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Speaker 1: What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak

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Speaker 1: right here.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and

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Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over

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Speaker 2: at Drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Big with this year Memphis. I'm back at it, niggas.

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Speaker 1: Notice the difference. Just pron present no stones.

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Speaker 2: Right back at you with another episode of Rock Solid.

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Speaker 2: Like I told you you see anybody on this podcast

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Speaker 2: on this platform. Number one name my brother number two

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Speaker 2: days solid than the motherfucker and to the left of me.

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Speaker 2: I got my brother from day one. You might not

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Speaker 2: know who he is, but to me, he's a fucking legend.

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Speaker 2: Been shutting down clubs with some of the greats, doing

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Speaker 2: things you wouldn't even imagine. Some of your greats right

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Speaker 2: now couldn't do it. And this is my brother, no

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Speaker 2: other that hides the ripper with something. Jim, how you

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Speaker 2: been my guy? Here?

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Speaker 1: I'm here, love man, good seeing you man, How you

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Speaker 1: been broken good? I know.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I just want to thank you for this.

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Speaker 1: This is great.

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Speaker 3: This is great, man for showing me love what you

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Speaker 3: did on the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: No man, it was Doe man, Like yeah, they asked

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Speaker 2: me you know a simple question. Who did I feel

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Speaker 2: didn't get an album or get to just do that

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Speaker 2: he needed?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, my god, hiss, bro.

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Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, because Bro, from the beginning,

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Speaker 2: I seen you do nothing but shut shit down. At

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Speaker 2: how I met you, I met you after the fact,

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Speaker 2: because you don't even know this. I got introduced to

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Speaker 2: you by basically Damn.

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Speaker 1: They're having the hate on.

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Speaker 2: You because that has because I went Hollywood after reasonable

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Speaker 2: doubt and they clipped me, left me in the project.

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Speaker 2: That's when Jay did the Biggie tour, went on the

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Speaker 2: tour with Puffing Up, and you went on.

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Speaker 1: Tour with them.

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Speaker 2: No, I wasn't on that tour, but you did a

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Speaker 2: couple of spot dates I think with them.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I remember when the spot dates with Jay, but it

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Speaker 2: Because when I saw you, I think we was at

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Speaker 2: a Jersey stop. He came to a show and you

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Speaker 2: came out and I'm like, what fuck is this guy?

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Speaker 2: And they like, that's the new artist he on tour with.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, they trying to clip me, Like what?

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Speaker 2: So that's how I thought it was like they trying

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Speaker 2: to replace me.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that.

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Speaker 2: My guy just was there putting that work in and

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Speaker 2: I had to respect it, bro, because, like I said,

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Speaker 2: my first time seeing you, bro, you went out there,

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Speaker 2: no beat, no nothing, and spend some of the ill

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Speaker 2: this ship had the crowd going crazy and.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, sir, the fuck is this guy? So how

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Speaker 1: was that for you on to come up? Bro? Man?

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Speaker 1: It was a great experience.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Jay Z for allow me.

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Speaker 3: That platform, put me on his platform like that, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of people were thinking, like and I want

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Speaker 3: to set to reconstrate to everybody. Jay never let me

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Speaker 3: middle of his set. Yes, yes, every show he would

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Speaker 1: He never likes that. Go through your thing and then

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Speaker 3: He like prepped the crowd like, yo, I got my

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Speaker 1: Blah blah, hostile ripper or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And it was we had some great great so many

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Speaker 3: great great experience. I can't even can't even like go

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Speaker 1: That was just out of this world man, it was.

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Speaker 3: But the first time Jay put me on, I was

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Speaker 3: telling some of my followers back back home. I was

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Speaker 3: I I froze. I'll never forget yo. Jay had the

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Speaker 3: I got the mic, like, what the hell I'm gonna do, Like,

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Speaker 3: and Dame like rolled me the whole ride back. They

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Speaker 3: of nights later we went to Millersville, Pennsylvania to do

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Speaker 3: I didn't think he was gonna call me again. And

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Speaker 3: as they was walking off the stage, Dang was like, no,

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Speaker 3: how to rip in the night. And that's when Jay

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Speaker 1: To go. He's crowd was like no, no, no, he said,

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Speaker 1: all right, well I'm pret my man to rip.

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Speaker 3: Out and Blake I destroyd I know, I know it

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Speaker 3: No way, God is my witness. It was that crazy.

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Speaker 3: So we had some great experiences man, that he took

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Speaker 3: me to. That's when he told me, like, you could

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Speaker 1: Oh damn. Yeah, that's when he was really bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's where I got left. It wasn't it was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was zero. That's dope, man.

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Speaker 2: But how did how did you even come into meeting Jada?

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Speaker 2: He even knowing, like, Yo, this guy's ill, I could

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Speaker 2: bring him on my show, Like what was that interaction?

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Speaker 2: So what happened was it was Clark Man, rest in

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Speaker 2: peace to Clark k Man.

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Speaker 1: It was Clark Kent. Clark Kent.

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Speaker 3: We was working through him with this girl lady named

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Speaker 3: Gabrielle Smith. She used to work for job back in

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Speaker 1: And that's when I was with.

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Speaker 3: A group called Hardware and Clarke was working with us,

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Speaker 3: and he that's when he first introduced Jake because I

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Speaker 1: Nobody in the world better than me? Right right? That's

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Speaker 3: And Clark was like, Yo, I got this dude, He's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I know if I've never heard him call

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Speaker 1: What you call him? What's his name?

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Speaker 3: What's the guy from Virginia, the rapper name. I can't

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Speaker 3: some j records and I was like, wait, this niggas incredible,

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Speaker 3: So yo, I never forget. He's like he did that

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Speaker 3: remember that song bleak No, He's like he never made

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Speaker 3: it was like a demo demo joy if you read

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Speaker 1: Ice cube something. It was crazy.

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Speaker 3: He always had somehow so that so that was that's

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Speaker 3: what that was my introduction to who jay Z was.

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Speaker 3: And then we had a show at what was it

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Speaker 3: called Down Down Jack Jacob Javisoner and Jay was there

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Speaker 3: and he saw us perform live and he was like, yo,

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Speaker 3: them kids, it's incredible. So that's how that's how my

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Speaker 3: and he was with a group. What happened in that hardware?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? They doing it. They came back I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know who came back is k Mack. He had

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Speaker 1: the Coyler Ray.

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Speaker 3: He used to manage, Yeah, he managed Corla Ray and

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Speaker 3: Now some girl that's doing really good. She's doing really

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Speaker 3: good with her her songs now. So k Mak Grill

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Speaker 3: really doing his days he was with Missy and everything.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to k Mac, Yeah, he doing his thing heavy.

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Speaker 1: How did how did you come up with the name?

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Speaker 1: Hois the Ripper? I always wonder, Yo, that's so funny.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to KG from Noughty by nature, big shout

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Speaker 1: Gave me that name? No way? Yes he did, Yes

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Speaker 1: he did, because I had a rhym and I was.

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Speaker 3: I was mc hawes at the time, and I said,

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Speaker 1: How's the flipper? The lyrical pick some junk? Right?

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Speaker 3: And he took that, not Jack, how's the Ripper? Because

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Speaker 3: you know I used to say Jack the ripper, so

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Speaker 3: And I said, that's my name. That's gonna be my

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Speaker 3: name because it signified who I was, Like rich sages,

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Speaker 3: I ripped microphones, So that was that's how.

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Speaker 1: It's only a few a handful of MC's.

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Speaker 2: You meet around the world that got ripper in They

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Speaker 2: name as EMCs, and I ain't gonna lie all of

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Speaker 2: in Miami.

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Speaker 1: What Mike the Ripper, right, Mike Ripper, Well he was.

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Speaker 2: They talk about how ill crazy he was, and when

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Speaker 2: I when I first heard about him, I'm saying to myself, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: y'all need to meet my man, highest Ripper. God bless

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Speaker 2: Mike Ripper. You would have smoked. But yo, So what

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Speaker 1: As a lyricist like these niggas can't fuck with me? Man?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: High school? I mean since high school.

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Speaker 3: I think I was was confident and very strong about

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Speaker 3: the level of uh talent I had as a as

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Speaker 3: gonna be something serious the best with from there. I

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Speaker 3: never lost a talent show. I never lost a talent show.

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Speaker 3: That's that's ill.

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Speaker 1: I remember. I did a few talent shows. I never won.

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Speaker 1: I never won one. I came in second place once

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Speaker 1: and third ones.

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Speaker 2: I definitely never came in first because that's where niggas

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Speaker 2: used to be dancing on the bill too, right, right right,

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Speaker 2: I ain't have no skills like that, so I ain't

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Speaker 1: But as far as the rat, oh yeah, I came

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Speaker 1: in first and that. But there you go. It was

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Speaker 1: the skill chide right, right. I I only hit the

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Speaker 1: Now excuse me. I was young, and I was young

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they was like not ready for that at

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Speaker 3: Yeah out to hip hop too, because I heard you

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Speaker 2: Never he never gave me a beat. He called me

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Speaker 1: I think this beat for you, like I don't think him. Nah.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't checking for that. He was he was stayed

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Speaker 2: That's really who came through on my sessions, Lynda, just

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Speaker 1: Y'all right, players, fuck up? I fucked up, all right, players,

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Speaker 2: He don't got a church. He just talked in the churches.

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Speaker 2: So to me, he got a church. So we ain't

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Speaker 2: The only person gonna normline is the pastor and Jesus

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Speaker 2: Christ himself. Okay, but how did you make that transition

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Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, I'm a gospel recording artist, brother HAIs.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who the other it was two labels, though,

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Speaker 3: I had two deals on the table. But what happened

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Speaker 3: was September nineteenth. Never forget the date, two thousand and three.

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Speaker 3: You know I got hitting the drive by.

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Speaker 2: Shooting no way, no, hell no, I ain't know that

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Speaker 1: Have blake, I got shot bro no way, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Me word up? What the freak y'all doing Like I

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Speaker 3: And yeah, man, I was shot. I was conscious, but

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Speaker 3: They came backstage after the show said Yo, that song

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, my guy got it. He and he and

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Speaker 2: But the gospel rap like how you feel Like, what's

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Speaker 1: Mm.

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Speaker 3: So when I'm writing and when I'm coming up with

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Speaker 3: So that's that's my that's my angle on how I

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Speaker 2: I was like, you you basically answer my next question,

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Speaker 2: but like what's the it's do you think it's a

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Speaker 2: I gotta get the bag. I got to get to

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Speaker 2: the bag. But doing what you're doing, it's all about purpose.

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Speaker 1: There you go. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, Like, there you go, how did

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Speaker 2: you how did you separate the two because a lot

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Speaker 2: of people out here don't even know what they purpose is.

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Speaker 1: They just think their purpose is to get money. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think what happened for me is like

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Speaker 3: once once God spared me, like because the bullet missed

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Speaker 3: and died.

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Speaker 1: That's how my father died.

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Speaker 3: And I got shot in the chest and the bullet

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Speaker 3: God kept me. I knew he had kept me for

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Speaker 1: That's right, you know what I mean. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's how that went, man, That's that's what's upping. That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You inspired a whole generation of artists when it comes

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Speaker 2: down to freestyling.

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Speaker 1: Now with your word all of that, Man.

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00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,359
Speaker 2: What do you think the culture is missing when it

442
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 2: comes down to you know, not everybody. You know, everybody

443
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 2: defines living right in their own way. Everybody thought of righteous,

444
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 2: it's not it's everybody. What do you think how can

445
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 2: we you think fit that into the culture to where

446
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 2: these kids, Because these kids need something to believe.

447
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 3: You gotta speak their language, man, you gotta speak it,

448
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 3: speak their language, and you got to dig into the

449
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 3: root of where they're having these issues from these a

450
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 3: lot of these kids are traumatized from their upbringings to

451
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 3: you know, with their parents, things that happen to them

452
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 3: and as as children that they still live with that

453
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 3: they haven't faced. A lot of kids don't go to

454
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 3: therapy to that, you know, and communication.

455
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: A lot of kids don't talk.

456
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 3: They hold a lot of stuff in and they wait

457
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 3: for situations that happen to their life to just burst

458
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: out into all these different you know, different emotions you know.

459
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 1: What I mean.

460
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 3: So I think you just have to, you know, with

461
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 3: from that angle, you gotta really dig into the root

462
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 3: of what's going on with these kids, man, and talk

463
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: and talk about the issues that they're dealing with.

464
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 1: No, definitely, man.

465
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 2: I think it's like I always say, everybody have a gift.

466
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 2: Just have to find out what it is and find out.

467
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: How to use it. That's facts, you know what I mean.

468
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: So, like, when you're out and you're doing these speeches,

469
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 2: do you do you do speeches at schools or just that.

470
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 3: I mostly like to performances and I'll speak in between

471
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: the songs, you know what I mean.

472
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: I like, i'll talk.

473
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 3: I'll give the the reason behind this song or why

474
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 3: it was written or whatever the case may be.

475
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: But I really just talk through my through my songs. Man.

476
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: When I perform the high schools and everything, it's crazy.

477
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: What you what you would say?

478
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 2: Your main message is that you want the people because

479
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 2: it's adults, children, everything there, and what you want them

480
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 2: to walk away with.

481
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: The message like, get a relationship with God. Get really

482
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 3: whoever your God is, My God is Jesus Christ. I'm

483
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 3: not knocking nobody's religion, but get a relationship with God.

484
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: Cause a lot of people feel they don't have nobody

485
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: who they feel I love them. So if you know

486
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: you believe in God, to have a God that you love,

487
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 3: that you know, and that know that loves you.

488
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: You'll be all right. Man, You'll be all right.

489
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: You have someone to go to talk to. See man,

490
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: you should be a pastor. MANI me in church to

491
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: go to man. I got to know the pastor.

492
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: Man.

493
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: These pastors now where Jordan's I know they're right. I said, listen,

494
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: none of us is perfect bleak, but you can't have

495
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: We're all trying to walk right. Listen, you cannot be

496
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,479
Speaker 2: is heavy out here man, James, Like, come on, I

497
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: can't even say that.

498
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: You can't blieve it. Don't say it. It's just you

499
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: know you can't.

500
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: Like, where's the formality of how you dress for child?

501
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't tell me.

502
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 2: The Bible says nowhere, please do not be you not

503
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: conformed to Jordan's.

504
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: Lord.

505
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 2: So the next speech, I want to see you in

506
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Speaker 2: the FEELI of lawsuit.

507
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: You. So I just performed yesterday and I had I had.

508
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: On jor, I had on on jeans, and I had

509
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: on joys. Even if you not a pastor, I'm not,

510
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: but I was giving the word through. Man, I love

511
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: what you're doing. Mess, what's up yo? At any moment,

512
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: anytime in this journey that we've been on in life,

513
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 2: do you think it's a moment you ever felt like

514
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: you wanted to give up?

515
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: Like that music in total.

516
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: Man, that I don't even want to go down that route.

517
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 3: That's that's an emotional bro, That's that's an emotional.

518
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: Role to go down.

519
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, blak, I really have, Like I really a

520
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 3: lot of times I felt like I felt like I

521
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: gave up on myself.

522
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: It's like.

523
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: I dealt with rejection a lot. I went through depression.

524
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: I felt like I was in my own way.

525
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: It was a lot of things that I went through.

526
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: Man.

527
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 3: That that so many emotional roller coasters that I went down, Man,

528
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: because of different seasons of my life feeling like this

529
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: should be me.

530
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: You know, this should be me. I should be here,

531
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: I should.

532
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: Be there because the gift never never subsided, like it

533
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: never weakened, Like it just got stronger. Like I still

534
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 3: was top tier in every aspect of my gift.

535
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: Like I can perform.

536
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: At a club on Saturday and do a hostel ripper

537
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: record and have a crowd, go crazy and go Tomorrow's

538
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: Sunday morning and perform at a church and everybody be

539
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: in worship.

540
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: Not too many people can do that.

541
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: Heck, no, no, no, no, you're right.

542
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 3: So, like, just knowing that about myself and just it

543
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: not it just not you know, just never getting over

544
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: that hump.

545
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: It made me like one of just.

546
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 3: Like because then then then then.

547
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: Of fear m stepped in.

548
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: Now it's the fear of having all these situations you

549
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 3: had in the past that never worked out for you.

550
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: You just jumping out there, just jumping in the middle water,

551
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: hoping something gonna happen, and fear and just scared to

552
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: try because you don't want to deal with that again.

553
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: You don't want to go through that experience.

554
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: But like they say, it's almost like love.

555
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: I'd rather I'd rather have have had loved than to

556
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: not have had it, you know what I'm saying. So

557
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: it's like you have to try. Nothing is guaranteed, nothing

558
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: in this world. Like that's one thing that be high

559
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: My manager back in the day, you know what i mean.

560
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: He ust Toll always.

561
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: Say to me like this is just a dream, you

562
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like Jay was signed the Priority

563
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: records at this time, and he was like, yore bleak,

564
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: this is just a dream Rockefeller records.

565
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: It may not never happen.

566
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: How about Jay dropped these records and nobody give a

567
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: fuck who he is. Rockafell might not never come to fluition,

568
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: So you got to start thinking of life if that

569
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: never happens. And I remember looking at him like I

570
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: don't think I could think that far right, you know,

571
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: because it's like if this don't happen, then I don't

572
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: know what else to do, you know what I mean.

573
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: So it's like you don't know, you uncertain, but you

574
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: have to try.

575
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: Like I said, people.

576
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: Look at it and be like, yo, bleep, you had

577
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: the illness career, you had this, but then you get

578
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: niggas up there that be like yo, he was the

579
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: Wackens nigga on Rockefeller like, and it's like, at least

580
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: I threw my hat in the race, you know what

581
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And that's why I say about you, bro,

582
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: like to you, you probably didn't think Yo, I got

583
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: as far as I needed to, but God put you

584
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: right where you were supposed to be. Like that's one

585
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: thing I look at it like, yeah, I wanted to

586
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: be triple platinum.

587
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: I was one of them, all this struggling to go go.

588
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, But that's where I was,

589
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: right where I was supposed to be to get me

590
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: to these moments, you know what I'm saying.

591
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: So don't never think doubt yourself. Bro Ever it happens.

592
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: Told you outside you inspired me, bro, seeing what you

593
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: used to do, you made me.

594
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: You made me realize punchlines mean.

595
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: A motherfucking big factor because you used to go up

596
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: there and say shit and the whole crowd.

597
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: Like h be like god damn, he murdered that.

598
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: So you know, like whether it's one or one million,

599
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: the job was done, bro, you know what I'm saying,

600
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: So don't think it wasn't.

601
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: The job was done.

602
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: You accomplished what you needed to accomplish. That's why we're

603
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: sitting here talking because you affected me. God knows what

604
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 2: other person in the crowd or any other show you

605
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: did that. You affected that Solf speaking about you the

606
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: same way. They just don't have the cameras on it,

607
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So, and the job is done, bro,

608
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: don't ever don't ever think it's not my gee one

609
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: hundred percent. So with that, it's sad though, like going

610
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: through that dark tim like you said, the fear and

611
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: all that.

612
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: What what advice.

613
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: Would you give a young and up and coming artist

614
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: who might doubt himself the same.

615
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: Way like you just said, don't doubt yourself. You answered

616
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: the question like, don't doubt yourself. Take the risk, take

617
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: the risks. That's I mean, the worst thing can happen,

618
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: is it not happened? That's whatever you know, you never

619
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: know it won't happen until you try, That's right. So

620
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 3: just you got to take the risk.

621
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: And did faith play a big part in reshaping this path?

622
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: Like your whole new path was your faith? Yeah, that's

623
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: always yeah.

624
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: I always had my faith, man, That's that's what that

625
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: ket that keeps me keep my head up, bro, you

626
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: know that.

627
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: And my daughter you know what I mean?

628
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: My faith in God and my daughters the two things

629
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: that keep me going, you.

630
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

631
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, and like God blessed me man, because like

632
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: I was, I don't even know if you know, remember

633
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: I did the song for Roy Jones, y'all must have forgot.

634
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: I forgot you wrote that word.

635
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: I forgot you wrote that, y'all, I must have forgot

636
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: not niggas n yo.

637
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: You have that ship. That's my ship too. I must

638
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: have forgot you killed damn bro word. Yeah.

639
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: So I had had the whole situation with Roy Jones. Yeah,

640
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: and a lot.

641
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: Of people don't know. I wrote the album for Bill Cosby.

642
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby was trying to spink nah like like.

643
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Nah, he was just like the face behind it.

644
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: Actually, my man not the same the man that my man,

645
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: my man Jason is here, my man that I did

646
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: the album with me and him did it together. You

647
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: can't sell us jello and then be like I was

648
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: on the blitter Nah, he was. He was putting a

649
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: positive message out there, like, you know, speaking hope, trying

650
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: to you know, help the community, you know what I mean.

651
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: And we put an album out well when it never

652
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: came it really never came out right, sort of sort

653
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: of trying. We performed the jay Leno and Anything No

654
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: Way jay Leno with Major. We did the NBC Morning Show.

655
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: We did a few things with the Bill cos It's

656
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: called cos Naradiardy.

657
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: Cos We was trying to play friend. Yeah, we did.

658
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby became the North sat down with us.

659
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: In the room and just when they started watching Bill

660
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: he had was like, we gotta get him out of in.

661
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: That's when they got That's when they got hot. Once

662
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: you get into the rap game, they give it rappers.

663
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: Rico then was the first.

664
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: We just didn't know.

665
00:30:52,160 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: Newark got him, Abu kas Lariati, I would have been

666
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: like watching Daddy, watching.

667
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: Over the crazy. That's a lot.

668
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: What do you think defines authenticity and hip hop today?

669
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: Just expressing your true self who you are. I think

670
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: that's it. When you you're just being.

671
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: Your true self.

672
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: You're not You're not trying to portray yourself to be

673
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: something you're not. You're just being very vulnerable, very open

674
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: with who you are, what type of person you are,

675
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: you know from from your.

676
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: Strengths and your weaknesses. Just being who you are. That's authenticity.

677
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: Your authenticity, man, that's it, like expressing who you are.

678
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 2: A lot of these artists today say stuff just I

679
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: think they to me, I feel like a lot of

680
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: rappers just say things to just rhyme, just to sound cool,

681
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: And I don't think they think about the consequences of

682
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: their words, Like you know what I mean, Like how

683
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: serious is something? Because you know, like you said, when

684
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: you're doing the gospel, you talking with souls, you talking

685
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: about people life, So you you know, you got to

686
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: the consequences of your actions and your words.

687
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: It's serious, soul.

688
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: What would you say to people that you think should

689
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: be more conscious.

690
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: That life and death is in the power of the tongue.

691
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's what they need to know and understand.

692
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: That's a fact. Speak life. You gotta speak Life's gonna

693
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: come exactly. Fact. To be very conscious of your words

694
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: because words have power. That's a fact. Yeah, man, yeah, man.

695
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: So do you ever see like the spiritual impact like

696
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: things that you've been through, Like do you think that whatever?

697
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: Like I asked you this earlier, but I think it's

698
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: a way for some type of conscience back into our culture.

699
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: I think that's where we lost our way. It's no consciousness.

700
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: People just shooting in the dog, eyes closed, hoping anything hit.

701
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: So do you feel like we can ever restore the

702
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: feeling man? Like, if just honesty and music.

703
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: It's possible.

704
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: I think I think it depends on the the the

705
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: music itself, Like it has to be dope at the

706
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: end of the day, bleak. There has to be something

707
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: that's very catchy p people gotta be able to relate

708
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: to it. It has to pull on the heart strings

709
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: of people like you have to make those type of

710
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: records with.

711
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: You saying that a artist today he got a talent show.

712
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: Say this right. I'm a young kid right now.

713
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: Thirteen fourteen years old, I got a talent show coming up.

714
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, I gotta kill this shit dog M

715
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: I gotta write the illis bars, I got what what

716
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: what would you give? What advice would you give that kid?

717
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: The m to ensure like the lembo? Nah, this is

718
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: how you going and shut it down? Sign up to

719
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: my rights Academy.

720
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: Shout out, because we started one today. Yeah, they need to.

721
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: I'll get you right, Get you right right, ad, we

722
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: just got the day NFC.

723
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: Get you right right, Amy signed up. No, don't worry. Drive.

724
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: As soon as we said it, your guys in the

725
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: back drew up the LLC paper that right now.

726
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: You know you can do LLC on your phone right now.

727
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: It's good, It's done right. But now for real, man, what.

728
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: What would you what type of advice would you give

729
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: that kid at the Writer's Academy.

730
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: I would just teach him how to just just have

731
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: to be like when you when you're performing in front

732
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: of people, you have to have presents and you have

733
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: to say things that are impactful. Like I said, you

734
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: have to pull on heart strings of the people. You

735
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: can't say nothing to have people that is they're like,

736
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: what is he talking about? You have to you have

737
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: to come from that angle. I always try to come

738
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: from that angle. I'm pulling on the heart strings. I'm

739
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: saying something that make people be like, wait a minute,

740
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: what what's this. You have to have that type of

741
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: mindset when you're coming. When you talk about performing in

742
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: front of people, getting a crowd to like you is

743
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: not that it's or to enjoy your performance is one

744
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 3: of the hardest things to this day and most a

745
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: lot of artists that you love and know still have

746
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: trouble with that. They still can't rip a show. They

747
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: songs like really Max, They're like, it's the songs that

748
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 3: make their performances get by it, ain't there.

749
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 2: These these kids perform over the MP three they don't

750
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: even yes and they instrumental, They wrap over their own bracket. Yes,

751
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: that's insane to me, that's so crazy. That's like, yeah,

752
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: that's like going to the club into just playing Apple

753
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: music at the show, like fuck it, huh right? I

754
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: know MILLI Vanilly pissed. I know they somewhere like y'all ship.

755
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: In me I was doing this year. Put these niggas on.

756
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: They need some money.

757
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: They that's a fact. So Yo, when the Hostile Ripper

758
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: chapter get told, m hmm, how do you ensure?

759
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: Do you feel like people gonna have to read it twice? Definitely?

760
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: That's how real it is.

761
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: Definitely, I believe so definitely, I believe so, bro because

762
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: like I said, you played the major role in the

763
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: in the beginning the formation of Rockefeller. Because it's like

764
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: soon as I came off the promo run with Rail

765
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: and Diamonds in the Rough, they left me in the hood.

766
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: Y'all went on tour and then we were shooting hard

767
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 2: knocked like video and Marcy Wild. Then we in the club,

768
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: they throwing bottles. We had the ill fight with Fat

769
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: Joe and don't remember. Oh yeah that was crazy, yo.

770
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: That was bottle ran. We ran out together. I was like,

771
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: I like, don't run, don't run. Don't we get out

772
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: the club? Nobody was there. We likedy hat Yo. It

773
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: was bottle Wars like a motherfucker. Now look fat Joe down.

774
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: I just seen them today. Yeah, they want me to

775
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: come on the show. I told him we're gonna we

776
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: want Joe. I'm gonna be up there.

777
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm captain, gonna even hold you.

778
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: Your podcast interviews be so dope, Yo, you should do

779
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: it like a podcast or just just going to different

780
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: podcasts because Yo, your junk is so like entertaining and like, yeah, intriguing,

781
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: like everybody be like your stories be immaculate.

782
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: I try, I try. I just try to tell it

783
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: like it is me real though. That's what that's what

784
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: so dope about what go crazy?

785
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: Jay told me years ago, right, and it was like, Yo,

786
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: why you don't put your personality in your music? And

787
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, what.

788
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: You mean when you cut that micro I owe you

789
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson nigga talk about I'm not fucking curding. I'm

790
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: not a rapper, like I'm not no comedian. But when

791
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: we you know, we.

792
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: Joking and Ana Jay said, Yo, you don't get it man,

793
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: When the world see your personality bleak, your life gonna change.

794
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: Wow, you got it, you got it, you guess. I

795
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: guess this is the way become intrigued. To see the

796
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: new joint.

797
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: You gotta coming on drink chance Because I saw the

798
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: little content, I was like.

799
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: Doing it again, he's doing it again.

800
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, man, That's why they keep having you because

801
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: you really like you do very well with.

802
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: The appreciated man. Yo. I had Nick Cannon on here.

803
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: He looked at me and was like, Yo, man, you

804
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: really got a talent for this ship. Like he looked

805
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: at me like, nigg I think I gotta have you

806
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: on my show now.

807
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Like words, so people say this for my calling.

808
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: You're very like You're very a very organic and genuine person.

809
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: I never forget the first time, like because every time

810
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: I used to get around Jay, I was nervous like

811
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: I used to be. I get around Jay, and I

812
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: used to be nervous.

813
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: I remember one day, I don't remember.

814
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: He was at the office or something and something happened

815
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: and you said something and you snapped that Ja.

816
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: No way like Nigga blah blah blah blah. You talk,

817
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: you talk and J like nigga blah blah. Like y'all

818
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: went back and forth. Blood.

819
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like, oh, snap, this nigga snapped that

820
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: ja Like they really got said, they really got a relationship,

821
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: like we still be on it.

822
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: Man, I just got a relationship. Show my daughter because

823
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, hope be on some bullshit. Hope.

824
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: Don't you want to take pictures if it's not like

825
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: a professional you pull out that iPhone like it gotta

826
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: be professional, Like there's a professional camera there. He's gonna

827
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: snap away the iPhone, piggy looking at you like you

828
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: know better. But my daughter ran down on him. It

829
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: was like I want a picture. So I looked at

830
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: him like, don't do.

831
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: Sh fi right. So that was cool. But man, Jane's

832
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: crazy with certain ship. Man.

833
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: He definitely we definitely always had that marsy relationship and

834
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: I love that we never let that waiver. No matter

835
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: how famous or whatever nigga's been through, Nigga's still going

836
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: to see you and be like, hey, you sucked well,

837
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 2: you soft nigga.

838
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: You ain't doing nothing, You ain't out here, you soft.

839
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: I love that about Jay. So what do you think

840
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: you want to be remembered for?

841
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: You want to be remembered for you think your transition

842
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: now or the bars.

843
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: How you was the bar? God?

844
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: I want to just be remembered for brother hosta ripper,

845
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: Like I just want every aspect of my talent, you

846
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

847
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: It's not just about just the bars, like.

848
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 3: Because I've I've impacted so many people on the gospel side.

849
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: So I would never just want to be like, oh,

850
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: just remember me for my bars.

851
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: No, remember me.

852
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: How I want to be remembered for how I touched

853
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 3: your life. M You know what I mean, the way

854
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 3: the impact that I had on you. All the testimonies

855
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: that came into my inboxes from different parents on how

856
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: my music got they your one dude delivered his baby.

857
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 3: His they had a do our labor type thing where

858
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: they the mother was sitting in the water type thing.

859
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: Yes, they get the water birth. I don't know what

860
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: it's called.

861
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: But he's like, he's playing my music in the background

862
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: while his wife is giving birth to their child.

863
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: That's insane, bro.

864
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: And then you didn't and then you're thinking you didn't

865
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 2: achieve what you were supposed to and that jump was crazy. Man.

866
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: Look at that, bro, incredible. I never they're not playing

867
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: nothing in the listen, trust me, There's no song I

868
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: ever made that's getting played during childbirth.

869
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: So so stuff like.

870
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: That, man, it's like, I don't want to be remembered

871
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: for the impact I had on people lives.

872
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: Man, And that's that's a blessing.

873
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: That's the blessing right there, man, Like I want to

874
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: know excuse me. My definition of success to me is

875
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: health and the smell you put.

876
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: On people faces. Mm hmm. Well, how do you define

877
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: success to you? Good question? Success is wow, watching my

878
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: daughter graduate from college? Cool?

879
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: Nah, let's changed it because I'm about to start getting emotional.

880
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: Nah nah, I don't.

881
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: Make it funny for you, because success to me, I

882
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: watched my son graduate, but I ain't a graduated. Just

883
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: ask me to help him get a job. So it's like,

884
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: hold on how much success is?

885
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: Hold on a little bit of success? Like that sucks

886
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: right now? Like we need to find sess now, Like it's.

887
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 3: Outside of the like music for me, Like it's like

888
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: me as a man, me as a father, you know

889
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: what I mean, just watching my daughter grow up from childhood,

890
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: you know, like me two inches from almost not being

891
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: able to watch her whole journey from a child to

892
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: an adult because I could have lost my life.

893
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

894
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: Just to see her graduate from college, that's a blessing,

895
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And with high with high

896
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: honors and all of that, and and and actually moving

897
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: to her own place and continue school and go to

898
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: grad school to finish to get her masters.

899
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: Man, that's the success. I like, that's what That's what

900
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: success is for me watching my daughter and that's what

901
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: it is. Man. But now I know that you got

902
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: a daughter.

903
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: That graduated school, that moved out, did all that, So

904
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: you one more name on my list for therapy.

905
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: Cause my daughter is seven. All I'm doing is buying guns.

906
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: Every year, I'm buying a new gun. Bro.

907
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, i'ma be honest with you. Blieve

908
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: your daughter seven years old. I'm gonna keep the straight.

909
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: G with you.

910
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: You got about four years it's over. No, i'm'a give

911
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: you six six.

912
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: Five, five by five, I give you five by tashi twelve.

913
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: It's over. It's gonna hurt. I know who blink is

914
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: gonna hurt. She ain't beat for daddy no more. I

915
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: know she ain't gonna be beat no more. Yo, She's

916
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: gonna have her own little circle of friends. Dude, you're

917
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: gonna be a rap man. I heard this though before,

918
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: when when I first met my wife and my son,

919
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 2: was like.

920
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: They come back though, Yeah. My son was like.

921
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: Six years old when I first met my wife, and

922
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: she was like, damn, that's dope. The relationship you got

923
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: with your son. She was like, you better enjoy that

924
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: because it's like five six years.

925
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: All that hanging out with daddy on the weekend. He

926
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: gonna be like, Pop.

927
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm with my friends. Can we hang out next weekend?

928
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: And then next week it go turn into I forgot

929
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: that And that's how it is today. I gotta call

930
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: him to be like, Yo, what's something homie. You ain't

931
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: checking out Pop's doing? He called me, and.

932
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: I know, yep, that's what tapping. He wants that. Zem right,

933
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: that's all they be wanting. He want that zam nah man. Man.

934
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: I appreciate you pulling up man, Like I.

935
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: Said, Bro, you've been a staple the Rockefeller.

936
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: Without you, it wouldn't have been the direction I think

937
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: I went in my career.

938
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: You played a major role in.

939
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: My life, not only as a friend, as a label mate.

940
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: You know, the shows, everything we've been through, the tours,

941
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: and to see what you're doing now, Bro, I commend

942
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: everything you do.

943
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: Bro.

944
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, you know, and I want to be

945
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 2: like me and Bleak wasn't in communication before he even

946
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: stayed in my name on that breakfast club.

947
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: We weren't even in carge.

948
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 3: This was just genuine, genuinely just mentioning me and giving

949
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: me my flowers. And I'm like, super like grateful for.

950
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: That man, man, And that's why when you hit me,

951
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, you got to pull up the rock

952
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: solid man like Bro, That's what this platform is for. Man,

953
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: Brothers like you myself, the ones who stayed the same,

954
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: never waving.

955
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: You know, we shot.

956
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: The shot might have not hit the target, but it

957
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: landed somewhere. Like I said, when there's wet weather, it's

958
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: one or one million.

959
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Job was done.

960
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 2: Because when you first started rapping, Bro, you ain't think

961
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: nobody was you know, we ain't wasn't guaranteed exactly. So

962
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: they even accomplished ten people, twenty people like yo that.

963
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: You won my gene.

964
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: I appreciate that word up man, and I'm glad to

965
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: see you still doing your thing, my brother.

966
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: Let them know where they could find you. We're giving

967
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: a good word at on the beat.

968
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: Like I said, I got six albums that's on iTunes. Man,

969
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 3: Just look under brother has hwes is spelled h a HZ.

970
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: It should be spelled on on the YouTube channel. Anyway,

971
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: we're gonna We're gonna have it spelled. Don't worry. We

972
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: got a little bit of brad on here. Now we're

973
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: gonna put your name under you.

974
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: Right.

975
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: So brother has on all platforms, Brother Underscore, highs on,

976
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 2: I g follow me, follow me on Facebook and yeah.

977
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: That's about it man. And I'm working on my last album.

978
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 3: Last album is called I hope this helps look out

979
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: for that in twenty twenty six.

980
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a big record, big big record. Come on,

981
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: let me get a verse.

982
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: I think I got some little bit of I got

983
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: a little bit of righteousness to talk a little something.

984
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go gangster in them. I'll give him

985
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: some righteous regular freestyle, no curses. You got something you

986
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: got yeah? Okay go nah not right now? No, I

987
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: got it.

988
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: Like you said, I gotta be thought with souls, right,

989
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: you got strategic. I won't be the soul Statua want

990
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: be the soul hitler.

991
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: Yo. And with that being said, that's a rat man.

992
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: We appreciate Douce always being the sponsor holding us down.

993
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: We appreciate drink Champs Black Effects, our Heart and I

994
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: definitely appreciate my brothers at Home Team.

995
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: Let me get the church mad Yo.

996
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: He turned into wine May. We're doing the same we

997
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: over had Home Team. You need them fresh kicks, You

998
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: need that drinp pull up the home ting.

999
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, don't be scared of Dykeman though it's rock solid.

1000
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: We outside Yeah. Peace.

1001
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

1002
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at and

1003
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 2: you can follow me on any social media platform under

1004
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: the name Memphis Bleach.

1005
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: You see anybody fraud in flagging