Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house stuff
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Speaker 1: Josh Clark with me as always Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Uh,
Speaker 1: you put it together, rubb us and lube. You've got
Speaker 1: yourself stuff. You should know. You have a lawsuit on
Speaker 1: your hands from you, right, Yeah, somebody how you doing? Man? Oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta speeding ticket on the way here. I'm piste off.
Speaker 1: Well everything of the last fifteen minutes before we started recording,
Speaker 1: as I explained, No, we talked about regular stuff that
Speaker 1: didn't influence my my feelings about this. But you're still
Speaker 1: like you had to burn your bonnet well for that cop. Man.
Speaker 1: This state patrol they don't miss around, No, they don't.
Speaker 1: There's no like, there's no small talk, there's no nothing.
Speaker 1: It's give me your license and then here's your ticket.
Speaker 1: I was like, but get and that was anyone who
Speaker 1: refers to you and the what the second person is, citizen?
Speaker 1: They're they're pretty serious people. Yeah, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: court though, why not? Good for you? Man? You know,
Speaker 1: we don't we don't work. You never know you might
Speaker 1: get out of it. Yeah, we'll give it a shot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So aside from that, I had my condom on, so
Speaker 1: I was safe driving. That's good. Yeah, you always wear one, right,
Speaker 1: you can't be too careful? How often do you change it? Gross? May?
Speaker 1: That is so gross? All right? Uh, let's talk about
Speaker 1: Measure B. Have you heard a Measure B. H. It
Speaker 1: is a referendum that Los Angeles County floated in this
Speaker 1: last election that passed of the vote. Um, it said,
Speaker 1: if you're in the porn industry and you're filming, you
Speaker 1: have to wear a condom. Good. Well, it depends on
Speaker 1: who you are. If you are a citizen, yeah, you
Speaker 1: probably think it's good, especially if you voted in favor
Speaker 1: of it. Sure. If you're in the porn industry, though,
Speaker 1: you're like, people don't want to see that, and um,
Speaker 1: they're actually talking about moving from Los Angeles, which is
Speaker 1: a big deal. People, I don't want to see a
Speaker 1: condom in their porn movies. I guess I don't want
Speaker 1: to see any of that stuff. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see what's attached to the condom either. Okay, so you
Speaker 1: wouldn't care? Uh no, yeah, I guess so I don't
Speaker 1: want to see any stuff. Like apparently there's a longstanding
Speaker 1: thing in the porn industry. It's like, you just don't
Speaker 1: show condoms. It just it reflects the unnatural nous maybe
Speaker 1: of of what you're seeing. Um, what you're like, Well,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's probably not the pizza guy after all,
Speaker 1: you know. So um, it blows the illusion that that's
Speaker 1: real stuff. So they're talking about about moving from Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: which is huge Los Angeles because apparently in just Los
Speaker 1: Angeles County porn it's a billion dollar industries in the valley,
Speaker 1: just in one county. Can you imagine in that So
Speaker 1: there's a big carefuffle going on right now over condom
Speaker 1: usage in the porn industry. To ever tell you about
Speaker 1: the time I scouted the porn stage for video shoot. No,
Speaker 1: was this did key for Sutherland's driver take you there? No,
Speaker 1: But I was working as a p A and we
Speaker 1: couldn't afford like a real stage, so we they sent
Speaker 1: me out to the valley of this porn stage to
Speaker 1: go videotape it and see what it looked like. And uh,
Speaker 1: it just like a boardroom with a bed in the corner,
Speaker 1: and a candy shop with a bed, and a gymnasium
Speaker 1: locker room. With a bed. It was really gross and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to touch anything. And uh, as I
Speaker 1: was leaving, a bunch of big muscly men came in
Speaker 1: to get their shoot on. Oh is that right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: was a gay porn I had that afternoon. It was Oh,
Speaker 1: so it's just like whatever. It's like, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a sound stage. Yeah, they take all comers, you know.
Speaker 1: And so these two dudes walked in and I walked out,
Speaker 1: and I don't think we ended up using the stage,
Speaker 1: but it was funny. In the conference room set there
Speaker 1: was a framed like Olan Mills or I was a
Speaker 1: painting of Burt Reynolds and Lonnie Anderson like at the
Speaker 1: head of the conference room. No way, yep, sort of got.
Speaker 1: That's one thing about porn and stream moguls. They seem
Speaker 1: to always have like a great sense of humor. I
Speaker 1: think this is before Boogie Nights, even because I didn't
Speaker 1: make that connection. It was just Burt Reynolds. That was
Speaker 1: definitely before Boogie Nights. But I mean think about Larry Flint,
Speaker 1: He's he has a great sense of humor. Um, Hugh Hefner.
Speaker 1: Maybe I think the less hardcore you get, the less
Speaker 1: away the further away from hardcore, you get the less,
Speaker 1: the less of a sense of humor. The publisher has.
Speaker 1: I bet there's some mathematical formula in there. We'll see
Speaker 1: it one day, alright, So condoms is what we're talking about. Um,
Speaker 1: we should say, if you're young, you might want to
Speaker 1: ask your parents if you should listen to this. Oh man,
Speaker 1: you know that is a good c o A like.
Speaker 1: I think it's up to parents how they educate their
Speaker 1: children with this stuff. So we have you have been
Speaker 1: war Warren. Go put your little pot uh player down, Goss,
Speaker 1: Mom and dad? Should I be listening to this? We're
Speaker 1: gonna be very clinical here, but it's about sex and reproduction,
Speaker 1: so it can't be too careful. I wonder how many
Speaker 1: kids just like pull the cheeks over? What do you think?
Speaker 1: I don't know? Vast majority? Okay, so um, let's try
Speaker 1: this again. We're talking condoms, um, and apparently they what
Speaker 1: we think of as condom usage normal, widespread. It's talked about,
Speaker 1: there's billboards whatever. Is actually a fairly recent phenomenon. The
Speaker 1: billboards and things. Yeah, and just the idea of like
Speaker 1: using condoms like that's that's pretty recent. Um. From the eighties.
Speaker 1: And actually it was HIV that kind of um spurred
Speaker 1: this condom age that we live in now. But there
Speaker 1: have been like another golden age of condoms, uh shortly
Speaker 1: after the Great War, right, that's right. Venarial diseases were
Speaker 1: pretty easy to get if you were a sailor on
Speaker 1: leave in Europe, and so they encouraged troops to uh
Speaker 1: use use condoms and distributed them in the in the ranks,
Speaker 1: among the ranks, and when they came back home, they
Speaker 1: kept using. My guess they hit a big boom here
Speaker 1: in the in the nineteen what I guess forties. Post
Speaker 1: war era died down in the sixties because the pill exactly,
Speaker 1: and then picked back up again in the eighties because
Speaker 1: of HIV. Yeah, because we we figured out things too clever,
Speaker 1: things like penicillin and all that stuff. Um that most
Speaker 1: of the STDs that condoms were preventing at the time
Speaker 1: you could just treat with antibiotics. So people weren't too
Speaker 1: concerned with that kind of thing. And then the pill
Speaker 1: came along and I was like, we have no need
Speaker 1: for condoms orsoever. But then and then condoms us had
Speaker 1: started to go through the roof, which is good. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: but apparently condoms are an extremely old idea. At the
Speaker 1: at least, putting something on the over your penis, whether
Speaker 1: for recreational purposes or whatever, is at least fifteen thousand
Speaker 1: years old. Right, Yeah, I think Tracy of pop Stuff
Speaker 1: wrote this article. We should point out she's responsible for
Speaker 1: the most comprehensive podcasts we've done. Yeah. I never even
Speaker 1: think twice when I look in and see her name
Speaker 1: in the Byline'm like, oh, well, we should totally do this. Um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She points out that fifteen thousand years ago we have
Speaker 1: found cave paintings that show images of a sheathed penis. Yes,
Speaker 1: so it's unclear whether or not these garments and decorations
Speaker 1: and sheaths on the penises of Egypt and Greece and
Speaker 1: India and Japan were for uh, contraception, as a barrier
Speaker 1: method or adornment. I guarantee they weren't probably thinking of
Speaker 1: the woman's comfort, No, especially when all yeah, the Japanese
Speaker 1: version of the penis sheath or condom was made of
Speaker 1: horn or Tortoiseshell, they didn't care about the lady's pleasure.
Speaker 1: That's just mind boggling, my painful sound me. I don know,
Speaker 1: no kidding. Um, so we know people started using condoms
Speaker 1: as a means to prevent pregnancy by the Roman era,
Speaker 1: I think, of course. Yeah, anytime it's sexty times stuff.
Speaker 1: They were leading the way totally. You know. Yeah, anybody's
Speaker 1: see Caligula can tell you that. Um. But then by
Speaker 1: the time Shakespeare rolls around, condoms are pretty common. Yeah
Speaker 1: if you count you know, wrapping linen around the penis
Speaker 1: and tying it in a little bow with a ribbon
Speaker 1: at the bottom. That's a condom back then, or stuffing
Speaker 1: something into the urethra and using a draw string, um, ribbon.
Speaker 1: But it's another way that they did things. I should
Speaker 1: post um photos of your facets of your face that
Speaker 1: I'm taking like throughout this episode. Yeah. Um. And well
Speaker 1: by the time Shakespeare's age, Uh, people are using condoms
Speaker 1: pretty frequently. And one of the things they're using it,
Speaker 1: probably the main thing they're using it for, is to
Speaker 1: prevent syphilis, because just like in World War Two, sailors
Speaker 1: to the New World came and contracted this new disease
Speaker 1: that was found only in North America at the time. Um,
Speaker 1: and or I should say the Western hemisphere. Uh. And uh,
Speaker 1: they brought it back, and they figured out after a
Speaker 1: little while like, oh wait a minute, I think it
Speaker 1: has to do with sex. So they started using condoms
Speaker 1: for a disease prevention through that. So this is a
Speaker 1: pretty big point here, right, Like by the the age
Speaker 1: of exploration, people understand that you can cover the penis
Speaker 1: to prevent pregnancy and to prevent disease. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: huge advancement in society. I guess totally. They were. They
Speaker 1: were on it. They still like rolled in their own
Speaker 1: feces and like she ever washed their hands or took
Speaker 1: a bath, but they knew how to prevent syphilis with
Speaker 1: a little something in the urethro the draw stream. That's right.
Speaker 1: By the mid seventeen hundreds, Tracy points out, they were
Speaker 1: starting to use um condoms made from animal membranes, animal
Speaker 1: guts basically, which if you they still have these today,
Speaker 1: if you use something called cheapskin, it is not cheap skin,
Speaker 1: but it is you know, cheap guts and testine lining. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can still buy those. I think they were
Speaker 1: about what like one percent of the total sales these days.
Speaker 1: And they recommend those only if you are like a
Speaker 1: monogamous couple. That's disease free and you're just using it
Speaker 1: to like not get pregnant because it's very thin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's it's porous, I believe enough for
Speaker 1: pathogens to pass through. Yeah. Like you don't want to
Speaker 1: use that if to prevent getting HIV? No, not smart? Um,
Speaker 1: Well you want to use is a rubber condom. That's right.
Speaker 1: Thank you Charles Goodyear, Yeah, who gave us not only
Speaker 1: rubber condoms, but um tires, uh, ebber hoses, rubber belts,
Speaker 1: pretty much anything that they made of rubber. You can
Speaker 1: thank Charles Goodyear for it because of his process of vulcanization,
Speaker 1: which is he added um sulfur and lead oxide to
Speaker 1: rubber from the Heavia Braziliens tree. Yeah, which they had
Speaker 1: been tapping that tree for a while to get this,
Speaker 1: you know latex, this liquid rubber but um. Yeah. Volcanization
Speaker 1: is where it became a thing that you could mask,
Speaker 1: you know, produced and it was safe and it was
Speaker 1: uh stronger and uh more elastic, so you know, less
Speaker 1: likely to break, but it was also thicker and rougher.
Speaker 1: You had to go to your doctor to be fitted
Speaker 1: for one of these condoms. The good the good part
Speaker 1: is you could wash and reuse it. It was basically
Speaker 1: like your your your condom. You probably wrote your name
Speaker 1: on it. I imagine if you got fitted though, in
Speaker 1: the doctor's office, that would have to be with an erection, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you remember the little reflex hammer? Yeah, I do. What
Speaker 1: does that to do this? That's how they did it, alright.
Speaker 1: So I guess back in the day, you would go
Speaker 1: to your doctor and get an direction, and he would
Speaker 1: fit you with a condom right made from vulcanized rubber,
Speaker 1: probably a bit of a uh investment at this time
Speaker 1: as a man, so I doubt if a lot of
Speaker 1: people were wearing him. Still, so again, imagine this is
Speaker 1: what I imagine. It basically probably looked a lot like um,
Speaker 1: a the nipple of a baby bottle. Yeah, sure, you know.
Speaker 1: I'll bet you there's somebody who collects old time e condoms,
Speaker 1: some rich dude who has like an old time e
Speaker 1: condom collection. Yeah, of course, Um, there's someone who collects
Speaker 1: everything old you know. Uh. So by apparently people were
Speaker 1: using this. This is eighty nine when charls could you
Speaker 1: come with volcanization? So we're talking like the mid to
Speaker 1: late nineteenth century. People are using these rubber condoms from
Speaker 1: usible rubber condoms, and then everybody patted on the back
Speaker 1: a guy named at Killian Killian's red beer inventor. Maybe no,
Speaker 1: it's possible. Um. He's more famously known, however, for um
Speaker 1: creating a process of making condoms directly from latex, which
Speaker 1: again is the sap of the rubber tree found in Brazil,
Speaker 1: West Africa, now Southeast Asia. Now UM. And he would
Speaker 1: take these glass molds that where you could argue ballack
Speaker 1: in nature, you know, uh, and that he would dip
Speaker 1: it directly into latex. I think he did it with
Speaker 1: his hand like that. I'm just just initially he did.
Speaker 1: So he would dip these these molds or um forms
Speaker 1: right what they're called formers, just into latex and uh
Speaker 1: he would then vulcanize that, and what you had was
Speaker 1: a thinner, stronger, UM better I guess condom. Yeah, thinner
Speaker 1: and longer, which is like that's what you want out
Speaker 1: of a condom because you want to have the sensation intact,
Speaker 1: but you want to be safe and also had a
Speaker 1: longer shelf life, and all of a sudden, latex was
Speaker 1: the way to go. Yeah, No, it's all condoms worldwide
Speaker 1: are latex. And that's a lot of condoms, as we'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's some numbers. Should we should we talk about nicknames
Speaker 1: or not? This seems a little silly to me. I
Speaker 1: thought it was silly too. Let's skip it then, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe we should just drop them in occasionally. Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: so people know because it's in here, so it's legit,
Speaker 1: right instead of condoms, will say jimmy hat. Okay, further
Speaker 1: chilly and came up with the latex Jimmy hat. Right. Uh,
Speaker 1: I guess if you don't know what a condom is
Speaker 1: at all, we should go ahead and say it is
Speaker 1: h a tube. It's a bag like tube that the
Speaker 1: male penis fits in, open on one end, obviously, and
Speaker 1: closed on the other. There's a little reservoir tip to
Speaker 1: collect the semen um supposedly, and um, it's got a
Speaker 1: little uh ring around the open end, a thin rim
Speaker 1: that you uh that you roll down upon the penis.
Speaker 1: And that is a condom and it it basically it
Speaker 1: blocks fluids from touching each other, which is how you
Speaker 1: get pregnant and how you get disease. Keeps all those
Speaker 1: fluids separate right the the form of this. The basic
Speaker 1: concept of the condom hasn't changed much over the eons,
Speaker 1: but just these little advances and technology like making them latex.
Speaker 1: Late tex is not porous, yes, Um, the only way
Speaker 1: something's going to get through is if there's some sort
Speaker 1: of damage to it or something like that. Um, the
Speaker 1: condoms the same what you just described as generally been
Speaker 1: in use for hundreds or thousands of years. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a barrier method. Um. These days there are I
Speaker 1: don't think we should talk about all those standards because
Speaker 1: my eyes started to water a little bit when I
Speaker 1: was eating all those with the length, the width, and
Speaker 1: the thickness. No, no no, we should talk about that. But
Speaker 1: later on all the standards when it was just like
Speaker 1: really international codes. There are international codes governing how they're made. Well,
Speaker 1: which is good. I'm not knocking that, sure, it's just
Speaker 1: not exciting. Um. So yeah, these days, the length they
Speaker 1: are at least six point three inches hundred and sixty millimeters.
Speaker 1: Well you did the conversion. Well I think you kind
Speaker 1: of have to say an inches, don't you. But have
Speaker 1: you noticed that how stuff works? Articles have gone metric? Yeah,
Speaker 1: now it's metric. The meat one, the live ground meat
Speaker 1: one both in in metric. All right, well, I don't
Speaker 1: know what to say about that. What about the width?
Speaker 1: What is the width of econom win lead flat fifty
Speaker 1: two millimeters which I did not convert to inches. The
Speaker 1: thickness is point zero seven millimeters. That's that's very thin, which,
Speaker 1: like we said, that's what you want out of a condom.
Speaker 1: You want something strong, but you don't want to ruin
Speaker 1: the sexual experience by wearing a rubber glove of you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, rubber glove to just and keep
Speaker 1: the rubber gloves on your hands, that's right. They powder
Speaker 1: these things with things like silica and corn starch and
Speaker 1: magnesium carbonate to keep the latex from sticking to itself
Speaker 1: in packaging, or they can come loobed up with either
Speaker 1: regular lube or made from silicone, or spermocidal lube, which
Speaker 1: this is good to know now that I'm married, but
Speaker 1: I was shown it on this back then. Apparently the
Speaker 1: spermocidal lubricants can make things worse, specifically non oxid all nine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It says that they found that when used with a condom,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really do much to kill sperm, and even worse,
Speaker 1: it can cause vaginal irritation, which can lead to easier
Speaker 1: disease transmission. Yeah, so that's apparently not a good thing
Speaker 1: to use non oxid all nine on your condoms. Very
Speaker 1: good to know. And that's not knocking in nine because
Speaker 1: think that's what's also you used outside of a condom, right,
Speaker 1: as as supermocidal. Right, so it's more affective there, I guess.
Speaker 1: How about manufacturing a condom, chuck it all. It all starts, um,
Speaker 1: either in the forests of Brazil, Southeast Asia, or West Africa,
Speaker 1: which is where you'll find the rubber tree, which is
Speaker 1: still to this date where latex comes from, unless it's
Speaker 1: synthetic latex of course. But let's say you're you're going
Speaker 1: the natural route, and um, you go to Brazil and
Speaker 1: get you some SAP, which again sap from uh latex
Speaker 1: or rubber tree is latex. Okay, so you get that,
Speaker 1: you take it back to your factory, right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Maybe in Brazil, maybe in Thailand, who knows, is that
Speaker 1: what they make these? Okay? I think they make them
Speaker 1: pretty close to the rubber plantations. All the pictures in
Speaker 1: this article are in like Thailand or Brazil or whatever.
Speaker 1: And that's where you're gonna find rubber trees. Um, well
Speaker 1: it doesn't only pane latex. You're gonna probably have some
Speaker 1: other ingredients in your bucket there of of sap, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you added along the way. Yeah, antifungal and antibacterial compounds.
Speaker 1: You want to keep the things clean. Zincos side, which
Speaker 1: is accelerates the vulcanization process. Uh, stabilizers like potassium laurate, UM,
Speaker 1: sulfur maybe which is another vulcanizing agent, ammonia antiquagulant. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Yeah, it keeps things from coagulating really,
Speaker 1: and uh, other pigments and preservatives too, you know, because
Speaker 1: you wanted to have that lovely fleshy look in strawberry flavoring.
Speaker 1: Well we'll get to that too. Um. So these add
Speaker 1: to the shelf life. Um. They make it harder to
Speaker 1: break down because rubbers biodegradable naturally, and you don't want
Speaker 1: it to break down. That's what happened the old day's
Speaker 1: when the easies lubes, the natural rubber would just break down.
Speaker 1: Your kind of wasn't worth much for long, right, Um
Speaker 1: and Tracy points that this is a good reason why
Speaker 1: you never want to throw a condom used or otherwise
Speaker 1: in a toilet. That's not how you throw a condom away,
Speaker 1: because it doesn't break down. It's just gonna gum things up.
Speaker 1: It's gonna catch all the hair and toilet paper and
Speaker 1: all that stuff and grow bigger and bigger and just
Speaker 1: basically become this big giant condom damn in your sewer pipe.
Speaker 1: That's right. So what do you do? Uh? You um
Speaker 1: wrap it in tissue paper. She suggests wrap that tissue
Speaker 1: paper in foil, put the foil in a five millimeter
Speaker 1: thick flat garbage bag, and bury it in your yard.
Speaker 1: That's how you properly dispose of a used condom. That's
Speaker 1: not true, but she does recommend the tissue and the
Speaker 1: waste basket. Yeah, just not the toilet, or if you're
Speaker 1: in New York City, just on the street or sidewalk,
Speaker 1: just fine, in the back of your cab. Have you
Speaker 1: ever noticed all the condoms one, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: them out there. It's just it's a thing. It's definitely
Speaker 1: a thing. If you live in New York you know
Speaker 1: about it, or you point the tiles or something. I
Speaker 1: just don't get it, Like, are these people having sex
Speaker 1: in the street? Throw them out the apartment. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. That's gross, I know. Could you
Speaker 1: imagine walking down the sidewalk after a nice dinner. Alright,
Speaker 1: So you've got the liquid latex goes in the vats,
Speaker 1: and then you've got the formers, which have been around
Speaker 1: for a while, and they are glass or ceramic molds
Speaker 1: of a penis, and they're on a conveyor belt. Dip
Speaker 1: it into the bat, get it, turn it and circle
Speaker 1: to get a nice even coating and dry it out,
Speaker 1: and then maybe a second or third dip to make
Speaker 1: sure it's sticking off right, and then it's into the
Speaker 1: tunnel oven for vulcanization. It has all of those, um,
Speaker 1: those the zinc oxide and the sulfur in it to
Speaker 1: help it vulcanize, so when it's exposed to heat, it
Speaker 1: becomes stronger, that's right, right, Um. And then after that
Speaker 1: I found this a little unsettling, Yeah, because I just
Speaker 1: always thought of tondos it's like untouched. It's like a
Speaker 1: brand new newspaper, like you could deliver a baby with it,
Speaker 1: you know. Um. But apparently after vulcanizing, the condoms are
Speaker 1: taken off of the formers, right, Um, and they are washed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're so the condom you're you're you're using has been
Speaker 1: washed before. I just to find it odd. I guess
Speaker 1: probably mechanically washed, right, Yeah, it says a washing machine
Speaker 1: um and invest to remove odor, pathogens and allergen. So
Speaker 1: it's good that they're doing this. But I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I kind of thought it was just like you know,
Speaker 1: it was made and packaged immediately and then it goes
Speaker 1: on your body, right exactly, Not quite, so you you
Speaker 1: wash it. And then there's quality testing, which is a
Speaker 1: lot of pretty cool stuff. There's some there's some cool
Speaker 1: quality tests. If you ask me, well, let's get into it, then, well,
Speaker 1: there's a standard called zipping, popping, rolling, and other condom testing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you're testing for is you want to prevent three
Speaker 1: things that make a condom uh ineffective. Breaking the condom
Speaker 1: not good, slipping off definitely not good. In leaking. None
Speaker 1: of these are good because they are uh you know,
Speaker 1: they're not preventing the one thing or two things that
Speaker 1: you're trying to do, which is either pregnancy or some
Speaker 1: sort of socially transmitted infection. Not you notice that she's
Speaker 1: not STD anymore. It's s t I. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: When did that happen? Maybe she just made the change herself,
Speaker 1: you think, No, I think I think it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: because maybe disease doesn't quite scientifically capture all. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that's so. Yeah, I don't know when that happened, but
Speaker 1: I'll bet it is fairly recent. Um. So, one of
Speaker 1: the two tests that they're really looking at is you
Speaker 1: don't want it to break and you don't want it
Speaker 1: to leak, right, Yeah, So they test the condom's tentile strength. Basically,
Speaker 1: they just get a bunch of third graders in there
Speaker 1: and blow the condoms up and see how much volume
Speaker 1: it holds until it breaks. Right. Yeah, they're not third graders,
Speaker 1: but that's pretty much the long and short of it.
Speaker 1: They inflate them, they stretch them, um, they fill them
Speaker 1: with water and hang them up. Yeah. I guess these
Speaker 1: are the they're testing, um, either whole batches or selected
Speaker 1: condoms from the batch. And yeah, they hold filliple water
Speaker 1: and look at it. That's the that's the utter test.
Speaker 1: Is that what it's called? Okay, I just made it up,
Speaker 1: but I think it's good. I bet you that's what
Speaker 1: they call it. On the line and they're literally look
Speaker 1: at it or else, if they want to be slightly
Speaker 1: more scientific, they'll roll it along like water absorbent paper
Speaker 1: and see if there's any water um and there shouldn't
Speaker 1: be remember again, late text condoms don't have any kind
Speaker 1: of pores um. And then there's another leaked test, which
Speaker 1: is a lot more scientific or at least it's probably
Speaker 1: fun or to do. I wonder how many factories use
Speaker 1: this method, if it's such a supermodern or or what
Speaker 1: and it's suchis factories soon this there's also like third
Speaker 1: party companies that like make their money by testing condoms
Speaker 1: for factories or maybe as watch dog groups. That's true.
Speaker 1: So how does the electricity work? So there's a couple
Speaker 1: of different ones. There's one where they take condoms and
Speaker 1: they they they put them atop metal rods that have
Speaker 1: been dipped in conductive solution. Then they run a current
Speaker 1: through these metal rods and the the condoms being rubber,
Speaker 1: shouldn't be conductive. But if there's holes or tears or anything,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, the current will run through the condom
Speaker 1: and then they have a computer watch to see, you know,
Speaker 1: if any had a current run through them. Then the
Speaker 1: other one is where they turn the voltage up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a dry test, um, and they basically like
Speaker 1: run a current again through a bunch of condoms and
Speaker 1: if there's any holes or whatever, those condoms will like
Speaker 1: burn or melt stinks. Yeah, burn rubbers doesn't smell good. Um.
Speaker 1: So those are the main ways that they will test
Speaker 1: condoms to make sure that you're all good to go
Speaker 1: when it's go time. You know what I'm saying. Uh. Slippets, however,
Speaker 1: something they cannot test for because slippage, my friend, is
Speaker 1: up to you how you properly or improperly used the condom.
Speaker 1: Slippage is user error. Yeah, and I'm ashamed to say that.
Speaker 1: And we're about to go over the tin steps and
Speaker 1: how to properly use a condom. I didn't know about
Speaker 1: one of them, the circumcised step not well, I didn't
Speaker 1: know about that. Well it is it, Well, we'll get
Speaker 1: to it. Um. So Tracy says, a storage is where
Speaker 1: it starts. You got up to store it properly. So, uh,
Speaker 1: heat and light is not good. Wallets, pockets and glove compartments.
Speaker 1: In other words, everywhere teenage boys forced to store their
Speaker 1: condoms is not where you should store a condom. You
Speaker 1: know it's all bad. You want to keep it in
Speaker 1: a dry um just sort of room temperatures like atmosphere
Speaker 1: and not at the roller rink. Look at number two.
Speaker 1: You look at the package, make sure it's all you know, intact,
Speaker 1: it's not opened and as the expiration date, you know
Speaker 1: you're within that range. Yeah, and when you do open it,
Speaker 1: you want to open it carefully. You want to tear
Speaker 1: along the one side. Sometimes it was a notch. Tracy
Speaker 1: points out that you don't want to open it with
Speaker 1: your teeth or pointing fingernails. Yeah, you don't want open
Speaker 1: your teeth for a couple of reasons, but one of
Speaker 1: them is you don't want to break it right. Um,
Speaker 1: you want to make sure the condom is right side up.
Speaker 1: This is the one I didn't know. I didn't know
Speaker 1: there was the right side sure, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Oh well, Um, I just forty almost forty two years old.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that there was an up. And
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about but there is a way
Speaker 1: to tell um what's up and what's down. And the
Speaker 1: tip the reservoir should be pointing up unimpeded. I had
Speaker 1: no idea. That's the that's the top right. I'm just
Speaker 1: learning this. So you take that reservoir right and you
Speaker 1: um squeeze the air out of it, hold it shut,
Speaker 1: class bit shot with your fingers and put it over
Speaker 1: the tip of the penis. We're doing this. You realize this.
Speaker 1: We've suddenly become a sex side podcast. Yeah, you you
Speaker 1: missed though. If you are uncircumcised, you want to gently
Speaker 1: pull your foreskin back to relieve the glands, which is
Speaker 1: the tip of the penis. So you put the tip
Speaker 1: of the put the condom over the tip of the
Speaker 1: penis with the reservoir squeezed shut, and then you start
Speaker 1: to unroll it. Take a chuck, just number six. Um.
Speaker 1: She also pointed out if you don't have it right
Speaker 1: side up, it won't unroll correctly. That's why there is
Speaker 1: a top side and the downside, which now explains a lot. Um.
Speaker 1: Unroll the condom down the length of the penis all
Speaker 1: the way to the base. You gotta take it to
Speaker 1: the base. You want it. You want full protection here. Um. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: because if you look, if you use a condom perfectly,
Speaker 1: then we'll find out your chances of disease and pregnancy
Speaker 1: are virtually nil. Yeah, problems arises when you you know,
Speaker 1: you may be not roll it all the way down
Speaker 1: or accidentally get a testicle caught in there. Um, if
Speaker 1: you need lube, use a water based lube. You don't
Speaker 1: want to make the mistake of using like vaseline. I
Speaker 1: guess I should say petroleum jelly or baby oil or
Speaker 1: lotions or anything like that, anything that could. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: all oil based, and that's gonna not do you any
Speaker 1: favors in the reliability department. Right, you want it to
Speaker 1: be water based lubricant, that's right. But she also points
Speaker 1: out that you using extra lubricant is effective in preventing
Speaker 1: breakage during um anal penetration, but in vaginal penetration it
Speaker 1: can actually increase the likelihood of breakage of the condom.
Speaker 1: I did not know that. I did not know that either.
Speaker 1: So we're learning right along with you people. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad to want to you sees anymore? Being married
Speaker 1: is great. Uh so after the male ejaculates, this is
Speaker 1: post coital ejaculation, you hope. Yeah, that's true. Um, you
Speaker 1: want to hold the rim of the condom to keep
Speaker 1: it from slipping off when you um, exit the vagina
Speaker 1: and withdraw the penis. Uh. And and before the erection
Speaker 1: is lost. You don't want to have the condom on
Speaker 1: lose your erection while you're still in mid penetration. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then you want to run outdoors to begin the
Speaker 1: disposal process, which as we sat into the yard, right,
Speaker 1: that's right, remove the condom, wrap it in a tissue,
Speaker 1: put it in a garbage can, and don't reuse it.
Speaker 1: No matter what your friend says, don't reuse it, and
Speaker 1: don't wear two of them. Yeah, a lot of people
Speaker 1: have latex allergies. Late condoms are latex, So some people say, well,
Speaker 1: late text works the best. I'll just use um a
Speaker 1: sheep skin membrane condom over my penis and then put
Speaker 1: a late text one over that. Apparently that is basically
Speaker 1: just really upping the risk of breakage of both. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Or if you think you know two is better than one,
Speaker 1: I don't know where this person and has been. That's
Speaker 1: just not smart. You should probably not be with that person.
Speaker 1: If you're thinking about were two condoms, just walk away
Speaker 1: from the bowling alley and go home or the roller
Speaker 1: rink again. Uh. And Tracy also points out for our
Speaker 1: younger listeners. Condoms break more often if they're blown up
Speaker 1: or filled with water before use, So don't use it
Speaker 1: as a toy and then use it as a you know,
Speaker 1: disease preventer, right and if it breaks, stop what you're doing,
Speaker 1: get a new one. Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: big one, because you don't want to be like, oh
Speaker 1: well I went through the first couple of steps doing it,
Speaker 1: it was fine. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, if you're
Speaker 1: serious about this, then what you're trying to do is
Speaker 1: prevent pregnancy or infection. You're gonna want to replace it
Speaker 1: like it's worth if you used it in the first place,
Speaker 1: then you might as well stop for a second and
Speaker 1: another one. All right, Um, don't be a jerk. I
Speaker 1: guess that's what you're saying. You're trying to prevent, like
Speaker 1: you said, pregnancy, most people are when they use condoms
Speaker 1: or um, more than thirty types of viruses or bacterial
Speaker 1: infections or parasites. Right. Yeah, sex is dirty business. It
Speaker 1: certainly can be. I think this proves that, um, there
Speaker 1: is a god. All right, So you know, all those
Speaker 1: diseases in bacteria for the most part, do we need
Speaker 1: to go over those sure, chlamydia, uh, genital herpes, genital warts, gnarrhea,
Speaker 1: hepatitis B, HIV of course, pubic lice, um, syphilis, trick omniasis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeast infections, these and many more can all be yours
Speaker 1: if you don't use a condom and you sleep with
Speaker 1: somebody who has any of them. Yes, and genital warts
Speaker 1: and herpes and pubic lice and a few other s.
Speaker 1: T i s can still be yours even if you
Speaker 1: do use a condom, because they are not passed through
Speaker 1: the fluids. They are passed through skin and hair and
Speaker 1: other stuff down there in that area. Yeah. Um, so chuck,
Speaker 1: how effective our condoms, like you said, when when you
Speaker 1: use them correctly, they work, like they've been proven to work.
Speaker 1: Like we have come to the pinnacle of mail um
Speaker 1: prophylaxis with the latex condom, Like it totally works. If
Speaker 1: you use it correctly and you use it every time,
Speaker 1: you're going to be fine. Uh. And they know this
Speaker 1: by um by doing studies of specifically seroh discordant um couples,
Speaker 1: which means one couple as HIV and one person in
Speaker 1: the couple of HIV the other partner doesn't, And they
Speaker 1: found that people who used the condom correctly every time
Speaker 1: they had sex had pretty much a nil chance or
Speaker 1: z chance of UM contracting HIV by the end of
Speaker 1: this study. Yeah, that's a two year period of these couples,
Speaker 1: so that there's you know, a lot of sex going on.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just like, hey, you had sex one time
Speaker 1: and you didn't get HIV. That's great, right, So good
Speaker 1: good study from UNAIDS or un AIDS, which that makes sense, UNAIDS,
Speaker 1: like they're fighting AIDS, they should be called UNAIDS. Is
Speaker 1: this United Nation though? Um? And they found though that
Speaker 1: couples that that didn't use them all the time, just
Speaker 1: kind of here they're had a fourteen to twenty one
Speaker 1: percent chance of UM contracting HIV during the study. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and pregnancy prevention is pretty similar UM over the course
Speaker 1: of the year. And of course I don't see any
Speaker 1: ages or anything like that here. It just says a woman,
Speaker 1: but a woman using a condom of the course of
Speaker 1: the year, who uses it perfectly for every act of
Speaker 1: sexual intercourse with a man has only a three percent
Speaker 1: chance of becoming pregnant, So ninety seven effective. That's pretty good. Sure, Um,
Speaker 1: if you use a condom typically which is apparently not
Speaker 1: that great, not that well. Um, and you're a woman,
Speaker 1: you have twelve percent chance of an unplanned pregnancy. But
Speaker 1: both of those beat not using anything at all, which
Speaker 1: leads to an eight percent chance of getting pregnant over
Speaker 1: the course of a year just by having sex. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't say how many men or anything like that
Speaker 1: many trips to the roller rink this entails, so what
Speaker 1: year is it? So there's st a lot of roller
Speaker 1: rink sex going on. What got me started was the
Speaker 1: idea of like a condom like in your pocket, remember
Speaker 1: the condom ring in the genes or in your wallet
Speaker 1: or whatever. Just associate that with the roller rink and
Speaker 1: like kids with like half mustaches and like mullets and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So that's that's where the roller rink
Speaker 1: reference came from. All right. So, um, some folks say that,
Speaker 1: you know what, if you make condoms available to my teenager,
Speaker 1: it's gonna encourage them to have sex. Um. Studies suggest
Speaker 1: that is not the case. Um. This one study observed
Speaker 1: over four thousand teenagers over an eight year period, which
Speaker 1: is a pretty good study if you ask me. By
Speaker 1: the end of the study, all of the participants were
Speaker 1: sexually active, and the teenagers who use condoms during their
Speaker 1: first sexual encounter were not more likely to have more
Speaker 1: partners than those who did not, but the condom using
Speaker 1: teams were less likely to have been diagnosed with connoete
Speaker 1: or chlamydia. So this study at least points out that
Speaker 1: it's not gonna encourage promiscuity, but it will keep you
Speaker 1: from getting pregnant in disease. I think, um, being in
Speaker 1: your teens encourages promiscuity. Yeah, you know, And that's kind
Speaker 1: of the whole argument. It's like, are they going to
Speaker 1: do it anyway? And if they are, then make sure
Speaker 1: they have plenty of condoms. And other people say, well, no,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do it anyway, they just need to abstain,
Speaker 1: and condoms are like the devil's temptation. I'm ready for
Speaker 1: for humanity to evolve more in that realm. Like it
Speaker 1: made sense for for eighteen year old males to be
Speaker 1: at like their peak of sexual prowess and girls being
Speaker 1: able to get pregnant when they were fourteen, you know,
Speaker 1: three years ago, when we were living two thirty years old,
Speaker 1: it made sense. These days, it's just like a cruel joke. Well,
Speaker 1: you know. It's interesting is we're actually going the other direction,
Speaker 1: like puberty coming younger and younger. A the average boy
Speaker 1: enters puberty and I don't that this doesn't mean sexual maturation,
Speaker 1: but begins puberty at like age seven or eight. Now
Speaker 1: that's crazy. And see nowadays people are getting not everyone,
Speaker 1: but people are waiting longer in general to get married
Speaker 1: and have a family. And it's getting harder and harder,
Speaker 1: uh for older people to get pregnant much less. The
Speaker 1: man who was you know, starts to decline after eighteen
Speaker 1: years old. You get married in your mid thirties, it's like, sorry,
Speaker 1: you know, my best days were, We're wasted right well,
Speaker 1: which is ironic because by that time you can grow
Speaker 1: a decent mustache, I know, you know, all right, So, um,
Speaker 1: there's this whole thing associated with condom. State are a
Speaker 1: unique breed of product. You know, if you look at
Speaker 1: them as a commodity, as a retail product, then they
Speaker 1: should be the same as a candy or a toy
Speaker 1: or you know, what have you. But something that these um,
Speaker 1: these other products lack is what's called social marketing, which
Speaker 1: is what makes condoms virtually unique. There is a there's
Speaker 1: a great public interest in condoms being purchased and distributed
Speaker 1: and easily gotten by everybody in the world, whether it's
Speaker 1: for population control which is pretty sinister sounding, um or
Speaker 1: through disease prevention. But governments around the world invest heavily
Speaker 1: in condoms, and by doing that, they basically just buy
Speaker 1: a bunch of condoms and turn around and selimented discount. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called social marketing. And the ideas that if they
Speaker 1: don't want to make them free, although you know, there
Speaker 1: are plenty of places that give out condoms, um, but
Speaker 1: they want to make them very cheap for those who
Speaker 1: can't afford them, because the idea is that if you
Speaker 1: pay for something, you're more likely to use it. Uh,
Speaker 1: sort of like the co ed model. These kids who
Speaker 1: pay for their textbooks instead of just giving them textbooks,
Speaker 1: the more likely to use it. So, I don't know
Speaker 1: what I've made that connection, but it's sort of the
Speaker 1: same thing. Well it is, it's the exact same principle you, um,
Speaker 1: you have some sort of ownership over something you've paid for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Tracy said, the rule of thumb is that a
Speaker 1: year supply of condoms should cast no more than one
Speaker 1: percent of the target countries per capita gross national products.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's just Tracy saying that either. Well,
Speaker 1: now she didn't make that up. So um, there's uh,
Speaker 1: the other aspect of it. There's buy part of one
Speaker 1: part of social marketing is buying condoms and distributing them
Speaker 1: for cheap um. And this is like federal government, national
Speaker 1: government level stuff. Uh. And then the other side of
Speaker 1: it is educating the public. Yeah, you got to wear them, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you have to know how to wear them. We
Speaker 1: could probably get some federal funding for this episode if
Speaker 1: you ask a little kickback. You have to know how
Speaker 1: to wear them, you have to know what they do,
Speaker 1: you have to know why to wear why you should
Speaker 1: wear them. Um, you should be able to explain it
Speaker 1: in plain simple terms to anybody who who who is
Speaker 1: riding a bus that if they don't wear a condom,
Speaker 1: they can die, or their junk can fall off, or
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of terrible stuff that can happen to
Speaker 1: you if you don't wear a condom. Right, Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's been pretty successful in countries like Thailand where they
Speaker 1: have a big commercial sex industry. Um. In nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: nine they started a campaign for commercial sex workers to
Speaker 1: use condoms at the time, always use them and pretty
Speaker 1: amazing results. UM In nineteen eighty nine, before the campaign,
Speaker 1: fourteen percent of the sex workers had consistently used condoms.
Speaker 1: By just five years later used condoms and uh not. Coincidentally,
Speaker 1: UM S t I cases diagnosed among sex workers fell
Speaker 1: from four over four or a thousand per year to
Speaker 1: just under thirty thousand per year. That's a huge, huge
Speaker 1: drop off. Just use the condom, that's all you gotta do.
Speaker 1: And the rest of the world watch Thailand. Their jaws
Speaker 1: fell open, so they started buying condoms like crazy. So
Speaker 1: like in two thousand, for example, UM South Africa bought
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million condoms to million condoms. Botswana
Speaker 1: purchased twelve million UM four hundred and fifty million condoms
Speaker 1: in India And these are the places where you know
Speaker 1: they need to use condoms, like you need to use
Speaker 1: them everywhere, but places that are have places like Africa
Speaker 1: and in India are like in Thailand. Obviously you need
Speaker 1: to use the condoms. Why to prevent disease and to
Speaker 1: prevent pregnancy, right, but what I mean you you would
Speaker 1: want to do that anyway? Well, that's what I said.
Speaker 1: But places that are overpopulated and people are dying because
Speaker 1: they're starving, and where diseases ram in villages, it's a
Speaker 1: little more important than other places that would say. I
Speaker 1: think it's probably kind of a controversial statement though among
Speaker 1: people who don't feel like you should be using condoms.
Speaker 1: You know that that's government carrying out population control? H
Speaker 1: Is it? I don't know, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: on its face, yeah, it definitely is. The government's very
Speaker 1: interested in, like not having a starving population. In one
Speaker 1: way to do it's a control population. But is that
Speaker 1: a bad thing? Like? Do you if people are willing
Speaker 1: to use condoms when they have them handy, um, then
Speaker 1: you know, why wouldn't you want to provide that to them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing. I'll go defend that until
Speaker 1: my dying breath. Um. So this is um, this is
Speaker 1: a ton of condoms we're talking about. That was just
Speaker 1: two thousand, right, many tons of condoms. Right. Apparently the
Speaker 1: condom industry, which is just loving this social marketing stuff, um,
Speaker 1: is producing between eight and twelve billion condoms of a year. Right.
Speaker 1: Apparently we would need fifteen billion to effectively cover everybody
Speaker 1: for a year. Yeah, every everybody is sexually active, you
Speaker 1: would need fifteen billion condoms, so they're close, but not
Speaker 1: close enough. Right. That means everybody in the world does
Speaker 1: it more than twice a year, because there's like six
Speaker 1: billion people on the planet. Right. Uh well yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean if you want to average out like that, right,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people aren't. A lot of
Speaker 1: people are doing it more, right, but sure if you
Speaker 1: want to throw an average on it. Um. The thing
Speaker 1: is is that so we're we're short of condoms, which
Speaker 1: is mind boggling. There's only sixty factories on the planet
Speaker 1: making condoms for the whole world, So when you look
Speaker 1: at it like that, it's pretty impressive. But apparently the
Speaker 1: condom industry is stepping up the call and by is
Speaker 1: projected to have to produce twenty five billion condoms. Uh. First,
Speaker 1: that's a six billion dollar industry. That's good, But what's crazy,
Speaker 1: that's a six billion dollar industry. Los Angeles County from
Speaker 1: porn makes one six of the equivalent of the entire
Speaker 1: condom industries. Money in porn in just porn, yea, in
Speaker 1: just that one county. Yeah, see how everything is connected?
Speaker 1: I do uh. So here in the United States, the
Speaker 1: f d A controls something called good manufacturing practices UH
Speaker 1: rules and standards for making drugs and things like condoms.
Speaker 1: So the f d A is IS has standards. There
Speaker 1: are also international standards. The International Organization for Standardization UM.
Speaker 1: They have their own standards that cover these medical devices,
Speaker 1: and they have silly numbers attached to them, but that
Speaker 1: really means nothing to anyone, does it. Well? In case
Speaker 1: you ever wanted to know, I s O four oh
Speaker 1: seven four Colon two zero zero two is the international
Speaker 1: standard for condom manufacture and distribution. That's right. And we're
Speaker 1: talking about standards. We're talking about acceptable levels of condoms
Speaker 1: that are defective per batch UM credit. I would imagine
Speaker 1: the average consumers like zero. That'd be nice UM accreditation
Speaker 1: for labs that test these procedures material shelf life stability,
Speaker 1: they're just making sure all that is up to snuff UM.
Speaker 1: And again, as we said there, the the standards are
Speaker 1: in this manual called zapping, popping, rolling, and other condom
Speaker 1: testing tools that very repeating UM condoms used to be.
Speaker 1: They're a little more acceptable to buy these days. Shouldn't
Speaker 1: be embarrassed to walk into your grocery store by condoms,
Speaker 1: said the forty one year old. Exactly, But it's not
Speaker 1: that way for everyone. It's not that way for every
Speaker 1: group because they are taboo. UM. In some religions UM.
Speaker 1: Catholicism UH famously does not allow the use of contraception.
Speaker 1: Orthodox Judaism apparently Islam does allow it if you are
Speaker 1: married heterosexuals, hed heterosexuals, and you have reason to prevent pregnancy,
Speaker 1: and then UM. Conservative Christian groups have long promoted abstinence
Speaker 1: rather than the use of condoms, and sometimes even fought
Speaker 1: the education and distribution of condoms for reasons we said earlier,
Speaker 1: like they think it makes their children promiscuous and they
Speaker 1: will want to have sex because they now have this condom.
Speaker 1: That is the key to them wanting to have sex.
Speaker 1: And it's not to the government to carry out population
Speaker 1: control exactly. UM. In Nevada has been mandatory to use
Speaker 1: condoms if you are in a brothel, so highly regulated
Speaker 1: UM sex industry there, Nevada, Nevada, Nevada. Excuse me, So
Speaker 1: Josh who uses condoms? Uh, everybody who can get their
Speaker 1: hands on them apparently uses condoms. UM. The u N
Speaker 1: says that two thirds of the world has ready and
Speaker 1: available access, ready and easy access to condoms. Right, and
Speaker 1: they actually created a definition. I'd love the u N
Speaker 1: You know, ready and easy access to condoms mean you
Speaker 1: have to spend less than two hours a month buying condoms.
Speaker 1: So I guess like taking a bus into town or
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, if you live in the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere Africa, it might take a while to get
Speaker 1: a condom. So this distribution net of condoms needs to
Speaker 1: be pretty uh, pretty wide, pretty um woven, well woven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then um, you also don't want to pay more
Speaker 1: than one percent of a person's monthly take home pay
Speaker 1: wherever they live. That's right. So when the un IS
Speaker 1: in the world is trying to distribute these and make
Speaker 1: them available, those are the criteria they look for as
Speaker 1: far as like what they're going to charge people maybe
Speaker 1: in one of these less developed countries, right, Um, and
Speaker 1: they we found that because of efforts like this, condom
Speaker 1: use around the world has increased. Apparently, prior to the eighties, Um,
Speaker 1: evaluations of condom usage has just been like married couples.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why. Um, apparently things were there was
Speaker 1: maybe tawdry or something. Who knows, but UM. The Brits
Speaker 1: went ahead and did a survey in nineteen fifty and
Speaker 1: found that UM for their first sexual encounter of men
Speaker 1: and women used a condom by about sixty did. Right,
Speaker 1: so there's definite increasing condoms condom usage. UM. They found
Speaker 1: that people who live with their partners typically use condoms less. UM,
Speaker 1: people who makes the older you are, the less you
Speaker 1: would be, the less likely you would be to use condoms,
Speaker 1: probably again because you're in a long term monogamous for
Speaker 1: like and ship right Uh and then um, people with
Speaker 1: latex allergies tend to not use condoms. Yeah. And these
Speaker 1: were studies from Europe mainly, but I imagine it's pretty
Speaker 1: similar in other parts of the world. Yeah, but hearteningly
Speaker 1: people UM in Netherlands, France, Belgium, and Britain. They found
Speaker 1: that the more partners of person had, the more likely
Speaker 1: they were to use condoms. To use a Jimmy hat
Speaker 1: a French letter, French letter. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that one is, all right. There are female condoms UM
Speaker 1: that are fairly new. Um. When when do they come
Speaker 1: around Switzerland? Approved here in the United States? And and
Speaker 1: uh it is a UM. Paul yourthane sheath sort of
Speaker 1: like the male condom, except it's just it's got two rings,
Speaker 1: one on either end, one a little smaller on one end,
Speaker 1: and that it fits in the woman's vagina, and it's
Speaker 1: sort of is just like a reverse of what the
Speaker 1: male condom is. They some of the benefits as a
Speaker 1: woman can put this in um beforehand, whereas a man
Speaker 1: obviously has has to be go time, has to have
Speaker 1: the erect penis right exactly like the woman can insert
Speaker 1: this anytime anytime. UM. Well, I'm sure they are you know,
Speaker 1: recommendations for how long that you use this thing as well. Um.
Speaker 1: But it is another barrier method that protects against HIV
Speaker 1: and pregnancy and uh yep. Because it's poly ethane, you
Speaker 1: can use oil based lubricants y um. And also in
Speaker 1: places where it's difficult or impossible because of social norms
Speaker 1: for a woman to insist that the guy wear a condom. Um,
Speaker 1: this is very useful because it's it's given control of
Speaker 1: who uses the condom win to the woman. Um. It
Speaker 1: is more expensive, which is one of the disadvantages and
Speaker 1: um that could lead some people in developing nations to
Speaker 1: wash it and reuse it, which is not recommended UM
Speaker 1: and apparently in trials clinical trials it's slightly less effective
Speaker 1: at preventing pregnancy and s t I S and male condoms,
Speaker 1: but it's way, way, way better than nothing obviously. Um,
Speaker 1: what else do we have? We have spray on condoms, Yeah,
Speaker 1: sort of not yet there and they're still being toyed with. Apparently,
Speaker 1: this guy named I can't remember his first name. His
Speaker 1: last name is Krauss. He's a sex educator from Germany.
Speaker 1: UM and he apparently had trouble finding condoms that fit
Speaker 1: him when he was younger, a younger man. He's thirty. Now.
Speaker 1: I get the idea that he was small. Oh, I
Speaker 1: got the idea that the opposite idea. I don't know
Speaker 1: because later in the article he talked about being small
Speaker 1: and like I want to make condoms for smaller guys
Speaker 1: because oh I missed that part. Yeah. Um, well, it's
Speaker 1: funny new ideas to have a range of sizes, like
Speaker 1: six sizes. The markets wide open for small conds apparently
Speaker 1: tried and tried it a few years ago and like
Speaker 1: this continued him almost immediately because they didn't sell any
Speaker 1: condoms for the smaller man or something, right, Yeah, although
Speaker 1: magnum condoms like have seventeen percent of the market share,
Speaker 1: they're like fifteen percent bigger than normal condoms. Yeah and
Speaker 1: and crosses. Uh. His theory is that guys that are
Speaker 1: smaller don't want to walk into a store and buy
Speaker 1: the small condoms, so he wants to I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he's working on the spray on condom, but he's also
Speaker 1: working on different sizes that I think are a little
Speaker 1: more um. The packaging is a little less obvious, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like you don't walk up and by like
Speaker 1: the teeny leaning. Well, he originally, you know, I think
Speaker 1: he wants to make it a little more clandestine. He
Speaker 1: originally set up this website, which is pretty cool, um,
Speaker 1: where you can download this measuring tape that you print
Speaker 1: out and use, and then you enter in your dimensions
Speaker 1: in the website and it brings up all of the
Speaker 1: condoms for sail in Germany that are likeliest to fit
Speaker 1: you best. This is pretty cool. Yeah, but now he's
Speaker 1: created the spray on condom. Yeah. Here's how this thing works.
Speaker 1: You put your penis in a tube and it's sprays
Speaker 1: from many different directions the condom latex onto your penis,
Speaker 1: your erect penis and um, then it has to dry,
Speaker 1: which is one of the problems that it this is
Speaker 1: when it sprays, so some dudes are worried that that
Speaker 1: might ruin the mood. Um, some guys were a little
Speaker 1: worried about putting their penis in this tube period. And
Speaker 1: then um liquid latex takes about two to three minutes
Speaker 1: to vulcanize, and in order for people to buy these things,
Speaker 1: he thinks it's gonna have to be ready in like
Speaker 1: five to ten seconds. So because it's like you better
Speaker 1: learn how to juggle or something to like keep the
Speaker 1: interest going for those couple of minutes. Is that what
Speaker 1: does it? Juggling? Juggling or I don't know, maybe making
Speaker 1: an omelet. And then there are the anti rape condoms,
Speaker 1: which are controversial to say the least. A South African
Speaker 1: doctor came up with these and they are like the
Speaker 1: female condom, but it's also like, um, I hate to
Speaker 1: say it, but like the closest analogy is like a
Speaker 1: Chinese finger trap. Yeah, like that, once the potie goes in,
Speaker 1: there's these plastic teeth that hold it in place and
Speaker 1: only a doctor can remove this basically giant female condom
Speaker 1: that's now attached to your penis. And the reason she
Speaker 1: came up with this was because rape in South Africa
Speaker 1: is um out of control. Some survey from two thousand
Speaker 1: nine found that one in four South African men admit
Speaker 1: to raping a woman and that they think possibly one
Speaker 1: point four million women are raped in South Africa every year.
Speaker 1: That's the population of Phoenix. So this woman came up
Speaker 1: with this. It's basically like the female condom that will
Speaker 1: immediately inflict pain on the rapist. The woman can, I guess,
Speaker 1: get away, but the man stuck with this on right
Speaker 1: and he has to go to the emergency room where
Speaker 1: hopefully the police will be there to arrest him. Well,
Speaker 1: the woman doesn't necessarily get away, which is one of
Speaker 1: the pitfalls that she admits to. It could encourage a
Speaker 1: violence against the woman in the moment um, and another
Speaker 1: person from the c d c UH says that it's
Speaker 1: also a form of enslavement. It's um a constant reminder
Speaker 1: of a woman's vulnerability um and it gives them also
Speaker 1: a false sense of security. But the psychological trauma of
Speaker 1: the rape is still there. But at least you're gonna
Speaker 1: catch the guy, is the rationale. And um, when people
Speaker 1: say that have told her this is a medieval thing
Speaker 1: that you're coming up with, she says, so is rape.
Speaker 1: So put that in your pipe and smoke it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that thing is called the rape x are a
Speaker 1: p hyphen a x e. And I believe it's raybacks
Speaker 1: dot com maybe or something that takes you to the website.
Speaker 1: But if you type in ray backs into your search browser,
Speaker 1: that's gonna bring that up. What else, Chuck, I don't
Speaker 1: have anything else. You don't want to talk about? The
Speaker 1: goat condom. That's population control, man, all right, let's talk
Speaker 1: about it like we are goats. To some people, there's
Speaker 1: a something called an oh lore that um it's basically
Speaker 1: this impediment that hangs from the abdomen of a male
Speaker 1: goat that keeps him from Um, it's a barrier to
Speaker 1: prevent him from penetrating the female during intercourse, right, And
Speaker 1: they use this to control goat population so that they
Speaker 1: don't starves. Familiar, And it's not a you know, it's
Speaker 1: not something that goes on the penis. I think it's
Speaker 1: just a physical barrier that just like a the male
Speaker 1: goat chastity belt that the goat knocks into its Thanks
Speaker 1: thank God for that. Yeah, just it's good though I'm
Speaker 1: crack wise, but sure than starving goats. That is condoms.
Speaker 1: Well done, Well done to YouTube, not much giggling. I
Speaker 1: wonder how many times we said penis penis a bunch
Speaker 1: more than we ever have in a conversation. I would say,
Speaker 1: I would say that's probably fairly accurate. I wonder if
Speaker 1: we topped that Sara Lives gets use of penis, remember
Speaker 1: at the newdist camp. Oh yeah, with Kevin Nelon and
Speaker 1: Mike Myers, And that's great. Uh, let's see. If you
Speaker 1: want to know more about condoms, you can find this
Speaker 1: very thorough comprehensive article on the subject. By typing condom
Speaker 1: into the search part how stuff works dot com. You
Speaker 1: can also type in sex and reproduction and it'll bring
Speaker 1: up a lot of really good, well written, well researched
Speaker 1: articles that will probably answer a lot of questions you
Speaker 1: might have about that kind of thing. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we should start peppering these throughout. Do a little more.
Speaker 1: Set said here and there. Okay, that's good. Um, you well,
Speaker 1: since we said sex said, since Chuck said sex said,
Speaker 1: you know what that means? You know what that means.
Speaker 1: It's time for listener mail. All right, UM, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call this music experiment. Um, you guys are awesome. Been
Speaker 1: listening since about two thousand ten. Just listen to Why
Speaker 1: does music provoke emotion? I thought I would share an
Speaker 1: experiment that I did a few years ago. I came
Speaker 1: up with the idea of listening to my music in
Speaker 1: sequential order by year of release. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I don't have his name now I feel awful. Um.
Speaker 1: I started biting it up by five years, and each
Speaker 1: five year period took about one and a half to
Speaker 1: two weeks. So he's basically only listening to that era
Speaker 1: in order, one at a time, So like the fifth
Speaker 1: week of September ninety two, which never existed like that,
Speaker 1: you well, just in order, like I'm listening to the
Speaker 1: nineteen five these music for this week. So the whole thing,
Speaker 1: uh ended up taking about three and a half months,
Speaker 1: which is much longer than I planned. I'm a big
Speaker 1: music guy and I started at around pre nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1: I should note that while I did this, I did
Speaker 1: my best to isolate myself musically. What did listening to
Speaker 1: anything else that wasn't from that period that I was
Speaker 1: in that week. That's kind of cool. I ended up
Speaker 1: being one of the most rewarding experience I've had in
Speaker 1: a long time. Aside from noticing many new things and
Speaker 1: songs that I had listened to countless times before, I
Speaker 1: feel like I began forming a connection with the time
Speaker 1: period of the music I was listening to. Now. At times,
Speaker 1: I could almost feel the angst or even excitement of
Speaker 1: events long past, as if I had lived them, events
Speaker 1: that weren't necessarily mentioned or addressed in the songs themselves.
Speaker 1: For the time I was done, I felt like I
Speaker 1: had traveled through time. I had a strange connection with
Speaker 1: events I had never experienced except through the music that
Speaker 1: was popular at the time of those events. Many things
Speaker 1: that didn't make much sense to me musically, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden had a different significance. So thanks for the
Speaker 1: work guys. Definitely makes my drive to work a much
Speaker 1: more enjoyable. Thanks again, And I wish I had your name. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll read it if you send it in nice Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so sorry, Gary Urst, Billy or Johnny or Fred Cole
Speaker 1: cole um. I see, we don't want people's condom stories
Speaker 1: to Yeah, of course we do. It seems like a
Speaker 1: bad idea. I think it's a great idea. Well, then
Speaker 1: you ask for guys. We want your condom stories. Ladies,
Speaker 1: we want your condom stories. Okay, if you live in
Speaker 1: New York City and you can explain, that's a good
Speaker 1: one of the condoms on the street inside. Although what's
Speaker 1: there to explain really well, I mean where they come from.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're coming up from the sewer when Oh, that's
Speaker 1: a good idea. Maybe they are, or or maybe they're
Speaker 1: being tossed out of cabs. Maybe they're from the roller rink. Anyway,
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