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Speaker 1: The late fifteen ten touchdowns. What's up, guys. We're back

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Speaker 1: with another episode of Chargers Weekly, as always, joined by

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Speaker 1: Matt Money Smith and Money. We're in this second wave

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Speaker 1: of free Agency's still a lot to get into, morgand

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Speaker 1: boxes back and as you're adterly retired from Tranquil Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Austin Eckler was on Chris Long's podcast, So still a

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Speaker 1: lot to get into. Where do you want to start? Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll start with Drew because we've talked about

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Speaker 1: him quite a bit, and you know, this is what

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Speaker 1: we expected, is as soon as Eric Hendricks was signed

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Speaker 1: by the Chargers, that that meant Drew was out. It's funny,

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Speaker 1: it goes back to kind of like what I was

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Speaker 1: talking about with Chenna, and it's you know, the you

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Speaker 1: just at the market a lot of times it's not

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Speaker 1: what you think it's going to be. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: incredibly surprised that that Drew and his agent took a

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Speaker 1: one year, five million dollars deal, but certainly they know

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Speaker 1: the market better. And again, you know, young ascending versus

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Speaker 1: player in its peak ends up being cheaper than Kendricks,

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Speaker 1: which I don't think any of us could have possibly projected.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I guess I guess the way I

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Speaker 1: look at it, Chris's you know, the defense has not

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Speaker 1: been good the last two years, and whether or not

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Speaker 1: that's Drew's fault or not, I can't say. I think

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Speaker 1: he's an exceptional player, a super heady, instinctual player. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason why he got the green dot for

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Speaker 1: the back, you know, eight nine games of that season,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think I think he'll be missed.

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Speaker 1: Now that said, you know, maybe there's something that I'm

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Speaker 1: not seeing, you know that that my football brain can't see,

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Speaker 1: but the coaches can, and they like the way Kendricks

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Speaker 1: plays the position, perhaps more for Brandon's scheme the players

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Speaker 1: from my you know, sort of observations, he's so instinctual.

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Speaker 1: Just the way he times his blitzes is as good

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Speaker 1: in key moments, and you know that's maybe that's something

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Speaker 1: that was just a little too glaring that they figured,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kendricks is a little more reliable in that

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Speaker 1: incredible bummer that he's going to the Chiefs. And I

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Speaker 1: think we'll get into this in a little, you know,

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Speaker 1: a little bit more, But you know, I think the

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Speaker 1: one thing the Chiefs have that people don't realize when

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Speaker 1: they sign all these contracts, they have so many young

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Speaker 1: like this, and you know, when you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: they try to put this puzzle together. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: so the reports are one year five million, which I'm

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Speaker 1: You've talked about it so many times how instinctual Drew

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Speaker 1: he's not the guy as the linebacker and it's only

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Speaker 1: it's good for Drew because he gets a year to

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Speaker 1: are thirteen million Hunter Henry you know that. What you know,

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Speaker 1: So here's what Schultz did last year with Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: in one of the most high octane offenses in the league. Right,

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Speaker 1: the comps here? Oh, Gerald ever can be my Dalton Schultz.

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Speaker 1: He had the same exact numbers, and frankly, he may

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Speaker 1: guess the best way to put it is this, This

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Speaker 1: has been a little bit of a weird year for

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Speaker 1: to spend. Yeah, which chargers. Chargers benefit from that. Bringing

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Speaker 1: that's always seems devalued is the running back position. Austin

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Speaker 1: Eckler was on Chris Long's podcast kind of discussing his

452
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Speaker 1: current situation, and you know, just paraphrasing, he said, Hey,

453
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Speaker 1: it's not like I want to be out of LA

454
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Speaker 1: I hate the Chargers because I want to be back.

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Speaker 1: But he just wants to be back on different terms.

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00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: And he says he's outplayed his contract. He's you know,

457
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: going to score twenty touchdowns this year for whoever team

458
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: he plays for. And this is where it just gets interesting.

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00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: And I see both sides of this man. I see

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Speaker 1: the front office a side as it relates to the

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00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: running back position, and I certainly see the player's side.

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00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I always feel like at some point

463
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Speaker 1: and I saw somebody tweet this or write about it.

464
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember who it was, but it's so true.

465
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: Like I think that running backs should be able to

466
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Speaker 1: hit free agency earlier in their career because that position

467
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: gets beat up and by the time you're thirty year

468
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: career is done, you know, so if you want to

469
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Speaker 1: get paid, I'll never forget. I remember twenty twelve when

470
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: the now Washington Committeds drafted RG three. Right, they drafted

471
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Speaker 1: running back named Alfred Morris in the seventh round, ends

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Speaker 1: up breaking John Riggins's rushing record. Right. He was awesome

473
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: for the first two or three years of his career,

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Speaker 1: but he was a seventh round pick, never got paid,

475
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Speaker 1: and by the time his contract was up, it was over.

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00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't going to get that big money contract.

477
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: So I see the running back side of this. As

478
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: far as Austin is concerned, listen, I get his frustrations.

479
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time, there's a lot of running

480
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: backs out there right now that you could plug in

481
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: and they could be a you know, a one two

482
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Speaker 1: punch or a primary runner. And I don't want to

483
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: say you're not going to miss a beat, but you know,

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00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: the way that the Chargers offense has constructed money. When

485
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: you have Keenan and Mike and Gerald and whoever else

486
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Speaker 1: is going to be in the backfield this year, that's

487
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: still a lot of weapons. Josh Palmer is still a

488
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: lot of weapons for Justin Herbert. This is where two things.

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Speaker 1: One Austin could not have been more classy, and the

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Speaker 1: way he answered the question and explained the situation didn't

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Speaker 1: take shots at the Chargers, and he shouldn't. It's a

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Speaker 1: team that put him on a roster undrafted out of

493
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Speaker 1: Western Colorado essentially shows him over the first round pick

494
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon. When they gave him that four year, twenty

495
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: eight million dollar extension, he got paid early. He got

496
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Speaker 1: paid on potential what they envisioned coming. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he was always underpaid or always or at one

498
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: moment he was overpaid, but they they gave him money

499
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: based on what they thought was to come. He was.

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Speaker 1: It was a it was a running back by committee

501
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: to some degree. Melvin was still the lead back, and

502
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: they said, you know what we're gon We're gonna give

503
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: you a lot of money for a second running back.

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00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you twenty whatever it was twenty six

505
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: or twenty eight million bucks. I don't remember what the

506
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: contract was, but it was four years somewhere between those two.

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00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: So I think he appreciates that. I think he recognizes,

508
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't just because the last two years

509
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: I've severely outperformed this contract doesn't mean that that there's

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00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: some sort of you know, ill will or malice directed

511
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Speaker 1: at him from the Chargers when he asked for a

512
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: new deal. I think it. So that's that's one thing

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00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: I want to acknowledge, because some players they don't behave,

514
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: you know, they don't shouldn't say behave, They don't present

515
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: things that way. They get angry, they take shots and

516
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: they forget. Let's forget what you know, where you were

517
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: when this contract came. You know, you got a first

518
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: round pick who's playing at a pretty decent level in

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00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, and they gave you this money. So I

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00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: think he recognized that. My second thing is probably didn't

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00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: see and the agent probably did not find anything out there.

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00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: And so now he's got a sort of regroup. Understand.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to leave the Chargers. I want things

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00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: to work out with them. If they found what they

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00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: want that's not going to be the position. It's there's

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Speaker 1: other people that value my services more in line with

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Speaker 1: what I believe I should be compensated. And even though

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00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss the Chargers, it's time for us to

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00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: each go our separate ways because clearly we're at different

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00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: points in our careers and have different visions of what

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00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm working. You know. So my guess is he didn't

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00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: find it. Yeah, reless I pursue it still, he says,

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00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna relentlessly pursue whatever that is, whatever that team

534
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: is in that contract. And it seems like you said,

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00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: I've always thought that work in progress. Yeah, I've always

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00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: thought this. The solution to this is going to be

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00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: a short extension from the Chargers. They'll tack on a

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00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: year because he look, he's gonna be twenty eight in

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00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: a month or in two months, right, so he's gonna

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Speaker 1: play this season at twenty eight, He'll play next season

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Speaker 1: at twenty nine, and from there, that's it. You know,

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00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: they just that's it. Go go look at the numbers.

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00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: There are no thirty year old running backs that are

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00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: still construt you know. People want to point to the

545
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey contract. He's two years younger, so that's a

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00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: huge difference because once running backs get to twenty nine,

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00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: that's when teams are just going no, not gonna do it.

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00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: We's it's happened too any times when you give the extension,

549
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: and do I think Austin could be an outlier? One

550
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: hundred percent? He busts his tail, He's an incredible shape,

551
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: but just the nuts. That's more thinking with as a

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00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: fan and as a fan of Austin, as a fan

553
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: of the Chargers, that's what you want to see happen.

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00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: But what history tells you and what statistics tell you

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00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: is it's not going to So you can't afford to

556
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: tie up twelve fourteen million bucks and a guy in

557
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: his age thirty and thirty one season, which is why

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00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: I think what I'm guessing is he's going to be

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00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: a Charger next year, whether or not. It's going to

560
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: be a little acrimonious and it's a hold in and

561
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: he just plays on this last year six point two

562
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: five million dollar deal, you know, six point two five

563
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: million that's left on his contract from the extension, or

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Speaker 1: if they are able to figure something out and tack

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00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: on another year, maybe bump that thing up a little bit,

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00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: maybe give an extra million bucks, you know, extra two

567
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: million bucks or something from the last two years of production. Asay, hey, thanks,

568
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, here's some extra scratch. We do appreciate you.

569
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: It's just the economics of the game. It's it's the

570
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: reality of the position, your situation, and what history tells us.

571
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: You know what, when we use history as a guide,

572
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: what it looks like. And that's unfortunately for Austin at

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00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: this age, at twenty seven this year, turning twenty eight

574
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: in May, and then twenty nine next year, that's that's

575
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: typically it and then it's all going to be proven deals. Sobody,

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00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: what do you think the mindset of the Chargers in

577
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: tom to let's go in the front office is at

578
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: this point because you did you granted him permission to

579
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: seek a trade and to talk to other teams. As

580
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: far as you know right now, he's probably still doing

581
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: that and you know, trying to figure out what the

582
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: landscape is. At the same time, you have to take

583
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: care of your team, not knowing if Austin's gonna go

584
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: somewhere and get a deal that that he likes and

585
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: the Chargers like what do you do as the general

586
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: manager as far as the running game is concerned. Are

587
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: you good with the guys you currently have? Do you

588
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: sign a Veteran's a lot of them out there right now,

589
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: there's no votes. No. It goes back to what we

590
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: were talking about, how they need more rookies on rookie

591
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: contracts for depth. So my guess is the compensation that

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00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: they would consider trading Austin for If I had to guess,

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00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: there's no way it's anything less than a two. It's

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00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: got to be a two. And my guess is that's

595
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: where they fill the running back. They draft Charbonnet in

596
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: the second or something along those lines, it would be

597
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: another rookie. So that's and otherwise Austin's coming back, we'll

598
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: get a team's two. We'll have our one, we'll have

599
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: two twos. We can figure something out. And if Robinson's

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00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: there at twenty one, take him because now you've got

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00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: the extra second to fill another position. There's your two

602
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: that you don't have to trade out of, right, So

603
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: that's that's what I figure they would do, is it's

604
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a rookie or it's gonna be Austin. You know,

605
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Josh Kelly Isaiah Spiller a rookie or Josh Kelly Isaiah

606
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: Spiller Austin Eckler are the two options. Yeah, moving forward,

607
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: that's my guess. Yeah, And that's the name. The name

608
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: of Isaiah Spiller is the one that we're still just

609
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, wait, wait and see, and you hope that

610
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: that's the guy that pops right. I mean, no idea,

611
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: We have no clue, no idea, no clue, no idea.

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00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: So I would draft a running back every year though,

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Speaker 1: That's what I would do. I would take one every

614
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: single year. I would draft offensive lineman every year. I

615
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: would drop two offensive linemen every year. I would draft

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00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: a running back every year. I drafted a wide receiver.

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00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: We've had this conversation. My team doesn't play defense. As

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Speaker 1: a general manager, I don't I figure that out. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about defense. I'm gonna I'm

620
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: in an advision with Patrick Mahomes. He can't be stopped

621
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Speaker 1: speaking of that. Speaking of that, are you comfortable with

622
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: Easton Stick? Is your number two? So a couple of

623
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: things there. One selfishly, yes, he's one of my favorite

624
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: players on the roster. He says he could have a

625
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: dude he's the best guy. And the reason I bring

626
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: that up after I think last week we discussed the

627
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: emotional You don't want to get caught with these guys.

628
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: So the reason I bring that up is that's a

629
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: huge part of his role is what is your disposition?

630
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: What kind of person are you? You're the backup quarterback.

631
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: You're here to support Justin. You're here to do everything

632
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: you can to make him the best quarterback he can be,

633
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: not be ready if your numbers called, but you're here

634
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: to support him. Easton's you want to be around him.

635
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: He's just a great dude. And I think he and

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Speaker 1: Herbert are very similar guys North Dakota, Oregon. They both

637
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: are outdoorsman, so I think that goes a long way

638
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: is to have that connection. It was Philip and Kellen Clements.

639
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: There was just a level of comfort there and that's

640
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: why this guy, you know, is in our room. Easton

641
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: is incredibly smart, incredibly smart, so that helps too. Justin

642
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: comes off the field. Easton's the type of player that

643
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: processes lightning fast. So when Justin comes off and immediately

644
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: comes to the sideline, and you know there's Doug nus

645
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: Meyer's quarterback coach, and and Easton, what did you see?

646
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Bang bang bang? Easton saw it all right away. That

647
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: that's the asset. The second thing is something we brought

648
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks ago. Does Kellen Moore want

649
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: to bring Cooper Rush with him? Much like Joe Lombardy

650
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: brought Chase Daniel? So it also tells me what kind

651
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: of guy Kellen Moore is that because I'm sure they're

652
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: making the same money. Any you know, Cooper could be

653
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: his you know, if Kellen's upstairs, Colin plays Cooper's down

654
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: there for Kellen next to Justin to be an extension

655
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: of Kellen, for Kellen to recognize, No, we're fine. You know,

656
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Justin likes this guy. I'm not going to force my

657
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: guy on Justin. I want Justin Herbert to be comfortable,

658
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: so I want him to have his guy. I think

659
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: that says a lot about the type of coach that

660
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is that, instead of shoving his guy on

661
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: him like Joe did, No, you need you need Chase

662
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: Daniel in that room. I need to have Chase here

663
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: all right now? We got to carry three quarterbacks because

664
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: Justin really likes Easton, but Joe really likes Chase, there

665
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: goes a roster spot. It's a complete waste of one

666
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: point eight million bucks in my opinion for Chase Daniel.

667
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: And you know it's a double whammy. Now you can

668
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: get away with Carrie in two quarterbacks instead of three,

669
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: and Kellen and Justin and are totally good with the

670
00:36:53,600 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: quarterback room. Yeah, the question mark is obviously listen, I always,

671
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: I always subscribe to this. We spend so much money

672
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: on quarterbacks in the NFL, and this is a very

673
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: violent sport. You know, knock on would if anything happens

674
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: and you're down your first string quarterback for a month,

675
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, can can my backup hold

676
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: down the fort for a month? Right? Can they win?

677
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: Can they go two and two? Can they go three

678
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: and one? And I'm not saying Easton can't because I

679
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: think that he really hasn't gotten that opportunity to show

680
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: what he can do like I would have. I would

681
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: have liked to see Easton as the number two quarterback

682
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: last year. So you run into this kind of dilemma

683
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: where all right, there's veterans out there, Um, they're gonna

684
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: cost money, but is that money worth it to have

685
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: an insurance policy of a of a veteran who's won games,

686
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: who you can say, hey, if my guy goes down

687
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: for a little bit, this guy is. This guy can

688
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: come in and do his thing. So, like I go

689
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: back and forth, especially with a quarterback as elite as

690
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: justin I feel like the better quarterback that you have money,

691
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: it's like you almost have to you almost have to

692
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: get a guy you can never equal it. But but

693
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: a veteran who you would be comfortable with for a

694
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: month without your number one, and I hope he's in.

695
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: Is that guy? I really do because we love him.

696
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: But I'm just not sure. And I don't know where

697
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: do you fall on that, because I do think that

698
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: that backup quarterback I would invest a lot if I

699
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: was a GEO. So you make a great point, except

700
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: I'll disagree with you in one aspect of it, And

701
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: that's the window if if your starter is down four games,

702
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: you're probably screwed. It's just the reality in the NFL

703
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: with how much, like you said, with how much money

704
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks make, you're probably screwed. Now, Cooper Rush did it

705
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: last year for Dak Right. It worked and they ended

706
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: up making we thought season and Cooper Rush plays great. Typically,

707
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: and this is just me interpreting what I've heard about

708
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: front offices. They want the backup quarterback to win a half.

709
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: If my guy's got to go out and we got

710
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: to lead at halftime and you now have to play

711
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: the third and fourth quarter, can we maintain that lead?

712
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: Can we win the game? That's what I need you

713
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: to do, and worst case scenario, I need you next week.

714
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: Six quarters is typically what they're looking at. Can my

715
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: guy go out and win six quarters of football? So yes,

716
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: I think Easton can do that, and I know he's

717
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: shown very little that would lead the people listening to believe, like,

718
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: why would you say that? For me, it's just something

719
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: that we talked about with Drew. Instincts, processing smarts, understanding

720
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: the system, and Easton's athletic you could make You could

721
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: cut the field and half have him do a bunch

722
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: of rollouts, designed runs. You know, he's an athlete. Easton

723
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: could be a Taysom Hill like player. I believe he's

724
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: not quite as big or as thick, but he's big

725
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: enough and he's enough that he could end up doing

726
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: something like that. So that's that's kind of the way

727
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: I look at it. Can you win six quarters, and

728
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: I think Easton can do that. And for me, the

729
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: more important part of it is how how is he

730
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: in the room. What does he do to make Justin

731
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: a better quarterback? And by all accounts for those that

732
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: work with him and are around the team a lot,

733
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: Justin really likes having him in the room. So that's

734
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. But I think the one,

735
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: the one thing that'll go overlooked, I'll just repeat it

736
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: real quick, is what Kellen Moore, how his role in

737
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: this was and why I really appreciate that compared to

738
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: the guy we had last and the player that he

739
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: wanted on this roster in order to execute what his

740
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: vision was. I really appreciate that Kellen is comfortable with

741
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: whatever Justin's comfortable with and not insisting upon having a

742
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: guy as a backup to somehow interpret what he's trying

743
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: to convey, no doubt. You know. The one example I

744
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brisset last year. He had the Browns in every

745
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: freaking game, man, and really those losses really were not

746
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: on him. I mean the defense faltered. See that's a

747
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: different backup, Chris, you know, like that's a different backup.

748
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: Now you're spending and they paid him in accordingly. You're

749
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a half season starter, so we're gonna give

750
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: you ten million bucks. And that's when you look at

751
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: is the ten million worth it? Because we expect Justin

752
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: to play seventeen games. So Andy Dalton we knew was

753
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: gonna challenge Jamis. They weren't sure if Jamis was the guy.

754
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: We knew that Mitch Trubisky was gonna was gonna probably start,

755
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: and you know, Kenny Pickett was going to be the

756
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: backup to start, and the hope was Mitch's the starter

757
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: all year. That's a different backup than you know Jared's.

758
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: Here's this is the interesting one. Jared Stidham sean payer

759
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: coming in like, hey, I don't know, Russell, I don't know.

760
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: I hope you're the guy, but I don't know. So

761
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring Jared Stidman at four and a half

762
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: million bucks a year, a big number when your quarterback's

763
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: making forty eight million bucks, because I don't know. You know,

764
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: if you know, then it looks like Chad Henny at

765
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: thirty eight years old behind Patrick Mahomes. That's that's the difference.

766
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: When it's Cooper rushed behind Dak Prescott. It's Mahasselbeck with

767
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck exactly. It's you know, that's what it looks.

768
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: Curtis Painter behind Peyton Manning, Jim Sorgi behind Peyton Manning.

769
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: That's what it looks like. So this is in step

770
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: with having I don't even know who Joe Burrow's backup is.

771
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: I was trying to wrap it was Aj mccaren, I

772
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: think for a second, but I don't know who it is,

773
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: Like hit the XFL baby, Yeah, so that this is

774
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: what the backup looks like. When you have a Justin Herbert,

775
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: you expect him to play seventeen games. You've built your

776
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: team for him to play seventeen games, and if he

777
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: goes down, oh boy, yeah, we'll wrap on this. Pro

778
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: days all around the NFL. Man, And this isn't really

779
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: charged related, but I guess it is applicable because there

780
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: could be five quarterbacks taken before twenty one. Man, the

781
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: hooker thing is is fascinating because if he does get selected,

782
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: he'll probably the fifth quarterback. And the Chargers, you know,

783
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: we worked to the sixteen essentially. What are your thoughts

784
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: on what the Panthers may do at number one overall.

785
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: I think they have like fourteen people at Stroud's Pro

786
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: day today. So I still think Bryce Young's the best quarterback.

787
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm biased, of course, He's my day kid. I watched

788
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: what I thought was some of the best high school

789
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: football I've ever seen in my life when he was quarterbacking.

790
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: You could see it at that level, and obviously you

791
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: saw it at Alabama. Everybody says the same thing, and

792
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: it's it's foolish to say because it's just not the case. Yes, obviously,

793
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: if Bryce Young is six foot two, two hundred and

794
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds, he's in the conversation with Joe Burrow and

795
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: Trevor Lauren as one of these elite players that you

796
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: are so lucky you've got the number one pick in

797
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: the draft. But because he's five foot ten and he

798
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: is small, I know he weighed in at two hundred pounds,

799
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: but he's just a slight player. He's not He's not

800
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, he's not Russell Wilson. These guys that are

801
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: short but they're stout. That's not Bryce. He's slight and

802
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: he's short, but man, is he good. And every quarterback

803
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: has flaws, every single one of them. That. You know, CJ.

804
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: Stroud isn't athletic enough. Will Levice a year wasn't that great?

805
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: Was it because he was injured? Was he behind an

806
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: offensive line? Anthony Richardson is super athletic, but is incredibly raw.

807
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: Accuracy issues some real stinkers, Uh did not have a

808
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: winning record, all that sort of stuff going ahead of

809
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: those guys. I can't see that. I can't see him.

810
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: You can, I can. I can see it just because

811
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: of how ridiculous it is. It is. He's a physical

812
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: freak complete it is when he's he's sort of not

813
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: like he's not joking in terms of the physical profile.

814
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: When he calls himself Cam Jackson, you know, or Lamar Newton,

815
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: he's that fast, he's that big, he's that strong. The

816
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: problem is Mark Jackson won the Heisman, Cam Newton won

817
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: a national championship. Anthony Richardson has done nothing but post

818
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: to losing record in his one season full season as

819
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: a starter. So there's the issue. So each what I'm getting,

820
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: as each of them have issues, I'm going to take

821
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: the best guy and cross my fingers that the issue

822
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: that the issue with Bryce Young being too small doesn't

823
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: show up. I'm gonna invest heavily on the offensive line,

824
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: heavily in a run game. I'm going to protect the

825
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: heck out of him. And that's that's what I would do.

826
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: There's people that, Yeah, Thomas Davis old friend alert on

827
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: NFL work says he thinks it's Anthony Richardson that he

828
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: thinks they want to they want to try to recreate

829
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: that cam frenzy that really had Panthers fans frothing at

830
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: the mouth and helped take him to a super Bowl

831
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: and one an MVP, and that they want to they

832
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: want that again, and that Richardson would be the guy

833
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: at number one. So yeah, if it were me, would

834
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: be Bryce. And I also hear not yeah, I was

835
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: gonna say. You also hear whispers that Frank Reich likes

836
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: big quarterbacks and you know, Josh McCown's quarterback coach, big guy.

837
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: He said, not necessarily, Um, I don't know the way

838
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: shrouded through at the combine. And just like you said,

839
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: Bryce is just just put on the tape, right, just

840
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 1: put on the tape like those two guys. I think

841
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, Like that's the thing

842
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: is there's a there's a gap there is a gap

843
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: between Bryce Young and everybody else in terms of what's

844
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: on tape. So for me, I would just again, it's

845
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Speaker 1: a lot of draft capital to give up to go

846
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: up to number one, but I would rather take the

847
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: risk that I can keep the best quarterback healthy as

848
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: opposed to I can get CJ. Stroud to be a

849
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: little bit more athletic, because you've got to be able

850
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: to move in this league. And that Will Levis was

851
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: a product of his environment and a beat up old

852
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: line in the SEC and myriad injuries that prevented him

853
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: from playing at an incredibly high level. And I'll bet

854
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: on those physical tools or just the raw the high

855
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: high high ceiling and low low low floor of Anthony Richardson.

856
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: I'd rather take the Bryce Young risk. Yeah, agreed, Hey,

857
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: speaking of old friend alert that are linebackers Denzel Perriman

858
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: going to the Texans? Oh about that? So there we go,

859
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: goinge that play me go physical tough guy, Paraman, physical

860
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: tough guy, smart player, one of my favorite Chargers. Just

861
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: again in that same lane of couldn't stay healthy, and

862
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: it's it's unfortunate now that his not staying healthy was

863
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: a product of the way he plays football. Chris Manny

864
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: makes you pay when you come to meet him. Yeah.

865
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: I remember doing a podcast with him and Casey Hayward

866
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: and Casey just heav he died just talking about the

867
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: way that Denzel plays. He's like, oh, not today, Denzel

868
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: knocking your knocking your block off man. When he was

869
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: at Miami and coming out for the draft, and Bucky

870
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: and I were doing the draft podcast before DJ showed

871
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: up to do move the Sticks and all that, we

872
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: had Denzel in he was making the rounds as a

873
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, incoming college player. He showed up into the

874
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: studio in a sleeveless shirt and I just remember him

875
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: walking and I was like, how do you even escape

876
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: those arms? Like, once those arms get around you, it's

877
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: just you're over. It's done. This guy's gonna have zero

878
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: mistackles because once he makes contact, you're done. He's so

879
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: good for him. I hope he got a big number

880
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: and he keeps the career going because he's he's one

881
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: of my favorites and a very likable person too. Yeah.

882
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: I miss that guy. All right, money, we'll wrap it up,

883
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: I get We'll go draft heavy. You know, we got

884
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: a month away till till the first round, and as

885
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: these pro days come pouring in, we'll get a draft experts,

886
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: or maybe we get dj on before before the Chargers pick. Yeah,

887
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if he'd agreed to

888
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: do it, and he's tough guy to track down. I

889
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe he's a he's a busy man though,

890
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: you know. So I don't know if we're on the

891
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: top of the docket, but maybe we can get him.

892
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: I think he's he's done. He's he's got to get

893
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: everything done by the combine. Once he gets past the combine,

894
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: and he's already done all these guys. He's great at um.

895
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: He's got it all laid out. There's now he's just

896
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: pounding the pavement and working the phones and try, oh

897
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: get some answers, you know. So his his heavy lifting

898
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: of watching all that tape and preparing for six hundred

899
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: guys and stuff like that. He's already got that squared away.

900
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: The hay is in the barn for Daniel Joe. There

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00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: you go, all right, guys, I appreciate you listening and watching.

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