1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What ends up? 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Straight Fire Fan, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Thursday, 3 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: March thirtieth. Your Boys Back Baby. Oh yeah? Fired up 4 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: last night. Played soccer for the first time in about 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: a month. You know, I've been focusing on getting healthy 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: after that basketball injury and played soccer last night. Felt good. 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Woke up this morning, felt good, you know, good to 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: getting a little run. My problem with playing sports at 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: night is then you're all you're all jacked up, your 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: body's all excited, tough to go fall back asleep, but uh, 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, nothing a couple of sleepy pills can't do 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: putting putting me to bed. Last night, I did get 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: to watch a little fun NBA action. We'll get into it. 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: The NBA is just crazy and I don't even though 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: totally how to describe it. I'll get to it in 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: a moment, but I do want to need to pump 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: up our guests. So this guy's been kind of blowing 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: up over at Fox covering a lot of college basketball announcing. 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: And his name is John Fanta, and he's super nice guy. 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: They love him at Fox Fox Sports FS one just 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: as a great guy, passionate about college basketball, a support 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: that kind of you know, seems to be fading, and 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: he gives some really good journalism advice. I know a 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: lot of kids getting ready to graduate college list under 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: this podcast, always asking Hey, can I get an internship? 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: What do I need to do? How do I get 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: where you are? And John he's a rapid riser. I'm 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: listened to the stunt in my voice when he reveals 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: when he graduated college. Just just wait for that, So 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: John Fanta, you'll really enjoy it. We'll get to him shortly. 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: But last night in the NBA, they're all crazy at 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: this point, right, the NBA in the Western Conference is 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: so jumbled that as of right this moment, heading into 34 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: the slate of Thursday night, which is basically only two games. Right, 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: Thursday Night's supposed to be a Marque night. There's only 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: two games tonight whatever, not really worth getting excited about. However, 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: when you look at the standings currently, the Timberwolve are seven. 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: They would face the Lakers in a play in game. 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Then you have nine and ten are the Pelicans in thunder. 40 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: One game out in eleventh is the Dallas Mavericks after 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: a loss they collapse in the fourth last night in 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: Filthy Delphia, James Harden had a good fourth quarter and 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: the MAVs folded. And they're a game back. They've played 44 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: seventy seven games, there's five games left. They're one game out. 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: They're behind the zion lest Pelicans and the thunder who 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: won at basically the buzzer put back by the rookie 47 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: from Santa Claro with less than a second to go. 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: They get the dub and they are a half game 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: back of the Pelicans and a full game up on Dallas. 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm getting worried about the MAVs. Guys. No Luca in 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs, yikes, asked for the Lakers. Nice win over 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: the Bulls. You know, you know I love looking at 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: the box scores after the game, and there's so if 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: you watch the highlights, so much was made of Patrick Beverley. 55 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: Oh look at Patrick Beverley to go for the lay up, 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: and Lebron told him hell no, hell no. And then 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley like knocked to pass away from Lebron and 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: did the Mutumbo fingerwag. And then Austin Reeves went to 59 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: the rack on Pat Bev and hit him with a 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: two small. You're like, jeez, Patrick Beverley was really heavily 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: involved in this game. Then you go to the box score, 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: You're like, twenty five minutes, oh for five, shooting over 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: five from three, minus thirty two. Patrick Beverley, who said 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: he was going to ruin the Lakers season in twenty 65 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: five minutes, was minus thirty two. Just wrap your head 66 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: around that. My guy, Zach Lavine did not have a 67 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: good audition for the Lakers. Sixteen points only over two 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: from deep. I'll say this, guys, the Austin Reeves come 69 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: up has been really fun to watch. And you know, 70 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: we've been all over this, We've been I've been hyping 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves since he was an Oklahoma Gonzaga matchup two 72 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: years ago in the NSA Tournament. Reeves was given it 73 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: to that undefeated Gonzaga team. I mean, everything they had, 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: they he was given it to him. And I'll be honest, 75 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: I thought Reeves was an NBA guy and he went undrafted. 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: You don't listen, slender white guy. What position is he? 77 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: You can't put him in a box. All of a 78 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: sudden he goes undrafted, Lakers scoop him just twenty nine minutes, 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: you know, seven of eight shooting nineteen points, five assists, 80 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: one turnover, plus twenty eight Like Austin Reeves is just 81 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: playing out of his mind right now. But this is 82 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: the game. You know, Lebron's starting to get back twenty 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: five points in thirty one minutes. Anthony Davis, though, I 84 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: thought was the story. And this is always going to 85 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: be my beef with Anthony Davis. Is he shooting threes 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: and fadeaways or is he getting to the line. Anthony 87 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Davis attempted one three pointer, he made it. He attempted 88 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: fourteen foul shots. That's the Anthony Davis that makes the 89 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: Laker scary when a d is inside and getting to 90 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: the free throw line and putting pressure on your bigs. 91 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: That's the Anthony Davis that can lead the Lakers to 92 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: the promised Land, Lebron a d if they can get 93 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: good backcourt play from DeAngelo Russell. Yes, I De'angelo Russell, 94 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, Jared Vanderbilt, you know his role. And then 95 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: coming off the bench. Now, Troy Brown has now been 96 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: relegated to the bench. You see, I've been calling for 97 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: that for a while. It took him a little bit 98 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: longer than I anticipated. Troy Brown now relegated to Benji, 99 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: but it's Lonnie Walker is like garbage time Molik Beasley, 100 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: remember they loved him, Ruey Hachima. These are like minor 101 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: role players and they were starting for the Lakers for 102 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: a while. So this team, Listen, I love being wrong 103 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: about Lebron because that means we get more Lebron. And 104 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: if they get in the playoffs as the seventh seed, 105 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: they would open against the Yes, the Memphis Grizzlies. Folks, 106 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: you know you want to see that Dylan Brooks versus 107 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: Lebron because the Kings officially got in the playoffs. But 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna catch Memphis for two. And 109 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: you don't really want to face Denver in the first round. Now, 110 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: the Lakers. The only argument for the Lakers to face 111 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: Denver is that, you know, essentially the Lakers are as 112 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: healthy as they're going to be in the first round. 113 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: Will they make it to the second round healthy? I 114 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: don't know, but a healthy Lakers in the first round, 115 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a load for somebody. And I would 116 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: love it if they knocked out John Morant and Memphis. 117 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: Now that would be a heated series. No Brandon Clark 118 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: for Memphis, No Steven Adams, it doesn't look like he's 119 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: not back yet. Anthony Davis first, Jaren Jackson will not 120 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: be easy that listen, That's gonna be a pretty damn 121 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: good series if it happens. Now the late A lot 122 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: of basketball left to be played, but it's just so 123 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: confusing at the top and the bottom of the West, 124 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: well not the top of the West, just the bottom 125 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: of the West currently Phoenix and the paper Clips. I 126 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: know somebody's gonna listen to this and hit me up 127 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: and be like, what no love for Russell Westbrook, Because 128 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: here's how it works. If Russell Westbrook has a good game, 129 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: you have to talk about it. If he doesn't play well, 130 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: well he didn't have a good game, but you have 131 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: to talk about it if he shows out. Russ had 132 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: a good game, thirty six points, ten assis, he was 133 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: five for five from three, essentially an out of body experience, 134 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: and they beat up on the group. A really good performance. 135 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Congratulations Russell Westbrook. The paper Clips are now two and 136 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: oh against the Grizzlies. They have another one against them 137 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: on Friday night. Clippers, are they peaking without Paul George 138 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: are they could they be We'll see, not totally buying it. 139 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard did not even play and they beat the Grizzlies, 140 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: who had John Morant and Dylan Brooks but no Jaren 141 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: Jackson last night. So NBA we did a little bit 142 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: on it. We'll get to college hoops with John Fanta 143 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: of Fox Sports and FS one. Fox Sports Radio has 144 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 145 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and 146 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: within the iHeartRadio app. Search f SR to listen live. 147 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes 148 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: to sports. I know what sports dance want, but for 149 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. Let's 150 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: just say I know a guy who knows the guy 151 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into straight fire. 152 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: A guy who's really blown up during March badness. He's 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: been broadcasting college hoops for Fox Sports. He was at 154 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: the Big East Digital Network. I mean, is there any 155 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: job John Fanta has not had? How are you man, Jason? 156 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: It's great to be with you. I'm doing well. Happy 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: Final four week and hey, as you know, whatever pays 158 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: the bills, my friend, I've been blessed to have some 159 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: great opportunities, and college basketball has been a lot of 160 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: fun to cover here in recent years, and I'm looking 161 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: forward to this weekend in Houston certainly a different Yes, yeah, 162 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: we'll get to that shortly. But John, I don't know, 163 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: Like maybe it's because a lot of college kids are 164 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: getting set to graduate. But I keep getting asked about, Hey, 165 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: you got any jobs at Fox, and like, how did 166 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: you get where you are? I'm just curious. Obviously you've 167 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: had a rapid assent here to in college hoops, But 168 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: when you were coming out of school, did you think, 169 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: like I want to be an announcer, I want to 170 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: be a writer, like I want to like was podcasting 171 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: even really a thing when you were getting out of school? 172 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: So I grew up on the west side of Cleveland, 173 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: And when you grew up in Cleveland, it's Brown's Indians 174 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: now Guardians Calves. Religiously, I mean, you just eat, briefe, sleep, 175 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: die all these teams, and for a long time it 176 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: was depressing. I feel like all three franchises are in 177 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: a relatively good enough state. So but that's really what 178 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: I grew up on. So I knew early on that 179 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to do this. I just thought it was 180 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: so cool that people talked about it for a living. 181 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: I thought, man, I'd like to do that someday. And 182 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: I went to syn Ignatious High School in Cleveland. Some 183 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: folks might be familiar with that football powerhouse among others. 184 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: And then I was looking for my undergrad for college 185 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: and I ended up at Seaton Hall, I near the 186 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: metropolitan area. I thought, hey, there's there's gotta be there's 187 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: gotta be some good opportunities professionally where I could maybe 188 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: get in certain into the the professional world, whether it 189 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: be internships or just relationships. And I thought over in 190 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: bigg East basketball and Madison Square Garden could maybe allow 191 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: me to get noticed as a student. Oh yeah, But 192 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: I think for me, it was all about a couple 193 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: of things. Number One, saying yes to any role, like 194 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: whether you whether you're being asked to be on the air, 195 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: or whether you're being asked to run a camera or 196 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: be the utility guy on a student run broadcast, or 197 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: if you're just out of school being asked to produce 198 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: a show, doing something behind the scenes, just say yes. 199 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: You have no idea where it could lead you to 200 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: it could lead you to a relationship with somebody that 201 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: think clicks for that next opportunity. And it's just been 202 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: my dad always told me two things. Number One, you've 203 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: got to be able to say, Okay, how am I 204 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: around people? Do I walk up to somebody and ask 205 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: them for an opportunity? Or do I walk up and 206 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: actually get to know them and actually gets as abasing relationship. 207 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: You want to have a good enough relationships that you 208 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: get to the point where you can make the quote 209 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: unquote uncomfortable ask, but they've built a trust in you 210 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: so that they'll take that and they'll help you out. 211 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: And then number two, you can control how hard you work. 212 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: You might not control whether you whether you get an 213 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: opportunity or not, but if you put your head down, 214 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: you work and you stay humble while doing it, good 215 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: things will happen. And that for me, that's kind of 216 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: been the mentality. I've been fortunate, you still got to 217 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: catch some luck, you know. It's like like Jay Wright 218 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: says on these final four runs that he had recently, 219 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: He's like, look, we gotta we gotta get the bounce 220 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: of a ball. We gotta catch a little bit of 221 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: luck here or there. You gotta get lucky sometimes, but 222 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: you gotta put yourself in a position to be in position. 223 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: When you were at Seaton Hall, was that the what 224 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: the Bobby Gonzalez, Era Lewis or Willard which which coach? 225 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: Because I'm a big Big East guy. Yeah, I graduated 226 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: college twenty seventeen. What twenty set like five six years ago? Yeah, 227 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh wow, Oh goodness, gracious, you are 228 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: on a massive rise. Thank You're not even thirty years 229 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: old and you're calling games. Dude, you're blowing up. Man, 230 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Yeah, twenty seventeen. Graduate from Seton Hall twenty seventeen. 231 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: So you know how you need certain things to maybe 232 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: break your way. Well, I was a junior and Seaton 233 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: Hall wins the Big East Tournament for the first time 234 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety three, and all of a sudden, traffic 235 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: and Isaiah Whitehead led them to that over Villanova. Villanova 236 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: goes on to win the national championship three weeks later. 237 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm on the floor with Jay Right and Rolling mass 238 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: Amino talking with Villanova at the Big East Network. So 239 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: things have to Sometimes the bounce of a ball affects 240 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: you as a student too, or as a young professional, 241 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: are you getting noticed? And man, it's it's been really 242 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: cool to be able to cultivate those relationships and be 243 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: able to grow. And I think, I think the biggest 244 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: thing I try to tell myself now is I'm sure. 245 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: I'm sure you can understand this. It's like, whether your 246 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: success comes five years from now or to day, you've 247 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: got to have a realization of where you are on 248 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: the journey because if you if you think a little 249 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: like if you always are saying what's next, what's next, 250 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: what's next, and fail to appreciate the moment, you'll get lost. 251 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: A great point. That's that's great. So twenty seventeen, dude, 252 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: that is insane. Um, did you notice when you came 253 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: out like that college basketball was starting to I don't 254 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: want to say backslide because I'm a huge college hoops fan, 255 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: but interest was I don't know, kind of waning. Obviously 256 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: it's And listen, I can't talk to you about nineties 257 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: college hoops because you were barely born. But the sport 258 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: isn't as popular as it once was, a lot of 259 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: factors go into that. But is there a reason you 260 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: picked college basketball oversay the pros? Yeah, great question. I 261 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: think that, and I've said this to people, and I'm 262 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: really I'm glad that you asked that, because it's been 263 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: where I've developed a nice niche. But it's not my 264 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: endgame like I would like to cover other pro sports 265 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: down the road. It's just where my journey's taken me 266 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: thus far, and I've been able to just grow the following, 267 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: grow the following. So for me going to Seaton Hall, 268 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: they don't have football, and there's not a lot of football. 269 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of great football in the Northeast corridor. 270 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: We know that. So it was college hoops. And I 271 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: actually think Jason that by the sports sort of downsliding, 272 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, sort of going in the wrong direction a 273 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: little bit, it led to less and less outlets covering 274 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: it on a daily basis, whereas I'm producing content and 275 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: there still is the hardcore guy. There's still that hardcore 276 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: fan who loves their fix. They just they love hoops 277 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: at any level. So I have found that, I don't 278 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: want to say by being a big fish in a 279 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: smaller pond, but that's kind of the analogy I would 280 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: give you, is by sort of being in this pond 281 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: of people who's always, always covering it as opposed to 282 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: maybe being an NFL guy or a college football guy 283 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: or a say baseball guy, where let's be honest, how 284 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: many people are you going to go to to talk 285 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: to talk about those things that have been in the 286 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: industry for thirty forty years. Yeah, I've been able to 287 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: sort of capitalize in an area that we know is 288 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: going to own a month on the calendar, if not 289 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: two months, and we know that when a big story 290 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: is breaking that maybe people will be inclined to talk 291 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: to me. And because there's not as many people to 292 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: talk to to the game with. So that's kind of 293 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: how it's worked for me. It's not my end game, 294 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: although I love it. You know, I haven't given much 295 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: thought to like, hey, how do I break into this sport? 296 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: I think the only way you break in is if 297 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: you've got relationships with people that then eventually say, hey, 298 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: why don't we give you a shot and try this something, 299 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: to try something different. So I think for me, that's 300 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of my mentality totally. I mean, that's just smart. 301 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: That's you know, I did the same thing with you, 302 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: except my niche for sorry, the big lead was media. 303 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: So doing a lot of media coverage on the website. 304 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: And then once I had kind of I don't want 305 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: to say own that space or taken over as like 306 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: the number one guy, I was like, Okay, I think 307 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: I've hit my ceiling. Where do I go next? And 308 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: I had the base of like, I like all sports, 309 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: I can talk all sports. Why don't I try that? 310 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: And so I just did that. Now there's a lot 311 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: of voices in that. But at the same time I 312 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: was able to crack in at FS one so that 313 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: we're kind of colleagues. Although have you been on the 314 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: lot at all? Or no, I've been on a lot. 315 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: So here's a good industry story. So I did intern 316 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: for Fox after my junior year of college. Okay, and 317 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: summer of twenty sixteen, I lived in a hostel just 318 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: to make ends meet, because you know, you got to 319 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: find a way, find a place to live and uh, 320 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: and I love everything about Fox Sports. They typically brought 321 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: in locals for their internships over the summer. Is not that, 322 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: so hey, I got to find find a place to live. 323 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: So I show up to this hostel on one side 324 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: is my bunk. On the other side as a bunk 325 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: with a sixty year old man from Africa named George 326 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 1: what wriped out? Where was this in La? This was 327 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: in I mean near downtown owntown Yeah yeah, yeah. So 328 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: so you know, he's trying to make a better living 329 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: for himself because he had never come to America and 330 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: he's got you know, I'm listening to his story, amazing story. 331 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm on this path where, yeah, I'm trying to just 332 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: brack into making a living of some sort. Yeah yeah. 333 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: And we're two very different points of our lives. We 334 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: haven't stayed in touch, but I think about that story 335 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: all the time because it's it's what I share with people. 336 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: Be willing to get uncomfortable or be willing to live 337 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: in a hostel for summer, you know, like I'm sure 338 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: that there's kids my age would be like, you lived 339 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: in a hostel? What were you doing? Yeah? But just 340 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: figure it out, figure out a way to make it work, 341 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: is my point. And so for me, I was on 342 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: the Fox slot all that summer. I actually was on 343 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: the lot the first weekend of the tournament in our 344 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: digital space over at Avenue of the Stars. Oh yeah, yeah, 345 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: with that with that group doing some content and doing 346 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: some videos. But I gotta get on the lot with you, 347 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: So hopefully in due time we'll spend some time together. 348 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: Um definitely, and and it helps we can obviously get 349 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: to the tournament now and uh Connecticut being the overwhelming favorite. 350 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: They are from the Big East, so that's a huge 351 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: edge for you at a time when you know you 352 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: can lose. Jay Wright obviously that was that was That 353 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: was kind of a tough loss for Villanova. UM and 354 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: the Big East has kind of struggled a bit. It's 355 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: not quite what it once was. A Big ten has 356 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: kind of passed it definitely, and uh SEC was strong 357 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: this year, but just as things need to break, Connecticut 358 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: um who I gotta be honest, when I saw him 359 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: in the Big East tournament, I was like, these guys, 360 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: I like them, but I don't love them. I mean, 361 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: they couldn't guard Colick. They always lose close games, although 362 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: they usually blow people out. I mean, I gotta be honest, 363 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Yukon is here. Before the tournament, did 364 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: you do any brackets and did you think, oh, yeah, 365 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: I got Connecticut going to the final Yeah, I didn't 366 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: think so. I didn't think that they would be a 367 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: final four team because I didn't really trust them A 368 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: ton of late game situations, but they haven't had any 369 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: in this tournament. They'd They've won their four games by 370 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: a combined ninety points. It's utter dominance by this Connecticut team, Jason. 371 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: They've outscored their competition in the second half one hundred 372 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: and seventy four to one oh seven. Wow. I mean 373 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: they're plus sixty seven in the second half of these games. 374 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: So for me, I always thought that they had enough 375 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: talent in depth. Point guard play has been up and 376 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: down for them, but they figured something out with Andre Jackson. 377 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: Andre Jackson Junior, six foot seven, He's totaled seventeen assists 378 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: in his last two games asanogo's averaging twenty and ten 379 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: in this tournament. And the fact is, Jason, you gotta 380 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: have an NBA draft pick in all likelihood like you got. 381 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: You gotta have someone that could that could be a pro, 382 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: and Jordan Hawkins has been that for them. I mean 383 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: he's playing, He's going to be an NBA draft pick. 384 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna hear his name called somewhere in the first round. 385 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: He's played great. You know, He's totaled sixty nine points 386 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: over four nca tournament games. He scored forty four points 387 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: over the last two games. So they've gotten great production 388 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: from the inside and the outside and their defense. When 389 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: what you're saying about Yukon when they lost six of 390 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: eight in January, guess what happened. They weren't defending their 391 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: defense was what early Dan Hurtley called it pathetic. But 392 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: they figured that out, and they figured out a way 393 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: to not play four on five offensively, but put Jackson 394 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: sort of the unique matchup. This guy you don't want 395 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: taking outside shots in a more advantageous position on the 396 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: floor to make an impact. Yeah, that's smart coaching by Hurley. 397 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: But the interesting part is I think I saw the 398 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: stats since February fifteenth or February first, Yukon was essentially 399 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: the number one statistical team in the country. Bart Torvik 400 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: had that, and it's like, well, well, the stats love them. 401 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: They haven't lost a game outside the Big East. I 402 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: saw their fourteen zero and one against the spread in 403 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: non Big East games, so like the league had solved them, 404 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: but other people that team struggle a lot. I'm just wondering, 405 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: do you think there's any chance they get upset by Miami. 406 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: I do think that there's always a chance, and the 407 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: nature of this tournament lends itself to the crazy happening. 408 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: I have a hard time believe in Connecticut's losing. But 409 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: but Gonzaga after drew Timmy and Julian Strather not enough, 410 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: not enough, Arkansas perimeter shooting not good, not good. Miami 411 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: has both those things. How many teams can say this? 412 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: Over the last three games, they have had a player 413 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: score at least twenty six points. It's been three different players, 414 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: three different players, sometimes one or two guys. But to 415 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: have Nigel Pack and Isaiah Wong and Jordan Miller, that 416 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: trio has been dynamite. And on the interior, Northchat o'meir 417 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: has has really embraced what he does. I'm in the 418 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: front court on the glass for them. Here's the problem 419 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: with Miami. If Omir gets in any files trouble, they 420 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: don't have anything behind it. They need to play a 421 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: great game. And Yukon's got this two headed monster, Jason. 422 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: They go from Adama Sanogo to a seven foot two 423 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: tree and Donovan Klingon. Yeah, I think the analytics love Yukon, 424 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: you know why, Like they play a highly efficient style 425 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: and they have a wealth of options that other teams 426 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: just simply do not have. So do I see a 427 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: world where Miami could be Connecticut. Yes, if it's a 428 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: close game time, if it's a close game late, watch 429 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: out because Connecticut's guard play in the half court execution 430 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: you never know. And what I love about Miami they 431 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: can fight back from a deficit. We just saw them 432 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: do it against Texas on Sunday. To be thirteen down 433 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: with like ten minutes to go and come back from 434 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: that crazy. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 435 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 436 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search 437 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: FSR to listen live. I know you're a young guy, 438 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: but in your Final Four memories, can you ever recall 439 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: al a less appealing Final Four game than San Diego 440 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: State and Florida Atlantic. No, And that's yeah. I don't 441 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: want to be like I'm bashing the game, but just 442 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: on paper, like my interest level is not that high. 443 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: If something comes up, you know, somebody, we got to 444 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: go to dinner or something. I'm not gonna fight and 445 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: be like I I gotta watch the Final four, you know, 446 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: like it's San Diego State Florida Atlantic. I mean, that's 447 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: the reality I'm not blasting it like I will want 448 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: to watch game, but like the casual fan, even a 449 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: college basketball guy who bets in November December, like myself, 450 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I couldn't name a player on 451 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: Florida Atlantic before the tournament. Look, there's no question that 452 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: to the casual fan, the lack of BOZ is real real. 453 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: I will attempt to give people reasons look at this 454 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: matchup and say, Okay, maybe I'm interested. So number one, 455 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: Florida Atlantic is eleven and one in games decided by 456 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 1: five points or less this year. They have been insane 457 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: and closing these games out. If you take a look 458 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: at the spread, that would lend yourself to think, well, 459 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: maybe it's FEU's time now. San Diego State, on the 460 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: other hand, they've been a great game execution team and 461 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: have been relentless on the defensive end of the floor. 462 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: And I'm happy that San Diego States in this position. 463 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: I know that they don't draw the national bus. But Jason, 464 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: if we're going to talk about a program that over 465 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: the last six years is one hundred and seven and 466 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: twenty two, they put one hundred and twenty nine games, 467 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: they've won one hundred and seven of them not bad 468 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: at some point to validate your Mountain West or why 469 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: do I have to watch this league going forward? Or 470 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: why should I like, like, they're not going to win 471 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: the ratings game on Saturday, but next year if you 472 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: catch them late night on a channel FS one does 473 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: Mountain West games, you might be more inclined to just 474 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: notice them because you know that they could make a 475 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 1: deeper tournament run. So I do think like in the 476 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: tournament in the past, you've had upsets early and then 477 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: it lends itself to a second weekend that's not as 478 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: fun because you don't get strength against strength. What I 479 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: do appreciate about this tournament is that for once those 480 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: teams that maybe you said, well, are they that good? 481 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: Are we going to see a blowout? They actually won 482 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: yeah one, which opens the door to okay, this really 483 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: is madness, and the current climate lends itself to, hey, 484 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: I might as well pick the upset. So it's a 485 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 1: tough sell, there's no question about that. But I do 486 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: expect this. I think the Aztecs in Florida Atlantic are 487 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: going to go down to the wire. Yes, if I 488 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: were you Connor Miami, I'd be rooting for FAU because 489 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: San Diego State is never going to get blown out. 490 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: They fight you tooth and nail. They've been in. You 491 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: don't just beat the number one overall seed in Alabama 492 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: and not have the ability to win the national championship. 493 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: I think that's the what if San Diego State won 494 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: the national title? What if f that you somehow won it? 495 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: It would be a landscape changing moment for college too well, 496 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: or is it just a blip and an outlier? I 497 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: will agree that, you know, San Diego State does play 498 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: seemingly everybody close. They got a bunch of old guys 499 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: on their team, which is an other thing we can 500 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: get to in a minute. But I do want to 501 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: ask about FAU so coming into the tournament, they had 502 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at their Ken Pom, I believe zero 503 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: wins over teams in the field, zero games against teams 504 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: in the field. Like that's just tough for me to grasp, Like, man, 505 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: they've hey, I know they want third with thirty what 506 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: are they had thirty five wins, thirty four wins, whatever 507 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: it is before the tournament. They did not beat anyone 508 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: or even face anyone who made the tournament crazy. I 509 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: mean that that's that's in found Uab was Uab was good. 510 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: They got the little guy Jelly Walker. Yeah, but you 511 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: would think you would think they played somebody. It looks 512 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: like they played Florida early in the season, which was 513 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: a fringe team. They got smoked by Mississippi. But that's 514 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: early early November games anyways. Um, you had made the 515 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: good point um about you know, the older teams doing well. 516 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: I saw the when it comes to experience, you know, 517 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: that has seemed to matter a lot in this tournament. 518 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, is that the kind of thing that's 519 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: gonna last for a while given this COVID an extra year, 520 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: or is the NCAA gonna end up pay saying, hey, 521 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: everybody who had gone to college when the COVID thing happened, 522 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna stop that here in the next I don't know, 523 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: two years. Well, it's gonna stop the COVID. The COVID 524 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: year concept is going to stop in another two years 525 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, that's that's definitely, that's gonna cycle its 526 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: way out of the sport. You're not gonna have like 527 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: this fifth year that's automatic. You're gonna that's gonna go 528 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: away because that that kicked in for anybody that was 529 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: says didn't get to play a postseason in twenty twenty 530 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: and then for anybody freshman in beyond twenty twenty twenty one. 531 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: So your last class that that would affect is the 532 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four class. What if you read shirted that 533 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: year in that case twenty five Okay, you're not going 534 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: to see this going on the five six years, okay, 535 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: So there might be a window here where the move 536 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: going forward when you're filling out brackets and you're betting, 537 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: is to keep an on the teams with the experience, 538 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: because that will matter more when you've got twenty three. 539 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I just saw a quitterly from Alabama sounds 540 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: like he's considering returning, and I believe he's already twenty 541 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: three years old, so you would be like twenty four 542 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: next year something insane like that, Like he's got an 543 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: extra year, And you'll start looking around and you're like, well, 544 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: what's the upside of leaving college? If you're twenty three, 545 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: you've probably finished most of your classes, you're just playing basketball, 546 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: and I don't know what else they'd be working. Well, 547 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: you can't really work if you're playing hoops. But it 548 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: seems like that's what's going to be the trend here 549 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: the next couple of years. Well, there's two sides of it. 550 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: Number One, it's going to be the trend. It already 551 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: has been the trend because of the extra COVID year. 552 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: But let's throw that out for a moment and consider this. 553 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: Now we're in the era and there's players today. We 554 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: had it a couple of them, a couple of mid 555 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: major guys that said, you know what, I'm never gonna 556 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: be a great pro. But oh oh, local car dealership 557 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: is paying me one hundred K. And I can go 558 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: to college. Oh and I can go get my masters. 559 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: Oh and I can go play for a tournament team potentially. 560 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: Oh and the girlfriend that's a junior, I can I 561 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: can keep her two, keep her happy. It's all real. 562 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: These kids are then staying around because they can benefit 563 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: more off of the extra year in college. Just live 564 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: in that college life that we all wanted to live forever. 565 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: They can benefit off that financially more than they ever will. 566 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: If they go play in Europe for a year. And 567 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: not only that, they could they could be on your 568 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: main broadcast networks. You could still play big time games. 569 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: If you make the tournament, your your name and your 570 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: school is plastered everywhere. Yeah, NIL is affecting the sport. 571 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's no coincidence that Miami is sitting here 572 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: the eight months after John Ruiz makes headlines by giving 573 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: Nigel Pack eight hundred thousand dollars. That's all real. It's 574 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: gonna the money is going to continue to impact things. 575 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: And the thing is, Jason, is that the money can 576 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: come from different sources. It can impact different schools in 577 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: different ways. So that the mid major school that you think, well, 578 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: where's their money coming from, some of these schools have 579 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: people that are just they've always had it in their pockets. 580 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: They just haven't been able to give it to the 581 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: degree they can give it now with NIL, it's a 582 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: free zone. It's a free zone. I'll tell you this much. 583 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: FAU is going to be the biggest test of the 584 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: transfer portal. And I l Era because they only have 585 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: one kid that's eligibility is up. Everybody else is able 586 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: to come back. Everybody else is able to come back. 587 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: But will they come back to Florida Atlantic or are 588 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: they going to go make do in the SEC or 589 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: the a SEC. Huh? What do you hear? What's a 590 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: buzz so far? I would assume Davis is the hot commodity. 591 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: HAC John L. Davis is a hot commodity. Elijah Martin's 592 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: a hot commodity. Dusty May said it last week. He said, look, 593 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: my guys are getting recruited now, taking phone calls now, 594 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: so you know what, it's real. It's not gonna change. 595 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: I think you'll see some kids stay because they get 596 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: a nice deal and they like it there. And but honestly, 597 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: you're this is an arms race. This is this is 598 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: how it's gonna be. But I wouldn't trade it. I 599 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: think that the portal, the ability to accelerate experience with 600 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: the portal because now previously a sophomore junior transfers, we 601 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: don't hear about him for two years. Now it's an 602 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: open market. Yeah, you can go and totally change your 603 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: career and totally change a program in eight months. Now. 604 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: On Miami, they're interesting. You have a lot of veteran 605 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: teams around the country. Miami's the kid Wong. I think 606 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: he was an acc player of the years of junior pack, 607 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: the guy who got eight hundred k to transferred from 608 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Kansas State to Miami. He's only a sophomore. Omere looks 609 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: like it's a sophomore. This just kind of the young team. 610 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: Where are you on Miami? Like we know lareneg is 611 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: a great coach, but is this the kind of thing 612 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: where they could build on this or do you expect 613 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: these guys to maybe level up from eight hundred thousand 614 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: to one point five that at I don't Indiana, I'm 615 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: just Dawson out of school. Or do I think they 616 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: would consider going overseas? No? I think that this is 617 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: in position to keep on saying them level time because 618 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: I think if it wasn't Jim Larenega would announce his 619 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: retirement after this year. But he knows. Here's the thing. 620 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: The U is perfect for n I l yea perfect. 621 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: There's no better school. I mean, Miami's been doing nil 622 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: for decades. Yeah, you gotta wonder why why isn't Florida 623 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: State in the mix the way they are the way 624 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: Miami's popping question? You know, I mean if Florida State's 625 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: been on a struggle bus in college football for a minute? Um, 626 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens with Lebron's son. There's 627 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: a lot of speculation he may go USC. But like USC, 628 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: you would think, not to say get political, but the 629 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: coastal elites would have something of an edge. And here 630 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: we are with two teams from Florida in the final four. 631 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's like, Wow, you're gonna pay 632 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: me money to live near the beach, go to school 633 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: and play basketball. Why on earth am I going to 634 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: West Virginia or you know, West Lafayette, Indiana. I just right, 635 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: it sounds like you're a fan of the nil right, Oh, absolutely, yeah. 636 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: I think if a kid can benefit off their brand, 637 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: they should. And here's the thing. Everybody thought Miami would 638 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: be the anti. They thought they thought Miami would go 639 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 1: down the drain. You know, they really did. They thought 640 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: Miami would end up being hurt because over the off season, 641 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 1: Pack takes his eight hundred k deal. It gets out there, 642 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: Isaiah Wan gets ticked off. Yeah, I need more money. 643 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: I need more money. Well guess what. They made him happy. 644 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: And when I talked with north chet Omere earlier this week, 645 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: I said, how does this impact you guys? He goes, Honestly, 646 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: we talk about it when we're not playing. He goes, 647 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: It's all part of everybody's equation. But he goes with 648 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: how transparent it is. It's kind of like, you know 649 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: what nil is, what it is around here, like they 650 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: have allowed it to sort of it, They've allowed to exist. 651 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: They don't back away from it, they don't shy away 652 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: from it. And Lara Naga deserves a lot of credit 653 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: because how many guys at his age at seventy three 654 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: would get tired of this or say I'm retiring. He's 655 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: kind of he's kind of like, you know what, I'm 656 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: gonna just do me. I'll coach my team. I'll kind 657 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: of have this NBA personality as the coach. He's not something. 658 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: If you look at Lara and AGAs right now on 659 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: the sidelines, he's not screaming at the top of his lungs. Now, 660 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: that's his kids playing. That's what today's kid want, that's 661 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: what they don't. Yeah. So I just looked at Pack 662 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: on Rivals. Okay, this is wild. So he was a 663 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: class of twenty twenty when he went to Kansas State. 664 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: He was like the Arrivals had him one hundred and 665 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: twenty eight in the country, twenty ninth at point guard. 666 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: These are his offers. So Pack twenty twenty. Coming out 667 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: of high school, he had an offer from Case State, 668 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: which he took Ball State, Belmont Bradley Butler, I Upui, 669 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: Indiana State, Loyola, Miami of Ohio. So he had those 670 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: offers and now he's making eight hundred thousand dollars from 671 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: like basically a bunch of mid majors to eight hundred 672 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in the final four. And if you don't 673 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: like nil, I don't think anybody doesn't. But like that 674 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: right there, that's America, is it not? It is America? 675 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: And it also is showing that there's a lot more 676 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: good players. Yeah, you know, like we might not have 677 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: other worldly We don't get Zion Williamson walking in every year. 678 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get that. And even this year, let's 679 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: be honest, this draft class at the college level not great, 680 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: really not. But what I will say is the college 681 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: game is what it is right now where or an 682 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: FDU can pull it off over Purdue because if a 683 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: team's got some scrappy guards who are capable of knocking 684 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: down shots, the game has become so much more offensively friendly. 685 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: That's a trickle down effect. You know, the evolution of 686 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: the three point shot at the NBA level. It's trickled 687 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: into the college game. Now the shooting percentages aren't nearly 688 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: as good, but stylistically it's changed the way that these 689 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: teams play. And so that's what we're watching here, So 690 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: that a Nigel Pack can go from totally off the 691 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: map to somebody that gets on the radar because hey, 692 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: he's still he's a good player. Wasn't recruited by the 693 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: blue blood. But a good player can become a great 694 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: player theoretically if they stay the course and do what 695 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: they're supposed to do. Now you're adding some cash. Now 696 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: you're add in cash, you might never be a great 697 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: NBA player. I think what has to happen is and 698 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: there's a shift right now. These kids are realizing that 699 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: the NBA's for a very very very very small percentage 700 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: of total college players. But you know what NIL can 701 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: be for a very very large yes of college players. 702 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: That's a great point. Take the money. Yeah, we can 703 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: wrap up with this, are you. I saw the Zach 704 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: Edie stuff where people, uh not people, it's some hot 705 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: take artist clown. It was saying, my people are saying 706 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: Zach Edie's transferring. Zack Edie was like, my people are saying, 707 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: that's not whatever it was. He's not going anywhere. Give me, 708 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: give me a couple of interesting nuggets you've heard about 709 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: potential transfers um heading into this offseason. I mean, we 710 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: all know Marquette's going to be up there next year. Um, 711 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: if they return everybody. Perduce should be up there if 712 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: they return everybody, and then you got like the best 713 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: recruiting classes. But any other interesting stuff you've heard in 714 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: the Elite eight corridors or at the Final four yet. 715 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: So I'll have this for Fox sports dot Com early 716 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: next week. But it's gonna take a lot for me 717 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: to not put Duke at number one in America. Hmmm. 718 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: II ress Proctor is coming back? Did you watch him 719 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: doctor in the tournament? He was out, He was outstanding, 720 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: And I really Jason, I like John Shire's overall demeanor. 721 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: I like the way his team was playing down the stretch. 722 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: They had a bad day, They had a bad they 723 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: picked a bad day. Is Roach coming back? What's that? 724 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: Is Roach coming back? We'll see, We'll see in terms 725 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,959 Speaker 1: of transfer nuggets and news and rumors. So I think 726 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: he'll stay at Michigan, But I know for a fact 727 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: hunter Dickinson is entertaining the idea of potential to moving 728 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: somewhere else. No, Now, I had a podcast with him, right, 729 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: I did one episode with him. Yes, yeah, he does 730 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: have a pod. Interesting a seven footer yep. Looks like 731 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: he's probably got two years of eligibility left. And I 732 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: still think he comes back, but I've heard it in circles. 733 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: The other name to watch is Justin Moore of Villanova. 734 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: There's some possibility, there's some rumblings that he could transfer. 735 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: He's from the DMV area, so maybe we see him 736 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: transfer to one of those schools, Georgetown. What about Dickenson? 737 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: He looks like he's from Alexander, Virginia. Could he pop 738 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: at Georgetown? I grew up in the DC area. So 739 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: are you seeing? Are you seeing where I'm going a 740 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: little bit? Now you're connecting the dots. Now, remember there's 741 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: just you know, Georgetown with Ed Cooley. Huge move, and 742 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: then look out for Maryland, Like Kevin Millard has done 743 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: a nice job here. Quickly they want a tournament game 744 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: this past year and you know, like he got the 745 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: program back in the right state of They pulled off 746 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: an upsete went over Purdue telling him both Georgetown and 747 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: Maryland where they are right now, we will be talking 748 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: about them differently here as time goes on. Dickenson's the 749 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 1: DeMatha kid. Wow, I did not know that. Okay, that's yeah. 750 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh look at that dropping some nuggets. Love it all right? Man? Hey, um, 751 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: you're you're blowing up. I love the stuff you've done lately. 752 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: Obviously a partner with Fox and FS one. Man, what's 753 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: the next step for you? What do you expect? What 754 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: are you gonna do next? Do you get You're gonna 755 00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: get your own TV show? Podcast? What do you got? Look? 756 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: I think I like that pause? Yeah, right, exactly. You 757 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: you always you get ask and you're like, where am 758 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: I going to be in five hours? No? You know, 759 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: I think for me, it's just I'm really blossed to 760 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: work for the bosses at FS one doing games and 761 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: I do some games for CBS Sports Network, you know, 762 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: I think. I think hopefully as time goes on, if 763 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: if our bosses h at Fox continue to enjoy what 764 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing, I'd love to get into the college football 765 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: space a little bit and continue to grow. But however 766 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: that might be, I just I'm I would love to 767 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 1: have you knowing now what I've grown from a college 768 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: basketball perspective. I'd love to have a basketball show down 769 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: the road. What that looks like, we'll see, yeah, but 770 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, my dream is to host selection Sunday one day. 771 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: That's my dream. Oh wow, right, Double Idol. I love him. 772 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: I think he's great at his job. So we'll see 773 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: one day, one step at a time. You're a Jersey 774 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: guy like my wife, so I know Jersey people are 775 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: pretty good people. Because congrats on your success, John, thanks 776 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 1: for taking the time. Buddy Jason, thank you.