WEBVTT - Episode 296 w/ Shyne 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:03.560 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:17.920 and I heart radio and it's drink that's motherfucking podcast. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.400 He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green is your 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.360 boy in r E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.319 Up is d J e f N. Together they drink 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.000 it up with some of the biggest players in the 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:35.519 most professional unprofessional podcast. And your number one sort for 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:41.560 drunk drink is New year Z that time for Drink Champs. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:50.479 Drink Up, mother would it could be hopefully want to 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.839 see me? This is your boy and what up is 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:54.720 d J e f N? And this is Drink Champs. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:01:02.160 Right now we got velvet covers villain, so we're developing rock. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:06.240 We try to throw me off like I wasn't gonna 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:11.160 keep that first off. Let me just say something, man 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.320 sis to the left of us right now. Not only 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.600 was a person that came up, was honorable in the streets, 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:23.039 held it down, came and I believe this is the 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.600 first time we heard bad Boy gave a million dollar 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.200 deal and then I heard it was another million on 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.479 publishing this dude, I can't lie to you. I was there, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.800 I saw it He had one of the biggest buzzes 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.040 in New York City, and I would be wrong if 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.880 I say New York City, because he had one of 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:48.040 the biggest buzzes in the industry. People were looking for 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.480 a savior after Biggie Smalls, and this was the guy 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.960 people came into, invested into. He got into one of 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.840 the craziest incidents in New York City's history. He held 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.840 it down, held it down like a man, came home, 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.760 did it, didn't what he had to do, came home. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:12.560 Uh became a part of the government of Police, changed 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:16.280 his whole life around and every aspect of everything he did. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.760 He was frail with it and he's still being real 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.960 with it now. In case you don't know what we're 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:27.400 talking about, we talked about shine. Motherfucker. No pos We 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:33.320 just want motherfucker. You know what. I'll start with that. 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:41.000 I'll start with that that woman introduction umps. But let 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.679 me ask you about that. You know, we're all from 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:48.240 New York. We all got the story that recently uh 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:54.720 al Pole passed away, right, had his demise? Uh, what 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.960 did what did you feel about that? Because you know 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.200 you didn't name yourself after him at one point, you know, 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:07.040 that that's a very um ironic situation because obviously I 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:12.440 was faced with the same um circumstances that he was 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:18.400 faced with, and I actually anticipated my circumstances. If you 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:23.520 listen to the life on my first album, I got well, 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.000 I said, you know, um, you know I'll be out 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.639 in ten start over again. Um. But I couldn't do it. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.840 You wouldn't understand if you ain't been through it, the 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.000 rules to it. Couldn't break them death before the sign 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.880 until I meet Satan um. So the way I got 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:42.280 that name was a mixture of Edgar Allan Poe the 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:48.560 Pope and out Poe because I was dating a female 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.040 that was dating him, you know, popular female. She was 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:56.120 an executive in the industry. Um. And so she called 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.720 me that name because you know, when I was young, 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.720 when I was eighteen years old, I was um, you know, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.600 I had a lot of energy. It's really aggressive. I 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:09.040 had that Brooklyn aggression. So it's stranging. He's a halemn guy, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.240 you know, but I was flashy. I think that's that 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:15.480 beliezing to me. Us beliezings. There's a word that you call. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:19.320 You call it breaking. You know, we we really confident 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.359 and so I had that energy. Um. You know I 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.159 had the six hunted, I had the you know, the 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.400 double R. You had the double Lass as well, um, 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.960 And you know, it was just a lot with me. 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.040 It was a lot of flash, a lot of excitement. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:37.880 And she said, you know, I remind her of him. 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:42.159 But thankfully, UM, I was not like him, you know, 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.600 because I stuck to my honors and I stuck to 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.880 my integrity. And you know, you're not a man or 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.479 you're not a person of integrity until your face with 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.680 a decision that you have to make where your life 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.440 is on the line, when your freedom is on the line, 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.719 that's when you know who you are. And I always, 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.919 you know, pride of myself and having the utmost integrity, 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.400 utmost character, and everything that I ever wrapped about a 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.119 song about was was my gospel. It was the honest truth. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.240 And you know, I thank God that I didn't fail 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:19.839 myself and I didn't fail my community in Brooklyn and beliees. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.360 You know, when the time came for me to decide 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.280 whether or not I was gonna have integrity or honor, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.560 let's make some noise of that us. So we're gonna 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.479 go through your musical history first, right, all right, before 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.719 before I even get into this, how did you start rapping? 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:39.279 What was it? You know? Um, usually I take the 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:43.280 train and I walk. I'm thankful because you told me. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:51.240 For a lot of there was like you know, I 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.159 didn't even leave believe yet, so I could have got 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.040 a hotel right a head and then go to four 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.240 A lot of that because I'm here in Florida for 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:03.400 the Florida Trade Culture Expo. Because you know, I'm a 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:09.400 government official. I'm the Shadow Minister of Foreign the Fairs, Diaspora, FIRS, Culture, 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.440 Youth and Sports. Um, so that's why I'm hit. And 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.240 you know, I know we spoke the last time. I 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:21.960 promised you the next time world yea, yeah. So so 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.320 the way I started rapping, and I said all that 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.880 to say, I was driving and so you know I'm 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:32.360 listening to Barrington Leavy. That's my first question, that one. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:38.880 You know, Um, but even Barrington before Butchers Barrington is 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:43.479 like an institution. So so that's how I started rapping 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:48.120 the same way Cool Hurt hip hop. Cool Hurt created 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:54.479 hip hop. Yes, he's a Jamaican DJ that came to 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.520 the Bronze and started spinning record So that's why I 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:03.080 started rapping. You know, my name used to be Shaba Wow. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:08.560 That that's what he used to call me from Granny 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:13.880 Kid the Grammy kids, and so that was my idol, 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.080 you know. Um and I had the same baritone, same 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.600 heavy voice. So I I used to actually chat you know, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:26.600 I wanted to following the steps of Shoa and yeah, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:32.320 bounty killer Beanie. Those were the guy that was with 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.800 a guy right, you know what I mean in in 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.280 in the community that that I was raised. You know, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.200 they call it little Haiti now um. You know, but 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.360 that whole Flatbush Church Avenue, you know, all the way 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.240 up and down is you know, uh filled with people 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.920 from the Caribbean. So initially I wanted to be you know, 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.600 I wanted to chat um. And then I transitioned. I 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.960 transitioned into rat you know, but I wasn't. You know. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.880 Music saved my life, Bob Marley, you know I used 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:05.640 to you know, I got shot when I was young. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.600 I was in the streets defending myself. Um. Very violent 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.840 community is most inner city communities for African Americans and Latinos, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:21.160 and and you know, minorities grow up very violent, very predatory, 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.239 very killer, be killed and so you know My mom 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:31.280 was a single mother, laborer, you know, very stressed out 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.559 her only boy. So when I got shot, I said, listen, 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.560 you know, Mom, I promise I'm stay alive for you. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.920 You know, I won't get myself killed. I won't kill anyone. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.160 I'm gonna turn my life around. And so I started 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.760 staying in the house and just listening to music, and 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.600 Bob Marley used to calm me down, you know when 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.600 you listen to Bob Marley, and I used to say, man, 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.720 you know, this is the type of impact I want 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.880 to have on the world. Wasn't a particular record or 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.640 all Bama, all every thing. Johnny was a good man 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:06.120 everything right, um and and you know, so my passion 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:10.520 for music was always there, but I transitioned, like you know, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.920 I used to listen to guys like Terri Fabulous, you know, 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:18.160 um all the great guy, super Cat, Um, you know 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.400 Heavy D. You know he was the first to really 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:25.080 watch that. But Heavy D mix that what you're making. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.560 So it was an easy transition for me. You know, 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:35.719 I thought was cast on yeah the bridges over he 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:40.840 was because he so um. But but you know I 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.440 was really just in in a in a survival mode 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:49.160 of trying to divorce myself from the jungle because I 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.160 was a lion, you know, and and and you know, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.040 I would eat a lion, I would eat a gazelle. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.480 I would do whatever I had to do to survive, 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.600 and I would try to divorce myself from that um. 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.920 And that's how music, you know, saved my life because 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.640 and I was just listening to all music you know, 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.160 only built for Cuban links. You know, that's one of 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.120 the records that changed my life. You know, it was 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:14.480 written on you know, records like that because you know 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:19.600 what what Ray Kwon and ghost Face was saying, it's 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.679 the same thing Bob Molly was saying, you know, it's 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:28.320 it's social conscious music. Just in their dialect from Staton. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.800 Allen Nas was saying the same thing just in his 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:37.160 dialect from Queens. You know, Nas and Ray and Ghosts 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.520 they were thinkers, critical thinkers, and they were giving you 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:47.920 the landscape of you know, uh, inner city living, Priega 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:52.360 too before you were and all yeah, yeah, yeah, so 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.080 so you know, so those are some some of the 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.040 records that had an influence on my transition from you know, 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:02.880 wanting to chat to getting into hip hop because you know, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.120 Bob Marley inspired me to want to impact the world, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.880 and I was a leader in my community. I was 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.960 the guy on the block saying, listen, you know, don't 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.600 kill him. Come on, you know, why are you treating 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.320 him different than you treat me. I was always the 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.920 justice guy. You know why you're picking on the small guy? 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:22.959 Pick on me? All right, you don't want to pick 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.920 on me, Okay, leave him alone. I was the guy that, 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.120 you know, anybody trying to come and terrorize our block, 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.440 I'd hold down the fort. But at the same time, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.400 that's how I got the name Shane, because I'd be 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.079 on the block saying, listen, is this all we're gonna do? 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.760 I'm like Laurence Fishburn from Boys, and is this what 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.160 we're gonna through? We're just gonna you know, kill each 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.560 other and kill ourselves and be statistics. You know, let's 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.920 figure it out. You know, all of the North you know, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.640 created free rade Roles, created all these guys, you know, 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.200 all the be agents of destruction for our own community, 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.120 like all the stuff. Now as we're saying it's high, 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.400 I thought, you know, I was a reader, critical thinker, 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.400 and you know, like I said, I listened a lot 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.480 about Molly, and he was a critical thinker and he 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.000 had a message. And so you know, I was there 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.360 killer be killed. I was there destroying, you know, being destructive, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.680 and I had enough and I was like, man, this 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.320 can't be life. And that's when you start. Well, you know, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.480 I was immersed in music, but I made the transition. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.520 I was always a poet, you know. But again, I 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.360 wasn't a rapper, like, I wasn't out there battling. I 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.280 wasn't going to ciphers because I was busy trying to survive. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.000 I was busy making sure that I stayed alive and 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:40.400 trying to you know, divorce myself from that way of life. Yeah, 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.520 so how does this buzz start? Right? Because so so 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:50.679 I I got shot, you know, I got low because 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.640 you know, after you get shot, certain things happen and 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.280 then you gotta get low. And I graduated high school 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.560 as I promised my mom. And you know, when I 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:05.640 graduated high school, I got a bike, eighteen speed bike 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:11.839 for my cousin ron do to go deliver messages because 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:19.160 I promised my mom, no like messages, passages um. And 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.640 that's how I really that was the first text message. 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:28.000 That's how I got into back like fully because I 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:32.720 believe in a divine architect, intelligent designer. And the sacrifice 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.120 that I made to not sell cocaine, to not sell crap, 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.079 to divorce myself from the streets, and to just focus 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.720 myself on, you know, a path that will see my 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:51.800 mother have peace and security. UM really allowed for me 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.280 to just I just started coming up with rhymes. I 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:58.960 would like rhymes like on another level. I would deliver 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:03.040 packages to sew need to death chain two you know 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.160 UM for vending Universal and then I would you know, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:12.200 riding my bike, excuse me over the Brooklyn Bridge, and 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:13.800 by the time I got to the bottom of the 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:18.680 Brooklyn Bridge, I would just come up with rhymes. But 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.800 I was always a practical guy, never want to lie 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:26.520 to himself, never wanted to you know, fool himself. You know, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.600 I always said, you know, I want my music to 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.400 feel the way by Molly makes me feel. And I 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.120 was always able to identify who was great. I wanted 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.080 my music to feel to me the way Ray and 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.720 Ghosts and nas you know, and and and and Jay, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.840 reasonable that I can't forget, reasonable, doubt, beg ready to die, 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:51.160 chronic felt to me. And that's how I started feeling 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:55.200 about my music. I felt that, you know, I felt 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.000 that power, I felt that electricity, that frequency. So I 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:03.200 started chasing that down all the street teams. When I'll 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.400 be delivering my my packages, I started running everybody down. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.800 I started, you know, when I would go to Sony, 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.760 I try to make my way back to the mail room. 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.520 I go to Loud, I try to get to the 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:18.240 mar room. And I was so convinced that what I 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:23.200 had was powerful and I was gonna change the world. Um. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.080 One day I was getting my hair cut and I 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.720 always tell the story that you know, barbershops are the 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:32.640 place of truth. You know, um, wherever you are in 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.320 your life, you want to know the truth, asked your barber, 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:41.040 and that's the barber shop. They will uh pull no 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:45.000 punchers and have no restraints. UM. So I always right 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:49.040 for my barber. And you know, this Friday, a gentleman was, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.000 you know, leaving the barbershop, and I just you know, 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.600 ran down on him. And so listen, man, you're in 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:59.080 the music industry. This guy's name is Austin and uh 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:03.320 he said yeah, and I hit him with a sixteen 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:08.160 clip and he was like, you know, hold on, wait, right, here. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.280 You know, don't go anywhere you don't. He didn't know 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.960 what to do with himself. He called Don Pool, okay 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:19.280 from Inklint Chop House. You know, been around for ever 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.160 since br G, since Foxy Brown. And you know I 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.480 performed in front of Don Pool. Uh Imani Helly, you 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:31.160 know Imani Helly Productions, movie Guard, you know future Nicki 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:36.240 Minaj and I was it everybody that heard me, uh crazy. 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.680 So this was a few months after graduating from high school, 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.040 getting an eighteen speed bike to go deliver packages. The 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.880 girls looking at me nasty at the front desks because 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.840 I'd be wing there, you know, wet and you know, 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:55.440 no raincoat, no nothing. Because I remember, like they said, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.040 this is this guy I can't forget Clark Kent, Okay, 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:03.520 Clark Kent, Carl Kennis Brooklyn Okay, but I remember they 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.159 saying this guy, shine, it's the next biggie, It's the 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.600 next thing that's happening. But dude, was it a Phrae 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.720 style that started the buzz or was it just like 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.600 I'm saying you where it started it started it? Because 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.959 it started right there. I'll take you through it, you know. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:24.840 So once I got with Don poo and Manny. You know, 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.639 we just started going everywhere, moving around. You know, I 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:34.800 rapped for jay Z you know, um yeah, you know, 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.560 because you know Don Pool was it don Pool get money, 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.920 so you know he's everywhere. Um, you know Manny Mann 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.680 he was getting money too. Um. So we beat there, 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.520 you know, I beat it in my iceberg fits, you know, 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.960 you know. And so I remember we were at the 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:57.480 Metronome one Street Broadway and uh, you know, I ran 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.239 down on on Hove and I was like, know, you know, 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.439 you got your ratchet on him. You know that's what 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:09.639 we called, you know, those who are not informed. Um, 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.919 I'm telling you I'm the greatest thing you ever go ahead, 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.480 and if I'm not, you know, you could shoot me 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:21.200 in my foot. Oh my god. I was confidence right there, 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.760 so listen. So so so then I ran back. I 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:32.320 ran back. I ran back on him. And when he 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:40.480 was at State Street, and I never forget that day, 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.960 he came outside, um jumped in his robe. I told 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:45.479 him the story the other day when I saw him 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.000 at forty and um, that's what we were laughing about. 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:53.040 If you look at those fishes, and he was like, yes, side, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.560 oh when you gave me your music after after that 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.680 whole thing, give him the tape. Then I ran back 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:05.360 on him to get the verdict. So you know, yeah, yeah, yes, 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:06.920 I was all right, I'm gonna see you on top. 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.400 Try to sign me twice after that, three times after that. 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:16.080 You know, um, but we really changed things. Is God 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:21.480 bless the dead Chris Lighty. That's what transformed on everything 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.159 coach and you can check to see if I'm specialists 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:31.320 outside for me. Um, yeah, I got my guarded. Um, 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:36.840 so tris Slighty because so so this is August, I 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:43.680 meet Don Proo, Manny, we're moving around. Um, I think 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.760 I even wrapped on the phone for Puff because I 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:54.560 met Mark Pitts to what this is? Um, same time 0:19:54.600 --> 0:20:00.920 when you up trust me? So so so marm Pitts 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:05.080 put me on the phone with um with Puff and 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:06.840 Puffer is like, you know, how'd you go from Don, 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.080 Peter Mark Pitts because they're all in the state. Okay, 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.240 you know, don't pull used to manage big. You know, 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:17.000 we used to help Mark Pitts were big, and you 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.920 know he had Foxy Brown in all one circle from 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:24.200 the Howard days. And Puffer is like, you know, yeah, 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.720 you could rap, but he makes as can you make 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.359 hit records? I gotta teach you how to make some 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.800 hit records. And you know, he fell back. He wasn't like, 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.640 come to the office. I gotta sign him right, so 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:40.399 you know, kept going. I was like, all right, Chris Lady, 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:46.680 chrisl he called me to the Barrack Street des GM office, violator. 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.840 Can I just you know, I got a believe in 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:56.119 way now then, and I'm very m just been drinking 0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:00.880 this Milisian beer. We gotta you can't drink bout so yeah, yeah, 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:05.520 for you, you gotta let's course. Okay, let's go. Let's go. 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.680 But because I want you to finish your story, because 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.920 then I want to. I want to, Yes, I want 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.240 to explain to you. Yeah, in case you didn't know 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.040 how hot you were, like I want you to Finnish 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.159 and I I don't want to. Yeah. So so Chris l 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:27.800 like resting Priest christ Forge ahead, Yeah, this is this 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:32.040 is very interesting, Belican stoup best being believed best in 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:36.479 the world. So you know, I went to Chris Lady's office, 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.600 and you know, Chris Ldy was like, you know, um, 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.080 you know, I just got Snoop kid, you know, Swiss 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.520 his name is Swiss? Okay, um, yeah, you know, he 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:51.399 just gave me his beat tap, you know, pop it in. 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.440 You know, I'm want to hear what you know everybody 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:59.800 talking about. Uh. And he popped that tape in and 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.840 I went eight. But he was like, you know the 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.720 same thing like Don Proofs and the kid. Austin said, 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.480 you know, all right, hold on, let's go to your office. 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.680 Gonna sign you right now. You're not leaving Jam until 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:18.320 sign you. So I went to Leo's office and you know, 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.880 told me, listen, give him the business. So I gave 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:24.640 Lee all the business or if god, he was sitting 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:28.400 right there, you're just robbing. There's nothing on tape. Well, 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:32.440 I did the rohmmed over the beats for Chris, which 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:37.600 made him go crazy. He took the arm the same tape, 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:41.760 the Swiss beats tape, took it in Leo's office. Rohmmed 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:45.080 over those beats, and Leo was like, you know, I 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.040 have to sign you now. But when you're saying, you're 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:52.440 saying naturally, you're saying they're playing the beach and I 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:56.320 think Bobby Smurder, I think him and Bob and and 0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:00.639 and that was really what what said. Everything on right, 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.640 you know, because you know, like Lyon was serious, Leon 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.639 and Chris they wanted to sign me right there, right um, 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:08.600 and I think they might have even sent the paperwork 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:14.920 and then Puff flew me out to Beverly Hills, you know, 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.359 like maybe a few weeks later. Okay, So let me 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.200 stop it right there, let me stop Yeah, So let's 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.960 let's drink this, say about because I was gonna be 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.840 focused on a second because I was there, like not 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.720 there physically, but I was the person that was hearing 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:35.720 you know this this new dude after Sorry, that was yes, 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.760 that was seven when all of this was happening. So 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:42.480 Chris Ldy, Dawn pro Mark Pitch, that was seven because 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:47.840 when I when I met you, right when I met you, 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:51.360 even before I met you, there was this big buzzing 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.879 industry like it was like everyone has to sign this 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:58.440 guy shine. But so I'm Chris Ldy, God bless his soul. 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:02.720 In my humble opinion, it is the one that really, 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.720 you know, set it on right because I remember I 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:11.000 rap for Puff, I rap for Hove, you know, um, 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.560 Mark Pitts, Don Pool My, you know, Manny, they were 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.440 part of the team, you know, and and you know, 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:22.879 I think I might even wrapped for you know, but 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.960 once I wrapped for Chris Lighty and he went crazy 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:29.879 and they was ready to cut the check. And you know, 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:33.520 because contracts, that's when everybody he was on because there 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:35.520 was a batting war for you. Yes, but I'm just 0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:39.040 telling you. He I remember clearly we were at a point, 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:42.320 you know, like I said, I rap for Puff, you know, um, 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.639 you know, rap for Mark Pitts, wrap for for hose, 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.440 and you know we were we were coming along. But 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:51.080 you know, I didn't get the I didn't get the 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.040 I didn't get the deal, and you know, so I 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.159 was I might have been a little frustrated, like you know, 0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:01.240 what's going on right? All right? And by God's grace, 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:05.560 this was like November November and the November maybe beginning 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:09.879 of December, I went to rap for Chris and everything changed. 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.320 Like weeks later. I was in Los Angeles because Chris. 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.880 I think they were ready, like New York was ready. 0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:17.639 And I think when they when they're getting ready to 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.360 do deals, they called each other and talk crazy. Yeah, 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:26.040 like yeah, I think you think you're doing it right? Right? Yeah? 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.920 Do you know? I just take your head exactly? And 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.280 then Puff is like, hold up, that's the kid that 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:37.959 I don't know if this is outside of looking at 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:41.480 one of the llist buzzes I've ever seen, not in 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.920 just New York City, And at this time, New York 0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:45.840 City ran the world anyway, So if it was just 0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.320 New York, didn't, by god be it. But this was 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.200 throughout the whole industry. They was like this, dude, shine. 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.760 And then I'm hearing Loud Records had a deal for you. 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:58.320 I'm hearing that Jam had That was after Chris. Oh, 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.720 you know, God, let's sport of I'm trying to ask 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.480 you this. There was, there was, there was already does 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:10.560 everybody want to sign you again? You know? So there 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.119 was the buzz, but you know there was the buzz 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.920 that started with Mark Pitts excuse me, don Pool. You 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.280 know those are those are influences, you know, trend setters, 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.040 um you know, and this this conversations happening, you know, 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.680 ran down on Hove. You know, I spit for Puff, 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:32.080 I spit for d do you know I can't forget 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.399 him called spit for clauk Kent. So there's there's a 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:40.560 conversation happening, right But you know everybody's doing what they're doing. 0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:42.720 And so it's like, you know, but your name is 0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.800 rings no rush, but but but it's ringing when nobody 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.600 put the deal on the table until I went to 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.600 see Chris. And when I went to see Chris and 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.840 leyall and like I said, I think maybe they picked 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.159 up the phone and was like, oh, yeah, yeah, we 0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.840 got the answer. Yeah, let me actually eat. Did you 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.840 know about how Big is boss? Because that's what ye 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.560 just because he was in Miami, you like, I keep 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:09.960 you not like I've never to this day, like seeing 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:14.120 how much like and you was probably just entering the games. 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.320 You probably didn't really understand I was. I couldn't go 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.960 to no meeting and meet with no executive. What what 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.119 I'm saying? You heard, you know, I think and asking 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.160 me about it, and I'm like, what is this guy? 0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.560 You know? I remember I always wanted to know how 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.760 you started. I had almost lost my life. Yeah, I 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.359 told you I got shot. That's when I try to 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.520 divorce myself from that way of life in the name 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.879 of my mom. You know, a single mother, you know, 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.719 she's battling depression because you know she's gonna lose her 0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.440 only son to the streets. And I think that was 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.960 a blessing, you know, that was that was God's way 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.320 of you know, patting me on the back and tell 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.080 me keep going. And obviously, as you can see now, 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:56.040 I always had a bigger purpose because right now, you know, um, 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.720 everything that I wanted to do as far as Bob Marley, 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.800 I'm doing that in my own way from beliefs because 0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:08.200 I'm I'm leading the world from Belize. Uh. You know, 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.760 the way I treat my people, the way I try 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:14.359 to uplift my people, the way I advocate for all people, 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:19.400 for equality, for you know, education, for entrepreneurship, for women's rights, 0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.480 for healthcare, for housing, for land. Um. I used to 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.639 rap about the establishment and the powers that be, and 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.520 now I'm the the strongest voice in the House of 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:33.280 Representatives in Belize. And remember I have a global following, 0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.240 so I might not. You know, people always ask me 0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.040 how do I come up with my speeches, and I'm like, 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.160 there's no different than how it came up with my raps, 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:46.160 because my raps were not driven by a desire to 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:50.560 be famous. My raps was just a conversation. I was 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:52.920 just having a conversation. And I learned to do that 0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:58.200 from Bob Marley from Ray and Ghosts from Naas from Jay. 0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:05.120 You know, those were the real conversationalist big they were 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.600 having a conversation. They were talking to you, you know, 0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:14.320 Dre and Snoop tupop conversations. You know, Wu Tang conversation. 0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.240 So let me ask you, right, because when you first 0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.840 came out, it was no secret they was comparing you 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:24.120 the big Now what's that because of your voice tone? 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.480 Or what's that? What they're trying to make you feel? 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.920 The big shoes? No, no, no, I think you know, 0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.760 I have a barre toone, but you know it's it's 0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:35.520 been twenty three years and I still have the same bartone. 0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:41.280 And I think whenever a new artist, you know, um arrives, 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:46.000 people have to you know, it's like people been trying 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.800 to find another Michael Jordan's the NBA forever until you 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.440 got to realize that. You know, Lebron is just the 0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.480 first Lebron. That's never gonna be the mic, you know, 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:59.080 Steph Curry, it's the first step. You know, Kevin Durant 0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.240 is the first Kobe as well, Kevin, you know Kobe 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:06.560 drinking Kobe, great guy. I supposed to wrap supposed to 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:08.960 write a song for him on one of his albums. 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.040 So did that bother you that that comparison. No, because 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.680 I knew who I was. I knew I was a 0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:19.200 guy from the street. You know, I gotta say, I 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.800 gotta give recognition to my guy, noigil, No, you know 0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:26.320 not of course, of course yea um. And he used 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:30.360 to always come in the student like listen, forget what 0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.760 they're talking about. You know who you are, you from Brooklyn, 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:40.320 putting that work. Just have your conversation. They're gonna see that, 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:44.720 you know, Shina shine, you know, just talk that talk, 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.400 you know. And and of course you know, it takes 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.400 a while as a new artist to fill yourself around 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.160 the studio and you know, to to find your footing. 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:58.480 But you know, the comparisons drove me. That's what drove 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:04.440 me to to to be great, to have my own 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:08.400 greatness because because I didn't want to be Mike, I 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.920 didn't want to be Big. I wanted to be Shane. 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.720 Because the funny thing is we had Mike Geronimo sit 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.560 here right, and my Geronimo his whole career was compared 0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:20.080 to Naas so in his I don't remember that, yeah, 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:24.120 came out, but I'm glad you you brought NUS. I 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:28.080 love nas. That's my guy. He's a great guy, great 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:32.760 inspiration always you know when I was when I was incarcerated, 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:36.200 always reached out to me. You know if I ever 0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:39.120 needed anything. Now that I've ever asked anybody for anything, 0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:43.280 but you know, he was always there post incarceration, always 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:47.760 extended the hand to me. Great guy. Um they compared 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:50.040 now it's the rock can. Yeah. But what I'm saying 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:51.920 is this, you know what I'm just saying that that's 0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:55.600 but He's the point I'm trying to make was Mike 0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.160 Geronimo has said to us. He said he didn't like 0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.520 like it made him. That's not like you see how 0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.280 you just said you embraced it. No, No, what I 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.200 didn't say. I embraced that. I said it drove me. 0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.880 It drove me. It's not a matter if I didn't 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.960 like it. It's just a matter of you know, I 0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.400 gotta be great, and you know, sooner or later people 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:18.880 gonna appreciate my greatness and it's up to me to 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:24.360 make great music. That's a million trillion percent shine And 0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.920 if you listen to the Shot album, every flow is mine, 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:33.120 Every flow is different. There's no big flow, there's no 0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.480 pop flow, there's nobody flow. If you go back and 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.080 study my first album, and on every song, I have 0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:44.560 a different flow. I switched flows every four balls, right. 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.560 But that was a part of the drive, you know, 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.520 to be a master you know, words Smith, a master musician. 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:57.200 And you know, I definitely gotta thank Puff for that 0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.080 because that's what he was about making great music. And 0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.280 so it was great to have somebody like him to 0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:07.280 be like, man, that's trash. We put that out, you know, 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.320 that's how it would It wouldn't be. He wouldn't off 0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.280 and I don't even want to hear that, you know, 0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.920 like like records would leave that I was and he'd 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.440 be like, what are you doing? This is not it? 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:22.640 This is not you know, greatest rapper. They think they 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.960 want you to be the greatest rapper. Yeah, so you know, 0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:30.800 but when I when I did get the record, you know, 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:32.960 I never forget the record. You know, he gave me 0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:37.360 the beat two bad Boys, Bad Boys, because you know, 0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.520 we we we we skipped the whole a whole um, 0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.400 a whole journey of so when I got signed, I 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:52.080 think the comparisons came more from negative energy in the 0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.480 sense of I got there and I forgot why I 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.120 was there. Remember, I started by saying that Bob Marley 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:03.560 was my greatest expir and rain, Ghosts and nas. You know, 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:07.520 just that critical thinking, you know that, you know, analysis 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.520 of our circumstances and how we can forge our way 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.160 out of it. He's saying, when you got back to 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.160 bad but when I but when I signed and I 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:20.080 got you know those ms, it was about the six 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.160 hundred and you you lost this. It was about the 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.680 four Excuse me, it was about the four point six 0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.000 making sure it's not a four point because you know 0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:34.480 it's a big difference. It was you know, it was 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.120 about it was about it was but you know, Jay 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.120 was a hustler, That's what That's what he did. You know, 0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:44.359 I'm not Jay, you know, I'm I'm I'm Bob. I'm 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:48.320 not I'm Ghosts. You know, like I'm here, you know, 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.960 to lift my people up. But but but but you know, 0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.440 I'm from Brooklyn. I'm a young kid. I never had nothing. 0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:01.080 You know, Mom's four people's houses immigrant So when I 0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.880 got it, you gotta go up, you know. Um. And 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.680 so I got distracted because it's nothing wrong with having 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:11.640 it it's all about balance, you know. Um, but what 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.200 are you here for? And and I was there to 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.879 make great music. I was not there to just drive 0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:18.960 around in the six Yah. I let that make you 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.040 and that's what happened. So he gives you this beat, right, 0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.680 So but hold on that that that year is important 0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.240 because I think I think that's that's where the negative 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:32.680 energy came from. Because I wasn't spending the time focusing 0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:37.560 on my craft and honing my craft and developing my 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.840 skill set and becoming what I was destined to become. 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.000 I was, you know, chasing skirts, chasing those arm be 0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:50.880 deva superstars and and you know, for lack of a 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:55.680 better word, it's definitely a lack of a better word, 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:13.399 look ahead games. The second one, sos J said, that's 0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:18.920 just the best hold on shot because I'm gonna chine 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.200 for champagne, And joining was the champagne? What color from hell? 0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.320 We didn't even get to the We gonna do that 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:28.759 for shots, don't do that for shots. This faces I get, 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.480 I get like glimpses of the greatness that you do. 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.640 But I'm so busy right now. We got your back, 0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.840 we got I don't even know the so what you 0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.520 with you one, this is black own champagne. But when 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:42.279 you think, I said, Um, I'm gonna go with the 0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:43.800 goal because you know you gotta go. You guys go 0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:45.839 to go. Let's go with can we get a cup? Okay? 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.520 Because you know the black and gold is important because 0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.560 you know, my my grandmother was, um, what's what you 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.920 call a Gary Okay, that's an African set of people 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:59.160 that have been persecuted for hundreds of years. Um. And 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.640 they went from St. Vincent. They fought against the French, 0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:03.640 they fought against the English or the black and gold 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:05.960 the exile. And but this is the color of their 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:09.239 flat black and gold and and and this month is 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.560 their month. And believes we celebrate Garrett from the settlement day. 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:17.240 And my grandmother was from Honduras. She was born in Honduras, 0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.840 but because of racism, she hid the fact that she 0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.080 was a Garret Funa until she until she was about 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:26.279 to die. Um. Yeah, So it's very important colors to me. 0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:34.920 Black definitely also black kings to us. I just Puerto 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.239 Rican man. You know when I when I when I 0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.960 when I when I was, when I spent my time, 0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.920 you know, traveling through those correctional facilities. I received love 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:49.120 from from everyone. Yeah, that's that's one from from your bloods, 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.880 from Christ. That's one thing. Everybody loved me. Your journey 0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.160 um to the other side and we'll get there. But 0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:59.960 I remember a lot of people who was in there 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.560 with you and just will always tell me how honorable 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.360 dude you are and a man of your words. And 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.040 it's like I knew that from you from the streets. 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.759 But you have a story that, um, you could be 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:16.000 bitter man like, come on, let me find like you know, 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:19.920 for lack of a better term, like we said earlier, 0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.200 your child is actually kind of defending your boss. It 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:28.160 was absolutely defending. So in any other world, not just 0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.839 my boss, my brother, your brother. So in any other 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:34.879 world when you do that, you defend your brother who 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:39.880 is your boss, you actually get rewarded for that. There's 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:43.400 no downfall to that when it's a real world. But 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:47.120 this is the industry. This you had to quickly learn 0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.839 that because you, like you really had to go from 0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:56.440 from zero r real quick. You know, you know what 0:38:56.560 --> 0:39:00.040 happened with with with didn he with brother love. I 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:04.239 don't really blame that on him now as much as 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:08.600 I did then because I did go through a stage 0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:15.160 of bitterness human. Um. But in retrospect, you know, I 0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.719 blame it more on the lawyers that we're advising him 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:23.040 to separate the case than him, because his lawyers were there, 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:27.560 excuse me to secure a not guilty verdict by any means. 0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:33.160 He's a corporation, hundred million dollar corporation, and you know 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:36.640 they look at me as the enemy. Now you know, 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.480 this is this, this is how many years ago? This 0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:43.040 is twenty some years So Puff is still young relative, 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.960 so he's he's he's much younger than and you know, 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.080 it's a lot of pressure. You know, he's about to 0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:57.399 lose everything. I'm about to lose everything. I'm from that though, right, 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:01.360 you know, did he is a musician, you know, he's 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:06.200 a great musician, great executive, you know, great entertainer. But 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:12.000 he wasn't from that, so his response shouldn't be expected 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:17.239 to be my response. And then when your lawyers and 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.359 maybe other people are misleading you and misguiding you, Um, 0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:24.960 I think that's how everything you know fell apart. And 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:28.040 he said that to me, he said, you know, man, 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.400 you know, I'm sorry, man, you know I should have 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:35.640 never listened to those lawyers. And you know, I forgave him, um, 0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.520 but you know it was traumatic, so I would forgive 0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:40.920 him and then you know, you might hear me a 0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:45.120 few months later, you know, going in on him. Um. 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.640 But again that was that was that was that was 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:50.759 that was that was that was. That was over a 0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:54.279 decade ago, um. And I was in a different space then, 0:40:55.000 --> 0:41:00.200 and you know today, you know I'm all about you know, 0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:08.120 how I'm gonna impact the world, building relationships and forgiveness 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.879 as a part of that. I can't carry twenty three 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:15.400 years ago with me in a negative way. I carried 0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:20.279 twenty three years ago with me all the good from 0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.400 twenty three years bad. I take the wisdom out of it, 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:26.000 I take the lessons out of it, and I use 0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:29.439 it for the next twenty three years. How I'm gonna 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:33.239 master this chess board. That's hard, that's all. You know 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.640 what I always say. I always say, forgiveness is for you, 0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.279 like forgiveness is not for them. Like whether I forget 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.600 them or not, forgiveness makes me a better person. That's 0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.480 that's for me. So it's like with you know what Diddy, 0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:48.839 when I when did? He has supported me, He has 0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:52.520 been one of my biggest supporters. Him Fat joke. It 0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.520 was are my two guys. Like I said, Nas always 0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:59.040 reaches out when to see you in jail, see me 0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.800 in jail. I don't know. I don't know if you 0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:05.080 came to Belieze. I can't forget Buster rhymes, Buster rhymes 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.440 my brother. You know, I was just with him, him 0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.920 and Khalid Kalid is my guy to another supporter for 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:17.600 over a decade, you know. But Buster came to Beliefe 0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:22.279 when I got out, Um, you know, embraced me to 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:23.960 sign you to though, right, I think I think that 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.960 was he was just a brother, you know, gave me 0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.880 an automa when I when I you know, when he 0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.320 came to Belieze and just been my brother through and 0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:38.800 through uh and and Joe my brother. But did he 0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:42.360 in in in the most recent years after we reconcile, 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:44.960 you know, once I told him what I was doing, 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:49.160 and Beliefs became one of my biggest supporters, you know, 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:54.680 um brothers telling people through his platforms what I was doing, 0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:59.799 whether it's you know, financing what I was doing, um 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:03.480 and just giving me that moral support and that acknowledgement. 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:07.640 And then recently they had tried to after I got 0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:13.360 elected elected past legislation to disqualify, disqualify me from the 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:17.440 House of Representatives, to say that anybody that got convicted 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.359 of a crime can't be in the House of Representatives 0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:26.560 in another country. And and you know did he lost 0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.480 it when he heard that, and he got the revote people, 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.640 he got the publicist, he got everybody. He started talking 0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:36.960 to his legislative friends and was like, you know, we 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:40.600 can't let this happen. You know, this young man changed 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.360 his life. He's doing great things for his people, and 0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:46.400 you know, he's Black excellence, and I can't let this 0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:49.520 happen to my brother. And you know, so he was 0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.279 very instrumental. And you know when I came here and 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:56.760 meeting with the legislators in Georgia, you know, recognition highest 0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:00.600 regards to uh Rep. Erica Thomas and entire at Georgia 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:05.759 Entertainment Caucus. And you know Corey Jacobs as well. You know, 0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:11.240 so so puff, you know, to me, totally redeem himself. 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.800 And it's my brother and I love him, and so 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:17.480 I don't need to talk to him every day. I 0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:21.080 don't need a million dollars from him. You know, the 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:24.879 love and the support in the time of critical need 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.200 is worth more than a trillion dollars. And that's important 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:33.880 because when you expect money from people, when you expect 0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:37.960 material things from people, you will always be disappointed. What's 0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.719 it called and entitled it? I don't know if it's 0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.200 entitenment in my case, because you know, after ten years, 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.960 you know, uh that that's debatable. But what I'm saying 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:53.400 is I prefer to say expectations. Don't expect anything from anyone, 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:59.520 and appreciate everything that you know God sends your way, 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.040 and take it for what it is. You know, but 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:06.400 just hold yourself accountable, navigate your path and your journey, 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:10.640 and life would be much less complicated. So when there 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:16.080 are no expectations, whatever someone does contributes, it's just just 0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:19.799 enhances extra. But you know, I got what I got 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.919 going going, But that's still my brother. So my love 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.040 doesn't have a price tag on it. So I don't 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.040 love you because you know you sent them may back 0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.800 to police for me. I don't love you because you 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:33.880 know you gave me a million dollars for my campaign. 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.920 I love you because you're my brother, and if we 0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.520 talk every day, if we don't, you're my brother and 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:47.520 I love him. That's why. So um, let's get into 0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:50.920 it that that first record, the barings and leading, and 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:54.319 we need more. We need more black love, more Brown love. 0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.080 A lot of murders going on. I know, New York 0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:01.279 City is ridiculous. When I saw Bobby murder at at 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.840 Jay's event, at Holds event at the fort forty, you know, 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.239 I hugged him, you know, Meek Mill, that's my little 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.279 brother too. He's another little brother that has been their 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:15.320 champion in the Shine Legacy for years, you know. But 0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:19.399 I held you know, Bobby, and I told him, I said, man, listen, 0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:22.279 you have to learn from me. You know. We were 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.200 going back and forth. I think he did six I 0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.920 did tend So I said, listen, I'm the champion, you know, 0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.440 right and and but I don't want you to have 0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:32.600 the belt. I don't want you to go through what 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.200 I went through. I want you to be a messenger. 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.000 I want you to lift these kids up. I want 0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.520 you to save these kids lives. I don't want anybody 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:43.000 else in Brooklyn or anywhere else in New York or 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:46.400 Los Angeles or anywhere around the world or United States 0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.000 to go through what we went through. We gotta stop 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.160 the psycho. So so Black Loves and pol We gotta 0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:54.120 stop killing each other. They can't just be when you 0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:57.520 know they're kneeling on George Floyd's net, you know, we 0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:59.719 get up in arms. But then when we're blowing each 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:03.960 other's brains out, nobody says anything. You know, So So 0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:08.080 Black Love is in portant in brown love, and you 0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:12.320 know in the city love. So so Pop brings you 0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.240 this record, he brings you to beat so So ninety 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.320 eight was spent being reckless. That's how I got the 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:23.120 name Alpoka, you know, parking on the sidebak, you know, 0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:31.040 getting out the cards, just leaving running right, um you r. 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.120 I gotta yeah, I gotta. I gotta definitely acknowledge Mike. 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.960 You know, he's one of the first you know, uh 0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.640 icons that that I've ever met and hung out with. 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:50.000 You know, I gotta acknowledge you know Jackie Road Auntie Jackie, Yeah, yeah, 0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:53.799 and that's my aunt. Um So, I spent the whole 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.440 ninety eight, you know, chasing all these on be superstars 0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.760 who sold millions and millions of records and rating female 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:03.920 super the stars who sold millions of records. But I 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:06.839 didn't sell any records and I wasn't making any hip 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.840 records and I never forget. You know, at the M 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:15.920 I had an argument um with this on Be Diva, 0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:19.960 you know who sold millions of millions and millions of records. 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.480 You know, we we were you know, we had a thing, 0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:33.480 you know, um situation entanglement. You know who got to 0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:40.120 remember the house of representing this. But listen, anybody listen, 0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:46.640 so so listen, so so so I was, you know, 0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:52.680 I was seeing another rap female superstar, and so they 0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:56.680 got into an argument, and so to be Superstar you know, 0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:58.400 called me and cursed me out. And she was like, 0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:01.800 you know, you know, you ain't nothing. You know, you 0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.840 think you something, but you nothing. You ain't sell you 0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:10.919 ain't nah, she wasn't even born. Okay, I'm fishing. Okay, 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.000 I bugged. Don't get my life to that. She's probably yeah, 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:17.040 yeah that's my home girl. Okay, that's my home girl. 0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:21.720 Jimmy Choo, Yeah yeah I got that record. Notes said anyway, 0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:27.640 this um this this on B Diva Superstar told me listen, basically, 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.880 you're a bum. You yeah, you ain't selling no records. 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:34.800 She talking that talk. She don't care about the six hundred, 0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:37.880 She don't care about the platinum rolling and the goalsh. 0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:41.000 She don't care about the publishing because she's sold like 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:44.680 you know, ten million records, number one singles, number one 0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:48.719 album for hundred weeks on on on pop charts. Um 0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:51.720 so she's like, you're a bump. You ain't sell one record. 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:55.200 So when you sell a record, then you called me 0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:57.520 back since you want to stunt on me and had 0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:01.279 me looking crazy out here with these motive right yeah, yeah, 0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:05.840 no no, but again I was driven by that. But 0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:09.520 that's about Marry are No. I was. I was thinking 0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:13.520 that we gotta we gotta get in the middle now 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.399 that I mean, no, no, no, no, Mary's no. Mary 0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:21.320 montev ain't selling type of but Mary. Mary's great. But 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.640 Mary's like you know, that's like big system, you know, 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:29.080 but like she was before my time. Um but um 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.360 so yeah. So anyway, that was like that was like 0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.680 hitting me in the head with a law knocked the 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:38.359 wind out of me and and it put me back 0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:41.440 in focus because I was like, she's right, you know, 0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.160 I don't want to just be driving around in nice 0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:47.279 cars and you know, have all the Iceberg sweats and 0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:50.839 you know, have all the drip. I want to make 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:53.440 hit records. I want to be on top of the 0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:56.520 charts for a hundred weeks like her, but not just 0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:59.440 make hit records. Remember, I came here to impact the world. 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:02.319 So you know, I had a plan where I was gonna, 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:05.640 you know, become a little bit more conscious in my music, 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:11.000 you know, send different messages to lift my people. See 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:14.120 if I could do a hybrid of that, you know, 0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:19.280 nas Co Strayed by Molly type thing. You know, nas 0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.080 ended up doing an album with David Martin. So I was, 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:23.560 I was on the path and it was like, so 0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.120 what am I doing? So that Knoctor went out of 0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:29.239 me and got me back on my path. Um, both 0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:32.000 from an ego perspective and from spiritual perspective, because I 0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:35.680 was like, you know, she's talking crazy. I got to 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:40.560 show her that, you know, I could put out um. 0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:45.440 And so that's when I realized that the secret to 0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:52.200 success was did it. But the whole ninety eight I 0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:58.400 was dating his girlfriends. I can't tell you who, but 0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:01.560 that's how crazy I was. It sounds like a recipe 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:04.040 for disasters for your career. That is what I'm trying 0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:12.080 to sell you. He was out there the place so um. 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:16.279 So that's how off track I was that I was 0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:21.360 a worker, you know, trying to take the CEOs, you know, property, 0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:25.239 and well I shouldn't refer to women's property, but you 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:31.359 know the CEOs, you know entanglements because I was totally distracted, 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:36.000 totally you know, young, dumb and full of come and 0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:38.040 so I had to get back on track. So he 0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:42.600 wasn't even messing with messing with me, okay, because he 0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:44.320 knew what you would. He can't be mad at that. 0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:49.200 He was just like, man, you right. That's when I 0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.560 did the UM. I don't know if you listen to 0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:55.560 Mass album where I did the song start from Scratch, 0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.240 And initially that was if I can start from scratch 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.200 out the sign that f jam, hustle russell. A couple 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:07.080 of a million events changed it to you know, uh, 0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:09.399 now what am I saying Puff's the best man? Because 0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.600 me and Puff we were hugged up for that. You know, 0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:14.400 we got into the little rest of the match over that. 0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:17.719 No no, no, no no. Um. So that's where we 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:20.919 were at. So ninety nine came about and I was like, man, listen, 0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:25.400 Puff is the holy Grail. I'm not here to look cute. 0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:28.240 I'm here to sell records. I'm here to change the world. 0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:33.880 And you know that's when DMX was destroying things. You 0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:38.880 were destroying things. J Hard knocked life destroying things, and 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.520 you know bad Boy was you know, it was in 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.080 our turn. You know, we was in the bad um 0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:48.760 and so I knew Puff was still the Holy Grail 0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:51.279 because that's our life, is life in cycles. So that 0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:55.000 entire ninety nine, you know, I parked the six hundred, 0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:59.000 parked the Rover, and I just went everywhere. Puff went. 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:03.279 Hopped in the back of the Silver Navigator, and I 0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:07.040 was puff Shadow wherever he went on went, whatever he did, 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:11.160 I did all he brings you this beat, all in 0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:19.280 order to get the Holy Grail. So we're in Hampton's August. 0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:23.160 August is a special month for me. But before this, 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.879 we hit the I wouldn't say it was a home run, 0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:30.839 but it was a base hit and drove two people home. 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:34.600 So we scored some runs. We're sitting at home, sitting 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:37.800 at home, remix, and you gotta remember was that it 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:42.360 was that was total total. You gotta remember, the pressure 0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:48.520 is on everybody's like, who's this guy? He's not all that. 0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.200 He shouldn't have got a couple of million dollars and 0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.640 it's not a video for this, No, no, no. But 0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:56.960 what I'm saying is the record hit. You know what 0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.799 I need to do. Let it be understood. Bad boy 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:04.759 on this Brooklyn the a t They pumped this, that 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:08.640 was it right, Everybody was like okay. And Puff is 0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:12.839 the ultimate hater, which is great. He's an ultimate hayter 0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:17.400 because he's hating for the benefit of the good. So 0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:22.080 like he's like no, no, no, no. So when he 0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:26.759 says yes when sitting at home makes it out, it's 0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:30.560 because he thought it was great and and he's never wrong. 0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:36.439 Um So in August, we're in the Hamptons, he gives 0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:43.080 me the beat boom boom easy lp bo boom boo 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:47.800 boom boo boom bo boom boom boom boom, and again, 0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:53.640 the musical genius that he is, he says, this is it. 0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:57.920 Right here, I'm telling you, this is it. If you 0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:01.560 could do to this what you did to send that 0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:07.200 home and take it up a notch, you're gone right 0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:08.680 because you know he used to tell him me, listen, 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:12.719 you look better than ll You could wrap like Big 0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:18.120 and Nas and Jay you you know you you in 0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:21.279 the streets. You're crazy like Tupac you got it all. 0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:24.800 You're the total package. If you put all that together 0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:28.239 and you put that on this Bad Boys, it wasn't 0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.240 called Bad Boys that put put that on this record. 0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:35.680 You're gone. And then who's the guy that goes he's 0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:38.480 asking you, he's asking me that, And you knew exactly 0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:41.160 that one because that's the less that's an icon in 0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:44.280 my community. Right. So he saw again I give credit 0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:48.799 with credit is due. He quarterback that entire play. All 0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:52.560 I had to do was run, make it right and 0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:55.480 and died for the ball um. And that's how Bad 0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.840 Boys came about. You know, I went in, I knocked 0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:03.080 it out and the second verse was for Pup. I 0:57:03.120 --> 0:57:05.399 heard you wrote that fair that was for him. Things 0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:08.040 draggon on the floor, you know. But when Club New 0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:12.440 York happened, you know that adjusted the plan. But August 0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:18.240 nineteen is when I wrote Bad Boys. Yeah at um 0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:24.720 hit Yeah. Well in June, you know, I gotta recognize 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:28.200 phonk Master Flex as well. You know a job in 0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:31.720 Bombay Condors too. They was on it. But Flex, you 0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:35.960 know another guy that doesn't you know, he's not really 0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:38.640 on you unless he's on you. You know, you see 0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:41.080 him arguing with a lot of people some icons, you know. 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:44.360 So he's not one to really just you know, uh, 0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:47.600 play music just to play music. He gotta love he 0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:49.280 gotta love it. Yeah, he gotta love it and um 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:53.320 and he loved that record. And that record went. That 0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:56.120 was it, Like there was no there was no you know, 0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.840 is it gonna go? And went Flex played it like 0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:01.480 a hundred times and that was it. What made you 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:06.080 use him again was the other record that was half year. 0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:11.560 You know, when they sent the record to Barrington, they 0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.760 because Usha was supposed to be on Bonnie and Shine, 0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:19.760 but you got on. She was supposed to be on 0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:23.400 Bonnie and Shane and that's where Baronton levies On was 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:26.680 supposed to be on Bonnie and Shoe already wrote the 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:30.040 chorus and everything. Wow, but they put one over on me. 0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:33.560 But when it came back it was great. You know, 0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:37.000 who could I can't argue with my childhood hero, you know, 0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:39.800 but he was the confessors a fire to that happened, 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:43.320 you know. That was Mark Fitz and Jamaine Duprix two 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:47.000 thousand and I want to grant me for that. It 0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:51.560 makes a noise for that. Apsn't have that supples that 0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:57.600 have that in your intro to Gray that went on, Yes, 0:58:58.400 --> 0:59:01.120 holy holy boy a right, so I was My next 0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:03.040 question was Bonny and Shot. But I feel like we 0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:06.960 already established that, right, Alright, cool, don't forget. I can't 0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:09.960 believe I was nominated for Brandy for that too. Well, 0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:16.960 Carl Thomas Thomas, Okay, that's a big record. Okay, we're 0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:18.960 gonna come back to that. But look the song more 0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:23.760 or Less. That's Foxy Brown on there, right, that's produced 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:28.520 by Kanye West, who was just on your show. Check 0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:34.200 know that did not know that young Kanye West. I 0:59:34.320 --> 0:59:39.080 called John Man super early I think about it, sounds 0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:43.560 like a West I was there vision And wait a minute, 0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:46.760 because this is why this is two thousand No, this 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.760 is more or less came out well, you know what, 0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:52.600 More or Less came out of two thousand and four. 0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:59.000 But I recorded those records in two thousand one. I 0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:01.840 was in with Trout. I recorded The Godfather Buried the 1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:06.200 live album, all of it while I was on Because 1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:07.960 this is one because this is when I this is 1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:10.640 when I reached the holy grail. Like after my first album, 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:14.600 I've breached to a level where I didn't write raps anymore. 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:19.240 So literally, I was going from court to the studio 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:22.280 and I would just listen to the beat and I 1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:24.680 just go in the studio and just talk about my life. 1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:26.080 But why the record you had that you did on 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:28.360 the phone for the record for the record, and you know, 1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:31.120 I want to take this opportunity to um. You know, 1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:34.120 we should toast the fifty cents. You know, I really 1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:37.640 appreciate all of his success. Yeah, I appreciate all the 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:41.000 success that he's having as as a as an African American. 1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:45.360 You know, the longevity that he's having, the transition that 1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:48.600 he's made, you know, from you know, a Grammy Award 1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:52.680 winning you know, multi platinum selling grapher, you know, to 1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:57.160 a film producer. You know, he's an entertainment mogul um. 1:00:57.560 --> 1:01:00.320 You know, he's into the spirits as well. Just everything 1:01:00.400 --> 1:01:03.200 that he's doing. You know, I celebrate his success. And 1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:04.880 you know, he tried to sign me when I was 1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:07.160 away that record about you say that he tried to 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:08.640 sign me, and you know, I was just in a 1:01:08.720 --> 1:01:11.600 different place. I was in a place you know, I 1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:14.760 was you know, I was better. I was upset. You know, 1:01:14.880 --> 1:01:16.600 I had a lot of a lot of demons that 1:01:16.680 --> 1:01:19.560 I was fighting, and you know, I was just in 1:01:19.600 --> 1:01:22.600 a different space. I'm not in that space anymore. I'm 1:01:22.640 --> 1:01:24.520 in the space of healing and I'm in the space 1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:28.240 of celebrating people. You know, I'm not getting into other 1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:32.400 people's issues because that wasn't my issue. What was that 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:34.720 because he was friends were Yeah, it was my brother, 1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:36.360 you know, I came to see you or something like that. No, 1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:38.200 he's my brother. IRV was a great guy. But what 1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:41.240 I'm saying is because Earth came to see you opposed. 1:01:41.440 --> 1:01:43.280 It wasn't just because Earth came to see me. It's 1:01:43.360 --> 1:01:47.320 just you know, you know, certain things meant meant something 1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.240 to me, and I don't want to go down that 1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:53.840 route because again, that's not my issue, and you know, 1:01:54.720 --> 1:01:57.480 I don't have the details and it's just not my 1:01:58.200 --> 1:02:02.040 my thing. I was just going with my brother and 1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:05.840 is still my brother. But it's time to grow up. 1:02:06.080 --> 1:02:08.520 It's time involved. And I want to see all my 1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:13.080 brothers together getting money, you know, being productive and just 1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:15.600 having great lives. And we should live until we're seventy 1:02:15.640 --> 1:02:19.240 and eighty like the rock and roll guys, and you know, 1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:21.840 just have success. So so take me some noise for that. 1:02:24.640 --> 1:02:28.200 But that but that I need to know, but that 1:02:28.520 --> 1:02:32.200 he's not ready to move me into the ruck. But 1:02:32.480 --> 1:02:37.320 that was jail. Yeah, it was because alright, because because 1:02:37.400 --> 1:02:39.480 I was thinking it could have been recorded. He was 1:02:39.480 --> 1:02:42.000 in jail, all recorded over the phone prior to you 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:44.560 being in jail. But that's the I think that's one 1:02:44.600 --> 1:02:47.680 of the reasons I I failed when I came out, 1:02:48.760 --> 1:02:52.360 when I was released from incarceration. It's because it was 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:55.960 too much negative energy. You know. I was arguing with Puff, 1:02:56.880 --> 1:03:00.360 I was arguing with fifty. I was arguing with Ross. 1:03:00.440 --> 1:03:02.800 You know Chears, the Rick Ross as well. He's doing 1:03:02.920 --> 1:03:07.040 great things, entrepreneur mogul. He's buying a house just so 1:03:07.120 --> 1:03:09.640 you could drive by. I hope that he rented out 1:03:09.680 --> 1:03:12.320 for airbnb so we could generate some revenues. Dominate that 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:16.040 to please. But um, you know, Chears, the all you know, 1:03:16.280 --> 1:03:21.760 the rat mogul's you know that are enjoying success. That's 1:03:21.800 --> 1:03:24.960 what I want. You know. Then I was selfish. I 1:03:25.120 --> 1:03:30.040 was thinking about me, and I was repeating something that 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:32.920 was so destructive for hip hop. I think that's why 1:03:33.040 --> 1:03:35.400 God took my voice, you know, because when I came out, 1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:39.840 I lost my voice. I didn't have my baritone and 1:03:40.160 --> 1:03:45.320 and it was a disaster. And cald is my God, 1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:48.240 love him so much. He wasn't flying private planes. Then 1:03:48.280 --> 1:03:51.880 he was ready to take a boat to believe for 1:03:51.960 --> 1:03:55.160 me to do that record. But I wasn't ready and 1:03:55.320 --> 1:03:58.360 I wasn't ready because again I lost focused. Like I 1:03:58.520 --> 1:04:02.800 was in I was in ectional facilities, you know, going 1:04:02.880 --> 1:04:06.040 through a journey, not to come out and be tupap. 1:04:07.760 --> 1:04:11.200 I don't write rhymes, I just create, Just give me 1:04:11.280 --> 1:04:14.280 the beat. So I had, I had albums in my head. 1:04:15.280 --> 1:04:19.040 But the point I'm making is, you know, Um, I 1:04:19.240 --> 1:04:23.640 came out with the wrong energy, that destructive energy, and 1:04:23.880 --> 1:04:27.160 that had been very devastating for hip hop. We lost 1:04:27.200 --> 1:04:29.960 two of our icons and even more people because of 1:04:30.040 --> 1:04:33.800 that destructive energy. So for me to be a leader again, 1:04:33.880 --> 1:04:37.520 to to want to be about Molly and after ten 1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:40.320 years of going through all that, even if it's just entertainment, 1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:43.360 even if it's just me speaking my truth and giving 1:04:43.440 --> 1:04:47.080 my opinions on you know the rules are wrapping the 1:04:47.160 --> 1:04:51.000 rules of the street. That's not the energy that we 1:04:51.120 --> 1:04:54.840 ever need again because I'm too rare, and when you're 1:04:54.840 --> 1:04:59.960 too rare, things end up becoming very destructive and devastated. 1:05:00.560 --> 1:05:03.400 So Um, so yeah, the energy just wasn't right. And 1:05:03.880 --> 1:05:07.320 the energy that I have now, it's the right energy, 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:11.640 celebrating everyone and you know, wishing everybody the best, and 1:05:11.760 --> 1:05:15.120 everything is about beliefs. So when you came home and 1:05:15.800 --> 1:05:17.880 what did you feel pressure to do that college verse? 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:20.520 Did you regret it? Like? No, I didn't feel pressure. 1:05:20.520 --> 1:05:23.240 I just I just explained to you. My problem is 1:05:24.080 --> 1:05:27.640 my energy was not right. Yeah, if your energy is negative, 1:05:28.440 --> 1:05:30.959 you're focused on the wrong thing. Why am I thinking 1:05:31.000 --> 1:05:34.040 about brick Ross? Why am I thinking about Ditty? Why 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:37.000 am I thinking about fifty? I'm supposed to be thinking 1:05:37.040 --> 1:05:40.640 about myself. I'm supposed to be thinking about believes I'm 1:05:40.640 --> 1:05:42.760 supposed to be thinking about how I'm gonna make hits. 1:05:43.720 --> 1:05:46.480 That was just the wrong energy. So it's like again 1:05:46.760 --> 1:05:50.720 instead of the on be diva, God slap me upside 1:05:50.800 --> 1:05:53.880 my head, took my voice away so that I could, 1:05:53.960 --> 1:05:57.800 you know, get focused what was important. But when you 1:05:57.880 --> 1:06:00.200 came home, you didn't go straight to belives right. You 1:06:00.280 --> 1:06:01.680 know what happened is when you know it was like 1:06:01.760 --> 1:06:04.560 in Paris, I was on I was in um my guy, 1:06:04.680 --> 1:06:09.960 Stephen Victor just hit me. Congratulations Stephen Victor. He's Um, 1:06:10.280 --> 1:06:13.680 he's the he's Spotify. I guy. No, no, no, no, no, 1:06:13.800 --> 1:06:15.560 Stephen Victor, come on, don't do that. Now, he got 1:06:15.800 --> 1:06:18.880 got money in Spotify. Stephen Victor probably got money and 1:06:18.920 --> 1:06:21.480 everything I'm talking about. Stephen Victor pushed the tea. Yeah yeah, 1:06:21.560 --> 1:06:23.439 I'm talking about he got something. So he got money 1:06:23.480 --> 1:06:25.760 and he had money from you, so much money he 1:06:25.840 --> 1:06:28.040 got wet No, no, but I wanted to. I wanted 1:06:28.040 --> 1:06:32.080 to celebrate, uh, my young brother. He's a he's been 1:06:32.080 --> 1:06:36.240 a friend of mine since, you know, over thirteen years, 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:41.440 and so I'm so proud of him. He got se 1:06:42.360 --> 1:06:43.920 then we got he's he's on his way over here. 1:06:44.640 --> 1:06:48.800 That's my part. We got the box. We don't know okay, 1:06:49.200 --> 1:06:50.520 and we got it, but we got it. We got 1:06:50.640 --> 1:06:54.680 I gotta also celebrate my other younger brother, uh Steve, oh, 1:06:55.400 --> 1:07:01.440 Stephen Carllers. He just he just became president a Warner Bros. 1:07:01.720 --> 1:07:06.439 That's my other little brother. Okay, my insig, Yes that sound. 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:09.440 We don't all show us about giving people their flowers 1:07:09.480 --> 1:07:11.840 while they're alive. So many people wouldn't show you love 1:07:11.920 --> 1:07:13.720 after we we we didn't make up that statement, but 1:07:13.800 --> 1:07:15.760 we made it famous in hip hop. So we literally 1:07:15.800 --> 1:07:18.880 want to give your flowers while you here to your face, 1:07:18.960 --> 1:07:21.000 face to face matter man, thanks to you what you 1:07:21.080 --> 1:07:24.520 need in the community. Hip hop You know what I mean, 1:07:24.640 --> 1:07:27.440 standing tall for the streets, standing tall for every day. 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:32.680 We respect you, we love you, we appreciate you. Shout 1:07:32.680 --> 1:07:35.960 out what the flower? So then I gotta I gotta 1:07:35.960 --> 1:07:39.560 give you my yeah because now you know so this 1:07:39.720 --> 1:07:44.640 is uh, this is nineteen eighty one. Uh excuse me, 1:07:44.760 --> 1:07:48.320 belies Rum from one of the institutions of Rum, uh 1:07:48.760 --> 1:07:53.200 called Travelers. This one. Yeah, this is nineteen eighty one. 1:07:53.480 --> 1:07:56.760 This is a Travelers. They actually have a museum Beliefs 1:07:56.800 --> 1:07:59.200 if you're ever visited Beliefs, which I know everybody out 1:07:59.240 --> 1:08:02.400 there watching. We got to go to police. You gotta 1:08:02.400 --> 1:08:04.560 break that over because we're gonna drink. Okay, okay, alright, cool, 1:08:04.560 --> 1:08:05.880 I was trying to save it. Take it home for me. 1:08:06.480 --> 1:08:10.280 I've got for you this work. You think my naturally 1:08:10.320 --> 1:08:12.240 drinking instinct like like, hold on, they can take this home. 1:08:12.520 --> 1:08:14.200 Does he know we're ready to go to police and 1:08:14.240 --> 1:08:17.080 do this interview with we were we were ready to 1:08:17.160 --> 1:08:19.200 know before I didn't you did tell me that we 1:08:19.400 --> 1:08:22.160 got you got your American ship back I don't selling back. 1:08:22.200 --> 1:08:25.040 I said your ship. No, no, no, how did you 1:08:25.160 --> 1:08:29.000 get that back? How did you government? Okay, yeah, I've 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:34.559 got a next into the house. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, 1:08:34.560 --> 1:08:37.280 you can let the Domerican to every same thing. So, 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:43.800 oh you know why we're so we're so uneducated, so 1:08:45.720 --> 1:08:47.680 that I think it was like this. Yeah, it was 1:08:47.680 --> 1:08:51.479 a little definitely that silly wouldn't fix expressive ship right there. 1:08:53.400 --> 1:08:56.519 So we watch you out with that bottle. That's that's 1:08:56.560 --> 1:09:02.599 expensive ship right there there you go. Okay, all right, 1:09:02.840 --> 1:09:06.040 we got I think you gotta take off. He just 1:09:06.160 --> 1:09:09.599 used to open the package. It's a cocaine forget about 1:09:09.640 --> 1:09:19.479 Dominican friend actually looking expencive. Okay, okay, okay, I don't 1:09:19.520 --> 1:09:24.240 know you do you do right? No problem, no problem. Listen, 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:28.320 we got and we got the Caribbean the Caribbean rum too. Okay, 1:09:28.720 --> 1:09:30.880 this the um. This is the ten year old. I'm 1:09:30.880 --> 1:09:32.920 gonna sign this before I leave. Yeah, please, I'm gonna 1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:36.160 put you that right in my ball, right put in 1:09:36.520 --> 1:09:38.320 check this out. This is a game that we played 1:09:38.360 --> 1:09:40.160 on the show, is called quick Time of Slim. Right. 1:09:40.680 --> 1:09:43.120 The quick Time of Slam is very simple. You pick 1:09:43.240 --> 1:09:45.519 one or the other, if you pick both, or if 1:09:45.560 --> 1:09:49.639 you pick neither. Did you take a shot. But let's 1:09:49.680 --> 1:09:53.040 let's see, let's see how you do out. Alright, cool, 1:09:53.040 --> 1:09:55.519 you're ready, got the shots ready? Alright? Cool? Let me 1:09:55.560 --> 1:09:57.519 get them pull it off. You can tell your shot 1:09:57.560 --> 1:09:59.680 in the Caribbean. Let me try. We go in and 1:10:00.000 --> 1:10:01.840 but we're gonna wait. Don't take a shot yet. What 1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:11.720 I'm saying too fast? One night outside. Listen, listen, this 1:10:11.880 --> 1:10:16.320 this is this is all in the belief they couldn't 1:10:16.320 --> 1:10:20.559 pay for this second market. You know you got shot, 1:10:20.560 --> 1:10:23.800 you got hit, shot out bring me so I'm gonna 1:10:23.800 --> 1:10:25.760 do one in one okay, yeah, yeah, I'll do I 1:10:26.280 --> 1:10:29.040 did that one, right, I did that one. Just what 1:10:29.120 --> 1:10:32.800 I'm I'm gonna do one shot? One? One shot? Okay, 1:10:33.479 --> 1:10:36.519 all right, I got eighty one. It's close to my 1:10:36.600 --> 1:10:42.120 birthday was ninety one. Nineteen eighty one is when believes 1:10:42.160 --> 1:10:47.080 got us independence? Oh? Wow? That that recent? Yeah, forty 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:53.880 years old. Today's independence from from Great Britain. Wow, that's great. 1:10:54.200 --> 1:10:59.320 And speaking speaking with Great Britain. Along with the Deputy 1:10:59.360 --> 1:11:04.160 Prime Minister of the Leaves Cordel hide Um, we are 1:11:04.320 --> 1:11:10.040 taking the United Kingdom to court for reparations, because reparations 1:11:10.360 --> 1:11:15.160 are due. I said that was the first album. Look 1:11:15.160 --> 1:11:18.439 at United Kingdom next you know, well, you know the 1:11:18.640 --> 1:11:21.840 colonialism is a is a curse to humanity, so they 1:11:21.920 --> 1:11:24.400 gotta pay. But let me okay, let me not digress, 1:11:24.479 --> 1:11:26.360 all right, So this is this is it. We picked 1:11:26.439 --> 1:11:29.519 one of the other big both take a shot. I 1:11:29.600 --> 1:11:30.840 think we need a little bit more than le's get 1:11:30.880 --> 1:11:33.040 a little bit more just in case. Yeah, just a 1:11:33.080 --> 1:11:36.840 little bit, just in case, run DMC or the locks. 1:11:40.000 --> 1:11:44.559 I take a shot. Okay, that's fair. Though, that's fair. 1:11:48.120 --> 1:11:51.120 Welly're good, that's very good. We're supposed to drink the 1:11:51.160 --> 1:11:53.080 whole thing. I mean, yeah, it's up to you. It's 1:11:53.080 --> 1:11:56.600 pretty much shot however you want. Next time this, I 1:11:56.640 --> 1:11:59.120 don't know who are you gonna go with? You do 1:11:59.240 --> 1:12:01.920 the next one? Next time? Okay, this one, I don't 1:12:01.920 --> 1:12:07.040 know where you go with. I don't know every representatives, 1:12:07.080 --> 1:12:11.120 So I got to do half a shot. Can't be 1:12:11.200 --> 1:12:13.000 walking out this. I don't know who gonna go with 1:12:14.840 --> 1:12:20.800 us or beliee police police. And that was I think 1:12:20.800 --> 1:12:23.120 he's gonna think about what makes him take a shot. 1:12:23.160 --> 1:12:29.120 Now you believe he's actually why later Okay, he's over everything. 1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:40.120 Of course, now you've been on both. I'm gonna say 1:12:40.320 --> 1:12:48.680 bad boy, so pop Daddy r us obviously, okay, I 1:12:50.680 --> 1:12:56.640 Mason Jada Kiss j the Kiss, ready to die on 1:12:56.720 --> 1:13:03.760 me against the world, ready to die damn easy, let 1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:06.040 me let me calm down, all right, Cool, he's doing 1:13:06.120 --> 1:13:09.360 too good man, Hold on, cool, you got you need 1:13:09.400 --> 1:13:18.240 to get some more Snoop or Buster. Oh man, it's 1:13:18.240 --> 1:13:20.880 whatever criteria for you. But yeah, that's what I'm said. 1:13:20.880 --> 1:13:23.840 What's the whatever, whateverever you want, whatever is in your mind. 1:13:23.920 --> 1:13:27.320 It's a crazy feel like, let's go with myster you know, 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:31.960 like you know Snoop is in a different space. It 1:13:32.040 --> 1:13:34.040 sounds like you're about to stay a shot. I gotta 1:13:34.080 --> 1:13:36.519 take a shot, take a shot, my brother. So you know, 1:13:37.320 --> 1:13:39.599 I can't choose anybody. Snoop is like the most famous 1:13:39.600 --> 1:13:44.599 wrapper up in the world. Snoop American Icon. Everybody anybody 1:13:44.640 --> 1:13:49.200 knows stoop yea yeah, yeah, both like your grandmother there, 1:13:49.320 --> 1:13:52.599 you're mixing the shots. Yeah, yeah, this is the name 1:13:52.640 --> 1:13:55.280 of Belize. That's how that's how you gotta do it. 1:13:56.800 --> 1:13:59.800 I'm going to Majuana next. I'm not gonna lie or 1:14:00.280 --> 1:14:05.479 rum has that Caribbean. Taste to it like you immediately 1:14:05.560 --> 1:14:08.240 drink rum and then taste the palm tree like you 1:14:08.360 --> 1:14:10.760 just like you just look at like a ship, you 1:14:10.800 --> 1:14:12.720 know what I mean? Like this is the best rum. Yes, 1:14:12.800 --> 1:14:20.320 it's it's good. Kenjick Lamar J Cole j Cole. All right, 1:14:20.320 --> 1:14:22.080 you ain't gonna be able to answer this. This this, 1:14:22.360 --> 1:14:25.840 this is easy. This one. Queen Latifa em c Light. 1:14:29.000 --> 1:14:30.960 You know, I wrote a record. I wrote a record 1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:34.559 for Queen I mean for em c Light on her 1:14:35.800 --> 1:14:39.200 her seven Alm with my things, you know. But you know, 1:14:39.320 --> 1:14:43.160 Queen la teeth is icon. Mc light is an icon. 1:14:43.320 --> 1:14:46.240 You know, paper thin. I gotta take a shot now, 1:14:46.920 --> 1:14:48.800 you're going back to this one. This this one, get 1:14:48.880 --> 1:14:51.559 my chests hot, that's what she looks. Something I love 1:14:52.680 --> 1:14:54.280 and I saved my chest hairs earlier. I don't know 1:14:54.280 --> 1:15:03.080 if you know, I need to paste myself. Yeo, yeah bad, yes, 1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:05.200 when you come to believe you all right, so I 1:15:05.240 --> 1:15:08.560 little no problem. I got you all that and that 1:15:08.680 --> 1:15:14.000 didn't help either. Yeah, it's definitely okay, Scarface on ice 1:15:14.080 --> 1:15:23.759 cube shot, I got you. We're doing before you first. 1:15:25.479 --> 1:15:29.280 I like how you like mainly how aw I love 1:15:29.360 --> 1:15:30.920 that I can tell we got the team to stay 1:15:31.000 --> 1:15:33.439 tasting hip hop. Okay, we gotta take it down, Solot, 1:15:34.680 --> 1:15:36.599 thank you for being here. Shot and you definitely want 1:15:36.600 --> 1:15:42.519 you to know that, uh immediately See bump reminds me 1:15:42.560 --> 1:15:45.960 of Part a WEEKO so much so. Yeah, because you know, 1:15:46.000 --> 1:15:49.120 I get get dumb o talk about believes before I 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:51.559 leave it. Yeah, we got that, We got you belies. Okay, 1:15:52.600 --> 1:16:01.080 Nas or Jay take a shot. That'm gonna do a 1:16:01.120 --> 1:16:08.080 little one. Yeah if yeah, that's all now they get 1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:22.839 the point. Ah Yeah, Nicky or Cardi deal, Niki, loyalty 1:16:23.000 --> 1:16:33.479 or respect both, it's always the right answer. Motherfucker's get 1:16:33.600 --> 1:16:41.479 mad complicated. Yeah, it's both. Sottle, so I don't okay. Ah, 1:16:46.360 --> 1:16:49.559 Foxy Brown a little cat, Foxy Brown, let me get 1:16:49.560 --> 1:17:02.120 that carib Faith of Monica Faith Shop up a super 1:17:02.160 --> 1:17:09.320 cat show. I said that too quick. Yeah, I'm gonna 1:17:09.320 --> 1:17:11.000 go with I'm gonna go with shop with you know, 1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:13.240 a super cat. You know he was great, But I'm 1:17:13.280 --> 1:17:15.320 gonna go with shoping man. Nobody got more hits and 1:17:15.360 --> 1:17:27.639 shot shot up. He's a push your off fat shot. Okay. 1:17:28.760 --> 1:17:33.439 I was a little confused with that one too. I 1:17:33.520 --> 1:17:37.200 think he's gonna be confused with this. Boold you. Okay, 1:17:37.240 --> 1:17:39.840 I gotta finish you put up. You pought the hang 1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:46.080 one in the name of Belice, Belie Belice is weird situation. 1:17:48.040 --> 1:17:54.800 I don't think I do that right. I need more 1:17:54.800 --> 1:17:58.040 of this. They sell it out here, No, I got 1:17:58.080 --> 1:17:59.360 it to you. I'll get a case. That's a good 1:17:59.439 --> 1:18:02.160 case to you. Rock Camp we want to distribute out here, 1:18:02.200 --> 1:18:05.760 and beliefs I'm doing. You made the Beliefs Festival all 1:18:05.840 --> 1:18:08.160 around the United States, and they're gonna be one of 1:18:08.240 --> 1:18:15.920 the mains. Is really good rock Camp or cam Yeah? Sure, 1:18:19.320 --> 1:18:25.880 that was your last shot. It was Man, they're gonna 1:18:28.640 --> 1:18:39.559 Rap City or NTV raps rap City, j Loo Mariah, 1:18:46.439 --> 1:18:49.360 you almost did a bit with j Low though not 1:18:49.520 --> 1:18:56.000 really with your right. This is the last one Boys 1:18:56.040 --> 1:19:03.559 in the Hood or Juice shot shot. Okay, that's cool, 1:19:03.640 --> 1:19:17.880 that's fair, Yeah, right, okay, But she never asked my 1:19:18.080 --> 1:19:20.559 asked my question about more or less? More or less? 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:23.360 I've always wondered, is that Foxy on the song? But 1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:26.320 you didn't credit her for being on the song? No, 1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:30.679 it doesn't say feature in Foxy Brown. It's that species 1:19:30.720 --> 1:19:34.600 fox brought on gang Land. I think that was an oversighter. 1:19:34.840 --> 1:19:37.000 Oh yeah, I can show you it right now. It's 1:19:37.040 --> 1:19:43.120 calling me right now. Okay, I'm on. UM's not going 1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:49.560 through for songs, but I don't know why that is. 1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:57.680 But yeah, now you all the second rapper to have 1:19:57.800 --> 1:20:02.519 a drop an album. Hello, Princess, listen, I'm on drink 1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:09.479 Champs right now. Okay, I'm filming, but I'm gonna get 1:20:09.520 --> 1:20:12.960 your baby alive with the kitchen, with the food and 1:20:13.000 --> 1:20:18.720 the Barbie camper and everything. Okay, I love you. You 1:20:19.000 --> 1:20:24.479 gotta be pushing more of this positive energy. It's all. Yeah, 1:20:24.560 --> 1:20:27.280 it's called our father hood. Yeah, our father hoods Yes. 1:20:27.960 --> 1:20:31.439 So what damn? What does that just say? Okay, you're 1:20:31.439 --> 1:20:40.120 the second rapper to ever go number one while incarcerated 1:20:40.200 --> 1:20:43.200 in jail. Now, I know that's not something to brag about, 1:20:43.920 --> 1:20:48.120 but think about how many motherfucking rappers ever been to jail. 1:20:48.640 --> 1:20:52.880 It's just certainly an accomplishment to go number one in 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:55.639 any circumstances, and I'll be able to support the record. 1:20:56.720 --> 1:21:01.080 I mean, going number one, it's going number one, and um, yeah, 1:21:01.200 --> 1:21:04.760 I've been very fortunate, you know, and that's that's one 1:21:04.800 --> 1:21:07.200 of the reasons why you know, I'm grateful for this 1:21:07.320 --> 1:21:11.960 opportunity to make amends and you know, to um to 1:21:12.120 --> 1:21:15.479 put just positive energy with people who I may have 1:21:16.320 --> 1:21:20.240 contributed a lot of negative energy towards because I was 1:21:20.360 --> 1:21:23.960 very fortunate. Did you know your marketing campaign, you know 1:21:24.080 --> 1:21:26.320 you would like it was fandom just came out. I 1:21:26.479 --> 1:21:28.840 was a CEO. Yeah, listen to Fanom just came That 1:21:28.960 --> 1:21:31.120 was the CEO for you had a rap Fanom. I 1:21:31.240 --> 1:21:33.800 was the CEO for riving Around. You know how dope 1:21:33.840 --> 1:21:38.719 that it was? That that was all listen The fandom 1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:42.000 just came out was about four. That was Steve Oh 1:21:42.120 --> 1:21:44.320 to Steve Carlos, Steve Carlins. I thought it was Kevin 1:21:44.400 --> 1:21:47.840 Lives No, no, no, remember maybe the stego was working 1:21:47.880 --> 1:21:50.800 for me. He was. That's what I'm saying. You don't 1:21:50.880 --> 1:21:56.960 understand how great hip hop is. Stephen Victor Junior. It's 1:21:57.040 --> 1:22:01.920 now you know the biggest thing in universal music. Uh. 1:22:02.160 --> 1:22:07.000 Stephen Carlos, president of Want of Music and Young SIDEPP 1:22:07.080 --> 1:22:08.960 was working with you too. Yeah. They had best of 1:22:09.040 --> 1:22:12.360 both worlds, best of both offices. Yeah, it was my 1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:16.720 my sons, But I no know, I'm just saying, like 1:22:16.920 --> 1:22:19.160 my guys, the Brookly jump Out of the area and 1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:24.240 there like you know, this movement. So yeah, that was yeah, 1:22:24.280 --> 1:22:27.479 that was sad and Steve are running around the town. 1:22:28.160 --> 1:22:31.760 Yeah yeah in the family where I'm not. But listen, 1:22:32.200 --> 1:22:35.160 it's a difference. God bless me. Um. You know, well, 1:22:35.600 --> 1:22:38.320 only other people who did that was Rockefeller and this 1:22:38.400 --> 1:22:40.200 is when Rocket Feller was the hottest in the world. 1:22:40.439 --> 1:22:43.200 They used to put the flyers on the on the 1:22:43.720 --> 1:22:46.240 on the e class. Yeah. No, no, no, no, that's 1:22:46.240 --> 1:22:49.719 what you had. You had, you ships had the flyers, 1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:53.160 like I didn't know that. That's a good poe. We're 1:22:53.160 --> 1:22:56.720 not trying to you know, yeah, that's that's a good point. 1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:59.240 That's a good point. I didn't realize the difference. You're 1:22:59.320 --> 1:23:02.920 right right, they did have Okay, that wasn't official rat 1:23:03.080 --> 1:23:06.920 that's yeah. You're the first person I've seen a super 1:23:07.040 --> 1:23:09.680 luck to recall because the Buggy opens was nice. You 1:23:09.760 --> 1:23:13.320 had to had the big, big billboard at the Brooklyn Bridge. 1:23:14.120 --> 1:23:19.000 That's before Dumbo. You do what's before k D from 1:23:19.000 --> 1:23:24.759 the camp. Listen, I shot a video when you can't damn, damn, 1:23:25.200 --> 1:23:32.519 how do you Wow? That's how I got to the 1:23:32.560 --> 1:23:35.400 House of Representive But listen, no, no, honestly, you know 1:23:36.439 --> 1:23:39.840 that's you got your powers, and the entire point of 1:23:39.880 --> 1:23:43.760 your powers is to use them for good. And you know, 1:23:44.600 --> 1:23:48.920 I'm very, very grateful to be in a position to 1:23:49.040 --> 1:23:52.040 be a global leader. And so you know, hip hop 1:23:52.160 --> 1:24:00.320 is the most dominant forcing the globe. But unfortunately there's 1:24:00.360 --> 1:24:05.479 a lot of celebrations of destruction. And I'm not judging 1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:08.560 my brothers, you know, like like Meet mill that's like, 1:24:08.720 --> 1:24:10.920 that's like my my little bro. Like I love him. 1:24:11.000 --> 1:24:14.280 You know. What I'm saying he's doing is um criminal 1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:18.000 justice reform thing, him and Michael Rubin, And you know, 1:24:18.439 --> 1:24:20.720 I just want to see him be the leader. I 1:24:20.800 --> 1:24:22.639 want to see him be Mandela. I want to see 1:24:22.720 --> 1:24:26.560 him be Malcolm X because we need that. And what 1:24:26.680 --> 1:24:31.439 I'm saying is, you know, all the gang banging, you know, 1:24:31.640 --> 1:24:36.320 all of you know, just genocide, it has to stop. 1:24:36.479 --> 1:24:37.600 You know what I'm saying. It has to come a 1:24:37.680 --> 1:24:41.120 point where you know, we we we have so much power. 1:24:41.280 --> 1:24:45.600 We gotta the chairman, my my brother, how came Jeffreys. 1:24:46.960 --> 1:24:51.320 He's the chairman of the um House of Representative Caucus, 1:24:51.439 --> 1:24:57.960 the Democratic Caucus, not the Black Caucus caucus. We have power. 1:24:59.000 --> 1:25:03.639 We have a vice P isn't it Kamala Harris? African 1:25:03.680 --> 1:25:07.679 American women? Uncle Joe, you know that meme of little 1:25:07.760 --> 1:25:11.240 baby putting the chain around his neck, that's real, Uncle Joe. 1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:14.360 You know he might have made some mistakes a hundred 1:25:14.439 --> 1:25:18.040 years ago, but I think, you know, I feel his energy. 1:25:18.120 --> 1:25:21.200 He's getting it done. The point I'm making is we 1:25:21.400 --> 1:25:27.599 have to stop relying on other communities and other people, 1:25:28.080 --> 1:25:31.760 and we have to start holding ourselves accountable. What I'm 1:25:31.800 --> 1:25:37.439 saying so yeah, um Kanye said he called up Carmilla. 1:25:37.520 --> 1:25:40.120 We ain't seen hers since that lection, Harris. Let you 1:25:40.200 --> 1:25:46.920 hear what I'm saying that I mean I discovered. I 1:25:46.960 --> 1:25:50.759 wouldn't say I discovered, yea, But I appreciate his genius 1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:55.320 way before. And you know I love you, you know, yea. 1:25:56.479 --> 1:25:59.880 I'll never forget I was in Clinton Denner Moraw. You know, 1:26:00.000 --> 1:26:03.680 people don't understand, you know, spending ten years of your 1:26:03.760 --> 1:26:08.880 life in the correctional facility. That's why I entitled my 1:26:09.000 --> 1:26:13.040 second album Buried Alive. That's my question. My second album 1:26:13.160 --> 1:26:16.240 is Buried Alive because I was buried alive. That's that's 1:26:17.600 --> 1:26:21.439 It's only it's only two things. It's only that you 1:26:21.640 --> 1:26:25.680 called the album is that Still Buried Alive. There's only 1:26:25.760 --> 1:26:32.200 two things that's worse. It's being in the hospital or 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:37.479 being incarcerated. You know, being incapacitated in the hospital or 1:26:37.520 --> 1:26:42.640 being incarcerated. Um. You know, so being incarcerated was absolutely 1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:45.200 the worst thing. And that's why I called my album, 1:26:45.840 --> 1:26:50.240 Um God, okay, but it's okay, I hear you know 1:26:50.240 --> 1:26:54.479 what I'm saying, because I was literally I was dead, right, 1:26:55.600 --> 1:26:59.200 but you're alive. But I'm alive because I fought to 1:26:59.280 --> 1:27:02.599 be alive, right, I thought to not be dead, right. 1:27:02.880 --> 1:27:06.160 I was like Michael Jackson and Thriller, you know, doing 1:27:06.200 --> 1:27:08.559 the whole dance and everything after he rose from the dead. 1:27:09.320 --> 1:27:11.640 So there was there was, there was voment, and I 1:27:11.640 --> 1:27:13.560 would like to address every year you could say no, 1:27:13.920 --> 1:27:16.439 yes that like when you was in jail, like you 1:27:16.560 --> 1:27:22.240 was affiliated with the biggest blogs. I was. I loved everybody. 1:27:22.640 --> 1:27:26.120 I was a leader that I am today. I was 1:27:26.200 --> 1:27:29.639 a leader. I was in there stopping people from killing 1:27:29.720 --> 1:27:33.400 each other, stopping people from flipping violence against each other. 1:27:34.439 --> 1:27:35.720 And you know, I did what I had to do 1:27:35.840 --> 1:27:39.439 to survive. Um, but I was a leader. I took 1:27:39.520 --> 1:27:42.880 care of everybody. I took care of everybody. It didn't 1:27:42.880 --> 1:27:46.439 matter your affiliation, you know, it didn't really matter. You know, 1:27:46.600 --> 1:27:48.920 some people have certain type of charges that I really 1:27:48.960 --> 1:27:51.680 didn't want anything to do with, you know, station you know, 1:27:53.600 --> 1:27:56.479 but no, no, no, I was a leader. You know, 1:27:56.720 --> 1:28:00.360 I love I love people. I'm a humanitarian and that's 1:28:00.400 --> 1:28:02.720 what I was about. You know what, maybe there there 1:28:02.760 --> 1:28:05.599 were certain people that loved me more than other people. 1:28:06.360 --> 1:28:08.880 But I was all about you know, everyone just trying 1:28:08.920 --> 1:28:10.680 to God my brothers just you know, I felt so 1:28:10.800 --> 1:28:14.200 bad that I was there. And while I was there, 1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:16.560 I would have a number one album I would have, 1:28:16.720 --> 1:28:18.920 you know, like jay Z would come to Riker's Allen 1:28:19.000 --> 1:28:21.160 into may Back a right to see you, to come 1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:25.280 and see the Fat Joe would pull up. Fat Joe 1:28:25.320 --> 1:28:29.240 actually did a concert for me for my brothers that 1:28:29.960 --> 1:28:32.439 were incarcerated. So now I was just I was as 1:28:32.439 --> 1:28:37.800 a leader that ever worked against you those type of things. No, no, no, no, no, no. 1:28:38.000 --> 1:28:42.479 The the the authorities loved me because you know, all 1:28:42.560 --> 1:28:46.080 I did was pray, you know. Um. You know, I 1:28:46.240 --> 1:28:53.120 was a devout jue you know, kosha Um. I minded 1:28:53.160 --> 1:28:55.639 my business, you know, and I try to advise everybody. 1:28:55.680 --> 1:28:58.439 I try to guide everybody people. Young kids would come in. 1:28:58.479 --> 1:29:01.760 I had a program call um Yeah, you have to 1:29:01.840 --> 1:29:04.320 print the ship program. So if a young kid would 1:29:04.320 --> 1:29:07.000 come to my house, I would and he didn't have 1:29:07.080 --> 1:29:10.120 his high school diploma, I would send him or take 1:29:10.200 --> 1:29:12.160 I would take him upstairs to a class that I 1:29:12.280 --> 1:29:14.200 taught and made sure he would try to get his 1:29:14.320 --> 1:29:17.400 g D. Wow. You know, so I was always always 1:29:17.439 --> 1:29:19.800 about positivity. That's why, like I said, when I came 1:29:19.840 --> 1:29:23.960 out and I was then with all that negativity, you 1:29:24.000 --> 1:29:26.160 know that there wasn't the right thing to do. So 1:29:27.960 --> 1:29:31.080 you know, so many people go to jail and they 1:29:31.160 --> 1:29:33.720 come back, you know, they come back blood or they 1:29:33.840 --> 1:29:38.000 come back crypt when they come back, Musslim when they 1:29:38.040 --> 1:29:42.240 come back, Christian they come No one comes back Jewish, 1:29:42.800 --> 1:29:46.960 you know, the Israelites the proper name for Jews or 1:29:47.040 --> 1:29:50.800 Israelites and Israelites for people who don't know. I'm not 1:29:50.880 --> 1:29:53.080 talking about those guys on forty second streets. That's what 1:29:53.120 --> 1:29:57.000 I was about to say. No, no, listen, listen, if 1:29:57.000 --> 1:30:00.160 you're slack, if you're if you if you are a 1:30:00.280 --> 1:30:09.479 Christian or a Muslim cordon or the King James version 1:30:09.640 --> 1:30:12.400 of the Bible, and you read the Old test that 1:30:12.680 --> 1:30:16.360 they both have the Old Testament, and you read, you 1:30:16.479 --> 1:30:22.240 know it will tell you um about the Israelites. And 1:30:22.760 --> 1:30:25.760 you know the Five Books of Moses is it is 1:30:25.800 --> 1:30:30.760 in both those um scriptures. And you know in the 1:30:30.880 --> 1:30:33.519 Five Books of Moses, which is my name, you change 1:30:33.560 --> 1:30:38.960 it Anti Moses Levi, but my name is Moses barrow Um. 1:30:40.720 --> 1:30:47.120 The Five Books of Moses documents the happenings of the Israelites. 1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:51.519 It's not in the Torah as well. That's the Torah, 1:30:52.439 --> 1:30:57.559 the tourists and the Oak and then the Christian books. 1:30:58.280 --> 1:31:00.280 So the point I'm trying to make is no where 1:31:00.400 --> 1:31:07.560 in the Torah, the Kordan, or the Christian books do 1:31:07.720 --> 1:31:12.880 they mention the word Jews Israelite. You know, Jews just 1:31:13.040 --> 1:31:17.080 a misnomer. It's just you know, just a swedeo name, 1:31:17.200 --> 1:31:20.760 you know, just a um. And if you look at 1:31:20.800 --> 1:31:26.560 the journey of the Israelites, they were Africans, egypt Is 1:31:26.640 --> 1:31:31.880 in Africa, North Africa, Africa, right right, right, right, So 1:31:32.160 --> 1:31:38.120 the people in Africa got broad noses, big lips, and 1:31:38.280 --> 1:31:40.400 you know, much darker than i an. You know, you 1:31:40.479 --> 1:31:44.320 had pharaohs that were the color of your shirt. So 1:31:44.479 --> 1:31:48.680 the point I'm making is you know, um, the Israelites. 1:31:50.680 --> 1:31:53.519 Most of this story was in Africa, So it's not 1:31:53.720 --> 1:31:56.040 like it shouldn't be a coincidence or it shouldn't be 1:31:56.120 --> 1:32:02.280 shocking that, you know, an African, American, African Caribbean is 1:32:02.400 --> 1:32:09.760 drawn to Judaism because that's an African science. Israelism is 1:32:09.800 --> 1:32:13.200 in Africa if you look at if you look at Africa, 1:32:14.120 --> 1:32:20.559 Israel is right, they're attached to Sinai, which is in Africa. 1:32:21.040 --> 1:32:24.519 They're they're, they're they're like connected. They call it the 1:32:24.600 --> 1:32:26.760 Middle East. I'm not gonna get into that politics. But 1:32:26.840 --> 1:32:28.519 if you look at the map, I see what you say. 1:32:28.560 --> 1:32:30.920 It's not far feted, it's not even far fetched. It's 1:32:31.000 --> 1:32:36.360 literally attached. And the entire thing was going from Egypt 1:32:36.840 --> 1:32:40.479 to it. It's the same people. It's still part of Africa. 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:45.360 So Africa got Ethiopians, Africa got you know, um, the 1:32:45.479 --> 1:32:49.120 Ebos and Nigeria. You know, shout out to my little 1:32:49.160 --> 1:32:54.840 brother on dar Vido. So it's not you know, to me, um, 1:32:55.880 --> 1:33:01.479 people associate being Jewish for being European, which is you know, 1:33:01.680 --> 1:33:05.040 just a myth. It's not really you know, if you 1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:09.360 look at Moses, Moses was married to Ethiopian. Ah It 1:33:09.439 --> 1:33:12.840 says this, and it's post World War two. Israel says 1:33:12.880 --> 1:33:15.040 this in the Bible. But I'm not talking about Israel. 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:17.800 I'm just talking about you know, So being a Jew 1:33:17.960 --> 1:33:23.160 is not synonymous with being in Israeli. You know, Um, 1:33:23.360 --> 1:33:26.720 this is something that's like five Our our calendar is 1:33:26.800 --> 1:33:30.760 like five thousand and eight hundred years old. So the 1:33:30.840 --> 1:33:34.479 point I'm making is being a Jew being in Israelite 1:33:34.600 --> 1:33:38.439 is not a racial thing. You have Jews from Rock Eye, 1:33:39.600 --> 1:33:42.679 you know, you have Jews Morocco. You have Jews from Iran, 1:33:42.840 --> 1:33:47.120 you have Jews from Yemen, you have Jews from um Iran. 1:33:47.479 --> 1:33:51.320 You have Jews from Syria, you have Jews from um Lebanon, 1:33:52.160 --> 1:33:55.360 the place. You have Jews from Russia. But your name 1:33:55.400 --> 1:33:58.640 is mostly places besides Russia. You have Jews, know, you 1:33:58.720 --> 1:34:04.320 have Jews from from Czechoslovakia, Jews from from all over Europe. 1:34:05.280 --> 1:34:10.280 But those Jews that in Europe came from Africa, came 1:34:10.360 --> 1:34:14.479 from Israel. They were persecuted in Jerusalem and in Israel, 1:34:14.840 --> 1:34:19.240 and they fled to to Europe. So the point I'm 1:34:19.280 --> 1:34:22.800 making is I don't like to racialize being a Jew, 1:34:23.880 --> 1:34:27.920 being a Jewish, a racial h being a Jewish of 1:34:28.000 --> 1:34:32.439 belief and that is uh, you know, to believe in 1:34:33.320 --> 1:34:38.880 one god mino theism, and I believe that there's one 1:34:39.000 --> 1:34:45.719 intelligent designer that created the universe. And you know, having 1:34:45.760 --> 1:34:49.719 a connection with that intelligent designer, it's the holy Grail 1:34:49.880 --> 1:34:52.160 kind of like with me and did he when I 1:34:52.240 --> 1:34:56.479 realized that connecting with him would lead me to success. 1:34:57.439 --> 1:35:01.280 And that's why I chose the name Moses mhm. Because 1:35:01.360 --> 1:35:06.840 Moses was not born a Jew. He wasn't circumcised, he 1:35:06.880 --> 1:35:10.559 didn't have a britten melt right, he didn't keep shabat, 1:35:11.840 --> 1:35:13.840 he didn't wrap the feeling, he didn't do any of 1:35:13.880 --> 1:35:20.360 those things. He was raised as an Egyptians. Most is 1:35:20.560 --> 1:35:22.920 the same person as Mahami, right, no, no, no, But 1:35:23.080 --> 1:35:27.519 Moses is like the Moses the guy, and Judaism is 1:35:27.640 --> 1:35:31.160 him and King David. But Moses is the guy. He's 1:35:31.160 --> 1:35:35.280 the guy who got the Torah, you know what I mean? Um, 1:35:35.640 --> 1:35:39.200 But Moses was raised as an Egyptian, as a North 1:35:39.280 --> 1:35:48.679 African in Pharaoh's house. But Moses everything that he didn't 1:35:48.680 --> 1:35:55.479 come yet typical Stephen Victor get that money. Yeah, m 1:35:56.360 --> 1:36:02.200 But Moses was raised as Egyptian. Right, But that's what 1:36:02.240 --> 1:36:04.160 I'm trying to tell you that the foundation of being 1:36:04.200 --> 1:36:06.800 a Jew in an Israelite, it's not a racial thing. 1:36:07.320 --> 1:36:12.599 It's an ideological thing. It's a philosophical thing. Right. Let 1:36:12.640 --> 1:36:15.439 me tell you what that ideological and the philosophical thing is. 1:36:16.439 --> 1:36:20.559 Moses grew up with Faraoh. Moses was gonna be Faral 1:36:21.080 --> 1:36:26.559 And who is farh? Pharaoh is the guy that works 1:36:26.640 --> 1:36:31.960 people to death, the guy that has no morals, no characteristics. 1:36:32.000 --> 1:36:37.400 Can we get around applause? And see we got to 1:36:37.479 --> 1:36:42.120 drink to that that. You know how you know you're 1:36:42.200 --> 1:36:46.400 rich when you wear the same hat every day? That's 1:36:46.400 --> 1:36:49.800 the money, right, that's that's that, that's that. What's the 1:36:49.840 --> 1:36:52.280 guy's name? I mean, Warren Buffett is poor? Now that's that. 1:36:53.600 --> 1:37:02.640 Now that's to that that So I look, yeah, so 1:37:02.760 --> 1:37:07.000 long story short. Moses grew up as an Egyptian and 1:37:07.160 --> 1:37:11.960 Moses one day says, you know what, killing people, working 1:37:12.040 --> 1:37:16.040 people to death? Um, you know, so that I could 1:37:16.080 --> 1:37:18.160 be rich and I could have these pyramids and I 1:37:18.240 --> 1:37:21.880 could have all this wealth. That's scarbage. That's by Suda 1:37:22.240 --> 1:37:30.320 ba right, um, like do we my friends smogan? Right? 1:37:31.320 --> 1:37:34.960 And and that's the foundation of being in this really 1:37:35.000 --> 1:37:41.920 like principles, integrity, right, character. He said, you know what, 1:37:42.479 --> 1:37:45.080 I don't want to be rich if being rich means 1:37:45.680 --> 1:37:47.840 that we're gonna work these people to death. These people 1:37:47.840 --> 1:37:51.280 are gonna be slaves. Man, that's scarbage. And he went 1:37:51.400 --> 1:37:58.680 into the desert. We're nothing most Moses in order to 1:37:59.080 --> 1:38:02.559 follow his prince, supposing his ideas. And that's what I did. 1:38:03.720 --> 1:38:06.880 I said, listen, you know here, the rollies, nice, the 1:38:06.960 --> 1:38:12.479 Bentley's nice. I had all of that while on trial, 1:38:13.520 --> 1:38:16.760 but none of that was worth me being at Takashi 1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:18.840 six nine and saying, you know, did he did it? 1:38:20.600 --> 1:38:25.599 So my entire life it's based on integrity and character 1:38:26.439 --> 1:38:29.320 and so like in the House of Representatives and believes 1:38:30.160 --> 1:38:33.680 I'm dead to advocate on behalf of people. And that's 1:38:33.720 --> 1:38:39.360 what Moses did. God, according to the Five Books, was 1:38:39.400 --> 1:38:43.040 gonna destroy the Israelites because they were this, they were that, 1:38:43.200 --> 1:38:45.720 they did this, they did that. And Moses said, you 1:38:45.800 --> 1:38:51.800 know what, kill me, but let the Israelites live. And 1:38:51.920 --> 1:38:56.160 that's a true leader. That's a true leader. True leader 1:38:56.200 --> 1:38:59.000 is gonna sacrifice everything for his team. You guys are 1:38:59.120 --> 1:39:01.280 leaders of your team, and I know you guys. Make 1:39:01.360 --> 1:39:06.479 sure that everybody straight before you straight, everybody goes to bed, 1:39:06.560 --> 1:39:09.960 everybody get their check before you get your check. And 1:39:10.080 --> 1:39:14.280 so yeah. So so that's my connection to being a 1:39:14.360 --> 1:39:18.719 so called Jew. I'm not religious, um, because my religion 1:39:18.840 --> 1:39:22.080 is humanity, and my religion is being honest. My religion 1:39:22.240 --> 1:39:27.120 is being generous. My religion is being tolerant, you know. 1:39:27.800 --> 1:39:31.040 Uh yeah, So so I'm about humanity. I'm not about 1:39:31.160 --> 1:39:35.040 any religion in particular. I still practice the sciences of 1:39:36.280 --> 1:39:41.760 you know, being a Jew, being Israelite. But yeah, how 1:39:41.920 --> 1:39:44.360 was it living in Paris before? What about the next question? Yeah, 1:39:44.600 --> 1:39:49.080 but so every day to just close up to just 1:39:49.240 --> 1:39:53.599 close up that last question. The point is, and an 1:39:53.680 --> 1:39:57.519 African being a Jew should not be surprising. Anyone can 1:39:57.600 --> 1:39:59.880 be a Jew, you know. Being a Jew is not 1:40:00.360 --> 1:40:05.000 restricted to a particular race. Um yea, So Paris. I 1:40:05.200 --> 1:40:08.120 was in Paris before Hoven. You just put that on 1:40:08.240 --> 1:40:16.400 the record. What before Hoven? You you said, Colvin. Yeah, No, 1:40:16.479 --> 1:40:18.840 I'm just I'm cold. Was in Paris. I'm just taking 1:40:18.880 --> 1:40:23.360 my credit. I'm just taking I'm just taking my credit 1:40:23.520 --> 1:40:29.000 in Paris now before I watched The Throne, Okay, I 1:40:29.200 --> 1:40:33.040 was in Paris Hotel coasties. Now, I was in the 1:40:33.200 --> 1:40:38.280 lama Reee for more than six days. That's Um Stephen, 1:40:38.920 --> 1:40:45.960 Stephen very rich. Okay, he was rising. But now now 1:40:46.080 --> 1:40:49.439 you know, Paris is where many of the Jews in 1:40:49.640 --> 1:40:56.600 Israel who were persecuted, many of the Syrian, Moroccan, Iranian 1:40:57.479 --> 1:41:00.560 Lebanese Jews, they went to Paris about the hash and 1:41:00.600 --> 1:41:03.839 so Patis there's a big there's a big Jewish community 1:41:03.920 --> 1:41:07.799 in Paris, and there's a big African community in Paris. 1:41:08.240 --> 1:41:13.320 And Paris is so rich with culture in arts. Even 1:41:13.360 --> 1:41:16.639 though you know, there's even though, even though even though 1:41:16.720 --> 1:41:20.920 they did Haiti dirty, you know, they made Haiti pay 1:41:21.720 --> 1:41:24.760 all types of hundreds of billions of dollars because of 1:41:24.920 --> 1:41:29.719 Um Pierre Toussaint Am I saying it right? Stephen Pierre 1:41:29.760 --> 1:41:37.000 Toussaint These, the first African leader in the Caribbean, destroyed 1:41:37.479 --> 1:41:41.679 the French and what is now the Republic of Haiti. 1:41:42.439 --> 1:41:47.360 He's from eighteen o four, He's from Haiti. Africans, Africans 1:41:47.360 --> 1:41:53.640 who Haitian Frants. His heart is Africa, careful, He's so happy. Africans, 1:41:53.760 --> 1:41:58.240 Africans who were transported from Africa to build the New 1:41:58.320 --> 1:42:03.479 America's destroyed the French, which was the biggest military at 1:42:03.479 --> 1:42:05.840 the time, biggest military at the time, and they were 1:42:05.880 --> 1:42:08.720 so embarrassed and they had such big egos that they 1:42:08.840 --> 1:42:12.080 came back and they said, okay, yeah, you got your independence, 1:42:13.040 --> 1:42:16.640 but you owe us. And that's why Haiti is the 1:42:16.680 --> 1:42:19.760 way it is right just finished hadis not the way 1:42:20.120 --> 1:42:24.000 it is right now because Haitians are so you know 1:42:24.160 --> 1:42:31.120 Mongolian or their their Nimrods their it's because the Europeans 1:42:31.560 --> 1:42:36.040 in France made them pay hundreds of billions of dollars 1:42:36.120 --> 1:42:41.880 that could have went to their development. Right, So um, so, yeah, 1:42:43.080 --> 1:42:45.439 is that through NATO that they made him pay? No, no, no, no, no, 1:42:45.560 --> 1:42:48.840 they made him pay for generations. So I'm sure the 1:42:48.880 --> 1:42:51.479 World Bank was involved in that too, you know, whatever, 1:42:51.720 --> 1:42:55.639 whatever it was, you know, yeah, they made them pay. Yeah, 1:42:56.439 --> 1:42:58.320 you said Nimrod is that the guy who like used 1:42:58.360 --> 1:43:00.320 to cut people's heads off. That's what they say that 1:43:00.720 --> 1:43:05.200 I'm talking about a Christmas trees come from ms ornaments 1:43:05.600 --> 1:43:07.559 is because Nemo used to cut the people heads off 1:43:07.760 --> 1:43:11.160 and put it on trees. Talking about you were talking 1:43:11.160 --> 1:43:14.840 about France. We were talking about France, but you know, 1:43:15.000 --> 1:43:18.559 the French. The reason France is so rich, the reason 1:43:18.640 --> 1:43:22.120 the UK is so rich, colonial is because of the 1:43:22.720 --> 1:43:28.800 extraction of wealth from the Caribbean using Africans. So Africans, 1:43:28.840 --> 1:43:33.519 you know what I always tell those African boys and 1:43:33.640 --> 1:43:37.880 girls and believe and African boys and girls everywhere. You know, 1:43:38.200 --> 1:43:44.240 never feel inferior, never feel you know that you're something less. 1:43:44.680 --> 1:43:48.400 You're a pharaoh, you know, you're you're a king. That's 1:43:48.400 --> 1:43:52.680 where you come from. You were forced into slavery. And 1:43:52.800 --> 1:43:57.000 so the Europeans, the French, the United Kingdom, they got 1:43:57.080 --> 1:44:00.760 their wealth. They they're the ultimate hustle Portuguese as well, 1:44:00.880 --> 1:44:05.439 the ultimate, the ultimate killers and murderers and gangsters. A 1:44:05.479 --> 1:44:07.679 part of that gang right, gangster, he was a gangster, 1:44:08.760 --> 1:44:10.960 you understand. And what they did to native people, they 1:44:11.040 --> 1:44:15.479 pillaged all native pillage. Yeah yeah, so yeah so so. 1:44:15.680 --> 1:44:22.320 But but you know, French France, notwithstanding things that I 1:44:22.479 --> 1:44:24.880 just mentioned, you know, there's a lot of culture there, 1:44:25.840 --> 1:44:34.080 very rich, you know, melting pot of different people, you know, Arabs, Africans, Jews. Yeah, 1:44:34.160 --> 1:44:36.720 so I really loved it that. And where else was 1:44:36.760 --> 1:44:39.880 you living. I was in Israel, I was in Jerusalem, 1:44:40.439 --> 1:44:43.839 you know, yeah, you didn't go straight back to Belize, 1:44:43.880 --> 1:44:45.680 and just now I went straight back to Belize. Why 1:44:45.680 --> 1:44:47.640 do you even stay there? Because you know what, you 1:44:47.680 --> 1:44:49.360 know what it was. I get a lot of flak 1:44:49.439 --> 1:44:53.680 for that. Okay, No, no, no, it's cool. It was 1:44:53.720 --> 1:44:56.280 good to address the flank. Okay, because people say, oh, 1:44:56.960 --> 1:45:00.840 you know, well number one, When I was getting ready 1:45:00.880 --> 1:45:04.920 to be deported, I had the most expensive lawyer, and 1:45:05.000 --> 1:45:06.680 I had a whole team of people that wanted to 1:45:06.760 --> 1:45:08.679 fight for me to stay. To believe, I mean, stay 1:45:08.760 --> 1:45:12.160 the State of the States. But my thing was, you know, 1:45:12.320 --> 1:45:15.200 freedom is a muss. I don't want to know. I 1:45:15.240 --> 1:45:17.280 don't want to be incarcerated. I don't want to spend 1:45:17.280 --> 1:45:20.760 a day in prison. You know, the United States. I 1:45:20.880 --> 1:45:23.439 love the United States. It is my second home. But 1:45:23.560 --> 1:45:26.280 I want to be free. I want to be free. 1:45:26.360 --> 1:45:28.639 You know. So they're telling you you're gonna be deported 1:45:28.760 --> 1:45:32.000 in jail, but you know, in the States, they're like, listen, 1:45:32.520 --> 1:45:35.599 we're gonna fight, We're gonna get a lawyer. I'm gonna 1:45:35.640 --> 1:45:37.400 make sure you stay. But you know, you gotta sit 1:45:37.479 --> 1:45:39.920 up for like six months, you know, six twelve months 1:45:40.360 --> 1:45:44.920 or more time. Yeah, And I'm like, no, I need 1:45:45.000 --> 1:45:48.920 to be free, you know, toorious b I g sat 1:45:48.960 --> 1:45:51.920 smoking trees and believes that's what I need to be 1:45:52.000 --> 1:45:55.720 thrown up. I don't smoke, but you know I drink. Okay, 1:45:55.760 --> 1:45:57.599 that's okay. Let'slet's take a shot to that man. Let's 1:45:57.600 --> 1:46:00.599 take a shot to that. Goddamnit. It used to set 1:46:00.640 --> 1:46:04.080 it up. Drink about bad you drink when I drink 1:46:04.120 --> 1:46:15.280 Caribbean And yeah. So when that entire process was happening, 1:46:16.200 --> 1:46:19.640 my thing was just freedom, you know. You know, it 1:46:19.760 --> 1:46:23.800 wasn't about being in the United States. It's after nine years, 1:46:24.720 --> 1:46:27.720 was about being free. So you know what, I love. 1:46:27.840 --> 1:46:31.960 Belize sent me to my people, and by God's grace, 1:46:32.840 --> 1:46:36.320 when the time is right, I'll be back in the 1:46:36.439 --> 1:46:43.920 United States on drink champs. But and that Caribbean stout 1:46:44.400 --> 1:46:47.160 and that regular Belican. It's only two rappers that got 1:46:47.240 --> 1:46:53.120 the borted slid it back. Rick, motherfucker. That's my brother too. 1:46:53.880 --> 1:46:56.280 He comes to Belize often, you know, because he does 1:46:56.400 --> 1:47:03.160 those performs on those cruises. Highest regards as wife Mandy. 1:47:03.320 --> 1:47:08.800 That's my sister Slickers, my brother, great guy. Um, you 1:47:08.920 --> 1:47:12.200 know supported me all throughout. You know, they send school 1:47:12.240 --> 1:47:16.679 bags to Belieze they send, you know, education scholarships to Belieze, 1:47:17.439 --> 1:47:20.080 you know, the first time they came to Belize, were 1:47:20.120 --> 1:47:22.920 connected like that. But for my my thing is to 1:47:23.000 --> 1:47:26.320 be free. I didn't want to be incarcerated. The day 1:47:26.400 --> 1:47:28.280 more so I went, I said, listen to send me, 1:47:28.520 --> 1:47:30.960 send me home, because they had six to nine months. 1:47:31.120 --> 1:47:33.960 You got to stay and then I would be the case. 1:47:34.120 --> 1:47:36.240 But I wanted to be free. And I got to belieze. 1:47:36.640 --> 1:47:38.160 You would have to stay in jail or wasn't like 1:47:38.200 --> 1:47:39.680 they said, you have to stay and be in a 1:47:39.680 --> 1:47:43.519 halfway house. No, you gotta stay, you gotta stay. No, no, no, 1:47:43.640 --> 1:47:46.519 you were in like um immigration jail. But I didn't 1:47:46.560 --> 1:47:47.920 want to be in any kind of jail. I wanted 1:47:47.920 --> 1:47:49.840 to be free. So when I got to believe, you know, 1:47:49.880 --> 1:47:51.960 I went to Belize. You know, the first things I 1:47:52.040 --> 1:47:59.240 did I went to education, to universities, to high schools 1:47:59.720 --> 1:48:05.000 for Harvard professors, John j professors I went to When 1:48:05.040 --> 1:48:08.479 I landed in Belize, I went from the airport to 1:48:09.920 --> 1:48:14.320 the girls and Boys home, to the home for foster kids. 1:48:15.760 --> 1:48:19.919 I went to prison, the prison of Belise in Belize 1:48:20.520 --> 1:48:24.400 too encourage my brothers and sisters and lift everybody up 1:48:25.320 --> 1:48:28.720 and I donated moneys. I did everything that I had 1:48:28.760 --> 1:48:32.439 to do, but I needed to be free. So I 1:48:32.520 --> 1:48:38.760 will go to Mexico City. I would go to you know, uh, 1:48:39.080 --> 1:48:45.120 Costa Rica, Panama, wherever they were Jewish communities, to go 1:48:45.360 --> 1:48:49.720 pray Sabbath and you know, go do my thing. I 1:48:49.800 --> 1:48:52.559 just want yeah, yeah, except that except let me ask 1:48:52.600 --> 1:48:54.759 you all the stepping because you shine, or they stepping 1:48:54.760 --> 1:48:57.400 you because you're a Jew. No, they accept me because 1:48:57.439 --> 1:48:59.680 when they see that the feeling and they see all 1:48:59.720 --> 1:49:03.160 the stuff that I do. Yeah, that's you know, that's 1:49:03.200 --> 1:49:07.400 something that Moses. Moses did when they see you said 1:49:07.479 --> 1:49:09.760 we need a cup bots like the Jewish kid, that's um, 1:49:10.280 --> 1:49:13.679 that's a farm. Were never on the farm community. We all, 1:49:14.120 --> 1:49:16.720 you're all together, everybody they eat what they grow. Is 1:49:16.800 --> 1:49:22.840 that the way you pronounced the we gotta fix it? 1:49:23.040 --> 1:49:26.240 One thing they know. But I just wanted to be free. 1:49:27.640 --> 1:49:30.719 I wanted to go anywhere I would go. So Friday 1:49:30.760 --> 1:49:34.920 will come voke the flight. I'm out. I'll come back 1:49:34.960 --> 1:49:38.920 on Monday. And then I was in Mexico City shooting 1:49:38.960 --> 1:49:42.280 the video. Shout out to my home girl and Steve 1:49:42.360 --> 1:49:50.040 O as well. Fatima, She's like stylisht quarter, she's stylished extraordin. 1:49:50.280 --> 1:49:54.120 She stole Swiss beats and and um metro not not 1:49:54.240 --> 1:49:56.560 metro booming. Sorry the other kid twenty one savage and 1:49:57.040 --> 1:50:00.439 all these hot kids. That was my stylus that video. 1:50:00.479 --> 1:50:03.760 So I was shooting a video in Mexico City and 1:50:04.040 --> 1:50:06.479 it was Russia. Shanna, that's the New Year, That's the 1:50:06.560 --> 1:50:09.360 Jewish New Year. And so every year when I was 1:50:09.439 --> 1:50:13.240 incarcerated for nine years, I would say next year in Jerusalem. 1:50:14.000 --> 1:50:19.960 And Jerusalem is the frequency center of the universe Christians, 1:50:20.000 --> 1:50:25.000 of the Muslims, of the Joosa, even Buddhist that's the 1:50:25.120 --> 1:50:28.840 nuclear center of the world. Right, So anyway, every year 1:50:28.880 --> 1:50:31.320 I would say next year in Jerusalem. So when I 1:50:31.439 --> 1:50:35.519 was in Mexico City, you know, I had the paper 1:50:36.520 --> 1:50:39.360 I scored to Jerusalem, so I was just gonna go 1:50:39.479 --> 1:50:42.400 there for a couple of days, maybe a week, and 1:50:42.520 --> 1:50:45.439 I just I just stayed there, you know. But it 1:50:45.520 --> 1:50:47.599 was about my freedom. And they got clubs in jerusale 1:50:48.320 --> 1:51:00.280 that's Televisa. I don't know where Jesus is buried. Jesus too, 1:51:00.960 --> 1:51:06.320 it's not it's next to queen, next next to you. 1:51:06.400 --> 1:51:10.800 Try to hit me with ayth you can say to 1:51:10.880 --> 1:51:22.280 me you got you got me. I'm the drink change. 1:51:24.760 --> 1:51:31.280 I want you to know I want to be ederate 1:51:31.360 --> 1:51:34.559 what I was saying earlier. The best year of my life. 1:51:37.800 --> 1:51:40.960 And it wasn't about making now that I'm older, it 1:51:41.080 --> 1:51:45.280 wasn't about making money. It wasn't about having exposure. It 1:51:45.360 --> 1:51:51.880 was about having freedom. You know. Um, I recently watched 1:51:51.920 --> 1:51:57.559 you know Cardy come here. That's the biggest show, right, 1:51:57.880 --> 1:52:00.479 yeah it is. And then I but with that's that's 1:52:00.520 --> 1:52:03.040 that's not why it was. That's the biggest to me, 1:52:03.240 --> 1:52:05.840 to affected me. I recently watched his man just walk 1:52:05.880 --> 1:52:10.160 around by himself. I didn't like that. I'm driving a 1:52:10.360 --> 1:52:13.120 hoop tie where they called the hoop like all the 1:52:13.160 --> 1:52:17.200 way up the block with all my bags. I feel 1:52:17.200 --> 1:52:20.720 like economy too. But we all wanted a hoopie and 1:52:21.120 --> 1:52:23.800 what it's called us freedom? What it called us to do? 1:52:23.960 --> 1:52:26.880 Whatever the fun. Stephen Victors, he's on the peach and yes, 1:52:27.000 --> 1:52:31.000 yes he's he's freedom as well. Yes, what I'm trying 1:52:31.000 --> 1:52:38.559 to say is in that tiny eight me get back 1:52:38.600 --> 1:52:41.479 to the point I was trying to make eight. It 1:52:41.600 --> 1:52:50.439 was me dmx Cannabis, Cameron Cappadonna, corrupt cannabis. Was that God? Yeah, 1:52:50.520 --> 1:52:54.800 he was, and he was this was it was hard, yeah, right, 1:52:54.880 --> 1:52:58.479 this was O. And then out the blue they say 1:52:58.560 --> 1:53:02.000 this is this guy named Sean and we're all like, 1:53:02.160 --> 1:53:06.160 who the fucking Seine? Why I got talking about him? 1:53:06.680 --> 1:53:10.360 Where's his fads? Where's this thing that you guys are 1:53:10.360 --> 1:53:12.080 talking when you was one of them guys like why 1:53:12.120 --> 1:53:16.439 the fucking kind of might open? Those guys mean definitely, 1:53:17.920 --> 1:53:20.479 let's drink to that. We gotta drink to that. We 1:53:20.560 --> 1:53:23.680 gotta drink to that. Drink about the first day. I 1:53:25.160 --> 1:53:27.120 don't know if you remember, you gotta drink we gotta 1:53:27.160 --> 1:53:33.720 drink that. So solo, the rumor on the street was 1:53:33.960 --> 1:53:36.280 this guy no record. That's why I kept asking. I 1:53:36.320 --> 1:53:39.240 don't know if you'll remember earlier, I kept asking, when 1:53:39.560 --> 1:53:42.160 was the record that started? He explained it it's because 1:53:42.200 --> 1:53:45.800 it was just him. But by the way that was 1:53:45.880 --> 1:53:50.679 the first Instagram his was and the way that it's spread, 1:53:51.439 --> 1:53:54.000 it spread like something viray on Instagram. Well that's what 1:53:54.160 --> 1:53:56.400 viral was back then, That's what word brow them out 1:53:56.680 --> 1:53:59.320 them out And I kid, you know, I'm not being 1:53:59.360 --> 1:54:03.479 I'm being honest as an outside of looking in I 1:54:03.680 --> 1:54:07.479 was like, who is this guy and how how does 1:54:07.560 --> 1:54:11.200 he have such a like having a buzz without a 1:54:11.360 --> 1:54:16.080 record was unheard of. You couldn't You had to be 1:54:16.160 --> 1:54:21.880 on clues tape starting, starting it, starting it. That means 1:54:21.920 --> 1:54:23.519 that you could have been number seven on clue tape 1:54:23.560 --> 1:54:26.680 and mother like that, ain't it? Because it was the 1:54:26.760 --> 1:54:30.360 first five slots and then seven, eight, nine and ten 1:54:30.680 --> 1:54:34.400 and thirty one. No one to listen to the it's 1:54:34.440 --> 1:54:37.880 the first seven spots. I'm that serious. I'm not even 1:54:37.880 --> 1:54:39.440 if I'm not even playing around. I think people into 1:54:39.480 --> 1:54:42.520 the whole tape. But go ahead, not if you wanted 1:54:42.520 --> 1:54:44.560 to be on top of what if you want to 1:54:44.600 --> 1:54:47.640 be what I'm saying clue tape. Do you know it 1:54:47.760 --> 1:54:50.360 was the first ten songs? Maybe ten, I'll tell you 1:54:50.400 --> 1:54:52.800 it's the first seven. I'm telling you that meant something 1:54:52.920 --> 1:54:55.880 to the world. Hot ninety seven were literally because there 1:54:55.920 --> 1:54:57.640 wasn't no power one or five back then. They were 1:54:57.640 --> 1:54:59.680 looking to the listen to the first ten clue songs 1:54:59.720 --> 1:55:02.040 of the were seven clue sauls and those songs will 1:55:02.080 --> 1:55:05.680 be added to rotation. That's literally how the world was 1:55:05.800 --> 1:55:08.520 at one point. So I say that to say it's 1:55:08.520 --> 1:55:12.600 all bigging you up. Just let's let's roll. I said 1:55:12.680 --> 1:55:15.160 to say, you had none of that, and you had 1:55:15.560 --> 1:55:19.280 the world saying, I'm giving him a one man deaf jams. 1:55:19.600 --> 1:55:24.960 I'm giving him one point to um electure Sylvie Rune. 1:55:26.320 --> 1:55:31.640 Come on, Jimmy Ivan. Jesus, you know Jimmy Ivan is 1:55:31.680 --> 1:55:34.800 so important because right now Stephen Victor he got that. 1:55:34.880 --> 1:55:37.200 Jimmy I v money too. Yes, you know what Stephen Victor. 1:55:37.880 --> 1:55:41.720 With Stephen Victor him, don't just talk fly. He gives back. 1:55:42.400 --> 1:55:46.000 He's given like you know, a hundred thousand two, believes 1:55:46.080 --> 1:55:54.600 in education funds. Goddamnit. He's giving much. He's given um. 1:55:54.800 --> 1:55:59.360 He's giving me money to sign artists and believe he's 1:55:59.360 --> 1:56:01.680 giving me mom money. Yuse my money is like millions 1:56:01.720 --> 1:56:04.320 of dollars. So we're not we're not. We're not there. 1:56:05.120 --> 1:56:07.960 As far as the charity money, he's making sure that 1:56:08.040 --> 1:56:12.000 charity money there. But Jimmy Irvine, you know, Stephen Victor 1:56:12.080 --> 1:56:13.920 reminds me of a young Jimmy Avine. And I told 1:56:13.960 --> 1:56:15.720 him that you'll tell you beautiful, No, he'll tell you. 1:56:16.320 --> 1:56:18.640 I told him this thirteen years ago. I said, listen, 1:56:18.760 --> 1:56:21.200 I told you that the house avaliable. That's all you 1:56:21.240 --> 1:56:24.640 gotta do. And the black Jim got a house, a house. 1:56:24.800 --> 1:56:27.080 He got a dog when he got the house. But anyway, 1:56:27.480 --> 1:56:28.960 I want to shop for that. I feel like I 1:56:29.000 --> 1:56:34.000 feel like that. That's that's only Caribbean like one. I'm 1:56:34.040 --> 1:56:37.720 doing all y'all drinking like it's all beliefs. It's all beliefs. 1:56:37.800 --> 1:56:42.640 I noticed that I went to Dominican Republan. But let 1:56:42.720 --> 1:56:47.520 me call in this episode all beliefs, beliefs all my 1:56:47.560 --> 1:56:54.200 mom but Jimmy, Jimmy Ivine, Jimmy Ivine told me, you 1:56:54.280 --> 1:56:55.960 know when I went to UM, when I went to 1:56:56.040 --> 1:56:58.920 sign with him, when he interviewed me, look at the 1:56:59.040 --> 1:57:02.200 main kids are they always want to charm in his 1:57:02.920 --> 1:57:05.680 isn't his entype of thing was? You know, you gotta 1:57:05.720 --> 1:57:09.880 be self contained. I don't want to sign UM. I 1:57:09.960 --> 1:57:13.200 don't want to sign nobody that I gotta manage and 1:57:13.360 --> 1:57:17.240 I gotta, you know, micromanage. And you know that's why 1:57:17.280 --> 1:57:19.280 I said, you know, I give a round of applause 1:57:19.320 --> 1:57:21.400 and Steve the victor, because that's what I'm telling my 1:57:21.560 --> 1:57:24.920 artists right now. And believe I can't make them a hit. 1:57:26.120 --> 1:57:30.360 I can't wave a magic wand and they'll be famous tomorrow. 1:57:31.000 --> 1:57:33.880 But if they work hard, if they're determined, if they 1:57:33.960 --> 1:57:36.280 want them to run through the brick wall the way 1:57:36.320 --> 1:57:39.960 I was, if they're wanting to jump into Miami Beach 1:57:40.480 --> 1:57:46.360 see and swim to Cuba to believe that Jamaica, they'll 1:57:46.440 --> 1:57:49.240 get there. But I'm not gonna wait for one for 1:57:49.320 --> 1:57:51.400 them to get there and get them the holy Grail. 1:57:52.080 --> 1:57:54.120 They gotta, They gotta find the holy They gotta like 1:57:54.200 --> 1:57:59.880 you found. That's beautiful. So you once said hip hop 1:58:00.600 --> 1:58:04.400 it's not the cause for violence in America. Hip hop 1:58:04.480 --> 1:58:10.760 and responsible for responsible for the violence as in America. 1:58:10.800 --> 1:58:13.760 It's a very deep statement, sir. You know, but I 1:58:13.920 --> 1:58:18.400 wanna we gotta drink to Uncle Joe because I don't 1:58:18.480 --> 1:58:20.680 like calling him out. No, no, I call him Uncle Joe. 1:58:20.760 --> 1:58:22.880 That's my guy. Don't get between me and Uncle Joe. 1:58:22.960 --> 1:58:25.240 We got a thing. I'm an independent, We got a thing. 1:58:25.360 --> 1:58:32.760 You could all right, You gotta brown always wasn't definitely 1:58:32.800 --> 1:58:39.480 not Uncle Joe. Uncle excuse me, Hold on, Joe. She's 1:58:39.520 --> 1:58:42.680 with she's with the other guy. I'm not even gonna 1:58:42.680 --> 1:58:47.640 say his name. Yeah, that's a bad omen. President President Biden. 1:58:48.480 --> 1:58:51.720 What I like about President Biden. It's the fact that 1:58:52.120 --> 1:58:53.880 I love how we're talking politics for the first time. 1:58:54.000 --> 1:58:56.960 The fact that you know, he said he was gonna 1:58:57.040 --> 1:59:02.520 do one, two, three, four five, and he's doing that, 1:59:03.640 --> 1:59:08.000 So like what what you voted? Listen. I love Kanye. 1:59:08.760 --> 1:59:16.560 I love over this episode. Listen. Listen, listen, listen part 1:59:16.600 --> 1:59:20.360 of part of I'm not part of the brotherhood. But listen, 1:59:20.480 --> 1:59:24.080 Kanye ain't get elected. I got elected. He got a 1:59:24.560 --> 1:59:28.360 ten billion, right, he got that over me. But he 1:59:28.440 --> 1:59:31.840 didn't get elected. I got elected. He failed on that one, 1:59:32.240 --> 1:59:34.120 so I got him out on it. But that still 1:59:34.240 --> 1:59:38.240 my brother. So we could trade notes. It's a strawberry switch. Yeah, 1:59:38.280 --> 1:59:42.000 I'll do that. But the point, the point I'm making this, um, 1:59:42.200 --> 1:59:47.240 you know President Biden, he said infrastructure, he said he 1:59:47.400 --> 1:59:50.600 was gonna, you know, do this, do that. Black agenda, 1:59:51.200 --> 1:59:53.760 just a black agenda we're getting. Then. See that's why 1:59:53.760 --> 1:59:56.400 I don't like no, no, no, but but you can't 1:59:56.800 --> 1:59:59.280 we need that. First only been a year, but he 1:59:59.520 --> 2:00:03.800 was born Rack Obama right hand man ship. No, it's 2:00:03.840 --> 2:00:06.280 only been a year. It's only been a year. And 2:00:06.360 --> 2:00:09.240 I'm telling you, I'm telling you right here on drink 2:00:09.360 --> 2:00:14.400 Champs I'm going to meet with President Biden and you know, 2:00:14.520 --> 2:00:17.880 I'll discussed. I like that agenda you got here. But 2:00:18.600 --> 2:00:21.080 Obama didn't have a black agenda. But I'm not unless 2:00:21.160 --> 2:00:23.800 he had. He had, he had an American agenda. We 2:00:23.840 --> 2:00:25.680 can't do that. We can't. And what I'm telling you, 2:00:25.880 --> 2:00:32.480 I'm telling you, Rep. Uh baby uh Rep. How came 2:00:32.560 --> 2:00:39.720 Jeffreys's on? Hold on, hold on hold on the Congressional 2:00:39.840 --> 2:00:45.080 Black Caucus they all standing up clapping right now because 2:00:45.240 --> 2:00:51.920 they brought this infrastructure bill, bipartisan bill the past, and 2:00:52.040 --> 2:00:57.320 that's the Congressional Black Caucus. So obviously this infrastructure bill 2:00:58.240 --> 2:01:01.720 is affecting black people and it's benefiting black people. I'm 2:01:01.760 --> 2:01:05.200 telling you the head of the Congressional Black Caucus. You 2:01:05.320 --> 2:01:09.080 go to her page, she's like, oh yeah, we just 2:01:09.240 --> 2:01:13.600 passed this bill and the Congressional Black Caucus is responsible for. 2:01:13.720 --> 2:01:20.160 So what I'm saying is President Biden, he's delivering. And 2:01:20.880 --> 2:01:24.520 I'm telling you he's delivering. We can't, we can't, we 2:01:24.640 --> 2:01:29.000 can't eat, we listen, we can't eat, can't, we can't 2:01:29.040 --> 2:01:34.040 do everything in one day. But I'm telling you he's deliverment. 2:01:34.560 --> 2:01:37.480 I'm you know, I'm happy that he's making moves, and 2:01:37.560 --> 2:01:41.320 I wish that in Belize. You know, the government would 2:01:41.360 --> 2:01:44.560 do what they said that was gonna do, because they're 2:01:44.560 --> 2:01:46.440 not doing what they said that was gonna do. Joe 2:01:46.560 --> 2:01:52.960 said infrastructure, and Joe just delivering infrastructure with the Republicans supported. 2:01:53.280 --> 2:01:58.120 Because I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a Republican. I'm 2:01:58.160 --> 2:02:02.880 a moderate. I'm an mit him. I'm for whatever is 2:02:02.920 --> 2:02:07.760 best for people. I understand what Republicans say, I understand 2:02:07.800 --> 2:02:12.280 what Democrats say, and I'm for what's best for Belize 2:02:13.280 --> 2:02:17.880 and what's best for people. Yeah. So yeah, Jesus, I 2:02:17.960 --> 2:02:20.800 give Uncle Joe the chance. You're not gonna change my mind. 2:02:21.240 --> 2:02:23.400 Kanye still my man, but Uncle Joe getting the chance. 2:02:24.200 --> 2:02:31.320 Drink to that Uncle Joe. I'm on music questions because 2:02:31.360 --> 2:02:35.120 she got real all right, How was it working with 2:02:35.200 --> 2:02:38.760 Nate Dog because you know there's so many people know 2:02:39.160 --> 2:02:43.920 I'm talking trying to remember who hit me with that song? 2:02:44.360 --> 2:02:51.840 Um behind the Wall, Yep, I got the call and 2:02:51.880 --> 2:02:54.400 did you go last? But listen, I got the call. 2:02:56.920 --> 2:02:59.080 I'm not even I'm not even gonna hold you like that. 2:02:59.240 --> 2:03:01.920 That's Victor's that's term. You're not gonna hold you. I'm 2:03:01.920 --> 2:03:03.840 not even gonna hold you. I was not in the 2:03:03.960 --> 2:03:06.880 studio with when they're doing you never met him or 2:03:06.960 --> 2:03:08.560 did you meet him? You met him? I'm not sure 2:03:08.560 --> 2:03:10.480 if I met him, but I wasn't in the studio 2:03:10.560 --> 2:03:14.040 with him for that song. I was driving around New 2:03:14.160 --> 2:03:18.600 York City and that Bentley and god damn small sething 2:03:18.680 --> 2:03:21.400 like that. I had that six hundred, the Bentley and 2:03:21.440 --> 2:03:23.360 the brain Drover. I don't even remember the name of 2:03:23.400 --> 2:03:25.839 that watch you got on, right, you got this the Masterpiece. 2:03:25.920 --> 2:03:27.160 This is what I got on it? Like happy, So 2:03:27.280 --> 2:03:29.400 I had the Platinum master Yeah, I had to Platinum 2:03:29.400 --> 2:03:32.480 master Piece. You got to gold joint, gold down. People 2:03:32.480 --> 2:03:35.120 don't even know what that is. Right, I had to 2:03:35.160 --> 2:03:37.320 plant in the master you got two thousand one. But 2:03:37.440 --> 2:03:51.160 I had you know right now? Yeah he was. I 2:03:51.240 --> 2:03:54.200 was outside, Oh damn my bu shopping speaking of yours, 2:03:54.400 --> 2:04:02.920 hold on, hold on, you know, I got relaxed. But anyway, 2:04:03.000 --> 2:04:05.680 I was. I was driving around New York City and 2:04:05.720 --> 2:04:11.360 that Benyonnage and that Platinum Masterpiece. Um, and I got 2:04:11.440 --> 2:04:14.920 the call. It was like, yo, corrupt, you know what 2:04:14.960 --> 2:04:17.880 I mean? They want you. I want you to hit 2:04:17.960 --> 2:04:24.240 that remix. You know corrupt, corrupt? Is that guy that 2:04:24.400 --> 2:04:30.080 super talent, the whole cruel dog, you know what that 2:04:30.200 --> 2:04:33.800 so for me, it was like honor. It's like you 2:04:33.880 --> 2:04:36.160 got the call from them, you know. I want to 2:04:36.200 --> 2:04:38.880 give Swiss beats his flowers as well. He was like 2:04:38.960 --> 2:04:43.120 one of the first guys that hit me. Um. When 2:04:43.160 --> 2:04:48.560 the album dropped, it was like, and that's how we 2:04:48.720 --> 2:04:54.160 ended up doing Shine, which was on his album. I 2:04:54.240 --> 2:04:59.200 forgot the name of his album, his first album, I 2:04:59.360 --> 2:05:03.520 want that drink to each of the compilation compilation. Um, yeah, 2:05:04.360 --> 2:05:07.800 has to be right. He called me for that record. 2:05:08.040 --> 2:05:09.880 That was one of the best records I ever did. 2:05:10.720 --> 2:05:14.160 Get pulled up in the noge, you know, because Benny's 2:05:14.200 --> 2:05:17.320 was That was like thing back then again to my 2:05:17.520 --> 2:05:23.920 young African American brothers, Latin American brothers, don't spend what 2:05:24.080 --> 2:05:29.680 you don't have. Save your money, invests, grow your money, 2:05:30.520 --> 2:05:32.480 you know, don't you know, don't spend what you don't have. 2:05:32.640 --> 2:05:34.760 But anyway, back then, spending what you don't have, that 2:05:34.880 --> 2:05:39.720 was a part of the culture. Spending, not making just 2:05:40.000 --> 2:05:45.920 every now and then, I like to do it. Man. Anyway, 2:05:45.920 --> 2:05:49.120 I was driving around the town and your Swiss call me. 2:05:50.080 --> 2:05:54.000 He made that beat, but can we play that? Dude, 2:05:54.040 --> 2:05:55.880 got the music up? You got my man already Google 2:05:55.960 --> 2:05:59.000 and other year you got the shine. Definitely pull it up. 2:05:59.040 --> 2:06:04.280 I got enough that it was crazy. What was the 2:06:04.560 --> 2:06:09.160 was all my mot Mabel women? Just shine got me? Anyway? Anyway, 2:06:09.200 --> 2:06:16.320 Swiss called me, Yeah, yeah, but it's on the Gulf. No, 2:06:16.520 --> 2:06:21.280 that's the song that he had a compilation. Yeah, anyway 2:06:21.920 --> 2:06:25.680 to look at this, it's catalog on Wikipedia. Well yeah, 2:06:25.720 --> 2:06:31.840 so um yeah, just the record right here. Yeah, I 2:06:31.880 --> 2:06:35.800 think I thought, yeah, yeah, but that was twist. I 2:06:35.840 --> 2:06:38.960 started on Swis. Listen, I did not write this verse? 2:06:40.040 --> 2:06:43.720 What I did not write this verse? Stop? Swiss was 2:06:43.840 --> 2:06:48.440 on Fort Street between right the next street after Daddy's 2:06:48.520 --> 2:06:51.760 house studios. I went to the studio. I had the 2:06:51.840 --> 2:06:54.600 Long John's same thing that I said in the wrap. 2:06:54.680 --> 2:07:00.560 I had the Long John fitted U tupoc Timberland's our 2:07:00.640 --> 2:07:04.080 knowledge Bentley. I went up in a joint. He made 2:07:04.120 --> 2:07:09.080 this beat and I listened to the beat for like 2:07:09.240 --> 2:07:12.360 ten minutes, fifteen minutes, the freestyle, the rap, and then 2:07:12.400 --> 2:07:14.720 I made this rap. If you said you didn't write it, 2:07:15.240 --> 2:07:19.560 I made that rap freestyle. I made that rap. I 2:07:19.640 --> 2:07:23.840 had a conversation. But your freestyle, no want wrote it 2:07:23.960 --> 2:07:28.720 for You did your freestyle. It's the way you did it. 2:07:28.800 --> 2:07:30.760 Our fans are sucking vicious, So I had to make 2:07:31.520 --> 2:07:34.800 sure there's a difference with your freestyling and writing it 2:07:34.840 --> 2:07:38.680 in your mind. In my mind saying like J no 2:07:38.800 --> 2:07:40.320 no no. So you're trying to say you did this 2:07:40.400 --> 2:07:43.080 before JA no no No, I didn't after j J. 2:07:43.280 --> 2:07:47.960 Was you heard just listen when you love music so 2:07:48.160 --> 2:07:51.800 much and that's all you do, which was I thank 2:07:51.840 --> 2:07:56.200 God forgetting to that phase with all I ever thought about, 2:07:56.320 --> 2:07:58.680 all I ever wanted to do was make music. So 2:07:58.760 --> 2:08:00.520 it's like I was going to court. I was facing 2:08:00.560 --> 2:08:04.360 twenty five years, you know, incarcerated for something that I 2:08:04.480 --> 2:08:07.560 didn't do, for defending my friend. And you know, when 2:08:07.560 --> 2:08:09.400 I would leave court, I would go home. I put 2:08:09.480 --> 2:08:13.800 on my you know, Thermo, my fitted my tuopop boots, 2:08:14.320 --> 2:08:16.640 and I get in my car, drive around and I 2:08:16.760 --> 2:08:19.560 go to the studio and I just have conversations on 2:08:19.760 --> 2:08:24.920 beats with with with all the big references that people 2:08:24.960 --> 2:08:28.280 give you, you don't ever see all the parallels and 2:08:28.400 --> 2:08:31.240 your guys lives with the single mother, the Caribbean, the 2:08:32.080 --> 2:08:36.680 the street stuff, that the only the only thing we 2:08:36.800 --> 2:08:41.160 have in common is we did two classic albums and 2:08:41.280 --> 2:08:43.440 then that was it. You don't think everything else is 2:08:43.560 --> 2:08:47.080 he went Caribbean. I guess you know, Brooklyn, I guess 2:08:47.160 --> 2:08:49.160 my mom like that. He's a big part of that. 2:08:49.360 --> 2:08:53.520 He went to heaven, you know, the rest his memory forever. 2:08:54.240 --> 2:08:56.680 You went to purgatory and I went to I went 2:08:56.720 --> 2:08:59.800 to correctional facilities, you know, because it was the same. 2:09:00.320 --> 2:09:03.560 Like you know, yeah, I was. I was buried a lot, 2:09:04.520 --> 2:09:08.560 you know, but but there's so many African Americans and 2:09:08.680 --> 2:09:13.960 Latino Americans and minorities that face that struggle, you know 2:09:14.000 --> 2:09:17.240 what I'm saying. So, so, yeah, that was a real struggle. Yeah. 2:09:17.480 --> 2:09:20.560 So so I'll tell you what, Um, not only was 2:09:20.600 --> 2:09:23.120 I excited, you know, you're my friend, like you know, 2:09:23.160 --> 2:09:25.080 I knew you for twenty years. If we go to 2:09:25.160 --> 2:09:27.000 about this battle too that you had with my song, 2:09:27.080 --> 2:09:32.880 what we talked about about that Mallory, Yes, yes, yes 2:09:32.920 --> 2:09:35.960 that's my sister, but but my sister system. So I 2:09:36.080 --> 2:09:41.080 went through your holder discography, right and because I'm excited, 2:09:41.120 --> 2:09:43.040 you know, just because you're my friend doesn't mean I'm 2:09:43.080 --> 2:09:46.400 gonna slack on my job, right, this is my job. 2:09:46.480 --> 2:09:48.720 I gotta do it. The only thing. Hold on, hold on, 2:09:48.800 --> 2:09:50.880 we gotta take a shot to you. Okay, But because 2:09:50.880 --> 2:09:53.880 you're doing an incredible job, thank you, But this is 2:09:54.120 --> 2:09:59.040 doing right. I like you becoming as I liked on 2:09:59.160 --> 2:10:03.280 the transition. Listen to transition to transition that you've made 2:10:04.440 --> 2:10:09.000 from you know, a rap, you know platinum artists making 2:10:09.080 --> 2:10:13.160 great records than reinventing yourself. Thank you, and being a 2:10:13.320 --> 2:10:19.600 bridge being a platform for hip hop. Thank you. It's incredible. 2:10:19.880 --> 2:10:22.080 But the only record right when I went through your 2:10:22.120 --> 2:10:25.400 holdest I really really did right, And the only record 2:10:25.440 --> 2:10:29.960 that even similar reminded me a big because now I 2:10:30.040 --> 2:10:32.800 could distinguish your voice. Back then, I didn't understand, like 2:10:32.880 --> 2:10:35.360 I was like cool, people say signs look real. I 2:10:35.440 --> 2:10:37.720 got that names will flow. Damn, that's kind of I didn't. 2:10:37.720 --> 2:10:39.320 I didn't think it was like that. But the only 2:10:39.400 --> 2:10:42.720 record I could see that sounded remotely a little like 2:10:42.920 --> 2:10:47.600 man was the record called Their Head No, because it 2:10:47.720 --> 2:10:51.880 reminded me of Gloria from a story like that's I was. 2:10:52.000 --> 2:10:55.040 I was telling the story. I was telling the story. 2:10:55.200 --> 2:10:57.680 Yeah you know what I'm saying. But if you that's 2:10:57.680 --> 2:10:59.640 the only But if you listen to that story that 2:10:59.720 --> 2:11:04.560 still it's crazy, No, it is, its insane. Yeah, but 2:11:04.720 --> 2:11:11.240 that story was from hanging with guys like Zip, Yes, 2:11:11.320 --> 2:11:15.640 hanging with you know, guys on the West Coast, you know, 2:11:17.240 --> 2:11:22.040 guys in Baltimore, guys in Atlanta that you know, we're 2:11:22.040 --> 2:11:24.400 really living that life. You know, rest in peace too, 2:11:25.320 --> 2:11:29.920 Anthony Wolf Jones, my brothers, the Homi. That's that's all 2:11:29.920 --> 2:11:33.560 my brother and I was the home all all the 2:11:33.680 --> 2:11:37.600 information that they were giving me. That that's what was 2:11:37.680 --> 2:11:40.720 really happening. And again that goes back, you know, to 2:11:40.840 --> 2:11:47.160 Oliver North, goes back to Ronald Reagan. You're on conscious 2:11:47.760 --> 2:11:56.600 you know, Noriega by how does that be? So? So yeah, 2:11:56.640 --> 2:12:00.760 all that information. Yeah, you know, big meat, big beach. 2:12:01.720 --> 2:12:04.080 He olden and dirt, you know what I mean, been around. 2:12:04.360 --> 2:12:08.480 He looked young, but he was there back back in 2:12:08.480 --> 2:12:14.320 the eighties. Crack cocaine ever. Wow. So we spoke about 2:12:14.440 --> 2:12:18.280 Nate earlier, right, but you also got the record called 2:12:18.360 --> 2:12:22.840 That's Gangster. You know, I'm gonna tell a secret right now, 2:12:24.000 --> 2:12:28.920 and I'm gonna give flowers. I'm gonna gives but not 2:12:29.120 --> 2:12:33.120 not just not just not just the d C who 2:12:33.240 --> 2:12:37.560 was the hero, and I picked every beat for the 2:12:37.640 --> 2:12:41.640 shann album. I'm I'm really the executive producers shot out. 2:12:43.760 --> 2:12:51.840 But I got that from Nahs the album I am 2:12:52.920 --> 2:12:56.520 with the Egyptian Flowership and he still had Queen's Bitch 2:12:56.520 --> 2:12:59.560 in the bat and he hit that that ain't gangster. 2:13:01.680 --> 2:13:04.520 I don't remember what the song it was that fake dogs, 2:13:05.200 --> 2:13:08.440 I don't remember what song was where he he had 2:13:08.480 --> 2:13:13.320 a rap that said that ain't gangster. And so I 2:13:13.440 --> 2:13:16.960 took that and I said, you know what, that's gangster 2:13:17.840 --> 2:13:22.800 from Commissary and your homies gangster, that s gangster. You 2:13:22.880 --> 2:13:26.000 know what made you pick that? Called float flooded with rocks, 2:13:26.160 --> 2:13:28.640 that's gangster. So I got that from nuns. That's the 2:13:28.680 --> 2:13:32.640 plane change. You ain't flood that, you know. I'm got 2:13:32.680 --> 2:13:37.560 that head. That's the factory. Let's take a shot of that. 2:13:39.640 --> 2:13:44.920 I take the train, I fly another episode, but you 2:13:45.040 --> 2:13:51.600 got another episode. So so when you came home, you 2:13:51.680 --> 2:13:55.920 also named the record label gang Land Records. Now the 2:13:56.160 --> 2:14:01.920 record label is Omni Belize Records. Every Thing believes any 2:14:01.960 --> 2:14:06.960 means everything you knew. I'll let us ask what everything everything? 2:14:07.520 --> 2:14:11.760 And are you interested? Let's just be clear and doing 2:14:11.840 --> 2:14:17.200 another shout out. You know Stephen Victor and I, you know, 2:14:17.280 --> 2:14:23.920 we're partners. We're doing a documentary. We're doing about let 2:14:24.000 --> 2:14:29.360 me rephrase that. We're doing a biodocumentary like biopic slash documentary. No, no, 2:14:29.640 --> 2:14:32.080 we're doing a biodocumentary. I don't know what that means. 2:14:32.120 --> 2:14:36.600 A biogury documentary. That means a documentary about my life. Okay, yeah, 2:14:36.800 --> 2:14:40.280 we're doing a bio movie means a movie about my life. Okay, 2:14:40.360 --> 2:14:42.880 that's like n w A and we're a rescripted. We're 2:14:42.920 --> 2:14:49.720 doing a TV series about my life. So all of 2:14:49.800 --> 2:14:55.760 those three assets will be a company with albums inspired 2:14:56.200 --> 2:14:59.320 by those assets. So the TV series, we hope, you know, 2:14:59.440 --> 2:15:01.960 that would be a couple of years. Because in Belize, Belies, 2:15:02.040 --> 2:15:09.720 there's a narco trafficking hub of you know, all of 2:15:09.800 --> 2:15:20.800 the cocaine from Venezuela, Colombia stops in Belize, going to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua. Unfortunately. 2:15:21.800 --> 2:15:24.360 Um so there's there's a lot of stories to tell, 2:15:25.320 --> 2:15:28.040 a lot of stories to tell. I definitely didn't know that. 2:15:29.080 --> 2:15:38.240 Did you get your Belie narkos Belie narcos, They got 2:15:38.400 --> 2:15:43.360 Belies Les Belies was in Narcos. We got the Belize Narcos. 2:15:43.600 --> 2:15:45.360 But again, Belize is not gonna be known for that, 2:15:46.760 --> 2:15:49.640 right because it's gonna be known for the first rap prime. 2:15:49.680 --> 2:15:53.000 Minister putting that out there, you know, I'll be the 2:15:53.280 --> 2:15:56.720 first rap prime When when? When is the time? You 2:15:56.800 --> 2:15:59.360 know that that could happen a couple of years? You know, 2:15:59.600 --> 2:16:04.280 we don't and we just legal beliefs, right, we don't know. 2:16:04.800 --> 2:16:09.560 You took that, we don't know, and you transition that 2:16:09.680 --> 2:16:15.600 into weeds. You're a real rapper, not change. But you know, 2:16:15.640 --> 2:16:18.400 I'm I'm I'm a member of the House of Representatives 2:16:19.160 --> 2:16:23.640 UM National Security Committee, and we just legalized weed. Yeah, 2:16:26.240 --> 2:16:29.080 so you know I got to take this opportunity to knowledge. 2:16:29.880 --> 2:16:34.560 You know, my friend um uh man, you're gonna make 2:16:34.640 --> 2:16:39.320 me forget her name with all these shots. Gloria from Washington, 2:16:39.480 --> 2:16:42.120 d C. They say glory for washing the heights. I said, 2:16:42.120 --> 2:16:45.160 I know how to not not glorious, not glorious form storia. 2:16:45.959 --> 2:16:49.960 I know how to Gloria. Gloria and my god Cal 2:16:50.080 --> 2:16:53.680 from Washington, d C. We're doing the um, We're doing 2:16:53.720 --> 2:16:58.840 the Cannabest. They're gonna do a cannabis festival. In beliefe Um, 2:16:59.080 --> 2:17:01.920 you need smoke Champs. So let me ask you. We're 2:17:01.920 --> 2:17:03.840 gonna fly you out. We're gonna feel us, We're gonna 2:17:03.879 --> 2:17:11.400 flood you because um, you have the biggest boss there was. 2:17:12.920 --> 2:17:15.720 We gotta talk about this house representative thing though, man, okay, 2:17:15.760 --> 2:17:18.040 let's come back to that talking about we don't know. 2:17:18.440 --> 2:17:20.080 I think, I just I just gotta established this one 2:17:20.120 --> 2:17:23.480 thing right, and then we're going to to my somebody 2:17:23.480 --> 2:17:25.040 and then we go to the House of representative problems. 2:17:25.920 --> 2:17:30.960 But the House of representative thing. But you and you 2:17:31.120 --> 2:17:33.960 locked up. You are, for lack of a better term, 2:17:34.040 --> 2:17:38.560 like we established earlier, the New York TUPAC, the industry TUPAC, 2:17:39.080 --> 2:17:42.440 and the world's TUPAC inspired so many people. You know, 2:17:43.320 --> 2:17:46.640 cheers my little brother Game one man, Yeah, changing my 2:17:46.680 --> 2:17:50.280 little brother Game, who never shot away from talking about 2:17:50.280 --> 2:17:53.120 how much I inspired him and how much you know, 2:17:53.959 --> 2:17:57.360 I contributed to his rap career. I inspired so many 2:17:57.440 --> 2:18:01.600 people so that that the numbers again. He was the 2:18:01.680 --> 2:18:04.840 first person a depth Jam gave two million dollars in jail? 2:18:05.040 --> 2:18:07.520 Was that something? Am? I wait? A much more than 2:18:07.600 --> 2:18:14.000 two millions? When then they game, you know, ch cheers 2:18:14.040 --> 2:18:19.520 to l a read l a read Kevin Liles three 2:18:19.600 --> 2:18:23.960 hundred Yeah, and um, but you in jail. How does 2:18:24.040 --> 2:18:27.200 this work? Do they put that in your commissary? Not 2:18:30.959 --> 2:18:35.160 how it works. They gave it to Mama Love, Mama, Mama, 2:18:35.360 --> 2:18:39.320 Mama Love. She was Mama Love getting check chears to 2:18:39.400 --> 2:18:43.360 my mother. Here's Mama Love. Mama Love got first with 2:18:43.480 --> 2:18:47.400 your mama Love. Mama Love got the first. She was 2:18:50.240 --> 2:18:54.080 every black mama there live in Belize as well. She 2:18:54.160 --> 2:18:56.039 was born in Belize. No, she's still in the six 2:18:57.000 --> 2:18:58.760 for all the time that I was in cons read 2:18:58.800 --> 2:19:02.800 that she never worked. Wow, today she doesn't work. That's amazing. 2:19:03.120 --> 2:19:06.840 I gave gave her all my royalties, all my assets, 2:19:07.200 --> 2:19:10.720 beautiful and music, and you know, take care of her beautiful. 2:19:10.879 --> 2:19:14.640 But you know she's been through a lot. Your only chet, 2:19:14.760 --> 2:19:19.039 seeing your baby, baby a child. You put her through 2:19:19.040 --> 2:19:21.840 a lot. I was only yeah. Yeah, So everything that 2:19:21.920 --> 2:19:24.560 I give to her she deserves. You know what I'm saying. 2:19:25.200 --> 2:19:27.080 It was funny that you broke up forty five Street, 2:19:27.200 --> 2:19:29.640 right because forty five Street. I don't know if you 2:19:29.720 --> 2:19:31.560 know when you said that, that was a student called 2:19:31.600 --> 2:19:33.920 sound on Sound. That's where we did. That's where I 2:19:34.080 --> 2:19:36.640 was we did all That's what I did. That's why 2:19:36.680 --> 2:19:40.800 I did the first song to my album U. That's 2:19:40.840 --> 2:19:42.360 why I wants you to see Big by the way. 2:19:42.560 --> 2:19:46.400 Only when survived we can people believe and get found 2:19:46.440 --> 2:19:49.879 with their face waste. Everyone used to be like think 2:19:49.959 --> 2:19:52.039 Big was just being Daddy's house boat on low when 2:19:52.040 --> 2:19:53.920 he was going to be away from everyone, he would 2:19:53.959 --> 2:19:56.320 turn the course and go. But there's one day on 2:19:56.400 --> 2:20:00.160 Sound South, we're sitting there. We just had shots my 2:20:00.280 --> 2:20:04.560 South and then later on we filed out. It was 2:20:04.600 --> 2:20:07.800 like a junior Boflia Shine incident. That was on forty 2:20:07.840 --> 2:20:10.840 four Street, which was for very next blocks, which I 2:20:10.959 --> 2:20:13.360 did not realize. And you know, you know, Caesar is 2:20:13.440 --> 2:20:17.360 my god all these years, all these is he's like 2:20:17.440 --> 2:20:20.800 one of my biggest supporters. And you go on this page, 2:20:20.879 --> 2:20:23.760 you can see you know, I remember when we had 2:20:23.840 --> 2:20:28.080 the Bad Boy Um reunion. He's like he was one 2:20:28.120 --> 2:20:31.000 of the first people like yo, because I performed at 2:20:31.040 --> 2:20:33.160 the Bad Boy Reunion, you know, and he was like, 2:20:33.240 --> 2:20:36.000 you know, this is history, Like this is incredible moment 2:20:36.080 --> 2:20:40.959 in the hip hop, the rock. You know, b K Rule, 2:20:41.959 --> 2:20:44.959 you know Rule. Oh my guys, you know what I'm saying. 2:20:45.000 --> 2:20:47.879 But you know, things happen. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 2:20:48.000 --> 2:20:50.960 things happen. But those are all my guys, and I 2:20:51.040 --> 2:20:53.640 think you know a part of it's just like you know, 2:20:53.720 --> 2:20:56.120 with me now and believes in the House who representatives. 2:20:57.520 --> 2:20:59.360 You know, I'm paying my dues. You know, I'm paying 2:20:59.400 --> 2:21:03.040 my debt. You know. That's the reason I bring Caribbean Rum. 2:21:03.760 --> 2:21:06.520 But we like I bring Belikin, I bring ninety one. 2:21:06.680 --> 2:21:09.120 I didn't even give you all of it. All the 2:21:09.240 --> 2:21:12.959 shirts yea, everything where I got for you gonna wear 2:21:13.720 --> 2:21:16.440 other shows and everything. I'm just telling you know what 2:21:16.480 --> 2:21:19.320 I'm saying this, this is a reason because I paid 2:21:19.400 --> 2:21:21.720 my dues. I don't know who know what I'm saying. 2:21:21.720 --> 2:21:25.280 I don't know who, who's that, who's the But I 2:21:25.400 --> 2:21:28.199 paid my dues. So it's like even even with those guys, 2:21:29.480 --> 2:21:31.800 you know, sometimes you know, you don't know, you don't 2:21:31.800 --> 2:21:34.560 know what's going on. You're like, yo, I heard this, 2:21:34.760 --> 2:21:36.840 I heard that. This is a joint right here, this 2:21:36.920 --> 2:21:47.640 is you know what I'm saying. It's all right, let's yeah, 2:21:47.720 --> 2:21:50.360 I'm gonna come to the end. But yeah, so like 2:21:50.480 --> 2:21:52.280 with that, you know, just for me, I'm gonna take 2:21:52.320 --> 2:21:59.040 this one. But if we wanted that one, you know, 2:21:59.640 --> 2:22:03.440 my guy to your Maia d Rock, what's it this 2:22:03.600 --> 2:22:06.400 grac was there? Like well, I think you know it 2:22:06.480 --> 2:22:10.400 was just miscommunication. I brought to so working for you, 2:22:11.879 --> 2:22:13.879 I'll take minds immediately. I mean, put it all right, 2:22:16.040 --> 2:22:18.600 I'm into the interview. I can't believe put it on. 2:22:19.920 --> 2:22:22.040 Put it on my hats. Yeah, I don't put it 2:22:22.080 --> 2:22:23.920 on my hand. I got a half for I don't 2:22:23.959 --> 2:22:26.720 even have a worn a hat. Okay, you look like 2:22:26.800 --> 2:22:31.120 the Green Bay Pack. Hold on to it. I mean, 2:22:31.640 --> 2:22:42.360 oh yeah, got wrong. So was that, you know, not 2:22:42.520 --> 2:22:44.839 that that was just I think, you know, just miscommunication 2:22:44.879 --> 2:22:48.200 of you know, just not knowing you do, not understanding 2:22:48.280 --> 2:22:50.760 you know, you know, you know, just you know, but 2:22:50.879 --> 2:22:53.000 those are my guys, like the Rock is my man. 2:22:53.040 --> 2:22:57.640 We did with shots Fly was locked up together, really, 2:22:58.040 --> 2:23:00.840 I mean at the same time, maybe not the same facility. 2:23:01.480 --> 2:23:04.879 And it's always been loved because as you got the reports, 2:23:06.040 --> 2:23:09.360 they got the reports that shine as we used to 2:23:09.400 --> 2:23:13.560 say back in that time, it is official tissue. Yeah, 2:23:13.879 --> 2:23:19.000 God bless it's my god, God blest that right. She's 2:23:19.000 --> 2:23:21.040 the Luise hold on. Let me see believes you gotta 2:23:21.080 --> 2:23:23.560 do believes. So yeah, let's talk about it. Let's go 2:23:24.040 --> 2:23:25.959 let's talk about so everybody got to go to believes. 2:23:26.400 --> 2:23:29.320 You said you want to talk about Actually, so no, 2:23:29.360 --> 2:23:31.600 I just want everybody because before you even proceed, I mean, 2:23:31.600 --> 2:23:34.240 I don't know who's gonna get the sweatshirt, who has 2:23:35.400 --> 2:23:40.240 what I'm in? Who has better word waters, who has 2:23:40.320 --> 2:23:46.440 better waters Turks and cakeos or believes better waters. Let's 2:23:46.440 --> 2:23:50.800 be clear, Beliefs has better everything. Really, the one is 2:23:51.120 --> 2:23:54.160 everything is better in beliefs. That's the slogan. That's the 2:23:54.240 --> 2:23:58.560 slogan that I'm made up. Alright, cool, it's just throwing 2:23:58.600 --> 2:24:07.000 just in away like a spot so good. So bottom line, 2:24:07.040 --> 2:24:09.560 this is where we're leaving with this, right, Sean Police 2:24:09.640 --> 2:24:11.440 is the best place in the world, on the planet, 2:24:12.160 --> 2:24:14.400 definitely the best place to meet, but one of the 2:24:14.480 --> 2:24:17.160 best places in the world. I encourage everybody to visit. 2:24:17.640 --> 2:24:20.960 Please this your goal is to be prime minister. What 2:24:21.080 --> 2:24:25.880 do we do? Do me? Pop jay Z, Kanye West? Nah, 2:24:26.240 --> 2:24:28.280 I have to take a boat down there, and we 2:24:28.360 --> 2:24:32.360 got a campaign. Got about the bag right, got to 2:24:32.400 --> 2:24:35.480 change people's lives. I gotta change Stephen Victor. You know 2:24:35.600 --> 2:24:37.760 that's that's he got the bag. No, I'm just saying, no, 2:24:38.440 --> 2:24:41.720 you don't got the bag. He's giving the bag. He's 2:24:41.760 --> 2:24:45.760 getting on the PJ and he's flying to Belize on 2:24:46.000 --> 2:24:49.120 Garrett for the Sentiment Day, and he's giving away like 2:24:49.160 --> 2:24:52.480 a hundred thousand dollars. We gotta go, we gotta go. Man, 2:24:53.320 --> 2:24:59.119 He's not giving away. He's giving away for for scholarships 2:24:59.160 --> 2:25:04.800 for Armory School, scholarships for junior high, the scholarships for university. 2:25:04.800 --> 2:25:10.160 It's called Stephen victor Um Scholarship. Fun and then you 2:25:10.320 --> 2:25:16.280 have different different shiphip. I'm gonna be honest. We got 2:25:16.320 --> 2:25:19.280 the same initiationes be as me, be as as as 2:25:19.360 --> 2:25:24.960 to be so like whatever his donation is, Little pod So. 2:25:29.120 --> 2:25:31.959 I was playing around earlier, but now I'm serious. It's 2:25:32.000 --> 2:25:34.320 the goal to make you the prime minister for real? 2:25:34.680 --> 2:25:37.000 Would this ever be that? Like you know what I mean? 2:25:37.080 --> 2:25:40.000 Like like for awesome for real? She's like, can we go? 2:25:40.360 --> 2:25:42.440 And what does the prime minister mean? The Prime minister 2:25:42.600 --> 2:25:44.520 is the president? You know, you know what. It's lack 2:25:44.560 --> 2:25:48.440 of Joe Biden. It's all the things that you know. 2:25:48.680 --> 2:25:52.680 I compliment President Biden for doing I like to do 2:25:52.879 --> 2:25:57.720 for my people. I'd like to provide free education for 2:25:57.840 --> 2:26:00.640 my people where they don't have to go to a politician. 2:26:01.240 --> 2:26:07.480 But it's a part of the systematic UM operations. Health Care, 2:26:08.360 --> 2:26:11.640 you know, health care is still a problems. Access to 2:26:11.720 --> 2:26:15.400 health care still the problem. Minimum wage you know that 2:26:15.520 --> 2:26:18.400 the type of Yeah, we've got to raise the minimum wage. 2:26:19.080 --> 2:26:23.560 You know. Access to housing, affordable housing, UM, it's a problem. 2:26:23.959 --> 2:26:28.800 Access to funding, um, to start your own business, you know, 2:26:28.920 --> 2:26:31.880 because if you're a poor person, you don't got no credit, 2:26:32.760 --> 2:26:37.320 you don't got no savings, you ain't got nothing. But 2:26:37.560 --> 2:26:43.640 we as a government have to customize financing for people 2:26:43.720 --> 2:26:47.760 like that. You know. Land it's very important, um. You 2:26:47.840 --> 2:26:52.240 know the caboots that yeah, you talked about. We've got 2:26:52.360 --> 2:26:56.480 to teach our people to grow what they eat. We've 2:26:56.480 --> 2:26:59.080 got to teach our people to be self relying, even 2:26:59.160 --> 2:27:03.560 if it's animals, I mean, whatever, whatever it is, I 2:27:03.640 --> 2:27:06.560 mean to be self reliance. So we got to give 2:27:06.560 --> 2:27:10.720 our people land, you know, part of reparations. And in 2:27:11.520 --> 2:27:16.960 the when when when the man's the patient happened, the 2:27:17.080 --> 2:27:22.800 Africans throughout the Caribbeans were given nothing. They weren't given 2:27:22.840 --> 2:27:26.360 any land, they weren't giving any money. They weren't given 2:27:27.120 --> 2:27:32.320 any housing. They weren't given anything, right. Um, So part 2:27:32.360 --> 2:27:34.920 of farming is, you know, we used to pick cotton 2:27:35.080 --> 2:27:38.200 for a slave master. We used to farm for a 2:27:38.240 --> 2:27:42.000 slave master. We need to have our own land and 2:27:42.160 --> 2:27:46.120 farm for ourselves, for our own cottony do our own 2:27:46.240 --> 2:27:48.840 things be self sustained. And that's something that I want 2:27:48.879 --> 2:27:51.440 to teach the inter city, you know. So these are 2:27:51.440 --> 2:27:54.040 all the things that I bring to the table um 2:27:54.280 --> 2:27:57.160 when it comes to, you know, leading a country. But 2:27:57.240 --> 2:28:00.360 it's not about being the prime minister. It's about the lease. 2:28:01.760 --> 2:28:05.320 Even if I'm not the prime minister. It's about beliefs 2:28:05.400 --> 2:28:08.200 and whatever I could do to belize. Whatever I could 2:28:08.240 --> 2:28:10.840 do four beliefs, I want to do four belies. I 2:28:10.920 --> 2:28:17.039 love that shot man. You got you got anything ship? 2:28:17.160 --> 2:28:19.120 I think you covered it all. You got anything else 2:28:19.160 --> 2:28:22.200 you want to say? Because belize beliefs, beliefs. I see 2:28:22.240 --> 2:28:24.200 you guys in Belie for New Years. We want to 2:28:24.200 --> 2:28:26.800 see you. Got to be there at least I'm gonna 2:28:26.800 --> 2:28:33.440 be there coming home and Belie. Oh that's fine. Yeah, 2:28:33.840 --> 2:28:36.440 he got a series We Go Anywhere, not anywhere. Guy, 2:28:36.879 --> 2:28:39.480 to the way you're saying, this is how terrible brother. 2:28:40.200 --> 2:28:42.040 I go to different countries, but I want to go 2:28:42.080 --> 2:28:43.960 to Belize. Yeah he got he got a lot of 2:28:44.280 --> 2:28:48.920 safe ship's. Man, this is good to Belie. You know, 2:28:49.800 --> 2:28:53.920 our children are people and believes. They just need opportunity, 2:28:54.800 --> 2:28:57.360 they just need hope. And for the last forty years 2:28:58.160 --> 2:29:02.640 we've had politicians that are only concerned with themselves. And 2:29:02.920 --> 2:29:05.320 you know, once you have that, then you know, the 2:29:05.440 --> 2:29:10.560 people becomes canon cannibalism. You know, I got to eat. 2:29:12.560 --> 2:29:15.640 You know, my my young guy he left is in Coasa, 2:29:16.400 --> 2:29:20.280 not no Cosa was here. Yeah, this kid Coach that 2:29:20.400 --> 2:29:26.920 he produces with um Um Russian A Russian is the 2:29:27.040 --> 2:29:32.240 kid that produces for Vibes Cartel and and a bunch 2:29:32.280 --> 2:29:36.680 of the big Jamaican artists. Coast is a belief and 2:29:36.760 --> 2:29:39.280 kid grew up in Belize. When I first went back 2:29:39.320 --> 2:29:41.240 to Belize, one of the things that I did was 2:29:41.400 --> 2:29:44.520 I had a m a listen to the session every 2:29:44.600 --> 2:29:49.600 week with studio called Height Survibes. You know my bedron 2:29:49.680 --> 2:29:55.600 called father lie Fatherly, not Father Lether. And this kid 2:29:56.200 --> 2:29:58.400 Coosa was a part of that system. You know what 2:29:58.440 --> 2:30:02.520 I'm saying. You produced for Kevin Gates, Bad Bunny, Jay 2:30:02.560 --> 2:30:04.520 Bafflin all these guys, you know what I'm saying. So 2:30:04.640 --> 2:30:10.160 we got you know, um Man bust this guy um 2:30:10.760 --> 2:30:15.080 Ot Genesis, he's from believes. He's a guard Refunda. He's 2:30:15.080 --> 2:30:16.920 a guard refund of, just like me, you know what 2:30:16.920 --> 2:30:19.360 I mean. So you know what, We've got some some 2:30:19.480 --> 2:30:23.840 believes in stuff. Let's make some choice believes. You take 2:30:23.879 --> 2:30:27.240 a picture and do a couple of drops and yeah, 2:30:27.520 --> 2:30:31.600 thank you, thank you, thanks for joining us for another 2:30:31.640 --> 2:30:34.200 episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly, d J 2:30:34.400 --> 2:30:36.879 e f N and n R E. Please make sure 2:30:36.920 --> 2:30:39.240 to follow us on all our socials. 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