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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I heart radio and it's drink that's motherfucking podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green is your

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Speaker 1: boy in r E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer.

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Speaker 1: Up is d J e f N. Together they drink

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Speaker 1: it up with some of the biggest players in the

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Speaker 1: most professional unprofessional podcast. And your number one sort for

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Speaker 1: drunk drink is New year Z that time for Drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Drink Up, mother would it could be hopefully want to

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Speaker 1: see me? This is your boy and what up is

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Speaker 1: d J e f N? And this is Drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Right now we got velvet covers villain, so we're developing rock.

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Speaker 1: We try to throw me off like I wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: keep that first off. Let me just say something, man

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Speaker 1: sis to the left of us right now. Not only

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Speaker 1: was a person that came up, was honorable in the streets,

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Speaker 1: held it down, came and I believe this is the

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Speaker 1: first time we heard bad Boy gave a million dollar

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Speaker 1: deal and then I heard it was another million on

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Speaker 1: publishing this dude, I can't lie to you. I was there,

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Speaker 1: I saw it He had one of the biggest buzzes

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Speaker 1: in New York City, and I would be wrong if

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Speaker 1: I say New York City, because he had one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest buzzes in the industry. People were looking for

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Speaker 1: a savior after Biggie Smalls, and this was the guy

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Speaker 1: people came into, invested into. He got into one of

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Speaker 1: the craziest incidents in New York City's history. He held

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Speaker 1: it down, held it down like a man, came home,

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Speaker 1: did it, didn't what he had to do, came home.

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Speaker 1: Uh became a part of the government of Police, changed

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Speaker 1: his whole life around and every aspect of everything he did.

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Speaker 1: He was frail with it and he's still being real

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Speaker 1: with it now. In case you don't know what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, we talked about shine. Motherfucker. No pos We

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Speaker 1: just want motherfucker. You know what. I'll start with that.

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Speaker 1: I'll start with that that woman introduction umps. But let

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Speaker 1: me ask you about that. You know, we're all from

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Speaker 1: New York. We all got the story that recently uh

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Speaker 1: al Pole passed away, right, had his demise? Uh, what

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Speaker 1: did what did you feel about that? Because you know

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Speaker 1: you didn't name yourself after him at one point, you know,

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Speaker 1: that that's a very um ironic situation because obviously I

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Speaker 1: was faced with the same um circumstances that he was

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Speaker 1: faced with, and I actually anticipated my circumstances. If you

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Speaker 1: listen to the life on my first album, I got well,

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, um, you know I'll be out

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Speaker 1: in ten start over again. Um. But I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't understand if you ain't been through it, the

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Speaker 1: rules to it. Couldn't break them death before the sign

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Speaker 1: until I meet Satan um. So the way I got

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Speaker 1: that name was a mixture of Edgar Allan Poe the

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Speaker 1: Pope and out Poe because I was dating a female

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Speaker 1: an executive in the industry. Um. And so she called

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Speaker 1: me that name because you know, when I was young,

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Speaker 1: when I was eighteen years old, I was um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I had a lot of energy. It's really aggressive. I

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Speaker 1: had that Brooklyn aggression. So it's stranging. He's a halemn guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, but I was flashy. I think that's that

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Speaker 1: beliezing to me. Us beliezings. There's a word that you call.

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Speaker 1: You call it breaking. You know, we we really confident

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Speaker 1: and so I had that energy. Um. You know I

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Speaker 1: had the six hunted, I had the you know, the

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Speaker 1: And you know, it was just a lot with me.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of flash, a lot of excitement.

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Speaker 1: And she said, you know, I remind her of him.

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Speaker 1: But thankfully, UM, I was not like him, you know,

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Speaker 1: because I stuck to my honors and I stuck to

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Speaker 1: my integrity. And you know, you're not a man or

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Speaker 1: you're not a person of integrity until your face with

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Speaker 1: a decision that you have to make where your life

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Speaker 1: that's when you know who you are. And I always,

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Speaker 1: song about was was my gospel. It was the honest truth.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I thank God that I didn't fail

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Speaker 1: let's make some noise of that us. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go through your musical history first, right, all right, before

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Speaker 1: before I even get into this, how did you start rapping?

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Speaker 1: What was it? You know? Um, usually I take the

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Speaker 1: train and I walk. I'm thankful because you told me.

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Speaker 1: For a lot of there was like you know, I

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Speaker 1: didn't even leave believe yet, so I could have got

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Speaker 1: A lot of that because I'm here in Florida for

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Speaker 1: the Florida Trade Culture Expo. Because you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: government official. I'm the Shadow Minister of Foreign the Fairs, Diaspora, FIRS, Culture,

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Speaker 1: Youth and Sports. Um, so that's why I'm hit. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I know we spoke the last time. I

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Speaker 1: promised you the next time world yea, yeah. So so

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Speaker 1: the way I started rapping, and I said all that

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Speaker 1: to say, I was driving and so you know I'm

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Speaker 1: listening to Barrington Leavy. That's my first question, that one.

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Speaker 1: You know, Um, but even Barrington before Butchers Barrington is

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Speaker 1: like an institution. So so that's how I started rapping

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Speaker 1: the same way Cool Hurt hip hop. Cool Hurt created

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Speaker 1: hip hop. Yes, he's a Jamaican DJ that came to

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Speaker 1: started rapping. You know, my name used to be Shaba Wow.

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Speaker 1: That that's what he used to call me from Granny

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Speaker 1: Kid the Grammy kids, and so that was my idol,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um and I had the same baritone, same

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Speaker 1: heavy voice. So I I used to actually chat you know,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to following the steps of Shoa and yeah,

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Speaker 1: bounty killer Beanie. Those were the guy that was with

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Speaker 1: a guy right, you know what I mean in in

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Speaker 1: in the community that that I was raised. You know,

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Speaker 1: they call it little Haiti now um. You know, but

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Speaker 1: that whole Flatbush Church Avenue, you know, all the way

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Speaker 1: from the Caribbean. So initially I wanted to be you know,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to chat um. And then I transitioned. I

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Speaker 1: transitioned into rat you know, but I wasn't. You know.

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Speaker 1: Music saved my life, Bob Marley, you know I used

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Speaker 1: to you know, I got shot when I was young.

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Speaker 1: I was in the streets defending myself. Um. Very violent

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Speaker 1: community is most inner city communities for African Americans and Latinos,

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Speaker 1: and and you know, minorities grow up very violent, very predatory,

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Speaker 1: very killer, be killed and so you know My mom

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Speaker 1: her only boy. So when I got shot, I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: Bob Marley used to calm me down, you know when

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Speaker 1: you listen to Bob Marley, and I used to say, man,

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Speaker 1: to have on the world. Wasn't a particular record or

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Speaker 1: everything right, um and and you know, so my passion

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Speaker 1: for music was always there, but I transitioned, like you know,

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Speaker 1: I used to listen to guys like Terri Fabulous, you know,

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Speaker 1: Heavy D. You know he was the first to really

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Speaker 1: watch that. But Heavy D mix that what you're making.

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Speaker 1: So it was an easy transition for me. You know,

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Speaker 1: of trying to divorce myself from the jungle because I

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Speaker 1: I would eat a lion, I would eat a gazelle.

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Speaker 1: And that's how music, you know, saved my life because

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Speaker 1: and I was just listening to all music you know,

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Speaker 1: only built for Cuban links. You know, that's one of

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Speaker 1: the records that changed my life. You know, it was

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Speaker 1: what what Ray Kwon and ghost Face was saying, it's

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Speaker 1: the same thing Bob Molly was saying, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's social conscious music. Just in their dialect from Staton.

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Speaker 1: Allen Nas was saying the same thing just in his

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Speaker 1: they were thinkers, critical thinkers, and they were giving you

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Speaker 1: the landscape of you know, uh, inner city living, Priega

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Speaker 1: too before you were and all yeah, yeah, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: wanting to chat to getting into hip hop because you know,

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Speaker 1: Pick on me? All right, you don't want to pick

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Speaker 1: like all the stuff. Now as we're saying it's high,

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I was a reader, critical thinker,

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Speaker 1: about Molly, and he was a critical thinker and he

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Speaker 1: had a message. And so you know, I was there

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Speaker 1: and I had enough and I was like, man, this

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Speaker 1: I was immersed in music, but I made the transition.

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Speaker 1: I was always a poet, you know. But again, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't a rapper, like, I wasn't out there battling. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to ciphers because I was busy trying to survive.

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Speaker 1: I was busy making sure that I stayed alive and

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Speaker 1: trying to you know, divorce myself from that way of life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so how does this buzz start? Right? Because so so

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Speaker 1: I I got shot, you know, I got low because

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Speaker 1: you know, after you get shot, certain things happen and

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Speaker 1: then you gotta get low. And I graduated high school

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Speaker 1: as I promised my mom. And you know, when I

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Speaker 1: for my cousin ron do to go deliver messages because

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Speaker 1: I promised my mom, no like messages, passages um. And

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Speaker 1: that's how I really that was the first text message.

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Speaker 1: That's how I got into back like fully because I

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Speaker 1: believe in a divine architect, intelligent designer. And the sacrifice

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Speaker 1: up the phone and was like, oh, yeah, yeah, we

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00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: got the answer. Yeah, let me actually eat. Did you

422
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: know about how Big is boss? Because that's what ye

423
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: just because he was in Miami, you like, I keep

424
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: you not like I've never to this day, like seeing

425
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: how much like and you was probably just entering the games.

426
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: You probably didn't really understand I was. I couldn't go

427
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: to no meeting and meet with no executive. What what

428
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: I'm saying? You heard, you know, I think and asking

429
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: me about it, and I'm like, what is this guy?

430
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: You know? I remember I always wanted to know how

431
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: you started. I had almost lost my life. Yeah, I

432
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: told you I got shot. That's when I try to

433
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: divorce myself from that way of life in the name

434
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: of my mom. You know, a single mother, you know,

435
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: she's battling depression because you know she's gonna lose her

436
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: only son to the streets. And I think that was

437
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: a blessing, you know, that was that was God's way

438
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: of you know, patting me on the back and tell

439
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: me keep going. And obviously, as you can see now,

440
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: I always had a bigger purpose because right now, you know, um,

441
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: everything that I wanted to do as far as Bob Marley,

442
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing that in my own way from beliefs because

443
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm leading the world from Belize. Uh. You know,

444
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: the way I treat my people, the way I try

445
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: to uplift my people, the way I advocate for all people,

446
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: for equality, for you know, education, for entrepreneurship, for women's rights,

447
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: for healthcare, for housing, for land. Um. I used to

448
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: rap about the establishment and the powers that be, and

449
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: now I'm the the strongest voice in the House of

450
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: Representatives in Belize. And remember I have a global following,

451
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: so I might not. You know, people always ask me

452
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: how do I come up with my speeches, and I'm like,

453
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: there's no different than how it came up with my raps,

454
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: because my raps were not driven by a desire to

455
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: be famous. My raps was just a conversation. I was

456
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: just having a conversation. And I learned to do that

457
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: from Bob Marley from Ray and Ghosts from Naas from Jay.

458
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, those were the real conversationalist big they were

459
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: having a conversation. They were talking to you, you know,

460
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: Dre and Snoop tupop conversations. You know, Wu Tang conversation.

461
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, right, because when you first

462
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: came out, it was no secret they was comparing you

463
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: the big Now what's that because of your voice tone?

464
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: Or what's that? What they're trying to make you feel?

465
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: The big shoes? No, no, no, I think you know,

466
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: I have a barre toone, but you know it's it's

467
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: been twenty three years and I still have the same bartone.

468
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: And I think whenever a new artist, you know, um arrives,

469
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: people have to you know, it's like people been trying

470
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: to find another Michael Jordan's the NBA forever until you

471
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: got to realize that. You know, Lebron is just the

472
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: first Lebron. That's never gonna be the mic, you know,

473
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, it's the first step. You know, Kevin Durant

474
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: is the first Kobe as well, Kevin, you know Kobe

475
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: drinking Kobe, great guy. I supposed to wrap supposed to

476
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: write a song for him on one of his albums.

477
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: So did that bother you that that comparison. No, because

478
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: I knew who I was. I knew I was a

479
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: guy from the street. You know, I gotta say, I

480
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: gotta give recognition to my guy, noigil, No, you know

481
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: not of course, of course yea um. And he used

482
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: to always come in the student like listen, forget what

483
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: they're talking about. You know who you are, you from Brooklyn,

484
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: putting that work. Just have your conversation. They're gonna see that,

485
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, Shina shine, you know, just talk that talk,

486
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: you know. And and of course you know, it takes

487
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: a while as a new artist to fill yourself around

488
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: the studio and you know, to to find your footing.

489
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: But you know, the comparisons drove me. That's what drove

490
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: me to to to be great, to have my own

491
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: greatness because because I didn't want to be Mike, I

492
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to be Big. I wanted to be Shane.

493
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: Because the funny thing is we had Mike Geronimo sit

494
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: here right, and my Geronimo his whole career was compared

495
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: to Naas so in his I don't remember that, yeah,

496
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: came out, but I'm glad you you brought NUS. I

497
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: love nas. That's my guy. He's a great guy, great

498
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: inspiration always you know when I was when I was incarcerated,

499
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: always reached out to me. You know if I ever

500
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: needed anything. Now that I've ever asked anybody for anything,

501
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: but you know, he was always there post incarceration, always

502
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: extended the hand to me. Great guy. Um they compared

503
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: now it's the rock can. Yeah. But what I'm saying

504
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: is this, you know what I'm just saying that that's

505
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: but He's the point I'm trying to make was Mike

506
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Geronimo has said to us. He said he didn't like

507
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: like it made him. That's not like you see how

508
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: you just said you embraced it. No, No, what I

509
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: didn't say. I embraced that. I said it drove me.

510
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: It drove me. It's not a matter if I didn't

511
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: like it. It's just a matter of you know, I

512
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: gotta be great, and you know, sooner or later people

513
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna appreciate my greatness and it's up to me to

514
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: make great music. That's a million trillion percent shine And

515
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: if you listen to the Shot album, every flow is mine,

516
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: Every flow is different. There's no big flow, there's no

517
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: pop flow, there's nobody flow. If you go back and

518
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: study my first album, and on every song, I have

519
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: a different flow. I switched flows every four balls, right.

520
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: But that was a part of the drive, you know,

521
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: to be a master you know, words Smith, a master musician.

522
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I definitely gotta thank Puff for that

523
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: because that's what he was about making great music. And

524
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: so it was great to have somebody like him to

525
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: be like, man, that's trash. We put that out, you know,

526
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: that's how it would It wouldn't be. He wouldn't off

527
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: and I don't even want to hear that, you know,

528
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: like like records would leave that I was and he'd

529
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: be like, what are you doing? This is not it?

530
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: This is not you know, greatest rapper. They think they

531
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: want you to be the greatest rapper. Yeah, so you know,

532
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: but when I when I did get the record, you know,

533
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: I never forget the record. You know, he gave me

534
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: the beat two bad Boys, Bad Boys, because you know,

535
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: we we we we skipped the whole a whole um,

536
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: a whole journey of so when I got signed, I

537
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: think the comparisons came more from negative energy in the

538
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: sense of I got there and I forgot why I

539
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: was there. Remember, I started by saying that Bob Marley

540
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: was my greatest expir and rain, Ghosts and nas. You know,

541
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: just that critical thinking, you know that, you know, analysis

542
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: of our circumstances and how we can forge our way

543
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: out of it. He's saying, when you got back to

544
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: bad but when I but when I signed and I

545
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: got you know those ms, it was about the six

546
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: hundred and you you lost this. It was about the

547
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: four Excuse me, it was about the four point six

548
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: making sure it's not a four point because you know

549
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: it's a big difference. It was you know, it was

550
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: about it was about it was but you know, Jay

551
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: was a hustler, That's what That's what he did. You know,

552
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: I'm not Jay, you know, I'm I'm I'm Bob. I'm

553
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: not I'm Ghosts. You know, like I'm here, you know,

554
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: to lift my people up. But but but but you know,

555
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm from Brooklyn. I'm a young kid. I never had nothing.

556
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: You know, Mom's four people's houses immigrant So when I

557
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: got it, you gotta go up, you know. Um. And

558
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: so I got distracted because it's nothing wrong with having

559
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: it it's all about balance, you know. Um, but what

560
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: are you here for? And and I was there to

561
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: make great music. I was not there to just drive

562
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: around in the six Yah. I let that make you

563
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: and that's what happened. So he gives you this beat, right,

564
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: So but hold on that that that year is important

565
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: because I think I think that's that's where the negative

566
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: energy came from. Because I wasn't spending the time focusing

567
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: on my craft and honing my craft and developing my

568
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: skill set and becoming what I was destined to become.

569
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: I was, you know, chasing skirts, chasing those arm be

570
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: deva superstars and and you know, for lack of a

571
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: better word, it's definitely a lack of a better word,

572
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: look ahead games. The second one, sos J said, that's

573
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: just the best hold on shot because I'm gonna chine

574
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: for champagne, And joining was the champagne? What color from hell?

575
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: We didn't even get to the We gonna do that

576
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: for shots, don't do that for shots. This faces I get,

577
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: I get like glimpses of the greatness that you do.

578
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: But I'm so busy right now. We got your back,

579
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: we got I don't even know the so what you

580
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: with you one, this is black own champagne. But when

581
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: you think, I said, Um, I'm gonna go with the

582
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: goal because you know you gotta go. You guys go

583
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: to go. Let's go with can we get a cup? Okay?

584
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: Because you know the black and gold is important because

585
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, my my grandmother was, um, what's what you

586
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: call a Gary Okay, that's an African set of people

587
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: that have been persecuted for hundreds of years. Um. And

588
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: they went from St. Vincent. They fought against the French,

589
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: they fought against the English or the black and gold

590
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: the exile. And but this is the color of their

591
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: flat black and gold and and and this month is

592
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: their month. And believes we celebrate Garrett from the settlement day.

593
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: And my grandmother was from Honduras. She was born in Honduras,

594
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: but because of racism, she hid the fact that she

595
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: was a Garret Funa until she until she was about

596
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: to die. Um. Yeah, So it's very important colors to me.

597
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: Black definitely also black kings to us. I just Puerto

598
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: Rican man. You know when I when I when I

599
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: when I when I was, when I spent my time,

600
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, traveling through those correctional facilities. I received love

601
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: from from everyone. Yeah, that's that's one from from your bloods,

602
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: from Christ. That's one thing. Everybody loved me. Your journey

603
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: um to the other side and we'll get there. But

604
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: I remember a lot of people who was in there

605
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: with you and just will always tell me how honorable

606
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: dude you are and a man of your words. And

607
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: it's like I knew that from you from the streets.

608
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: But you have a story that, um, you could be

609
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: bitter man like, come on, let me find like you know,

610
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, like we said earlier,

611
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: your child is actually kind of defending your boss. It

612
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: was absolutely defending. So in any other world, not just

613
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: my boss, my brother, your brother. So in any other

614
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: world when you do that, you defend your brother who

615
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: is your boss, you actually get rewarded for that. There's

616
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: no downfall to that when it's a real world. But

617
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: this is the industry. This you had to quickly learn

618
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: that because you, like you really had to go from

619
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: from zero r real quick. You know, you know what

620
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: happened with with with didn he with brother love. I

621
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: don't really blame that on him now as much as

622
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: I did then because I did go through a stage

623
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: of bitterness human. Um. But in retrospect, you know, I

624
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: blame it more on the lawyers that we're advising him

625
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: to separate the case than him, because his lawyers were there,

626
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: excuse me to secure a not guilty verdict by any means.

627
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: He's a corporation, hundred million dollar corporation, and you know

628
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: they look at me as the enemy. Now you know,

629
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: this is this, this is how many years ago? This

630
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: is twenty some years So Puff is still young relative,

631
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: so he's he's he's much younger than and you know,

632
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: it's a lot of pressure. You know, he's about to

633
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: lose everything. I'm about to lose everything. I'm from that though, right,

634
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, did he is a musician, you know, he's

635
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: a great musician, great executive, you know, great entertainer. But

636
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't from that, so his response shouldn't be expected

637
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: to be my response. And then when your lawyers and

638
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: maybe other people are misleading you and misguiding you, Um,

639
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: I think that's how everything you know fell apart. And

640
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: he said that to me, he said, you know, man,

641
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry, man, you know I should have

642
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: never listened to those lawyers. And you know, I forgave him, um,

643
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: but you know it was traumatic, so I would forgive

644
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: him and then you know, you might hear me a

645
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: few months later, you know, going in on him. Um.

646
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: But again that was that was that was that was

647
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: that was that was that was. That was over a

648
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: decade ago, um. And I was in a different space then,

649
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: and you know today, you know I'm all about you know,

650
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: how I'm gonna impact the world, building relationships and forgiveness

651
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: as a part of that. I can't carry twenty three

652
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: years ago with me in a negative way. I carried

653
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: twenty three years ago with me all the good from

654
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: twenty three years bad. I take the wisdom out of it,

655
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: I take the lessons out of it, and I use

656
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: it for the next twenty three years. How I'm gonna

657
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: master this chess board. That's hard, that's all. You know

658
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: what I always say. I always say, forgiveness is for you,

659
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: like forgiveness is not for them. Like whether I forget

660
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: them or not, forgiveness makes me a better person. That's

661
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: that's for me. So it's like with you know what Diddy,

662
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: when I when did? He has supported me, He has

663
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: been one of my biggest supporters. Him Fat joke. It

664
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: was are my two guys. Like I said, Nas always

665
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: reaches out when to see you in jail, see me

666
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: in jail. I don't know. I don't know if you

667
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: came to Belieze. I can't forget Buster rhymes, Buster rhymes

668
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: my brother. You know, I was just with him, him

669
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: and Khalid Kalid is my guy to another supporter for

670
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: over a decade, you know. But Buster came to Beliefe

671
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: when I got out, Um, you know, embraced me to

672
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: sign you to though, right, I think I think that

673
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: was he was just a brother, you know, gave me

674
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: an automa when I when I you know, when he

675
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: came to Belieze and just been my brother through and

676
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: through uh and and Joe my brother. But did he

677
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: in in in the most recent years after we reconcile,

678
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, once I told him what I was doing,

679
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: and Beliefs became one of my biggest supporters, you know,

680
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: um brothers telling people through his platforms what I was doing,

681
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, financing what I was doing, um

682
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: and just giving me that moral support and that acknowledgement.

683
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: And then recently they had tried to after I got

684
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: elected elected past legislation to disqualify, disqualify me from the

685
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: House of Representatives, to say that anybody that got convicted

686
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: of a crime can't be in the House of Representatives

687
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: in another country. And and you know did he lost

688
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: it when he heard that, and he got the revote people,

689
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: he got the publicist, he got everybody. He started talking

690
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: to his legislative friends and was like, you know, we

691
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: can't let this happen. You know, this young man changed

692
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: his life. He's doing great things for his people, and

693
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, he's Black excellence, and I can't let this

694
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: happen to my brother. And you know, so he was

695
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: very instrumental. And you know when I came here and

696
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: meeting with the legislators in Georgia, you know, recognition highest

697
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: regards to uh Rep. Erica Thomas and entire at Georgia

698
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: Entertainment Caucus. And you know Corey Jacobs as well. You know,

699
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: so so puff, you know, to me, totally redeem himself.

700
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: And it's my brother and I love him, and so

701
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't need to talk to him every day. I

702
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: don't need a million dollars from him. You know, the

703
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: love and the support in the time of critical need

704
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: is worth more than a trillion dollars. And that's important

705
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: because when you expect money from people, when you expect

706
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: material things from people, you will always be disappointed. What's

707
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: it called and entitled it? I don't know if it's

708
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: entitenment in my case, because you know, after ten years,

709
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, uh that that's debatable. But what I'm saying

710
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: is I prefer to say expectations. Don't expect anything from anyone,

711
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: and appreciate everything that you know God sends your way,

712
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: and take it for what it is. You know, but

713
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: just hold yourself accountable, navigate your path and your journey,

714
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: and life would be much less complicated. So when there

715
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: are no expectations, whatever someone does contributes, it's just just

716
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: enhances extra. But you know, I got what I got

717
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: going going, But that's still my brother. So my love

718
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have a price tag on it. So I don't

719
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: love you because you know you sent them may back

720
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: to police for me. I don't love you because you

721
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: know you gave me a million dollars for my campaign.

722
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: I love you because you're my brother, and if we

723
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: talk every day, if we don't, you're my brother and

724
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: I love him. That's why. So um, let's get into

725
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: it that that first record, the barings and leading, and

726
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: we need more. We need more black love, more Brown love.

727
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: A lot of murders going on. I know, New York

728
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: City is ridiculous. When I saw Bobby murder at at

729
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: Jay's event, at Holds event at the fort forty, you know,

730
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: I hugged him, you know, Meek Mill, that's my little

731
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: brother too. He's another little brother that has been their

732
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: champion in the Shine Legacy for years, you know. But

733
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: I held you know, Bobby, and I told him, I said, man, listen,

734
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: you have to learn from me. You know. We were

735
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: going back and forth. I think he did six I

736
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: did tend So I said, listen, I'm the champion, you know,

737
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: right and and but I don't want you to have

738
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: the belt. I don't want you to go through what

739
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: I went through. I want you to be a messenger.

740
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: I want you to lift these kids up. I want

741
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: you to save these kids lives. I don't want anybody

742
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: else in Brooklyn or anywhere else in New York or

743
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: Los Angeles or anywhere around the world or United States

744
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: to go through what we went through. We gotta stop

745
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: the psycho. So so Black Loves and pol We gotta

746
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: stop killing each other. They can't just be when you

747
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: know they're kneeling on George Floyd's net, you know, we

748
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: get up in arms. But then when we're blowing each

749
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: other's brains out, nobody says anything. You know, So So

750
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Black Love is in portant in brown love, and you

751
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: know in the city love. So so Pop brings you

752
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: this record, he brings you to beat so So ninety

753
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: eight was spent being reckless. That's how I got the

754
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: name Alpoka, you know, parking on the sidebak, you know,

755
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: getting out the cards, just leaving running right, um you r.

756
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: I gotta yeah, I gotta. I gotta definitely acknowledge Mike.

757
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: You know, he's one of the first you know, uh

758
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: icons that that I've ever met and hung out with.

759
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta acknowledge you know Jackie Road Auntie Jackie, Yeah, yeah,

760
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: and that's my aunt. Um So, I spent the whole

761
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: ninety eight, you know, chasing all these on be superstars

762
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: who sold millions and millions of records and rating female

763
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: super the stars who sold millions of records. But I

764
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: didn't sell any records and I wasn't making any hip

765
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: records and I never forget. You know, at the M

766
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: I had an argument um with this on Be Diva,

767
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: you know who sold millions of millions and millions of records.

768
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: You know, we we were you know, we had a thing,

769
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: you know, um situation entanglement. You know who got to

770
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: remember the house of representing this. But listen, anybody listen,

771
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: so so listen, so so so I was, you know,

772
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: I was seeing another rap female superstar, and so they

773
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: got into an argument, and so to be Superstar you know,

774
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: called me and cursed me out. And she was like,

775
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you ain't nothing. You know, you

776
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: think you something, but you nothing. You ain't sell you

777
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: ain't nah, she wasn't even born. Okay, I'm fishing. Okay,

778
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: I bugged. Don't get my life to that. She's probably yeah,

779
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: yeah that's my home girl. Okay, that's my home girl.

780
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: Jimmy Choo, Yeah yeah I got that record. Notes said anyway,

781
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: this um this this on B Diva Superstar told me listen, basically,

782
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: you're a bum. You yeah, you ain't selling no records.

783
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: She talking that talk. She don't care about the six hundred,

784
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: She don't care about the platinum rolling and the goalsh.

785
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: She don't care about the publishing because she's sold like

786
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, ten million records, number one singles, number one

787
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: album for hundred weeks on on on pop charts. Um

788
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: so she's like, you're a bump. You ain't sell one record.

789
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: So when you sell a record, then you called me

790
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: back since you want to stunt on me and had

791
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: me looking crazy out here with these motive right yeah, yeah,

792
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: no no, but again I was driven by that. But

793
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: that's about Marry are No. I was. I was thinking

794
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: that we gotta we gotta get in the middle now

795
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: that I mean, no, no, no, no, Mary's no. Mary

796
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: montev ain't selling type of but Mary. Mary's great. But

797
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: Mary's like you know, that's like big system, you know,

798
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: but like she was before my time. Um but um

799
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: so yeah. So anyway, that was like that was like

800
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: hitting me in the head with a law knocked the

801
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: wind out of me and and it put me back

802
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: in focus because I was like, she's right, you know,

803
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to just be driving around in nice

804
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: cars and you know, have all the Iceberg sweats and

805
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: you know, have all the drip. I want to make

806
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: hit records. I want to be on top of the

807
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: charts for a hundred weeks like her, but not just

808
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: make hit records. Remember, I came here to impact the world.

809
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: So you know, I had a plan where I was gonna,

810
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, become a little bit more conscious in my music,

811
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, send different messages to lift my people. See

812
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: if I could do a hybrid of that, you know,

813
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: nas Co Strayed by Molly type thing. You know, nas

814
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: ended up doing an album with David Martin. So I was,

815
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: I was on the path and it was like, so

816
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: what am I doing? So that Knoctor went out of

817
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: me and got me back on my path. Um, both

818
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: from an ego perspective and from spiritual perspective, because I

819
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: was like, you know, she's talking crazy. I got to

820
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: show her that, you know, I could put out um.

821
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: And so that's when I realized that the secret to

822
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: success was did it. But the whole ninety eight I

823
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: was dating his girlfriends. I can't tell you who, but

824
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: that's how crazy I was. It sounds like a recipe

825
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: for disasters for your career. That is what I'm trying

826
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: to sell you. He was out there the place so um.

827
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: So that's how off track I was that I was

828
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: a worker, you know, trying to take the CEOs, you know, property,

829
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: and well I shouldn't refer to women's property, but you

830
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: know the CEOs, you know entanglements because I was totally distracted,

831
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: totally you know, young, dumb and full of come and

832
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: so I had to get back on track. So he

833
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: wasn't even messing with messing with me, okay, because he

834
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: knew what you would. He can't be mad at that.

835
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: He was just like, man, you right. That's when I

836
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: did the UM. I don't know if you listen to

837
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: Mass album where I did the song start from Scratch,

838
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: And initially that was if I can start from scratch

839
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: out the sign that f jam, hustle russell. A couple

840
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: of a million events changed it to you know, uh,

841
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: now what am I saying Puff's the best man? Because

842
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: me and Puff we were hugged up for that. You know,

843
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: we got into the little rest of the match over that.

844
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no. Um. So that's where we

845
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: were at. So ninety nine came about and I was like, man, listen,

846
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: Puff is the holy Grail. I'm not here to look cute.

847
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm here to sell records. I'm here to change the world.

848
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: And you know that's when DMX was destroying things. You

849
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: were destroying things. J Hard knocked life destroying things, and

850
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: you know bad Boy was you know, it was in

851
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: our turn. You know, we was in the bad um

852
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: and so I knew Puff was still the Holy Grail

853
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: because that's our life, is life in cycles. So that

854
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: entire ninety nine, you know, I parked the six hundred,

855
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: parked the Rover, and I just went everywhere. Puff went.

856
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: Hopped in the back of the Silver Navigator, and I

857
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: was puff Shadow wherever he went on went, whatever he did,

858
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: I did all he brings you this beat, all in

859
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: order to get the Holy Grail. So we're in Hampton's August.

860
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: August is a special month for me. But before this,

861
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: we hit the I wouldn't say it was a home run,

862
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: but it was a base hit and drove two people home.

863
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: So we scored some runs. We're sitting at home, sitting

864
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: at home, remix, and you gotta remember was that it

865
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: was that was total total. You gotta remember, the pressure

866
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: is on everybody's like, who's this guy? He's not all that.

867
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have got a couple of million dollars and

868
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: it's not a video for this, No, no, no. But

869
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is the record hit. You know what

870
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: I need to do. Let it be understood. Bad boy

871
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: on this Brooklyn the a t They pumped this, that

872
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: was it right, Everybody was like okay. And Puff is

873
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: the ultimate hater, which is great. He's an ultimate hayter

874
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: because he's hating for the benefit of the good. So

875
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: like he's like no, no, no, no. So when he

876
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: says yes when sitting at home makes it out, it's

877
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: because he thought it was great and and he's never wrong.

878
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: Um So in August, we're in the Hamptons, he gives

879
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: me the beat boom boom easy lp bo boom boo

880
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: boom boo boom bo boom boom boom boom, and again,

881
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: the musical genius that he is, he says, this is it.

882
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: Right here, I'm telling you, this is it. If you

883
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: could do to this what you did to send that

884
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: home and take it up a notch, you're gone right

885
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: because you know he used to tell him me, listen,

886
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: you look better than ll You could wrap like Big

887
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: and Nas and Jay you you know you you in

888
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: the streets. You're crazy like Tupac you got it all.

889
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: You're the total package. If you put all that together

890
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: and you put that on this Bad Boys, it wasn't

891
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: called Bad Boys that put put that on this record.

892
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: You're gone. And then who's the guy that goes he's

893
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: asking you, he's asking me that, And you knew exactly

894
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: that one because that's the less that's an icon in

895
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: my community. Right. So he saw again I give credit

896
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: with credit is due. He quarterback that entire play. All

897
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: I had to do was run, make it right and

898
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: and died for the ball um. And that's how Bad

899
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: Boys came about. You know, I went in, I knocked

900
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: it out and the second verse was for Pup. I

901
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: heard you wrote that fair that was for him. Things

902
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: draggon on the floor, you know. But when Club New

903
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: York happened, you know that adjusted the plan. But August

904
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: nineteen is when I wrote Bad Boys. Yeah at um

905
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: hit Yeah. Well in June, you know, I gotta recognize

906
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: phonk Master Flex as well. You know a job in

907
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: Bombay Condors too. They was on it. But Flex, you

908
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: know another guy that doesn't you know, he's not really

909
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: on you unless he's on you. You know, you see

910
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: him arguing with a lot of people some icons, you know.

911
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: So he's not one to really just you know, uh,

912
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: play music just to play music. He gotta love he

913
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: gotta love it. Yeah, he gotta love it and um

914
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: and he loved that record. And that record went. That

915
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: was it, Like there was no there was no you know,

916
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: is it gonna go? And went Flex played it like

917
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: a hundred times and that was it. What made you

918
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: use him again was the other record that was half year.

919
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: You know, when they sent the record to Barrington, they

920
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: because Usha was supposed to be on Bonnie and Shine,

921
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: but you got on. She was supposed to be on

922
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: Bonnie and Shane and that's where Baronton levies On was

923
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: supposed to be on Bonnie and Shoe already wrote the

924
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: chorus and everything. Wow, but they put one over on me.

925
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: But when it came back it was great. You know,

926
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: who could I can't argue with my childhood hero, you know,

927
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: but he was the confessors a fire to that happened,

928
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: you know. That was Mark Fitz and Jamaine Duprix two

929
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: thousand and I want to grant me for that. It

930
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: makes a noise for that. Apsn't have that supples that

931
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: have that in your intro to Gray that went on, Yes,

932
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: holy holy boy a right, so I was My next

933
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: question was Bonny and Shot. But I feel like we

934
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: already established that, right, Alright, cool, don't forget. I can't

935
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: believe I was nominated for Brandy for that too. Well,

936
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: Carl Thomas Thomas, Okay, that's a big record. Okay, we're

937
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna come back to that. But look the song more

938
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: or Less. That's Foxy Brown on there, right, that's produced

939
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: by Kanye West, who was just on your show. Check

940
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: know that did not know that young Kanye West. I

941
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: called John Man super early I think about it, sounds

942
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: like a West I was there vision And wait a minute,

943
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: because this is why this is two thousand No, this

944
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: is more or less came out well, you know what,

945
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: More or Less came out of two thousand and four.

946
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: But I recorded those records in two thousand one. I

947
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: was in with Trout. I recorded The Godfather Buried the

948
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: live album, all of it while I was on Because

949
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: this is one because this is when I this is

950
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: when I reached the holy grail. Like after my first album,

951
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: I've breached to a level where I didn't write raps anymore.

952
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: So literally, I was going from court to the studio

953
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: and I would just listen to the beat and I

954
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: just go in the studio and just talk about my life.

955
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: But why the record you had that you did on

956
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: the phone for the record for the record, and you know,

957
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: I want to take this opportunity to um. You know,

958
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: we should toast the fifty cents. You know, I really

959
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: appreciate all of his success. Yeah, I appreciate all the

960
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: success that he's having as as a as an African American.

961
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: You know, the longevity that he's having, the transition that

962
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: he's made, you know, from you know, a Grammy Award

963
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: winning you know, multi platinum selling grapher, you know, to

964
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: a film producer. You know, he's an entertainment mogul um.

965
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: You know, he's into the spirits as well. Just everything

966
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: that he's doing. You know, I celebrate his success. And

967
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, he tried to sign me when I was

968
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: away that record about you say that he tried to

969
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: sign me, and you know, I was just in a

970
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: different place. I was in a place you know, I

971
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: was you know, I was better. I was upset. You know,

972
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: I had a lot of a lot of demons that

973
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: I was fighting, and you know, I was just in

974
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: a different space. I'm not in that space anymore. I'm

975
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: in the space of healing and I'm in the space

976
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: of celebrating people. You know, I'm not getting into other

977
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: people's issues because that wasn't my issue. What was that

978
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: because he was friends were Yeah, it was my brother,

979
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, I came to see you or something like that. No,

980
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: he's my brother. IRV was a great guy. But what

981
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying is because Earth came to see you opposed.

982
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't just because Earth came to see me. It's

983
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: just you know, you know, certain things meant meant something

984
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: to me, and I don't want to go down that

985
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: route because again, that's not my issue, and you know,

986
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't have the details and it's just not my

987
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: my thing. I was just going with my brother and

988
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: is still my brother. But it's time to grow up.

989
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: It's time involved. And I want to see all my

990
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: brothers together getting money, you know, being productive and just

991
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: having great lives. And we should live until we're seventy

992
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: and eighty like the rock and roll guys, and you know,

993
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: just have success. So so take me some noise for that.

994
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: But that but that I need to know, but that

995
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: he's not ready to move me into the ruck. But

996
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: that was jail. Yeah, it was because alright, because because

997
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: I was thinking it could have been recorded. He was

998
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: in jail, all recorded over the phone prior to you

999
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: being in jail. But that's the I think that's one

1000
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: of the reasons I I failed when I came out,

1001
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: when I was released from incarceration. It's because it was

1002
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: too much negative energy. You know. I was arguing with Puff,

1003
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: I was arguing with fifty. I was arguing with Ross.

1004
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: You know Chears, the Rick Ross as well. He's doing

1005
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: great things, entrepreneur mogul. He's buying a house just so

1006
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: you could drive by. I hope that he rented out

1007
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: for airbnb so we could generate some revenues. Dominate that

1008
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: to please. But um, you know, Chears, the all you know,

1009
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: the rat mogul's you know that are enjoying success. That's

1010
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: what I want. You know. Then I was selfish. I

1011
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: was thinking about me, and I was repeating something that

1012
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: was so destructive for hip hop. I think that's why

1013
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: God took my voice, you know, because when I came out,

1014
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: I lost my voice. I didn't have my baritone and

1015
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: and it was a disaster. And cald is my God,

1016
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: love him so much. He wasn't flying private planes. Then

1017
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: he was ready to take a boat to believe for

1018
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: me to do that record. But I wasn't ready and

1019
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready because again I lost focused. Like I

1020
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: was in I was in ectional facilities, you know, going

1021
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: through a journey, not to come out and be tupap.

1022
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't write rhymes, I just create, Just give me

1023
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: the beat. So I had, I had albums in my head.

1024
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: But the point I'm making is, you know, Um, I

1025
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: came out with the wrong energy, that destructive energy, and

1026
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: that had been very devastating for hip hop. We lost

1027
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: two of our icons and even more people because of

1028
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: that destructive energy. So for me to be a leader again,

1029
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: to to want to be about Molly and after ten

1030
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: years of going through all that, even if it's just entertainment,

1031
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: even if it's just me speaking my truth and giving

1032
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: my opinions on you know the rules are wrapping the

1033
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: rules of the street. That's not the energy that we

1034
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: ever need again because I'm too rare, and when you're

1035
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: too rare, things end up becoming very destructive and devastated.

1036
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: So Um, so yeah, the energy just wasn't right. And

1037
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: the energy that I have now, it's the right energy,

1038
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: celebrating everyone and you know, wishing everybody the best, and

1039
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: everything is about beliefs. So when you came home and

1040
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: what did you feel pressure to do that college verse?

1041
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: Did you regret it? Like? No, I didn't feel pressure.

1042
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: I just I just explained to you. My problem is

1043
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: my energy was not right. Yeah, if your energy is negative,

1044
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,959
Speaker 1: you're focused on the wrong thing. Why am I thinking

1045
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: about brick Ross? Why am I thinking about Ditty? Why

1046
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: am I thinking about fifty? I'm supposed to be thinking

1047
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: about myself. I'm supposed to be thinking about believes I'm

1048
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: supposed to be thinking about how I'm gonna make hits.

1049
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: That was just the wrong energy. So it's like again

1050
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: instead of the on be diva, God slap me upside

1051
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: my head, took my voice away so that I could,

1052
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, get focused what was important. But when you

1053
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: came home, you didn't go straight to belives right. You

1054
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: know what happened is when you know it was like

1055
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: in Paris, I was on I was in um my guy,

1056
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: Stephen Victor just hit me. Congratulations Stephen Victor. He's Um,

1057
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: he's the he's Spotify. I guy. No, no, no, no, no,

1058
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: Stephen Victor, come on, don't do that. Now, he got

1059
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: got money in Spotify. Stephen Victor probably got money and

1060
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: everything I'm talking about. Stephen Victor pushed the tea. Yeah yeah,

1061
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm talking about he got something. So he got money

1062
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: and he had money from you, so much money he

1063
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: got wet No, no, but I wanted to. I wanted

1064
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: to celebrate, uh, my young brother. He's a he's been

1065
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: a friend of mine since, you know, over thirteen years,

1066
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: and so I'm so proud of him. He got se

1067
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: then we got he's he's on his way over here.

1068
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: That's my part. We got the box. We don't know okay,

1069
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: and we got it, but we got it. We got

1070
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: I gotta also celebrate my other younger brother, uh Steve, oh,

1071
01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: Stephen Carllers. He just he just became president a Warner Bros.

1072
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 1: That's my other little brother. Okay, my insig, Yes that sound.

1073
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: We don't all show us about giving people their flowers

1074
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: while they're alive. So many people wouldn't show you love

1075
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: after we we we didn't make up that statement, but

1076
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: we made it famous in hip hop. So we literally

1077
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: want to give your flowers while you here to your face,

1078
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: face to face matter man, thanks to you what you

1079
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: need in the community. Hip hop You know what I mean,

1080
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: standing tall for the streets, standing tall for every day.

1081
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: We respect you, we love you, we appreciate you. Shout

1082
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: out what the flower? So then I gotta I gotta

1083
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: give you my yeah because now you know so this

1084
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: is uh, this is nineteen eighty one. Uh excuse me,

1085
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: belies Rum from one of the institutions of Rum, uh

1086
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: called Travelers. This one. Yeah, this is nineteen eighty one.

1087
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: This is a Travelers. They actually have a museum Beliefs

1088
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: if you're ever visited Beliefs, which I know everybody out

1089
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: there watching. We got to go to police. You gotta

1090
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: break that over because we're gonna drink. Okay, okay, alright, cool,

1091
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: I was trying to save it. Take it home for me.

1092
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: I've got for you this work. You think my naturally

1093
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: drinking instinct like like, hold on, they can take this home.

1094
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: Does he know we're ready to go to police and

1095
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: do this interview with we were we were ready to

1096
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: know before I didn't you did tell me that we

1097
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: got you got your American ship back I don't selling back.

1098
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: I said your ship. No, no, no, how did you

1099
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: get that back? How did you government? Okay, yeah, I've

1100
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: got a next into the house. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

1101
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: you can let the Domerican to every same thing. So,

1102
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: oh you know why we're so we're so uneducated, so

1103
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: that I think it was like this. Yeah, it was

1104
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: a little definitely that silly wouldn't fix expressive ship right there.

1105
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: So we watch you out with that bottle. That's that's

1106
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: expensive ship right there there you go. Okay, all right,

1107
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: we got I think you gotta take off. He just

1108
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: used to open the package. It's a cocaine forget about

1109
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: Dominican friend actually looking expencive. Okay, okay, okay, I don't

1110
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: know you do you do right? No problem, no problem. Listen,

1111
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: we got and we got the Caribbean the Caribbean rum too. Okay,

1112
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: this the um. This is the ten year old. I'm

1113
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: gonna sign this before I leave. Yeah, please, I'm gonna

1114
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: put you that right in my ball, right put in

1115
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: check this out. This is a game that we played

1116
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: on the show, is called quick Time of Slim. Right.

1117
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: The quick Time of Slam is very simple. You pick

1118
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: one or the other, if you pick both, or if

1119
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: you pick neither. Did you take a shot. But let's

1120
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see how you do out. Alright, cool,

1121
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: you're ready, got the shots ready? Alright? Cool? Let me

1122
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: get them pull it off. You can tell your shot

1123
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 1: in the Caribbean. Let me try. We go in and

1124
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: but we're gonna wait. Don't take a shot yet. What

1125
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying too fast? One night outside. Listen, listen, this

1126
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: this is this is all in the belief they couldn't

1127
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: pay for this second market. You know you got shot,

1128
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: you got hit, shot out bring me so I'm gonna

1129
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: do one in one okay, yeah, yeah, I'll do I

1130
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: did that one, right, I did that one. Just what

1131
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do one shot? One? One shot? Okay,

1132
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: all right, I got eighty one. It's close to my

1133
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: birthday was ninety one. Nineteen eighty one is when believes

1134
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: got us independence? Oh? Wow? That that recent? Yeah, forty

1135
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: years old. Today's independence from from Great Britain. Wow, that's great.

1136
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: And speaking speaking with Great Britain. Along with the Deputy

1137
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: Prime Minister of the Leaves Cordel hide Um, we are

1138
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: taking the United Kingdom to court for reparations, because reparations

1139
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: are due. I said that was the first album. Look

1140
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: at United Kingdom next you know, well, you know the

1141
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: colonialism is a is a curse to humanity, so they

1142
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: gotta pay. But let me okay, let me not digress,

1143
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: all right, So this is this is it. We picked

1144
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: one of the other big both take a shot. I

1145
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: think we need a little bit more than le's get

1146
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more just in case. Yeah, just a

1147
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: little bit, just in case, run DMC or the locks.

1148
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: I take a shot. Okay, that's fair. Though, that's fair.

1149
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: Welly're good, that's very good. We're supposed to drink the

1150
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, yeah, it's up to you. It's

1151
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: pretty much shot however you want. Next time this, I

1152
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: don't know who are you gonna go with? You do

1153
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: the next one? Next time? Okay, this one, I don't

1154
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: know where you go with. I don't know every representatives,

1155
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: So I got to do half a shot. Can't be

1156
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: walking out this. I don't know who gonna go with

1157
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: us or beliee police police. And that was I think

1158
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna think about what makes him take a shot.

1159
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: Now you believe he's actually why later Okay, he's over everything.

1160
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: Of course, now you've been on both. I'm gonna say

1161
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: bad boy, so pop Daddy r us obviously, okay, I

1162
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: Mason Jada Kiss j the Kiss, ready to die on

1163
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: me against the world, ready to die damn easy, let

1164
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: me let me calm down, all right, Cool, he's doing

1165
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: too good man, Hold on, cool, you got you need

1166
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: to get some more Snoop or Buster. Oh man, it's

1167
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: whatever criteria for you. But yeah, that's what I'm said.

1168
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: What's the whatever, whateverever you want, whatever is in your mind.

1169
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: It's a crazy feel like, let's go with myster you know,

1170
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: like you know Snoop is in a different space. It

1171
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: sounds like you're about to stay a shot. I gotta

1172
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: take a shot, take a shot, my brother. So you know,

1173
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: I can't choose anybody. Snoop is like the most famous

1174
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: wrapper up in the world. Snoop American Icon. Everybody anybody

1175
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: knows stoop yea yeah, yeah, both like your grandmother there,

1176
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: you're mixing the shots. Yeah, yeah, this is the name

1177
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: of Belize. That's how that's how you gotta do it.

1178
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to Majuana next. I'm not gonna lie or

1179
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: rum has that Caribbean. Taste to it like you immediately

1180
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: drink rum and then taste the palm tree like you

1181
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: just like you just look at like a ship, you

1182
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like this is the best rum. Yes,

1183
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: it's it's good. Kenjick Lamar J Cole j Cole. All right,

1184
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna be able to answer this. This this,

1185
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: this is easy. This one. Queen Latifa em c Light.

1186
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: You know, I wrote a record. I wrote a record

1187
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: for Queen I mean for em c Light on her

1188
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: her seven Alm with my things, you know. But you know,

1189
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: Queen la teeth is icon. Mc light is an icon.

1190
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: You know, paper thin. I gotta take a shot now,

1191
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: you're going back to this one. This this one, get

1192
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: my chests hot, that's what she looks. Something I love

1193
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: and I saved my chest hairs earlier. I don't know

1194
01:14:54,280 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: if you know, I need to paste myself. Yeo, yeah bad, yes,

1195
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: when you come to believe you all right, so I

1196
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 1: little no problem. I got you all that and that

1197
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: didn't help either. Yeah, it's definitely okay, Scarface on ice

1198
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:23,759
Speaker 1: cube shot, I got you. We're doing before you first.

1199
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: I like how you like mainly how aw I love

1200
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: that I can tell we got the team to stay

1201
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: tasting hip hop. Okay, we gotta take it down, Solot,

1202
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: thank you for being here. Shot and you definitely want

1203
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: you to know that, uh immediately See bump reminds me

1204
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: of Part a WEEKO so much so. Yeah, because you know,

1205
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: I get get dumb o talk about believes before I

1206
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: leave it. Yeah, we got that, We got you belies. Okay,

1207
01:15:52,600 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: Nas or Jay take a shot. That'm gonna do a

1208
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: little one. Yeah if yeah, that's all now they get

1209
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:22,839
Speaker 1: the point. Ah Yeah, Nicky or Cardi deal, Niki, loyalty

1210
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: or respect both, it's always the right answer. Motherfucker's get

1211
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: mad complicated. Yeah, it's both. Sottle, so I don't okay. Ah,

1212
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: Foxy Brown a little cat, Foxy Brown, let me get

1213
01:16:49,560 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: that carib Faith of Monica Faith Shop up a super

1214
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: cat show. I said that too quick. Yeah, I'm gonna

1215
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: go with I'm gonna go with shop with you know,

1216
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: a super cat. You know he was great, But I'm

1217
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: gonna go with shoping man. Nobody got more hits and

1218
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: shot shot up. He's a push your off fat shot. Okay.

1219
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: I was a little confused with that one too. I

1220
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be confused with this. Boold you. Okay,

1221
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: I gotta finish you put up. You pought the hang

1222
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: one in the name of Belice, Belie Belice is weird situation.

1223
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't think I do that right. I need more

1224
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: of this. They sell it out here, No, I got

1225
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: it to you. I'll get a case. That's a good

1226
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: case to you. Rock Camp we want to distribute out here,

1227
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: and beliefs I'm doing. You made the Beliefs Festival all

1228
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: around the United States, and they're gonna be one of

1229
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: the mains. Is really good rock Camp or cam Yeah? Sure,

1230
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: that was your last shot. It was Man, they're gonna

1231
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: Rap City or NTV raps rap City, j Loo Mariah,

1232
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: you almost did a bit with j Low though not

1233
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: really with your right. This is the last one Boys

1234
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: in the Hood or Juice shot shot. Okay, that's cool,

1235
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: that's fair, Yeah, right, okay, But she never asked my

1236
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: asked my question about more or less? More or less?

1237
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: I've always wondered, is that Foxy on the song? But

1238
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: you didn't credit her for being on the song? No,

1239
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 1: it doesn't say feature in Foxy Brown. It's that species

1240
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 1: fox brought on gang Land. I think that was an oversighter.

1241
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can show you it right now. It's

1242
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: calling me right now. Okay, I'm on. UM's not going

1243
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:49,560
Speaker 1: through for songs, but I don't know why that is.

1244
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, now you all the second rapper to have

1245
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: a drop an album. Hello, Princess, listen, I'm on drink

1246
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: Champs right now. Okay, I'm filming, but I'm gonna get

1247
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: your baby alive with the kitchen, with the food and

1248
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: the Barbie camper and everything. Okay, I love you. You

1249
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: gotta be pushing more of this positive energy. It's all. Yeah,

1250
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: it's called our father hood. Yeah, our father hoods Yes.

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Speaker 1: So what damn? What does that just say? Okay, you're

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01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: the second rapper to ever go number one while incarcerated

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01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: in jail. Now, I know that's not something to brag about,

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01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: but think about how many motherfucking rappers ever been to jail.

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01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: It's just certainly an accomplishment to go number one in

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Speaker 1: any circumstances, and I'll be able to support the record.

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01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, going number one, it's going number one, and um, yeah,

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01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate, you know, and that's that's one

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01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: of the reasons why you know, I'm grateful for this

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01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: opportunity to make amends and you know, to um to

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01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: put just positive energy with people who I may have

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01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: contributed a lot of negative energy towards because I was

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01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: very fortunate. Did you know your marketing campaign, you know

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01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: you would like it was fandom just came out. I

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01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: was a CEO. Yeah, listen to Fanom just came That

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01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: was the CEO for you had a rap Fanom. I

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01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: was the CEO for riving Around. You know how dope

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01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:38,719
Speaker 1: that it was? That that was all listen The fandom

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01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: just came out was about four. That was Steve Oh

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01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: to Steve Carlos, Steve Carlins. I thought it was Kevin

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01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: Lives No, no, no, remember maybe the stego was working

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01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: for me. He was. That's what I'm saying. You don't

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01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: understand how great hip hop is. Stephen Victor Junior. It's

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01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: now you know the biggest thing in universal music. Uh.

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01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: Stephen Carlos, president of Want of Music and Young SIDEPP

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01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: was working with you too. Yeah. They had best of

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01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: both worlds, best of both offices. Yeah, it was my

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01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: my sons, But I no know, I'm just saying, like

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01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: my guys, the Brookly jump Out of the area and

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01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: there like you know, this movement. So yeah, that was yeah,

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01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: that was sad and Steve are running around the town.

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01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah in the family where I'm not. But listen,

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01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: it's a difference. God bless me. Um. You know, well,

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01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: only other people who did that was Rockefeller and this

1285
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: is when Rocket Feller was the hottest in the world.

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01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: They used to put the flyers on the on the

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01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: on the e class. Yeah. No, no, no, no, that's

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01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 1: what you had. You had, you ships had the flyers,

1289
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: like I didn't know that. That's a good poe. We're

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01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: not trying to you know, yeah, that's that's a good point.

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01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I didn't realize the difference. You're

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01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: right right, they did have Okay, that wasn't official rat

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01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: that's yeah. You're the first person I've seen a super

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01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: luck to recall because the Buggy opens was nice. You

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01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: had to had the big, big billboard at the Brooklyn Bridge.

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01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: That's before Dumbo. You do what's before k D from

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01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 1: the camp. Listen, I shot a video when you can't damn, damn,

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01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: how do you Wow? That's how I got to the

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01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: House of Representive But listen, no, no, honestly, you know

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01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: that's you got your powers, and the entire point of

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01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: your powers is to use them for good. And you know,

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01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm very, very grateful to be in a position to

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01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: be a global leader. And so you know, hip hop

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01:23:52,160 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: is the most dominant forcing the globe. But unfortunately there's

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01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: a lot of celebrations of destruction. And I'm not judging

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01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 1: my brothers, you know, like like Meet mill that's like,

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01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 1: that's like my my little bro. Like I love him.

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01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: You know. What I'm saying he's doing is um criminal

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01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: justice reform thing, him and Michael Rubin, And you know,

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01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: I just want to see him be the leader. I

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01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: want to see him be Mandela. I want to see

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01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 1: him be Malcolm X because we need that. And what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is, you know, all the gang banging, you know,

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01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: all of you know, just genocide, it has to stop.

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01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It has to come a

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01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: point where you know, we we we have so much power.

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01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: We gotta the chairman, my my brother, how came Jeffreys.

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01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: He's the chairman of the um House of Representative Caucus,

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01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: the Democratic Caucus, not the Black Caucus caucus. We have power.

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01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 1: We have a vice P isn't it Kamala Harris? African

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01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 1: American women? Uncle Joe, you know that meme of little

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01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: baby putting the chain around his neck, that's real, Uncle Joe.

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01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: You know he might have made some mistakes a hundred

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01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: years ago, but I think, you know, I feel his energy.

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01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: He's getting it done. The point I'm making is we

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01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: have to stop relying on other communities and other people,

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01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: and we have to start holding ourselves accountable. What I'm

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: saying so yeah, um Kanye said he called up Carmilla.

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01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: We ain't seen hers since that lection, Harris. Let you

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01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: hear what I'm saying that I mean I discovered. I

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01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't say I discovered, yea, But I appreciate his genius

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01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: way before. And you know I love you, you know, yea.

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01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: I'll never forget I was in Clinton Denner Moraw. You know,

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01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: people don't understand, you know, spending ten years of your

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Speaker 1: life in the correctional facility. That's why I entitled my

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Speaker 1: second album Buried Alive. That's my question. My second album

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01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: is Buried Alive because I was buried alive. That's that's

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Speaker 1: It's only it's only two things. It's only that you

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01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 1: called the album is that Still Buried Alive. There's only

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01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: two things that's worse. It's being in the hospital or

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01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: being incarcerated. You know, being incapacitated in the hospital or

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01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 1: being incarcerated. Um. You know, so being incarcerated was absolutely

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01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: the worst thing. And that's why I called my album,

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Speaker 1: Um God, okay, but it's okay, I hear you know

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01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I was literally I was dead, right,

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01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: but you're alive. But I'm alive because I fought to

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01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: be alive, right, I thought to not be dead, right.

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01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: I was like Michael Jackson and Thriller, you know, doing

1349
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: the whole dance and everything after he rose from the dead.

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01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 1: So there was there was, there was voment, and I

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Speaker 1: would like to address every year you could say no,

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01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: yes that like when you was in jail, like you

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01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: was affiliated with the biggest blogs. I was. I loved everybody.

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01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: I was a leader that I am today. I was

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Speaker 1: a leader. I was in there stopping people from killing

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01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: each other, stopping people from flipping violence against each other.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I did what I had to do

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Speaker 1: to survive. Um, but I was a leader. I took

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01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: care of everybody. I took care of everybody. It didn't

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Speaker 1: matter your affiliation, you know, it didn't really matter. You know,

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Speaker 1: some people have certain type of charges that I really

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01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: didn't want anything to do with, you know, station you know,

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01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, I was a leader. You know,

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01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: I love I love people. I'm a humanitarian and that's

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01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: what I was about. You know what, maybe there there

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01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: were certain people that loved me more than other people.

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01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: But I was all about you know, everyone just trying

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01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 1: to God my brothers just you know, I felt so

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01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: bad that I was there. And while I was there,

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Speaker 1: I would have a number one album I would have,

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Speaker 1: you know, like jay Z would come to Riker's Allen

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Speaker 1: into may Back a right to see you, to come

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01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: and see the Fat Joe would pull up. Fat Joe

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01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: actually did a concert for me for my brothers that

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01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: were incarcerated. So now I was just I was as

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01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: a leader that ever worked against you those type of things. No, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: The the the authorities loved me because you know, all

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01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: I did was pray, you know. Um. You know, I

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01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: was a devout jue you know, kosha Um. I minded

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01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 1: my business, you know, and I try to advise everybody.

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01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: I try to guide everybody people. Young kids would come in.

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01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: I had a program call um Yeah, you have to

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01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: print the ship program. So if a young kid would

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01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: come to my house, I would and he didn't have

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01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: his high school diploma, I would send him or take

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01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: I would take him upstairs to a class that I

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Speaker 1: taught and made sure he would try to get his

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Speaker 1: g D. Wow. You know, so I was always always

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01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: about positivity. That's why, like I said, when I came

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01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: out and I was then with all that negativity, you

1391
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: know that there wasn't the right thing to do. So

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01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, so many people go to jail and they

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01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: come back, you know, they come back blood or they

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01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 1: come back crypt when they come back, Musslim when they

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01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: come back, Christian they come No one comes back Jewish,

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01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, the Israelites the proper name for Jews or

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01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Israelites and Israelites for people who don't know. I'm not

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01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: talking about those guys on forty second streets. That's what

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Speaker 1: I was about to say. No, no, listen, listen, if

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Speaker 1: you're slack, if you're if you if you are a

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01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 1: Christian or a Muslim cordon or the King James version

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01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: of the Bible, and you read the Old test that

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01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: they both have the Old Testament, and you read, you

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01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: know it will tell you um about the Israelites. And

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01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 1: you know the Five Books of Moses is it is

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01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: in both those um scriptures. And you know in the

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01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: Five Books of Moses, which is my name, you change

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01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 1: it Anti Moses Levi, but my name is Moses barrow Um.

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01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 1: The Five Books of Moses documents the happenings of the Israelites.

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01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: It's not in the Torah as well. That's the Torah,

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01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 1: the tourists and the Oak and then the Christian books.

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01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: So the point I'm trying to make is no where

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Speaker 1: in the Torah, the Kordan, or the Christian books do

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01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: they mention the word Jews Israelite. You know, Jews just

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01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: a misnomer. It's just you know, just a swedeo name,

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01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 1: you know, just a um. And if you look at

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01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:26,560
Speaker 1: the journey of the Israelites, they were Africans, egypt Is

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01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: in Africa, North Africa, Africa, right right, right, right, So

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01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: the people in Africa got broad noses, big lips, and

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01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, much darker than i an. You know, you

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01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: had pharaohs that were the color of your shirt. So

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01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 1: the point I'm making is you know, um, the Israelites.

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01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: Most of this story was in Africa, So it's not

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01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 1: like it shouldn't be a coincidence or it shouldn't be

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01:31:56,120 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: shocking that, you know, an African, American, African Caribbean is

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01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: drawn to Judaism because that's an African science. Israelism is

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01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 1: in Africa if you look at if you look at Africa,

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01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 1: Israel is right, they're attached to Sinai, which is in Africa.

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01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: They're they're, they're they're like connected. They call it the

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01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Middle East. I'm not gonna get into that politics. But

1431
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: if you look at the map, I see what you say.

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01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 1: It's not far feted, it's not even far fetched. It's

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01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: literally attached. And the entire thing was going from Egypt

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01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: to it. It's the same people. It's still part of Africa.

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01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: So Africa got Ethiopians, Africa got you know, um, the

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01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: Ebos and Nigeria. You know, shout out to my little

1437
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 1: brother on dar Vido. So it's not you know, to me, um,

1438
01:32:55,880 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: people associate being Jewish for being European, which is you know,

1439
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 1: just a myth. It's not really you know, if you

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01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: look at Moses, Moses was married to Ethiopian. Ah It

1441
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 1: says this, and it's post World War two. Israel says

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01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: this in the Bible. But I'm not talking about Israel.

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01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about you know, So being a Jew

1444
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: is not synonymous with being in Israeli. You know, Um,

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01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 1: this is something that's like five Our our calendar is

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01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: like five thousand and eight hundred years old. So the

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01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: point I'm making is being a Jew being in Israelite

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01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: is not a racial thing. You have Jews from Rock Eye,

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01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 1: you know, you have Jews Morocco. You have Jews from Iran,

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01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 1: you have Jews from Yemen, you have Jews from um Iran.

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01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 1: You have Jews from Syria, you have Jews from um Lebanon,

1452
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: the place. You have Jews from Russia. But your name

1453
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,640
Speaker 1: is mostly places besides Russia. You have Jews, know, you

1454
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: have Jews from from Czechoslovakia, Jews from from all over Europe.

1455
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: But those Jews that in Europe came from Africa, came

1456
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: from Israel. They were persecuted in Jerusalem and in Israel,

1457
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 1: and they fled to to Europe. So the point I'm

1458
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 1: making is I don't like to racialize being a Jew,

1459
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 1: being a Jewish, a racial h being a Jewish of

1460
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: belief and that is uh, you know, to believe in

1461
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 1: one god mino theism, and I believe that there's one

1462
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 1: intelligent designer that created the universe. And you know, having

1463
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:49,719
Speaker 1: a connection with that intelligent designer, it's the holy Grail

1464
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: kind of like with me and did he when I

1465
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: realized that connecting with him would lead me to success.

1466
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: And that's why I chose the name Moses mhm. Because

1467
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 1: Moses was not born a Jew. He wasn't circumcised, he

1468
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: didn't have a britten melt right, he didn't keep shabat,

1469
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 1: he didn't wrap the feeling, he didn't do any of

1470
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: those things. He was raised as an Egyptians. Most is

1471
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: the same person as Mahami, right, no, no, no, But

1472
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 1: Moses is like the Moses the guy, and Judaism is

1473
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: him and King David. But Moses is the guy. He's

1474
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: the guy who got the Torah, you know what I mean? Um,

1475
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: But Moses was raised as an Egyptian, as a North

1476
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 1: African in Pharaoh's house. But Moses everything that he didn't

1477
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 1: come yet typical Stephen Victor get that money. Yeah, m

1478
01:35:56,360 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: But Moses was raised as Egyptian. Right, But that's what

1479
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you that the foundation of being

1480
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 1: a Jew in an Israelite, it's not a racial thing.

1481
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 1: It's an ideological thing. It's a philosophical thing. Right. Let

1482
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: me tell you what that ideological and the philosophical thing is.

1483
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: Moses grew up with Faraoh. Moses was gonna be Faral

1484
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 1: And who is farh? Pharaoh is the guy that works

1485
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: people to death, the guy that has no morals, no characteristics.

1486
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: Can we get around applause? And see we got to

1487
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 1: drink to that that. You know how you know you're

1488
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 1: rich when you wear the same hat every day? That's

1489
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: the money, right, that's that's that, that's that. What's the

1490
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: guy's name? I mean, Warren Buffett is poor? Now that's that.

1491
01:36:53,600 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: Now that's to that that So I look, yeah, so

1492
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 1: long story short. Moses grew up as an Egyptian and

1493
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Moses one day says, you know what, killing people, working

1494
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: people to death? Um, you know, so that I could

1495
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 1: be rich and I could have these pyramids and I

1496
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 1: could have all this wealth. That's scarbage. That's by Suda

1497
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 1: ba right, um, like do we my friends smogan? Right?

1498
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 1: And and that's the foundation of being in this really

1499
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 1: like principles, integrity, right, character. He said, you know what,

1500
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to be rich if being rich means

1501
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 1: that we're gonna work these people to death. These people

1502
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: are gonna be slaves. Man, that's scarbage. And he went

1503
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 1: into the desert. We're nothing most Moses in order to

1504
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 1: follow his prince, supposing his ideas. And that's what I did.

1505
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 1: I said, listen, you know here, the rollies, nice, the

1506
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 1: Bentley's nice. I had all of that while on trial,

1507
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 1: but none of that was worth me being at Takashi

1508
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: six nine and saying, you know, did he did it?

1509
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 1: So my entire life it's based on integrity and character

1510
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: and so like in the House of Representatives and believes

1511
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm dead to advocate on behalf of people. And that's

1512
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 1: what Moses did. God, according to the Five Books, was

1513
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: gonna destroy the Israelites because they were this, they were that,

1514
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 1: they did this, they did that. And Moses said, you

1515
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 1: know what, kill me, but let the Israelites live. And

1516
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 1: that's a true leader. That's a true leader. True leader

1517
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 1: is gonna sacrifice everything for his team. You guys are

1518
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 1: leaders of your team, and I know you guys. Make

1519
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: sure that everybody straight before you straight, everybody goes to bed,

1520
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 1: everybody get their check before you get your check. And

1521
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: so yeah. So so that's my connection to being a

1522
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,719
Speaker 1: so called Jew. I'm not religious, um, because my religion

1523
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 1: is humanity, and my religion is being honest. My religion

1524
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: is being generous. My religion is being tolerant, you know.

1525
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So so I'm about humanity. I'm not about

1526
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: any religion in particular. I still practice the sciences of

1527
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, being a Jew, being Israelite. But yeah, how

1528
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 1: was it living in Paris before? What about the next question? Yeah,

1529
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: but so every day to just close up to just

1530
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 1: close up that last question. The point is, and an

1531
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 1: African being a Jew should not be surprising. Anyone can

1532
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: be a Jew, you know. Being a Jew is not

1533
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: restricted to a particular race. Um yea, So Paris. I

1534
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: was in Paris before Hoven. You just put that on

1535
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: the record. What before Hoven? You you said, Colvin. Yeah, No,

1536
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm cold. Was in Paris. I'm just taking

1537
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 1: my credit. I'm just taking I'm just taking my credit

1538
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: in Paris now before I watched The Throne, Okay, I

1539
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 1: was in Paris Hotel coasties. Now, I was in the

1540
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 1: lama Reee for more than six days. That's Um Stephen,

1541
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: Stephen very rich. Okay, he was rising. But now now

1542
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: you know, Paris is where many of the Jews in

1543
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 1: Israel who were persecuted, many of the Syrian, Moroccan, Iranian

1544
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,560
Speaker 1: Lebanese Jews, they went to Paris about the hash and

1545
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:03,839
Speaker 1: so Patis there's a big there's a big Jewish community

1546
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:07,799
Speaker 1: in Paris, and there's a big African community in Paris.

1547
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: And Paris is so rich with culture in arts. Even

1548
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 1: though you know, there's even though, even though even though

1549
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 1: they did Haiti dirty, you know, they made Haiti pay

1550
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 1: all types of hundreds of billions of dollars because of

1551
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:29,719
Speaker 1: Um Pierre Toussaint Am I saying it right? Stephen Pierre

1552
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 1: Toussaint These, the first African leader in the Caribbean, destroyed

1553
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 1: the French and what is now the Republic of Haiti.

1554
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 1: He's from eighteen o four, He's from Haiti. Africans, Africans

1555
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 1: who Haitian Frants. His heart is Africa, careful, He's so happy. Africans,

1556
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 1: Africans who were transported from Africa to build the New

1557
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: America's destroyed the French, which was the biggest military at

1558
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: the time, biggest military at the time, and they were

1559
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 1: so embarrassed and they had such big egos that they

1560
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: came back and they said, okay, yeah, you got your independence,

1561
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 1: but you owe us. And that's why Haiti is the

1562
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 1: way it is right just finished hadis not the way

1563
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 1: it is right now because Haitians are so you know

1564
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: Mongolian or their their Nimrods their it's because the Europeans

1565
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 1: in France made them pay hundreds of billions of dollars

1566
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 1: that could have went to their development. Right, So um, so, yeah,

1567
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: is that through NATO that they made him pay? No, no, no, no, no,

1568
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: they made him pay for generations. So I'm sure the

1569
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: World Bank was involved in that too, you know, whatever,

1570
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 1: whatever it was, you know, yeah, they made them pay. Yeah,

1571
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: you said Nimrod is that the guy who like used

1572
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 1: to cut people's heads off. That's what they say that

1573
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a Christmas trees come from ms ornaments

1574
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 1: is because Nemo used to cut the people heads off

1575
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 1: and put it on trees. Talking about you were talking

1576
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 1: about France. We were talking about France, but you know,

1577
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 1: the French. The reason France is so rich, the reason

1578
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 1: the UK is so rich, colonial is because of the

1579
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: extraction of wealth from the Caribbean using Africans. So Africans,

1580
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 1: you know what I always tell those African boys and

1581
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: girls and believe and African boys and girls everywhere. You know,

1582
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: never feel inferior, never feel you know that you're something less.

1583
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 1: You're a pharaoh, you know, you're you're a king. That's

1584
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: where you come from. You were forced into slavery. And

1585
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 1: so the Europeans, the French, the United Kingdom, they got

1586
01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: their wealth. They they're the ultimate hustle Portuguese as well,

1587
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: the ultimate, the ultimate killers and murderers and gangsters. A

1588
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,679
Speaker 1: part of that gang right, gangster, he was a gangster,

1589
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 1: you understand. And what they did to native people, they

1590
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 1: pillaged all native pillage. Yeah yeah, so yeah so so.

1591
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: But but you know, French France, notwithstanding things that I

1592
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: just mentioned, you know, there's a lot of culture there,

1593
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: very rich, you know, melting pot of different people, you know, Arabs, Africans, Jews. Yeah,

1594
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 1: so I really loved it that. And where else was

1595
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 1: you living. I was in Israel, I was in Jerusalem,

1596
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,839
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you didn't go straight back to Belize,

1597
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:45,680
Speaker 1: and just now I went straight back to Belize. Why

1598
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:47,640
Speaker 1: do you even stay there? Because you know what, you

1599
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: know what it was. I get a lot of flak

1600
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 1: for that. Okay, No, no, no, it's cool. It was

1601
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 1: good to address the flank. Okay, because people say, oh,

1602
01:44:56,960 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, well number one, When I was getting ready

1603
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 1: to be deported, I had the most expensive lawyer, and

1604
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 1: I had a whole team of people that wanted to

1605
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 1: fight for me to stay. To believe, I mean, stay

1606
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 1: the State of the States. But my thing was, you know,

1607
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: freedom is a muss. I don't want to know. I

1608
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 1: don't want to be incarcerated. I don't want to spend

1609
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 1: a day in prison. You know, the United States. I

1610
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 1: love the United States. It is my second home. But

1611
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 1: I want to be free. I want to be free.

1612
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 1: You know. So they're telling you you're gonna be deported

1613
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 1: in jail, but you know, in the States, they're like, listen,

1614
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 1: we're gonna fight, We're gonna get a lawyer. I'm gonna

1615
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: make sure you stay. But you know, you gotta sit

1616
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: up for like six months, you know, six twelve months

1617
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 1: or more time. Yeah, And I'm like, no, I need

1618
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 1: to be free, you know, toorious b I g sat

1619
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 1: smoking trees and believes that's what I need to be

1620
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 1: thrown up. I don't smoke, but you know I drink. Okay,

1621
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 1: that's okay. Let'slet's take a shot to that man. Let's

1622
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 1: take a shot to that. Goddamnit. It used to set

1623
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 1: it up. Drink about bad you drink when I drink

1624
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 1: Caribbean And yeah. So when that entire process was happening,

1625
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,640
Speaker 1: my thing was just freedom, you know. You know, it

1626
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 1: wasn't about being in the United States. It's after nine years,

1627
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: was about being free. So you know what, I love.

1628
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 1: Belize sent me to my people, and by God's grace,

1629
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 1: when the time is right, I'll be back in the

1630
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 1: United States on drink champs. But and that Caribbean stout

1631
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: and that regular Belican. It's only two rappers that got

1632
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 1: the borted slid it back. Rick, motherfucker. That's my brother too.

1633
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 1: He comes to Belize often, you know, because he does

1634
01:46:56,400 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 1: those performs on those cruises. Highest regards as wife Mandy.

1635
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 1: That's my sister Slickers, my brother, great guy. Um, you

1636
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: know supported me all throughout. You know, they send school

1637
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:16,679
Speaker 1: bags to Belieze they send, you know, education scholarships to Belieze,

1638
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, the first time they came to Belize, were

1639
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 1: connected like that. But for my my thing is to

1640
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 1: be free. I didn't want to be incarcerated. The day

1641
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 1: more so I went, I said, listen to send me,

1642
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 1: send me home, because they had six to nine months.

1643
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 1: You got to stay and then I would be the case.

1644
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 1: But I wanted to be free. And I got to belieze.

1645
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 1: You would have to stay in jail or wasn't like

1646
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:39,680
Speaker 1: they said, you have to stay and be in a

1647
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: halfway house. No, you gotta stay, you gotta stay. No, no, no,

1648
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 1: you were in like um immigration jail. But I didn't

1649
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 1: want to be in any kind of jail. I wanted

1650
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 1: to be free. So when I got to believe, you know,

1651
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 1: I went to Belize. You know, the first things I

1652
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 1: did I went to education, to universities, to high schools

1653
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: for Harvard professors, John j professors I went to When

1654
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 1: I landed in Belize, I went from the airport to

1655
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 1: the girls and Boys home, to the home for foster kids.

1656
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,919
Speaker 1: I went to prison, the prison of Belise in Belize

1657
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 1: too encourage my brothers and sisters and lift everybody up

1658
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 1: and I donated moneys. I did everything that I had

1659
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 1: to do, but I needed to be free. So I

1660
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 1: will go to Mexico City. I would go to you know, uh,

1661
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 1: Costa Rica, Panama, wherever they were Jewish communities, to go

1662
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:49,720
Speaker 1: pray Sabbath and you know, go do my thing. I

1663
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: just want yeah, yeah, except that except let me ask

1664
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:54,759
Speaker 1: you all the stepping because you shine, or they stepping

1665
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 1: you because you're a Jew. No, they accept me because

1666
01:48:57,439 --> 01:48:59,680
Speaker 1: when they see that the feeling and they see all

1667
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: the stuff that I do. Yeah, that's you know, that's

1668
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 1: something that Moses. Moses did when they see you said

1669
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,760
Speaker 1: we need a cup bots like the Jewish kid, that's um,

1670
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,679
Speaker 1: that's a farm. Were never on the farm community. We all,

1671
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 1: you're all together, everybody they eat what they grow. Is

1672
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: that the way you pronounced the we gotta fix it?

1673
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: One thing they know. But I just wanted to be free.

1674
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to go anywhere I would go. So Friday

1675
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: will come voke the flight. I'm out. I'll come back

1676
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 1: on Monday. And then I was in Mexico City shooting

1677
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 1: the video. Shout out to my home girl and Steve

1678
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 1: O as well. Fatima, She's like stylisht quarter, she's stylished extraordin.

1679
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: She stole Swiss beats and and um metro not not

1680
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,560
Speaker 1: metro booming. Sorry the other kid twenty one savage and

1681
01:49:57,040 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 1: all these hot kids. That was my stylus that video.

1682
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 1: So I was shooting a video in Mexico City and

1683
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 1: it was Russia. Shanna, that's the New Year, That's the

1684
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 1: Jewish New Year. And so every year when I was

1685
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 1: incarcerated for nine years, I would say next year in Jerusalem.

1686
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 1: And Jerusalem is the frequency center of the universe Christians,

1687
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 1: of the Muslims, of the Joosa, even Buddhist that's the

1688
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 1: nuclear center of the world. Right, So anyway, every year

1689
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 1: I would say next year in Jerusalem. So when I

1690
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: was in Mexico City, you know, I had the paper

1691
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: I scored to Jerusalem, so I was just gonna go

1692
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: there for a couple of days, maybe a week, and

1693
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: I just I just stayed there, you know. But it

1694
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 1: was about my freedom. And they got clubs in jerusale

1695
01:50:48,320 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 1: that's Televisa. I don't know where Jesus is buried. Jesus too,

1696
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 1: it's not it's next to queen, next next to you.

1697
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 1: Try to hit me with ayth you can say to

1698
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 1: me you got you got me. I'm the drink change.

1699
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 1: I want you to know I want to be ederate

1700
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 1: what I was saying earlier. The best year of my life.

1701
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: And it wasn't about making now that I'm older, it

1702
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 1: wasn't about making money. It wasn't about having exposure. It

1703
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 1: was about having freedom. You know. Um, I recently watched

1704
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 1: you know Cardy come here. That's the biggest show, right,

1705
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 1: yeah it is. And then I but with that's that's

1706
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: that's not why it was. That's the biggest to me,

1707
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 1: to affected me. I recently watched his man just walk

1708
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 1: around by himself. I didn't like that. I'm driving a

1709
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 1: hoop tie where they called the hoop like all the

1710
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: way up the block with all my bags. I feel

1711
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 1: like economy too. But we all wanted a hoopie and

1712
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: what it's called us freedom? What it called us to do?

1713
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 1: Whatever the fun. Stephen Victors, he's on the peach and yes,

1714
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 1: yes he's he's freedom as well. Yes, what I'm trying

1715
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 1: to say is in that tiny eight me get back

1716
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 1: to the point I was trying to make eight. It

1717
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 1: was me dmx Cannabis, Cameron Cappadonna, corrupt cannabis. Was that God? Yeah,

1718
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 1: he was, and he was this was it was hard, yeah, right,

1719
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 1: this was O. And then out the blue they say

1720
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: this is this guy named Sean and we're all like,

1721
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 1: who the fucking Seine? Why I got talking about him?

1722
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 1: Where's his fads? Where's this thing that you guys are

1723
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: talking when you was one of them guys like why

1724
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 1: the fucking kind of might open? Those guys mean definitely,

1725
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 1: let's drink to that. We gotta drink to that. We

1726
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,680
Speaker 1: gotta drink to that. Drink about the first day. I

1727
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember, you gotta drink we gotta

1728
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 1: drink that. So solo, the rumor on the street was

1729
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 1: this guy no record. That's why I kept asking. I

1730
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 1: don't know if you'll remember earlier, I kept asking, when

1731
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 1: was the record that started? He explained it it's because

1732
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 1: it was just him. But by the way that was

1733
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 1: the first Instagram his was and the way that it's spread,

1734
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 1: it spread like something viray on Instagram. Well that's what

1735
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 1: viral was back then, That's what word brow them out

1736
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 1: them out And I kid, you know, I'm not being

1737
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 1: I'm being honest as an outside of looking in I

1738
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:07,479
Speaker 1: was like, who is this guy and how how does

1739
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: he have such a like having a buzz without a

1740
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 1: record was unheard of. You couldn't You had to be

1741
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 1: on clues tape starting, starting it, starting it. That means

1742
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 1: that you could have been number seven on clue tape

1743
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 1: and mother like that, ain't it? Because it was the

1744
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: first five slots and then seven, eight, nine and ten

1745
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 1: and thirty one. No one to listen to the it's

1746
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: the first seven spots. I'm that serious. I'm not even

1747
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 1: if I'm not even playing around. I think people into

1748
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: the whole tape. But go ahead, not if you wanted

1749
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 1: to be on top of what if you want to

1750
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 1: be what I'm saying clue tape. Do you know it

1751
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 1: was the first ten songs? Maybe ten, I'll tell you

1752
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: it's the first seven. I'm telling you that meant something

1753
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 1: to the world. Hot ninety seven were literally because there

1754
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 1: wasn't no power one or five back then. They were

1755
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 1: looking to the listen to the first ten clue songs

1756
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 1: of the were seven clue sauls and those songs will

1757
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:05,680
Speaker 1: be added to rotation. That's literally how the world was

1758
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 1: at one point. So I say that to say it's

1759
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 1: all bigging you up. Just let's let's roll. I said

1760
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 1: to say, you had none of that, and you had

1761
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: the world saying, I'm giving him a one man deaf jams.

1762
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm giving him one point to um electure Sylvie Rune.

1763
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 1: Come on, Jimmy Ivan. Jesus, you know Jimmy Ivan is

1764
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 1: so important because right now Stephen Victor he got that.

1765
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy I v money too. Yes, you know what Stephen Victor.

1766
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 1: With Stephen Victor him, don't just talk fly. He gives back.

1767
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 1: He's given like you know, a hundred thousand two, believes

1768
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 1: in education funds. Goddamnit. He's giving much. He's given um.

1769
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 1: He's giving me money to sign artists and believe he's

1770
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 1: giving me mom money. Yuse my money is like millions

1771
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 1: of dollars. So we're not we're not. We're not there.

1772
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 1: As far as the charity money, he's making sure that

1773
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 1: charity money there. But Jimmy Irvine, you know, Stephen Victor

1774
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 1: reminds me of a young Jimmy Avine. And I told

1775
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 1: him that you'll tell you beautiful, No, he'll tell you.

1776
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 1: I told him this thirteen years ago. I said, listen,

1777
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 1: I told you that the house avaliable. That's all you

1778
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 1: gotta do. And the black Jim got a house, a house.

1779
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 1: He got a dog when he got the house. But anyway,

1780
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 1: I want to shop for that. I feel like I

1781
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 1: feel like that. That's that's only Caribbean like one. I'm

1782
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 1: doing all y'all drinking like it's all beliefs. It's all beliefs.

1783
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 1: I noticed that I went to Dominican Republan. But let

1784
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 1: me call in this episode all beliefs, beliefs all my

1785
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 1: mom but Jimmy, Jimmy Ivine, Jimmy Ivine told me, you

1786
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: know when I went to UM, when I went to

1787
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 1: sign with him, when he interviewed me, look at the

1788
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 1: main kids are they always want to charm in his

1789
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 1: isn't his entype of thing was? You know, you gotta

1790
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: be self contained. I don't want to sign UM. I

1791
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: don't want to sign nobody that I gotta manage and

1792
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, micromanage. And you know that's why

1793
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I give a round of applause

1794
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 1: and Steve the victor, because that's what I'm telling my

1795
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 1: artists right now. And believe I can't make them a hit.

1796
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 1: I can't wave a magic wand and they'll be famous tomorrow.

1797
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 1: But if they work hard, if they're determined, if they

1798
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 1: want them to run through the brick wall the way

1799
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: I was, if they're wanting to jump into Miami Beach

1800
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 1: see and swim to Cuba to believe that Jamaica, they'll

1801
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:49,240
Speaker 1: get there. But I'm not gonna wait for one for

1802
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 1: them to get there and get them the holy Grail.

1803
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 1: They gotta, They gotta find the holy They gotta like

1804
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 1: you found. That's beautiful. So you once said hip hop

1805
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 1: it's not the cause for violence in America. Hip hop

1806
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 1: and responsible for responsible for the violence as in America.

1807
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 1: It's a very deep statement, sir. You know, but I

1808
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:18,400
Speaker 1: wanna we gotta drink to Uncle Joe because I don't

1809
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 1: like calling him out. No, no, I call him Uncle Joe.

1810
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 1: That's my guy. Don't get between me and Uncle Joe.

1811
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 1: We got a thing. I'm an independent, We got a thing.

1812
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 1: You could all right, You gotta brown always wasn't definitely

1813
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 1: not Uncle Joe. Uncle excuse me, Hold on, Joe. She's

1814
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 1: with she's with the other guy. I'm not even gonna

1815
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: say his name. Yeah, that's a bad omen. President President Biden.

1816
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 1: What I like about President Biden. It's the fact that

1817
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 1: I love how we're talking politics for the first time.

1818
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,960
Speaker 1: The fact that you know, he said he was gonna

1819
01:58:57,040 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 1: do one, two, three, four five, and he's doing that,

1820
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:08,000
Speaker 1: So like what what you voted? Listen. I love Kanye.

1821
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 1: I love over this episode. Listen. Listen, listen, listen part

1822
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 1: of part of I'm not part of the brotherhood. But listen,

1823
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 1: Kanye ain't get elected. I got elected. He got a

1824
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 1: ten billion, right, he got that over me. But he

1825
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 1: didn't get elected. I got elected. He failed on that one,

1826
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:34,120
Speaker 1: so I got him out on it. But that still

1827
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 1: my brother. So we could trade notes. It's a strawberry switch. Yeah,

1828
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 1: I'll do that. But the point, the point I'm making this, um,

1829
01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:47,240
Speaker 1: you know President Biden, he said infrastructure, he said he

1830
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 1: was gonna, you know, do this, do that. Black agenda,

1831
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 1: just a black agenda we're getting. Then. See that's why

1832
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't like no, no, no, but but you can't

1833
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 1: we need that. First only been a year, but he

1834
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 1: was born Rack Obama right hand man ship. No, it's

1835
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,280
Speaker 1: only been a year. It's only been a year. And

1836
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm telling you right here on drink

1837
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 1: Champs I'm going to meet with President Biden and you know,

1838
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:17,880
Speaker 1: I'll discussed. I like that agenda you got here. But

1839
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 1: Obama didn't have a black agenda. But I'm not unless

1840
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 1: he had. He had, he had an American agenda. We

1841
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 1: can't do that. We can't. And what I'm telling you,

1842
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Rep. Uh baby uh Rep. How came

1843
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 1: Jeffreys's on? Hold on, hold on hold on the Congressional

1844
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:45,080
Speaker 1: Black Caucus they all standing up clapping right now because

1845
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 1: they brought this infrastructure bill, bipartisan bill the past, and

1846
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 1: that's the Congressional Black Caucus. So obviously this infrastructure bill

1847
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 1: is affecting black people and it's benefiting black people. I'm

1848
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 1: telling you the head of the Congressional Black Caucus. You

1849
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:09,080
Speaker 1: go to her page, she's like, oh yeah, we just

1850
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:13,600
Speaker 1: passed this bill and the Congressional Black Caucus is responsible for.

1851
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is President Biden, he's delivering. And

1852
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he's delivering. We can't, we can't, we

1853
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:29,000
Speaker 1: can't eat, we listen, we can't eat, can't, we can't

1854
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:34,040
Speaker 1: do everything in one day. But I'm telling you he's deliverment.

1855
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm happy that he's making moves, and

1856
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 1: I wish that in Belize. You know, the government would

1857
02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 1: do what they said that was gonna do, because they're

1858
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 1: not doing what they said that was gonna do. Joe

1859
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:52,960
Speaker 1: said infrastructure, and Joe just delivering infrastructure with the Republicans supported.

1860
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:58,120
Speaker 1: Because I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a Republican. I'm

1861
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 1: a moderate. I'm an mit him. I'm for whatever is

1862
02:02:02,920 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 1: best for people. I understand what Republicans say, I understand

1863
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:12,280
Speaker 1: what Democrats say, and I'm for what's best for Belize

1864
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 1: and what's best for people. Yeah. So yeah, Jesus, I

1865
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:20,800
Speaker 1: give Uncle Joe the chance. You're not gonna change my mind.

1866
02:02:21,240 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 1: Kanye still my man, but Uncle Joe getting the chance.

1867
02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:31,320
Speaker 1: Drink to that Uncle Joe. I'm on music questions because

1868
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 1: she got real all right, How was it working with

1869
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:38,760
Speaker 1: Nate Dog because you know there's so many people know

1870
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking trying to remember who hit me with that song?

1871
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:51,840
Speaker 1: Um behind the Wall, Yep, I got the call and

1872
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 1: did you go last? But listen, I got the call.

1873
02:02:56,920 --> 02:02:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not even gonna hold you like that.

1874
02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 1: That's Victor's that's term. You're not gonna hold you. I'm

1875
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:03,840
Speaker 1: not even gonna hold you. I was not in the

1876
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: studio with when they're doing you never met him or

1877
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 1: did you meet him? You met him? I'm not sure

1878
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:10,480
Speaker 1: if I met him, but I wasn't in the studio

1879
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:14,040
Speaker 1: with him for that song. I was driving around New

1880
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 1: York City and that Bentley and god damn small sething

1881
02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:21,400
Speaker 1: like that. I had that six hundred, the Bentley and

1882
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:23,360
Speaker 1: the brain Drover. I don't even remember the name of

1883
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:25,839
Speaker 1: that watch you got on, right, you got this the Masterpiece.

1884
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 1: This is what I got on it? Like happy, So

1885
02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:29,400
Speaker 1: I had the Platinum master Yeah, I had to Platinum

1886
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,480
Speaker 1: master Piece. You got to gold joint, gold down. People

1887
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:35,120
Speaker 1: don't even know what that is. Right, I had to

1888
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:37,320
Speaker 1: plant in the master you got two thousand one. But

1889
02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: I had you know right now? Yeah he was. I

1890
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:54,200
Speaker 1: was outside, Oh damn my bu shopping speaking of yours,

1891
02:03:54,400 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, you know, I got relaxed. But anyway,

1892
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,680
Speaker 1: I was. I was driving around New York City and

1893
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:11,360
Speaker 1: that Benyonnage and that Platinum Masterpiece. Um, and I got

1894
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:14,920
Speaker 1: the call. It was like, yo, corrupt, you know what

1895
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean? They want you. I want you to hit

1896
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:24,240
Speaker 1: that remix. You know corrupt, corrupt? Is that guy that

1897
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:30,080
Speaker 1: super talent, the whole cruel dog, you know what that

1898
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 1: so for me, it was like honor. It's like you

1899
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:36,160
Speaker 1: got the call from them, you know. I want to

1900
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 1: give Swiss beats his flowers as well. He was like

1901
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 1: one of the first guys that hit me. Um. When

1902
02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:48,560
Speaker 1: the album dropped, it was like, and that's how we

1903
02:04:48,720 --> 02:04:54,160
Speaker 1: ended up doing Shine, which was on his album. I

1904
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 1: forgot the name of his album, his first album, I

1905
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:03,520
Speaker 1: want that drink to each of the compilation compilation. Um, yeah,

1906
02:05:04,360 --> 02:05:07,800
Speaker 1: has to be right. He called me for that record.

1907
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 1: That was one of the best records I ever did.

1908
02:05:10,720 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 1: Get pulled up in the noge, you know, because Benny's

1909
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 1: was That was like thing back then again to my

1910
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:23,920
Speaker 1: young African American brothers, Latin American brothers, don't spend what

1911
02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 1: you don't have. Save your money, invests, grow your money,

1912
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, don't you know, don't spend what you don't have.

1913
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:34,760
Speaker 1: But anyway, back then, spending what you don't have, that

1914
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:39,720
Speaker 1: was a part of the culture. Spending, not making just

1915
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:45,920
Speaker 1: every now and then, I like to do it. Man. Anyway,

1916
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:49,120
Speaker 1: I was driving around the town and your Swiss call me.

1917
02:05:50,080 --> 02:05:54,000
Speaker 1: He made that beat, but can we play that? Dude,

1918
02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 1: got the music up? You got my man already Google

1919
02:05:55,960 --> 02:05:59,000
Speaker 1: and other year you got the shine. Definitely pull it up.

1920
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:04,280
Speaker 1: I got enough that it was crazy. What was the

1921
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:09,160
Speaker 1: was all my mot Mabel women? Just shine got me? Anyway? Anyway,

1922
02:06:09,200 --> 02:06:16,320
Speaker 1: Swiss called me, Yeah, yeah, but it's on the Gulf. No,

1923
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:21,280
Speaker 1: that's the song that he had a compilation. Yeah, anyway

1924
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 1: to look at this, it's catalog on Wikipedia. Well yeah,

1925
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:31,840
Speaker 1: so um yeah, just the record right here. Yeah, I

1926
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 1: think I thought, yeah, yeah, but that was twist. I

1927
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 1: started on Swis. Listen, I did not write this verse?

1928
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:43,720
Speaker 1: What I did not write this verse? Stop? Swiss was

1929
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 1: on Fort Street between right the next street after Daddy's

1930
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 1: house studios. I went to the studio. I had the

1931
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:54,600
Speaker 1: Long John's same thing that I said in the wrap.

1932
02:06:54,680 --> 02:07:00,560
Speaker 1: I had the Long John fitted U tupoc Timberland's our

1933
02:07:00,640 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 1: knowledge Bentley. I went up in a joint. He made

1934
02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 1: this beat and I listened to the beat for like

1935
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:12,360
Speaker 1: ten minutes, fifteen minutes, the freestyle, the rap, and then

1936
02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 1: I made this rap. If you said you didn't write it,

1937
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:19,560
Speaker 1: I made that rap freestyle. I made that rap. I

1938
02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:23,840
Speaker 1: had a conversation. But your freestyle, no want wrote it

1939
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 1: for You did your freestyle. It's the way you did it.

1940
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:30,760
Speaker 1: Our fans are sucking vicious, So I had to make

1941
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 1: sure there's a difference with your freestyling and writing it

1942
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 1: in your mind. In my mind saying like J no

1943
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:40,320
Speaker 1: no no. So you're trying to say you did this

1944
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 1: before JA no no No, I didn't after j J.

1945
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:47,960
Speaker 1: Was you heard just listen when you love music so

1946
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:51,800
Speaker 1: much and that's all you do, which was I thank

1947
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:56,200
Speaker 1: God forgetting to that phase with all I ever thought about,

1948
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:58,680
Speaker 1: all I ever wanted to do was make music. So

1949
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 1: it's like I was going to court. I was facing

1950
02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 1: twenty five years, you know, incarcerated for something that I

1951
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 1: didn't do, for defending my friend. And you know, when

1952
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,400
Speaker 1: I would leave court, I would go home. I put

1953
02:08:09,480 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 1: on my you know, Thermo, my fitted my tuopop boots,

1954
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:16,640
Speaker 1: and I get in my car, drive around and I

1955
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 1: go to the studio and I just have conversations on

1956
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:24,920
Speaker 1: beats with with with all the big references that people

1957
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 1: give you, you don't ever see all the parallels and

1958
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:31,240
Speaker 1: your guys lives with the single mother, the Caribbean, the

1959
02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 1: the street stuff, that the only the only thing we

1960
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:41,160
Speaker 1: have in common is we did two classic albums and

1961
02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 1: then that was it. You don't think everything else is

1962
02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:47,080
Speaker 1: he went Caribbean. I guess you know, Brooklyn, I guess

1963
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:49,160
Speaker 1: my mom like that. He's a big part of that.

1964
02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 1: He went to heaven, you know, the rest his memory forever.

1965
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:56,680
Speaker 1: You went to purgatory and I went to I went

1966
02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:59,800
Speaker 1: to correctional facilities, you know, because it was the same.

1967
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:03,560
Speaker 1: Like you know, yeah, I was. I was buried a lot,

1968
02:09:04,520 --> 02:09:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, but but there's so many African Americans and

1969
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:13,960
Speaker 1: Latino Americans and minorities that face that struggle, you know

1970
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:17,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, so, yeah, that was a real struggle. Yeah.

1971
02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:20,560
Speaker 1: So so I'll tell you what, Um, not only was

1972
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 1: I excited, you know, you're my friend, like you know,

1973
02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:25,080
Speaker 1: I knew you for twenty years. If we go to

1974
02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:27,000
Speaker 1: about this battle too that you had with my song,

1975
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:32,880
Speaker 1: what we talked about about that Mallory, Yes, yes, yes

1976
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 1: that's my sister, but but my sister system. So I

1977
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 1: went through your holder discography, right and because I'm excited,

1978
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, just because you're my friend doesn't mean I'm

1979
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna slack on my job, right, this is my job.

1980
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:48,720
Speaker 1: I gotta do it. The only thing. Hold on, hold on,

1981
02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 1: we gotta take a shot to you. Okay, But because

1982
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:53,880
Speaker 1: you're doing an incredible job, thank you, But this is

1983
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:59,040
Speaker 1: doing right. I like you becoming as I liked on

1984
02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 1: the transition. Listen to transition to transition that you've made

1985
02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:09,000
Speaker 1: from you know, a rap, you know platinum artists making

1986
02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:13,160
Speaker 1: great records than reinventing yourself. Thank you, and being a

1987
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 1: bridge being a platform for hip hop. Thank you. It's incredible.

1988
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:22,080
Speaker 1: But the only record right when I went through your

1989
02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:25,400
Speaker 1: holdest I really really did right, And the only record

1990
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 1: that even similar reminded me a big because now I

1991
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:32,800
Speaker 1: could distinguish your voice. Back then, I didn't understand, like

1992
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 1: I was like cool, people say signs look real. I

1993
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:37,720
Speaker 1: got that names will flow. Damn, that's kind of I didn't.

1994
02:10:37,720 --> 02:10:39,320
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was like that. But the only

1995
02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:42,720
Speaker 1: record I could see that sounded remotely a little like

1996
02:10:42,920 --> 02:10:47,600
Speaker 1: man was the record called Their Head No, because it

1997
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:51,880
Speaker 1: reminded me of Gloria from a story like that's I was.

1998
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:55,040
Speaker 1: I was telling the story. I was telling the story.

1999
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying. But if you that's

2000
02:10:57,680 --> 02:10:59,640
Speaker 1: the only But if you listen to that story that

2001
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 1: still it's crazy, No, it is, its insane. Yeah, but

2002
02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:11,240
Speaker 1: that story was from hanging with guys like Zip, Yes,

2003
02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:15,640
Speaker 1: hanging with you know, guys on the West Coast, you know,

2004
02:11:17,240 --> 02:11:22,040
Speaker 1: guys in Baltimore, guys in Atlanta that you know, we're

2005
02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:24,400
Speaker 1: really living that life. You know, rest in peace too,

2006
02:11:25,320 --> 02:11:29,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Wolf Jones, my brothers, the Homi. That's that's all

2007
02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:33,560
Speaker 1: my brother and I was the home all all the

2008
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:37,600
Speaker 1: information that they were giving me. That that's what was

2009
02:11:37,680 --> 02:11:40,720
Speaker 1: really happening. And again that goes back, you know, to

2010
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:47,160
Speaker 1: Oliver North, goes back to Ronald Reagan. You're on conscious

2011
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, Noriega by how does that be? So? So yeah,

2012
02:11:56,640 --> 02:12:00,760
Speaker 1: all that information. Yeah, you know, big meat, big beach.

2013
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:04,080
Speaker 1: He olden and dirt, you know what I mean, been around.

2014
02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:08,480
Speaker 1: He looked young, but he was there back back in

2015
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:14,320
Speaker 1: the eighties. Crack cocaine ever. Wow. So we spoke about

2016
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:18,280
Speaker 1: Nate earlier, right, but you also got the record called

2017
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:22,840
Speaker 1: That's Gangster. You know, I'm gonna tell a secret right now,

2018
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:28,920
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give flowers. I'm gonna gives but not

2019
02:12:29,120 --> 02:12:33,120
Speaker 1: not just not just not just the d C who

2020
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:37,560
Speaker 1: was the hero, and I picked every beat for the

2021
02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:41,640
Speaker 1: shann album. I'm I'm really the executive producers shot out.

2022
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:51,840
Speaker 1: But I got that from Nahs the album I am

2023
02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:56,520
Speaker 1: with the Egyptian Flowership and he still had Queen's Bitch

2024
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:59,560
Speaker 1: in the bat and he hit that that ain't gangster.

2025
02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't remember what the song it was that fake dogs,

2026
02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 1: I don't remember what song was where he he had

2027
02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:13,320
Speaker 1: a rap that said that ain't gangster. And so I

2028
02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:16,960
Speaker 1: took that and I said, you know what, that's gangster

2029
02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:22,800
Speaker 1: from Commissary and your homies gangster, that s gangster. You

2030
02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:26,000
Speaker 1: know what made you pick that? Called float flooded with rocks,

2031
02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:28,640
Speaker 1: that's gangster. So I got that from nuns. That's the

2032
02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:32,640
Speaker 1: plane change. You ain't flood that, you know. I'm got

2033
02:13:32,680 --> 02:13:37,560
Speaker 1: that head. That's the factory. Let's take a shot of that.

2034
02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:44,920
Speaker 1: I take the train, I fly another episode, but you

2035
02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:51,600
Speaker 1: got another episode. So so when you came home, you

2036
02:13:51,680 --> 02:13:55,920
Speaker 1: also named the record label gang Land Records. Now the

2037
02:13:56,160 --> 02:14:01,920
Speaker 1: record label is Omni Belize Records. Every Thing believes any

2038
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:06,960
Speaker 1: means everything you knew. I'll let us ask what everything everything?

2039
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:11,760
Speaker 1: And are you interested? Let's just be clear and doing

2040
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:17,200
Speaker 1: another shout out. You know Stephen Victor and I, you know,

2041
02:14:17,280 --> 02:14:23,920
Speaker 1: we're partners. We're doing a documentary. We're doing about let

2042
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:29,360
Speaker 1: me rephrase that. We're doing a biodocumentary like biopic slash documentary. No, no,

2043
02:14:29,640 --> 02:14:32,080
Speaker 1: we're doing a biodocumentary. I don't know what that means.

2044
02:14:32,120 --> 02:14:36,600
Speaker 1: A biogury documentary. That means a documentary about my life. Okay, yeah,

2045
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:40,280
Speaker 1: we're doing a bio movie means a movie about my life. Okay,

2046
02:14:40,360 --> 02:14:42,880
Speaker 1: that's like n w A and we're a rescripted. We're

2047
02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:49,720
Speaker 1: doing a TV series about my life. So all of

2048
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:55,760
Speaker 1: those three assets will be a company with albums inspired

2049
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:59,320
Speaker 1: by those assets. So the TV series, we hope, you know,

2050
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:01,960
Speaker 1: that would be a couple of years. Because in Belize, Belies,

2051
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:09,720
Speaker 1: there's a narco trafficking hub of you know, all of

2052
02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:20,800
Speaker 1: the cocaine from Venezuela, Colombia stops in Belize, going to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua. Unfortunately.

2053
02:15:21,800 --> 02:15:24,360
Speaker 1: Um so there's there's a lot of stories to tell,

2054
02:15:25,320 --> 02:15:28,040
Speaker 1: a lot of stories to tell. I definitely didn't know that.

2055
02:15:29,080 --> 02:15:38,240
Speaker 1: Did you get your Belie narkos Belie narcos, They got

2056
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:43,360
Speaker 1: Belies Les Belies was in Narcos. We got the Belize Narcos.

2057
02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:45,360
Speaker 1: But again, Belize is not gonna be known for that,

2058
02:15:46,760 --> 02:15:49,640
Speaker 1: right because it's gonna be known for the first rap prime.

2059
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:53,000
Speaker 1: Minister putting that out there, you know, I'll be the

2060
02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:56,720
Speaker 1: first rap prime When when? When is the time? You

2061
02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:59,360
Speaker 1: know that that could happen a couple of years? You know,

2062
02:15:59,600 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 1: we don't and we just legal beliefs, right, we don't know.

2063
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 1: You took that, we don't know, and you transition that

2064
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:15,600
Speaker 1: into weeds. You're a real rapper, not change. But you know,

2065
02:16:15,640 --> 02:16:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a member of the House of Representatives

2066
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Speaker 1: UM National Security Committee, and we just legalized weed. Yeah,

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02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:29,080
Speaker 1: so you know I got to take this opportunity to knowledge.

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Speaker 1: You know, my friend um uh man, you're gonna make

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02:16:34,640 --> 02:16:39,320
Speaker 1: me forget her name with all these shots. Gloria from Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. They say glory for washing the heights. I said,

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02:16:42,120 --> 02:16:45,160
Speaker 1: I know how to not not glorious, not glorious form storia.

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02:16:45,959 --> 02:16:49,960
Speaker 1: I know how to Gloria. Gloria and my god Cal

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Speaker 1: from Washington, d C. We're doing the um, We're doing

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02:16:53,720 --> 02:16:58,840
Speaker 1: the Cannabest. They're gonna do a cannabis festival. In beliefe Um,

2075
02:16:59,080 --> 02:17:01,920
Speaker 1: you need smoke Champs. So let me ask you. We're

2076
02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:03,840
Speaker 1: gonna fly you out. We're gonna feel us, We're gonna

2077
02:17:03,879 --> 02:17:11,400
Speaker 1: flood you because um, you have the biggest boss there was.

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Speaker 1: We gotta talk about this house representative thing though, man, okay,

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02:17:15,760 --> 02:17:18,040
Speaker 1: let's come back to that talking about we don't know.

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02:17:18,440 --> 02:17:20,080
Speaker 1: I think, I just I just gotta established this one

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02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:23,480
Speaker 1: thing right, and then we're going to to my somebody

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02:17:23,480 --> 02:17:25,040
Speaker 1: and then we go to the House of representative problems.

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02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:30,960
Speaker 1: But the House of representative thing. But you and you

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02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:33,960
Speaker 1: locked up. You are, for lack of a better term,

2085
02:17:34,040 --> 02:17:38,560
Speaker 1: like we established earlier, the New York TUPAC, the industry TUPAC,

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Speaker 1: and the world's TUPAC inspired so many people. You know,

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Speaker 1: cheers my little brother Game one man, Yeah, changing my

2088
02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:50,280
Speaker 1: little brother Game, who never shot away from talking about

2089
02:17:50,280 --> 02:17:53,120
Speaker 1: how much I inspired him and how much you know,

2090
02:17:53,959 --> 02:17:57,360
Speaker 1: I contributed to his rap career. I inspired so many

2091
02:17:57,440 --> 02:18:01,600
Speaker 1: people so that that the numbers again. He was the

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02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:04,840
Speaker 1: first person a depth Jam gave two million dollars in jail?

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02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:07,520
Speaker 1: Was that something? Am? I wait? A much more than

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02:18:07,600 --> 02:18:14,000
Speaker 1: two millions? When then they game, you know, ch cheers

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02:18:14,040 --> 02:18:19,520
Speaker 1: to l a read l a read Kevin Liles three

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Speaker 1: hundred Yeah, and um, but you in jail. How does

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02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:27,200
Speaker 1: this work? Do they put that in your commissary? Not

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02:18:30,959 --> 02:18:35,160
Speaker 1: how it works. They gave it to Mama Love, Mama, Mama,

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02:18:35,360 --> 02:18:39,320
Speaker 1: Mama Love. She was Mama Love getting check chears to

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02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:43,360
Speaker 1: my mother. Here's Mama Love. Mama Love got first with

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02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:47,400
Speaker 1: your mama Love. Mama Love got the first. She was

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Speaker 1: every black mama there live in Belize as well. She

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02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:56,039
Speaker 1: was born in Belize. No, she's still in the six

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02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:58,760
Speaker 1: for all the time that I was in cons read

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Speaker 1: that she never worked. Wow, today she doesn't work. That's amazing.

2106
02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:06,840
Speaker 1: I gave gave her all my royalties, all my assets,

2107
02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:10,720
Speaker 1: beautiful and music, and you know, take care of her beautiful.

2108
02:19:10,879 --> 02:19:14,640
Speaker 1: But you know she's been through a lot. Your only chet,

2109
02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:19,039
Speaker 1: seeing your baby, baby a child. You put her through

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02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:21,840
Speaker 1: a lot. I was only yeah. Yeah, So everything that

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02:19:21,920 --> 02:19:24,560
Speaker 1: I give to her she deserves. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It was funny that you broke up forty five Street,

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Speaker 1: right because forty five Street. I don't know if you

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02:19:29,720 --> 02:19:31,560
Speaker 1: know when you said that, that was a student called

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Speaker 1: sound on Sound. That's where we did. That's where I

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02:19:34,080 --> 02:19:36,640
Speaker 1: was we did all That's what I did. That's why

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02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:40,800
Speaker 1: I did the first song to my album U. That's

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Speaker 1: why I wants you to see Big by the way.

2119
02:19:42,560 --> 02:19:46,400
Speaker 1: Only when survived we can people believe and get found

2120
02:19:46,440 --> 02:19:49,879
Speaker 1: with their face waste. Everyone used to be like think

2121
02:19:49,959 --> 02:19:52,039
Speaker 1: Big was just being Daddy's house boat on low when

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02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:53,920
Speaker 1: he was going to be away from everyone, he would

2123
02:19:53,959 --> 02:19:56,320
Speaker 1: turn the course and go. But there's one day on

2124
02:19:56,400 --> 02:20:00,160
Speaker 1: Sound South, we're sitting there. We just had shots my

2125
02:20:00,280 --> 02:20:04,560
Speaker 1: South and then later on we filed out. It was

2126
02:20:04,600 --> 02:20:07,800
Speaker 1: like a junior Boflia Shine incident. That was on forty

2127
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Speaker 1: four Street, which was for very next blocks, which I

2128
02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:13,360
Speaker 1: did not realize. And you know, you know, Caesar is

2129
02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:17,360
Speaker 1: my god all these years, all these is he's like

2130
02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:20,800
Speaker 1: one of my biggest supporters. And you go on this page,

2131
02:20:20,879 --> 02:20:23,760
Speaker 1: you can see you know, I remember when we had

2132
02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:28,080
Speaker 1: the Bad Boy Um reunion. He's like he was one

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02:20:28,120 --> 02:20:31,000
Speaker 1: of the first people like yo, because I performed at

2134
02:20:31,040 --> 02:20:33,160
Speaker 1: the Bad Boy Reunion, you know, and he was like,

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02:20:33,240 --> 02:20:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, this is history, Like this is incredible moment

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02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:40,959
Speaker 1: in the hip hop, the rock. You know, b K Rule,

2137
02:20:41,959 --> 02:20:44,959
Speaker 1: you know Rule. Oh my guys, you know what I'm saying.

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02:20:45,000 --> 02:20:47,879
Speaker 1: But you know, things happen. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

2139
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:50,960
Speaker 1: things happen. But those are all my guys, and I

2140
02:20:51,040 --> 02:20:53,640
Speaker 1: think you know a part of it's just like you know,

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02:20:53,720 --> 02:20:56,120
Speaker 1: with me now and believes in the House who representatives.

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02:20:57,520 --> 02:20:59,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm paying my dues. You know, I'm paying

2143
02:20:59,400 --> 02:21:03,040
Speaker 1: my debt. You know. That's the reason I bring Caribbean Rum.

2144
02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:06,520
Speaker 1: But we like I bring Belikin, I bring ninety one.

2145
02:21:06,680 --> 02:21:09,120
Speaker 1: I didn't even give you all of it. All the

2146
02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:12,959
Speaker 1: shirts yea, everything where I got for you gonna wear

2147
02:21:13,720 --> 02:21:16,440
Speaker 1: other shows and everything. I'm just telling you know what

2148
02:21:16,480 --> 02:21:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying this, this is a reason because I paid

2149
02:21:19,400 --> 02:21:21,720
Speaker 1: my dues. I don't know who know what I'm saying.

2150
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't know who, who's that, who's the But I

2151
02:21:25,400 --> 02:21:28,199
Speaker 1: paid my dues. So it's like even even with those guys,

2152
02:21:29,480 --> 02:21:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you know, you don't know, you don't

2153
02:21:31,800 --> 02:21:34,560
Speaker 1: know what's going on. You're like, yo, I heard this,

2154
02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:36,840
Speaker 1: I heard that. This is a joint right here, this

2155
02:21:36,920 --> 02:21:47,640
Speaker 1: is you know what I'm saying. It's all right, let's yeah,

2156
02:21:47,720 --> 02:21:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come to the end. But yeah, so like

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02:21:50,480 --> 02:21:52,280
Speaker 1: with that, you know, just for me, I'm gonna take

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02:21:52,320 --> 02:21:59,040
Speaker 1: this one. But if we wanted that one, you know,

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02:21:59,640 --> 02:22:03,440
Speaker 1: my guy to your Maia d Rock, what's it this

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02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:06,400
Speaker 1: grac was there? Like well, I think you know it

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02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:10,400
Speaker 1: was just miscommunication. I brought to so working for you,

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02:22:11,879 --> 02:22:13,879
Speaker 1: I'll take minds immediately. I mean, put it all right,

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02:22:16,040 --> 02:22:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm into the interview. I can't believe put it on.

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Speaker 1: Put it on my hats. Yeah, I don't put it

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Speaker 1: on my hand. I got a half for I don't

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Speaker 1: even have a worn a hat. Okay, you look like

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02:22:26,800 --> 02:22:31,120
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Pack. Hold on to it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, got wrong. So was that, you know, not

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02:22:42,520 --> 02:22:44,839
Speaker 1: that that was just I think, you know, just miscommunication

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Speaker 1: of you know, just not knowing you do, not understanding

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02:22:48,280 --> 02:22:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, just you know, but

2172
02:22:50,879 --> 02:22:53,000
Speaker 1: those are my guys, like the Rock is my man.

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02:22:53,040 --> 02:22:57,640
Speaker 1: We did with shots Fly was locked up together, really,

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Speaker 1: I mean at the same time, maybe not the same facility.

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02:23:01,480 --> 02:23:04,879
Speaker 1: And it's always been loved because as you got the reports,

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02:23:06,040 --> 02:23:09,360
Speaker 1: they got the reports that shine as we used to

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02:23:09,400 --> 02:23:13,560
Speaker 1: say back in that time, it is official tissue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: God bless it's my god, God blest that right. She's

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Speaker 1: the Luise hold on. Let me see believes you gotta

2180
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:23,560
Speaker 1: do believes. So yeah, let's talk about it. Let's go

2181
02:23:24,040 --> 02:23:25,959
Speaker 1: let's talk about so everybody got to go to believes.

2182
02:23:26,400 --> 02:23:29,320
Speaker 1: You said you want to talk about Actually, so no,

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02:23:29,360 --> 02:23:31,600
Speaker 1: I just want everybody because before you even proceed, I mean,

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02:23:31,600 --> 02:23:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna get the sweatshirt, who has

2185
02:23:35,400 --> 02:23:40,240
Speaker 1: what I'm in? Who has better word waters, who has

2186
02:23:40,320 --> 02:23:46,440
Speaker 1: better waters Turks and cakeos or believes better waters. Let's

2187
02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:50,800
Speaker 1: be clear, Beliefs has better everything. Really, the one is

2188
02:23:51,120 --> 02:23:54,160
Speaker 1: everything is better in beliefs. That's the slogan. That's the

2189
02:23:54,240 --> 02:23:58,560
Speaker 1: slogan that I'm made up. Alright, cool, it's just throwing

2190
02:23:58,600 --> 02:24:07,000
Speaker 1: just in away like a spot so good. So bottom line,

2191
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:09,560
Speaker 1: this is where we're leaving with this, right, Sean Police

2192
02:24:09,640 --> 02:24:11,440
Speaker 1: is the best place in the world, on the planet,

2193
02:24:12,160 --> 02:24:14,400
Speaker 1: definitely the best place to meet, but one of the

2194
02:24:14,480 --> 02:24:17,160
Speaker 1: best places in the world. I encourage everybody to visit.

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02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:20,960
Speaker 1: Please this your goal is to be prime minister. What

2196
02:24:21,080 --> 02:24:25,880
Speaker 1: do we do? Do me? Pop jay Z, Kanye West? Nah,

2197
02:24:26,240 --> 02:24:28,280
Speaker 1: I have to take a boat down there, and we

2198
02:24:28,360 --> 02:24:32,360
Speaker 1: got a campaign. Got about the bag right, got to

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02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:35,480
Speaker 1: change people's lives. I gotta change Stephen Victor. You know

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02:24:35,600 --> 02:24:37,760
Speaker 1: that's that's he got the bag. No, I'm just saying, no,

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02:24:38,440 --> 02:24:41,720
Speaker 1: you don't got the bag. He's giving the bag. He's

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02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:45,760
Speaker 1: getting on the PJ and he's flying to Belize on

2203
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:49,120
Speaker 1: Garrett for the Sentiment Day, and he's giving away like

2204
02:24:49,160 --> 02:24:52,480
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars. We gotta go, we gotta go. Man,

2205
02:24:53,320 --> 02:24:59,119
Speaker 1: He's not giving away. He's giving away for for scholarships

2206
02:24:59,160 --> 02:25:04,800
Speaker 1: for Armory School, scholarships for junior high, the scholarships for university.

2207
02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:10,160
Speaker 1: It's called Stephen victor Um Scholarship. Fun and then you

2208
02:25:10,320 --> 02:25:16,280
Speaker 1: have different different shiphip. I'm gonna be honest. We got

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Speaker 1: the same initiationes be as me, be as as as

2210
02:25:19,360 --> 02:25:24,960
Speaker 1: to be so like whatever his donation is, Little pod So.

2211
02:25:29,120 --> 02:25:31,959
Speaker 1: I was playing around earlier, but now I'm serious. It's

2212
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:34,320
Speaker 1: the goal to make you the prime minister for real?

2213
02:25:34,680 --> 02:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Would this ever be that? Like you know what I mean?

2214
02:25:37,080 --> 02:25:40,000
Speaker 1: Like like for awesome for real? She's like, can we go?

2215
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:42,440
Speaker 1: And what does the prime minister mean? The Prime minister

2216
02:25:42,600 --> 02:25:44,520
Speaker 1: is the president? You know, you know what. It's lack

2217
02:25:44,560 --> 02:25:48,440
Speaker 1: of Joe Biden. It's all the things that you know.

2218
02:25:48,680 --> 02:25:52,680
Speaker 1: I compliment President Biden for doing I like to do

2219
02:25:52,879 --> 02:25:57,720
Speaker 1: for my people. I'd like to provide free education for

2220
02:25:57,840 --> 02:26:00,640
Speaker 1: my people where they don't have to go to a politician.

2221
02:26:01,240 --> 02:26:07,480
Speaker 1: But it's a part of the systematic UM operations. Health Care,

2222
02:26:08,360 --> 02:26:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, health care is still a problems. Access to

2223
02:26:11,720 --> 02:26:15,400
Speaker 1: health care still the problem. Minimum wage you know that

2224
02:26:15,520 --> 02:26:18,400
Speaker 1: the type of Yeah, we've got to raise the minimum wage.

2225
02:26:19,080 --> 02:26:23,560
Speaker 1: You know. Access to housing, affordable housing, UM, it's a problem.

2226
02:26:23,959 --> 02:26:28,800
Speaker 1: Access to funding, um, to start your own business, you know,

2227
02:26:28,920 --> 02:26:31,880
Speaker 1: because if you're a poor person, you don't got no credit,

2228
02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:37,320
Speaker 1: you don't got no savings, you ain't got nothing. But

2229
02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:43,640
Speaker 1: we as a government have to customize financing for people

2230
02:26:43,720 --> 02:26:47,760
Speaker 1: like that. You know. Land it's very important, um. You

2231
02:26:47,840 --> 02:26:52,240
Speaker 1: know the caboots that yeah, you talked about. We've got

2232
02:26:52,360 --> 02:26:56,480
Speaker 1: to teach our people to grow what they eat. We've

2233
02:26:56,480 --> 02:26:59,080
Speaker 1: got to teach our people to be self relying, even

2234
02:26:59,160 --> 02:27:03,560
Speaker 1: if it's animals, I mean, whatever, whatever it is, I

2235
02:27:03,640 --> 02:27:06,560
Speaker 1: mean to be self reliance. So we got to give

2236
02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:10,720
Speaker 1: our people land, you know, part of reparations. And in

2237
02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:16,960
Speaker 1: the when when when the man's the patient happened, the

2238
02:27:17,080 --> 02:27:22,800
Speaker 1: Africans throughout the Caribbeans were given nothing. They weren't given

2239
02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:26,360
Speaker 1: any land, they weren't giving any money. They weren't given

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02:27:27,120 --> 02:27:32,320
Speaker 1: any housing. They weren't given anything, right. Um, So part

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02:27:32,360 --> 02:27:34,920
Speaker 1: of farming is, you know, we used to pick cotton

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02:27:35,080 --> 02:27:38,200
Speaker 1: for a slave master. We used to farm for a

2243
02:27:38,240 --> 02:27:42,000
Speaker 1: slave master. We need to have our own land and

2244
02:27:42,160 --> 02:27:46,120
Speaker 1: farm for ourselves, for our own cottony do our own

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02:27:46,240 --> 02:27:48,840
Speaker 1: things be self sustained. And that's something that I want

2246
02:27:48,879 --> 02:27:51,440
Speaker 1: to teach the inter city, you know. So these are

2247
02:27:51,440 --> 02:27:54,040
Speaker 1: all the things that I bring to the table um

2248
02:27:54,280 --> 02:27:57,160
Speaker 1: when it comes to, you know, leading a country. But

2249
02:27:57,240 --> 02:28:00,360
Speaker 1: it's not about being the prime minister. It's about the lease.

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02:28:01,760 --> 02:28:05,320
Speaker 1: Even if I'm not the prime minister. It's about beliefs

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02:28:05,400 --> 02:28:08,200
Speaker 1: and whatever I could do to belize. Whatever I could

2252
02:28:08,240 --> 02:28:10,840
Speaker 1: do four beliefs, I want to do four belies. I

2253
02:28:10,920 --> 02:28:17,039
Speaker 1: love that shot man. You got you got anything ship?

2254
02:28:17,160 --> 02:28:19,120
Speaker 1: I think you covered it all. You got anything else

2255
02:28:19,160 --> 02:28:22,200
Speaker 1: you want to say? Because belize beliefs, beliefs. I see

2256
02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:24,200
Speaker 1: you guys in Belie for New Years. We want to

2257
02:28:24,200 --> 02:28:26,800
Speaker 1: see you. Got to be there at least I'm gonna

2258
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:33,440
Speaker 1: be there coming home and Belie. Oh that's fine. Yeah,

2259
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:36,440
Speaker 1: he got a series We Go Anywhere, not anywhere. Guy,

2260
02:28:36,879 --> 02:28:39,480
Speaker 1: to the way you're saying, this is how terrible brother.

2261
02:28:40,200 --> 02:28:42,040
Speaker 1: I go to different countries, but I want to go

2262
02:28:42,080 --> 02:28:43,960
Speaker 1: to Belize. Yeah he got he got a lot of

2263
02:28:44,280 --> 02:28:48,920
Speaker 1: safe ship's. Man, this is good to Belie. You know,

2264
02:28:49,800 --> 02:28:53,920
Speaker 1: our children are people and believes. They just need opportunity,

2265
02:28:54,800 --> 02:28:57,360
Speaker 1: they just need hope. And for the last forty years

2266
02:28:58,160 --> 02:29:02,640
Speaker 1: we've had politicians that are only concerned with themselves. And

2267
02:29:02,920 --> 02:29:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, once you have that, then you know, the

2268
02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:10,560
Speaker 1: people becomes canon cannibalism. You know, I got to eat.

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Speaker 1: You know, my my young guy he left is in Coasa,

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Speaker 1: not no Cosa was here. Yeah, this kid Coach that

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Speaker 1: he produces with um Um Russian A Russian is the

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Speaker 1: kid that produces for Vibes Cartel and and a bunch

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Speaker 1: of the big Jamaican artists. Coast is a belief and

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Speaker 1: kid grew up in Belize. When I first went back

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Speaker 1: to Belize, one of the things that I did was

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Speaker 1: I had a m a listen to the session every

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Speaker 1: week with studio called Height Survibes. You know my bedron

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Speaker 1: called father lie Fatherly, not Father Lether. And this kid

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Speaker 1: Coosa was a part of that system. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. You produced for Kevin Gates, Bad Bunny, Jay

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Speaker 1: Bafflin all these guys, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: we got you know, um Man bust this guy um

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Speaker 1: Ot Genesis, he's from believes. He's a guard Refunda. He's

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Speaker 1: a guard refund of, just like me, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. So you know what, We've got some some

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Speaker 1: believes in stuff. Let's make some choice believes. You take

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Speaker 1: a picture and do a couple of drops and yeah,

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