speaker 1: Like going to school, it was like it's almost like
Speaker 1: like I think that's why I'm always so tough like
Speaker 1: boys or girls. Mostly boys, they used to like kind
Speaker 1: of like make fun of certain things, but not only
Speaker 1: just me, to everybody, like like you look at your shoes,
Speaker 1: they're leaning. Look at your hair. Your hair is never
Speaker 1: not done. So I used to go home and I
Speaker 1: used to go in the mirror and practice my jokes.
Speaker 1: And the next day I will be like, I can't
Speaker 1: wait till he flamed me. I got a joke or
Speaker 1: too for him. That's why I'm so weighty too as well.
Speaker 1: So it's like I don't want to raise my kids
Speaker 1: in that type of environment. I don't want to. And
Speaker 1: then on top of that, it's like it is fun.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun in the hood, but
Speaker 1: it's like it's not fun, like for me, right, it's
Speaker 1: not fun living in an apartment. Right. And contrary to
Speaker 1: what I say, I don't cook, I don't clean. I
Speaker 1: grew up with a mom that will make me brush
Speaker 1: the corners, the corners the apartment like brush it by hand.
Speaker 1: That's how clean my home had to be. My crib
Speaker 1: had to be every day. I was doing dishes, every day,
Speaker 1: I was mopping floors every day. I was making sure
Speaker 1: that I go outside to the parking lot and take
Speaker 1: off the garbage. And even though no matter how clean
Speaker 1: your apartment is, there will still be roaches, there will
Speaker 1: still be miceist because your neighbor probably a hoarder, the
Speaker 1: person downstairs is dirty. Y'all all live in the same building.
Speaker 1: You cannot avoid certain certain rodents and stuff. And it's
Speaker 1: like I don't want to put my kids through that,
Speaker 1: and it's like I have to find another way. And
Speaker 1: then then another thing that always like gets me in
Speaker 1: my head. It's like this one time, my mom, she
Speaker 1: was working very hard, but we still needed help, so
Speaker 1: she went to welfare to get like benefit, like a
Speaker 1: benefit card and stuff like that. And the lady, like
Speaker 1: my mom, she's the type of person like it's like
Speaker 1: if you route to her, she's gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't gotta take this, and she would just throw
Speaker 1: them out, like I don't gotta take nobody gotta gonna
Speaker 1: talk to me like that. She got a very strong character.
Speaker 1: And this lady was talking so rude and so nasty
Speaker 1: to my mom, and she was taking it because we
Speaker 1: needed the help. I don't want nobody to feel like
Speaker 1: they have to talk to me a certain type of
Speaker 1: way because I need the help. And it's like this
Speaker 1: could never ever be me. I would never want to
Speaker 1: like be in a situation where I have to go
Speaker 1: get welfare and the social worker is talking to me
Speaker 1: like I'm a dog, I gotta need you. And I
Speaker 1: just felt so bad for my mom because she just
Speaker 1: felt so I have to tell her face that she
Speaker 1: she was just like looking for the papers that she needed.
Speaker 1: Like it just that vision is always in my head
Speaker 1: and it's like efy getting me mad. I hope that
Speaker 1: lady I want punch in her face to this day
Speaker 1: and I don't want that. I ain't wanted that. And
Speaker 1: as a woman, even if you get with a man
Speaker 1: with money, you should have your own because one thing
Speaker 1: you learn from young, one thing I learned from having aunts.
Speaker 1: You could have a man with money. You can have
Speaker 1: a kid with money if you stop doing what that
Speaker 1: man ask you to do, or if that man decides
Speaker 1: to leave, or if you deal with a man from
Speaker 1: the streets and you go to jail, that's your child,
Speaker 1: that's you, that's your responsibility, that's your hustle. You got
Speaker 1: a ground for that child. It's always two parents, but
Speaker 1: sometimes not really two parents. And if that could be
Speaker 1: alive right there, and then that's why you always got
Speaker 1: to have your own. It's not even about oh, I
Speaker 1: don't need a man I don't need the father. I
Speaker 1: don't need the thing. But sometimes they get to the
Speaker 1: point that it's like they're gonna make you feel that way.
Speaker 1: That's why you need it. I had cousins and I
Speaker 1: have aunts, and I have it. That is like they man,
Speaker 1: have a little bit of money, have a little bit
Speaker 1: of land, have a little bit of this, and one
Speaker 1: of those mans are done and through with you and
Speaker 1: put you off the wringer. It's like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: dealing with that kid no more more. Or like you
Speaker 1: get these two hundred dollars every three four months when
Speaker 1: I want you to, I'm not dealing with that shit.
Speaker 1: That's why I was like, but I always wanted to
Speaker 1: have kids, So it's that I have to have my
Speaker 1: own ship before I become a mom. And that's exactly
Speaker 1: what happened. And only do I not only have one kid.
Speaker 1: I have three kids. And that's exactly not exactly the
Speaker 1: number that I want. But I always wanted a big family,
Speaker 1: Like I love family. I love family, and there's a
Speaker 1: higher possibility that I won't be in a living assistant home.
Speaker 1: But all the kids, how many kids do you want?
Speaker 1: I want like six?
Speaker 2: Okay, it's three more. I want like three more kids,
Speaker 2: three more kids. I love that for you. I mean
Speaker 2: hear hearing you say that. I mean, as I was
Speaker 2: listening to you, I could tell there's like a there's
Speaker 2: almost like a you can almost vision what that life
Speaker 2: was like. Yeah, And there's a part of you that's
Speaker 2: like so happy you got out. At the same time,
Speaker 2: there's there's such a part of it that the inside
Speaker 2: of you that you've been fighting against, you've been breaking
Speaker 2: out of, right, Like for all of these years, when
Speaker 2: was the moment you felt like I'm out, Like I
Speaker 2: broke out? Like, when was that moment where you really
Speaker 2: felt like I did it? I'm out, I made it.
Speaker 2: You know I'm safe now.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because every single time I feel like I
Speaker 1: felt like I was safe, I really wasn't. Oh interesting, yeah,
Speaker 1: when I got on TV. When I first got on TV,
Speaker 1: I was like, did I make it? I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like I made it? Because I used to see girls
Speaker 1: go on reality TV shows and then they will end
Speaker 1: up right back in the strip club where I was at.
Speaker 1: So I never felt like it's like, oh, on TV,
Speaker 1: I made it. It's like I'm almost there, but I
Speaker 1: didn't make it. Then when I got signed to a label.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm almost near making it because I'm signed,
Speaker 1: but I'm not where I want to be. Where I
Speaker 1: really felt like I made it was when bort Like
Speaker 1: Yellow came out. The million that I've made, the first
Speaker 1: real million that I made, I had to share nobody.
Speaker 1: I had to share with managers because they signed me
Speaker 1: to something. It's mine is mine. But I never feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: I still to this day don't feel comfortable, especially with
Speaker 1: how everybody just trying to take it from you all
Speaker 1: the time. It's like, it's like I fight every day
Speaker 1: to keep this level of success because people want it
Speaker 1: take it from you so bad, and people just feel
Speaker 1: like and they could, they could tell you when you
Speaker 1: deserve to have this success because it just looks so easy.
Speaker 1: But it's not, It really is not. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a challenge to stay here. It's a challenge to stay relevant.
Speaker 1: It's it's a challenge. Is to keep your mental health right.
Speaker 1: It is a challenge to getting up is every day.
Speaker 1: Every day is a challenge. Is a job. Everybody has
Speaker 1: a job. You can't come about getting up and doing
Speaker 1: a job. The only thing I could complain about is
Speaker 1: millions of people that love you, and then millions of
Speaker 1: people getting in your head and telling you that you
Speaker 1: don't deserve your job that you work hard for. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. We all have jobs. That's what it
Speaker 1: is about being Oh, don't don't complain, So everybody want
Speaker 1: to complain. It works so hard, It works so hard,
Speaker 1: It works so hard. You have to work hard to
Speaker 1: pay your bills. But when you work hard and people
Speaker 1: tell you that you don't deserve the success that you
Speaker 1: have and you don't deserve to do what you do
Speaker 1: after you put in so much work, that's with you
Speaker 1: for real?
Speaker 2: What makes you feel like that every day? What are
Speaker 2: the things that make you feel like there's people constantly
Speaker 2: coming at you? What does that look like in your life?
Speaker 1: I tell you something that has been going on for
Speaker 1: like a hot minute, right, Like a lot of people
Speaker 1: think that I put out music then and put out
Speaker 1: an album that I don't be putting out this and
Speaker 1: that because I don't know. They always say that, like
Speaker 1: I'm always getting pregnant all the time. But I don't
Speaker 1: think people follow timelines when it comes to having kids.
Speaker 1: I'm very seasoned by no, I'm very seasoned right now
Speaker 1: when I had my child. At the beginning, I canceled
Speaker 1: going on a tour with Bruno Mars because it was
Speaker 1: my first time having a kid. I did not know anything.
Speaker 1: I didn't have no nanny, no night nurse. I was
Speaker 1: figuring out all by myself. I was figuring out postpartum.
Speaker 1: I was figuring out everything right. But even when I
Speaker 1: had a child, it didn't stop me. Three months after
Speaker 1: I gave birth, I was going. I was doing shows,
Speaker 1: four or five shows a week into COVID. Then COVID
Speaker 1: happened and I put out this big record Wop, and
Speaker 1: I put up up. Then I got pregnant and people
Speaker 1: thought that I didn't put out an album because I
Speaker 1: got pregnant. But the reason why I didn't put out
Speaker 1: an album is because I didn't have a body of work.
Speaker 1: I just didn't have a body of work. So I
Speaker 1: couldn't put out no music because I didn't have a
Speaker 1: body of work. Then last year I was planning to
Speaker 1: have an album. I was planning to put out an album,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't focus. I felt in the deepest depression
Speaker 1: that I had ever had, and with that depression, I
Speaker 1: couldn't function. I couldn't function on nothing. And when I
Speaker 1: talk about function, it's not even like, oh, just working.
Speaker 1: I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, I couldn't do nothing.
Speaker 1: So that just halted everything that I had. So it's
Speaker 1: not really because of having a baby. Sometimes too, I
Speaker 1: don't be wanting to put music because I love being
Speaker 1: in the studio and I love creating music and I
Speaker 1: love perfecting my craft. And that's like baking a cake.
Speaker 1: You bake a cake, you practice baking a cake, you
Speaker 1: practice baking a cake, and then when you put out
Speaker 1: the songs, sometimes it'd be good, and sometimes like for
Speaker 1: people would just be like, we hate it and she
Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing this. And that's like you're baking a cake.
Speaker 1: You bake a cake. You bake a cake, and people
Speaker 1: eat the cake and then people be like, this is
Speaker 1: the worst cake ever, and they splat it. Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen the Simpson shit when they splat the cake.
Speaker 1: That's how I be feeling, And it's like that is
Speaker 1: the worst feeling ever. That's like a guy can you
Speaker 1: and you think you have the best pussy in the
Speaker 1: world and they tell you your pussy's trash. You should
Speaker 1: never nobody no more. That's just how I feel like.
Speaker 1: You work your work, you work, you try it on
Speaker 1: your best to perform perfect your craft, and somebody just
Speaker 1: tell you like, you shouldn't be doing this, you should
Speaker 1: never do this ever in your life. It brings you
Speaker 1: down so much and if which your mental so much
Speaker 1: that it's like, this is why I kind of avoid it,
Speaker 1: just for a piece of mind, Just for a piece
Speaker 1: of mind. I've been okay for almost a year. Like
Speaker 1: after I gave birth to my daughter, I was a
Speaker 1: little happy. I was going outside, I started dating, I
Speaker 1: started feeling really good. Sometimes I have bad days. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I have good days because I feel like I'm resetting
Speaker 1: in life. Last week, when I put out a song
Speaker 1: and it's not really the criticism in the song, the
Speaker 1: way that people ate me up, tore me up, chewed
Speaker 1: me up just because of one song, I feel like
Speaker 1: I didn't deserve that, especially for a song that I
Speaker 1: put so much work in that I just was like,
Speaker 1: this is why I don't really put music out like this,
Speaker 1: because I remember how this used to feel. This is
Speaker 1: a very terrible feeling to have. This is a very
Speaker 1: terrible feeling to have and tell yourself like it's like
Speaker 1: a lot of these people that are telling you these
Speaker 1: type of things, don't have no jobs, don't have no titles,
Speaker 1: don't have no this. But when it's millions and millions
Speaker 1: and hundreds of thousands of people, like, it's like, not
Speaker 1: only are they criticizing the song, they're criticizing you as
Speaker 1: a whole. It's been like, this is why I don't
Speaker 1: really put things up too much, because it's just like
Speaker 1: the mental health, the peace of mind is it's so much,
Speaker 1: it's you just gotta ask yourself some times, is it
Speaker 1: even worth it? Is it even worth it? Because I
Speaker 1: haven't felt down like last week for a very long time,
Speaker 1: for almost like almost like a year, almost like a year.
Speaker 2: Wow, talk to me about that depression for you, as
Speaker 2: confident as you are, as bold as you are, to
Speaker 2: be so vulnerable and I'm so sorry you went through that,
Speaker 2: But to be so honest and open about the fact
Speaker 2: that a year ago you were in this dark depression,
Speaker 2: it seems like the worst that had ever been. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what got you there? Why are you feeling so low?
Speaker 1: It was just a lot of pressure from my career,
Speaker 1: and I also felt like my marriage, like I felt
Speaker 1: the love dying from may end from from from may end,
Speaker 1: from his end. I was very lonely because I chose
Speaker 1: to be lonely, choose to be lonely. I was saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I can't go through this anymore. I
Speaker 1: have to put a stop to it. But when I
Speaker 1: said I was going to put a stop to it,
Speaker 1: because you could say you're gonna put a put a
Speaker 1: stop to it, and you could. You could go a
Speaker 1: month without being around somebody, It's not it's not unto you.
Speaker 1: It's not when you say so, it's when your heart says.
Speaker 1: So I kept telling myself, I will not contact this
Speaker 1: person for a month. I will not give in. I
Speaker 1: will not forgive this easy. I will not go back,
Speaker 1: I will not go to the patterns. I will not
Speaker 1: go through it. But I was crying every day. I
Speaker 1: was hurt every day I was out here in La
Speaker 1: and imagined by myself. I was thinking about it every
Speaker 1: single day. And when your heart is not done, your
Speaker 1: heart is not done. Then I told myself, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 1: I'm going to accept the I'm gonna accept my flaws,
Speaker 1: the flaws that I bring in this marriage. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: apologize for it, and I'm gonna work on it. And
Speaker 1: when I take accountability and you take advantage of me
Speaker 1: taking accountability, and you take that as a see, I
Speaker 1: know she'd be back instead of me taking accountability and
Speaker 1: you taken advantage of that, it really just killed everything.
Speaker 1: And while it was dying, I had a human growing
Speaker 1: in me and I just had and I just kept thinking, like,
Speaker 1: it's like, what's life going to be without this person?
Speaker 1: What life going to be without raising my last child?
Speaker 1: Without this person? What's life going to be with that
Speaker 1: person not being my friend anymore? Without nothing. When you
Speaker 1: have those type of thoughts, it would make you sad,
Speaker 1: It will get you depressed, it will have you lost.
Speaker 1: But I overcame that and I am the strongest that
Speaker 1: like I have ever been, and like I almost feel
Speaker 1: like when was I ever my strongest. I felt my
Speaker 1: strongest when I was twenty two, twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 1: That's when I feel like my strongest. And I was
Speaker 1: like living in a power, and that's how I feel
Speaker 1: right now, like I feel like I live in a power.
Speaker 1: And it took months for the heart to say you're done.
Speaker 1: Instead of my mouth and my brain, my heart had
Speaker 1: to be like you're done, because you could say it
Speaker 1: and you could take actions. But even if you take actions,
Speaker 1: if you're not done, you're not done. Like I kept asking,
Speaker 1: like around that time, I was working with Shakiro, and
Speaker 1: I was like, how did you over overcame this? Like?
Speaker 1: How did you overcame this? And it's like it's going
Speaker 1: to happen and it's like it will never happen. And
Speaker 1: it happened. It took some crying, it took some thoughts,
Speaker 1: scary thoughts. What I'm here, Yeah, I'm here and long
Speaker 1: as I've been, and I'm just.
Speaker 2: I love hearing that m.
Speaker 1: But it was hard.
Speaker 2: I can tell. I could tell, I could see it
Speaker 2: as I'm speaking to you. It's it's not easy. And
Speaker 2: I think those moments in all of our lives are
Speaker 2: the most difficult moments. What did you do for your
Speaker 2: mental health at that time? What did you do? What
Speaker 2: actions did you take? What did you have to do
Speaker 2: to keep yourself together and come back the strongest you
Speaker 2: are right now? I think there are so many people
Speaker 2: who are listening who've probably been through similar things, who
Speaker 2: feel broken, feel hurt, feel lost and confused. What works
Speaker 2: for you that helped you come back the strongest you've
Speaker 2: ever been.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just time because I
Speaker 1: kind of did a little bit of everything, Like I
Speaker 1: did do therapy at this at this or therapist. She's
Speaker 1: really good. By the way. It was like on Zoom
Speaker 1: and it was like I was telling myself like I
Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe you. I'm telling a whole
Speaker 1: stranger my feelings, my thoughts, my personal business for three
Speaker 1: hours straight. What then am I doing? That just feels
Speaker 1: so weird. I was in I did therapy for I
Speaker 1: did a couple accessions. They gave me no nothing. I
Speaker 1: was on Spring all summer recording. It just wasn't like enough.
Speaker 1: I just felt like I just had to let it
Speaker 1: die on its own. Let things die on its own.
Speaker 1: And the bad thing about it is that it's like
Speaker 1: now only am I dealing with that? That's my personal life.
Speaker 1: I was also dealing with fans putting pressure on me
Speaker 1: because they want, you know, they want album, they want
Speaker 1: products from me. I had people that don't like me
Speaker 1: talking down on me, and then I had peers trying
Speaker 1: to start pounds with me and all of that while
Speaker 1: I was going through a mental sking breakdown at home.
Speaker 1: So it was just a lot it was like, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to work it, I'm trying to sleep it. After
Speaker 1: I gave birth to my daughter, my baby girl, I
Speaker 1: was just like, get take a break from work, and
Speaker 1: I was just going out every weekend with my friends.
Speaker 1: It was scary talking to somebody else and giving them
Speaker 1: a little piece of me, not just out my heart,
Speaker 1: just a little piece of me.
Speaker 2: And but.
Speaker 1: I overcame that and I just that's why I feel
Speaker 1: like I just became a little bit more better, Like
Speaker 1: just resetting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. It's a good reminder that time is
Speaker 2: the ultimate reset, and time does have a healing power
Speaker 2: that we you know, the cliche of time heals or wounds,
Speaker 2: but it's the truth. But it's true. It's a cliche
Speaker 2: because there's truth in it. Yeah, there's some reality in
Speaker 2: it that time and distance and being patient enough I was.
Speaker 2: I was working with a client recently who was going
Speaker 2: through a breakup, and when we would speak, in the
Speaker 2: first month, she would tell me every single day that
Speaker 2: she couldn't stop thinking about the guy she was breaking
Speaker 2: up with that broke up with her, And then the
Speaker 2: second month she'd tell me every other day, and then
Speaker 2: the third month she'd tell me once a week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then the fourth month she was just telling me
Speaker 2: once a month, and I was like, you don't see it,
Speaker 2: but I see, yeah, that it's affecting you less and
Speaker 2: less and less as time goes on. But when it's you,
Speaker 2: you feel like you're just still stuck there. And so
Speaker 2: it's such a great reminder that time is the ultimate
Speaker 2: reset and time does heal.
Speaker 1: And just because time heal, like in the meantime, don't
Speaker 1: think that like you shouldn't like try to get help
Speaker 1: because it's like therapy didn't really help me, like that
Speaker 1: I didn't work for you, not as much. Well maybe
Speaker 1: because maybe because I didn't get to the park of
Speaker 1: where you get the help. I mean I did do
Speaker 1: this like six sessions, I don't know how long. Like
Speaker 1: sometimes when I give advice to girls, I be like, bitch,
Speaker 1: boss up, boss up, quote to word, get pretty. But
Speaker 1: even when I was doing that, I had like a
Speaker 1: pain in my heart. And sometimes when I was going
Speaker 1: out with my friends and I was having a good time,
Speaker 1: it will always be like around four thirty am when
Speaker 1: it's time to go home and I'm drunk and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, I am alone. I don't have nobody
Speaker 1: to talk to, and it feels really weird, and it
Speaker 1: feels very lonely, especially when you're used to that. However,
Speaker 1: don't don't avoid that, don't like, don't avoid that. But
Speaker 1: it will be time that will heal it. It will
Speaker 1: be time. Time just heals everything.
Speaker 2: When you said again last week, you're saying, when you
Speaker 2: put new music out, it was kind of the lowest
Speaker 2: you'd felt in another year. What's the hardest part for
Speaker 2: you to take that criticism? Because, like you said, you're
Speaker 2: quick with it, You've got responses, You've lived in a
Speaker 2: place where you had people coming at you. Why is
Speaker 2: it so hard to put out something you love. It
Speaker 2: seems like you've really put your heart into your work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so when you put that out, is that why
Speaker 2: the criticism hurts the most? Because you put so much
Speaker 2: heart and soul into your work.
Speaker 1: Yes, because I put it like a lot. I always
Speaker 1: I don't like what like. I'm not a lazy person,
Speaker 1: and I do understand my flaws. Well, it's not really
Speaker 1: my flaws because a lot of people who say something
Speaker 1: about my accent, right, But it's funny because my accent
Speaker 1: to some people might be my flaw, but it's also
Speaker 1: my superpower and what makes me unique. Some people say
Speaker 1: that I have a Spanish a Spanish accent, but I
Speaker 1: really don't really have a Spanish accent. I have a
Speaker 1: very unique accent. I talk very unique. When you try
Speaker 1: your best to like perfect your accent, perfect your flows,
Speaker 1: perfect everything. I always trying to perfect everything that I'm
Speaker 1: doing at the time. I always trying to perfect it.
Speaker 1: Like even when I was a stripper, I just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm a stripper, but I'm gonna be the best poll
Speaker 1: dancer in here, and I'm a fucking bust my ass,
Speaker 1: bust my knees, get practice every day and to be
Speaker 1: the best at it. That's the same with music. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna perfect it. That's the same with my marketing, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna perfect it. That's the same with my business. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna perfect it. I like to perfect things, and if
Speaker 1: it's not the best things, if I'm not the best
Speaker 1: at it, I said that I tried to be and
Speaker 1: I worked my ass off to be and I didn't
Speaker 1: make it easy for myself. So when people just throw
Speaker 1: it in your face and then make other narratives on
Speaker 1: top of it. With that it's like that is so mean.
Speaker 1: And it's also like different narratives of you, Like it's like, Wow,
Speaker 1: you don't even know me. You don't even know me,
Speaker 1: and you're making all these story scenarios, all this this
Speaker 1: over one song. Like for example, when I did this
Speaker 1: song and people didn't like this song so many people
Speaker 1: was like they just car Carty never deserved to be
Speaker 1: a rapper. They just made it so easy for her.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because it's like this shit was not
Speaker 1: given to me. I worked my ass off for me,
Speaker 1: and I planned it just like you see when I
Speaker 1: was a little girl used to plan everything. I plan
Speaker 1: every step, every single step. And I might even be
Speaker 1: inspirational to other artists coming up because for a long time,
Speaker 1: since I have such a big personality, people just felt like,
Speaker 1: she's funny. She's funny, she's funny. So it was really
Speaker 1: hard for labels to take me serious. And some labels
Speaker 1: were trying to give me scraps to do a slavering
Speaker 1: record deal. And even when I was on TV and
Speaker 1: I thought that was gonna be my big break for
Speaker 1: people to recognize me as an artist, it wasn't. I
Speaker 1: was doing good numbers on my mixhape. It wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: So the money that I was getting for partying and hostings,
Speaker 1: I took that money. I made my own concerts, and
Speaker 1: the best thing about it is that everything is documenting.
Speaker 1: I did my own concerts five hundred to four hundred
Speaker 1: people in New York. Eight hundred people came out singing
Speaker 1: my songs. And I went to the label and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is why you need to sign me.
Speaker 1: It's not just the Instagram. It is real life. And
Speaker 1: the fifteen thousand dollars that I used to get for
Speaker 1: hosting parties, I used it to rent cars, ramt buses,
Speaker 1: rent venues, to perform my songs, to show these labels
Speaker 1: like it's like I'm the one. This shit ain't fake.
Speaker 1: This shit ain't a personality thing, this ain't a love
Speaker 1: and hip hop thing. This is this is what my
Speaker 1: music is doing. This is the people singing it, doing
Speaker 1: all of that and not being this far after you
Speaker 1: plan everything and people will tell you that you don't
Speaker 1: deserve it and you got it because of this this
Speaker 1: and that that pisces me the off because everything, everything
Speaker 1: that I did is documented. This shit wasn't given to me.
Speaker 1: I didn't open my legs for it neither. So that's
Speaker 1: the type of ship that be getting me angry, Like
Speaker 1: it's I don't tell me that I didn't put the
Speaker 1: work in. When I put the work in. There's days
Speaker 1: that I miss, I miss birthdays, I miss I miss birthdays,
Speaker 1: I miss family events. This ship has gotten in the
Speaker 1: way of like my my, my personal relationships, marriage and everything,
Speaker 1: just for somebody told me, somebody that never did shit
Speaker 1: in their mother life told me that I don't deserve it.
Speaker 1: Got here.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, you know what, though, I also find
Speaker 2: that Instagram and TikTok or whatever platform. It is the
Speaker 2: comments that are negative are just loud because you can
Speaker 2: literally go to someone's comments section and see negativity or whatever.
Speaker 2: But then, like you said, you go to an arena
Speaker 2: and everyone in the arena screaming their name and singing
Speaker 2: their songs, and so it is this really weird thing
Speaker 2: that happened that happens for the mind where you're watching
Speaker 2: your page or you're watching yourself on someone else's page,
Speaker 2: and there's criticism and actually there's all these other people
Speaker 2: that love you. The negativity and the hate is just
Speaker 2: so loud. It is people say stuff. Yeah, whereas the
Speaker 2: people I love you, they just press the heart right.
Speaker 2: So it's always like that weird thing where I'm like,
Speaker 2: the mind just overvalues negative feedback and undervalues the positive
Speaker 2: feedback because the negative feedback is just so critical and
Speaker 2: loud and heavy. When you reflect on it and after
Speaker 2: you think about it for a week, do you think
Speaker 2: I want to prove them wrong? Or do you go, actually,
Speaker 2: who cares about them? Where do you end up after
Speaker 2: a week of reflecting on it?
Speaker 1: Like last week, right, I was in tears and I
Speaker 1: was telling myself. I was telling myself like it's like
Speaker 1: not only myself, I told this to my friend. Actually
Speaker 1: I told this to my friend. I was like, sometimes
Speaker 1: people say, don't let the devil win, but what happens
Speaker 1: if you let the devil win? Maybe I need to
Speaker 1: let the devil win so I can have a piece
Speaker 1: of mind. And then I'm like thinking to myself, like,
Speaker 1: why the fuck would I ever say let the devil win?
Speaker 1: In imagine praying to God on your knees every single night,
Speaker 1: asking God, God, please bless me with this. God, please
Speaker 1: give me that. God, please give me this, Please give
Speaker 1: me that, Please bless me with this. Please bless me
Speaker 1: with that, just so you could, like everything that God
Speaker 1: gave you, tell the devil here you can have it,
Speaker 1: because he's sending Sometimes the devil sends evil and human
Speaker 1: forms and human mouths and human's tongue, just so you
Speaker 1: could tell the devil to have it. Like imagine how
Speaker 1: God feels. Imagine God be like, all right, baby, all right, girl, here, here, here, here,
Speaker 1: have this. You wanted this, here, here's what you get.
Speaker 1: And then it's that he's giving you something. And then
Speaker 1: you go to school and they'd be like, that's ugly
Speaker 1: and that's something that you've been asking him for a
Speaker 1: long time, and now you don't like it because some
Speaker 1: he told you that it's ugly. And it's like, how
Speaker 1: almost let the devil win. And I was telling myself that.
Speaker 1: I was telling myself that, and like I said, I
Speaker 1: was telling it. But sometimes you got to have believe
Speaker 1: it from the heart. Because your mind could tell you it,
Speaker 1: your moth could say it, you gotta believe it from
Speaker 1: the heart. This week, though, I feel so much better
Speaker 1: and I feel so much confident, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let the devil win. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be like you know what I was telling my
Speaker 1: team like, I was like, you know what, I just
Speaker 1: need some days off. And it's like, how the are
Speaker 1: you going to take some days off when your team
Speaker 1: been planning all of these all of these things that
Speaker 1: you have to do for your album roll out because
Speaker 1: of these people that are spewing things that the devil
Speaker 1: wants you to think of yourself, I almost let this
Speaker 1: mother win.
Speaker 2: Don't let the devil win, because how you.
Speaker 1: Think God feel, How think God feel? CARDI gave you
Speaker 1: all this ship you wereen asking for it forever just
Speaker 1: so you could say that. That really pissed me off
Speaker 1: about myself, because I can't believe I said that.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I think it's human. I mean, even as
Speaker 2: I'm listening to I'm thinking everyone will be relieved because
Speaker 2: you know when someone is confident and as bold as
Speaker 2: you are and as outspoken as you are, which is
Speaker 2: which are all amazing qualities. The truth is, though, that
Speaker 2: we all have these human moments. Yeah, and it's not
Speaker 2: a weakness. It's natural for all of us to feel pain,
Speaker 2: to experience, sadness, to experience and it humanizes you in
Speaker 2: a good way. It makes me feel like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: if CARDI feels that, then hey, I can feel that too.
Speaker 2: You know, like if she goes through those days and
Speaker 2: she gets out of them and a week later she's
Speaker 2: feeling better, and a year ago she was in a
Speaker 2: real mess and she's feeling better, then then maybe I
Speaker 2: can take something from that as well.
Speaker 1: I'm not a perfect person. I'm not a perfect person,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm a little bit misunderstood.
Speaker 2: How do you think you're misunderstood?
Speaker 1: I don't even want to bring this up again, but
Speaker 1: is that I can tell you how I misunderstood. I
Speaker 1: actually got dragged for weeks because of this, so I
Speaker 1: made this. I think I'm just a little misunderstood sometimes
Speaker 1: I could be I don't have a dog. I'm not
Speaker 1: a dark humor person. I'm not a dark humor person,
Speaker 1: but sometimes like my humor could be a little rough,
Speaker 1: and I feel like my humor could be a little
Speaker 1: rough because, like you know, like I said, like boys
Speaker 1: in the Bronx, they will make really tough jokes on you.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, like it's like like
Speaker 1: a family like mine, We're always cracking jokes on each other.
Speaker 1: Like it's like like being Caribbean careban people like if
Speaker 1: you're too skinny. They'll be like, girl, you shape like candle,
Speaker 1: Like you shape like a candle, just small like a candle,
Speaker 1: like a white candle, or like Dominicans like where you
Speaker 1: shape like big from the top and small and be
Speaker 1: like what what you got. It's a certain type of yam.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's rude, but it's like it's just
Speaker 1: something that it is, like people just joke around that
Speaker 1: it's just so naturally. So sometimes my jokes might be
Speaker 1: a little bit not for everybody. And when I make
Speaker 1: certain jokes, like like I made a joke the other
Speaker 1: day with my fans because they they literally started the
Speaker 1: joke and then I continue the joke and because of
Speaker 1: the joke and I refuse to apologize for it, people
Speaker 1: was just saying that I'm just such a mean person
Speaker 1: that I was trying to bully people, that I'm hurt
Speaker 1: for the people. But it's like I wasn't even trying
Speaker 1: to hurt nobody. My intent wasn't to hurt nobody. It's
Speaker 1: just like everybody naturally jokes with their friends, Everybody naturally
Speaker 1: jokes with their peers. Everybody just might say not not
Speaker 1: the most nicest jokes or stuff like that. However, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hurt nobody. I don't want to
Speaker 1: hurt nobody, and so many people criticize me because of
Speaker 1: that or like judge my character because of that. But
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not this evil, mean person that people
Speaker 1: think that I am. I'm very actually compassionate. I'm too
Speaker 1: compassion That's why I cry for There's something that might
Speaker 1: be going on on the other side of the world,
Speaker 1: I'm crying for it. And it's like, why am I
Speaker 1: crying for this? Like this is crazy. I'm very compassionate
Speaker 1: and I'm very understanding, and I'm a libra, so I
Speaker 1: see always two sides of the scale. I always have
Speaker 1: sympathy just a little. I even have sympathy for bitches.
Speaker 1: I have sympathy for bitches that my men and they
Speaker 1: have taken a family loss. I'm like, damn, I feel
Speaker 1: bad for her. That's how sympathetic I am.
Speaker 2: Why do you feel sympathy for them? Like where does
Speaker 2: that come from? Or what do you feel?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just how you made.
Speaker 1: Just how i'm. That's just how I made and stuff
Speaker 1: like That's just how I am. However, people just have
Speaker 1: this thought of me. And that's because my mouth is
Speaker 1: so rough, Like I'm a little rough and I curse
Speaker 1: like a sailor. And I give advice very strong. But
Speaker 1: everybody in my family give advice very strong. And I
Speaker 1: don't have yes man's neither. So my friends will give
Speaker 1: me advice in the most rudest way. And it's like, damn, bitch,
Speaker 1: do you like me? But it's the truth, and that's
Speaker 1: just how I am. That's how I'm going to talk
Speaker 1: to you. And that's just how I am because it's
Speaker 1: the truth.
Speaker 2: And you're like that with everyone. It doesn't change for anyone.
Speaker 1: And I'm like that with everyone.
Speaker 2: How about the kids, I'm like that.
Speaker 1: I'm like that when my kids too, Like, God, damn it,
Speaker 1: I'm tired. But you can tell me I'm a bad mom.
Speaker 1: I'm a great mom if I'm good at something as
Speaker 1: being a mom, But sometimes like get the you little
Speaker 1: get the God damn it, I'm sick of you. That's
Speaker 1: how I talk. Does that make me a bad mom?
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm a bad mom. Shit, I give
Speaker 1: them too much.
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that. I was. I was talking
Speaker 2: to a parenting expert on the podcast a few weeks ago,
Speaker 2: and she was saying that parenting is the most inconvenient thing.
Speaker 2: She goes, you love them, but they're inconvenient, Like it's hard,
Speaker 2: like if you're honest about it. And so, yeah, there's
Speaker 2: a real feeling about how tough being a mom is.
Speaker 2: How do you balance being a superstar and being a mom?
Speaker 2: Like how do you make it? You said it yourself,
Speaker 2: you want to be the best at everything. When you
Speaker 2: do something, you want to be the best at it.
Speaker 2: So I assume that applies to being a mom too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so it's like, how do you do that? What
Speaker 2: is it to you? What makes you a great mom?
Speaker 2: What are the parts that you focus on? And how
Speaker 2: do you balance those two crazy worlds?
Speaker 1: I think that what makes me. I think that what
Speaker 1: makes me like a girl mom. I don't give my kids.
Speaker 1: It's not that I give my kids everything, but they
Speaker 1: just think I'm so funny. Like even when I curse
Speaker 1: at them, they just think I'm so funny. It's like
Speaker 1: I'm being serious with y'all. But they just love me.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they I mean, of course I
Speaker 1: know why they love you, but it's like why I
Speaker 1: love you so much. I guess I have a good
Speaker 1: mom because they love me so much. They just think
Speaker 1: I'm so entertaining. They think I'm so fun. Even when
Speaker 1: we're just laying in bed, they just want to lay
Speaker 1: in bed with me. Ain't no target. We ain't gonna
Speaker 1: know they got damn target. We ain't going to target
Speaker 1: to ask you got them roadblocks. That's exactly how don't
Speaker 1: come here asking me for the rocks. You asked me
Speaker 1: one more time for an iPad for one of your cousins.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a problem. This is exactly how I
Speaker 1: talk to my kids. And they still love me. They
Speaker 1: just love me. I don't know, they love me for
Speaker 1: who I am. They love me. I don't even know
Speaker 1: how to explain it. I do. I do give them everything, though,
Speaker 1: But now giving them everything doesn't always make you the
Speaker 1: greatest mom, because it's like you've seen. You've seen cases
Speaker 1: where like the parents work so hard, they give their
Speaker 1: kids everything and it's not enough. Like them two brothers,
Speaker 1: they call it, oh yeah, yeah, you could give them everything,
Speaker 1: But if they don't love you, they just don't love you.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, they just just love me. I
Speaker 1: just always remind them that I love them, but I
Speaker 1: will curse them out though.
Speaker 2: What's a quality or a skill that you have that
Speaker 2: you really want them to learn and develop and grow
Speaker 2: as they get older. I know they're young right now.
Speaker 1: But please don't be a bumb. Please don't be a bumb.
Speaker 1: Please don't be lazy. Some people are some people have
Speaker 1: the look, the intelligent, the talent. Some people really have that,
Speaker 1: but they don't go nowhere because you're lazy. Don't be lazy.
Speaker 1: Don't just be all your parents are this and that. No,
Speaker 1: be your own person, be your own human, Be something,
Speaker 1: be something, Be something that you could be proud of.
Speaker 1: My mom she was not. She was a lunch lady practically.
Speaker 1: But I am very proud of my mom because she
Speaker 1: used to work her ass off. She could have went
Speaker 1: to my grandma like, I'm going through a tough time
Speaker 1: right now, can you raise my kids for a year
Speaker 1: or two. She never did that. My grandmother's as well.
Speaker 1: One of them got ten kids, the other one got
Speaker 1: thirteen kids. They work every day. My grandma from my
Speaker 1: dad's side, she gave birth on her kids in her
Speaker 1: wooden house and then a couple of days later she
Speaker 1: working back in the farm, and she brong all her
Speaker 1: kids to America one by one different time, saying with
Speaker 1: my grandma she had from my mom's side, she had
Speaker 1: thirteen kids. She used to cook, cook, cook, cook self food,
Speaker 1: sell food, self food. She brung all her thirteen kids
Speaker 1: over here, Like there's no excuse, but I could say
Speaker 1: that because they did that, And you're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to say that about me, Like it's like my mom
Speaker 1: worked every day. I seen my mom work every day.
Speaker 1: Be that, be that one day. You're gonna have kids
Speaker 1: one day, and you want your kids to say that
Speaker 1: about you, that you worked hard every day, that everything
Speaker 1: you got you deserved it, that you made it, nobody
Speaker 1: gave it to you. You don't want to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're just successful because you're a whole man. Like I
Speaker 1: have son, I have a son. You don't want nobody
Speaker 1: said that you fly and you fire because you're somebody's son. No,
Speaker 1: I'm fly because I'm my own man. I made myself
Speaker 1: a man. I work my ass off. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: a bitch one day. You don't want your bitch to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, he a mama boy, he a daddy's No,
Speaker 1: I'm a hard working man. Baby girl, you go on
Speaker 1: saying with my daughters, you know, nigger gonna roll you
Speaker 1: over because you got your own shit. You're more than
Speaker 1: just a pretty face. Be a boss, Be something. Please,
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck what they do whatever, Just
Speaker 1: just do not have that lazy bone on you, Like,
Speaker 1: ain't no way that I'm busting my ass for you, mother,
Speaker 1: this just so you could end up not being ship.
Speaker 1: I'm giving y'all everything every even when, even when they're
Speaker 1: eighteen and stuff like that, and it's time to leave.
Speaker 1: If you want an apartment, if you want to if
Speaker 1: you want a car, I'll give it to you. But please,
Speaker 1: please become something. Don't be nothing. Please don't be nothing.
Speaker 1: That would be the worst disappointment they could ever do.
Speaker 1: Don't disappoint me like that. What if y'all do, just
Speaker 1: don't be a nothing.
Speaker 2: If you give it to them the journey you think
Speaker 2: they'll be lazy then because if you give them an
Speaker 2: apartment and you give them a car, then they'll feel like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't need to work because Mom's got me.
Speaker 1: No, because it's like like, all right, for example, I
Speaker 1: want to call I went to college, right, but I
Speaker 1: had to drop by the college because I had to
Speaker 1: work to just feed myself. If you got a crib
Speaker 1: and if you could maneuver to college, or you probably
Speaker 1: want to open up a business or something. If you
Speaker 1: can maneuver, you don't got to worry about a bill,
Speaker 1: then it becomes easier for you. But don't get don't
Speaker 1: make me give you an apartment or a fucking car,
Speaker 1: and you're just out here not doing shit. I better
Speaker 1: every sooner time my face SOMEI you better be doing something.
Speaker 1: If you were in bed at twelve pm. Yeah, ain't
Speaker 1: that car under my name? Or it's coming with me?
Speaker 1: You need you need the real world.
Speaker 2: You need you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to and don't go to your daddy.
Speaker 1: Let me go to your daddy. I will take the
Speaker 1: ship away. I don't play that. You ain't gonna be nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're caring with yourself.
Speaker 1: You got two feet, you got two hands, you got
Speaker 1: a brain. You better do some ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I found. I found like I started
Speaker 2: working when I was fourteen. I used to deliver newspaper
Speaker 2: at the time, and then I started working in a
Speaker 2: grocery store. I used to work at the back and
Speaker 2: stack the shelves, pick up all the palettes, bring all
Speaker 2: the goods in work back of house. And then I
Speaker 2: worked and sold jeans at some jeans shop. It's like
Speaker 2: I found working since I was fourteen is what made
Speaker 2: me realize the value of work. And I've been working
Speaker 2: hard ever since. And it's if I didn't start working
Speaker 2: hard at fourteen, I feel like my parents didn't have
Speaker 2: anything to give me either. Yeah, but I feel like
Speaker 2: that work ethic has to start early.
Speaker 1: It do have to start early. And that's why it's
Speaker 1: like like sometimes when my parents, here comes my parents.
Speaker 1: Sometimes my parents, they were getting my nerve sometimes, like
Speaker 1: they be getting my nerve sometimes because like my kids,
Speaker 1: they have school to three pm right and after school,
Speaker 1: I don't care and I don't want you at home
Speaker 1: talking about like I'm a little tough and shit, I
Speaker 1: don't give this is what I'll work hard for. After school,
Speaker 1: my kids four times a week they have tutoring, reading
Speaker 1: man whatever, they have tutoring mandatory in my house. Then
Speaker 1: culture have piano or she got gym class, wave, he
Speaker 1: got sports class, and he still gotta do the tutoring.
Speaker 1: And I don't sleepy, I don't I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear that shit. I don't want to hear that shit.
Speaker 1: It's disciplined. It gotta be in you, and you have
Speaker 1: to be better than me. I want you to be
Speaker 1: better than me. There's things that I cannot do them
Speaker 1: I want my kids to do. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to swim. I would love to swim, but the one
Speaker 1: time I went to a pool in Highbridge, there was
Speaker 1: a crazy fight that broke out. People was getting cut
Speaker 1: left to right. So I couldn't go swimming because I
Speaker 1: had no pool. If I have a pool, you're gonna
Speaker 1: learn how to swim. You're gonna take your swimming classes.
Speaker 1: I'm not really good with my feet, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: take dance classes because if you want to, if you
Speaker 1: ever want to be a superstar, that you're gonna be
Speaker 1: in you. Then you are an answer. I want you
Speaker 1: to be smarter than me, like I could read down,
Speaker 1: but my grandma's not that great. I want you to
Speaker 1: be not perfect because you cannot make your kids perfect,
Speaker 1: and you don't want you to put pressure on your
Speaker 1: kids perfect. But I want you to be a hundred
Speaker 1: times better version than me. And I'm gonna install that
Speaker 1: in you, and you're gonna be mad and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be crying, but you're gonna appreciate that one day because
Speaker 1: I wish. I wish the things that that out put
Speaker 1: on my kids. That there's somebody put in me when
Speaker 1: I was younger. But they couldn't put that in me
Speaker 1: when I was younger because they couldn't afford it, and
Speaker 1: they couldn't really have time to be like Buckley's Buckley's
Speaker 1: Blockles Henessey Hennessey Hennessy because they had to work. I
Speaker 1: have to work, but the class for it. Grab me something, boy,
Speaker 1: grab me something girl. I'm playing with y'all.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Your success is so
Speaker 2: much of who you are and who you breathe. It's
Speaker 2: what you do what makes CARDI be happy.
Speaker 1: It's like little little elements like my kids make me
Speaker 1: very happy. They're just so cute and funny, like it's
Speaker 1: just and they say stupid stuff like it's like they
Speaker 1: say the things that is like, girl, what it's funny
Speaker 1: And it's funny seeing your kids grow and develop a
Speaker 1: little character. And I'm like, when my baby she'd be
Speaker 1: hitting her brother and her sister, it'd be so fun
Speaker 1: of me because it's like a baby and she's there
Speaker 1: and they're just there taking it. So to me, the
Speaker 1: little things like that is funny and makes me happy. Romance,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When I'm in love and
Speaker 1: when we're having a go you know, we're having a
Speaker 1: go week. When you're showing that you care, that makes
Speaker 1: me happy. You know. Actually, when I just saw a
Speaker 1: piece of an interview with Selena Gomez and you when
Speaker 1: she said I might have a fourteen hour day and
Speaker 1: just one phone call and when somebody's there for you,
Speaker 1: it's a good feeling. That's a good feeling as well.
Speaker 1: What else is a good feeling for me? When I'm
Speaker 1: with my cousins, When I'm with my family and we
Speaker 1: were just cracking jokes and it just feels it feels
Speaker 1: like it feels like childhood. It makes me happy. Music
Speaker 1: makes me very happy. I love music. Where me and
Speaker 1: my team we plan something, we put in so much
Speaker 1: work and it goes good. That makes me happy. That
Speaker 1: makes me happy, the team happy, and it motivates me
Speaker 1: and then motivates my team and it's just like we
Speaker 1: did it. So stuff like that, stuff like that makes
Speaker 1: me happy. Seeing all the work that you do and
Speaker 1: the time that you put, the process, the progress that
Speaker 1: you put, and it's like it hits, it's successful. That
Speaker 1: makes me really happy, Like it's like, oh, thank God,
Speaker 1: thank you Jesus. It makes you want to keep going.
Speaker 2: Just say that's a good list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good list.
Speaker 2: I like it so connection. It's all real. It's human,
Speaker 2: it's love, it's family, it's friends, it's intimacy, it's it's
Speaker 2: it's all the it's all. It is all the most
Speaker 2: beautiful things that we're all looking for. How do you
Speaker 2: see love now? Like, how do you define love?
Speaker 1: Effort? It's not going to always be perfect. Effort is
Speaker 1: like a lot to me. It means a lot to me,
Speaker 1: like calling me, studying me personality as well. I love
Speaker 1: me a joke, I love me a you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like if you, if I if I come
Speaker 1: to you and I'm in tears, when was the last
Speaker 1: week I saw I saw my low boyfriend. I saw
Speaker 1: my boyfriend and I was in tears. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's so much pressure on me, Like, it's so much
Speaker 1: pressure on me, and just one little joke like my tears.
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot the joke, but it was so
Speaker 1: funny and like it's not coming out of my nose
Speaker 1: and it's like men laught. It just made me feel good,
Speaker 1: and it's it's like, you know what things are going.
Speaker 2: To be, Okay, someone you can, someone you can, someone
Speaker 2: who can make you laugh, cry, and someone who can
Speaker 2: be there for you when you're crying. Real heart tis Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like that, and I I like what you said
Speaker 2: study you. Yeah that was really interesting. Now I've never
Speaker 2: heard that before, but I like it. The idea that
Speaker 2: if someone loves you, they study you. What is what
Speaker 2: does that mean to you? Tell me about that. I
Speaker 2: like that one a lot.
Speaker 1: Certain things are just the obvious, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like certain things is like are you really studying me?
Speaker 1: Or is just the obvious? Like for example, if you
Speaker 1: get me a purse, if you get me a Berken
Speaker 1: or a Kelly, right, it makes me happy, of course,
Speaker 1: like who don't which which women don't bag make them happy?
Speaker 1: But you know that that's what I like. So it's
Speaker 1: not like you study it, it's that you see it
Speaker 1: on my page. But like when you do things that
Speaker 1: you don't normally do, but you're doing it because you
Speaker 1: heard me talk about this like like when you run
Speaker 1: a castle and I know you don't want to be
Speaker 1: in this old dass castle that you literally gotta go
Speaker 1: up and down the stairs just so you could pee,
Speaker 1: and it's hot and there's no air conditioner. When you
Speaker 1: rent a castle out just so you could just because
Speaker 1: you you keep saying like I can't wait, I can't
Speaker 1: wait to have a day off in Paris so I
Speaker 1: could go to Versailles. I'm obsessed with castles. I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with kings. I'm obsessed with queens. And it's like you
Speaker 1: listen to that and you like, do your restu make
Speaker 1: it happen. It's like it's like little things like that.
Speaker 2: Clues.
Speaker 1: It's not even like leaving clothes. It's just like me.
Speaker 1: It's me talking. It's like it means stuff to me
Speaker 1: and stuff like that when you get to know my
Speaker 1: personality too and get to study me, okay, because I'm
Speaker 1: I think I'm a hard person to figure out. Some
Speaker 1: people just see me and think certain things until you
Speaker 1: really get to figure me out and crack me so
Speaker 1: I might give you what I want to give you.
Speaker 1: You haven't cracked me.
Speaker 2: Yet, Will anyone ever crack you? Is it possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, little by little, I open up and I show
Speaker 1: more of myself, my real self.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been it's been seven years since you released
Speaker 2: new music, and you've talked to me about releasing it.
Speaker 2: The hard work that went into it, the journey that
Speaker 2: got you there, Why you waited? What finally made you
Speaker 2: feel confident that you had the right piece of work?
Speaker 2: What did you put into it? How did you know
Speaker 2: that now was the right time and the work was ready?
Speaker 1: Because it feels good, it feels good, Like it's like this,
Speaker 1: I feel like people are missing this. It feels good.
Speaker 1: I feel good. I feel confident about it. I feel
Speaker 1: very confident about it, to be honest with you, So
Speaker 1: that that's why. That's why I'm like, it's time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where where did the name? Am? I? The drama?
Speaker 2: What inspired that? What's what's the subtext? What's the hidden
Speaker 2: meanings behind it?
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep saying when I was a
Speaker 1: little girl, but it's funny, Like it's like.
Speaker 2: Say it, I love it. I love knowing that you
Speaker 2: manifested this. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: No, because it's like, ever since I was a little girl,
Speaker 1: I always get in trouble and it don't really be me.
Speaker 1: Like it's like if we having a sleepover, me and
Speaker 1: my cousins, I would be the one that the aunt
Speaker 1: is pulling their ears because it's like, yeah, I know
Speaker 1: this was your idea, but even was, it wasn't even
Speaker 1: my idea. Sometimes when I used to go to school
Speaker 1: and I used to fight, my mom used to be like,
Speaker 1: then I tell you to avoid the fight, and it's like, Mom,
Speaker 1: I swear to God, it is not me. It's these girls.
Speaker 1: They keep trying me. That's why I keep getting into fights.
Speaker 1: And when I was in school too, like it's like
Speaker 1: when I do get in trouble just because I'm being
Speaker 1: mischie it's just like like my friend's mom used to
Speaker 1: be like, it's because of her, it's because of it's
Speaker 1: because of Beccles. I know it's her, and it's like
Speaker 1: it don't really be me. It really don't be me.
Speaker 1: And that's just how it is for my life. Like
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, I'm always in a scandal, I'm always
Speaker 1: in some bullshit. I'm always in some beef, and it's
Speaker 1: like no matter how much I avoid it, it comes
Speaker 1: to me. Am I the fucking drama isn't me. Jesus
Speaker 1: isn't me, no matter how much I avoid it, no
Speaker 1: matter how much I think I'm in a bubble, And
Speaker 1: it's like, Nope, that bubble is always gonna pop. Something's
Speaker 1: always gonna find you.
Speaker 2: Girl.
Speaker 1: But that's why I like am I the drama? Why
Speaker 1: am I always in some ship? Whether it's good or bad?
Speaker 1: Why am I always in some ship?
Speaker 2: What's the answer?
Speaker 1: Am I? That's the that's the answer is to the
Speaker 1: question am I? Am I? Only one person can answer that,
Speaker 1: and that's Jesus, Because God, Why I'm always in some ship?
Speaker 1: When is the boat gonna start smooth sailing? Why are
Speaker 1: we always in the ocean in the middle of the
Speaker 1: ocean and the roughest we in the We're in the
Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean all the time.
Speaker 2: I love that. It's a great question. It's a great question,
Speaker 2: lends up for a great album. It's it's it's such
Speaker 2: a great name. It's such a great such a great energy.
Speaker 2: Even just hearing you talk about it is such a
Speaker 2: great vibe. What's the I mean, how does it feel
Speaker 2: when that drama gets televised and then it's all over TikTok?
Speaker 2: How does that feel?
Speaker 1: Yep? Sometimes it's girl. Sometimes it's bad.
Speaker 2: You always show up looking fabulous, But I'm like, how
Speaker 2: does that feel when, like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, well, I try to come and here having eyes
Speaker 1: like you, but one of one of the contacts wasn't cooperating,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I'm not taking this other contact off.
Speaker 2: So that's why we have.
Speaker 1: The and that's why we got three blue eyes and
Speaker 1: on set.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I love it. So
Speaker 2: how does it feel when when your drama is televised, Like,
Speaker 2: when that is televised, how does that feel?
Speaker 1: It just feels Sometimes it feels okay because there's gonna
Speaker 1: be people that's gonna cheer for you. And sometimes it's
Speaker 1: gonna be very overwhelming, like and very stressful, very annoying.
Speaker 1: And then it's like, unlike other celebrities, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of people be wanting me to be like certain
Speaker 1: celebrities and stuff like that, Like they just want me
Speaker 1: to be like the type of person that just don't respond,
Speaker 1: they don't tell my feelings. And they were thinking that
Speaker 1: some of these celebrities like the perfect which there are amazing,
Speaker 1: but don't think they're not going through what I'm going through.
Speaker 1: Don't think they don't feel like what the pressure they
Speaker 1: that I go through. Don't think they're not saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate you mother, because what you think you are
Speaker 1: to tell me that I'm this? This who if you
Speaker 1: take you this? And I'm just the person that tells it.
Speaker 1: So it's a blessing and occurs because sometimes I feel
Speaker 1: like I speak for them. And that's why when a
Speaker 1: lot of celebrities see me, they be like, yo, You'll
Speaker 1: be saying what I want to say. But then sometimes
Speaker 1: like a curse because sometimes people be like it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're the only one that do that. You're the only
Speaker 1: one to do that. And it's like, well, I'll be
Speaker 1: the one that do that. I can't do it all
Speaker 1: the time though, because then people gonna think I'm just crazy,
Speaker 1: but I'll be the one to do that. Y'all need
Speaker 1: to leave sing people alone. Y'all think because that celebrity,
Speaker 1: we make a little money and we make a little
Speaker 1: this like it's that bitch. I feel it's too hope,
Speaker 1: I ain't no chop liver h So maybe that's what
Speaker 1: I sometimes like the punching bags and sometimes people be like,
Speaker 1: you need to stop doing that. You need to stop
Speaker 1: being this, you need you need to be more like them,
Speaker 1: and it's like they feel the same way I feel too.
Speaker 1: They want to tell these people, yea, you are your
Speaker 1: mom here, your dad and your whole bloodline. You're talking
Speaker 1: on me. You trust me. They want to say that.
Speaker 1: They want to say that.
Speaker 2: I think everyone does.
Speaker 1: But I'll be the one to say it. But that's
Speaker 1: because sometimes it do feel good to say it. Thank you,
Speaker 1: bitch you. I'll be the one now all the time,
Speaker 1: but I'll be the one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I could see that from all the clips
Speaker 2: that I've seen, Like you're always yourself, Like you're never
Speaker 2: not yourself wherever you are, the climb, the looks, the fashion,
Speaker 2: the wigs, the everything that comes out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: It's like you're never uh, you're never filtering yourself no
Speaker 2: matter the environment. You're trust ah you do.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like the who the am? I? Who
Speaker 1: have I become? Because I used to have no filter?
Speaker 1: Now it's just like I'll be like all.
Speaker 2: But still, though, where do you feelter yourself? If you
Speaker 2: ever do? Where do you feel to yourself?
Speaker 1: This mouth? I could be a piranha?
Speaker 2: What are we today at? Shock? No? Today's no today?
Speaker 2: I will goldfish Okay today fish.
Speaker 1: I said nothing bad today. Today'd be really nice today.
Speaker 2: You have been wonderful.
Speaker 1: But it's like sometimes I'll be seeing people and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, I could get really nasty. This all facts.
Speaker 1: I could get really nasty.
Speaker 2: You hold back sometimes I hold back.
Speaker 1: So much, hold I hold back so much, so much science.
Speaker 1: I really you know what I really did change the life.
Speaker 1: I don't know what changed me. Maybe maybe the age,
Speaker 1: maybe the kids, maybe life.
Speaker 2: You softened up a bit.
Speaker 1: I always been soft, but I could. I could really
Speaker 1: give it to you and I watched up, but I
Speaker 1: stopped this work?
Speaker 2: Is it? The age is the kids? Which one is?
Speaker 2: All of them?
Speaker 1: All of their birth is a combination? Age? Really wise
Speaker 1: in you? Why isn't you? And make you afraid?
Speaker 2: Yeah, got more to lose that. I think that plays
Speaker 2: a big part. When you're young and you're dreaming and
Speaker 2: you want all these things, no one ever tells you
Speaker 2: the cost that it comes at, Yeah, and how much
Speaker 2: it tests you and brings all sorts of other challenges
Speaker 2: into your life. Yeah. Yeah, You've talked about how money
Speaker 2: doesn't fix every thing and success doesn't solve everything, and
Speaker 2: it almost feels like when you don't have those things
Speaker 2: you think it will, yeah, and then when you get it,
Speaker 2: you realize, oh wait, there's all this other stuff that
Speaker 2: we haven't figured out yet. What is something that you're
Speaker 2: still trying to figure out learn solve in your own life?
Speaker 2: What's the part of your life you're like working on,
Speaker 2: dreaming and visioning, imagining to be better and different?
Speaker 1: I mean life in general, all of it, all of it.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, life just doesn't get I
Speaker 1: wonder when life is going to do start getting easier
Speaker 1: because life is just hard no matter if you have
Speaker 1: money or not. You got problems when you're poor, you
Speaker 1: got problems when you're rich. He's always just trying to
Speaker 1: figure every single day. I feel like people is just
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, trying to figure themselves out,
Speaker 1: trying to figure life out. And it just will never stop.
Speaker 1: It will never stop. I think one would do will
Speaker 1: stop when you're sixty. But even when you're sixty, you're
Speaker 1: gonna start having other problems, like back problems, and it's
Speaker 1: like another thing, another problem do you got to figure out?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's like it's just
Speaker 1: will never stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The older you get, the more people you lose more
Speaker 1: kids who have the more things you have to worry about,
Speaker 1: the more money you have, the more you have to
Speaker 1: learn about managing. You have a partner or you don't
Speaker 1: have a partner. You got to figure out how you
Speaker 1: if you want to how you want to deal with
Speaker 1: being alone when you have a partner. It's like how
Speaker 1: you got to figure out how to be the peace
Speaker 1: and everything? And I really don't want people thinking neither
Speaker 1: that is like just because you have money, like it's
Speaker 1: that you live the easy life. Everybody that they have money,
Speaker 1: that are successful, that are good at what they do.
Speaker 1: If you notice a pattern, they work their asses off.
Speaker 1: Thing that Beyonce gotta can vote and imagine and this
Speaker 1: and that because she's just Beyonce. No, she worked her
Speaker 1: ass off. She's one of the most hardest people ever.
Speaker 1: Why people cannot get to her level? White people cannot
Speaker 1: this and that because they just she just have an
Speaker 1: insane work ethic, insane time. And my partner he works
Speaker 1: up every day at five thirty six am and leave
Speaker 1: work at seven pm. And then you got people that
Speaker 1: hate on him and it's like, well, why he's so
Speaker 1: good because he works hard? Why am i here after
Speaker 1: seven years because I'm every day, every day, working every day.
Speaker 1: What we're doing next? Hello, what y'all doing? Wake up?
Speaker 1: I got a sad and plan. I just I just
Speaker 1: thought of something. I just had a dream of something.
Speaker 1: We gotta make it happen. And working hard. You could
Speaker 1: stay working hard. And it sounds like working hard, but
Speaker 1: it's like it's hours and hours and hours. It's time
Speaker 1: in his body's brain. I'm exhausted. I'm really exhausted right now.
Speaker 1: Back hurt, but her, I'm sleepy as ship. I got
Speaker 1: a headache on the right side of my head when
Speaker 1: I'm working. After this, I got to do a promo
Speaker 1: shoot and then I go into the studio and then tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I gotta do something else every single day, every single day,
Speaker 1: every single day. If you want it, you gotta do it.
Speaker 1: No complain, no crying.
Speaker 2: Ship. In this conversation, you've talked about Jesus, you talked
Speaker 2: about the devil. Do you talk to God in law?
Speaker 2: Do you pray every day every day?
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a very deep spiritual connection
Speaker 1: with God. And it's not even like about praying, it's
Speaker 1: like talking. Like even when I talk to God, I
Speaker 1: talk to him, just like I'm talking to you, I'll
Speaker 1: be cursing, crying because people be like, oh, cursing is bad.
Speaker 1: But it's like God knows, God knows, God knows who
Speaker 1: I am. God knows, God knows how I be. Like.
Speaker 1: It's like it's almost like I'm talking to a friend,
Speaker 1: and I really do believe in my weird mind, in
Speaker 1: my weird universe that I made, like I have, I
Speaker 1: have angels. I really do believe that God gave me
Speaker 1: angels and I believe in them. I feel like God
Speaker 1: is here, and I feel like you got your angels here,
Speaker 1: then you got your other religions here. I believe in
Speaker 1: God so much it's not even funny. And you know
Speaker 1: some people might not believe in God. But it's like,
Speaker 1: don't try. Like it's like, I'm not gonna convince nobody
Speaker 1: to believe in what I believe in. But if it,
Speaker 1: how you expect me not to believe on the person
Speaker 1: that I've been praying to my whole life and gave
Speaker 1: me what I wanted.
Speaker 2: That little girl was talking to God in that dream.
Speaker 1: Always all the time. It's like the imaginary friend, the
Speaker 1: voice in your head. Do you think it's your friend,
Speaker 1: do you think it's your your your voice, that that's
Speaker 1: just was That was just you talking to God the
Speaker 1: whole time. That was just you talking to God the
Speaker 1: whole time. I love him. I believe in him. I
Speaker 1: always tell this to somebody like it's like the most,
Speaker 1: the most, the most I could give you, the most
Speaker 1: powerful thing that could give you is me praying on you.
Speaker 1: If I pray on you for you, it's because I
Speaker 1: love you. It's the most powerfulest thing. And I do
Speaker 1: feel like when you pray together, miracles happen. I love him.
Speaker 1: I love you so much. Why do you love me
Speaker 1: so much? Why do you love you already? I'm like
Speaker 1: one of your favorite kids. Tell them Jesus Lord, tell
Speaker 1: these people I'm one of your favorites, a lot of them.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful, Cardy. You've been so so generous with your time,
Speaker 2: your energy, your heart. I really felt, you know, this
Speaker 2: surpassed every one of my expectations that I had of
Speaker 2: meeting you and getting to interview. I knew, I knew
Speaker 2: there was so much spirit. I knew there was some soul.
Speaker 2: I knew there was there was just this energy inside
Speaker 2: that that I'm really grateful you let share today and
Speaker 2: people get to know you a bit more deeply. We
Speaker 2: we end every episode with the final five. These questions
Speaker 2: have to be answered in one word, one sentence maximum.
Speaker 2: So CARDI B. These are your final five.
Speaker 1: You know I talk a lot. You can you can
Speaker 1: answer one word.
Speaker 2: I'm giving you permission you can, all right? So question
Speaker 2: number one we asked these every guest who's been on
Speaker 2: the show, what is the best advice you've ever heard
Speaker 2: or received?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to go with one advice that I
Speaker 1: heard today. No, I didn't heard it today, I heard
Speaker 1: it yesterday. I asked the difficult questions. The difficult questions
Speaker 1: make the relationship stronger. It could break it, it could
Speaker 1: make it, but you still have an understanding. If you
Speaker 1: become that understanding, then yeah, it might become stronger.
Speaker 2: You said it better. You said it better. Whoever said it?
Speaker 2: You said it better? Question number two, what is the
Speaker 2: worst advice you've ever heard or received?
Speaker 1: I think you've heard a lot sometimes when somebody told
Speaker 1: me to wear a certain outfit, or when somebody told
Speaker 1: me to drop a certain songs. You never know. Go
Speaker 1: from here to that.
Speaker 2: Question number three. Finish the sentence. One thing I'll never
Speaker 2: apologize for.
Speaker 1: Is may not vain and nain and mate. My mouth. Well,
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm apologizing for my mouth. Sometimes I might maybe
Speaker 1: I'm a little to war. I don't know. I'll apologize
Speaker 1: for my mouth sometimes, but not all the time.
Speaker 2: Question number four, what's something that you used to value
Speaker 2: that you don't value anymore.
Speaker 1: I happen to have, like the streets, I valuate a
Speaker 1: lot and I don't. I valuate because it made me
Speaker 1: and it gave me a certain mentality. But I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to advise, advise dad too, people that I love,
Speaker 1: people that I care, or to young kids, two young boys,
Speaker 1: to young girls, because it don't always lead you to
Speaker 1: where you think it's going to lead you. It's very grimy.
Speaker 1: Don't love you back ever.
Speaker 2: And fifth and final question we asked just every guest
Speaker 2: has been on the show, if you could create one
Speaker 2: law that ever in the world had to follow, what
Speaker 2: would it be if I was law?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I got to come back to that.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact. If you hurt children, you gotta get
Speaker 1: what's that thing when they clip you, cash you size,
Speaker 1: whatever it is called, you just got to be clipped.
Speaker 1: And if you're a woman, they need to burn it
Speaker 1: if you hurt kids.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that should be a mandatory thing all over the world. Wow,
Speaker 1: because kids are so precious. They're so precious, they so innocent.
Speaker 1: Well some of them, some of them are kind of evil.
Speaker 1: They're wont with the devils, you see, Doug Mry. Some
Speaker 1: of them was like, who was born to the who
Speaker 1: was born to your dob Jesus, Jesus upon.
Speaker 2: Your chair CARDI b everyone. The album is called am
Speaker 2: I the Drama. I'm so excited for everyone to hear it.
Speaker 2: Love your energy, love your spirits. So grateful to spend
Speaker 2: this time together and all the best. God bless and
Speaker 2: I hope that you continue to succeed and win at
Speaker 2: life and keep being the energy and forced that you are.
Speaker 2: So thank you, so much, thank you, thank you. If
Speaker 2: you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode with
Speaker 2: Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how to
Speaker 2: speak to yourself with more compassion.
Speaker 1: My fears are only going to continue to show me
Speaker 1: what I'm capable of. The more that I face my fears,
Speaker 1: the more that I feel I'm gaining strength, I'm gaining wisdom,
Speaker 1: and I just want to keep doing that,