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Speaker 1: Let's turn our attention now to a battle of political wills.

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Speaker 1: Alex Wayne is our White House sedator for Bloomberg News.

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Speaker 1: He can be followed on Twitter at A A Wayne

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Speaker 1: and he joins us from Washington, d C, home to

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg one and one oh five point seven h D two.

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Speaker 1: Alex Wayne begin by telling us the results of the

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Speaker 1: latest poll for who will win in the battleground state

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Speaker 1: of Ohio. Yeah, more bad news for Hillary Clinton today.

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics poll finds that she's down five points to

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Speaker 1: Trump in Ohio. That's quite a big swing from from

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Speaker 1: really just a month ago, and she had been leading

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Speaker 1: in Ohio. And it's of course probably I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's the most important battle ground. That's probably Florida,

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Speaker 1: and she can pick up the most votes in Florida,

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Speaker 1: but it's maybe second. Well. I think what's interesting about Ohio,

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Speaker 1: alex is that it comprises many different kinds of people.

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Speaker 1: If you look at if you look at race, if

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Speaker 1: you look at what people do, you've got anybody, you know,

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Speaker 1: from farmers to you know, inner city people to you know.

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Speaker 1: And I think as far as an important state to win,

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Speaker 1: it seems to me that if Donald Trump can somehow

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Speaker 1: if he gets a majority there, does it suggest perhaps

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Speaker 1: that he is capturing more of the middle than a

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Speaker 1: lot of people thought he could. You know, I looked

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Speaker 1: at Ohio's demographics a few weeks ago because I'm curious

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Speaker 1: about this myself, and it turns out it's an awfully

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Speaker 1: white state. It's wider than Georgia, for example. Um, so

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Speaker 1: I am not terribly surprised that Obama excuse me, that

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Speaker 1: Trump is doing better there than in other parts of

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Speaker 1: the country like Virginia, which is probably a more diverse state.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about the schedule that Hillary Clinton has set

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Speaker 1: for herself. Uh, perhaps after her recuperation from pneumonia, She's

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Speaker 1: back on the trail tomorrow on Thursday with a rally

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Speaker 1: in Greensboro, North Carolina. My old stomping grounds actually used

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Speaker 1: to work down there. Uh. And then I think we

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Speaker 1: can expect her to resume a pretty pretty ambitious schedule

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Speaker 1: of fundraising and retail politics and up to the election.

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Speaker 1: So what does the Bloomberg Politics team learned from its

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Speaker 1: its contacts inside Hillary Clinton's campaign? Was there a lesson

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Speaker 1: learned by them or was it oh well, no big deal.

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Speaker 1: So what people are making too much of this. I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen much remorse about the way they handled the

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Speaker 1: pneumonia announcement. UH, you know this, this is a campaign

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Speaker 1: and a candidate with a pension for secrecy. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's unfair to say, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're going to change the way they do things

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Speaker 1: just because they got punched on the nose by the

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Speaker 1: media or how they disclosed her illness. Tell us about

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Speaker 1: New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and his probe into

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Speaker 1: one of Donald Trump's operations, his charitable foundation one good

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Speaker 1: partisan which Hunt deserves another on Twitter? UM, I think,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's hard not to view this as

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Speaker 1: straight up payback for the investigations in the Clinton Foundation

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Speaker 1: by the Republican Congress. UH. He may have more to

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Speaker 1: work with and the Trump Foundation than Republicans doing the

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation, because there's really not any evidence that the

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation has not anything wrong, whereas, according to some

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Speaker 1: excellent reporting in the Washington Post, has been doing. The

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Speaker 1: Trump Foundation has probably violated the law a couple of

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Speaker 1: times through UH essentially a campaign donation to UH Florida's

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Speaker 1: Attorney general, which charities are not supposed to do. And

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Speaker 1: also Trump apparently used money from his charity to buy

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Speaker 1: a portrait of himself for himself. That's usually a no no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well can I ask you a question, But again, remind

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Speaker 1: us what the what the what was being investigated with

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Speaker 1: the Clinton Foundation, because my recollection is a certain extent.

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Speaker 1: The charge was that, for example, there were uh donors

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Speaker 1: who donated substantially the Clinton Foundation who later did business

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Speaker 1: with this did business whatever with the State Department. However

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Speaker 1: you say what they did and they were looking for approvals,

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Speaker 1: are looking for things to get done that got done,

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Speaker 1: and that was that Uh wasn't but that was not

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Speaker 1: the charge. But just remind us exactly what it was.

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Speaker 1: That it was not breaking the law, but somehow it

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Speaker 1: was under scrutiny. The allegations were that yes, uh donors,

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Speaker 1: particularly foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation, were in exchange

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Speaker 1: gaming access to the Secretary of State and getting the

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Speaker 1: State Department to help them with stuff. Uh. Really the

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Speaker 1: only case where there's any uh, there's any really legit

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Speaker 1: spoke behind that allegation. There was this uranium mining deal

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Speaker 1: in Russia where Bill Clinton got involved with the person

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Speaker 1: trying to secure the Russian deal, and the person gave

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Speaker 1: money to the Clinton Foundation, and he also got some

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Speaker 1: help from the State Department uh in that deal. I

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Speaker 1: it was reported a while back, and I don't remember

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Speaker 1: whether he succeeded in securing rights to minoranium in Russia

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Speaker 1: or whatever, but he did get both Bill Clinton's assistance

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Speaker 1: and some help from the State Department. The argument there

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Speaker 1: was that I believe the State Department said, our actions

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Speaker 1: on behalf this individual or or based on us interests,

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Speaker 1: not his contributions to the to the Clinton Foundation. So

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that the quid was ever proved,

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Speaker 1: and the quid pro quo, that is, I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know that we ever we ever established that he

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Speaker 1: gave money to the Clinton Foundation and as a result,

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Speaker 1: the State Department did something for him. There are lots

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Speaker 1: of examples of people at the Clinton Foundation asking the

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Speaker 1: State Department to do things for donors and then apparently

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Speaker 1: not getting them. So again, not a lot of evidence

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Speaker 1: that they've actually broken the law or even done anything

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Speaker 1: particularly wrong. Alex Wayne, thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us late us on the campaign trails, the race to

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Speaker 1: the White House, and in fact alex is White House

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Speaker 1: editor fort Bloomberg News based in Washington, d C. I'm

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