1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: We are a bit worried about to resume production UM 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area, and that should be identified as 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: a serious risk. UM. You know, we we only have 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: two cough factors right now, one in Shanghai and in area, 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: and the area produced with the vast majority of our cars, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: vast majority of Tesla's made in the Bay Area of California, 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: and the county saying no, you can't make them up 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: until very recently. We're gonna get the latest on that. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: As Ellen said, I'm opening the place back up with 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: you like it or not. It's a three way battle 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: slash discussion between Tesla, the county, and the state and 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: Rex Crumb, senior web editor of the Business section of 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: the Mercury News, San Jose Mercury News and Bay Area Newsgroup, 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: joins us He's been following the story. Rex, how are you. 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I love your intro music there. It 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: took me back to college with that, A little Susie 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: by lick from Tesla. There. We we rock hard around here, Rex, 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: all right, try to keep up. Hey, listen, we first 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: of all, we appreciate the time. But for folks who 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: have not been paying attention to the story, can you 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: give us just that like a thirty second recap. Yeah, 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean sure, in a nutshell, you know, we put 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: the shelter and place order around Alameda County, which is 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: where Tesla's factories located, and several other counties around the 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Bay area. Almost two months ago. UH Tesla held off 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: for a few days closing its factory. Then it finally did, 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: and you know, like a lot of businesses, you know, 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: they've been closed, and they're one of the big last 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: big manufacturers around the Bay area. And finally Ellen Must 30 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, said he'd had enough, and we're said, you know, hey, 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: we're going to reopen things here at least start doing 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: some kind of work because they gotta, you know, they 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: gotta get the assembly lines working, so to speak. And 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: beginning this week and some employees started coming back to 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: work and they started doing some some operations there, and 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: then as of last night, it seems like they've reached 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: an agreement with Alameda County to continue operations to at 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: least you know, to quote unquote legally UH start working 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: again next week. Who made the call for the county. 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: We've been confused by that is that is that a 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: one person decision or is there a board or how 42 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: does at work? Well, it's yeah, that is one of 43 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: the big, you know questions, because you've got the county, 44 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: you've got the sheriff's department, you've got the Health department, 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: you've got the city of Fremont where the plant actually is, 46 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: and you know and its board of uh, you know, supervisors, 47 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: directors and the police there. But it looks like it's 48 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: finally the final decision was you came down to the 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Health department. County health officials said they've reached the deal 50 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: to end this you know, standoff. If you want to 51 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: call it, well, it's probably worth mentioning that Elon Musk 52 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: at one point declared he would be moving manufacturing out 53 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: of California or the headquarters at least out of California 54 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: to Nevada and or Texas, and Gavin Newsom responded at 55 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: the press conferences, softening his stand, saying, Hey, the disputes 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: with the county, California loves you, Elon. I'm paraphrasing here, X. Yeah, 57 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: I know you did. You did a good job of 58 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: paraphrasing there. And part of that, part of what you 59 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: gotta keep in mind is with with Elon Musk. Um. 60 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: You know, he's like President Trump in a way. He 61 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: loves going on Twitter and saying speaking his mind on 62 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: just about anything. So and he says a lot of things. Um. 63 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: If you recall about two years ago as when he 64 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: said he was gonna surprise the world, said gonna take 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: ideal to take Tesla private at four and twenty dollars 66 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: a share, and that caused a big brew for about 67 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: six months. So the thing is, yeah, you can say, 68 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, you're the CEO of a company, but you 69 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: still have your board of directors and even though you're 70 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: Elon Musk and you have a big you know, say 71 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: in the company's uh direction, you know, you can't just 72 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: do everything single handedly. That said, he has already come 73 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: out and said that they're exploring locations, you know, for 74 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: a new Giga factory here in the States. Hinted possibility 75 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: about Texas and there's no way they could just stop 76 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: operations here while they've built a new plant. Say, but 77 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: what they could do and you know, anything's possible. They 78 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: could start building their new factory and then eventually come 79 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: back to California and say, hey, you know, we got 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: this place and you know, outside of Austin, and it's 81 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: looking pretty good. So unless you guys, you know, cut 82 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: us some kind of deal or or we just had enough, 83 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're just gonna start moving operations, move all 84 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: of our opera rations over there. So it's a it's 85 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: a tricky situation because nothing's going to happen overnight, but 86 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: stuff could then potentially happen in another year, two years 87 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: as we worked through all the rigamarole and all the 88 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: economic devast devastation of this crisis that we're in right now. 89 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: So well, so what's the latest Tesla half open? Open? 90 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: How open is it right now and running? Yeah, well 91 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: that's a good questions. No one's really sure is like 92 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: how open is open? Um? You know, I've I've heard 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: from a couple of employees they like they've been told 94 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: to come back to work, um doing some operations. Uh. 95 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: We've heard that they've been doing. Uh, they've been wanting 96 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: to do like some stamping of you know, say like 97 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: door panels and other other portions of the cars, getting 98 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: some painting done. Um, you know, because a lot of 99 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: their cars are already ordered and then they have to 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: fill the orders. So it's not like they just it's 101 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: not like they just make a bunch of cars and 102 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: they sit out on the lot and then when somebody 103 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: goes into a dealership to buy, when they ship it out, 104 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: you know, the like these cars are almost exclusively a 105 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: marked for you or or Joe or whoever you know 106 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: puts the order in. So they got to, you know 107 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: that they've got to get some at least preliminary operations 108 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: going on here. And you know it's you know, the 109 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: bombm lands. It's a business. They need to get their 110 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: operations back up and running well. And I need to 111 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: point out that Elon Musk did make it clear from 112 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: the beginning that they would reopen in a very safe 113 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: and smart way. They would not go back to full 114 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: capacity and the rest of it. They would take precautions 115 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: and follow the guidelines that the government has asked us to. 116 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: Rex Crumb, senior web editor to the Business section of 117 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: the Mercury News in the Bay Area newsgroup. Mercury News, 118 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: to my mind, the premier newspaper in northern Cala. We 119 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: have believe that for a long time we were honest, 120 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: honest to God. We always know the Mercury reporters are 121 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: gonna be the best, and they always turned out to be. 122 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: But anyway, how do you pronounce his kid's name? How 123 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: are you going with it? E x A one dash, 124 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I j for right now on if 125 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: you're listening, No fans, I don't know how to see 126 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: your kid's name. But too clever, behalf as they say, 127 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: Rex Crumb, Hey Rex, great to talk to you. Well done, 128 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: let's stay in touch. No problem, good to talk to you. Thanks. 129 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: I do want one of the cybertruck trucks, and so 130 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: get to working on them. Oh yeah, go ahead, stamp 131 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: those doors. Get that paint and done. Ellen, and the 132 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: doors ain't getta stamp themselves. A cracker Herger A yeah, 133 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: I tell you what it's you know what bothers me 134 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: so much? Oh you're gonna you're gonna talk about something else. 135 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna what? You know what 136 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: makes me? What makes me crazy? And it shouldn't. But 137 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: this is why I drink is so often. The actual 138 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: story is so much more interesting then the phony, dumbed down, 139 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: one sided one. I understand the mass media. The keyword 140 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: there is mass and they've got to appeal to the 141 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: nose picking ist, paste eating thist flits out there you know, 142 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: not a charitable view of a reader viewerging around, well, 143 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: a certain percentage of people. We've all run into them, 144 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: picking your nose and eating adhesives. Well. But but the 145 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: actual story is so interesting. This one has to do 146 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: with and and every business person knows this interlocking badly 147 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: and overlapping poorly layers of government with all sorts of 148 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: layers of regulation and authority and the rest of it. 149 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: I have a buddy who's a small businessman. He's busted 150 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: his ass his entire life and he's made a success 151 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: of it, and I congratulate him. Um, But he told 152 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: me the story about he had on consecutive days a 153 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: state official say if you do not do a you 154 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: will be closed down. And the next day a county 155 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: guy came and said, if you do not do the 156 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: opposite of A, I will close you down. And he 157 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: just he didn't know whether to poop or dance the 158 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: hoochie coop, and he had to go into a week's 159 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: long paperwork nightmare to sort out the regulatory clash between 160 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: his state and his county. Meanwhile, old Elan is just 161 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: trying to crank out his his space trucks that either 162 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: look like the coolest thing I've ever had, I've I've 163 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: ever seen, or are ridiculous