1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always 3 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in previously on the origins of 4 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: pink lemonade. Uh, you know, we all have to do 5 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: the whole lost voice, but we learned a lot of stuff. 6 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Lemonade is an ancient, ancient drink that was originally called 7 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: which I think is a cooler name than just lemonade. Yep, 8 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: And it's also fun to like mispronounce in nineteen different ways. 9 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: I think you got the spot on pronunciation. But here 10 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: join us already in progress where you can hear me 11 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: waffle or flounder or any other euphemism for screwing up 12 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: uh pronunciations. You're doing great, Thanks Budden clown pants. Lemonade 13 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: Where are we talking about? It all goes back to 14 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: a book by a guy named Harvey W. Root, written 15 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty one. The book has a long title, 16 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: which wasn't unusual for books at that time, the ways 17 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: of the circus being the Memories and Adventures of George 18 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Conklin Tame of Lions, So as you can imagine, Lemonade 19 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Stories is kind of an aside here that's right. And 20 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: this guy, George Conklin Tamer of Lions, as that amazingly 21 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: convoluted book title um implies, he actually had a brother 22 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: as well. His brother's name was Pete, and he was 23 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: sort of like a junior circus guy. Um, he was 24 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: running the concessions, but also was a tumbler on the side. Uh. 25 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: And this was in Jerry Mabel's Traveling Circus. He was 26 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: a well known promoter at the time as well. And um, 27 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: so like a tumbler would be sort of like a 28 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: second tier act, but a clown maybe not the same 29 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: as a lion tamer, but definitely give you like a 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: bump and pay. You want to get clown pay. If 31 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: you were asked to be a clown, you wouldn't do 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: that for nothing. And um, he was asked to become 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: a clown because he already had the tumbling skills, clearly 34 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: the comedic timing uh. And he was asked to kind 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: of like upgrade his act and put on the clown 36 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: shoes and the clown makeup and the clown tights. But 37 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't offered the corresponding pay. So Pete said, no, 38 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: absolutely not. He had he had his dignity, He had 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: his standards, and so he just continued selling his own 40 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: lemonade as he followed the circus around like a scavenger 41 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: following soldiers at war. And I love the idea of 42 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: like I've done the work of a cloud. I demand 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: the clowns pay, Demand a clowns pay. It's true. I 44 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: mean it's hard work. Yeah, being a clown you definitely 45 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: have to have have some skills. Not just anyone can 46 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: put on the dawn the clown makeup. You gotta have 47 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: the chops. So he so, Ben, did you give the 48 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: sense that he was he like unofficial? Was he just 49 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: sort of like a hanger on? Yeah? He was going like, um, 50 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: it's similar to what we see happen with maybe religious 51 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: pilgrimages of yesteryear or with traveling armies. There will be 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: people who attached themselves to that large traveling group of people, 53 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: and they can kind of swim in their wake, you 54 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's what Pete is doing. 55 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: He officially leaves the circus, but does it really leave 56 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: the circus. It's like he he leaves the circus and 57 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: walks a couple of miles away and then just starts 58 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: following behind them, and whenever they're in town, he's also 59 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: in town selling lemonade to people. So he just kind 60 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: of goes independent and everything's going well until one day 61 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: he runs out of water at the worst time. There's 62 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: a line. More and more people are coming to get 63 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: some of Pete's famous lemonade or whatever he called it, 64 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: and so he calls on his old clown colleagues. He 65 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: burst into a tenth and he sees his but one 66 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: of his old clowning friends ringing out his tights into 67 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: a bucket of water. Yeah, and the tights had a 68 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: cheap die. Uh, this is just the one version of 69 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: the story, right, Uh, the tights were cheaply died, and 70 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: so they left the water with a pinkish red hue. 71 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: But not that didn't stop peet Man. He grabbed that 72 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: clown pants bucket and he started selling the crowd um 73 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: strawberry lemonade. Uh yeah, And I mean, you know, like 74 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: by the time he sweetened the pot of of you know, 75 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: wrung out circus juice, Clowns sweat a lot. You know, 76 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, clowns sweat a lot. It's hard work, 77 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: it's not good. So I'm sorry, I had to coin 78 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: the term wrung out circus juice. But it is what 79 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: it is. I said what I said, and you can't 80 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: put it. You can't. I won't take it back. Um. 81 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, by the time he sweetened it with sugar, 82 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: I would presume that maybe added a little more than usual. Um. 83 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: But it people didn't seem to notice. And it did 84 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: take on this charming pink hue. Uh. And it and 85 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: not only do they not notice, just like in the 86 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: other version of the story with the red hots, it 87 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: seemed to sell like gangbusters. Yeah, apparently sales doubled on 88 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: the spot and according to Route, soon no self respecting 89 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: circus would be without the novelty of pink lemonade. There 90 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: are other versions of this theme. There's one that he found, uh, 91 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: the pink tights of a female horse rider and took 92 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: those and sold the water that she was washing the 93 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: tights in his fine strawberry lemonade. Uh. And then there's 94 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: another story that's pretty much the same thing with a 95 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: different guy, a guy named William Henry Griffith who was 96 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: working at one of the largest circuses in the US. 97 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: Also in this one, and this is a little bit 98 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: of a bull to final destination. For me, there were 99 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: some pink tights that were blown from a clothes line 100 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: into this waiting vat of water, which just seems like 101 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: the odds against that are pretty high. And so you 102 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: hear these variations. But after after all the theories we've 103 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: given you, which which circus theory is most plausible? This 104 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: is the best title book title I think here, uh, 105 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: other than A Clown's Pay, which is a historical anthology. 106 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to write a series of linked stories anyway. 107 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Josh Chetwynd wrote a book called How the Hot Dog 108 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: Got Its Bun accidental discoveries and unexpected inspirations that shape 109 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: the way we eat and drink. And he has some 110 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: draft picks, right he decided one is more plausible than 111 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: the others. Yeah, chetwyn says in his book, no one 112 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: really knows which story is accurate. But of course the 113 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: timing of Conklin's tail gives that yarn the advantage. Um 114 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: because the cinnamon candy story was in the nineteen twelve 115 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: edition of the New York Times, and that article was 116 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: written after a lot who was the gentleman involved in 117 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: that story. The concessionsman Um had passed away, and it 118 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: claims that he invented the drink as a teenager, which 119 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: would which would make it around eighteen sevent eighteen seventy three, 120 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: twenty years after conklind story with the clown tits the 121 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: clown pants. So um and like we said, then, I 122 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: don't feel like I don't know it was a novelty. 123 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Perhaps the cinnamon flavor wouldn't have been as much of 124 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: a red flag as you or I might think, but 125 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: it still doesn't quite ring true. Chetwyn in his book 126 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: points out that, uh, both of the stories have when 127 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: we've we've mentioned this along the way, have these kind 128 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: of like incredulous sort of the stuff of legends kind 129 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: of like rings to them. Um. Not to say that 130 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: necessarily makes them untrue, but it does feel like a 131 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: game of historical telephone. Both of these stories the thing 132 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: like the details lining up just right to yield the 133 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: given result and the rest was history. As they say. Um, 134 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: so yeah, both of those stories definitely uh continue to 135 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: be a part of the kind of oral history of 136 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: pink lemonade. But the New York Post uh in in 137 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: their obituary of a lot Um who you know, who 138 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: is the cinnamon candy. Man Um this to say, referencing 139 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: his particular version of the legend uh quote, the man 140 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: who invented pink lemonade has crossed the river, where it 141 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: may be hoped there are no pure food advocates to 142 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: harass him for the sins committed in his name, and 143 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: we know that it's it's true. However, this stuff happened, 144 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: whether cinnamon whether cloud pants, because someone didn't get a 145 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: clown's pay. However, this came about, pink lemonade became incredibly popular. 146 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: By we are seeing pink lemonade recipes in print, but 147 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: to our earlier points, they are calling for things like 148 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: half a cup of strawberries, raspberries, cranberry juice, etcetera, in 149 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: place of you know, clown pants, water and cinnamon candies. 150 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: And now, of course you see a ton of other 151 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: variations upon that theme. But the bulk of pink lemonade 152 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: is just pink and color alone. The tend to actually 153 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: comes from concentrated grape juice or grape extract. And this 154 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: gets to the science question was setting up earlier. If 155 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: the taste of pink lemonade and the taste of regular lemonade, 156 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: if they're exactly the same. Why is pink lemonade still 157 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: so popular? Uh? The author of this sony An article 158 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: reached out to Sally Augustine, who was an environmental psychologists 159 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: focusing on the way things like shape and colors influence 160 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: our lives, and she said, the color of pink lemonade 161 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: is relaxing. It's not very saturated, it's relatively bright. Traditional 162 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: lemonade has no real color. And then this is weird 163 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: because it takes us to study that finds people tend 164 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: to associate the colors red and pink with sweetness and 165 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: yellow and green or associated with sourness. So the color 166 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: of it may affect people's experience tasting it. We we 167 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: know this happens. The science is pretty compelling. There. Also, 168 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: maybe is why blue or purple ketchup never caught on, 169 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: now that I think about it, you guys, remember that 170 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: for a hot minute there were different colors to catch up? 171 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: Oh god, no, really, there's a green one too that 172 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: was really nasty looking. Yeah, that is awful. People like 173 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: to catch up ready. That's a really good point, Ben, 174 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: But it it's also interesting, like I've always kind of 175 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: been a fan of like oddly colored drinks like gatorade 176 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: and all that. And I don't know why like or 177 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: like you know, bright neon blue popsicles and the like. 178 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: And I will say, in my very kitchen cabinet right now, 179 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,359 Speaker 1: I have a thing of powdered crystal light pink lemonade 180 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: that absolutely tastes exactly the same as the regular yellow lemonade. 181 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: It's just pink, and I I don't know why, but 182 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: I like it. There's something about the pinkness of it 183 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: that that that does it for me. Because they absolutely 184 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: have raspberry flavored ones, they have a cranberry one. They 185 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: have like, you know, mixes of them, cran raz you know, 186 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: whatever you want. But I, for some reason, I'm gravitating 187 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: towards the pink one. It's it's just that it's one 188 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: of my weakness as fellas, and so you know, we 189 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: have we have one tangent we have to address before 190 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: we call it a day here. And that is the 191 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: origin of the phrase, when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. 192 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: Apparently it came about from a nineteen fifty obituary for 193 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: a man named Marshall Pinckney Wilder, who was an actor, 194 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: a writer, humorist, despite his chronic health problems and medical conditions. 195 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: The original version of the phrase read this of Wilder. 196 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: They said he picked up the lemons that fate had 197 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: sent him and started a lemonade stand. Uh. And people 198 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: picked up the phrase and started styling on it for 199 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: a while. You'll still hear it used today, right, But 200 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, not as not as often. You know, 201 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: it's funny. They're like I, I I think lemons have a 202 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: lot of uses, and we did, I believe we did 203 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: an episode about how there's this perception that lemons helped 204 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: London deal with the plague because lemons were sort of 205 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: an anti pestilent kind of agent. They would keep those 206 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: plague rats at bay Um. And then also I believe 207 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: there's something you know, there's this notion that because they 208 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: had these vitamins that they would make you like healthier 209 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. So lemons have played a really interesting role 210 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: in history. And I love using the zest of lemons 211 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: and pasta dishes and cooking and um, it's a nice 212 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: squeeze of lemon, you know, onto a dish. You definitely 213 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: want to make sure you do the squeeze later in 214 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: the cooking process or the flavor just kind of gets 215 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: cooked out of it. But the zest, my friends, that'll 216 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: that I'll get to that lemony flavor. I use it, Yeah, 217 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: I use them. I use them pretty frequently with a 218 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: lot of the seafood experiments I do. I made a 219 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: jar of preserved lemons from my recipe and that was 220 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: pretty cool. But it took a while to get through them, 221 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: like you know, that's it's the thing, like when you 222 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: can vegetables. Anyway, story for another day. That's our show 223 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: we do. So hope you enjoyed it and shout out 224 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: to anybody sipping pink lemonade while listening to this bizarre tail. Also, 225 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: some of us in the crowd may be wondering what's 226 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: really up with chocolate milk, because there are rumors about 227 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: that stuff too. We'll answer them in a future episode. Meantime. 228 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: Thanks so much to super producer Casey Pegra, huge thanks 229 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: to Alex Williams, who composed are him I'm back? Yes, yes, yeah. 230 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: I also watched Win Harry met Sally just before this. 231 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: I was I think it's no coincidence that the Quister 232 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: makes his his return on one of the grossest episodes 233 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: we've done in recent memory. What did you talk about? 234 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: We talked about don't care? Nice nice, so I assumed. Then, 235 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland a k the quister that the rules of 236 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: engagement remain the same you old so and so oh 237 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: as always, my friends, I shall present to you a 238 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: trio of scenarios, whereupon you will have to guess which 239 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: one is true, or rather which one I made up seats. 240 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: I even forget, it's been so long. I don't even 241 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: remember my own game anymore. Oh, by the way, I 242 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: welcome to the most cringeworthy segment in all the podcasting etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 243 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: We're here for it, man, I mean, I guess, but 244 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: I gotta say, Jonathan, you've lost your edge a little bit. 245 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: I thought you you used to do your scenarios sort 246 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: of themed around the content of the episode. Is that 247 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: no longer the case? So no, it's since totally the case. 248 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: I just don't know what the hell you guys are 249 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: recording anymore. It's hard to the zoom bombing thing. I 250 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: don't get to listen in as much. It's a it's 251 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: a lot of me typing in letters and numbers and 252 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: then just hitting intern hoping that I let me tell 253 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: you daily zygeist does not like me. But now that 254 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: I managed to be able to actually get into this one, 255 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: I figured i'd go ahead and do one. I've already prepared, 256 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: and let's just say I too too. Choose you? Okay, 257 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: all right, okay, uh, I think I see where you're 258 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: going with this. You're you're gonna lay out some scenarios. 259 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: We've gotta pick which one you made up. I got 260 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: a time limit, all right, so I think we can 261 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: kick the rust off the tires here. Let's keep going. 262 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: You could ask me questions in this one, but you know, 263 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: in order to ask me a question, you of course 264 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: have to preface it with a phrase. In this case, 265 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: it's uh, come on, ride the train to cho ride it, 266 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: and then I will call upon you and you may 267 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: ask you a question. Well guess what the theme is. 268 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: I've been very subtle about it. All right. Here are 269 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: your three scenarios. Of course, I have put them in 270 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: order chronological. Something spooky was going down in Erie, Pennsylvania 271 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: in eighteen fifty three. The railroad tracks through town kept 272 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: getting destroy PoID. Except this wasn't a mystery. The town's 273 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: own mayor called on citizens to tear up the tracks. 274 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: When a railroad company tried to standardize rail gauges across 275 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: the city, the US government had to send federal officials 276 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: to Erie to tell them to knock that crap off. 277 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: Scenario two. In the eighteen eighties, the Wholeman Locomotive Company 278 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania produced a trade in which the trains 279 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: wheels were on top of other wheels, which were on 280 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: top of other wheels. It was supposedly to be an 281 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: engineering marvel to facilitate faster speeds. It was in fact, 282 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: all part of a scheme to scam investors out of money, 283 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: with no basis in mechanical engineering. It did work, sort of, 284 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: but was only built for the con Scenario three. In 285 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties, the M four nineties seven Black Beetle 286 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: experimental train didn't use a steam engine or electricity for locomotion. 287 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: It ran on jet engines that came from a B 288 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: thirty six bomber. It go fast, too fast, because in 289 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, during a test run in Yes, Pennsylvania, 290 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: the train skipped the tracks, traveled another two hundred yards 291 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: and came to a grinding halt. Miraculously, the engineers on 292 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: board only suffered serious but not critical injuries. Begin come 293 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: on right the trainin yeah, alright, alright, Mr Bolan, that's 294 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: good enough. Okay, sorry, I'm not gonna do the whole song, 295 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: but okay, could you could you reiterate some of the 296 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: key points of scenario one? Scenario one? Yes, So there 297 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: was a move to standardized railroad tracks throughout Erie, Pennsylvania. 298 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: A railroad company wanted to make all the tracks the 299 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: same gauge, and the mayor of the town objected to 300 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: this and called upon citizens to rip up the tracks, 301 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: which they did for several months until federal officials sit, stop. 302 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: That sounds like the kind of horrible thing people would do, 303 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: they know, they if we fear change, even if it's 304 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: something as simple as standardization of railroad gauges. What do 305 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: you think then? Yeah, I I think that the thing 306 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: is that I think scenario three it has the ring 307 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: of truth from my car stuff days. But I just 308 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact year because Jonathan, you said 309 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, right, did indeed say nineteen sixty three? 310 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Mr Berlin, I will say that I would not just 311 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: I would not just fudge a year. No, we know, 312 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: we know we're we're aware of your of your sinister tricks. 313 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: What about so scenario B wheels upon wheels, These are 314 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: like what double decker wheels are, like an upper wheel 315 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: and a lower wheel, like on a roller coaster track? 316 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: Can you kind of explain? Come on and ride that train, 317 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: it's the chew chew, Come on ride it? Who woos? Mr? Brown? 318 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: I say, I get the gist of your question. Yes, 319 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: if you think of think of like cogs in clockwork, 320 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: right where you have one cog that turns another cog 321 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: that turns another cog. So you have to think of 322 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: three wheels because obviously, if you have one set of 323 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: wheels going forward, it's going to make the set of 324 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: wheels underneath go backward. Then you have a third set 325 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: of wheels which would go forward. The claim was that 326 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: this was to increase speed, but in fact it was 327 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: all just it was just hogwash. It was just made 328 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: up so that people would spend money on it. I 329 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: the fact that you're explaining this in this level of 330 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: detail leads me to think it might be be you 331 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: think B is the is the made us That's That's 332 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking, because I know I don't know the 333 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: exact timeline. But I'm pretty I'm pretty confident about scenario three. 334 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: Uh and I don't know, man, maybe we're going to 335 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: end up offending the good people of Erie, Pennsylvania. I mean, 336 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: all three of these take place in Pennsylvania. So that's true. 337 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: That's true. The die is cast. Yeah, what do you 338 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: think you wanna? You want to lock it in? Or 339 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: you was locking in for B baby boom, Oh, the 340 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: locomotion is sweet this day, my friends. No, B is 341 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: absolutely true. It was option three that was the made 342 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: um upseas what. Yes, So there was a train it was. 343 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: It did have a B thirty six jet engine that 344 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: made it go fast, but it never jumped the tracks. 345 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: There was never any accident. No. Instead, what happened was 346 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: they determined that this particular form of locomotion was far 347 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: too expensive. It made no monetary sense. It worked and 348 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: it went pretty fast, but it didn't make any sense 349 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: from the perspective of an investment. It would have been 350 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: a waste of money. The first one, the Eerie, Pennsylvania. 351 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about that was that the reason the 352 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: mayor called upon citizens to rip up the track in 353 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: what we're called the gauge War was because Erie was 354 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: a stopover point, a train would have to stop and unload, 355 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: and then everyone would have to get onto a second 356 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: train to continue their journey because the train could not 357 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: travel on two different gauge tracks. So Pennsylvania, Erie, Pennsylvania's 358 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: their economy depended upon people stopping. They had people who 359 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: would unload the trains, they had hotels and restaurants that 360 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: were all dependent upon this traffic. So it's sort of 361 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: like when Roots sixty six became obsolete, the same sort 362 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: of ideas that now there was no reason for people 363 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: that they could just go right on throw Eerie, Pennsylvania. 364 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: So that was that was the story behind that one, 365 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: and and the other one was in fact just an 366 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: investment scam. Well I feel I feel pretty uh pretty down, guys, 367 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: because I knew, I knew this sort of jet propulsion 368 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: experimentation existed with locomotives and trains, and I knew the 369 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: time I'm period sounded about right. I just I guess 370 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: I unfairly assumed that they would end in a horrific accident, 371 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: which is you know, my just probably goes back to 372 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: my lifelong fear of being attacked by a jet, which 373 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: is always like right around the corner. I live in 374 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: constant fear of being attacked by jets or Corvitt's. You know, 375 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: that's sort of my daily daily paranoia, just walking through life. 376 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: But thankfully we don't go outdoors as much as we 377 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: used to, so but then I would check a crash 378 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: into my my house Donnie Darko style, that would would 379 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: be cool. They're super nimble too, you know, that's what 380 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: people need to We need to talk more about the 381 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: jet threat. Uh. I completely agree with you, Ben, Let's 382 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: let's let's offline about that, and made set up a 383 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: campaign or a go fund me of sometime. I'm still 384 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: stuck on the pain Trade Paintings and Automobiles with Jonathan Strickland, 385 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: a k a. The Quister You got us, man, I'm 386 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: not even gonna sulk about it. That was you really, 387 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: you really, You're really stuck it to us fair and square. 388 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: I was doing a whole text stuff about format wars, 389 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: which is where I came upon the gauge war, and 390 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: that that just sort of precipitated the whole thing I was. 391 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: I was definitely the one that very first said that 392 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 1: one's sounded real. It's like the kind of horrible thing 393 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: people would do when they see a change of coming 394 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: and they don't like it. But yeah, you really capitalized 395 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: on our our own personal biases as human meanings, which 396 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: means you'll have to come back on the show. Uh, 397 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: so that we can we can yet again expose our 398 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: our own biases. Although I think we we both agree 399 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: with each other on jets and the fear of change. Uh. Yeah, yeah, 400 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to check the score. Don't tell me, Jonathan. 401 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: I think we're it's a dead heat because you you 402 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: won last time. Uh, so you have to come back. Uh, 403 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: and don't be such a stranger. Come back sooner, you know, 404 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: because it's been it's been a while. Listen, you're asking 405 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: me not to be stranger, and that's just that's just 406 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: a promise I cannot deliver upon. Oh boy, so with 407 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: uh with this in my Jonathan Strickland, the quister, you 408 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: have one the day, but you have not won the war. 409 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming. You will return in the meantime. 410 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: Where can people learn more about your work and uh 411 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: and and your other your other schemes. Well you can. 412 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: You can learn about all things technology over at the 413 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 1: Tech Stuff podcast. It's a pretty good we've got about episodes, 414 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: So if you don't like the first one, just dig 415 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: into the archive, and then of course you can follow 416 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: me John Strickland over on Twitter and pretty soon you'll 417 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: be able to listen to a totally new podcast that 418 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: also has me on it coming out into Smber. So 419 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: just keep your ears peeled for that? Is that what 420 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: people do with you? I don't know. I don't go 421 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: out anymore. I think you can peel ears or I've 422 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: never understood where eyes peeled means either, So why not 423 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: just apply it to any anything that you can that 424 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: one can sense with keep your hands peeled, not just 425 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: on like something like a torture situation. Um, which is 426 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: which is appropriate considering who we're talking to right now, 427 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: thinks as well to uh, let's pick up the credits 428 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: like this this whole thing, like we didn't just lose. 429 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: So thanks also to Casey Pegraham, thanks to Christopher hasciotis 430 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: uh just he's he's a real gem, and thanks to 431 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: Eaves Jeff Coat are pure podcast on This Day in 432 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: History class, Alex Williams, who composed our theme my Neighbor 433 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: for his incessant leaf blowing. If I've seemed a little 434 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: out of it today. It's because this dude has been 435 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: blowing leaves for like four days straight. How can anyone 436 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: possibly have that many leaves? I was very tempted to 437 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: like literally just storm outside and a huff and just 438 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: literally just say, hey guy, what's is everything? Okay, what's 439 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: what's going on? And I went through the same thing. 440 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: I think I asked Casey to cut some of it 441 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: when I had some very like performatively loud leaf blowers there. 442 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: But that's that's why I'm in the office today. I 443 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: do also want to whatever genius invented the phrase a 444 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 1: clowns pay, A clowns pay. That's it, man, That's all 445 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: I've got. We'll see you next time, of folks. For 446 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart 447 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 448 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: favorite shows.