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Speaker 1: Right now we got velvet covers villain, so we're developing rock.
Speaker 1: We try to throw me off like I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: keep that first off. Let me just say something, man
Speaker 1: sis to the left of us right now. Not only
Speaker 1: was a person that came up, was honorable in the streets,
Speaker 1: held it down, came and I believe this is the
Speaker 1: first time we heard bad Boy gave a million dollar
Speaker 1: deal and then I heard it was another million on
Speaker 1: publishing this dude, I can't lie to you. I was there,
Speaker 1: I saw it He had one of the biggest buzzes
Speaker 1: in New York City, and I would be wrong if
Speaker 1: I say New York City, because he had one of
Speaker 1: the biggest buzzes in the industry. People were looking for
Speaker 1: a savior after Biggie Smalls, and this was the guy
Speaker 1: people came into, invested into. He got into one of
Speaker 1: the craziest incidents in New York City's history. He held
Speaker 1: it down, held it down like a man, came home,
Speaker 1: did it, didn't what he had to do, came home.
Speaker 1: Uh became a part of the government of Police, changed
Speaker 1: his whole life around and every aspect of everything he did.
Speaker 1: He was frail with it and he's still being real
Speaker 1: with it now. In case you don't know what we're
Speaker 1: talking about, we talked about shine. Motherfucker. No pos We
Speaker 1: just want motherfucker. You know what. I'll start with that.
Speaker 1: I'll start with that that woman introduction umps. But let
Speaker 1: me ask you about that. You know, we're all from
Speaker 1: New York. We all got the story that recently uh
Speaker 1: al Pole passed away, right, had his demise? Uh, what
Speaker 1: did what did you feel about that? Because you know
Speaker 1: you didn't name yourself after him at one point, you know,
Speaker 1: that that's a very um ironic situation because obviously I
Speaker 1: was faced with the same um circumstances that he was
Speaker 1: faced with, and I actually anticipated my circumstances. If you
Speaker 1: listen to the life on my first album, I got well,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, um, you know I'll be out
Speaker 1: in ten start over again. Um. But I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't understand if you ain't been through it, the
Speaker 1: rules to it. Couldn't break them death before the sign
Speaker 1: until I meet Satan um. So the way I got
Speaker 1: that name was a mixture of Edgar Allan Poe the
Speaker 1: Pope and out Poe because I was dating a female
Speaker 1: that was dating him, you know, popular female. She was
Speaker 1: an executive in the industry. Um. And so she called
Speaker 1: me that name because you know, when I was young,
Speaker 1: when I was eighteen years old, I was um, you know,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of energy. It's really aggressive. I
Speaker 1: had that Brooklyn aggression. So it's stranging. He's a halemn guy,
Speaker 1: you know, but I was flashy. I think that's that
Speaker 1: beliezing to me. Us beliezings. There's a word that you call.
Speaker 1: You call it breaking. You know, we we really confident
Speaker 1: and so I had that energy. Um. You know I
Speaker 1: had the six hunted, I had the you know, the
Speaker 1: double R. You had the double Lass as well, um,
Speaker 1: And you know, it was just a lot with me.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of flash, a lot of excitement.
Speaker 1: And she said, you know, I remind her of him.
Speaker 1: But thankfully, UM, I was not like him, you know,
Speaker 1: because I stuck to my honors and I stuck to
Speaker 1: my integrity. And you know, you're not a man or
Speaker 1: you're not a person of integrity until your face with
Speaker 1: a decision that you have to make where your life
Speaker 1: is on the line, when your freedom is on the line,
Speaker 1: that's when you know who you are. And I always,
Speaker 1: you know, pride of myself and having the utmost integrity,
Speaker 1: utmost character, and everything that I ever wrapped about a
Speaker 1: song about was was my gospel. It was the honest truth.
Speaker 1: And you know, I thank God that I didn't fail
Speaker 1: myself and I didn't fail my community in Brooklyn and beliees.
Speaker 1: You know, when the time came for me to decide
Speaker 1: whether or not I was gonna have integrity or honor,
Speaker 1: let's make some noise of that us. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: go through your musical history first, right, all right, before
Speaker 1: before I even get into this, how did you start rapping?
Speaker 1: What was it? You know? Um, usually I take the
Speaker 1: train and I walk. I'm thankful because you told me.
Speaker 1: For a lot of there was like you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't even leave believe yet, so I could have got
Speaker 1: a hotel right a head and then go to four
Speaker 1: A lot of that because I'm here in Florida for
Speaker 1: the Florida Trade Culture Expo. Because you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: government official. I'm the Shadow Minister of Foreign the Fairs, Diaspora, FIRS, Culture,
Speaker 1: Youth and Sports. Um, so that's why I'm hit. And
Speaker 1: you know, I know we spoke the last time. I
Speaker 1: promised you the next time world yea, yeah. So so
Speaker 1: the way I started rapping, and I said all that
Speaker 1: to say, I was driving and so you know I'm
Speaker 1: listening to Barrington Leavy. That's my first question, that one.
Speaker 1: You know, Um, but even Barrington before Butchers Barrington is
Speaker 1: like an institution. So so that's how I started rapping
Speaker 1: the same way Cool Hurt hip hop. Cool Hurt created
Speaker 1: hip hop. Yes, he's a Jamaican DJ that came to
Speaker 1: the Bronze and started spinning record So that's why I
Speaker 1: started rapping. You know, my name used to be Shaba Wow.
Speaker 1: That that's what he used to call me from Granny
Speaker 1: Kid the Grammy kids, and so that was my idol,
Speaker 1: you know. Um and I had the same baritone, same
Speaker 1: heavy voice. So I I used to actually chat you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to following the steps of Shoa and yeah,
Speaker 1: bounty killer Beanie. Those were the guy that was with
Speaker 1: a guy right, you know what I mean in in
Speaker 1: in the community that that I was raised. You know,
Speaker 1: they call it little Haiti now um. You know, but
Speaker 1: that whole Flatbush Church Avenue, you know, all the way
Speaker 1: up and down is you know, uh filled with people
Speaker 1: from the Caribbean. So initially I wanted to be you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to chat um. And then I transitioned. I
Speaker 1: transitioned into rat you know, but I wasn't. You know.
Speaker 1: Music saved my life, Bob Marley, you know I used
Speaker 1: to you know, I got shot when I was young.
Speaker 1: I was in the streets defending myself. Um. Very violent
Speaker 1: community is most inner city communities for African Americans and Latinos,
Speaker 1: and and you know, minorities grow up very violent, very predatory,
Speaker 1: very killer, be killed and so you know My mom
Speaker 1: was a single mother, laborer, you know, very stressed out
Speaker 1: her only boy. So when I got shot, I said, listen,
Speaker 1: you know, Mom, I promise I'm stay alive for you.
Speaker 1: You know, I won't get myself killed. I won't kill anyone.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn my life around. And so I started
Speaker 1: staying in the house and just listening to music, and
Speaker 1: Bob Marley used to calm me down, you know when
Speaker 1: you listen to Bob Marley, and I used to say, man,
Speaker 1: you know, this is the type of impact I want
Speaker 1: to have on the world. Wasn't a particular record or
Speaker 1: all Bama, all every thing. Johnny was a good man
Speaker 1: everything right, um and and you know, so my passion
Speaker 1: for music was always there, but I transitioned, like you know,
Speaker 1: I used to listen to guys like Terri Fabulous, you know,
Speaker 1: um all the great guy, super Cat, Um, you know
Speaker 1: Heavy D. You know he was the first to really
Speaker 1: watch that. But Heavy D mix that what you're making.
Speaker 1: So it was an easy transition for me. You know,
Speaker 1: I thought was cast on yeah the bridges over he
Speaker 1: was because he so um. But but you know I
Speaker 1: was really just in in a in a survival mode
Speaker 1: of trying to divorce myself from the jungle because I
Speaker 1: was a lion, you know, and and and you know,
Speaker 1: I would eat a lion, I would eat a gazelle.
Speaker 1: I would do whatever I had to do to survive,
Speaker 1: and I would try to divorce myself from that um.
Speaker 1: And that's how music, you know, saved my life because
Speaker 1: and I was just listening to all music you know,
Speaker 1: only built for Cuban links. You know, that's one of
Speaker 1: the records that changed my life. You know, it was
Speaker 1: written on you know, records like that because you know
Speaker 1: what what Ray Kwon and ghost Face was saying, it's
Speaker 1: the same thing Bob Molly was saying, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's social conscious music. Just in their dialect from Staton.
Speaker 1: Allen Nas was saying the same thing just in his
Speaker 1: dialect from Queens. You know, Nas and Ray and Ghosts
Speaker 1: they were thinkers, critical thinkers, and they were giving you
Speaker 1: the landscape of you know, uh, inner city living, Priega
Speaker 1: too before you were and all yeah, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: so you know, so those are some some of the
Speaker 1: records that had an influence on my transition from you know,
Speaker 1: wanting to chat to getting into hip hop because you know,
Speaker 1: Bob Marley inspired me to want to impact the world,
Speaker 1: and I was a leader in my community. I was
Speaker 1: the guy on the block saying, listen, you know, don't
Speaker 1: kill him. Come on, you know, why are you treating
Speaker 1: him different than you treat me. I was always the
Speaker 1: justice guy. You know why you're picking on the small guy?
Speaker 1: Pick on me? All right, you don't want to pick
Speaker 1: on me, Okay, leave him alone. I was the guy that,
Speaker 1: you know, anybody trying to come and terrorize our block,
Speaker 1: I'd hold down the fort. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: that's how I got the name Shane, because I'd be
Speaker 1: on the block saying, listen, is this all we're gonna do?
Speaker 1: I'm like Laurence Fishburn from Boys, and is this what
Speaker 1: we're gonna through? We're just gonna you know, kill each
Speaker 1: other and kill ourselves and be statistics. You know, let's
Speaker 1: figure it out. You know, all of the North you know,
Speaker 1: created free rade Roles, created all these guys, you know,
Speaker 1: all the be agents of destruction for our own community,
Speaker 1: like all the stuff. Now as we're saying it's high,
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I was a reader, critical thinker,
Speaker 1: and you know, like I said, I listened a lot
Speaker 1: about Molly, and he was a critical thinker and he
Speaker 1: had a message. And so you know, I was there
Speaker 1: killer be killed. I was there destroying, you know, being destructive,
Speaker 1: and I had enough and I was like, man, this
Speaker 1: can't be life. And that's when you start. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I was immersed in music, but I made the transition.
Speaker 1: I was always a poet, you know. But again, I
Speaker 1: wasn't a rapper, like, I wasn't out there battling. I
Speaker 1: wasn't going to ciphers because I was busy trying to survive.
Speaker 1: I was busy making sure that I stayed alive and
Speaker 1: trying to you know, divorce myself from that way of life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so how does this buzz start? Right? Because so so
Speaker 1: I I got shot, you know, I got low because
Speaker 1: you know, after you get shot, certain things happen and
Speaker 1: then you gotta get low. And I graduated high school
Speaker 1: as I promised my mom. And you know, when I
Speaker 1: graduated high school, I got a bike, eighteen speed bike
Speaker 1: for my cousin ron do to go deliver messages because
Speaker 1: I promised my mom, no like messages, passages um. And
Speaker 1: that's how I really that was the first text message.
Speaker 1: That's how I got into back like fully because I
Speaker 1: believe in a divine architect, intelligent designer. And the sacrifice
Speaker 1: that I made to not sell cocaine, to not sell crap,
Speaker 1: to divorce myself from the streets, and to just focus
Speaker 1: myself on, you know, a path that will see my
Speaker 1: mother have peace and security. UM really allowed for me
Speaker 1: to just I just started coming up with rhymes. I
Speaker 1: would like rhymes like on another level. I would deliver
Speaker 1: packages to sew need to death chain two you know
Speaker 1: UM for vending Universal and then I would you know,
Speaker 1: riding my bike, excuse me over the Brooklyn Bridge, and
Speaker 1: by the time I got to the bottom of the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Bridge, I would just come up with rhymes. But
Speaker 1: I was always a practical guy, never want to lie
Speaker 1: to himself, never wanted to you know, fool himself. You know,
Speaker 1: I always said, you know, I want my music to
Speaker 1: feel the way by Molly makes me feel. And I
Speaker 1: was always able to identify who was great. I wanted
Speaker 1: my music to feel to me the way Ray and
Speaker 1: Ghosts and nas you know, and and and and Jay,
Speaker 1: reasonable that I can't forget, reasonable, doubt, beg ready to die,
Speaker 1: chronic felt to me. And that's how I started feeling
Speaker 1: about my music. I felt that, you know, I felt
Speaker 1: that power, I felt that electricity, that frequency. So I
Speaker 1: started chasing that down all the street teams. When I'll
Speaker 1: be delivering my my packages, I started running everybody down.
Speaker 1: I started, you know, when I would go to Sony,
Speaker 1: I try to make my way back to the mail room.
Speaker 1: I go to Loud, I try to get to the
Speaker 1: mar room. And I was so convinced that what I
Speaker 1: had was powerful and I was gonna change the world. Um.
Speaker 1: One day I was getting my hair cut and I
Speaker 1: always tell the story that you know, barbershops are the
Speaker 1: place of truth. You know, um, wherever you are in
Speaker 1: your life, you want to know the truth, asked your barber,
Speaker 1: and that's the barber shop. They will uh pull no
Speaker 1: punchers and have no restraints. UM. So I always right
Speaker 1: for my barber. And you know, this Friday, a gentleman was,
Speaker 1: you know, leaving the barbershop, and I just you know,
Speaker 1: ran down on him. And so listen, man, you're in
Speaker 1: the music industry. This guy's name is Austin and uh
Speaker 1: he said yeah, and I hit him with a sixteen
Speaker 1: clip and he was like, you know, hold on, wait, right, here.
Speaker 1: You know, don't go anywhere you don't. He didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do with himself. He called Don Pool, okay
Speaker 1: from Inklint Chop House. You know, been around for ever
Speaker 1: since br G, since Foxy Brown. And you know I
Speaker 1: performed in front of Don Pool. Uh Imani Helly, you
Speaker 1: know Imani Helly Productions, movie Guard, you know future Nicki
Speaker 1: Minaj and I was it everybody that heard me, uh crazy.
Speaker 1: So this was a few months after graduating from high school,
Speaker 1: getting an eighteen speed bike to go deliver packages. The
Speaker 1: girls looking at me nasty at the front desks because
Speaker 1: I'd be wing there, you know, wet and you know,
Speaker 1: no raincoat, no nothing. Because I remember, like they said,
Speaker 1: this is this guy I can't forget Clark Kent, Okay,
Speaker 1: Clark Kent, Carl Kennis Brooklyn Okay, but I remember they
Speaker 1: saying this guy, shine, it's the next biggie, It's the
Speaker 1: next thing that's happening. But dude, was it a Phrae
Speaker 1: style that started the buzz or was it just like
Speaker 1: I'm saying you where it started it started it? Because
Speaker 1: it started right there. I'll take you through it, you know.
Speaker 1: So once I got with Don poo and Manny. You know,
Speaker 1: we just started going everywhere, moving around. You know, I
Speaker 1: rapped for jay Z you know, um yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know Don Pool was it don Pool get money,
Speaker 1: so you know he's everywhere. Um, you know Manny Mann
Speaker 1: he was getting money too. Um. So we beat there,
Speaker 1: you know, I beat it in my iceberg fits, you know,
Speaker 1: you know. And so I remember we were at the
Speaker 1: Metronome one Street Broadway and uh, you know, I ran
Speaker 1: down on on Hove and I was like, know, you know,
Speaker 1: you got your ratchet on him. You know that's what
Speaker 1: we called, you know, those who are not informed. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm the greatest thing you ever go ahead,
Speaker 1: and if I'm not, you know, you could shoot me
Speaker 1: in my foot. Oh my god. I was confidence right there,
Speaker 1: so listen. So so so then I ran back. I
Speaker 1: ran back. I ran back on him. And when he
Speaker 1: was at State Street, and I never forget that day,
Speaker 1: he came outside, um jumped in his robe. I told
Speaker 1: him the story the other day when I saw him
Speaker 1: at forty and um, that's what we were laughing about.
Speaker 1: If you look at those fishes, and he was like, yes, side,
Speaker 1: oh when you gave me your music after after that
Speaker 1: whole thing, give him the tape. Then I ran back
Speaker 1: on him to get the verdict. So you know, yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I was all right, I'm gonna see you on top.
Speaker 1: Try to sign me twice after that, three times after that.
Speaker 1: You know, um, but we really changed things. Is God
Speaker 1: bless the dead Chris Lighty. That's what transformed on everything
Speaker 1: coach and you can check to see if I'm specialists
Speaker 1: outside for me. Um, yeah, I got my guarded. Um,
Speaker 1: so tris Slighty because so so this is August, I
Speaker 1: meet Don Proo, Manny, we're moving around. Um, I think
Speaker 1: I even wrapped on the phone for Puff because I
Speaker 1: met Mark Pitts to what this is? Um, same time
Speaker 1: when you up trust me? So so so marm Pitts
Speaker 1: put me on the phone with um with Puff and
Speaker 1: Puffer is like, you know, how'd you go from Don,
Speaker 1: Peter Mark Pitts because they're all in the state. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, don't pull used to manage big. You know,
Speaker 1: we used to help Mark Pitts were big, and you
Speaker 1: know he had Foxy Brown in all one circle from
Speaker 1: the Howard days. And Puffer is like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could rap, but he makes as can you make
Speaker 1: hit records? I gotta teach you how to make some
Speaker 1: hit records. And you know, he fell back. He wasn't like,
Speaker 1: come to the office. I gotta sign him right, so
Speaker 1: you know, kept going. I was like, all right, Chris Lady,
Speaker 1: chrisl he called me to the Barrack Street des GM office, violator.
Speaker 1: Can I just you know, I got a believe in
Speaker 1: way now then, and I'm very m just been drinking
Speaker 1: this Milisian beer. We gotta you can't drink bout so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for you, you gotta let's course. Okay, let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 1: But because I want you to finish your story, because
Speaker 1: then I want to. I want to, Yes, I want
Speaker 1: to explain to you. Yeah, in case you didn't know
Speaker 1: how hot you were, like I want you to Finnish
Speaker 1: and I I don't want to. Yeah. So so Chris l
Speaker 1: like resting Priest christ Forge ahead, Yeah, this is this
Speaker 1: is very interesting, Belican stoup best being believed best in
Speaker 1: the world. So you know, I went to Chris Lady's office,
Speaker 1: and you know, Chris Ldy was like, you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I just got Snoop kid, you know, Swiss
Speaker 1: his name is Swiss? Okay, um, yeah, you know, he
Speaker 1: just gave me his beat tap, you know, pop it in.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm want to hear what you know everybody
Speaker 1: talking about. Uh. And he popped that tape in and
Speaker 1: I went eight. But he was like, you know the
Speaker 1: same thing like Don Proofs and the kid. Austin said,
Speaker 1: you know, all right, hold on, let's go to your office.
Speaker 1: Gonna sign you right now. You're not leaving Jam until
Speaker 1: sign you. So I went to Leo's office and you know,
Speaker 1: told me, listen, give him the business. So I gave
Speaker 1: Lee all the business or if god, he was sitting
Speaker 1: right there, you're just robbing. There's nothing on tape. Well,
Speaker 1: I did the rohmmed over the beats for Chris, which
Speaker 1: made him go crazy. He took the arm the same tape,
Speaker 1: the Swiss beats tape, took it in Leo's office. Rohmmed
Speaker 1: over those beats, and Leo was like, you know, I
Speaker 1: have to sign you now. But when you're saying, you're
Speaker 1: saying naturally, you're saying they're playing the beach and I
Speaker 1: think Bobby Smurder, I think him and Bob and and
Speaker 1: and that was really what what said. Everything on right,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, like Lyon was serious, Leon
Speaker 1: and Chris they wanted to sign me right there, right um,
Speaker 1: and I think they might have even sent the paperwork
Speaker 1: and then Puff flew me out to Beverly Hills, you know,
Speaker 1: like maybe a few weeks later. Okay, So let me
Speaker 1: stop it right there, let me stop Yeah, So let's
Speaker 1: let's drink this, say about because I was gonna be
Speaker 1: focused on a second because I was there, like not
Speaker 1: there physically, but I was the person that was hearing
Speaker 1: you know this this new dude after Sorry, that was yes,
Speaker 1: that was seven when all of this was happening. So
Speaker 1: Chris Ldy, Dawn pro Mark Pitch, that was seven because
Speaker 1: when I when I met you, right when I met you,
Speaker 1: even before I met you, there was this big buzzing
Speaker 1: industry like it was like everyone has to sign this
Speaker 1: guy shine. But so I'm Chris Ldy, God bless his soul.
Speaker 1: In my humble opinion, it is the one that really,
Speaker 1: you know, set it on right because I remember I
Speaker 1: rap for Puff, I rap for Hove, you know, um,
Speaker 1: Mark Pitts, Don Pool My, you know, Manny, they were
Speaker 1: part of the team, you know, and and you know,
Speaker 1: I think I might even wrapped for you know, but
Speaker 1: once I wrapped for Chris Lighty and he went crazy
Speaker 1: and they was ready to cut the check. And you know,
Speaker 1: because contracts, that's when everybody he was on because there
Speaker 1: was a batting war for you. Yes, but I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you. He I remember clearly we were at a point,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I rap for Puff, you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, rap for Mark Pitts, wrap for for hose,
Speaker 1: and you know we were we were coming along. But
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't get the I didn't get the
Speaker 1: I didn't get the deal, and you know, so I
Speaker 1: was I might have been a little frustrated, like you know,
Speaker 1: what's going on right? All right? And by God's grace,
Speaker 1: this was like November November and the November maybe beginning
Speaker 1: of December, I went to rap for Chris and everything changed.
Speaker 1: Like weeks later. I was in Los Angeles because Chris.
Speaker 1: I think they were ready, like New York was ready.
Speaker 1: And I think when they when they're getting ready to
Speaker 1: do deals, they called each other and talk crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like yeah, I think you think you're doing it right? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you know? I just take your head exactly? And
Speaker 1: then Puff is like, hold up, that's the kid that
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is outside of looking at
Speaker 1: one of the llist buzzes I've ever seen, not in
Speaker 1: just New York City, And at this time, New York
Speaker 1: City ran the world anyway, So if it was just
Speaker 1: New York, didn't, by god be it. But this was
Speaker 1: throughout the whole industry. They was like this, dude, shine.
Speaker 1: And then I'm hearing Loud Records had a deal for you.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing that Jam had That was after Chris. Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, God, let's sport of I'm trying to ask
Speaker 1: you this. There was, there was, there was already does
Speaker 1: everybody want to sign you again? You know? So there
Speaker 1: was the buzz, but you know there was the buzz
Speaker 1: that started with Mark Pitts excuse me, don Pool. You
Speaker 1: know those are those are influences, you know, trend setters,
Speaker 1: um you know, and this this conversations happening, you know,
Speaker 1: ran down on Hove. You know, I spit for Puff,
Speaker 1: I spit for d do you know I can't forget
Speaker 1: him called spit for clauk Kent. So there's there's a
Speaker 1: conversation happening, right But you know everybody's doing what they're doing.
Speaker 1: And so it's like, you know, but your name is
Speaker 1: rings no rush, but but but it's ringing when nobody
Speaker 1: put the deal on the table until I went to
Speaker 1: see Chris. And when I went to see Chris and
Speaker 1: leyall and like I said, I think maybe they picked
Speaker 1: up the phone and was like, oh, yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: got the answer. Yeah, let me actually eat. Did you
Speaker 1: know about how Big is boss? Because that's what ye
Speaker 1: just because he was in Miami, you like, I keep
Speaker 1: you not like I've never to this day, like seeing
Speaker 1: how much like and you was probably just entering the games.
Speaker 1: You probably didn't really understand I was. I couldn't go
Speaker 1: to no meeting and meet with no executive. What what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? You heard, you know, I think and asking
Speaker 1: me about it, and I'm like, what is this guy?
Speaker 1: You know? I remember I always wanted to know how
Speaker 1: you started. I had almost lost my life. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: told you I got shot. That's when I try to
Speaker 1: divorce myself from that way of life in the name
Speaker 1: of my mom. You know, a single mother, you know,
Speaker 1: she's battling depression because you know she's gonna lose her
Speaker 1: only son to the streets. And I think that was
Speaker 1: a blessing, you know, that was that was God's way
Speaker 1: of you know, patting me on the back and tell
Speaker 1: me keep going. And obviously, as you can see now,
Speaker 1: I always had a bigger purpose because right now, you know, um,
Speaker 1: everything that I wanted to do as far as Bob Marley,
Speaker 1: I'm doing that in my own way from beliefs because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm leading the world from Belize. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: the way I treat my people, the way I try
Speaker 1: to uplift my people, the way I advocate for all people,
Speaker 1: for equality, for you know, education, for entrepreneurship, for women's rights,
Speaker 1: for healthcare, for housing, for land. Um. I used to
Speaker 1: rap about the establishment and the powers that be, and
Speaker 1: now I'm the the strongest voice in the House of
Speaker 1: Representatives in Belize. And remember I have a global following,
Speaker 1: so I might not. You know, people always ask me
Speaker 1: how do I come up with my speeches, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: there's no different than how it came up with my raps,
Speaker 1: because my raps were not driven by a desire to
Speaker 1: be famous. My raps was just a conversation. I was
Speaker 1: just having a conversation. And I learned to do that
Speaker 1: from Bob Marley from Ray and Ghosts from Naas from Jay.
Speaker 1: You know, those were the real conversationalist big they were
Speaker 1: having a conversation. They were talking to you, you know,
Speaker 1: Dre and Snoop tupop conversations. You know, Wu Tang conversation.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, right, because when you first
Speaker 1: came out, it was no secret they was comparing you
Speaker 1: the big Now what's that because of your voice tone?
Speaker 1: Or what's that? What they're trying to make you feel?
Speaker 1: The big shoes? No, no, no, I think you know,
Speaker 1: I have a barre toone, but you know it's it's
Speaker 1: been twenty three years and I still have the same bartone.
Speaker 1: And I think whenever a new artist, you know, um arrives,
Speaker 1: people have to you know, it's like people been trying
Speaker 1: to find another Michael Jordan's the NBA forever until you
Speaker 1: got to realize that. You know, Lebron is just the
Speaker 1: first Lebron. That's never gonna be the mic, you know,
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, it's the first step. You know, Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: is the first Kobe as well, Kevin, you know Kobe
Speaker 1: drinking Kobe, great guy. I supposed to wrap supposed to
Speaker 1: write a song for him on one of his albums.
Speaker 1: So did that bother you that that comparison. No, because
Speaker 1: I knew who I was. I knew I was a
Speaker 1: guy from the street. You know, I gotta say, I
Speaker 1: gotta give recognition to my guy, noigil, No, you know
Speaker 1: not of course, of course yea um. And he used
Speaker 1: to always come in the student like listen, forget what
Speaker 1: they're talking about. You know who you are, you from Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: putting that work. Just have your conversation. They're gonna see that,
Speaker 1: you know, Shina shine, you know, just talk that talk,
Speaker 1: you know. And and of course you know, it takes
Speaker 1: a while as a new artist to fill yourself around
Speaker 1: the studio and you know, to to find your footing.
Speaker 1: But you know, the comparisons drove me. That's what drove
Speaker 1: me to to to be great, to have my own
Speaker 1: greatness because because I didn't want to be Mike, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be Big. I wanted to be Shane.
Speaker 1: Because the funny thing is we had Mike Geronimo sit
Speaker 1: here right, and my Geronimo his whole career was compared
Speaker 1: to Naas so in his I don't remember that, yeah,
Speaker 1: came out, but I'm glad you you brought NUS. I
Speaker 1: love nas. That's my guy. He's a great guy, great
Speaker 1: inspiration always you know when I was when I was incarcerated,
Speaker 1: always reached out to me. You know if I ever
Speaker 1: needed anything. Now that I've ever asked anybody for anything,
Speaker 1: but you know, he was always there post incarceration, always
Speaker 1: extended the hand to me. Great guy. Um they compared
Speaker 1: now it's the rock can. Yeah. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is this, you know what I'm just saying that that's
Speaker 1: but He's the point I'm trying to make was Mike
Speaker 1: Geronimo has said to us. He said he didn't like
Speaker 1: like it made him. That's not like you see how
Speaker 1: you just said you embraced it. No, No, what I
Speaker 1: didn't say. I embraced that. I said it drove me.
Speaker 1: It drove me. It's not a matter if I didn't
Speaker 1: like it. It's just a matter of you know, I
Speaker 1: gotta be great, and you know, sooner or later people
Speaker 1: gonna appreciate my greatness and it's up to me to
Speaker 1: make great music. That's a million trillion percent shine And
Speaker 1: if you listen to the Shot album, every flow is mine,
Speaker 1: Every flow is different. There's no big flow, there's no
Speaker 1: pop flow, there's nobody flow. If you go back and
Speaker 1: study my first album, and on every song, I have
Speaker 1: a different flow. I switched flows every four balls, right.
Speaker 1: But that was a part of the drive, you know,
Speaker 1: to be a master you know, words Smith, a master musician.
Speaker 1: And you know, I definitely gotta thank Puff for that
Speaker 1: because that's what he was about making great music. And
Speaker 1: so it was great to have somebody like him to
Speaker 1: be like, man, that's trash. We put that out, you know,
Speaker 1: that's how it would It wouldn't be. He wouldn't off
Speaker 1: and I don't even want to hear that, you know,
Speaker 1: like like records would leave that I was and he'd
Speaker 1: be like, what are you doing? This is not it?
Speaker 1: This is not you know, greatest rapper. They think they
Speaker 1: want you to be the greatest rapper. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: but when I when I did get the record, you know,
Speaker 1: I never forget the record. You know, he gave me
Speaker 1: the beat two bad Boys, Bad Boys, because you know,
Speaker 1: we we we we skipped the whole a whole um,
Speaker 1: a whole journey of so when I got signed, I
Speaker 1: think the comparisons came more from negative energy in the
Speaker 1: sense of I got there and I forgot why I
Speaker 1: was there. Remember, I started by saying that Bob Marley
Speaker 1: was my greatest expir and rain, Ghosts and nas. You know,
Speaker 1: just that critical thinking, you know that, you know, analysis
Speaker 1: of our circumstances and how we can forge our way
Speaker 1: out of it. He's saying, when you got back to
Speaker 1: bad but when I but when I signed and I
Speaker 1: got you know those ms, it was about the six
Speaker 1: hundred and you you lost this. It was about the
Speaker 1: four Excuse me, it was about the four point six
Speaker 1: making sure it's not a four point because you know
Speaker 1: it's a big difference. It was you know, it was
Speaker 1: about it was about it was but you know, Jay
Speaker 1: was a hustler, That's what That's what he did. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not Jay, you know, I'm I'm I'm Bob. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm Ghosts. You know, like I'm here, you know,
Speaker 1: to lift my people up. But but but but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm from Brooklyn. I'm a young kid. I never had nothing.
Speaker 1: You know, Mom's four people's houses immigrant So when I
Speaker 1: got it, you gotta go up, you know. Um. And
Speaker 1: so I got distracted because it's nothing wrong with having
Speaker 1: it it's all about balance, you know. Um, but what
Speaker 1: are you here for? And and I was there to
Speaker 1: make great music. I was not there to just drive
Speaker 1: around in the six Yah. I let that make you
Speaker 1: and that's what happened. So he gives you this beat, right,
Speaker 1: So but hold on that that that year is important
Speaker 1: because I think I think that's that's where the negative
Speaker 1: energy came from. Because I wasn't spending the time focusing
Speaker 1: on my craft and honing my craft and developing my
Speaker 1: skill set and becoming what I was destined to become.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, chasing skirts, chasing those arm be
Speaker 1: deva superstars and and you know, for lack of a
Speaker 1: better word, it's definitely a lack of a better word,
Speaker 1: look ahead games. The second one, sos J said, that's
Speaker 1: just the best hold on shot because I'm gonna chine
Speaker 1: for champagne, And joining was the champagne? What color from hell?
Speaker 1: We didn't even get to the We gonna do that
Speaker 1: for shots, don't do that for shots. This faces I get,
Speaker 1: I get like glimpses of the greatness that you do.
Speaker 1: But I'm so busy right now. We got your back,
Speaker 1: we got I don't even know the so what you
Speaker 1: with you one, this is black own champagne. But when
Speaker 1: you think, I said, Um, I'm gonna go with the
Speaker 1: goal because you know you gotta go. You guys go
Speaker 1: to go. Let's go with can we get a cup? Okay?
Speaker 1: Because you know the black and gold is important because
Speaker 1: you know, my my grandmother was, um, what's what you
Speaker 1: call a Gary Okay, that's an African set of people
Speaker 1: that have been persecuted for hundreds of years. Um. And
Speaker 1: they went from St. Vincent. They fought against the French,
Speaker 1: they fought against the English or the black and gold
Speaker 1: the exile. And but this is the color of their
Speaker 1: flat black and gold and and and this month is
Speaker 1: their month. And believes we celebrate Garrett from the settlement day.
Speaker 1: And my grandmother was from Honduras. She was born in Honduras,
Speaker 1: but because of racism, she hid the fact that she
Speaker 1: was a Garret Funa until she until she was about
Speaker 1: to die. Um. Yeah, So it's very important colors to me.
Speaker 1: Black definitely also black kings to us. I just Puerto
Speaker 1: Rican man. You know when I when I when I
Speaker 1: when I when I was, when I spent my time,
Speaker 1: you know, traveling through those correctional facilities. I received love
Speaker 1: from from everyone. Yeah, that's that's one from from your bloods,
Speaker 1: from Christ. That's one thing. Everybody loved me. Your journey
Speaker 1: um to the other side and we'll get there. But
Speaker 1: I remember a lot of people who was in there
Speaker 1: with you and just will always tell me how honorable
Speaker 1: dude you are and a man of your words. And
Speaker 1: it's like I knew that from you from the streets.
Speaker 1: But you have a story that, um, you could be
Speaker 1: bitter man like, come on, let me find like you know,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, like we said earlier,
Speaker 1: your child is actually kind of defending your boss. It
Speaker 1: was absolutely defending. So in any other world, not just
Speaker 1: my boss, my brother, your brother. So in any other
Speaker 1: world when you do that, you defend your brother who
Speaker 1: is your boss, you actually get rewarded for that. There's
Speaker 1: no downfall to that when it's a real world. But
Speaker 1: this is the industry. This you had to quickly learn
Speaker 1: that because you, like you really had to go from
Speaker 1: from zero r real quick. You know, you know what
Speaker 1: happened with with with didn he with brother love. I
Speaker 1: don't really blame that on him now as much as
Speaker 1: I did then because I did go through a stage
Speaker 1: of bitterness human. Um. But in retrospect, you know, I
Speaker 1: blame it more on the lawyers that we're advising him
Speaker 1: to separate the case than him, because his lawyers were there,
Speaker 1: excuse me to secure a not guilty verdict by any means.
Speaker 1: He's a corporation, hundred million dollar corporation, and you know
Speaker 1: they look at me as the enemy. Now you know,
Speaker 1: this is this, this is how many years ago? This
Speaker 1: is twenty some years So Puff is still young relative,
Speaker 1: so he's he's he's much younger than and you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of pressure. You know, he's about to
Speaker 1: lose everything. I'm about to lose everything. I'm from that though, right,
Speaker 1: you know, did he is a musician, you know, he's
Speaker 1: a great musician, great executive, you know, great entertainer. But
Speaker 1: he wasn't from that, so his response shouldn't be expected
Speaker 1: to be my response. And then when your lawyers and
Speaker 1: maybe other people are misleading you and misguiding you, Um,
Speaker 1: I think that's how everything you know fell apart. And
Speaker 1: he said that to me, he said, you know, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry, man, you know I should have
Speaker 1: never listened to those lawyers. And you know, I forgave him, um,
Speaker 1: but you know it was traumatic, so I would forgive
Speaker 1: him and then you know, you might hear me a
Speaker 1: few months later, you know, going in on him. Um.
Speaker 1: But again that was that was that was that was
Speaker 1: that was that was that was. That was over a
Speaker 1: decade ago, um. And I was in a different space then,
Speaker 1: and you know today, you know I'm all about you know,
Speaker 1: how I'm gonna impact the world, building relationships and forgiveness
Speaker 1: as a part of that. I can't carry twenty three
Speaker 1: years ago with me in a negative way. I carried
Speaker 1: twenty three years ago with me all the good from
Speaker 1: twenty three years bad. I take the wisdom out of it,
Speaker 1: I take the lessons out of it, and I use
Speaker 1: it for the next twenty three years. How I'm gonna
Speaker 1: master this chess board. That's hard, that's all. You know
Speaker 1: what I always say. I always say, forgiveness is for you,
Speaker 1: like forgiveness is not for them. Like whether I forget
Speaker 1: them or not, forgiveness makes me a better person. That's
Speaker 1: that's for me. So it's like with you know what Diddy,
Speaker 1: when I when did? He has supported me, He has
Speaker 1: been one of my biggest supporters. Him Fat joke. It
Speaker 1: was are my two guys. Like I said, Nas always
Speaker 1: reaches out when to see you in jail, see me
Speaker 1: in jail. I don't know. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: came to Belieze. I can't forget Buster rhymes, Buster rhymes
Speaker 1: my brother. You know, I was just with him, him
Speaker 1: and Khalid Kalid is my guy to another supporter for
Speaker 1: over a decade, you know. But Buster came to Beliefe
Speaker 1: when I got out, Um, you know, embraced me to
Speaker 1: sign you to though, right, I think I think that
Speaker 1: was he was just a brother, you know, gave me
Speaker 1: an automa when I when I you know, when he
Speaker 1: came to Belieze and just been my brother through and
Speaker 1: through uh and and Joe my brother. But did he
Speaker 1: in in in the most recent years after we reconcile,
Speaker 1: you know, once I told him what I was doing,
Speaker 1: and Beliefs became one of my biggest supporters, you know,
Speaker 1: um brothers telling people through his platforms what I was doing,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, financing what I was doing, um
Speaker 1: and just giving me that moral support and that acknowledgement.
Speaker 1: And then recently they had tried to after I got
Speaker 1: elected elected past legislation to disqualify, disqualify me from the
Speaker 1: House of Representatives, to say that anybody that got convicted
Speaker 1: of a crime can't be in the House of Representatives
Speaker 1: in another country. And and you know did he lost
Speaker 1: it when he heard that, and he got the revote people,
Speaker 1: he got the publicist, he got everybody. He started talking
Speaker 1: to his legislative friends and was like, you know, we
Speaker 1: can't let this happen. You know, this young man changed
Speaker 1: his life. He's doing great things for his people, and
Speaker 1: you know, he's Black excellence, and I can't let this
Speaker 1: happen to my brother. And you know, so he was
Speaker 1: very instrumental. And you know when I came here and
Speaker 1: meeting with the legislators in Georgia, you know, recognition highest
Speaker 1: regards to uh Rep. Erica Thomas and entire at Georgia
Speaker 1: Entertainment Caucus. And you know Corey Jacobs as well. You know,
Speaker 1: so so puff, you know, to me, totally redeem himself.
Speaker 1: And it's my brother and I love him, and so
Speaker 1: I don't need to talk to him every day. I
Speaker 1: don't need a million dollars from him. You know, the
Speaker 1: love and the support in the time of critical need
Speaker 1: is worth more than a trillion dollars. And that's important
Speaker 1: because when you expect money from people, when you expect
Speaker 1: material things from people, you will always be disappointed. What's
Speaker 1: it called and entitled it? I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: entitenment in my case, because you know, after ten years,
Speaker 1: you know, uh that that's debatable. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I prefer to say expectations. Don't expect anything from anyone,
Speaker 1: and appreciate everything that you know God sends your way,
Speaker 1: and take it for what it is. You know, but
Speaker 1: just hold yourself accountable, navigate your path and your journey,
Speaker 1: and life would be much less complicated. So when there
Speaker 1: are no expectations, whatever someone does contributes, it's just just
Speaker 1: enhances extra. But you know, I got what I got
Speaker 1: going going, But that's still my brother. So my love
Speaker 1: doesn't have a price tag on it. So I don't
Speaker 1: love you because you know you sent them may back
Speaker 1: to police for me. I don't love you because you
Speaker 1: know you gave me a million dollars for my campaign.
Speaker 1: I love you because you're my brother, and if we
Speaker 1: talk every day, if we don't, you're my brother and
Speaker 1: I love him. That's why. So um, let's get into
Speaker 1: it that that first record, the barings and leading, and
Speaker 1: we need more. We need more black love, more Brown love.
Speaker 1: A lot of murders going on. I know, New York
Speaker 1: City is ridiculous. When I saw Bobby murder at at
Speaker 1: Jay's event, at Holds event at the fort forty, you know,
Speaker 1: I hugged him, you know, Meek Mill, that's my little
Speaker 1: brother too. He's another little brother that has been their
Speaker 1: champion in the Shine Legacy for years, you know. But
Speaker 1: I held you know, Bobby, and I told him, I said, man, listen,
Speaker 1: you have to learn from me. You know. We were
Speaker 1: going back and forth. I think he did six I
Speaker 1: did tend So I said, listen, I'm the champion, you know,
Speaker 1: right and and but I don't want you to have
Speaker 1: the belt. I don't want you to go through what
Speaker 1: I went through. I want you to be a messenger.
Speaker 1: I want you to lift these kids up. I want
Speaker 1: you to save these kids lives. I don't want anybody
Speaker 1: else in Brooklyn or anywhere else in New York or
Speaker 1: Los Angeles or anywhere around the world or United States
Speaker 1: to go through what we went through. We gotta stop
Speaker 1: the psycho. So so Black Loves and pol We gotta
Speaker 1: stop killing each other. They can't just be when you
Speaker 1: know they're kneeling on George Floyd's net, you know, we
Speaker 1: get up in arms. But then when we're blowing each
Speaker 1: other's brains out, nobody says anything. You know, So So
Speaker 1: Black Love is in portant in brown love, and you
Speaker 1: know in the city love. So so Pop brings you
Speaker 1: this record, he brings you to beat so So ninety
Speaker 1: eight was spent being reckless. That's how I got the
Speaker 1: name Alpoka, you know, parking on the sidebak, you know,
Speaker 1: getting out the cards, just leaving running right, um you r.
Speaker 1: I gotta yeah, I gotta. I gotta definitely acknowledge Mike.
Speaker 1: You know, he's one of the first you know, uh
Speaker 1: icons that that I've ever met and hung out with.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta acknowledge you know Jackie Road Auntie Jackie, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's my aunt. Um So, I spent the whole
Speaker 1: ninety eight, you know, chasing all these on be superstars
Speaker 1: who sold millions and millions of records and rating female
Speaker 1: super the stars who sold millions of records. But I
Speaker 1: didn't sell any records and I wasn't making any hip
Speaker 1: records and I never forget. You know, at the M
Speaker 1: I had an argument um with this on Be Diva,
Speaker 1: you know who sold millions of millions and millions of records.
Speaker 1: You know, we we were you know, we had a thing,
Speaker 1: you know, um situation entanglement. You know who got to
Speaker 1: remember the house of representing this. But listen, anybody listen,
Speaker 1: so so listen, so so so I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I was seeing another rap female superstar, and so they
Speaker 1: got into an argument, and so to be Superstar you know,
Speaker 1: called me and cursed me out. And she was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you ain't nothing. You know, you
Speaker 1: think you something, but you nothing. You ain't sell you
Speaker 1: ain't nah, she wasn't even born. Okay, I'm fishing. Okay,
Speaker 1: I bugged. Don't get my life to that. She's probably yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah that's my home girl. Okay, that's my home girl.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Choo, Yeah yeah I got that record. Notes said anyway,
Speaker 1: this um this this on B Diva Superstar told me listen, basically,
Speaker 1: you're a bum. You yeah, you ain't selling no records.
Speaker 1: She talking that talk. She don't care about the six hundred,
Speaker 1: She don't care about the platinum rolling and the goalsh.
Speaker 1: She don't care about the publishing because she's sold like
Speaker 1: you know, ten million records, number one singles, number one
Speaker 1: album for hundred weeks on on on pop charts. Um
Speaker 1: so she's like, you're a bump. You ain't sell one record.
Speaker 1: So when you sell a record, then you called me
Speaker 1: back since you want to stunt on me and had
Speaker 1: me looking crazy out here with these motive right yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no no, but again I was driven by that. But
Speaker 1: that's about Marry are No. I was. I was thinking
Speaker 1: that we gotta we gotta get in the middle now
Speaker 1: that I mean, no, no, no, no, Mary's no. Mary
Speaker 1: montev ain't selling type of but Mary. Mary's great. But
Speaker 1: Mary's like you know, that's like big system, you know,
Speaker 1: but like she was before my time. Um but um
Speaker 1: so yeah. So anyway, that was like that was like
Speaker 1: hitting me in the head with a law knocked the
Speaker 1: wind out of me and and it put me back
Speaker 1: in focus because I was like, she's right, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to just be driving around in nice
Speaker 1: cars and you know, have all the Iceberg sweats and
Speaker 1: you know, have all the drip. I want to make
Speaker 1: hit records. I want to be on top of the
Speaker 1: charts for a hundred weeks like her, but not just
Speaker 1: make hit records. Remember, I came here to impact the world.
Speaker 1: So you know, I had a plan where I was gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, become a little bit more conscious in my music,
Speaker 1: you know, send different messages to lift my people. See
Speaker 1: if I could do a hybrid of that, you know,
Speaker 1: nas Co Strayed by Molly type thing. You know, nas
Speaker 1: ended up doing an album with David Martin. So I was,
Speaker 1: I was on the path and it was like, so
Speaker 1: what am I doing? So that Knoctor went out of
Speaker 1: me and got me back on my path. Um, both
Speaker 1: from an ego perspective and from spiritual perspective, because I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, she's talking crazy. I got to
Speaker 1: show her that, you know, I could put out um.
Speaker 1: And so that's when I realized that the secret to
Speaker 1: success was did it. But the whole ninety eight I
Speaker 1: was dating his girlfriends. I can't tell you who, but
Speaker 1: that's how crazy I was. It sounds like a recipe
Speaker 1: for disasters for your career. That is what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to sell you. He was out there the place so um.
Speaker 1: So that's how off track I was that I was
Speaker 1: a worker, you know, trying to take the CEOs, you know, property,
Speaker 1: and well I shouldn't refer to women's property, but you
Speaker 1: know the CEOs, you know entanglements because I was totally distracted,
Speaker 1: totally you know, young, dumb and full of come and
Speaker 1: so I had to get back on track. So he
Speaker 1: wasn't even messing with messing with me, okay, because he
Speaker 1: knew what you would. He can't be mad at that.
Speaker 1: He was just like, man, you right. That's when I
Speaker 1: did the UM. I don't know if you listen to
Speaker 1: Mass album where I did the song start from Scratch,
Speaker 1: And initially that was if I can start from scratch
Speaker 1: out the sign that f jam, hustle russell. A couple
Speaker 1: of a million events changed it to you know, uh,
Speaker 1: now what am I saying Puff's the best man? Because
Speaker 1: me and Puff we were hugged up for that. You know,
Speaker 1: we got into the little rest of the match over that.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no. Um. So that's where we
Speaker 1: were at. So ninety nine came about and I was like, man, listen,
Speaker 1: Puff is the holy Grail. I'm not here to look cute.
Speaker 1: I'm here to sell records. I'm here to change the world.
Speaker 1: And you know that's when DMX was destroying things. You
Speaker 1: were destroying things. J Hard knocked life destroying things, and
Speaker 1: you know bad Boy was you know, it was in
Speaker 1: our turn. You know, we was in the bad um
Speaker 1: and so I knew Puff was still the Holy Grail
Speaker 1: because that's our life, is life in cycles. So that
Speaker 1: entire ninety nine, you know, I parked the six hundred,
Speaker 1: parked the Rover, and I just went everywhere. Puff went.
Speaker 1: Hopped in the back of the Silver Navigator, and I
Speaker 1: was puff Shadow wherever he went on went, whatever he did,
Speaker 1: I did all he brings you this beat, all in
Speaker 1: order to get the Holy Grail. So we're in Hampton's August.
Speaker 1: August is a special month for me. But before this,
Speaker 1: we hit the I wouldn't say it was a home run,
Speaker 1: but it was a base hit and drove two people home.
Speaker 1: So we scored some runs. We're sitting at home, sitting
Speaker 1: at home, remix, and you gotta remember was that it
Speaker 1: was that was total total. You gotta remember, the pressure
Speaker 1: is on everybody's like, who's this guy? He's not all that.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have got a couple of million dollars and
Speaker 1: it's not a video for this, No, no, no. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is the record hit. You know what
Speaker 1: I need to do. Let it be understood. Bad boy
Speaker 1: on this Brooklyn the a t They pumped this, that
Speaker 1: was it right, Everybody was like okay. And Puff is
Speaker 1: the ultimate hater, which is great. He's an ultimate hayter
Speaker 1: because he's hating for the benefit of the good. So
Speaker 1: like he's like no, no, no, no. So when he
Speaker 1: says yes when sitting at home makes it out, it's
Speaker 1: because he thought it was great and and he's never wrong.
Speaker 1: Um So in August, we're in the Hamptons, he gives
Speaker 1: me the beat boom boom easy lp bo boom boo
Speaker 1: boom boo boom bo boom boom boom boom, and again,
Speaker 1: the musical genius that he is, he says, this is it.
Speaker 1: Right here, I'm telling you, this is it. If you
Speaker 1: could do to this what you did to send that
Speaker 1: home and take it up a notch, you're gone right
Speaker 1: because you know he used to tell him me, listen,
Speaker 1: you look better than ll You could wrap like Big
Speaker 1: and Nas and Jay you you know you you in
Speaker 1: the streets. You're crazy like Tupac you got it all.
Speaker 1: You're the total package. If you put all that together
Speaker 1: and you put that on this Bad Boys, it wasn't
Speaker 1: called Bad Boys that put put that on this record.
Speaker 1: You're gone. And then who's the guy that goes he's
Speaker 1: asking you, he's asking me that, And you knew exactly
Speaker 1: that one because that's the less that's an icon in
Speaker 1: my community. Right. So he saw again I give credit
Speaker 1: with credit is due. He quarterback that entire play. All
Speaker 1: I had to do was run, make it right and
Speaker 1: and died for the ball um. And that's how Bad
Speaker 1: Boys came about. You know, I went in, I knocked
Speaker 1: it out and the second verse was for Pup. I
Speaker 1: heard you wrote that fair that was for him. Things
Speaker 1: draggon on the floor, you know. But when Club New
Speaker 1: York happened, you know that adjusted the plan. But August
Speaker 1: nineteen is when I wrote Bad Boys. Yeah at um
Speaker 1: hit Yeah. Well in June, you know, I gotta recognize
Speaker 1: phonk Master Flex as well. You know a job in
Speaker 1: Bombay Condors too. They was on it. But Flex, you
Speaker 1: know another guy that doesn't you know, he's not really
Speaker 1: on you unless he's on you. You know, you see
Speaker 1: him arguing with a lot of people some icons, you know.
Speaker 1: So he's not one to really just you know, uh,
Speaker 1: play music just to play music. He gotta love he
Speaker 1: gotta love it. Yeah, he gotta love it and um
Speaker 1: and he loved that record. And that record went. That
Speaker 1: was it, Like there was no there was no you know,
Speaker 1: is it gonna go? And went Flex played it like
Speaker 1: a hundred times and that was it. What made you
Speaker 1: use him again was the other record that was half year.
Speaker 1: You know, when they sent the record to Barrington, they
Speaker 1: because Usha was supposed to be on Bonnie and Shine,
Speaker 1: but you got on. She was supposed to be on
Speaker 1: Bonnie and Shane and that's where Baronton levies On was
Speaker 1: supposed to be on Bonnie and Shoe already wrote the
Speaker 1: chorus and everything. Wow, but they put one over on me.
Speaker 1: But when it came back it was great. You know,
Speaker 1: who could I can't argue with my childhood hero, you know,
Speaker 1: but he was the confessors a fire to that happened,
Speaker 1: you know. That was Mark Fitz and Jamaine Duprix two
Speaker 1: thousand and I want to grant me for that. It
Speaker 1: makes a noise for that. Apsn't have that supples that
Speaker 1: have that in your intro to Gray that went on, Yes,
Speaker 1: holy holy boy a right, so I was My next
Speaker 1: question was Bonny and Shot. But I feel like we
Speaker 1: already established that, right, Alright, cool, don't forget. I can't
Speaker 1: believe I was nominated for Brandy for that too. Well,
Speaker 1: Carl Thomas Thomas, Okay, that's a big record. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna come back to that. But look the song more
Speaker 1: or Less. That's Foxy Brown on there, right, that's produced
Speaker 1: by Kanye West, who was just on your show. Check
Speaker 1: know that did not know that young Kanye West. I
Speaker 1: called John Man super early I think about it, sounds
Speaker 1: like a West I was there vision And wait a minute,
Speaker 1: because this is why this is two thousand No, this
Speaker 1: is more or less came out well, you know what,
Speaker 1: More or Less came out of two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: But I recorded those records in two thousand one. I
Speaker 1: was in with Trout. I recorded The Godfather Buried the
Speaker 1: live album, all of it while I was on Because
Speaker 1: this is one because this is when I this is
Speaker 1: when I reached the holy grail. Like after my first album,
Speaker 1: I've breached to a level where I didn't write raps anymore.
Speaker 1: So literally, I was going from court to the studio
Speaker 1: and I would just listen to the beat and I
Speaker 1: just go in the studio and just talk about my life.
Speaker 1: But why the record you had that you did on
Speaker 1: the phone for the record for the record, and you know,
Speaker 1: I want to take this opportunity to um. You know,
Speaker 1: we should toast the fifty cents. You know, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate all of his success. Yeah, I appreciate all the
Speaker 1: success that he's having as as a as an African American.
Speaker 1: You know, the longevity that he's having, the transition that
Speaker 1: he's made, you know, from you know, a Grammy Award
Speaker 1: winning you know, multi platinum selling grapher, you know, to
Speaker 1: a film producer. You know, he's an entertainment mogul um.
Speaker 1: You know, he's into the spirits as well. Just everything
Speaker 1: that he's doing. You know, I celebrate his success. And
Speaker 1: you know, he tried to sign me when I was
Speaker 1: away that record about you say that he tried to
Speaker 1: sign me, and you know, I was just in a
Speaker 1: different place. I was in a place you know, I
Speaker 1: was you know, I was better. I was upset. You know,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of a lot of demons that
Speaker 1: I was fighting, and you know, I was just in
Speaker 1: a different space. I'm not in that space anymore. I'm
Speaker 1: in the space of healing and I'm in the space
Speaker 1: of celebrating people. You know, I'm not getting into other
Speaker 1: people's issues because that wasn't my issue. What was that
Speaker 1: because he was friends were Yeah, it was my brother,
Speaker 1: you know, I came to see you or something like that. No,
Speaker 1: he's my brother. IRV was a great guy. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is because Earth came to see you opposed.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just because Earth came to see me. It's
Speaker 1: just you know, you know, certain things meant meant something
Speaker 1: to me, and I don't want to go down that
Speaker 1: route because again, that's not my issue, and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't have the details and it's just not my
Speaker 1: my thing. I was just going with my brother and
Speaker 1: is still my brother. But it's time to grow up.
Speaker 1: It's time involved. And I want to see all my
Speaker 1: brothers together getting money, you know, being productive and just
Speaker 1: having great lives. And we should live until we're seventy
Speaker 1: and eighty like the rock and roll guys, and you know,
Speaker 1: just have success. So so take me some noise for that.
Speaker 1: But that but that I need to know, but that
Speaker 1: he's not ready to move me into the ruck. But
Speaker 1: that was jail. Yeah, it was because alright, because because
Speaker 1: I was thinking it could have been recorded. He was
Speaker 1: in jail, all recorded over the phone prior to you
Speaker 1: being in jail. But that's the I think that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons I I failed when I came out,
Speaker 1: when I was released from incarceration. It's because it was
Speaker 1: too much negative energy. You know. I was arguing with Puff,
Speaker 1: I was arguing with fifty. I was arguing with Ross.
Speaker 1: You know Chears, the Rick Ross as well. He's doing
Speaker 1: great things, entrepreneur mogul. He's buying a house just so
Speaker 1: you could drive by. I hope that he rented out
Speaker 1: for airbnb so we could generate some revenues. Dominate that
Speaker 1: to please. But um, you know, Chears, the all you know,
Speaker 1: the rat mogul's you know that are enjoying success. That's
Speaker 1: what I want. You know. Then I was selfish. I
Speaker 1: was thinking about me, and I was repeating something that
Speaker 1: was so destructive for hip hop. I think that's why
Speaker 1: God took my voice, you know, because when I came out,
Speaker 1: I lost my voice. I didn't have my baritone and
Speaker 1: and it was a disaster. And cald is my God,
Speaker 1: love him so much. He wasn't flying private planes. Then
Speaker 1: he was ready to take a boat to believe for
Speaker 1: me to do that record. But I wasn't ready and
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready because again I lost focused. Like I
Speaker 1: was in I was in ectional facilities, you know, going
Speaker 1: through a journey, not to come out and be tupap.
Speaker 1: I don't write rhymes, I just create, Just give me
Speaker 1: the beat. So I had, I had albums in my head.
Speaker 1: But the point I'm making is, you know, Um, I
Speaker 1: came out with the wrong energy, that destructive energy, and
Speaker 1: that had been very devastating for hip hop. We lost
Speaker 1: two of our icons and even more people because of
Speaker 1: that destructive energy. So for me to be a leader again,
Speaker 1: to to want to be about Molly and after ten
Speaker 1: years of going through all that, even if it's just entertainment,
Speaker 1: even if it's just me speaking my truth and giving
Speaker 1: my opinions on you know the rules are wrapping the
Speaker 1: rules of the street. That's not the energy that we
Speaker 1: ever need again because I'm too rare, and when you're
Speaker 1: too rare, things end up becoming very destructive and devastated.
Speaker 1: So Um, so yeah, the energy just wasn't right. And
Speaker 1: the energy that I have now, it's the right energy,
Speaker 1: celebrating everyone and you know, wishing everybody the best, and
Speaker 1: everything is about beliefs. So when you came home and
Speaker 1: what did you feel pressure to do that college verse?
Speaker 1: Did you regret it? Like? No, I didn't feel pressure.
Speaker 1: I just I just explained to you. My problem is
Speaker 1: my energy was not right. Yeah, if your energy is negative,
Speaker 1: you're focused on the wrong thing. Why am I thinking
Speaker 1: about brick Ross? Why am I thinking about Ditty? Why
Speaker 1: am I thinking about fifty? I'm supposed to be thinking
Speaker 1: about myself. I'm supposed to be thinking about believes I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to be thinking about how I'm gonna make hits.
Speaker 1: That was just the wrong energy. So it's like again
Speaker 1: instead of the on be diva, God slap me upside
Speaker 1: my head, took my voice away so that I could,
Speaker 1: you know, get focused what was important. But when you
Speaker 1: came home, you didn't go straight to belives right. You
Speaker 1: know what happened is when you know it was like
Speaker 1: in Paris, I was on I was in um my guy,
Speaker 1: Stephen Victor just hit me. Congratulations Stephen Victor. He's Um,
Speaker 1: he's the he's Spotify. I guy. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Stephen Victor, come on, don't do that. Now, he got
Speaker 1: got money in Spotify. Stephen Victor probably got money and
Speaker 1: everything I'm talking about. Stephen Victor pushed the tea. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about he got something. So he got money
Speaker 1: and he had money from you, so much money he
Speaker 1: got wet No, no, but I wanted to. I wanted
Speaker 1: to celebrate, uh, my young brother. He's a he's been
Speaker 1: a friend of mine since, you know, over thirteen years,
Speaker 1: and so I'm so proud of him. He got se
Speaker 1: then we got he's he's on his way over here.
Speaker 1: That's my part. We got the box. We don't know okay,
Speaker 1: and we got it, but we got it. We got
Speaker 1: I gotta also celebrate my other younger brother, uh Steve, oh,
Speaker 1: Stephen Carllers. He just he just became president a Warner Bros.
Speaker 1: That's my other little brother. Okay, my insig, Yes that sound.
Speaker 1: We don't all show us about giving people their flowers
Speaker 1: while they're alive. So many people wouldn't show you love
Speaker 1: after we we we didn't make up that statement, but
Speaker 1: we made it famous in hip hop. So we literally
Speaker 1: want to give your flowers while you here to your face,
Speaker 1: face to face matter man, thanks to you what you
Speaker 1: need in the community. Hip hop You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: standing tall for the streets, standing tall for every day.
Speaker 1: We respect you, we love you, we appreciate you. Shout
Speaker 1: out what the flower? So then I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: give you my yeah because now you know so this
Speaker 1: is uh, this is nineteen eighty one. Uh excuse me,
Speaker 1: belies Rum from one of the institutions of Rum, uh
Speaker 1: called Travelers. This one. Yeah, this is nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 1: This is a Travelers. They actually have a museum Beliefs
Speaker 1: if you're ever visited Beliefs, which I know everybody out
Speaker 1: there watching. We got to go to police. You gotta
Speaker 1: break that over because we're gonna drink. Okay, okay, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: I was trying to save it. Take it home for me.
Speaker 1: I've got for you this work. You think my naturally
Speaker 1: drinking instinct like like, hold on, they can take this home.
Speaker 1: Does he know we're ready to go to police and
Speaker 1: do this interview with we were we were ready to
Speaker 1: know before I didn't you did tell me that we
Speaker 1: got you got your American ship back I don't selling back.
Speaker 1: I said your ship. No, no, no, how did you
Speaker 1: get that back? How did you government? Okay, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: got a next into the house. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can let the Domerican to every same thing. So,
Speaker 1: oh you know why we're so we're so uneducated, so
Speaker 1: that I think it was like this. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a little definitely that silly wouldn't fix expressive ship right there.
Speaker 1: So we watch you out with that bottle. That's that's
Speaker 1: expensive ship right there there you go. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: we got I think you gotta take off. He just
Speaker 1: used to open the package. It's a cocaine forget about
Speaker 1: Dominican friend actually looking expencive. Okay, okay, okay, I don't
Speaker 1: know you do you do right? No problem, no problem. Listen,
Speaker 1: we got and we got the Caribbean the Caribbean rum too. Okay,
Speaker 1: this the um. This is the ten year old. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sign this before I leave. Yeah, please, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put you that right in my ball, right put in
Speaker 1: check this out. This is a game that we played
Speaker 1: on the show, is called quick Time of Slim. Right.
Speaker 1: The quick Time of Slam is very simple. You pick
Speaker 1: one or the other, if you pick both, or if
Speaker 1: you pick neither. Did you take a shot. But let's
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see how you do out. Alright, cool,
Speaker 1: you're ready, got the shots ready? Alright? Cool? Let me
Speaker 1: get them pull it off. You can tell your shot
Speaker 1: in the Caribbean. Let me try. We go in and
Speaker 1: but we're gonna wait. Don't take a shot yet. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying too fast? One night outside. Listen, listen, this
Speaker 1: this is this is all in the belief they couldn't
Speaker 1: pay for this second market. You know you got shot,
Speaker 1: you got hit, shot out bring me so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do one in one okay, yeah, yeah, I'll do I
Speaker 1: did that one, right, I did that one. Just what
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do one shot? One? One shot? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I got eighty one. It's close to my
Speaker 1: birthday was ninety one. Nineteen eighty one is when believes
Speaker 1: got us independence? Oh? Wow? That that recent? Yeah, forty
Speaker 1: years old. Today's independence from from Great Britain. Wow, that's great.
Speaker 1: And speaking speaking with Great Britain. Along with the Deputy
Speaker 1: Prime Minister of the Leaves Cordel hide Um, we are
Speaker 1: taking the United Kingdom to court for reparations, because reparations
Speaker 1: are due. I said that was the first album. Look
Speaker 1: at United Kingdom next you know, well, you know the
Speaker 1: colonialism is a is a curse to humanity, so they
Speaker 1: gotta pay. But let me okay, let me not digress,
Speaker 1: all right, So this is this is it. We picked
Speaker 1: one of the other big both take a shot. I
Speaker 1: think we need a little bit more than le's get
Speaker 1: a little bit more just in case. Yeah, just a
Speaker 1: little bit, just in case, run DMC or the locks.
Speaker 1: I take a shot. Okay, that's fair. Though, that's fair.
Speaker 1: Welly're good, that's very good. We're supposed to drink the
Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, yeah, it's up to you. It's
Speaker 1: pretty much shot however you want. Next time this, I
Speaker 1: don't know who are you gonna go with? You do
Speaker 1: the next one? Next time? Okay, this one, I don't
Speaker 1: know where you go with. I don't know every representatives,
Speaker 1: So I got to do half a shot. Can't be
Speaker 1: walking out this. I don't know who gonna go with
Speaker 1: us or beliee police police. And that was I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna think about what makes him take a shot.
Speaker 1: Now you believe he's actually why later Okay, he's over everything.
Speaker 1: Of course, now you've been on both. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: bad boy, so pop Daddy r us obviously, okay, I
Speaker 1: Mason Jada Kiss j the Kiss, ready to die on
Speaker 1: me against the world, ready to die damn easy, let
Speaker 1: me let me calm down, all right, Cool, he's doing
Speaker 1: too good man, Hold on, cool, you got you need
Speaker 1: to get some more Snoop or Buster. Oh man, it's
Speaker 1: whatever criteria for you. But yeah, that's what I'm said.
Speaker 1: What's the whatever, whateverever you want, whatever is in your mind.
Speaker 1: It's a crazy feel like, let's go with myster you know,
Speaker 1: like you know Snoop is in a different space. It
Speaker 1: sounds like you're about to stay a shot. I gotta
Speaker 1: take a shot, take a shot, my brother. So you know,
Speaker 1: I can't choose anybody. Snoop is like the most famous
Speaker 1: wrapper up in the world. Snoop American Icon. Everybody anybody
Speaker 1: knows stoop yea yeah, yeah, both like your grandmother there,
Speaker 1: you're mixing the shots. Yeah, yeah, this is the name
Speaker 1: of Belize. That's how that's how you gotta do it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Majuana next. I'm not gonna lie or
Speaker 1: rum has that Caribbean. Taste to it like you immediately
Speaker 1: drink rum and then taste the palm tree like you
Speaker 1: just like you just look at like a ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like this is the best rum. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's it's good. Kenjick Lamar J Cole j Cole. All right,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna be able to answer this. This this,
Speaker 1: this is easy. This one. Queen Latifa em c Light.
Speaker 1: You know, I wrote a record. I wrote a record
Speaker 1: for Queen I mean for em c Light on her
Speaker 1: her seven Alm with my things, you know. But you know,
Speaker 1: Queen la teeth is icon. Mc light is an icon.
Speaker 1: You know, paper thin. I gotta take a shot now,
Speaker 1: you're going back to this one. This this one, get
Speaker 1: my chests hot, that's what she looks. Something I love
Speaker 1: and I saved my chest hairs earlier. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know, I need to paste myself. Yeo, yeah bad, yes,
Speaker 1: when you come to believe you all right, so I
Speaker 1: little no problem. I got you all that and that
Speaker 1: didn't help either. Yeah, it's definitely okay, Scarface on ice
Speaker 1: cube shot, I got you. We're doing before you first.
Speaker 1: I like how you like mainly how aw I love
Speaker 1: that I can tell we got the team to stay
Speaker 1: tasting hip hop. Okay, we gotta take it down, Solot,
Speaker 1: thank you for being here. Shot and you definitely want
Speaker 1: you to know that, uh immediately See bump reminds me
Speaker 1: of Part a WEEKO so much so. Yeah, because you know,
Speaker 1: I get get dumb o talk about believes before I
Speaker 1: leave it. Yeah, we got that, We got you belies. Okay,
Speaker 1: Nas or Jay take a shot. That'm gonna do a
Speaker 1: little one. Yeah if yeah, that's all now they get
Speaker 1: the point. Ah Yeah, Nicky or Cardi deal, Niki, loyalty
Speaker 1: or respect both, it's always the right answer. Motherfucker's get
Speaker 1: mad complicated. Yeah, it's both. Sottle, so I don't okay. Ah,
Speaker 1: Foxy Brown a little cat, Foxy Brown, let me get
Speaker 1: that carib Faith of Monica Faith Shop up a super
Speaker 1: cat show. I said that too quick. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with I'm gonna go with shop with you know,
Speaker 1: a super cat. You know he was great, But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with shoping man. Nobody got more hits and
Speaker 1: shot shot up. He's a push your off fat shot. Okay.
Speaker 1: I was a little confused with that one too. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be confused with this. Boold you. Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta finish you put up. You pought the hang
Speaker 1: one in the name of Belice, Belie Belice is weird situation.
Speaker 1: I don't think I do that right. I need more
Speaker 1: of this. They sell it out here, No, I got
Speaker 1: it to you. I'll get a case. That's a good
Speaker 1: case to you. Rock Camp we want to distribute out here,
Speaker 1: and beliefs I'm doing. You made the Beliefs Festival all
Speaker 1: around the United States, and they're gonna be one of
Speaker 1: the mains. Is really good rock Camp or cam Yeah? Sure,
Speaker 1: that was your last shot. It was Man, they're gonna
Speaker 1: Rap City or NTV raps rap City, j Loo Mariah,
Speaker 1: you almost did a bit with j Low though not
Speaker 1: really with your right. This is the last one Boys
Speaker 1: in the Hood or Juice shot shot. Okay, that's cool,
Speaker 1: that's fair, Yeah, right, okay, But she never asked my
Speaker 1: asked my question about more or less? More or less?
Speaker 1: I've always wondered, is that Foxy on the song? But
Speaker 1: you didn't credit her for being on the song? No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't say feature in Foxy Brown. It's that species
Speaker 1: fox brought on gang Land. I think that was an oversighter.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can show you it right now. It's
Speaker 1: calling me right now. Okay, I'm on. UM's not going
Speaker 1: through for songs, but I don't know why that is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, now you all the second rapper to have
Speaker 1: a drop an album. Hello, Princess, listen, I'm on drink
Speaker 1: Champs right now. Okay, I'm filming, but I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: your baby alive with the kitchen, with the food and
Speaker 1: the Barbie camper and everything. Okay, I love you. You
Speaker 1: gotta be pushing more of this positive energy. It's all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called our father hood. Yeah, our father hoods Yes.
Speaker 1: So what damn? What does that just say? Okay, you're
Speaker 1: the second rapper to ever go number one while incarcerated
Speaker 1: in jail. Now, I know that's not something to brag about,
Speaker 1: but think about how many motherfucking rappers ever been to jail.
Speaker 1: It's just certainly an accomplishment to go number one in
Speaker 1: any circumstances, and I'll be able to support the record.
Speaker 1: I mean, going number one, it's going number one, and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate, you know, and that's that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why you know, I'm grateful for this
Speaker 1: opportunity to make amends and you know, to um to
Speaker 1: put just positive energy with people who I may have
Speaker 1: contributed a lot of negative energy towards because I was
Speaker 1: very fortunate. Did you know your marketing campaign, you know
Speaker 1: you would like it was fandom just came out. I
Speaker 1: was a CEO. Yeah, listen to Fanom just came That
Speaker 1: was the CEO for you had a rap Fanom. I
Speaker 1: was the CEO for riving Around. You know how dope
Speaker 1: that it was? That that was all listen The fandom
Speaker 1: just came out was about four. That was Steve Oh
Speaker 1: to Steve Carlos, Steve Carlins. I thought it was Kevin
Speaker 1: Lives No, no, no, remember maybe the stego was working
Speaker 1: for me. He was. That's what I'm saying. You don't
Speaker 1: understand how great hip hop is. Stephen Victor Junior. It's
Speaker 1: now you know the biggest thing in universal music. Uh.
Speaker 1: Stephen Carlos, president of Want of Music and Young SIDEPP
Speaker 1: was working with you too. Yeah. They had best of
Speaker 1: both worlds, best of both offices. Yeah, it was my
Speaker 1: my sons, But I no know, I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: my guys, the Brookly jump Out of the area and
Speaker 1: there like you know, this movement. So yeah, that was yeah,
Speaker 1: that was sad and Steve are running around the town.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah in the family where I'm not. But listen,
Speaker 1: it's a difference. God bless me. Um. You know, well,
Speaker 1: only other people who did that was Rockefeller and this
Speaker 1: is when Rocket Feller was the hottest in the world.
Speaker 1: They used to put the flyers on the on the
Speaker 1: on the e class. Yeah. No, no, no, no, that's
Speaker 1: what you had. You had, you ships had the flyers,
Speaker 1: like I didn't know that. That's a good poe. We're
Speaker 1: not trying to you know, yeah, that's that's a good point.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I didn't realize the difference. You're
Speaker 1: right right, they did have Okay, that wasn't official rat
Speaker 1: that's yeah. You're the first person I've seen a super
Speaker 1: luck to recall because the Buggy opens was nice. You
Speaker 1: had to had the big, big billboard at the Brooklyn Bridge.
Speaker 1: That's before Dumbo. You do what's before k D from
Speaker 1: the camp. Listen, I shot a video when you can't damn, damn,
Speaker 1: how do you Wow? That's how I got to the
Speaker 1: House of Representive But listen, no, no, honestly, you know
Speaker 1: that's you got your powers, and the entire point of
Speaker 1: your powers is to use them for good. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm very, very grateful to be in a position to
Speaker 1: be a global leader. And so you know, hip hop
Speaker 1: is the most dominant forcing the globe. But unfortunately there's
Speaker 1: a lot of celebrations of destruction. And I'm not judging
Speaker 1: my brothers, you know, like like Meet mill that's like,
Speaker 1: that's like my my little bro. Like I love him.
Speaker 1: You know. What I'm saying he's doing is um criminal
Speaker 1: justice reform thing, him and Michael Rubin, And you know,
Speaker 1: I just want to see him be the leader. I
Speaker 1: want to see him be Mandela. I want to see
Speaker 1: him be Malcolm X because we need that. And what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is, you know, all the gang banging, you know,
Speaker 1: all of you know, just genocide, it has to stop.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It has to come a
Speaker 1: point where you know, we we we have so much power.
Speaker 1: We gotta the chairman, my my brother, how came Jeffreys.
Speaker 1: He's the chairman of the um House of Representative Caucus,
Speaker 1: the Democratic Caucus, not the Black Caucus caucus. We have power.
Speaker 1: We have a vice P isn't it Kamala Harris? African
Speaker 1: American women? Uncle Joe, you know that meme of little
Speaker 1: baby putting the chain around his neck, that's real, Uncle Joe.
Speaker 1: You know he might have made some mistakes a hundred
Speaker 1: years ago, but I think, you know, I feel his energy.
Speaker 1: He's getting it done. The point I'm making is we
Speaker 1: have to stop relying on other communities and other people,
Speaker 1: and we have to start holding ourselves accountable. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying so yeah, um Kanye said he called up Carmilla.
Speaker 1: We ain't seen hers since that lection, Harris. Let you
Speaker 1: hear what I'm saying that I mean I discovered. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say I discovered, yea, But I appreciate his genius
Speaker 1: way before. And you know I love you, you know, yea.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget I was in Clinton Denner Moraw. You know,
Speaker 1: people don't understand, you know, spending ten years of your
Speaker 1: life in the correctional facility. That's why I entitled my
Speaker 1: second album Buried Alive. That's my question. My second album
Speaker 1: is Buried Alive because I was buried alive. That's that's
Speaker 1: It's only it's only two things. It's only that you
Speaker 1: called the album is that Still Buried Alive. There's only
Speaker 1: two things that's worse. It's being in the hospital or
Speaker 1: being incarcerated. You know, being incapacitated in the hospital or
Speaker 1: being incarcerated. Um. You know, so being incarcerated was absolutely
Speaker 1: the worst thing. And that's why I called my album,
Speaker 1: Um God, okay, but it's okay, I hear you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I was literally I was dead, right,
Speaker 1: but you're alive. But I'm alive because I fought to
Speaker 1: be alive, right, I thought to not be dead, right.
Speaker 1: I was like Michael Jackson and Thriller, you know, doing
Speaker 1: the whole dance and everything after he rose from the dead.
Speaker 1: So there was there was, there was voment, and I
Speaker 1: would like to address every year you could say no,
Speaker 1: yes that like when you was in jail, like you
Speaker 1: was affiliated with the biggest blogs. I was. I loved everybody.
Speaker 1: I was a leader that I am today. I was
Speaker 1: a leader. I was in there stopping people from killing
Speaker 1: each other, stopping people from flipping violence against each other.
Speaker 1: And you know, I did what I had to do
Speaker 1: to survive. Um, but I was a leader. I took
Speaker 1: care of everybody. I took care of everybody. It didn't
Speaker 1: matter your affiliation, you know, it didn't really matter. You know,
Speaker 1: some people have certain type of charges that I really
Speaker 1: didn't want anything to do with, you know, station you know,
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, I was a leader. You know,
Speaker 1: I love I love people. I'm a humanitarian and that's
Speaker 1: what I was about. You know what, maybe there there
Speaker 1: were certain people that loved me more than other people.
Speaker 1: But I was all about you know, everyone just trying
Speaker 1: to God my brothers just you know, I felt so
Speaker 1: bad that I was there. And while I was there,
Speaker 1: I would have a number one album I would have,
Speaker 1: you know, like jay Z would come to Riker's Allen
Speaker 1: into may Back a right to see you, to come
Speaker 1: and see the Fat Joe would pull up. Fat Joe
Speaker 1: actually did a concert for me for my brothers that
Speaker 1: were incarcerated. So now I was just I was as
Speaker 1: a leader that ever worked against you those type of things. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: The the the authorities loved me because you know, all
Speaker 1: I did was pray, you know. Um. You know, I
Speaker 1: was a devout jue you know, kosha Um. I minded
Speaker 1: my business, you know, and I try to advise everybody.
Speaker 1: I try to guide everybody people. Young kids would come in.
Speaker 1: I had a program call um Yeah, you have to
Speaker 1: print the ship program. So if a young kid would
Speaker 1: come to my house, I would and he didn't have
Speaker 1: his high school diploma, I would send him or take
Speaker 1: I would take him upstairs to a class that I
Speaker 1: taught and made sure he would try to get his
Speaker 1: g D. Wow. You know, so I was always always
Speaker 1: about positivity. That's why, like I said, when I came
Speaker 1: out and I was then with all that negativity, you
Speaker 1: know that there wasn't the right thing to do. So
Speaker 1: you know, so many people go to jail and they
Speaker 1: come back, you know, they come back blood or they
Speaker 1: come back crypt when they come back, Musslim when they
Speaker 1: come back, Christian they come No one comes back Jewish,
Speaker 1: you know, the Israelites the proper name for Jews or
Speaker 1: Israelites and Israelites for people who don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about those guys on forty second streets. That's what
Speaker 1: I was about to say. No, no, listen, listen, if
Speaker 1: you're slack, if you're if you if you are a
Speaker 1: Christian or a Muslim cordon or the King James version
Speaker 1: of the Bible, and you read the Old test that
Speaker 1: they both have the Old Testament, and you read, you
Speaker 1: know it will tell you um about the Israelites. And
Speaker 1: you know the Five Books of Moses is it is
Speaker 1: in both those um scriptures. And you know in the
Speaker 1: Five Books of Moses, which is my name, you change
Speaker 1: it Anti Moses Levi, but my name is Moses barrow Um.
Speaker 1: The Five Books of Moses documents the happenings of the Israelites.
Speaker 1: It's not in the Torah as well. That's the Torah,
Speaker 1: the tourists and the Oak and then the Christian books.
Speaker 1: So the point I'm trying to make is no where
Speaker 1: in the Torah, the Kordan, or the Christian books do
Speaker 1: they mention the word Jews Israelite. You know, Jews just
Speaker 1: a misnomer. It's just you know, just a swedeo name,
Speaker 1: you know, just a um. And if you look at
Speaker 1: the journey of the Israelites, they were Africans, egypt Is
Speaker 1: in Africa, North Africa, Africa, right right, right, right, So
Speaker 1: the people in Africa got broad noses, big lips, and
Speaker 1: you know, much darker than i an. You know, you
Speaker 1: had pharaohs that were the color of your shirt. So
Speaker 1: the point I'm making is you know, um, the Israelites.
Speaker 1: Most of this story was in Africa, So it's not
Speaker 1: like it shouldn't be a coincidence or it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: shocking that, you know, an African, American, African Caribbean is
Speaker 1: drawn to Judaism because that's an African science. Israelism is
Speaker 1: in Africa if you look at if you look at Africa,
Speaker 1: Israel is right, they're attached to Sinai, which is in Africa.
Speaker 1: They're they're, they're they're like connected. They call it the
Speaker 1: Middle East. I'm not gonna get into that politics. But
Speaker 1: if you look at the map, I see what you say.
Speaker 1: It's not far feted, it's not even far fetched. It's
Speaker 1: literally attached. And the entire thing was going from Egypt
Speaker 1: to it. It's the same people. It's still part of Africa.
Speaker 1: So Africa got Ethiopians, Africa got you know, um, the
Speaker 1: Ebos and Nigeria. You know, shout out to my little
Speaker 1: brother on dar Vido. So it's not you know, to me, um,
Speaker 1: people associate being Jewish for being European, which is you know,
Speaker 1: just a myth. It's not really you know, if you
Speaker 1: look at Moses, Moses was married to Ethiopian. Ah It
Speaker 1: says this, and it's post World War two. Israel says
Speaker 1: this in the Bible. But I'm not talking about Israel.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about you know, So being a Jew
Speaker 1: is not synonymous with being in Israeli. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: this is something that's like five Our our calendar is
Speaker 1: like five thousand and eight hundred years old. So the
Speaker 1: point I'm making is being a Jew being in Israelite
Speaker 1: is not a racial thing. You have Jews from Rock Eye,
Speaker 1: you know, you have Jews Morocco. You have Jews from Iran,
Speaker 1: you have Jews from Yemen, you have Jews from um Iran.
Speaker 1: You have Jews from Syria, you have Jews from um Lebanon,
Speaker 1: the place. You have Jews from Russia. But your name
Speaker 1: is mostly places besides Russia. You have Jews, know, you
Speaker 1: have Jews from from Czechoslovakia, Jews from from all over Europe.
Speaker 1: But those Jews that in Europe came from Africa, came
Speaker 1: from Israel. They were persecuted in Jerusalem and in Israel,
Speaker 1: and they fled to to Europe. So the point I'm
Speaker 1: making is I don't like to racialize being a Jew,
Speaker 1: being a Jewish, a racial h being a Jewish of
Speaker 1: belief and that is uh, you know, to believe in
Speaker 1: one god mino theism, and I believe that there's one
Speaker 1: intelligent designer that created the universe. And you know, having
Speaker 1: a connection with that intelligent designer, it's the holy Grail
Speaker 1: kind of like with me and did he when I
Speaker 1: realized that connecting with him would lead me to success.
Speaker 1: And that's why I chose the name Moses mhm. Because
Speaker 1: Moses was not born a Jew. He wasn't circumcised, he
Speaker 1: didn't have a britten melt right, he didn't keep shabat,
Speaker 1: he didn't wrap the feeling, he didn't do any of
Speaker 1: those things. He was raised as an Egyptians. Most is
Speaker 1: the same person as Mahami, right, no, no, no, But
Speaker 1: Moses is like the Moses the guy, and Judaism is
Speaker 1: him and King David. But Moses is the guy. He's
Speaker 1: the guy who got the Torah, you know what I mean? Um,
Speaker 1: But Moses was raised as an Egyptian, as a North
Speaker 1: African in Pharaoh's house. But Moses everything that he didn't
Speaker 1: come yet typical Stephen Victor get that money. Yeah, m
Speaker 1: But Moses was raised as Egyptian. Right, But that's what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you that the foundation of being
Speaker 1: a Jew in an Israelite, it's not a racial thing.
Speaker 1: It's an ideological thing. It's a philosophical thing. Right. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you what that ideological and the philosophical thing is.
Speaker 1: Moses grew up with Faraoh. Moses was gonna be Faral
Speaker 1: And who is farh? Pharaoh is the guy that works
Speaker 1: people to death, the guy that has no morals, no characteristics.
Speaker 1: Can we get around applause? And see we got to
Speaker 1: drink to that that. You know how you know you're
Speaker 1: rich when you wear the same hat every day? That's
Speaker 1: the money, right, that's that's that, that's that. What's the
Speaker 1: guy's name? I mean, Warren Buffett is poor? Now that's that.
Speaker 1: Now that's to that that So I look, yeah, so
Speaker 1: long story short. Moses grew up as an Egyptian and
Speaker 1: Moses one day says, you know what, killing people, working
Speaker 1: people to death? Um, you know, so that I could
Speaker 1: be rich and I could have these pyramids and I
Speaker 1: could have all this wealth. That's scarbage. That's by Suda
Speaker 1: ba right, um, like do we my friends smogan? Right?
Speaker 1: And and that's the foundation of being in this really
Speaker 1: like principles, integrity, right, character. He said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be rich if being rich means
Speaker 1: that we're gonna work these people to death. These people
Speaker 1: are gonna be slaves. Man, that's scarbage. And he went
Speaker 1: into the desert. We're nothing most Moses in order to
Speaker 1: follow his prince, supposing his ideas. And that's what I did.
Speaker 1: I said, listen, you know here, the rollies, nice, the
Speaker 1: Bentley's nice. I had all of that while on trial,
Speaker 1: but none of that was worth me being at Takashi
Speaker 1: six nine and saying, you know, did he did it?
Speaker 1: So my entire life it's based on integrity and character
Speaker 1: and so like in the House of Representatives and believes
Speaker 1: I'm dead to advocate on behalf of people. And that's
Speaker 1: what Moses did. God, according to the Five Books, was
Speaker 1: gonna destroy the Israelites because they were this, they were that,
Speaker 1: they did this, they did that. And Moses said, you
Speaker 1: know what, kill me, but let the Israelites live. And
Speaker 1: that's a true leader. That's a true leader. True leader
Speaker 1: is gonna sacrifice everything for his team. You guys are
Speaker 1: leaders of your team, and I know you guys. Make
Speaker 1: sure that everybody straight before you straight, everybody goes to bed,
Speaker 1: everybody get their check before you get your check. And
Speaker 1: so yeah. So so that's my connection to being a
Speaker 1: so called Jew. I'm not religious, um, because my religion
Speaker 1: is humanity, and my religion is being honest. My religion
Speaker 1: is being generous. My religion is being tolerant, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So so I'm about humanity. I'm not about
Speaker 1: any religion in particular. I still practice the sciences of
Speaker 1: you know, being a Jew, being Israelite. But yeah, how
Speaker 1: was it living in Paris before? What about the next question? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but so every day to just close up to just
Speaker 1: close up that last question. The point is, and an
Speaker 1: African being a Jew should not be surprising. Anyone can
Speaker 1: be a Jew, you know. Being a Jew is not
Speaker 1: restricted to a particular race. Um yea, So Paris. I
Speaker 1: was in Paris before Hoven. You just put that on
Speaker 1: the record. What before Hoven? You you said, Colvin. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm cold. Was in Paris. I'm just taking
Speaker 1: my credit. I'm just taking I'm just taking my credit
Speaker 1: in Paris now before I watched The Throne, Okay, I
Speaker 1: was in Paris Hotel coasties. Now, I was in the
Speaker 1: lama Reee for more than six days. That's Um Stephen,
Speaker 1: Stephen very rich. Okay, he was rising. But now now
Speaker 1: you know, Paris is where many of the Jews in
Speaker 1: Israel who were persecuted, many of the Syrian, Moroccan, Iranian
Speaker 1: Lebanese Jews, they went to Paris about the hash and
Speaker 1: so Patis there's a big there's a big Jewish community
Speaker 1: in Paris, and there's a big African community in Paris.
Speaker 1: And Paris is so rich with culture in arts. Even
Speaker 1: though you know, there's even though, even though even though
Speaker 1: they did Haiti dirty, you know, they made Haiti pay
Speaker 1: all types of hundreds of billions of dollars because of
Speaker 1: Um Pierre Toussaint Am I saying it right? Stephen Pierre
Speaker 1: Toussaint These, the first African leader in the Caribbean, destroyed
Speaker 1: the French and what is now the Republic of Haiti.
Speaker 1: He's from eighteen o four, He's from Haiti. Africans, Africans
Speaker 1: who Haitian Frants. His heart is Africa, careful, He's so happy. Africans,
Speaker 1: Africans who were transported from Africa to build the New
Speaker 1: America's destroyed the French, which was the biggest military at
Speaker 1: the time, biggest military at the time, and they were
Speaker 1: so embarrassed and they had such big egos that they
Speaker 1: came back and they said, okay, yeah, you got your independence,
Speaker 1: but you owe us. And that's why Haiti is the
Speaker 1: way it is right just finished hadis not the way
Speaker 1: it is right now because Haitians are so you know
Speaker 1: Mongolian or their their Nimrods their it's because the Europeans
Speaker 1: in France made them pay hundreds of billions of dollars
Speaker 1: that could have went to their development. Right, So um, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: is that through NATO that they made him pay? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: they made him pay for generations. So I'm sure the
Speaker 1: World Bank was involved in that too, you know, whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever it was, you know, yeah, they made them pay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you said Nimrod is that the guy who like used
Speaker 1: to cut people's heads off. That's what they say that
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a Christmas trees come from ms ornaments
Speaker 1: is because Nemo used to cut the people heads off
Speaker 1: and put it on trees. Talking about you were talking
Speaker 1: about France. We were talking about France, but you know,
Speaker 1: the French. The reason France is so rich, the reason
Speaker 1: the UK is so rich, colonial is because of the
Speaker 1: extraction of wealth from the Caribbean using Africans. So Africans,
Speaker 1: you know what I always tell those African boys and
Speaker 1: girls and believe and African boys and girls everywhere. You know,
Speaker 1: never feel inferior, never feel you know that you're something less.
Speaker 1: You're a pharaoh, you know, you're you're a king. That's
Speaker 1: where you come from. You were forced into slavery. And
Speaker 1: so the Europeans, the French, the United Kingdom, they got
Speaker 1: their wealth. They they're the ultimate hustle Portuguese as well,
Speaker 1: the ultimate, the ultimate killers and murderers and gangsters. A
Speaker 1: part of that gang right, gangster, he was a gangster,
Speaker 1: you understand. And what they did to native people, they
Speaker 1: pillaged all native pillage. Yeah yeah, so yeah so so.
Speaker 1: But but you know, French France, notwithstanding things that I
Speaker 1: just mentioned, you know, there's a lot of culture there,
Speaker 1: very rich, you know, melting pot of different people, you know, Arabs, Africans, Jews. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I really loved it that. And where else was
Speaker 1: you living. I was in Israel, I was in Jerusalem,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you didn't go straight back to Belize,
Speaker 1: and just now I went straight back to Belize. Why
Speaker 1: do you even stay there? Because you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what it was. I get a lot of flak
Speaker 1: for that. Okay, No, no, no, it's cool. It was
Speaker 1: good to address the flank. Okay, because people say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, well number one, When I was getting ready
Speaker 1: to be deported, I had the most expensive lawyer, and
Speaker 1: I had a whole team of people that wanted to
Speaker 1: fight for me to stay. To believe, I mean, stay
Speaker 1: the State of the States. But my thing was, you know,
Speaker 1: freedom is a muss. I don't want to know. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be incarcerated. I don't want to spend
Speaker 1: a day in prison. You know, the United States. I
Speaker 1: love the United States. It is my second home. But
Speaker 1: I want to be free. I want to be free.
Speaker 1: You know. So they're telling you you're gonna be deported
Speaker 1: in jail, but you know, in the States, they're like, listen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna fight, We're gonna get a lawyer. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make sure you stay. But you know, you gotta sit
Speaker 1: up for like six months, you know, six twelve months
Speaker 1: or more time. Yeah, And I'm like, no, I need
Speaker 1: to be free, you know, toorious b I g sat
Speaker 1: smoking trees and believes that's what I need to be
Speaker 1: thrown up. I don't smoke, but you know I drink. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's okay. Let'slet's take a shot to that man. Let's
Speaker 1: take a shot to that. Goddamnit. It used to set
Speaker 1: it up. Drink about bad you drink when I drink
Speaker 1: Caribbean And yeah. So when that entire process was happening,
Speaker 1: my thing was just freedom, you know. You know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't about being in the United States. It's after nine years,
Speaker 1: was about being free. So you know what, I love.
Speaker 1: Belize sent me to my people, and by God's grace,
Speaker 1: when the time is right, I'll be back in the
Speaker 1: United States on drink champs. But and that Caribbean stout
Speaker 1: and that regular Belican. It's only two rappers that got
Speaker 1: the borted slid it back. Rick, motherfucker. That's my brother too.
Speaker 1: He comes to Belize often, you know, because he does
Speaker 1: those performs on those cruises. Highest regards as wife Mandy.
Speaker 1: That's my sister Slickers, my brother, great guy. Um, you
Speaker 1: know supported me all throughout. You know, they send school
Speaker 1: bags to Belieze they send, you know, education scholarships to Belieze,
Speaker 1: you know, the first time they came to Belize, were
Speaker 1: connected like that. But for my my thing is to
Speaker 1: be free. I didn't want to be incarcerated. The day
Speaker 1: more so I went, I said, listen to send me,
Speaker 1: send me home, because they had six to nine months.
Speaker 1: You got to stay and then I would be the case.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to be free. And I got to belieze.
Speaker 1: You would have to stay in jail or wasn't like
Speaker 1: they said, you have to stay and be in a
Speaker 1: halfway house. No, you gotta stay, you gotta stay. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you were in like um immigration jail. But I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be in any kind of jail. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be free. So when I got to believe, you know,
Speaker 1: I went to Belize. You know, the first things I
Speaker 1: did I went to education, to universities, to high schools
Speaker 1: for Harvard professors, John j professors I went to When
Speaker 1: I landed in Belize, I went from the airport to
Speaker 1: the girls and Boys home, to the home for foster kids.
Speaker 1: I went to prison, the prison of Belise in Belize
Speaker 1: too encourage my brothers and sisters and lift everybody up
Speaker 1: and I donated moneys. I did everything that I had
Speaker 1: to do, but I needed to be free. So I
Speaker 1: will go to Mexico City. I would go to you know, uh,
Speaker 1: Costa Rica, Panama, wherever they were Jewish communities, to go
Speaker 1: pray Sabbath and you know, go do my thing. I
Speaker 1: just want yeah, yeah, except that except let me ask
Speaker 1: you all the stepping because you shine, or they stepping
Speaker 1: you because you're a Jew. No, they accept me because
Speaker 1: when they see that the feeling and they see all
Speaker 1: the stuff that I do. Yeah, that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: something that Moses. Moses did when they see you said
Speaker 1: we need a cup bots like the Jewish kid, that's um,
Speaker 1: that's a farm. Were never on the farm community. We all,
Speaker 1: you're all together, everybody they eat what they grow. Is
Speaker 1: that the way you pronounced the we gotta fix it?
Speaker 1: One thing they know. But I just wanted to be free.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go anywhere I would go. So Friday
Speaker 1: will come voke the flight. I'm out. I'll come back
Speaker 1: on Monday. And then I was in Mexico City shooting
Speaker 1: the video. Shout out to my home girl and Steve
Speaker 1: O as well. Fatima, She's like stylisht quarter, she's stylished extraordin.
Speaker 1: She stole Swiss beats and and um metro not not
Speaker 1: metro booming. Sorry the other kid twenty one savage and
Speaker 1: all these hot kids. That was my stylus that video.
Speaker 1: So I was shooting a video in Mexico City and
Speaker 1: it was Russia. Shanna, that's the New Year, That's the
Speaker 1: Jewish New Year. And so every year when I was
Speaker 1: incarcerated for nine years, I would say next year in Jerusalem.
Speaker 1: And Jerusalem is the frequency center of the universe Christians,
Speaker 1: of the Muslims, of the Joosa, even Buddhist that's the
Speaker 1: nuclear center of the world. Right, So anyway, every year
Speaker 1: I would say next year in Jerusalem. So when I
Speaker 1: was in Mexico City, you know, I had the paper
Speaker 1: I scored to Jerusalem, so I was just gonna go
Speaker 1: there for a couple of days, maybe a week, and
Speaker 1: I just I just stayed there, you know. But it
Speaker 1: was about my freedom. And they got clubs in jerusale
Speaker 1: that's Televisa. I don't know where Jesus is buried. Jesus too,
Speaker 1: it's not it's next to queen, next next to you.
Speaker 1: Try to hit me with ayth you can say to
Speaker 1: me you got you got me. I'm the drink change.
Speaker 1: I want you to know I want to be ederate
Speaker 1: what I was saying earlier. The best year of my life.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't about making now that I'm older, it
Speaker 1: wasn't about making money. It wasn't about having exposure. It
Speaker 1: was about having freedom. You know. Um, I recently watched
Speaker 1: you know Cardy come here. That's the biggest show, right,
Speaker 1: yeah it is. And then I but with that's that's
Speaker 1: that's not why it was. That's the biggest to me,
Speaker 1: to affected me. I recently watched his man just walk
Speaker 1: around by himself. I didn't like that. I'm driving a
Speaker 1: hoop tie where they called the hoop like all the
Speaker 1: way up the block with all my bags. I feel
Speaker 1: like economy too. But we all wanted a hoopie and
Speaker 1: what it's called us freedom? What it called us to do?
Speaker 1: Whatever the fun. Stephen Victors, he's on the peach and yes,
Speaker 1: yes he's he's freedom as well. Yes, what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say is in that tiny eight me get back
Speaker 1: to the point I was trying to make eight. It
Speaker 1: was me dmx Cannabis, Cameron Cappadonna, corrupt cannabis. Was that God? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was, and he was this was it was hard, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: this was O. And then out the blue they say
Speaker 1: this is this guy named Sean and we're all like,
Speaker 1: who the fucking Seine? Why I got talking about him?
Speaker 1: Where's his fads? Where's this thing that you guys are
Speaker 1: talking when you was one of them guys like why
Speaker 1: the fucking kind of might open? Those guys mean definitely,
Speaker 1: let's drink to that. We gotta drink to that. We
Speaker 1: gotta drink to that. Drink about the first day. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember, you gotta drink we gotta
Speaker 1: drink that. So solo, the rumor on the street was
Speaker 1: this guy no record. That's why I kept asking. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you'll remember earlier, I kept asking, when
Speaker 1: was the record that started? He explained it it's because
Speaker 1: it was just him. But by the way that was
Speaker 1: the first Instagram his was and the way that it's spread,
Speaker 1: it spread like something viray on Instagram. Well that's what
Speaker 1: viral was back then, That's what word brow them out
Speaker 1: them out And I kid, you know, I'm not being
Speaker 1: I'm being honest as an outside of looking in I
Speaker 1: was like, who is this guy and how how does
Speaker 1: he have such a like having a buzz without a
Speaker 1: record was unheard of. You couldn't You had to be
Speaker 1: on clues tape starting, starting it, starting it. That means
Speaker 1: that you could have been number seven on clue tape
Speaker 1: and mother like that, ain't it? Because it was the
Speaker 1: first five slots and then seven, eight, nine and ten
Speaker 1: and thirty one. No one to listen to the it's
Speaker 1: the first seven spots. I'm that serious. I'm not even
Speaker 1: if I'm not even playing around. I think people into
Speaker 1: the whole tape. But go ahead, not if you wanted
Speaker 1: to be on top of what if you want to
Speaker 1: be what I'm saying clue tape. Do you know it
Speaker 1: was the first ten songs? Maybe ten, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: it's the first seven. I'm telling you that meant something
Speaker 1: to the world. Hot ninety seven were literally because there
Speaker 1: wasn't no power one or five back then. They were
Speaker 1: looking to the listen to the first ten clue songs
Speaker 1: of the were seven clue sauls and those songs will
Speaker 1: be added to rotation. That's literally how the world was
Speaker 1: at one point. So I say that to say it's
Speaker 1: all bigging you up. Just let's let's roll. I said
Speaker 1: to say, you had none of that, and you had
Speaker 1: the world saying, I'm giving him a one man deaf jams.
Speaker 1: I'm giving him one point to um electure Sylvie Rune.
Speaker 1: Come on, Jimmy Ivan. Jesus, you know Jimmy Ivan is
Speaker 1: so important because right now Stephen Victor he got that.
Speaker 1: Jimmy I v money too. Yes, you know what Stephen Victor.
Speaker 1: With Stephen Victor him, don't just talk fly. He gives back.
Speaker 1: He's given like you know, a hundred thousand two, believes
Speaker 1: in education funds. Goddamnit. He's giving much. He's given um.
Speaker 1: He's giving me money to sign artists and believe he's
Speaker 1: giving me mom money. Yuse my money is like millions
Speaker 1: of dollars. So we're not we're not. We're not there.
Speaker 1: As far as the charity money, he's making sure that
Speaker 1: charity money there. But Jimmy Irvine, you know, Stephen Victor
Speaker 1: reminds me of a young Jimmy Avine. And I told
Speaker 1: him that you'll tell you beautiful, No, he'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I told him this thirteen years ago. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I told you that the house avaliable. That's all you
Speaker 1: gotta do. And the black Jim got a house, a house.
Speaker 1: He got a dog when he got the house. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I want to shop for that. I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like that. That's that's only Caribbean like one. I'm
Speaker 1: doing all y'all drinking like it's all beliefs. It's all beliefs.
Speaker 1: I noticed that I went to Dominican Republan. But let
Speaker 1: me call in this episode all beliefs, beliefs all my
Speaker 1: mom but Jimmy, Jimmy Ivine, Jimmy Ivine told me, you
Speaker 1: know when I went to UM, when I went to
Speaker 1: sign with him, when he interviewed me, look at the
Speaker 1: main kids are they always want to charm in his
Speaker 1: isn't his entype of thing was? You know, you gotta
Speaker 1: be self contained. I don't want to sign UM. I
Speaker 1: don't want to sign nobody that I gotta manage and
Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, micromanage. And you know that's why
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I give a round of applause
Speaker 1: and Steve the victor, because that's what I'm telling my
Speaker 1: artists right now. And believe I can't make them a hit.
Speaker 1: I can't wave a magic wand and they'll be famous tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But if they work hard, if they're determined, if they
Speaker 1: want them to run through the brick wall the way
Speaker 1: I was, if they're wanting to jump into Miami Beach
Speaker 1: see and swim to Cuba to believe that Jamaica, they'll
Speaker 1: get there. But I'm not gonna wait for one for
Speaker 1: them to get there and get them the holy Grail.
Speaker 1: They gotta, They gotta find the holy They gotta like
Speaker 1: you found. That's beautiful. So you once said hip hop
Speaker 1: it's not the cause for violence in America. Hip hop
Speaker 1: and responsible for responsible for the violence as in America.
Speaker 1: It's a very deep statement, sir. You know, but I
Speaker 1: wanna we gotta drink to Uncle Joe because I don't
Speaker 1: like calling him out. No, no, I call him Uncle Joe.
Speaker 1: That's my guy. Don't get between me and Uncle Joe.
Speaker 1: We got a thing. I'm an independent, We got a thing.
Speaker 1: You could all right, You gotta brown always wasn't definitely
Speaker 1: not Uncle Joe. Uncle excuse me, Hold on, Joe. She's
Speaker 1: with she's with the other guy. I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: say his name. Yeah, that's a bad omen. President President Biden.
Speaker 1: What I like about President Biden. It's the fact that
Speaker 1: I love how we're talking politics for the first time.
Speaker 1: The fact that you know, he said he was gonna
Speaker 1: do one, two, three, four five, and he's doing that,
Speaker 1: So like what what you voted? Listen. I love Kanye.
Speaker 1: I love over this episode. Listen. Listen, listen, listen part
Speaker 1: of part of I'm not part of the brotherhood. But listen,
Speaker 1: Kanye ain't get elected. I got elected. He got a
Speaker 1: ten billion, right, he got that over me. But he
Speaker 1: didn't get elected. I got elected. He failed on that one,
Speaker 1: so I got him out on it. But that still
Speaker 1: my brother. So we could trade notes. It's a strawberry switch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll do that. But the point, the point I'm making this, um,
Speaker 1: you know President Biden, he said infrastructure, he said he
Speaker 1: was gonna, you know, do this, do that. Black agenda,
Speaker 1: just a black agenda we're getting. Then. See that's why
Speaker 1: I don't like no, no, no, but but you can't
Speaker 1: we need that. First only been a year, but he
Speaker 1: was born Rack Obama right hand man ship. No, it's
Speaker 1: only been a year. It's only been a year. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm telling you right here on drink
Speaker 1: Champs I'm going to meet with President Biden and you know,
Speaker 1: I'll discussed. I like that agenda you got here. But
Speaker 1: Obama didn't have a black agenda. But I'm not unless
Speaker 1: he had. He had, he had an American agenda. We
Speaker 1: can't do that. We can't. And what I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Rep. Uh baby uh Rep. How came
Speaker 1: Jeffreys's on? Hold on, hold on hold on the Congressional
Speaker 1: Black Caucus they all standing up clapping right now because
Speaker 1: they brought this infrastructure bill, bipartisan bill the past, and
Speaker 1: that's the Congressional Black Caucus. So obviously this infrastructure bill
Speaker 1: is affecting black people and it's benefiting black people. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you the head of the Congressional Black Caucus. You
Speaker 1: go to her page, she's like, oh yeah, we just
Speaker 1: passed this bill and the Congressional Black Caucus is responsible for.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is President Biden, he's delivering. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he's delivering. We can't, we can't, we
Speaker 1: can't eat, we listen, we can't eat, can't, we can't
Speaker 1: do everything in one day. But I'm telling you he's deliverment.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm happy that he's making moves, and
Speaker 1: I wish that in Belize. You know, the government would
Speaker 1: do what they said that was gonna do, because they're
Speaker 1: not doing what they said that was gonna do. Joe
Speaker 1: said infrastructure, and Joe just delivering infrastructure with the Republicans supported.
Speaker 1: Because I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a Republican. I'm
Speaker 1: a moderate. I'm an mit him. I'm for whatever is
Speaker 1: best for people. I understand what Republicans say, I understand
Speaker 1: what Democrats say, and I'm for what's best for Belize
Speaker 1: and what's best for people. Yeah. So yeah, Jesus, I
Speaker 1: give Uncle Joe the chance. You're not gonna change my mind.
Speaker 1: Kanye still my man, but Uncle Joe getting the chance.
Speaker 1: Drink to that Uncle Joe. I'm on music questions because
Speaker 1: she got real all right, How was it working with
Speaker 1: Nate Dog because you know there's so many people know
Speaker 1: I'm talking trying to remember who hit me with that song?
Speaker 1: Um behind the Wall, Yep, I got the call and
Speaker 1: did you go last? But listen, I got the call.
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not even gonna hold you like that.
Speaker 1: That's Victor's that's term. You're not gonna hold you. I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna hold you. I was not in the
Speaker 1: studio with when they're doing you never met him or
Speaker 1: did you meet him? You met him? I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if I met him, but I wasn't in the studio
Speaker 1: with him for that song. I was driving around New
Speaker 1: York City and that Bentley and god damn small sething
Speaker 1: like that. I had that six hundred, the Bentley and
Speaker 1: the brain Drover. I don't even remember the name of
Speaker 1: that watch you got on, right, you got this the Masterpiece.
Speaker 1: This is what I got on it? Like happy, So
Speaker 1: I had the Platinum master Yeah, I had to Platinum
Speaker 1: master Piece. You got to gold joint, gold down. People
Speaker 1: don't even know what that is. Right, I had to
Speaker 1: plant in the master you got two thousand one. But
Speaker 1: I had you know right now? Yeah he was. I
Speaker 1: was outside, Oh damn my bu shopping speaking of yours,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, you know, I got relaxed. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I was. I was driving around New York City and
Speaker 1: that Benyonnage and that Platinum Masterpiece. Um, and I got
Speaker 1: the call. It was like, yo, corrupt, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? They want you. I want you to hit
Speaker 1: that remix. You know corrupt, corrupt? Is that guy that
Speaker 1: super talent, the whole cruel dog, you know what that
Speaker 1: so for me, it was like honor. It's like you
Speaker 1: got the call from them, you know. I want to
Speaker 1: give Swiss beats his flowers as well. He was like
Speaker 1: one of the first guys that hit me. Um. When
Speaker 1: the album dropped, it was like, and that's how we
Speaker 1: ended up doing Shine, which was on his album. I
Speaker 1: forgot the name of his album, his first album, I
Speaker 1: want that drink to each of the compilation compilation. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: has to be right. He called me for that record.
Speaker 1: That was one of the best records I ever did.
Speaker 1: Get pulled up in the noge, you know, because Benny's
Speaker 1: was That was like thing back then again to my
Speaker 1: young African American brothers, Latin American brothers, don't spend what
Speaker 1: you don't have. Save your money, invests, grow your money,
Speaker 1: you know, don't you know, don't spend what you don't have.
Speaker 1: But anyway, back then, spending what you don't have, that
Speaker 1: was a part of the culture. Spending, not making just
Speaker 1: every now and then, I like to do it. Man. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I was driving around the town and your Swiss call me.
Speaker 1: He made that beat, but can we play that? Dude,
Speaker 1: got the music up? You got my man already Google
Speaker 1: and other year you got the shine. Definitely pull it up.
Speaker 1: I got enough that it was crazy. What was the
Speaker 1: was all my mot Mabel women? Just shine got me? Anyway? Anyway,
Speaker 1: Swiss called me, Yeah, yeah, but it's on the Gulf. No,
Speaker 1: that's the song that he had a compilation. Yeah, anyway
Speaker 1: to look at this, it's catalog on Wikipedia. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: so um yeah, just the record right here. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I thought, yeah, yeah, but that was twist. I
Speaker 1: started on Swis. Listen, I did not write this verse?
Speaker 1: What I did not write this verse? Stop? Swiss was
Speaker 1: on Fort Street between right the next street after Daddy's
Speaker 1: house studios. I went to the studio. I had the
Speaker 1: Long John's same thing that I said in the wrap.
Speaker 1: I had the Long John fitted U tupoc Timberland's our
Speaker 1: knowledge Bentley. I went up in a joint. He made
Speaker 1: this beat and I listened to the beat for like
Speaker 1: ten minutes, fifteen minutes, the freestyle, the rap, and then
Speaker 1: I made this rap. If you said you didn't write it,
Speaker 1: I made that rap freestyle. I made that rap. I
Speaker 1: had a conversation. But your freestyle, no want wrote it
Speaker 1: for You did your freestyle. It's the way you did it.
Speaker 1: Our fans are sucking vicious, So I had to make
Speaker 1: sure there's a difference with your freestyling and writing it
Speaker 1: in your mind. In my mind saying like J no
Speaker 1: no no. So you're trying to say you did this
Speaker 1: before JA no no No, I didn't after j J.
Speaker 1: Was you heard just listen when you love music so
Speaker 1: much and that's all you do, which was I thank
Speaker 1: God forgetting to that phase with all I ever thought about,
Speaker 1: all I ever wanted to do was make music. So
Speaker 1: it's like I was going to court. I was facing
Speaker 1: twenty five years, you know, incarcerated for something that I
Speaker 1: didn't do, for defending my friend. And you know, when
Speaker 1: I would leave court, I would go home. I put
Speaker 1: on my you know, Thermo, my fitted my tuopop boots,
Speaker 1: and I get in my car, drive around and I
Speaker 1: go to the studio and I just have conversations on
Speaker 1: beats with with with all the big references that people
Speaker 1: give you, you don't ever see all the parallels and
Speaker 1: your guys lives with the single mother, the Caribbean, the
Speaker 1: the street stuff, that the only the only thing we
Speaker 1: have in common is we did two classic albums and
Speaker 1: then that was it. You don't think everything else is
Speaker 1: he went Caribbean. I guess you know, Brooklyn, I guess
Speaker 1: my mom like that. He's a big part of that.
Speaker 1: He went to heaven, you know, the rest his memory forever.
Speaker 1: You went to purgatory and I went to I went
Speaker 1: to correctional facilities, you know, because it was the same.
Speaker 1: Like you know, yeah, I was. I was buried a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, but but there's so many African Americans and
Speaker 1: Latino Americans and minorities that face that struggle, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, so, yeah, that was a real struggle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so I'll tell you what, Um, not only was
Speaker 1: I excited, you know, you're my friend, like you know,
Speaker 1: I knew you for twenty years. If we go to
Speaker 1: about this battle too that you had with my song,
Speaker 1: what we talked about about that Mallory, Yes, yes, yes
Speaker 1: that's my sister, but but my sister system. So I
Speaker 1: went through your holder discography, right and because I'm excited,
Speaker 1: you know, just because you're my friend doesn't mean I'm
Speaker 1: gonna slack on my job, right, this is my job.
Speaker 1: I gotta do it. The only thing. Hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: we gotta take a shot to you. Okay, But because
Speaker 1: you're doing an incredible job, thank you, But this is
Speaker 1: doing right. I like you becoming as I liked on
Speaker 1: the transition. Listen to transition to transition that you've made
Speaker 1: from you know, a rap, you know platinum artists making
Speaker 1: great records than reinventing yourself. Thank you, and being a
Speaker 1: bridge being a platform for hip hop. Thank you. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: But the only record right when I went through your
Speaker 1: holdest I really really did right, And the only record
Speaker 1: that even similar reminded me a big because now I
Speaker 1: could distinguish your voice. Back then, I didn't understand, like
Speaker 1: I was like cool, people say signs look real. I
Speaker 1: got that names will flow. Damn, that's kind of I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was like that. But the only
Speaker 1: record I could see that sounded remotely a little like
Speaker 1: man was the record called Their Head No, because it
Speaker 1: reminded me of Gloria from a story like that's I was.
Speaker 1: I was telling the story. I was telling the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying. But if you that's
Speaker 1: the only But if you listen to that story that
Speaker 1: still it's crazy, No, it is, its insane. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that story was from hanging with guys like Zip, Yes,
Speaker 1: hanging with you know, guys on the West Coast, you know,
Speaker 1: guys in Baltimore, guys in Atlanta that you know, we're
Speaker 1: really living that life. You know, rest in peace too,
Speaker 1: Anthony Wolf Jones, my brothers, the Homi. That's that's all
Speaker 1: my brother and I was the home all all the
Speaker 1: information that they were giving me. That that's what was
Speaker 1: really happening. And again that goes back, you know, to
Speaker 1: Oliver North, goes back to Ronald Reagan. You're on conscious
Speaker 1: you know, Noriega by how does that be? So? So yeah,
Speaker 1: all that information. Yeah, you know, big meat, big beach.
Speaker 1: He olden and dirt, you know what I mean, been around.
Speaker 1: He looked young, but he was there back back in
Speaker 1: the eighties. Crack cocaine ever. Wow. So we spoke about
Speaker 1: Nate earlier, right, but you also got the record called
Speaker 1: That's Gangster. You know, I'm gonna tell a secret right now,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give flowers. I'm gonna gives but not
Speaker 1: not just not just not just the d C who
Speaker 1: was the hero, and I picked every beat for the
Speaker 1: shann album. I'm I'm really the executive producers shot out.
Speaker 1: But I got that from Nahs the album I am
Speaker 1: with the Egyptian Flowership and he still had Queen's Bitch
Speaker 1: in the bat and he hit that that ain't gangster.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what the song it was that fake dogs,
Speaker 1: I don't remember what song was where he he had
Speaker 1: a rap that said that ain't gangster. And so I
Speaker 1: took that and I said, you know what, that's gangster
Speaker 1: from Commissary and your homies gangster, that s gangster. You
Speaker 1: know what made you pick that? Called float flooded with rocks,
Speaker 1: that's gangster. So I got that from nuns. That's the
Speaker 1: plane change. You ain't flood that, you know. I'm got
Speaker 1: that head. That's the factory. Let's take a shot of that.
Speaker 1: I take the train, I fly another episode, but you
Speaker 1: got another episode. So so when you came home, you
Speaker 1: also named the record label gang Land Records. Now the
Speaker 1: record label is Omni Belize Records. Every Thing believes any
Speaker 1: means everything you knew. I'll let us ask what everything everything?
Speaker 1: And are you interested? Let's just be clear and doing
Speaker 1: another shout out. You know Stephen Victor and I, you know,
Speaker 1: we're partners. We're doing a documentary. We're doing about let
Speaker 1: me rephrase that. We're doing a biodocumentary like biopic slash documentary. No, no,
Speaker 1: we're doing a biodocumentary. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: A biogury documentary. That means a documentary about my life. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're doing a bio movie means a movie about my life. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's like n w A and we're a rescripted. We're
Speaker 1: doing a TV series about my life. So all of
Speaker 1: those three assets will be a company with albums inspired
Speaker 1: by those assets. So the TV series, we hope, you know,
Speaker 1: that would be a couple of years. Because in Belize, Belies,
Speaker 1: there's a narco trafficking hub of you know, all of
Speaker 1: the cocaine from Venezuela, Colombia stops in Belize, going to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Um so there's there's a lot of stories to tell,
Speaker 1: a lot of stories to tell. I definitely didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Did you get your Belie narkos Belie narcos, They got
Speaker 1: Belies Les Belies was in Narcos. We got the Belize Narcos.
Speaker 1: But again, Belize is not gonna be known for that,
Speaker 1: right because it's gonna be known for the first rap prime.
Speaker 1: Minister putting that out there, you know, I'll be the
Speaker 1: first rap prime When when? When is the time? You
Speaker 1: know that that could happen a couple of years? You know,
Speaker 1: we don't and we just legal beliefs, right, we don't know.
Speaker 1: You took that, we don't know, and you transition that
Speaker 1: into weeds. You're a real rapper, not change. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a member of the House of Representatives
Speaker 1: UM National Security Committee, and we just legalized weed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know I got to take this opportunity to knowledge.
Speaker 1: You know, my friend um uh man, you're gonna make
Speaker 1: me forget her name with all these shots. Gloria from Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. They say glory for washing the heights. I said,
Speaker 1: I know how to not not glorious, not glorious form storia.
Speaker 1: I know how to Gloria. Gloria and my god Cal
Speaker 1: from Washington, d C. We're doing the um, We're doing
Speaker 1: the Cannabest. They're gonna do a cannabis festival. In beliefe Um,
Speaker 1: you need smoke Champs. So let me ask you. We're
Speaker 1: gonna fly you out. We're gonna feel us, We're gonna
Speaker 1: flood you because um, you have the biggest boss there was.
Speaker 1: We gotta talk about this house representative thing though, man, okay,
Speaker 1: let's come back to that talking about we don't know.
Speaker 1: I think, I just I just gotta established this one
Speaker 1: thing right, and then we're going to to my somebody
Speaker 1: and then we go to the House of representative problems.
Speaker 1: But the House of representative thing. But you and you
Speaker 1: locked up. You are, for lack of a better term,
Speaker 1: like we established earlier, the New York TUPAC, the industry TUPAC,
Speaker 1: and the world's TUPAC inspired so many people. You know,
Speaker 1: cheers my little brother Game one man, Yeah, changing my
Speaker 1: little brother Game, who never shot away from talking about
Speaker 1: how much I inspired him and how much you know,
Speaker 1: I contributed to his rap career. I inspired so many
Speaker 1: people so that that the numbers again. He was the
Speaker 1: first person a depth Jam gave two million dollars in jail?
Speaker 1: Was that something? Am? I wait? A much more than
Speaker 1: two millions? When then they game, you know, ch cheers
Speaker 1: to l a read l a read Kevin Liles three
Speaker 1: hundred Yeah, and um, but you in jail. How does
Speaker 1: this work? Do they put that in your commissary? Not
Speaker 1: how it works. They gave it to Mama Love, Mama, Mama,
Speaker 1: Mama Love. She was Mama Love getting check chears to
Speaker 1: my mother. Here's Mama Love. Mama Love got first with
Speaker 1: your mama Love. Mama Love got the first. She was
Speaker 1: every black mama there live in Belize as well. She
Speaker 1: was born in Belize. No, she's still in the six
Speaker 1: for all the time that I was in cons read
Speaker 1: that she never worked. Wow, today she doesn't work. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I gave gave her all my royalties, all my assets,
Speaker 1: beautiful and music, and you know, take care of her beautiful.
Speaker 1: But you know she's been through a lot. Your only chet,
Speaker 1: seeing your baby, baby a child. You put her through
Speaker 1: a lot. I was only yeah. Yeah, So everything that
Speaker 1: I give to her she deserves. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was funny that you broke up forty five Street,
Speaker 1: right because forty five Street. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know when you said that, that was a student called
Speaker 1: sound on Sound. That's where we did. That's where I
Speaker 1: was we did all That's what I did. That's why
Speaker 1: I did the first song to my album U. That's
Speaker 1: why I wants you to see Big by the way.
Speaker 1: Only when survived we can people believe and get found
Speaker 1: with their face waste. Everyone used to be like think
Speaker 1: Big was just being Daddy's house boat on low when
Speaker 1: he was going to be away from everyone, he would
Speaker 1: turn the course and go. But there's one day on
Speaker 1: Sound South, we're sitting there. We just had shots my
Speaker 1: South and then later on we filed out. It was
Speaker 1: like a junior Boflia Shine incident. That was on forty
Speaker 1: four Street, which was for very next blocks, which I
Speaker 1: did not realize. And you know, you know, Caesar is
Speaker 1: my god all these years, all these is he's like
Speaker 1: one of my biggest supporters. And you go on this page,
Speaker 1: you can see you know, I remember when we had
Speaker 1: the Bad Boy Um reunion. He's like he was one
Speaker 1: of the first people like yo, because I performed at
Speaker 1: the Bad Boy Reunion, you know, and he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, this is history, Like this is incredible moment
Speaker 1: in the hip hop, the rock. You know, b K Rule,
Speaker 1: you know Rule. Oh my guys, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But you know, things happen. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: things happen. But those are all my guys, and I
Speaker 1: think you know a part of it's just like you know,
Speaker 1: with me now and believes in the House who representatives.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm paying my dues. You know, I'm paying
Speaker 1: my debt. You know. That's the reason I bring Caribbean Rum.
Speaker 1: But we like I bring Belikin, I bring ninety one.
Speaker 1: I didn't even give you all of it. All the
Speaker 1: shirts yea, everything where I got for you gonna wear
Speaker 1: other shows and everything. I'm just telling you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying this, this is a reason because I paid
Speaker 1: my dues. I don't know who know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know who, who's that, who's the But I
Speaker 1: paid my dues. So it's like even even with those guys,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you know, you don't know, you don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on. You're like, yo, I heard this,
Speaker 1: I heard that. This is a joint right here, this
Speaker 1: is you know what I'm saying. It's all right, let's yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come to the end. But yeah, so like
Speaker 1: with that, you know, just for me, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: this one. But if we wanted that one, you know,
Speaker 1: my guy to your Maia d Rock, what's it this
Speaker 1: grac was there? Like well, I think you know it
Speaker 1: was just miscommunication. I brought to so working for you,
Speaker 1: I'll take minds immediately. I mean, put it all right,
Speaker 1: I'm into the interview. I can't believe put it on.
Speaker 1: Put it on my hats. Yeah, I don't put it
Speaker 1: on my hand. I got a half for I don't
Speaker 1: even have a worn a hat. Okay, you look like
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Pack. Hold on to it. I mean,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, got wrong. So was that, you know, not
Speaker 1: that that was just I think, you know, just miscommunication
Speaker 1: of you know, just not knowing you do, not understanding
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, just you know, but
Speaker 1: those are my guys, like the Rock is my man.
Speaker 1: We did with shots Fly was locked up together, really,
Speaker 1: I mean at the same time, maybe not the same facility.
Speaker 1: And it's always been loved because as you got the reports,
Speaker 1: they got the reports that shine as we used to
Speaker 1: say back in that time, it is official tissue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: God bless it's my god, God blest that right. She's
Speaker 1: the Luise hold on. Let me see believes you gotta
Speaker 1: do believes. So yeah, let's talk about it. Let's go
Speaker 1: let's talk about so everybody got to go to believes.
Speaker 1: You said you want to talk about Actually, so no,
Speaker 1: I just want everybody because before you even proceed, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna get the sweatshirt, who has
Speaker 1: what I'm in? Who has better word waters, who has
Speaker 1: better waters Turks and cakeos or believes better waters. Let's
Speaker 1: be clear, Beliefs has better everything. Really, the one is
Speaker 1: everything is better in beliefs. That's the slogan. That's the
Speaker 1: slogan that I'm made up. Alright, cool, it's just throwing
Speaker 1: just in away like a spot so good. So bottom line,
Speaker 1: this is where we're leaving with this, right, Sean Police
Speaker 1: is the best place in the world, on the planet,
Speaker 1: definitely the best place to meet, but one of the
Speaker 1: best places in the world. I encourage everybody to visit.
Speaker 1: Please this your goal is to be prime minister. What
Speaker 1: do we do? Do me? Pop jay Z, Kanye West? Nah,
Speaker 1: I have to take a boat down there, and we
Speaker 1: got a campaign. Got about the bag right, got to
Speaker 1: change people's lives. I gotta change Stephen Victor. You know
Speaker 1: that's that's he got the bag. No, I'm just saying, no,
Speaker 1: you don't got the bag. He's giving the bag. He's
Speaker 1: getting on the PJ and he's flying to Belize on
Speaker 1: Garrett for the Sentiment Day, and he's giving away like
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars. We gotta go, we gotta go. Man,
Speaker 1: He's not giving away. He's giving away for for scholarships
Speaker 1: for Armory School, scholarships for junior high, the scholarships for university.
Speaker 1: It's called Stephen victor Um Scholarship. Fun and then you
Speaker 1: have different different shiphip. I'm gonna be honest. We got
Speaker 1: the same initiationes be as me, be as as as
Speaker 1: to be so like whatever his donation is, Little pod So.
Speaker 1: I was playing around earlier, but now I'm serious. It's
Speaker 1: the goal to make you the prime minister for real?
Speaker 1: Would this ever be that? Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like like for awesome for real? She's like, can we go?
Speaker 1: And what does the prime minister mean? The Prime minister
Speaker 1: is the president? You know, you know what. It's lack
Speaker 1: of Joe Biden. It's all the things that you know.
Speaker 1: I compliment President Biden for doing I like to do
Speaker 1: for my people. I'd like to provide free education for
Speaker 1: my people where they don't have to go to a politician.
Speaker 1: But it's a part of the systematic UM operations. Health Care,
Speaker 1: you know, health care is still a problems. Access to
Speaker 1: health care still the problem. Minimum wage you know that
Speaker 1: the type of Yeah, we've got to raise the minimum wage.
Speaker 1: You know. Access to housing, affordable housing, UM, it's a problem.
Speaker 1: Access to funding, um, to start your own business, you know,
Speaker 1: because if you're a poor person, you don't got no credit,
Speaker 1: you don't got no savings, you ain't got nothing. But
Speaker 1: we as a government have to customize financing for people
Speaker 1: like that. You know. Land it's very important, um. You
Speaker 1: know the caboots that yeah, you talked about. We've got
Speaker 1: to teach our people to grow what they eat. We've
Speaker 1: got to teach our people to be self relying, even
Speaker 1: if it's animals, I mean, whatever, whatever it is, I
Speaker 1: mean to be self reliance. So we got to give
Speaker 1: our people land, you know, part of reparations. And in
Speaker 1: the when when when the man's the patient happened, the
Speaker 1: Africans throughout the Caribbeans were given nothing. They weren't given
Speaker 1: any land, they weren't giving any money. They weren't given
Speaker 1: any housing. They weren't given anything, right. Um, So part
Speaker 1: of farming is, you know, we used to pick cotton
Speaker 1: for a slave master. We used to farm for a
Speaker 1: slave master. We need to have our own land and
Speaker 1: farm for ourselves, for our own cottony do our own
Speaker 1: things be self sustained. And that's something that I want
Speaker 1: to teach the inter city, you know. So these are
Speaker 1: all the things that I bring to the table um
Speaker 1: when it comes to, you know, leading a country. But
Speaker 1: it's not about being the prime minister. It's about the lease.
Speaker 1: Even if I'm not the prime minister. It's about beliefs
Speaker 1: and whatever I could do to belize. Whatever I could
Speaker 1: do four beliefs, I want to do four belies. I
Speaker 1: love that shot man. You got you got anything ship?
Speaker 1: I think you covered it all. You got anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say? Because belize beliefs, beliefs. I see
Speaker 1: you guys in Belie for New Years. We want to
Speaker 1: see you. Got to be there at least I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be there coming home and Belie. Oh that's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got a series We Go Anywhere, not anywhere. Guy,
Speaker 1: to the way you're saying, this is how terrible brother.
Speaker 1: I go to different countries, but I want to go
Speaker 1: to Belize. Yeah he got he got a lot of
Speaker 1: safe ship's. Man, this is good to Belie. You know,
Speaker 1: our children are people and believes. They just need opportunity,
Speaker 1: they just need hope. And for the last forty years
Speaker 1: we've had politicians that are only concerned with themselves. And
Speaker 1: you know, once you have that, then you know, the
Speaker 1: people becomes canon cannibalism. You know, I got to eat.
Speaker 1: You know, my my young guy he left is in Coasa,
Speaker 1: not no Cosa was here. Yeah, this kid Coach that
Speaker 1: he produces with um Um Russian A Russian is the
Speaker 1: kid that produces for Vibes Cartel and and a bunch
Speaker 1: of the big Jamaican artists. Coast is a belief and
Speaker 1: kid grew up in Belize. When I first went back
Speaker 1: to Belize, one of the things that I did was
Speaker 1: I had a m a listen to the session every
Speaker 1: week with studio called Height Survibes. You know my bedron
Speaker 1: called father lie Fatherly, not Father Lether. And this kid
Speaker 1: Coosa was a part of that system. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You produced for Kevin Gates, Bad Bunny, Jay
Speaker 1: Bafflin all these guys, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: we got you know, um Man bust this guy um
Speaker 1: Ot Genesis, he's from believes. He's a guard Refunda. He's
Speaker 1: a guard refund of, just like me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So you know what, We've got some some
Speaker 1: believes in stuff. Let's make some choice believes. You take
Speaker 1: a picture and do a couple of drops and yeah,
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